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Speaker 1: Listener discretion is advised. The World's evagion poet, Welcome to

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Speaker 1: Patriot's Unfiltered. I've never seen a guy take a knee

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Speaker 1: and lose the ball. I've seen you guys fumble on draws. Well,

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Speaker 1: I did see somebody take a knee this year and losing.

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Speaker 1: He didn't take a knee, he fumbled a snap. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Maybe someone lost the situation. I think you said it

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Speaker 1: Let's go down to Andrew. This is Patriot's Unfiltered, fueled

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Speaker 1: by Dunking. All right, Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It is

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Speaker 1: Wednesday here at Gillette Stadium, and we're awaiting Bill Belichick's

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Speaker 1: when it happens. I hear he's got a major announcement.

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Speaker 1: I'm only kids, we're hearing. I'm only kidding, but we

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Speaker 1: I mean, we're interested to see which direction this team

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Speaker 1: that when when he starts schedule for noon. Buddy's a

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Speaker 1: little late twelve or two now, but in the meantime,

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Speaker 1: eight five five Pats five hundred is the ticket houtline.

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Speaker 1: Web radio at pages dot com is the email address.

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Speaker 1: You know, we're still recovering. I think you know it's

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Speaker 1: trying to move on to the Bengals. Um. And here

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Speaker 1: twenty fourteen That was the twenty fourteen edition of the

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Speaker 1: thought that they could do you know, this would work out.

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00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,200
Speaker 1: It didn't work out. We're gonna move on. Ye And

422
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 1: that to me, that's okay, all right. I agree with you.

423
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 1: If he if he thinks that he didn't do anything wrong,

424
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 1: then that's a different argument. Absolutely, that's that's yeah. Yeah,

425
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,160
Speaker 1: Like he definitely got to bring in an actual offensive

426
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 1: coordinator next. Sure you gotta, yeah somebody, Yeah, absolutely, all right,

427
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:37,359
Speaker 1: Thanks for an offensive coach. Yeah, John's in LA. What's up? John? Guys,

428
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 1: you are like stavers. I mean, after the super Bowl

429
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 1: that shall not be named and a few other losses,

430
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 1: it's been hard for me to even get like listen

431
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 1: to the show. And I sort of I didn't want

432
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 1: to listen to the show after the Bills game a

433
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,360
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, and that was much less worse

434
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 1: than this. But I just want to say thank you

435
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,959
Speaker 1: for sort of you know, this time of year, one

436
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 1: thinks about what you're grateful for, and I'm really grateful

437
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,680
Speaker 1: that I tuned in yesterday and we did our therapy,

438
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:18,200
Speaker 1: as Fred likes to call it. That was infuriating, and

439
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 1: the whole season has been frustrating. I don't want to

440
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 1: fire Bill. I don't think they will. I hope they won't,

441
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 1: but I do hope he takes some accountability like you

442
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,680
Speaker 1: were just referring to, and like you guys talked about

443
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,879
Speaker 1: in the show yesterday, which he hasn't and the coaching

444
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,680
Speaker 1: staff happened and the players have. I think it's a

445
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:39,160
Speaker 1: very bad look and hopefully it's just like he can't

446
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 1: take that level of it right now. He's got to

447
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 1: wait till the end of the season. But he needs

448
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:48,200
Speaker 1: to acknowledge what anyone can see, ye, which is that

449
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 1: the things that I'm sure he was ready to show

450
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,199
Speaker 1: the media what he was going to do, and they

451
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 1: don't know anything. And Matt Patricia's smart guy, football guy.

452
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,920
Speaker 1: He needs to just suck it up and say that

453
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 1: didn't work. That's on me. It's all on me, and

454
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 1: we're going to try to do better, right, and he'll

455
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,639
Speaker 1: he'll go a long way with me. Yeah, I agree,

456
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 1: but mostly thank you, all right, well, thank you for listening.

457
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,440
Speaker 1: Thanks John, Yeah, thanks John. But it does make me wonder.

458
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're ever going to get that

459
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,159
Speaker 1: cathartic moment of Bill Belichick standing before the press and

460
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 1: saying this was a mistake, like you're gonna don't say it,

461
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 1: but through his actions, right, well you know that. What

462
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 1: do you mean if if if he makes a change,

463
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 1: do you know that that was through was his actions

464
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 1: that he just said, I you know that what I

465
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:36,399
Speaker 1: did was wrong and I have to I had to

466
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 1: change it. Or would you think that he was kind

467
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,879
Speaker 1: of forced into it. I don't think. I don't I

468
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 1: don't think he's going to be forced into anything like

469
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 1: like if he's being asked to do something he disagrees

470
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 1: with but he has no choice, he will leave. So

471
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:57,160
Speaker 1: I you know, that's my take. I'm not sure I agree. Yeah,

472
00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 1: I'm not sure because I don't. I don't think. I

473
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 1: don't think he wants to go anywhere else. I think

474
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 1: it's just he has everything set up here the way

475
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,120
Speaker 1: he wants it. I don't think he wants to start over.

476
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,120
Speaker 1: I don't either, But I don't think he also wants

477
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,880
Speaker 1: to be told how to run the team. And he'd

478
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 1: and again this is just me guessing, but I think

479
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 1: he'd rather not coach than you know, be under the

480
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 1: thumb of an owner. Yeah, well, I mean he didn't

481
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:25,199
Speaker 1: want to think it's he didn't want to stay at

482
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 1: the Jets. He didn't want to stay at the Jets

483
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 1: because he wasn't sure of who the new owner would

484
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:31,640
Speaker 1: be like. And he want to be under the thumb

485
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 1: of parcels. But you think that's the same as being

486
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 1: somewhere for twenty five years and you know, being asked

487
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 1: to make a change a coordinator, Well like not having

488
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 1: ideas newner is going to be in having parcels as shadow. No,

489
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 1: but I think Robert has the right and probably will

490
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 1: say Bill, you're gonna make a change, right, But I

491
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,120
Speaker 1: think it's Bill's going to agree with that. I think, See,

492
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 1: I don't. Yeah, I think if a change is made,

493
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 1: it's probably more likely it's like I don't want to

494
00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:59,679
Speaker 1: do it, but I gotta do it. Well, he might,

495
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,640
Speaker 1: but you know, Patricia's his friend too, but I think

496
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 1: he's gonna. I think he knows again, like how can

497
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,400
Speaker 1: he not say what everybody else? And that's why it's

498
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 1: not flying anymore, like the you know, playing hard to

499
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 1: get Oh, well, we'll just work better, Like it's been

500
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 1: so bad this year that I think that's what you know,

501
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 1: fans like especially, they want to hear it from Let's

502
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 1: just say even let's just say that Bill thinks the

503
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:26,120
Speaker 1: mistake was not Patricia and Judge. The mistake was drafting

504
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 1: Mac Jones. Let's just say that in his mind, he

505
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,679
Speaker 1: thinks that's a mistake. You can't tell me looking at

506
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,399
Speaker 1: this team that it's just Mac, even if you believe

507
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 1: that it's it's not everything play, I mean that's you know,

508
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 1: that's a symptom of it, of everything That last play,

509
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what where that's where we're at. These

510
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 1: guys they don't you know, they're not all on the

511
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 1: same page, they're not all pulling in the same director.

512
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 1: And and the thing is like, what what you don't

513
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 1: see on this team is a lack of effort, and

514
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 1: you don't see guys that don't care. I mean, you

515
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 1: guys were distraught after this game. The locker room was

516
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: like a funeral. Jacobe Myers isn't tears. They care. It's

517
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 1: not like OH nine, where you had a bunch of

518
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 1: guys that couldn't give a crap. These guys care. So

519
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 1: it's not about that. It's not about that, you know.

520
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 1: I mean, I think we're gonna find out. We're gonna

521
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 1: find out. I think it's a great comparison to OH nine.

522
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 1: I think it's a dysfunctional locker room. I think there's

523
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 1: too many guys doing their own thing. Yeah, like it

524
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 1: doesn't manifest itself, and guys not necessarily caring or openly

525
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 1: not caring. Yeah, it's I'm doing my thing, but that

526
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 1: I'm going to flip the ball over my shoulder. But

527
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 1: that's I'm trying to make a play to win the game.

528
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: But it's not that they don't care that they win

529
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 1: a lose. No, it's I'm gonna do what I want to,

530
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 1: try to do something to make a play. But but

531
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 1: then to me, that comes back to coaching. Yes, you know, yes, yeah,

532
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 1: and I'll go back to oh nine. I just can't

533
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 1: get them to play the way they need to play.

534
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 1: And I think he if he was doing a football

535
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 1: life on this year, you'd hear him saying that to

536
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 1: Patricia or Judge. Wouldn't be saying it to Mac because

537
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 1: I eminently they don't talk. I don't see any of

538
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 1: Dahlias Thomas is on this team, and see I don't like,

539
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 1: I don't know how you can I do I don't necessarily.

540
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I think Kendrick Bowen is a daylist Thomas,

541
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 1: Like he's doing it every single week. I mean it's

542
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 1: more often that Trent Brown is Sean Springs. Like. I

543
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 1: think it's the same. You might be right, right, I

544
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 1: think it's the same, only this team isn't as talented

545
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 1: as that team. Yeah, you might be right. I just

546
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 1: I just get the sense that the guys they want

547
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 1: to win, they want to be cod where's Isaiah win Well,

548
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 1: he's Yeah, that's a good one. I mean, like, but

549
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 1: he's not playing. No, I know that's the point, well,

550
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 1: because he don't care, Like I just yeah, you might

551
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 1: be right, you might be right. I mean, I mean

552
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 1: unless he's got like a broken foot and we don't

553
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 1: know it. But like, I find it hard to don't

554
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 1: you find it interesting that we haven't had any, like

555
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 1: Jim McBride medical updates on Isaiah Win just gone. Yeah,

556
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 1: I mean he had foot injury. He was out that week,

557
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 1: and he was out the next week, then he was

558
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 1: out the next week, and then they put him on.

559
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 1: I mean, when it comes to the story of this team,

560
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 1: everything's on the table, you know, like as as a

561
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 1: possible storyline. You know, you can't rule anything out good

562
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 1: or bad. You know, you just can't, because you know,

563
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 1: we don't know. That's where that's where I land. I'm

564
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 1: not telling you why, No, definitively, I'm just saying I

565
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 1: feel like there's a lot of two thousand and nine

566
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: with this team. And I think it's also interesting the

567
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 1: worst A lot of people call this the worst regular

568
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 1: season lost in Patriots history. I think that it rivals

569
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 1: one of the losses that would rival at his fourth

570
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 1: and two well, and that was two thousand and nine. Like,

571
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 1: but there's a lot of it, I would say in

572
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 1: correlations in terms of how we felt coming out of

573
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 1: this game. We got to go back to fourteen coming

574
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 1: out of that Kansas City game, you know, like we

575
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 1: had national TV analysts telling us, you know, they're not

576
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 1: that good anymore, blah blah blah, and like, remember how

577
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 1: we felt coming out of Like, hey, Brady got benched.

578
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: Brady got benched in that game. You're taken out of

579
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 1: the game. He didn't get he got taken out of

580
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 1: the game. But there's a different okay, but but he

581
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 1: wasn't playing well. Nobody. It was an awful, awful game,

582
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 1: and we were like, oh my god, what is going

583
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 1: on with this team? And then they just turned it

584
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: around the next week and the rest is history. But

585
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 1: we felt I felt just as bad after that game

586
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 1: as this game. Oh I didn't. I did. I didn't,

587
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 1: Oh I did. I'm not telling you that I knew

588
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 1: they were gonna rattle off one hundred wins in a

589
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 1: row and win the Super Bowl. I'm not telling you that.

590
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 1: Not telling you I wasn't like taking a step back,

591
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 1: but that team was one of the most talented teams

592
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 1: of the Dynasty. It turns out the team, but after

593
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 1: that game, you're like, despite their talent, you're like this,

594
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 1: I was shook. I was shook. There was sometimes they

595
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: weren't they weren't playing. Well, I'm not gonna lie and

596
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 1: tell you why I knew that. I didn't. I didn't

597
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 1: know that they were gonna rattle off and all. And

598
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 1: you're right, Paul, this team is not as talented as

599
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 1: that team. But I think this team is better than

600
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 1: what they're showing, oh for sure. And so again I

601
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 1: gotta go back to coaching. Why they're not getting out

602
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 1: of these guys what they I just I mean, every

603
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:06,959
Speaker 1: single person you included had their record being eight and nine, eight,

604
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 1: and that's where they're going to end up. And everybody's

605
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 1: telling me how much more talented they are than they're playing.

606
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: They're not there, but they're not. But here's the thing.

607
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 1: They could still be eight and nine, but the offense

608
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 1: would look like a real NFL offense. You know. The

609
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 1: offense just doesn't look like an NFL offense. It's just

610
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:29,719
Speaker 1: not right. Yeah, I think the coaching is a big

611
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 1: part of it. But I also think that's why a

612
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 1: lot of people had them predicted to be eight and

613
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: nine to nine and eight, right, because I don't think

614
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 1: a lot of people had a lot of faith in

615
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 1: the setup. I just I think there's a difference though,

616
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: between nine and eight and seven and ten, you know,

617
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 1: and I think seven and ten is still on the

618
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 1: table for this team. And you know, you talk about

619
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 1: Kansas City. That game happened early in the season, and

620
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 1: at the time, I wasn't losing my mind over that one.

621
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 1: I felt like, man, this it felt to me like

622
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 1: they just had one of those one offers. This is

623
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 1: the end of the season. This is how they're playing.

624
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 1: At the end of the season. There's no time to to,

625
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 1: you know, find yourself and turn it around. So I

626
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:01,719
Speaker 1: just think all these things are gonna come to a head.

627
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 1: We'll see what kind of they have coming out they

628
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 1: go seven and ten. In my opinion, the difference between

629
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 1: eight and nine and seven and ten would be they

630
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 1: lost to a team that you didn't expect to lose,

631
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 1: to Chicago, and they didn't beat anybody that you didn't

632
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: expect them to beat, which they almost always do. They

633
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 1: always beat somebody that you have Baltimore and the Cam

634
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 1: Newton year, like there's always a game like that that

635
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:25,839
Speaker 1: you wow, I didn't. I didn't think they'd win that game.

636
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 1: Maybe it was the Chargers last year, you know, when

637
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 1: they went to LA and they won that game. Right now,

638
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:34,839
Speaker 1: as of right now, if they if Mike is right,

639
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 1: and they lose the last three and go seven and ten,

640
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 1: they couldn't beat a good team. They didn't beat anybody

641
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:41,919
Speaker 1: that you weren't expecting them to beat, and they lost

642
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 1: to somebody that you didn't expect them to lose. That's

643
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 1: the different Tue eight and nine and seven and ten. Yeah, yeah,

644
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:48,919
Speaker 1: but you need a last second punt return against the Jets,

645
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,800
Speaker 1: and you also got all these favorable matchups like you

646
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: got last year of you know, like I mean, the

647
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 1: wins that they got against the teams they got team

648
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 1: won weren't against good offenses with a good quarter. So

649
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 1: I mean, it could have been worse. Splitting hairs, it

650
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 1: could have been worse, Mike, you're right. That's a good point,

651
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 1: because they had a couple of games that you might

652
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 1: have thought would have been a little bit tougher that

653
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 1: weren't like the Colts game. Yeah, you're right, maybe the

654
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 1: Packers too, You're right, But you know, either way, I

655
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 1: just think we'll see, like all this talk about where

656
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,879
Speaker 1: they're at mentally, like, we'll see where they're at when

657
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 1: they get out there against a very a very good team.

658
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 1: You know, are they gonna well, like like we said

659
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 1: last week with Josh, you know, how will the team,

660
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:28,800
Speaker 1: how will the Raiders come out? You know, has he

661
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 1: does he still have command of the locker room. Let's

662
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 1: see how the Patriots come out same based on the

663
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 1: way they played, I'd say no, yeah, well maybe yeah.

664
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,280
Speaker 1: I mean that's kind of the joke too with the pads,

665
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 1: is that, you know, you talk about these things and

666
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:43,359
Speaker 1: they've all they kind of looked the same every game

667
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 1: they come out. There's not really a big difference whether

668
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 1: they're gonna play a good game or a bad game.

669
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 1: Like they're just gonna kind of play like they play. Now. Yeah,

670
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 1: back to the phones. Let's go to Tom and Connecticut.

671
00:35:53,440 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 1: What's up, Tom, Tam? Hey are you guys doing good? Hey? So, um,

672
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,320
Speaker 1: I saw an article the other day on Nesting about

673
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 1: potentially Julian Edelman coming back only if Doingland is a contender,

674
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 1: and I was calling to see what you guys think

675
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: about that. I'm taking myself off the year. Yeah, I

676
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: think he's done. He just keeps playing the charade every time.

677
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think the other I don't

678
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 1: think the Patriots are either, but oh less than one percent.

679
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 1: I don't like to say zero, but I'm not in

680
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 1: for I don't want to come back in these last

681
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 1: three games. I guess the last two games, since we're

682
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:32,879
Speaker 1: already at Wednesday, is that? Is that what he's saying

683
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 1: or just I think he means next year? Next year?

684
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 1: Like why would why would he come back? Now? No?

685
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 1: I know that's that's why I was asking for clarification.

686
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 1: They already made a football life about him. It's over, okay, Yeah,

687
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 1: I mean I like the Brady Gronk Edelman thing. To me,

688
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:53,399
Speaker 1: I just don't understand, like, if you're really a fan

689
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: of the Patriots and not necessarily a fan of like

690
00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:00,800
Speaker 1: what an unbelievable story in the buzz put the pr aside.

691
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,360
Speaker 1: If you're really a fan of the Patriots, that's what

692
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: you think is the best thing to do. I mean,

693
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,320
Speaker 1: it's Brady Gronk Edelman will do that again going to happen.

694
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: But if it did, two out of three of them

695
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 1: would not finish the season. Oh for sure, so it

696
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 1: wouldn't matter. Uh Williamson, Philam, what's up? William what's going on? Fred? Hey? Mike? Hey?

697
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 1: My god? For I mean seem like every always got

698
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 1: something to say about this team. Well, but I'm not surprised.

699
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 1: I'm not surprised at all. But it's just getting it's

700
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 1: getting worse at every time. And um uh it's Tamara

701
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 1: end today. She is not okay. Uh can you send

702
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 1: a message to uh was Tamara? Please tell her? I

703
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 1: don't want to hear anything more about Jacobe Mikes. There

704
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 1: was nothing special about him. Time to get go. Yeah,

705
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 1: he's he's the owned up to it and everything. I

706
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 1: take my head off to him and everything. But that

707
00:37:56,520 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 1: was so dumb. Oh my god. And you you go

708
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 1: back twenty yards and then you're gonna throw the ball. Well,

709
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 1: I think he got caught up in it, you know,

710
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 1: like if you're gonna like like Remandre started it like

711
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 1: so like he probably looks up to remand he started it,

712
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 1: you know, like, well he gave me the ball, I

713
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: gotta give somebody else, you know. Yeah, but when I

714
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 1: Remando runs, he's running in the right direction. He throws

715
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 1: it back you know, even though he started the jumping

716
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 1: out yeah and then your corns back. I know, I

717
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 1: know it was. It was a complete brain fart, like Jacobe,

718
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 1: you playing for a no, you trying to get a contract,

719
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 1: Danna sign like that. There's a terrible play by both

720
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 1: of them equally Jesus. Um. So my my question is this,

721
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna take it off there. I' gonna leaveing

722
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 1: that this. I just need an answer from each and

723
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 1: one of you. Do you want change? If you want change?

