1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,560 Speaker 1: What up y'all this shit Maine manor Memphis bleek right here. 2 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 2: Welcome to rock Solid, a production of iHeart Radio and 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 2: the Black Effect Network in partnership with my guys over 4 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 2: at Drink Chimps Big. 5 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: With the year Memphis. I'm back at it, niggas. 6 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 2: Notice the difference, just going pro present, no stones. Yeah, 7 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 2: y'all you already know what it is. Back with another 8 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 2: addition of rock Solid. I got my brother in the building. 9 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 2: Been a very long time since I seen my guy 10 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 2: doing movies, TV shows, wilding out, flying all over the world, 11 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 2: battle when nigga's doing everything by g it's a pleasure 12 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 2: to have you in the building. 13 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: Make some noise for Nick Cann and my GE's you 14 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: know what I mean? 15 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 3: All day he said, we ain't gonna get it done, un up, word. 16 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 1: It up, man, I appreciate you. I appreciate you. 17 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 2: Stopping while pulling up to the set, man, it's been 18 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 2: a long time since they saw you. 19 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was to say, chest Oh, no, man, we 20 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 3: go back to the now, ain't yo. 21 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 2: They really don't know, man, rest of piece of my 22 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 2: guy Klepto, Because I remember, yo, I remember that's when 23 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 2: you was coming with the balls. 24 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 1: This before the acting. 25 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 3: That was the struggle too. That's when I really understood 26 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 3: how the game work and had to pick a lane 27 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,919 Speaker 3: because I came in on some like like even having 28 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 3: like all of that the ghost writing stuff, I didn't 29 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 3: I didn't understand how the game work. I didn't understand 30 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 3: this was a game about songmaking. And then once you 31 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 3: get it to where it's like, you know again, I'm 32 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 3: trying to battle. I'm going to show you my hottest 33 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 3: this thing. I'm looking up the cast like you and 34 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 3: it's like, yo, I could speak. I was like, I 35 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 3: didn't know how to at the time, how to put 36 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 3: a song together as an MC, how to not just 37 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 3: to be saying stuff. And that I learned from y'all, man. 38 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 3: I learned how Like in. 39 00:01:56,120 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: The studio in Marcy, Charlamagne tried to fright. 40 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 2: Nick was in Marcy like, yeah, you know what I'm 41 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 2: saying with us, But y'all. 42 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 3: That's why, guy, that's what I'm saying. Do type cats. Man, 43 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 3: they helped I'm gonna be honest, they helped me pick 44 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 3: a lane because I'm being so authentic and comfortable on 45 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 3: my skin. But when you got the guys who don't 46 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,839 Speaker 3: see the vision even whether you're talking that ship. Well, 47 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 3: like it's like, all right, I'm gonna go show y'all. 48 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go show you how I could do it, yes, right, 49 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 3: my own way and still be cool with the street. 50 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 3: It's the cat still be cool with everybody, but not 51 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:43,959 Speaker 3: trying to prove myself to nobody. And that's what me 52 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 3: and charlottete. It's always been in fun. But back back 53 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 3: in the day it used to be frustrating with cats 54 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:54,239 Speaker 3: like charlomagne E Brow all of them guys who really 55 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 3: are the gatekeepers and the taste makers at the time, 56 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 3: because I would want to be like guy Bars I 57 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 3: could put like And that's one of the reasons why 58 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 3: I even created wild'n Out, because it was like I 59 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 3: could still spit talk that ship, but if I do 60 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 3: it in the setting that acceptable in mainstream and bring 61 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 3: the real to the mainstream. I was like, this is 62 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 3: gonna work. Now we looked twenty years later and ships 63 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 3: still gone. 64 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: That's right. 65 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 2: Man Like wild Out is a conglomerate, you know, appreciate, like, 66 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 2: what was the thought process, like you just said. 67 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 1: And all of that. 68 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 3: It was it was mainly man like taking all the 69 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 3: world that I was operating in and bringing bringing them 70 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 3: together from you know, all of the stand up stuff 71 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 3: and really trying to put them type guys on and 72 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 3: from Cat William to Kevin Hart to like we was 73 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 3: just cast sitting in the front of the comedy club 74 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 3: or in the back talking that ship and then all 75 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 3: my hip hop find this was just like they had. 76 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 3: That's when Battling was at its height height. He's like 77 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 3: that was that like even at you know, the. 78 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 2: They don't built the battle Rap League and still going yeah, no, 79 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 2: it's crazy. Your platform is is definitely the few that's 80 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 2: firing underground to that for sure. 81 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 1: So I've been looking like that. I gotta get on 82 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: wilding out. 83 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:22,479 Speaker 2: I have my artist on wilding out casting shout out 84 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 2: cast all day. 85 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: I remember where he was like, Yo, I'm doing wilding now. 86 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:29,359 Speaker 1: I'm like, no way, you better go up being killing 87 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: gonna smoke you. 88 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 3: He got with them big personalities like that. That the 89 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 3: best on the show. You know what I mean, when 90 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 3: you come here trying to be too cool for school. 91 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 2: Yo, Yo, I'll be trying to tell dudes that even 92 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 2: with doing this, it's like yo, we at the end, 93 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 2: like you know, being a rapp up. Everything was yo, 94 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 2: the image when the camera come on, you do the interviews, YO, 95 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 2: let them know we GenEd up from here we outside. 96 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 2: It's like your family. We at the end of our career. 97 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 2: Now rap to the grown end. Yes, you don't have 98 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 2: to be portrayed the young boy, no more than take 99 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 2: the fell off. 100 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:07,919 Speaker 1: Like show them who you really are. Man, Like you 101 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:08,559 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. 102 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:11,359 Speaker 2: And it's like that, like we don't always carry guns 103 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 2: and I don't drink a suspense for break for breakfast 104 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 2: every day. 105 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just not reality. 106 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 3: Nah, that's the real shit. And that's what wild'n Out 107 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 3: gave me is the opportunity to do to come still 108 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 3: be yourself but have fun. It's beautiful scenery around. 109 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: I definitely got the lady one hundred percent. Man. 110 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 3: That's the thing that just put everybody at ease, you 111 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like everybody friendly, everybody cracking jokes, 112 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 3: and like I said, man, were about to be in 113 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 3: season twenty two right now. 114 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:45,359 Speaker 2: Damn God blasts bro twenty two years and that's cooking. 115 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 2: But I want to go back to a little bit 116 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 2: because after the rapping, I remember when you're saying, yo, 117 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 2: I'm gonna try this acting thing. I'm gonna try this 118 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 2: acting thing. Yeah, and I got an opportunity. 119 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: They send me the. 120 00:05:56,400 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 3: Drum roll everything like the road shit to everybody. 121 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,919 Speaker 2: Right, But I told you know. Jay was mad that 122 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 2: I didn't want to do it. 123 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:06,359 Speaker 1: Oh ll yo. He was so mad at me for 124 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 1: not wanting to do the movie. 125 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 2: But I was on my I'm not a drummer, I'm 126 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 2: from Marci And it looked like if it don't work, 127 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 2: and it was a. 128 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 3: Real new like the character was written probably a dude 129 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 3: from Harlem, but it was so New York because that 130 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 3: was the thing about taking New York to Atlanta, so 131 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 3: you you could have killed that shit. 132 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: I was honesty. I was afraid. 133 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 2: I was afraid of the cameras because I still have 134 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 2: my wrap of veil. And then I was looking at 135 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 2: it like, if it don't work, you can't go back 136 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 2: to the hood and tell them, yo, I'm trapping. 137 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: They like, no, you're not. 138 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 2: You fell, You're not a trapper no more. You a 139 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 2: felt drummer. That okay, how did the road fall into 140 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 2: your lap? 141 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: And I know you was like, this is golf. 142 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 3: Same shit. I mean, obviously, I always been like a 143 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 3: musician can suck around on the drums. Uh, you know, 144 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 3: just from like church and stuff like that. And then 145 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 3: it came across like I was out taking meeting in 146 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 3: la and they, you know, the cast, like you know 147 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 3: how the drama was like yeah, and then but yeah, 148 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 3: when I tell you because I know it's true, they 149 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 3: was like, Yo, they're reading everybody. I had to go 150 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 3: in like eight times for that ship, eight different times. 151 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: I thought you probably went through a training. 