WEBVTT - 9021One on One: T.C. Warner 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:10.440 It's nine with Jenny Garth and Tori Spelling. Okay, you guys, 0:00:10.680 --> 0:00:13.720 we are super excited to bring in TC Warner, who 0:00:13.760 --> 0:00:17.800 played Toby season three of nine O two on Oh 0:00:18.560 --> 0:00:22.959 in some very pivotal episodes for me. And here she is. 0:00:23.280 --> 0:00:27.240 Oh my god, hy y Tory, how are you? I'm well? 0:00:27.280 --> 0:00:31.440 How are you good? Good? Good? Thank you so much 0:00:31.520 --> 0:00:35.080 for having me. Oh my gosh, thank you for coming 0:00:35.080 --> 0:00:37.640 on and making me feel worse about myself because you 0:00:37.640 --> 0:00:39.600 have not aged a day and it's just not fair. 0:00:40.080 --> 0:00:42.879 Oh that's not true, not true at all, and you 0:00:42.920 --> 0:00:46.640 look like you haven't aged even a minute. Oh, thank you. Okay, 0:00:46.640 --> 0:00:51.760 I'll take that. I'll take it. And this is Amy. 0:00:51.800 --> 0:00:53.640 If you have not met her, our producer and co 0:00:53.800 --> 0:01:00.200 host and expert on Hi, Amy, how are you? I'm good? 0:01:00.240 --> 0:01:03.080 I have a lot of behind the scenes questions to 0:01:03.120 --> 0:01:07.920 ask you. She's our literal expert and fans okay, well, 0:01:08.400 --> 0:01:11.120 as Amy knows me, like obviously I love nine O 0:01:11.240 --> 0:01:12.840 two and O because I was a part of it 0:01:13.000 --> 0:01:15.679 and now rewatching it back, I'm now a fan girl. 0:01:16.360 --> 0:01:21.080 But my heart lies with soap operas, so I just 0:01:21.120 --> 0:01:23.200 gotta say, we have to talk all my children after 0:01:23.240 --> 0:01:27.240 we talked nine because I'm okay, okay, but any who, Okay, 0:01:27.280 --> 0:01:30.560 So you played Toby, So what happened? How did you 0:01:30.680 --> 0:01:35.000 get that part? So it was a regular audition, my ago, 0:01:36.000 --> 0:01:39.759 and it was the standard process of callbacks and and 0:01:39.800 --> 0:01:44.280 so on and so forth. And it's kind of seemed 0:01:44.360 --> 0:01:47.080 to us that you guys were kind of coming in 0:01:47.800 --> 0:01:50.600 and they were shifting it to other characters that they 0:01:50.640 --> 0:01:54.120 wanted to keep on at least in our world. Where 0:01:54.200 --> 0:01:56.120 did they tell you how many episodes like it ended 0:01:56.200 --> 0:01:57.920 up being two episodes? Did you think it was going 0:01:57.960 --> 0:02:00.720 to go on? Obviously we're graduating, but you guys could 0:02:00.760 --> 0:02:04.240 have gone on to California University too, just like everybody else. 0:02:04.320 --> 0:02:12.320 So very true, Uh, they had they had whispered words 0:02:12.360 --> 0:02:17.960 and nothing in concrete that they were, um, you know, 0:02:18.080 --> 0:02:23.640 planning on on continuing the story and continuing with the 0:02:25.000 --> 0:02:29.160 with your guys characters and integrating that with the younger generation. 0:02:29.240 --> 0:02:31.840 That was the That's why I was the junior um, 0:02:33.040 --> 0:02:40.240 the junior publisher, whatever newspaper editor, junior editor at large. 0:02:40.360 --> 0:02:43.080 I don't know exactly right, were you going to be 0:02:43.240 --> 0:02:48.399 the next Andrea Zuckerman? Was that sort of the character arc. Oh, 0:02:48.480 --> 0:02:50.839 I don't. I don't know that that was I don't 0:02:50.840 --> 0:02:56.320 think that Andrea could be replaced. Um, but no, I 0:02:56.360 --> 0:02:58.840 think it was just a continuation of the story and 0:02:58.880 --> 0:03:05.680 the writers were preparing to expand and and explore their options. Okay, 0:03:05.760 --> 0:03:09.160 so we have now heard this from how many people 0:03:09.200 --> 0:03:12.519 amy that they were trying to bring in other people, 0:03:12.720 --> 0:03:16.280 many younger, many that they were like, okay, we want 0:03:16.280 --> 0:03:18.920 to continue this storyline because you know, last year they 0:03:18.960 --> 