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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Command Center Podcast. I'm Logan Paulson here

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Speaker 1: with Fred Smooth and Santana Moss and guys, where People's Point,

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Speaker 1: People's Choice podcast towards not many one time, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: get it. I'm gonna say it perfect, really clear, the

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Speaker 1: first time you go get it right, announced it. We

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Speaker 1: won it. Yeah, so we this is the last week

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Speaker 1: we're gonna be able to say that because next week

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Speaker 1: we find out. Next week we find out. So everyone

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Speaker 1: make sure if you got that email, please vote first again.

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Speaker 1: And we're excited to find out. Man, maybe you know,

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Speaker 1: get some hardware here soon, which would be awesome. So

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Speaker 1: really looking forward to that. And then guys, maybe the

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Speaker 1: most exciting news coming out of this Monday night game

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Speaker 1: is we are still the NFC leaders East Leaders. NFC

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Speaker 1: East leaders.

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Speaker 2: Nobody would have thought, yeah, I was, ohbody, this is

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Speaker 2: how you know the NFL is the best longest reality

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Speaker 2: show it is.

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Speaker 1: That's a great point, Fred, because you never know, like

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Speaker 1: I never thought that Tampa Bay would have lost to

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Speaker 1: the Broncos who.

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Speaker 2: Have fout in Minnesota to be leaving the North Right now, Sam, I'm.

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Speaker 3: Gonna Sam Donald, I mean, Sam whould have thought, what

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Speaker 3: his name is? Patrick Willis? And Jane, what is this

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Speaker 3: James Willis? Patrick Willis the quarterback over the Green Bay?

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Speaker 3: What his name?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Where the hell I get Patrick James? Because he was

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Speaker 3: a middle line gotcha, gotcha? But I would have thought

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Speaker 3: he would be looking so good over there, you know.

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Speaker 2: Like I ain't one of them players that I am

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Speaker 2: serious about coaching to players, like it's easy to be

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Speaker 2: with the wrong coach and then y'all can say I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well yeah, And like Matt Lafloor, like to your point,

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Speaker 1: like what he's having him do there, like everyone wanted Mike, Mike,

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Speaker 1: we're able to do that in Tennessee. He never really

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Speaker 1: compromised his vision. And I don't know, man, but I.

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Speaker 3: Felt if anybody can get it done with the quarterback position,

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Speaker 3: with that offense that Matt Lafodam run, it would be

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Speaker 3: a guy like Matt Kyle, because Kyle showed you he

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Speaker 3: did it here.

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Speaker 2: I got gonna start speaking on McConnell. He parted that

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Speaker 2: tree too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah O'Connell, Ye not McConnell.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was O'Connell.

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Speaker 1: You're thinking of it, I said, O'Connell, don't do that.

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Speaker 1: Don't do that now. Yeah. But and then there's the Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: who I don't know what to say about it.

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Speaker 3: I don't get me wrong, I'm coming into the season.

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Speaker 3: I didn't have high hopes for these guys. Like, don't

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Speaker 3: get me wrong, the last few years they've been dominant

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Speaker 3: for the Boys. But just knowing that we took so

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Speaker 3: much away from their defense. You can bring in who

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Speaker 3: you want to bring in and whatever gruel you think,

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Speaker 3: but when you got that much taken away, it's hard

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Speaker 3: to see the same output, you understand. I mean, you

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Speaker 3: can have a couple of key names here and there,

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Speaker 3: but I knew the output was gonna be.

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Speaker 2: They lost a lot of players, they got more expensive,

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Speaker 2: and they got older.

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Speaker 2: So at the end of the day, that mixture right

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Speaker 2: there is not good. They brought they say, let's fix

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Speaker 2: the running game. They brought back Zeke at at thirty

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Speaker 2: nine years old. They was like, all right, well, defense,

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Speaker 2: what we're gonna add to it. Absolutely nothing. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: get a different coordinator. But guess what, this coordinator don't

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Speaker 2: know how to weaponize Michael Parsons. So listen, I'm seeing

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Speaker 2: what's going on over there, and I'm loving it. I

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Speaker 2: guess what it has a lot to.

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Speaker 3: Do with Jared Jallas Often to get to that point

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Speaker 3: about Jerry, how do you feel about him saying that

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Speaker 3: he couldn't afford to running back your boy or Henry?

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Speaker 3: But I'm like you said, then, first of all, and.

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Speaker 2: They got twenty four million dollars of cap space?

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Speaker 1: Is that? Yes? They do? Yeah, that was a bunch

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Speaker 1: of you know, is that including the contract extension that they.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they still got twenty four twenty four But you

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Speaker 2: know they're trying to say that for Michael Parses. But

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Speaker 2: I could see a scenario with Michael Parson's like, you

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Speaker 2: know what, I just come coming out my worst year ever.

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Speaker 2: I might not want to be here no more.

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Speaker 1: Well, I keep thinking about that in terms of saving

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Speaker 1: cap space for this team, like talking about a guy

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Speaker 1: that's got a great relationship with Dan Quinn, yeah, and

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Speaker 1: talking about upping your past rush immediately immediately, you'd have

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Speaker 1: to give a max contract with this guy. You want

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Speaker 2: Contract, I can say, get a max with a max

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Speaker 2: deserve to be right, I take Michael Parsons any day.

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Speaker 3: That's a max.

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Speaker 1: So I think that would be awesome for sure. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: and again, I just feel like every time I'm watching

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Speaker 1: the news and they're talking about Dallas, it's like the

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Speaker 1: are like revolting in the stadium. The players are fighting

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Speaker 1: on the sidelines. I am game.

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Speaker 2: I am enjoying watching the fan base of Dallas because

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Speaker 2: I got family members. That's Dallas fan. You got family

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Speaker 2: ask them, man, how you feel about your squad man?

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Speaker 2: When so it's like for the first time they are

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Speaker 1: It's sober into.

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Speaker 2: Them and they have no expectations like they expectations are dead.

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Speaker 2: Like listen, our arrow is pointed this way, there's sideways.

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Speaker 2: I just pinted down.

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Speaker 1: But I think it's also really frustrating for your dollars fans.

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Speaker 1: You just paid the quarterback and just paid the receivers.

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Speaker 1: You'd expect them to be performing.

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Speaker 2: Well, he just acts like a brand on the sideline

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Speaker 2: Cee Dee lamb. See, that's why I really have sattin

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Speaker 2: of Mosses and Terry McGloin. That's why I received because

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Speaker 2: I got no time for that deva like that. What

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Speaker 2: I can say, thank Lord, I have never really had

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna say something. So like at the end of

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Speaker 2: the day, I love to have just work hat guys.

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Speaker 3: Teach his own. I mean, I think it comes with

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Speaker 3: if you ain't calling you you know what I mean,

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Speaker 3: your number, you don't get that recognition or get those attempts.

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Speaker 3: So but the thing about it also you have to

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Speaker 3: you see the kid over there in saying, Fran held out,

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Speaker 3: you know, and now it's like every week they pointing

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Speaker 3: out a drop ball here, drop ball. Yeah, So you're

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Speaker 3: not getting the ya you got. You gotta know who

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Speaker 1: It's certain.

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Speaker 3: It's certain guys can say I'm gonna deb I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: sit out, I'm gonna get this money first, or it's

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Speaker 3: other guys that's like myself was like, look, man, I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna go out here and work. How it comfy this

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Speaker 3: this stuff that I'm putting in that give you enough

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Speaker 3: confidence to say pay me?

