WEBVTT - Digging into the Latest Design Changes at Augusta National 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:02.800 I miss a green, for example, I'm already upset. When 0:00:02.800 --> 0:00:04.920 I find my ball in the bunker, I'm really upset. 0:00:05.000 --> 0:00:06.920 And when I find my ball in a brid egg, 0:00:07.160 --> 0:00:10.600 Friday Egg, the dreaded Frida Egg, Friday, Frida Egg, Brian Egg, 0:00:10.640 --> 0:00:12.959 Frida Egg, Bride Egg Lie, I'm about ready to run 0:00:13.000 --> 0:00:36.880 off of the hump. Hello and welcome to the Frida 0:00:36.920 --> 0:00:40.280 Egg Podcast. My name is Garrett Morrison. I'm here today 0:00:40.520 --> 0:00:42.920 with Andy Johnson. How are we doing, Andy. 0:00:42.880 --> 0:00:44.680 Garrett, I'm wonderful. How are you doing? 0:00:45.159 --> 0:00:49.599 I'm doing all right, busy day today. Just interviewed Amelia 0:00:49.600 --> 0:00:53.320 Emiliacho this morning for another podcast that's going to come 0:00:53.360 --> 0:00:56.640 out before this one. So an exciting couple of weeks 0:00:56.720 --> 0:01:00.360 coming up. We've got the Annua and the Show Around 0:01:00.400 --> 0:01:03.320 Championship on the LPGA Tour next week, and then the 0:01:03.360 --> 0:01:06.720 week after that is of course the Masters. You're gonna 0:01:06.720 --> 0:01:08.880 be on the road traveling a little bit. We've got 0:01:08.880 --> 0:01:10.320 a Friday event coming up as well. 0:01:10.600 --> 0:01:11.959 Yeah, we got our first event. 0:01:12.560 --> 0:01:15.959 We are also uh first time credentialed at the Masters, 0:01:15.959 --> 0:01:16.720 so that's exciting. 0:01:16.760 --> 0:01:17.240 I'll be there. 0:01:17.400 --> 0:01:19.240 Amazing and how did that happen? 0:01:19.920 --> 0:01:22.160 Lots of years of rejection before. 0:01:21.959 --> 0:01:25.280 You just keep trying and eventually they get in exactly. 0:01:25.360 --> 0:01:27.880 It's like, uh, you know, I think a lot of 0:01:27.880 --> 0:01:31.080 people could relate to that with with various aspects of life. 0:01:31.080 --> 0:01:33.280 But yeah, if you if you say, if you ask 0:01:33.400 --> 0:01:35.679 enough time, so eventually they might say yes. You know, 0:01:35.760 --> 0:01:37.280 they can't say yes if you don't ask. 0:01:37.400 --> 0:01:39.120 I don't know if that's good advice or not, but 0:01:39.360 --> 0:01:41.720 with with the Master's credential, I think probably it's a 0:01:41.880 --> 0:01:43.080 it's a solid bit of advice. 0:01:43.560 --> 0:01:45.200 Yeah, really excited about that. 0:01:45.360 --> 0:01:47.840 And I can't wait to get down there and and 0:01:48.040 --> 0:01:50.680 cover cover one of them from the ground and and 0:01:51.480 --> 0:01:52.640 it'll be it'll be fun. 0:01:52.920 --> 0:01:53.760 I'm going to write a lot. 0:01:53.800 --> 0:01:56.320 I've been writing some getting warmed up, you know, I've 0:01:56.320 --> 0:01:59.360 been getting ready with uh, getting the pen back out. 0:01:59.440 --> 0:02:01.640 You've been flex the riding muscle quite a bit lately. 0:02:01.960 --> 0:02:04.080 Check out the website. Andy has been up there with 0:02:04.120 --> 0:02:07.080 some some really good articles, one on green speeds recently 0:02:07.200 --> 0:02:10.160 and you know the and one on the latest changes 0:02:10.200 --> 0:02:12.359 to Augusta National, which which we are going to talk 0:02:12.400 --> 0:02:15.360 about today. So at the Masters we are going to 0:02:15.440 --> 0:02:18.920 have you there credentialed. We're also going to have Brendan 0:02:19.000 --> 0:02:21.600 there and Will as well. There's going to be a 0:02:21.600 --> 0:02:23.840 little house. Is Cameron going to be there. 