0:03:21.520 were like, they have one more year, and now this season, okay, 0:03:21.560 --> 0:03:25.440 they're graduating, moving on to college. And they had again, 0:03:25.600 --> 0:03:28.840 you know, whispered that there would maybe be the younger 0:03:28.880 --> 0:03:31.880 generation they would keep have two shows. Um, and it 0:03:31.919 --> 0:03:37.960 didn't happen. It should have it. I honestly think that 0:03:38.040 --> 0:03:41.280 they could have kept it going and and still kept 0:03:41.360 --> 0:03:44.600 all of you guys and check with you know, generations 0:03:44.960 --> 0:03:48.520 are are still intact and and the older and younger 0:03:48.680 --> 0:03:52.760 still blend together, and they crossed paths, and it could 0:03:52.800 --> 0:03:55.640 have gone on for many, many years. The writers were 0:03:55.720 --> 0:04:01.280 so phenomenal and longer than all my children. I mean, 0:04:03.160 --> 0:04:05.360 I don't know, I don't know, don't ever compare it 0:04:05.400 --> 0:04:09.440 to that, because all my children, love love, love. But okay, um, 0:04:09.480 --> 0:04:14.160 I mean technically, like, okay, this was you started in 0:04:14.200 --> 0:04:17.280 and I to remember which was the problem episode Donna 0:04:17.320 --> 0:04:20.080 gets drunk, we call it drunked on an episode. And 0:04:21.000 --> 0:04:23.640 I mean, now that I'm thinking about it, Amy correct 0:04:23.640 --> 0:04:27.560 me if I'm wrong. Maybe Donna shouldn't have graduated. Maybe 0:04:27.560 --> 0:04:30.280 she should have gotten held back, and she for once 0:04:30.320 --> 0:04:32.960 could have led the troops, and she could have led 0:04:32.960 --> 0:04:37.279 the spin off, and then Toby and Donna could have 0:04:37.360 --> 0:04:43.279 continued it exactly. Well, in all seriousness, it is interesting 0:04:43.320 --> 0:04:48.279 how they did introduce us to these characters that were 0:04:48.320 --> 0:04:52.039 more than just background, They were more than just one offs. 0:04:52.040 --> 0:04:54.919 They were definitely trying to establish these characters. And obviously 0:04:54.920 --> 0:04:59.279 we'll get into Shawn Levy in a second, but I 0:04:59.440 --> 0:05:02.359 do what I wonder is was their intention to have 0:05:02.440 --> 0:05:05.760 a totally different show that stayed in high school while 0:05:05.760 --> 0:05:08.640 the main gang went to college or were they going 0:05:08.680 --> 0:05:11.159 to sort of? Maybe they just didn't know do duel 0:05:11.360 --> 0:05:15.240 where we were still seeing high school life while our 0:05:15.920 --> 0:05:19.840 our old friends went off to college. Does anyone know that? No? 0:05:20.240 --> 0:05:23.080 I think that format was would be really really awesome, 0:05:23.120 --> 0:05:25.880 where they had the younger and still had the nine 0:05:25.920 --> 0:05:30.200 O two and no going you no one episode for 0:05:30.640 --> 0:05:33.520 the next you know, one at seven o'clock, one at 0:05:33.560 --> 0:05:38.719 eight o'clock to melrose Place and a spinoff, but a 0:05:38.760 --> 0:05:43.960 younger generation spinoff. Yes, although that hybrid show um sounded 0:05:44.000 --> 0:05:48.720 really cool. So I have to bring up so Sean Levy, 0:05:48.760 --> 0:05:52.560 who played sort of your I don't know classmate, but 0:05:52.880 --> 0:05:55.080 you know, they sort of introduced us to both characters 0:05:55.120 --> 0:05:58.880 at the same time. Who has gone on to do 0:05:59.000 --> 0:06:02.320 We've talked about it, all these incredible things, Free guy, 0:06:02.400 --> 0:06:04.560 that Adam project night at the museum. I think he's 0:06:04.560 --> 0:06:06.760 involved with stranger things. So at the do you have 0:06:06.800 --> 0:06:10.360 any memories of what he was like at the time 0:06:10.400 --> 0:06:11.839 as he just sort of like a teen actor or 0:06:11.880 --> 0:06:17.279 did he know I'm going to be this massive director producer. No, 0:06:17.600 --> 0:06:22.400 he's He was very humble, and you know, we were 0:06:22.440 --> 0:06:25.400 we were both kind of shell shocked to be on 0:06:25.640 --> 0:06:28.120 the nine o two and oh and sort of didn't 0:06:28.120 --> 0:06:31.599 know our place. You didn't know everybody, including Tori, was 0:06:31.680 --> 0:06:35.000 so warm and inviting, would run lines with us and 0:06:35.000 --> 0:06:39.680 and do all that stuff. Um. But he was extremely 0:06:39.760 --> 0:06:45.800 funny and very comical. Really, Yes, had a great sense 0:06:45.839 --> 0:06:49.200 of humor, and I don't know now now that I'm 0:06:49.240 --> 0:06:54.200 thinking of it, do you remember it was the wardrobe? Uh? 0:06:55.440 --> 0:06:57.839 I call it an issue, But it was very funny 0:06:57.839 --> 0:07:01.880 because they had wardrobe had put me in top that 0:07:03.080 --> 0:07:05.479 was it looked like it made it look like we 0:07:05.560 --> 0:07:09.840 had two frames of of my breasts, you know, two 0:07:09.960 --> 0:07:15.400 things like do you remember this? No refresh my memory. 0:07:16.240 --> 0:07:21.640 Jason and Luke looked at it, and I remember Gaya 0:07:22.800 --> 0:07:25.480 Terrist looked at it and went um, and we were 0:07:25.520 --> 0:07:32.560 getting ready to rule camera and then um, wardrobe, Uh, 0:07:32.960 --> 0:07:35.880 what do you think of her shirt on camera? What 0:07:35.920 --> 0:07:38.200 do you mean? It littally literally looked like I don't 0:07:38.200 --> 0:07:41.480 remember where that was, but it almost looked like a 0:07:41.600 --> 0:07:45.000 shirt that had and I don't know if they were 0:07:45.080 --> 0:07:47.880 pockets or what they were, but they were definitely like 0:07:48.200 --> 0:07:54.760 big buttons on I don't remember this. Oh my goodness. Wait, 0:07:54.800 --> 0:07:57.040 I love that the It was the cast that called 0:07:57.080 --> 0:08:02.520 it out and no one direct, writer, producer. The cool 0:08:02.560 --> 0:08:04.880 thing about it was that cast really protected each other 0:08:05.480 --> 0:08:08.600 and and they looked over and they went, um, wardrobe, 0:08:08.640 --> 0:08:14.600 we might rethink TC's sure, and they changed it out 0:08:14.680 --> 0:08:17.160 right there on set, and it was I was like, 0:08:17.320 --> 0:08:19.960 thank God, because you know I'm I'm new, I don't 0:08:20.000 --> 0:08:22.280 have any say. I'm like, okay, I'll wear that shirt. 0:08:22.480 --> 0:08:26.240 But you realize you were like, uh, yeah there's something here. 0:08:26.840 --> 0:08:29.280 You just go with the flow. And they looked at 0:08:29.320 --> 0:08:32.200 it and and what, um, yeah she might need some 0:08:32.280 --> 0:08:36.120 help here in wordrobe went oh your god. They changed 0:08:36.160 --> 0:08:39.240 it right away. But yeah, the cast was really really 0:08:39.240 --> 0:08:43.640 cool on that um and there was a lot of camaraderie. 0:08:43.679 --> 0:08:48.560 There wasn't any pretentious don't talk to me, I'm so 0:08:48.720 --> 0:08:51.880 and so or anything like that. There was no no drama. 0:08:52.120 --> 0:08:55.560 Everybody was just nice. So do you guys think it's 0:08:55.640 --> 0:08:59.400 weird that that was the case? Right? So you come 0:08:59.400 --> 0:09:02.960 into this show and you're having this real life experience, 0:09:03.800 --> 0:09:07.760 Why do you guys think tour you as the person involved, 0:09:08.000 --> 0:09:10.880 TC as the person that came into it. The media 0:09:11.440 --> 0:09:17.640 loves to make it seem totally different. How does it 0:09:17.679 --> 0:09:20.920 go from that experience? And then we hear these you know, 0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:24.240 I'm not telling tales, but Jessica Alba had a very 0:09:24.320 --> 0:09:27.920 different experience and that she's talked about. So it's like, 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:30.760 how do we know what the reality was you're telling us? 0:09:30.800 --> 0:09:38.520 The press makes it often seem totally different. Feuds and hierarchy, 0:09:38.640 --> 0:09:41.400 and yeah, I don't. I