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Speaker 1: You know? Yeah? Well, I will say the one thing

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Speaker 1: about the Washington Commanders. Man is they got a bunch

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Speaker 1: of guys who are willing to work hard. And after

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Speaker 1: watching that Monday night football.

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Speaker 2: Game, so exactly listen, I know I.

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Speaker 1: Gotta say this, you know, like you know, everyone's like, oh,

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Speaker 1: we're back, We're in it. It's one game, yeah, but

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Speaker 1: it is a good game.

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Speaker 2: You know how you you start drinking some of that

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Speaker 2: sweet tea, you thought you were going to take a sip,

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Speaker 2: and you just can't. You can't let it down. Like

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Speaker 2: you can be happy like fans, you can be happy

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Speaker 2: like everybody acting like oh, I just don't want to

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Speaker 2: get ahead of myself, no enjoy. What would just happen

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Speaker 2: in Cincinnati? Well, we did, Like listen, the week before that,

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Speaker 2: I said, we got to get over this giant hump

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Speaker 2: because we can't beat the Giants.

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Speaker 1: We did that.

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Speaker 2: So all of these things that been hanging over our head,

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Speaker 2: we're straking them off. We're checking them off like you're

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Speaker 2: not good on national TV. Okay, check that off. We

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Speaker 2: just did that against eight what people call the one

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Speaker 2: b the second best quarterback in the league. We went

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Speaker 2: out there, we beat them at the house, celebrate and

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Speaker 2: Joe and I don't think we had a victory like

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Speaker 1: Time, some people would say the uh, like when we

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Speaker 1: busted the streak for Philadelphia, we broke their underfeet seasons

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Speaker 1: the Steelers, right, But this.

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Speaker 2: Feels no, No, this feel long term.

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Speaker 1: This feels different to me because it's like it's off

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Speaker 1: mystic as opposed to those felt like, oh we gotta

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Speaker 1: win Mystic. Yeah, yeah, like you gotta win and so

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Speaker 1: what we're not going anywhere? Yeah with with with with

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Speaker 1: but you know that there's no future there. It feels like,

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Speaker 3: I think also when you look at it, just watching

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Speaker 3: different networks just PNS, you name it, and you see everybody.

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Speaker 3: How when they mentioned Washington Commanders, it's almost like an

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Speaker 3: immediately like oh, yeah, these guys ain't going nowhere. That sucks,

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Speaker 3: so we're going against them. But then just see us

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Speaker 3: see your quarterback make everyone else better, you know what

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Speaker 3: I mean. When your quarterback got everyone playing a high

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Speaker 3: playing play out the play, that's what stands out to me. So, man,

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Speaker 3: I'm ecstatic, big ex static. If you're a fan, big static,

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Speaker 3: and just look forward to seeing these guys go out

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Speaker 3: there and play that hard every week.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a great point. Tend to playing hard

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Speaker 1: every week because I think when you you're seeing kind

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Speaker 1: of how the team is built, it's a bunch of

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Speaker 1: guys like fighting for each other. Like the old line,

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Speaker 1: the way they played that they competed, the way they

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Speaker 1: those fifty fifty balls. And you know the defense struggled.

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Speaker 1: But I thought there were signs break Yeah, they signs

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Speaker 1: of that competitive undertone, like you guys were talking about

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Speaker 1: Johnny Newton, Yeah, like running down receivers. So Mike Sanders

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Speaker 1: still making explosive taxing dude, making good man making play

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Speaker 1: like there was that Cover two or that that two

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Speaker 1: men were the disguising one. Yeah. And the amount of

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Speaker 1: grascity covered and the physicality that is playing with it's

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Speaker 1: it's all very positive.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you want to if you want to call

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Speaker 3: some names, let me let me give a Coleman his

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Speaker 3: flowers man.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Hey, they made a whole highlight reel of his blocks

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Speaker 3: the other night. And I mean it was like that

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Speaker 3: ninety one kid we talked about coming into the game,

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Speaker 3: good player, Bro, Did you not see him limp to

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Speaker 3: the sideline Coleman was He could have been on the

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Speaker 2: I've seen them guys. They got physical out there. Like

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Speaker 2: you said, Coleman had a great game. We talked about

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Speaker 2: So the amazing thing is he's still out there playing

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Speaker 1: That's what it felt like.

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Speaker 2: It felt like that, right, It felt like that after

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Speaker 2: You get out there, you introduce showrself to the world,

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Speaker 1: And it really felt like maybe Fredie might feel differently,

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Speaker 1: And just from like a like a football like analytics perspective,

434
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Speaker 1: his his decision making about when to scramble and getting

435
00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:18,160
Speaker 1: you from a second and ten to a third and two. Yeah,

436
00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:22,080
Speaker 1: like is so invaluable to an You're never in a

437
00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,359
Speaker 1: bad spot with him. That's that's what it feels like

438
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Speaker 1: as a play caller. Like when you're watching it, you're like, man, like,

439
00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:28,480
Speaker 1: this is a tough down in dis ince second and

440
00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:30,760
Speaker 1: tent Oh it's covered up. Oh should he just scrambled

441
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Speaker 1: at third one?

442
00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:32,200
Speaker 3: It's six yots?

443
00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,200
Speaker 2: What about to coordinate? To decoordinate on the other side line,

444
00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,520
Speaker 2: he is shaking in his boots on third and two

445
00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:41,880
Speaker 2: because what can I he's paralyzing my play called him,

446
00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:44,800
Speaker 2: because if I put him in man and my defensive

447
00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:47,880
Speaker 2: becks turned it back to him, he might run beside them.

448
00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,879
Speaker 2: You know, if I play zone, they might run be

449
00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:54,120
Speaker 2: robbed down hill like it's paralyzing them.

450
00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:55,760
Speaker 1: And even on there there was a fourth and one

451
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Speaker 1: run where they ran his own RD and he and

452
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Speaker 1: he and the defensive coordinator at least to Maya has

453
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Speaker 1: the right all on their pinching the defensive end. So

454
00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,720
Speaker 1: the quarterback's gonna pull it and then you're blitzing the

455
00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:07,920
Speaker 1: nickel off the edge and he puts his foot in

456
00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:10,520
Speaker 1: the ground there gets the first out. I'm excuse me,

457
00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:12,320
Speaker 1: and I'm like, that's the as the DC. I'm like,

458
00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:13,920
Speaker 1: that's the call I wanted to put.

459
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Speaker 3: It doesn't work, and he went out and played football

460
00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:17,520
Speaker 3: like yeah.

461
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Speaker 1: So just the ability to elevate the offense like that,

462
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Speaker 1: it's something that we haven't seen here for a couple

463
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Speaker 1: of years, and a lot of teams around the NFL

464
00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:24,879
Speaker 1: are looking forward and so for him to show signs

465
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Speaker 1: of that, yeah, it's pretty cool.

466
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Speaker 2: Man.

467
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Speaker 1: So the other thing I want to ask you about

468
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Speaker 1: obviously a lot of positive stuff offensively defense. We mentioned

469
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Speaker 1: a couple of positive things. It wasn't bad as your throat.

470
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Speaker 2: We just played against the second best quarterback in the league.

471
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Speaker 1: It's certain people you won't stop play top three.

