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Speaker 2: What's up?

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Speaker 1: Guys, Welcome into a brand new episode of Chargers Weekly,

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Speaker 1: a mini camp edition as always, joined by Matt Muney

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Speaker 1: Smith and you know, Muddy.

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Speaker 2: I was there on Monday for media day. In one

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Speaker 2: of the things that.

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Speaker 1: Struck me last year we had all these new faces

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Speaker 1: and this year a few new faces, right. You see

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Speaker 1: Diane Henley and Quintin Johnson and Eric Kendricks running around there.

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Speaker 1: But the theme I felt like was just continuity doing

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Speaker 1: this thing again with the same group of guys. It

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Speaker 1: was fun to see everybody in the same place for

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Speaker 1: the first time since really Jacksonville. When you talk about

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Speaker 1: OTAs and seeing Austin Eckler there.

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Speaker 2: It was a good week, good week of work.

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Speaker 3: For the Chargers certainly. You know, you mentioned the faces

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Speaker 3: and who was there and who wasn't, And I think

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Speaker 3: that's one of the great things about this Chargers team

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Speaker 3: going into Deceased and now look, and I know we're

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Speaker 3: going to get into a lot of the questions that

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Speaker 3: we're thrown at justin Herbert, but you know, considering last

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Speaker 3: year we were having this conversation about Derwin James knowing

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Speaker 3: that he was going to want to be the highest

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Speaker 3: paid safety in the league, and how long would that

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Speaker 3: take and what would those negotiations look like, because it's

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Speaker 3: never easy when you're talking about that much money and

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Speaker 3: setting you know, a new number for the entire league,

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Speaker 3: not just for the individual player. So it's nice to

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Speaker 3: see this year sort of media day OTAs now mini

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Speaker 3: camp zero issues and they were able. And it's a

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Speaker 3: tip of the cap to Tom and Ed and Jojo

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Speaker 3: and John Spanous and all of them for figuring out

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Speaker 3: the Austin Eckler thing sooner than later. And also to

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Speaker 3: Austin and I know we're going to get into that

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Speaker 3: as well, because he had a chance to speak with

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Speaker 3: the media, but to both sides. To get a team

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Speaker 3: that a lot of people think has a roster on

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Speaker 3: paper that should and very well could contend for a

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Speaker 3: Super Bowl championship this year, you want to try to

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Speaker 3: minimize any of those obstacles, the off the field obstacles

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Speaker 3: that you can and so far and at this particular point,

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Speaker 3: through taz a mini camp, it looks like the Charge

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Speaker 3: has done a great job of that.

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Speaker 1: And it takes two It takes professionals on both sides.

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Speaker 1: I remember when when Darwin was holding in last year,

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Speaker 1: he was still on the field, he was still coaching

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Speaker 1: them up, and he was handling himself like a pro.

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Speaker 1: Justin said all the right things about getting this contract

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Speaker 1: and what it means for just getting this team ready

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Speaker 1: in a new offense.

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Speaker 2: And Austin.

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Speaker 1: I saw Austin and he said he's been listening to

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Speaker 1: our pod and he said he's in probably the best

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Speaker 1: shape of his career and it was good to see him.

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Speaker 1: And he's handled this thing like a pro too. Listen,

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Speaker 1: if you think you're worth more, and you've shown it

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Speaker 1: and you've put it on tape, then you should have

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Speaker 1: the opportunity to look and see what else is out there.

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Speaker 1: The Chargers let him do it, and then the Chargers

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Speaker 1: gave him some incentives that I think is a nice

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Speaker 1: kind of common ground here as we go into twenty

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Speaker 1: he obviously say to the media too. It's like Austin

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Speaker 3: We say it all the time and we love Austin.

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Speaker 3: He's and I think, no matter what you do, whatever

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Speaker 3: your role is in the organization, you're not going to

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Speaker 3: hear a bad thing about him. If you're a coach,

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Speaker 3: OTAs or mini camp. If you're the front office, you

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Speaker 3: always that second, third effort. Like just he very well

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Speaker 3: he's in that conversation just across the board. So to

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Speaker 3: talking about putting two three hundred million bucks out there

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Speaker 3: every year in player salaries. But for you know, for

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Speaker 3: Austin did a great job of pointing that out. He's

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Speaker 3: that are just listening to the pod now, his point was,

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Speaker 3: went on to point out that's my situation. He said,

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Speaker 3: we got to figure something out with this other situation,

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Speaker 3: and that is that you've got guys that onto their

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Speaker 3: right now as they're trying to figure out a way this.