0:02:23.840 --> 0:02:26.160 Yeah, for a couple of days, so he'll be there 0:02:26.200 --> 0:02:28.360 just early in the week and he's got a bunch 0:02:28.360 --> 0:02:30.799 of different things he's doing, but yeah, we'll be there. 0:02:31.440 --> 0:02:35.880 We'll be doing daily Shotgun Start podcasts and then obviously 0:02:35.919 --> 0:02:39.080 we'll have the daily newsletters on the Frida Egg. You know, 0:02:39.160 --> 0:02:41.960 this is a you know, free advertisement for our own company, 0:02:42.000 --> 0:02:44.560 but sign up for those if you if you haven't yet, 0:02:44.560 --> 0:02:46.880 you go to the Frida egg dot com and we'll 0:02:46.919 --> 0:02:49.280 get those out daily during the week and then there'll 0:02:49.320 --> 0:02:51.160 be a ton of stuff going on on social media, 0:02:51.320 --> 0:02:54.040 so I'm excited. I'm going to bring my camera out 0:02:54.120 --> 0:02:56.720 for the first couple rounds, for the practice rounds, and 0:02:56.760 --> 0:02:59.840 we'll have some photo journals on on social on Instagram. 0:02:59.880 --> 0:03:02.480 And I wish I could go to the ANWA but 0:03:02.720 --> 0:03:04.640 it coincides with the Charleston event. 0:03:05.120 --> 0:03:06.360 It's kind of a bummer, but. 0:03:06.280 --> 0:03:08.639 Hopefully hopefully we go back next year and I can 0:03:08.720 --> 0:03:11.679 go to that next year because that's that's I think 0:03:11.720 --> 0:03:14.920 one of the most fun days that Saturday. I'm not 0:03:15.480 --> 0:03:17.840 I have to I'm not crazy about the format, but 0:03:17.919 --> 0:03:21.040 that Saturday is really great at Augusta and Ashletal. 0:03:21.280 --> 0:03:24.000 Do you wish there were more rounds at Augusta? Yeah, Well, 0:03:24.160 --> 0:03:25.120 is that the basic take? 0:03:25.320 --> 0:03:27.600 Yeah, I think it's just kind of a cop out 0:03:27.639 --> 0:03:29.600 to not have more rounds at Augusta. 0:03:29.800 --> 0:03:32.840 But it's it's great that they have it, you know. 0:03:33.120 --> 0:03:36.240 And I think if you thought about this ten years ago, 0:03:36.280 --> 0:03:40.240 it seemed far fetched. And I think the Augusta's done 0:03:40.240 --> 0:03:43.000 a lot of things in the last you know, decade 0:03:43.040 --> 0:03:45.920 that has taken them from way behind the times to 0:03:46.360 --> 0:03:48.840 on the forefront of the times in golf, you know, 0:03:49.000 --> 0:03:52.600 with with their expansion with the Asian Pacific am you know, 0:03:52.680 --> 0:03:56.320 being kind of the first one of many steps. But 0:03:56.640 --> 0:03:59.880 you know, I think I think in terms of that tournament, 0:04:01.080 --> 0:04:05.240 it's just a weird, weird kind of schedule. And it 0:04:05.280 --> 0:04:08.440 could be you know, I think meg Atkins was talking 0:04:08.440 --> 0:04:10.520 about writing something. I don't know if she'll write something. 0:04:10.800 --> 0:04:13.720 She might have written something by the time this podcasts out. 0:04:13.760 --> 0:04:17.000 But the break, the day break is awful. It's like, 0:04:17.120 --> 0:04:20.719 what type of tournament has a day break? 