724
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 1: And y'all already know, y'all stay, Bill ain't gonna change

725
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 1: and it's now, So what do you want to do?

726
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 1: You want to move on or not? No? I want change,

727
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 1: but I want Bill to make the change. I need

728
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: more information. Yeah yeah, I mean, in a perfect world,

729
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 1: I just want him to put an offensive coordinator in.

730
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:07,320
Speaker 1: I don't want any more change than that. I just

731
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,359
Speaker 1: need an offensive coordinator. But I need to know more.

732
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 1: I need to know how much he wants to do

733
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: that ros because I don't want him doing it if

734
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 1: he doesn't want to do it, just to go along,

735
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 1: to get along, yet separate. Definitely, we definitely need infusion

736
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 1: of talent. Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, all right, John, thank you,

737
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 1: all right, thanks William h. Let's go to Jeff and Texas.

738
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 1: What's up, Jeff, Hi, guys, Hey, I just got a

739
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 1: couple of things here. Um, and you were just talking

740
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 1: about a minute ago. Um, Like Kraft, I mean, here's

741
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 1: the thing, um, I mean, you think craft these all this,

742
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,280
Speaker 1: you know, some of the local media and national media.

743
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 1: What's you know what everybody's saying. I mean, he's got

744
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 1: to be you know, he's just gotta be unbelievably upset

745
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:56,839
Speaker 1: about Yeah, oh yeah, absolutely, this is he's a fan.

746
00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:00,479
Speaker 1: He started to see a lot of national guys sort

747
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 1: of posing the idea of trading Belichick, for example, Mike Florio,

748
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:10,360
Speaker 1: you know, you know, do you do you let it?

749
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 1: Knowing that he's available, you know, and a lot of

750
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 1: people are sort of putting pieces together and starting to wonder,

751
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 1: is this like the first part of the plan, like

752
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 1: to start the divorce. Yeah. Raft famously said I'm not

753
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 1: gonna trade Tom Brady. You know, that's just I'm not

754
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 1: gonna do that. I'm gonna let him, you know, uh,

755
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 1: control his own fate. I think he believes the same

756
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 1: thing with Belichick. He would not do that and Belichick.

757
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 1: He'd be like, Okay, you're trading me to Carolina. Yeah,

758
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 1: I'm not going I'm quitting. I'm retiring. No, no, no, no,

759
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 1: that's not how a trade of a coach work. Yeah,

760
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 1: that's what I was about to ask. Trade work. A

761
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 1: trade of a coach is the coach has interest in

762
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 1: coaching somebody else, and you have interested in allowing that

763
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 1: to happen. Okay, so like you're not gonna, like, you're

764
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 1: not gonna banish him to the like the worst team

765
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 1: in the league, showed you Bill, all right, Okay, well

766
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 1: if that's somebody like I don't like Sean. I mean,

767
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 1: John Gruden wanted to coach Tampa Bay. But where's he

768
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 1: gonna want to go? Where does he want to go?

769
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 1: You know, other than the Giants and they've got a

770
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 1: good coach. Now, you know, I don't have the answer

771
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 1: to the question. But like, it's not like we're gonna

772
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 1: trade Richard Seymour to the Raiders because we think that's

773
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 1: the worst place that he could go. And that's it.

774
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:28,840
Speaker 1: You have to trade it, obviously to a team that

775
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 1: needs a coach, you know, but that could be anybody. Well,

776
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:36,320
Speaker 1: it could be I don't think there's gonna be that

777
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 1: many openings, but like I don't know, Jets, Yeah, Fred, Fred,

778
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 1: you were just staying a minute ago. You know, he

779
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 1: wouldn't want to be forced by Kraft. But I think,

780
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 1: like Kraft can't just go sit down with Belichick and

781
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,399
Speaker 1: have Belichick there. You know, I'm gonna do what's best

782
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 1: for the team. Don't worry, you know, maybe not, there's

783
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 1: gotta be I mean, Crafty got to maybe he's got

784
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 1: to really put his foot down, but not maybe you know,

785
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 1: take him forth, But I mean he it can't be

786
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 1: what how it's been the last few years. It's got

787
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 1: to be craft has really got to have some input

788
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 1: to get some big changes. Yeah, yeah, I mean, if

789
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 1: I'm Robert Kraft, I want to know, Bill, what are

790
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 1: you gonna do? What's your plan? What's your plan? And

791
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:22,879
Speaker 1: I want to know if what he wants to do too.

792
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 1: Like if I'm Robert Kraft, I can sit here and

793
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 1: I can say, like, don't you think we need to

794
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:29,839
Speaker 1: do something about this offensive coordant? Well, I mean if

795
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 1: you really think, like I don't want him. I don't

796
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:35,839
Speaker 1: want him coaching under those circumstances. I want somebody else. Yeah,

797
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 1: I think everybody's on the same page. If he disagrees.

798
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,359
Speaker 1: If he disagrees, yeah, I don't want him going along

799
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 1: to get along, Like to you a point, Fred, I

800
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 1: want him to say I tried something, it didn't work, right,

801
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:48,320
Speaker 1: I need to do something. I'm gonna move on, And

802
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 1: then i'd say, yeah, by all means, I think he's

803
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:55,359
Speaker 1: better than the alternative. I just yeah, I just don't

804
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,359
Speaker 1: think it's like a non non starter. Like I think

805
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,359
Speaker 1: that there's some people that think, like it's ridiculous even

806
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 1: taught like that aspf W that we're getting that that's

807
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 1: just like, you know, killing us. We're even thinking about it,

808
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:13,359
Speaker 1: like they've been an average team since Tom left, right, Yeah,

809
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 1: so at some point you have to think, well, can

810
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: I be an average team without Bill Belichick? Right? That's

811
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 1: the thing. Do I have to pay somebody whatever they're

812
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 1: paying Bill to be five hundred team? And what is

813
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 1: he doing to make me as good as? You know?

814
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 1: Like if I don't have him, I mean I'm going

815
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 1: to be four and thirteen, Right, I don't think that's

816
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 1: the case. Well, I think that's the indictment now that

817
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,439
Speaker 1: people are coming to is that it's a poorly coach team.

818
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 1: I still think Bill is as smart, if not smarter,

819
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 1: than any coach out there. And you know, like you

820
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 1: make mistakes. This was a colossal one, you know, and

821
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 1: so you move on. I just think, like you know,

822
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 1: people are in the past, there's been controversial decisions made

823
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 1: over the last twenty years that you know, you never

824
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 1: could quite pin down the reasoning of, well, why, you know,

825
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 1: I'm thinking of like a lot of random ones. I mean,

826
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 1: you know, letting Chandler Jones, go, Wes Welker, just guys,

827
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 1: but maybe generally guys that have laughed. I'm sure you

828
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 1: know there are other examples I'm not thinking of, but

829
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 1: you know those ones that were like, okay, well we're

830
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 1: you know, we're in the AFC Championship last year, we're

831
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 1: probably going to be an AFC Championship. Okay, you know,

832
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 1: you've got kind of the benefit of the doubt. And

833
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 1: now you get to this point where it's like, look,

834
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 1: it wasn't like, you know, a player left and there

835
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 1: was some drop off at the position. There was a

836
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 1: complete overhaul of a side of the ball that you

837
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 1: oversaw that by all statistics, anybody who watches football says

838
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 1: that it was a failure, and I think people just

839
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 1: want him to be able to admit that, and I

840
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 1: think that would go a long way. Going back to

841
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 1: the earlier point though, I just wonder people are going

842
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 1: to get that satisfaction if they come out of it.

843
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 1: And you know, to Paul's point that we don't really

844
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 1: know if his hand was forced. If well, yeah, we

845
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 1: hired Bill Brian, what was that what you wanted? Did

846
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 1: you want to run it back? I don't. I just

847
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 1: think everybody, and going back to the mailback, everybody's losing

848
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 1: their mind thinking that Bill's just going to be like,

849
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 1: I'm doing what I always do. I'm making the decision.

850
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:58,360
Speaker 1: We're gonna keep the same thing. This is what I

851
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 1: do and just shut up and sit back and and

852
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 1: you know, wait for it to work. But I don't

853
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 1: think people trust it. If that's the case, okay, and

854
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 1: Robert Craft allows that to happen and they start out

855
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 1: oh and five, or then you could see a mid

856
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 1: season firing. I mean that's another question. Fred is like,

857
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 1: you know, do you think that that they give themselves

858
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:22,760
Speaker 1: an out? I mean, it's it's a really hard position

859
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 1: that Robert Craft is in right now with you know,

860
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 1: an all time coach and to Bill's done so much

861
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 1: for this team, you know, like do you want to

862
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 1: be the guy who oversaw the departures of both Brady

863
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 1: and Belichick? Like, no, that's that's a that's a really

864
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 1: hard right spot. I think I think for the organization

865
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 1: it would and I don't know how this ever really

866
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 1: ends up happening, but just a you know, a nice

867
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 1: depart like how do how does he's on board with

868
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 1: the departure and how it's all going to work? And

869
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 1: everybody has some good feelings and the fans are you know,

870
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:53,760
Speaker 1: not saying things like oh, you know Bill hated craft,

871
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:55,800
Speaker 1: you know, starting up with all the drama of like

872
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 1: could it just be peaceful and amicable? And everybody says, oh,

873
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:00,879
Speaker 1: that was a nice ending. That's why a lot of people.

874
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 1: But I think that's why a lot of people talk

875
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:05,720
Speaker 1: about this trade possibility. I think that's why Mike Florio

876
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 1: raised that. I think he was the first national guy

877
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 1: to thanks to pose that. And I'm not telling you

878
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 1: I want to I want him, I want but that's

879
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 1: not what That's not what we're talking about in this show.

880
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 1: Like to that emailer on ASKPFW that thinks that we're

881
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 1: killing Bill Belt. We're not. We're just wondering. The only

882
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 1: problem is the future, the near future going going to

883
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 1: look like and how might it be different? But you're

884
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 1: you know, your leverage is down though, if like you're

885
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 1: out there saying, Okay, we're willing to like when Bill,

886
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 1: when Bill came here from the Jets, the Jets didn't

887
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 1: want to let him go, you know, they wanted to

888
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 1: keep him, and Tagliabu had to come in and mediate

889
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 1: the whole thing, and he said, Okay, you know this

890
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 1: is what you you know, Robert, this is what you

891
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 1: have to give the Jets if you want him. And

892
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 1: the Jets had to agree to that. But like the

893
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 1: Jets didn't want to, you know, get rid of them. Yeah. Right,

894
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 1: This is why I'm saying, you're not trading Bill to

895
00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:59,800
Speaker 1: who you want him to go to. Bill is deciding

896
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 1: he wants to go and you're letting him. Yeah, that's like,

897
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:07,359
Speaker 1: so it ends up being the same. But I mean,

898
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 1: I also think I know you're gonna push back on this.

899
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 1: I don't think you're getting nearly what you think you're

900
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:14,879
Speaker 1: getting for seventy one year old coach. And what I mean, Yeah,

901
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 1: if you have, you know, like the other team, whoever

902
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 1: it is, you know, knows you want to get rid

903
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 1: of him. Well, I don't care if that they don't

904
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 1: think you want to get rid of him. You're not

905
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 1: getting what you think you're getting for a seventy one

906
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:29,320
Speaker 1: year old coach. Yeah. Well, and I mean he certainly

907
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 1: has the name brand. But I mean, how do you

908
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 1: not look at what the Patriots have done post Brady

909
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 1: and say, oh, he's gonna go in and get us

910
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 1: a new quarterback and it's gonna work here when it

911
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,720
Speaker 1: didn't work in a place where he has everything already

912
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 1: in position like that, that'd be funny. He goes to

913
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 1: another team, he goes, oh, and by the way, Matt

914
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 1: Patricia is gonna be our offensive. Well, I don't mean

915
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 1: that's I mean joking aside though, I mean, but that's

916
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 1: part of it too. Like when he goes, if he

917
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 1: were to go somewhere, he's bringing a party with him,

918
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 1: and things are going to change in that building for

919
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 1: you know, in a lot of different ways. Prepared to

920
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 1: sign up. Let's let's let's say it's ten years ago,

921
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 1: but we're going to use the current climate, and so

922
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 1: the teams are structured the way they are, Right, Carolina

923
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 1: got a job opening. Um so ten years ago, Carolina

924
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 1: might have said, yeah, we'll give you two first round picks,

925
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 1: maybe a second Today, it doesn't make any sense for

926
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:27,360
Speaker 1: either party. It doesn't make any sense for Bill to

927
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 1: go to Carolina without without any structure, at the age

928
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 1: of seventy one and say I'm gonna be around long

929
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 1: enough to fix this. And it doesn't make any sense

930
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 1: for Carolina to say, he's seventy one. By the time

931
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:43,320
Speaker 1: he's ready, we're ready to contend. He's got to be

932
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 1: pretty much close to hanging up the whistle. Where did

933
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 1: Bill start his coaching career Baltimore? The Colts. Yeah, who's

934
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 1: probably gonna need a coach next year? They won't probably

935
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 1: they have an opening. And who who would probably would

936
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 1: do something crazy as an owner? Right? Yeah, I think

937
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 1: he's crazy. I just say, like, maybe you'll get a

938
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:09,359
Speaker 1: first round pick. Maybe. I don't know. I think earth say,

939
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:11,319
Speaker 1: might give you a little bit more than that. I don't,

940
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:14,399
Speaker 1: I don't, and I don't. Glorio said, if you could

941
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:17,879
Speaker 1: get a first round pick, I think that's what you're

942
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 1: looking at. I don't. But would Bill want to go

943
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 1: to Indianapolis. No, I don't know where. He wouldn't think

944
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 1: you'd want to go. I like, I think that. I

945
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 1: think New York makes it. Like if if if the

946
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 1: Jets were to say, like, you know, we were whatever

947
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 1: we were, you know, and we have this, we have

948
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:38,760
Speaker 1: a playoff caliber defense, we have a lot of weapons

949
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,280
Speaker 1: on offense. We just have to figure out the situation

950
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 1: at quarterback. But I mean, it's already a team on

951
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 1: the cusp of the playoffs. They're probably not gonna make it,

952
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 1: but they're on the cusp, right, so they don't like

953
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 1: Robert Sala there, I wouldn't Why did you watch the

954
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 1: end of the game the other day, right, what did

955
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 1: he do talk about a guy over his skis? Oh

956
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:59,879
Speaker 1: my god? One forty nine left and all three time outs.

957
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,399
Speaker 1: They had a call time out with two seconds left

958
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 1: to kick a fifty eight yard field goal, and they

959
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,880
Speaker 1: still had another time out that they never used. That's

960
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 1: gross negligence, as my as I like to say, coaching negligence. Okay,

961
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think he's gonna start over though.

962
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 1: That's just I don't think he is either. I'm just

963
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:19,799
Speaker 1: throwing crap out there. Yeah, like, I don't think he's

964
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 1: gonna want to start over. But to me, the Jets

965
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 1: aren't starting over. Yeah, there's a lot in play. Carolina

966
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 1: would be starting over. Could we could we tack to

967
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 1: the your observation about yesterday about practice yesterday? Oh you uh?

968
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:35,360
Speaker 1: I like that? You go something that struck me in

969
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 1: a little bit more to the off air show they do.

970
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 1: Sometimes I say things off here. I mean I think, yeah,

971
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:45,400
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm just kidding. It was something I thought of. Um,

972
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 1: So do you remember a couple weeks ago after that

973
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 1: Buffalo game, Freddie, the Thursday night game that we lost

974
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:54,839
Speaker 1: here Um, Andrew Callahan of The Herald was on one

975
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:58,320
Speaker 1: of the talk shows at night at NBC Sports Boston,

976
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:00,399
Speaker 1: all the shows they used to have me on all

977
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 1: the time, and he said that he had heard from

978
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 1: a lot of players that they were very disappointed to

979
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:11,320
Speaker 1: learn the day after the Buffalo game that they weren't

980
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 1: practicing and they didn't think they practiced enough. They got

981
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 1: like that weekend off. He thought that the players were,

982
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 1: you know, confused, they wanted they expected to practice on

983
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 1: the Friday or come in and whatever. And I kind

984
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 1: of didn't think that much of that because they played

985
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:31,399
Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving Thursday. The next Thursday, you know, it's kind

986
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 1: of seems like common practice to get some time off

987
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 1: after that Thursday game. You have, in this case, eleven

988
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 1: days before your next game on the Monday night game.

989
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:42,800
Speaker 1: I didn't think that much of that. Were you a

990
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 1: little surprised they didn't practice yesterday because I was. I was, Yeah,

991
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:49,760
Speaker 1: I mean it should have been winning. Yesterday was Wednesday,

992
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,840
Speaker 1: and you are parlance. Yeah, yeah, players were off. The

993
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:56,800
Speaker 1: players were off. I thought that was I thought that

994
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 1: was interesting. Yeah, it's usually three days of practice. Three

995
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 1: days are I just been a walkthrough? They have two

996
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:05,879
Speaker 1: days of practice in a walkthrough according to the schedule. Yeah,

997
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 1: I was a little bit surprised because then, you know,

998
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 1: it's a Saturday game, so you pick up a day,

999
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 1: you know next week, you know, so like, yeah, you're

1000
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:16,839
Speaker 1: gonna be tired, but you're gonna pick up a day

1001
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:19,400
Speaker 1: and maybe you get you give him Sunday and Monday

1002
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 1: off and Tuesday. You know, you could really give him

1003
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:25,320
Speaker 1: three days off after this and then report back on

1004
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 1: Wednesday for the Sunday game. So yeah, I was a

1005
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 1: little surprised. So that was just something I thought of

1006
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 1: you know, is it? Does it have something to do

1007
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 1: with him? You know it is? You know, he's like,

1008
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 1: it's not like out of school, does he's seventy. He

1009
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 1: once said that he didn't see himself doing that, right.