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Speaker 3: We get it. These are the rules, you know, by

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Speaker 3: which the NFLPA agreed to in the last collective bargaining agreement.

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Speaker 3: They're the rules that you have to follow. But I

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Speaker 3: also do think there's market inefficiencies that need to be addressed.

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Speaker 3: And if you know, across the board, the teams are

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Speaker 3: maybe they got to figure something out. Maybe there's an

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Speaker 3: it sounds like, that's what Austin didn't want to get

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Speaker 3: I don't mean to go on this huge ran straight

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Speaker 3: out the gate here, Chris, but like the whole idea

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Speaker 3: At the same time, it's asinine. There's part of it

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Speaker 3: that just really doesn't make any sense. You know, you

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Speaker 3: Austin Eckler does. Austin's an outlier. He's yes, he was undrafted,

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Speaker 3: and he's making a relative bargain for what he provides

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Speaker 3: at six and a half million bucks a year, you know,

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Speaker 3: eighteen touchdowns and sixteen hundred yards. But he's an outlier,

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Speaker 3: you know, so like to say that that's the approach

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Speaker 3: I love that the Atlanta Falcons invested in him. We

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Speaker 3: they're pushing the ball down the field more and what

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Speaker 3: brilliant coaching by John Gruden this year. Now it's Josh

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Speaker 3: Jacobs's Josh Jacobs. It's running the hell out of the

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Speaker 3: ball that sets all that up. So just the narrative

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Speaker 1: Muddy I would argue outside the first and second round, like,

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Speaker 1: his career. Excuse me finding guys late that were like

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Speaker 1: to undrafted guys. But you know, NFL teams can get

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Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley is the biggest example. He was the heart

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Speaker 1: Brian Dables a really good coach, but they don't get

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Speaker 1: to the playoffs without Saquon Barkley. They used to.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's like, look at this, Chris, I'm just

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Speaker 3: I pulled it up right. So here's your rushing stats

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Speaker 3: from last year, right. Josh Jacobs led the league. Everybody

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Speaker 3: Second Henry. Third, Nick, you know, so Derrick Henry makes

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Speaker 3: the long term extension. He's on a franchise. Tag Miles Sanders,

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Speaker 3: after that Dalvin Cook six, Justin Fields, which is the

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Speaker 3: he is going to have a monster year. And ten

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Speaker 3: top ten. You know that's like that, Derrick Henry fighting

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Speaker 3: Saquon Barkley, Philadelphia is in the Super Bowl. Miles Sanders

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Speaker 1: Fans will look at last year and almost forget what

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Speaker 3: just something that needs to be sorted out. And I

430
00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:17,399
Speaker 3: think that's if they can. Man, they got look that

431
00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:20,400
Speaker 3: is that is a serious weapon that they've got on defense.

432
00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,119
Speaker 3: If they can figure that thing out. Just kind of

433
00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:27,320
Speaker 3: think about, you know, think about the Chiefs linebackers, you know,

434
00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:29,600
Speaker 3: and what Bolton and what Gay and what those guys

435
00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,000
Speaker 3: are able to do. I mean, Bolton is a nightmare

436
00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,840
Speaker 3: whenever the Chargers play him, you know, and it's a

437
00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:40,280
Speaker 3: very he's he's he's again fast, he's athletic, but he's

438
00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:42,359
Speaker 3: big enough where he makes an impact you know, when

439
00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:44,960
Speaker 3: he's when he's knocking you off your your feet. So

440
00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,800
Speaker 3: that's sort of we know what kind of impact that

441
00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:51,560
Speaker 3: that position can make. And so I think if you're

442
00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:55,240
Speaker 3: able to figure that out, you know, that's that's it.

443
00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,800
Speaker 3: That's a huge like you you know, the way you

444
00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,600
Speaker 3: described it, Chris, it's almost like a new and it's

445
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:02,800
Speaker 3: almost like a new signing to have j. C. Jackson

446
00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,920
Speaker 3: out there this year, if somehow he can get back

447
00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:07,600
Speaker 3: to what he was in New England, because we did

448
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:09,960
Speaker 3: not see that at all last year. We saw maybe

449
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,000
Speaker 3: a couple flashes before he got hurt, but barely any

450
00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:16,320
Speaker 3: of it. So I'm not saying that Kenneth Murray hasn't

451
00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,480
Speaker 3: added anything to the team in that the previous three years.

