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Speaker 3: DP show Seaton update the poll results and what are

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Speaker 3: we going with in the final hour of the program.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we have up there right now. Which wins more games,

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Speaker 4: gut feelings or analytics? Gut feeling running away with that

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Speaker 4: one still well over seventy percent. And which would NFL

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Speaker 4: fans prefer in the new coach of their team, the

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Speaker 4: hot young assistant or the older established coach. Hot young

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Speaker 4: assistants dominating okay, of course, and do we have a

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Speaker 4: poll question for the final hour. We have a couple

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Speaker 4: of here from Todd that are very funny, but one

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Speaker 4: of them was, and I'm not sure what kind of

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Speaker 4: commentary he's making here, but how often do you think

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Speaker 4: a sporting event is fixed?

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Speaker 5: What?

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Speaker 2: Very often?

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Speaker 4: Every once in a while or never?

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Speaker 2: When is the last time you thought something was fixed?

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Speaker 6: Not very recently.

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Speaker 7: I was more having fun with that poster of showing

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Speaker 7: the two quarterbacks that just happened to make in the

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Speaker 7: Super Bowl. The coincidence of this NFL post that everybody's

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Speaker 7: in the whole world is talking about, how do they

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Speaker 7: have their two quarterbacks playing in the Super Bowl? Right

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Speaker 7: at the very front of this NFL posted next to

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Speaker 7: the Lombardi Trophy.

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Speaker 3: So people would be willing to go to jails what

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Speaker 3: you're saying, Sure it's topping before to fix a game.

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Speaker 7: There's currently things going on right now in the news

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Speaker 7: with the allegations and point shaving and all.

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Speaker 5: Kinds of stuff.

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Speaker 7: Okay, I would have I would go every once in

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Speaker 7: a while.

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Speaker 5: I won't say never, but i'll say everyone at.

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Speaker 2: We've been talking analytics.

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Speaker 3: We've been talking analytics since the Denver Broncos fourth and

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Speaker 3: one call, those who were all in on going forward

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Speaker 3: at fourth and one and those who thought he should

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Speaker 3: kick the field goal in that situation. Sam Schwarzstein does

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Speaker 3: this for a living Amazon Prime, the football analytics expert there.

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Speaker 3: When did analytics become a bad word here in sports?

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Speaker 6: I don't know. For me, it's always been a good word.

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Speaker 8: When I was playing at Stanford, we used it a

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Speaker 8: ton on decision making, mostly from a team tendency point

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Speaker 8: of view. But I think what happened when early two

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Speaker 8: thousands when teams started changing how they approached the decision

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Speaker 8: making process, and we're using what has been popularized from

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Speaker 8: the hitting game of football, which is a based off

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Speaker 8: of a lot of the hitting game of baseball, where

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Speaker 8: we're able to find that field position can contribute a

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Speaker 8: lot to what you're likely to do next or predict

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Speaker 8: out the future scenarios and how much harder it is

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Speaker 8: to play from inside your own five. And you know,

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Speaker 8: with the dawna football three points two field goal possessions

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Speaker 8: and that changing a lot of how we can approach

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Speaker 8: the math of a game. I think probably the early

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Speaker 8: it's gonna cause some friction.

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Speaker 6: There.

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Speaker 3: Just feels like if we said probability, people wouldn't have

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Speaker 3: as much of a problem as analytics sounds like I'm

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Speaker 2: I don't know. We don't recoil when we hear probability.

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Speaker 8: You're hitting the nail on the head. And a large

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Speaker 8: part of the decision making process in analytics, as you say,

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Speaker 8: is the conversion probability, right, and that fourth and one

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Speaker 8: math based on the play call. I think that's what's

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Speaker 8: hard when you have these public models like the Next

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Speaker 6: We're never going to have.

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Speaker 8: All the information that the team has, but what these

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Speaker 8: models can do is help inform how should you game plan?

