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Speaker 1: network more to come into the near future. We head now

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Speaker 1: to our friend Andy McCarthy, who is still in Chicago.

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Speaker 1: I think watching his son play for the University of

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Speaker 1: Chicago baseball team. I understand that we sent him a

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Speaker 1: New York Mets mug. It's good for a Mets fan

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Speaker 2: Right off the top. Shots at Andy play bringing the heat.

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Speaker 2: You know right away?

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Speaker 1: Andy, By the way, who do you like in the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl? We probably won't talk to you before then.

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Speaker 1: Do you have a strong lean one way or the other?

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Speaker 1: Forty nine Ers or Chiefs.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the Chiefs are. I just think mahomes

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Speaker 5: is to get into that sort of Montana Brady category,

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Speaker 5: he's got to like go on the road, win those

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Speaker 5: playoff games and get a championship, and then I think

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Speaker 5: he's in that conversation. So I think that's what's happening.

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Speaker 2: I'm on the other side, by the way, the forty

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Speaker 2: nine Ers, but that, Yeah, there we go.

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Speaker 4: We got an easy, easy battle going on there.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's dive into what we got today DC

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Speaker 1: Court of Appeals. I think you would probably say not

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Speaker 1: a surprising ruling that they're not buying Donald Trump's presidential

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Speaker 1: immunity argument.

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Speaker 2: He now faces. The Trump does in his legal team

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Speaker 2: the question, does he appeal on bank to the entirety

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Speaker 2: of the DC Court of Appeals knowing that the DC

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Speaker 2: and then would.

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Speaker 1: Appeal to the Supreme Court? Or do you think he

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court. How would you assess where we are right

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Speaker 1: now as it pertains to this Jan sixth case based

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Speaker 5: Clay, I think equally important with the fifty seven page opinion, which,

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Speaker 5: as you suggest, is a pretty thorough rejection of the

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Speaker 5: that the court issued in conjunction with the opinion. And

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Speaker 5: it's very interesting. What it does is it says to Trump,

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Speaker 5: case in abeyance. Until the Supreme Court acts on it.

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Speaker 5: But if you instead decide to take your thirty days

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Speaker 5: that is not going to stop proceedings in the district

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Speaker 5: court anymore. So you either appeal to the Supreme Court Monday,

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Speaker 4: Have you ever seen that before?

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Speaker 5: I know I've never seen well also, I mean, is

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Speaker 5: I tell him we have to appeals to the Supreme

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Speaker 5: they're going to hear the obstruction case in connection with

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Speaker 5: some of the January sixth defendants. And even though Trump

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Speaker 5: So I think, as a practical matter, because the Supreme

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Speaker 5: So if I'm Trump's lawyers, I think I would say, well, look,

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Speaker 2: Andy, what is the from the perspective of Jack Smith,

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Speaker 2: what are they hoping this is going to play out?

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Speaker 4: Right? Like?

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Speaker 2: What what is their best case scenario as you see

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Speaker 5: I think they go to Cheese determined to go to trial.

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Speaker 5: They go to trial in late July. I've been saying

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Speaker 5: you know, after that, the hope for them would be

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Speaker 5: the Supreme Court doesn't do much with the obstruction case

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Speaker 5: that would disturb Smith's indictment, and then with little or

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Speaker 5: no tweaking, he can just go to trial a few

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Speaker 5: weeks later, and in the meantime, Chucken can use this

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Speaker 5: and go to trial in July. And then they hope

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Speaker 5: buck to you know, in a federal criminal trial, the

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Speaker 5: defendant has to be there every day, and this is

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Speaker 5: I think they would hope to have Trump sort of

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Speaker 5: not only chained to a courtroom from late like late

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Speaker 5: July into October, but also day after day after day,

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Speaker 5: the evidence in the case is going to be coming

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I wanted to take it from that perspective, so

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Speaker 2: we can kind of know. Worst case now from the

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Speaker 2: Trump perspective, obviously heavily involving the Supreme Court's actions. Here,

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Speaker 5: That's Smith that the Supreme Court issues an opinion in

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Speaker 5: the obstruction case that not only dismantles the imaginative uses

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Speaker 5: you know, look, just like we said last term in

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Speaker 5: threw out, we were telling prosecutors not to creatively use

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Speaker 5: these statutes and stretch them in a way that they

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Speaker 5: were never intended to be used in order to fight

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Speaker 5: political corruption. If Congress wants to write political corruption statutes,

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Speaker 5: they can do that, but it's not up to prosecutors

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Speaker 5: to use the law this way. And if they wrote

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Speaker 5: an opinion like that, and I don't think that's out

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Speaker 5: of the realm of possibility, I wouldn't bet my life

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Speaker 5: on it, that would be a problem for Smith, not

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Speaker 5: only in connection with the obstruction but also with the

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Speaker 5: civil rights charge and the fraud charge. So I think

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Speaker 5: that's Trump's biggest hope that the Supreme Court blows it

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Speaker 5: out of the water for him on the obstruction case.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Traditionally, and again we're talking about we're talking to

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Speaker 1: any McCarthy. Everything we're talking about is unprecedented, non traditional.

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Speaker 4: Yes, in the legitimate use of the word.