152 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, by the time I got it, but like, 153 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 3: you know, but that was the thing. And then you know, 154 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 3: we got to Atlanta and I tapped in with my 155 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 3: man Dallas Austin and knew that it was his story 156 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 3: and we really you know, the train. It was like 157 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 3: a two month process to get right before we actually 158 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 3: started life. It's funny too, because what you want that 159 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 3: plane when we went from New York to Miami for 160 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 3: the summer jam ship for. 161 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: Jayson I believe, so yeah, we s a summer jam 162 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 1: hell yeah. 163 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 3: Because I remember when it was because this was before 164 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 3: I was I mean, before anything popped off. Yes, and 165 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 3: I remember, uh tone you know toning track basters. He 166 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 3: was like, Yo, we're gonna take the plane and I 167 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 3: remember it was twelve of us. I remember it was Cays. 168 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 3: I remember Jay. I probably wasn't and I felt like 169 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 3: I can't remember what it was. But that's like Jay was, 170 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 3: you know, I was popping. You know, we was talking 171 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 3: ship and you know, Tom was telling like, Yo, this 172 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 3: kid really got it. Jame's like, yeah, I seen him before, 173 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 3: like that type ship, but we had never really kicked it. 174 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 3: And that was the first time. I feel like, you 175 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 3: know Leo at the time Leonor said the h sent 176 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 3: the jet. Yeah yeah, and and and Jay was like 177 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 3: I felt like you was there though. But then we 178 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 3: just flew down for a few hours. Yeah, no, what Atlanta? 179 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 3: It was wherever the summer jam was and JD was performing. 180 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:43,319 Speaker 1: It was Atlanta. 181 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. 182 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 1: It was performing. 183 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 2: It was Atlanta because I remember we flew to Orlanta 184 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 2: a few times and performed their summer jam out. 185 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 3: And then on the way back the craziest ship like 186 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 3: we did the whole thing in the club. There's dinner all 187 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 3: that ship and then fucking the driver. It was a 188 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 3: female driver. She got so excited. We was on the 189 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 3: tarmac about to go back up. She got so excited, 190 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 3: then wanted to get a picture at the probably an 191 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 3: autograph with Jay. She jumps out the car. We on 192 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 3: the tarmac, that jumps off. The suv runs and Jay, okay, 193 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 3: I get a picture. The sub starts rolling towards the 194 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 3: plane and then she jumps back in. Yeah, tries to 195 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 3: jump up. Security still in the car and all of 196 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 3: that type shit. Instead of pushing the break, she puts gas. 197 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 3: That shit took off the nose of the plane. 198 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 1: No, I wasn't that. 199 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 3: I'm the next day the Jay we had to stay. 200 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 3: They had to get a new plane. All that year 201 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 3: we had to stay. It was only supposed to be 202 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 3: a couple of hours we was going back to New York. 203 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 3: Took off the whole front of the plane. Swore you 204 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,439 Speaker 3: was there, but because I remember being because we and 205 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 3: then we ended up going back to like the little 206 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 3: restaurant and then kicking it some more. And that's that 207 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 3: ship was so crazy. But then I remember I probably 208 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 3: saw Ja a couple of years later drum Line, and 209 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 3: he was like yeah that. He was like He's like 210 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 3: I remember, and now he's like, now you're walking in it. 211 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 3: He's like you're out here killing and that you know 212 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 3: that was ship two thousand. 213 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: Function that two thousand. Ye that's how long J on them. 214 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: PJ just started. 215 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 3: Now he be. 216 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: Crazy. 217 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 3: That one was total yo. 218 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: So you done had TV deals, tech deals, movie deals. 219 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 2: Wait first before we get into the tech in the 220 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 2: TV bro loved don't course the things you every hood 221 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 2: nigga fuck with. That's a classic. 222 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 3: But I seen that movie once, Yo, ship. I seen 223 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 3: that movie, Like had a fucking blast making that ship 224 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 3: that it looked like it. Yeah, but that shit, like 225 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 3: to me, it showed like cause I did that right 226 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 3: after I did drum Line, and I was just trying 227 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 3: to show the diverse ability as an actress. I was like, 228 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 3: all right, I'm gonna do you know, the the knuckle heads, 229 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 3: all them kids. And then I was like, now I'm 230 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 3: gonna do some like suburban nerdy ship just to showcat 231 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 3: you know, the different. 232 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 233 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 3: It was because even the thing about it I got 234 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:34,439 Speaker 3: to like I named it love don't cost the thing 235 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 3: no way. 236 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. 237 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I did a draft on my own. I 238 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 3: was like, let me let me touch it before we 239 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 3: actually jump in and bring in my squad. And that 240 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 3: was everybody from Keenan Thompson. Obviously you know, Steve Harvey 241 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:50,199 Speaker 3: playing my Pops. But uh yeah, I mean, what was 242 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 3: that shit called beforehand? It was some other shit. And 243 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 3: that was at the time j Lo had the song 244 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 3: love Don't coss. The thing it's actually based off of. 245 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 3: The script is based off of a movie he Can't 246 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 3: Buy Me Love, you know, the Ship from the Age 247 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 3: with Patrick Dempsey. So we did like the newer, updated version, 248 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 3: and I was like, Can't Buy Me Love is a 249 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 3: Beatles song, So I was like, why don't we just 250 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:14,719 Speaker 3: name this whatever song is pop the same shit, Love 251 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 3: Don't cost a thing. And then so even from there 252 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,319 Speaker 3: we just I just had to put my spin on it. 253 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 3: And then you know, like you said, turn into a 254 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:23,559 Speaker 3: hood class said. 255 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:26,959 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's a major class. Trust I still white. 256 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 2: Come on TV to this day. 257 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 3: I used to come on TV like every weekend. 258 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 1: That nigga's like this, let's watch this whole day. 259 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 2: Then, yo, you know it was a room up back 260 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:41,319 Speaker 2: in the day because you was on Nickolodeon and so 261 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 2: you know, the hood thought you owned Nick. 262 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 3: Well that's the thing too, like it was. I didn't 263 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 3: own it, like I was, this is a publicly traded coming. 264 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 3: But when I started the Hella young and then I 265 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 3: was like, man, one day, I'm gonna run this company. 266 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 3: And by the time I was twenty eight, thing two 267 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 3: that From two thousand and eight to twenty eight Team 268 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 3: I was the chairman of Team Nick. So I had 269 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 3: to create right there at Times Square fifteen, Fishing Broadway, 270 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 3: had the Crazy office, was running all of the content 271 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 3: for you know, from twelve to eighteen and just you know, 272 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 3: shout out to everybody up at Viacom. That gave me 273 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 3: the opportunity to really be an executive. And that's like 274 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 3: following the footsteps of Jay. I saw what he was 275 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 3: doing over there at Death jam At, you know, and 276 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 3: I was like I could If Jay can do that, 277 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 3: then I can get over here. And like I was 278 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 3: developing mass Up, created a couple of war shows and 279 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 3: TV shows and was really over there. And that was 280 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:45,439 Speaker 3: the campaign. I mean, I'm sure the young people remember it. 281 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:49,679 Speaker 3: The campaign was like I was the chairman of nickelodeonself. 282 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 3: I had like Taylor Swift calling in the office congratulated 283 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 3: me like it was in my office. Was crazy because 284 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 3: we used to shoot in my office. So it was 285 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 3: Hella big because it had the side with all of 286 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:02,679 Speaker 3: the cameras and shit. So I've literally had the biggest 287 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 3: office up at Paramount Viacom because we were just over 288 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 3: there getting it like that for a decade's and that's 289 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:12,079 Speaker 3: like literally going from a teenager to being an executive 290 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 3: over there was like a dream come true. 291 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: That's what's somepping. I swear everybody thought you did, like, yeah, 292 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: that's his network. 293 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 3: The crazy ship. A nickelodeon is a back in the day, 294 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 3: the way the cartoons were created, Like used to go 295 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 3: to like a Carnivore or some ship like that to 296 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 3: watch them ships, and you had to put a nickel 297 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 3: in a machine and trend that ship. And that's what 298 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 3: that machine was, called a nickelodeon. 