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Jed Michu the second. 84 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 2: Welcome to Morning Combat. 85 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 3: I've never missed in my life, BC, in my life, 86 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 3: but thanks for having me. This is gonna be really fun. 87 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 3: I'm excited to join the award winning MK. My first 88 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 3: and most important question, do I get to come accept 89 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 3: the Fighters Only Award with you guys? Now that I'm 90 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 3: officially part of the family when we go up on stage, 91 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 3: I get to be there now, right? 92 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 2: Yes? You do you? Fortunately, you have to stand in 93 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 2: line between Aaron Bronstetter and Shaquille MAJORI so good luck 94 00:04:59,040 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 2: with that. 95 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 3: I think I get take them both. 96 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 2: I'll let Shot talk and Danny Raves wearing cow outfits. 97 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 2: But I love our extended family here. Welcome to a Jed. 98 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:08,840 Speaker 2: You are a host of a number of podcasts. You 99 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 2: want to talk about any of them? Or should we? 100 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 2: You know? Should we? Should we just bang? 101 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 3: Towey? 102 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 2: What are we doing here? 103 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 3: I host No Bets Barred or I co host No 104 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 3: Bets Barred on Them a fighting podcast network. It's a 105 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 3: gambling podcast about m m A. Uh. It's fun. You 106 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 3: should watch it. It's weekly. And then I host Damn 107 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 3: They Were Good podcast, which is uh somewhat similar, at 108 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 3: least in core concept to y'all's resume reviews that you do. 109 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:35,119 Speaker 3: We just look back at fighters and and enjoy their 110 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 3: their wonderful careers that they've given us. So check that out. 111 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 3: Go to women may Fighting dot com. It's a terrific website. 112 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 3: And uh that's it. That's all the intro I need. 113 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 2: I didn't want to shout out out Thursday's fighting. You 114 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 2: have between the links beneath the links around the back 115 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 2: of the between the links. Yeah, with with with Mike 116 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 2: the back. Great show, have met it been on there 117 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 2: many times. Big fan of what you guys do over there. 118 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 2: Fast paced and wild like I love it. Quickly still undefeated, 119 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 2: still yeah, but that's questionable scoring regarding that it's kind 120 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 2: of like Club Swanson versus Deosh. 121 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 3: Say we got some question score. 122 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 2: A quickly morningcombat dot store. If you want to drink 123 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 2: coffee out of this fantastic mug, Jed, I'd love to 124 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 2: see you in a bomber jacket, by the way, or 125 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 2: a drug rug. You look like you could, you know, 126 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 2: fill that front pouch with a few a few Uh not. 127 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 3: Yet, you could talk me into a bomber jacket. Jane, 128 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 3: it's a little warm in August, August and Georgia, but 129 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 3: fall coming in. 130 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 2: Let's let's circle, it's actually classy and uh Yo want 131 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 2: a young j Check once said, of course that brett 132 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 2: O Komodo is the best looking at the major journalist. 133 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 2: I don't know where you fit in that list. I 134 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 2: don't care Luke thinks I want to bang all my 135 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 2: friends in MMA unless you can make one fifteen Jed, 136 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 2: this is not the direction I'm looking to go. I 137 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 2: am here to tell you though off the top, we 138 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:49,919 Speaker 2: got a great show. Let's hit it right here. Segment 139 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 2: number one our weekend review and topic number one. Yeah 140 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 2: it's UFC Vegas. They were back in the Apex over 141 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 2: the weekend in Las Vegas, a welterweight five round man 142 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 2: evd Vicente Luk scoring a unanimous decision over the always 143 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 2: tough thirty eight year old former lightweight champion Hafiel Do Sancho. 144 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 2: So what did Luke overcome here? Jed? How about a 145 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 2: one year layoff, a two fight losing skid, and of 146 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 2: course that very scary about with the career threatening brain bleed, 147 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 2: which Luk did say after the fight he thanked God 148 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 2: for essentially a miraculous recovery. Well, did we see a 149 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 2: new Luca or not? He wasn't the silent assassin and 150 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 2: the violent nature. He was very grappling heavy. So let's 151 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 2: start out right here, Jed Michu. The new Vicente Luke 152 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 2: a necessary evolution with this grinding style, or did you 153 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 2: see a guy a bit gun shy after some legitimately 154 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 2: scary turns leading up to this return? 155 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 3: Maybe both? I mean Lucaka came out basically and said 156 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 3: it afterwards, like that first round he was he was concerned, 157 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 3: which why wouldn't you be Your brain was bleeding like that. 158 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 3: I am not a medical doctor. Feels like when the 159 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 3: words Blaine, brain hemorrhage get brought in, something not all 160 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 3: that kosher is going down. So I think he certainly 161 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 3: was a little skittish. I'm not sure that this is 162 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 3: like a stylistic evolution of his though, Like really kind 163 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 3: of just felt like the fight played out that way, 164 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 3: Like he he came in and wasn't really looking to grapple, 165 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 3: but then Rdia was so intent on it, and every 166 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 3: time Rda would initiate, Luk was being able to turn 167 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:27,239 Speaker 3: him and have success, and it kind of just felt 168 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:30,559 Speaker 3: to me at least like, okay here, I'm just gonna 169 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 3: go with the flow here. This is a way forward, 170 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 3: not his typical most exciting you know, vacine. Luca is 171 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 3: an action fighter par excellence or whatever, but to get 172 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 3: back in the win column coming off a year and 173 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:48,439 Speaker 3: a serious medical scare. I'm reserving judgment on any grand 174 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 3: grand statements about where Luka is in his career, but 175 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 3: solid performance. I hope he doesn't become Luke the Grappler, 176 00:08:55,360 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 3: because he's super fun but very very very solid way. 177 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 3: If nothing, Yeah, this was. 178 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 2: A decent fight. It didn't have the fireworks spectaculars that 179 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 2: we thought. And while you reserved the right to not 180 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 2: necessarily need to give a definitive hot take, that's also 181 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 2: what you're paid for, Jed, so believe I'm gonna tee 182 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 2: up for a second with one. But I did want 183 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 2: to say Luke did score a career high eight takedowns, 184 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 2: and I think it was very clear stylistically that he 185 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 2: took advantage of the size advantage our da going back 186 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 2: to welterway, trying to reinvent himself and came in in 187 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 2: such sick killer shape. I mean, who is there anybody 188 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 2: in this game that we should respect more than our da. 189 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 2: I mean, he is the ultimate gangster, will fight anybody 190 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 2: any time. But I liked what Luk actually did leaning 191 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 2: on the strengths in this particular matchup. It's just look 192 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 2: at thirty one. This was a big hill to climb 193 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 2: to come back into a five rounmin event, all that time, off, 194 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 2: all the questions, two losses at the highest level, So 195 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 2: I do have to put you on the spot to 196 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 2: make a definitive statement. Did Luka show you enough to 197 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,199 Speaker 2: believe in what he said afterwards that he believes he's 198 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:56,679 Speaker 2: ready to put together a run, that he learned from 199 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 2: those two losses, and that maybe I don't want to 200 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 2: see heavy Luk. This fight was good, but it wasn't great. 201 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 2: But maybe do you think a merged style moving forward 202 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 2: for a guy who's always dangerous on the ground but 203 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 2: loves to walk into traffic could lead him back to 204 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 2: the top of the walsweight rankings. 205 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 3: No, he is not getting back to the top of 206 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 3: the welterweight rankings, and that's okay. I get it. He 207 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 3: wants to be that guy, like every fighter has those aspirations. 208 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 3: This is not gonna happen for him, and that's that's 209 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 3: not I don't mean that as like to offend him 210 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 3: or whatever, but we know what he is. Like he's 211 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 3: thirty one. Maybe he can make some late career super change. 212 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:38,959 Speaker 3: But two years ago or whatever, bal Mohammad rinsed him. 213 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 3: I g the fight was not competitive, and balal Mohammed 214 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 3: is very very good. Obviously, I'm not sure Balo Mohammad 215 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 3: is the best wrestler in this division, and if he is, 216 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 3: it's not by a lot. Like the top of this 217 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 3: division doesn't match up well for him. And then even 218 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 3: against the guys that you would think that maybe he 219 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 3: could make a Jeff Neil. I don't want to say 220 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 3: killed him because we know what happened with the brain 221 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 3: bleed again, but I just see no path forward for him. 222 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 3: This division is getting younger and better. He has a 223 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:12,439 Speaker 3: lot of miles on him, and he already failed to 224 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 3: climb the mountain basically, so unless something really dramatic happens, this. 225 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 2: Is where he is. 226 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 3: He's a top ten, top fifteen guy, usually incredibly exciting, 227 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 3: gonna win more than he loses, but he's probably never 228 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 3: going to fight for a title, much less win one 229 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 3: I'm a little surprised. 230 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 2: That the definitive statement out of you jed the guy's 231 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 2: thirty one, So he's got four years before Luke Thomas 232 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 2: drops that stat on him. How you can't win a 233 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 2: title at Weltz wait a below or above thirty five. 234 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 2: I don't know if he's mentioned that forty nine times, 235 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 2: but ad nausea will be a good hashtag to put 236 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 2: next to that. But when you look at this top 237 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 2: ten at welterweight, we certainly have future risers, hammers that 238 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 2: are coming from the standpoint of rockmanoff and obviously Muhammad's 239 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 2: on the doorstep of finally having his big moment. But 240 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 2: you've got the older guard that could be going that way, 241 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 2: meaning of Gilbert Burns wonder boy. You know, questions about 242 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 2: Sean Brady who's at number nine. There some solid guys 243 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 2: in and around that. Ariser and Ian Gary could have 244 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 2: a big moment this weekend. You don't think this stylistically, 245 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 2: adding this commitment to wrestling could be a thing that 246 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 2: I do, because look what if you asked me before 247 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 2: this in the past, what was keeping Vicente Luke from 248 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 2: the top, I would have told you that it was 249 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 2: he's too much in love with walking into traffic. He's 250 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 2: too much in love with making wars when at the 251 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 2: highest level that is not consistently how big fights are won. 252 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 2: I actually liked this evolution to his game and thought, 253 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 2: going twenty five hard minutes against a proven tough out 254 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 2: like this, it showed me something. Jed, you're not feeling 255 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 2: that moving forward at well? 256 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 3: Through it, I'm not And for two reasons. The first 257 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 3: one is, look Luke and his stat I'm not here 258 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 3: to say it's a bad stat. I think it's probably 259 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 3: a good stat. I'm less concerned in general with fighter 260 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 3: age than I am with with years, and Luca has 261 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 3: been fighting since he was like sixteen or whatever. This 262 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 3: is his fourteenth or fifteenth year of professional fighting. And 263 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 3: as you said in that come forward, let's just get 264 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 3: into wars style that is not conducive to a long career. 265 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 3: So being thirty one, like, yes, he is young relative, 266 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:15,319 Speaker 3: and frankly, coming into this weekend, I was surprised how 267 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 3: young he was. I thought he was much older. He's 268 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 3: got a lot of miles, He's got a lot of 269 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 3: city miles on him, and I don't that makes me 270 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 3: very questionable. And the second thing, here's a hot take 271 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 3: for you. Javio Dosandos's run at welterweight is entirely fraudulent, 272 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 3: or at least like eighty five percent fraudulent. He was 273 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 3: a lightweight champion. There is a very strong argument that 274 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:39,839 Speaker 3: at no point in the history of the world has 275 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 3: he been the best lightweight in the world, considering he 276 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 3: won the belt after Habib dominated him. But he was 277 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 3: a lightweight champion, got a one title defense, I think, 278 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 3: and this very very good top five ish lightweight. His 279 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 3: move up to welterweight sort of just like felt like 280 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 3: he had to because of where he was. Here is 281 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:02,599 Speaker 3: welterweight win BC because I looked it up beforehand to 282 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 3: make sure it wasn't crazy. When I think this, It's 283 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 3: Trek Saffadine, which at the time like was a fine win, 284 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 3: but does anyone care about that at all? Neil Magni, 285 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 3: which is still a quality win, but Neil Magne's not 286 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,959 Speaker 3: a top five, top ten dude. And Robbie Lawler, which 287 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 3: I guess at the time was better than it is now. 288 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 3: But Robbie Lawler is we know where Robbie is. And 289 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 3: then he lost to Covington. He lost to Eusman. He's 290 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 3: a very good fighter who took advantage of an opportunity 291 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 3: up a weight class. But we saw, like you said, 292 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 3: Luka just was way bigger than him, and so beating 293 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 3: a very very good fighter in Ardi Ardi is a 294 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 3: tremendous fighter. But did he beat him because his wrestling's 295 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 3: better or did he beat him because he had ten 296 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 3: to fifteen pounds and good enough wrestling that he could 297 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 3: just use that? 298 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 2: I don't know. 299 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 3: I need to see a lot more to think that 300 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 3: Vicini Luka is going to have a Charles Olavera Lake 301 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 3: late career renaissance to suddenly be this and that is 302 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 3: that would be the comp form, right, it's Chuckie Olives. 303 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 3: It's hey, you were the super fun fighter who lost 304 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 3: you know a lot as well, but were dynamic and 305 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 3: interesting and then you put it all together and now 306 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 3: you are making a historic run. That's what he has 307 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 3: to hope for. I need to see more than beating 308 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 3: a puffed up lightweight. 309 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 2: It's actually a fair breakdown. There is a fool's gold 310 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 2: element there in that size difference. I do want to 311 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 2: see how Luke responds if he is back in a firefight, 312 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 2: which you would expect inevitably he will be taking top 313 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 2: ten matchups. But happy for this comeback when hope the 314 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 2: health can stay there. Believe in miracles. I do, but 315 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 2: that is a scary situation. He's back, good Win. We'll 316 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 2: see where he goes moving forward. Jed, I do see 317 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 2: the UFC Tool one poster over your shoulder. Atlanta. I 318 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 2: happened to be there that night, but. 319 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 3: So it was it not? 320 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 2: Were you also at? 321 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 3: That was the great first night as the first event 322 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 3: I ever covered. 323 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 2: Oh wow, look at that? Look at that? Were you 324 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 2: also at the greatest night in my mma lifetom, which 325 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 2: also happened in Atlanta. I'm talking about UFC two three six, 326 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 2: I'm talking about Gastolon Matasania Fourier Holloway two. 327 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 3: Did you feel that insane night most insane night of 328 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 3: fights have ever ever been a part of. 329 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 2: Okay, So sometimes I liked it. Sometimes people make me 330 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 2: feel like, you know, I'm the only one that's trying 331 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 2: to tell people that Izzy gastolone was what was one 332 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 2: of the three greatest fights of the history of the support. 333 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 3: One hundred percent with you, Okay, And I don't I 334 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 3: don't know if it's just because I was there but 335 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 3: like I have there are It's unquestionably top five for me. 336 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 3: Like that fight was. I remember feeling like I emotionally 337 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 3: couldn't couldn't watch the main event after it, like I'm 338 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 3: not ready to do this. 339 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 2: I'm there with you, Thank you very much. Let's keep 340 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 2: going on this usc Vegas card. That call mean event 341 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 2: we had, we had some stuff happen. Cobb Swanson was 342 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 2: back taking on Hakeem Duo too. They went three rounds, 343 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 2: two rounds to one on all three judges scorecards in 344 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 2: the end in favor of Club Swanson. Why is this 345 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 2: an issue? Even Cub admitted afterwards he didn't think he 346 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 2: won the fight, although he also heades it by saying 347 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:09,640 Speaker 2: he is his toughest critic. We love seeing Cub Swanson 348 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 2: there with the wife and kids, and it seemed like 349 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 2: this could be this resurgent win for him at age 350 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:18,399 Speaker 2: thirty eight, except the internet kind of blew up afterwards. 351 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 2: So look, we have this debate on the show a 352 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 2: lot jed when it comes to decisions A lot of 353 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 2: times in boxing to be fair, where we have to 354 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 2: try to pull through the crap and say, hey, guys, 355 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 2: I know you want to yell robbery, but it was 356 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 2: actually closer than you think. Was this a robbery? Was 357 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 2: this just a bad scorecard? Or do you know combat 358 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 2: sports squitter just need things to rail against. How do 359 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 2: you weigh in on what happened here with Swanson? 360 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 3: Deuoto not a robbery for two reasons, but there's an 361 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 3: argument for it being a robbery for one. So the 362 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 3: two reasons it's not a robbery, The first is it's 363 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 3: comptter to fight like I think holistically, a scorecard of 364 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 3: twenty nine to twenty eight for Cub Swanson is not awful. 