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Speaker 1: Second dat up date. People always say that you should
Speaker 1: just be yourself on a first date. Absolutely. If you
Speaker 1: feel like you're a little too boring, then you can
Speaker 1: always google how to be somebody else on a date
Speaker 1: and maybe it'll work out in your favor. And that
Speaker 1: sounds like it's what Oscar did. Who's on the phone
Speaker 1: for a second date update? Right now? What's up Oscar? Hey? Guys,
Speaker 1: scold up not much. Your email said that you googled
Speaker 1: how to date or something like that. Can you explain? Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I've found something out from a friend recently that
Speaker 1: I didn't know about myself, and apparently a few of
Speaker 1: my friends, uh feel this way. Um, he said, I'm
Speaker 1: a boring dater. Wait, how would your friend even know?
Speaker 1: Because have you have you been on a date with
Speaker 1: your friend? Oh? Yeah, we've been on double dates and
Speaker 1: things like that. Okay, I mean, how did that feel
Speaker 1: when your friends said that you're boring and that's why
Speaker 1: you're not successful in dating? I mean, at first, I
Speaker 1: didn't believe him. I thought, no, there's no way that's true.
Speaker 1: I think I'm a fun guy. But then after a
Speaker 1: while I kind of took a real look at myself
Speaker 1: and I thought, hey, maybe maybe he's right. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: why would he be friends with you if you're such
Speaker 1: a boring person? A lot of boring person, just boring dater? Yeah,
Speaker 1: the difference. Okay, actually be a good friend. So how
Speaker 1: did you correct being a boring dater? So, I, you know,
Speaker 1: did what everybody does. I googled how to not be
Speaker 1: a boring dater? All right, and did you find out
Speaker 1: any good information? Yeah? So I found this one article
Speaker 1: and it gave me three pretty pretty good tips that
Speaker 1: I wanted to try out. Okay. Number one was be
Speaker 1: a dating anthropologist, which basically just means observe everything and
Speaker 1: be curious, to have an open mind, lie about your
Speaker 1: occupation anthropologist. So observe thing and keep an open mind.
Speaker 1: Did you do that? Yeah, it did. That's a really
Speaker 1: good tip. What else did you do? Well? The second
Speaker 1: thing it said was it's okay to laugh at the
Speaker 1: other person's jokes and stories. So I did that. Did
Speaker 1: you not feel like it was okay before? Like if
Speaker 1: someone says it's being funny, I guess before I would
Speaker 1: have just dominated the conversation a little bit more, not
Speaker 1: paid attention as much to their You can always judge
Speaker 1: their comedy too, Like if they make a bad jokes
Speaker 1: like that wasn't funny, here's why, let me tell you
Speaker 1: how that joke could have been better. You can always
Speaker 1: critique their their material, you know exactly all right? What
Speaker 1: was the third thing that you learned about dating from Google?
Speaker 1: The third thing? I thought this is interesting. It said
Speaker 1: relax and don't be quote fake fun and yeah, it
Speaker 1: was just means don't try too hard. So I guess
Speaker 1: in the past I've always tried a little bit too hard,
Speaker 1: like like saying like we're having a great time, aren't, well,
Speaker 1: this is a great time, it's amazing something along those lines. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: I mean I imagine it sounds like you get pretty nervous,
Speaker 1: so you probably clam up and then try extra hard
Speaker 1: to almost not be yourself, and then it comes off
Speaker 1: boring and weird. I think I think it's something like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So how did it all go when you use these
Speaker 1: tips on your date? It went really well. First we
Speaker 1: went to a bar, and you know, for some pizza
Speaker 1: and drinks. Then she wanted to get tacos, so we
Speaker 1: went to a taco truck instead. And normally I would
Speaker 1: never do that because you know the reputation that taco
Speaker 1: trucks have for being dirty. But you know, I wanted
Speaker 1: to be loose and follow the list. So that's what
Speaker 1: we did. Oh loose and follow the list like that,
Speaker 1: just kind of against each other. But that's cool. Well,
Speaker 1: hopefully the tacos were at least decent. Yeah, they're okay.
Speaker 1: Any other notable things from the date, like how did
Speaker 1: the actual conversation and stuff go? I mean, the conversation
Speaker 1: went well. We we both talked about our work. I
Speaker 1: let her talk a lot about what she does, and
Speaker 1: instead of you know, trying to talk more about myself
Speaker 1: and force things in, I said things like, hmm, that's interesting.