don't think that that was 0:09:41.559 --> 0:09:43.480 That was not my perception. I call it the red 0:09:43.480 --> 0:09:48.880 carpet syndrome, where that's not real in anybody who lasts 0:09:49.080 --> 0:09:54.520 in this industry. It's you have to have some level 0:09:54.679 --> 0:09:57.400 of being humble and realizing that you're a human. You're 0:09:57.440 --> 0:10:01.640 portraying humans, so you've or have a human aspect to you. 0:10:02.320 --> 0:10:05.720 And if you don't, you've got some far fetched idea 0:10:05.840 --> 0:10:08.800 that you're going to walk in and you've got this 0:10:09.160 --> 0:10:12.680 vibe about you that that energy spills over and people 0:10:13.320 --> 0:10:18.280 run quickly from it. And when I came onto the set, 0:10:18.360 --> 0:10:20.920 there was you know, there's a hallway and everybody had 0:10:20.920 --> 0:10:24.360 their dressing rooms and stuff like that. Everybody's doors were open. 0:10:24.440 --> 0:10:27.400 It was a basketball thing down at the end. Everybody 0:10:27.480 --> 0:10:30.280 was playing and talking with each other and and it 0:10:30.440 --> 0:10:34.839 was very, very welcoming. It wasn't There was no level 0:10:34.960 --> 0:10:39.640 of pretentious, which which I really liked, and I've worked 0:10:39.679 --> 0:10:43.439 on films and so forth where there was the don't 0:10:43.440 --> 0:10:47.400 talk to that person kind of uh, you know level 0:10:47.440 --> 0:10:50.400 going around, But that wasn't the case on nine or 0:10:50.440 --> 0:10:52.760 two and O. And it was far from the case 0:10:52.800 --> 0:10:56.240 on All My Children, and it was really really nice. 0:10:56.320 --> 0:10:59.440 It was there was a lot of camaraderie and and 0:10:59.480 --> 0:11:03.600 it's very hard to make friends in in Hollywood, if 0:11:03.600 --> 0:11:06.559 you will, or in the film industry, because everybody tends 0:11:06.600 --> 0:11:08.959 to take off and they started a project, or they 0:11:09.120 --> 0:11:12.040 get you know, caught in something, and they start to 0:11:13.120 --> 0:11:16.360 do their own thing and and not keep in touch 0:11:16.400 --> 0:11:21.920 with anybody. So it's very cool to have a family 0:11:21.960 --> 0:11:26.280 type setting where you're seeing that person face to face. 0:11:26.320 --> 0:11:28.000 Even though you all have your own private life, to 0:11:28.080 --> 0:11:31.160 all of your own private projects going on and and 0:11:31.200 --> 0:11:34.280 so forth, you still come together and look each other 0:11:34.400 --> 0:11:37.160 in the eye and say how are you and the 0:11:37.200 --> 0:11:40.520 answer is not doing just fine and walking on it's oh, 0:11:40.720 --> 0:11:44.120 this is going on, and you actually communicate with people. 0:11:44.160 --> 0:11:48.680 So it was really nice. It was it was, I 0:11:48.720 --> 0:11:53.839 guess misleading to what really Hollywood is like. But I 0:11:54.760 --> 0:11:57.800 came from Save by the Bell right before N one, oh, 0:11:58.120 --> 0:12:02.120 and I was recurring. But that get the first day 0:12:02.160 --> 0:12:04.320 on set where they were it was the same thing. 0:12:04.600 --> 0:12:06.880 They were a family, they were established, they worked day 0:12:06.880 --> 0:12:09.600 and day out, they were each other's lives and walking 0:12:09.640 --> 0:12:13.920 onto that set was super scary and some people were 0:12:14.080 --> 0:12:18.120 amazing and some people weren't. And it stayed with me. 0:12:21.720 --> 0:12:25.000 All right, I'll text you it was who was wonderful? 