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Speaker 1: It's the NFL Report Week four edition.

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Speaker 2: I've Seve White you is my guy, James Palmer, And

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Speaker 2: after that game Sunday night, JP, I think I am

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Speaker 2: more swift Fer than swift Tea. Not really sold on

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Speaker 2: all of the shots of Taylor Swift, but what a

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Speaker 2: great game we did see Sunday night between the Jets

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Speaker 2: and the Chiefs. Kansas City eked out for the dub.

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Speaker 3: Big time. Steve. It's so interesting.

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Speaker 4: We're just seeing shot after shot of Taylor Swift walking

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Speaker 4: through a security line at MetLife and everything. Every Twitter

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Speaker 4: account Taylor Swift's at the game and standing right behind

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Speaker 4: her is like Blake Lively, you Jackman, Brian Reynolds.

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Speaker 3: No mention of.

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Speaker 4: These megastars by any stretch of the imagination. As they

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Speaker 4: walk in to MetLife, it is just Taylor Swift or

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Speaker 4: bus because she is directly connected to those Kansas City Chiefs.

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Speaker 4: And we'll get into it a little bit later with

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Speaker 4: Jeff Chidia as we break down this Chiefs team where

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Speaker 4: we've told up before with him about how good this

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Speaker 4: defense has been, maybe one of the best we've seen

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Speaker 4: in Mahomes's time in Kansas City. But we're also seeing

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Speaker 4: them work through some of these growing pains with all

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Speaker 4: these young pieces around Patrick Mahomes during training camp, I

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Speaker 4: kept hearing Steve it was like Skymore is going to

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Speaker 4: take a jump, and mvs' is year two of the

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Speaker 4: system is going to take a jump and all of

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Speaker 4: these It just hasn't happened or clicked entirely as an

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Speaker 4: offensive unit, Yester yet. And you also have two new

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Speaker 4: tackles as part of this as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's clearly one of those tackles has been an

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Speaker 2: issue as we saw some more penalties get called on

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Speaker 2: him last night on the right side. But James, again,

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Speaker 2: I think defenses are playing the Chiefs differently. This was

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Speaker 2: like a couple like last year when they had to

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Speaker 2: adjust to a couple things. How defenses are playing them differently.

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Speaker 2: And here's something I thought about last night with the way,

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Speaker 2: I mean, the Jets just really gave them a lot

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Speaker 2: of trouble on both sides of the balls. We saw

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Speaker 2: Zach wilsoner quarterback play well. For as much as we

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Speaker 2: want to malign Nate Hackett, the Jets offensive coordinated for

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Speaker 2: the job he did his head coach with the Broncos.

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Speaker 2: He did have the game plan against the Chiefs twice

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Speaker 2: last season, so he may have had something in his

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Speaker 2: pocket and understanding the Chiefs personnel, some of their principles

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Speaker 2: and what they like to do when he went into

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Speaker 2: game plan. Maybe that's why Zach Wilson played fairly well.

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Speaker 2: I thought he played really well. I mean, maybe Aaron

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Speaker 2: Rodgers being there made HI feel a little bit better.

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Speaker 2: I mean, who knows, but I thought he played really well.

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Speaker 2: But the fact that Kansas City James seems to have

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Speaker 2: an answer for everything, like Isaiah Pacheco, you know, and

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Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes running when he has to, They're just so

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Speaker 2: tough to beat when their defense, as you mentioned, is.

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Speaker 1: Playing this well.

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Speaker 4: Certain teams know how to win, Steve, we're gonna get

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Speaker 4: into that when we talk about Philadelphia, talk about the Niners,

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Speaker 4: some other teams in the NFC. We're gonna break those down.

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Speaker 4: Sherry Burriss was at that Eagles commander's game. We're gonna

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Speaker 4: talk to her. She'll be on the show. Cameron Wolfe's

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Speaker 4: gonna talk about that big showdown that happened at Orchard

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Speaker 4: Park between the Bills and the Dolphins. But let's start

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Speaker 4: off with America's team.

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Speaker 3: I hate to use that term.

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Speaker 4: But I just did the Dallas Cowboys, Steve, they get

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Speaker 4: a bounce back when over Bill Belichick and the New

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Speaker 4: England Patriots, the worst defeat of Bill Belichick's tenure with

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Speaker 4: the New England Patriots losing thirty eight to three. Your

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Speaker 4: initial thoughts on this one, because what we have seen

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Speaker 4: one of the identities of the Cowboys are when they

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Speaker 4: have a bad loss, and they've had a couple of

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Speaker 4: them under Mike McCarthy, they do bounce back and play

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Speaker 4: really well and put a lot of points on the

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Speaker 4: board in the next week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we saw Week three, they had the tough loss

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Speaker 2: against Arizona. No one really saw that coming. But here's

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Speaker 2: the ultimate tale of what Dallas thought about what they

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Speaker 2: did to the Patriots. I reached out to somebody with

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Speaker 2: the Cowboys Monday morning. I was like, man, that was

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Speaker 2: just a virtuoso defensive performance. The text I got back,

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Speaker 2: big game coming up this week.

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Speaker 1: They're already onto the forty nine ers.

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Speaker 2: Their attitude was almost like that shell lacking of the

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Speaker 2: Patriots was almost a throwaway game, like, Okay, we came

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Speaker 2: out there, we buzzed through them. Now let's move on

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Speaker 2: to the forty nine er. We're gona talk about that

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Speaker 2: little later on, but just think about this. They made

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Speaker 2: Mac Jones look absolutely terrible, and I know all the

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Speaker 2: New England is like, get rid of Mac Jones, get

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Speaker 2: rid of this guy. The Cowboys are going to do

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Speaker 2: that to teams. Their defense is that good. They're gonna

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Speaker 2: want to make you fire your head coach because they

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Speaker 2: are going to stifle your offense. But jp they got

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Speaker 2: two more defensive touchdowns. They have four defensive touchdowns on

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Speaker 2: the year, another in the return game five non offensive touchdowns.

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Speaker 2: This reminds you of two years ago when their defense

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Speaker 2: had eight defensive touchdowns and they had a couple of

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Speaker 2: touchdowns in the return game. If they continue to play

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Speaker 2: this well on that side of the ball, Oh, that

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Speaker 2: game against the forty nine ers, which they are so

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Speaker 2: focused in on, is going to be something special.

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Speaker 3: They are beyond focused in it.

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Speaker 4: They didn't just start really, I would think honestly after

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Speaker 4: halftime Steve for that game on Sunday against the Patriots.

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Speaker 4: I got a text from one of the coaches this

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Speaker 4: morning that said in Dallas, that said, we've had this

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Speaker 4: game circled since.