472
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Speaker 2: You won't if I was playing against Joe Muntney and

473
00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:48,240
Speaker 2: Jay Rice in my prime. We're just trying to win

474
00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,359
Speaker 2: the game because we're stopping him just not gonna happen.

475
00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:52,920
Speaker 2: Like sometimes you need to understand when you're playing Peyton

476
00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,880
Speaker 2: Manning and Marvin Harrison. To win is to win the game.

477
00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:59,200
Speaker 2: We went there on the road, the defense being with

478
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Speaker 2: didn't break. They made place time appropriate places do.

479
00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:04,080
Speaker 3: We wanted to look good.

480
00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:07,040
Speaker 2: Everybody want they dinner served up a certain way. But

481
00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:09,199
Speaker 2: long as the state tastes good, I don't need it

482
00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:12,199
Speaker 2: to look like art. I needed to look and taste

483
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Speaker 2: to say.

484
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Speaker 3: It could be from outback or DC pink Kid. At

485
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Speaker 3: the end of the day, what is gonna do? Full

486
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Speaker 3: me up up. And the thing that I say about

487
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Speaker 3: the defense being resilient, I mean, bro, you went out

488
00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:24,359
Speaker 3: there and let these guys put up thirty three. Now

489
00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,280
Speaker 3: that last that last drive, I don't really count that,

490
00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,520
Speaker 3: but these guys got thirty three points on you, and

491
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Speaker 3: at the end of the day in the red zone,

492
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Speaker 3: they they couldn't find a way to get in an

493
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Speaker 3: end zone. Yea, we sat there, put our backs against

494
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Speaker 3: the wall. Some of the things that I listened to

495
00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:39,919
Speaker 3: Fred and them talking about for years. I love that

496
00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:42,719
Speaker 3: red zone because I got I got that back pilots

497
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Speaker 3: short about you know what I mean, bro I said there,

498
00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,080
Speaker 3: I'd be like, why they always talk about this red

499
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Speaker 3: zone like we don't love it either. We don't love

500
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Speaker 3: it too. So when I sat back there and I

501
00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:52,879
Speaker 3: watched them, you know from the seat I was in,

502
00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:54,359
Speaker 3: I'm like, all right, we're in the red zone. Fred,

503
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Speaker 3: them say you got.

504
00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:57,719
Speaker 2: Help window, They smile, not worry about all that.

505
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Speaker 3: Let's play covers, that's play, and they did.

506
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Speaker 1: So.

507
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Speaker 3: They was resilient at times when we need them the most.

508
00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:04,399
Speaker 3: And I would always give a book. I would rather

509
00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:08,240
Speaker 3: give up a field goal anytime anything, especially when officer bingo,

510
00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,320
Speaker 3: especially when the offense out there playing the way they playing.

511
00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:12,600
Speaker 3: So I get hass off to them as a team,

512
00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:14,280
Speaker 3: man as a whole. Yeah, the offense went out there

513
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Speaker 3: handle business defensively.

514
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Speaker 1: Man.

515
00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:17,679
Speaker 3: We needed you'all to make stops when y'all did, and

516
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Speaker 3: they I did just that.

517
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Speaker 2: And I say that the only reason we love the

518
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Speaker 2: red zone. The play has to happen now, ain't no

519
00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:27,320
Speaker 2: such thing as stended plays. Stended plays get you in

520
00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:30,359
Speaker 2: trouble down there. So that wonder is a popa smurf window,

521
00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,920
Speaker 2: and that's a very small window. So I just need

522
00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:34,480
Speaker 2: to be where I need to be, Like I can

523
00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:37,639
Speaker 2: literally take away plays in the red zone by my

524
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Speaker 2: stance where my body at like I'm not moving like

525
00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,040
Speaker 2: so it's a whole different way to play in the

526
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Speaker 2: red zone. So I get these got kudo and special teams.

527
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Speaker 2: Nobody like to talk about special team. Special Team was

528
00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:53,240
Speaker 2: out there laying petrified would they played.

529
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Speaker 1: They played a really fit. I really off to the

530
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Speaker 1: coaches it.

531
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Speaker 3: Was fifty seven because I didn't I didn't look up

532
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Speaker 3: his name, see him coming to hit that on the sideline.

533
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Speaker 1: They brought him in to play team. So now they

534
00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:05,879
Speaker 1: got him. They got Tyler Owens, Jamion Davis when he's

535
00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:06,879
Speaker 1: out there, Jamie Reeves.

536
00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 2: Jam Reeves came down into there.

537
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Speaker 1: They're a problem man, And I think, like you're that's

538
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:13,959
Speaker 1: going to be a competitive advantage for us. They've done it.

539
00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:14,960
Speaker 1: He's done a good job.

540
00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:20,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, that I used to hate playing against. He won't stop. Yeah,

541
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Speaker 2: he got them playing, but they have that edge. He

542
00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,520
Speaker 2: got them playing in his identity.

543
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Speaker 1: And he's got a good And I think the other

544
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:27,760
Speaker 1: thing you got to give him credit for is he's

545
00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,760
Speaker 1: got a feel whatever whatever they're doing from a wrinkle standpoint,

546
00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,560
Speaker 1: wherever they're coaching it, that dynamic kickoff is an advantage

547
00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,040
Speaker 1: for us right now. Yeah, and again we've got obviously

548
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:37,840
Speaker 1: when Austin' speck there, he's got a great feel. I

549
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:39,760
Speaker 1: think Monogan he's got a good feel for it too.

550
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:41,560
Speaker 1: So in the fact those guys are blocking it up

551
00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:43,880
Speaker 1: so well and we're covering kick so well, I mean,

552
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,720
Speaker 1: and it speaks to the kind of the competitiveness of

553
00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:48,760
Speaker 1: the team. But back to the defense real quick. One

554
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:50,080
Speaker 1: of the things I want to say is, like to me,

555
00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,600
Speaker 1: this was the only way to win this game, is Ben,

556
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,680
Speaker 1: but don't break play soft covered structures. Try to limit

557
00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:57,879
Speaker 1: the explosive play. I don't care if they run for

558
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Speaker 1: five thousand yards.

559
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Speaker 2: Don't get Zach Mouse. I'm not afraid of you beating me.

560
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 1: Because Joe Burrow is scary, Like when he had the

561
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 1: football on his hand, was he when he's in that

562
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 1: pocket man, His accuracy, his composure is impressive.

563
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Speaker 2: No, the way he IDs single high single, it takes

564
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 2: him a millisecond.

565
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Speaker 3: I would I would have loved to be with an

566
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,440
Speaker 3: offense where the quarterback just knew that if you, if

567
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 3: you tried Tanna and Bro and don't come, don't, don't

568
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 3: show coverage, I'm going at you. And when he did, Bro,

569
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 3: we was we were sawing coverage the old time. The

570
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 3: first play we took that one time off of Chase,

571
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:34,960
Speaker 3: he hit him. I'm going up to and I say,

572
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 3: Bro Howards, that's InSync, like.

573
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Speaker 1: Looked like cover THREEO. No, No, he processed it.

574
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Speaker 2: But them these boys been to they've been together so long.

575
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,080
Speaker 2: If you got a quarterback that you played with in

576
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:50,400
Speaker 2: college and y'all went for a millions in college, y'all

577
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,359
Speaker 2: got to league, went for a million to have it,

578
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 2: y'all have a rapport. Did y'all understand?

579
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Speaker 1: So it's just signals.

