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Speaker 1: It's nine with Jenny Garth and Tori Spelling. Okay, you guys,

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Speaker 1: we are super excited to bring in TC Warner, who

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Speaker 1: played Toby season three of nine O two on Oh

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Speaker 1: in some very pivotal episodes for me. And here she is.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, hy y Tory, how are you? I'm well?

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Speaker 1: How are you good? Good? Good? Thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for having me. Oh my gosh, thank you for coming

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Speaker 1: on and making me feel worse about myself because you

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Speaker 1: have not aged a day and it's just not fair.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's not true, not true at all, and you

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Speaker 1: look like you haven't aged even a minute. Oh, thank you. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'll take that. I'll take it. And this is Amy.

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Speaker 1: If you have not met her, our producer and co

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Speaker 1: host and expert on Hi, Amy, how are you? I'm good?

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Speaker 1: I have a lot of behind the scenes questions to

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Speaker 1: ask you. She's our literal expert and fans okay, well,

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Speaker 1: as Amy knows me, like obviously I love nine O

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Speaker 1: two and O because I was a part of it

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Speaker 1: and now rewatching it back, I'm now a fan girl.

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Speaker 1: But my heart lies with soap operas, so I just

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Speaker 1: gotta say, we have to talk all my children after

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Speaker 1: we talked nine because I'm okay, okay, but any who, Okay,

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Speaker 1: So you played Toby, So what happened? How did you

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Speaker 1: get that part? So it was a regular audition, my ago,

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Speaker 1: and it was the standard process of callbacks and and

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Speaker 1: so on and so forth. And it's kind of seemed

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Speaker 1: to us that you guys were kind of coming in

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Speaker 1: and they were shifting it to other characters that they

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Speaker 1: wanted to keep on at least in our world. Where

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Speaker 1: did they tell you how many episodes like it ended

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Speaker 1: up being two episodes? Did you think it was going

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Speaker 1: to go on? Obviously we're graduating, but you guys could

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Speaker 1: have gone on to California University too, just like everybody else.

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Speaker 1: So very true, Uh, they had they had whispered words

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Speaker 1: and nothing in concrete that they were, um, you know,

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Speaker 1: planning on on continuing the story and continuing with the

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Speaker 1: with your guys characters and integrating that with the younger generation.

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Speaker 1: That was the That's why I was the junior um,

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Speaker 1: the junior publisher, whatever newspaper editor, junior editor at large.

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Speaker 1: I don't know exactly right, were you going to be

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Speaker 1: the next Andrea Zuckerman? Was that sort of the character arc. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know that that was I don't

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Speaker 1: think it was just a continuation of the story and

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Speaker 1: the writers were preparing to expand and and explore their options. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so we have now heard this from how many people

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Speaker 1: amy that they were trying to bring in other people,

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Speaker 1: many younger, many that they were like, okay, we want

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Speaker 1: to continue this storyline because you know, last year they

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Speaker 1: were like, they have one more year, and now this season, okay,

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Speaker 1: they're graduating, moving on to college. And they had again,

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Speaker 1: you know, whispered that there would maybe be the younger

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Speaker 1: didn't happen. It should have it. I honestly think that

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Speaker 1: all of you guys and check with you know, generations

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Speaker 1: have gone on for many, many years. The writers were

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know, don't ever compare it

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Speaker 1: continued it exactly. Well, in all seriousness, it is interesting

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Speaker 1: how they did introduce us to these characters that were

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Speaker 1: thinking of it, do you remember it was the wardrobe? Uh?

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Speaker 1: Can I go back and change my answer? After him

427
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: blew me away? Like everything you just said, I was like, wow,

428
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 1: very amazing, thank you? And what word couldn't you say atab?

429
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? Yeah? So would you? Would you

430
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 1: rate your nine o two one oh experience as a

431
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 1: good marriage at that time? Absolutely? And I wanted it

432
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 1: to continue so badly, so badly. It was, you know,

433
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 1: it was a flavor of the best of the best.

