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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to coast am on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: So tell us about the alien abduction phenomena. Is that

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Speaker 2: all tied into close encounters?

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Speaker 3: Well, the abduction phenomenon, I mean, I had that happen

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Speaker 3: to me, so I'm definitely part of it is a

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Speaker 3: subset of a very much larger experience that mankind is

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Speaker 3: having with this. Like, for example, if you go into

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Speaker 3: the Communion Letters archive, you find very few descriptions of abductions.

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Speaker 3: Not there's some, certainly, I mean there's a significant minority

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Speaker 3: of let me even that way. It's not they're not

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Speaker 3: that rare, but they're certainly not the majority. The actual

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Speaker 3: truth is that the experience is so varied, so complex

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Speaker 3: that you it is it's the most complex thing that

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Speaker 3: has ever happened to human beings. And this is one

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Speaker 3: of the things that this book. When you read those

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Speaker 3: letters altogether and the analysis of the letters, you realize

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Speaker 3: this is something something is happening to these people, and

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Speaker 3: it is very different. Like there's one guy, I just

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Speaker 3: I'm back in correspondence with some of them, some of

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Speaker 3: them are still with us and with him, and he

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Speaker 3: still remembers this experience like it was yesterday. He was

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Speaker 3: he was working late, and he came home in the

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Speaker 3: early hours of the morning and went to bed, and

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Speaker 3: as he put it, it felt like his head exploded,

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Speaker 3: like he no longer existed. Now, there's a syndrome called

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Speaker 3: exploding head syndrome, if you can believe it, But the

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Speaker 3: head doesn't actually explode, but the person has this pressure,

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Speaker 3: this feeling that they're head has exploded. And he had that,

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Speaker 3: but then something happened that was very different. If you'd think,

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Speaker 3: if that was only the only thing the letter was about,

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Speaker 3: you would send him a note saying, well, why don't

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Speaker 3: you talk to a neurologist and he'll tell you about

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Speaker 3: what happened to you. And you had this thing called

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Speaker 3: exploding head syndrome, which is a known syndrome. But a

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Speaker 3: little while later, this noise comes over his house, this

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Speaker 3: throbbing noise, and he begins to feel as if his

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Speaker 3: soul is being pulled out of his body. And this

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Speaker 3: is I mean, we live in a civilization where we

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Speaker 3: deny that if the soul even exists, and most of

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Speaker 3: us we would say, oh, I haven't believe I have

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Speaker 3: a soul, but we don't feel that you don't feel that.

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Speaker 3: And you know, we look at death and we think, well,

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Speaker 3: do I have a So here he is, and he

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Speaker 3: starts to struggle with this, and finally his wife embraces

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Speaker 3: him and ends up embracing him on top of him.

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Speaker 3: And they're struggling with this thing throbbing above the house

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Speaker 3: and his soul going up, and his wife calling to

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Speaker 3: him and calling to him and holding him and saying,

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Speaker 3: don't leave, don't leave. And this goes on for two

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Speaker 3: and a half hours, through the whole night, and then

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Speaker 3: at dawn, as dawn breaks, the throbbing noise slowly disappears

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Speaker 3: into the night, into what is left of the night,

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Speaker 3: and they are left alone. Now, what in the world

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Speaker 3: was that about? Was someone trying to steal his soul?

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Speaker 3: Or was someone trying to replace it? What was going

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Speaker 3: on there? George? We don't know where we are or

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Speaker 3: what we are, or who in the world is here

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Speaker 2: Are these visitors trying to communicate with us with Ley?

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Speaker 3: Yes, some of them. And if you read the book,

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Speaker 3: you find that there are parts of this that indicate

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Speaker 3: there is real hope for something happening here that's positive

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Speaker 3: and good for us. But there's also a darker side

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Speaker 3: to it, no question, Like the abductions, just go back

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Speaker 3: to that, and they will talk about communication in a second.

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Speaker 3: The abductions were basically they're not going on very much anymore.

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Speaker 3: You rarely hear about them. You know, we would get

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Speaker 3: the reports at unknown country if they were happening a lot,

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Speaker 3: would have been in the seventies. So it was. It was.

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Speaker 3: It was an operation of some kind that went on,

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Speaker 3: and it started in the late sixties and went into

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Speaker 3: the late nineties, and then it kind of tapered off.

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Speaker 3: But what was consistently done is sexual material was taken

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Speaker 3: from people. I had it taken from me. Many women

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Speaker 3: lost eggs and fetuses, and what happened? What was it done?

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Speaker 3: I think the core of the secrecy is the fact

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Speaker 3: that this was done, and when it was done, it

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Speaker 3: would never reveal, it would never it that this was happening,

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Speaker 3: And believe me, I know people deep in this and

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Speaker 3: this is their primary concern. This is the reason, this

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Speaker 3: is the core reason for the secrecy right here now.