1010
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 1: He feels differently about it now, obviously, which is he

1011
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 1: never said it. And I get that, like a lot

1012
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:52,359
Speaker 1: of us have done that. You think things, you say things,

1013
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 1: and when you get older or wiser or whatever, you

1014
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 1: think differently. I'm not killing him for saying it, but

1015
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 1: the reason he probably said it is because he couldn't

1016
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 1: see himself being energized enough to do it. And I

1017
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 1: wonder if he's not just wondering again. Yeah, I mean,

1018
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 1: he seems in good shape, and it seems remarkably consistent. Yeah,

1019
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:14,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I hope I'm in I hope I look

1020
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:16,320
Speaker 1: like you know, believe it or not. I hope I

1021
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 1: look like him when I'm seventy. Yeah, you know, you'll

1022
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 1: look better than that when you're seventy. But I when

1023
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:24,880
Speaker 1: I watch him, I do think he's remarkably consistent. Like

1024
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:28,439
Speaker 1: I still see a lot of the same things. Hear,

1025
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 1: the same things, observe at practice, the same stuff. Like

1026
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 1: he looks Yeah, he looks very similar to me. And

1027
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 1: that's the other that's the thing, Like you say, oh,

1028
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 1: you know, another team wouldn't give you what you think

1029
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:41,800
Speaker 1: they're gonna give you. I think he looks and you

1030
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 1: know it has nothing to do with the I don't

1031
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:46,839
Speaker 1: know why you're fixating on the condition he is, Mike said,

1032
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:49,840
Speaker 1: I mean mentally, and when Brady left it has not

1033
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 1: been the same. No, it hasn't. So that's why you're

1034
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 1: not gonna get what your plus. I just don't think

1035
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:57,799
Speaker 1: there's a huge market for a seventy one year old coach,

1036
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 1: which he'll be next year. Why are you going to

1037
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:04,839
Speaker 1: give up huge assets for your future for a guy

1038
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 1: who's not going to be there for your future. Yeah, right,

1039
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 1: it's it's it's intriguing, it really is. It's it's going

1040
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:17,320
Speaker 1: to be a fascinating off season. Evans back from practice,

1041
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 1: and when we come back from the break, we're going

1042
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:23,320
Speaker 1: to hear all about what he witnessed out on the

1043
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 1: practice field, and we'll get to that right after this. Verizon,

1044
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:30,360
Speaker 1: the network America relies on and the official five G

1045
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Speaker 1: At Dean College, our students don't just play games, run them.

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Speaker 1: But it takes a big step to get there. In fact,

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Speaker 1: in and day out to something bigger than yourself. Putnam

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Speaker 1: a world of investing Patriots fans, you'll want to check

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Speaker 1: out the replay on this one. Pat the Patriot is

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Speaker 1: he's paying back his buddy for concessions using Zell No

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Speaker 1: Terms and conditions apply Member FDIC. Verizon, the network America

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Speaker 1: New England Patriots. How did Verizon build the fastest five

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Speaker 1: G in the world. We started by building it right

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Speaker 1: it's twenty five times faster than today's four G networks.

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Speaker 1: In sports, if you think joy only happens after you win,

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Speaker 1: like getting together with friends over Michelobe Ultra, because they

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Speaker 1: know that happiness is the key to win it, and

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Speaker 1: that joy is the whole game, not just the end game.

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Speaker 1: responsibly abe michelob Ultra Light Beer, Saint Louis, Missouri. There's

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Speaker 1: no season better than football season, and there's no better

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Speaker 1: place to get in on all of the action than

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Speaker 1: if you haven't tried it yet. Fantasy football is easy

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Speaker 1: for success by learning directly from the pros. Dean College

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Speaker 1: unprecedented hands on experiences. Our students take what they learn

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Speaker 1: replacements were shipped with FedEx and with picture proof of delivery,

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Speaker 1: Putnam is proud to partner with those who share their

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Speaker 1: to check out the replay on this one. Pat the

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Speaker 1: And wait, now he's paying back his buddy for concessions

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Speaker 1: that double move wasn't impressive enough, now he's beefing up

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Speaker 1: his account defense with security meter. Holy Connoli, what a performance.

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Speaker 1: great moments in history? Oh I, what's about? Guy? What's about?

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Speaker 1: Twice this week? I'm mad at my kid. I'm mad

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Speaker 1: Ninety five. Even though it's a short distance from two

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Speaker 1: Ever today today I was like, uh, you know what,

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Speaker 1: quarter of eleven in the morning. What could possibly go wrong?

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Speaker 1: While some jackass drove into the median there and the

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Speaker 1: like I'm stuck in traffic, and there are literally people

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Speaker 1: all the sirens are coming. There's cop after cop and

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Speaker 1: got up to the the accident, there were a half

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Speaker 1: dozen fire trucks blocking the passing lane because this guy

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Speaker 1: literally there's like you know how some of the medians

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Speaker 1: have like they dip down, but there's like vegetation and

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Speaker 1: trees and stuff. This guy drove his car into the

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Speaker 1: trees about five minutes later. And then earlier this week

1242
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Speaker 1: we had that thing down one our webmaster got stuck

1243
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Speaker 1: in it too. It was Monday or Tuesday. Yeah, well, hey,

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Speaker 1: how going traffic on the threes? That's another great moment

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Speaker 1: from Great. We're back here on Patriots had filtered and

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Speaker 1: Evan is back from practice? All right? Was there a

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Speaker 1: lot to see today? Evan? Well, first of all, I

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Speaker 1: gotta tell you my traffic story, just kidding, stop it

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Speaker 1: so out of Patriots practice today, and they did, in

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01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:50,040
Speaker 1: fact practice today, as you all snarkily asked me when

1251
01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:54,360
Speaker 1: I walked in, No Jalen Mills he remains absent with

1252
01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:58,560
Speaker 1: that groin injury, and no DeVante Parker, who remains absent

1253
01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:03,360
Speaker 1: with that concussion. Now, Mills, I would mention I believe

1254
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:06,400
Speaker 1: suffered some sort of a setback because he was limited

1255
01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:09,400
Speaker 1: in practice on Wednesday and Thursday last week, then a

1256
01:07:09,520 --> 01:07:12,520
Speaker 1: DMP on Friday then ruled out for the game, and

1257
01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:15,000
Speaker 1: that's just a vibe I got was that he was

1258
01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:21,280
Speaker 1: tracking towards coming back and then practice in Arizona and

1259
01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:23,720
Speaker 1: clearly hit some sort of a setback. So that's not

1260
01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:25,800
Speaker 1: great news for the Patriots. Is there any chance just

1261
01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:28,080
Speaker 1: because you didn't see him that he might end up

1262
01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:31,360
Speaker 1: being out there? There's a chance, But on the estimated

1263
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:33,760
Speaker 1: injury report yesterday, he would have been a DNP if

1264
01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:38,080
Speaker 1: they had had practiced on Tuesday and then and then

1265
01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:41,400
Speaker 1: today he's not out there, So okay, I don't know. Well,

1266
01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:44,040
Speaker 1: we'll wait and see. They always do some some things

1267
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:46,480
Speaker 1: every once in a while with the injury report and

1268
01:07:46,600 --> 01:07:50,720
Speaker 1: practice and whatnot. But we'll see, I will I'm not

1269
01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:53,400
Speaker 1: trying to make this too big of a deal, but

1270
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:56,680
Speaker 1: Jake Bailey being back, I actually think is a factor,

1271
01:07:57,360 --> 01:08:00,760
Speaker 1: especially for a team that just needs every yard it

1272
01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:04,160
Speaker 1: can get on a football field right now, kickoffs have

1273
01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:08,040
Speaker 1: been a huge problem, and every single time they've kicked

1274
01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:10,960
Speaker 1: off over the last month that Bailey has been out,

1275
01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:13,880
Speaker 1: I'm holding my breath right Oh God, like this is good.

1276
01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:16,720
Speaker 1: And they did give up one against Minnesota where he

1277
01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:18,559
Speaker 1: returned it for a touchdown and they end up losing

1278
01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:20,840
Speaker 1: that game by a touchdown, and that's a huge play

1279
01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:23,800
Speaker 1: in the game. So I think Bailey being back, his

1280
01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:26,360
Speaker 1: touchback rate is over sixty percent. The guys that they

1281
01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:28,639
Speaker 1: have now can't even reach the end zone, I think

1282
01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:31,000
Speaker 1: is a really a big thing I do. And I

1283
01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:32,680
Speaker 1: also wonder how big of a thing it is for

1284
01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:35,439
Speaker 1: Nick Folk to have his holder back as well. Not

1285
01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:38,760
Speaker 1: that Folk has been terrible or anything, but that consistency

1286
01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:41,439
Speaker 1: too coming back as well, I think as a factor

1287
01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:44,559
Speaker 1: here too, especially like I said, for a team, every point,

1288
01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:47,599
Speaker 1: every hidden yard, all of that stuff matters right now

1289
01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:52,360
Speaker 1: for the Patriots. So there's no one that played last

1290
01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:55,439
Speaker 1: game that's out correct, That's that's some good news. No

1291
01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 1: new injuries. So Damon Harris was out there, Jack Joe

1292
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:03,040
Speaker 1: Owns was out there, and everybody else that participated in

1293
01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:05,439
Speaker 1: the game on Sunday. Those two obviously didn't but everybody

1294
01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:09,280
Speaker 1: else was out there. Okay, all right? Um outdoors lower

1295
01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:14,479
Speaker 1: practice field? Lower? Yeah? Lower? Is the mood different when

1296
01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:17,479
Speaker 1: they moved to the lower field at all? With the players?

1297
01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:20,880
Speaker 1: I like the lower field personally. The players I think

1298
01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:24,400
Speaker 1: could care less. But it's much easier to see at

1299
01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:26,960
Speaker 1: the lower field than it is at the training camp

1300
01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:30,320
Speaker 1: fields when you're taking attendance and stuff like that. It's

1301
01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:33,280
Speaker 1: much easier to get a scope of the land on

1302
01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:35,400
Speaker 1: the lower fields because the players are literally right in

1303
01:09:35,479 --> 01:09:38,240
Speaker 1: front of you, right. I posted a picture on Twitter

1304
01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:40,960
Speaker 1: where you can see the defensive linemen and linebackers are

1305
01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:44,400
Speaker 1: probably ten feet from me as they're stretching. So it's

1306
01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:46,920
Speaker 1: much easier. So the mood of the media would have

1307
01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:49,519
Speaker 1: been up, Yeah, I like lower field. That's that's my

1308
01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:53,880
Speaker 1: that's my preference. Not for training camp though, because we

1309
01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:56,719
Speaker 1: have the hill. Right in the hill is key because

1310
01:09:56,760 --> 01:09:59,720
Speaker 1: you get the higher vantage point where I have been

1311
01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:02,439
Speaker 1: at some practices for camp on the lower field and

1312
01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:05,160
Speaker 1: you can't see anything. It's like in Vegas, as Mike remembers,

1313
01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:09,240
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Vegas, Yes, brutal. I didn't see anything.

1314
01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:11,360
Speaker 1: Three fields, like all you got with the one in

1315
01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:15,760
Speaker 1: front of the other. Pads today, I believe, so, yes, yeah, pads.

1316
01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:19,160
Speaker 1: They've been doing uppers and then like knee braces on

1317
01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:21,719
Speaker 1: the lowers, and so I think that that's their version,

1318
01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:25,320
Speaker 1: the NFL's version, I would say, of padded practices in

1319
01:10:25,400 --> 01:10:29,479
Speaker 1: week sixteen, okay, yeah, all right, all right, anything else

1320
01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:33,200
Speaker 1: that you want to let us know. No, I did

1321
01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:35,599
Speaker 1: speak to Bill or if not personally, but we did

1322
01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:40,080
Speaker 1: hear from Bill. Yeah, we bugged out. We started we

1323
01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:42,080
Speaker 1: went to Bill Live and he was going over the

1324
01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:45,960
Speaker 1: Cincinnati scouting, so we we bugged out anything after the

1325
01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:49,799
Speaker 1: first ten minutes. Yeah, I think that what was interesting

1326
01:10:50,040 --> 01:10:52,240
Speaker 1: is and I brought this up yesterday and I'm going

1327
01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:54,320
Speaker 1: to keep bringing it up because it's it's bugging me.

1328
01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:56,840
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie is that every single time now

1329
01:10:57,439 --> 01:11:02,160
Speaker 1: anybody has a real question, not just oh Bill, what

1330
01:11:02,240 --> 01:11:04,600
Speaker 1: do you think of DJ Reader? Or Oh Bill, you

1331
01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:07,080
Speaker 1: know what, what's your opinion on you know, Franco Harris

1332
01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:09,040
Speaker 1: is passing rip by the way. But I'm just saying,

1333
01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:12,479
Speaker 1: you know anything, that's it though, because I don't know

1334
01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:15,240
Speaker 1: that's a different day, not on the day, the time,

1335
01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:21,320
Speaker 1: off air, on air stuff. You you So, anytime anybody

1336
01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:23,920
Speaker 1: asked him any sort of real question, it's it's the

1337
01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:27,439
Speaker 1: same thing, right, It's the classic Bill deflection or you know,

1338
01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:30,880
Speaker 1: non answer or whatever. And it's like I'm not asking

1339
01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:33,840
Speaker 1: him to to change his stripes, right, Like I know

1340
01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:36,040
Speaker 1: it's Bill Belichick. We know we're not going to get

1341
01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:38,120
Speaker 1: much out of him, but when you come off a

1342
01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:40,920
Speaker 1: loss like that and you come on and your season

1343
01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:43,479
Speaker 1: is going down the tubes like it is, like, I

1344
01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:47,520
Speaker 1: just wish that there was a little bit more accountability,

1345
01:11:48,120 --> 01:11:51,639
Speaker 1: That's all. So did guys eventually ask about last game today?

1346
01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:55,960
Speaker 1: Some people ask, you know, Mike Reas asked, what's the

1347
01:11:56,600 --> 01:11:58,960
Speaker 1: what's the vibe like of the players and how you

1348
01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:03,600
Speaker 1: guys kind of as a team overcoming what happened at

1349
01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:05,720
Speaker 1: the end of last game and trying to put that

1350
01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:10,320
Speaker 1: behind you, And he just said, basically, we're onto Cincinnati again. Well,

1351
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:12,559
Speaker 1: that's what my question would have been. Is there any

1352
01:12:13,040 --> 01:12:16,559
Speaker 1: analogy to be drawn from like how you guys felt

1353
01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:19,280
Speaker 1: after that fourteen loss in Kansas City and how you

1354
01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:22,240
Speaker 1: moved on to this week? You know, I think it's

1355
01:12:22,320 --> 01:12:25,160
Speaker 1: more akin to the Miami miracle, probably just because of

1356
01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:27,840
Speaker 1: the way that the game ended. Yeah, but I think

1357
01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:31,360
Speaker 1: his point was just that we're we're not even we're

1358
01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:32,880
Speaker 1: turning the page, we're not even thinking about that. But

1359
01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:34,680
Speaker 1: it's human nature to think about it, like we're all

1360
01:12:34,680 --> 01:12:37,320
Speaker 1: still thinking about it, Like I'm sure all everybody in

1361
01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:40,679
Speaker 1: that locker room is still thinking about it in some respect,

1362
01:12:40,880 --> 01:12:43,400
Speaker 1: Like it's that's just human nature. Want to tell Evan

1363
01:12:43,479 --> 01:12:47,320
Speaker 1: about our revelation. Yeah, well yeah, that's the back We're

1364
01:12:47,320 --> 01:12:50,240
Speaker 1: onto Cincinnati hoodie that Bill was wearing it the interesting So,

1365
01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:53,000
Speaker 1: I mean he's certainly he's pulling out all the stops.

1366
01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:54,640
Speaker 1: You said, a team that needs everything they can get,

1367
01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:56,880
Speaker 1: he's he's dipping into the hoodie database to get really,

1368
01:12:57,200 --> 01:12:58,880
Speaker 1: but you're a good teammate. That was that was well

1369
01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:03,519
Speaker 1: done right there. I like it so here like the

1370
01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:09,960
Speaker 1: whole like the devastation of the loss thing, Like if

1371
01:13:10,040 --> 01:13:13,479
Speaker 1: they were let's say that the same thing happened to them,

1372
01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:16,519
Speaker 1: but you know, it dropped them from it dropped until

1373
01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:21,360
Speaker 1: eleven and three, Like, it's not even a factor. It's

1374
01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:24,519
Speaker 1: a factor because of the desperation that it well, the

1375
01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:26,600
Speaker 1: opportunity that was there in front of them. You know,

1376
01:13:26,720 --> 01:13:29,040
Speaker 1: it puts them now in a situation where they basically,

1377
01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:32,439
Speaker 1: not theoretically, but basically have to win all three games,

1378
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:35,200
Speaker 1: and all three games that they're gonna be underdogs in

1379
01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:41,800
Speaker 1: most likely, and on top of that, the bizarre nature

1380
01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:44,240
Speaker 1: of the loss, Like it's it's not just the bizarre

1381
01:13:44,360 --> 01:13:46,519
Speaker 1: nature of the loss, it's the situation. But Paul, in

1382
01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:49,559
Speaker 1: that scenario eleven and three. They would have been playing well,

1383
01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:51,400
Speaker 1: they would have been winning games. It would have won

1384
01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:54,439
Speaker 1: some of those games, right, you know. And this season though,

1385
01:13:54,960 --> 01:14:01,240
Speaker 1: it's it's different because on sad Saturday, I'm not gonna

1386
01:14:01,240 --> 01:14:03,519
Speaker 1: say it's because of the devastating loss. I'm gonna say

1387
01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:05,880
Speaker 1: that's the way they played Sunday. It's the way they

1388
01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:08,040
Speaker 1: played the previous Monday. It was the way they played

1389
01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:10,880
Speaker 1: the previous Thursday. We've kind of got a pattern going

1390
01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:14,000
Speaker 1: here offense. However, if they pull out a win, you

1391
01:14:14,160 --> 01:14:18,360
Speaker 1: will say, Okay, they rallied, they rallied. After that, I'm

1392
01:14:18,360 --> 01:14:21,639
Speaker 1: sure you will. Well, what what else can you say? Well,

1393
01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:23,320
Speaker 1: I want to watch the game, and I'll tell you

1394
01:14:23,400 --> 01:14:26,600
Speaker 1: what I said. Okay, Like I know, like against Minnesota,

1395
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:30,560
Speaker 1: I would say, yeah, there was office today thinking Cincinnati

1396
01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:33,280
Speaker 1: completely gave you the game. No, no, no, I'm not

1397
01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:35,600
Speaker 1: gonna say that either. I didn't see it. But I

1398
01:14:35,880 --> 01:14:38,960
Speaker 1: think they just play well and they win and they

1399
01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:42,719
Speaker 1: beat Cincinnati, then that'd be good. Then. You know, coming

1400
01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:45,040
Speaker 1: off that loss, you say, okay, they're still listening to

1401
01:14:45,120 --> 01:14:47,800
Speaker 1: their coach. They rallied, right, But would you say that

1402
01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:51,280
Speaker 1: if it was like what the Raiders did on Sunday. No,

1403
01:14:51,439 --> 01:14:54,080
Speaker 1: I Cincinnati plays like the Raiders did on Sunday and

1404
01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:56,360
Speaker 1: the Patriots find a way to win the game. Right, Yeah,

1405
01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:59,320
Speaker 1: it's great that they were alive. That's the bottom line.