Speaker 1: So I was being the anthropologist And were you actually
Speaker 1: listening sometimes? You know, I mean, you know where she works, right, Like,
Speaker 1: at least you heard that piece what she does for
Speaker 1: a living. I'm pretty sure I heard that. Yeah. And
Speaker 1: on top of that, I laughed at all of her jokes,
Speaker 1: even the ones that weren't funny. So you sound like,
Speaker 1: you're really proud of yourself for this date. I think
Speaker 1: I did a good job. How did how did the
Speaker 1: date end? Well, I mean it didn't end with a kiss,
Speaker 1: if that's what you mean. I didn't try to kiss
Speaker 1: her because I just went into it not trying to
Speaker 1: expect anything. I mean, did you guys make plans or
Speaker 1: what was the kind of parting words? I said A
Speaker 1: call her, and I mean she didn't say anything. She
Speaker 1: just kind of smiled and walked away. Okay, what do
Speaker 1: you think? Why do you think she's not calling you?
Speaker 1: I mean, I just hope she he's not cheating on
Speaker 1: someone else. That's because did you think that maybe she
Speaker 1: was in a relationship or that you're just jumping to
Speaker 1: that conclusion. That's the only thing I can think of.
Speaker 1: She's a really pretty girl, and you know I followed
Speaker 1: the list exactly, So I don't know why she wouldn't
Speaker 1: be into me. Yeah, she's either taken her dead. Those
Speaker 1: are pretty extreme measures, I don't think, so. I can't
Speaker 1: think of any other reason she wouldn't call me back.
Speaker 1: I mean, we had a great time, and I just
Speaker 1: don't know why she wouldn't want to call me for
Speaker 1: another date. Okay, Well we'll play a song and then
Speaker 1: come back and call her and get your second date update. Okay,
Speaker 1: sounds great. I really appreciate it, no problem, hang on,
Speaker 1: all right, we'll do it right after that. Looking cubile
Speaker 1: in the morning updates if you're just joining us for
Speaker 1: today's second date update. Oscar is on the phone, and
Speaker 1: Oscar is quite a bore. That's not what I say
Speaker 1: about him. I think Oscar's a lot of fun. But
Speaker 1: apparently Oscar's friends have told him that he's a little
Speaker 1: boring when it comes to dating. So he went online
Speaker 1: and googled how to have fun on a date, and
Speaker 1: he shared with us that he learned things like be
Speaker 1: a dating anthropologist, which means to observe everything with a
Speaker 1: curious hmm. Isn't that interesting mindset. He also said that
Speaker 1: it's okay to laugh at the other person's jokes no
Speaker 1: matter what, even if you don't find it funny, and
Speaker 1: relax and don't have fake fun. But he's not getting
Speaker 1: a call back from a girl named Jade, and we're
Speaker 1: about to get her on the phone and see why.
Speaker 1: All right, Oscar, anything else that you want to say
Speaker 1: before we give her a call? I just want to
Speaker 1: say I really like this girl, and you know, she's
Speaker 1: really pretty and a lot of fun, and I really
Speaker 1: hope she picks up when you guys call her. And
Speaker 1: is it going to be okay if we tell her
Speaker 1: about your googling and your three tips and trying to
Speaker 1: improve your dating self. I'd rather if you didn't. It's
Speaker 1: a little embarrassing, Okay, So I'll start with that, then
Speaker 1: I'll start with that you have a good date. All right,
Speaker 1: Here we go. I'm dialing her fund of her right now? Hello? Hi,
Speaker 1: is this Jade? This is she? Hey Jade, how are you?
Speaker 1: This is Jewel from Brook and Jewel in the Morning.
Speaker 1: From what Brook and Jewel in the Morning. It's a
Speaker 1: radio show. Okay. Sounds like you're wondering why I'm calling. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll explain. We do a segment on our show. It's
Speaker 1: called the second Date Update. So we got an email
Speaker 1: about you from a dude that listen to our show.
Speaker 1: His name is Oscar. Okay do you know Oscar? Yeah? Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: Oscar emailed us. He told us a little bit about
Speaker 1: your date, and he also says he's really interested in
Speaker 1: seeing you again, but you're not answering any of his
Speaker 1: phone calls or text messages. He's interested in seeing me again? Yeah,
Speaker 1: did it not seem like it? Not at all. Really,
Speaker 1: he said that you're really pretty and funny and he
Speaker 1: was really into you. Okay, Uh, maybe you guys are
Speaker 1: talking about a different Oscar than I have no idea. Really,
Speaker 1: maybe if we were, that would be an amazing coincidence
Speaker 1: that a guy named Oscar emailed us to call a
Speaker 1: woman named Jade had your phone nubrenn. It's a different Oscar.