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Speaker 8: When I used to consult with teams, I would say,

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Speaker 8: just like you have a third down period, you should

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Speaker 8: start thinking about having a fourth down period and new

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Speaker 8: play designs, things like the Tush push come out of it.

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Speaker 8: At Stanford we had a ninety five percent conversion rate

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Speaker 6: We call it sixty four lead dive.

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Speaker 8: When we're running behind David DeCastro and handing the ball

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Speaker 8: and you need to focus on mostly, Hey, here's a

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Speaker 8: guiding principle on how you should approach forth down. But

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Speaker 8: the conversion probably is so important. And what I would

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Speaker 8: consult with teams is all about it's conversion probably is

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Speaker 8: not real, It's what's happened before in the similar situations.

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Speaker 8: It's how confident are you in your play call in

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm trying to understand this Sam, that the

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Speaker 3: game is fluid. It's can I upgrade my analytics during

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Speaker 3: a game that's going to factor in Their defensive line

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Speaker 3: the weather is coming in. You already are factoring in

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Speaker 2: But how do you upgrade during a game.

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Speaker 8: That's a big part of what teams do. So the

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Speaker 8: teams will you'll often hear people go go buy the book. Well,

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Speaker 8: they actually print out a book based on what they

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Speaker 8: think the game will be like and what scenario they're

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Speaker 8: if we get to fourth and two or less here,

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Speaker 6: So what you know to do on fourth down.

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Speaker 8: And so what happens with the update is if you've

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Speaker 8: on what you're doing on fourth and four, that might

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Speaker 8: and ultimately in these fourth ones, and you're gonna get

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Speaker 8: models telling you to go for it. You really need

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Speaker 8: to have the QB sneak involved because that changes the

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Speaker 8: math so much that if you QB sneak on fourth

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Speaker 8: if you run the ball, it's still around a fifty

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Speaker 6: It might change our decision making.

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Speaker 3: But if I have analytics and you have analytics, chances

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Speaker 3: are they're gonna sync up. I know what you're doing

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Speaker 3: and you know what I'm doing. Don't they cancel each

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Speaker 8: No, because of how valuable field position is, and it's

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Speaker 8: why we're seeing lower scoring games, shorter games, and fewer drives.

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Speaker 8: When I did the rule book at the XFL, it

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Speaker 8: down to eleven drives per game. That might have seen

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Speaker 8: we're having longer drives and you're starting in.

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Speaker 6: Different field position spots.

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Speaker 8: You know, as good as the dynamic kickoff is helping

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Speaker 8: teams start closer, failed fourth down conversion inside the five,

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Speaker 8: you don't see those points on the scoreboard, but when

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Speaker 8: you're likely to get the ball back in scoring position.

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Speaker 8: And that's what's going through the mind of Sean Payton,

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Speaker 6: Back on my own forty, which is a great spot

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's fair. What would you have done in the moment?

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Speaker 3: What did you say in the moment on the fourth

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Speaker 6: Well, I was on a plane to London. That's where

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Speaker 8: We started our innovation process, so I was on game cast,

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Speaker 8: couldn't get the game streaming, but I probably go forth there.

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Speaker 8: It depends on the game plan. Jared Stidham.

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Speaker 6: They felt confident his running ability.

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Speaker 2: I hate that call, though, Sam I hate it too.

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Speaker 8: I would rather him have his own read or something.

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Speaker 8: But to me, I'm basing a lot of my fourth

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Speaker 8: want to have it. It's why I love the teams

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Speaker 8: And when one of the beautiful things about next Gen

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Speaker 8: on TV, you're just going to see it says fourth

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Speaker 8: one point four yards. So because we're in that little

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Speaker 8: it's not an integer. It's not a solid number on

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Speaker 8: every time to go for it. That's probably why they

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Speaker 8: wanted to call a bootleg. But I also don't like

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Speaker 8: the call. When I would do the rules of the XFL,

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Speaker 8: I never would tell the coaches what play to call

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Speaker 8: because that's not my expertise. Right I have certain things

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Speaker 8: I like to do, but I'm not a play caller

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Speaker 8: or play a designer, and so I'm gonna lean on

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Speaker 8: Sean Payton for what he wants to do. But he

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Speaker 8: probably doesn't love the call either right now.