1406
01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:01,720
Speaker 1: I don't care about style points, but but Raiders have

1407
01:15:01,800 --> 01:15:04,639
Speaker 1: been doing that all season, like Evan and exactly, Evan

1408
01:15:04,720 --> 01:15:08,200
Speaker 1: and I talked about Minnesota. Yeah, we saw something different

1409
01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:11,240
Speaker 1: that day. Unfortunately haven't seen it since. But like that

1410
01:15:11,360 --> 01:15:13,439
Speaker 1: was a bad past defense that they made look like

1411
01:15:13,479 --> 01:15:16,600
Speaker 1: a bad past defense, right. I think the difference is

1412
01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:21,320
Speaker 1: between letting go of the rope and that that is

1413
01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:23,880
Speaker 1: it to me? Right, It's like, how what's their compete

1414
01:15:23,960 --> 01:15:27,080
Speaker 1: level on Saturday? If they look like the same team

1415
01:15:27,160 --> 01:15:28,760
Speaker 1: that they've looked like all year and lose to the

1416
01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:31,840
Speaker 1: Bengals because of all the reasons that they've lost all

1417
01:15:31,840 --> 01:15:33,599
Speaker 1: these games this year, that I'm gonna say, well, it's

1418
01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:37,479
Speaker 1: just it's but that the people on my shows, as

1419
01:15:37,560 --> 01:15:40,000
Speaker 1: Fred likes to say, we'll say that, well they just quit,

1420
01:15:40,120 --> 01:15:42,240
Speaker 1: they gave up, and I'll say, no, no, this is

1421
01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:44,479
Speaker 1: who they've played all yet if they get blown out

1422
01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:46,760
Speaker 1: by the Bengals and they gave up, right, That's why

1423
01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:48,280
Speaker 1: I like to say I'd like to see the game

1424
01:15:48,360 --> 01:15:50,880
Speaker 1: before I tell you what it means after the game. Yeah,

1425
01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:52,519
Speaker 1: that's why. I just think there's something new too, and

1426
01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:57,120
Speaker 1: like modern social media, that this has permeated every bit

1427
01:15:57,280 --> 01:16:00,240
Speaker 1: of culture and news right now and it's embarrassed sing

1428
01:16:00,360 --> 01:16:04,000
Speaker 1: And I just I wonder what twenty something athletes, like

1429
01:16:04,120 --> 01:16:07,560
Speaker 1: these guys who are very image conscious, what effect that

1430
01:16:07,680 --> 01:16:09,640
Speaker 1: has had on some of these guys, as you know,

1431
01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:11,519
Speaker 1: not just it's one thing when the Patriots lose and

1432
01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:13,680
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, the Patriots aren't the same, but this

1433
01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:16,400
Speaker 1: is something different where it just feels like an embarrassing loss.

1434
01:16:16,439 --> 01:16:18,800
Speaker 1: And that's why I just I wonder if this is

1435
01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:20,680
Speaker 1: a little bit different this time in terms of what

1436
01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:23,519
Speaker 1: impact it could possibly have if that makes sense with

1437
01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:25,920
Speaker 1: the way things are they going to tocktail or are

1438
01:16:25,920 --> 01:16:27,439
Speaker 1: they gonna I mean, in the past, of this happened

1439
01:16:27,479 --> 01:16:29,640
Speaker 1: in the nineties, there'd be some newspaper articles about how

1440
01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:31,880
Speaker 1: the game ended. You'd have an NFL film's footage that

1441
01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:34,599
Speaker 1: you would eventually get unearthed. But you know, now it's

1442
01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:40,640
Speaker 1: like Twitter, TikTok, Instagram. Everything is about how ridiculous the

1443
01:16:40,680 --> 01:16:44,519
Speaker 1: Patriots looked and what a bad play that was about Patricia.

1444
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:46,519
Speaker 1: That's all I see you on every like on my

1445
01:16:46,640 --> 01:16:51,080
Speaker 1: shows again, Like it's that whole drama, like that soap

1446
01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:56,160
Speaker 1: opera of will Bill be forced or will will will

1447
01:16:56,280 --> 01:16:59,200
Speaker 1: Bill want to make a change, you know, And then

1448
01:16:59,479 --> 01:17:02,200
Speaker 1: what we talk up before you got here ev some

1449
01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:05,320
Speaker 1: of the national stuff with like Florio sort of suggesting

1450
01:17:05,439 --> 01:17:07,880
Speaker 1: that because you know, maybe this is like kind of

1451
01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:11,000
Speaker 1: the groundwork for moving on and do they you know,

1452
01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:13,320
Speaker 1: maybe try to get trade them. Yeah, because to be fair, like,

1453
01:17:13,439 --> 01:17:15,479
Speaker 1: let's just say that that is what I'm hearing. Let's

1454
01:17:15,479 --> 01:17:17,759
Speaker 1: just say that crazy play at the end didn't happen

1455
01:17:18,040 --> 01:17:20,240
Speaker 1: and the Patriots won the game in overtime. Let's just

1456
01:17:20,320 --> 01:17:23,120
Speaker 1: say that you'd still be saying this offense doesn't look right.

1457
01:17:23,640 --> 01:17:25,720
Speaker 1: You'd have to right, oh yeah, oh yeah. I mean

1458
01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:27,800
Speaker 1: you're probably be talking more about it, because yeah, it

1459
01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:30,120
Speaker 1: wasn't overshadowed by that last year. And I net, like

1460
01:17:30,160 --> 01:17:32,599
Speaker 1: I say, I never like eliminated. I've seen too many

1461
01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:36,040
Speaker 1: things with Belichick teams for twenty I tried really hard

1462
01:17:36,080 --> 01:17:38,799
Speaker 1: to say there is a zero percent chance of ex happening.

1463
01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:42,519
Speaker 1: I do not expect them to tuck tail. I expect

1464
01:17:42,560 --> 01:17:45,519
Speaker 1: what Evan kind of described kind of a continuation of

1465
01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:49,000
Speaker 1: the listless football that they've played for fourteen weeks. Yeah,

1466
01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:51,800
Speaker 1: that to me will not necessarily be an like an

1467
01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:54,840
Speaker 1: indication that they've quit. I think that's what they are,

1468
01:17:56,320 --> 01:17:58,120
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like and I do, and

1469
01:17:58,240 --> 01:18:00,800
Speaker 1: I know it like I It won't be felger Mans

1470
01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:03,040
Speaker 1: because they're not in, but I know that will be

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01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:06,000
Speaker 1: the storyline on talk radio? Was there Adam? Well, you know,

1472
01:18:06,120 --> 01:18:08,479
Speaker 1: they lost the game, and clearly they just started to

1473
01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:10,519
Speaker 1: pack it in and like, you know, and maybe that

1474
01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:13,960
Speaker 1: will be true. I will not necessarily take it that way,

1475
01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:16,320
Speaker 1: and I don't expect them to. I expect the effort

1476
01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:17,880
Speaker 1: to be the same as it's been every other week.

1477
01:18:19,640 --> 01:18:22,240
Speaker 1: All right, let's get back to the phones. They're stacked

1478
01:18:22,320 --> 01:18:28,120
Speaker 1: up here. We'll go to Morgan in Vermont. What's up Morgan? Morgan?

1479
01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:33,639
Speaker 1: Moregan Chuck had good sci fi movie. By the way,

1480
01:18:33,640 --> 01:18:41,280
Speaker 1: if you're yeah with Mike, didn't. Eduardo's in California? What's

1481
01:18:41,360 --> 01:18:48,639
Speaker 1: up in Eduardo? Eduardo? I'm not blaming it on Hardy anymore.

1482
01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:51,960
Speaker 1: This is a Fred issue. I mean, Todd's in Canada.

1483
01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:56,240
Speaker 1: What's up Todd? Yeah? Are you back? Are you back

1484
01:18:56,280 --> 01:19:04,200
Speaker 1: in the homeland. I'm I'm gonna say this time. Are

1485
01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:08,160
Speaker 1: you there permanently? Are you visiting? Just visiting? So I

1486
01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:11,040
Speaker 1: pretty impressed by the price of everything here, even though

1487
01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:15,559
Speaker 1: it's in Canadian dollars, it's pretty darn cheap. So okay, Canada,

1488
01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:18,360
Speaker 1: It's nice to see it. Now. My big thing here

1489
01:19:18,520 --> 01:19:21,280
Speaker 1: is this, this season started out going sideway when we

1490
01:19:21,400 --> 01:19:24,160
Speaker 1: saw that the offense, which we thought going into even

1491
01:19:24,200 --> 01:19:27,040
Speaker 1: the preseason, was going to be something that was countable,

1492
01:19:27,080 --> 01:19:30,040
Speaker 1: and the defense was kind of supposed to be in

1493
01:19:30,080 --> 01:19:32,439
Speaker 1: the progress, and it seems to have progressed. It's just

1494
01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:34,920
Speaker 1: it seems like this something is just wrong. Like if

1495
01:19:35,120 --> 01:19:37,840
Speaker 1: if the coach has actually called that play for the

1496
01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:40,759
Speaker 1: last play, they didn't back even in there. They should

1497
01:19:40,760 --> 01:19:42,640
Speaker 1: be doing the wildcat or something like, why have them

1498
01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:44,960
Speaker 1: on the fielding the liability? And yeah, sure enough it

1499
01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:47,720
Speaker 1: turned out. It just something feels wrong with this whole year,

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01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:50,000
Speaker 1: the way that they've developed the team, the way they

1501
01:19:50,080 --> 01:19:52,680
Speaker 1: set stuff up, the coaching. Yeah, I don't know, I

1502
01:19:52,720 --> 01:19:55,640
Speaker 1: can't put my finger exactly what I feel about it.

1503
01:19:55,680 --> 01:19:58,080
Speaker 1: It's just something's off. Oh yeah, do you guys get

1504
01:19:58,120 --> 01:20:01,240
Speaker 1: the same feeling like they're not there. The compete's not there.

1505
01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:06,600
Speaker 1: I disagree with the compete's not there, but I do

1506
01:20:06,720 --> 01:20:10,839
Speaker 1: agree that something's off. You're not what compete not there anymore,

1507
01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:14,080
Speaker 1: especially with Mac. I think Max's broken. Well, I think

1508
01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:16,280
Speaker 1: he's trying to compete. I mean, I think Mac broke

1509
01:20:16,360 --> 01:20:20,679
Speaker 1: the coach. Yeah uh yeah, but but something is definitely off. Again,

1510
01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:24,400
Speaker 1: I say, we're not watching a typical NFL offense. Like

1511
01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:27,679
Speaker 1: they just can't do the things that a normal offense

1512
01:20:27,800 --> 01:20:30,800
Speaker 1: can do, you know, at any level. You know, they

1513
01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:33,719
Speaker 1: can run the ball pretty well, but they they're passing

1514
01:20:33,840 --> 01:20:37,160
Speaker 1: offense is not an NFL passing offense. No, it's not

1515
01:20:37,360 --> 01:20:41,879
Speaker 1: on film even resembling an NFL I mean, you're sometimes

1516
01:20:41,920 --> 01:20:43,840
Speaker 1: I watch this offense on tape and I'm like, what

1517
01:20:44,160 --> 01:20:47,200
Speaker 1: is the route combination? Like, because there's guys on top

1518
01:20:47,280 --> 01:20:49,600
Speaker 1: of each other and then there's you know, guys that

1519
01:20:49,680 --> 01:20:52,080
Speaker 1: are some guys are running like a quick game concept

1520
01:20:52,120 --> 01:20:54,160
Speaker 1: and other guys are running verticals, And I'm like, what

1521
01:20:54,880 --> 01:20:57,080
Speaker 1: either is this the design of the play or are

1522
01:20:57,160 --> 01:20:59,800
Speaker 1: the players just not running the design properly? Or what

1523
01:21:00,160 --> 01:21:02,680
Speaker 1: going on? But this doesn't even look like and you're

1524
01:21:02,680 --> 01:21:05,200
Speaker 1: wondering why you know, and like I go back to

1525
01:21:05,280 --> 01:21:07,800
Speaker 1: when Parcels was here, and you know, back then, like

1526
01:21:08,040 --> 01:21:10,960
Speaker 1: I'd get information after the fact and so many times

1527
01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:13,680
Speaker 1: like you think you knew what was a reason why,

1528
01:21:14,120 --> 01:21:16,360
Speaker 1: and then you'd find out what actually and you'd be like, oh,

1529
01:21:16,439 --> 01:21:19,519
Speaker 1: I never thought of that, you know. So this season

1530
01:21:19,680 --> 01:21:21,760
Speaker 1: it's the same thing. But the only problem is we're

1531
01:21:21,800 --> 01:21:25,000
Speaker 1: probably never going to find out, you know. But it

1532
01:21:25,080 --> 01:21:27,080
Speaker 1: could be anything. It could be like Mac is like

1533
01:21:27,280 --> 01:21:31,040
Speaker 1: calling things out at the line wrong and confusing that

1534
01:21:31,320 --> 01:21:34,720
Speaker 1: it could be things like that happening. Yeah. Well but

1535
01:21:34,760 --> 01:21:36,560
Speaker 1: if Mac is doing that, well why don't we go

1536
01:21:36,600 --> 01:21:38,559
Speaker 1: back to Zappy? It makes no sense to keep him

1537
01:21:38,560 --> 01:21:40,439
Speaker 1: in there. If he's so broken that he's not even

1538
01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:43,559
Speaker 1: reading the field and being able to do an analysis

1539
01:21:43,600 --> 01:21:46,439
Speaker 1: of the defense and call the right audibles, then why

1540
01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:48,960
Speaker 1: is he there? Like he needs to be fixed, and

1541
01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:50,840
Speaker 1: he might not be putting on the field might not

1542
01:21:50,840 --> 01:21:52,760
Speaker 1: be fixing him. It might be making it worse. Yeah,

1543
01:21:52,920 --> 01:21:55,720
Speaker 1: I don't actually think that that's what it isn't. I know.

1544
01:21:55,800 --> 01:21:58,200
Speaker 1: I come off as a Mac defender a lot, but

1545
01:21:59,080 --> 01:22:01,560
Speaker 1: I think that maybe I think the main thing that

1546
01:22:01,640 --> 01:22:05,240
Speaker 1: I see with Max frustrations it's like, let's go to

1547
01:22:05,320 --> 01:22:09,599
Speaker 1: the red zone sequence, right, it's third down and there's

1548
01:22:09,640 --> 01:22:12,040
Speaker 1: some sort of confusion on the sideline about the play

1549
01:22:12,200 --> 01:22:15,200
Speaker 1: or somebody's not line up properly and they call time

1550
01:22:15,240 --> 01:22:18,360
Speaker 1: out and it wipes out a touchdown. And my read

1551
01:22:18,439 --> 01:22:21,360
Speaker 1: of max reaction was like, now what, Like, now, what's

1552
01:22:21,400 --> 01:22:25,839
Speaker 1: the problem? Now? Like we ran a play, it worked,

1553
01:22:26,040 --> 01:22:28,479
Speaker 1: I threw a touchdown to Jacobe, and I have to

1554
01:22:28,560 --> 01:22:30,640
Speaker 1: turn over and go back to the sideline to you

1555
01:22:30,760 --> 01:22:34,439
Speaker 1: guys because somebody was off on their alignment by one yard,

1556
01:22:35,080 --> 01:22:38,200
Speaker 1: Like what? And look, I think from a big picture standpoint,

1557
01:22:38,520 --> 01:22:41,120
Speaker 1: these things should not be happening in week fifteen. That's

1558
01:22:41,160 --> 01:22:44,679
Speaker 1: totally fair, And these are things that should be ironed

1559
01:22:44,680 --> 01:22:47,320
Speaker 1: out in training camp, let alone in week fifteen of

1560
01:22:47,400 --> 01:22:50,040
Speaker 1: the season. But sometimes you just have to let the

1561
01:22:50,120 --> 01:22:52,880
Speaker 1: players play, Like sometimes you need to back off and

1562
01:22:53,040 --> 01:22:55,599
Speaker 1: just let the players play. And I think where Mac

1563
01:22:55,640 --> 01:22:58,920
Speaker 1: gets frustrated in Arizona when he was waving off because

1564
01:22:58,960 --> 01:23:01,000
Speaker 1: they're in the two minutes. Drin Patrici is trying to

1565
01:23:01,040 --> 01:23:03,120
Speaker 1: call plays into her is here and he's like, we

1566
01:23:03,320 --> 01:23:05,920
Speaker 1: have this scripted already, Like this is like I know

1567
01:23:06,040 --> 01:23:10,719
Speaker 1: what we're supposed to be doing back off. I called

1568
01:23:10,760 --> 01:23:13,080
Speaker 1: for a win here and I really actually thought we

1569
01:23:13,160 --> 01:23:15,720
Speaker 1: were going to get it. You almost got it, all right,

1570
01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:19,400
Speaker 1: great shows, Thank you God, Thanks Todd, Harry Chris. Happy holidays.

1571
01:23:20,400 --> 01:23:23,360
Speaker 1: Oh my good Back in Canada. I got a lot

1572
01:23:23,400 --> 01:23:25,880
Speaker 1: of emails at web radio at Patriot dot. You haven't

1573
01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:27,519
Speaker 1: ready to read because I have a quick question. Fac

1574
01:23:27,640 --> 01:23:30,880
Speaker 1: ahead back to the practice report. Um, you know, so

1575
01:23:31,120 --> 01:23:33,439
Speaker 1: Harris is back out there? Yes, how did you think

1576
01:23:33,479 --> 01:23:37,240
Speaker 1: he looked? Like? Did you? I mean yeah, I mean

1577
01:23:37,479 --> 01:23:40,479
Speaker 1: I know you won't. There's sixty five players out there. Yeah,

1578
01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:42,920
Speaker 1: maybe you didn't. You know you're thirty seven? Check, Like,

1579
01:23:43,520 --> 01:23:45,960
Speaker 1: so you didn't really notice? No, not much. I just

1580
01:23:46,120 --> 01:23:48,960
Speaker 1: I'm kind of curious because, like we talked about the

1581
01:23:49,040 --> 01:23:52,439
Speaker 1: whole letting go of the rope thing, and I think

1582
01:23:52,520 --> 01:23:55,519
Speaker 1: Evans Jalen Mills thing is right on. I think that

1583
01:23:56,120 --> 01:24:00,960
Speaker 1: you hypothetical makes perfect sense to me, Like was limited

1584
01:24:01,120 --> 01:24:04,400
Speaker 1: limited then all of a sudden back to DNP and

1585
01:24:04,600 --> 01:24:09,120
Speaker 1: and listed as out on Friday. Um, so my guess

1586
01:24:09,160 --> 01:24:13,479
Speaker 1: is he didn't get a setback. I am you know

1587
01:24:13,880 --> 01:24:15,920
Speaker 1: he got a thigh injury and this is did he

1588
01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:20,120
Speaker 1: missed three? Now? Damon Harris three injury three games? Would

1589
01:24:20,160 --> 01:24:25,479
Speaker 1: this be the third? Would be? Okay? So pending free

1590
01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:31,200
Speaker 1: agent don't want to play at less than one hundred percent. Yeah,

1591
01:24:31,360 --> 01:24:35,400
Speaker 1: it's same thing. Yeah, Isaiah Win, I think has left

1592
01:24:35,439 --> 01:24:38,559
Speaker 1: the reservation. But that that's the kinds of the guy.