0:04:21.000 --> 0:04:24.200 So the one thing that's cool about it, and you know, 0:04:24.240 --> 0:04:26.599 the general schedule, I agree is a bit weird. But 0:04:26.720 --> 0:04:30.120 one thing that's cool about that Friday practice round is 0:04:30.160 --> 0:04:34.240 that the players who missed the cut on Thursday get 0:04:34.240 --> 0:04:36.599 to go play Augusta National, because that would just be 0:04:37.440 --> 0:04:42.120 watching them at Champions Retreat and seeing some players miss 0:04:42.200 --> 0:04:44.720 the cut in one of those huge like you know 0:04:44.800 --> 0:04:49.560 fifteen for two playoffs you know that happen on Thursday 0:04:49.720 --> 0:04:54.120 at the Annua and seeing players not get to go 0:04:54.279 --> 0:04:57.880 have that experience at Augusta National at all would be 0:04:58.080 --> 0:05:00.800 pretty sad, Like that would that would to the edge 0:05:00.800 --> 0:05:03.159 of like I don't know if I want to watch that, 0:05:03.320 --> 0:05:05.440 but the fact that they all get to go and 0:05:05.520 --> 0:05:09.920 have a great day at Augusta National, that's pretty cool. 0:05:10.800 --> 0:05:14.000 And also I want to I want to point out, 0:05:14.040 --> 0:05:16.560 like somebody might come to one of our events and say, 0:05:16.880 --> 0:05:19.800 this is a stupid format, and that's fine. This is 0:05:19.839 --> 0:05:24.040 just my opinion of theirs. It's their tournament, so not 0:05:24.120 --> 0:05:26.960 everybody's a fan of alt shot. Yeah, so this is 0:05:27.360 --> 0:05:29.520 this is their tournament, so they got to choose. But 0:05:29.760 --> 0:05:32.479 I think it I just I don't know. I think 0:05:32.480 --> 0:05:35.560 it's you could do the practice round before too, Like 0:05:35.600 --> 0:05:37.920 why don't you have the practice round before? Why don't 0:05:37.960 --> 0:05:40.320 you have practice round at championship if you're gonna do 0:05:40.360 --> 0:05:43.440 it the way you do it, have consecutive days of 0:05:43.440 --> 0:05:46.799 a tournament, though it doesn't make any sense, have a pause. 0:05:47.080 --> 0:05:48.760 It's yeah, it's unique. 0:05:49.240 --> 0:05:52.360 It's really silly, actually, like you get out of your 0:05:52.400 --> 0:05:55.440 cadence of the tournament's like you almost feeling you got it. 0:05:55.680 --> 0:05:56.680 I can only imagine. 0:05:56.680 --> 0:05:59.800 I don't know if you asked Amelia about this, but 0:06:00.320 --> 0:06:04.719 you know, like getting out of the tournament mode, going 0:06:04.760 --> 0:06:06.840 back into a practice ground and getting back in it's 0:06:06.880 --> 0:06:07.640 got to be weird. 0:06:07.800 --> 0:06:09.360 It's different. You never did. 0:06:09.520 --> 0:06:11.080 I didn't ask her that. I didn't want to put 0:06:11.080 --> 0:06:13.920 her in the position of having to say something negative 0:06:14.360 --> 0:06:18.360 about it, because clearly she's very grateful for the opportunity 0:06:18.360 --> 0:06:22.599 and is not going to say anything critical as she should. 0:06:22.720 --> 0:06:25.360 You know, you know, it's great, it's amazing they have 0:06:25.440 --> 0:06:30.720 this event. But just like anything the first edition, you know, 0:06:30.839 --> 0:06:34.240 to the tenth, there should be constant improvement with the event, 0:06:34.400 --> 0:06:36.839 and I think the format is one area where the 0:06:36.880 --> 0:06:38.240 event could be greatly improved. 0:06:38.320 --> 0:06:41.039 Yeah, I agree. All right, Well, so let's get to 0:06:41.520 --> 0:06:44.760 the real subject, and that is the latest changes at 0:06:44.839 --> 0:06:47.760 Augusta National which you have written about and which I 0:06:47.800 --> 0:06:50.800 think are worth discussing in a little more depth because 0:06:51.360 --> 0:06:55.680 they indicate a possible kind of new direction for the 0:06:55.839 --> 0:06:59.280 architecture at Augusta National, and so they're really interesting in 0:06:59.279 --> 0:07:02.080 that sense. There are the ones that have been announced, 0:07:02.600 --> 0:07:04.760 and then there are some ones that haven't really been 0:07:04.760 --> 0:07:08.040 announced