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Speaker 1: As a general rule, the Department of Justice has a

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Speaker 1: policy that they do not do political trials in the

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Speaker 1: middle of elections. This has been the standard rule for

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Speaker 4: It twenty twenty two when they rated mar A Lago.

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Speaker 1: I think they tried to do it in August instead

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Speaker 1: of doing it in October. And what we're talking about now,

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Speaker 1: and I agree with you on timing, is the possibility

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Speaker 1: that this case would go to trial right.

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Speaker 4: In the middle of the election.

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Speaker 1: Right to your point, Trump could leave the Republican Convention

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Speaker 1: and go straight to a courtroom in d C. And

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Speaker 1: be there for the rest of July, August, September on

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Speaker 4: This is really crazy.

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Speaker 2: What do you think Mayor Garland would say about that

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Speaker 5: appointed a special council here and President Biden and I

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Speaker 5: don't have anything to do with the cases against President Trump,

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Speaker 5: which was the reason. You know there shouldn't be a

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Speaker 5: special counsel in this case. The reason he appointed a

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Speaker 5: conflict of interest between the Biden Justice Department and Trump. Right,

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Speaker 5: there's a conflict of interest between the Biden Justice Department

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Speaker 5: only reason he appointed the spial Council was so that

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Speaker 5: we could indulge this that he doesn't have anything to

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Speaker 5: to do with the President. Biden doesn't even though Jack

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Speaker 5: Smith is executing President Biden's power under the auspices of

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Speaker 5: That's clear they've made up this fantasy new right that

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Speaker 5: Trump doesn't want a speedy trial. He wants more time.

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Speaker 2: I mean meaning either Supreme Court shoots it down in

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Speaker 1: What do you think they're selling Alvin Bragg right now?

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Speaker 5: Well, two things with that Clay. One is that you

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Speaker 5: if I'm the Democrats, there's nothing good that comes out

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Speaker 5: It'll be up to him whether he wants to push

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Speaker 2: Just the future of the Republicans take everybody, no big deal,

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Speaker 2: any MacArthur, everybody of National Review, Andy, thanks for.

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Speaker 4: Being with us.

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Speaker 3: One truth revealed after another Clay Travis and Buck Sexton.

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Speaker 2: Democrats have a problem. Well, there's a lot you could

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Speaker 2: it comes to immigration, that's for sure, because even Democrats

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Speaker 6: But here you go.

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Speaker 2: Over on MSNBC, Al Sharpton referred to an invasion of

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Speaker 7: What is being done to get the public to really

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Speaker 2: But invasion of migrants, and the problem is that Republicans

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Speaker 1: Buck, just consider the Overton window of what is able

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Speaker 1: What is the Democrat Party doing for me, they promise

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Speaker 1: And I think we have a clip this is from

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Speaker 1: going off on people who were asking about this migrant

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Speaker 4: Can we play that clip?

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Speaker 1: This is again from October, but this is emblematic I

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Speaker 1: think of the pressures that suddenly Democrat office holders are

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Speaker 8: I have children who attend schools, we have soccer games.

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Speaker 8: Yuh So you're all asking me as if I'm not

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Speaker 8: a parent in this city.

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Speaker 4: I get it.

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Speaker 8: A mayor, I get it. But you're asking me to

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Speaker 8: give you a date and I have to court. Do

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Speaker 8: you understand that you have not had a mayor like me.

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Speaker 8: I get that. I have a wife, I have children,

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Speaker 8: they have schedules, and plus we still have public safety

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Speaker 8: that we have to address. We still have the un

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Speaker 8: House that we have to address. I still have a

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Speaker 8: budget that I have to address, and I'm doing all

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Speaker 8: of that with a black wife raising three black children

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Speaker 8: on the west side of Sea of Chicago, I am

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Speaker 8: going to the border as soon as possible.

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Speaker 2: This is funny to me, Buck, because most people have

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Speaker 2: kids and wives or husbands and kids, and they still

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Speaker 2: have serious jobs too.

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Speaker 4: So when you get.

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Speaker 1: Criticized for what's going on with migrants in your city

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Speaker 1: and your response is I've got soccer games to go to, I'm.

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Speaker 4: A dad, I don't think that plays very well.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's one thing to be normal and have

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Speaker 1: a normal life, which many parents and grandparents out there

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Speaker 1: listening to us do, but that doesn't mean you don't

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Speaker 1: have an oblation and a responsibility to get your job done,

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Speaker 1: especially when you're being highly paid for it and you

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Speaker 1: ran for the obligation. Don't beg for the responsibility of

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Speaker 1: being the leader of a city.

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Speaker 4: Get it.

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Speaker 1: And then as soon as the criticism starts to rain

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Speaker 1: down on you say, hey, I got kids soccer games

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Speaker 1: to get to. But I think this is what the

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Speaker 1: pressure is doing to democrat politicians in their marketplaces.

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Speaker 4: Buck. This is different, and I.

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Speaker 1: Give credit to Greg Abbott for helping to further this conversation,

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Speaker 1: but it is super super interesting.

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Speaker 2: That this could be could be happening. Yes, I agree,

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Speaker 2: very important, very interesting that it's happening. So we will

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Speaker 2: continue to follow this one as closely as we can.