1593
01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:40,639
Speaker 1: You know. These are the guys that I talk about

1594
01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:43,880
Speaker 1: with you all the time. Now. In fairness, we usually

1595
01:24:43,920 --> 01:24:45,880
Speaker 1: have a chuckle about it because we're talking about like

1596
01:24:45,960 --> 01:24:49,120
Speaker 1: the Colts or somebody else who's you know, out of

1597
01:24:49,439 --> 01:24:53,439
Speaker 1: playoff contention and watch them scurry to the life rafts

1598
01:24:53,600 --> 01:24:56,599
Speaker 1: and you know they're on IR. They're banged up because

1599
01:24:56,720 --> 01:24:59,519
Speaker 1: they don't want to go into the off season banged up,

1600
01:25:00,120 --> 01:25:03,320
Speaker 1: worst needing surgery or whatever. I don't know what Damian

1601
01:25:03,360 --> 01:25:05,400
Speaker 1: Harris's situation is, but I do know he's a penning

1602
01:25:05,439 --> 01:25:07,720
Speaker 1: free agent and it makes me wonder. Yeah, and he

1603
01:25:07,760 --> 01:25:09,840
Speaker 1: makes me wonder. It was four games now, so so

1604
01:25:09,960 --> 01:25:11,720
Speaker 1: now it's like an IR issue of why didn't we

1605
01:25:11,800 --> 01:25:16,639
Speaker 1: just shut him down? But I mean, only Win missed

1606
01:25:16,680 --> 01:25:18,800
Speaker 1: three games then they put him on IR. So I

1607
01:25:19,160 --> 01:25:21,880
Speaker 1: from what I understand about David David Harris is injured

1608
01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:25,439
Speaker 1: during the Minnesota game on Thanksgiving and it's a contusion, right,

1609
01:25:25,439 --> 01:25:30,200
Speaker 1: it's a thigh bruise essentially, So that's a totally I

1610
01:25:30,320 --> 01:25:32,080
Speaker 1: could see how that could be a week to week

1611
01:25:32,240 --> 01:25:34,920
Speaker 1: injury and just how does it respond and when he

1612
01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:37,120
Speaker 1: gets out there and he practices, how does it respond

1613
01:25:37,160 --> 01:25:40,240
Speaker 1: to practice and things like that. I can see why

1614
01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:42,720
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people always jumped, oh well,

1615
01:25:42,760 --> 01:25:44,840
Speaker 1: why didn't we just put him on IR right away?

1616
01:25:45,280 --> 01:25:47,920
Speaker 1: And it's because sometimes it's not like it's a boken

1617
01:25:48,000 --> 01:25:50,800
Speaker 1: bron or torn acl where it's like he's done right.

1618
01:25:50,960 --> 01:25:53,320
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm not blaming the team, no, And I'm

1619
01:25:53,320 --> 01:25:54,920
Speaker 1: not blaming the team at all. I think the team

1620
01:25:55,000 --> 01:25:57,639
Speaker 1: probably expected him to be back. I mean, I would

1621
01:25:57,640 --> 01:25:59,240
Speaker 1: just say to a guy who's going to be a

1622
01:25:59,280 --> 01:26:01,800
Speaker 1: free agent, but it's injury issues throughout, And there's part

1623
01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:03,600
Speaker 1: of me that says, he's somebody that just needs to

1624
01:26:03,680 --> 01:26:05,600
Speaker 1: get back out there and prove that he has some

1625
01:26:05,960 --> 01:26:07,960
Speaker 1: degree of resilience, because if you're going to sign this

1626
01:26:08,040 --> 01:26:10,920
Speaker 1: guy in the offseason, you certainly can't plan on bringing

1627
01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:13,080
Speaker 1: him in. And you know we're gonna lean heavily on

1628
01:26:13,200 --> 01:26:15,000
Speaker 1: Damian harrisy. He's gonna have to have approve it year.

1629
01:26:15,080 --> 01:26:20,520
Speaker 1: Probably Jack and Anaba writes in Although I'm very disappointed

1630
01:26:20,560 --> 01:26:22,760
Speaker 1: with the performance of the Patriots this season, and I

1631
01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:26,400
Speaker 1: hold Belichick accountable for fixing the problems with this team,

1632
01:26:26,760 --> 01:26:30,720
Speaker 1: I have not, for one instant wanted Belichick gone. It's ridiculous.

1633
01:26:31,479 --> 01:26:34,120
Speaker 1: That's what I agree with everything about that email, except

1634
01:26:34,120 --> 01:26:37,400
Speaker 1: for the last two words ridiculous. It's ridiculous. It's not

1635
01:26:37,600 --> 01:26:41,680
Speaker 1: ridiculous if you think about it, It's not ridiculous. The

1636
01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:45,160
Speaker 1: rest of the email on board with. I think that

1637
01:26:45,280 --> 01:26:48,120
Speaker 1: he's responsible for what's going on on offense, and I

1638
01:26:48,160 --> 01:26:49,840
Speaker 1: don't want to make a change. I don't think there's

1639
01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:52,200
Speaker 1: anything wrong with that. But I also don't think if

1640
01:26:52,240 --> 01:26:54,080
Speaker 1: Evan you think differently and they think and you think

1641
01:26:54,120 --> 01:26:56,400
Speaker 1: Sean Payton would be better, and you think you want

1642
01:26:56,400 --> 01:26:58,240
Speaker 1: to go in that direct, I don't think that's ridiculous.

1643
01:26:58,479 --> 01:27:00,320
Speaker 1: If you don't, I mean, at what point would you

1644
01:27:00,439 --> 01:27:03,160
Speaker 1: think it isn't ridiculous? Like what more? What more he

1645
01:27:03,240 --> 01:27:05,040
Speaker 1: needs to I really think there is And I'm not

1646
01:27:05,120 --> 01:27:07,920
Speaker 1: picking on this particular emailer or the SPFW guy that

1647
01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:11,680
Speaker 1: you and I keep referencing that finger wagged us um.

1648
01:27:13,160 --> 01:27:15,040
Speaker 1: I don't think there's anything that could happen because he

1649
01:27:15,120 --> 01:27:21,080
Speaker 1: won six titles. Yeah, and you know Doula, you know,

1650
01:27:21,320 --> 01:27:24,560
Speaker 1: one a million games and one of Super Bowls and

1651
01:27:24,680 --> 01:27:27,400
Speaker 1: then didn't win anything with Dan Marino. And how many

1652
01:27:27,479 --> 01:27:29,960
Speaker 1: years did they they go on with that, And I'm

1653
01:27:30,000 --> 01:27:33,080
Speaker 1: not telling you don Shula stinks, right. Is obviously one

1654
01:27:33,120 --> 01:27:37,120
Speaker 1: of the greatest coaches of all time. I would concur

1655
01:27:37,240 --> 01:27:40,880
Speaker 1: with your overrated nature. I liked the snark. He's coming around,

1656
01:27:41,000 --> 01:27:45,160
Speaker 1: Mike Evan is coming around. They thought he was he

1657
01:27:45,200 --> 01:27:46,960
Speaker 1: went to the Super Bowl one time with Dan Marines.

1658
01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:50,479
Speaker 1: I thought he was overrated period, like his whole career time,

1659
01:27:50,720 --> 01:27:52,760
Speaker 1: the entirety of his career, I thought he was great.

1660
01:27:52,960 --> 01:27:57,000
Speaker 1: He lost the I mean, never mind. Maybe that's something

1661
01:27:57,040 --> 01:27:58,920
Speaker 1: about the greatest coaches of all time. They lose in

1662
01:27:58,960 --> 01:28:01,920
Speaker 1: a situation where no one thought possible they could lose

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01:28:02,120 --> 01:28:05,400
Speaker 1: his win their Lifetime Achievement Award. So it happens when

1664
01:28:05,400 --> 01:28:08,400
Speaker 1: you coach for thirty years. Andrews in LA after hearing

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01:28:08,479 --> 01:28:11,760
Speaker 1: Bill's interview post game, I recall what Bill said before

1666
01:28:11,800 --> 01:28:13,560
Speaker 1: the season. I think it went something like, if it

1667
01:28:13,640 --> 01:28:15,800
Speaker 1: goes wrong, you can blame it on me, or something

1668
01:28:15,840 --> 01:28:19,080
Speaker 1: to that effect. Gotta be honest, that postgame interview sounded

1669
01:28:19,120 --> 01:28:21,560
Speaker 1: a whole lot like the only thing wrong was the

1670
01:28:21,600 --> 01:28:25,280
Speaker 1: players making mistakes and not executing. Sorry, Bill, I'm here

1671
01:28:25,320 --> 01:28:28,200
Speaker 1: to demand you take ownership of the Foxborough High School

1672
01:28:28,200 --> 01:28:31,599
Speaker 1: football team you coached and put together ps. I feel

1673
01:28:31,720 --> 01:28:34,640
Speaker 1: terrible for Jacoby. Hopefully he shakes it off and has

1674
01:28:34,680 --> 01:28:38,160
Speaker 1: a great career after that one hiccup. I agree with.

1675
01:28:38,280 --> 01:28:39,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I've been saying this for two days now.

1676
01:28:39,960 --> 01:28:43,280
Speaker 1: I wholeheartedly agree with the first part of that email.

1677
01:28:43,520 --> 01:28:47,280
Speaker 1: That mistakes were made on the play. Is putting it

1678
01:28:47,360 --> 01:28:49,519
Speaker 1: all on the players. Matt can't reach the end zone

1679
01:28:49,880 --> 01:28:55,200
Speaker 1: right and Fred after you left, Evan was killing. There

1680
01:28:55,320 --> 01:28:58,320
Speaker 1: was very little accountability. Hail Mary is too far from

1681
01:28:58,400 --> 01:29:01,479
Speaker 1: fifty five yards. Give me a break. Yesterday, Do we

1682
01:29:01,600 --> 01:29:04,760
Speaker 1: talk to the defensive play caller for the final drive

1683
01:29:04,800 --> 01:29:06,639
Speaker 1: of the game that the Raiders went march right down

1684
01:29:06,720 --> 01:29:10,240
Speaker 1: the field and you called vanilla defense for the entire drive? Nope?

1685
01:29:10,439 --> 01:29:13,439
Speaker 1: Did we call talk to the offensive play caller? Nope?

1686
01:29:14,520 --> 01:29:18,600
Speaker 1: Angry journalist here, Um, It's just that people want us

1687
01:29:18,640 --> 01:29:20,920
Speaker 1: to hold these guys accountable, right like they get it

1688
01:29:20,920 --> 01:29:22,880
Speaker 1: all the time on Twitter. Why aren't you asking to

1689
01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:27,760
Speaker 1: ask questions? Because I work here. If I could ask

1690
01:29:27,760 --> 01:29:31,120
Speaker 1: Steve Belichick, why you know, why did you call standard

1691
01:29:31,200 --> 01:29:33,320
Speaker 1: four man rush cover two three times in a row

1692
01:29:33,400 --> 01:29:35,400
Speaker 1: on the final drive against the Raiders and watch them

1693
01:29:35,400 --> 01:29:37,919
Speaker 1: march down the field, I would ask, But he's not available,

1694
01:29:37,960 --> 01:29:43,320
Speaker 1: so I can't ask him. Somebody writing in thanks Paul

1695
01:29:44,960 --> 01:29:47,760
Speaker 1: zach Uh. We didn't really mention this, and I don't

1696
01:29:47,800 --> 01:29:49,799
Speaker 1: know if it's a big deal, but he said. Following

1697
01:29:49,840 --> 01:29:52,600
Speaker 1: the lost Trent Brown liked an image on Instagram that

1698
01:29:52,720 --> 01:29:55,080
Speaker 1: was in regards to the pages needing to call Tom

1699
01:29:55,160 --> 01:29:57,720
Speaker 1: Brady or Jimmy g Correct. Do you think this is

1700
01:29:57,800 --> 01:30:00,639
Speaker 1: indicative of how the locker room feels about mat performance

1701
01:30:00,720 --> 01:30:03,519
Speaker 1: or rather a one off situation, Like I don't even.

1702
01:30:03,640 --> 01:30:06,559
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think Trent Brown has big fingers, yeah,

1703
01:30:07,000 --> 01:30:10,000
Speaker 1: like he likes I mean, that's not an acc I

1704
01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:13,160
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know if that's indicative of a problem. Yeah,

1705
01:30:13,200 --> 01:30:14,920
Speaker 1: I'm not going to do that, but I don't do

1706
01:30:15,040 --> 01:30:18,559
Speaker 1: the social media. I hate sometimes like something on social

1707
01:30:18,800 --> 01:30:21,280
Speaker 1: to keep it as a placeholder so that like you

1708
01:30:21,360 --> 01:30:24,040
Speaker 1: can come back to it, or gets things like that

1709
01:30:24,640 --> 01:30:28,240
Speaker 1: on your feet. You're crazy, kids, Do you do know?

1710
01:30:28,400 --> 01:30:31,320
Speaker 1: All I know is is like yesterday I happen to

1711
01:30:31,439 --> 01:30:33,479
Speaker 1: like look at the people I was following briefly, and

1712
01:30:33,520 --> 01:30:35,200
Speaker 1: I was like, why did I follow this again? You know,

1713
01:30:35,320 --> 01:30:38,519
Speaker 1: like this stuff happens, like if you're just scrolling through

1714
01:30:38,600 --> 01:30:41,320
Speaker 1: and your finger hits it and he's got gigantic hands

1715
01:30:41,400 --> 01:30:43,800
Speaker 1: and fingers. So like, I'm not telling you I've never

1716
01:30:44,000 --> 01:30:46,920
Speaker 1: liked something by accident, because I have. Sometimes you just

1717
01:30:47,040 --> 01:30:50,360
Speaker 1: like you scroll and like yeah, then you can unlike no,

1718
01:30:51,200 --> 01:30:53,720
Speaker 1: they you liked it. But sometimes you's like scrolling through

1719
01:30:53,760 --> 01:30:56,160
Speaker 1: your feet on your phone and you know your your

1720
01:30:56,240 --> 01:30:59,800
Speaker 1: thumb hits the like button by accident. I didn't like that.

1721
01:31:00,040 --> 01:31:01,880
Speaker 1: I don't think that's a I'm sorry, I don't think

1722
01:31:01,920 --> 01:31:03,640
Speaker 1: that's an accident. That's like when I'm at was it

1723
01:31:03,680 --> 01:31:05,160
Speaker 1: an accident when he said I want to go home?

1724
01:31:06,600 --> 01:31:08,840
Speaker 1: How many accidents can happen? Now, that was not an

1725
01:31:08,880 --> 01:31:11,760
Speaker 1: accident because that was a long week, man, But that

1726
01:31:12,280 --> 01:31:15,080
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it was necessarily accident. I'm just not

1727
01:31:15,200 --> 01:31:17,960
Speaker 1: going to accurate. Yeah, I'm just not gonna take the

1728
01:31:18,080 --> 01:31:20,839
Speaker 1: fact that he did that as being a huge symptom

1729
01:31:20,840 --> 01:31:22,560
Speaker 1: of a problem in the lock right, correct, Like, I

1730
01:31:22,600 --> 01:31:25,080
Speaker 1: don't know that that's that's that's I just imagining, like

1731
01:31:25,439 --> 01:31:27,120
Speaker 1: I'm mad at Paul, so I go to social media

1732
01:31:27,160 --> 01:31:29,040
Speaker 1: and find someone like saying bad stuff about Paul and

1733
01:31:29,240 --> 01:31:34,479
Speaker 1: just liking everything it liked it like, oh, no, he

1734
01:31:34,600 --> 01:31:37,080
Speaker 1: probably did that by accident. No what, No, I don't

1735
01:31:37,080 --> 01:31:39,040
Speaker 1: know Paul would I don't know, just just a tweet

1736
01:31:39,080 --> 01:31:42,479
Speaker 1: I saw pat an Agawam. One common denominator with this

1737
01:31:42,640 --> 01:31:46,360
Speaker 1: team going back from twenty nineteen till now is they've

1738
01:31:46,400 --> 01:31:50,320
Speaker 1: played like absolute crap down the stretch, especially against good opponents.

1739
01:31:51,120 --> 01:31:54,200
Speaker 1: The twenty twenty season finale against the Jets. Notwithstanding, what

1740
01:31:54,320 --> 01:31:58,200
Speaker 1: can we chalk it up to? Is it conditioning, talent, coaching, scheme, apathy,

1741
01:31:58,520 --> 01:32:02,400
Speaker 1: or a little bit of all the above. But I

1742
01:32:02,479 --> 01:32:03,680
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, I think it's one of the

1743
01:32:03,720 --> 01:32:06,160
Speaker 1: great questions because I think that's one of the tenets

1744
01:32:06,320 --> 01:32:08,840
Speaker 1: of Patriot fans, that that you came to believe over

1745
01:32:08,880 --> 01:32:11,799
Speaker 1: the dynasty of that they're gonna play their best football

1746
01:32:11,800 --> 01:32:13,360
Speaker 1: at the end, that all the work that they put

1747
01:32:13,439 --> 01:32:15,920
Speaker 1: in it's all going to come together and after Thanksgiving,

1748
01:32:16,000 --> 01:32:19,160
Speaker 1: this is going to be the team. And they haven't

1749
01:32:19,160 --> 01:32:21,840
Speaker 1: been that, yeah, you know, for I mean, they haven't

1750
01:32:21,840 --> 01:32:23,519
Speaker 1: played their best ball. I mean I know, and I

1751
01:32:23,560 --> 01:32:25,240
Speaker 1: mean Paul has a good point that you know they

1752
01:32:25,280 --> 01:32:27,040
Speaker 1: start to play good teams the last couple of years

1753
01:32:27,080 --> 01:32:29,800
Speaker 1: down the stretch, off the healthy guys problem. You know,

1754
01:32:29,840 --> 01:32:31,439
Speaker 1: when the division's gotten a lot better. So who you're

1755
01:32:31,479 --> 01:32:33,680
Speaker 1: usually playing at the end of the season. Correct the

1756
01:32:33,760 --> 01:32:35,479
Speaker 1: division you haven't been able to play instead of the

1757
01:32:35,560 --> 01:32:38,519
Speaker 1: cupcakes to end the twenty eighteen season, which was I

1758
01:32:38,600 --> 01:32:42,439
Speaker 1: believe Buffalo and the Jets. Yes, right, correct, Buffalo and

1759
01:32:42,520 --> 01:32:45,439
Speaker 1: a cupcake the last two years when you're playings anymore,

1760
01:32:45,560 --> 01:32:48,240
Speaker 1: and now this this particularly, the Jets aren't a cupcake.