299 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: Oh wow, it's crazy. Learned some ship show. So what 300 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: was your vision behind building incredible? Man? 301 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 3: Really, I've been fucking around, Like to me, my dream 302 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 3: was always to be a producer, to be and and 303 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 3: even like an executive for doing on some like I 304 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 3: was watching his move from Bad Boys so so deaf, 305 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 3: you know, Rockefeller, I'm watching you can have your own company, 306 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 3: And I never really want like as much as that 307 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 3: was the thing too, Like I wasn't trying to be 308 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 3: no rapper. I just wanted to be the producer and 309 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 3: be the cat behind all my guys in the hood. 310 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 3: And so even in high school, I was like, look, 311 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 3: I'm gonna fall back. I'll make these beats all that 312 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 3: type shit. And I created my first before. It was incredible. 313 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 3: It's called Cannout Ball, and I just had all my 314 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 3: guys with me. And then once I really incorporated television 315 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 3: and film with it as well, I was like, all right, well, 316 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 3: I can't have a film company called connout Bass. I 317 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 3: was like, I'm gonna call that shit incredible. And so 318 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 3: once we put that together and that was the thing. 319 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 3: It's like, it's a multi media company. I want to 320 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 3: do shit that niggas don't think. 321 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: You can do. 322 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 3: That's right, and that's and that really early on we 323 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 3: created incredible and shit, it's been rocking ever since. But 324 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 3: just like I said, just learning from y'all, you know 325 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 3: what I mean, Like. 326 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 2: You've been doing shit niggas think you can't do. Since again, 327 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 2: then when you first started, bro, what bro? You know 328 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 2: the host New Year's Eve, dropping all of the Lord, sure, 329 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 2: we red carpets all over. 330 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 3: I don't even like hosting, but they don't offer me 331 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 3: everything though, it's a mass single, like come season fourteen 332 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 3: right now. 333 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: No chill, I gotta hang with him. I need to 334 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: be in season one and a half. 335 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 2: One time you hurt Mad Singers fly b did you like, 336 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 2: was you help building build that structure? 337 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 3: Yeah? Way launch, Yeah, the way that worked. I left 338 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 3: America's got talent, and everybody was like, that's a dream job. 339 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 3: You made it. 340 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: You know. 341 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 3: Look you're making over the course of you know, it's 342 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 3: twenty million, you know what I mean, just all the 343 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 3: hosting TV type ship. 344 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 2: That's insane. There's no rap party. You're gonna have a 345 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 2: home when you're getting twenty millions. 346 00:16:58,600 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: So don't know. 347 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 3: So when when I left that, everybody thought it's over, 348 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 3: Like you never gonna get another opportunity like that. And 349 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 3: I left on my own. So like every Howard Stern 350 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,919 Speaker 3: ahead of Universal, Everybody's called me like, yo, what are 351 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 3: you doing? Like there's there's not another job like this 352 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 3: out there. There's only two chests out there. It was 353 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 3: rocking like that was me and Ryan Seacrest, right, you 354 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 3: know what I mean? So I was like, Nah, I'm 355 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 3: more than this. I'm more than just a TV host. 356 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:30,919 Speaker 3: I'm more than just this job. Is like America's got talent, 357 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 3: like as much as dope as it was. I wanted 358 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 3: to show that this job didn't define me so and 359 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 3: I was NBC. So I went and did the deal 360 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,439 Speaker 3: with the competitor. I went over, I went over the fox. 361 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:45,719 Speaker 3: I'm going across the street, and I was. And then 362 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 3: they was trying to give me the host all of 363 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 3: this ship. They was like, all right, well you did 364 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 3: Americans got talent. Here's this concept. It's the world's got 365 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 3: talent or kids got talent. I was like, I'm not 366 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 3: hosting ship. That feels like anything I've already done. And 367 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 3: then so they send him mad concepts from all over 368 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:06,640 Speaker 3: the world to me, and they sent me this tape 369 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:10,679 Speaker 3: of this fucking shit in Korea and they it was 370 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 3: all of these costumes and why I ain't understand what 371 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 3: the hell was going on. Motherfuckersoked like they was having 372 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 3: a blast, like it was a good time, and they 373 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 3: singing songs and the constant. I was like, that shit 374 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 3: could work. I was like, I could see that working 375 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 3: in America. So I took the Korean concept with our 376 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 3: spin on it executive producers for Out the Gate, and 377 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:35,880 Speaker 3: now it's more successful than America's got talent. We get 378 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:38,880 Speaker 3: into the bad way heavier than when we were over there, 379 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 3: and it literally jumped from one franchise and created another 380 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 3: one that's more successful than the job that everybody said 381 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:46,640 Speaker 3: I would never get again. 382 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 1: That's right, that's how you do it. 383 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 2: Man, When they closed the door, you kick it down 384 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:53,120 Speaker 2: exactly straight up, bro So. 385 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 3: I said, kicked a lot. 386 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 2: I remember when things went a little left with Vian Clone, 387 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 2: when you was like I'm done for. 388 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 3: I was that behind the scenes, and that was the 389 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:09,919 Speaker 3: thing too, like to me, a literally that shit was 390 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,479 Speaker 3: like heartbreaking almost because I had been there since a 391 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 3: teenager and I always thought they had my back. And 392 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 3: it's like that's the thing we talk about these big companies. 393 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:22,400 Speaker 3: The individuals and the companies be good people, but when 394 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 3: you're dealing with a corporate infrastructure and board members and 395 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:29,120 Speaker 3: you know, like the stock market and shit. 396 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: Like that, relationships don't matter. 397 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 3: They even if they was calling like man, we want 398 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 3: to fix this, but it's got so blown out of proportion, 399 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And it was literally on 400 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 3: one of my platforms, one of my podcasts, you know, 401 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 3: for me sitting down with Griff just pop popping and 402 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 3: talking about real life ships, right, talking about us talking 403 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:53,719 Speaker 3: like that's what always says, Like I was just standing 404 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 3: on business for the culture about like who we are 405 00:19:56,119 --> 00:20:00,360 Speaker 3: as black people. And then I think, you know, our 406 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 3: truths can hurt and offend sometimes, and people don't understand 407 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:08,119 Speaker 3: that when you speak to your truth, your your truth 408 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 3: can be a weapon to somebody else, and a. 409 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 1: Lot of people try to weaponize. 410 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's the thing. And that's why I still 411 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 3: got all this shit tattered on my neck because like 412 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 3: after all of that happened, because I was like, look, 413 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 3: all I want to speak is truth. And even Minister 414 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 3: fairy Con because I you know, I had to go 415 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:31,640 Speaker 3: sit down with him, were to Illinois and he was like, Yo, 416 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 3: it's the craziest thing is like even before it all 417 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 3: went down, like because it was footage from a while 418 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 3: ago that happened out there, and I went and said 419 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 3: with the minister and when he was like, now that 420 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 3: you're here, you know they're gonna come after you, right, 421 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 3: And I was like, what you mean? I think you 422 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 3: just talking this wisdom and I'm thinking he's talking bigger 423 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 3: picture it was, and not a week later that ship 424 00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 3: popped off that and because and that that footage was 425 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 3: somebody cut the footage together to make it look like 426 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 3: I was on some anti Semitic stuff. And then obviously 427 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 3: I'm sitting with Driff and that's the thing. I'm trying 428 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 3: to give him the opportunity, like you and me sitting 429 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:17,360 Speaker 3: here to talk about, you know, his redemption story, how 430 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,399 Speaker 3: he feel like, you know, his career and his life 431 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 3: was snatched away from him for him standing on business 432 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 3: thirty years ago. And then in the same setting, because 433 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:31,919 Speaker 3: of the conversation, the exact same thing happens to me. 434 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 3: And it's like, WHOA, this game is way heavier than 435 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 3: I thought it was. I'm thinking I'm at a level 436 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 3: to where I can have a conversation and where somebody 437 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 3: is this shit was really about reconciliation. That guots and 438 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 3: all of that stuff. 439 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 1: It wasn't even. 440 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 3: And the same process just based off of fear and 441 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 3: based off of you know, propaganda and even tropes and 442 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 3: things like it's just certain things you don't know, you 443 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,399 Speaker 3: stepping on lamb minds, you don't even know lambanks. 444 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 1: That's in fact in the Internet. 