but that you discussed in the article. I think 0:07:08.080 --> 0:07:11.880 that it may have been breaking news. I'm not exactly sure, 0:07:12.440 --> 0:07:15.880 but the ones that have been announced have been moving 0:07:15.960 --> 0:07:21.280 Te's back at holes eleven, fifteen, and eighteen, and then 0:07:21.320 --> 0:07:24.920 some larger changes at eleven, the par four that begins 0:07:24.960 --> 0:07:30.160 Amen corner, where trees along the right side of the 0:07:30.200 --> 0:07:33.440 hole have been removed. There are a few trees that remain, 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:37.160 but the hole has been widened quite a bit to 0:07:37.400 --> 0:07:41.360 that side, bringing it back a little bit to the 0:07:41.400 --> 0:07:45.040 hole that it was, not necessarily in nineteen thirty four, 0:07:45.760 --> 0:07:48.240 but more back to the hole that it was when 0:07:48.960 --> 0:07:52.440 like Tiger Woods was over there in nineteen ninety seven, 0:07:53.080 --> 0:07:55.720 you know, playing that shot from the right side of 0:07:55.760 --> 0:07:58.680 the fairway from about one hundred and fifty yards. I 0:07:58.720 --> 0:08:00.800 have that image of him on the right side of 0:08:00.800 --> 0:08:03.520 the fairway there where there were no trees. In recent 0:08:03.640 --> 0:08:06.920 years that area would have been covered in trees. So 0:08:07.520 --> 0:08:11.240 eleven has been changed quite a bit. And then fifteen 0:08:11.400 --> 0:08:13.440 is the other kind of big change where that hole 0:08:13.480 --> 0:08:16.400 has been lengthened. So maybe we should start off by 0:08:16.400 --> 0:08:19.560 talking about eleven. What are some of your impressions, Andy 0:08:19.640 --> 0:08:22.880 about the changes at that hole and how they're going 0:08:22.920 --> 0:08:25.440 to affect play strategically. 0:08:25.880 --> 0:08:29.280 Yeah, So, I mean, these are huge changes, and it's 0:08:29.280 --> 0:08:31.480 not all the way back to what it was, but 0:08:31.520 --> 0:08:34.680 it's a lot closer. And I think one of the 0:08:34.720 --> 0:08:39.520 big changes is that off the te players won't be 0:08:39.640 --> 0:08:43.000 playing to the poor angle. You want to be up 0:08:43.040 --> 0:08:46.240 the right side on that hole, and in the past 0:08:46.400 --> 0:08:50.400 recent years that side has been covered with trees, so 0:08:50.440 --> 0:08:52.800 there's going to be significantly less trees. They still have 0:08:52.880 --> 0:08:57.160 those like three trees there, but at least a side 0:08:57.520 --> 0:09:00.400 is open to where you feel like you can hit 0:09:00.440 --> 0:09:03.560 a shot. What happens when everybody plays left, which is 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:06.240 what the hole has been forcing everybody to do, is 0:09:06.280 --> 0:09:08.600 you're at a place where you have to play defense. 0:09:08.679 --> 0:09:11.000 And that's why you've seen so many shots over the 0:09:11.080 --> 0:09:15.040 years end up short right over there in that shipping area, 0:09:15.400 --> 0:09:17.959 and it's you know, you watch Jordan Speed's chip from 0:09:17.960 --> 0:09:20.120 there every year. I feel like that I just like 0:09:20.240 --> 0:09:24.520 have that etched in my brain. But it's mainly because 0:09:24.640 --> 0:09:26.920 from the position they are in, that's the smart shot 0:09:26.960 --> 0:09:29.319 is to just kind of hit it over there, because 0:09:29.360 --> 0:09:32.440 that taking it on from that spot is really, really 0:09:32.480 --> 0:09:36.320 a hard shot. So now with that right side opened, 0:09:36.640 --> 0:09:40.040 you're gonna be able to