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Speaker 1: And we got a jury verdict that will tell you

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Speaker 1: about when we come back coming out of Michigan in

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Speaker 1: that school shooting case that some of you may be

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Speaker 1: intrigued about because it's a relatively uncommon precedent as it

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Speaker 1: pertains to what's occurring there. But I want to tell

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Speaker 1: you right now, you've seen QR codes and restaurants are

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Speaker 1: on products. It's computer generated, little black and white square.

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Speaker 1: You zoom in on it with your phone, get the menu.

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Speaker 1: I hate this, By the way, Can we bring back

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Speaker 1: menus everywhere? I don't know anybody who's like, you know what,

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Speaker 1: I love a QR code, but that's just me.

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Speaker 4: I want actual paper.

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Speaker 1: Remember they were like, oh, we can't have menus anymore

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Speaker 1: because that'll spread COVID. Can we just have menus everywhere anyway?

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Speaker 1: I hate QR codes, but especially when they're using it.

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Speaker 1: Guess what's also happening now. Cyber criminals are taking advantage

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Speaker 2: its consequences, its significance.

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Speaker 4: I think you will learn quite a lot from that.

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Speaker 4: The show is over.

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Speaker 1: You can also obviously watch us live for three hours

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Speaker 1: every single day at Clayanbuck dot com. Okay, Donald, we've talked.

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Speaker 1: I think we might have mentioned on the show earlier,

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Speaker 1: maybe yesterday, that Tucker Carlson was in Russia. If we didn't,

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Speaker 1: we certainly have talked about it off a or sometimes

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Speaker 1: the conversations are very similar. But Tucker just released a

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Speaker 1: video saying yes he's in Russia and he's there to

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Speaker 1: interview Vladimir Putin. I think that's an interesting decision. I

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Speaker 1: agree that if you can interview some somebody at the

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Speaker 1: center of a geopolitical universe, you should Here's Tucker talking

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Speaker 1: about his decision to interview Putin.

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Speaker 9: Most Americans have no idea why Putin invaded Ukraine or

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Speaker 9: what his goals are. Now you've never heard his voice.

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Speaker 9: That's wrong. Americans have a right to know all they

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Speaker 9: can about a war they're implicated in, and we have

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Speaker 9: the right to tell them about it because we are

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Speaker 9: Americans too. Freedom of speech is our birthright. We were

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Speaker 9: born with the right to say what we believe. That

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Speaker 9: right cannot be taken away no matter who is in

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Speaker 9: the White House. But they're trying anyway. Almost three years ago,

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Speaker 9: the Biden administration illegally spied on our text messages and

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Speaker 9: then leaked the contents to their servants in the news media.

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Speaker 9: They did this in order to stop a Putin interview

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Speaker 9: that we were planning last month, where pretty certainly did

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Speaker 9: exactly the same thing once again, but this time we

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Speaker 9: came to Moscow. Anyway, we are not encouraging you to

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Speaker 9: agree with what Putin may say in this interview, but

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Speaker 9: we are urging you to watch it. You should know

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Speaker 9: as much as you can, and then, like a free

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Speaker 9: citizen and not a slave, you can decide for yourself.

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Speaker 1: I agree with everything he said there, Buck, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what Putin's going to say.

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Speaker 4: Obviously some people are going to rip him.

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Speaker 1: But I think if CBSNBC, Fox News, CNN, any of

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Speaker 1: these outlets had the opportunity to sit down one on

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Speaker 1: one with Vladimir Putin, you would have to take it.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure what you lose by this. To me,

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Speaker 1: it's a big get from a journalist.

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Speaker 2: We got to see how it goes. I respect I

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Speaker 2: like Tucker. You like Tucker, and I respect his his

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Speaker 2: HUTSPA a lot and what he's done over the years.

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Speaker 2: Does this turn into just Vladimir Putin with the same

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Speaker 2: talking points about the threat for NATO et cetera, et cetera.

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Speaker 2: Or is there something that we glean from this that

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Speaker 2: is that is new, that is novel. You know there

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Speaker 2: are limits, right, I mean, after nine to eleven, if

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Speaker 2: you said, I'm not saying Putin is Oslamam and Lauden,

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Speaker 2: but it would be quite an interview to sit down

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Speaker 2: with oslamon Lauden. After nine to eleven and ask them, hey,

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Speaker 2: so why'd you do that? But I think people have

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Speaker 2: a problem with that, right, So it's not just you

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Speaker 2: talk to anybody because it's interesting, although maybe some people disagree.

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Speaker 2: Maybe they'll say, oh my god, I have any American

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Speaker 2: I mean it been lauden. I mean, I think, honestly,

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Speaker 2: if your job is to be a journalist and there

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Speaker 2: is a news maker when you interview someone, this is

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Speaker 2: my perspective, is not I'm not a journalist. Do you

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Speaker 2: think of yourself as a journalist?

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Speaker 6: Though?

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Speaker 2: This is where I mean it's a little You know,

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Speaker 2: I have opinions and views, right, I don't. I don't

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Speaker 2: pretend to be neutral ever.