434
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 1: It was. That's so nice to hear. Did you keep

435
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 1: in touch with Sean Leevy? Oh no, I haven't really,

436
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 1: um just here and there. You should have, We all

437
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 1: should have. I know, right, I did think he was

438
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:57,719
Speaker 1: cute when he was on this. Did you think that

439
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 1: was funny? TC? When you because there was obviously a

440
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 1: gap between the time you worked together and he became

441
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 1: sort of this, you know, very prolific director and high

442
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 1: profile person in entertainment, did you go, wait a minute,

443
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 1: did you ever have that moment You're like, I think

444
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 1: that dude was in the classroom with me at the

445
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 1: school paper. Remember, um No, but I could see it

446
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 1: in him. He's very he was extremely intelligent. He was

447
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 1: very intelligent. He was he wasn't he didn't fit the

448
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 1: category of uh, the very I guess the stereotype of

449
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 1: actor model type. Um. His brain was always going, I

450
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 1: mean always who was saying, oh, you should do this,

451
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 1: you should do that without you know, unrequested, and and

452
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 1: his mind was always going on what he wanted to

453
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 1: do and where he wanted ago. I loved hearing that.

454
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 1: Did he say he wanted to direct and produce? Oh?

455
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 1: Yeah he did? Wow, so he knew. Yeah, it's so interesting.

456
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 1: My takeaway from this conversation, which is has has so

457
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 1: unexpected I wasn't axpessing it to be, is there is

458
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 1: something that you know immediately for you all when someone

459
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 1: in this show business has it. Because it sounds to

460
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 1: me like like your dad, Tory knew from moment one

461
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 1: with Luke, Yes, this guy's got it. And TC is

462
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 1: saying the same thing about Luke Ann Sean like these

463
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: people there's something star like about them. Yeah, they're always

464
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 1: yearning to move forward. And and I'm I'm always want

465
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 1: anything around. The film industry to me is solution oriented

466
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: and and for me even going to film school when

467
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 1: I when I graduated, I want you know what I

468
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 1: learned that there's a ton of problems to be solved,

469
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: and you know, to walk away with the film degree

470
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 1: and say that is the story of life in this

471
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 1: industry is there's always going to be a problem that

472
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 1: has to be solved. And if people stay stuck in

473
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 1: the problem and we want to wind and complain and well,

474
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 1: because of this and this and this, nobody wants to

475
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 1: hear those they want us hear more so, how you're

476
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 1: working towards the solution. What are you doing to fix it?

477
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 1: There's always going to be a problem. There's always going

478
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 1: to be an obstacle, and if there wasn't an obstacle,

479
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 1: nobody would be doing it because there's no obstacle. M

480
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 1: it's it's too late for me to go to film school. No.

481
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 1: I was supposed to go to USC and I wanted

482
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: a major in film. I wanted I wanted to be

483
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 1: a writer and producer like that was my end. Gold

484
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 1: still is um And I deferred the first year at

485
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:02,239
Speaker 1: USC two because show kept going and we didn't know.

486
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 1: And then I went to California University on TV and

487
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 1: never went to college in real life. And now I

488
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 1: don't have a film degree, and now I'm at the

489
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 1: point where I's like, gosh, you know, would I'd be

490
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 1: taking more seriously if I have that to back it up.