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Speaker 3: The end of last season. I mean, that's the way

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Speaker 4: Remember the forty nine Ers ended their season last year

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Speaker 4: and the year before, and this has happened.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if people at home know this.

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Speaker 4: But if you're in a game, you're like on the

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Speaker 4: Dallas Cowboys sideline, and you're going through a blowout of

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Speaker 4: and you have an opponent coming up the next week

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Speaker 4: like they have circled with the San Francisco forty nine Ers,

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Speaker 4: the mindset steve switches in game for some.

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Speaker 3: Playoffs, doesn't it.

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Speaker 4: Guys like Micah Parsons already turned the key before they

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Speaker 3: As we're on to the forty nine ers.

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Speaker 4: The entire postgame press conference or anybody speaking in the

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Speaker 4: the New England Patriots. That's where this team's mindset is

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Speaker 4: right now. That's wild. Michael Parson is calling it a

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Speaker 4: playoff game. Jerry Jones saying postgame that if we go

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Speaker 4: for a Super Bowl this year. That's how big these

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Speaker 4: guys are talking this game, is what I am concerned

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Speaker 4: about before we move on. That zone still is a problem, yep.

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Speaker 4: For the Dallas Cowboys. Four trips in there, one touchdown

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Speaker 3: It's not like the forty.

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Speaker 4: Nine Ers are incredible so far the season in the

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Speaker 4: you have to be able to convert in the red zone.

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Speaker 2: You have to be able to score touchdowns. And just

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Speaker 2: real quick as you move on, JP, with the Cowboys

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Speaker 2: treating the Patriots like an afterthought, we are going to

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Speaker 3: All right, j P.

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Speaker 1: Let's move on.

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Speaker 2: Because we saw the Pittsburgh Steelers go down to Houston

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Speaker 2: and get slapped around. I mean, no one saw that

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Speaker 2: coming the way it happened, especially my head coach Mike Tomlin.

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Speaker 2: Here's what Tomlin had to say postgame about what's coming next.

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Speaker 5: Hell yeah, we got to make some changes.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 5: That was an ugly product we put out there today,

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Speaker 5: and so we're not going to do the same things

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Speaker 5: and hope for a different outcome. What those changes are. Man,

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Speaker 5: we'll put together a plan in preparation this week.

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Speaker 2: Hmm, JP, when is the last time you've ever heard

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Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin make a public declaration like that about we

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Speaker 2: are going to be making changes. Look, we know JP,

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Speaker 2: the quarterback is going to change. Can He Pickett sustained

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Speaker 2: to knee injury. He's probably going to be out for

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Speaker 2: a little while. Based on some of the reports we've

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Speaker 2: heard from our insiders, he and Rappaport and Tom Pelasero,

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Speaker 2: this doesn't sound like it is an injury induced type

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Speaker 2: of change that Mike Tomlin is talking about.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's only done this a very few times in

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Speaker 4: his career, Steve, and he has been extremely successful during

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Speaker 4: his entire tenure in San Francis. How many losing I

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Speaker 4: mean his tenure with Pittsburgh, how many losing seasons has

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Speaker 4: he had? That'd be zero for again, that'd be zero

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Speaker 4: that he's had. Now, they remember last year they made

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Speaker 4: some changes Minci's nobody really knew what they were after

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Speaker 4: their bye week, and that kind of helped them catapult

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Speaker 4: themselves into the postseason. The second half of the year,

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Speaker 4: they said they made some subtle tweaks, subtle changes. It

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Speaker 4: wasn't a declaration like we saw from Mike Tomlin right there,

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Speaker 4: and everybody's calling for Matt Canada's head the offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 4: You would think if something was to change, that would

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Speaker 4: have happened this offseason, right and that would have been

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Speaker 4: another offensive coordinator for your young quarterback and Kenny Pickett.

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Speaker 4: That would have also went against what we've seen in

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Speaker 4: the history of the Pittsburgh Steelers and the way they operate.

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Speaker 4: You don't usually change coordinators, Let's be honest, within a season.

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Speaker 4: I'm curious what they want to change. The two things

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Speaker 4: that hasn't been able to stop the run. Against the

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Speaker 4: Houston Texans, I believe they ran the football.

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Speaker 3: Let's look at this.

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Speaker 4: Thirty eight times or one hundred and thirty nine yards.

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Speaker 4: That team had struggled to run the football through their

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Speaker 4: first three weeks, and their inability to stick with the

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Speaker 4: what happens, they get away from it again, and even

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Speaker 4: guys in the locker room were saying, we're not staying

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Speaker 4: consistent with the run game with Kenny Pickett and operating

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Speaker 4: in the play action. I feel like, Steve, you have

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Speaker 4: to stick with the run game if you are the

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Speaker 4: Pittsburgh Steelers and have a consistency in rhythm with your

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Speaker 4: run game, if you want this offense to click. To me,

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Speaker 4: that is essentially coaching on calling these plays in those instances.

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Speaker 4: What's your take on what you think could possibly change.

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Speaker 2: It might not be the play caller, but it may

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Speaker 2: be a directive to the play caller to run the

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Speaker 2: damn ball. Stop putting pressure on our quarterback, who we

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Speaker 2: really don't know what he's made of, whether it's Mitch

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Speaker 2: comes back, and run the football. Stick with it, like

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Speaker 2: you said, when it is working. This has been the

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Speaker 2: Steelers brand for decades. The ruinies will tell you, cold Weather,

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Speaker 2: run the football, stop the run. That's why we're always there.

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Speaker 2: Mike tom Lowhen he came out and said we're not

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Speaker 2: hoping that they work.

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Speaker 1: That means we're gonna change. He's hot.

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Speaker 2: Like we said, he does not make public declarations like

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Speaker 2: this ever unless something is very serious. In JPU and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, think about that. I mean, they beat all those

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Speaker 2: We still don't know the full functionality of this offense,

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Speaker 3: Bills showed us they are still contenders.

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Speaker 1: Cook in the backfield, Allen back to pass, Gonna roll.

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Speaker 7: To his right, steps up cross the Diggs for a touchdown.

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Speaker 1: Eleven yard touchdown reception.

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Speaker 2: Took the loan stepback play action passed as time pros

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Speaker 1: From the tacklers that he does thirty five.

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Speaker 2: Thirty twenty five, twenty headed to the end zone.

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Speaker 1: Touchdown step five Diggs.

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Speaker 1: Holy moly, digs by himself on the left side.

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Speaker 2: Here's the snap, takes the handoff to Murray to the inside.

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Speaker 2: It's a try Christophon Diggs thirteen yard touchdown reception.