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Speaker 1: Yeah right, but I I yes, on this show, you

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Speaker 1: and I are saying exactly what we think. But if,

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Speaker 1: for instance, I'm just tossing it out because you mentioned

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Speaker 1: Bin Laden, he's dead. If somebody from North Korea reached

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Speaker 1: out to me and they said, Kim Jong un wants

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Speaker 1: to do a sit down interview because he saw your

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Speaker 1: opinion on the Chicago Bulls and he likes he likes. Uh,

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Speaker 1: He's chosen you of all journalists that he would want

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Speaker 1: to sit down with. I think I could say I

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Speaker 1: would go and I would sit down across from Kim

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Speaker 1: Jong Uh.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I'd be.

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Speaker 1: So worried about it all the time everybody. I would,

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Speaker 1: But I mean I wouldn't give my opinion. So I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, I would say, Megan Kelly has a super

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Speaker 1: opinionated show, right, but I think she would argue, hey,

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Speaker 1: I can sit down and also.

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Speaker 2: You can give an interview. Yeah, I think what would

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Speaker 2: fall under journalistic approach. But I just you know that

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Speaker 2: the title journal I mean, I think journalists as a

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Speaker 2: that's not I know, that's kind of secondary to the

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Speaker 2: fit to the main point, which is to go and

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Speaker 2: sit down and talk to Putin. You know, I think

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Speaker 2: I gotta see what I see how it goes.

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Speaker 1: I would say, I would say, yes, I think if

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Speaker 1: if I were in that position and the guy who's

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Speaker 1: currently in war, and I would say, look, if somebody

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Speaker 1: actually heard whatever Hitler was going to say, again, you're

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Speaker 1: not endorsing to me. Leaders Giving speech and answering questions

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Speaker 1: in general is something that should be encouraged, even if

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Speaker 1: sometimes they're well.

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Speaker 2: See the problem though, Clay with with interviewing Putin is

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Speaker 2: you're interviewing him in Russia. You're not going to you know,

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Speaker 2: the the home her home turf advantage here isn't Oh,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna get It's not like when I go on

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Speaker 2: the Bill Maher Show and the imbeciles in the audience boomy.

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Speaker 2: It's they might just say you're not going back. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and I get it. They might decide that they're going

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Speaker 2: to hold you. That's not being look but they just did.

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Speaker 2: They have the whole thing with Britney Griner. I mean

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Speaker 2: they've they've still got they got that Wall Street Journal

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Speaker 2: journalist right now, you know much more in the moment

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Speaker 2: here Evan Gorskovic. They're holding him. He's a Wall Street

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Speaker 2: Journal report everybody. They're holding him. They're keeping him in

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Speaker 2: a prison cell there.

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Speaker 4: He did nothing.

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Speaker 2: And I hope and I hope Tucker would say, hey,

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Speaker 2: I think based on all the evidence I've seen, that

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Speaker 2: guy should be released.

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Speaker 4: Really I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Well, but what I'm saying is, are you really able

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Speaker 2: to do an interview and speak truth to power when

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Speaker 2: the person sitting down with you as soon as those

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Speaker 2: lights go off. Could be like, yeah, no, we're just

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Speaker 2: going to hold him for six months. Yeah, And so

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Speaker 2: that's the risk of griping, right, that's the risk of guys.

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Speaker 2: So there's more dynamics here. This isn't like, Oh, Putin's

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Speaker 2: at the un and you get to sit down and

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Speaker 2: have a chat with them where you can actually really

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Speaker 2: push him. I mean, I I think I know what

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Speaker 2: he's going to say before he's First of all, it's

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Speaker 2: all through a translator, which means there's a lot that's

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Speaker 2: lost in translation. Obviously, I'm not judging it either way.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying this is tricky, you know, because I

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Speaker 2: remember a long time ago, at the height of the

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Speaker 2: Syrian Civil War. It's a long story, but someone came

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Speaker 2: to me in back channel and was saying, hey, I

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Speaker 2: think I could arrange for you and maybe a couple

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Speaker 2: of other people to sit down with Asad. Oh wow,

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Speaker 2: and and I it ended up not happening, and it

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Speaker 2: was very early stage, and I didn't even agree to it.

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Speaker 2: This is just an offer that was made. Someone said Hey,

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Speaker 2: I think I could do that. I said, ah, let

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Speaker 2: me think about that, and then you know, it sort

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Speaker 2: of fell apart. But I mean, remember what happened with

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Speaker 2: Telsey Gabbard when she did that afterwards. Now, some people

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Speaker 2: thought that that was an act of bravery for her

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Speaker 2: to talk to the Assad regime, go to Syria, all

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Speaker 2: of that. But there's a fine line between, you know,

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Speaker 2: there's a fine line in some instances between speaking truth

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Speaker 2: to power getting the answers people need. And I'm hopeful

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Speaker 2: that Tucker is going to do exactly that and getting

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Speaker 2: a little closer to like a Jane Fonda experience where

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Speaker 2: you're hanging out with the enemy and letting them use

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Speaker 2: you as a mountain. Now, that won't happen with Tucker.

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Speaker 2: But I'm just saying these are the addition when you

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Speaker 2: show up in a tyrants layer. There are additional considerations

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Speaker 2: that don't apply if you're just talking to somebody here.