1761
01:32:48,400 --> 01:32:51,120
Speaker 1: The Jets are probably your two best wins. Yeah, Tyler

1762
01:32:51,200 --> 01:32:54,479
Speaker 1: and Nadik now living in Providence has a game. I'll

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01:32:54,520 --> 01:32:58,600
Speaker 1: provide a specific stat category and two players, and you

1764
01:32:58,720 --> 01:33:01,240
Speaker 1: guess who has the higher or lower stat for twenty

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01:33:01,320 --> 01:33:04,639
Speaker 1: twenty two. All staff provided by NFL dot com. Ready

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01:33:04,760 --> 01:33:07,200
Speaker 1: thank you for some more passing touchdowns, Mac Jones or

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01:33:07,240 --> 01:33:11,679
Speaker 1: Brock Purty Purty Purty No, Mac, Mac has seven. Brock

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01:33:12,240 --> 01:33:17,080
Speaker 1: figured I figured if you were asking higher completion percentage

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01:33:17,360 --> 01:33:21,759
Speaker 1: Bailey Zappy or Gino Smith. I hate completion percentage. Horrible

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01:33:21,800 --> 01:33:25,320
Speaker 1: stat Gino Smith, Gino has seventy one point four. Zappy

1771
01:33:25,400 --> 01:33:29,160
Speaker 1: has seventy point six league right, Gino Smith? Yeah? Fun fact,

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01:33:29,200 --> 01:33:32,120
Speaker 1: these quarterbacks have the two highest completion percentages in twenty

1773
01:33:32,200 --> 01:33:34,719
Speaker 1: twenty two of any player with more than ten attempts.

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01:33:34,880 --> 01:33:39,320
Speaker 1: Irrelevant stat More rushes of twenty plus yards Romandra Stevenson

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01:33:39,400 --> 01:33:44,479
Speaker 1: or Dalvin Cook of twenty plus yep, Oh, I bet

1776
01:33:44,560 --> 01:33:48,040
Speaker 1: you that's pretty close, but I'll go Stevenson. Yeah, anyone else.

1777
01:33:50,920 --> 01:33:55,000
Speaker 1: Romandra has seven, Dalvin Cook has five. I figured that'd

1778
01:33:55,040 --> 01:33:58,120
Speaker 1: be close, right. More sacks Josh Uche or Chris Jones.

1779
01:33:58,520 --> 01:34:01,960
Speaker 1: Josh it should be Oha lends a pass rushing in.

1780
01:34:02,280 --> 01:34:06,120
Speaker 1: Jones has eleven, has ten and a hey, get there,

1781
01:34:06,320 --> 01:34:08,160
Speaker 1: so he only got credited for half on someday I

1782
01:34:08,200 --> 01:34:12,439
Speaker 1: thought he had a half sacks also done? Well, why

1783
01:34:13,000 --> 01:34:15,640
Speaker 1: why this aw? You either sacked him or you didn't. Well,

1784
01:34:15,680 --> 01:34:18,400
Speaker 1: what if you both there? You're not both there at

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01:34:18,439 --> 01:34:20,200
Speaker 1: the same time? All right? And I would also say

1786
01:34:20,200 --> 01:34:22,240
Speaker 1: that both of them should just get a sack, But

1787
01:34:22,800 --> 01:34:25,800
Speaker 1: then you have too many sacks. Half sacks? Stuff many sacks?

1788
01:34:25,960 --> 01:34:29,960
Speaker 1: Should there be a category for cause sacks? Well, hurt,

1789
01:34:30,080 --> 01:34:32,920
Speaker 1: I could tell you, like the tackle totals is you

1790
01:34:33,000 --> 01:34:37,000
Speaker 1: know I used to always rant to you about tackling

1791
01:34:37,040 --> 01:34:40,080
Speaker 1: the sheets. Yeah, I usually bad sign right London Fletcher,

1792
01:34:41,520 --> 01:34:44,519
Speaker 1: Right man. No, I mean there were guys that are like,

1793
01:34:44,640 --> 01:34:46,600
Speaker 1: and I'm not saying they're not really good players, like

1794
01:34:46,680 --> 01:34:48,479
Speaker 1: you know, Zach Thomas. She just threw out there. But like,

1795
01:34:48,880 --> 01:34:50,960
Speaker 1: I don't care that a guy had two hundred tackles

1796
01:34:51,280 --> 01:34:54,560
Speaker 1: because I know how they they tabulate them. It's like

1797
01:34:55,760 --> 01:34:59,880
Speaker 1: to whatever just said, Like a guy will execute his job,

1798
01:35:00,040 --> 01:35:02,040
Speaker 1: he'll get in the gap and the cause the running

1799
01:35:02,040 --> 01:35:03,920
Speaker 1: backs back. He gets credit for a tackle, the guy

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01:35:03,920 --> 01:35:05,880
Speaker 1: who tackles him gets credit for a tackle. If he

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01:35:05,920 --> 01:35:07,680
Speaker 1: goes out of bounce, the guy who's closest to him

1802
01:35:07,680 --> 01:35:11,680
Speaker 1: gets credit. Like tackles are handed out like candy. And

1803
01:35:11,920 --> 01:35:13,519
Speaker 1: I don't think you could do that with sacks because

1804
01:35:13,800 --> 01:35:16,080
Speaker 1: there's only so many times the quarterback actually goes down,

1805
01:35:16,160 --> 01:35:18,960
Speaker 1: so you can only get credited for one, right, Otherwise,

1806
01:35:19,200 --> 01:35:21,240
Speaker 1: you know, teams would end up with like a hundred

1807
01:35:21,280 --> 01:35:24,519
Speaker 1: sacks at the end of the year. But I just

1808
01:35:24,640 --> 01:35:28,599
Speaker 1: think they're these like little minute stat things like That's

1809
01:35:28,640 --> 01:35:32,760
Speaker 1: why I like completion percentage, hate it, hate it. I

1810
01:35:32,880 --> 01:35:37,240
Speaker 1: agree field goals made Nick Folk or justin Tucker Folk,

1811
01:35:37,840 --> 01:35:45,240
Speaker 1: I would think flat focus thirty Tucker has twenty nine. Yeah. See,

1812
01:35:45,280 --> 01:35:47,920
Speaker 1: because the Ravens have had big time red zone troubles too,

1813
01:35:48,200 --> 01:35:50,400
Speaker 1: except that they get to the red zone. Although my

1814
01:35:50,439 --> 01:35:53,240
Speaker 1: football experience only extends as far as playing left bench

1815
01:35:53,320 --> 01:35:55,439
Speaker 1: for my high school team, I feel like this one's

1816
01:35:55,479 --> 01:35:57,800
Speaker 1: for you. Then. I feel like the shockingly low number

1817
01:35:57,840 --> 01:36:00,320
Speaker 1: of passing touchdowns by Mac this season is enough of

1818
01:36:00,360 --> 01:36:03,479
Speaker 1: a reason for Craft to require that Bill makes a

1819
01:36:03,600 --> 01:36:06,200
Speaker 1: change to this offseason, either at quarterback or row set.

1820
01:36:06,479 --> 01:36:09,519
Speaker 1: I cannot imagine a scenario with Mac and Matt both

1821
01:36:09,600 --> 01:36:12,439
Speaker 1: come back next season in these roles and we witnessed

1822
01:36:12,600 --> 01:36:15,800
Speaker 1: dracs drastic improvement on the field. It's gonna be one

1823
01:36:15,800 --> 01:36:17,840
Speaker 1: of those standoffs at this meeting. It's like, so, Bill,

1824
01:36:17,880 --> 01:36:20,080
Speaker 1: how'd you how do you think the season win? All? Right? No?

1825
01:36:20,479 --> 01:36:25,320
Speaker 1: Think coming along? So any moves you're thinking about her? No?

1826
01:36:25,439 --> 01:36:27,920
Speaker 1: I don't know, not really. I could just see you,

1827
01:36:28,200 --> 01:36:29,720
Speaker 1: So Bill, you know what do you think? And it's

1828
01:36:29,720 --> 01:36:33,559
Speaker 1: just like white noise, you know, help me, mister Kraft,

1829
01:36:33,680 --> 01:36:40,519
Speaker 1: You're my only hole. What do you think? H help me,

1830
01:36:40,640 --> 01:36:44,519
Speaker 1: mister Kraft. Joe and Warwick, New York Um I was

1831
01:36:44,560 --> 01:36:46,880
Speaker 1: pretty upset, of course, on Sunday, But the thing that

1832
01:36:47,000 --> 01:36:49,880
Speaker 1: made me most angry was that Matt Patricia didn't stand up,

1833
01:36:50,000 --> 01:36:51,560
Speaker 1: do the right thing and take the blame for the

1834
01:36:51,600 --> 01:36:54,960
Speaker 1: play call in the last play. It wasn't play call.

1835
01:36:55,360 --> 01:36:57,760
Speaker 1: They didn't call that. He put the players in a

1836
01:36:57,800 --> 01:36:59,760
Speaker 1: bad position. There was very little chance of this play

1837
01:36:59,800 --> 01:37:02,880
Speaker 1: being yes, oh okay, well maybe I'm sorry. I know

1838
01:37:04,360 --> 01:37:06,640
Speaker 1: the draw. Yeah, he's saying the draw. He should have

1839
01:37:06,680 --> 01:37:08,360
Speaker 1: just called for a neel down. He should have been

1840
01:37:08,400 --> 01:37:10,720
Speaker 1: a stand up guy protected his players. Instead, he let

1841
01:37:10,800 --> 01:37:13,719
Speaker 1: the players take the brunt of the blame. Belichick. Belichick

1842
01:37:13,760 --> 01:37:16,519
Speaker 1: should tell Patricia Frado, I know it was you. Yeah,

1843
01:37:16,600 --> 01:37:20,320
Speaker 1: the draw was like to me, Bill's idea. But I

1844
01:37:20,439 --> 01:37:25,360
Speaker 1: think when you have a play that's unconventional, unconventional at

1845
01:37:25,400 --> 01:37:28,320
Speaker 1: a time, that's the head coach. Like when you go,

1846
01:37:28,720 --> 01:37:30,280
Speaker 1: like if they had gone for it on fourth down

1847
01:37:30,360 --> 01:37:33,800
Speaker 1: there and you know, ultimately they failed and then the

1848
01:37:33,880 --> 01:37:36,639
Speaker 1: Raiders kicked a field goal, you think that was Matt

1849
01:37:36,680 --> 01:37:38,240
Speaker 1: Patricia said, no, no, Bill, We're just gonna go for

1850
01:37:38,320 --> 01:37:41,800
Speaker 1: a fourth down here. It's the same like, yeah, every

1851
01:37:41,880 --> 01:37:44,439
Speaker 1: team in the league runs a hail Mary on that play.

1852
01:37:45,240 --> 01:37:47,600
Speaker 1: Or would they take a knee? No, one runs a

1853
01:37:47,680 --> 01:37:50,439
Speaker 1: draw yea from that point. Now, if you're on your

1854
01:37:50,479 --> 01:37:52,720
Speaker 1: own twenty, I've seen it, you know what I mean,

1855
01:37:52,880 --> 01:37:55,280
Speaker 1: I've seen on your own twenty they might just run

1856
01:37:55,320 --> 01:37:57,720
Speaker 1: a draw or whatever. But but they're not running a

1857
01:37:57,800 --> 01:38:00,600
Speaker 1: draw from midfield. The only factor you're not considering is

1858
01:38:00,640 --> 01:38:02,280
Speaker 1: that maybe we have a guy call in plays that

1859
01:38:02,320 --> 01:38:04,080
Speaker 1: has no idea what he's doing and it's just downs

1860
01:38:04,120 --> 01:38:05,479
Speaker 1: off at the wall. I know what, I wouldn't have

1861
01:38:05,479 --> 01:38:08,800
Speaker 1: been able to defend the draw. No, I just to me,

1862
01:38:08,960 --> 01:38:12,120
Speaker 1: I think again, we don't know. I put that more

1863
01:38:12,160 --> 01:38:14,240
Speaker 1: on Bill. The fact that they didn't just take a

1864
01:38:14,320 --> 01:38:15,960
Speaker 1: knee or run of Haile merity was on Bill. I

1865
01:38:16,000 --> 01:38:19,559
Speaker 1: just I don't know how you couldn't put everything on Bill.

1866
01:38:19,680 --> 01:38:21,519
Speaker 1: I mean, and we said it in the offseason going

1867
01:38:21,600 --> 01:38:24,439
Speaker 1: in of you know, holding our nose and hoping that

1868
01:38:24,520 --> 01:38:26,360
Speaker 1: this was somehow going to work. But I mean just saying,

1869
01:38:26,720 --> 01:38:29,680
Speaker 1: how is Matt Patricia in a position to succeed? I mean, you,

1870
01:38:29,920 --> 01:38:33,680
Speaker 1: offensive coordinators and offensive line coaches get killed even when

1871
01:38:33,720 --> 01:38:35,479
Speaker 1: they're good. You know, like even you come out of

1872
01:38:35,479 --> 01:38:37,519
Speaker 1: a game and people like, oh that play call, though

1873
01:38:37,880 --> 01:38:41,720
Speaker 1: Daniel from people like there was just no way that

1874
01:38:41,840 --> 01:38:44,000
Speaker 1: Matt Patricia, I mean, he had to walk the narrow

1875
01:38:44,040 --> 01:38:45,800
Speaker 1: STI lines in. I mean, he hasn't been good, but

1876
01:38:46,320 --> 01:38:48,240
Speaker 1: I just don't know how you you you focus all

1877
01:38:48,280 --> 01:38:50,439
Speaker 1: your iro on him instead of the guy that set

1878
01:38:50,520 --> 01:38:52,920
Speaker 1: this whole situation up. And I mean I think Fred

1879
01:38:52,960 --> 01:38:54,920
Speaker 1: said like that that Matt should have said no. I

1880
01:38:54,960 --> 01:38:57,280
Speaker 1: mean that's probably the only thing you can really that

1881
01:38:57,439 --> 01:38:59,720
Speaker 1: you can really argue that, like he should have said,

1882
01:38:59,800 --> 01:39:01,599
Speaker 1: I'm not qualified for this. It's not going to help

1883
01:39:01,640 --> 01:39:03,599
Speaker 1: my career to come in here and be the punching

1884
01:39:03,640 --> 01:39:05,960
Speaker 1: bag for the entire offense, whether the line plays bad

1885
01:39:06,040 --> 01:39:07,920
Speaker 1: or the play calling is bad. You know, it's all

1886
01:39:08,000 --> 01:39:10,559
Speaker 1: on him this year. And to be clear, someone told me, yeah,

1887
01:39:11,680 --> 01:39:14,679
Speaker 1: uh Burton, Burton Island right soon. I guess it's possible

1888
01:39:14,840 --> 01:39:16,920
Speaker 1: we could win out, but let's face it, the season

1889
01:39:17,040 --> 01:39:20,360
Speaker 1: likely ended in the closing minutes of Sunday's debacle. I'm

1890
01:39:20,400 --> 01:39:23,519
Speaker 1: glad Evan brought up the Jacoby interview yesterday. Here's a

1891
01:39:23,560 --> 01:39:26,439
Speaker 1: guy who made the most bone headed play imaginable, and

1892
01:39:26,560 --> 01:39:28,920
Speaker 1: all the reporters were trying a dozen different ways to

1893
01:39:28,960 --> 01:39:31,320
Speaker 1: get him to deflect blame and he wouldn't bite in

1894
01:39:31,360 --> 01:39:34,360
Speaker 1: the slightest. Myers is a stand up guy and always

1895
01:39:34,400 --> 01:39:37,120
Speaker 1: gives it his all. And I really hope we resigned him,

1896
01:39:37,120 --> 01:39:40,160
Speaker 1: no matter what. Jaded Old Perillo says, I hope they

1897
01:39:40,240 --> 01:39:44,400
Speaker 1: resigned him. Jed, what did you say? No, that part

1898
01:39:44,520 --> 01:39:47,000
Speaker 1: is accurate, Jaded Old Perillo, that part is accurate. But

1899
01:39:47,320 --> 01:39:50,200
Speaker 1: I want to resign Jacoby Myers, it adds. I don't

1900
01:39:50,240 --> 01:39:52,559
Speaker 1: think they will that whole resigning too. I don't think

1901
01:39:52,600 --> 01:39:55,960
Speaker 1: they will, but I would absolutely wouldn't mind. It's going

1902
01:39:56,000 --> 01:39:59,120
Speaker 1: to be a great story third or fourth receiver. I

1903
01:39:59,200 --> 01:40:00,680
Speaker 1: just don't want him to be the the number one

1904
01:40:00,760 --> 01:40:03,160
Speaker 1: receiver that he's been the last two seasons? Is that

1905
01:40:03,240 --> 01:40:06,519
Speaker 1: ask him too much? Sulman pretty much the same. You know,

1906
01:40:06,640 --> 01:40:10,400
Speaker 1: Myers taking the blame for it all, but he says,

1907
01:40:10,400 --> 01:40:13,160
Speaker 1: I blame Belichick for hiring Patrician Judge. I'm feeling it's

1908
01:40:13,200 --> 01:40:15,639
Speaker 1: time to turn the page on Belichick. He's an all

1909
01:40:15,680 --> 01:40:18,160
Speaker 1: time great, but the game has passed him by. I

1910
01:40:18,280 --> 01:40:21,479
Speaker 1: want to point out to remind folks. After the Miami miracle,

1911
01:40:21,920 --> 01:40:24,679
Speaker 1: Belichick said they needed to coach that better this time,

1912
01:40:24,720 --> 01:40:27,920
Speaker 1: though mistakes were made. Sounds like he's pointing at the players.