445 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 2: Take things and blow it out of power and drive 446 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 2: it to if you like dog, I wasn't even trying 447 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 2: to go over it. He was right here with this. 448 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 2: So I definitely feel you. 449 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 3: But that's what I'm saying. But what that showed me 450 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 3: even as a business man, I set back because the 451 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:25,360 Speaker 3: next question, I did have wilding Out in my back pocket. 452 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 3: I did. I did have such a real squad. That's 453 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 3: where I saw the loyalty. That's where I saw everybody 454 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:36,199 Speaker 3: stand firm me, you know. And that's the thing. It 455 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 3: never got to the point where they was like, because 456 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,679 Speaker 3: I mean, we were doing business, they couldn't remove me 457 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,679 Speaker 3: from wilding Out if they wanted to. But they were 458 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 3: doing it to where it's like, we're not even gonna 459 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,679 Speaker 3: do wilding out no more. You know what I mean, 460 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 3: We're not and and we we could kill it from 461 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 3: that setting, And you know, the squad was like, no 462 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 3: matter what y'all come with, we rocking with Nick. 463 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,119 Speaker 1: That's right, and that's how it's. 464 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:04,120 Speaker 3: And the deal got better when we came back. But everybody, 465 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 3: that's right, you know what I mean. And then even 466 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 3: you know, we was eating good even through the pandemic 467 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 3: because of the deal that I had set up after 468 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 3: all of that controversy. 469 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 2: Man, that's what that's a blessing man to stay afloat 470 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 2: during all of. 471 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 3: That, keep it goal because a lot like we did, 472 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 3: like yeah, you look at some of them seasons, like 473 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 3: we really did a season in a vibe kind of 474 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 3: like this. We called it wilding Out after Dark where 475 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 3: because we had to have a mask on, we can't 476 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:30,919 Speaker 3: have a real audience, the guests had to come in 477 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,360 Speaker 3: virtual and it created a whole other movement. We did 478 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 3: that for like two three seasons, crazy COVID change the olde. 479 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 3: But that was literally on the hip. That was all 480 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 3: twenty twenty. That was on the heels of them trying 481 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 3: to cancel me. 482 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: That's right, man. 483 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 2: So with that being said, and after all that I did, 484 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:52,439 Speaker 2: I know, black ownership and media and everything now means 485 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 2: even more than you. 486 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 3: That hundred percent I mean, because that's what that was 487 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 3: my saving grace in that process. And you know what 488 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:02,439 Speaker 3: I mean, and the real ones who knew who I was, 489 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 3: and the solid individuals stood next to me but understanding 490 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 3: like yo, you gotta build your own That's right, you 491 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 3: know what I mean? Because they you know that's even 492 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 3: this ship we see it with you know, o Gunk Shannon, 493 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 3: Like God, he got something to fall back on because 494 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,880 Speaker 3: he built his own right, you know what I mean 495 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 3: like that because we all want to be in business 496 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 3: with these companies like Disney and Paramount. But but but 497 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 3: there's guidelines that you got it alive by in the 498 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 3: corporate infrastructure. You cannot you can't go to work acting 499 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 3: the ass yo, doing whatever you wanted to see it 500 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 3: just fire my man the CEO. He was at the cold, Yo. 501 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: I thought he was feeling like you. 502 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 2: What's so crazy about that situation is he caused more 503 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 2: attention to itself and they ever would have been one 504 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 2: girl sitting around watching Jumbo truck footage like let me 505 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,439 Speaker 2: see if my man on this Jumbo Trump footage at 506 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 2: they have to Beyonce show. 507 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 1: Just because the way they reacted it blew up. 508 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 2: That's crazy over my man, Shaye Shane. He definitely got 509 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 2: something to fall back on them. Definitely built his. 510 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: Own, Yes, but he would out, Yo. He wowed out, bro. 511 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 3: He did. 512 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 1: He did some project ship. 513 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 3: I don't activities or what. 514 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:37,679 Speaker 1: I'm on my way to unk level. 515 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:39,879 Speaker 3: We passed that, Poppa. 516 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 1: That's how to work. 517 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 2: It all. 518 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 1: He was awful all straight up. 519 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 2: That's Modfi Timmate that's definitely not activity unk activity. 520 00:25:55,640 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 1: We chilling. We got bad needs were chilling, baby, we 521 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 1: vibe ball ship right Yo. 522 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 3: So what steps out to said, that's the man. 523 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 2: What's next for the Nick Cannon movement? Incredible wilding. Now 524 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 2: I know I got to get on the season, go 525 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:13,199 Speaker 2: up this. 526 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 3: Year, next season. 527 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: That's it. 528 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 3: We got twenty episodes about to drop uh end of 529 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 3: the summer, and then we're back making fresh. So that's 530 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 3: why I said we need you on that joint heavy. 531 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 3: And that's the thing, Like, it's so crazy that we 532 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 3: had so many in the vault because I mean you 533 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 3: got to get two inside with like the all the 534 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 3: dealings that's going on, but even like all that ship 535 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 3: with like uh Colbert get Castle and associated with truck. Yeah, 536 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,880 Speaker 3: that's all Yacount. Now it's called Paramount is the parent 537 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:52,440 Speaker 3: company to everybody from BT to MTV, v H one, CBS. 538 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,879 Speaker 3: They own all of that ship and they just sold 539 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 3: it to a company called sky. 540 00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 1: Dance and and Swim Overseas. Yeah. And then the. 541 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 3: President Trump had for when such a big, you know, 542 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 3: business transaction goes over, he got to make sure he 543 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,360 Speaker 3: got to sign off on it because it's too many 544 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 3: billions going and so they have been waiting and that's 545 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 3: why they we see all people talking that shit. So 546 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 3: obviously my little old company, my brand is in the 547 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 3: midst of that. So we kind of been sitting back chilling. 548 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 3: But we had so many episodes and the tours and shit, 549 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 3: niggas has still been able to eat. But everybody, like 550 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 3: I said, the heads and BT, MTV, everybody just been 551 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 3: sitting waiting for this deal to go through so niggas 552 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,239 Speaker 3: could get back to work. So were back at it now. 553 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,160 Speaker 3: The shit went through, so now we're about to start 554 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 3: doing new episode see me. 555 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,399 Speaker 2: I thank you for what you're doing, your contribution with 556 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 2: wilding out everything you give to the game, but especially 557 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,920 Speaker 2: wilding out on the platform like MTV, b T. You know, 558 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 2: on the Paramount there is no music shows anymore. 559 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 1: Bro. 560 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 3: That was the only spot for us to perform the 561 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:03,440 Speaker 3: from Yeah, from Yay to little all of every everybody 562 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 3: came through because it was like us in one O 563 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 3: six in part at the time when it was going. 564 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: Out last of them all d T jams is about 565 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: to be gone. 566 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 3: To your point, that's all into that care amount deal 567 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 3: like all of that, and that's the thing I mean 568 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 3: not even just act like it's that. Let's keep it 569 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 3: a stack. The platform is changing. This is where we're at. Yes, 570 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 3: So don't nobody. These kids don't watch TV no more so, 571 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 3: they're not making money. Channels is gone. 572 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 2: They get watching wild enough. You give them something to watch. 573 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 2: They're watching because I'm telling you my daughter in the 574 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 2: crib watching. 575 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 1: Bluey every day. 576 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 3: They're getting money. 577 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 1: You give them something to watch, they're gonna watch it. 578 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 3: It's just and it's just a shift. It's just a 579 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 3: paradown like and. 580 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 2: Any new blood new exactly, new eyes, new new brain, 581 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 2: new thinkers man, because it's just been the same show 582 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 2: as recycled with new actors actress all day. 583 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 3: And that's like one of the things that's the reason 584 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 3: why Wilding Out is so successful. I mean like we 585 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 3: had Coss and that on there three years ago, you 586 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 3: know what I mean, we had when when King Batch 587 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 3: is popping off with the bonds. Let we got cast 588 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 3: DCL flyers get it we see and. 589 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 1: That shout out d C. Young he came a long 590 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 1: way doing he went. 591 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 3: We spound them making videos with its fall to host 592 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 3: the TRL. 593 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 2: You know it's a guy definitely seeing per solid and 594 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 2: see where he going with super Solid. 595 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 1: I appreciate guys like. 596 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 2: That because even in the the comedian space is even 597 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 2: it's even dying. 