365 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 3: I scored it twenty nine eight, do Wado. But if 366 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 3: you scored it twenty nine to twenty eight for Swanson, 367 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 3: think that's fine, right? I think that that is an 368 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 3: acceptable scorecard. The way those scorecards happened was pretty bad. 369 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 3: I pretty much disagree fundamentally with the judges' scorecards that 370 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:19,679 Speaker 3: they offered here. But ultimately it's not a robbery because 371 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 3: does anyone really care? Like love Cubs Swanson an all 372 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 3: time great, one of the most you know, all time 373 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 3: action guy, like a dude who's not gonna get the 374 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 3: flowers he deserves in his career, but a guy who 375 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:37,640 Speaker 3: people will remember fondly when he exits the game. He's 376 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 3: not making a title run. This win and this loss 377 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 3: isn't like massively substantive in any real way. And the 378 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 3: same thing with Dowado, like shown some promise, but he's 379 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 3: probably not getting there at this point. So if this 380 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:51,160 Speaker 3: were a main event and a title fight, I would 381 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:55,439 Speaker 3: have a lot more scrutiny for what went on here. Instead, 382 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 3: it's just a competitive fight and these scorecards are reasonable. Again, 383 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 3: I can't believe I'm about to say this. This is 384 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 3: gonna be the hottest take I've ever said in my life. 385 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 3: Brian Campbell, I think Saladomatto is probably the one who 386 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 3: got the scorecard right. If you're gonna go for Cub Swanson, 387 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 3: his scorecard is the appropriate one of giving Dowa do 388 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 3: the first round and then giving Cubby the back to 389 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 3: Cub clearly wins the third round. I've seen most people 390 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 3: seem to think that the first round is a swing round. 391 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 3: I thought that round was very very clearly in favor 392 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 3: of Dawadu, and the second round is the one that 393 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 3: I'm I'm open to it. I thought Dawadu did more, 394 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 3: but it was a competitive enough round and that flurry 395 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 3: at the end where it looked like Swanson at least 396 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 3: optically was winning. I'm okay with you giving him, but 397 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:45,159 Speaker 3: this isn't a robbery because it's fine. It's like, who's 398 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 3: really upset about this other than friends and relations of 399 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 3: a team Dawadu. 400 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 2: I mean that's a fair point. I hopefully it doesn't 401 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 2: lead Duado, you know, into eventually getting cut where this 402 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 2: could have been a difference maker, because look, I scored 403 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 2: it two to one for Duado. I gave Cub the 404 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:00,959 Speaker 2: third round like you did. But I do agree that 405 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 2: first round there is a case there for Cob. It's 406 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 2: not ridiculous. Two of the three judges gave Cub rounds 407 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 2: one in three. See, I think I think the second 408 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:12,640 Speaker 2: round there's a much better case for Cobb. I think 409 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 2: the first round to me at the end of round two, 410 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 2: so you'd have to lean heavily into that last punch basically, yeah, but. 411 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 3: Like I get the optics from that, Like in the 412 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 3: first round, by almost any scoring metric, it seems that 413 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:27,880 Speaker 3: Dowd you should have won it, like, particularly because Cub 414 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 3: Cub gets busted up at the end of that round. 415 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 3: Like the visuals alone or one man is bleeding and 416 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 3: one man isn't. They landed similar amount of strikes. But 417 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 3: I don't I really don't get scoring the first round 418 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:41,640 Speaker 3: for cub. If you scored the second round for him, 419 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 3: that's fine. I have no issues with it. Scoring the 420 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 3: first round feels bad to me. 421 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 2: I don't know. The closest fight I thought they got 422 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 2: it wrong. Not a robbery. You're right on. Look, does 423 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 2: the value of it truly matter? Hopefully not in terms 424 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 2: of anyone's job employment. But I kind of like seeing 425 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 2: that emotional afterwards though, talk about Look, I love it 426 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 2: anytime fighters are real about the real life pressures, like 427 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,679 Speaker 2: go into this game about living up to your your reputation, 428 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 2: which club talked about about. In this case, you know, 429 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 2: he had his wife in beautiful young children right there 430 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 2: in the at zuck position, cage side, and he basically said, look, 431 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 2: you know, sooner or later they're gonna have to see this, 432 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 2: so let's just do this. And luckily in this case, 433 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 2: daddy didn't get you know, beat up. You know, you 434 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 2: can question those parenting skills, although it seems it doesn't. 435 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 2: It seem like in boxing it's more normal tradition to 436 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 2: bring kids put him in the front row and just 437 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 2: be like, this is what dad does. I mean, we 438 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 2: don't see that as much in MMA, but I did 439 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 2: like to see, even though I didn't agree with him 440 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 2: get the win. I like to see Club. I liked 441 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 2: to seeing Club get the win and then be so emotional. 442 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 2: Like you said, he's one of those underrated warriors. He 443 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 2: does have a fight that is in the Hall of Fame. 444 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 2: Don't call him a hall of famer though, and on 445 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 2: my show, but yeah, it was what it was. 446 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 3: I don't know, uh, I it does feel, at least 447 00:21:57,560 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 3: in my you're the boxing guy, BC, I'm the boxing guy. 448 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 3: It does feel in my exposure to boxing that they 449 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,880 Speaker 3: don't seem to have any issues bringing children to events, 450 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 3: which I don't. We could, we could delve into the 451 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 3: moral complications there. I'm not sure I have. 452 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 2: I think it's a cultural thing, well certain cultures. We're 453 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 2: boxing is literally sport number two besides beyond soccer. It's 454 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 2: it's just sort of like part of life. 455 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, And I don't I don't disagree, Like, it 456 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:28,679 Speaker 3: doesn't seem ridiculous that you couldn't bring your child to 457 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 3: an MMA fight like one. They're probably not paying attention 458 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 3: right like anywhere at they're probably not going to be 459 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:38,199 Speaker 3: super focused on it. And two like this this is 460 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 3: the job, Like you just explained to your kid what 461 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 3: you're doing and can all sort of settle in. Uh, 462 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 3: maybe that's it though maybe maybe cub bringing his family 463 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 3: sort of swayed. I don't was Ron McCarthy was one 464 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,160 Speaker 3: of the judges. Maybe his his family's presence there got 465 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 3: him got him over with the judges. And and that's 466 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 3: a great hack. That's not bad on him. 467 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,439 Speaker 2: It's worked many times in crowded arena. Was when the 468 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 2: more popular fighter can sometimes sway the judge just by 469 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 2: the crowd reaction. The other big bang on this largelyish. 470 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 2: I didn't love this car top to bottom a lot more. 471 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 2: And have you seen this shit in terms of the 472 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 2: big high lightel but the other big story Khalil Rowntree Junior, 473 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 2: how about this a light? Have youweight? Four straight wins? 474 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 2: Three by ko? You had Chris Stalkis making a cut 475 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,159 Speaker 2: down to two hundred and five pounds looking to snap 476 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 2: a three fight losing skid. Instead he got snapped. It 477 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:32,439 Speaker 2: was a vicious finish on a straight left cross. So 478 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,439 Speaker 2: here's the real question. Here's the hot question, Jed, is 479 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 2: it about time we take Khalil Rowntree Junior serious to light? 480 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 2: Have youweight? 481 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 3: Ooh, that's a good question. And I don't know you 482 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,959 Speaker 3: should take him serious if you're fighting him, because he 483 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 3: is pretty good at fist fighting right like. He he 484 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 3: hits real hard, he does it. He's not a Wilton like. 485 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 3: He's not going to go anywhere. I don't know if 486 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,679 Speaker 3: we should take him seriously as a title contender. That 487 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 3: might be a bridge too far for me. And it's 488 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 3: it's not a it's not a condemnation of him, but 489 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,120 Speaker 3: what am I to gain from watching him knock out 490 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 3: Chris daucas The most expected outcome of this fight the 491 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,239 Speaker 3: I putt a bet on clear rountry by Ko at 492 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,719 Speaker 3: minus one forty, so it was a negative number to 493 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 3: get that. That's the outcome we expected. It frankly looked 494 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 3: pretty similar to what we expected. And I just don't 495 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 3: know what how much credence to give knocking out Chris Daukas, 496 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 3: who has been knocked out three times in her own 497 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,400 Speaker 3: was cutting down a weight to a harder weight class, 498 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 3: So this I don't know how to respond to this fight. Basically, 499 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 3: this is what I thought. I'm still pretty in on 500 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 3: watching Kleil Rountree fight anytime he does it, because somebody's 501 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 3: getting knuckle dusted, like one way or the other things 502 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 3: are going to get going. But I don't This fight 503 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 3: tells me nothing about how Khalil Rowntree will do against 504 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 3: Anthony Smith or Jan Belohovich or whatever. Like, I gotta 505 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 3: see those fights to take him seriously as like a 506 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 3: title threat, but as a top ten, top twelve. Dude, 507 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,400 Speaker 3: you should have been taking him seriously a long time ago. 508 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 3: If you hadn't already, well, you got to. 509 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 2: Take us power seriously always, And obviously that was a 510 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 2: beautiful finish. But I did like overall the poise. I 511 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 2: think he's coming together in terms of confidence and figuring 512 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 2: out how to be the best of himself. But I 513 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 2: do agree with you, although it sounds like you're walking 514 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 2: onto anyone's campsite and just pissing on their fire with 515 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,919 Speaker 2: all these hot takes, you might be right here, Chris Daucas. 516 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 2: I'm not sure with what is that four straight knockout defeats. 517 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 2: He's in a tough spot in terms of future job 518 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 2: employment with the UFC after this, but a nice win 519 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 2: for Rountree. One thing he did say afterwards was like, look, 520 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 2: give me a top ten guy. More importantly, give me 521 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 2: a man event. I want to test myself with five rounds. 522 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,159 Speaker 2: Let's find out where I'm at. You just said it. 523 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 2: Let's find out. Let's see him against the Anthony Smith. 524 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 2: That level of guys in the middle of this top 525 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 2: ten to see. But a big win for Khalil In 526 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 2: terms of a big highlight, there was nice to see 527 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,159 Speaker 2: a topic number two and as I mentioned again, have 528 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 2: you seen this shit? Love more on this UFC card. 529 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 2: Bellachour two ninety eight went down in the MMA hotbed 530 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:06,919 Speaker 2: of South Dakota. Another home clubs opportunity here for former 531 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 2: interim walterweight titleist Logan Story, who probably tore up South 532 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 2: Dakota on Friday nights. You know what I'm saying, Like, 533 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 2: we'll go to the local car show at the McDonald's. 534 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 2: That guy's probably just just slaying left and right. But 535 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 2: here's the deal. One side that lost Super Walmart Now yeah, 536 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 2: indeed indeed right one sided rematch title loss to Yarslav Amasov, 537 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 2: losing fifty to forty five on all three scorecards. But 538 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 2: he got the comeback win he needed here facing the 539 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 2: rising Brennan Ward, who we know his story recovering from 540 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 2: the years out of the sport, the deep drug addiction, 541 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,919 Speaker 2: and had got that big win on CBS against Sabahu Masi. 542 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 2: This was an interesting fight in terms of Wards wrestling 543 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 2: takedown defense in the first round, but once Story was 544 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,400 Speaker 2: able to secure him there as you're watching the highlights 545 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 2: in round two, the ground and pound was delivered and 546 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 2: referee Jason Herzog, as you see right there, jumping in 547 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 2: to stop it, Twitter did blow up. Brendan Ward was apoplectic, 548 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 2: as Moros said, great use of that term right there. 549 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 2: But all in all, here, Jed, did Story show you 550 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:15,159 Speaker 2: some real evolution here? Robbie Lawler in his corner. We 551 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,400 Speaker 2: know that the talent at kill Cliff that you can 552 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 2: get in South Florida. Did Story show you enough evolution 553 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 2: to lead you to believe he's still in this welterweight 554 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 2: title picture? 555 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 3: Yes and no. So I don't want to be a 556 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 3: guy who's negative, because all I've been doing is a 557 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 3: negative BC. 558 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 2: But that's who you are. I feel your anger, Anakin, 559 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,120 Speaker 2: you know I'm. 560 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:40,880 Speaker 3: Not a very positive guy. Look, this didn't this didn't 561 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 3: make me think he's beaten yarlslav Amasov. If that's the 562 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 3: crux of the question here, No, I saw nothing there. 563 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 2: What is good? 564 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 3: The positive here showed to killer instinct which has been 565 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 3: a bit lacking. Like you look at his last like 566 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 3: five fights or something, they've almost all been decisions, some 567 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 3: questionable that he even won those. So when he got 568 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 3: top position and could take advantage of it, we saw 569 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 3: some real aggression out of him, which is a great thing. 570 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 3: Like that's you need that if you are going to 571 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 3: be an elite, elite level fighter. Here's the thing, BC, 572 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 3: I don't know if you know this, because I thought 573 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 3: I was crazy. I was covering this event, and I 574 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:18,879 Speaker 3: don't know if you watched this fight live, if you 575 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 3: came to it after, if you notice this. 576 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 2: I watched every fight this weekend this morning. So that's 577 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 2: all you need to know. 578 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,159 Speaker 3: Okay, Hey, that's waited to hear homework. Proud of you 579 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 3: for that. So while this fight is going on in 580 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 3: the second round, when he gets taken down, I thought 581 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,360 Speaker 3: that it looked like he brendan Ward posts his arm 582 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 3: out and he immediately like winced in pain, and it 583 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 3: was like, oh, he probably just jacked up his elbow 584 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 3: and then when story's on top, Brendan Ward just starts 585 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 3: screaming at it him the whole time. 586 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 2: It's like, stand up you. 587 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 3: I don't know what words I'm allowed or not allowed 588 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 3: to say on this project. Stand up you, obscenity. I 589 00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 3: have one freakin' awe arm just shouting at him before 590 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 3: where he gets finished. So I left that being like, oh, 591 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 3: he hurt himself in the takedown. Actually you go on 592 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 3: brynan Ward's Instagram, a message from his wife basically reveals 593 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 3: that he ruined his elbow a couple of weeks before 594 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 3: the fight and just did it anyway. So I don't 595 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 3: know how much credit to give Logan Storlely for beating 596 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 3: a one armed man. How much credit did we give 597 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 3: al Jamaine Sterling for beating the one armed TJ. Dillashaw 598 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 3: or was the dude's name in the Fugitive though I 599 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 3: guess he actually lost the fight to the one armed man. Still, 600 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 3: I don't know what you give credit to for beating 601 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 3: a one armed man like that. I will say again, 602 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 3: showed great killer instinct and you can only fight the 603 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 3: dudes who are in there with you. But beating Brennan 604 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 3: Ward does not make me think any more about your 605 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 3: chances against Yaroslav Amasov, who is one of the very 606 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 3: best walterweights in the world. 607 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 2: I mean that's kind of fair. Ward can be a 608 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 2: very feaster or famine, all or nothing type guy. He's 609 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 2: gonna go in there and get hit and throw bombs. 610 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 2: But I'll say this about Ward, even with one arm, 611 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 2: it was a poised, almost patient attack. He had good 612 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 2: moments with a power jab. Like I mentioned, the takedown 613 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 2: defense wasn't bad. In the first round, he did succumb 614 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 2: there to that ground and pound and got finished. Although 615 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 2: he certainly argued it, I don't know it was an 616 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 2: emotional kind of big win for Storrely. You saw that celebration. 617 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 2: I did see a turn of the corner that I 618 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 2: needed to see from story. You mentioned it in terms 619 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 2: of the missionesositive, but I just saw I don't know, 620 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 2: I saw a guy who looked a little bit more 621 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 2: comfortable on the feet than I'm used to. Even with 622 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 2: him outstriking Nieman Gracie in that five round fight, I 623 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 2: mean that was a sloppy striking battle. I haven't seen 624 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 2: a lot of what I loved in story when he 625 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 2: does step up to the highest level. Though I really 626 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 2: respect him, I don't know I saw a bit of 627 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 2: that evolution enough to be Almoslav No. I mean, the 628 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 2: first fight was close, and it was one of the 629 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 2: better fights in Belto history to be fair, in terms 630 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 2: of the back and forth on the ground and the 631 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 2: reversals that wasn't there in the rematch. Amoslav came back 632 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 2: after the long layoff and showed us exactly where he's at. Yeah, 633 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 2: I get what you're saying. There's some elements are you. 634 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 2: Were you okay with the stoppage because Jason Herzog went 635 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 2: on Twitter and was, you know, fighting back at all 636 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 2: the angry beds who lost their wager because of this. 637 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 2: The stoppage was kosher in your eyes? 638 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 3: Right, who's upset with that stoppage? 639 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 2: Twitter? 640 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 3: Okay? What was getting laid into? Like that's insane to 641 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 3: be upset with that stoppage? Like I know he complained, 642 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 3: but he's a fighter. They awe his do that and 643 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 3: like that. That's insane to be upset with that one. 644 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 3: That was very clearly a fine stoppage. 645 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:26,959 Speaker 2: Indeed, that was the main event there. There was some 646 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 2: other decent moments around the card. Valentine Moldowski had a 647 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 2: nice bounce back whin there beating Big Steve Maori after 648 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 2: the first fight ended in a foul. But I want 649 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 2: to hit some other big Belatoor key headlines from the 650 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 2: last week here. They announced that big one there, Belatore 651 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 2: three hundred. It's gonna go down October seventh, four title 652 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 2: fights up top the marquee. But before we get into that, 653 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 2: did you see that poster that that originally showed Cyborg 654 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 2: versus Zingana on it and it had a phrase what 655 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 2: was the phrasing? I gotta look it up. What was 656 00:31:58,440 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 2: the phrasing that was in questionnaire? 