0:12:25.160 --> 0:12:28.160 Can you say that Elizabeth Berkeley was the kindest human 0:12:28.440 --> 0:12:30.640 And she literally I just saw her recently and I 0:12:30.840 --> 0:12:33.560 and we've been friends off and on for the whole 0:12:33.640 --> 0:12:36.080 time since for thirty years. And I said, you know what, 0:12:36.160 --> 0:12:38.520 I still carry it with me. You taught me how 0:12:38.559 --> 0:12:41.400 to be in this industry because of the experience that 0:12:41.480 --> 0:12:44.040 you gave to me. I went on to pay it 0:12:44.120 --> 0:12:47.320 forward on nine two. I Owey's was nice to guest 0:12:47.320 --> 0:12:51.320 stars because I know it is so scary and it 0:12:51.360 --> 0:12:53.920 can make or break you know, your performance or how 0:12:54.080 --> 0:12:58.080 your whole So it's so important And to this day, 0:12:58.120 --> 0:13:00.679 I'm still like that. Um So, I think that's such 0:13:00.720 --> 0:13:02.719 an interesting thing you just said there, Tory, and I 0:13:02.720 --> 0:13:05.120 wond't know if TC feels the same. You just said 0:13:05.120 --> 0:13:07.880 it can make or break your performance. So that's so 0:13:08.040 --> 0:13:10.559 interesting that that talk about that. I would love to 0:13:10.600 --> 0:13:12.560 hear about that from both of you, that it is 0:13:12.600 --> 0:13:17.079 so important that behind the scenes to doing your best 0:13:17.120 --> 0:13:22.120 work well really really quickly. So a story about Luke 0:13:22.120 --> 0:13:25.120 Perry I had I was the first day on the set, 0:13:25.200 --> 0:13:29.560 and something happened with my car and I went, oh, um, Mike, 0:13:29.880 --> 0:13:33.640 he asked, and I said, my my car broke down. 0:13:33.679 --> 0:13:35.480 I got to ride from my friend and he said, oh, 0:13:35.480 --> 0:13:37.640 don't worry about I'll pick you up. And every day 0:13:37.679 --> 0:13:41.400 going into the set, he swung by in his Mini 0:13:41.480 --> 0:13:45.440 Bronco and picked me up and took me to the set. 0:13:46.920 --> 0:13:49.160 So it was very cool. It was it was just, 0:13:49.440 --> 0:13:52.480 you know, he told me his story with Aaron Spelling, 0:13:52.600 --> 0:13:57.600 and and he was the one who everybody on this 0:13:57.760 --> 0:14:01.120 set is very cool and are you know, they're very 0:14:01.120 --> 0:14:05.760 approachable and and all that, and I believed him and 0:14:06.000 --> 0:14:08.960 until I saw it and I was like, Hi, Tori, 0:14:09.679 --> 0:14:15.439 so hi, how are you welcome? And the whole wardrobe mishappened. 0:14:15.480 --> 0:14:21.560 Everybody was really a family there. There wasn't any spats 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:38.000 or anything like, gosh, that's such an amazing story. Do 0:14:38.080 --> 0:14:40.400 you remember any of the story he told you about 0:14:40.440 --> 0:14:43.360 my dad? I just love to hear, like, any any 0:14:43.400 --> 0:14:45.960 anecdotes about my dad. Obviously I miss him and I 0:14:46.000 --> 0:14:49.040 miss Luke dearly, so it's nice to hear. So he 0:14:49.200 --> 0:14:56.320 said his his start was Aaron Spelling. Had you know 0:14:56.400 --> 0:15:00.600 there was he was feeling like he wasn't really being 0:15:00.640 --> 0:15:03.800 accepted or considered in a lot of things. And Aaron 0:15:03.880 --> 0:15:10.080 Spelling really extended himself and believed in Luke and put 0:15:10.120 --> 0:15:15.880 himself out there for Luke Perry, and and I, you know, 0:15:16.120 --> 0:15:18.440 I was in awe. It was like, how how does 0:15:18.520 --> 0:15:24.920 that happen? How does that miracle of connection actually begin? 0:15:25.920 --> 0:15:31.800 And Luke said, Aaron Spelling was one of those people 0:15:31.960 --> 0:15:37.760 who but when he believed in people, he put everything 0:15:37.800 --> 0:15:44.040 out there for him. He overextended himself greatly, and and 0:15:44.160 --> 0:15:51.640 he really made Luke Perry. So I it's just it's 0:15:51.760 --> 0:15:54.840 another one of those things that extends down and says, 0:15:55.560 --> 0:15:59.560 I'm walking into something that I would really appreciate being 0:15:59.600 --> 0:16:03.920 except did too. I won't make that expectation, but I 0:16:04.000 --> 0:16:06.960 certainly would hope one day that I could be part 0:16:06.960 --> 0:16:12.360 of this whole. And I just remember his stories about 0:16:13.760 --> 0:16:16.720 he had come across quite a bit of rejection like 0:16:16.880 --> 0:16:22.160 many of us, and your dad just said, don't stop. 0:16:22.320 --> 0:16:25.960 I'm behind you. You can do this and it'll happen. 