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Speaker 4: In the States.

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Speaker 2: One challenge, by the way, too, which you just raised

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Speaker 2: about being in Russia. I don't know how many countries

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Speaker 2: Vladimir Putin can even travel to right now, given that

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Speaker 2: there are war crimes accusations against him, where there wouldn't

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Speaker 2: be the threat that he might be arrested or detained

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Speaker 2: in some way. Absolutely, I mean, I'm not even sure

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Speaker 2: I mean, that would be interesting to know. Did Tucker say, hey,

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Speaker 2: can we meet in a neutral location outside of Russia?

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Speaker 2: I don't know how many countries I think Putin has

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Speaker 2: traveled to China. I don't think you'd feel much more

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Speaker 6: There.

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Speaker 1: I just I don't think there's very many democracies that

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Speaker 2: I mean, if I got you, if I got you

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Speaker 2: to sit down in China with Shi Jinping, would you

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Speaker 2: be like, hey, man, the million people you have in

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Speaker 2: concentration camps, that's a crime again humanity. You need to

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Speaker 2: stop that. You need to step down from power. I mean, Clay,

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you'd make it back if you did, honestly.

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Speaker 2: So this, this is the reality I get that we

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Speaker 1: I mean, I get it. I mean that is that

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Speaker 1: is the challenge. So we'll see what happens. But I

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Speaker 1: do think it's worth mentioning that that's going to go

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Speaker 1: as fascinating, right look at it.

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Speaker 2: Look at us sitting here talking about all the different

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Speaker 2: possibilities but also the implications. And you know, Tucker is

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Speaker 2: one of my favorite people to watch and listen to

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Speaker 2: in the space generally. So I mean, I'm I'm I'm

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Speaker 2: definitely gonna listen to this interview. I'm just saying, there's

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Speaker 2: a it's there's it's a field of land mines, there

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Speaker 2: are land and by the way, we didn't even mention, yes,

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Speaker 2: obviously you're in Russia.

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Speaker 4: But also how long does the interview go?

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Speaker 1: Do you get to keep your tapes right? Like who

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Speaker 1: is recording it? But there are many and to your point,

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Speaker 1: it's translated. So the difficulty there is you have to

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Speaker 1: rely that the translator is telling you the truth, which

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Speaker 1: translating the translator it is?

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Speaker 2: It is going to be amazing, I think to follow

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Speaker 2: Street guru, and he is running for United States Senate

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Speaker 2: in Pennsylvania. Dave, good to have you back on the program.

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Speaker 6: Hey Jack, how are you good?

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Speaker 2: Let's start with this if we can, Dave, are you

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Speaker 2: going to win Pennsylvania?

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Speaker 6: Why?

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you're going to say yes, But why? And

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Speaker 2: what can be done there to make sure that it's

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Speaker 2: w's this time, given what the Shenanigans we saw in

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Speaker 2: Pennsylvania back in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well, it's gonna be a great election in twenty

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Speaker 6: twenty four, primarily because eighty percent of Pennsylvanians think the

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Speaker 6: country's going in their wrong direction. They look at this

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Speaker 6: order crisis, they look at record high inflation, they look

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Speaker 6: at crime five thousand cent in all deaths, and they

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Speaker 6: are terribly worried about the future of the country and

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Speaker 6: the future of Pennsylvania. And my opponent, Bob Casey's been

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Speaker 6: there seventeen years and frankly hasn't done much of anything

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Speaker 6: and has voted ninety eight percent of the time with

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Speaker 6: Joe Biden. So it's a change election. People see this

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Speaker 6: as an opportunity to put new leadership in place. And

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Speaker 6: I'm someone who's been a leader in the military and

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Speaker 6: in business, and I'm going to go there to shake

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Speaker 6: up Washington. And that is the trast And I think

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Speaker 6: that same thing holds true for other candidates, whether it's

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Speaker 6: Everybody views our current country as in decline and we

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Speaker 6: need leadership to fix it.

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Speaker 1: Dave, great to see you last night. I know you're

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Speaker 1: going all over the country and all over Pennsylvania raising

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Speaker 1: money to be able to win what I think is

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Speaker 1: one of the two or three most important Senate races

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Speaker 1: in the entire country coming up in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 1: It looks like Trump is going to be the Republican

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Speaker 1: nominee and you will be the nominee for the Senate

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Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania. How do you think you helped Trump? How

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Speaker 1: do you think Trump helps you? What does a coalition

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Speaker 1: of winners look like in Pennsylvania? Because if Trump wins Pennsylvania,

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Speaker 1: He's going to be the president. And if you win Pennsylvania,

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Speaker 1: Republicans are going to have control of the Senate too.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, the stakes are high, which is why I'm so

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Speaker 6: committed to winning and why I'm making this run. I

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Speaker 6: think President Trump and I see it across the Commonwealth.