580
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Speaker 2: Like I watched him. I watched Jamar Chase stack guy

581
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 2: and he did this with his left hand. I watched

582
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 2: him do this with his left hand. The ball was

583
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 2: already gone. I said, man, because I like to pick

584
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 2: up on Sundays. Then the second time he did the

585
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 2: same exact thing. And we talked about the gear that

586
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,160
Speaker 2: Jama Chase got when the ball in there.

587
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 1: It's totally different, special, like because I played with I

588
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 1: played with.

589
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Speaker 3: How I feel that those gears?

590
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, me too, you know, you know the.

591
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 2: Time I took out running down in the street to BA,

592
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 2: I got a ticket for speed.

593
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,120
Speaker 3: I did that just for him.

594
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 2: I knew it so funny.

595
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Speaker 1: But yeah, he's special in that way. Like he kind

596
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 1: of reminds me of young Santantams, like that ability to

597
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 1: get to the edge and to which run by somebody

598
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 1: like they're trying to contact you. Like we were talking

599
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 1: about this earlier, Like I thought Saint Jus was in

600
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 1: a good spot, great spot and then and tell you

601
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Speaker 1: what and then but then you watch I told you

602
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Speaker 1: I watched like probably fifty Jamar Chase deep balls like

603
00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 1: he does it to everybody like they're in a good

604
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Speaker 1: fai and he just I don't know if it's his strength.

605
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's acceleration, similar to what Terry did.

606
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:05,479
Speaker 1: At the end.

607
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 2: The ball was gone before Terry even got beside the receiver.

608
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,199
Speaker 3: Terry hit that gear, hit the gear, then he hit

609
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:12,919
Speaker 3: slow it down.

610
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, he hit the gear Like Okay, now, let me

611
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 2: make sure I get this knee.

612
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 1: In hit too, you know what I'm saying. And we're

613
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 1: gonna talk about that play on the Command Center show.

614
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,359
Speaker 1: We're to do a video breakdown of that, so make

615
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,679
Speaker 1: sure you check that out. But yeah, the one thing

616
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 1: I'd say, one one criticism I think to the defense

617
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 1: is we got to figure out run fits. Oh yeah,

618
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 1: Like I think we're doing a good job, Like I

619
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,879
Speaker 1: like the plan, I think we're executing okay, but it's

620
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 1: the run fits just seem like when I'm watching the film,

621
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,159
Speaker 1: like this can't be like someone's gotta be making mistakes,

622
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:41,159
Speaker 1: but it can be fixed.

623
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Speaker 3: I'm confident in and can't get it. They'll get it

624
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,439
Speaker 3: together because you see them right there and it's like

625
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 3: they make the wrong decision or two here and there

626
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 3: and and you say, if you just butted that guy

627
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 3: up in the hold now, he would have had his

628
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:52,920
Speaker 3: behind the hole instead of you're trying to old lam,

629
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Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So they'll get it together.

630
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I agree, And I think that's something again.

631
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Speaker 1: I trust Joe with Junior, Trust Dan Quinn, trust that

632
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,160
Speaker 1: defensive staff because every week, quite frankly they've gotten better

633
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 1: and better, so hopefully they hope, hopefully it happens fast,

634
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 1: but we'll see, all right, quick quick kind of side

635
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,200
Speaker 1: note storylines coming out of the game, Cam Taylor Britt said,

636
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,160
Speaker 1: that's a nice college offense. I heard Daniel's passion percentage

637
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 1: is very high. But he's only throwing short routes, some

638
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 1: intermediate stuff and quick throws.

639
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 2: Until he played you.

640
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 1: Until he played you. But to be fair to him,

641
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 1: like that's what they were doing before and they just

642
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 1: missed the deep bay.

643
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:29,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, he ain't understand any is the office was two

644
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 2: games out, like he didn't put everything in. I heard

645
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,119
Speaker 2: nagging after the first week in temper we don't motion

646
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,919
Speaker 2: no bad. We stole motion. Like he's layering the playbook

647
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 2: for the team and fort of quarterback. This office won't

648
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 2: look like he looks now in week.

649
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 1: Tweve And I'm really glad you brought that up because

650
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 1: they get to some of their like the stuff you

651
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 1: get from motion, they get to it with personnel, So

652
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Speaker 1: the people in the game and the formations they're in,

653
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:55,440
Speaker 1: so that's how they get it. And I know that's

654
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 1: a little unconventional, that feels very collegy, but it's after

655
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 1: watching how he utilizes it. It's like a masterclass and

656
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 1: how to use those two things to maximize what the

657
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 1: quarterback is seeing. So we don't they don't need to

658
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 1: motion as much as another team because they have variety

659
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 1: in those other areas.

660
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 3: Man Man Cliff was in his bag so much to

661
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 3: where it was at times where I just knew it

662
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 3: was a run play because I saw it before and

663
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 3: he got ready to he faked the running boom he

664
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:20,880
Speaker 3: got right now. I'm like, bro, that's when you got

665
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:22,360
Speaker 3: the defense and your palm on your hand.

666
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 1: About that, Terry, Yeah, you saw that, Like I just

667
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 1: knew from.

668
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 3: Run the ball with dog on Echoler somebody, and he

669
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 3: just found a way to get the ball.

670
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 2: He's displacing tight ends in the way nobody is. He

671
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 2: got tight ends doing wide receive emotions.

672
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 1: Well, I think that's the thing. When you bring Zach

673
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,639
Speaker 1: Ertz in, you have a you have a mobile mobile

674
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 1: peace like like Zach is like you can do stuff

675
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 1: like that.

676
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,920
Speaker 3: And then you got two guys and sending and you

677
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 3: got the guy and their natal gassages up top just dominating.

678
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 3: You know that you put them on the line. It's

679
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 3: get them a different number, and they out there killing people.

680
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,679
Speaker 1: When we talked about the physicality that we saw for

681
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:59,399
Speaker 1: like baits Man, he's getting after people, is getting reason

682
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 1: that the he was able to run with them and

683
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:07,159
Speaker 1: get that bark in. But yeah, so obviously Jane Daniels

684
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,680
Speaker 1: has a really productive day explosive plays. Kudos to cam

685
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 1: Brick because he's like, yes, I can eat my words. Definitely,

686
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 1: we take that elder day.

687
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 2: Hey, first of all, come to the fridge, talk all right.

688
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 2: First of all, do not talk trash before the game.

689
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 2: Talk trash doing the game. Let me get a feel

690
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 2: for how this thing gonna go before I say, before

691
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 2: I give you five.

692
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,120
Speaker 1: But you would talk before though you talk all the time.

693
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 2: Not really because I don't want to come out there

694
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 2: with the with the with the buoys already on, because

695
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 2: if you talk noise early in the week, the office

696
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 2: is gonna say these five players are for Frids.

697
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:47,959
Speaker 1: We're going at him, all right.

698
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 2: So I get out there in the game and I

699
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 2: started yapping and laughing when the game starts. And then

700
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 2: after the game, Dean, I'm gonna let you know how

701
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 2: I feel, all right, So take the brit If you

702
00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 2: would have just talked on the game. You wanna have

703
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 2: they no questions after the game. That's what it is.

704
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 1: And we did a segment on the last show about

705
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 1: who was going to catch Jane daniels first touchdown pass

706
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 1: and everybody in America got it.

707
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 2: Row yeah man, yeah all yeah.