657 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 4: Uh? 658 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 3: Final if look it up because I. 659 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 2: Don't remember, at the end of the line or something 660 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 2: like that. 661 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 3: Finally it's over. 662 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 2: It began to fuel the potential rumor mill notion that Belatour, 663 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 2: which knows you know, all cards on deck. We know 664 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 2: that Paramount, the parent parent company of this show, is 665 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 2: looking to sell. Will PFL buy it? We're not really sure. 666 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 2: John Ashnash did go harden the paint on the idea 667 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 2: that it ends here. Thank you to Long Island, luke Tha. 668 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 2: The prusha it ends here was on the poster. A 669 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 2: lot of people said, well, as Beltore three hundred the 670 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 2: last Bellatore cardon history. Scott Koker at the press conference 671 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 2: shot down John Nash and basically said, now we're already 672 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 2: planning three oh one and three oh two, so as 673 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 2: it stands right now for Bellatore three hundred, here, let 674 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 2: me call up these matchups to give you a perfect 675 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 2: look at this main event. Of course, Ryan Bader defending 676 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 2: the heavyweight title in the rematch with Lenton Vissel. You've 677 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 2: got Cyborg versus in Gano for the women's featherweight title. 678 00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 2: Usman Normaga Medoff welcomes former champion Brent Premiss, and then 679 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 2: you've got Liz Carmous defending her title against the former 680 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 2: champion and friend, Alima Leay McFarlane. How would you grade 681 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 2: this given the historical nature of this Belatore three hundred card. 682 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 3: Well, one, can we just talk about how funny that 683 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 3: poster is, because the poster is legitimately hilarious that it 684 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 3: ends here, because I can, like you can squint your 685 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 3: eyes and see what Bellatore's saying there, like, oh yeah, 686 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 3: they're talking about the Cyborg Zinganu like long brewing rivalry 687 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,479 Speaker 3: that has hasn't come to fruition. But then you look 688 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 3: at and you're like, except for that's the comin event. 689 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 3: When does anybody ever ever put the catch law or 690 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 3: a thing about the comin event? That's that's just not 691 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 3: how it goes. So it's it's an incredible poster. I 692 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 3: don't think Bellatore's done it three hundred just because we're 693 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 3: not close enough to a to a selling deal at 694 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 3: this juncture that they're gonna at least continue forward and 695 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 3: finish out the lightweight tournament or what the Grand Prix. 696 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 3: So I think it's all sort of the same. But 697 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 3: it's been incredible, Like four days for Bellatore in that regard, 698 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 3: this is going to be interesting. Four title fights BC, 699 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 3: that is a lot of title fights. I remember a 700 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,279 Speaker 3: few years ago when we were starting to see a 701 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 3: couple of three title fights. I think Bellator did it 702 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 3: on one of their events, A couple of UFC events 703 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 3: have done it, And the question is like, is this 704 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 3: going to be like those old school days where suddenly 705 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:31,280 Speaker 3: you run late because all three go to decision. Adding 706 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 3: a fourth in really really muddles it and creates an 707 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 3: opportunity for this to be one very long night of fights. 708 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 3: But look, it's your three hundred events. Go big, do 709 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 3: something special, do something splashy. Four title fights, it's something 710 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 3: for a lot of people. So I will very much 711 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 3: be interested in this, Like I will absolutely be watching 712 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 3: this one, and this will probably be the best event 713 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 3: that weekend, so that'll be good. 714 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you did tease the potential if the entertainment 715 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 2: value doesn't line up, that we could get twenty consecutive 716 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:02,799 Speaker 2: title rounds. That's what you're trying to say. 717 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:08,720 Speaker 3: It would be hilarious and very belatore for that to happen. 718 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,319 Speaker 3: And if you just look at these fights too, man 719 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:16,319 Speaker 3: like Ryan Bader letting the Cell feels extremely likely to 720 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 3: go twenty five minutes. Cyborg's in Ghanu Like, Cyborg's been 721 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:25,320 Speaker 3: pretty decision heavy lately, so that could I would suspect 722 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:29,799 Speaker 3: that gets finished. But Busman Brent Premise, honestly, I have 723 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,360 Speaker 3: no idea what to expect as far as a finish. 724 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 3: Premis looked very good in his most recent fight, and 725 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 3: Carlush McFarland very likely is going twenty five so we 726 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,840 Speaker 3: could be in for what's that two hundred minutes of 727 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 3: fighting something like that. 728 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 2: We'll see how that plays out. A lot of the 729 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 2: big names It had just recently appeared on that Belatur 730 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,400 Speaker 2: rise In two supercard and then AJ mcckee pull out 731 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 2: with injury. We know Patricio Pippole is expected to be 732 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:57,359 Speaker 2: out long with injury, so we'll see how that plays out. 733 00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 2: But I like the effort at least putting four title 734 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,320 Speaker 2: fights there to close on Belatour. How about this headline? 735 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:06,440 Speaker 2: Light heavyweight champion for Nemcoff has said publicly he's likely 736 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 2: going to vacate his title and move up to heavyweight. Now, 737 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 2: when I ask you, how do you like his chances? 738 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 2: I certainly have to hedge that with the notion that 739 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,440 Speaker 2: Ryan Vader is currently the heavyweight champion and Vadem Memcoff 740 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:23,920 Speaker 2: stopped Ryan Vader pretty decisively to win that title. But 741 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 2: in general, in Bellator nemclof, who's arguably the best light 742 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,359 Speaker 2: heavyweight in the world at this moment, this is an 743 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,319 Speaker 2: interesting choice to do this. Now, do you like his 744 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 2: chances to have that same success one division higher? 745 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:41,880 Speaker 3: I mean in Bellatore for sure. Well, in heavyweight is 746 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 3: just a much worse division than light heavyweight, which is 747 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,279 Speaker 3: also a bad division. But if you move up in 748 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,919 Speaker 3: you're a person of means and talent, You're probably gonna 749 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,279 Speaker 3: have a good amount of success. There may be an 750 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 3: upper bound to it, but that's frankly more likely in 751 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 3: the UFC, where like the top heavyweights are just extremely 752 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 3: good and very large. If you don't have both, you 753 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 3: can't compete in that realm. But like, is Steve Mawory, 754 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,960 Speaker 3: Are you picking Steve Mawory to beat the tam He 755 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 3: just Steve Mowry just got tackled, tackled, laid on by 756 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:16,319 Speaker 3: Valentine Moldowski for fifteen minutes. And that's sort of an 757 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,760 Speaker 3: interesting wrinkle to this. I don't is nim Kov still 758 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 3: attached to Fade or Team. I don't know if he 759 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,319 Speaker 3: like I know he works with att so I'm not 760 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 3: really sure if he's still in the Fade or team 761 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:29,560 Speaker 3: or what a how Valentine Moldowski would sort of fit 762 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:33,240 Speaker 3: into this, But I would pick Nimkov to beat Brian 763 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 3: Bader and Linton Vessel and probably all Like if you 764 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:42,040 Speaker 3: look at the Bellator rankings, Daniel James is tapped in heavyweight, 765 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 3: like I mean, can. 766 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 2: Make a his quickness in striking would be a would 767 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,880 Speaker 2: be a more big, big time problem up there, But 768 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:51,560 Speaker 2: I don't know. We'll see if Rian Vader holds on 769 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 2: too that title against Vsel. It has been a great round. 770 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,120 Speaker 2: I mean, are you do you subscribe to that notion 771 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:56,880 Speaker 2: that Nimkov could be the best to a fiver on 772 00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 2: the planet Right now? 773 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:02,400 Speaker 3: I think that it's very possible. I have pretty doggedly 774 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:08,480 Speaker 3: stuck with Ybrahashka, and I personally think that outside of accomplishment, 775 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,280 Speaker 3: Magna Manenklaye is the best two of fiver in the world. 776 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,680 Speaker 3: But to me, it's a three horse race between those 777 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:17,439 Speaker 3: two and Fadem Nimkov. If you pick any of those three, 778 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:19,239 Speaker 3: I don't have an issue with it. And now I 779 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:23,399 Speaker 3: guess Alex Pereira's putting himself in the mix as well. 780 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 3: But yeah, those those three dudes, if you think any 781 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:31,200 Speaker 3: of them are the top guy, I cannot argue against you. 782 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, you might be right. By the way she fade 783 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,680 Speaker 2: or told Ariel on your network that he wants to box. 784 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:37,960 Speaker 2: Come on, I don't know, come on. 785 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,759 Speaker 3: Oh BC, you're under selling it. He didn't just say 786 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,120 Speaker 3: he wants to box. He said he wants to box. 787 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,000 Speaker 3: Mike Tyson get it. You got to give him the whole, 788 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:49,520 Speaker 3: the whole enchiladity here he wants to box Mike Tyson, 789 00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,439 Speaker 3: and I don't know how likely that is. I don't 790 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,880 Speaker 3: know that Mike Tyson is trying to box, But like, 791 00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 3: wouldn't it just be very combat sportsy in twenty twenty 792 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 3: three to see that fight get made. 793 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:05,680 Speaker 2: I mean, isn't Jeff Monson boxing old like tek Taroff 794 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:07,680 Speaker 2: coming up? I mean, it's not really happening. 795 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,400 Speaker 3: I have no idea if that's true. 796 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:12,759 Speaker 2: That's true, and they're fighting in some form in their 797 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,160 Speaker 2: fifties in Russia, but yeah, I don't know. 798 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,479 Speaker 3: Of course it's in Russia. Just that's an insane thing. 799 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:22,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm done. I've said this before. We had a 800 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:26,000 Speaker 2: nice seaton and that the whole celebrity crossover boxing bubble 801 00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,320 Speaker 2: is not dead. In fact, Jake Paul and Nate Diaz 802 00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,760 Speaker 2: surprised me on being that interesting at least of a fight. 803 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:34,760 Speaker 2: Bill Datis might box logan Paul. 804 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:37,400 Speaker 3: Don't say it. It's not happening. 805 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,879 Speaker 2: Okay, it's probably not gonna happen. My point is there's 806 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:41,920 Speaker 2: still some air left in the balloon on that. But 807 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:46,920 Speaker 2: in general, this whole idea of old guy fights influencer fights. 808 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:50,640 Speaker 2: It was great pandemic wise, it was great when boxing 809 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,560 Speaker 2: couldn't get in first gear. But with where we're at 810 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:55,680 Speaker 2: this year, I'm done. I'm done with this. I'm done 811 00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:57,840 Speaker 2: with this. You can pull me in. I got pulled 812 00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,680 Speaker 2: into Jake versus Nate. It wasn't bad, got pulled in. 813 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:02,759 Speaker 2: But I don't need fad Or Tyson. I don't need 814 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:03,240 Speaker 2: this stuff. 815 00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:07,080 Speaker 3: Moving forward, we should okay BC, but what if we 816 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:10,240 Speaker 3: what if we do fad Or versus Anderson in boxing? 817 00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:12,080 Speaker 3: Is that? Is that? Really? 818 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,239 Speaker 2: I mean? I was on the record for a long 819 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,600 Speaker 2: time saying Belator should have backed up a truck to 820 00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,920 Speaker 2: and to have him fight fad Or for Fador's final 821 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,920 Speaker 2: fight on CBS and make it a massive thing. But 822 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:26,600 Speaker 2: uh yeah, yeah, all right, let's keep it going. 823 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,399 Speaker 3: Watch every day that Look, there are exceptions to this 824 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,680 Speaker 3: rule or j Paul Fate or Jake Paul. 825 00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:37,359 Speaker 2: Uh moving on, Speaking by the way, I one time 826 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,880 Speaker 2: said what about Jake Paul boxing and Ganu on PFL 827 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,000 Speaker 2: and people wanted to like throw me out of the show. 828 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:47,040 Speaker 3: I I also made that joke. It would be really funny. 829 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,120 Speaker 2: Let's go to topic number three, speaking of real boxing, 830 00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:53,280 Speaker 2: it was a sneaky good boxing weekend over the weekend, 831 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,520 Speaker 2: and I did force you, for your participation on the show, 832 00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,800 Speaker 2: to sit in there and watch it, Jed. So let's 833 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,520 Speaker 2: talk about it. Anthony josh was supposed to be rematching 834 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:05,080 Speaker 2: Dillian White in an interesting fight that would have potentially 835 00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:09,359 Speaker 2: set up a Deontay Wilder matchup. Well, then Dillion White 836 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,400 Speaker 2: took every drug that Durell Big Baby Miller wasn't using. 837 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,760 Speaker 2: But how about this, how about filling in the Nordic 838 00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,279 Speaker 2: Nightmare Robert Hellenius on one week notice. He had just 839 00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:21,839 Speaker 2: want to fight against a no hoper in Finland, And Jed, 840 00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,000 Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw that video of that highlight, 841 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,040 Speaker 2: but Hellennius beat up a guy in the back wall 842 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:28,719 Speaker 2: in that arena was just all stone. It was like 843 00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:32,160 Speaker 2: they fought in like a well or something. It was weird. Anyway, 844 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:37,200 Speaker 2: we're back in the UK, Joshua takes on Helenius and 845 00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:40,359 Speaker 2: if you only watched the highlight of the seventh round 846 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:44,160 Speaker 2: seventh round finish, it was a spectacular one punch knockout 847 00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:47,120 Speaker 2: from Joshua, who set it up beautifully with a jab 848 00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:50,560 Speaker 2: and landed a looping right hand that knocked Helenius cold. 849 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:53,399 Speaker 2: If you remember, Hellenius fought Deontay Wilder and while there's 850 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,479 Speaker 2: comeback over the past year and got KOed in round one, 851 00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,759 Speaker 2: But there is a deeper story about this performance from 852 00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:03,399 Speaker 2: a and a second fight under trainer Derek James. There 853 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,839 Speaker 2: was a lot of criticism even from the announced team 854 00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:09,880 Speaker 2: on his own leading up to the ko, about AJ's output, 855 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:15,080 Speaker 2: about his attitude, about his confidence level. Really the sustained 856 00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,720 Speaker 2: sort of narratives that have come out of not only 857 00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 2: AJ's upset lost Andrew Ruiz back in the day that 858 00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,360 Speaker 2: he did redeem against a fatter version of Andy in 859 00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,799 Speaker 2: their rematch, but the two losses to Alexander Usik, the 860 00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,600 Speaker 2: meltdown in the ring afterwards. Look, it has not been 861 00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:31,720 Speaker 2: a great run publicly for AJ. Even with the bounce 862 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 2: back win against Jermaine Franklin. There was a lot to 863 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:38,040 Speaker 2: pick a part in that jed. You check this fight out. 864 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,560 Speaker 2: Can this Anthony Joshua who called out Deontay Wilder afterwards 865 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:43,680 Speaker 2: and wants to fight him in January and Saudi Arabia 866 00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:48,839 Speaker 2: for trillions of dollars? Is this guy back? Is this 867 00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:53,520 Speaker 2: guy who he once was? Is AJ still in play 868 00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,600 Speaker 2: to potentially take back over this entire division. 869 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,000 Speaker 3: Well, look, you're the boxing you're gonna have to take 870 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:03,040 Speaker 3: Tell me if he is who who he was, because 871 00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,000 Speaker 3: this sort of just feels like who he is, right Like, 872 00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:10,399 Speaker 3: I'm willing to hear the arguments that's he's with new 873 00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:14,359 Speaker 3: team and was working some things out, and lord knows 874 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,640 Speaker 3: the commentary team was trying to make that case while 875 00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:21,560 Speaker 3: they were watching him tepidly pauw at Bobby Hell for 876 00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:26,799 Speaker 3: six rounds or whatever. But this didn't look that. This 877 00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,000 Speaker 3: didn't look like a guy who's going to captivate the 878 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:32,240 Speaker 3: masses other than walking off the bus. Looks great getting 879 00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:36,640 Speaker 3: off the bus. Just outstanding physique, looks like my ideal 880 00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:41,280 Speaker 3: image of a professional boxer when you see him standing there, like, oh, 881 00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:43,160 Speaker 3: that man should be very very good at this. 882 00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,120 Speaker 2: He's a video game heavyweight. Look at him. I mean, 883 00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:46,560 Speaker 2: he's an Adonis. It's ridiculous. 884 00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:52,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, just carved from stone like unbelievable, like the length 885 00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:55,120 Speaker 3: in all the right places, and then he was just 886 00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,160 Speaker 3: pawing at it. Again, not a big boxing guy. So 887 00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:03,279 Speaker 3: my large exposure to to Bob Olaneus here is him 888 00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:06,880 Speaker 3: getting just sent to the shadow realm by Deontay Wilder 889 00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,080 Speaker 3: with a little boop right hand, like not even a 890 00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:12,400 Speaker 3: full one, just a palm in the face and getting killed. 891 00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:16,680 Speaker 3: And so watching AJ sit here and sort of struggle 892 00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:18,680 Speaker 3: with him because he was getting touched up, like he 893 00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,920 Speaker 3: was never in danger of losing that fight, but he 894 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,240 Speaker 3: he got tagged a bunch like his face was Buddy, 895 00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:27,640 Speaker 3: it was harder than people wanted it. And maybe, like 896 00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:29,800 Speaker 3: the comment two team said, he was just trying to 897 00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,160 Speaker 3: get rounds and you know, work through with his new 898 00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:35,279 Speaker 3: team on some stuff. And the finish was spectacular. But 899 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:39,920 Speaker 3: I come out of that fight thinking, really want to 900 00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,279 Speaker 3: see a j Wilder, Like that's that's been the fight 901 00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,600 Speaker 3: wanted to see for a very long time obviously, and 902 00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,680 Speaker 3: Deontay Wilder is just gonna kill this Jimoke, like he 903 00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:51,800 Speaker 3: is just gonna blow his doors off. Uh, And it's 904 00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:54,880 Speaker 3: this just sort of feels like who ag is? He's 905 00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,480 Speaker 3: he is the prince that was promised, but the promise 906 00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:00,360 Speaker 3: was a lie, Like he just it's not it's not 907 00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:02,959 Speaker 3: there for whatever reason, he doesn't doesn't have it all 908 00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:06,839 Speaker 3: in that way, and so he's you know, he's going 909 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:08,520 Speaker 3: to be a draw. People are going to be interested. 910 00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:11,239 Speaker 3: I'll continue to watch his fights. I always watch him fight. 911 00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,680 Speaker 3: I watch all the big names you know, Deontay, etc. 912 00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:18,680 Speaker 3: But I don't have any expectations that he's getting, you know, 913 00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:22,320 Speaker 3: to win a belt or the unified title in in 914 00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:22,880 Speaker 3: your regard. 915 00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:24,440 Speaker 2: All right for a non boxing guy, I think you 916 00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:26,600 Speaker 2: just nailed it. Let's break this down. I mean, AJ 917 00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:28,759 Speaker 2: still star as you said effect coming out to a 918 00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,400 Speaker 2: full stadium with that violin player. I mean, Aja entrances 919 00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:34,279 Speaker 2: are always epic on a pride level. I loved it. 920 00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:38,120 Speaker 2: The chapmanship was great, always is, and if you only 921 00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:40,440 Speaker 2: watch that highlight, yeah, you can get fired the hell 922 00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:42,640 Speaker 2: up and be like, man, he's back, and let's see 923 00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:44,520 Speaker 2: him in there against Wilder, and I think they will 924 00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:46,840 Speaker 2: and it will be a huge fight. But to everything 925 00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:48,960 Speaker 2: you just said, to what Luke Thomas has believed since 926 00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:52,120 Speaker 2: the beginning, I think is true, AJ as it stands now, 927 00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,480 Speaker 2: is setting up to get knocked the hell out. The 928 00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:57,680 Speaker 2: ghost disappeared that night in the Madison Square Garden in 929 00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:03,080 Speaker 2: twenty nineteen against Andrew Ruiz. Some people never yeah, and 930 00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:06,600 Speaker 2: some people never get back that invincibility jed when it's gone, 931 00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:08,920 Speaker 2: and it got knocked out of him that night. He 932 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,560 Speaker 2: won the rematch against the fattest Ruiz ever, but was 933 00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:15,719 Speaker 2: tepid and very careful as a boxer. And since then, 934 00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,600 Speaker 2: you know, I think who nailed it, Pauly Malanaji. I 935 00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,240 Speaker 2: happened to catch his take ball flipping through Instagram yesterday 936 00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,600 Speaker 2: and he nailed it, nailed it completely. He basically said, 937 00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:29,359 Speaker 2: if the issues were physical, I would think Joshua can 938 00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:32,640 Speaker 2: turn this around. But the issues here are clearly mental 939 00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:34,359 Speaker 2: and I agree with that. Let me break it down 940 00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:38,320 Speaker 2: how I break how I see that Joshua is still 941 00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,280 Speaker 2: in an identity crisis about who he is as a boxer. 