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Speaker 6: I mean, people come out on the happy moment. Wise

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Speaker 6: is a huge part of the Republican Party that came

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Speaker 6: out very enthusiastically for him, and that happened in twenty sixteen,

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Speaker 6: it happened in twenty twenty, and that'll happen in twenty

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Speaker 6: twenty four and I think I hopefully will be the

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Speaker 6: beneficiary of that great turnout. But I also to bring

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Speaker 6: to the ticket someone who can really appeal across all

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Speaker 6: Pennsylvania and build a coalition of those independents that are

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Speaker 6: very unhappy with the direction of the country, Conservative Democrats,

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Speaker 6: of business people that see the regulations coming under President

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Speaker 6: Biden killing their businesses, and so I you know, my

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Speaker 6: guess is that President Trump's atop say, will help me,

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Speaker 6: and I hope, I'd be hopeful that my candidacy and

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Speaker 6: the strength I would bring will help him.

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Speaker 2: Dave, you know, you ran in the last cycle right

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Speaker 2: as a as a Republican and lost in the primary,

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Speaker 2: and then that seat ended up going to Doc I

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Speaker 2: mean to not doctor Fetterman, to John Fetterman, what would

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Speaker 2: you say are the lessons learned? I mean, you know,

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Speaker 2: you got to observe that contest, right, you got to

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Speaker 2: see Fetterman versus doctor Oz. I think for a lot

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Speaker 2: of people, that was one of the more crushing, you know,

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Speaker 2: morale destroying moments for the GOP and that cycle that

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Speaker 2: Fetterman was able to win. Put aside some of his

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Speaker 2: more same commentary recently, what lessons did you take from

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Speaker 2: that as somebody who's now going to be charging up

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Speaker 2: that hill in Pennsylvania and winning the other Senate See?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well, listen, you know when you lose by nine

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Speaker 6: hundred votes of one point five million casts, I mean,

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Speaker 6: can you can There's lots of things you can learn,

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Speaker 6: And I certainly throughout my life, you know, when I've failed,

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Speaker 6: that's been the engine for growing, getting off the mat

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Speaker 6: and wrestling or football or the military or business. That's

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Speaker 6: that's the way you get better is you learn from

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Speaker 6: the losses. And so I've got lots of lessons. But

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Speaker 6: the most important thing, the most important thing is Pennsylvanians

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Speaker 6: want leadership and they want authenticity. And I'm running a

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Speaker 6: campaign that's based on both I'm doing this because I'm

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Speaker 6: I I love America. I feel like I've been blessed.

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Speaker 6: I want to serve our great country and make sure

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Speaker 6: it doesn't become something that we don't recognize. And I

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Speaker 6: think that resonates with Pennsylvanians. On a Pennsylvania kid, I

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Speaker 6: grew up a royal Pennsylvania, as we talked about, I

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Speaker 6: wrestled and played football. Wrestling got me to West Point,

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Speaker 6: and then I came back to Pennsylvania after serving in

876
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Speaker 6: the Gulf War in Iraq, and I helped build a

877
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Speaker 6: business and create hundreds of jobs. So they want leadership.

878
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Speaker 6: It's a moment where I think people are getting energized

879
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 6: to get out there and vote. And I think that's

880
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 6: a great opportunity for me because I think they see

881
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Speaker 6: my ability to lead and make change. And that's what

882
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Speaker 6: I'm bringing to the table.

883
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Speaker 4: You lost to Oz by about one hundred votes. I

884
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Speaker 4: don't remember.

885
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Speaker 2: I think you may have just told us, but is

886
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Speaker 2: a tying number, and I'm sure that was crushing.

887
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Speaker 4: Do you think if you had been the nominee in

888
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Speaker 4: twenty twenty two you would have eaten Fetterman?

889
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Speaker 6: You know, it's hard to say you never want a

890
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Speaker 6: Monday Warning quarterback. I know that I would certainly give

891
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 6: it everything I could because I'm doing it because I

892
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:03,879
Speaker 6: want to serve the country. And people say to me, God,

893
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 6: it's so vicious, why would you do it again? And

894
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Speaker 6: the reason is, you know, I love American I want

895
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Speaker 6: to serve, and so I don't want to prognosticate about

896
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Speaker 6: what would have happened. The thing I know is that

897
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Speaker 6: I feel the energy on the campaign trow. I feel

898
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 6: Pennsylvanians crying out for change and leadership in candor and

899
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Speaker 6: you know, calling out things that don't make sense, like

900
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Speaker 6: this border deal, which was proposed and ultimately I think

901
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 6: would be bad for Pennsylvanians and bad for America. They

902
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Speaker 6: want that authenticity, they want that truth, they want that leadership.

903
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Speaker 6: And that's why I'm optimistic and that's what I bring

904
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Speaker 6: to the table.

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Speaker 4: We were talking last night.

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Speaker 1: You have decided, I don't hope I'm not stepping on

907
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Speaker 1: a big announcement, but you're going to go all over

908
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Speaker 1: Pennsylvania in a tour bus basically to try to make

909
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Speaker 1: sure that you get to every community face to face,

910
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Speaker 1: be able to shake people's hands all over Pennsylvania, not

911
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Speaker 1: just obviously in the big cities like Pittsburgh and Philadelphia

912
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Speaker 1: and beyond, but also these small areas where turnout is

913
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Speaker 1: so huge. What do you expect and why is it

914
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Speaker 1: important to have that kind of grassroots campaign as we

915
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Speaker 1: come up nine months from now for the election.