708
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 1: So obviously Trent Scott scores the first touchdown and he

709
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 1: is the first offensive lineman since show just jo Jacobe

710
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 1: to score a touchdown. But we have what's your gosh.

711
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 2: But Joe say it Hannah, Yeah, but Joe said he

712
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 2: is the office alignment that kind of tests down. Yeah,

713
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 2: so not a tight end chicked in as a laugh.

714
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 1: So Hannah, who does hail tails? Not Hale's tails. Hail tails? Right,

715
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: thank you appreciate it. She texted them because she's she's

716
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 1: cool like that, and she goes, hey, you know, first

717
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 1: time an offensive lineman scored a touchdown for Washington since

718
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 1: you in nineteen eighty four, and it's like, wow, it's

719
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 1: good to be back talking about people. And his first

720
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 1: thing was like, no, he report is a tight end

721
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 1: in that formation. So I'm still the only old lineman

722
00:29:59,080 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 1: to score td.

723
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 2: O Jacob Jojakoby baby and damn shame, Hall of fame. Dude,

724
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 2: gotta get Joe Jacob the Truth into the Hall of Fame,

725
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 2: going Mitch into the Hall of Fame, London Fletcher in

726
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame. I'm gonna have some shirts coming

727
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 2: out soon. Watch out for we got some swag, some

728
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 2: crazy swag.

729
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 1: Yeah.

730
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 2: I'm coming out with my damn shame Hall of Fame

731
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 2: shirt with with jojok like that. Yeah, yeah, with Jojacoby.

732
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 3: Make sure you in London gonna run to the damn thing.

733
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jason just says he wants what definitely get.

734
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 3: To I want to invest in it. I want one

735
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 3: want to that is.

736
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 1: That is pat and pending. I know Fred probably legally

737
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 1: hasn't done that yet.

738
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 2: My ex wife is a lawyer, likes me.

739
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 1: All right. So yeah, so Jojacoby Hall of Fame. Is

740
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 1: anybody else that should be in the Hall of Fame?

741
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 1: I'm not well, I said Jojacobin. That's what I'm putting

742
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 1: in the shirt. Jojacobe b Mitch London Fletcher. Now, if

743
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 1: y'all feel like Gary Clark, I'm.

744
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 3: Gonna say you can argue for Gary. You can hurgle

745
00:30:57,920 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 3: for a lot of people, man, you know.

746
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 2: So it's got like we got guys, did are pending?

747
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 2: You know how you get something it's pending, and no,

748
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 2: put my money in the bait. I don't need it pending.

749
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: So I feel like that's a pretty good review of

750
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 1: everything that happened versus the I almost said Arizona Cardinals.

751
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 1: That's coming up next, the Cincinnati Bengals, And so let's

752
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 1: preview the Arizona Cardinals matchup. And this is kind of

753
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 1: a revenge game, a little bit revenge.

754
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 2: You know, Ravens games come with a list stank on

755
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 2: little say.

756
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 1: People say, why is their stink? Cliff Kingsbury obviously to

757
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 1: coach here, Zach Ertz obvious used to play here.

758
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 2: And they said you can't play.

759
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then dan Quinn lost them last year. Did

760
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 1: Josh Josh Dobbs is the quarterback and probably things a.

761
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 3: Little bit Yep, we did the number to Josh dobb

762
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 3: last Nay almost.

763
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 1: Got us, almost got us too.

764
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Speaker 2: And don't forget about Jane Daniels went to Arizona State

765
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 2: and after he transferred to l s U, his team

766
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 2: may shunned him.

767
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 1: They were so when he goes back, yeah, they did.

768
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 2: They top trash salty, They were salted at him and

769
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 2: it gets what Antonio Pierce was a coach at Arizona

770
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 2: State at this time. So yeah, so when he goes

771
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 2: back to Arizon like, yeah, it's hate.

772
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 1: I feel a hate.

773
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 3: Round in the air, smells the lights.

774
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 1: That's what we like.

775
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 2: Like, players love hate, like I love.

776
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 1: To be hated. That means you're doing your job. So

777
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 1: obviously revenge on the I don't know for revengers on

778
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 1: the mind of the players, but there are some good storylines.

779
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 1: There also two rookies, right, we got Jayden Daniels and

780
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:26,959
Speaker 1: Marvis Harrison Junior. We're going to kind of get through

781
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 1: that in the preview, but that's kind of a fun

782
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 1: little kind of thing. Who's going to play better? What

783
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 1: was what was Harrison? He was a top five pick. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

784
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 1: both top five picks. Fo. Yeah, right, I couldn't remember

785
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 1: exactly where it went, but let's start with the Arizona offense. Yeah,

786
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 1: and obviously Kyler Murray's kind of at the genesis of that.

787
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 1: And to me, everyone's gonna get Kyler Murray, Marvin Harrison Junior.

788
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 1: You know, Michael Wilson, the kid from Stanford last year.

789
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 1: They've got a really good tight ending name they've got

790
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 1: some really good skill vision guys. But I was talking

791
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 1: to you guys about this before, and with Arizona specifically,

792
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 1: I feel like Kyler Murray is not great and obvious

793
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 1: passing situations like he gets a little bit you can't

794
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 1: see stuffy blitzwell, and so they're at their best to me,

795
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 1: when James Connor is cooking and he's scrambling for first

796
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: he's scrambling on first and second down for big games.

797
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 1: So if you can kind of, to me manage their

798
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 1: ability to run the football effectively, I think it really

799
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 1: limits how effective Kyler Murray can be.

800
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 2: Well, who best to tell you how to stop him?

801
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 1: Then? Cliff Kingsbury.

802
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 2: That's a great cli Cliff Kingsbury coached him to the

803
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 2: point where he knew his screints and knew his weaknesses.

804
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 1: He knew what he could do with him and knew

805
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 1: what he couldn't.

806
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 2: Now, if you want to stop caller Murray, don't let

807
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 2: him on the edges, keep him inside the pocket, force

808
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 2: him to beat you inside the pocket as a pocket passer,

809
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 2: and now let the games begin. So I think we

810
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 2: got the like, if anybody has the solution slowing him down,

811
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 2: I think it's us and I think it's all because

812
00:33:58,720 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 2: of the coaching brainchild.

813
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's gonna be a tough game regardless wause

814
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 3: you think about it. You know, they do have James Carnor.

815
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 3: They have seen the film that we allow, you know,

816
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 3: these guys to run to run the ball, So they're

817
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:11,839
Speaker 3: gonna try to you know what I mean. I guess

818
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 3: you can say a post they will and that in

819
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,359
Speaker 3: that aspect of the game. But at the same time,

820
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,919
Speaker 3: he has to drop back and when he does, he's

821
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 3: want of those guys. He he is at his best

822
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 3: when he's doing all that stuff in the parcket and

823
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 3: he find ways to get out. Those dbs have to

824
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 3: be disciplined in the back end. You have to stick

825
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 3: You have to be sticky because and then also those

826
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 3: guys are front man. When you put hands on them,

827
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 3: put hands on them and bring them down because the

828
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 3: dude can scoop. You know what I mean, put your

829
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 3: hands up.

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00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 1: It's what you need to do.

831
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 2: If we can knock down three or four passes in

832
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 2: the game, them four downs you can't get back. So

833
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 2: I think more than a second important. Like a good

834
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 2: defensive coordinator. If I had Grig Williams. If we was

835
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 2: playing him, he would tell our d lie knocking down

836
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 2: balls is more important than secks than get this game

837
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 2: because it takes away down.