942 00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:45,319 Speaker 2: I think the USIK fights showed him wrongly trying to 943 00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:49,120 Speaker 2: outbox the slickest boxer that the heavyweight division has seen, 944 00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:52,279 Speaker 2: not named Tyson Fury, in the longest time, and it 945 00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:55,240 Speaker 2: didn't go well for him. Although he was competitives, particularly 946 00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:58,560 Speaker 2: in that second one. He's trying too hard to be 947 00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:02,320 Speaker 2: a boxer. This was as to Helenius, who, like you said, Hennel, 948 00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:06,480 Speaker 2: look Hilenius's feaster famine. He was once a huge, bright prospect, 949 00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:09,319 Speaker 2: big punch, huge for the way class as he saw there, 950 00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:11,880 Speaker 2: never quite saw I mean, he got knocked out by 951 00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:14,200 Speaker 2: Gerald Washington, which was a huge sign. Had the two 952 00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:17,000 Speaker 2: comeback knockout wins against Kovnatchki to put him back on 953 00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,440 Speaker 2: the map, and of course you saw what happened against Wilder. 954 00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,800 Speaker 2: It wasn't as if Helenius did bad or was easy 955 00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:25,120 Speaker 2: to be. Plentius was difficult, that's what he does. But 956 00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:28,319 Speaker 2: AJ wasn't confident. He didn't build behind that JAB. I 957 00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,800 Speaker 2: didn't love the interactions between him and Derek James in 958 00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,880 Speaker 2: the corner. It just doesn't look like AJ is buying 959 00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,200 Speaker 2: into what they're trying to do there. It doesn't look 960 00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:38,880 Speaker 2: like AJ is having fun. It doesn't look anymore like 961 00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:43,280 Speaker 2: AJ truly believes in himself. If AJ truly believed in himself, 962 00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:45,759 Speaker 2: I believe in that rematch with Lusk, he would have 963 00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,240 Speaker 2: done what he should have, which is going guns blazing, 964 00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:52,160 Speaker 2: knowing you can't outslick that former cruiserweight, und speeded champion, 965 00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,879 Speaker 2: the Olympic gold medalist, who is just so dynamic. AJ 966 00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:58,480 Speaker 2: is still in this crisis where, yeah, once Helenius starts 967 00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:01,120 Speaker 2: to slow in this fight, about round five, you finally 968 00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:04,600 Speaker 2: saw a busier AJ. But before that I wouldn't call 969 00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,200 Speaker 2: it sleepwalking. He was active, he was on the front foot, 970 00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:09,560 Speaker 2: he just wasn't throwing punches. It just sort of like 971 00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,880 Speaker 2: the there's a disconnect there. And I've never liked the 972 00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,719 Speaker 2: pairing with Derek James, not for stylistic reasons, not for 973 00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,000 Speaker 2: coaching reasons. Derek James won, you know, arguably the best 974 00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,400 Speaker 2: trainer on the planet, even with the one sided loss 975 00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:23,120 Speaker 2: in Spence Crawford. But I just don't think AJ is 976 00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:24,800 Speaker 2: buying into anything. I don't know if you saw the 977 00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:27,840 Speaker 2: DX cross chop after the knockout, when you mix that 978 00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,799 Speaker 2: with the really bizarre post fight interview afterwards, not as 979 00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,360 Speaker 2: bizarre as the one after the USIK rematch where he 980 00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:36,439 Speaker 2: commandeered the microphone and like a Forest Griffin versus Tito 981 00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:39,200 Speaker 2: Ortez rematch type way, this was more of just him 982 00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:42,280 Speaker 2: not wanting to really answer questions and sort of trying 983 00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:45,120 Speaker 2: to shout down the haters and the crowd. I just 984 00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:48,640 Speaker 2: think AJ right now doesn't know who he is when 985 00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:52,080 Speaker 2: he's still young enough and still physically able if he 986 00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:55,520 Speaker 2: commits to being what he does best. Yeah, AJ can box, 987 00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:58,080 Speaker 2: He's won big fights by boxing against the B level, 988 00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,719 Speaker 2: more limited guys. But if he's gonna be the a guys, 989 00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:04,359 Speaker 2: the Furies, the usiks who are incredible, slick boxers. He's 990 00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:06,319 Speaker 2: gotta be the bully. He's got to be the six 991 00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:09,319 Speaker 2: foot six, jacked guy who's gonna lean on you, gonna 992 00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:11,440 Speaker 2: use the fact that he can finish you with both hands, 993 00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:14,400 Speaker 2: that he's a great combination punch, has a tremendous uppercut 994 00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:17,239 Speaker 2: that at times reminds you of Lennox Lewis, but the 995 00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:19,560 Speaker 2: rest of the game doesn't round out and have that 996 00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:23,680 Speaker 2: same Lennox Lewis reminder because AJ is incomplete. He's always 997 00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:25,520 Speaker 2: been a little bit too muscle bound, but he's made 998 00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:29,479 Speaker 2: it work, especially when fighting guys who have a gap 999 00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:31,560 Speaker 2: in their skill set. If they're not technical enough, he 1000 00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:34,360 Speaker 2: can out technical you. But if he comes into a 1001 00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:39,000 Speaker 2: Deantay Wilder matchup with this sort of indifference in his eyes, yeah, 1002 00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:42,840 Speaker 2: he's gonna get absolutely splattered. I mean, Jed, it's tough 1003 00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:45,200 Speaker 2: for me in my literally in my basement to be 1004 00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:48,200 Speaker 2: like AJ Man, you're jack, You're a finisher. We know that. 1005 00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:49,680 Speaker 2: Just go in there and bite down and try to 1006 00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:52,400 Speaker 2: finish guys, because look, it's the heavyweight division. One punch 1007 00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:54,959 Speaker 2: can change anything, and AJ has always had to be fair. 1008 00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:56,880 Speaker 2: I don't want to say a bad chin, but a 1009 00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:59,920 Speaker 2: flashy chin, you can hurt him, right, Dillian White did 1010 00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:03,360 Speaker 2: Arlos tacking, you can hurt him. But still in a 1011 00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:07,200 Speaker 2: heavyweight fight, sometimes it's still about let's go in there 1012 00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:08,960 Speaker 2: and trade lumber and let's see who's the you know, 1013 00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,440 Speaker 2: who's got the bigger punch in the better chin. In 1014 00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:13,880 Speaker 2: this case, I love to see AJ. I would love 1015 00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,280 Speaker 2: to see him use that athleticism mix with the power 1016 00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:19,560 Speaker 2: and go after people. Him trying to feel out be 1017 00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:22,400 Speaker 2: the counter puncher. It's just not gonna work. Man. It 1018 00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:26,320 Speaker 2: ultimately worked against Lenius, it's not gonna work against Usik 1019 00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:29,120 Speaker 2: or Fury and with Wilder's power, Man, I do fear 1020 00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:31,839 Speaker 2: for AJ unless he goes into that fight with the 1021 00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:35,560 Speaker 2: mindset that I got to get Deontay before Deontay gets me. 1022 00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:36,480 Speaker 2: I mean, is that fair? Jed? 1023 00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:41,400 Speaker 3: Yeah? So, Like, I don't know what to tell him 1024 00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:44,359 Speaker 3: as far as much of this, but at a very 1025 00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:46,560 Speaker 3: basic level, I think most of what you said I 1026 00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:50,359 Speaker 3: would fundamentally agree with. He's not having fun like did 1027 00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,240 Speaker 3: when in the last like x years, has it looked 1028 00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:55,120 Speaker 3: like he has had fun. He had fun when that 1029 00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:57,799 Speaker 3: fight was over and he delivered a ko. But the 1030 00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:00,480 Speaker 3: rest of it looks like a man who is absolutely 1031 00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:03,600 Speaker 3: petrified that something bad is going to happen, that he 1032 00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:05,920 Speaker 3: is going to drop the ball, that he is not 1033 00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,360 Speaker 3: going to meet expectations, whatever it is, and just like 1034 00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:10,960 Speaker 3: I don't know, man, Like you're fighting a dude on 1035 00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,360 Speaker 3: short notice who is not going to beat you and 1036 00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:17,200 Speaker 3: knowing thinks, just go have fun in there, like, enjoy yourself, 1037 00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:19,840 Speaker 3: and the result is probably going to come in a 1038 00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,680 Speaker 3: much more significant and meaningful way. Like maybe you do 1039 00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,840 Speaker 3: get knocked out, but isn't it better to get knocked 1040 00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:28,600 Speaker 3: out having fun than to get knocked out because you 1041 00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:32,000 Speaker 3: are just throwing nothing but a jab and. 1042 00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,680 Speaker 2: When you're actively trying to win the fight the best 1043 00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:39,480 Speaker 2: way possible, when you are actively going after the win 1044 00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:42,359 Speaker 2: and you get caught, Hey man, you got caught. I'm 1045 00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:45,880 Speaker 2: getting a little sick of seeing AJ being too tentative 1046 00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:47,319 Speaker 2: or trying to be the bob or just thinking too 1047 00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:48,879 Speaker 2: much in general, he's thinking too much. 1048 00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:51,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, just go out, let it all hang out, Just 1049 00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:53,719 Speaker 3: have some fun. You don't have to run recklessly in there. 1050 00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:57,840 Speaker 3: But like you could whatever you're doing to treat every 1051 00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:00,759 Speaker 3: opponent you're fighting as if you are fighting me, and 1052 00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,240 Speaker 3: you would give them no respect, and just see what happens. 1053 00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:04,600 Speaker 3: I bet it will work out a lot better. 1054 00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:07,920 Speaker 2: I'd like to see he'll have more fun that nastiness 1055 00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,200 Speaker 2: that he's showing now in these post fight interviews like 1056 00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:12,799 Speaker 2: that sort of. I'd like to see that in the ring. 1057 00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,600 Speaker 2: I really would. But hey, big knockout, he's gonna. 1058 00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:18,759 Speaker 3: Get a huge disconnect. It's a huge disconnect between the 1059 00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:22,920 Speaker 3: product produced in the ring and the stuff said afterwards. 1060 00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:25,200 Speaker 2: I do. I would like to see him fight both 1061 00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:27,560 Speaker 2: Fury and Wilder before it's all over. Considering the amount 1062 00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:30,520 Speaker 2: of money that's being talked about in Saudi, let's get 1063 00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:33,879 Speaker 2: this Wilder fight happening in January. Look, if he wins it, man, 1064 00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:36,719 Speaker 2: he'd be the he'd be the big gun to fight 1065 00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:40,239 Speaker 2: the winner of this inevitable Fury Usic fight that inevitably, 1066 00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:45,160 Speaker 2: inevitably looks inevitably looks like Fury doesn't want. So there 1067 00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:47,080 Speaker 2: you go. I mean, Fury get it. 1068 00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:49,160 Speaker 3: Once he's gone and knocks him out, then it's not 1069 00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:49,920 Speaker 3: even gonna happen. 1070 00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:52,520 Speaker 2: I mean, here's well, yeah, okay, Well, I mean, here's 1071 00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:55,319 Speaker 2: the deal. If if Wilder knocks out AJ, I, I 1072 00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:57,480 Speaker 2: bet your Fury would still want to fight aj afterwards 1073 00:52:57,480 --> 00:52:59,759 Speaker 2: because Fury knows the money in an aj fight and 1074 00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:02,960 Speaker 2: all that. But uh man, that was in some ways 1075 00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:05,719 Speaker 2: that fight was tough to watch on Saturday. Speaking of 1076 00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:08,799 Speaker 2: Saturday and boxing, though they promised a potential fight of 1077 00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,319 Speaker 2: the year Top rank did one hundred and thirty pound 1078 00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:16,320 Speaker 2: title fight. Emmanuel Navarette defending against Oscar Valdez and Jed 1079 00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:19,319 Speaker 2: I think they damn near came close in the end. 1080 00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:22,520 Speaker 2: It goes down as a unanimous decision for the three 1081 00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:26,280 Speaker 2: division champion Navarete, who defended his one thirty WBO title. 1082 00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:29,279 Speaker 2: Two of the three score cards I thought were wider 1083 00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:33,359 Speaker 2: than they needed to be, but these two guys absolutely 1084 00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:36,920 Speaker 2: went to war. It was Navarete six inch reach advantage 1085 00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:39,839 Speaker 2: and awkwardness early. But I got to give Valdez, who 1086 00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:44,719 Speaker 2: always shows tremendous heart, props for the adjustments he made 1087 00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:46,799 Speaker 2: in the middle of the fight, particularly in round six, 1088 00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:49,640 Speaker 2: getting off with those short left hooks, using his athleticism 1089 00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:52,160 Speaker 2: on the inside to pivot. It turned into a bomb 1090 00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:55,040 Speaker 2: burner down the stretch when Navaretti hurt his right hand. 1091 00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:59,120 Speaker 2: Valdez's right eye was closing. You had Marco, Antonio Barrera 1092 00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:02,319 Speaker 2: and Eric Morales at ringside. I mean the waivos were 1093 00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:06,120 Speaker 2: just bouncing around the arena. Jed, you were forced to 1094 00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:09,319 Speaker 2: sit down and watch this near classic in Arizona. Uh, 1095 00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:11,600 Speaker 2: didn't live up to everything I told you it could be. 1096 00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:15,959 Speaker 3: This is awesome of the minithing you know. Very happy 1097 00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:19,160 Speaker 3: and grateful to be brought on this week. Mostly, I'm 1098 00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:21,799 Speaker 3: really happy that you told me to watch this fight 1099 00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:24,399 Speaker 3: because I watched the big fights, like I will watch 1100 00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:26,880 Speaker 3: every big boxing match and I may throw on Showtime 1101 00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:29,200 Speaker 3: Boxing or something if I'm got nothing else to do 1102 00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:32,439 Speaker 3: and it's on. But not an avid follower of all 1103 00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:36,000 Speaker 3: of the various champions in the various organizations. So this 1104 00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:38,840 Speaker 3: is my first experience with both of these men. I 1105 00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:42,120 Speaker 3: gotta tell you, I'm a big navarate guy. Now big 1106 00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:45,520 Speaker 3: navaraate guy from this because he's a crazy person. Uh, 1107 00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:48,759 Speaker 3: I am not a genius at striking. I'm pretty sure 1108 00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:53,319 Speaker 3: he does everything wrong. I'm pretty sure that nobody would 1109 00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:55,359 Speaker 3: ever teach you to do half the stuff I saw 1110 00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:58,640 Speaker 3: him doing there, and it was it was electric, like 1111 00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:01,440 Speaker 3: I couldn't take my eyes off watching this dude at 1112 00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:04,919 Speaker 3: various points, like trip over his own feet because he's 1113 00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:07,880 Speaker 3: his footwork is bad, and he just sort of like 1114 00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:11,480 Speaker 3: fires punches as oh there's windows. So even though my 1115 00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:13,560 Speaker 3: feet are crossed and I'm falling this way, I'm still 1116 00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:17,680 Speaker 3: gonna throw this left hand and just it was incredible 1117 00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:21,560 Speaker 3: to watch him like do that leaping, lunging like left 1118 00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:26,400 Speaker 3: shovel punch from out of nowhere that consistently found a home. 1119 00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:30,319 Speaker 3: He's awesome. I'm so in on this dude now. So 1120 00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:33,600 Speaker 3: this fight ruled. It was incredibly fun about that was 1121 00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:36,279 Speaker 3: super tough. Like you said, the left hook coming down 1122 00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:39,279 Speaker 3: the stretch, he started to really just swing that as 1123 00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:42,640 Speaker 3: hard as he possibly could, and it landed a bunch 1124 00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:45,600 Speaker 3: in like a meaningful way. I think I had it 1125 00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:49,680 Speaker 3: eight to four, seven to five on watch. So the 1126 00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:50,880 Speaker 3: scorecards seemed fine. 1127 00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:53,839 Speaker 2: I think, well the scorecards were like ten to two, 1128 00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:54,840 Speaker 2: nine to oh. 1129 00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:56,960 Speaker 3: Was there ten to two. I wasn't paying that much 1130 00:55:56,960 --> 00:56:00,399 Speaker 3: attention to that. I know that they're the concur one 1131 00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:02,879 Speaker 3: was eight to four whatever, and yeah, seven five eight 1132 00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:04,680 Speaker 3: four or something like that. The fight was just super 1133 00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:06,319 Speaker 3: fun and now I have a new dude. Who I'm 1134 00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:10,360 Speaker 3: gonna watch every time he fights, because the guys he 1135 00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:13,960 Speaker 3: literally tripped over himself throwing punches just incredible. 1136 00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,480 Speaker 2: I mean he could throw uppercuts from with both hands 1137 00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:19,240 Speaker 2: from about five feet out with that six inch reach advantage, 1138 00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:21,799 Speaker 2: which is incredible. But here he would throw him. He 1139 00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:24,319 Speaker 2: could throw him from two inches in like just a 1140 00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:25,520 Speaker 2: random thing. 1141 00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:28,160 Speaker 3: Like oh, like, he's awesome. He is the best. 1142 00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:30,800 Speaker 2: The cowboy they call him El valco is that I 1143 00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:33,160 Speaker 2: don't do, don't I don't do any languages, as I 1144 00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:38,240 Speaker 2: dropped a lot of Genipaul cowboy over the week. Yeah, 1145 00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:39,920 Speaker 2: so he's the cowboy. So here's the deal. He was 1146 00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:41,920 Speaker 2: the underdog coming in. This is the biggest win of 1147 00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:44,919 Speaker 2: his career by far. He had had those two big 1148 00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:46,799 Speaker 2: ones over Isi Dog Bay on the title level at 1149 00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:49,000 Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty two pounds. He's now at one thirty. 1150 00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:52,160 Speaker 2: And to be fair, there was some questions about which direct, 1151 00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:55,560 Speaker 2: not which direction Navarette is going, but in some ways, 1152 00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:57,960 Speaker 2: how good or great could he be. He had that 1153 00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:00,640 Speaker 2: fight with Liam Wilson where he got dropped dearly, didn't 1154 00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:03,200 Speaker 2: look great. He ended up rallying and stopping Wilson and 1155 00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:04,640 Speaker 2: a lot of people were saying, hey, man, maybe we 1156 00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:06,959 Speaker 2: need to see that again. But they made this fight. 1157 00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:09,120 Speaker 2: Both guys promised the potential, as I said, of a 1158 00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:11,480 Speaker 2: fight of the year. I think they came pretty done 1159 00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:14,000 Speaker 2: close of living up to it. But this was an 1160 00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:16,560 Speaker 2: upset win. And this is an interesting story. We don't 1161 00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:19,320 Speaker 2: talk about Navarete a lot. We talk about him as 1162 00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:21,720 Speaker 2: being an action hero. We talk about him as he 1163 00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:23,680 Speaker 2: fights all the time. The guy fights fights like every 1164 00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:25,680 Speaker 2: three and a half months. I mean, he's always fighting, 1165 00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:28,720 Speaker 2: but it's usually against the next guy in line. There's 1166 00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:31,200 Speaker 2: not a ton of killer names across three divisions on 1167 00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:33,840 Speaker 2: his resume where you're like, oh, yeah, great win, great win. 1168 00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:37,000 Speaker 2: I'm just wondering now, beating a guy like Oscar Valdes, 1169 00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:38,760 Speaker 2: who is you know. I mean, it's not that far 1170 00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:41,600 Speaker 2: removed from knocking out Miguel Burchell and moving up in 1171 00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:43,320 Speaker 2: way to win a second title for the knockout of 1172 00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:46,080 Speaker 2: the Year. This is a great win. I'm not ready 1173 00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:48,200 Speaker 2: to put Naverette on a Pumper Pollo list or anything, 1174 00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:50,919 Speaker 2: but we should start really putting respect on his name, 1175 00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:53,400 Speaker 2: not just for the warrior spirit and you know, the 1176 00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:56,280 Speaker 2: cowboy hatting the cool tats, and all that, but dude, 1177 00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:58,680 Speaker 2: he's a tough out. It's incredible to believe this guy 1178 00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:01,720 Speaker 2: ever made one twenty two. Now he is long, he's awkward, 1179 00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:04,080 Speaker 2: he's a man in there. And to have Brerera and 1180 00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:06,360 Speaker 2: Morales at ringside, to have Joe tess On on the 1181 00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:12,960 Speaker 2: broadcaster ESPN losing his mind and probably his other fluids 1182 00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:16,200 Speaker 2: throughout the whole fight, it deserved it a huge win. 1183 00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:19,520 Speaker 2: Full respect to Navarette and by the way, Chackursse Stevenson, 1184 00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:22,280 Speaker 2: who has fully moved up to one thirty five and 1185 00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:26,640 Speaker 2: did widely outclass Oscar Valdez said, hey, I'll fight Navarette. 