452
00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,320
Speaker 3: He absolutely has. But I'm saying when you trade a

453
00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:23,520
Speaker 3: third round pick and your second round pick to jump

454
00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,160
Speaker 3: up into the first round to take this guy, you're

455
00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:30,719
Speaker 3: expecting him to be an impact player. And that's perhaps

456
00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,440
Speaker 3: something that they're going to try to get to work

457
00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,879
Speaker 3: this year with and for Kenneth, it's the best thing

458
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,080
Speaker 3: that could happen, you know, to have your fifty year

459
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,679
Speaker 3: option decline and you turn in a monster year and

460
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,880
Speaker 3: now all of a sudden you're an unrestricted free agent. Congratulations,

461
00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,520
Speaker 3: I mean jackpot here at So it's not like he

462
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:49,359
Speaker 3: ain't going to be working for it, you know. Is

463
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:53,080
Speaker 3: his professional life is on the line because of that

464
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:57,120
Speaker 3: decline of the fifty year option. So I'm certainly yes,

465
00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:01,760
Speaker 3: I'm very hopeful. I'm excited about perhaps a different voice

466
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,680
Speaker 3: along with the coaches to be with Kenneth to see

467
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,680
Speaker 3: if we can somehow unlock what we all think is

468
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:09,560
Speaker 3: the potential of what he can become.

469
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, you almost do the player of favor if they

470
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,200
Speaker 1: if they ball out, if you decline that fifth year option,

471
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 1: because then you hit free hc early and you're cashing

472
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 1: out a couple more defensive things. Before we flipped to

473
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 1: the offense money and J. T. Woods is a guy

474
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,479
Speaker 1: that we talked about a lot. We heard Derwin kind

475
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,879
Speaker 1: of reinforce it. We heard coach Staley really echo what

476
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,200
Speaker 1: Durwin said a couple of weeks ago at the Golf

477
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,119
Speaker 1: Tournament about just this is a big, big year for

478
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:37,920
Speaker 1: JC or JT.

479
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:39,680
Speaker 2: There's a lot of.

480
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,919
Speaker 1: J C, j T, j T Woods, big year for

481
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,480
Speaker 1: JT in terms of getting his body right, being more

482
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:50,119
Speaker 1: physical and getting more comfortable in the defense. And again

483
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:55,240
Speaker 1: Derwin spoke and spoke glowingly about Alohi Gilman say, hey,

484
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 1: I'm the leader of the team. But yeah, although he

485
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,600
Speaker 1: is a connector, he brings these guys together, and I

486
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,880
Speaker 1: think it's gonna take a lot, a lot to get

487
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:05,879
Speaker 1: a Lilie Gilman.

488
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 2: Out of the story lineup money.

489
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 3: Now that you put it perfectly, Chris, that's your That

490
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 3: was so apparent to me from Derwin's answers on those

491
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:19,359
Speaker 3: two topics. It was you know you all and and

492
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:23,439
Speaker 3: this is not this is not limited to to the NFL,

493
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 3: to football, this is every sport. Draft status means something,

494
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,399
Speaker 3: and people get enamored with where you were drafted and

495
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,440
Speaker 3: what they believe you can be, even if you've already

496
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,159
Speaker 3: proven that you're not that person. And that's there's a

497
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 3: flip side of that too. Right. So JT led the

498
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,680
Speaker 3: n cuale A and interceptions. JT was a third round

499
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:48,240
Speaker 3: pick and a Looie Gilman was. I don't know was

500
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,199
Speaker 3: he a fifth. I think he was a fifth if

501
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 3: I remember right.

502
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 1: I think maybe a sixth.

503
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 3: Might have been a sixth So you're talking about someone

504
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 3: that was expected to, you know, to be a special

505
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 3: teams contributor and provide depth.

506
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 1: J T.

507
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 3: Woods was drafted to be your starting free safety. So

508
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 3: when you have that sort of thing, there's these expectations of, well,

509
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,119
Speaker 3: when's JT gonna get out there? When's why is he

510
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 3: not getting these reps? You know how big it would

511
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 3: be to have and you overlook the sixth round pick

512
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,120
Speaker 3: that has the job, and he's been doing a heck

513
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 3: of a job at it. He's you know, he's he

514
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 3: doesn't have the profile, he doesn't have the college resume

515
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 3: that j T. Woods had, but he's the better player

516
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 3: right now and it's not close. That's what Duran was

517
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,679
Speaker 3: was sort of getting that, and it goes back to

518
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 3: what we just talked about why the players respect him

519
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,479
Speaker 3: so much because he answered the question and he answered

520
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:42,959
Speaker 3: it honestly and politely, and he cushioned a little bit

521
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 3: of the negatives. He's like, look, he's got a long

522
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 3: way to go still. This is a young player that's

523
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 3: still learning, that's still trying to figure it out, and

524
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 3: we're looking forward to him taking those next steps. And

525
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 3: then he would double back and say, but my guy,

526
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 3: I'll always out there and I know he's going to

527
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 3: be exactly where he needs to be on every play.