0:16:26.520 --> 0:16:29.360 Just keep keep pushing forward. It's nice to hear someone 0:16:29.440 --> 0:16:32.240 else tell the story. I believe I've told the story 0:16:32.360 --> 0:16:36.960 from behind the scenes with my dad hearing it happen. Um. 0:16:37.000 --> 0:16:39.320 And I don't know if Luke and I ever talked 0:16:39.360 --> 0:16:41.560 about that story. So it was nice that he told 0:16:41.600 --> 0:16:44.320 you and I got to hear it from his perspective. 0:16:44.640 --> 0:16:49.080 That meant a lot to me. But yeah, I remember 0:16:49.200 --> 0:16:52.200 my dad saying this, this is the guy, this is 0:16:52.240 --> 0:16:56.920 who I want. Fox was not sold. Um, we all 0:16:57.040 --> 0:16:58.960 we both know this. It's typical when you go in 0:16:59.080 --> 0:17:01.880 you test, you know, through people. And he said, I'm 0:17:01.880 --> 0:17:03.960 only testing him, I'm bringing him and they said that's 0:17:04.000 --> 0:17:05.840 not done. We need to other people to come in 0:17:06.560 --> 0:17:10.720 and um, and he said, no, it's just him. Um, 0:17:10.720 --> 0:17:12.800 he's testing board and this is who it's going to be. 0:17:12.840 --> 0:17:16.080 We're casting him. And if you don't believe in him, 0:17:16.160 --> 0:17:18.120 then I will put forth my own money and pay 0:17:18.200 --> 0:17:21.160 and and pay his fee. Like you mentioned that as well. 0:17:21.240 --> 0:17:26.320 He said that your dad believed. But you know what, 0:17:28.480 --> 0:17:30.800 so used to being an influencer now, damn it. I 0:17:30.960 --> 0:17:37.800 nuturally supported. Yes, he said he would personally pay for him. Yes, 0:17:38.840 --> 0:17:43.080 and and he Luke was very I think you know. 0:17:43.119 --> 0:17:49.680 Our conversations were more around how did you start, how 0:17:49.720 --> 0:17:55.200 did you get here? What's your story? And and all that, 0:17:56.119 --> 0:17:58.879 UM and I shared my stories and stuff like that. 0:17:58.960 --> 0:18:02.800 So there was UM and I think that was right 0:18:02.880 --> 0:18:08.080 at the time when he was he wasn't married yet, 0:18:08.160 --> 0:18:12.119 he was just in the relationship with his wife, and 0:18:12.119 --> 0:18:16.840 he was telling me and and all that good stuff. 0:18:16.880 --> 0:18:20.879 So it was conversation. It was very open and willing 0:18:20.920 --> 0:18:26.439 to share personal things that do you know him before? No? No, 0:18:26.640 --> 0:18:29.520 my gosh, the story is incredible. So this is just 0:18:29.600 --> 0:18:33.360 how he was, like, you're you're on this set. You 0:18:33.480 --> 0:18:41.159 now belong right? Oh right? Yeah? Who? So that's the 0:18:41.200 --> 0:18:44.040 first person on set that you met? Wasn't Luke? Was 0:18:44.040 --> 0:18:46.159 that the first person? Or do you remember who you 0:18:46.560 --> 0:18:49.960 it was Luke? It was like, and then it was Jason, 0:18:50.240 --> 0:18:59.400 and then Gabrielle and Um and then obviously wardrobe and 0:18:59.400 --> 0:19:03.200 and so forth. But and then playing basketball, which I 0:19:03.200 --> 0:19:07.800 am horrible at, has nothing to do with my height deficiency, 0:19:08.359 --> 0:19:12.159 has everything to do with that basketball basket was not 0:19:12.359 --> 0:19:14.119 high up. It was just on the door. And I 0:19:14.119 --> 0:19:18.280 still couldn't make the basket, but they let me play. 0:19:19.400 --> 0:19:22.000 You and Jason would have been such a cute couple, 0:19:22.640 --> 0:19:26.520 wouldn't we That would have been good. Just don't tell 0:19:26.600 --> 0:19:31.800 my husband now and I'm in on the show, but 0:19:32.160 --> 0:19:35.359 real life too, I know, I know, I mean, I like, okay, 0:19:35.359 --> 0:19:37.920 so I have to ask. So in our timeline right now, 0:19:38.040 --> 0:19:44.159 we have just finished watching the prom episode, and I 0:19:44.200 --> 0:19:47.000 don't think it's a spoiler that we know what's coming 0:19:47.160 --> 0:19:50.479 is Donna Martin graduates, which I think you could argue 0:19:50.680 --> 0:19:54.440 is one of the most iconic episodes of Now Too 0:19:54.480 --> 0:19:57.760 one oh in the tenure run. What is it like 0:19:58.480 --> 0:20:04.080 to be a part of that episode? It was pretty amazing. 