see some players actually make 0:09:40.080 --> 0:09:43.079 an attempt at hitting it close to the hole and 0:09:43.360 --> 0:09:46.439 what I think the interesting dynamic. And we'll see if 0:09:46.440 --> 0:09:49.319 the numbers bore this out. But I think you're gonna 0:09:49.320 --> 0:09:52.520 see more birdies this year, and that's great and people 0:09:52.559 --> 0:09:54.760 are gonna say, oh, you're making it easier. But with 0:09:54.880 --> 0:09:57.800 more birdies, I'm anticipating there's gonna be more balls to 0:09:57.800 --> 0:10:02.240 find the water, because the the thing that gets lost sometimes. 0:10:02.280 --> 0:10:06.000 I think you want golf courses to encourage aggressive play. 0:10:06.360 --> 0:10:08.680 If players are in a spot where they don't think 0:10:08.720 --> 0:10:11.120 it's a wise play to go at. 0:10:10.960 --> 0:10:12.960 Something, they are going to play conservative. 0:10:12.960 --> 0:10:15.280 They're very conservative, but you need to put them into 0:10:15.320 --> 0:10:19.560 opportunities for them to play aggressively and make mistakes. And 0:10:19.600 --> 0:10:21.360 that's one of the things that a lot of the 0:10:21.400 --> 0:10:24.200 rest of the course that Augusta does is that it 0:10:24.360 --> 0:10:27.439 forces you to play aggressive because you know how hard 0:10:27.800 --> 0:10:30.120 the two putt is if you don't hit it close 0:10:30.160 --> 0:10:33.520 to a pin. And on the eleventh it's become a 0:10:33.559 --> 0:10:36.240 hole where people are like, you know what, I'll take 0:10:36.280 --> 0:10:38.440 my chances trying to get up and down for four 0:10:38.880 --> 0:10:40.800 and if I walk away with five, it's not a 0:10:40.800 --> 0:10:44.040 big deal. But if you give the players the opportunity 0:10:44.080 --> 0:10:47.280 to look and say, oh, I can make a three, 0:10:47.520 --> 0:10:50.120 you're probably going to also get a lot more sixes 0:10:50.160 --> 0:10:54.080 and sevens, And that, to me makes a much more 0:10:54.120 --> 0:10:58.080 interesting golf course. And it's really what makes Augusta for 0:10:58.120 --> 0:11:02.000 the most part, so exciting. What makes twelve at Augusta 0:11:02.200 --> 0:11:06.520 such an iconic championship hole is that literally anything can 0:11:06.600 --> 0:11:07.120 happen there. 0:11:07.160 --> 0:11:09.040 A two is easily had. 0:11:09.160 --> 0:11:12.320 It's a wedge or a sevens easily had if you 0:11:12.440 --> 0:11:13.800 if you just hit a bad shot. 0:11:13.600 --> 0:11:16.360 And I you know, I think everybody remembers when that happened. 0:11:16.559 --> 0:11:19.920 So one of the other subtle changes that I've heard, 0:11:20.000 --> 0:11:21.800 I haven't seen it, and that's why I kind of 0:11:21.880 --> 0:11:24.840 left out of the article a little bit. You know, 0:11:24.880 --> 0:11:27.320 I didn't I wanted to kind of focus on stuff 0:11:27.320 --> 0:11:29.800 that you know was very easibly discernible. 0:11:30.200 --> 0:11:32.880 But I've heard that the chipping area on the right. 0:11:32.960 --> 0:11:36.439 Is is a couple of foot to a couple feet lower, 0:11:37.559 --> 0:11:41.640 which makes those mounds, those amazing mounds on that right 0:11:41.679 --> 0:11:44.120 side of the green, which is a really cool feature. 