491
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 1: You know, like when people are like, okay when you

492
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 1: because I create projects a lot, but you know they

493
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 1: why am I not considered, you know, a writer as well? Um, well,

494
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. I see you more as an executive,

495
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 1: one who has such full knowledge of everything. And a

496
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: good executive is going to hire qualified people and then

497
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 1: let them do their job. And if if you've got

498
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 1: a project in mind, you're the kind of person and

499
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 1: personality and drive that will actually execute it and make

500
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 1: it happen. And even if you went to film school today,

501
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 1: I'm not saying don't at so do if you want

502
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 1: to all of the new mediums that are out there,

503
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 1: those are things that you'll be taught. Right when I

504
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 1: was in film school, it was the time where it

505
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 1: was still celluloid. It wasn't it was online and offline

506
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:19,959
Speaker 1: blending in. And that's why my interdisciplinary masters didn't really

507
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 1: work because now you have everything in the digital medium,

508
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 1: and you have the quality and ease and convenience of

509
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:35,720
Speaker 1: doing that that your your education would be shortened by

510
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 1: a lot. But you've already got the life experience. And

511
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 1: there's no better training than on the job training, right,

512
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 1: so you've already got a lifetime of that tory. But

513
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 1: I do think like a producer, so it would make

514
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 1: a good reality show though, I'm just say, wait before

515
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 1: we go, what's your favorite memory of the nine O

516
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 1: two one O experience that you have. I think my

517
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 1: favorite memory was just being greeted by everybody walked down

518
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:12,800
Speaker 1: the hallway in on set on the sound stage, and

519
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,879
Speaker 1: everybody just saying oh, Hi, Hi, I'm so and so

520
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:19,359
Speaker 1: and extending their arm where you know, you're sort of going,

521
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,399
Speaker 1: I don't know if I should kind of duck and

522
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: not look at them or you know, and they were

523
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,879
Speaker 1: all just like, Hi, who are you? So it was

524
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:32,760
Speaker 1: it was there inviting way of allowing me and making

525
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: me feel comfortable in and a new ground that I

526
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: was walking on, and and just the camaraderie of the

527
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:47,320
Speaker 1: talent and dedication that everybody had. You did have the

528
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 1: luxury though of first appearing in the news room, right,

529
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,240
Speaker 1: so you got to work with the nicest of the nicest,

530
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 1: so that that was good. Um. But yeah, and that translated,

531
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:06,720
Speaker 1: It really did because your character Toby and Sean Levy's

532
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 1: character Howard really automatically felt like they were part of

533
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 1: the group. I felt like you weren't like, oh, jarred

534
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 1: by new characters. It was like, oh, yeah, we believe

535
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 1: they go to school together and they've worked together now

536
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: even though they're you know, juniors and and we were seniors.

537
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 1: But wait sophomore junior junior as junior junior. Um. Yeah,

538
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 1: so that is awesome. Wait uh, what do you have

539
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 1: anything in the in the world in the works that

540
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 1: was such a I do. I have a feature film

541
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 1: that we shot during COVID, interestingly enough, called The Man

542
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 1: Who Thought that He was Salvador Dolly And and that's

543
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: with Philippe Mora, who did Mad Dog Morgan, he did

544
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 1: Communion Brother, Can You Spare Dime? And it's really about

545
00:36:56,600 --> 00:37:02,919
Speaker 1: the Man who thought that he was Salvador Dolly. Um.

546
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 1: I played Tessa rush A Rent and she interviews this

547
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:15,760
Speaker 1: man who thinks that he is Salvador Dali and it

548
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:20,760
Speaker 1: it and it's a very creative way of investigating whether

549
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 1: Salvador Dali had a sadistic side to him or or not.

550
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 1: I mean, artists are artists, and and it it's it's

551
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 1: still in production now, it's tying up and going to

552
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,720
Speaker 1: go into post very soon. If anyone's in their car

553
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 1: google or not, you shouldn't do this and drive. But

554
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 1: if anyone's googling Salvador Dolly, I am also, Oh I

555
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 1: knew I knew he was on important? Is this based

556
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 1: on a real man that actually thought he was Salvador

557
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: Dolly or now? No? Completely fictional? Okay, yeah, yeah, So

558
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 1: I'm working on that and that's great. I want to

559
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 1: see that. Yeah, that's hastening. And then the other thing

560
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 1: that I'm working on is a documentary that I'm uh

561
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 1: doing on Charlie Pete. And Charlie Pete happens to be

562
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 1: my uncle. Um, and he's got he's just he comes

563
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:25,359
Speaker 1: from a family line of railroad executives, if you will,

564
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 1: and he's had life adventures that many authors have approached

565
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 1: him and um, lots of people have said, I really

566
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 1: want to tell your story. I mean everything from running

567
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 1: the trans Amazon nine thousand mile race on a on

568
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:47,320
Speaker 1: a Harley and becoming number two in Harley's Toughest Riders.