528
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 3: And I love having him out there. And that's that's

529
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:06,640
Speaker 3: what goes a long way, is not just saying yeah,

530
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 3: you know next. It was a rookie year for JT.

531
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:10,719
Speaker 3: It was a rough go. We expect him to take

532
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 3: a step this year. We're looking forward. You know, it's like,

533
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 3: we're good. I got a Lowi Gilman back there. We're good. Yeah,

534
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 3: it is important for JT to get better and for

535
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:20,400
Speaker 3: him to get out there and for him to take

536
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:24,199
Speaker 3: that next step in his career. But I'm confident in

537
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 3: a Lowie Gilman being the other safety on this team

538
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 3: when I'm out there.

539
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 2: I love Alohi.

540
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:31,640
Speaker 1: I love the way he plays, I love his demeanor,

541
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,639
Speaker 1: and I know that the team, yeah, loves having him

542
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 1: out there.

543
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 2: Six round pick one to eighty six overall money.

544
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 3: So there you go.

545
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:40,439
Speaker 2: Talk about a success story.

546
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 1: And he was drafted by I want to say that

547
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:47,680
Speaker 1: was the Anthony Lynn administration twenty twenty, right, So he

548
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 1: not only had to you know, grind in twenty twenty,

549
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 1: but also go through a new coaching staff, new defensive system,

550
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 1: prove himself and stick around, and he's certainly done that.

551
00:26:58,880 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 2: If we flip to offense.

552
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 1: I was in one of the like the stylized photo rooms,

553
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 1: just watching guys come in and out, and I walk

554
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 1: in and I see number eighty one and number one

555
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 1: together like they're doing They're doing stuff with the ball,

556
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 1: They're flipping it around, and it looked like some sort

557
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 1: of NBA combine situation right where you have just two

558
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:28,479
Speaker 1: massive wide receivers. And like, I know it's early, I

559
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:30,679
Speaker 1: know it's June, and Quentin Johnson has been here for

560
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 1: six weeks and we've seen some of the pretty throws

561
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:39,399
Speaker 1: and catches by Justin to Johnston on social media. But

562
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,639
Speaker 1: I can I can only help but be excited about

563
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 1: what this offense could look like if he can catch

564
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 1: on quickly. And apparently he's he's catching catching on quickly.

565
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:52,639
Speaker 1: And when you have a guy like Mike and Keenan

566
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 1: in the room that helps. But that was the biggest

567
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 1: takeaway just seeing those guys up close, how big they are.

568
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:02,400
Speaker 1: And then you add Paul and Gerald Everett and Donald Parhum.

569
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:06,239
Speaker 1: I mean, Justin Herbert is he has massive weapons man,

570
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,159
Speaker 1: And we've said it every week, but it was so

571
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,199
Speaker 1: cool to kind of see it up close and to

572
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 1: see how quickly I feel like Quentin has been a

573
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,199
Speaker 1: real part of that wide receiver room against him and

574
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 1: like Henley was talking about the linebacking room and with

575
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 1: Kendricks and K nine and how he feels so comfortable

576
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 1: in there, it feels like these rookies who've been here

577
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 1: for six weeks have been here for a couple of years.

578
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 1: And that's a great thing and that I think shows

579
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 1: your culture in your locker room.

580
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 3: I think the caption on the social media post from

581
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 3: Megan and the social media team was we have a

582
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 3: type and it was and it was look and it's

583
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,959
Speaker 3: some people will push back against that. No, that's not

584
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 3: what this is. These are talented. It's no, that's exactly

585
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 3: what this is. They do have a type, and it's

586
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 3: something that is damn near impossible to contend with. You

587
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 3: Just when if you were to line up Quintin Johnston,

588
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 3: Keenan Allen in the slot, Quintin and Mike Williams outside

589
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 3: Keenan the slot and Donald Parham one of these guys

590
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 3: getting free release, and you better have someone that's got

591
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 3: the kind of size and we talked about you know,

592
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 3: we talked about Johnston and some catching things that some

593
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 3: people had it. You know, he had a hydroperate at TCU.

594
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 3: Is he catching the ball out his body? We're already

595
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 3: seeing Chris Bady work through that. We're seeing one hand catches,

596
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,239
Speaker 3: We're seeing him really extend his hands and snet out.