0:20:04.200 --> 0:20:08.720 There was I remember Iron and everybody, and they're all 0:20:08.840 --> 0:20:13.960 out on the steps, and and I remember some of 0:20:14.000 --> 0:20:18.240 the lines when we were talking about editing the paper 0:20:18.280 --> 0:20:20.880 and stuff were there was the word this is an 0:20:20.880 --> 0:20:26.200 appropriate epitaph and I, for some reason epitaph. The word 0:20:26.240 --> 0:20:33.240 epitaph would not it just epitaph surface And I don't 0:20:33.240 --> 0:20:39.160 know what word I was saying, epitaph or something weird um, 0:20:40.720 --> 0:20:46.399 And and there was this this uh scramble of do 0:20:46.520 --> 0:20:51.119 we are we pushing for the right thing? Are we saying? 0:20:51.160 --> 0:20:54.840 You know, Donna Martin is an example to all the 0:20:54.880 --> 0:20:58.000 rest of the junior class and the sophomores and the 0:20:58.080 --> 0:21:01.920 freshman and she got drunk it prom and is this appropriate, 0:21:01.960 --> 0:21:04.280 and do we let her get away with this? And 0:21:04.840 --> 0:21:07.719 you know what's the consequence? And then everybody out on 0:21:07.760 --> 0:21:12.280 the steps and it was hot that day. I remember, oh, 0:21:13.760 --> 0:21:18.080 you know, doing their their chant of Donna Martin graduates? 0:21:18.080 --> 0:21:21.439 And do we get behind her? Or is my character 0:21:21.560 --> 0:21:25.080 that kind of steadfast on? No, we have to do 0:21:25.160 --> 0:21:28.440 right by society and be an example and not let 0:21:28.440 --> 0:21:30.919 her graduate, you know that kind of thing? Or do 0:21:31.000 --> 0:21:36.680 I go with everybody else? And was let's remember what happens, 0:21:36.840 --> 0:21:42.520 we don't spoil it. I don't know what happened. I mean, 0:21:42.520 --> 0:21:44.359 I know what happens, but I don't know what your 0:21:44.440 --> 0:21:48.000 character decided. And that word I can't imagine ever saying 0:21:48.040 --> 0:21:50.080 that word that I would freak out. I'd be like, 0:21:50.320 --> 0:21:56.840 uh so, do you remember what they were actually chanting outside? 0:21:57.280 --> 0:22:00.399 That was not Donna Martin graduates? And I allowed to 0:22:00.440 --> 0:22:07.640 say this. Yes, you are definitely tory. You're testing me now, 0:22:08.920 --> 0:22:12.000 I'm not. I swear I think he told the Iron 0:22:12.080 --> 0:22:15.919 has told the story on the show. Correct, he has Okay, 0:22:16.119 --> 0:22:26.000 it wasn't graduates? Oh yes it was? Um is this 0:22:26.080 --> 0:22:31.520 an age appropriate audience? Yes, it was started with the 0:22:31.600 --> 0:22:39.640 letter m TC. It was masturbates masbates. What you say 0:22:39.760 --> 0:22:46.040 you remember who started? I don't. I don't, but it 0:22:46.080 --> 0:22:49.240 was either Jason or Iron. But is there a footage 0:22:49.359 --> 0:22:56.439 somewhere we should you know what? Uh? Larry Mullen, who 0:22:56.560 --> 0:22:59.520 was the one of the producers, he has tons of 0:23:00.000 --> 0:23:03.320 behind the scenes daily so I wonder if he has that. 0:23:03.680 --> 0:23:06.280 Somebody must That would be so funny. It's been plenty 0:23:06.280 --> 0:23:11.600 of time. It was. It was very clear. So you 0:23:11.720 --> 0:23:17.200 recognized for a long period of time from that episode. Yes, 0:23:18.480 --> 0:23:22.360 And I think when you live in Los Angeles, everybody 0:23:22.400 --> 0:23:24.600 thinks that they're famous. So you can go to the 0:23:24.600 --> 0:23:28.879 grocery store and nobody will bug you because they think 0:23:28.960 --> 0:23:33.600 that you should be recognizing them. So it's quite to 0:23:33.760 --> 0:23:39.240 live in in