598 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 1: Too many good comedians. 599 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 3: Real And now that's what I was saying, like, when 600 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 3: you can have a show like Wilding Out to be 601 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 3: that pipeline of that conduit in that bridge to one 602 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:03,719 Speaker 3: general to others. So even as we watched the television 603 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 3: industry deteriorate, we're seeing the digital industry build up. And 604 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 3: even me like I got six seven five cast that work, 605 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 3: you know, just and and that's in that sense because 606 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 3: that's where the game is going, like and you gotta 607 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 3: be able to just adapt evolved, bobbing weave and all 608 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 3: that ship because if you just sit around, if I 609 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 3: would have got comfortable, I could have I could have 610 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 3: got comfortable on America's got talent, I gotta got caught 611 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 3: on Mass SINGERA got comfortable like I can't get comfortable. 612 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 2: That's that's going That's the grinding that I love about 613 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 2: how we came up. 614 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 1: There's no there's no ceiling, man, there's no limit. 615 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 2: It's like they didn't say, Yo, get this much money 616 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 2: and stop, like I said, get all the money until 617 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 2: they close the bankers one us. Listen, there's no more 618 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 2: money in the fifty we stopped renting it. Yes, that's 619 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,040 Speaker 2: when you stop, you know what I mean? So you 620 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 2: do all that being said, you know, the kids, the legacy, everything, 621 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 2: how you feel about what you're leaving in the world, 622 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 2: the mark you leaving, what you want your like your 623 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 2: kids to know about Nick briand the hustler, the man, 624 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 2: the businessman, the entrepreneur that you are. 625 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 3: I think that it's gonna speak for ourself, but you 626 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 3: tapped right into it. And it's when creating a legacy, 627 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 3: I say, it's lineage and legacy, your children, your family, 628 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 3: that's your lineage, you know what I mean. And your 629 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 3: legacy is what y'all build together. You know what I mean, 630 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,479 Speaker 3: some real shit like your legacy. Like if it's if 631 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 3: it's the bodega on the corner and that's your family, shit, 632 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 3: that's your legacy, right, you know what I mean. If 633 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 3: it's the if it's the music y'all creat, if it's 634 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 3: the entertainment that you build up. So even as my family, 635 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 3: the vision that I have for my children, you know 636 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 3: what I mean, I'm like, Oh yeah, y'all got it. 637 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 3: It's gone, you know what I mean, even sitting here 638 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 3: talking about your young daughter and the content and all 639 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 3: of that, like that's that's our legacy in that sense, 640 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 3: and not not them as the legacy, but what they're 641 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 3: going to do. And that's how like to me as 642 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 3: a father, man was like, oh, I'm about to set 643 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 3: up a whole bunch of little soldiers to go run 644 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 3: and get it. It's a bunch of young knicks. That's 645 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 3: about they're getting in your busy. 646 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 1: It's just right, man. 647 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 2: So yo, one thing I did ask too. They're still 648 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:23,959 Speaker 2: working on the Nipsey Ust documentary. 649 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's man, that's such a passion project and 650 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 3: I mean kind of invested so much money in time 651 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 3: into it, and it's it shows you that this game 652 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 3: not even was it's spiritual warfare. I'm gonna go a 653 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 3: step deeper because there's so many companies that we set with. 654 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 3: I mean, because we put the trailer out, we was 655 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 3: ready to go, we got all the footage, but it 656 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 3: takes and it's really a lot of it is the 657 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 3: post process of like clearance, people signing off family members 658 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 3: once it gets into that attorney world. And then not 659 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 3: to say that it can't have Its just a long 660 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 3: it's just a long process, especially when you start dealing 661 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 3: with stuff like big pharma, you know what I mean. Yeah, 662 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 3: Like you start it's like when you're dealing with corporations 663 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 3: at such a high level, when you start talking about 664 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 3: like holistic medicine and healing one, you don't want to 665 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 3: lie to nobody, true, you want to only offer up 666 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,239 Speaker 3: the truth, and so you want to make sure your 667 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 3: fact check game is is crazy. And then when you 668 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 3: start talking about people that can cheer or heal you 669 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 3: know conditions like AIDS and HIV, SIPHLIS and you know 670 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 3: sickle cell and like that's that's what this country, that's 671 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 3: what this world is built off of, is keeping them 672 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 3: coming back on that medicine run. So not only are 673 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 3: they going to be people trying to prevent you from 674 00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 3: putting certain information out there, there's also going be people 675 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 3: that's gonna be like, man, that's bullshit, conspiracy stuff, and 676 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 3: you want to be able to the only way to 677 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 3: appease all of that is with the truth and the 678 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 3: accurate stuff like this is what actually happened, And that's 679 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 3: even what Nip was on. He was like he was 680 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 3: like regardless if this is a man who went up 681 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 3: against the New York you know, whole government was on 682 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 3: trial in New York, the New York Supreme Court at 683 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:34,719 Speaker 3: that level, and won, you know what I mean. So 684 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 3: just that story alone, and then all of the stuff 685 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 3: from how Nip and I's story got connected because he 686 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:47,439 Speaker 3: was talking to me about doctor Sadan because my own 687 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 3: health situation with the loopis so we're touching on that. 688 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 3: And then at the same time, I'll be having to 689 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 3: do updates stuff because we started that documentary before the pandemic, 690 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,160 Speaker 3: so we had to do all of that research and 691 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,719 Speaker 3: everything with COVID and switched this out and then by 692 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 3: the time we still got it. I mean, and I 693 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 3: believe it's gonna come out, but it's like now it's like, 694 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 3: which story do we tell? Even the story of this documentary, 695 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,240 Speaker 3: Like we don't went to Hondurs, we don't went to Africa. 696 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 3: We went everywhere, and making sure we're paying respect to 697 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 3: all of the families as well, because like doctor Savior, 698 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 3: if people say I must have got it here, that 699 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:32,479 Speaker 3: think I got a lot of kids, like thirty maybe 700 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:36,760 Speaker 3: more than that. And we was talking and interviewing everybody 701 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:38,879 Speaker 3: and all of them had such amazing things to say 702 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 3: about their father, you know what I mean. And so 703 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 3: even in that process and making sure that business is 704 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 3: right and who's doing it and you know, even it 705 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 3: you know, with Niche legacy, never wanted to play with that, 706 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,919 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, like just wanting to pay 707 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,800 Speaker 3: respects to my homeboy and finish something that he wanted 708 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:59,799 Speaker 3: to do. He had never actually started the documentary because 709 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 3: he was even in the place he was like, Man, 710 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 3: I'm on this rap shit, I don't really know you're not. 711 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 3: At the time, he was like, I don't know how 712 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:07,360 Speaker 3: this film and television shit work. I was like, I 713 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 3: got you let's you know. And then from that, because 714 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 3: I got a production company because I know how to 715 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 3: do this shit, I was like, I'm gonna just take 716 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 3: it and run with it. But definitely one of the 717 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:20,400 Speaker 3: most challenging difficult projects I've ever you know, taken on. 718 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 3: So and it's coming. I ain't gonna stop until I 719 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:23,759 Speaker 3: can put it out. 720 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 1: And that natural remedy stuff. That shit is one hundred 721 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:27,319 Speaker 1: percent fact. 722 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,239 Speaker 3: And now you know what, it was crazy though, because 723 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 3: me talking, it's one hundred percent fast. Because the earth 724 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:36,800 Speaker 3: is the Earth. Yes, got like before me, and the 725 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 3: way our all doctor Sab was talking about is like 726 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:44,040 Speaker 3: it's designed, like the food is our medicine. It's color coded. 