1913
01:40:28,000 --> 01:40:30,599
Speaker 1: He's going to lose the locker room. If he hasn't already,

1914
01:40:32,040 --> 01:40:34,280
Speaker 1: it may have. I mean, I do think that Bill

1915
01:40:34,360 --> 01:40:37,720
Speaker 1: has evolved over his time here, and you know, took

1916
01:40:37,800 --> 01:40:41,719
Speaker 1: taking strides to you know, manage the generational shift that's

1917
01:40:41,720 --> 01:40:44,360
Speaker 1: happened under him. But I mean, I just I can't

1918
01:40:44,560 --> 01:40:48,519
Speaker 1: help but wonder if the message from that generation of

1919
01:40:48,600 --> 01:40:52,960
Speaker 1: a head coach is still connecting and inspiring that the

1920
01:40:53,160 --> 01:40:55,400
Speaker 1: younger people in the generation now that are playing. And

1921
01:40:55,520 --> 01:40:57,280
Speaker 1: you know when I mean, he got in the league

1922
01:40:57,280 --> 01:40:59,719
Speaker 1: twenty years ago, this system and his style of coaching

1923
01:40:59,760 --> 01:41:02,760
Speaker 1: and all that had been molded seventies, eighties, nineties, I

1924
01:41:02,800 --> 01:41:04,840
Speaker 1: mean we're in a new time now. I mean, I'd

1925
01:41:04,880 --> 01:41:06,640
Speaker 1: love to say that that he could coach forever, but

1926
01:41:06,880 --> 01:41:08,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I think we all know when you got

1927
01:41:08,960 --> 01:41:10,599
Speaker 1: some old guy that you don't really get what he's

1928
01:41:10,640 --> 01:41:12,719
Speaker 1: talking about. We're not the same generation, we don't speak

1929
01:41:12,720 --> 01:41:15,080
Speaker 1: the same language anymore. I just I wonder if that's,

1930
01:41:15,400 --> 01:41:17,080
Speaker 1: you know, part of the bigger issue of the teams

1931
01:41:17,200 --> 01:41:18,880
Speaker 1: just not coming together at the end of the season

1932
01:41:18,920 --> 01:41:22,280
Speaker 1: anymore like they kind of used to. Let's go back

1933
01:41:22,320 --> 01:41:25,000
Speaker 1: to the phones eight five five Pats five hundred. We'll

1934
01:41:25,040 --> 01:41:29,360
Speaker 1: go to Justin in Virginia. Hey, Justine, what's going on? Guys? Hey,

1935
01:41:30,080 --> 01:41:31,680
Speaker 1: I want to kind of piggy back up. Well, Mike

1936
01:41:31,840 --> 01:41:35,160
Speaker 1: just said, um, I think when you when the staff

1937
01:41:35,320 --> 01:41:38,400
Speaker 1: around a head coach like that is all like, are

1938
01:41:38,439 --> 01:41:41,960
Speaker 1: all young? Um, Josh McDaniel types. Well, I mean just

1939
01:41:42,160 --> 01:41:44,200
Speaker 1: McDaniel wasn't young, but like you know what I mean,

1940
01:41:44,320 --> 01:41:47,759
Speaker 1: like young coaches that are on the rise in vogue,

1941
01:41:47,800 --> 01:41:50,439
Speaker 1: coaches that can kind of work. But the situation we

1942
01:41:50,560 --> 01:41:53,000
Speaker 1: have is, you know the situation we have. We've talking

1943
01:41:53,000 --> 01:41:54,880
Speaker 1: about it all year. You know what I'm saying. How

1944
01:41:54,920 --> 01:42:00,719
Speaker 1: do you think our offensive mess compares of the Falcons

1945
01:42:00,760 --> 01:42:03,160
Speaker 1: One they had a couple of years when they had

1946
01:42:04,240 --> 01:42:06,479
Speaker 1: the offensive coach that they had to move up into

1947
01:42:06,520 --> 01:42:09,160
Speaker 1: the press box. I think his name is Steve Sarkasian,

1948
01:42:09,200 --> 01:42:11,080
Speaker 1: and they had a Matt Ryan and all of them.

1949
01:42:11,120 --> 01:42:12,320
Speaker 1: How do you how do you think what we have

1950
01:42:12,400 --> 01:42:14,639
Speaker 1: compared to that? I mean, Steve Sarcasian is a great coach.

1951
01:42:15,479 --> 01:42:18,160
Speaker 1: So they didn't happen. Well, that's the same guy that

1952
01:42:18,280 --> 01:42:20,000
Speaker 1: they needed to move up into the press box and

1953
01:42:20,080 --> 01:42:22,000
Speaker 1: it didn't work for like the first ten games. What

1954
01:42:22,000 --> 01:42:23,479
Speaker 1: do you mean moved up to the press box. A

1955
01:42:23,520 --> 01:42:27,280
Speaker 1: lot of coaches called players from the press box. No,

1956
01:42:27,479 --> 01:42:30,400
Speaker 1: but you don't remember half that year it wasn't work.

1957
01:42:30,520 --> 01:42:32,320
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it was don't remember them. I mean,

1958
01:42:32,800 --> 01:42:34,640
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it wasn't a good year. But like,

1959
01:42:34,720 --> 01:42:37,120
Speaker 1: if Steve Sarcasian he's coaching at Texas, the head coach

1960
01:42:37,160 --> 01:42:39,320
Speaker 1: of Texas right now, if he wants to come coach

1961
01:42:39,400 --> 01:42:43,280
Speaker 1: the Patriots offensive, like please come, like with open arms.

1962
01:42:43,280 --> 01:42:45,439
Speaker 1: I don't remember what happened in Atlanta. I'm just saying

1963
01:42:46,200 --> 01:42:49,280
Speaker 1: year schematically, it seemed like it wasn't working. So Steve

1964
01:42:49,320 --> 01:42:52,320
Speaker 1: Skarkasian was the offensive coordinator for Mac Jones at Alabama

1965
01:42:52,360 --> 01:42:56,360
Speaker 1: and his last year at Bama. So so, but forget

1966
01:42:56,400 --> 01:42:58,200
Speaker 1: about the names. I think the point that Carl is

1967
01:42:58,200 --> 01:43:01,840
Speaker 1: trying to make is that things didn't go well that year.

1968
01:43:02,040 --> 01:43:04,880
Speaker 1: Is there any correlation? Is that what you're saying? Well, yeah,

1969
01:43:04,920 --> 01:43:06,840
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean the correlation to me is

1970
01:43:06,920 --> 01:43:10,599
Speaker 1: the old Eagles. But yeah, how do you just think

1971
01:43:10,680 --> 01:43:13,320
Speaker 1: those seasons kind of went like like I don't have

1972
01:43:13,439 --> 01:43:15,680
Speaker 1: any I like, I mean, I don't mean to be disrespectful.

1973
01:43:15,680 --> 01:43:17,920
Speaker 1: I don't really have any knowledge. I just know that

1974
01:43:18,080 --> 01:43:20,920
Speaker 1: to talk about what happened in Atlanta ten years ago.

1975
01:43:21,000 --> 01:43:24,800
Speaker 1: We broke them in sixteen, but this was long before that. Yeah,

1976
01:43:25,360 --> 01:43:28,559
Speaker 1: so they were already broken early Matt Ryan early Matt Ryan. Yeah,

1977
01:43:28,560 --> 01:43:30,560
Speaker 1: it sounds no, no, no, no, this was after that.

1978
01:43:30,880 --> 01:43:34,040
Speaker 1: So Kyle Shanahan was the offensive coordinator in the Super

1979
01:43:34,120 --> 01:43:38,400
Speaker 1: Bowl for the Falcons. Steve Sarkasian came in after Kyle. Okay, yeah,

1980
01:43:38,400 --> 01:43:40,479
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't remember what happened, So I don't.

1981
01:43:40,520 --> 01:43:42,360
Speaker 1: I don't either. He was only there for like a

1982
01:43:42,439 --> 01:43:44,360
Speaker 1: year or two. Their offense is not good that year.

1983
01:43:44,439 --> 01:43:48,880
Speaker 1: But I think the the difference is when you look

1984
01:43:48,920 --> 01:43:51,680
Speaker 1: at bad offenses like around the league that other than

1985
01:43:51,720 --> 01:43:56,439
Speaker 1: the Patriots, they still have offensive coaches coaching offense, right,

1986
01:43:56,479 --> 01:44:00,439
Speaker 1: And that's why it's they might not have good players

1987
01:44:00,520 --> 01:44:03,000
Speaker 1: to execute the schemes that they're running, but their schemes

1988
01:44:03,240 --> 01:44:05,640
Speaker 1: are at least making sense in the spacing and the

1989
01:44:05,800 --> 01:44:07,640
Speaker 1: details and all like all that type of stuff is

1990
01:44:07,640 --> 01:44:10,400
Speaker 1: at least resembling an NFL football team. They might just

1991
01:44:10,479 --> 01:44:12,920
Speaker 1: not have good players, you know that. That's that's the

1992
01:44:13,000 --> 01:44:16,240
Speaker 1: biggest thing when you look at some of the teams

1993
01:44:16,280 --> 01:44:18,400
Speaker 1: that are at the bottom of the league in offense

1994
01:44:18,520 --> 01:44:21,360
Speaker 1: right now, that that's the difference, right is between the

1995
01:44:21,439 --> 01:44:25,000
Speaker 1: Patriots and them, is that the Patriots are a disjointed

1996
01:44:25,120 --> 01:44:27,080
Speaker 1: mess on offense and these other teams I think just

1997
01:44:27,160 --> 01:44:29,599
Speaker 1: don't have the players to be a better offense. Thanks Justin.

1998
01:44:30,040 --> 01:44:36,920
Speaker 1: Let's go to U Eldred in North Carolina. Hey, Aldred, big, Hey, Hey,

1999
01:44:38,000 --> 01:44:41,240
Speaker 1: I heard part of the part of the thing this afternoon.

2000
01:44:41,840 --> 01:44:44,960
Speaker 1: If somebody says something about somebody off if they offer

2001
01:44:45,080 --> 01:44:48,519
Speaker 1: Bill off of mister craft broke round for bial, you

2002
01:44:48,560 --> 01:44:52,120
Speaker 1: can he get one no pro football talk with someone said,

2003
01:44:52,439 --> 01:44:58,320
Speaker 1: you know, would you be interested in trading Bill to

2004
01:44:58,439 --> 01:45:00,200
Speaker 1: a place where he wanted to a place that he

2005
01:45:00,240 --> 01:45:04,120
Speaker 1: wanted to go and coach. It's obviously a far fetched hypothetical,

2006
01:45:04,720 --> 01:45:07,759
Speaker 1: but hypothetical. I would just wonder it. I was wondering

2007
01:45:07,800 --> 01:45:13,040
Speaker 1: me called. I was thinking, why would they? Why would

2008
01:45:13,120 --> 01:45:15,280
Speaker 1: why would the other team? Why would the other team

2009
01:45:15,360 --> 01:45:17,439
Speaker 1: go up a first round pick? Yeah, yeah, I think

2010
01:45:17,479 --> 01:45:20,799
Speaker 1: that's a fair question to ask. This is my argument

2011
01:45:20,880 --> 01:45:23,479
Speaker 1: against Daddy is why would you you know, are you

2012
01:45:23,600 --> 01:45:27,800
Speaker 1: looking at well first twenty some years the last sick

2013
01:45:28,720 --> 01:45:31,400
Speaker 1: no talent, so if you got to how your talent

2014
01:45:31,960 --> 01:45:38,840
Speaker 1: most times, alder eld Eldred, you're telling me that if

2015
01:45:38,920 --> 01:45:42,960
Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers like, the Carolina Panthers wouldn't want Bill

2016
01:45:43,000 --> 01:45:46,960
Speaker 1: Belichick to be their head coach. If I was in

2017
01:45:47,080 --> 01:45:50,080
Speaker 1: charge of the Carolina Panthers, I wouldn't get up a

2018
01:45:50,120 --> 01:45:51,840
Speaker 1: first round pick for him. I'm not talking about the

2019
01:45:51,880 --> 01:45:54,479
Speaker 1: time I was in charge of the Chargers. I would

2020
01:45:54,520 --> 01:45:56,360
Speaker 1: get up a first round I'm not talking about the trade.

2021
01:45:56,439 --> 01:45:59,800
Speaker 1: I just forget take the parameters of the trade for

2022
01:46:00,160 --> 01:46:03,920
Speaker 1: how much of an absolute we think here is a

2023
01:46:04,000 --> 01:46:06,479
Speaker 1: dumpster the Patriots of seven and seven. All right, what's

2024
01:46:06,560 --> 01:46:08,760
Speaker 1: been going on in Carolina over six and eight, over

2025
01:46:08,800 --> 01:46:10,320
Speaker 1: the last couple of years is what if I deal

2026
01:46:10,400 --> 01:46:12,400
Speaker 1: what Bill is for the first five years, you're gonna

2027
01:46:12,400 --> 01:46:14,040
Speaker 1: be our head coach, and then you're going might be

2028
01:46:14,160 --> 01:46:16,680
Speaker 1: five and nine. You know what, what if like the

2029
01:46:17,080 --> 01:46:19,120
Speaker 1: deal is for the first five years Bill, you're gonna

2030
01:46:19,120 --> 01:46:20,560
Speaker 1: be our head coach, don't and then you're gonna be

2031
01:46:20,600 --> 01:46:22,439
Speaker 1: interested in him being in my coach or five years

2032
01:46:22,920 --> 01:46:25,280
Speaker 1: I'm not, and then you're gonna be the ga F. Yeah,

2033
01:46:25,280 --> 01:46:27,120
Speaker 1: I don't want to be in the GM at all right,

2034
01:46:28,840 --> 01:46:32,439
Speaker 1: No think I just I would do it, Like if

2035
01:46:32,520 --> 01:46:34,519
Speaker 1: I if it was like the Chargers and I felt

2036
01:46:34,560 --> 01:46:37,840
Speaker 1: like I have enough talent to be better than I

2037
01:46:37,880 --> 01:46:41,400
Speaker 1: am right now, I just need a coach, then I

2038
01:46:41,479 --> 01:46:45,720
Speaker 1: would do it. But I don't know about like the Panthers.

2039
01:46:46,200 --> 01:46:47,880
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I don't know if I trust him

2040
01:46:47,920 --> 01:46:49,639
Speaker 1: to be the guy that's going to pick the next quarterback.

2041
01:46:49,760 --> 01:46:53,320
Speaker 1: I'm not necessarily saying I think you're bringing up all

2042
01:46:53,400 --> 01:46:56,320
Speaker 1: fair points. I'm more looking at it of like if

2043
01:46:56,360 --> 01:46:58,639
Speaker 1: you're a Carolina and you want to make a splash

2044
01:46:58,720 --> 01:47:01,040
Speaker 1: head coach higher and that like that owner and that

2045
01:47:01,120 --> 01:47:06,200
Speaker 1: owner would apply you mentioned Temper would do it. Temper,

2046
01:47:06,520 --> 01:47:10,200
Speaker 1: you know the Colts. I would like Houston with Nick

2047
01:47:10,520 --> 01:47:13,240
Speaker 1: going to work with Nick Kissario again and Houston. Like

2048
01:47:13,640 --> 01:47:17,960
Speaker 1: I'm just talking possibilities teams. That just so the Patriots.

2049
01:47:18,760 --> 01:47:20,400
Speaker 1: He was only here for four years. Do you think

2050
01:47:20,439 --> 01:47:23,639
Speaker 1: he helped the Patriots? Yeah, I don't, but he would

2051
01:47:24,720 --> 01:47:26,920
Speaker 1: he left because he wanted to leave, Okay, because he

2052
01:47:26,920 --> 01:47:29,519
Speaker 1: couldn't only here for four years, but I would you

2053
01:47:29,560 --> 01:47:31,960
Speaker 1: want Parls now for the next four years? Now, what

2054
01:47:32,160 --> 01:47:34,599
Speaker 1: is he eighty? But that's like you're at the end,

2055
01:47:35,000 --> 01:47:37,240
Speaker 1: Like when he was done in Dallas, would you wanted

2056
01:47:37,240 --> 01:47:40,840
Speaker 1: to showing any signs of I don't think you're watching then,

2057
01:47:41,120 --> 01:47:44,040
Speaker 1: Like they haven't been very well coached for a couple

2058
01:47:44,040 --> 01:47:47,280
Speaker 1: of years. I think he would help any team. Parcels

2059
01:47:47,400 --> 01:47:51,400
Speaker 1: is also a known program builder, right, Like this is

2060
01:47:51,439 --> 01:47:54,479
Speaker 1: a guy that that came into many different teams and

2061
01:47:55,120 --> 01:47:59,120
Speaker 1: from and got them on a on a decent path. Right.

2062
01:48:00,160 --> 01:48:02,760
Speaker 1: My whole thing with with other teams wanting Bill is

2063
01:48:02,800 --> 01:48:05,120
Speaker 1: more about it just being Bill, right. I mean, you're

2064
01:48:05,240 --> 01:48:08,200
Speaker 1: you're you're making probably the higher of them. That was

2065
01:48:08,240 --> 01:48:11,040
Speaker 1: the biggest thing people said about Parcels. He gave them

2066
01:48:11,120 --> 01:48:14,439
Speaker 1: instant credibility, right, A more of a team gave them

2067
01:48:14,479 --> 01:48:18,240
Speaker 1: instant credibility. Right. But like I wouldn't have wanted, um,

2068
01:48:19,400 --> 01:48:22,559
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have wanted Parcels to come to my team

2069
01:48:22,640 --> 01:48:26,080
Speaker 1: when he was done with Dallas. Yeah, but like when

2070
01:48:26,320 --> 01:48:31,439
Speaker 1: Parcels came to the Patriots in ninety three. Absolutely, And

2071
01:48:31,600 --> 01:48:35,000
Speaker 1: actually one more question. Sure, I know if I'd been

2072
01:48:35,040 --> 01:48:37,800
Speaker 1: beating us around the bush all the time, but I

2073
01:48:37,960 --> 01:48:39,800
Speaker 1: know we got three games left, but I don't think

2074
01:48:39,800 --> 01:48:42,400
Speaker 1: we got a chance in Hald winning them. So my

2075
01:48:42,560 --> 01:48:47,439
Speaker 1: question is next year. Just in Kate, what if Craft

2076
01:48:47,479 --> 01:48:49,519
Speaker 1: and Bill do have that top and he'd run their

2077
01:48:49,560 --> 01:48:51,920
Speaker 1: things back the way it is. How do you think

2078
01:48:51,960 --> 01:48:55,120
Speaker 1: the rock locker room in the playoffs? Wag? I don't

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01:48:55,120 --> 01:48:57,639
Speaker 1: think it can happen. Can't do it? Yeah you can't. Yeah,

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01:48:59,080 --> 01:49:01,080
Speaker 1: but it wouldn't be good. I think then you would

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01:49:01,120 --> 01:49:03,720
Speaker 1: be at an impass. I think then you'd be had

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01:49:03,720 --> 01:49:11,320
Speaker 1: to come to Jesus moment. Yepkay, alright, alright, aldred Um

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01:49:11,880 --> 01:49:15,160
Speaker 1: skip rights. In the overall frustration has been building. Not

2084
01:49:15,320 --> 01:49:17,519
Speaker 1: to rehash Bill versus Tom, but those of us who

2085
01:49:17,560 --> 01:49:20,639
Speaker 1: were okay siding with Bill was because the Patriots would

2086
01:49:20,640 --> 01:49:23,639
Speaker 1: play smart football and have a game plan advantage almost

2087
01:49:23,680 --> 01:49:26,000
Speaker 1: every week. That has not been the case over the

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01:49:26,120 --> 01:49:29,240
Speaker 1: last three years, with this weekend being the latest example.