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Speaker 1: Can you dig it?

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Speaker 3: Can you Stefan digs it?

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Speaker 4: We are now welcome on the NFL Report by Cameron

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Speaker 4: Wolf Cam Steve I. We were talking before we had

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Speaker 4: cam on off camera. You called it, Cam, you called it.

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Speaker 4: The big boss of the AC East is still the

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Speaker 3: Forty eight to twenty right.

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Speaker 4: Hold that high power Dolphins offense that drops seventy on

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Speaker 4: I think everybody would say is a phenomenal effort. Knowing

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Speaker 4: up three to most other offenses. Cam, what did you see?

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Speaker 4: What did you predict? Give yourself a pat on the back.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, James, I'm a big fan of the wire. And

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Speaker 3: I missed right, It's not missed.

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Speaker 8: The Bills have long been the kings of this AFC East,

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Speaker 9: They scored seventy points.

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Speaker 8: Everybody's crowning them, and I think the Dolphins are well

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Speaker 8: they were not. The Bills had a statement to make

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Speaker 8: We saw all the motion they did, all the speed,

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Speaker 8: old fashioned physicality, punch you in your mouth. They beat

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Speaker 8: You got to get credit to Sean McDermott. They messed

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Speaker 8: another chance. The Dolphins will at the end of the season.

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Speaker 8: But I thought it was very interesting. After the game,

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Speaker 1: I love the wire reference.

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Speaker 2: One of my favorite reference is one of my favorite

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Speaker 2: What about what Ruffalo did to have such a great

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Speaker 1: I mean three tds for Digs.

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Speaker 9: Yes, Steve, that.

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Speaker 8: Was probably one of the best games I've seen of

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Speaker 9: The Dolphins second year corner who's usually in the slot.

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Speaker 8: He had to play outside corner because Jalen Rams is

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Speaker 8: And they really explored vic Vango's d They did not adjust,

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Speaker 9: Not put extra help on Digs.

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Speaker 8: They did not put Exavin Howard on Diggs, and that

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Speaker 8: One other thing that I thought was very interesting, they

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Speaker 9: And so the.

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Speaker 2: Them on both us of all super quickly. Cam, is

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Speaker 8: You know, digs, if you have the digs, if you

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Speaker 9: But hopefully Vic Vangel adjusts.

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Speaker 8: That's the thing that you know, he's a very good

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Speaker 4: Guys, just raise your hand if you're just kind of

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Speaker 4: in that MVP conversation. I love can that we've seen

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Speaker 4: him actually using his legs less, taking fewer hits, which

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Speaker 4: he's wanted to do the last couple of years and

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Speaker 4: actually is able to do it so far this season,

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Speaker 4: and outside of that Jets debacle, the offense hasn't missed

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Speaker 4: a beat, right, they'd still been very effective as an offense,

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Speaker 4: very effective on Sunday, even with him not taking as

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Speaker 4: many hits.

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Speaker 3: Can appreciate it by it.

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Speaker 1: And taking over.

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Speaker 9: And Von Miller should be coming back Soon's a big

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Speaker 9: time yep, yep.

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Speaker 3: Von Mill right on the corner. Let's go. This is

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Speaker 3: what he wanted. Dude down the stretch. Appreciated camp you

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Speaker 3: see anybuddy, Well, listen to this, Steve.

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Speaker 4: We have our second international matchup this week and it

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Speaker 4: can be watched exclusively on NFL Plus. It's the Bills,

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Speaker 4: fabulous venue. October eighth, nineteen thirty am Eastern. So if

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Speaker 4: plus dot NFL dot com. All right, now we are

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Speaker 4: welcomed in by Sherry Burris, who Cherry was at Commanders

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Speaker 4: Eagles overtime.

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Speaker 3: Sherry, take us to.

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Speaker 4: The sideline, the Eagles sideline and Jalen Hurts, because I'm fascinated.

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Speaker 4: You spend a lot of time being a sideline reporter

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Speaker 4: at all these different college and pro games. Like what

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Speaker 4: did you observe from Jalen Hurts on the sideline?

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Speaker 3: Well, it was so interesting.

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Speaker 10: You know, we were able to go down on the

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Speaker 10: field with two minutes left in regulation. I kind of

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Speaker 10: was watching the Commander side, but then realizing that they'd

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Speaker 10: have the ball last I litch really sprinted through the

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Speaker 10: end zone. So the Eagles fans, if they're watching, they'll

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Speaker 10: know what I was doing to get to the other side.

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Speaker 10: And the tension on that Eagles sideline as Washington was driving,

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Speaker 10: you could just feel it like there was a belief

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Speaker 10: that the Eagles were going to hang on, but there

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Speaker 10: was that sliver of like maybe Washington will tie the game.

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Speaker 10: So as we're getting set for overtime, I was just

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Speaker 10: tracking Jalen Hurts. He was pacing at a towel over

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Speaker 10: his head, but his facial expression, his.

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Speaker 3: Emotions really they weren't really even there.

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Speaker 10: I mean, he was very even, Stephen even keel. If

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Speaker 10: I was just watching him, guys, I wouldn't know if

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Speaker 10: this was the first quarter, the fourth quarter, overtime. He

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Speaker 10: was just very steady the entire time until the offense

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Speaker 10: went back out there.

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Speaker 1: So, Sherry, you know, we saw you. They go out there,

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Speaker 1: they drive, they get the.

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Speaker 2: Field goal, eventually win it in overtime, and the Eagles

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Speaker 2: are four and oh. And it's so weird because all

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Speaker 2: you're hearing about the Eagles is they still don't look right.

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Speaker 1: You said to me earlier we were prepping for the show.

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Speaker 1: It feels like a weird four and oh. Four and

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Speaker 1: oh is four and oh to me in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: But why does it still seem like these aren't the

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Speaker 2: Eagles you know that we know of last year.

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Speaker 10: I wonder, Steve if it's because we are so used

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Speaker 10: to the Eagles being the juggernaut and blowing teams out

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Speaker 10: and there being no question if the Eagles are going

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Speaker 10: to win a game. They were trailing in this one.

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Speaker 10: This was the first game Washington had a lead going

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Speaker 10: into the half if you could believe it. So the

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Speaker 10: fact that the Eagles are having to come from behind.

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Speaker 10: It was this week Nick Sirianni is saying, they've won

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Speaker 10: each game this season a different way, and that's showing

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Speaker 10: the character. It's building trust and resilience throughout this team.