1186 00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:28,520 Speaker 2: I having a catchwaight, if you guys want me to. 1187 00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:32,840 Speaker 2: But that's more because apparently Lomachenko turned down Shakur's request 1188 00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:34,840 Speaker 2: to fight. I don't know if you know Shaker well 1189 00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:39,160 Speaker 2: here Jed, but he's uh, if anybody's if there's any 1190 00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:41,000 Speaker 2: fighter on the planet who you could say, he looks 1191 00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:44,000 Speaker 2: like Floyd. There's some Floyd elements to him. Devin Haney 1192 00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:46,720 Speaker 2: had times chaque Stevenson. Yes, I mean this guy's coming, 1193 00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:47,720 Speaker 2: He's coming, Okay. 1194 00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:53,000 Speaker 3: Dude, he would probably again again. I'm sure that real 1195 00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:56,880 Speaker 3: boxing heads will be like you're an idiot. My actual 1196 00:58:56,880 --> 00:59:00,480 Speaker 3: biggest takeaway, aside from the navarettes do and I want 1197 00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:03,360 Speaker 3: to watch this insane dude fight. I think it would 1198 00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:08,440 Speaker 3: be incredibly funny to watch him box Vasilli Limo Trinco, 1199 00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:11,040 Speaker 3: to see the difference in footwork that those two men. 1200 00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:15,160 Speaker 3: I think, like I think, I think I could actually 1201 00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:19,680 Speaker 3: watch Vasilli Limochenko completely encircle this man, like actually just 1202 00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:22,280 Speaker 3: walk around him in a circle, and it would be great. 1203 00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:24,720 Speaker 3: I would watch that fight. I would pay one hundred 1204 00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:25,880 Speaker 3: dollars to watch that fight. 1205 00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:28,600 Speaker 2: Indeed. Indeed, we also had a show Top Championship Boxing 1206 00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:30,959 Speaker 2: triple header over the weekend from just over the River 1207 00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:34,640 Speaker 2: from DC and oxen Hill, Maryland. Luke Thomas and Steven 1208 00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:37,640 Speaker 2: Bredman Edwards on the undercard call. That was nice, big 1209 00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:40,600 Speaker 2: wins for Manuel Rodriguez gaining another world title one hundred 1210 00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:44,400 Speaker 2: and eighteen pounds, also Gary Antoine Russell taking out Ken Cruz. 1211 00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:46,800 Speaker 2: But here was the big talk. The opener on this 1212 00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:51,320 Speaker 2: telecast turned out to be a monster upset Via stop it. 1213 00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:53,760 Speaker 2: So here's the deal. Trayvon Marshall came in with a 1214 00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:56,360 Speaker 2: seven to zero record, a big time sort of tag 1215 00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:58,640 Speaker 2: on him as a hot prospect. He's going in there 1216 00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:02,720 Speaker 2: against Gabriel my S, a two time Venezuelan Olympian who 1217 01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:05,360 Speaker 2: only had seven or six pro fights coming in. He 1218 01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:07,120 Speaker 2: was five zero to one coming in. 1219 01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:11,800 Speaker 3: Yes, sell me on Marshall because I don't I had 1220 01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:14,040 Speaker 3: no idea who this was until I watched this fight, Like, 1221 01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:16,080 Speaker 3: why is he so hyped? 1222 01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:18,360 Speaker 2: He's a good prospect. I've called some of his fights 1223 01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:21,920 Speaker 2: on the on the early prelims there for showtime. He's quick, 1224 01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:24,560 Speaker 2: confident and aggressive, got a good right hand, all that stuff. 1225 01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:27,320 Speaker 2: But here's the deal. He was coming in against my Estuary, 1226 01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:30,760 Speaker 2: who's thirty six but was a two time Venezuelan Olympian, 1227 01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:33,160 Speaker 2: and he only had six profights coming in at five 1228 01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:35,880 Speaker 2: oho to one. But yet they set the line here 1229 01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:40,360 Speaker 2: at minus nine to fifty for Marshall, the betting favorite. 1230 01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:42,920 Speaker 2: Now I hadn't seen this line coming in. I would 1231 01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:45,680 Speaker 2: have favored Marshall win, of course here, but I wouldn't 1232 01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:48,720 Speaker 2: have favored him by a lot. And what ended up happening. 1233 01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:52,480 Speaker 2: My Estuary turns in a second round thunderous stoppage to 1234 01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:54,280 Speaker 2: score a big upset, and I get what you're saying, 1235 01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:56,400 Speaker 2: sort of after the fact, that's it looks like, man, 1236 01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:58,880 Speaker 2: what did we ever love about Trayvon Marshall? Well, we 1237 01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:01,120 Speaker 2: loved him at a certain level taking out the guys 1238 01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:03,600 Speaker 2: he was expected to. But I wanted to ask you, 1239 01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:07,200 Speaker 2: because Jed, I did peep your in your LinkedIn page 1240 01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:09,240 Speaker 2: ahead of uh. Later on we're gonna have a nice 1241 01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:11,520 Speaker 2: fun segment getting to know Jed, which you have described 1242 01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:14,080 Speaker 2: as a awkward Tinder date between the two of us. 1243 01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:17,280 Speaker 2: It says on there that you're a former professional gambler. 1244 01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:21,840 Speaker 2: Hold that thought right there. Boxing odds makers the lines, 1245 01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:23,200 Speaker 2: as we talk about a lot in the show. For 1246 01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:26,720 Speaker 2: Friday's Okay bet boxing matches are usually a lot wider. Now, 1247 01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:30,520 Speaker 2: I understand setting lines is more about inducing betting activity 1248 01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:33,120 Speaker 2: than necessarily outright telling you this person's gonna win by 1249 01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:37,520 Speaker 2: this much. But can I ask you, professional gambler X, 1250 01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:42,520 Speaker 2: why are we so wide in boxing? Who could have 1251 01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:45,280 Speaker 2: commissioned this fight? I wanted to let people know here. 1252 01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:48,080 Speaker 2: Gabriel Mastra not a household name coming in, but he 1253 01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:51,040 Speaker 2: knocked out Diego Chavez, former world title challenger in his 1254 01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:53,919 Speaker 2: second profight. He scored wins over a fate of Devin 1255 01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:57,160 Speaker 2: Alexander and a good fighter in Michael Fox. He fought 1256 01:01:57,160 --> 01:01:59,880 Speaker 2: to a draw with unbeaten Terra SCHELLI stuck. So this 1257 01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:02,800 Speaker 2: I had done some things here as a two time Olympian. 1258 01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:05,280 Speaker 2: How in the hell was this minus nine point fifty? 1259 01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:08,200 Speaker 2: And what is going on with boxing line making? In 1260 01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:08,760 Speaker 2: your opinion? 1261 01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:13,120 Speaker 3: So I can't speak to this fight in particular. I 1262 01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:15,840 Speaker 3: will also just say that I'm going to default to 1263 01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:18,920 Speaker 3: Vegas because I don't know if you've been there, but 1264 01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:22,800 Speaker 3: it's it's not a town of poverty. Yeah, it would 1265 01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:26,640 Speaker 3: appear that they're they're doing okay in Vegas, So I'm 1266 01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:28,880 Speaker 3: gonna assume that they know what they're doing, at least 1267 01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:32,840 Speaker 3: in the broad spectrum of things. But when you said that, 1268 01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:36,720 Speaker 3: you know, boxing lines are or not, just like every 1269 01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:40,560 Speaker 3: line is not to really show maybe a hey, who's 1270 01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:43,320 Speaker 3: gonna win or not, it's going to incentivize betting. Could 1271 01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:46,720 Speaker 3: also just be to disincentivized betting too. Hey, we really 1272 01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:50,120 Speaker 3: don't want to take any action on Trayvon Marshall because 1273 01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:53,480 Speaker 3: we think he is going to win, and so there's 1274 01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:56,919 Speaker 3: just not like if if the lines are low, then 1275 01:02:56,920 --> 01:02:58,960 Speaker 3: everyone will just get on this and then we're gonna 1276 01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:01,000 Speaker 3: be in a position where we're just paying out a 1277 01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:05,000 Speaker 3: bunch of winners, so we're gonna disincentivize that, and occasionally 1278 01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:07,240 Speaker 3: they're gonna get handed. The cookie jar happens five or 1279 01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:09,880 Speaker 3: six times a year in boxing, where some plus a 1280 01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:13,040 Speaker 3: thousand underdog comes through with a big KO. I have 1281 01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:14,800 Speaker 3: no idea why they would have set this line at 1282 01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:18,440 Speaker 3: minus nine point fifty. Haven't watched either of these dudes 1283 01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:21,080 Speaker 3: fight before this one, But immediately as soon as this 1284 01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:24,360 Speaker 3: fight started, I said to myself self, that looks like 1285 01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:27,360 Speaker 3: a grown man fighting a child, because it was thirty 1286 01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:29,520 Speaker 3: six year old dude fighting a twenty two year old. 1287 01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:34,240 Speaker 3: I personally have made this assessment for MMA and other things. 1288 01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:38,960 Speaker 3: I would never trust a twenty two year old child 1289 01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:42,760 Speaker 3: with a heavy responsibility for anything, because I was twenty 1290 01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:45,520 Speaker 3: two once BC. I assume at some point in time 1291 01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:49,120 Speaker 3: you were twenty two, would you call yourself reliable? Would 1292 01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:53,680 Speaker 3: you call yourself a good, smart person who maximized the 1293 01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:56,400 Speaker 3: things that you were doing. I was an idiot. 1294 01:03:56,840 --> 01:03:59,240 Speaker 2: I want to call myself reliable till about age thirty three. 1295 01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:01,680 Speaker 2: My wife would probably say I'm not there yet, But 1296 01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:04,160 Speaker 2: at twenty two I was an abject train wreck. 1297 01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:07,280 Speaker 3: Yeah right, I didn't have any Like, I know, it's 1298 01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:09,840 Speaker 3: sure he can be further along in that aspect of 1299 01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:12,440 Speaker 3: life in sport, but like he's still a kid. He 1300 01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:15,840 Speaker 3: might wake up one day and his acutane like f's 1301 01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:18,920 Speaker 3: up his hormones and he's like, oh, well, I don't 1302 01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:22,040 Speaker 3: I'm not feeling it today. Whatever, he just can't do 1303 01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:24,560 Speaker 3: shit anymore. So I have no idea why you'd ever 1304 01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:26,720 Speaker 3: install a twenty two year old kid as a minus 1305 01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:30,560 Speaker 3: one thousand betting favorite. That seems like bad, bad principles. 1306 01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:32,760 Speaker 3: And I hope that some people who were more in 1307 01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:36,640 Speaker 3: tune de boxing took advantage because if I wasn't like, 1308 01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:40,760 Speaker 3: it wasn't a runaway, but he wasn't winning the fight 1309 01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:42,840 Speaker 3: in my estimation before he got knocked out. 1310 01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:46,120 Speaker 2: Well, he's facing a guy with extreme experience there two 1311 01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:49,120 Speaker 2: time Olympia had beaten in six pro fights, had faced 1312 01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:52,200 Speaker 2: some legit guys. So I don't understand that line. I 1313 01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:53,680 Speaker 2: believe that was Fan Duel who had that line. I 1314 01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:57,040 Speaker 2: saw Luke Thomas sweet that out. But Trevon Marshall had 1315 01:04:57,040 --> 01:04:59,120 Speaker 2: looked good, but again he'd been fighting the kind of 1316 01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:00,920 Speaker 2: competition a guy who one to O two and oh 1317 01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:03,520 Speaker 2: three and oh four, Oh should be fighting. This was 1318 01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:06,240 Speaker 2: a step up and he got stepped down. He did 1319 01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:08,400 Speaker 2: put on Instagram that he's gonna bounce back. He you know, 1320 01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:10,280 Speaker 2: he's gonna learn from this. All good on that regard, 1321 01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:13,000 Speaker 2: but a big win for my estray and an interesting 1322 01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:15,880 Speaker 2: turn of events there to close their jet, jed, what 1323 01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:17,480 Speaker 2: kind of professional gambler were you? 1324 01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:22,160 Speaker 3: Oh? I was. I was doing sports betting, primarily on MMA. 1325 01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:26,560 Speaker 3: Also again you were checking my LinkedIn so like it's 1326 01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:28,000 Speaker 3: one of those things where you put it on the 1327 01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:31,200 Speaker 3: resume and like the total validity of it. 1328 01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:33,919 Speaker 2: Is, like I have placed a few beds at times? 1329 01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:35,360 Speaker 2: Does that make me I did, in. 1330 01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:39,360 Speaker 3: Fact have my primary income come from gambling for a 1331 01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:40,440 Speaker 3: period of my life. 1332 01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:44,640 Speaker 2: Hold that thought into em later on today, let's keep 1333 01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:48,160 Speaker 2: the train moving topic number four, speaking of Anthony Joshua 1334 01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:51,840 Speaker 2: versus Helenius there in the UK sold out stadium. Everybody 1335 01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:56,760 Speaker 2: was there, including Connor McGregor, who looked like typical Connor 1336 01:05:56,840 --> 01:06:01,320 Speaker 2: McGregor of late, a little bloated, probably more that's just 1337 01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:05,080 Speaker 2: me editorializing. Uh. He was ringside, he made a lot 1338 01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:09,640 Speaker 2: of noise. He sat down with uh Talk Sports Gareth 1339 01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:13,560 Speaker 2: A Davis the Warlock himself to lay out a three 1340 01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:16,640 Speaker 2: fight comeback plan over the next year or so. In 1341 01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:21,720 Speaker 2: the UFC. He also very sloppily post fight called out 1342 01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:25,080 Speaker 2: ks I to a bare knuckle fight. So basically, Jed, 1343 01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:30,240 Speaker 2: this was typical Connor of late, which means I'm not 1344 01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:32,760 Speaker 2: sure this guy is ever gonna fight again or should. 1345 01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:35,360 Speaker 2: But let's go piece by piece before I get your 1346 01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:38,600 Speaker 2: reaction on what we did see, because you know, Connor's 1347 01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:42,080 Speaker 2: not in the usatopool fellas yet he thinks he's gonna 1348 01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:45,240 Speaker 2: fight soon. Let's listen to Connor's three fight plan here 1349 01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:48,200 Speaker 2: with the Warlock Camber. I know who you fight me, 1350 01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:51,000 Speaker 2: Shan Rack. You all gonna do it. 1351 01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:54,200 Speaker 3: Yet? 1352 01:06:55,120 --> 01:06:57,760 Speaker 2: A chance and grabbing. That's what are we gonna see 1353 01:06:57,760 --> 01:06:59,919 Speaker 2: you in another boxing match as well? The second rich 1354 01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:00,720 Speaker 2: fight history. 1355 01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:04,880 Speaker 4: When you full Floyd Mayweather, Yeah, am my chaos. 1356 01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:07,120 Speaker 2: O y but he couldn't box ye he couldn't box yeats. 1357 01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:14,080 Speaker 2: If you will up guys Chandler next December, I make 1358 01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:17,640 Speaker 2: Gays b NF and then we'll do Nate as brilliant chance. 1359 01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:18,120 Speaker 4: Thank you. 1360 01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:23,320 Speaker 2: All right, let's start there, Jed, And if anyone say, 1361 01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:25,680 Speaker 2: oh BC hates Connor. I love Connor. That's why I'm 1362 01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:28,800 Speaker 2: being so harsh because it's obvious this guy's a trade. 1363 01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:31,120 Speaker 2: This guy is me at twenty two. But right now, 1364 01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:35,919 Speaker 2: so Jed, is he ever gonna fight in the UFC again? 1365 01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:38,880 Speaker 2: Is he really fighting? Notice the verbiage there he said 1366 01:07:39,040 --> 01:07:42,240 Speaker 2: Chandler because I have to that tends that tends to believe. 1367 01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:44,760 Speaker 2: That tends me to. 1368 01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:47,640 Speaker 3: Believe Chandler I've ever heard in my life. 1369 01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:50,520 Speaker 2: So are they gonna give him the brock Lesner exception 1370 01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:51,960 Speaker 2: or what what's happening here? 1371 01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:55,439 Speaker 3: One thousand. I've been saying this forever. I don't I'm 1372 01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:58,200 Speaker 3: still not confident he is actually fighting Michael Chandler. I've 1373 01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:00,360 Speaker 3: been pretty adamant that he is not going to fight 1374 01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:04,640 Speaker 3: Michael Chandler. But I'm pretty sure that when he does 1375 01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:07,800 Speaker 3: come back, it will be with the Brockleisner exception because 1376 01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:10,200 Speaker 3: they can do it and it will be worth it 1377 01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:12,880 Speaker 3: to them monetarily, and there will be some blowback. But 1378 01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:16,120 Speaker 3: I don't know if you remember, this crazy thing happened 1379 01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:17,760 Speaker 3: at the beginning of the year, Dana White hit his 1380 01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:20,439 Speaker 3: wife and we moved past that in like three weeks. 1381 01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:23,519 Speaker 3: So I'm pretty sure that the UFC can can take 1382 01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:26,000 Speaker 3: the big bag of money that Connor Fighting presents and 1383 01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:30,040 Speaker 3: move past a bad headline or two of oh the exemption, 1384 01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:30,920 Speaker 3: bah blah blah. 1385 01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:33,280 Speaker 2: Right, Like the general public is going to be so 1386 01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:36,479 Speaker 2: freaking excited for McGregor Chandler like we were when Brock 1387 01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:40,280 Speaker 2: came back. That like, even though Mark Haunt deserves a 1388 01:08:40,320 --> 01:08:43,519 Speaker 2: lot of our respect financial money a lot, Mark Hunt 1389 01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:48,400 Speaker 2: deserves a lot. Right now, Brock took the exception, popped 1390 01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:51,320 Speaker 2: for them an insane amount of peds and looked like 1391 01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:54,240 Speaker 2: he was a superhero. And we're all like, you know what, 1392 01:08:54,280 --> 01:08:56,400 Speaker 2: they'll probably just let Connor do the same thing. And 1393 01:08:56,439 --> 01:08:59,120 Speaker 2: you know what, because the membership has its privilege, nobody's 1394 01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:00,720 Speaker 2: gonna care. You're right, nobody's gonna hear. 1395 01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:03,080 Speaker 3: Why wouldn't they, Like I've seen some people be like, oh, 1396 01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:06,280 Speaker 3: the fighters would be pissed, Like, sure they would. Why 1397 01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:09,679 Speaker 3: does the UFC care? Do they care at all? No, 1398 01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:11,519 Speaker 3: Like the fighters should have been mad when they got 1399 01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:14,040 Speaker 3: cut out of four Billy and they didn't do shit. 1400 01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:16,040 Speaker 3: Then they're not gonna do shit because Connor gets to 1401 01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:18,599 Speaker 3: fight again, so whatever, Like the UC is just gonna 1402 01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:20,920 Speaker 3: do it on whatever timeline Connor wants because it's worth 1403 01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:23,400 Speaker 3: a lot of money, and one bad headline isn't gonna 1404 01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:26,160 Speaker 3: kill him. So I'm really not sure he's fighting Chandler. 1405 01:09:26,840 --> 01:09:29,439 Speaker 3: I do think the thing he outlined there is the actual, 1406 01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:34,519 Speaker 3: like correct path forward of comeback fight Chandler, assuming he wins, 1407 01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:38,080 Speaker 3: if he can win, big assumption there, fighting Gaichie for 1408 01:09:38,120 --> 01:09:41,719 Speaker 3: the BMF belt or whatever, totally reasonable, and then after 1409 01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:45,559 Speaker 3: that the Nate trilogy has sort of just been waiting forever. 1410 01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:47,840 Speaker 3: So I think that makes a ton of sense on 1411 01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:50,280 Speaker 3: a timeline, dude. 1412 01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:53,160 Speaker 2: If we get it. If we actually get to the 1413 01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:56,519 Speaker 2: Nate trilogy, the odds of Connor losing both the Chandler 1414 01:09:56,520 --> 01:10:00,000 Speaker 2: and gai Chie fights would be huge. She would kill him, 1415 01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:02,160 Speaker 2: especially by knockout and both if it had. You know, yeah, 1416 01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:03,880 Speaker 2: could he beat Channeler, of course, could he be Agent? 1417 01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:06,320 Speaker 2: It's possible. Of course, it's possible. But what has what 1418 01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:08,400 Speaker 2: over the past year has given you any level of 1419 01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:11,639 Speaker 2: confidence that it's still likely. No, That's why I'm saying 1420 01:10:11,680 --> 01:10:14,519 Speaker 2: I love the guy, but you know, I'm kind of done, dude. 1421 01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:17,000 Speaker 2: If we get to the nay Diaz fight, though, remember 1422 01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:20,280 Speaker 2: both of these first two fights were twenty sixteen. Dude, 1423 01:10:20,360 --> 01:10:23,519 Speaker 2: this is gonna look a lot like Robbie versus Nick 1424 01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:25,880 Speaker 2: Diaz Part two. It will And that was some of 1425 01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:28,160 Speaker 2: the saddest grossest shit I know. A lot of like 1426 01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:30,479 Speaker 2: hardcorees were like, no, man, that fight was great. They 1427 01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:32,679 Speaker 2: went to war. No, that was some of the saddest 1428 01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:35,639 Speaker 2: grossest emimation I've seen in a while. Since it's not 1429 01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:39,599 Speaker 2: necessarily the heart attack match between Rip Kimbo and Dada, 1430 01:10:39,680 --> 01:10:43,240 Speaker 2: But dude, that's it's it's gonna be gross. Like you 1431 01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:45,920 Speaker 2: they here's what I'm saying that probably should just do 1432 01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:48,320 Speaker 2: Connor Nate. Now, why would you line up Connor to 1433 01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:50,640 Speaker 2: lose to these guys. Your answer would be because we 1434 01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:53,000 Speaker 2: made them ultimate fighter coaches and they're supposed to fight 1435 01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:56,840 Speaker 2: at the end. But uh, there's I don't know. So 1436 01:10:56,880 --> 01:10:57,960 Speaker 2: here's the other part about Connor. 1437 01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:00,919 Speaker 3: I would agree they should do Connor Nate, but Nate's 1438 01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:02,880 Speaker 3: indisposed at the moment. 