838
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 1: And especially with Coyler Murray because like when you're watching

839
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,399
Speaker 1: film again, like I know, people make a lot about

840
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,839
Speaker 1: his hype, but there's times, like you mentioned, like they

841
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 1: like to boot him out. They like to kind of

842
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: do these little waggles where they're moving the pocket and

843
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: he can get lines of vision down the field. Or

844
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: he likes to create chaos, right kind of, yeah, be

845
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:15,359
Speaker 1: an agent to chaos, that's exactly right. But when he's

846
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,280
Speaker 1: in the pocket, like I feel like you can't see

847
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 1: very well. No, he can, so when the d line

848
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 1: put their hands up, like there's times where I can

849
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 1: you can see him trying to look through. So I

850
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,359
Speaker 1: know that's kind of that feels like, you know, it's

851
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 1: a cliche because he's short, but it.

852
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 2: Shows up on films. Brees did a great job of

853
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 2: Drew Brees. He stayed on it, but he never threw

854
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 2: over his office. He threw between them.

855
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:40,399
Speaker 1: And I was gonna say, like I've had a couple

856
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,879
Speaker 1: of conversations with guys that have coached with Drew Brees,

857
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: and they were like, we were really smart about making

858
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 1: sure we had two of the best guards in football

859
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,479
Speaker 1: to keep the depth of the pocket really good center

860
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 1: so we could get those throwing lanes you're describing. And

861
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 1: when you look at the interior for Arizona, like, they're

862
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 1: they're fine players, but they're guys that have been around

863
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 1: the block a little bit. You got Will Hernandez, you

864
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 1: got Evan Brown, who are good players but not great

865
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 1: to play it. Yet I think it shows up right,

866
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 1: it shows up in terms of how that pocket collapses

867
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 1: and how he can't see stuff. And you look at again,

868
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 1: they went toe to toe with the Bills in the

869
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 1: first game, but they were able to get a lot

870
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 1: of pass rush in the second half because they were

871
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 1: to slow down James Connor.

872
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 2: Well, and then you got the run pain and John

873
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 2: Allen who used to wear Hernandez because Helenandez played.

874
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 1: In New York.

875
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, so they understand what they're dealing with internally with

876
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 2: these guys. So yeah, you're right, we could dominate this

877
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 2: line of scrimmage. It gives us a chance to slow

878
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 2: them down.

879
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,360
Speaker 3: That's the lord We're gonna need it. I mean, you

880
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 3: saw last week were gonna need it. And they're not

881
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 3: even just talking about Darran paying them guys. Man. I mean,

882
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 3: you know, I know I'm getting a little ahead of myself,

883
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 3: But Thatt's talking about one of our guys that we

884
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 3: saw was able to go out there and get his

885
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 3: and get his feet wet. Newton. Yeah, I mean, I

886
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,240
Speaker 3: mean he gave me that. You know, we we we

887
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,280
Speaker 3: know how to get those guys in and off the field,

888
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 3: you know pretty well up there in our front our

889
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 3: front line. And for him to come up there and

890
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 3: show us how he was a guy that not only

891
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 3: was he showing us hush who plays, Yeah, he took

892
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 3: on those blocks well, shedding blocks, making tackles. I mean

893
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 3: Lmbridge was third and two or third and three. Guy

894
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 3: got one yard when he hit him, you know what

895
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 3: I mean. So I'm looking for a guy like that

896
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:12,280
Speaker 3: to see more from him each and everywhere.

897
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 1: He's playing his way into shape.

898
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 2: That was, like I said, this guy's the limit with

899
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 2: these guys because they all playing their way into shape.

900
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I agree. And I think obviously the interiors

901
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: got to play well, the edges got to play well.

902
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 1: They like to run a lot of these kind of

903
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 1: gun gap scheme runs where they're pulling guys. You know,

904
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 1: up to this point, the Commanders defenses has had a

905
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 1: hard time with that. So Frankielubu, Bobby Wagner, Jeremy Chin

906
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,359
Speaker 1: when he's an extra run defender, can you guys get

907
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 1: that communicated so that we can get this stopped up

908
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,760
Speaker 1: because this offense it looks different like when they played Detroit.

909
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 1: They just played Detroit last week or this last weekend,

910
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 1: and Detroit was based like you're not running the football

911
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 1: and we are going to be physical, We're going to

912
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: be nasty. And their offense they scored ten points in

913
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: the first quarter and didn't score again after that. Yeah,

914
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 1: and you know how many yards per rush James Connor

915
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: average two point nine one wow one you aard to

916
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,439
Speaker 1: rush one, you are to rush to get you seeing

917
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 1: home win. But you know the week Priory has he

918
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:07,439
Speaker 1: averages one hundred and twenty.

919
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 2: He's a good back in it.

920
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I mean we need to take a page

921
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 3: out of Detroit.

922
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:12,800
Speaker 1: I think, so just be physical and they played a

923
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 1: lot of man. They were very aggressive and I do

924
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,280
Speaker 1: think you know, Marvin Harris Junior is a good player,

925
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 1: but he doesn't look like he's quite in shape. Yet

926
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 1: when you watch him in terms of like ability to

927
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,240
Speaker 1: win in type man like he wins late in the down.

928
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 1: Michael Wilson very similar. Trey McBride's got a good man

929
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 1: to man field. But I think you could man up

930
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 1: in certain situations more than you could versus Jama Chase. Yeah,

931
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 1: versus Cincinnati, because Joe Burrow is going to kill you.

932
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:39,399
Speaker 1: I don't know. Murray's excellent. Yeah, he's not that level.

933
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,919
Speaker 2: He's not a precision passer like the op and he's

934
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 2: not a guy that gonna identify as quick as Joe

935
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 2: did what coverage on. That's correct because he because what

936
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 2: he wanted to do Murray is he don't care about

937
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 2: what coverage you in. He wanted to break down. Yeah,

938
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 2: Joe don't care about it breaking down. I'm throwing to

939
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 2: the week. He's almost banking on it breaking down. So

940
00:38:57,920 --> 00:38:59,720
Speaker 2: now he can be special. Now he can be specially

941
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 2: that if you just if you do your disciplines, you.

942
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 1: Do what you bos.

943
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 3: I want to say, being disciplined defensive, never break down,

944
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 3: You sit down coverage and say all right, pick it,

945
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 3: get take what we don't give him in a pocket

946
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 3: and say, we're gonna sit back in cover, not to

947
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 3: the ball.

948
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, so this big, big week obviously stopping the run

949
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 1: very different kind of in terms of it's interesting how

950
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 1: each week presents something different. Cincinnati, it's like, want Tom

951
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 1: run the ball places off coverages. Here, it's like, you

952
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 1: can be more aggressive with the cover structures, stop the

953
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:27,320
Speaker 1: run and let's disrupt Kyler Murray as a passer. Yeah,

954
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,919
Speaker 1: and don't let him run run over later. So maybe

955
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 1: there's a spy involved something like that, but this feels

956
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 1: like a good matchup if you can, if you can

957
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 1: kind of build around stopping the run.

958
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

959
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's talk about the Arizona defense. Mike Clay,

960
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 1: who is an analyst or something. I don't know who

961
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 1: that is exactly, but sorry, Mike Clay hate them. Yeah. Uh.