727 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:48,520 Speaker 3: It's right there for you, especially for us, because our diet, 728 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:52,760 Speaker 3: our balance is different than you know, the Anglo Saxon 729 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:56,360 Speaker 3: or the americanized that. And then they let you know 730 00:36:56,440 --> 00:37:00,080 Speaker 3: that they say ninety five percent of the stuff in 731 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,799 Speaker 3: the grocery source today never existed a hundred years ago. 732 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 1: That's right, you know what I mean. 733 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 3: So, like the stuff that we put in our body 734 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 3: ain't even food, it's all plastic. And then and then 735 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 3: we're wondering where the cancers come from. We're wondering where 736 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 3: all these conditions come from. Were wondering where our child's diagnosed, 737 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 3: where autism are coming from, because it's like it's the 738 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 3: stuff feeding that not even stuff we feeding to the kids, 739 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 3: and stuff we putting in our body, and then they 740 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,520 Speaker 3: the kids just naturally getting it, you know what I mean. 741 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:31,360 Speaker 3: So and so when you start talking about that, you 742 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,320 Speaker 3: start talking to a certain doctor. Man, there was so 743 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,360 Speaker 3: many doctors that was like, yo, I'll give you the information, 744 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:41,480 Speaker 3: but I can't do the interview because they lose their 745 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:45,200 Speaker 3: license or their life like you said at that, like, yo, bro, Like. 746 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,439 Speaker 2: The two most important things to me is the food 747 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:49,839 Speaker 2: you eat and the doctor. The doctor you have, that's 748 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 2: the tru most support that in your life. Money means nothing. 749 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:57,759 Speaker 2: It's well, that's right, it's fool and your doctor and 750 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,719 Speaker 2: number one doctors always say life. You know, when I 751 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:02,719 Speaker 2: was younger going to the dice and telling them, you, 752 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 2: I suffered from high blood pressure and so it runs 753 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:06,120 Speaker 2: in my family. 754 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 1: The first thing they used to be like, was give 755 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:08,760 Speaker 1: you these pills. 756 00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:09,440 Speaker 3: It was. 757 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:12,759 Speaker 2: It wasn't until I met this nurse she was like, yo, nah, 758 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,279 Speaker 2: then just eat break food every day. 759 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 1: Wow, need no pills. No, I don't have no hot. 760 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 3: Exactly you know what I mean. And the same shit 761 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 3: I had a similar shit. They told me I was 762 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:24,719 Speaker 3: gonna be on blood pressure medicine but the rest of 763 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 3: my life because of the loopish shit. I was like, 764 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,239 Speaker 3: I ain't fucking with that, like you know what I mean, 765 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 3: Like I'm taking the same medicine my ninety nine year 766 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:36,480 Speaker 3: old great grandmother got to take. And then same thing 767 00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 3: got with some wild people that were just like, yo, 768 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,319 Speaker 3: if you eat this, this removed this from your die. 769 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:44,880 Speaker 3: I took. I had to take that pill in almost 770 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,920 Speaker 3: ten years. Sure, And they was like they scare you, 771 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 3: like usually take it, take take you off of it, 772 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,239 Speaker 3: You're gonna start to have seizures and all that type 773 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,480 Speaker 3: of stuff. And I was like, nah, I cut all 774 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,600 Speaker 3: that shit. And like, realistically, I used to when I 775 00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,279 Speaker 3: first got diagnosed with a little in twenty twelve, I 776 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,800 Speaker 3: was taking thirty something pills a day. Way just this 777 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:08,399 Speaker 3: one happened, this one and this one and this one that. Yeah, 778 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:13,080 Speaker 3: and to they don't take ship, that's crazy, that's a blessing. 779 00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,239 Speaker 3: And that's really from the practice and learn it, you 780 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 3: know what I mean. Like and and not to knock 781 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 3: who met, but because yeah, I wouldn't be helped you 782 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:26,160 Speaker 3: stay alive take that ship, right it was. It's been 783 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:27,920 Speaker 3: an up and down journey for me because I'm like, 784 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 3: I ain't gonna take that ship, like I need that, 785 00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. You Like, I gotta go 786 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,800 Speaker 3: into the you know, shoot, I just got over pneumonia 787 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 3: and when some shit hit me, it get different because 788 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,600 Speaker 3: of the loop and shit. So I went down down, 789 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:42,879 Speaker 3: and so I gotta go get infusions and all that shit. 790 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:48,160 Speaker 3: So I'm not saying dope, I just I'm gonna do both. 791 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,120 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I'm gonna do the holistic shit. 792 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:53,120 Speaker 3: I'm gonna take everything if it's gonna help me stay alive. 793 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:56,080 Speaker 3: I'm gonna try that ship out. And so even through 794 00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,520 Speaker 3: that process, you know, luckily I can be in a 795 00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:00,440 Speaker 3: state right now where I don't I have to take 796 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,840 Speaker 3: pills every day, because that was it was three or 797 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,000 Speaker 3: four times a day. I gotta take this pill, make 798 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,319 Speaker 3: sure I'm doing this so I know what that life 799 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,120 Speaker 3: is like. In fact, if all I got to do 800 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,040 Speaker 3: is shift my diet and remove certain things and put 801 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:13,680 Speaker 3: more of this in there, and I don't have to 802 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:15,800 Speaker 3: take this medicine, I'm lost. 803 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,440 Speaker 1: Straight straight, That's what it is. That what it's all about. 804 00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:25,800 Speaker 1: Die straight up out of everything in the game that 805 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:29,040 Speaker 1: you did. What you feel is your biggest contribution to 806 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:29,760 Speaker 1: the game. 807 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 3: So far, definitely, and even how you measure it before 808 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 3: the culture definitely wilding out, you know what I mean, 809 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:40,320 Speaker 3: because of what it worked, Because it's an ecosystem, you 810 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,160 Speaker 3: know what I mean. I watched so many people become 811 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:46,080 Speaker 3: millionaires that started off were like, yo, I just want 812 00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:47,680 Speaker 3: to get on. Just let me, you know what I mean. 813 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:52,640 Speaker 3: It's almost like I consider wilding out like a comedy club, 814 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:54,840 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like everybody got like the 815 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,960 Speaker 3: Hood comedy spot where the first time you saw Martin 816 00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 3: on stage or the first time you saw you know, 817 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:05,040 Speaker 3: Chris Rock on stage. Like that's what like, it's just 818 00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,320 Speaker 3: a wilding out comedy club and all of the cats. 819 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 3: If you can make it on this stage, you can 820 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,360 Speaker 3: make it anywhere in the game. I think Cat Williams 821 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,280 Speaker 3: said he saw wilding out as like the community pool 822 00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,359 Speaker 3: with the diving boarders, Like niggas just be sitting there, 823 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,640 Speaker 3: like he told his old things, like you go step 824 00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,400 Speaker 3: up all that diving boarder for all of these real swimmers. 825 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,600 Speaker 3: Don't do some ship you ask for. We're gonna make 826 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:28,400 Speaker 3: fun of right, That's right. 827 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,480 Speaker 1: You better stay away from what now, he said. 828 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,359 Speaker 3: It's some things that get up on that diving board 829 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,960 Speaker 3: to start doing all type of flips this business like 830 00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:40,400 Speaker 3: he out of here. That's right, he got here. And 831 00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:41,719 Speaker 3: that's exactly what it is. 832 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:46,680 Speaker 1: When you see media like black media shifting doing next. 833 00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:48,560 Speaker 3: I mean, we're in it. I mean what you're doing 834 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:52,160 Speaker 3: right now, you know, like it's crazy, like niggas don't 835 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:56,400 Speaker 3: it's levels to it. But niggas don't really understand what 836 00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:00,960 Speaker 3: the bag ability right here. 837 00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,080 Speaker 1: I don't. I'm just getting in there and they can 838 00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:05,080 Speaker 1: pull my finger. 839 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,520 Speaker 3: It's the level when you get it right when you 840 00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:13,680 Speaker 3: go talk to the cat that it's cat's making hundreds 841 00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:17,319 Speaker 3: of millions of dollars and it's coming directly to them. 842 00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 3: And even to that point, I mean not like I'm 843 00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:24,000 Speaker 3: trying to you on like this level of a telity 844 00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:28,080 Speaker 3: secrets of the game, because it's obvious. But the kids 845 00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:32,120 Speaker 3: is where it's at. Yeah, the family content is where 846 00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:33,880 Speaker 3: they're like, we set up here and talk ship all that. 847 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:40,440 Speaker 3: Everything we say here is being regulated and monitored, and 848 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:42,880 Speaker 3: there's nothing wrong with that. It's a free form to 849 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,680 Speaker 3: talk your ship. We love it. But if you want 850 00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,800 Speaker 3: to make some money, you make that content that everybody 851 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:50,919 Speaker 3: get because at the end of the day, these platforms, 852 00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,080 Speaker 3: as much as we think it's about the content, it's 853 00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:57,080 Speaker 3: an advertising business. This and the advertisers have shifted from 854 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,919 Speaker 3: television and like and they spend all of their money 855 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:04,719 Speaker 3: where the eyeballs are and where they can actually have 856 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:10,200 Speaker 3: the ability to really understand the analytics of the money 857 00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:13,759 Speaker 3: that they're spending. It's a safe bet and the safest bet, 858 00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,800 Speaker 3: the safest content is family content. So that to me 859 00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,200 Speaker 3: just figuring out like you can create and make your 860 00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:23,680 Speaker 3: own bet with your own family. And it's really people 861 00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:27,399 Speaker 3: at that level that's provide for their family, just making 862 00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,640 Speaker 3: videos with their kids, making millions. 863 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,200 Speaker 1: Trust me, I'm telling you, she's seeing it. 864 00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,520 Speaker 3: Gangs, because that's the people. We are spending most time, 865 00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,880 Speaker 3: them kids with them iPads, they phone. She watching all 866 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,960 Speaker 3: them little kids. We're consuming more content now than ever 867 00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:46,480 Speaker 3: before in history because we don't put the phone down. 868 00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:49,200 Speaker 3: Everything is through the phone. Even the news comes in 869 00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:51,959 Speaker 3: the fun I learned what happens. 