597
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 3: It's gonna be different when you have a guy on

598
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 3: your body and things like that. Things change when you

599
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 3: get in the midst of a game and you know,

600
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 3: snaps are taken and people are moving around, because then

601
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 3: you kind of have these muscle memory issues. But what

602
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 3: we're seeing is I think what this vision that Tom

603
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 3: Telesco and John and Brandon and all these guys have,

604
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 3: and that is there's nothing you can do, like you

605
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 3: just you can't. It's kind of what Miami was trying

606
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 3: to do with all the speed. It's like, well, if

607
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 3: we have Raheem Mostert and we have Jalen Waddle and

608
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 3: we have Tyreek Kill, we just got too much speed.

609
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 3: You can't slow it there. You can't keep up with everyone.

610
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 3: And the chargers are doing the you know, and look

611
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 3: what the forty nine ers do. Well, we've got all

612
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 3: these versatile weapons that you can take a hand off.

613
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 3: Deebo can take a hand off, Christian can take a

614
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 3: hand Now, all of these guys can go out. And

615
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 3: by the way, there are big freaking dudes and they're

616
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 3: gonna knock your block off because they're all two hundred

617
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 3: and twenty two hundred and thirty pounds. And so you

618
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 3: see a lot of these incredibly effective offenses haves this

619
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 3: thing going. We've already talked about the Bengals and all

620
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 3: the height that they have and Chase and Higgins and

621
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 3: Boyd and so I think the Chargers recognize that. And

622
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 3: while Jordan Addison or A. Z. A. Flowers you know that,

623
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 3: and we've talked about, you know, what our preferences were

624
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 3: and who we thought they might be great, that you know,

625
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 3: who might be great to take. But I think it's

626
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 3: clear what their vision is and that you can't look

627
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 3: at Mike Williams and Quinton John's like what are you

628
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 3: gonna do? How are you possibly going to contend with that?

629
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 3: If Johnston realizes the potential that everybody believes he has

630
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 3: and so and Plus I also liked watching a lot

631
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 3: of the practices, and you saw a lot of those

632
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 3: sort of what people don't perhaps equate with a guy

633
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 3: that's that big, is that quick burst, because you think

634
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 3: that's typically your smaller guys. But that's what Johnston really

635
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 3: did a lot of at TCU, and you saw a

636
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 3: lot of that in the practices, these quick slants, snatch

637
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 3: it and go and he's able to accelerate and pull away,

638
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 3: and I think you saw a lot of that as well.

639
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, when you have two big guys who have that

640
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 1: quick person can go like Mike can go, Mike can

641
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 1: go deep. And yeah, I always feel like they've they've

642
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 1: constructed this team money based on how Justin Herbert plays,

643
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: because Justin seemingly he'll make the right throw, he'll get

644
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 1: you in the right position, he will take a risk

645
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 1: that many others wouldn't take because he can because of

646
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 1: his arm and his arm talent. And I think that

647
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 1: was another topic of conversation this week was Kellen Moore's offense.

648
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 1: Is it exactly going to look like it's going to

649
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 1: be just bombs away, bombs away? We will see in

650
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 1: late July and going into preseason, and obviously we've won

651
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 1: against the Dolphins. But when you have a quarterback like Justin,

652
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 1: he will go deep, but he will also maybe make

653
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 1: a crazy throw that not many in the league will attempt.

654
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: And you have this run after the catch ability in

655
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: Quinton Johnston, and we've seen Mike do it, and we've

656
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 1: seen Keenan take the ball and go. So it may

657
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 1: not necessarily be goes go routes every single play, but

658
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 1: I think this is an offense that is equipped to

659
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 1: score a lot of points. We know what Austin is

660
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 1: capable of in the backfield, Jalen Geiton and Joshua Palmer.

661
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 2: It was good to see Joshua at the facility.

662
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 1: Gerald Everett a guy that you know you talk about Parham,

663
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 1: Gerald Everts, another guy that can take the ball and go.

664
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Speaker 1: So Kella Moore has so much to work with and

665
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: I think when fans come to Jackham at Sports Complex

666
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: in July, they'll see this offense slowly start to take shape.

667
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 1: You know. Sebastia Joseph Day says like off seasons like

668
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: baking a cake.

669
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 2: Right, you got to go.

670
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 1: Through all the requisite steps first, But fans are gonna

671
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 1: see what Kellen Moore's offense is ultimately gonna look like

672
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 1: come late July.