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Speaker 3: No, I don't think he does gut feeling over analytics.

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Speaker 3: How do you balance that?

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Speaker 8: I from my point of view, I lean heavily on

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Speaker 8: the analytics, and that drives my gut feeling. If you

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Speaker 2: But Notre Dame busted you.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Notre Dames. I remember being on the team plane

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Speaker 6: Ford, we go fix it.

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Speaker 8: And Sean Hockeley made sure to yell, I mean every

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Speaker 3: Great stuff, Sam, Safe travels and hopefully we'll cross paths

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Speaker 5: All right?

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Speaker 3: Sam Schwarzstein, Thursday Night Football Analytics Expert.

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Speaker 2: That's good.

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Speaker 3: Hopefully it gave you a little more definition, a little

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Speaker 3: I still go back to what you know and what

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Speaker 10: I think we are previewing and highlighting Sunday Night basketball

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Speaker 10: Starting this Sunday, the Lakers versus the Knicks.

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Speaker 5: In my second home.

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Speaker 2: Is everybody going to be available to play in that game?

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Speaker 6: Well?

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Speaker 5: I hope so?

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Speaker 5: Do you think what you mean? Because something blockbuster might.

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Speaker 3: I just want to make sure all hands, like, I

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Speaker 10: It's not unfortunate, But isn't it sad? Isn't it said

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Speaker 10: who's going to be playing? Is everyone going to be available?

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Speaker 10: You just didn't think about those things back in the day,

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Speaker 10: Games and five nights, the availabilities of some stars, I

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Speaker 10: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Look, I've been kind of scratching my head.

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Speaker 10: But look, there seems to be riding down the wall.

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Speaker 5: Again, we don't know. This is all talk.

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Speaker 10: This is all people just throwing out ideas and you know,

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Speaker 5: And so forth. But we know he won't be playing tonight.

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Speaker 10: What we do believe because Joelle and Paul George didn't

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Speaker 5: At the end of three. I believe we will have

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Speaker 5: Six seven, and then it just kind of took off from.

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Speaker 5: Funny question. Hall of Fame coach.

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Speaker 10: Arguably one of the best coaches I ever played for

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Speaker 5: He used to look at me crazy when I was.

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Speaker 3: had a small lineup and he shot the three. And

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Speaker 3: then I go back to Paul west Head at Loyla Marymount.

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Speaker 3: They were going to run you and they'll give you

448
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Speaker 3: your two, but they're gonna come down and shoot the three.

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00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:31,760
Speaker 3: Like these are two legendary moments coaching moments in history

450
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Speaker 3: and how they've affected the game.

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Speaker 5: I think we also have to throw Don Nelson in

452
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Speaker 5: there as well. Run TMC.

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Speaker 10: They were kind of ahead of their schedule with Chris

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Speaker 10: mal and Mitch Richmond, Tim Hardaway, Sharunas Marcelonis.

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Speaker 3: And also he didn't have to have a big man either.

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Speaker 3: He was the first coach who said, I don't need

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Speaker 3: to have six' eleven seven. Footer my center can be

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Speaker 3: six to.

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Speaker 10: Seven and they played small and they tried to run

460
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Speaker 10: you off the, court they tried to outscore, you and they.

461
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Speaker 10: DIDN'T i, mean they had some, success but not a great.

462
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Speaker 10: Success AND i don't think that really caught on in the.

463
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Speaker 10: Nineties but boy has to come full circle now when

464
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Speaker 10: you look back at Those nelly teams and how they

465
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Speaker 10: performed and think about the Success you know those teams

466
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Speaker 10: had back in The Bay area as well when they

467
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Speaker 10: upset that When dallas was the number one seed With

468
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Speaker 10: dirk and all, that and you Had Baron, Davis Stephen,

469
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Speaker 10: Jackson Matty, barnes those teams came full.