0:11:44.120 --> 0:11:44.720 And you see it. 0:11:45.080 --> 0:11:47.679 You see these green side mounds at Pasta Tiempo too. 0:11:48.080 --> 0:11:51.120 You see them at Jockey Club in Argentina. You see 0:11:51.320 --> 0:11:54.280 Mackenzie loved using these mounds. They he used them on 0:11:54.360 --> 0:11:57.520 eight at Augusta, you see him there. But on eleven, 0:11:57.960 --> 0:11:59.959 if you bail right, if it's a little bit low, 0:12:00.280 --> 0:12:02.760 those mounds become even more of a factor and it 0:12:02.800 --> 0:12:05.679 makes it even harder to keep the ball from running 0:12:05.720 --> 0:12:08.640 into that water because you're coming from lower. So it's 0:12:08.679 --> 0:12:12.760 gonna just incentivize people to not bail out this year, 0:12:13.040 --> 0:12:16.440 which I think is a really really great change, and 0:12:16.520 --> 0:12:20.040 it's them understanding the identity of the golf course and 0:12:20.080 --> 0:12:22.960 how the eleventh had turned into this hole that just 0:12:23.240 --> 0:12:26.199 it was It just didn't fit with the rest of 0:12:26.240 --> 0:12:27.040 the golf course. 0:12:27.640 --> 0:12:28.480 It was just hard. 0:12:28.640 --> 0:12:29.880 It's just one dimensional. 0:12:29.920 --> 0:12:33.160 It leaves like the reality is now seven is that 0:12:33.240 --> 0:12:36.280 hole where it kind of sticks out like a sore 0:12:36.400 --> 0:12:37.880 thumb in its current state. 0:12:38.240 --> 0:12:40.560 It's what eleven used to be. It's hit it here 0:12:40.880 --> 0:12:41.280 or else. 0:12:42.040 --> 0:12:45.520 Yeah. Well, okay, so seven is a part four pretty 0:12:45.559 --> 0:12:48.920 much straight away, and the trees are really close on 0:12:49.000 --> 0:12:52.120 both sides, and the whole thing is just like hit 0:12:52.160 --> 0:12:55.040 it between the trees. You know, if you're between the trees, 0:12:55.040 --> 0:12:57.840 are fine. The bunker. The green is surrounded by bunkers, 0:12:58.440 --> 0:13:00.960 not necessarily any preference for one side of the fairway 0:13:01.040 --> 0:13:02.960 or the other. You just got to get in the 0:13:02.960 --> 0:13:04.920 fairway and then you can have a nice approach in 0:13:05.000 --> 0:13:08.480 there to the green. So you know, going back to eleven, 0:13:09.600 --> 0:13:12.400 I remember this interpretation from an article of years a 0:13:12.440 --> 0:13:15.600 couple of years ago. But it seems like what the 0:13:15.679 --> 0:13:18.160 club did with that hole is what it did with 0:13:18.200 --> 0:13:20.400 a lot of different holes at the course, and that 0:13:20.559 --> 0:13:23.640 is to trade birdies and double bogies. 0:13:23.640 --> 0:13:25.000 They wanted to make them harder. 0:13:25.400 --> 0:13:28.680 They wanted the scoring average to be higher, and I 0:13:28.720 --> 0:13:32.360 think that that's a useful distinction between making something harder 0:13:32.760 --> 0:13:35.720 and making the scoring average higher. Just because the scoring 0:13:35.760 --> 0:13:39.440 average is higher doesn't necessarily mean it's more challenging. It 0:13:39.600 --> 0:13:42.440 just means that the range of scores. Sometimes the range 0:13:42.440 --> 0:13:45.240 of scores is really shrunk, and I think that the 0:13:45.600 --> 0:13:47.640 scoring range. I'm not sure if the stats bear this 0:13:47.679 --> 0:13:50.080 out necessarily, but what it seems like they did was 0:13:50.080 --> 0:13:54.680 that they traded birdies and doubles for pars and bogies 0:13:54.920 --> 0:13:57.640 and just you know, more bogies, and so the scoring 0:13:57.640 --> 0:14:00.600 average was higher, but the hole became less dynamic. 0:14:00.760 --> 0:14:03.400 Yeah, And I think the thing that you see across 0:14:03.520 --> 0:14:06.600 other holes that they didn't narrow, you know that they 0:14:06.720 --> 0:14:11.520 just lengthened. The lengthening kept that score distribution pretty consistent 0:14:11.600 --> 0:14:18.280 where and when I say score distribution, I mean eagles, birdies, pars, bogies, doubles, triples. 