569
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 1: Um to building airplanes, a car collection, crashing two planes,

570
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: training bear at fostering a black bear, and I mean,

571
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 1: this always go on and on and on. So I

572
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 1: approached him and said, Charlie, we're telling your story and

573
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 1: I'm going to do it. And he looked at me

574
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 1: and he went, Okay, let's do it. So we're just

575
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: in production on that. I stand by my comparison of

576
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: TC to Andrea Zuckerman. I stand by that very smart,

577
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 1: very How easy or hard was it to get that

578
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 1: project made? Once you decide you wanted to do it?

579
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 1: He was like, I want you to tell my story.

580
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 1: The prep work for it goes hours and hours and hours.

581
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 1: It's a lot of writing and a lot of just

582
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 1: structuring on what it's gonna look like. The hard parts

583
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 1: that I get stuck on is the formatting, because you've

584
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 1: got to create a a seamless um lead motif if

585
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: you will, of what that is going to look like.

586
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 1: And that's where I am right now. I've got the

587
00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 1: stories all laid out. I'm going back to Wyoming to

588
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 1: do more filming, and um, we've got a lot of footage,

589
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 1: but it's putting it together and having that look seamless

590
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 1: and um and what that looks like overall. I mean,

591
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 1: these stories go for We've we've got endless hours of

592
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 1: his stories of his life. He's ninety years old now, yes,

593
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 1: so it's it's getting time to we've got to do

594
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 1: this and we've got to do this now. So it's timely.

595
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 1: And one thing he said was it's called thank God.

596
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 1: And a lot of his adventures and situations that he

597
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:45,240
Speaker 1: was in he survived and was here today because of

598
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 1: his belief in God and how he he has used

599
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 1: that as his solution to many situations that he's been in.

600
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 1: And I don't know how you can crash your own

601
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 1: plane twice and walk out, but and the planes that

602
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 1: he built, So that's you know, it's a story that

603
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,360
Speaker 1: has to be told and it's right now. And putting

604
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 1: it all together and making it look very and feel

605
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 1: very seamless, that's the tough part about it. Wow, I

606
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 1: thought I just loved you because you were pregnant with

607
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 1: Bobby Warner's baby. That's all my children reference for anyone

608
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 1: that hasn't singer and all my children. Um, but it

609
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 1: goes so far beyond that. TC Warner, you are amazing

610
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 1: and fascinating. I could literally listen to you speak all day.

611
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for reconnecting me with you. Everybody

612
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 1: get ready because this was our preview too. Donna Martin graduates. Uh,

613
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 1: it's something in the air. I think the episode sounds

614
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 1: something in the air. Can't wait to watch it. Thank you,

615
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:59,919
Speaker 1: TC so much, Thank you to thank I mean thank

616
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:07,360
Speaker 1: everybody else for listening in bye. I love that Luke story.

617
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 1: That was amazing. He picked her up for he was

618
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 1: in the height. That was the height of Luke Perry

619
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 1: was everything. He picked her up for work every day,

620
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 1: every day. The person he just met because they went

621
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 1: on the show, but that was him. That was that

622
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 1: story right there, described him perfectly. That is unbelievable. I

623
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 1: need to be that nice. I'm not sure I would do.

624
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 1: Let's get a lot of traffic, maybe not as much

625
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 1: back then, a little bit less. Love you, talk to

626
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 1: you later.