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Speaker 10: And if you talk to a bunch of different guys,

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Speaker 10: they'll just tell you they're all still works in progress,

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Speaker 10: which is a little frightening. I would have to imagine

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Speaker 10: the fact that they are one of two teams right

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Speaker 10: now that are four and oh, they are the defending

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Speaker 10: NFC champions, and they still feel like they have progress,

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Speaker 10: like they need to get better. We aren't seeing the

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Speaker 10: impressive stats from jaln this year. He didn't have any

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Speaker 10: turnovers against Washing but three interceptions in the first three games,

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Speaker 10: which is not usual Jalen. He is still one of

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Speaker 10: the top rushing qbs, but there are so many questions

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Speaker 10: about the run game and his arm and you know,

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Speaker 10: has he taken this step back? But you're right, four

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Speaker 10: and Oh is four and oh. But I think most

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Speaker 10: of you know, some of these teams that we expect

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Speaker 10: to do really well, they almost like being sort of

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Speaker 10: off the radar. Not maybe an on the radar team,

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Speaker 10: but something I'd love to be able to ask the

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Speaker 10: Eagles that they're okay with this not being, you know,

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Speaker 10: picked to win the Super Bowl right this second. But

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Speaker 10: it is interesting that it's it's a quiet four and

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Speaker 10: O If that makes sense.

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Speaker 4: I love to share that. You bring up the character

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Speaker 4: of the Philadelphia Eagles. And this is what stands out

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Speaker 4: to me most about this win. That phenomenal deep ball

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Speaker 4: that Jalen Hurts connects with AJ Brown on he gets

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Speaker 4: flagged for the taunting penalty in the end zone, and

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Speaker 4: that drive that ended with Zeros on the clock to

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Speaker 4: send the game into overtime was only sixty four yards

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Speaker 4: because of that AJ Brown penalty. What fascinates me and

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Speaker 4: makes me realize some teams just know how to win

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Speaker 4: is the conversation that Aj Brown and Jalen Hurts had

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Speaker 4: immediately after that touchdown. It wasn't celebrating we took the

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Speaker 4: lead in the closing minutes of the game. It was

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Speaker 4: you can't have a penalty like that, Aj. That's best friend,

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Speaker 4: a best friend telling you you can't put us in

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Speaker 4: that spot. That's Jalen Hurts, one of the leaders of

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Speaker 4: this team. This Steve doesn't show up in the box

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Speaker 4: score about how you manage your entire sideline and manage

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Speaker 4: your roster. You find a way to make sure those

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Speaker 4: mistakes don't happen. They got away with it in this one,

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Speaker 4: and aj Brown was accountable after the game.

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Speaker 3: About the position he put his team in.

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Speaker 4: But I just think when you have that type of

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Speaker 4: leadership Steve on the sideline in game and the wherewithal

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Speaker 4: to bring that up in game to know the importance

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Speaker 4: of it. Him and Kelsey Hurts and Kelsey halftime also

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Speaker 4: made a big part, I'm told in how this game

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Speaker 4: proceeded in the second half because of the penalties and

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Speaker 4: issues in the first half. We mentioned, as Cherry at

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Speaker 4: the top of the show, I hope you were watching

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Speaker 4: or listening. Team just know how to find ways to win,

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Speaker 4: and the Eagles did it in the Friday ways in

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Speaker 4: this one.

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Speaker 2: All right, great point, JP, Sherry, thank you so much,

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Speaker 2: really really good stuff.

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Speaker 1: Now go hug up that cute little daughter yours.

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Speaker 2: You know one team when you talk about leadership issues

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Speaker 2: and knows how to win.

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Speaker 1: It's another four and old four and oh team.

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Speaker 2: And I'm talking about the San Francisco forty nine ers

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Speaker 2: right out JP. The forty nine ers, I mean we're

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Speaker 2: looking at their them against the Arizona Cardinals. Christian McCaffrey

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Speaker 2: going skeets. Neamaya, former world champion hurdler who also played

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Speaker 2: for the forty nine, is hurtling someone into the end

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Speaker 2: zone on a swing.

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Speaker 1: Here he is on a short run. This is one

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Speaker 1: of they had.

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Speaker 2: He had four rushing touchdowns. This was just offensive wizardry.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they didn't do anything extra dynamic other than

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Speaker 2: just great performances. But JP, we heard last week we

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Speaker 2: had safety Talano Hufanga on the show.

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Speaker 1: They wanted to get out of the gate quickly.

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Speaker 2: They wanted to be in mid season form week one

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Speaker 2: because they didn't want any early season losses to come

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Speaker 2: back and bite him down the road for playoff seating

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Speaker 2: things like that. They want the playoffs to come through

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Speaker 2: Levi Stadium. They're in Santa Clara.

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Speaker 1: When you look.

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Speaker 2: At the forty nine Ers, let's say, juxtaposed to the

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Speaker 2: Eagles who are still working on things and the Chiefs

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Speaker 2: who are still working through some things, and maybe in a.

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Speaker 1: Team like the Bills, I mean, what are you seeing.

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Speaker 2: Out of this team that just seems so good in

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Speaker 2: every facet of the game.

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Speaker 4: What I'm seeing is a quarterback that doesn't make mistakes.

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Speaker 4: He went twenty of twenty one. Yeah you heard me right,

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Speaker 4: yea twenty one on the game. A quarterback that gets

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Speaker 4: this entire offense going, and a creative offensive mind that

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Speaker 4: has every weapon you could imagine to go out there

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Speaker 4: and beat you with Steve, And I think that's what

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Speaker 4: stands out to me the most. Christian McCaffrey was the one.

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Speaker 4: I mean, Christian McCaffrey played so well in this game.

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Speaker 4: He put himself in the MVP conversation. So, yeah, sixteen

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Speaker 4: first downs by himself, that's crazy.

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Speaker 3: Nine rushing, seven receiving.

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Speaker 4: That's crazy to think of that, and to think of

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Speaker 4: that combat with event that George Kittle had one target,

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Speaker 4: one catch, Deebo Samuel had zero.

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Speaker 3: Targets in this game.

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Speaker 4: Now, I don't think that's going to be the case

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Speaker 4: against the Cowboys next Sunday. But when you have the

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Speaker 4: ability to be this dominant and have dominant players like

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Speaker 4: the two I just mentioned not even really be included

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Speaker 4: in terms of how you were attacking a team, doesn't

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Speaker 4: mean they weren't included in this offense. We know what

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Speaker 4: they do in other aspects of this offense with their

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Speaker 4: physicality as well. But you have the ability to lean

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Speaker 4: on different players in different instances, in different games. I

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Speaker 4: think we need to be talking about now. I remember

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Speaker 4: doing this game against the Chiefs last year. It was

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Speaker 4: Christian McCaffrey's first game his arrival with the San Francisco

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Speaker 4: forty nine ers. Is there a better player in your mind, Steve,

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Speaker 4: for a better system fit than Christian McCaffrey With Kyle Shanahan, you.