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Speaker 3: Circle Reggie miller on the call tonight at eight. Eastern

471
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Speaker 3: it'll be The bucks visiting the seventies six, Ers mac.

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Speaker 3: McClung no slam dunk. Contest why no four pt?

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Speaker 5: Right that would be a four?

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Speaker 2: Peak what is holding up his? Schedule maybe he turned it.

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Speaker 3: Down, Well i'd get a guess that he, did BUT

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Speaker 3: i mean that's what you're known.

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Speaker 5: For three time. Winner he was looking for a four. Pete,

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Speaker 5: yeah maybe he turned it.

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Speaker 10: Down, look there's only so many dunks a human being

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Speaker 10: can possibly. Do AND i give him credit because he's

481
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Speaker 10: saved the dunk contest the last few. Years and if

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Speaker 10: you're not gonna have big, names thank, God. Matt he

483
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Speaker 10: brought the, funk as we call, it because he saved

484
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Speaker 10: the dunk. Contest but, again you AND i have been

485
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Speaker 10: down this. ROAD i think the three point competition has

486
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Speaker 10: surpassed him BECAUSE i mean everyone's counting in the, arena

487
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Speaker 10: you just don't. Know in the dunk, contest if a

488
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Speaker 10: guy's gonna make a, dunk how many attempts he, Gets

489
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Speaker 10: the luster comes off when he misses his first. Dunk

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Speaker 10: at least in the three point, competition it's make or,

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Speaker 10: miss and you know the.

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Speaker 3: Number why can't we do The and we've discussed this

493
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Speaker 3: that we have the old and the new in a

494
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Speaker 3: three point shooting contest where you Have Del curry And Steph.

495
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 3: Curry you, know you could be there With Klay, thompson

496
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Speaker 3: are you And halliburton if he was. Healthy BUT i,

497
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Speaker 3: mean it'd be kind of fun to embrace the past

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Speaker 3: and the president in a three point shooting.

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Speaker 5: CONTEST i would be on board with. That.

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Speaker 10: THAT i, mean obviously us old timers would have to

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Speaker 10: have some type of, handicap.

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Speaker 5: But let the current day, players you, know do the bigger.

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Speaker 10: Role BUT i would be on board with that because

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Speaker 10: the last thing to ever, leave because you could get

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Speaker 10: Are Craig hodges who can still, Shoot pejarstoyakovich who can still,

506
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Speaker 10: Shoot Mark price who can still, shoot The Steve kirr

507
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,439
Speaker 10: can still. SHOOT i, mean it would be cool to

508
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 10: kind of see some of these old timers and you

509
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Speaker 10: pair them with the modern day three point gun.

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Speaker 3: Slingers BUT i give you one rack reg like the

511
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Speaker 3: old guys only have to do one. Rack so you

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Speaker 3: get to pick your. Spot you, Know hodgs will be

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Speaker 3: at the top of the. Key you might be in the,

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Speaker 3: Corner Steve kerr at the top of the, Key paysia

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Speaker 3: on the, wing.

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Speaker 2: And you you just stand by Your we just do one.

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Speaker 5: Rock you don't even have to. Move, No, oh, man

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Speaker 5: sign me. Up what do you? Think, oh sign me?

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Speaker 5: UP i would do that in a.

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Speaker 3: Heartbeat, yes, Yes Derrick rose got his jersey.

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Speaker 2: Retired uh is he going to The hall Of?

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Speaker 10: FAME i would be Surprised if he. Doesn't he will

523
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Speaker 10: be the ONLY mvp not to be in The hall Of.

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Speaker 2: Fame, man if he didn't give me.

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Speaker 10: A first, BALLOT i doubt he'll be first. Ballot but

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Speaker 10: he'll get in at some. Point but for a six

527
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Speaker 10: to eight year stretch he was him And lebron were

528
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Speaker 10: battling for who was the best player in the game

529
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Speaker 10: and the YOUNGEST. MVP i would be. Surprise at some

530
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Speaker 10: point he's going to get. In all the MVPs get.