Los Angeles anywhere outside of of l A. 0:23:39.560 --> 0:23:42.880 I would, you know, my I grew up in Santa Fe, 0:23:42.880 --> 0:23:46.280 New Mexico, and so I would come back and visit 0:23:46.359 --> 0:23:52.360 family and and so forth, and immediately it was are 0:23:52.400 --> 0:23:56.680 you are your Toby? Aren't you? Aren't you Toby one? Two? 0:23:56.680 --> 0:23:59.800 And oh? And I would kind of be caught off 0:24:00.000 --> 0:24:03.720 hard because I'm not used to that, and I'd only 0:24:03.800 --> 0:24:08.640 done several TV movies and and stuff like that I've done. 0:24:10.040 --> 0:24:14.640 I've done a bit, but um not to be recognizable 0:24:14.720 --> 0:24:19.399 as somebody so such as a staple, so I would 0:24:19.600 --> 0:24:21.959 you know they would they would ask me, are you 0:24:22.000 --> 0:24:24.280 are you pushing for her to graduate? Are you not 0:24:26.359 --> 0:24:29.879 to Martin doing? What is she doing? And wanting to 0:24:29.960 --> 0:24:33.040 inside Scoop and stuff like that, and then they'd say, oh, 0:24:33.040 --> 0:24:36.119 good job, you know, you did a great job. That 0:24:36.280 --> 0:24:38.680 kind of thing. And then they'd asked for my autograph 0:24:38.720 --> 0:24:44.600 and they'd asked me to sign it TC as Toby. No. Yeah, right, 0:24:46.400 --> 0:24:48.760 fans always want you to put your character name after 0:24:48.800 --> 0:24:53.440 your name. Really, yes, that's a big deal. Wait, so 0:24:53.520 --> 0:24:57.240 to this, to this day, I sign every Sometimes I 0:24:57.359 --> 0:25:00.840 forget and I'm like, oh, you're younger. You recognize me 0:25:00.880 --> 0:25:03.040 from like Scary Movie two or something. I always know 0:25:03.280 --> 0:25:06.720 people's ages by what they recognized me from. Um, but 0:25:06.960 --> 0:25:12.160 our generation. I always write Tori spelling and then write Donna, 0:25:12.400 --> 0:25:17.720 like yeah, Donna, and then put nine O two and 0:25:17.800 --> 0:25:22.720 oh afterwards. It's very important to them, especially collectors. I 0:25:22.720 --> 0:25:26.199 think I just saw Henry Winkler signing some things and 0:25:26.280 --> 0:25:30.080 he does include the fonds I think sometimes so that 0:25:30.119 --> 0:25:34.280 makes sense. They love it. Yeah, oh, my god, And 0:25:34.400 --> 0:25:38.920 do you do you both think that's cool? Oh? I do. 0:25:39.280 --> 0:25:41.560 I think it's cool. It makes them happy, which makes 0:25:41.600 --> 0:25:43.840 me happy. So I like to you know, that's the 0:25:44.000 --> 0:25:46.840 feeling I get from it, is that if they're happy, 0:25:46.880 --> 0:25:51.440 that makes me happy for sure. But then you went 0:25:51.560 --> 0:25:56.800 on to be very recognizable as Kelsey and all my children, 0:25:56.960 --> 0:26:03.520 and so then they were like Toby, who Right, Wait, 0:26:03.760 --> 0:26:06.520 both of you started so young? What is you know 0:26:06.520 --> 0:26:09.439 people always talk about like, oh, it's that's so hard, 0:26:09.520 --> 0:26:11.320 or you didn't have a life, or you didn't have 0:26:11.359 --> 0:26:13.840 a prom or high school whatever. What is the best 0:26:13.920 --> 0:26:18.960 part for both of you of starting work and in 0:26:19.080 --> 0:26:25.760 this profession so young? Go first story, I don't know, 0:26:25.800 --> 0:26:29.160 because I don't know any difference, right, Like, I grew 0:26:29.280 --> 0:26:34.840 up doing it, so I don't. I don't know. I can't. 0:26:34.920 --> 0:26:36.359 I don't know how to even answer that because I 0:26:36.359 --> 0:26:37.879 don't know what life would have been like if I 0:26:37.920 --> 0:26:46.600 hadn't started so young. It's yeah. So for me, um, 0:26:46.640 --> 0:26:49.120 it was I came to a point where I realized 0:26:49.160 --> 0:26:53.680 I was married to the industry because you had to 0:26:53.760 --> 0:26:57.320 pay so much attention to that and put that as 0:26:57.359 --> 0:27:00.280 a priority in anything and everything every just as and 0:27:00.280 --> 0:27:04.600