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Speaker 2: Know what, I'll sell you this for the running back position, however,

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Speaker 2: and this is where I think Christian McCaffrey's value has

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Speaker 2: been totally understated.

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Speaker 1: I think he's opened things up for Kyle Shanahan.

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Speaker 2: Sand I've got a running back who's got track speed, who.

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Speaker 1: Runs physically tougher.

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Speaker 2: He runs physically tougher in San Francisco than he did

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Speaker 2: in Carolina Point. And that's a mandate when you play

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Speaker 2: for Kyle Shanahan. And to me again, their Hall of

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Speaker 2: Fame running back coach Bobby Turner, if you play that position,

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Speaker 2: you better finish runs that snap people's head back when

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Speaker 2: you're hitting them in the.

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Speaker 1: Chest or something like that.

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Speaker 2: So the physicality has the receiving aspect that he had.

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Speaker 1: He could throw it too, right. We see him throw

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Speaker 1: a touchdown, so.

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Speaker 2: I think he's I think he has expanded the offense

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Speaker 2: to a point where Kittle was probably thrilled to death

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Speaker 2: to be blocking for him downfield. We saw one of

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Speaker 2: those touchdown debo cleaning up a dB so McCaffrey can

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Speaker 2: get into the ends.

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Speaker 1: I think they love that because he is such a threat.

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Speaker 2: And the fact that we can be talking about a

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Speaker 2: running back in an off season that we've had with

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Speaker 2: conversation about running backs as a potential MVP.

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Speaker 1: I'm all about it, all about it, you right.

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Speaker 3: That's a great point. That's great.

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Speaker 4: Trent Williams was saying this after the game, saying, I

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Speaker 4: knew he was a good back.

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Speaker 3: I knew he was versatile.

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Speaker 4: I didn't know he could pound the football between the

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Speaker 4: tackles and be as physical as an eye formation type

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Speaker 4: of back if you wanted him to be. And the

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Speaker 4: other point I'll make is since brock Party became the quarterback,

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Speaker 4: Brandon Nyuk, Steve oh Yeah has catapulted onto the scene.

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Speaker 4: Another monster game for the wide receiver for the San

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Speaker 4: Francisco forty nine ers. All right, that's wrapping up a

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Speaker 4: couple of teams that are undefeated. What a lot of

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Speaker 4: roses and a lot of smiles in San Francisco and Philadelphia.

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Speaker 4: How about when we come back, Steve, the teams that

660
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Speaker 4: are on the other side of the spectrum. If you

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Speaker 4: have a friend that's a Bears fan, oh I'm a

662
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Speaker 4: hug today, just show him some love.

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Speaker 1: Again.

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Speaker 4: We're going to break down the absolute mess that's going

665
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Speaker 4: on in Chicago as well as Cincinnati. We're going to

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Speaker 4: be joined by Jeff Shadilla coming up on the NFL Report.

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Speaker 2: Well back at the NFL Report, and it's time for

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Speaker 2: our regular Monday First Read segment, and for that we

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Speaker 2: bring in Jeff Shadea whose column First Read is on

670
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Speaker 2: nfl dot com slash first Read. How about that three

671
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Speaker 2: first read references in about the first ten seconds of

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Speaker 2: the bot Jeff hideah, oh, just good to hear it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know you are, hey man, make it happen.

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Speaker 1: And it's really good.

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Speaker 2: You got so much good stuff in there, you know,

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Speaker 2: But we have to hit the negative. It's just that

677
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Speaker 2: time because we see the Cincinnati Bengals, right, a team

678
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Speaker 2: that I think most of us still believe in just

679
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Speaker 2: because of all the talent they have. But right, I mean,

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Speaker 2: they got smoked by the Titans this week. This is

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Speaker 2: a team you know that's gotten well, teams have gotten

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Speaker 2: well against in the Tennessee Titans. What is actually going

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Speaker 2: on in Cincinnati? I mean, it's just Joe Burrow's calf

684
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Speaker 2: is the way defenses are playing their offense differently because

685
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Speaker 2: they are not functioning right now.

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Speaker 11: Well, it's a little bit of both. And you look

687
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Speaker 11: at last year when they started zero to two. The

688
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 11: problem they had then was that Joe Burrow was trying

689
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Speaker 11: too hard to make plays down the field.

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Speaker 1: They want.

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Speaker 9: You mentioned the talent, they wanted to make.

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Speaker 11: Those big plays, and they had to start taking what

693
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Speaker 11: teams were giving them. I think Joe Burrow's calf is

694
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Speaker 11: a real problem for them. He saw it two weeks

695
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Speaker 11: ago against the Rams and how limited he was. He

696
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Speaker 11: looked better this week, but again, they really can't do

697
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Speaker 11: a lot under center with him. They really can't push

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Speaker 11: the ball down the field. Play action is such a

699
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Speaker 11: huge part of their offense as far as creating those

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Speaker 11: big plays, and that's not available to them with him.

701
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Speaker 11: Dealing with this calf strain, so it's a lot going

702
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Speaker 11: off for them. And Tennessee always seems to have games

703
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Speaker 11: like this early in the year where they they got

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Speaker 11: the Chiefs one year, a few years ago they got

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Speaker 11: the Rams when they were riding high in their bow year.

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Speaker 3: They will get teams if they're not ready to play football.

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Speaker 11: But I do believe the Bengals have enough talent and

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Speaker 11: enough pedigree to overcome this and get back into the

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Speaker 11: playoff race.

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Speaker 4: I do think, Jeff, we are we're in a bit

711
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Speaker 4: of an interesting spot. I was with the Bengals early

712
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Speaker 4: in the season. It was what Week one, it was

713
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Speaker 4: on the weather. Week two, it was wow, Joe Burrow

714
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Speaker 4: wasn't there throughout the entire preseason, entire preseason and training camp.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna We've been here before. Zero to two. We're

716
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Speaker 3: gonna be fine. Look at us.

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Speaker 4: Week three it was against the Ramss. Well least the

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Speaker 4: second half. The offense started to get a little bit better.

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Speaker 4: We're back on track. And now it was like this

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Speaker 4: time after this game, though, Steve, it was a little

721
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 4: bit the frustration was boiling over. It was a little

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Speaker 4: bit of we're gonna be okay early on and now

723
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Speaker 4: it looks like with guys like Jamar Chase and company

724
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Speaker 4: are are a little bit frustrated. What stands out to

725
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Speaker 4: me is teams are blitzing Joe Burrow to a higher rate,

726
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Speaker 4: vastly higher rate than they did a year ago, obviously

727
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Speaker 4: because he can't move. He is a much better athlete

728
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Speaker 4: than probably a lot of people give him credit for

729
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Speaker 4: in terms of the ability to throw in the run,

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Speaker 4: the ability.