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Speaker 2: In, man he was a.

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Speaker 5: Thing, Hey i've said this on numerous.

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Speaker 10: Occasions WHEN i first started on this side of the

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Speaker 10: aisle and calling, GAMES i would. PAY i WOULD i

535
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Speaker 10: would have paid to watch him. Play he was so.

536
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Speaker 10: Electrifying and his demeanor because he wasn't one of those

537
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 10: cocky kind of, guys but he exuded confidence and it

538
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 10: just permeated because he you, know he let the other

539
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Speaker 10: guys Because Joe King noah was the guy who was

540
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Speaker 10: like cocky and, flash he doing all the, talking And

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Speaker 10: loue All dan was you, know, quiet.

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Speaker 5: Kind of like D.

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Speaker 10: Rose Coach thibbs just had those. Guys oh, MAN i

544
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Speaker 10: would have paid money to Watch Derrick.

545
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Speaker 5: Rose, see he was that.

546
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Speaker 2: Electrified but and it's weird to say this.

547
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 3: That he may mean more To chicago because he was

548
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 3: local Than Michael. Jordan Like jordan gave you the, titles

549
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 3: gave me all of, that But Derek rose local one

550
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:16,199
Speaker 3: of your own in becoming A LEAGUE, mvp and you,

551
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:17,360
Speaker 3: know A hall Of famer.

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00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 5: Born In bred at some.

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00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:24,439
Speaker 10: Point that's Why lebron was so loved and then became

554
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 10: so hated because he was born In bred In, ohio

555
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:34,399
Speaker 10: play high school and was obviously drafted by them and

556
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 10: then they felt betrayal when you know he left and

557
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 10: took his talents To South, beach but made up for

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00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 10: it by.

559
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 5: Coming back and winning.

560
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 10: Them you, know they're only, championships so you're right when

561
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 10: in terms of pecking, order, Yes Michael, jordan he has

562
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:55,439
Speaker 10: all the, accolades. Fantastic but to, me the two PEOPLE

563
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 10: i will always think about In chicago number One Derrick

564
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 10: Rose Isaiah thomas. TOO i, mean when you think Of

565
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 10: chicago basketball a lot of.

566
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 5: Times his name doesn't get.

567
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Speaker 10: Mentioned isaiah needs to be mentioned as one of the

568
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 10: Great chicago athletes of all.

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Speaker 3: Time are The lakers a? Threat, like what's the threat

570
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 3: level for them right? Now without making any?

571
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 10: Moves, WELL i think everyone's holding their cards right now

572
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:28,879
Speaker 10: because they want to see what's going to happen With

573
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 10: giannis and what's going to happen With Jah moran and

574
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 10: some of These Anthony. Davis you, know these are names

575
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 10: that everyone assumes are going to be. Traded SO i

576
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 10: think The lakers are kind of keeping their cards close

577
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Speaker 10: to the.

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Speaker 5: Vests are the a?

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Speaker 10: THREAT i, mean When luca's going to be put up

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Speaker 10: forty six a, Night, yeah they'll always have a puncher's

581
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 10: chance if this was a heavyweight. Fight, yes they will

582
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 10: always have a puncher's chance because of this playmaking and

583
00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 10: the scoring Of luca and having one of the all

584
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 10: time greats In lebron on your.

585
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 5: Team so there's your puncher.

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00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 10: Chance the problem is when you get locked into a,

587
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 10: series things start to get taken away and things.

588
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 5: Start to get. Exposed that's where they're going to run into.

589
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 3: Problems you, Know Rich paul doining his podcast With Max

590
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 3: kellerman and then, Says, hey If i'm running The, LAKERS

591
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 3: i Trade Austin reeves AND i try to Get Jaron Jackson.

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00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 3: Jr you can't say that without us reading Into you

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Speaker 3: have to have had this conversation with your Client Lebron james.