673
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, you brought up the the Justin Herbert throws and

674
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 3: Chris Chris Simms does a pod and he was doing

675
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 3: his annual quarterback rankings, he and Ahmed and I think

676
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 3: he had Justin. I think he had Justin at four.

677
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 3: So he had Mahomes, you know, spoiler alert, Mahomes one,

678
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 3: Burrow two, Allen three, Herbert four. And then the thing

679
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 3: that really stood out, and he does such a great

680
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 3: job of breaking this stuff down, but that we get

681
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 3: to see and I don't think enough people point out,

682
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 3: and I was stoked to hear him say it is

683
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 3: the pinpoint accuracy with which Herbert throws these back shoulder

684
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 3: throw specifically, because that's what we see all the time, right,

685
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 3: We just that the Mike Williams. We know it's coming,

686
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 3: and the opponent knows it's coming, and there's not a

687
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 3: damn thing they can do about it because Mike's too

688
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 3: good at getting it and Herbert is way too good

689
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 3: at putting it exactly where it has to be. And

690
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 3: that's that's what I'm guessing. The went into a lot

691
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 3: of the thought process for Johnston is man, when you

692
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 3: look at this team and this when you look at

693
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 3: this offense, and when you really make your impact, those

694
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 3: are backbreaking plays. Those are gut punches when it's third

695
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 3: and eight and you feel like, okay, so now they're

696
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,800
Speaker 3: behind the sticks. We got them. We're bringing an extra rusher.

697
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 3: And Herbert throws this ball exactly where it has to be,

698
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 3: on a back shoulder, and Mike Williams has it. And

699
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 3: so when you now bring in what Keenan, you know

700
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 3: and we know what Keenan's capable of doing. He's capable

701
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,399
Speaker 3: of going up and getting those things too. He also

702
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,240
Speaker 3: brought up just the windows with which Herbert is able

703
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 3: to throw passes into that others just can't. I think

704
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 3: that's sort of where that catch radius idea comes in,

705
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 3: of Okay, if we can give him an even bigger

706
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 3: catch radius and we know how precise he is, it

707
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 3: makes it easier for those guys because there is so

708
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 3: much room for air. And yet there isn't one degree

709
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 3: of error from the way he throws the football, no

710
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 3: matter if he's under the rest, if he's on the move,

711
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 3: if he's falling backwards, if he's moving to his right

712
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 3: and he's throwing to his left, moving there his left

713
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 3: and he's throwing, it just doesn't matter for Herbert that

714
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 3: the ball is exactly where it needs to be. And

715
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 3: so when you put players like that out there, especially

716
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 3: in the red zone, when things get weird. You know,

717
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 3: you can move the ball up and down the field.

718
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 3: A lot of teams can do that, but things get

719
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 3: weird when you get in the red zone and everything

720
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 3: gets compacted and everything needs to be more precise. That's

721
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:54,280
Speaker 3: where he really thrives, and that's where someone like Johnston

722
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 3: really fits into what he likes to do.

723
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: I'm very intrigued to see how Kelvin Moore is gonna

724
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 1: use Quick Johnson with all these other weapons, money, a

725
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 1: couple other observations for me, and then I'll open it

726
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 1: up to you before we get out of here. It

727
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 1: seems like I, for whatever reason, thought did this Jacksonville thing.

728
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 1: This was going to be a theme. It was going

729
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 1: to take us into September. It was going to be

730
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 1: something that, you know, remember what happened in Jacksonville. Dorwin

731
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 1: don't want to talk about it anymore. He's done, He's

732
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:27,240
Speaker 1: moved forward. They asked Mike about getting hurt in Denver

733
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 1: and not being able to play, and he said, listen,

734
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 1: whatever coach Stalely wants to do. He wanted us out there.

735
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:33,959
Speaker 1: I was going to be out there.

736
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 2: You know. Of course he was disappointed he wasn't in

737
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:36,359
Speaker 2: the game.

738
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Speaker 1: I feel like leaving for summer break has kind of

739
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: signaled to me anyway that Jacksonville's done. Kellen Moose here,

740
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore wasn't here for Jacksonville. Quentin Johnson was here.

741
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 1: A lot of these guys don't want to talk about

742
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 1: it anymore because it's a new season, it's a new team,

743
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 1: and frankly, I think it's a good thing. There was

744
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:56,839
Speaker 1: part of me maybe throughout the off season saying, hey,

745
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 1: you want to use this as fuel and motivation. I

746
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 1: think he got a blush it. Man, it is a

747
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 1: whole new season. You learn from those experiences. But I

748
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 1: don't think these guys, frankly, want to talk about it anymore.