731
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Speaker 3: To escape pressure.

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Speaker 4: He has been pressured like thirty five percent of his

733
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Speaker 4: dropbacks and he has the second lowest time to throw

734
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Speaker 4: the football. There's been some changes on that offensive line,

735
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Speaker 4: and maybe that's another edition of this Steve that is playing,

736
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Speaker 4: you know, rearing its head in a sense to where

737
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Speaker 4: he hasn't had a whole lot of time and he

738
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Speaker 4: can't move.

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Speaker 1: Just speaking of time, what's the deal.

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Speaker 2: They have not scored an offensive touchdown in the first

741
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Speaker 2: half all season.

742
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Speaker 1: That's a staggering That is a staggering stat to me.

743
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Speaker 3: Unbelievable. Unbelievable.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, and really, you know, it's I think James Bit's

745
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 11: a good point. You know, even though most of the

746
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 11: corp is still there, I think especially on defense, because

747
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Speaker 11: Tennessee is not an explosive offensive safety. I think they

748
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Speaker 11: miss von Bell. I think they missed Jesse Bates. I

749
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 11: think they're more athletic in the back end. But you're

750
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Speaker 11: not seeing them take control of games. And I say this,

751
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 11: you know again living in Kansas City, I see it

752
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 11: with the Chiefs. They're going through their own offensive struggles

753
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 11: right now, but the defense is stepping up. You see

754
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Speaker 11: that with the Jets. Zach Wilson is not getting done

755
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 11: last last night. They step up with the defense. They

756
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Speaker 11: got to get some plays from somebody else. Can't wait

757
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 11: till Joe gets better and everything it will start going

758
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 11: in the right direction. It's a team game. They got

759
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Speaker 11: good players. Other guys have to start doing more.

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Speaker 1: All right, jee All.

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Speaker 4: Right, Jeff, you've been covering this league for a long time. Steve,

762
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Speaker 4: you've been covering this league for a very long time.

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Speaker 4: I want to ask both of you. With the Chicago Bears,

764
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Speaker 4: have you seen an organization in let's not say a

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Speaker 4: week's time, let's say an entire season, had their quarterback

766
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Speaker 4: come out talk about certain things in terms of coaching, his.

767
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Speaker 3: Opinion about what's happening to the offense.

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Speaker 4: Then have to in the locker room speak again to

769
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Speaker 4: clarify his statements, then have a head coach say things

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Speaker 4: about Claypool w Chase Claypool about how things were going

771
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Speaker 4: to how things went down, about him not being at

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Speaker 4: the game on Sunday, and then then have to come

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Speaker 4: out with a statement when the writers are up in

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Speaker 4: the press box later.

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Speaker 3: In the day.

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Speaker 4: How many times have you seen teams have to go

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Speaker 4: back around and clarify communication errors within a season, in

778
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Speaker 4: a whole season. I think we've had three of them

779
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Speaker 4: with the Bears in one week.

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Speaker 3: Well, I can tell you this.

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Speaker 11: You know, my first year covering in the NFL was

782
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 11: nineteen ninety six and they covered the Oakland Raiders. And

783
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 11: then my first year covering the team, John fought for

784
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 11: the defensive coordinator. He vanished in training camp. Anthony Smith

785
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 11: was the starting defensive end. He vanished in week four,

786
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 11: Whard he lost his job, and then by weeks by

787
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 11: seasons then Tim Brown was threatening to call the play

788
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 11: because he was so upset with the offense. So that's

789
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 11: my barn, That's that's what I consider. But the Bears

790
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 11: are getting close.

791
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Speaker 1: Right now, Oh my god, what's going on there?

792
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 3: And it really is?

793
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Speaker 11: Look, I do start to fear for people's jobs at

794
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 11: this stage, because after the way Kansas City beat them down,

795
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,879
Speaker 11: and after blowing that, you know, twenty one point lead

796
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 11: against the Denver Broncos, they're not in a good place.

797
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 11: And we were talking about Chase Claypool having a stay

798
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Speaker 11: away from the facility. I don't know what he's doing

799
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Speaker 11: or what he's saying, but that to me is a

800
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 11: huge red flag about what's happening in the locker room

801
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 11: and how people are feeling about Justin Yield as a quarterback.

802
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,839
Speaker 11: But but again, Steve, you know this, It's like when

803
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,800
Speaker 11: when teams come in and you have a young quarterback

804
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 11: and draft at high so you feel that the need

805
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 11: to build the offense around it. But you have a

806
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 11: defensive minor head coach, and so you got to find

807
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 11: a way to get that side of the football going.

808
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 11: They've just been all over the place. And when that happens,

809
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 11: and at least at the top of the food chain,

810
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:21,280
Speaker 11: it affects everything.

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00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 3: Sooner or later, what's the adversity hits.

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Speaker 2: And and you know what, it's It's funny because yesterday,

813
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 2: for most of that game, Justin Fields was playing the game.

814
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:28,959
Speaker 1: Of his life.

815
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Speaker 3: He looked unbelievable.

816
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 1: He looked fantastic. Right, he's the best player on the field. Yeah.

817
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 2: Their defense, their defense looked like they actually had a

818
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 2: clue and you know, how to stop somebody. And then

819
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 2: of course it was like, okay, how are we not

820
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 2: going to lose this one?

821
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 1: Too late?

822
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 2: You blinked, you lose the ball game. But to get

823
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 2: back to James's point, this is a bigger issue what's

824
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 2: going on with the Bears, because it's funny, you know,

825
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 2: are the draft, everybody was ballyhooing their draft. Now we're

826
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 2: saying these guys can't play. Now people are you know,

827
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 2: there's whiskers off. Maybe Ryan Pole's got into this as

828
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 2: a general manager a couple of years too early. Matt

829
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 2: Ebraflus is not the guy. And when you start seeing

830
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 2: things like these clarifications, you have to make Yeah, Jeff

831
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 2: and I we've been covering this game for decades. And Jeff,

832
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 2: by the way, my bar is the Bobby Petrino year

833
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 2: in Atlanta. After the dog fighting scandal, Patrino quits in

834
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:18,800
Speaker 2: the middle.

835
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Speaker 3: Of the season.

836
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 2: We had all kind of chaos, We all kind of

837
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 2: chaos going on with that team.