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Speaker 10: Correct, yes, Yeah AND i, Look lebron has come out

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Speaker 10: and said all the right things that he doesn't speak for,

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00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 10: me and that's his he's saying all the right.

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Speaker 5: Things but, look they're. Boys that's my. Agent we've. Had,

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00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 5: yes they've had this conversation.

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Speaker 10: Before but if You're Rich, paul you can't do it

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Speaker 10: because NOW i, look If i'm ar And i'm looking at,

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Speaker 10: It i'm looking at, like, really this is how this

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Speaker 10: is how you think of, me you, know, So i'm

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Speaker 10: sure he's taking this time coming back, too having known

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Speaker 10: whether he said NOW i know he's supposed to play

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00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 10: on This, uh hopefully he'll play in That sunday Night

606
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 10: Sunday night. Game that would be great for him to

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Speaker 10: make his. Debut but if you're, Rich, paul you can't do.

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Speaker 5: It you can't say That.

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Speaker 2: Nick's gonna Trade Karl Anthony.

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Speaker 5: TOWNS i don't think.

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Speaker 2: So would you trade him depends.

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Speaker 5: On What i'm getting.

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Speaker 10: BACK i wouldn't because the way the game is played,

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Speaker 10: today you've got to have bigs that stretched the, floor

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Speaker 10: check rebound, check he averages a double. Double he's just

616
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Speaker 10: got him And Mike, Brown Jalen. Brunson they've got to

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Speaker 10: figure this. Out and this is no fault TO. Jb,

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Speaker 10: brunson BUT i think he asked he's gonna probably have

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Speaker 10: to bring help bring catalong here because it's just to

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Speaker 10: night and day from what we saw just a year,

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Speaker 10: ago twenty four and Thirteen ALL Nba All star and

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Speaker 10: then just the struggles he's having this year is just

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Speaker 10: is mind. Blowing AND i Think brunson is going to

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Speaker 10: have to help ring him.

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Speaker 13: That math doesn't. Work math has never made a. Tackle

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Speaker 13: math has never blocked. Anybody math has never done any

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Speaker 13: of that.

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Speaker 3: Stuff yeah That's Mark, schlereth who retired in two thousand.

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Speaker 2: Games changed an awful.

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Speaker 3: Lot and if you change the word to, PROBABILITY i

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Speaker 3: don't think people would have anywhere near the. Problem you,

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Speaker 3: know the old school, People Mark, Schlareth Michael, wilbon they hear,

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Speaker 3: analytics they, think, oh those aren't sports.

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Speaker 5: Guys it's.

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Speaker 3: Okay there are a lot of coaches managers who weren't

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Speaker 3: good at good, athletes good enough athletes to play in

673
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Speaker 3: THE nba or baseball or, football but they're smart people

674
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Speaker 3: and when you get to that, level it certainly helps being.

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Speaker 2: Smart.

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Speaker 3: Uh richard In. Tucson Hey, Richard.

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Speaker 12: Hey, dan thanks for taking my. Call you, Know i've

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Speaker 12: been listening to analytics for a long time And I've

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00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 12: i've never heard it frame this. WAY i see analytics

680
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 12: as simply a tool in the, toolbox and all craftsmen

681
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:11,800
Speaker 12: have basically the same. Tools but it's the master craftsman

682
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 12: that knows what tool to, use when to use, it

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Speaker 12: and how to use. It and that's, that to, me

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00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 12: is where it all boils down.

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Speaker 5: To thank.

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Speaker 3: You that's simplifying. It, Richard thank. You let's See dane In. Texas,

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Speaker 3: dane thanks for holding what's on your?

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Speaker 14: Mind, hey good Morning. Dan i've got two victories for

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00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 14: a gut feeling the beat, analytics and they're beautiful. Examples

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Speaker 14: plus one game that you AND i both know was. Fixed.