962
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 1: He picked the Cardinals to allow the most points on

963
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,879
Speaker 1: defense in twenty twenty four, so he doesn't think they're

964
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 1: going to be a good defense. Through the first three games,

965
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,760
Speaker 1: they're the nineteenth ranked defense in the NFL. They've played

966
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills, who look unstopped phenomenal. They played the

967
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,800
Speaker 1: Detroit Lions, who stop are good, and they're playing a

968
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 1: banged up La Rams team who have Matthew Stafford and

969
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 1: still are very good offense even though they've got some injuries.

970
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 1: So my question, I have my thoughts, but I'd like

971
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 1: to get your guys perspective is why are they nineteenth

972
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 1: at not thirty second in the NFL.

973
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,320
Speaker 2: Because they got some scrappy guys like Buddha Baker and

974
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 2: the rest of those guys that refuse to believe with

975
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 2: your boy Klay is talking about because Clay don't play football.

976
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 2: So they are saying, is We're gonna go out here

977
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 2: and show you you just brought something up. We played

978
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 2: against Josh Allen and unstoppable Bill's defense, I mean your offense.

979
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 2: We came back played against Detroit, which both of these

980
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 2: teams people are picking at super Bowl possible. Then we

981
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 2: go play the Rams, who I think is a legit team.

982
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 2: They just cannot stay here and they're still they're good team.

983
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 2: This is a good defense. Might not be a great defense,

984
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,359
Speaker 2: nobody say they are Pittsburgh, still a defense. They are

985
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 2: a good defense. They got some good players on it.

986
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 2: They're doing the same thing I have defense doing, and

987
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 2: they're learning how to play under their new haircut.

988
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 3: And say they brought into the know. They brought him

989
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 3: to the whole scheme of things. Yeah, that's one of

990
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 3: the things that stand out to me watching film, a

991
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 3: little bit of a little bit of film that I

992
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 3: did see. I mean, these guys are flying around and

993
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 3: they're making plays, and that's the that's the biggest part

994
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 3: of you know, being efficient on any level as far

995
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 3: as whether he's offense or defense. If you go out

996
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:17,959
Speaker 3: there and you're ficient enough to get off the field

997
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 3: when it's time to, and offense to convert those downs

998
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 3: when it's time to, that's how you get yourself in

999
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,959
Speaker 3: those nineteen rankings or even lower. So that's what I'm seeing.

1000
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 3: I'm saying, they have a safety that's basically leading that

1001
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 3: thing back there, letting them know everything back here, this is,

1002
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 3: this is, it's air control back here, and you throw

1003
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 3: it back here. You got to see them me and

1004
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 3: he's playing lights out. He's in the run game. He's

1005
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 3: affected in the run game and the passing game and

1006
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 3: collective lead together. They are fishing enough to go out

1007
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 3: there and be ready to I think if you really

1008
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:46,839
Speaker 3: want to see how they're gonna try to attack us

1009
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 3: after the quarterbacks, I've looked at them play Josh Allen.

1010
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 1: Is look at the scheme they had.

1011
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 2: For Josh Allen, that's gonna be the scheme they're gonna

1012
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 2: have for Jayde and Daniels.

1013
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it is. I think when you look,

1014
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 1: I'm glad Tanna you said the scheme and Freddie talked

1015
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:04,919
Speaker 1: about the personnel, Like when you go through their list

1016
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:08,280
Speaker 1: of personnel, there's very few people that nationally you would recognize.

1017
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 1: I mean, Zavion Collins from a first round pick, Dennis

1018
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 1: guard Ax, some people know who that is. Led the

1019
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,319
Speaker 1: team in sacks last year. Buddha Baker is kind of

1020
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 1: the guy. He's the guy. He's everybody else is. I mean,

1021
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 1: they're good players, but they're not They're not like household names.

1022
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 1: But I will say Nick Cannon, the head coach defensive coordinator,

1023
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 1: this scheme is the most complicated scheme we've played so

1024
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 1: far this year the Commanders have played so far this year. Dude.

1025
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:39,399
Speaker 1: They are locked in from a like a zone pressure standpoint,

1026
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 1: simulated pressure standpoint. It's like so basically they had they

1027
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 1: got two picks versus Jared Golf, they forced to fumble

1028
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 1: versus Bill's guy, Josh Allen and they had they got

1029
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 1: two picks on Matthew Stafford. And why is that? It's

1030
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:59,359
Speaker 1: because when you go pre snap, they've got let's say

1031
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,800
Speaker 1: seven guys line of scrimmage. They're bringing four of those guys.

1032
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 1: The other four are dropping out and they're able to

1033
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 1: get to the spot some good coverage structures because Buddha Baker,

1034
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 1: I've seen him be on the line of scrimmage and

1035
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 1: play half, you know what I'm saying, kind of like

1036
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 1: old Troy palm Alu stuff. Yeah, so there's times where

1037
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 1: guys are like, this is where the ball should go.

1038
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 1: And then there's Dennis Gardak dropping into the hole right

1039
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: as the extra hook player, like they brought his zone

1040
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 1: pressure versus the Detroit Lions where it looks like it

1041
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 1: should be there. Right, they're blitzing these five guys. They

1042
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 1: don't run a replacement fire zone. So Gardak, who's the

1043
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:34,280
Speaker 1: outside linebacker, drops out the tight end, beats them plug

1044
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 1: player across his face and guardacks like literally right there,

1045
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 1: just throw it to just throw it right to me.

1046
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 1: And so I look at the way they bring six

1047
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 1: man pressures, the way they bring five man pressures, the

1048
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 1: way they simulate pressure, and there is space. There's a

1049
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 1: lot of air in this defense, but a lot of

1050
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 1: times you don't know exactly where the air is going

1051
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:50,800
Speaker 1: to be.

1052
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 2: Bes he did when when somebody's doing those zone bliazzes

1053
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 2: like that. The way to really wake us up on

1054
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 2: defense is to widen the split set of wide receives. Oh,

1055
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 2: the splits outside the numbers, which.

1056
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,320
Speaker 1: Which the Cliff has done a great job. Inde, I

1057
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 1: didn't even think about that scrape point. They're gonna create space.

1058
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 1: It's gonna create because they can't get to their space.

1059
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 1: They get to the.

1060
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 2: Spots, like Cliff is gonna understand, Like, this is what

1061
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 2: you're gonna do, Terry, get ready to play two yearlds

1062
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 2: away from the set of the line. I mean the

1063
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 2: sideline you too, Noah Brown and we're gonna run ump

1064
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,399
Speaker 2: but these these slant and slanting gold and we're gonna

1065
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 2: get you out of it.

1066
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:24,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, And because that's that's what they've been really successful with.

1067
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 1: So if they get you a third down, yeah, Like man,

1068
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 1: it is it's a little bit confusing because you're like,

1069
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 1: this looks like what they're gonna do. And then sometimes

1070
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,359
Speaker 1: they they this became popular like three or four years

1071
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 1: ago where they run a fire zone, but you bring six,

1072
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:40,879
Speaker 1: so you have two underneath.

1073
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 2: So that the n ain't dropping no more.

1074
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 1: He's gonna be part of it. And then those two

1075
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 1: zone players match quarterback eyes and that creates a ton

1076
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 1: of problems from a protection standpoint and then from a

1077
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 1: coverage standpoint, because they're overloading your vision zone. Yeah, even

1078
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,839
Speaker 1: though they have two. So they do some really cool stuff.