749
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 1: I don't blame them.

750
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:10,879
Speaker 3: No, I don't blame them for not wanting to talk

751
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 3: about it. I do appreciate our media for asking about it, though,

752
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 3: I think some know it's an uncomfortable you know, it's

753
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 3: an uncomfortable question, it's an uncomfortable topic. You know, Derwin's

754
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 3: captain of that defense that gave up a twenty seven

755
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,720
Speaker 3: zero lead. You know, and Mike Williams is a weapon

756
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 3: that no doubt would have been a huge advantage for

757
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 3: the Chargers in that game, especially in the red zone

758
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 3: when they came away with a couple of field goals

759
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 3: early on, when they could have had a couple more touchdowns.

760
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:38,240
Speaker 3: So I appreciate that they that they asked the questions.

761
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 3: And I do think you know when you said it,

762
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 3: you know you said it there at the end, Chris,

763
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 3: that you thought, well, this could be good fuel for

764
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 3: next year, and now you realize they just don't want

765
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 3: to talk about it. They just want to move on.

766
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 3: I do think there is value. I think there is

767
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 3: value in remembering how that felt, because there's not a

768
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 3: lot of really good There aren't many good teams that

769
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 3: lose twenty seven zero leads. They're just if you're a

770
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 3: good team, that does not happen. If you're a good player,

771
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:05,879
Speaker 3: you don't allow what to happen. I'm not saying they're

772
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:09,879
Speaker 3: not good players because things weird, things happen, there are anomalies,

773
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 3: and I think it's important to remember this happened to us,

774
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 3: and we're way too good for something like that to

775
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 3: happen to us. That's that's the fact that we became

776
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 3: a team that gave up the largest lead in a

777
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 3: second the largest second half lead, or you know whatever,

778
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 3: the largest lead in a in a playoff game. Yeah,

779
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 3: that sucks, and that's stuck to you. And sorry, you

780
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 3: may not want to talk about it, but it's sticking

781
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 3: to you because it was record setting. So I do

782
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 3: think there's a little bit of value in the only

783
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 3: way you're going to get past that is to make

784
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,840
Speaker 3: sure you get past it and it no longer becomes

785
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 3: a topic of conversation. And that's starting fast and not

786
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 3: starting two and two, but starting three and one or

787
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 3: four and zero being six and two at your you

788
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 3: know whatever, being four and one at your boy. And

789
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 3: that's how you get past it, because now the focus

790
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 3: becomes this year as opposed, because right now the focus

791
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:11,800
Speaker 3: is gonna be how incredibly painful the way the season

792
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 3: ended last year. So it's funny you said, I'll let

793
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 3: you get to a couple of things. It was one

794
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 3: of the things I was gonna bring up, which is,

795
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 3: you know, I appreciate it. I appreciate that the media

796
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 3: was comfortable doing that, and I think the players did

797
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 3: the perfect that the players answered it exactly how they should.

798
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 3: Just it's over, Like, what are you gonna do? Go

799
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,839
Speaker 3: home every night and watch the film and figure out

800
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 3: Like I remember two years ago, Chris, we were talking

801
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 3: about it. Man, you watch that overtime against against the Raiders,

802
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 3: and man, there's a couple of plays that you can

803
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 3: just go, oh, you know, and you can do that,

804
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 3: and you can and every single team in the league

805
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 3: can do it. If you get to the NFC Championship

806
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 3: or AFC Championship games, those teams can do it and

807
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 3: just go, oh, you know, the right tackle for the

808
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 3: forty nine ers, If only I had blocked McGlinchey, if

809
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 3: only I had blocked him a second longer than party

810
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,720
Speaker 3: doesn't get that arm hit, you know, the Joe Burrow

811
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 3: and the Super Bowl? Oh god, how did I not

812
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:08,720
Speaker 3: feel the pressure coming from Aaron Donald.

813
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 2: If I had just.

814
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 3: Released that ball two tenths of a second sooner, I've

815
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 3: got Jamar wide open down the field, and we win

816
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl, like you can. Every single team has

817
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 3: those moments and they're sick of talk about them because

818
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 3: it sucks, you know, it sucks to have to relive it.

819
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 3: So I appreciate the way they answered it. I appreciate

820
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 3: the questions because it is good to remember that it

821
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 3: can be taken from you. That as great as things

822
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:34,919
Speaker 3: might be going, when you're up twenty seven to zero

823
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:36,879
Speaker 3: in a game in the NFL and you're getting ready

824
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 3: to face Kansas City, a team that you had on

825
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 3: the ropes just four weeks prior in the divisional round,

826
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 3: and you feel really good about your chances can be

827
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:48,760
Speaker 3: taken from you, you know, and just the in two quarters,

828
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 3: it can all disappear.