0:14:19.040 --> 0:14:22.440 If you just lengthen it keeps it retains that balance. 0:14:23.120 --> 0:14:25.760 But when you narrow and lengthen what it does is 0:14:25.800 --> 0:14:29.120 it it just shrinks the possible outcomes. And I think 0:14:29.160 --> 0:14:32.680 this is it. I think the distinction that you hit 0:14:32.720 --> 0:14:36.640 on is everybody thinks, oh, we need to make the 0:14:36.640 --> 0:14:40.400 golf course harder, And I think the important thing is 0:14:40.560 --> 0:14:44.560 you should want to make the golf course challenging. And 0:14:44.960 --> 0:14:48.240 a whole like eleven, where you have this preferred line up, 0:14:48.280 --> 0:14:51.160 the right or bad line up, the left, and if 0:14:51.200 --> 0:14:53.520 you don't get it on the preferred line, then you're 0:14:53.560 --> 0:14:56.120 in a spot where you can't really attack in the 0:14:56.320 --> 0:14:58.400 In the spot you have to put it in is 0:14:58.800 --> 0:15:01.840 very undesirable. But if you play up the right and 0:15:01.880 --> 0:15:06.200 you have the opportunity to attack, that's more challenging. That's 0:15:06.520 --> 0:15:09.840 you know, that's more of a game of chess. Right, Okay, 0:15:10.440 --> 0:15:12.520 I did this, but I didn't get it to where 0:15:12.520 --> 0:15:15.360 I wanted. I didn't execute my shot. So I'm over 0:15:15.400 --> 0:15:17.960 here on the left, and now I have to figure 0:15:17.960 --> 0:15:20.120 out I either have to take those water on now 0:15:20.200 --> 0:15:21.920 or I'm going to take it on on the next shot, 0:15:22.560 --> 0:15:25.320 you know, Versus if I play up the right, I've 0:15:25.320 --> 0:15:28.960 got a really good shot, I've got helping contours with 0:15:29.080 --> 0:15:33.240 that hill, and I could feasibly hit a shot in 0:15:33.320 --> 0:15:36.880 here that goes close without taking on too much risk 0:15:37.080 --> 0:15:37.600 of the water. 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:42.240 And just imagine you're a player in contention on the 0:15:42.320 --> 0:15:44.960 last day of the Masters. What kind of hole would 0:15:45.000 --> 0:15:48.920 you rather face? A hole where you can fairly easily 0:15:49.200 --> 0:15:52.600 be assured of either a par or a bogie, or 0:15:52.640 --> 0:15:55.080 a hole where you could make a birdie but you 0:15:55.200 --> 0:15:58.320 might make a really big number and have a disaster 0:15:58.440 --> 0:16:01.200 that can eject you from the tournament. I think pretty 0:16:01.240 --> 0:16:03.880 much every time somebody would say, yeah, give me that 0:16:03.920 --> 0:16:05.920 hole where I might make a bogie, but I'm not 0:16:06.000 --> 0:16:09.320 necessarily gonna do that much worse than that versus the 0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:11.560 hole where you know there's a real opportunity and you 0:16:11.560 --> 0:16:15.520 feel obligated to go for that opportunity. But if you 0:16:15.560 --> 0:16:17.560 go for too much, then then you might make that 0:16:17.600 --> 0:16:20.360 big number. Yeah, that's a big part of what makes 0:16:20.360 --> 0:16:23.280 such a compelling tournament golf hole. And it's also something 0:16:23.320 --> 0:16:25.920 that is challenging, Right, even if you don't make a 0:16:25.920 --> 0:16:27.800 big score, even if you birdie the hole, even if 0:16:27.840 --> 0:16:30.880 most of the field birdies the hole, if that possibility 0:16:30.960 --> 0:16:34.480 looms of a catastrophe, I think that makes the whole challenging. 