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Speaker 2: In part two, you talk about a conflict between the

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Speaker 3: Well, it started very early and it was intentionally brought

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Speaker 3: on purpose, but it's not because it's because for whatever

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Speaker 3: reason they can't or won't just sit down and talk

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Speaker 3: with us. I don't think they can't, and I'll tell

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Speaker 3: you why in a little while. What they did was

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Speaker 3: it started before the Roswell incident. They there were miss

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Speaker 3: Russia I mean, excuse me, German missiles being tested at

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Speaker 3: White sand These missiles had been confiscated from the Nazis

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Speaker 3: as were World War Two ended, and they were testing

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Speaker 3: And stuff began to happen to them. Something would shoot

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Speaker 2: Testing them and this.

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Speaker 3: Was of course the beginning of the atomic age. And

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Speaker 3: what was happening was that someone was trying to maybe

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Speaker 3: because they would have known that that atomic warheads were

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Speaker 3: have even known that eventually there would be many countries

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Speaker 3: reaching Israel. Because Israel is such a small country, they

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Speaker 3: and the Israelis know it, there's no question about it.

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Speaker 3: If they were able to do that, they would destroy Israel.

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Speaker 2: They would try, that's for sure, succeed.

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Speaker 3: If they got an atomic warhead detonated anywhere over that

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Speaker 3: the Israelis know how vulnerable they are, and that's why

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Speaker 3: they have such a massive program in Iran to continually

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Speaker 3: screw up their progress with their atomic weapons. In any case,

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Speaker 3: that's not really part of our story. The point is

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Speaker 3: that early on the visitors knew that atomic weapons were

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Speaker 3: extremely dangerous. And now what then happens is this crash

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Speaker 3: occurs north of Roswell, thirty miles away. Now, why are

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Speaker 3: And Stalin knows this, and this is what prevents him

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Speaker 3: from invading Western Europe. Now something crashes an unknown craft

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Speaker 3: They're very worried. And I think, and I can't prove this,

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Speaker 3: me that they didn't have a fully the wing was

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Speaker 3: as Arthur Exon put it, when they began to gather

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Speaker 3: that were not human beings. And this is nineteen forty seven. Remember,

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Speaker 3: nobody knows the thing about aliens. We have no idea

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Speaker 3: yet how big the universe actually is. There's no such

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Speaker 3: the universe around us, And all of a sudden, something

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Speaker 3: I mean not Belle said to me. Everyone from Truman

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Speaker 3: That's a quote. Now, let's understand something about the visitors.

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Speaker 3: They don't have the same relationship to death that we do.

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Speaker 2: They probably download thoughts and brains and put it in

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Speaker 3: I mean, you don't know how they do it, but

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Speaker 3: they they whatever happened at Roswell, they were I think

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Speaker 3: they did it because they knew that it would be

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Speaker 2: So you're saying they engineered the secrecy.

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Speaker 3: They engineered the secrecy from the beginning. Whether they did

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Speaker 3: it was their actions that caused the secrecy, and during

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Speaker 3: the abduction period the secrecy was essential. They couldn't do that.

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Speaker 3: If we had known that was happening, this would have

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Speaker 3: been you're talking about guns, We got guns now. We

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Speaker 3: People would have been waiting.

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Speaker 2: For them, especially if the government said we can't stop

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Speaker 2: this exactly.

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Speaker 3: But instead it was all kept secret and they were

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Speaker 3: free to do what they wanted to do. Now, the

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Speaker 3: interesting thing is now it's the situation is different. The

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Speaker 3: that things happening all the time that are very strange.

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Speaker 3: I mean, art and I wrote Superstorm, and it sometimes

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Speaker 3: it looks like it's about to happen. And we also

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Speaker 3: have the proliferation of nuclear weapons into the hands of

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Speaker 2: I was just going to say that that's all you need.

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Speaker 3: Only takes one. So you've got these two things that

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Speaker 3: the visitors have been concerned about from the get go,

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Speaker 3: nuclear were and environment. They do want us to survive,

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Speaker 3: no question. I don't know what their motives are. They

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Speaker 3: may not be good to our liking, but they definitely

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Speaker 3: want us to survive. So their situation has now changed.

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Speaker 3: They no longer need secrecy. They need to be to

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Speaker 3: come out and to be known, and I think that

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Speaker 3: that might happen. But if it does happen, it's going

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Speaker 3: to be them who engineered it, not us. The government,

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Speaker 3: as I've said earlier, and for reasons that are very obvious,

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Speaker 3: is going to be drag caking and screaming into this.

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Speaker 3: It's not going to be telling any anything unless absolutely

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Speaker 3: they have to, and the visitors could make them do it,

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Speaker 3: I'm sure.

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