870 00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,359 Speaker 2: In the world on Twitter before they're actually talking about 871 00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:55,879 Speaker 2: it on television all the way. 872 00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,080 Speaker 1: It's insane how it goes that way now. 873 00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,120 Speaker 3: So that's what if I had to see it, like 874 00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:06,800 Speaker 3: it's gonna We're empowering the next generation and content. That's 875 00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:08,960 Speaker 3: the thing. Even I feel like fame is gonna go away. 876 00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:12,480 Speaker 3: It's crazy, like I think, what it's gonna go away 877 00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,879 Speaker 3: because everybody's gonna be famous. Andy Warmer said that shit 878 00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:16,799 Speaker 3: back in the day. Said in the future, everybody's gonna 879 00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:20,160 Speaker 3: be famous for fifteen minutes. And it's gonna be more 880 00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,320 Speaker 3: about and we already witnessing it. It's almost like what 881 00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,320 Speaker 3: people would do, and it really is the core of 882 00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:30,480 Speaker 3: cloud chasing is what it's attention. You know what I said. 883 00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,239 Speaker 3: Attention is the new crack, yo, Like everybody just want 884 00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:34,360 Speaker 3: that one hit. 885 00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,200 Speaker 4: And then some of them get it and don't know 886 00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:38,400 Speaker 4: what to do it and get addicted and it literally 887 00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:42,560 Speaker 4: they tell your family will sell everything just for that attention, 888 00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,640 Speaker 4: you know, And it's like, so that's the bad side 889 00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:47,319 Speaker 4: of where it's going. 890 00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:48,840 Speaker 3: But the good side is if you know how to 891 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:53,799 Speaker 3: control it. You know, that balances. It's literally people are 892 00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:57,080 Speaker 3: sitting around watching people stream twenty four hours a day 893 00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:00,520 Speaker 3: and they make it bread just I'm mad. 894 00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:04,080 Speaker 2: I'm I'm mad. I didn't paying attention when my son 895 00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:08,800 Speaker 2: was younger. My son used to watch YouTube people playing 896 00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:11,520 Speaker 2: the game and that's be like, yo, why did you 897 00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,680 Speaker 2: just go playing the game? How you want to watch 898 00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:16,919 Speaker 2: him playing the game that I that you just told 899 00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:18,640 Speaker 2: me by I just ain't all the. 900 00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:22,080 Speaker 3: Money, Yeah, but I didn't understand this is with an experience, 901 00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:25,440 Speaker 3: the communial experience of that of like, oh, I'm learning 902 00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:28,239 Speaker 3: from him. I feel like he's my friend because I'm 903 00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:31,319 Speaker 3: he playing in his room. I'm in my room watching him. 904 00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,840 Speaker 3: And now they be talking and watching this person and playing, 905 00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,600 Speaker 3: and it's like it's a whole different level, you know, 906 00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,239 Speaker 3: like you know, my oldest is fourteen, and he he 907 00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:41,719 Speaker 3: on it. You know what I mean. 908 00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:45,600 Speaker 2: Let's say fourteen, I say that I'm gonna keep it 909 00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:48,200 Speaker 2: all the way red. You got about a good three 910 00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:52,200 Speaker 2: more years. So he gonna be like, Pop, you, I'm 911 00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:58,040 Speaker 2: I'm outside, ain't you he always already here. 912 00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:01,600 Speaker 3: It's like it's dark because they twin Monroe. She with me. 913 00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:03,800 Speaker 3: She want to lock in whatever, Yo, my son, Like, 914 00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:04,640 Speaker 3: I ain't want that. 915 00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:06,400 Speaker 1: Yo, my son in twenty two. 916 00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,200 Speaker 2: Now he ain't checking for Pops because Pop's got the 917 00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:13,680 Speaker 2: check that the pall something drip Pops. 918 00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,000 Speaker 3: What to ask? 919 00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:16,239 Speaker 1: Now? 920 00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,239 Speaker 3: He was like, yo, I ran there just letting, you know, 921 00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:20,359 Speaker 3: because I don't want them to cut the car off. 922 00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,640 Speaker 3: It to your front, you know, the whole yay. She 923 00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,480 Speaker 3: was like, I'm gonna tell you you're gonna cut me off. 924 00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:29,359 Speaker 1: It's right, gonna be like, whoo'spent twelve hundred or something? 925 00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,640 Speaker 3: What that wasn't me exactly? 926 00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:33,880 Speaker 1: That's a flat. These kids is crazy. 927 00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,600 Speaker 3: I ain't even give you my card number. How you 928 00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:37,319 Speaker 3: get in there? 929 00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,960 Speaker 1: You know one thing I never asked you, bro, what 930 00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:43,600 Speaker 1: part where are you from? What part of the sittings? 931 00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:47,400 Speaker 3: You know, it's crazy. Everybody always asked me that I 932 00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:49,640 Speaker 3: was born in San Diego, California. 933 00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,760 Speaker 1: Yo, how the hell you ended up in New York. 934 00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:55,680 Speaker 3: Being young, hustling? 935 00:46:56,360 --> 00:47:00,239 Speaker 1: I love you outside, I love it, said my I'm 936 00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:00,960 Speaker 1: catching the flight. 937 00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:04,960 Speaker 3: Literally, I was in New York fifteen, sixteen years old. 938 00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:08,160 Speaker 1: Yes, because we was moving around. I was fifteen. We 939 00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,360 Speaker 1: was moving around together. That's why I always thought you 940 00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:11,319 Speaker 1: was from New York. 941 00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:11,600 Speaker 3: Now. 942 00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:13,080 Speaker 1: And then I said to my wife, she was like, 943 00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:14,480 Speaker 1: I don't think it's from New York. 944 00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,120 Speaker 3: But like when I was out there, all of them, 945 00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:20,080 Speaker 3: you know what that means. You know, I was moving 946 00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:23,160 Speaker 3: around real heavy at the time. God rest his soul 947 00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:26,319 Speaker 3: with Chris Lighty. Oh, yes, so that's how that's who 948 00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:31,560 Speaker 3: was really even like show me, yeah, like that's who 949 00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,880 Speaker 3: introduced me to everybody because I was a kid and 950 00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:38,480 Speaker 3: he had violator, you know, and that you know, I'm 951 00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:43,839 Speaker 3: sixteen years old with the with the black a rex, right, 952 00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,360 Speaker 3: I mean, like, and I'm just why I'm in the 953 00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:48,839 Speaker 3: tunnel you know what I mean. Chris is the first 954 00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,080 Speaker 3: person to take me to the tunnel with flex and like, 955 00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,919 Speaker 3: who fuck is this kid in here? And I'm I'm 956 00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:57,320 Speaker 3: seeing how y'all move? I'm like, yo, she was different, 957 00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:03,799 Speaker 3: ninety seven type of friend. Yeah, and that and that's 958 00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:05,640 Speaker 3: when I feel like I had got accepted before I 959 00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:07,839 Speaker 3: even got down with them. I was just a young 960 00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:10,640 Speaker 3: kid trying to entertain. And it's funny because I see 961 00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,239 Speaker 3: these young kids doing I see kids doing the same 962 00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,799 Speaker 3: thing that I was doing, like that, Pops are bringing 963 00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:17,839 Speaker 3: them up to yo. He could spit, he could rhyme yo. 964 00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,439 Speaker 3: He And I'm like, I was that same little kid 965 00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:23,600 Speaker 3: that just was like yo. And people looked out for me, 966 00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:27,719 Speaker 3: people respected because it could have went way left because 967 00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:31,319 Speaker 3: I was literally a kid outside by myself, catching flights. 968 00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,480 Speaker 1: Moving around on the train crazy. 969 00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:36,839 Speaker 3: And like God covered me, man, because like I could 970 00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:40,360 Speaker 3: have and I see some ill shit, but like I 971 00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:42,440 Speaker 3: was always able to move, and people like, na, that's 972 00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:44,560 Speaker 3: a good kid. He gonna do his thing. 973 00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,879 Speaker 2: Once you got that that that path set for you, man, 974 00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:51,480 Speaker 2: it's only you can deter yourself from it. Like me 975 00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:54,920 Speaker 2: watching you, I always felt like you were the younger, 976 00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:56,040 Speaker 2: Will Smith. 977 00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:57,360 Speaker 3: Said, and that's what it was. And even at some 978 00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:00,239 Speaker 3: point in time, like Will said, Will gave me my 979 00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:03,960 Speaker 3: first official record deal and my first official television dick 980 00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:06,160 Speaker 3: and for me in my first movie Been in Black 981 00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:13,000 Speaker 3: two oh yeah yeah, and amazing too because everybody was 982 00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,200 Speaker 3: auditioning for drum line. When it was down to me 983 00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:16,960 Speaker 3: and one other cat. He made the call to the 984 00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,359 Speaker 3: head of the Fox because he had just did Independence Day. 985 00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:22,760 Speaker 3: It was like, Yo, this is the kid, so shouts 986 00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:24,440 Speaker 3: out the big Will. He looked out for me on 987 00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:27,920 Speaker 3: so many levels. I wrote a script when I was 988 00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,440 Speaker 3: like seventeen for my own TV show. He bought it, 989 00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:34,600 Speaker 3: signed me up all that shit. And that's that's actually 990 00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:38,440 Speaker 3: how I met Tone from the track matches well yeah yeah, 991 00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:43,319 Speaker 3: being in a session, way crazy right now, big bro. 992 00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:50,280 Speaker 2: Crazy right there styling on cosmic cat he outside ax. 993 00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:55,239 Speaker 1: Yo, he got that. You do what the you want 994 00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,760 Speaker 1: to do, that's what you do. That's what music is about. 