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think it's probably the same guy.
Speaker 1: I mean, I thought he was very cute, but I
Speaker 1: didn't think he was very into me. Why why didn't
Speaker 1: you think that? I mean, basically, God, Honestly, everything I
Speaker 1: said in the conversation he responded with, m that's interesting.
Speaker 1: And it just it just felt like he was mocking me.
Speaker 1: You know. Really, I assume, like I, you know, I
Speaker 1: know what it's like dating in this time, and like
Speaker 1: he's probably seeing other people and whatever. Maybe I just didn't,
Speaker 1: you know, pique his interest. It just didn't feel like
Speaker 1: he was genuinely into me. Really, that's interesting. You know,
Speaker 1: it sounds like you talked to him, because that is
Speaker 1: exactly what he was saying. We did. We talked to
Speaker 1: him about your date, and he was really trying to
Speaker 1: pay attention to you, believe it or not, even if
Speaker 1: he was trying to pay attention to me. At one point,
Speaker 1: I went up to the bar to get us another
Speaker 1: round of drinks, and this other dude came up and
Speaker 1: started very like obviously hitting on me, and I thought that,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm on a date. I figured Oscar would
Speaker 1: probably come up and try to stop that, but instead
Speaker 1: Oscar did come up. However, he was trying to encourage
Speaker 1: me to give that guy my number. What Yeah, So
Speaker 1: I was like, clearly he's trying to get rid of me,
Speaker 1: you know, trying to paw me up on somebody else.
Speaker 1: So that surprised me because he said you liked you
Speaker 1: a lot. I don't know why you'd be on a
Speaker 1: date though, and be like, yeah, go ahead, man, get
Speaker 1: her number. It. Yeah, I don't know. He was passing
Speaker 1: me around, so I like, he kept checking his phone.
Speaker 1: I don't know it just I was not getting vibes
Speaker 1: that he wasn't all interested in me. Okay, well let's
Speaker 1: see if he was actually interested in you, like he
Speaker 1: says he is because he's on the other line listening
Speaker 1: and wants to talk to you. Uh, okay, Oscar, are
Speaker 1: you still there? Hey? Yeah, Jade, I don't know how
Speaker 1: this happened. I don't really know who whoa whoa whoa
Speaker 1: whoa whoa whoa? What is going on right now? Jade?
Speaker 1: I understand why you feel that way, and I promise
Speaker 1: I have a really good explanation. Okay, I'm super confused
Speaker 1: right now, but sure, I'm I. Let's hear the explanation.
Speaker 1: When I when I kept checking my phone, I had
Speaker 1: written down how to be funner on a date, so
Speaker 1: I was checking that to see how to be funner
Speaker 1: on a date. You were checking to be how to
Speaker 1: be funner on a Yeah, my friends told me that
Speaker 1: I'm a boring date, so before our date, I googled
Speaker 1: how to be better on dates, So I was checking
Speaker 1: the list. You actually kept checking your phone to make
Speaker 1: sure you were doing it. I don't know. I just
Speaker 1: I get nervous on dates, you know. I felt like
Speaker 1: I had to just keep reminding myself. Yeah, but that
Speaker 1: still doesn't explain all the other weird stuff that you
Speaker 1: were doing on the date. I mean, for example, she
Speaker 1: said that a guy came up to her at the
Speaker 1: bar and was hitting on her. The old Oscar would
Speaker 1: have jumped in and immediately gotten aggressive, but the new
Speaker 1: Oscar just plays things cool and tried to go with
Speaker 1: the flow and let it happen. So going with the
Speaker 1: flow is allowing me to pick up other men on
Speaker 1: a date. I guess it's just what was happening. So
Speaker 1: I just kind of went with it. You know, it
Speaker 1: doesn't sound like allowing you. It sounds like he was
Speaker 1: your wing man in that situation. I didn't want you
Speaker 1: to actually go out with him. I just thought that
Speaker 1: if I played it cool, go with the flow, and
Speaker 1: I thought that you would think, oh, he's pretty cool
Speaker 1: and fun, and you know, you would like me more
Speaker 1: if you if you if I encourage you to get
Speaker 1: another dudes' phone number, you might like me more, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I just I needed to look
Speaker 1: like I was an easygoing guy, and an easy going
Speaker 1: guy would just let her give out her number. You
Speaker 1: you shouldn't encourage your date to be seeing other people
Speaker 1: like especially not on the date. And I just look,
Speaker 1: you're a nice guy. I don't understand. Why can't you
Speaker 1: just be yourself on a date. Well, because then I
Speaker 1: would be boring. Why would you say that? Well, like,
Speaker 1: all right, for instance, when you said that, I kept saying,
Speaker 1: isn't that interesting what I was doing? The list said
Speaker 1: to be a dating anthropologist, so I was trying to