1439 01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:05,880 Speaker 2: So do you believe by the way Nate's manager saying 1440 01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:08,599 Speaker 2: he made like upwards of twenty million in that fight, Yes, 1441 01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:11,080 Speaker 2: I believe that's not a lot of fricking money. Wow, 1442 01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:14,320 Speaker 2: So something I've editorialized. You know, remember when Connor got 1443 01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:16,280 Speaker 2: caught in the bathroom with that woman at the at 1444 01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:18,719 Speaker 2: the NBA Finals halftime, you know, and then Connor's caught 1445 01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:21,120 Speaker 2: a lot of a lot of videos with women and 1446 01:11:21,160 --> 01:11:23,240 Speaker 2: people like finally, people are like BC and my dms, 1447 01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:26,040 Speaker 2: they're like, yo, obviously he's got an open marriage. Man, 1448 01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:30,120 Speaker 2: Stop worrying about this guy's personal way he married. Are 1449 01:11:30,160 --> 01:11:31,680 Speaker 2: they married, because I don't know if you were. I'm 1450 01:11:31,680 --> 01:11:33,800 Speaker 2: actually not sure if they're married. Indeed, Devil and I 1451 01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:35,880 Speaker 2: don't know if they're married. I don't know. But they 1452 01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:39,400 Speaker 2: really portrayed him during Connor's documentary as the ultimate family man. 1453 01:11:39,560 --> 01:11:42,200 Speaker 2: Let's go to the videotape. Here's how Connor arrived to 1454 01:11:42,280 --> 01:11:49,040 Speaker 2: the fight documentary on Saturday. Yeah, it looks pretty open 1455 01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:51,040 Speaker 2: to me, Jed. Probably not my business to say that 1456 01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:54,559 Speaker 2: out loud, but yeah, that's where we're at. And then 1457 01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:56,920 Speaker 2: you mentioned it, and a lot of people mentioned it, 1458 01:11:56,960 --> 01:12:01,320 Speaker 2: including Luke Thomas angrily on Twitter. After the fight, Anthony 1459 01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:04,280 Speaker 2: Joshua had gone through the ropes to go celebrate outside, 1460 01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:08,040 Speaker 2: Connor brought out one of his forged Irish stouts. 1461 01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:10,720 Speaker 3: I saw this live and it was the funniest thing 1462 01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:11,160 Speaker 3: in the world. 1463 01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:15,000 Speaker 2: Meanwhile, AJ's nose is still gushing blood from that fight. 1464 01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:18,120 Speaker 2: That's that's something right there. What do you think happened 1465 01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:19,720 Speaker 2: to the rest of that beer? You think Connor chugged it? 1466 01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:24,479 Speaker 3: Probably he didn't throw it at anybody. I don't think so. 1467 01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:29,280 Speaker 3: He probably just in all later. The AJ thing is incredible. 1468 01:12:29,320 --> 01:12:33,479 Speaker 3: I did not see the bus entry. I missed that. Look, 1469 01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:35,760 Speaker 3: I'm not here to judge his personal life and that 1470 01:12:36,360 --> 01:12:39,280 Speaker 3: if if yeah, not mine. If he and his again 1471 01:12:39,320 --> 01:12:41,120 Speaker 3: I don't think they're married. If they are, and if 1472 01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:42,680 Speaker 3: he and his wife are, okay, if not, he and 1473 01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:47,439 Speaker 3: his fiance whatever makes them happy, I'm fine. Hands on, 1474 01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:50,839 Speaker 3: I'm happy. It can't be that bad, right, I agree? 1475 01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:56,680 Speaker 3: Who is that? Sheryl Crow nailed it? But yeah, the 1476 01:12:56,840 --> 01:13:02,360 Speaker 3: forcing uh the awful beer after dude, that's the thing. Like, 1477 01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:03,880 Speaker 3: that's remarkable. 1478 01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:06,760 Speaker 2: Connor is so far past carriature right now, and it 1479 01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:11,200 Speaker 2: kills me because, dude, where he was on top of 1480 01:13:11,240 --> 01:13:14,639 Speaker 2: the mountain after the Eddie fight will just never be rivaled. 1481 01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:16,680 Speaker 2: And if you want to say, who cares about the 1482 01:13:16,720 --> 01:13:18,680 Speaker 2: second half of his career, look at the money he 1483 01:13:18,720 --> 01:13:20,760 Speaker 2: made against Floyd. Look at you know, he got into 1484 01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:22,840 Speaker 2: the biggest fight in the history against a bibe. Look 1485 01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:25,439 Speaker 2: at all this stuff. Yeah, but the second half of 1486 01:13:25,479 --> 01:13:28,360 Speaker 2: his career has been not only a train wreck, it's 1487 01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:33,559 Speaker 2: just missed opportunity after missed opportunity for the biggest, greatest 1488 01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:36,240 Speaker 2: lightning rod in the history of the sport, a guy 1489 01:13:36,280 --> 01:13:40,040 Speaker 2: who has fueled so much fandom and financial success for 1490 01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:42,519 Speaker 2: the company. And to see him in the final years 1491 01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:45,200 Speaker 2: here while he still may or may not potentially have it, 1492 01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:48,880 Speaker 2: not using it or I mean, it's it's rough. It's 1493 01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:51,200 Speaker 2: been rough, but I gotta get over that and move on. 1494 01:13:51,439 --> 01:13:55,800 Speaker 2: Speaking of really worthless super fights that may or may 1495 01:13:55,840 --> 01:13:59,280 Speaker 2: not ever happen, like Chandler versus Connor for the tough 1496 01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:03,000 Speaker 2: coaching champ Chip. There's this another one topic five that 1497 01:14:03,080 --> 01:14:07,000 Speaker 2: we hate talking about, and that's Zuck versus Musk, the 1498 01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:11,439 Speaker 2: billionaire battles. It's like Trump versus McMahon part two there 1499 01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:14,240 Speaker 2: from rustle Mania all those years back. So here's the 1500 01:14:14,360 --> 01:14:19,959 Speaker 2: latest update yesterday on threads whatever meta induced social platform 1501 01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:23,880 Speaker 2: that is at Zuck has revealed that yet it's time 1502 01:14:23,880 --> 01:14:26,160 Speaker 2: to move on from this fight. Let's go to the 1503 01:14:26,280 --> 01:14:29,360 Speaker 2: screen grab here from Luke Thomas's Twitter Zuck is saying, 1504 01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:31,400 Speaker 2: I think we all can agree that Elon isn't serious. 1505 01:14:31,439 --> 01:14:33,400 Speaker 2: It's time to move on. I offered a real date, 1506 01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:37,080 Speaker 2: Dana offered to make this legit for charity. Elon won't confirm. 1507 01:14:37,320 --> 01:14:39,880 Speaker 2: Then he says he needs surgery. Now he has to 1508 01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:42,880 Speaker 2: do a practice round in my backyard instead. And they 1509 01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:45,920 Speaker 2: did share those leaked text messages somebody did. If they're 1510 01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:48,519 Speaker 2: real or not, I don't know online and then he says, 1511 01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:50,880 Speaker 2: if Elon ever gets serious about a real date, he 1512 01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:53,240 Speaker 2: knows how to reach me. Otherwise, time to move on. 1513 01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:55,599 Speaker 2: I'm going to ball. I don't care where you're going, Zuck, 1514 01:14:55,680 --> 01:14:58,320 Speaker 2: leave me alone. The other updates before I get your 1515 01:14:58,360 --> 01:15:02,360 Speaker 2: reaction here, Jed was previous Elon Musk had tweeted out 1516 01:15:02,479 --> 01:15:05,519 Speaker 2: can we throw to that one? That uh, he doesn't 1517 01:15:05,560 --> 01:15:08,040 Speaker 2: want the UFC to be involved at all. In fact, 1518 01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:10,559 Speaker 2: he says this this fight would be managed by him 1519 01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:13,960 Speaker 2: and Zuck's foundations. The livestream would be on their platforms, 1520 01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:18,280 Speaker 2: and he's referencing a comment Dana White made on the 1521 01:15:18,320 --> 01:15:22,840 Speaker 2: Mike Tyson Hot Boxing podcast where Dana White said, I 1522 01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:25,599 Speaker 2: had just had a meeting with the Minister of Culture 1523 01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:33,840 Speaker 2: in Italy about doing this fight at the Roman colisseum Well, 1524 01:15:34,040 --> 01:15:37,280 Speaker 2: Zuck says it's over. I don't know if I should 1525 01:15:37,280 --> 01:15:40,200 Speaker 2: ask you like your reaction, because obviously your reaction is like, 1526 01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:44,559 Speaker 2: I'm glad f this, but in your in the People 1527 01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:48,280 Speaker 2: versus Dana White in twenty twenty three, his shameless like 1528 01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:52,040 Speaker 2: lust for this fight is it the worst part of 1529 01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:56,200 Speaker 2: Dana's public But you know, we've had wife slap, power slap. 1530 01:15:56,760 --> 01:15:58,800 Speaker 2: We've had a lot of bad Dana moments this year, 1531 01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:06,080 Speaker 2: the Zuck versus Musk charade. I mean, can we fill 1532 01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:08,040 Speaker 2: out good undercards and get out of the apex here 1533 01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:10,120 Speaker 2: and stop worrying about this BS, please. 1534 01:16:10,640 --> 01:16:13,200 Speaker 3: I'm fine with it from data on this one. It's 1535 01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:15,200 Speaker 3: better than when he hit his wife, so you know, 1536 01:16:15,479 --> 01:16:18,920 Speaker 3: at least we're not doing that anymore. It's great now, 1537 01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:21,760 Speaker 3: this is I get this one, which is why I 1538 01:16:23,320 --> 01:16:26,080 Speaker 3: maybe at some level can understand power slap, at least 1539 01:16:26,120 --> 01:16:28,120 Speaker 3: the idea behind it. But it's a very silly and 1540 01:16:28,160 --> 01:16:30,880 Speaker 3: stupid idea that's not going to work, So you should 1541 01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:33,040 Speaker 3: abandoned it and at least not shove it down my throat. 1542 01:16:33,240 --> 01:16:35,719 Speaker 3: But I've also largely like I'm not nearly as anti 1543 01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:37,960 Speaker 3: power slap, as many other people in this space are. 1544 01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:39,360 Speaker 3: I just kind of don't care and I don't have 1545 01:16:39,400 --> 01:16:42,679 Speaker 3: to engage with it in that way. I totally get 1546 01:16:42,680 --> 01:16:44,840 Speaker 3: this one because in the thing where he says he 1547 01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:48,080 Speaker 3: talked to the Minister of Italy or Italian Commerce or 1548 01:16:48,080 --> 01:16:52,320 Speaker 3: whatever it was, he very explicitly is like, hey, this 1549 01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:54,360 Speaker 3: would be the biggest fight in the history of the planet. 1550 01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:56,839 Speaker 3: I think that this would do a billion dollars in revenue, 1551 01:16:57,120 --> 01:17:00,360 Speaker 3: And well, maybe that's high. The other part of it 1552 01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:02,760 Speaker 3: are all right, if these two dudes ever were to fight, 1553 01:17:03,280 --> 01:17:07,120 Speaker 3: it would be a cultural event on of the likes 1554 01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:09,639 Speaker 3: we haven't seen in at modern times. 1555 01:17:09,800 --> 01:17:12,160 Speaker 2: You're saying it would be bigger than Joe Frasier versus 1556 01:17:12,240 --> 01:17:14,040 Speaker 2: Muhammad al Leap Part one in Medison Square Garden. 1557 01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:19,920 Speaker 3: Is that what you're saying? Yes, yes, quality, it's not 1558 01:17:19,960 --> 01:17:23,800 Speaker 3: from quality obviously, but more people would watch that fight 1559 01:17:24,280 --> 01:17:28,840 Speaker 3: than anything other than the World Cup, maybe, like legitimately, 1560 01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:31,120 Speaker 3: because the World Cup does like a billion viewers or 1561 01:17:31,160 --> 01:17:35,360 Speaker 3: whatever globally. Outside of that, Like, I don't think anything's 1562 01:17:35,439 --> 01:17:38,400 Speaker 3: gonna touch what these two actually fighting would do. So 1563 01:17:38,479 --> 01:17:42,280 Speaker 3: I get Dana's play for the money, Like, hey, you 1564 01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:46,840 Speaker 3: gotta WM's got that, got that loan note, carry on them, 1565 01:17:47,160 --> 01:17:49,280 Speaker 3: try to pay off like that that can cover it all. 1566 01:17:49,640 --> 01:17:52,639 Speaker 3: So I get it. So it's fine with it. It's 1567 01:17:52,720 --> 01:17:55,599 Speaker 3: is it shameless and stupid, of course, But this whole 1568 01:17:55,640 --> 01:17:59,519 Speaker 3: thing has been very dumb. U I I think it's 1569 01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:04,640 Speaker 3: been very I can you just think of how deranged 1570 01:18:04,680 --> 01:18:08,000 Speaker 3: a person you have to be to make Mark Zuckerberg 1571 01:18:08,080 --> 01:18:11,920 Speaker 3: come off as like a totally chill, reasonable guy, Like 1572 01:18:12,479 --> 01:18:17,160 Speaker 3: think about the caricature zuck was like six months ago even, 1573 01:18:17,200 --> 01:18:20,080 Speaker 3: and now like, oh yeah, he's the rational one. He's like, 1574 01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:22,960 Speaker 3: he's the guy I rather have a beer with than 1575 01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:26,680 Speaker 3: this insane dude who's making the worst jokes possible and 1576 01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:29,479 Speaker 3: clearly ducking the fight like he clearly doesn't want anything 1577 01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:33,040 Speaker 3: to do suck. So it's it's insane. 1578 01:18:33,800 --> 01:18:36,840 Speaker 2: I know when they announced it, I did play Devil's 1579 01:18:36,840 --> 01:18:39,320 Speaker 2: Advocate with Luke, and I agree with you. If it happened, 1580 01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:42,000 Speaker 2: it would be just a bizarre crossover half to see it, 1581 01:18:42,080 --> 01:18:45,160 Speaker 2: the whole world would stop. I guess Dana's shame level 1582 01:18:45,400 --> 01:18:48,519 Speaker 2: of lusting after this was only compared in terms of 1583 01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:50,920 Speaker 2: his like I will get habim to get out of 1584 01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:54,439 Speaker 2: retirement watch and then you know, eighteen dinners later, Abem's like, no, 1585 01:18:54,560 --> 01:18:56,840 Speaker 2: I promised my late father leave me alone. I want 1586 01:18:56,840 --> 01:18:59,400 Speaker 2: to go get fat, right, So it's like, yeah, I 1587 01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:01,479 Speaker 2: don't know. Maybe I'm too deep in the in the 1588 01:19:01,520 --> 01:19:04,320 Speaker 2: anti Dana Weeds this year because he's made me. Maybe 1589 01:19:04,320 --> 01:19:05,000 Speaker 2: that's what happened. 1590 01:19:05,040 --> 01:19:07,840 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, no, this is this is not even close 1591 01:19:07,880 --> 01:19:09,920 Speaker 3: to the worst things Dana's done in a while. This 1592 01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:14,160 Speaker 3: is this is fine, Like I totally understand and can 1593 01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:15,519 Speaker 3: even appreciate this one. 1594 01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:18,559 Speaker 2: So there's this thing in pro wrestling fandom sometimes jed, 1595 01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:22,120 Speaker 2: where you know there could be short lived factions in 1596 01:19:22,200 --> 01:19:25,760 Speaker 2: pro wrestling, like you know, duos or whatever, or slogans 1597 01:19:25,760 --> 01:19:27,640 Speaker 2: that get popular and they make a T shirt about it, 1598 01:19:27,760 --> 01:19:29,720 Speaker 2: where you could say, as a fan, Hey, that's the 1599 01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:31,920 Speaker 2: lamest shit I've ever seen, but I better buy that 1600 01:19:31,960 --> 01:19:34,520 Speaker 2: T shirt now because in five years it'll be hilarious 1601 01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:37,080 Speaker 2: to roll that out right, like zoofa boxing T shirt 1602 01:19:37,160 --> 01:19:39,320 Speaker 2: for example, Is there any part of you that's, like, 1603 01:19:39,360 --> 01:19:41,240 Speaker 2: you know, I might secretly pick up one of those 1604 01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:44,800 Speaker 2: Zuck versus Musk at the UFC shop just so ten 1605 01:19:44,920 --> 01:19:47,360 Speaker 2: years from now at like, you know, growing out with 1606 01:19:47,400 --> 01:19:49,000 Speaker 2: my boys. I can pop everybody. 1607 01:19:49,080 --> 01:19:52,960 Speaker 3: No, no, I will do everything in my power not 1608 01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:55,719 Speaker 3: to give either of those gentlemen any of my dollars 1609 01:19:56,160 --> 01:19:57,759 Speaker 3: or contribute in any way to their. 1610 01:19:58,200 --> 01:20:00,360 Speaker 2: They're reading your emails right now, just so you know. 1611 01:20:00,479 --> 01:20:03,320 Speaker 3: Oh and that's fine. Look they I'm sure they have 1612 01:20:03,320 --> 01:20:05,000 Speaker 3: a lot of dirt on me, and that's okay. I 1613 01:20:05,040 --> 01:20:07,599 Speaker 3: will if this thing ever did happen, which it won't. 1614 01:20:07,600 --> 01:20:10,160 Speaker 3: I don't. It's it's not real. It is extremely false. 1615 01:20:10,680 --> 01:20:13,479 Speaker 3: If by a miracle it happened, I would campaign heavily 1616 01:20:13,560 --> 01:20:16,960 Speaker 3: to attend as a media member and to cover it live, 1617 01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:20,240 Speaker 3: because why not. Why not be part of the circus. 1618 01:20:20,240 --> 01:20:23,960 Speaker 3: The circus is fun sometimes, even if it's really really stupid, 1619 01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:24,960 Speaker 3: which is what this would be. 1620 01:20:25,080 --> 01:20:27,160 Speaker 2: It's hard for me to get all up at e 1621 01:20:27,240 --> 01:20:29,120 Speaker 2: and be mad because I like a lot of circus 1622 01:20:29,120 --> 01:20:32,040 Speaker 2: in my combat. But this is this is extreme. But hey, 1623 01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:37,120 Speaker 2: yeah my combat fifty two year old, the elon who 1624 01:20:37,560 --> 01:20:39,360 Speaker 2: I mean, it's Twitter really called X. I don't know 1625 01:20:39,400 --> 01:20:41,280 Speaker 2: what's happening in the world anymore. Let's move on. But 1626 01:20:41,360 --> 01:20:43,960 Speaker 2: Zuck is pretty fit, and speaking of being fit. 1627 01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:46,000 Speaker 3: Dude, Musk is afraid of him and he's calling him 1628 01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:50,519 Speaker 3: a chicken. It's incredible. He's like, this is incredible, incredible. 1629 01:20:52,200 --> 01:20:54,759 Speaker 2: Before we get to know Jed a little bit better 1630 01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:57,960 Speaker 2: here talking about Zuck's fit Bod, how about we talk 1631 01:20:58,000 --> 01:21:01,000 Speaker 2: about our sponsor, fit Body. Yes, all right, here's what 1632 01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:04,960 Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you. It's so perfect this summer. All right? 1633 01:21:05,000 --> 01:21:07,320 Speaker 2: Do you want to transform how you work out? 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I respect whoever wrote that 1671 01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:15,280 Speaker 3: copy because they're clearly a young person. About Oh well, 1672 01:23:15,320 --> 01:23:17,840 Speaker 3: then did you never do the map quest because you 1673 01:23:17,840 --> 01:23:21,439 Speaker 3: did never print out mapp in direction? Yeah? Because I 1674 01:23:21,479 --> 01:23:22,559 Speaker 3: absolutely did that? 1675 01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:26,840 Speaker 2: All right? Without further ado, we know Jed is not 1676 01:23:27,000 --> 01:23:29,320 Speaker 2: quite washed. But what else do we know about Jed? 1677 01:23:29,360 --> 01:23:29,479 Speaker 3: Hey? 1678 01:23:29,560 --> 01:23:33,600 Speaker 2: If if you're new to this guy like I recently. 1679 01:23:33,200 --> 01:23:35,879 Speaker 3: Was, welcome to the party, pal, Yeah. 1680 01:23:35,720 --> 01:23:41,720 Speaker 2: It's time to play getting to know Jed mushu the 1681 01:23:41,880 --> 01:23:44,360 Speaker 2: second there it is right there. Look at that quick 1682 01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:47,360 Speaker 2: graphic that they worked up right there, Jed, similar to 1683 01:23:47,400 --> 01:23:50,280 Speaker 2: what Luke has done with a bron lately. Filling in 1684 01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:54,680 Speaker 2: for me on Vakashi, I've got seven power packed questions 1685 01:23:54,720 --> 01:23:58,160 Speaker 2: here for our MK Award winning listeners to find out 1686 01:23:58,240 --> 01:24:01,719 Speaker 2: more about your did generate ass Are you ready? 1687 01:24:02,680 --> 01:24:05,639 Speaker 3: I don't know, but uh, let's do it, okay. 1688 01:24:06,040 --> 01:24:11,519 Speaker 2: Topic number question one, Jed you'r aforementioned LinkedIn page says 1689 01:24:11,600 --> 01:24:14,280 Speaker 2: you have get this, Jed? Are you extra parently you 1690 01:24:14,280 --> 01:24:18,920 Speaker 2: did get this a doctorate in law from Georgia State University. 1691 01:24:18,960 --> 01:24:22,080 Speaker 3: Holy shit, dude, I'm a college tramp out. Oh my god. 1692 01:24:22,120 --> 01:24:25,599 Speaker 2: So here's my question, Jed, congratulations. First of all, didn't 1693 01:24:25,640 --> 01:24:28,719 Speaker 2: see this coming. Why the hell are you covering cage 1694 01:24:28,760 --> 01:24:30,200 Speaker 2: fighting for a living? Dude? 1695 01:24:31,479 --> 01:24:34,559 Speaker 3: Uh, it's funny you say that. I sometimes have that 1696 01:24:35,160 --> 01:24:38,320 Speaker 3: exact thought when things get real dumb and you're doing 1697 01:24:38,920 --> 01:24:41,840 Speaker 3: like you're deep into covering a Bellator card, when it's 1698 01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:44,360 Speaker 3: been a thousand decisions, and you're like, I could be 1699 01:24:44,400 --> 01:24:47,479 Speaker 3: an attorney right now. Why did I make this choice 1700 01:24:47,479 --> 01:24:50,000 Speaker 3: of my life? The answer is because being an attorney 1701 01:24:50,120 --> 01:24:52,600 Speaker 3: largely sucks. If anyone out there is watching this and 1702 01:24:52,680 --> 01:24:54,879 Speaker 3: is an attorney, I bet they agree with me because 1703 01:24:55,160 --> 01:24:58,200 Speaker 3: most of the attorneys I either went to law school with, 1704 01:24:58,280 --> 01:25:00,479 Speaker 3: or I know outside of it, or like, just a 1705 01:25:00,479 --> 01:25:04,040 Speaker 3: lot of the job is really trash. My personal experience 1706 01:25:04,080 --> 01:25:08,160 Speaker 3: of it was the only fulfilling work paid like shit 1707 01:25:08,479 --> 01:25:11,920 Speaker 3: because you're doing you know, public defense or whatever, which 1708 01:25:11,960 --> 01:25:15,360 Speaker 3: is extremely stressful and pays like shit, but at least 1709 01:25:15,400 --> 01:25:18,719 Speaker 3: you're doing something that feels meaningful. Or all the things 1710 01:25:18,760 --> 01:25:23,120 Speaker 3: that pay really well are morally questionable to say the 1711 01:25:23,200 --> 01:25:26,760 Speaker 3: least so I bounced pretty quickly into my law career. 1712 01:25:26,800 --> 01:25:28,599 Speaker 3: I was like, this just isn't for me. Let's find 1713 01:25:28,640 --> 01:25:29,040 Speaker 3: something else. 1714 01:25:29,560 --> 01:25:31,920 Speaker 2: You did the work. Have you got a you're a doctor, 1715 01:25:32,040 --> 01:25:34,639 Speaker 2: your doctor, Jed Meshew number two, that's true. 1716 01:25:35,160 --> 01:25:37,879 Speaker 3: Technically that is true. Yes, I do have a doctorate. 1717 01:25:37,960 --> 01:25:40,920 Speaker 3: I can go around. Most attorneys do not do so. 1718 01:25:41,080 --> 01:25:44,320 Speaker 2: But the same conversation I had with Luke Thomas when 1719 01:25:44,360 --> 01:25:46,759 Speaker 2: he revealed to me that he was formerly a Washington, 1720 01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:49,599 Speaker 2: d C. Speech writer for some of the most famous 1721 01:25:49,640 --> 01:25:53,240 Speaker 2: politicians over the last twenty years, I'm like, why are 1722 01:25:53,400 --> 01:25:58,800 Speaker 2: you covering bellator from South Dakota? Then? Congratulations, Jed. I 1723 01:25:58,800 --> 01:26:01,200 Speaker 2: mean you've you've turned this into a very viable career 1724 01:26:01,320 --> 01:26:03,520 Speaker 2: or a full time writer a heck of a podcaster. 1725 01:26:03,720 --> 01:26:07,960 Speaker 2: But if I should step outside of the law, can 1726 01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:08,559 Speaker 2: you defend me? 1727 01:26:09,560 --> 01:26:12,040 Speaker 3: Not now, I can't. I let my bar by bar 1728 01:26:12,160 --> 01:26:15,599 Speaker 3: passage lapse because it wasn't gonna use it. I mean 1729 01:26:15,640 --> 01:26:17,479 Speaker 3: I could get it back if you like really needed 1730 01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:21,759 Speaker 3: me to, I guess, but you want me making your case. 1731 01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:26,559 Speaker 2: Let's see if I end up getting fired for something 1732 01:26:26,560 --> 01:26:28,640 Speaker 2: I said, were you on the defense or were you 1733 01:26:29,040 --> 01:26:30,200 Speaker 2: for the good guys? Where were you? 1734 01:26:31,400 --> 01:26:33,040 Speaker 3: I largely did plain network. 1735 01:26:34,240 --> 01:26:36,880 Speaker 2: Interesting stuff there. Question number two on getting to know 1736 01:26:37,000 --> 01:26:43,320 Speaker 2: Jed which fight is most responsible for igniting your MMA fandom? 1737 01:26:44,240 --> 01:26:48,920 Speaker 3: Ooh, it's a really good question. So I've been in 1738 01:26:49,120 --> 01:26:52,480 Speaker 3: MFM for a very long time. I first got introduced 1739 01:26:52,479 --> 01:26:55,679 Speaker 3: to it pre like two thousand and two, two thousand 1740 01:26:55,680 --> 01:26:58,479 Speaker 3: and three, when I was in high school, just making 1741 01:26:58,479 --> 01:27:01,080 Speaker 3: that transition up from middle school high school. But I 1742 01:27:01,120 --> 01:27:03,719 Speaker 3: wasn't like deeply ingrained in the sport. I just kind 1743 01:27:03,720 --> 01:27:06,240 Speaker 3: of would see some fights every now and again. I 1744 01:27:06,280 --> 01:27:10,360 Speaker 3: think the it's very very stupid. Uh. The first season, 1745 01:27:10,360 --> 01:27:12,720 Speaker 3: the Tough like did a lot to sort of make 1746 01:27:12,760 --> 01:27:16,080 Speaker 3: that more accessible. I think the first fight that I 1747 01:27:16,120 --> 01:27:18,479 Speaker 3: really watched and was like, this is very very dumb, 1748 01:27:18,600 --> 01:27:23,960 Speaker 3: but I'm now I'm now all in was It's either 1749 01:27:24,920 --> 01:27:29,960 Speaker 3: Fade or versus Zuluzeno because that was just hilarious and 1750 01:27:30,000 --> 01:27:32,960 Speaker 3: I watched that clip like a billion times. I think 1751 01:27:33,000 --> 01:27:35,280 Speaker 3: the first pay per view that was ever like a 1752 01:27:35,320 --> 01:27:38,880 Speaker 3: really big one was Matt Hughes Frank Trig two. 1753 01:27:39,760 --> 01:27:42,640 Speaker 2: I watch the Running Slam or was that the first one? 1754 01:27:42,680 --> 01:27:44,880 Speaker 3: I mean they were both the same, but yeah, yeah, 1755 01:27:44,920 --> 01:27:47,400 Speaker 3: the Running Slam finished like that was I think that 1756 01:27:47,479 --> 01:27:49,160 Speaker 3: was the first pay per view I ever watched with 1757 01:27:49,200 --> 01:27:51,840 Speaker 3: like some friends and was like, oh, this is very 1758 01:27:51,920 --> 01:27:54,679 Speaker 3: very cool. And then I started to do the forum 1759 01:27:54,760 --> 01:27:57,759 Speaker 3: thing a little bit, you know, being an Internet kid. 1760 01:27:58,000 --> 01:28:01,840 Speaker 3: And then when Fade or Beatsuluzino was like this rules, 1761 01:28:02,160 --> 01:28:04,280 Speaker 3: this is this is it for me. I'm here now. 1762 01:28:05,360 --> 01:28:08,639 Speaker 2: I didn't expect Fade or zuluzin you, but everybody does 1763 01:28:08,680 --> 01:28:12,759 Speaker 2: have a entry point. I watched early ufcs on black 1764 01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:15,080 Speaker 2: Box pay per view, the first four or five, like 1765 01:28:15,120 --> 01:28:17,360 Speaker 2: a lot of people, and I was in and out 1766 01:28:17,360 --> 01:28:20,960 Speaker 2: on fandom. I mean I watched like, remember when UFC 1767 01:28:21,000 --> 01:28:23,200 Speaker 2: would be on Best Damn Sports Show a lot, they 1768 01:28:23,400 --> 01:28:25,800 Speaker 2: like Shamrock be on there, and I was watching in 1769 01:28:25,840 --> 01:28:29,479 Speaker 2: and out then. But it was really the the Chuck 1770 01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:32,520 Speaker 2: Liddell getting knocked out by Rampage was the fight that 1771 01:28:32,520 --> 01:28:35,080 Speaker 2: that brought back on like a deep level because I 1772 01:28:35,080 --> 01:28:36,920 Speaker 2: was working at ESPN and that was the first time 1773 01:28:37,400 --> 01:28:40,679 Speaker 2: they took it seriously that they were like, there's something 1774 01:28:40,720 --> 01:28:42,520 Speaker 2: in this sport, you know what I'm saying. 1775 01:28:42,840 --> 01:28:46,559 Speaker 3: That that was the first fight that I probably spent 1776 01:28:46,680 --> 01:28:50,360 Speaker 3: like the most time thinking about as them doing them 1777 01:28:50,360 --> 01:28:52,360 Speaker 3: doing that rematch and like it was so built up, 1778 01:28:52,400 --> 01:28:54,280 Speaker 3: and I was like, I really don't know who to pick. 1779 01:28:54,800 --> 01:28:57,240 Speaker 3: Chuck has looked so good, but like Rampage already has 1780 01:28:57,240 --> 01:28:59,080 Speaker 3: the win blah blah blah. And then it was over 1781 01:28:59,400 --> 01:29:01,200 Speaker 3: very quickly, and I was like, oh, I'm an idiot. 1782 01:29:01,439 --> 01:29:03,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, Chuck was on the cover of ESPN the magazine 1783 01:29:03,760 --> 01:29:05,639 Speaker 2: at that point, which was like a really big deal 1784 01:29:05,680 --> 01:29:09,240 Speaker 2: for cage fighting. There you go. Indeed, not quite Roger A. 1785 01:29:09,280 --> 01:29:13,240 Speaker 2: Werta on Sports Illustrated. But question number three, Jed Michu, 1786 01:29:13,640 --> 01:29:15,879 Speaker 2: what is your alcohol drink of choice? 