995 00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:01,600 Speaker 3: Here is about having fun and express And he's reached 996 00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:02,920 Speaker 3: such a level that you. 997 00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:05,719 Speaker 1: Do whatever you want to do. Man, will you do 998 00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:07,640 Speaker 1: your thing? Cause he got the bag? 999 00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:11,399 Speaker 3: Whatever this I want to ask you this question being 1000 00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:17,359 Speaker 3: the fact that you always maintain being who you are, 1001 00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:21,360 Speaker 3: stand true, being solid, being connected to the streets. But 1002 00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:29,120 Speaker 3: have witnessed his ship that is unfathomable levels of success 1003 00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:34,520 Speaker 3: and money. How does one stay so connected? Because that's 1004 00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:36,960 Speaker 3: what like even when I you know, I love Will, 1005 00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:42,239 Speaker 3: but he not connected the way he once was to us, 1006 00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:45,680 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, like cause and it's not 1007 00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:48,320 Speaker 3: it's just because you get to such a you create 1008 00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:52,799 Speaker 3: your own world, like J and B have created their 1009 00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:55,920 Speaker 3: own world, Like Mariah that's her own world. Like that's 1010 00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:58,400 Speaker 3: that's that's the closest I ever got to somebody who 1011 00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:02,640 Speaker 3: has their own world, like not not like Yo, you 1012 00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:04,400 Speaker 3: got your own money, Yo, you get to it, like 1013 00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:07,200 Speaker 3: you can make it if you want it to rain, 1014 00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:12,200 Speaker 3: it can rain if you want to go, if you 1015 00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:14,200 Speaker 3: want to see a movie that ain't out yet, you 1016 00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:17,719 Speaker 3: can bring that ship back, you know what I mean? 1017 00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:21,080 Speaker 3: Like where it's that level of like it ain't even 1018 00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:23,759 Speaker 3: about the amount of money. It's you just got your 1019 00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:26,160 Speaker 3: own world. You could be on a villa and not 1020 00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:31,520 Speaker 3: talk to nobody for months. So but everybody else got 1021 00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:34,680 Speaker 3: to operate in the same world. That is the everyday 1022 00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:39,880 Speaker 3: grind and struggles. How does one maintain to be like Yo, 1023 00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:43,120 Speaker 3: I can still pull up on the block if I 1024 00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:46,759 Speaker 3: want to. But then at the same time, I see 1025 00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:50,279 Speaker 3: what's going on in that executive suite. And because like 1026 00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:54,280 Speaker 3: cats like you are the conduit of like keeping people 1027 00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:57,239 Speaker 3: of like Yo, you know they're saying this. You know 1028 00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:00,160 Speaker 3: this is happening, you might want to adjust like this 1029 00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:03,280 Speaker 3: because you can live in both faces. 1030 00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:07,040 Speaker 2: I feel like it's the number one rule where they say, 1031 00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:10,720 Speaker 2: never forget where you come from. I'm always still gonna 1032 00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:14,120 Speaker 2: be attached to my roots, like no matter what, like 1033 00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:15,600 Speaker 2: what we call it the. 1034 00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:17,920 Speaker 1: Hood newspaper, I canna be amalleable. 1035 00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:21,120 Speaker 2: I'm still subscribed to the nest for some reason, it's 1036 00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:23,000 Speaker 2: gonna come through my phone and like yo, such and 1037 00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:27,719 Speaker 2: such just such happened to this. So I feel like 1038 00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:32,560 Speaker 2: it's the company I kept and the family that I 1039 00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:35,880 Speaker 2: built with my brothers that kid me grounded. 1040 00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:41,120 Speaker 1: And I believe that's why guys like me, Emrie, Tatie. 1041 00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:44,400 Speaker 2: And she Wants we are those guys for Jay, because 1042 00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:47,799 Speaker 2: you know, everybody in their life get to a point 1043 00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:49,440 Speaker 2: where you're up here and you. 1044 00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:52,040 Speaker 3: Can't even hear, You ain't frequency, you can't even hear 1045 00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:55,200 Speaker 3: what's no, but you need that person that can still 1046 00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:58,520 Speaker 3: tell you, hey, God, take the cape off, get back. 1047 00:52:58,400 --> 00:52:59,120 Speaker 1: Down here to earth. 1048 00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:01,399 Speaker 3: Put the clock kench big fact. 1049 00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:01,920 Speaker 1: You know so. 1050 00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:08,759 Speaker 2: And I think that's what kept me grounded. And I 1051 00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:14,239 Speaker 2: didn't really work for this position. I felt like I 1052 00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:16,360 Speaker 2: wrapped to be known in high school. 1053 00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:18,160 Speaker 1: Girl, you know what I'm saying. 1054 00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:21,280 Speaker 2: I didn't know you can be all over the world 1055 00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,920 Speaker 2: like this. So when I seen Jane, remember that's just 1056 00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:25,080 Speaker 2: my guy from my building. 1057 00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:27,160 Speaker 1: Like your dog I raped. I want to rap with you. 1058 00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:29,800 Speaker 1: He like, let me hear something, and he like that 1059 00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:33,040 Speaker 1: cool you with me now. So it was just that easy. 1060 00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:37,080 Speaker 2: So I never wanted to feel like I gotta turn 1061 00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:39,479 Speaker 2: my back or put my shoulder, like even when people 1062 00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:41,160 Speaker 2: see me, be like, yot me get a picture. I 1063 00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:44,080 Speaker 2: take a picture for everything everybody, because it's like the 1064 00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:47,000 Speaker 2: ones I understand. The guys will be like, nah, no time, 1065 00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:49,880 Speaker 2: because they had all time. They got their demo tapes 1066 00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:52,040 Speaker 2: tossed out, had the wait in the rain, or. 1067 00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:54,120 Speaker 3: And it ain't even like they tried to issue. It's 1068 00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:56,520 Speaker 3: like they just on a different free and it's like 1069 00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:00,400 Speaker 3: I'm going this way. I'm just so appreciate that I 1070 00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:02,520 Speaker 3: felt like I ain't supposed to be here. 1071 00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:05,320 Speaker 1: You don't even know who I am. Yeah, take this picture. 1072 00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:09,120 Speaker 1: I don't run from paparazzi. They run from me because 1073 00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:11,680 Speaker 1: piparazzi wanted to take the pictures of the people. 1074 00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:14,280 Speaker 3: Who run it. I'm like, hey, I'm telling. 1075 00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:24,799 Speaker 1: He liked us. So that's what I think keeps me here. 1076 00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:28,200 Speaker 2: And then the honesty, just and you said, being honest, 1077 00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:29,759 Speaker 2: telling the truth, speaking your truth. 1078 00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:33,160 Speaker 1: People could see and can tell when you fraud. 1079 00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:37,719 Speaker 3: Because but like y'all are talk about legacy, I mean, 1080 00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:39,920 Speaker 3: like you an icon. 1081 00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:40,520 Speaker 1: For the culture. 1082 00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:44,040 Speaker 3: Ship you know what I mean? Like, wh when you 1083 00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:47,600 Speaker 3: think about the first tell me when niggas heard you 1084 00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:50,160 Speaker 3: and spitting back and forth like it was a movie, 1085 00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:53,600 Speaker 3: Like we never saw the music video, but we can 1086 00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:55,880 Speaker 3: hear like y'all was making a movie. Y'all made Marcy 1087 00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:58,400 Speaker 3: feel like, oh ship, it was good feelings. 1088 00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:01,960 Speaker 1: Bro. They have toys that go Marsa like then come 1089 00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:02,840 Speaker 1: to our building. 1090 00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:07,200 Speaker 2: They leave the city forty second Street, come ship after 1091 00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:09,239 Speaker 2: white girls in front of the bossy. 1092 00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,880 Speaker 1: Side like this, I be bugging like, yo, it's a 1093 00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:14,120 Speaker 1: tour to see the projects. 1094 00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:17,640 Speaker 3: That's who you know, that's how you level ship. 1095 00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:19,440 Speaker 1: You know it's different, and you know what I mean, 1096 00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:23,040 Speaker 1: that's that's how level about you. That's what you are. Man. 1097 00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:25,919 Speaker 2: When that like when I told my dogs, like even 1098 00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:28,960 Speaker 2: after the Breakfast Club interview and I'm telling niggas, they like, yo, you. 1099 00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:31,440 Speaker 1: Really know nigga, I'm like, yeah, they like nigga. That's 1100 00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:34,319 Speaker 1: fucking Will Smith to us. Why you ain't never getting 1101 00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:37,439 Speaker 1: no movie that I don't know how to act. 1102 00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:40,919 Speaker 2: You see me a state dropperty they killed me quick 1103 00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:47,960 Speaker 2: word up and you know I ain't even read that 1104 00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:52,239 Speaker 2: script bro. I got on fly like I told them, Yo, 1105 00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:53,840 Speaker 2: whoever the killer is, that's me. 1106 00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:56,719 Speaker 1: They're like that cool. So then when the day when 1107 00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:58,719 Speaker 1: it was time for me to die, I'm like, who 1108 00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:02,040 Speaker 1: wrote that part? We gotta change the scripture to do 1109 00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:03,640 Speaker 1: It's like you never read the sprinklik. 1110 00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:06,400 Speaker 2: I'm like, no, y'all, just give me my lines. Let 1111 00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:12,000 Speaker 2: me damn I go. So it's like, yeah, straight up. 1112 00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:15,640 Speaker 2: I was fissed, like no way. Then I see Norri 1113 00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:17,880 Speaker 2: when they was doing part two. He's like, yo, you 1114 00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:21,600 Speaker 2: in the movie, Nori, this ship saw part one. 1115 00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:24,200 Speaker 1: They killed me. Unless I come back as a zollman, 1116 00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:31,600 Speaker 1: I'm not in part two. They say this ship, But nah, man, 1117 00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:35,480 Speaker 1: I appreciate you everything. Man. Like I said for stopping by. 1118 00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:37,440 Speaker 1: We hit our goddamn time this time. 1119 00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:41,680 Speaker 2: You know what I mean, y'are another thirty word up, nigga, 1120 00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:45,440 Speaker 2: there come, my g I ain't gonna hold you up. 1121 00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:47,600 Speaker 1: You're going to Bota one time. 1122 00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:49,040 Speaker 3: You gonna get this money. 1123 00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:52,000 Speaker 1: That's right, No man, love my brother. 1124 00:56:56,120 --> 00:57:01,320 Speaker 2: For more podcasts from iHeart Radio, visit iHeart Radio, Apple Podcasts, 1125 00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:03,840 Speaker 2: or wherever you listen to your favorite shows at and 1126 00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:07,040 Speaker 2: you can follow me on any social media platform under 1127 00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:08,160 Speaker 2: the name Memphis Bleach. 1128 00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:10,600 Speaker 1: You see anybody fraud and flag him