Speaker 1: be curious, and I know you thought that I was
Speaker 1: trying to mock you, but I wasn't. I was just
Speaker 1: trying to be a dating anthropologist, right, But if you
Speaker 1: had no response to anything I was saying besides, hm,
Speaker 1: that's interesting, that doesn't make for a conversation. That just
Speaker 1: makes for me saying something and you ending the conversation
Speaker 1: by saying it's interesting by adding anything to it. I
Speaker 1: know it didn't seem like I was listening, but I
Speaker 1: really was. But that's not how conversations work. Well, the
Speaker 1: list said that you would react in a positive way
Speaker 1: to all this, and you think that I was cool
Speaker 1: and laid back, and apparently that's not what you're thinking. Hmm,
Speaker 1: that's interesting, Jane, I mean joking aside, like he was
Speaker 1: doing something to try to make a date really go
Speaker 1: well and it obviously backfired. Like do you have any
Speaker 1: sympathy for him at this point? I mean, it makes
Speaker 1: a lot more sense now, Like I finally get what
Speaker 1: he was doing, and he is cute, but I would
Speaker 1: like to know what he's really like, you know, and
Speaker 1: not just some list okay of what do you think
Speaker 1: they should be? Like? Well, perfect, then why don't you
Speaker 1: go out on another date with him? Jade? Would you
Speaker 1: like to go out with Oscar again? We'll pay for it. Listen, Jid,
Speaker 1: before you answer, you can date the old Oscar. The
Speaker 1: old Oscar is still around, the old boring Oscar change.
Speaker 1: So I am very very interested to see who you
Speaker 1: truly are, because I do think you're a very attractive guy.
Speaker 1: But if we go out again and another dude hits
Speaker 1: on me, I do not want you to encourage that,
Speaker 1: Like I want you to shut that down and be like, no,
Speaker 1: this is my date. You know that I feel like
Speaker 1: you want to be with me. I can definitely do that. Actually,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm much more aggressive than I was on our
Speaker 1: last date. I might actually hit the guy this time.
Speaker 1: Does that make it better? Jade? If ye don't need
Speaker 1: to do that, middle ground, go somewhere in the middle.
Speaker 1: There he got it, so no punching, but also don't
Speaker 1: let him give you his numbers. That what you're saying. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that sounds great. Perfect, All right, Well, congratulations Oscar, you
Speaker 1: got a second date? All right, guys, thank you so much. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I'm looking forward to getting to know the real
Speaker 1: you and not a dating anthropologist. M isn't that interesting?
Speaker 1: That was a joke, right, that was a joke. Yeah, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: making sure in the morning text in at seven eighty
Speaker 1: five nine two, it says, never believe what the Internet says. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree. Talking about today's second date update if you
Speaker 1: missed it, Oscar wanted to call this girl named Jade.
Speaker 1: His friends told him that they think he's a boring
Speaker 1: dater and that's why he doesn't do very well when
Speaker 1: it comes to dating. So he said, he went online
Speaker 1: and googled how to have fun on a date and
Speaker 1: took some notes. We called Jade and she said that
Speaker 1: Oscar didn't seem genuinely interested in her during their date
Speaker 1: because he kept checking his phone. His response was that
Speaker 1: he was checking his phone because he was looking at
Speaker 1: his notes and his phone for how to respond her
Speaker 1: so that he could seem interested. And I guess he
Speaker 1: kept saying, hmm, that's interesting. After like everything, she said,
Speaker 1: because the Internet told him too. I will say, you know,
Speaker 1: I like that he put some effort in, but his
Speaker 1: notes were literally listen to someone and be engaged in conversation,
Speaker 1: like why do you have to keep checking those? His
Speaker 1: notes should have been like, don't look at your phone
Speaker 1: too much, don't stare at your phone the whole time.
Speaker 1: The worst part is even when another guy came over
Speaker 1: and hit on Jade, Oscar actually encouraged the guy to
Speaker 1: get the number. He said he was just trying to
Speaker 1: seem cool and laid back, so weird that she thought
Speaker 1: he wasn't interested. After explaining that all, Jade did agree
Speaker 1: to go on a second date with him. Hopefully this
Speaker 1: time he leaves his notes at home and doesn't encourage
Speaker 1: her to go out with another dude while they're dating.
Speaker 1: We'll see how that goes. Remember, if you want a
Speaker 1: second date update, just email the show and we will
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