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Speaker 14: Okay the victory of the gut feeling starts with a

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00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 14: game of, chess and that Was game six of The

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Speaker 14: World championship Against fisher And. Spassky, apparently In game, Six

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Speaker 14: fisher used an unorthodox move called The english, opening and

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Speaker 14: he knew That spaski's team would not have rehearsed a

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Speaker 14: response to, that so by going you, know contradictory or

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Speaker 14: maybe more against the. Grain, yeah he Beat. Spaski and then,

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Speaker 14: oh and then the rumble in the. Jungle remember when

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Speaker 14: All lee went on the.

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Speaker 6: Ropes he rope it.

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Speaker 14: Round, oh we thought we were watching it on closed,

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Speaker 14: circuit my, dad and we thought he was. Dead and

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00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 14: then right around round, five my dad, said, nah he tricked.

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Speaker 3: HIM i thought that they were going to stop the.

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Speaker 3: FIGHT i thought That alli was taking that much of

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Speaker 3: a punishment that you, know he was getting, brutal.

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Speaker 2: BRUTALIZED i thought they were going to stop the. Fight

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Speaker 2: but what else do you have to?

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Speaker 5: Say?

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Speaker 2: Game, oh and.

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Speaker 14: This remember you'll remember this. Game and this is one

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Speaker 14: game THAT i. CRIED i was so. Frustrated the nineteen

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Speaker 14: seventy Two Olympic, games the gold medal basketball game The

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Speaker 14: United states And. Russia those they fixed that.

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Speaker 5: Game that was.

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Speaker 3: Fixed, well they kept trying to fix the outcome because

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Speaker 3: they would be like they were giving The Soviet union

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Speaker 3: like three, tries and they eventually scored to win the

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Speaker 3: gold medal what a. Shame and, uh you, KNOW i

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Speaker 3: applaud THE us team that SAID i don't want that

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Speaker 3: silver because we earned the.

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Speaker 2: Gold we don't want that silver.

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Speaker 14: Medal.

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Speaker 3: Uh let's see surge In. Oregon, hey what's, Up?

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00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 2: Dan and that's that.

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00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:24,760
Speaker 6: Surgeon.

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Speaker 4: Bro, Hey, dan the other DAY i heard you going

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Speaker 4: along a little rant about The raiders should have Taken.

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Speaker 14: Mendoza, Wow, Bro LIKE i think everybody a reader nation

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Speaker 14: just got off their.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no hold.

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Speaker 3: ON i would consider all. Options, okay it that's WHAT i.

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Speaker 3: Said you need more than just having a franchise, quarterback

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Speaker 3: and you don't have the. Infrastructure there can be death

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00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,280
Speaker 3: for a young. Quarterback SO i, said what if somebody's

736
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 3: gonna blow you, away if you're The, raiders would you consider?

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Speaker 2: That AND i would.

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Speaker 3: ABSOLUTELY i don't want to draft a quarterback and then

739
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Speaker 3: build my own offensive. LINE i want to build my

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00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 3: offensive line and then try to get my. Quarterback so

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Speaker 3: that's that's WHAT i. Said so it's in.

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Speaker 14: Context, Okay, yes so you did say, That, yes you

743
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Speaker 14: actually did say.

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Speaker 6: That.

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Speaker 13: Dan you better start blowing real hard down BECAUSE i, mean,

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Speaker 13: LIKE i, mean we have like one like one hundred

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Speaker 13: and eighteen meal top.

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Speaker 15: Three like most salary cap we go buy a couple

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Speaker 15: pieces on the office and kind of have.

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Speaker 3: That well you should have done that last year, Too, Yes.

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00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:30,359
Speaker 3: Pauli The Buffalo bills.

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00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 16: Are finalizing a deal to MAKE Oc Joe brady their

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Speaker 16: new head.

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00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 15: Coach according To Adam, Schefter.

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00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 2: Oh, see, Okay Joe, brady he was AT.

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00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 15: Lsu he got a lot of run for The Joe.

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00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 16: Burrow you're AT.

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00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 3: Lsu, yeah, no he gets. Promoted, okay good for. Him,

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00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 3: Uh bucky And Notre, Dame hey buck.