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Speaker 6: Well, you know, I grew up in one of those communities,

917
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Speaker 6: one of those small towns in Bloomsburg, which is about

918
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Speaker 6: forty miles south of scrant Wolfsburg area, So that's home

919
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Speaker 6: for me. And you know, stepping back, sixty percent of

920
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Speaker 6: Pennsylvanians are living paycheck to paycheck and they feel like

921
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Speaker 6: their country and the people that have been running it

922
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Speaker 6: haven't been focused on their needs. So I'm want to

923
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Speaker 6: get out on the campaign trail and meet people across

924
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Speaker 6: our great Commonwealth to make sure I'm focused in on

925
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Speaker 6: the right problems, inflation, border crime, the things they're telling me,

926
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Speaker 6: the fentanyl crisis, which I mentioned last night. Five thousand

927
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Speaker 6: Pennsylvanians last year were killed by fentanyl, So I want

928
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Speaker 6: to hear it from them, and I will also want

929
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Speaker 6: to introduce myself to them and tell them why I'm

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Speaker 6: running and make that connection. I don't think there's any

931
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Speaker 6: that can replace that personal connection. And you know, political

932
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 6: consultants to say, TV and all these other things. Of course,

933
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Speaker 6: you got to do that to run a modern campaign.

934
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Speaker 6: But I don't think there's anything that compares to getting

935
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Speaker 6: out there and telling people why you want their vote

936
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Speaker 6: and asking them, respectfully to give it to you. And

937
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Speaker 6: so I'm going to be spending you know, thousands of

938
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Speaker 6: hours on the road doing that, and you know, I'm

939
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Speaker 6: honestly excited about it, because that's why I'm running. I

940
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Speaker 6: want to I want to serve the great people of Pennsylvania.

941
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Speaker 2: Dave, in your previous life or I guess earlier in

942
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 2: your life, I guess same life. Technically, you here were

943
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Speaker 2: somebody who was running a massive hedge fund, and so

944
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Speaker 2: you had to be right about the trajectory of the economy.

945
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Speaker 2: You had to get it right to get into that position.

946
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Speaker 2: What do you think the Biden administration, what are you anticipating,

947
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Speaker 2: because we talked about this a little bit in the

948
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Speaker 2: first hour, with some of the possible rate decreases and

949
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Speaker 2: just other ways that you think they're going to try.

950
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Speaker 2: You know, I think this audience will be helpful if

951
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 2: they knew in advance, if we all have a sense

952
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 2: of what games are going to be played, what levers

953
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Speaker 2: are going to be pulled to make a pretty anemic

954
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Speaker 2: economy look like it's stronger than it is going into

955
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Speaker 2: the election.

956
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Speaker 4: What do you foresee?

957
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Speaker 6: Well, I think that you know, you've got to start

958
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 6: with the with the economic reality. And what's happening is

959
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 6: though these headline numbers that you know, you you turn

960
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 6: on the news or read the newspaper and you see

961
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Speaker 6: a GDP up and inflation the rate of inflation down,

962
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Speaker 6: and people are surprised, Well, if all these numbers are good,

963
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 6: why aren't people happy with the economy? And the reason

964
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Speaker 6: they're not happy is that for most people, things have

965
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Speaker 6: gotten much worse. As I mentioned, sixty percent of Americans

966
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 6: live paycheck at paycheck, and so if you look at

967
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 6: their experience over the last three years, inflation has driven

968
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 6: prices up about twenty percent and wages have gone up

969
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 6: by about fifteen percent. So if you're buying food or

970
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 6: rent or fuel, you've gotten less ability to do that

971
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:03,400
Speaker 6: than you did when Joe Biden came into office. And

972
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 6: then on top of that, what's happened as interest rates

973
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 6: have gone up dramatically. So if you're going to buy

974
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 6: a new pickup truck, the payments just went up by

975
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 6: sixty percent. Or if you're going to buy it, try

976
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 6: to buy a new house. New house purchases are down

977
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 6: fifty percent. They just got twice as expensive. And so

978
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 6: that's what most Americans. Most Americans are experiencing. They don't

979
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 6: have a big stock portfolio, so if the stock market's up,

980
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:26,320
Speaker 6: it doesn't affect them much. And so that's the reality

981
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,919
Speaker 6: Joe Biden has to confront. And that's why even though

982
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 6: the headline numbers look a little bit better, the overall

983
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 6: economy is a lot worse for Pennsylvania's I don't think

984
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 6: there's much likelihood that that's going to change enough to

985
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 6: change how people feel about it, how people are experiencing it. Now,

986
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:44,840
Speaker 6: what's going to happen is that the Democrats's going to

987
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,919
Speaker 6: say crazy things Like my opponent, Bob case He's talking

988
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:51,439
Speaker 6: about greedflation. He thinks the problem is not that they

989
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 6: had policy that spent five trillion dollars more than they

990
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 6: should have show up prices. He thinks the problem is

991
00:49:56,960 --> 00:50:00,799
Speaker 6: that business people are gouging the consumer with greed, and

992
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 6: that greed is the reason that prices are going up.