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01:49:29,600 --> 01:49:32,200
Speaker 1: While I would not fire Bill, I am at the

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01:49:32,240 --> 01:49:35,080
Speaker 1: point that if some team offered Kraft a sweetheart deal

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01:49:35,200 --> 01:49:39,840
Speaker 1: for him, I do think it should be considered and

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01:49:40,000 --> 01:49:42,559
Speaker 1: Bill wouldn't have to want to go there. Did what did?

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01:49:42,760 --> 01:49:45,120
Speaker 1: What did the Patriots give up for Bill? Initially, we'll

2094
01:49:45,120 --> 01:49:46,680
Speaker 1: getting to the Jets. I was the first round pick,

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01:49:47,040 --> 01:49:50,479
Speaker 1: just one, No, it was a first round, a fourth

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01:49:50,640 --> 01:49:53,160
Speaker 1: round and then the Jets gave back a fifth round, right,

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Speaker 1: I believe, And I think they had to give the

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01:49:55,280 --> 01:49:57,559
Speaker 1: Jets like a million dollars or something like that might

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01:49:57,600 --> 01:49:59,720
Speaker 1: have been something like that, But like that's my point. Like, so,

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Speaker 1: I mean you're saying now you it would be more

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01:50:04,479 --> 01:50:07,040
Speaker 1: because he's won six titles. I'm saying it will be

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Speaker 1: less because he's seventy one years old. Yeah, when he's

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01:50:09,920 --> 01:50:12,120
Speaker 1: going to be the next you know, I think I

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01:50:12,240 --> 01:50:14,360
Speaker 1: just think that also the marketing, you know, like not

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01:50:14,479 --> 01:50:16,439
Speaker 1: that he's going to go out and give speeches for you,

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01:50:16,600 --> 01:50:20,720
Speaker 1: but the idea that, wow, our team who stinks you know,

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01:50:20,880 --> 01:50:25,760
Speaker 1: probably just signed Bill Belichick, that your fans are, you're excited,

2108
01:50:25,800 --> 01:50:28,559
Speaker 1: and that means that's that means money to a team.

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01:50:29,120 --> 01:50:32,120
Speaker 1: You know, that's season ticket sales, right, I mean remember

2110
01:50:32,280 --> 01:50:35,280
Speaker 1: you know when when you know, Parcelsforce came, there was

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Speaker 1: a bumping season ticket sales. When Kraft bought the team,

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01:50:38,600 --> 01:50:41,760
Speaker 1: they sold out, you know, so it means it means

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01:50:41,880 --> 01:50:44,280
Speaker 1: money too, not just wins. Well, that's part of my

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01:50:44,400 --> 01:50:46,599
Speaker 1: question is is how much does that Bill Belichick name

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01:50:46,640 --> 01:50:48,280
Speaker 1: brand mean to the Crafts right now? You know, and

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01:50:48,320 --> 01:50:51,080
Speaker 1: how much does that mean to the Patriots. Yeah something

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01:50:51,200 --> 01:50:55,599
Speaker 1: for I don't know. Yeah, what's the ticket situation around

2118
01:50:55,600 --> 01:50:59,639
Speaker 1: the league? Not every team has sold out the season tickets.

2119
01:51:00,040 --> 01:51:01,840
Speaker 1: Are a lot of teams that their people wake up

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01:51:01,920 --> 01:51:04,559
Speaker 1: every day thinking how do we sell more tickets. We've

2121
01:51:04,600 --> 01:51:07,400
Speaker 1: been very lucky to not be in that position, you know,

2122
01:51:08,280 --> 01:51:11,400
Speaker 1: because it changes your life as a marketing person that

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01:51:11,520 --> 01:51:14,240
Speaker 1: that's your main goal sell tickets. They just come to

2124
01:51:14,320 --> 01:51:16,920
Speaker 1: you now, Yeah, well we don't have to do anything.

2125
01:51:16,960 --> 01:51:18,880
Speaker 1: You just renew him. What's the waiting list like right

2126
01:51:18,920 --> 01:51:21,360
Speaker 1: now for a patient seasonsty? I mean I have to

2127
01:51:21,439 --> 01:51:24,080
Speaker 1: admit I got season tickets because they signed because they

2128
01:51:24,200 --> 01:51:26,960
Speaker 1: hired Bill Parsons. That's that's when I became a season

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01:51:27,000 --> 01:51:28,680
Speaker 1: ticket hold. I should probably get off the winning list

2130
01:51:28,760 --> 01:51:33,280
Speaker 1: now does I work here? Obviously for the quality of

2131
01:51:33,320 --> 01:51:37,919
Speaker 1: the Shaddy from Houston, we all know that the offensive

2132
01:51:37,960 --> 01:51:40,519
Speaker 1: coaching is historically bad and changes need to be made

2133
01:51:40,560 --> 01:51:43,360
Speaker 1: in the off season. However, I wanted to ask what

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01:51:43,520 --> 01:51:46,000
Speaker 1: the defense of Mac Jones is now that he's faced

2135
01:51:46,040 --> 01:51:49,040
Speaker 1: two poor defenses in back to back weeks and did

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01:51:49,080 --> 01:51:52,920
Speaker 1: absolutely nothing. When Zappy torched Cleveland, all we heard was

2137
01:51:53,040 --> 01:51:55,799
Speaker 1: that it was the thirtieth defense in Dvoa, et cetera.

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01:51:56,200 --> 01:51:58,360
Speaker 1: I'm aware that Zappy is not the answer and that

2139
01:51:58,479 --> 01:52:01,840
Speaker 1: he isn't a vast improved unmac, But if the staff

2140
01:52:01,960 --> 01:52:04,479
Speaker 1: wants to make the playoffs, would it be worth throwing

2141
01:52:04,560 --> 01:52:07,400
Speaker 1: in Zappy for the last three games? I mean absolutely,

2142
01:52:07,439 --> 01:52:10,439
Speaker 1: as Evan will tell you. Yes, Evan, please detail that

2143
01:52:11,800 --> 01:52:15,680
Speaker 1: I got done. Can I just say one thing in

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01:52:15,840 --> 01:52:18,240
Speaker 1: terms of the Zappy thing and listen, the numbers are

2145
01:52:18,280 --> 01:52:22,519
Speaker 1: what they are, Okay, that's the one outlier of the season.

2146
01:52:22,600 --> 01:52:26,080
Speaker 1: They scored five touchdowns that day, Like, clearly something happened.

2147
01:52:26,360 --> 01:52:28,400
Speaker 1: It was the one time that Matt Patricia maybe he

2148
01:52:28,439 --> 01:52:30,960
Speaker 1: bumped his head that day and it weren't like I'll

2149
01:52:30,960 --> 01:52:33,240
Speaker 1: tell you what happened. Every other game, including all of

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01:52:33,280 --> 01:52:35,640
Speaker 1: the other ones with Zappy, the offense didn't look like

2151
01:52:35,720 --> 01:52:38,720
Speaker 1: it did against Cleveland. Against Cleveland they actually called this

2152
01:52:38,840 --> 01:52:41,840
Speaker 1: thing called play action, and they called it often, and

2153
01:52:41,960 --> 01:52:44,599
Speaker 1: then every other head every other game of the season

2154
01:52:44,840 --> 01:52:47,479
Speaker 1: they've called I think last week they called two play

2155
01:52:47,520 --> 01:52:51,400
Speaker 1: action passes. But like against Green Bay, when Zappy played

2156
01:52:51,400 --> 01:52:53,519
Speaker 1: the vast majority of the game, they couldn't really move

2157
01:52:53,560 --> 01:52:56,439
Speaker 1: the ball, they couldn't score. They scored on the action

2158
01:52:56,680 --> 01:53:00,800
Speaker 1: against Against Detroit, they got a bunch of field goals

2159
01:53:00,840 --> 01:53:03,360
Speaker 1: that were set up by fourth down stops by the defense,

2160
01:53:03,520 --> 01:53:07,320
Speaker 1: and they I think they scored one touchdown against Chicago. Yeah,

2161
01:53:07,360 --> 01:53:09,040
Speaker 1: he came in and gave him an immediate lift and

2162
01:53:09,080 --> 01:53:12,080
Speaker 1: then did not action, then did nothing the entirety of

2163
01:53:12,120 --> 01:53:17,120
Speaker 1: the second half. Cleveland is the outlier. They had a

2164
01:53:17,240 --> 01:53:21,040
Speaker 1: really good offensive game in Cleveland. It was it because

2165
01:53:21,080 --> 01:53:23,519
Speaker 1: of Zappy. I don't know, maybe it was Maybe if

2166
01:53:23,640 --> 01:53:26,519
Speaker 1: Zappy plays the last three games, the offense will look better. Sorry,

2167
01:53:27,240 --> 01:53:32,680
Speaker 1: but I just don't think this. I don't think the

2168
01:53:33,080 --> 01:53:36,720
Speaker 1: magic thing is the quarterback. I think there's so many

2169
01:53:36,760 --> 01:53:39,680
Speaker 1: more issues offensive. So he's just the quarterback. He's part

2170
01:53:39,720 --> 01:53:41,320
Speaker 1: of it, but not the only. What I'm gonna say

2171
01:53:41,320 --> 01:53:44,760
Speaker 1: about the Zappy thing. Okay, so the best to me,

2172
01:53:45,000 --> 01:53:48,960
Speaker 1: the best case scenario for the Patriots next season is

2173
01:53:49,000 --> 01:53:51,360
Speaker 1: that they get a real offensive coordinator that gets Mack

2174
01:53:51,439 --> 01:53:55,040
Speaker 1: back on track. Correct Like that's that's the most ideal thing.

2175
01:53:56,280 --> 01:53:59,600
Speaker 1: So with that in mind, if you bench Mac for

2176
01:53:59,640 --> 01:54:02,519
Speaker 1: the last week, for you lost him, it's over, like

2177
01:54:02,680 --> 01:54:06,519
Speaker 1: he's his everything's gone, like his confidence is gone. Heck,

2178
01:54:06,760 --> 01:54:11,080
Speaker 1: he he might want to be gone. Right at that point, like,

2179
01:54:11,160 --> 01:54:13,679
Speaker 1: if you're gonna get that anyway, if you're gonna bench

2180
01:54:13,760 --> 01:54:15,519
Speaker 1: him at the end of the year, now when the

2181
01:54:15,640 --> 01:54:19,600
Speaker 1: whole operation has been an absolute mess, him included, but

2182
01:54:19,760 --> 01:54:22,240
Speaker 1: it's not just been him that's been a mess, and

2183
01:54:22,320 --> 01:54:24,760
Speaker 1: then you're gonna try to roll it back with him

2184
01:54:24,840 --> 01:54:27,080
Speaker 1: next year and and try to get you know, coach

2185
01:54:27,160 --> 01:54:29,800
Speaker 1: him back up. I just think at that point you've

2186
01:54:30,120 --> 01:54:33,200
Speaker 1: you've already basically broken broken him ninety five percent of

2187
01:54:33,240 --> 01:54:35,320
Speaker 1: the way. But if you do that, then you then

2188
01:54:35,360 --> 01:54:37,600
Speaker 1: that you lost him, and then you're back at square one.

2189
01:54:39,720 --> 01:54:45,240
Speaker 1: You're getting that email ready if okay, so he's playing

2190
01:54:45,280 --> 01:54:47,960
Speaker 1: this week, and Bill said said as much. Okay, but

2191
01:54:49,440 --> 01:54:53,160
Speaker 1: would there be any way Yeah, that's true. It wasn't

2192
01:54:53,720 --> 01:54:57,200
Speaker 1: wasn't defended him. Um is there any way is there

2193
01:54:57,200 --> 01:54:59,040
Speaker 1: anything to be gained by? Like, because you have to

2194
01:54:59,120 --> 01:55:01,760
Speaker 1: have some doubts, right, You're you say, like, I know

2195
01:55:01,840 --> 01:55:03,800
Speaker 1: you come off as a mac apologist, but even you

2196
01:55:03,920 --> 01:55:07,360
Speaker 1: would have doubts, Right, I have doubts. So I think

2197
01:55:07,400 --> 01:55:12,040
Speaker 1: we all have some doubts to varying degrees. So Bill

2198
01:55:12,120 --> 01:55:17,960
Speaker 1: has to two, right, would there be any benefit to saying, yeah,

2199
01:55:18,040 --> 01:55:20,880
Speaker 1: I know I risk losing the guy. But you know what,

2200
01:55:21,120 --> 01:55:23,680
Speaker 1: I gotta make that risk because I gotta find out

2201
01:55:23,720 --> 01:55:25,120
Speaker 1: if this other kid, you know, was it just a

2202
01:55:25,160 --> 01:55:28,200
Speaker 1: flash in the pan? Was it just because of better

2203
01:55:28,280 --> 01:55:31,120
Speaker 1: play calls? Was it just because of the opponent? Was

2204
01:55:31,400 --> 01:55:34,600
Speaker 1: all the different things that we say, yeah, but were

2205
01:55:34,640 --> 01:55:36,880
Speaker 1: they all yeah? Butts? Or does the kid have something?

2206
01:55:37,160 --> 01:55:38,760
Speaker 1: And maybe you play him the last two games and

2207
01:55:38,800 --> 01:55:41,920
Speaker 1: you find out, yeah, he stinks too, or he goes

2208
01:55:41,960 --> 01:55:44,080
Speaker 1: out there and it's like, yeah, we didn't win the games,

2209
01:55:44,120 --> 01:55:46,160
Speaker 1: but it looked a lot better. We were functional. But

2210
01:55:46,280 --> 01:55:48,560
Speaker 1: to I don't, I don't know, like to what end

2211
01:55:49,080 --> 01:55:53,360
Speaker 1: that you have a legitimate or you have a legitimate competition,

2212
01:55:53,560 --> 01:55:57,280
Speaker 1: not necessarily going into the it proves that Mac not

2213
01:55:57,480 --> 01:55:59,880
Speaker 1: doing it like we're giving him. You know again, don't

2214
01:56:00,040 --> 01:56:02,240
Speaker 1: change the offense when you put ZAPPI in. Do the

2215
01:56:02,320 --> 01:56:04,640
Speaker 1: exact same thing you would if Mac was. And if

2216
01:56:04,680 --> 01:56:07,520
Speaker 1: it looks better with Zappy, it may not means necessarily

2217
01:56:07,520 --> 01:56:10,240
Speaker 1: as Zappy's good, It just means that Mac right, like

2218
01:56:10,320 --> 01:56:12,480
Speaker 1: I'll give I'll give you one like and this is

2219
01:56:13,280 --> 01:56:14,800
Speaker 1: and I don't believe in that, but I'm just no, no,

2220
01:56:15,080 --> 01:56:16,840
Speaker 1: I don't believe in all this I'm giving you like

2221
01:56:17,000 --> 01:56:21,320
Speaker 1: hypotheticals in like, so like if you lose them, okay,

2222
01:56:22,040 --> 01:56:23,600
Speaker 1: and I agree with you, guys, you can't do it

2223
01:56:23,600 --> 01:56:26,280
Speaker 1: because you lose them. But what if like they just

2224
01:56:26,320 --> 01:56:29,320
Speaker 1: look at it and say, like, like, what are we losing? Right?

2225
01:56:29,880 --> 01:56:32,880
Speaker 1: And I might be able to gain I might be

2226
01:56:33,000 --> 01:56:34,880
Speaker 1: able I might be able to find out I'm gaining

2227
01:56:34,920 --> 01:56:37,520
Speaker 1: knowledge perfectly put, I might find out that the other

2228
01:56:37,600 --> 01:56:40,040
Speaker 1: guy has more than I thought, because I just again,

2229
01:56:40,160 --> 01:56:44,640
Speaker 1: I feel like, with the right supporting cast, with the

2230
01:56:44,760 --> 01:56:48,560
Speaker 1: right coach, that Mac Jones might not be in this

2231
01:56:48,720 --> 01:56:51,600
Speaker 1: elite top five quarterback ever, but I think he can

2232
01:56:51,680 --> 01:56:54,440
Speaker 1: be a stable NFL starter, And I think that that's

2233
01:56:54,520 --> 01:56:59,720
Speaker 1: worth keeping, keeping him bought into being here. It's worth

2234
01:56:59,800 --> 01:57:04,960
Speaker 1: it because the alternative is is somebody that you know,

2235
01:57:05,360 --> 01:57:08,440
Speaker 1: it's like the it's the old family guy in mystery box, right, Like, Okay,

2236
01:57:08,480 --> 01:57:10,360
Speaker 1: So we go back into the first round and we

2237
01:57:10,480 --> 01:57:13,600
Speaker 1: take another quarterback and then hopefully that guy you know,

2238
01:57:13,720 --> 01:57:16,760
Speaker 1: like we're doing it all over. Yeah, I'm just if

2239
01:57:16,800 --> 01:57:18,440
Speaker 1: he's if we can get him back to where he

2240
01:57:18,600 --> 01:57:21,040
Speaker 1: was last year and he's Kirk Cousins, Derek Carr or

2241
01:57:21,080 --> 01:57:23,400
Speaker 1: something like that. For you, and that's better than nothing.

2242
01:57:23,560 --> 01:57:26,440
Speaker 1: I'm operating under the assumption that they have decided that

2243
01:57:26,560 --> 01:57:29,360
Speaker 1: that's probably not going to happen. So like if I

2244
01:57:29,440 --> 01:57:32,720
Speaker 1: lose them, yeah, I don't really think I have anything

2245
01:57:32,800 --> 01:57:35,360
Speaker 1: to lose that and I don't think that will happen.

2246
01:57:35,400 --> 01:57:37,480
Speaker 1: I think Mac Jones, barring an injury, is going to

2247
01:57:37,520 --> 01:57:40,600
Speaker 1: play the last three games and business as usual. But yeah,

2248
01:57:40,640 --> 01:57:43,280
Speaker 1: you never know, all right. What I do know is

2249
01:57:43,360 --> 01:57:46,080
Speaker 1: that's it for this edition of Patriots Unfiltered. And I

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Speaker 1: also know that FedEx has been and is ready for

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Speaker 1: the holidays, so you know, it's not just getting your

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Speaker 1: packages for the twenty fifth, but you know there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of post Christmas sales and stuff too that you

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Speaker 1: can use FedEx for. Some of the best deals are

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Speaker 1: right after Christmas, right, So FedEx they're ready for the

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Speaker 1: holidays and beyond and beyond. And also what's coming up? What? Oh,

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Speaker 1: that's right, Catch twenty two. It's Wednesday. I forgot I see, Boffy,

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01:58:14,840 --> 01:58:17,160
Speaker 1: I lost track of what day it is. Catch twenty

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Speaker 1: two is coming up. They'll dive into all the xs

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Speaker 1: and o's of last game in this game and answer

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01:58:23,280 --> 01:58:26,400
Speaker 1: all your questions. So Evan and Alex are ready to

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