0:16:34.720 --> 0:16:37.320 Yeah, and I think if you think about the entire 0:16:37.600 --> 0:16:40.160 golf course, especially if we just go down to the 0:16:40.200 --> 0:16:44.960 back nine, you know, ten birdies possible, a bogies possible. 0:16:45.120 --> 0:16:47.480 It's you know, you don't see a lot of doubles. 0:16:47.160 --> 0:16:48.560 There, right, you have tens of tough hole. 0:16:48.600 --> 0:16:50.880 Two shot, there's a lot of two shot swing. There's 0:16:51.040 --> 0:16:54.000 potential for two shot swing. Eleven had become this hole 0:16:54.040 --> 0:16:55.920 where it was mostly just parers and bogies. 0:16:56.000 --> 0:16:57.760 There were very rarely birdies. 0:16:58.120 --> 0:17:00.280 So this it was just this hole that would like 0:17:00.360 --> 0:17:04.640 kind of like a the rare small distribution hole. Then 0:17:04.680 --> 0:17:09.600 you go to twelve, where literally anything's possible. Thirteen you've got, 0:17:09.760 --> 0:17:13.000 you know, really possible ranges of three to six. 0:17:13.440 --> 0:17:14.719 You know, three to seven. 0:17:15.240 --> 0:17:19.360 Fourteen is a three to five hole, right, fifteen you've 0:17:19.359 --> 0:17:22.600 got three to thirteen. You know, we've seen the same 0:17:22.640 --> 0:17:25.040 guys one year make a three, make a thirteen the 0:17:25.080 --> 0:17:28.399 next hole next year, but that one has a huge range. 0:17:28.760 --> 0:17:32.320 Sixteen has a huge range, and then seventeen to eighteen 0:17:32.440 --> 0:17:34.680 kind of like throttle down and back to that three 0:17:34.720 --> 0:17:38.240 to five range on both of those holes where it's 0:17:38.280 --> 0:17:40.400 kind of hard to make a big mess. But eleven 0:17:40.520 --> 0:17:42.199 was the one that kind of stuck out as like 0:17:42.440 --> 0:17:44.600 you kind of got lucky if you made a birdie, 0:17:45.080 --> 0:17:47.040 and it was the one hole that didn't really fit 0:17:47.119 --> 0:17:49.880 with the rest. 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And so I wonder if if 0:19:28.440 --> 0:19:32.679 Agusta National kind of continues along this path of you know, 0:19:32.760 --> 0:19:37.040 expanding short grass areas and making certain holes wider, I 0:19:37.160 --> 0:19:40.680 wonder if some reversal of course at thirteen is possible. 0:19:41.440 --> 0:19:44.520 I mean, it's super easy to figure out what holes are. 0:19:44.560 --> 0:19:46.760 The ones is like, you just look for the ones 0:19:46.800 --> 0:19:48.879 with the new trees, and thirteen to one with the 0:19:48.920 --> 0:19:52.800 new trees, they look kind of thirteen seventeen seven. Ye, 0:19:52.920 --> 0:19:55.679 they look you know, they look out of place. I 0:19:55.720 --> 0:19:58.440 think this is one of the things everybody marvels at 0:19:58.440 --> 0:20:02.440 the presentation of Augusta Nashell. But you go to thirteen 0:20:02.520 --> 0:20:05.679 and those trees look just silly. There's dead trees in 0:20:05.720 --> 0:20:09.479 this really thick grove of trees over there, and it's 0:20:09.640 --> 0:20:12.560 just you know, they're young, and it just doesn't look 0:20:12.680 --> 0:20:16.000 right compared because the way they transition out of it too, 0:20:16.040 --> 0:20:18.800 it gets really wide in the lay up area, and 0:20:18.840 --> 0:20:22.160 it's like, well, this wasn't supposed to be this way, 0:20:22.280 --> 0:20:25.560 but I think they might be taken on a couple 0:20:25.600 --> 0:20:27.479 of these a year, if I had to guess, you know, 0:20:27.800 --> 0:20:30.760 they did a few. And this is the way a 0:20:30.800 --> 0:20:33.360 lot of clubs go about making changes, and I think 0:20:33.359 --> 0:20:35.760 it's a smart way for them to go about making changes, 0:20:35.920 --> 0:20:38.359