993
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 6: This is exactly what a career politician who's never made payroll,

994
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:09,359
Speaker 6: who's never created a single job, this is how they

995
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:11,360
Speaker 6: think of things. This is how they think the government

996
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 6: is going to bestow opportunity on people, as opposed to

997
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 6: the private sector creating opportunity. And so I'm going to

998
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 6: be calling BS on all this crazy stuff because I

999
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,359
Speaker 6: actually understand the economy. I'm talking to people on the ground.

1000
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:24,879
Speaker 6: I know what's happening, and I know what it takes

1001
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 6: to create jobs. I'll say one more thing on this.

1002
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 6: What's happened to businesses, whether I go and talk to

1003
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 6: schools that teach people how to be hairdressers, or whether

1004
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 6: I talk to machinists, small manufacturer where I talk to farmers.

1005
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 6: This regulatory state under Joe Biden, the amount of regulations

1006
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:45,400
Speaker 6: that have grown and made it harder to run businesses

1007
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 6: and create new opportunity. That's a huge drag on the economy.

1008
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:52,240
Speaker 6: So in addition to calling BS on the crazy ideas

1009
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 6: of the Biden administration and what they say, I'm also

1010
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 6: going to lay out what needs to happen to get

1011
00:50:56,800 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 6: our economy really growing again and helping all Americans, all Pennsylvanians,

1012
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 6: and part of that's reducing regulation.

1013
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:06,879
Speaker 4: I know you're a penn State fan.

1014
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 1: Last question for you maybe the most difficult one out there,

1015
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 1: one you can tell us for people out there who

1016
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 1: are listening Pennsylvania, they want to get involved where they

1017
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 1: need to go. But maybe the most important question in Pennsylvania,

1018
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 1: certainly in a Super Bowl week, even though neither team

1019
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 1: is involved, are you a Pittsburgh Steelers or an Eagles guy?

1020
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:26,720
Speaker 1: Who is your team in the NFL?

1021
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 6: All right, I'm Steelers all the way. I grew up

1022
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 6: watching those great teams in the seventies and was born

1023
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 6: outside of Pittsburgh, and I lived there and had three

1024
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:39,319
Speaker 6: of my kids there. So I'm a Pittsburgh Steelers fan

1025
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:41,320
Speaker 6: all the way. Now, if the Steelers aren't in and

1026
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 6: then I'll cheer for the Eagles. But I'm all Steelers

1027
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 6: all the time. And but people want to know more

1028
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 6: about me, including more about the Steelers. It's Dave MCCORMICKPA

1029
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 6: dot com and guys, I'm so grateful to be on

1030
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 6: the show.

1031
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:52,840
Speaker 5: Thank you.

1032
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 1: And by the way, David, last night funny fact. If

1033
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 1: anybody thinks that you're not going to be able to

1034
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 1: handle difficulty. You have six daughters that you are raising,

1035
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 1: and I think they're all like teenagers or early twenty.

1036
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 1: So if anybody out there can do anything, it would

1037
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 1: be somebody who's got six daughters that here raising.

1038
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, people ask me, you know Ranger school, you know

1039
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 6: eighty second Airborne, running a big company. What was the

1040
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:20,840
Speaker 6: hardest thing? Everything I said, Listen, when you've had sixteen

1041
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:23,839
Speaker 6: aged daughters, everything else seems easy after that.

1042
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 4: No doubt.

1043
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:26,839
Speaker 1: Dave, Thanks for all the work. We'll have you on again,

1044
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 1: but encourage Pennsylvanians to go check it out. You were

1045
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 1: going to be a great representative for them and hopefully

1046
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 1: you can flip the Senate.

1047
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 4: Thanks for the time.

1048
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 2: Thanks guys, It's Dave McCormick. All right, Buck, super Bowl

1049
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 2: is nearing. Are you going to watch the super Bowl?

1050
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 2: What is your plan for the super Bowl? This may

1051
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 2: be the least American thing I've said in a long time, Clay.

1052
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 2: I will probably be on a plane. However, I suppose

1053
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:55,360
Speaker 2: the plane may have, unless they have a technical issue,

1054
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 2: the ability to watch the Super Bowl. So I would

1055
00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 2: be watching it in the sky, all right, So I

1056
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:03,840
Speaker 2: will be watching in Las Vegas, I believe, which is

1057
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:04,919
Speaker 2: having the Super Bowl.

1058
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:06,360
Speaker 4: A lot of people out there.

1059
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be watching it on like a five y

1060
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 2: five monitor on the back of someone's seat. That's kicking

1061
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:12,839
Speaker 2: me in the face. Clay is going to be at

1062
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:13,720
Speaker 2: the super Bowl.

1063
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Speaker 4: So there you go.

1064
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Speaker 1: I will be at the super Bowl. I'll be doing

1065
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 1: the show Thursday Friday from Las Vegas. I think Monday

1066
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 1: from Las Vegas as well. And look, I can't wait.

1067
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,279
Speaker 1: I absolutely love the Super Bowl. I love all the festivities,

1068
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 1: all the fun. And be honest with you, I like

1069
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:29,840
Speaker 1: being able to make picks on the Super Bowl, like

1070
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Speaker 1: a lot of you are going to be doing. And

1071
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Speaker 1: right now you can go get signed up for prize picks.

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1074
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1075
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Speaker 1: And by the way, if you think my picks are

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