838
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,320
Speaker 1: But again, not being in Chicago.

839
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:31,839
Speaker 2: I can feel the constant churning of guts from all

840
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:33,439
Speaker 2: the way out here in Los Angeles, like.

841
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 1: It is not good.

842
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 2: And like you said, this latest thing Matt Evenflus, the

843
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 2: head coach, came out Monday saying Chase Claypool has been

844
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 2: told not to be with the team all week because

845
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:48,359
Speaker 2: we have a Thursday night game. They haven't suspended him, right,

846
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:53,760
Speaker 2: So whatever is going on there is real peculiar. But again,

847
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 2: we're probably not going to find out the real story

848
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 2: until they do another mia culpa or slash clarification.

849
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 1: Based on the way things are going.

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Speaker 2: I almost feel bad for people now because they can't

851
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 2: get their stories straight. You know who always gets a

852
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:13,240
Speaker 2: story straight, Jeff Bill Belichick. Right, he benches his quarterback

853
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 2: during a shelaking a thirty eighth to the Sheilaki by

854
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys with the Patriots yesterday. He says Mac

855
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 2: Jones was he benched. Wides felt it was best for

856
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 2: him just not to be in there. It was almost like,

857
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 2: we don't want to get our guy killed because this

858
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 2: isn't going well and we want to pretend. I don't know,

859
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 2: but you know, we talked about the Bills early in

860
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 2: the show, how good they're playing. We know the Dolphins

861
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 2: are really good, and the Jets actually show the signs

862
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 2: of life Sunday night life. The Patriots, Jeff, I mean,

863
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 2: we've we've held on for years now since Brady. Well,

864
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 2: they're in the Patriots, they'll be there. I don't think

865
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 2: anyone can say that right now because they don't look

866
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 2: like they have any playmakers or any real idea of

867
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 2: how to work themselves out of a jam.

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Speaker 11: Now, and they're really you know, for so many years

869
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 11: when Brady was there, there was the belief of we

870
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 11: can just find certain guys, fit him into our scheme,

871
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 11: coach him up, and we'll get great results. And they

872
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 11: still operate that way, and Bill still operates that way.

873
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 11: And the reality of it is, the teams that are

874
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 11: winning consistently year in and year out right now have

875
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 11: a lot of good players. They have playmakers, and they

876
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 11: have a really good defense. They've got players on that

877
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 11: side of the football. But Mac Jones is not a

878
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 11: quarterback who can get them over the top. They haven't

879
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,799
Speaker 11: given him a great supporting cast to work with, and.

880
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:32,839
Speaker 3: It shows up each week.

881
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 11: You know, I watched that Dallas Patriots game and it

882
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 11: was watching it was it was painful because he was

883
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,879
Speaker 11: making decisions that you can't do. You can do him

884
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 11: if you're Josh Allen or if you're Patrick Mahone, right

885
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:44,479
Speaker 11: you can roll to the right side of the field

886
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 11: and throw the football back to the left and think

887
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 11: you're gonna make something happen. You can't do it if

888
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 11: you're Mac Jones. And I understand how Bill felt, and

889
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 11: I've seen him do this before where he's pull players

890
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 11: and put him back in. But that team right now

891
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,800
Speaker 11: is operating as if it's nineteen, if it's two thousand

892
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 11: and eight, and it's not.

893
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 4: I look at the Caleb Williams article Jeff and GQ saying,

894
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 4: I don't want to go to the wrong organization.

895
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 3: A I don't want to go to the really Arizona

896
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:12,320
Speaker 3: Cardinals is what he's saying.

897
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 4: What was mac Jones going through his mind when he

898
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 4: was drafting and walking with his straight arms across the

899
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 4: top of the top of the stage going to missionear.

900
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 4: He was probably going, I'm going to the Patriots. This

901
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 4: is phenomenal. And what if they given him now three

902
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:30,720
Speaker 4: offensive coordinators in three years and honestly doing their opener

903
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 4: against the Philadelphia Eagles. Talking everybody up there that covers

904
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 4: the team on a daily basis, on a great, great

905
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 4: embedded beat, they were, like I was told, universally, I

906
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 4: don't think they have a whole lot of talent, and

907
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 4: that's been the problem, from skill position players to anchors

908
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 4: on that offensive line. And then your two most talented

909
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 4: guys on the defensive side of the ball go down

910
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 4: in that game on Sunday and Matthew Judon and the

911
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:54,320
Speaker 4: talented rookie and Christian Gonzales.

912
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 3: That's a big.

913
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 4: Blow to a defense that you were going to hang

914
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 4: your hat on. It's been tough sledding for Mac Jones.

915
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 4: Maybe go talk to Kayla Williams just say, hey, organizations

916
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 4: can change very very quickly, and you know one that did.

917
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 4: The Houston Texans. Oh very We're gonna keep round on

918
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 4: the NFL Reporter as we talk about c J. Stroud

919
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 4: and Damico Ryans, what this young quarterback is doing in

920
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 4: four games?

921
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 3: Historic Oh h NFL Report.

922
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 2: I were back at the NFL Report, and as Leonardo

923
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 2: DiCaprio said in Django, you have my attention, that would

924
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 2: be you Houston Texans, Jeff Shediah, the Texans.

925
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 1: Whole things are gonna go from house. No, no, no,

926
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:50,479
Speaker 1: we're just staying right there.

927
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 4: C J.

928
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 1: Stroud, Jeff, what do you got? Oh?

929
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 11: You know, I talked to a friend of mine, personnel

930
00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 11: director about him last week and just raved about him

931
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 11: and just talked about just how clean he is mechanically

932
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 11: and just seeing the same things you saw.

933
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:06,800
Speaker 3: At Ohio State.

934
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 11: Great process of information. But really the point he made,

935
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 11: which I think is appropriate, is that the Tectors has

936
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 11: done a great job of putting a good group around him.

937
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 11: You see the depth of their offensive line they've had

938
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 11: makeshift offensive line after makeshift offensive line, he still goes

939
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:24,720
Speaker 11: out there and feels comfortable. Nice connection with Nico Collins

940
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 11: and James You know, it's nobody believed in this team,

941
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 11: but c J. Stroud from your Ohio State university is

942
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,320
Speaker 11: proving to be the best chy quarterback in his class.

943
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 3: He really is.

944
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 4: And I'm going back to a couple of things that

945
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 4: I was told during the draft process about him, And

946
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 4: now it's a chance to see these four games, Jeff

947
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,319
Speaker 4: and see them kind of come to light. Because you

948
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 4: mentioned that makeshift offensive line, he wasn't sacked by the Pitts.

949
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 1: That's crazy. That was crazy.