1787 01:29:16,640 --> 01:29:19,439 Speaker 3: Oh, this is easy. I am from the South. I 1788 01:29:19,439 --> 01:29:22,800 Speaker 3: was born and raised in the South. I've functionally lived 1789 01:29:22,800 --> 01:29:25,679 Speaker 3: in the South my entire life, except for a brief 1790 01:29:25,720 --> 01:29:28,080 Speaker 3: period where I lived in Vegas doing the gambling thing. 1791 01:29:29,280 --> 01:29:33,400 Speaker 3: Give me bourbon and we can start there. And then 1792 01:29:33,400 --> 01:29:35,760 Speaker 3: my mixer is going to either be ginger ail or 1793 01:29:35,760 --> 01:29:38,559 Speaker 3: sweet tea. You can do it neat, but I if 1794 01:29:38,600 --> 01:29:40,800 Speaker 3: I'm having several, I will need a mixer. I'm not 1795 01:29:40,840 --> 01:29:41,360 Speaker 3: that manly. 1796 01:29:41,560 --> 01:29:43,120 Speaker 2: That's very south of you. I like that. 1797 01:29:43,280 --> 01:29:47,160 Speaker 3: I like extremely southern there. It is all right, bourban 1798 01:29:47,200 --> 01:29:49,280 Speaker 3: and sweet tea is the drink of the gods, as 1799 01:29:49,280 --> 01:29:50,080 Speaker 3: far as I'm concerned. 1800 01:29:50,160 --> 01:29:51,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think I've ever had that. I'm not 1801 01:29:51,800 --> 01:29:53,639 Speaker 2: a bourbon guy, you know, I mean, I got to play. 1802 01:29:53,640 --> 01:29:56,360 Speaker 3: It'll change your life. BC. Next time you come to 1803 01:29:56,400 --> 01:29:59,080 Speaker 3: the A, I'll introduce you. You'll never go back. I'm 1804 01:29:59,120 --> 01:30:01,960 Speaker 3: also a wild term is my casual bourbon of choice 1805 01:30:01,960 --> 01:30:02,679 Speaker 3: for those wondering. 1806 01:30:02,960 --> 01:30:05,240 Speaker 2: All right, there you go. But you can buy all 1807 01:30:05,280 --> 01:30:07,760 Speaker 2: you single ladies can buy or single men, depending on 1808 01:30:07,800 --> 01:30:09,960 Speaker 2: your lean, Jed can buy you a drink when they 1809 01:30:09,960 --> 01:30:12,400 Speaker 2: see you out. Thank you. Question number four, getting to 1810 01:30:12,439 --> 01:30:17,080 Speaker 2: know Jed better as a former, pre established professional gambler 1811 01:30:17,120 --> 01:30:20,800 Speaker 2: living in Las Vegas, what was your most degenerate rock 1812 01:30:20,840 --> 01:30:21,559 Speaker 2: bottom moment? 1813 01:30:22,720 --> 01:30:27,080 Speaker 3: My most rock bottom moment was earlier this year. I 1814 01:30:27,160 --> 01:30:31,920 Speaker 3: don't know if you were aware of this. PC. Valentineashipchenko 1815 01:30:32,160 --> 01:30:36,400 Speaker 3: been a pretty big supporter of her and against Tyler Santos. 1816 01:30:36,479 --> 01:30:40,280 Speaker 3: I very boldly put my entire gambling bankroll on her, 1817 01:30:40,680 --> 01:30:43,080 Speaker 3: and that was a sweat. It was a big, big sweat. 1818 01:30:43,320 --> 01:30:45,360 Speaker 3: And then I was like, you know what, Alexa Grasso, 1819 01:30:45,920 --> 01:30:48,880 Speaker 3: she can't win this fight. There's just nothing I've seen 1820 01:30:48,920 --> 01:30:51,200 Speaker 3: her do has led me to believe that she could 1821 01:30:51,200 --> 01:30:53,599 Speaker 3: win this fight. We ran it back and. 1822 01:30:54,240 --> 01:30:56,519 Speaker 2: Oh boy, you lost it all. Dude, you lost it all. 1823 01:30:56,600 --> 01:31:01,439 Speaker 3: Lost the entire gambling bankroll, which was it? Fun? Is 1824 01:31:01,479 --> 01:31:05,240 Speaker 3: that more than a month than there's certainly more than 1825 01:31:05,280 --> 01:31:10,439 Speaker 3: a month rent. You know, I'm not destitute because I'm not. 1826 01:31:10,920 --> 01:31:13,280 Speaker 3: I'm smart enough not to gamble with money. I don't 1827 01:31:13,320 --> 01:31:17,800 Speaker 3: have to lose. But uh, there's a clip running around 1828 01:31:17,880 --> 01:31:20,880 Speaker 3: in the internet somewheres of me. It was I was. 1829 01:31:20,920 --> 01:31:22,960 Speaker 3: I was on the m Fighting watch party for that 1830 01:31:23,000 --> 01:31:26,160 Speaker 3: fight with the esteem Mike Heck and Connor Burks, and 1831 01:31:26,240 --> 01:31:28,400 Speaker 3: we watched it live so you can see a live 1832 01:31:28,479 --> 01:31:30,960 Speaker 3: reaction too. I got to look at that, to a 1833 01:31:31,000 --> 01:31:37,000 Speaker 3: man losing a substantial someone money, the opposite of watching 1834 01:31:37,120 --> 01:31:41,000 Speaker 3: Robbie Fox celebrate, Uh, Connor beating Donald Seroni from ringside 1835 01:31:41,000 --> 01:31:42,439 Speaker 3: with his laptop cam. 1836 01:31:42,479 --> 01:31:43,920 Speaker 2: It was the opposite of that, right. 1837 01:31:44,439 --> 01:31:48,519 Speaker 3: It It was probably wasn't like the worst moment of 1838 01:31:48,560 --> 01:31:50,920 Speaker 3: my life, because there are more important things that have 1839 01:31:51,000 --> 01:31:54,040 Speaker 3: happened out there. But like, it wasn't a good one. 1840 01:31:54,160 --> 01:31:54,920 Speaker 2: It's pretty bad. 1841 01:31:55,720 --> 01:31:55,840 Speaker 1: Uh. 1842 01:31:56,439 --> 01:32:00,160 Speaker 3: We we we got we had to recover. But I 1843 01:32:00,160 --> 01:32:02,920 Speaker 3: I'm trying to approach it with a rosy outlook. I 1844 01:32:03,000 --> 01:32:05,160 Speaker 3: might just run it back again because now my gambling 1845 01:32:05,160 --> 01:32:08,120 Speaker 3: bankroll is much much smaller since I had to start over. 1846 01:32:08,600 --> 01:32:12,360 Speaker 3: But that is absolutely crost DJed moment. For sure. 1847 01:32:12,600 --> 01:32:15,960 Speaker 2: I am a very limited gambler, just dabbled over the 1848 01:32:16,040 --> 01:32:18,040 Speaker 2: years here and there. But there was a point in 1849 01:32:18,080 --> 01:32:21,080 Speaker 2: my gross years in my early twenties where I was like, 1850 01:32:21,200 --> 01:32:23,320 Speaker 2: you know what, if I don't come up with some 1851 01:32:23,400 --> 01:32:25,040 Speaker 2: type of cash, I'm gonna have to move back home 1852 01:32:25,080 --> 01:32:27,800 Speaker 2: and that would be shameful. So I'm going to drive 1853 01:32:27,880 --> 01:32:31,240 Speaker 2: an hour to Foxwoods and put my entire what I've 1854 01:32:31,240 --> 01:32:34,040 Speaker 2: got left down on like an all or nothing roulette 1855 01:32:34,040 --> 01:32:36,880 Speaker 2: fifty to fifty type bed and oh yeah, and you 1856 01:32:36,920 --> 01:32:39,240 Speaker 2: know what happened. I drove there and I walked in 1857 01:32:39,360 --> 01:32:41,960 Speaker 2: and I didn't have the balls to do it, and 1858 01:32:42,080 --> 01:32:43,720 Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, this is good. This is the end. 1859 01:32:43,760 --> 01:32:45,160 Speaker 2: This is the end for me. Okay, this is it. 1860 01:32:45,280 --> 01:32:46,920 Speaker 2: This is it. So I turned around and drove right 1861 01:32:46,960 --> 01:32:47,320 Speaker 2: back home. 1862 01:32:47,920 --> 01:32:51,040 Speaker 3: It's very reasonable of you, but the story's much better 1863 01:32:51,160 --> 01:32:53,160 Speaker 3: it to do it. And then it comes up green. 1864 01:32:53,600 --> 01:32:55,760 Speaker 2: Question number five. This is more of a you know 1865 01:32:55,880 --> 01:32:59,280 Speaker 2: question named at your boy BC. But I'm curious, Jed, 1866 01:33:00,320 --> 01:33:02,559 Speaker 2: in your opinion, who's the greatest straweight and you have 1867 01:33:02,600 --> 01:33:07,400 Speaker 2: the history. And I don't mean who's your favorite, I 1868 01:33:07,520 --> 01:33:08,920 Speaker 2: G follow your dirt hole. 1869 01:33:10,600 --> 01:33:13,519 Speaker 3: I don't follow any fighters on i G. It's just 1870 01:33:13,720 --> 01:33:15,320 Speaker 3: it's too hard. There's a lot of them. 1871 01:33:15,520 --> 01:33:16,040 Speaker 2: Uh. 1872 01:33:16,760 --> 01:33:18,840 Speaker 3: I think it's the AUNI and J. I think that 1873 01:33:18,920 --> 01:33:20,920 Speaker 3: I feel comfortable calling you Annie and j Jake the 1874 01:33:20,960 --> 01:33:21,799 Speaker 3: best strawweight. 1875 01:33:22,680 --> 01:33:26,920 Speaker 2: And even though Rose beat her twice and Whaley twice, 1876 01:33:27,640 --> 01:33:28,400 Speaker 2: are you serious? 1877 01:33:29,080 --> 01:33:33,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, you could make a very compelling argument for Rouzen 1878 01:33:33,240 --> 01:33:36,000 Speaker 3: not here to say Rose is even wrong. But for me, 1879 01:33:36,840 --> 01:33:40,880 Speaker 3: when you are one half the losing half of the 1880 01:33:40,920 --> 01:33:45,800 Speaker 3: worst fight in modern history, you that that's a big 1881 01:33:45,800 --> 01:33:52,800 Speaker 3: point against you. Roses rematch with Carlo was awful in 1882 01:33:52,840 --> 01:33:56,719 Speaker 3: a way that really makes me, like reevaluate her whole career. 1883 01:33:57,720 --> 01:34:00,920 Speaker 3: And maybe that's unfair, but like you and I have 1884 01:34:01,000 --> 01:34:03,120 Speaker 3: had this argument about other fighters and other things. I 1885 01:34:03,160 --> 01:34:07,439 Speaker 3: put a ton of stock in title defenses and being 1886 01:34:07,520 --> 01:34:10,400 Speaker 3: at the top of the mountain, and Joanna has done 1887 01:34:10,400 --> 01:34:13,240 Speaker 3: that more than anyone. I think Wayley has a chance 1888 01:34:13,400 --> 01:34:15,760 Speaker 3: to sort of take the reins, but I also think 1889 01:34:15,800 --> 01:34:19,160 Speaker 3: Tatiana Suarez is she coming, and I don't know how 1890 01:34:19,200 --> 01:34:20,120 Speaker 3: that works out for way. 1891 01:34:20,360 --> 01:34:22,400 Speaker 2: I got ross, got some balls moving up to fight 1892 01:34:22,479 --> 01:34:22,960 Speaker 2: for Oh. 1893 01:34:24,720 --> 01:34:28,439 Speaker 3: It's a very questionable move. I think she's gonna do 1894 01:34:28,479 --> 01:34:28,960 Speaker 3: well against her. 1895 01:34:28,960 --> 01:34:31,160 Speaker 2: She needs, she said, she needs things that scare her 1896 01:34:31,200 --> 01:34:33,680 Speaker 2: at this point in her career. Aspars apparently didn't scare her. 1897 01:34:33,760 --> 01:34:34,080 Speaker 2: I don't. 1898 01:34:34,320 --> 01:34:37,800 Speaker 3: I don't understand that. Are like, look, if if that's 1899 01:34:37,880 --> 01:34:39,800 Speaker 3: the case, then okay, maybe that's what brings me. 1900 01:34:39,840 --> 01:34:41,559 Speaker 2: She thinks it brings out the best in her when 1901 01:34:41,600 --> 01:34:44,679 Speaker 2: she's not expected necessarily to dominate as opposed to the opposite. 1902 01:34:44,720 --> 01:34:47,040 Speaker 2: And I do understand that we're all human, yes, Jed, 1903 01:34:47,080 --> 01:34:51,120 Speaker 2: we're all human. Okay, don't talk about yeah you want. 1904 01:34:51,120 --> 01:34:53,000 Speaker 3: At some point, she should have been scared that she 1905 01:34:53,280 --> 01:34:56,640 Speaker 3: wasn't doing anything. It was gonna lose her belt to Carla. 1906 01:34:57,960 --> 01:35:01,400 Speaker 2: Joanna is the most decorated and absolutely savage. Arguably my 1907 01:35:01,439 --> 01:35:04,240 Speaker 2: favorite fighter effort. Let's keep it going. Number six, Jed, 1908 01:35:05,400 --> 01:35:08,559 Speaker 2: what was the most white trash part of your Georgia upbringing. 1909 01:35:08,640 --> 01:35:10,280 Speaker 2: Let's be fair, Let's put all the cards on the 1910 01:35:10,280 --> 01:35:12,479 Speaker 2: table here, because you know I grew up beating at 1911 01:35:12,479 --> 01:35:14,280 Speaker 2: seven to eleven a lot. You know people know this 1912 01:35:14,360 --> 01:35:15,880 Speaker 2: about my raccoon past. 1913 01:35:16,880 --> 01:35:18,960 Speaker 3: So this is an easy one. I this has never 1914 01:35:19,040 --> 01:35:20,960 Speaker 3: come out in any of the stuff I've done over 1915 01:35:21,000 --> 01:35:25,400 Speaker 3: the last like seven years, but you're gonna love this piece. 1916 01:35:25,960 --> 01:35:27,960 Speaker 3: This is gonna be your favorite piece of information ever. 1917 01:35:28,760 --> 01:35:28,880 Speaker 4: Uh. 1918 01:35:29,520 --> 01:35:34,960 Speaker 3: For my entire youth, until I was seventeen years old, 1919 01:35:35,200 --> 01:35:40,320 Speaker 3: I had a rat tail. And I want to be 1920 01:35:39,920 --> 01:35:41,880 Speaker 3: I want to be I had one fourth grade. 1921 01:35:41,680 --> 01:35:42,880 Speaker 2: Dude that I cut that off. 1922 01:35:42,880 --> 01:35:45,559 Speaker 3: All right, come on, I want to be extremely clear. 1923 01:35:45,600 --> 01:35:48,720 Speaker 3: When I say I had a rat tail, We're not 1924 01:35:48,800 --> 01:35:51,960 Speaker 3: talking about like a rat tail. Like we're talking about 1925 01:35:52,400 --> 01:35:56,280 Speaker 3: a rat tail. Oh, I had a rat tail. I'm 1926 01:35:56,320 --> 01:35:58,880 Speaker 3: from Savannah, Georgia. I swear to God, if you ask 1927 01:35:59,000 --> 01:36:02,759 Speaker 3: anyone relatively close to my age range from that city, 1928 01:36:03,120 --> 01:36:05,080 Speaker 3: if you know who Jed Mushu is, they may say no, 1929 01:36:05,280 --> 01:36:07,360 Speaker 3: like right, like it's it's a it's a town. It's 1930 01:36:07,360 --> 01:36:09,600 Speaker 3: not like small, but it's not big. But if you 1931 01:36:09,640 --> 01:36:12,960 Speaker 3: ask basically anyone relatively my age rage you remember the 1932 01:36:13,040 --> 01:36:14,719 Speaker 3: kid with the rat tail? They would be like, sure, 1933 01:36:14,760 --> 01:36:19,760 Speaker 3: do kid played soccer with the ratail? Yep, it's the 1934 01:36:19,840 --> 01:36:22,559 Speaker 3: easiest answer in my life. I've I've hidden that fact 1935 01:36:22,720 --> 01:36:25,040 Speaker 3: for the last second. Did you have a nickname? Did 1936 01:36:25,040 --> 01:36:27,280 Speaker 3: they call you like a lot of people called me 1937 01:36:27,400 --> 01:36:27,760 Speaker 3: rat Tail. 1938 01:36:27,960 --> 01:36:30,320 Speaker 2: That's a fantastic nickname, because when I think Ratail, I 1939 01:36:30,320 --> 01:36:32,640 Speaker 2: think like tough guy rat Tail, like Lucas Matisa and 1940 01:36:32,720 --> 01:36:35,400 Speaker 2: Box saying, you know, like no, no, you've got a 1941 01:36:35,439 --> 01:36:36,080 Speaker 2: dirt hole round. 1942 01:36:36,160 --> 01:36:39,000 Speaker 3: No, this was this was This was yay long, maybe 1943 01:36:39,040 --> 01:36:40,200 Speaker 3: slightly bigger and braided. 1944 01:36:40,800 --> 01:36:42,720 Speaker 2: First of all, I need a picture for the next 1945 01:36:42,760 --> 01:36:45,280 Speaker 2: time you appear. And second of all, I'm gonna guess 1946 01:36:45,320 --> 01:36:47,000 Speaker 2: you were celibate during those years. 1947 01:36:48,000 --> 01:36:53,200 Speaker 3: Uh, Look, it didn't. I maintained strongly that it turned 1948 01:36:53,200 --> 01:36:55,800 Speaker 3: me into who I am today, because when I was 1949 01:36:55,880 --> 01:36:58,519 Speaker 3: really small, I would just fight everybody who like picked 1950 01:36:58,560 --> 01:37:00,760 Speaker 3: on me, and nobody picked on me. And then you 1951 01:37:00,800 --> 01:37:04,719 Speaker 3: stop being five or whatever, and people grow at different rates, 1952 01:37:04,720 --> 01:37:06,880 Speaker 3: and then you start trying to punch people who make 1953 01:37:06,920 --> 01:37:10,000 Speaker 3: fun of you, and you start getting your ass eat 1954 01:37:10,280 --> 01:37:13,040 Speaker 3: so you can't you can't pick fights anymore because it's 1955 01:37:13,040 --> 01:37:15,920 Speaker 3: no longer whoever throws the first punch wins. So then 1956 01:37:15,920 --> 01:37:19,160 Speaker 3: I just turned into me. Look, it probably wasn't the 1957 01:37:19,160 --> 01:37:21,919 Speaker 3: best choice it's ever been made. It just sort of happened. 1958 01:37:23,280 --> 01:37:25,960 Speaker 3: It just it happened, and then there it was, and 1959 01:37:26,000 --> 01:37:30,639 Speaker 3: then it finally left and you are correct. PC. Upon 1960 01:37:30,720 --> 01:37:34,559 Speaker 3: its exit, I had much more success, like. 1961 01:37:34,520 --> 01:37:37,040 Speaker 2: A hand coach. I'm now ready to play yes. So 1962 01:37:37,080 --> 01:37:40,200 Speaker 2: I from ages eighteen to twenty, I had an on 1963 01:37:40,280 --> 01:37:41,840 Speaker 2: it so I can only grow face. I still can't 1964 01:37:41,840 --> 01:37:44,200 Speaker 2: grow facial hair as people can see. But from eighteen 1965 01:37:44,240 --> 01:37:46,080 Speaker 2: to twenty, the only place I can grow facial air 1966 01:37:46,120 --> 01:37:47,479 Speaker 2: was on my chin. So I had a go tea 1967 01:37:47,520 --> 01:37:51,439 Speaker 2: that curled under like the grossest goatee. But I was 1968 01:37:51,479 --> 01:37:53,840 Speaker 2: just so happy that I could finally grow something. I 1969 01:37:53,880 --> 01:37:56,479 Speaker 2: didn't have to shave until I was like sorry. I 1970 01:37:56,520 --> 01:37:59,800 Speaker 2: didn't have to shave with shaving cream, by the way, 1971 01:38:00,200 --> 01:38:02,880 Speaker 2: until I was like twenty one. So the fact that 1972 01:38:02,920 --> 01:38:04,960 Speaker 2: I could actually grow something in one spot, I just 1973 01:38:05,040 --> 01:38:09,080 Speaker 2: let it go and it like it curled under like disgusting, 1974 01:38:09,280 --> 01:38:11,560 Speaker 2: by the way, real quick nugget. I worked at McDonald's 1975 01:38:12,040 --> 01:38:14,760 Speaker 2: beginning of nineteen ninety five, and they had a no 1976 01:38:14,880 --> 01:38:17,360 Speaker 2: facial hair rule below the lip. I've told the story 1977 01:38:17,400 --> 01:38:20,000 Speaker 2: before how I had a date my senior year high 1978 01:38:20,000 --> 01:38:21,680 Speaker 2: school that was coming up, so and I had a 1979 01:38:21,680 --> 01:38:23,840 Speaker 2: good goate going, so I put a band aid over 1980 01:38:23,920 --> 01:38:25,760 Speaker 2: it to make it look like I was injured so 1981 01:38:25,800 --> 01:38:28,160 Speaker 2: I could work to casture, But they had this thing 1982 01:38:28,240 --> 01:38:30,400 Speaker 2: in the back and the first aid kit called the 1983 01:38:30,479 --> 01:38:33,200 Speaker 2: community razor, And if you showed up for work with 1984 01:38:33,280 --> 01:38:35,879 Speaker 2: a five o'clock shadow and hadn't shaved it, the manager 1985 01:38:35,920 --> 01:38:38,320 Speaker 2: would say, go use the community razor, which had no 1986 01:38:38,400 --> 01:38:41,040 Speaker 2: shaving cream and had been used before by many peoples 1987 01:38:41,360 --> 01:38:43,640 Speaker 2: and were piece You were expected to dip it in 1988 01:38:43,680 --> 01:38:46,400 Speaker 2: hot water and just shave off. I mean, this is 1989 01:38:46,479 --> 01:38:48,920 Speaker 2: you know. Would you be surprised that when I worked 1990 01:38:48,960 --> 01:38:52,040 Speaker 2: at McDonald's they still sold pizza? And I've seen pizza 1991 01:38:52,120 --> 01:38:54,080 Speaker 2: dropped on the floor and picked right back up and 1992 01:38:54,120 --> 01:38:55,639 Speaker 2: served many times. 1993 01:38:56,040 --> 01:38:59,040 Speaker 3: I didn't know that McDonald's ever sold pizzas they did, 1994 01:38:59,040 --> 01:39:00,880 Speaker 3: but it was wonky because it took a half hour 1995 01:39:00,960 --> 01:39:02,800 Speaker 3: to end to McDonald's. 1996 01:39:02,920 --> 01:39:05,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, well then it's McDonald's on top of that. Uh 1997 01:39:05,479 --> 01:39:08,320 Speaker 2: finally number seven, Jed, I just found out, and you 1998 01:39:08,400 --> 01:39:10,240 Speaker 2: and I talked about this pre show. I had no idea, 1999 01:39:10,280 --> 01:39:12,679 Speaker 2: and I apologize that you didn't come onto my radar 2000 01:39:12,800 --> 01:39:15,600 Speaker 2: until relatively recently. Jed, I don't know if that's a 2001 01:39:15,600 --> 01:39:18,160 Speaker 2: me problem or you problem. I didn't know you worked 2002 01:39:18,200 --> 01:39:20,639 Speaker 2: with Luke Thomas at MMA Fighting. In fact, you guys 2003 01:39:20,840 --> 01:39:24,000 Speaker 2: did some videos together through the years. So here's my question, 2004 01:39:24,560 --> 01:39:29,559 Speaker 2: which unintentionally funny Luke Thomas character quirk is your favorite 2005 01:39:29,600 --> 01:39:31,520 Speaker 2: to laugh at. 2006 01:39:32,200 --> 01:39:34,200 Speaker 3: I don't know if it's a character quirk, but I'm 2007 01:39:34,200 --> 01:39:37,639 Speaker 3: not sure people recognize that Luke is just a gigantic person, 2008 01:39:38,200 --> 01:39:40,920 Speaker 3: and it it just thrown me off every time I 2009 01:39:40,920 --> 01:39:44,479 Speaker 3: have been around like my foil level giganticism or what 2010 01:39:45,720 --> 01:39:48,519 Speaker 3: I mean, not like maybe not that big, but like 2011 01:39:48,760 --> 01:39:52,479 Speaker 3: just just a very large individual. And so like you're like, 2012 01:39:52,760 --> 01:39:56,320 Speaker 3: you're young, you know whatever. I was a twenty seven 2013 01:39:56,400 --> 01:39:58,960 Speaker 3: year old kid or whatever going to meet the MMA 2014 01:39:59,080 --> 01:40:01,479 Speaker 3: Fighting team and like like Luke Thomas, who I've watched 2015 01:40:01,520 --> 01:40:03,840 Speaker 3: for years and all this stuff, and like everybody else 2016 01:40:03,920 --> 01:40:07,519 Speaker 3: like Arielhiwani's like a little taller than average or whatever. 2017 01:40:07,760 --> 01:40:09,760 Speaker 3: But then you just get You're like, Luke looks like 2018 01:40:09,880 --> 01:40:13,400 Speaker 3: three people stacked on top of each other, and it's 2019 01:40:13,520 --> 01:40:17,120 Speaker 3: just very off setting, given because the rest of the 2020 01:40:17,120 --> 01:40:19,120 Speaker 3: time you see his face in one of these boxes 2021 01:40:19,160 --> 01:40:22,120 Speaker 3: and it's like, oh, and so that feels to me 2022 01:40:22,520 --> 01:40:28,320 Speaker 3: that his general hatred for the South also was wonderful 2023 01:40:28,400 --> 01:40:32,240 Speaker 3: for us on our first first meeting, as I'm extremely Southern, 2024 01:40:32,400 --> 01:40:35,040 Speaker 3: so you can figure out by this point, and he's like, yeah, 2025 01:40:35,160 --> 01:40:37,720 Speaker 3: I know Georgia. I'm from Georgia. I hated Georgia, went 2026 01:40:37,760 --> 01:40:40,840 Speaker 3: to high school. It was shit. He made fun of 2027 01:40:40,880 --> 01:40:45,240 Speaker 3: me for using the word yonder once, and just his 2028 01:40:45,400 --> 01:40:48,960 Speaker 3: general general dislike of the South is also quite amusing 2029 01:40:49,000 --> 01:40:49,439 Speaker 3: at times. 2030 01:40:49,560 --> 01:40:51,400 Speaker 2: I mean, he just likes the north too, to be fair, 2031 01:40:51,439 --> 01:40:54,280 Speaker 2: he really only likes Washington, DC. He dis owned his 2032 01:40:54,280 --> 01:40:57,599 Speaker 2: home nation of India. I mean he's really just yeah, yeah, 2033 01:40:58,280 --> 01:40:58,679 Speaker 2: all right. 2034 01:40:58,880 --> 01:41:01,679 Speaker 3: I've never been India, so I can't say whether that's 2035 01:41:01,680 --> 01:41:04,280 Speaker 3: a good or a bad choice for him. DC is lovely, 2036 01:41:04,680 --> 01:41:06,040 Speaker 3: his credit it is. 2037 01:41:06,320 --> 01:41:08,920 Speaker 2: I actually I finally was able to visit it at 2038 01:41:08,960 --> 01:41:11,120 Speaker 2: length on vacation with my family last year. And yeah, 2039 01:41:11,120 --> 01:41:13,320 Speaker 2: and then we've covered a Gervonti Davis fight there earlier 2040 01:41:13,360 --> 01:41:15,800 Speaker 2: this year. It's it's one. It's wonderful. I love it. 2041 01:41:16,200 --> 01:41:20,479 Speaker 2: My my favorite Slash Hate Luke character quirk is I 2042 01:41:20,520 --> 01:41:22,920 Speaker 2: don't know if you know this about him, but on 2043 01:41:22,960 --> 01:41:27,200 Speaker 2: the road, he orders sometimes three full meals at once, 2044 01:41:28,400 --> 01:41:31,960 Speaker 2: waits an hour for it to get cold because quote, 2045 01:41:32,240 --> 01:41:34,639 Speaker 2: that's the way I like it, and then we'll pick 2046 01:41:34,760 --> 01:41:36,960 Speaker 2: at like one of the meals and then throw all 2047 01:41:37,000 --> 01:41:41,120 Speaker 2: three away all the time. He does this all the time. 2048 01:41:41,200 --> 01:41:43,400 Speaker 3: Kind of meals like is he eating cold fries? 2049 01:41:43,680 --> 01:41:45,880 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, like he'll get He'll get. 2050 01:41:45,800 --> 01:41:48,800 Speaker 3: Like an actual psychopath movie, like that's Serial Killers. 2051 01:41:49,000 --> 01:41:50,960 Speaker 2: Now, people know I love Luke, but I'm not afraid 2052 01:41:51,000 --> 01:41:53,840 Speaker 2: to call out his missteps publicly. And but uh yeah, 2053 01:41:53,880 --> 01:41:54,760 Speaker 2: that's a that's a big one. 2054 01:41:55,360 --> 01:41:58,280 Speaker 3: Like cold pizza we can, okay, cold pizzas all right, 2055 01:41:58,800 --> 01:42:03,360 Speaker 3: Cold French fries you were, you know, unacceptable. It's not 2056 01:42:03,439 --> 01:42:05,080 Speaker 3: socially acceptable behavior. 2057 01:42:04,840 --> 01:42:06,519 Speaker 2: That doesn't reheat. It's worse than fish. 2058 01:42:06,560 --> 01:42:10,760 Speaker 3: I mean, come on, you know, yeah, it's wow. That's 2059 01:42:10,760 --> 01:42:13,840 Speaker 3: where I'm I'm sad to know that now, less of Luke. 2060 01:42:14,280 --> 01:42:15,240 Speaker 3: So I had a good. 2061 01:42:15,120 --> 01:42:18,320 Speaker 2: Time in Quebec. By the way, I drove through the 2062 01:42:18,560 --> 01:42:20,840 Speaker 2: towns where my great grandparents were from. People forget jed 2063 01:42:20,880 --> 01:42:23,320 Speaker 2: that I'm fifty percent French Canadian. People forget that often 2064 01:42:23,360 --> 01:42:25,960 Speaker 2: because they think I joke about my nationality. But I 2065 01:42:26,080 --> 01:42:29,320 Speaker 2: was shocked at how much I felt like at home 2066 01:42:29,360 --> 01:42:29,839 Speaker 2: in Quebec. 2067 01:42:29,920 --> 01:42:33,360 Speaker 3: Like I felt like I was shocked that your French Canadian, even. 2068 01:42:33,160 --> 01:42:35,880 Speaker 2: With the language barrier. I felt like people liked me. 2069 01:42:35,960 --> 01:42:38,840 Speaker 2: They welcomed me. I felt like I belonged until I 2070 01:42:39,320 --> 01:42:41,559 Speaker 2: had like this mild case of food poisoning and all 2071 01:42:41,600 --> 01:42:44,320 Speaker 2: the sugar and sauces basically turned me into a black 2072 01:42:44,360 --> 01:42:46,280 Speaker 2: liver piece of crap. The first four days I was like, 2073 01:42:46,479 --> 01:42:49,800 Speaker 2: this is where I belong. Do you think I should 2074 01:42:49,920 --> 01:42:53,120 Speaker 2: challenge Ariel to like a Quebec off and almost the 2075 01:42:53,200 --> 01:42:56,360 Speaker 2: reverse racism DDP is he type thing, whereas he's like, 2076 01:42:56,439 --> 01:42:58,559 Speaker 2: do the twenty eight and me thing, who's the real 2077 01:42:58,560 --> 01:43:01,360 Speaker 2: mister Quebec? I'm willing to do. I'm not going to 2078 01:43:01,400 --> 01:43:03,599 Speaker 2: do the Schmo challenge to a basketball game thing, although 2079 01:43:03,640 --> 01:43:05,920 Speaker 2: I think I could house Ariel there, But do you 2080 01:43:05,960 --> 01:43:08,240 Speaker 2: think I could? I could be the real mister Quebec. 2081 01:43:08,800 --> 01:43:11,800 Speaker 3: Look, I'm sure, I'm sure that Quebec is not. It's 2082 01:43:11,800 --> 01:43:14,559 Speaker 3: not a monolith, right. You've You've got Montreal and the 2083 01:43:14,640 --> 01:43:17,639 Speaker 3: city folk and and the sort of you know, higher 2084 01:43:17,760 --> 01:43:21,280 Speaker 3: end people who can you know, talk to talk to 2085 01:43:21,320 --> 01:43:24,360 Speaker 3: other people and engage with them socially. And you know, 2086 01:43:24,439 --> 01:43:28,360 Speaker 3: I've watched Letter Kenny. I know about the the Canadian 2087 01:43:28,439 --> 01:43:32,400 Speaker 3: roughnecks and just dudes out there being being real low 2088 01:43:32,600 --> 01:43:36,080 Speaker 3: low bottom like you. So it's just different kinds of Quebec. 2089 01:43:36,120 --> 01:43:38,280 Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know enough to know who 2090 01:43:38,320 --> 01:43:41,479 Speaker 3: would win in a Quebec off. But until you're rocking 2091 01:43:41,640 --> 01:43:44,599 Speaker 3: like an expo hat, you're probably at least the underdog. 2092 01:43:44,720 --> 01:43:46,439 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that. 2093 01:43:46,479 --> 01:43:48,200 Speaker 2: Remember when Ariel forgot he was a Knicks fan when 2094 01:43:48,200 --> 01:43:50,200 Speaker 2: the Raptors won the championship and he was like parading 2095 01:43:50,240 --> 01:43:52,120 Speaker 2: around on there. You know, I remember Ariel. 2096 01:43:52,160 --> 01:43:53,200 Speaker 3: I remember that, though. 2097 01:43:53,200 --> 01:43:55,839 Speaker 2: But shout out to Ariel just the same. Let's close 2098 01:43:55,880 --> 01:43:58,360 Speaker 2: with this, uh, Jed. It's your debut here, so you 2099 01:43:58,400 --> 01:43:59,680 Speaker 2: got to you got to sit in and do the 2100 01:43:59,680 --> 01:44:02,320 Speaker 2: looking what I did when I got home from vacation 2101 01:44:02,439 --> 01:44:06,200 Speaker 2: last night, from visiting the beautiful Lauritian mountains. I think 2102 01:44:06,240 --> 01:44:08,599 Speaker 2: you pronounced that there outside of Montreal and q Beec, 2103 01:44:08,920 --> 01:44:12,400 Speaker 2: I scoured the globe, Jed, to find the highs and lows, 2104 01:44:12,439 --> 01:44:14,519 Speaker 2: the good, the bad, the ugly, and the in between. 2105 01:44:14,840 --> 01:44:18,720 Speaker 2: In combat sports, some people call this bc SVCs. I 2106 01:44:18,800 --> 01:44:20,800 Speaker 2: call this. Have you seen this shit? 2107 01:44:22,400 --> 01:44:23,720 Speaker 3: So this is the most exciting ping? 2108 01:44:25,240 --> 01:44:29,439 Speaker 2: Oh god, how how Jed? Let's see if you saw 2109 01:44:29,439 --> 01:44:32,000 Speaker 2: any of this shit? Number one, here's where we start 2110 01:44:32,439 --> 01:44:35,839 Speaker 2: BKFC in Albuquerque. No, I'm not gonna show you videos 2111 01:44:35,840 --> 01:44:38,280 Speaker 2: of some famous TikToker that my kids got all excited 2112 01:44:38,280 --> 01:44:40,000 Speaker 2: about getting into a fight. What's that guy's name, by. 2113 01:44:39,880 --> 01:44:44,320 Speaker 3: The way, Uh, Bryce Hall. It was trash, absolutely trash. 2114 01:44:44,360 --> 01:44:45,639 Speaker 3: I'm here to watch it. 2115 01:44:46,479 --> 01:44:50,280 Speaker 2: I'm here to celebrate this man, John Dodson, who captured 2116 01:44:50,280 --> 01:44:55,360 Speaker 2: the inaugural BKFC Featherweight Championship with the first round TKO 2117 01:44:55,640 --> 01:44:59,160 Speaker 2: of j R. Ridge Jed. From the very beginning, Dodson 2118 01:44:59,200 --> 01:45:01,880 Speaker 2: looks like he belonged in this decrepit sport. 2119 01:45:02,360 --> 01:45:05,200 Speaker 3: Dude, he found it. Like, I'm so happy for John 2120 01:45:05,240 --> 01:45:08,120 Speaker 3: Dotson because he was so much fun in MMA, Like 2121 01:45:08,640 --> 01:45:11,800 Speaker 3: he came the closest to beating DJ. Uh sort of 2122 01:45:11,840 --> 01:45:13,280 Speaker 3: at the peak of DJ's powers. 2123 01:45:13,600 --> 01:45:15,519 Speaker 2: Oh no, come on, that was a that was a 2124 01:45:16,240 --> 01:45:18,280 Speaker 2: didn't mccaulli fight him to like a split decision? 2125 01:45:19,400 --> 01:45:22,080 Speaker 3: Oh? I guess that's true, but that they went to 2126 01:45:22,560 --> 01:45:24,840 Speaker 3: they should have gone to a draw. But yeah, I 2127 01:45:24,880 --> 01:45:28,080 Speaker 3: mean Dotson dropped DJ several times, Like he's he's just 2128 01:45:28,280 --> 01:45:31,120 Speaker 3: always been an electric, really fun fighter, and this seems 2129 01:45:31,160 --> 01:45:33,519 Speaker 3: to match up super well for his skill set. That 2130 01:45:33,560 --> 01:45:35,439 Speaker 3: fight was kind of garbage. He should have won like 2131 01:45:35,520 --> 01:45:39,080 Speaker 3: way earlier than he did. The referee stopped it because 2132 01:45:39,120 --> 01:45:42,559 Speaker 3: he pushed the dude down, but he didn't really push 2133 01:45:42,640 --> 01:45:44,759 Speaker 3: him down. It sort of just happened after he punched 2134 01:45:44,840 --> 01:45:47,519 Speaker 3: him in the eye and then Homeie got like five 2135 01:45:47,560 --> 01:45:49,960 Speaker 3: minutes to recover from being punched in the eye, which 2136 01:45:50,040 --> 01:45:51,880 Speaker 3: is legal. It was a super weird thing. 