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Speaker 17: Gp lef me turn our radio, down can you guys hear?

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00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 3: Me?

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Speaker 17: Yes and it's another blizzard up. Here BUT i was

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Speaker 17: calling to find Out Notre dame usually does like three

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Speaker 17: concerts a. Year they've already announced two of. Them do

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Speaker 17: you know what your? Insight who the third concert? Is

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Speaker 17: in the middle of? Summer and if it's a big

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Speaker 17: band or a big older, band let's say rock, band

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Speaker 17: won't you guys come back To Notre dame ado your show?

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Speaker 2: Again, well who's the? Band?

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Speaker 17: Well with your, insights do you know who it?

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Speaker 10: Is?

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Speaker 7: Yet?

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00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 2: Yeah i'm GONNA i can we?

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Speaker 14: Guess?

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Speaker 5: Yeah go?

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Speaker 2: Ahead my guess Is Creed.

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Speaker 17: BOY i hope you guys are right and by the,

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Speaker 17: way six.

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Speaker 2: Foot but you don't. Know, wait, WAIT i don't. KNOW

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Speaker 2: i was calling you, Guys, ollie do.

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Speaker 5: You have the.

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Speaker 16: Answer i'm seeing That Luke colmbs with other country artists

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Speaker 16: are playing There april, eighteen twenty twenty AC Dc september,

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Speaker 16: fourth twenty twenty.

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Speaker 2: Six well those are, two he, said there's.

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Speaker 15: THREE i don't have a third listed.

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Speaker 2: Or a rumor of.

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Speaker 3: One, well it could Be, Creed. Bucky, no we won't

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Speaker 3: be coming back To Notre dame for that appear on

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Speaker 3: the driven, Indeed, uh do you REALIZE i played golf

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Speaker 3: With Scott, stapp the lead singer Of, creed and his

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00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 3: Son jagger was just. BORN i remember his wife or

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00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 3: girlfriend was bringing him onto the golf. Course AND i

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Speaker 3: don't know How jagger's got to be twenty six twenty

795
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Speaker 3: seven years of. Age i'm guessing maybe older than, that

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00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 3: but he named his Son. Jagger do we feel a

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00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 3: little smarter today than we did yesterday after we got

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Speaker 3: the analytics?

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Speaker 15: Update, NO i feel LIKE i understand What sam was talking. About, ish, okay.

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Speaker 6: Maybe have more of an appreciation of.

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Speaker 3: Everything, okay all, right that's, fine, fine we have The

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Speaker 3: mike McCarthy, game the first cliche that is. Uttered that's

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Speaker 3: in two hours from, now so we'll be by monitoring

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Speaker 3: that and obviously a focal point for the show.

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Speaker 2: Tomorrow i've never.

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00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 4: Looked forward to A mike McCarthy press conference.

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00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:25,399
Speaker 5: More THAN i am.

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00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 3: Today by the, way on this date in nineteen, seventy

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Speaker 3: The steelers Selected Terry bradshaw with the first overall selection

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Speaker 3: in THE nfl. DRAFT i was watching AN nfl draft

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Speaker 3: Where Pete roselle is on the podium and he lights

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Speaker 3: up a.

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Speaker 2: Cigarette old School, Yes he's, like.

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Speaker 3: Uh with the number one, pick And i'm, like what

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Speaker 3: what's going on?

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Speaker 2: Here fired up a? Heater todd would you learn?

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Speaker 7: Today cowboys Fan robin and San antonio would love to

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Speaker 7: see McCarthy when A Super bowl with the steel is

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Speaker 7: just at.

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00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 6: It To Jerry, Jones.

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00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 2: Satan, woodler the analytics was, Right Marvin bucky doesn't.

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Speaker 10: Know.

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Speaker 15: Paul we're becoming smart.

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Speaker 3: Guys thanks for the phone, calls, emails, tweets the all

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00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,760
Speaker 3: around support For Fritzie seat And Marv paula yours truly

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Speaker 3: have a Great.

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Speaker 2: Tuesday everybody