950
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 4: I couldn't believe that happened, right, And to me, I

951
00:43:58,280 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 4: go back and look at some of the stuff that's

952
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 4: got this said.

953
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 3: You know themotion's a little bit funky. He's kind I

954
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:04,760
Speaker 3: don't know, he's kind of a pusher of the ball.

955
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,320
Speaker 4: But I'm not saying that in a bad manner because

956
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 4: the ball is out quick, his motion is short, He's decisive,

957
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 4: he doesn't really hesitate. Steve don't all those things kind

958
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 4: of come together and culminate going I don't have a

959
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 4: whole lot of time back here, and I'm gonna make

960
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:23,320
Speaker 4: a quick decision, and I'm not gonna make a bad decision.

961
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 4: That's the other part he's thrived in early on, but

962
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 4: to make sure the ball's out of his hands quickly.

963
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 4: To some of these guys, it's not like he lit

964
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 4: up the world against the Steelers, you know. I mean,

965
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 4: I think hat like a fifty percent completion percentage, but

966
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 4: going over three hundred yards again, it's he's not hurting

967
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 4: his team by any stretch. But he gets through the

968
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 4: ball quickly because he knows that this offensive line has

969
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 4: been littered with injuries. He plays this game, I believe

970
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 4: without Laramie Tunsel again, right, And so it's it's been

971
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 4: very impressive of what he's been able to do when

972
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 4: you've got a guy like TJ.

973
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 3: Watt bearing down at you.

974
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:54,319
Speaker 2: I mean, he's been so good and the fact they're

975
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 2: playing such complimentary football, it's almost like he's saying, I've

976
00:44:58,200 --> 00:44:59,839
Speaker 2: got to do my share. I mean, the kicking game

977
00:44:59,920 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 2: is has been very good, the defense has played very well.

978
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 1: And I love love what he.

979
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 2: Said after the game, because they said all the Steelers

980
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 2: fans that were in the stadium and in our g stadium.

981
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 2: He was like, oh no, we're gonna make it so

982
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 2: people feel good about wearing the Texans brand gear around here.

983
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 2: That stuff that happened in the past doesn't fly with me.

984
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 2: That is music to the great football fans down in Houston,

985
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 2: Texas to say, now we have a quarterback who is

986
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 2: not only certain of himself, but he understands the importance

987
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 2: of this game and the way he is playing it.

988
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 1: You talked about getting the ball out.

989
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:39,240
Speaker 2: Quickly, them jet designing an offense to fit around him.

990
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 1: It is a really really good setup.

991
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:45,320
Speaker 2: And when this offensive line comes back fully, I mean, I'm.

992
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 1: Kind of wondering where this thing can go.

993
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 2: I mean, we need to start talking about them as

994
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 2: potential winners of this AFC South, the division we already

995
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 2: know is up for grass wincy Damian Pierce finally be

996
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:56,839
Speaker 2: able to run the ball like he did yesterday too

997
00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:00,879
Speaker 2: against his defense. Guys, this is a dangerous team because CJ.

998
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 2: Shroud absolutely looks like the leader, Jeff. Once again, we

999
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 2: want to thank you NFL dot Com Slash First Read

1000
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 2: Jeff Todia every Monday here on the first Read segment.

1001
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 1: That's right, CJ. Shroud did not get sacked.

1002
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 7: The boy did Aid and O'Connell, all because of one dude.

1003
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 7: Calif Mack comes in with a half dozen of the

1004
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 7: dirty dirty against the hated Raiders.

1005
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 1: What more we come back here on the NFL.

1006
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:42,280
Speaker 3: Welcome back to the NFL Report.

1007
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 4: As we closed things up, James Palmer, Steve Whitch with you,

1008
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 4: we want to recognize one player that stood out to

1009
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 4: each of us, Steve fire Away.

1010
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I think Khalil Mack hurt us really

1011
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 2: propping up his teammate Tully to a below to last week,

1012
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 2: the edge rusher who was getting all of the sacks

1013
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 2: leading into this game. Because Khalil Mack comes up to

1014
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,839
Speaker 2: play the Las Vegas Raiders, a team that drafted him

1015
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 2: but didn't want to pay him.

1016
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 1: He hits him with six sacks. I was at this game.

1017
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:15,720
Speaker 1: Six six sacks he's won away from Derek Thomas's record.

1018
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 2: Not only that, ten tackles, five TFLs, four hurries, and

1019
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 2: two forest fumbles.

1020
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 1: After the game, Raiders.

1021
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,320
Speaker 2: Had goa Josh mccaniel said, hey, we were chipping in,

1022
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 2: we were doubling him.

1023
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 1: Went back and looked at the tape. The answer to

1024
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 1: that was no, you didn't not once.

1025
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 2: Maybe that was in the intent JP, but Khalil Mack

1026
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 2: reminded everybody he is still a dude.

1027
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:41,839
Speaker 1: Six sacks he had. What do you got? JP?

1028
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 3: He had those six sacks with like twelve minutes to go.

1029
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 3: It was a fourth quarter.

1030
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 1: It was insane. It's a time here.

1031
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 3: It was unbelievable. Listen.

1032
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 4: He didn't get the w But I was blown away

1033
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:57,760
Speaker 4: by the comeback that Anthony Richardson led in the Colts

1034
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 4: attempt to take the down down twenty three to nothing

1035
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 4: and comes back and comes back in this game and

1036
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 4: never gets the football in overtime, which was a bit

1037
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 4: of a shame because your guy Poka Nakua and Sam

1038
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 4: and Matthew Stafford take care of business and overtime. But

1039
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 4: seeing the calmness that Anthony Richardson had Steve seeing how

1040
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 4: after the game he said, you know, and Aaron Donald's

1041
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,359
Speaker 4: a tremendous player. It took me a minute to figure out,

1042
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 4: you know, how physical and how fast he is. To me,

1043
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 4: that's a player that's really having things click very quickly.

1044
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 1: Right.

1045
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 4: He goes, oh, I understand about what Aaron Donald does.

1046
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 4: And then you see him what thirty eight yards Aaron

1047
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 4: Donald draped all over him.

1048
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 3: He gets pierced down the sidelent for a brilliant pass.

1049
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 4: Like he was figuring things out, the physical ability he has.

1050
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 4: I heard Matthew Stafford raving about him to Albert Breer

1051
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 4: and his Monday Morning quarterback saying, this guy's a limit.

1052
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:50,760
Speaker 4: The guy's just incredible, incredible, just like this show.

1053
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 3: Steve. Great to be with you again. See a Thursday.

1054
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:54,840
Speaker 3: Everyone in the NFL Report