2137 01:45:51,920 --> 01:45:52,400 Speaker 2: And then it. 2138 01:45:52,320 --> 01:45:55,559 Speaker 3: Didn't matter because John Dotson rules, so super happy for 2139 01:45:55,640 --> 01:45:59,000 Speaker 3: him him versus John Lenneker and bare knuckle uh would 2140 01:45:59,200 --> 01:46:02,960 Speaker 3: would be minor, like just be the best thing that's 2141 01:46:02,960 --> 01:46:06,000 Speaker 3: ever happened in combat sports. But until then, I'm happy 2142 01:46:06,040 --> 01:46:09,000 Speaker 3: to just keep watching him do this because it rules. 2143 01:46:09,200 --> 01:46:11,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, he has embraced it, and he's got quick hands 2144 01:46:11,400 --> 01:46:13,679 Speaker 2: and he gets after it. Man, it's really it's fun 2145 01:46:13,680 --> 01:46:16,040 Speaker 2: to see him, just like Mike Perry who just resigned, 2146 01:46:16,080 --> 01:46:18,040 Speaker 2: by the way, with BKFC, they set out a press 2147 01:46:18,040 --> 01:46:21,200 Speaker 2: release probably to life changing money once again. It's good 2148 01:46:21,240 --> 01:46:23,240 Speaker 2: to see people because there's a lot of people that 2149 01:46:23,320 --> 01:46:25,880 Speaker 2: use b AKFC as the last stop on the combat highway, 2150 01:46:25,880 --> 01:46:27,920 Speaker 2: and that's when it gets really sad. These are people 2151 01:46:27,960 --> 01:46:30,680 Speaker 2: who are thriving. They're thriving here. I'm down with that. 2152 01:46:30,720 --> 01:46:33,200 Speaker 2: You know the same thing with Lorenzo. What's the guy's 2153 01:46:33,200 --> 01:46:34,560 Speaker 2: There's been a few of the Lorenzo hunt is that 2154 01:46:34,560 --> 01:46:35,840 Speaker 2: I'm talking about. There's been a few of these guys 2155 01:46:35,840 --> 01:46:37,719 Speaker 2: who have bound Hector Lombards. That's some big ones. 2156 01:46:38,800 --> 01:46:41,519 Speaker 3: What we needed and what I'm The saddest thing that's 2157 01:46:41,520 --> 01:46:44,040 Speaker 3: happened in MMA this month is that Derek Lewis re 2158 01:46:44,120 --> 01:46:47,240 Speaker 3: signed with the UFC, Because Derek Lewis and BKFC was 2159 01:46:47,280 --> 01:46:50,040 Speaker 3: all I ever wanted in my life. And I know 2160 01:46:50,120 --> 01:46:52,599 Speaker 3: you would have loved that too, BC, Like, who didn't 2161 01:46:52,640 --> 01:46:54,280 Speaker 3: want to see that? And now we'll never get it 2162 01:46:54,360 --> 01:46:55,040 Speaker 3: And that's a shame. 2163 01:46:55,840 --> 01:46:59,599 Speaker 2: Speaking of Dots and talk about this celebratory, celebratory backflip 2164 01:46:59,640 --> 01:47:01,760 Speaker 2: and Dan after getting the win. It was good to 2165 01:47:01,800 --> 01:47:04,360 Speaker 2: see him so happy. Look at that athleticism right there. 2166 01:47:04,360 --> 01:47:07,680 Speaker 3: He's like a human emoji the magician. Yeah, man is 2167 01:47:08,080 --> 01:47:11,599 Speaker 3: him and andre Alowski's like deep in abiding friendship back 2168 01:47:11,600 --> 01:47:14,360 Speaker 3: in the day. Was awesome because they're just the most 2169 01:47:14,360 --> 01:47:18,240 Speaker 3: different human beings possible, both physically and emotionally. He's great, Like, 2170 01:47:18,280 --> 01:47:20,800 Speaker 3: I love John Dotson. I'm very happy for everything that 2171 01:47:20,840 --> 01:47:22,000 Speaker 3: went down this past weekend. 2172 01:47:22,160 --> 01:47:24,760 Speaker 2: I'm sure you remember when Mike Goldberg famously said, so 2173 01:47:24,920 --> 01:47:27,800 Speaker 2: you want to be an Ultimate Fighter, Jed, So you 2174 01:47:27,880 --> 01:47:31,080 Speaker 2: want to be a BKFC fighter. Here's how it usually 2175 01:47:31,120 --> 01:47:36,599 Speaker 2: looks for people. Oh no, not oh yo, straight up. 2176 01:47:37,240 --> 01:47:40,680 Speaker 2: If you told me BC, like out of context, if 2177 01:47:40,720 --> 01:47:43,439 Speaker 2: you just told me that that is the villain, like 2178 01:47:43,560 --> 01:47:46,240 Speaker 2: not the big bad villain, but like the mid tier 2179 01:47:46,360 --> 01:47:50,559 Speaker 2: villain for some like new horror franchise, I would buy it. 2180 01:47:50,600 --> 01:47:52,479 Speaker 2: Like if you blocked out the people behind in the 2181 01:47:52,479 --> 01:47:54,720 Speaker 2: box and he was like, Yeah, that's just that's the 2182 01:47:54,760 --> 01:47:57,839 Speaker 2: person who's doing a cannibalism in the woods or whatever 2183 01:47:57,960 --> 01:48:02,360 Speaker 2: on this group of side hikers. Yeah, remember the Landlord 2184 01:48:02,400 --> 01:48:04,320 Speaker 2: and Kingpin who did that gross thing. That's kind of 2185 01:48:04,360 --> 01:48:06,719 Speaker 2: giving me those vibes. But if anybody would have dated 2186 01:48:06,760 --> 01:48:07,920 Speaker 2: you with that rat tail. 2187 01:48:12,600 --> 01:48:16,280 Speaker 3: Awkward pause, awkward pod no awkward hard no hard pass. 2188 01:48:16,439 --> 01:48:19,000 Speaker 2: Now let's keep it going. UFC Vegas from the APEX 2189 01:48:19,040 --> 01:48:22,519 Speaker 2: bantam weight Demon Black Sheear made his UFC debut and 2190 01:48:22,640 --> 01:48:26,439 Speaker 2: became the third person in company history to lock up 2191 01:48:26,520 --> 01:48:29,680 Speaker 2: a twister. Sub here on Jose Johnson, your thoughts. 2192 01:48:30,760 --> 01:48:33,400 Speaker 3: Twisters are always weird because I feel like they shouldn't happen. 2193 01:48:34,000 --> 01:48:36,559 Speaker 3: This one was cool and like it. It felt natural, 2194 01:48:38,120 --> 01:48:41,479 Speaker 3: good for demand, black chear right, and dude, dude was 2195 01:48:41,520 --> 01:48:44,280 Speaker 3: fighting it the whole way and trying really hard. Uh, 2196 01:48:44,320 --> 01:48:46,960 Speaker 3: that just looks like it sucks so hard. PC. I've 2197 01:48:47,040 --> 01:48:49,519 Speaker 3: ever been put in a twister? Nah, I don't ever 2198 01:48:49,560 --> 01:48:50,599 Speaker 3: want to be put in a twister. 2199 01:48:50,800 --> 01:48:53,559 Speaker 2: I mean, I've consensually been in a few days. But 2200 01:48:53,680 --> 01:48:56,040 Speaker 2: you know that's another story right there. Hey, you know 2201 01:48:56,040 --> 01:49:00,000 Speaker 2: who's making noise on the UFC undercards lately? Debuting female 2202 01:49:00,320 --> 01:49:03,080 Speaker 2: from Brazil. We've seen some big wins. How about Luana 2203 01:49:03,200 --> 01:49:07,320 Speaker 2: Santos getting in here against Juliana Killer Miller and needing 2204 01:49:07,680 --> 01:49:11,280 Speaker 2: just a couple of minutes to absolutely I mean, I 2205 01:49:11,280 --> 01:49:13,599 Speaker 2: don't know if we have highlights of the actual punch 2206 01:49:13,720 --> 01:49:15,599 Speaker 2: is thrown or just the celebration. I don't know if 2207 01:49:15,600 --> 01:49:17,760 Speaker 2: you saw this. I'm a big Killer Miller fan. She's 2208 01:49:17,800 --> 01:49:20,559 Speaker 2: got spunk, she's got charisma, but these are two straight 2209 01:49:20,560 --> 01:49:22,439 Speaker 2: devastating defeats. This one didn't last long. 2210 01:49:23,439 --> 01:49:28,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, she is really good at getting knocked out like 2211 01:49:29,120 --> 01:49:31,640 Speaker 3: the odd because she's like long and rangy, and she 2212 01:49:31,760 --> 01:49:34,160 Speaker 3: doesn't like cover up and do the show like she's 2213 01:49:34,200 --> 01:49:36,639 Speaker 3: just gonna fire them back. And the whole time she's 2214 01:49:36,680 --> 01:49:42,280 Speaker 3: out there throwing punches fecklessly, absolutely uselessly, just trying to 2215 01:49:42,280 --> 01:49:45,840 Speaker 3: return fire and getting lit up. So it makes this 2216 01:49:45,960 --> 01:49:50,160 Speaker 3: really gorgeous finishing combo from Santo's And I feel really 2217 01:49:50,200 --> 01:49:53,200 Speaker 3: bad for Julian. She won Tough BC, she did an 2218 01:49:53,280 --> 01:49:57,000 Speaker 3: Ultimate Fighter winner, and they are having her get bass 2219 01:49:57,120 --> 01:50:00,240 Speaker 3: on the curtain, jerker of the worst card of the year, 2220 01:50:00,400 --> 01:50:02,680 Speaker 3: like man went in Tough A what it used to be. 2221 01:50:02,960 --> 01:50:05,479 Speaker 2: No, she's got She's lost three of her last four overall, 2222 01:50:05,520 --> 01:50:08,599 Speaker 2: including that loss to a comebacking Veronica Hardy last time. 2223 01:50:08,640 --> 01:50:10,559 Speaker 2: And we didn't have the I sent the wrong video in, 2224 01:50:10,640 --> 01:50:13,080 Speaker 2: but she got pieced up. To end it right there, 2225 01:50:13,640 --> 01:50:17,120 Speaker 2: somebody else got pieced up. JP bays it was bandam Waite, 2226 01:50:17,160 --> 01:50:21,639 Speaker 2: Marcus the maniac McGee face first there one one punch 2227 01:50:21,760 --> 01:50:24,200 Speaker 2: thriller here in round one. 2228 01:50:23,720 --> 01:50:27,720 Speaker 3: Yes, I love love the walk off and the gentlemanly 2229 01:50:27,760 --> 01:50:30,080 Speaker 3: walk off of this dude fell down and I don't 2230 01:50:30,120 --> 01:50:32,640 Speaker 3: even like I could. I could, I could hammer him out. 2231 01:50:32,680 --> 01:50:35,640 Speaker 3: I don't know if we're gonna have Khalil Roalntrees finished 2232 01:50:35,800 --> 01:50:36,719 Speaker 3: coming up here later. 2233 01:50:36,920 --> 01:50:37,479 Speaker 2: We won't. 2234 01:50:37,479 --> 01:50:42,400 Speaker 3: We will Khalil Rowntree did not take this very step 2235 01:50:42,479 --> 01:50:45,439 Speaker 3: back that the MGE did here, so good for him. 2236 01:50:45,560 --> 01:50:47,960 Speaker 3: JP Bay has been getting gone a lot. Yeah, it 2237 01:50:48,040 --> 01:50:49,720 Speaker 3: is the extra brain damage. 2238 01:50:49,880 --> 01:50:53,120 Speaker 2: JP Bays improves to ozh to four in the UFC. 2239 01:50:53,479 --> 01:50:56,840 Speaker 2: He's not gonna be the first real African champion, although 2240 01:50:56,880 --> 01:50:59,960 Speaker 2: he's from South Africa. But is this lost more hurtful 2241 01:51:00,560 --> 01:51:05,280 Speaker 2: than Roman Delidze and Cheyenne Bays uhlstmus. 2242 01:51:07,280 --> 01:51:09,960 Speaker 3: I mean it's pretty bad. Yeah, it's pretty bad. 2243 01:51:10,360 --> 01:51:12,200 Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean she fled the country to 2244 01:51:12,200 --> 01:51:14,080 Speaker 2: get out of their merriage. I don't know. I'm not 2245 01:51:14,080 --> 01:51:17,120 Speaker 2: speaking of other people's businesses, Okay, but it's a tough break. 2246 01:51:16,880 --> 01:51:20,000 Speaker 3: For pretty bad. Yeah, he's having a rough go of thing. 2247 01:51:20,120 --> 01:51:20,439 Speaker 2: He is. 2248 01:51:20,560 --> 01:51:22,400 Speaker 3: Hey, baby on the way though for Cheyenne, you know, 2249 01:51:24,080 --> 01:51:28,000 Speaker 3: silver lining in every I guess BC way to be positive. 2250 01:51:28,439 --> 01:51:31,560 Speaker 2: Let's go to Omaha. Hey, Terrence Crawford came for the 2251 01:51:31,640 --> 01:51:35,360 Speaker 2: victory parade. The city showed out. But the biggest highlight 2252 01:51:35,439 --> 01:51:37,960 Speaker 2: for me as as Terrence drove around with friend of 2253 01:51:38,000 --> 01:51:41,519 Speaker 2: his program Sha Kurs Stevenson, was Terrence showing up in 2254 01:51:41,600 --> 01:51:45,200 Speaker 2: the Fisherman's outfit with the giant dude he is leaning 2255 01:51:45,240 --> 01:51:48,559 Speaker 2: into this big fish thing so hilariously. I don't know 2256 01:51:48,560 --> 01:51:51,479 Speaker 2: if you saw him on like national news shows, He's 2257 01:51:51,479 --> 01:51:55,840 Speaker 2: making the rounds all over. Dude, this was awesome to see. 2258 01:51:56,040 --> 01:51:59,240 Speaker 3: I mean, what an outfit. I have not seen this shit. 2259 01:51:59,840 --> 01:52:03,240 Speaker 3: Just what a vibe. Terrence Crawford live in his best 2260 01:52:03,280 --> 01:52:06,559 Speaker 3: life right now is it's just so much fun to watch, 2261 01:52:06,680 --> 01:52:10,040 Speaker 3: Like there's not a dude who deserves it more and 2262 01:52:10,080 --> 01:52:12,680 Speaker 3: he now gets to just do this like and hell, 2263 01:52:12,800 --> 01:52:15,320 Speaker 3: if I had that physique, I would I would always 2264 01:52:15,360 --> 01:52:18,040 Speaker 3: wear an open vest. I would never be wearing clothes, 2265 01:52:18,560 --> 01:52:20,519 Speaker 3: just just the open vest. Let it all font you know, 2266 01:52:20,600 --> 01:52:21,320 Speaker 3: let everybody know. 2267 01:52:22,560 --> 01:52:24,240 Speaker 2: Dude, I love that fish net thing. I mean that 2268 01:52:24,360 --> 01:52:26,760 Speaker 2: is just you know, as I said, that probably the 2269 01:52:27,360 --> 01:52:31,360 Speaker 2: probably the greatest boxing victory involving fish nets sens oscar, 2270 01:52:31,400 --> 01:52:33,759 Speaker 2: but I don't know if you can call that a win. Indeed, 2271 01:52:34,120 --> 01:52:36,400 Speaker 2: let's keep it going here father that that was a 2272 01:52:36,520 --> 01:52:41,600 Speaker 2: real reach PC or around. In fact, actually, let's go 2273 01:52:41,680 --> 01:52:44,080 Speaker 2: over to this Everton your food of the week Jed 2274 01:52:44,240 --> 01:52:48,120 Speaker 2: Everton FCS over there in Liverpool is now selling the 2275 01:52:48,240 --> 01:52:51,880 Speaker 2: Rocko Safreddi Dog. Your thoughts, Yeah, look at that, Look 2276 01:52:51,920 --> 01:52:53,559 Speaker 2: at a unit on that guy. Wow. 2277 01:52:53,960 --> 01:52:56,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's so much better than I thought it was 2278 01:52:56,720 --> 01:52:59,320 Speaker 3: to me because all of the like food things are 2279 01:52:59,360 --> 01:53:04,519 Speaker 3: always tear like you expected me. Yeah, that is a 2280 01:53:04,520 --> 01:53:06,679 Speaker 3: lot of meat to bun ratio right there. 2281 01:53:06,920 --> 01:53:09,439 Speaker 2: That is that is that is interesting right there? 2282 01:53:09,640 --> 01:53:12,240 Speaker 3: How do you eat that in a group of your 2283 01:53:12,320 --> 01:53:14,240 Speaker 3: male friends without getting made fun of? 2284 01:53:15,600 --> 01:53:16,000 Speaker 2: You don't. 2285 01:53:16,600 --> 01:53:18,240 Speaker 3: I don't think you can, do you know? 2286 01:53:18,320 --> 01:53:20,439 Speaker 2: I hold I still hold the Yankee Stadium record for 2287 01:53:20,479 --> 01:53:23,960 Speaker 2: having consumed eight consecutive hot dogs at the standoutside before 2288 01:53:24,120 --> 01:53:26,680 Speaker 2: entering a two thousand and one Royals Yankees game, in 2289 01:53:26,680 --> 01:53:28,599 Speaker 2: which I sat in the extreme upper deck and grossed 2290 01:53:28,600 --> 01:53:30,719 Speaker 2: out the four women that were part of my party. 2291 01:53:30,920 --> 01:53:32,400 Speaker 2: That record will not be broken. 2292 01:53:33,560 --> 01:53:35,839 Speaker 3: Eight dogs is so many times. 2293 01:53:35,720 --> 01:53:39,200 Speaker 2: While waiting in line, I emptied my pockets of cash 2294 01:53:39,200 --> 01:53:42,040 Speaker 2: and consumed eight consecutive And there's people that still talk 2295 01:53:42,080 --> 01:53:42,439 Speaker 2: about that. 2296 01:53:42,560 --> 01:53:46,479 Speaker 3: Okay, it's incredible about that. I have recently there's like 2297 01:53:46,520 --> 01:53:49,519 Speaker 3: a TikTok thing that goes around like the would you 2298 01:53:49,640 --> 01:53:52,120 Speaker 3: rathers or whatever? And I've recently had a debate with 2299 01:53:52,160 --> 01:53:56,439 Speaker 3: my friends about would you rather, uh like, live your 2300 01:53:56,479 --> 01:53:59,559 Speaker 3: life normally or get a million dollars a year? But 2301 01:53:59,560 --> 01:54:02,680 Speaker 3: you have to six hot dogs every day and apparently 2302 01:54:02,760 --> 01:54:04,360 Speaker 3: that's just a Tuesday for you. 2303 01:54:04,479 --> 01:54:06,679 Speaker 2: Beat It used to be. It used to be until 2304 01:54:06,680 --> 01:54:09,280 Speaker 2: I found the black Liver. Hey, let's go to Target 2305 01:54:09,280 --> 01:54:12,200 Speaker 2: Center in Minneapolis. There was a Zach Bryant concert. Guess 2306 01:54:12,200 --> 01:54:15,120 Speaker 2: who showed up to sing it's brock Livesner. 2307 01:54:15,880 --> 01:54:30,919 Speaker 3: Oh my god, Sable. I don't know how process represent Coors, 2308 01:54:30,960 --> 01:54:35,120 Speaker 3: not not bought life represent Coors Coors. And then because 2309 01:54:35,320 --> 01:54:37,280 Speaker 3: you think after this is going to go home and get. 2310 01:54:37,160 --> 01:54:44,200 Speaker 2: On the rige, look at you're talking about Sable? Yeah, 2311 01:54:44,280 --> 01:54:46,280 Speaker 2: look at. I mean to Jude, I love everything brock 2312 01:54:46,320 --> 01:54:48,720 Speaker 2: Listener does, like he can even what he did to Mark, 2313 01:54:48,960 --> 01:54:50,960 Speaker 2: like he can't do wrong. In my eyes, he's he is. 2314 01:54:51,240 --> 01:54:53,040 Speaker 2: He's my favorite. He's my favorite person. 2315 01:54:53,480 --> 01:54:56,600 Speaker 3: Not I don't have that sort of connection to him, 2316 01:54:56,600 --> 01:54:59,920 Speaker 3: but he makes me laugh because if the Brock last 2317 01:55:00,160 --> 01:55:02,880 Speaker 3: got off the couch tomorrow, he's still beating the hell 2318 01:55:02,920 --> 01:55:05,760 Speaker 3: out of like half of the top fifteen heavyweights and 2319 01:55:05,760 --> 01:55:07,440 Speaker 3: the probably man. 2320 01:55:07,520 --> 01:55:09,600 Speaker 2: Dude, do you think he would win the award for 2321 01:55:10,040 --> 01:55:12,360 Speaker 2: most juiced UFC fight ever? 2322 01:55:12,480 --> 01:55:12,560 Speaker 3: Like? 2323 01:55:12,560 --> 01:55:15,040 Speaker 2: Does he did? He have the most juice in him 2324 01:55:15,200 --> 01:55:17,960 Speaker 2: of any fighter ever for a fight at UFC two. 2325 01:55:19,000 --> 01:55:21,920 Speaker 3: No, because he is also just an athletic freak. So 2326 01:55:22,680 --> 01:55:25,840 Speaker 3: his juicing was I feel largely supplemental, like he just, 2327 01:55:25,920 --> 01:55:28,000 Speaker 3: you know, wanted to get a little bit of extra. Dude, 2328 01:55:28,040 --> 01:55:32,000 Speaker 3: go back, what was Mark Kerr and Mark Coleman. We 2329 01:55:32,120 --> 01:55:34,920 Speaker 3: were going through their vans at the peak of the 2330 01:55:35,000 --> 01:55:40,760 Speaker 3: like early Pete, keV rest in Peace, Kevin Randallman like, dude, 2331 01:55:40,840 --> 01:55:44,120 Speaker 3: there's no chance he is. He pissed the hottest of 2332 01:55:44,240 --> 01:55:48,160 Speaker 3: hots because if you could go back in time so much. 2333 01:55:49,080 --> 01:55:51,360 Speaker 2: Indeed, Hey, football jersey of the week time, let's go 2334 01:55:51,400 --> 01:55:54,080 Speaker 2: out to the field here, Jed, do you have this 2335 01:55:54,120 --> 01:55:54,920 Speaker 2: one in your closet? 2336 01:55:56,000 --> 01:56:06,760 Speaker 3: Go Hokies, bro, what incredible Virginia. That's honestly a great jersey. Yeah, 2337 01:56:06,800 --> 01:56:10,600 Speaker 3: props to that, dude. I would not wear that in 2338 01:56:10,680 --> 01:56:11,520 Speaker 3: public person. 2339 01:56:11,680 --> 01:56:14,440 Speaker 2: Would you rather wear that in public? Or the side 2340 01:56:14,440 --> 01:56:15,480 Speaker 2: of Frank Beamer's face? 2341 01:56:17,680 --> 01:56:20,440 Speaker 3: I can't give me the jersey, Give me the jersey. 2342 01:56:20,920 --> 01:56:22,520 Speaker 2: Let's keep it going here, I gotta get it out 2343 01:56:22,560 --> 01:56:25,320 Speaker 2: of here. Friend of the program, Giovanni Marquez, the son 2344 01:56:25,360 --> 01:56:29,200 Speaker 2: of Showtimes Raoul Marcuz just twenty two improved a six 2345 01:56:29,280 --> 01:56:32,720 Speaker 2: and oh with this ko on Saturday at overtime boxing 2346 01:56:32,800 --> 01:56:35,480 Speaker 2: in Atlanta. Check out this finish. 2347 01:56:35,480 --> 01:56:36,280 Speaker 3: I could have gone to this. 2348 01:56:36,920 --> 01:56:38,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, you should have been there, dude. 2349 01:56:38,600 --> 01:56:42,080 Speaker 3: I didn't know this was happening. Where's the finish. I'm 2350 01:56:42,120 --> 01:56:42,840 Speaker 3: waiting on the fat. 2351 01:56:42,880 --> 01:56:44,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, they stopped it on the feet there, but Geo 2352 01:56:44,760 --> 01:56:47,640 Speaker 2: came in ripped. There's Raoul get in the ring. There's 2353 01:56:47,640 --> 01:56:50,160 Speaker 2: Proud Papa right there. Six and oh the twenty two 2354 01:56:50,280 --> 01:56:52,960 Speaker 2: year old goo. Let's continue to match him up the ranks. 2355 01:56:52,960 --> 01:56:54,720 Speaker 2: And there's the victory dancing down with that answer. 2356 01:56:55,480 --> 01:56:58,080 Speaker 3: I mean, I couldn't do it. That looks like something 2357 01:56:58,160 --> 01:57:01,480 Speaker 3: for the children. I'm past. That would blow out a 2358 01:57:01,520 --> 01:57:02,640 Speaker 3: knee trying to do that. 2359 01:57:02,680 --> 01:57:05,200 Speaker 2: At this point, I'd blowed everything if I was this guy. 2360 01:57:05,240 --> 01:57:06,840 Speaker 2: Let's go to the dirt bike trail. This is why 2361 01:57:06,880 --> 01:57:09,280 Speaker 2: I don't roller skate. This is why I don't ski. 2362 01:57:10,120 --> 01:57:17,600 Speaker 2: This right here? Oh boy, oh oh fade in the face. 2363 01:57:18,480 --> 01:57:20,000 Speaker 2: What a And it's a double. 2364 01:57:19,720 --> 01:57:24,520 Speaker 3: Whammy because the first hit and then it just yeah, yeah, 2365 01:57:25,080 --> 01:57:27,760 Speaker 3: all of the all of the dirt biking ones are 2366 01:57:27,800 --> 01:57:31,920 Speaker 3: always awful. No dirt biking accident has ever been kind 2367 01:57:32,040 --> 01:57:33,120 Speaker 3: to the person who happened. 2368 01:57:33,560 --> 01:57:35,440 Speaker 2: Graffiti of the week time, Let's go out to the 2369 01:57:35,440 --> 01:57:40,840 Speaker 2: elevator shaft and Jed, speaking of shaft, you know. 2370 01:57:45,800 --> 01:57:49,160 Speaker 3: That's so dumb, and said, all right, keep it going. 2371 01:57:49,240 --> 01:57:52,040 Speaker 2: Your regional m m A k O of the week, Jed. 2372 01:57:52,040 --> 01:57:53,720 Speaker 2: I don't know if you know about regional MMA, but 2373 01:57:53,840 --> 01:57:55,720 Speaker 2: anything can happen. Let's go to your. 2374 01:57:55,640 --> 01:58:03,360 Speaker 3: Stoppage of the week. Holy took his soul. 2375 01:58:03,960 --> 01:58:05,520 Speaker 2: Took his soul right there. 2376 01:58:05,800 --> 01:58:09,240 Speaker 3: Damn Yeah, that's one of the most esthetically pleasing knockouts 2377 01:58:09,280 --> 01:58:12,560 Speaker 3: I've actually ever seen in combat sports. That is incredible. 2378 01:58:12,920 --> 01:58:14,600 Speaker 3: Who is that? Do we know who did that? 2379 01:58:14,840 --> 01:58:16,680 Speaker 2: We don't know. They threw a pillow in the cage. 2380 01:58:16,680 --> 01:58:19,400 Speaker 2: I'm being told by Gaff. Yeah he needs it, that 2381 01:58:21,680 --> 01:58:23,520 Speaker 2: no doubt. Jed. I don't know if you know this, 2382 01:58:23,640 --> 01:58:26,840 Speaker 2: but we got a power Slap mobile video game. Let's 2383 01:58:26,920 --> 01:58:30,040 Speaker 2: check the video tape on this. You can iOS this 2384 01:58:30,120 --> 01:58:34,760 Speaker 2: bullshit anytime you want. Oh wow, that's great. 2385 01:58:34,800 --> 01:58:38,600 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna play it because why would I what possible? 2386 01:58:38,680 --> 01:58:40,600 Speaker 3: Game mechanics can be fun here? 2387 01:58:40,880 --> 01:58:45,080 Speaker 2: Like, I don't carnage may be senseless violence without defense, 2388 01:58:45,160 --> 01:58:46,000 Speaker 2: but I don't know if. 2389 01:58:45,920 --> 01:58:48,400 Speaker 3: You know the thing, I at least would get watching, 2390 01:58:48,480 --> 01:58:51,280 Speaker 3: Like if you just are into senseless carnage. Okay, watch 2391 01:58:51,640 --> 01:58:54,440 Speaker 3: watch Power Slap like more power to you. Why would 2392 01:58:54,480 --> 01:58:56,680 Speaker 3: I want to play a mobile game where I'm just 2393 01:58:56,720 --> 01:58:59,200 Speaker 3: gonna tap this button, this one button, because it's not 2394 01:58:59,240 --> 01:59:03,200 Speaker 3: like there's a combination of buttons. Did I don't get it? Yeah? 2395 01:59:03,320 --> 01:59:06,360 Speaker 2: Indeed. Well, Dana, who often tells us how big Power 2396 01:59:06,360 --> 01:59:08,560 Speaker 2: Slap is in India, would like you to know that 2397 01:59:08,640 --> 01:59:10,760 Speaker 2: this is the biggest video game in the world. Let's listen. 2398 01:59:10,760 --> 01:59:15,720 Speaker 4: In we launched our video game mobile app, video game. 2399 01:59:15,880 --> 01:59:18,560 Speaker 4: We're number one in all of sports. We're number four 2400 01:59:18,600 --> 01:59:23,200 Speaker 4: in all of video games. So when you look at 2401 01:59:23,320 --> 01:59:26,000 Speaker 4: the power that that game is going to have too 2402 01:59:26,200 --> 01:59:29,440 Speaker 4: on the athletes and recruiting and getting new people to 2403 01:59:29,480 --> 01:59:32,440 Speaker 4: come in the video games too. We're number one in 2404 01:59:32,480 --> 01:59:35,480 Speaker 4: all of sports. We launched it today. We're number four 2405 01:59:35,520 --> 01:59:38,800 Speaker 4: in all of video games. We're beating like FIFA and 2406 01:59:39,880 --> 01:59:41,320 Speaker 4: Call of Duty in games like that. 2407 01:59:42,720 --> 01:59:46,960 Speaker 2: So they say, don't believe everything Dana says, bloody elbows. 2408 01:59:47,560 --> 01:59:51,360 Speaker 2: Anton Lebuyna did the research shortly after Dana said this, 2409 01:59:51,480 --> 01:59:54,240 Speaker 2: and it turns out quick fact check Slap did not 2410 01:59:54,360 --> 01:59:56,600 Speaker 2: beat Call of Duty, which was top five on all 2411 01:59:56,640 --> 01:59:59,800 Speaker 2: free games. It's not even in the top two h 2412 02:00:00,480 --> 02:00:03,720 Speaker 2: and in sports. It didn't beat FIFA, which was number nine, 2413 02:00:03,800 --> 02:00:06,520 Speaker 2: and it's not number one. SLAP at the time of 2414 02:00:06,560 --> 02:00:10,720 Speaker 2: this on August tenth was currently number one hundred and eleven, 2415 02:00:10,840 --> 02:00:15,040 Speaker 2: shortly after Dana made those comments. So you know, Jed Powerslap, 2416 02:00:15,240 --> 02:00:20,000 Speaker 2: social media is bigger than every sport combined. But you 2417 02:00:20,080 --> 02:00:24,000 Speaker 2: can't believe everything Dana tells you. And finally to close, 2418 02:00:25,440 --> 02:00:27,840 Speaker 2: maybe I'm wrong and I love this guy, but Jed 2419 02:00:28,400 --> 02:00:30,760 Speaker 2: is Mike Perry taking this two percent black thing too far? 2420 02:00:36,120 --> 02:00:38,880 Speaker 2: Guy looks like see Thomas Howell and soul Man right now. 2421 02:00:38,920 --> 02:00:42,400 Speaker 2: But luckily, what we're celebrating here is the greatest romance 2422 02:00:42,400 --> 02:00:44,720 Speaker 2: of all time, him and Joel Romero coming out of 2423 02:00:44,760 --> 02:00:46,800 Speaker 2: the Dead Sea. So we'll mess it. 2424 02:00:47,640 --> 02:00:49,960 Speaker 3: I mean, that's really cool. I would love to go 2425 02:00:50,040 --> 02:00:52,840 Speaker 3: to the Dead Seat and I've just loved to hang 2426 02:00:52,840 --> 02:00:55,360 Speaker 3: out with Yolo Romero. That would just be electric. 2427 02:00:55,600 --> 02:00:57,200 Speaker 2: Be a fly on the wall with these two brown 2428 02:00:57,280 --> 02:00:59,040 Speaker 2: out with Despite the language bearer. 2429 02:00:58,880 --> 02:01:01,960 Speaker 3: Can you imagine the common conversations is so good Yoel 2430 02:01:02,120 --> 02:01:05,680 Speaker 3: and his semi broken English and Mike Perry in his 2431 02:01:05,800 --> 02:01:11,040 Speaker 3: semi brokening. I just can't even imagine what these two 2432 02:01:11,080 --> 02:01:13,160 Speaker 3: dudes are talking about. It would be the best. I 2433 02:01:13,200 --> 02:01:15,720 Speaker 3: would love that more than almost anything else. 2434 02:01:16,160 --> 02:01:18,920 Speaker 2: That's the ship of the week. I got a bounce, 2435 02:01:19,280 --> 02:01:21,680 Speaker 2: So why don't I tell you this? Thank you, Jed 2436 02:01:21,720 --> 02:01:25,200 Speaker 2: Mischeu the second for jumping in today in this MK slot. 2437 02:01:25,240 --> 02:01:27,360 Speaker 2: Luke Thomas on vacation. Throughout the rest of the week, 2438 02:01:27,480 --> 02:01:29,640 Speaker 2: We'll have plenty of special guests. But Jed, it was 2439 02:01:29,680 --> 02:01:31,840 Speaker 2: a It was a tremendously fun debut here. 2440 02:01:32,520 --> 02:01:34,760 Speaker 3: I had a great time. Thanks for having me, guys, 2441 02:01:34,880 --> 02:01:38,320 Speaker 3: and let me know whenever the Fighters Only Awards are going, 2442 02:01:38,360 --> 02:01:40,240 Speaker 3: if I'll sit at the table with y'all, we can 2443 02:01:40,280 --> 02:01:42,760 Speaker 3: all you know, MK family go up together and win. 2444 02:01:43,320 --> 02:01:46,520 Speaker 3: Is it back to back to back best best MMA programming? 2445 02:01:46,600 --> 02:01:48,160 Speaker 3: This would be the four. 2446 02:01:48,320 --> 02:01:50,000 Speaker 2: This would be the third. If we win. Our fans 2447 02:01:50,040 --> 02:01:51,560 Speaker 2: have to get out there and vote if they want to. 2448 02:01:52,160 --> 02:01:54,480 Speaker 2: But I'll shout out below the links when I'm up there, 2449 02:01:54,520 --> 02:01:56,400 Speaker 2: because that shows great even if I don't know the name. 2450 02:01:56,640 --> 02:02:01,080 Speaker 3: Okay, dude, one of these years, one of these years. 2451 02:02:00,440 --> 02:02:03,160 Speaker 2: Huge Mike hex SnO between the links, they're correcting me 2452 02:02:03,200 --> 02:02:05,840 Speaker 2: there in the life long thank you Between the Links 2453 02:02:05,920 --> 02:02:08,960 Speaker 2: starring Mike heck and the incomparable voice of Ester Lynn 2454 02:02:09,000 --> 02:02:11,680 Speaker 2: and e Casey Lighten on the production there. Jed Michute, 2455 02:02:11,680 --> 02:02:13,920 Speaker 2: thank you. Thank you to the listeners for tuning in. 2456 02:02:14,440 --> 02:02:17,400 Speaker 2: Uh be back this week to set the stage for Boston. 2457 02:02:17,440 --> 02:02:20,040 Speaker 2: Of course UFC pay per view this weekend and so 2458 02:02:20,240 --> 02:02:23,200 Speaker 2: much more. Jed, we already showed your social handles below. 2459 02:02:23,360 --> 02:02:26,800 Speaker 2: Anything you want to plug on the way out, And 2460 02:02:26,920 --> 02:02:27,960 Speaker 2: just to remind you, I'm married. 2461 02:02:28,920 --> 02:02:31,440 Speaker 3: Oh well, I would have loved to plug you, but 2462 02:02:31,920 --> 02:02:34,840 Speaker 3: I guess that's out of the okyayfind it dot com. 2463 02:02:34,840 --> 02:02:36,720 Speaker 3: It's a great website. Make sure you check it out. 2464 02:02:36,920 --> 02:02:39,760 Speaker 3: Most of my stuff's there. That's all I need. All right, 2465 02:02:40,240 --> 02:02:43,000 Speaker 3: I'll come back anytime. Be happy to fill in for 2466 02:02:43,080 --> 02:02:46,480 Speaker 3: Luke when he's off. Who takes vacations anymore? 2467 02:02:47,240 --> 02:02:49,320 Speaker 2: Apparently we do every month and the fans are really 2468 02:02:49,360 --> 02:02:51,000 Speaker 2: upset at us. But you know what I mean for 2469 02:02:51,040 --> 02:02:53,680 Speaker 2: me to I got gotta keep the family happy, happy wife, 2470 02:02:53,800 --> 02:02:56,560 Speaker 2: happy life. Jed. Okay, one day, one day? Right, all right? 2471 02:02:57,080 --> 02:02:57,360 Speaker 2: Thank you. 2472 02:02:57,760 --> 02:02:59,320 Speaker 3: I had a late start to the game with the 2473 02:02:59,400 --> 02:03:01,920 Speaker 3: rat tails. Yeah, a couple more years and we'll get there. 2474 02:03:02,320 --> 02:03:04,760 Speaker 2: Indeed, Showtime always the label that pays us you can 2475 02:03:04,760 --> 02:03:07,360 Speaker 2: get your merchant at Morningcombat Dot Store. All that and 2476 02:03:07,400 --> 02:03:09,640 Speaker 2: then some tall, pale and handsome it's your boy BC 2477 02:03:09,840 --> 02:03:12,640 Speaker 2: for Jed Meshu and the great staff Long Island, Luke 2478 02:03:12,680 --> 02:03:16,440 Speaker 2: and Gaffey Pierre, thank you for watching mk out. Tip 2479 02:03:16,480 --> 02:03:19,480 Speaker 2: your waitresses, and remember what Luke always says about those holes. 2480 02:03:19,840 --> 02:03:21,040 Speaker 2: They never loyal, bro,