829
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:50,839
Speaker 2: YEP.

830
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 1: Now, I think there's definitely gonna be moments throughout the year.

831
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 1: Will you harken back and look at those those tough moments,

832
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 1: whether it was the Raiders or the Jaguars and the

833
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 1: guys that were on this team and they said no more.

834
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,359
Speaker 1: But at the same time, there's a new offense. Now

835
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 1: there's a new guy call not calling the plays, but

836
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: a new defensive coordinator, Derek Ansley. They're they're changing this

837
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 1: offense up to be a little bit more explosive. But

838
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:18,720
Speaker 1: you're right, the media, you got to ask those questions.

839
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 1: You have talked to Mike Williams. You haven't talked to

840
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 1: Mike Williams since that went down. Derwin is the leader.

841
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 2: Man.

842
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 1: I remember going to that locker room and it was

843
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: so eerily silent that I've never never felt like that before.

844
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 1: I can only imagine what those guys felt after that game.

845
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: So you're always going to have those experiences. But I

846
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 1: think starting a new in training camp being hey, this

847
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:45,399
Speaker 1: is a new team and it's time to really show

848
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 1: our full potential. The thing about this this Daly administration

849
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 1: nine and eight, ten and seven, you're making steps, but

850
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 1: this next step I think has to be a really

851
00:41:55,680 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 1: big step considering what's at stake, considering the ross, sure,

852
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 1: the cap number next year for some of these players,

853
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 1: and obviously Number ten's contract coming, and I don't think

854
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:09,240
Speaker 1: that's going to be an issue.

855
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:09,479
Speaker 2: Money.

856
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: Justin's not going to make it an issue. I can't

857
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 1: imagine it not getting done before he takes the first

858
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 1: snap against Miami.

859
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 3: I hope it does. And again we said this, it's

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Speaker 3: two sides. Don't know what his agents are trying to accomplish,

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Speaker 3: don't know what the team is trying to do. It

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Speaker 3: should be I know it's easy for me to say,

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Speaker 3: but it should be an easy situation, like it should

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Speaker 3: be an easy negotiation if you're on the Chargers side,

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Speaker 3: it's hey, here's the market, let's make you the highest

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Speaker 3: paid quarterback in the league, and let's get out it.

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Speaker 3: Let's just move on, let's figure it out, and let's

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Speaker 3: move on, because that's what it's going to take. And

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Speaker 3: that's just the way these contracts are. And if Burrow

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Speaker 3: gets done a little bit earlier, and now, I would

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Speaker 3: rather get it done before Burrow and before Mahomes renegotiates,

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Speaker 3: because then things get weird, because then it's like, well,

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Speaker 3: you know, justin Joe's one, he's been to two AFC,

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Speaker 3: He's been to a super Bowl in an AFC Championship game.

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Speaker 3: And oh, you know, Patrick's got two Super Bowls and

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Speaker 3: three Super Bowl appearances. Like, you don't want to get

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Speaker 3: into that, I think, you know, you know, Josh Josh Allen,

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Speaker 3: I know, they just gave him a little bit more money,

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Speaker 3: but he's been a you know, like that's he's one

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Speaker 3: playoff games. You don't want to do that. Yeah, you

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Speaker 3: just want to you know, you know, these numbers are

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Speaker 3: going to continue to go up, and that's just the

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Speaker 3: reality of it, and just get it done, get it

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Speaker 3: paid before it gets weird.

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Speaker 1: And you already had the Jalen Hurts. He was the

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Speaker 1: last guy to do it right. He's been to a

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. He would have been Super Bowl MVP had

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Speaker 1: the Eagles one.

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Speaker 3: That's what I mean.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, alright, money, Uh listen, Mini camps over. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna keep this thing going though throughout the summer.

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Speaker 2: I think guests.

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Speaker 1: I think we're gonna get some guests on over the

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Speaker 1: next few weeks. Talk about talk about this upcoming season.

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Speaker 1: Get some outside perspective, get some outside perspective, Maybe know

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Speaker 1: your opponent, see what the Raiders and BRONC Goes and

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Speaker 1: Chiefs are up to, and get you guys ready for

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Speaker 1: Jack Hambitt Sports Complex.

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Speaker 2: At the end of next month.

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Speaker 1: So always appreciate you guys listening for money.

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Speaker 2: I'm Chris. This has been chargea