1079
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 2: And it stops you from running screens. That's what that

1080
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 2: zone bliss is very good. It your screen games away.

1081
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Speaker 1: He's got a bunch of good points that you know

1082
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 1: this everything.

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00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 3: You gotta think.

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00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:09,280
Speaker 2: I'm just saying though, because because we majored in zone blistening,

1085
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 2: so I know how teams used to attack us and

1086
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 2: what's the answers because every defense got a weakness. Now

1087
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 2: we can play the screen very good with that. But

1088
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 2: we also when you when you hit us in that

1089
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 2: weak spot them where the big players come from. Like

1090
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 2: if you look up and find that window, it's big plays.

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00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 3: Over and then you kind of you know, you gotta

1092
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 3: you got the stuff that ball and running backs to

1093
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 3: belly because that's what that's where you're going to be

1094
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:33,399
Speaker 3: effective at when you've got a team that's doing all

1095
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 3: this stuff, you got to run the football because now

1096
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 3: you get them out of those funky looks like because

1097
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 3: they don't know what's coming at them. And one of

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00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 3: the things that Cliff showed last week is where he

1099
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 3: can show you one thing and do something totally different.

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00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 3: So Cliff is gonna be Cliff against that guy, you

1101
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 3: know what I mean, basically saying, and you know he's

1102
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 3: gonna have he gonna have a you know what on

1103
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 3: boy for these guys. I see what y'all doing, but

1104
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:54,800
Speaker 3: I'm here. I'm here to ruin this part, you know

1105
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 3: what I mean, Whatever you thought you had going on,

1106
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 3: I'm finna show you. And that's the that's the luxury

1107
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 3: we have, though, bro, Like with this whole coaching staff,

1108
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 3: not even a coaching staff. Jayden Dame's being dynamic with

1109
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 3: his legs. You don't know when he's coming. And if

1110
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 3: you sitting back that thinking that I got to worry

1111
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 3: about just him putting that thing in the belly, Now

1112
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 3: you gotta worry about when you take it out. And

1113
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:19,359
Speaker 3: that's the luxury we have. And that's that's what I love.

1114
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 3: That's what that's what brains this offense to where is

1115
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 3: at today, because when you're thinking that they're going to

1116
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 3: be you know, hey, they finna just get this. No,

1117
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 3: he might do something totally different because you have a

1118
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 3: lethal quarterback back that that can run at any given time.

1119
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 1: And I'm really glad you brought up Josh Allen because

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00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 1: that's what Josh Allen did. Like there was a couple

1121
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 1: of times you could tell he was confused, he didn't

1122
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 1: see it perfectly, and he's running twenty yards for a

1123
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,320
Speaker 1: first down, you know, because the zone guys are dropping

1124
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 1: with their back they have to. And then the other

1125
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 1: thing he was not afraid of was like hitting the

1126
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 1: little quick slant windows. The guys with good actability, you

1127
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Like they have James Cook is

1128
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 1: that his name, the running back. Oh hit him a

1129
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,399
Speaker 1: couple especially this. Yeah, yeah, they hit him a couple

1130
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 1: of times on just some little checkdown and the zone

1131
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 1: guys aren't kind of right where they're supposed to be

1132
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 1: and ends up being exposed to play. So I do

1133
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,319
Speaker 1: think that you know that that's again Fred was just

1134
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 1: so spot on with this analysis for this. But like

1135
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 1: the those zone pressures, trusting the quarterbacks legs right, trusting

1136
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 1: what he sees. If you don't love it, let's get

1137
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 1: out of there. And again, I wonder if after giving

1138
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 1: up thirty points to Josh Allen, they say, maybe we

1139
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 1: don't bring as much on pressure, maybe we do something different,

1140
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 1: and so are you ready for their counter to that,

1141
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 1: which is something interesting? But they steal the animal.

1142
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 2: Steal animal, you can't change.

1143
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good point because that's who he is.

1144
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 1: That's who he is is.

1145
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,799
Speaker 2: So if y'all gonna be zone blitz, I gotta play it.

1146
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 2: I got to play what I call quick to deep.

1147
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:38,319
Speaker 2: I got to hit these quick slants and I gotta

1148
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 2: go faux vert if I continue to go forvert, because

1149
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 2: no matter if I'm hitting it or not, you would

1150
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 2: I started to scritch you. I started to scritch a

1151
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:45,760
Speaker 2: zone blitz.

1152
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think that's something again, really interesting matchup,

1153
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:51,360
Speaker 1: and I think a really interesting matchup for Jade and

1154
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 1: Daniels too, because, like I thought, he did a great

1155
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 1: job with lou Ana Romo's defense. I think Cliff did

1156
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:57,360
Speaker 1: a great job calling the game so we didn't have

1157
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 1: to do too much heavy lifting. A Romo is a

1158
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 1: is it kind of a master coverage? This guise guy

1159
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:05,799
Speaker 1: Nick Nnon is a master at least from what I've

1160
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:09,360
Speaker 1: seen on third down of bringing pressures, pressures and filling zones.

1161
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,720
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be a different kind of intellectual challenge

1162
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 1: for Jayden and hopefully he's he's ready to go. And

1163
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 1: like you said, I think Cliff's gonna have something in

1164
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:16,399
Speaker 1: his bag.

1165
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, is does Cliff still own it fresh in the

1166
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,879
Speaker 2: house right now? He got the coaches down for them

1167
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 2: day up there.

1168
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 3: They're probably going to practice. They say they're gonna do

1169
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 3: their means at his crib.

1170
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 1: You might his way off.

1171
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's he was this thing before I say it.

1172
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 1: All right, So obviously we're super excited for for this,

1173
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 1: for this Arizona game, and you know, I mean it

1174
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 1: would just be tremendous, tremendous to go get another win,

1175
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:43,799
Speaker 1: to go get another winning. They came back, which is.

1176
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Speaker 2: Very which is very possible, And kudos to ownership for

1177
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 2: sending these guys out there on the short week early,

1178
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 2: letting them get acclimated. Kudos to them them for saying

1179
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 2: winning above everything. Coach, you tell me what you need

1180
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 2: and I'm ogi simply.

1181
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 1: Is that and a happy kind of coincidence is like,

1182
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 1: they don't have to be here in d C with

1183
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 1: all this kind of circus going around that Monday night win.

1184
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 1: They're like they're by themselves locked in.

1185
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 2: So nobody get to put them on a penalty. It's

1186
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 2: just like right back to work lunch, Fiel. I mean,

1187
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 2: it's hard.

1188
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:19,359
Speaker 3: With all these social media outlets and posts. I'm like

1189
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 3: my phone, just Washington, Washington, come in, It's come in,

1190
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 3: come in. I'm like, look, look how they do you

1191
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 3: you see? You know what I'm saying, don't drink the

1192
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 3: kool aids.

1193
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 1: Don't drink it.

1194
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 2: Nobody asked us to the prom last year.

1195
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Ugly, Yeah, but I think

1196
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 1: that's a great point, Fred, like, this is not a

1197
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 1: cheap trip for them and for the ownership to be like,

1198
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 1: this is what it takes to win. This is what

1199
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:38,720
Speaker 1: Dan says, it takes.

1200
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 2: So we got to appreciate it. You gotta appreciate stuff

1201
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:41,800
Speaker 2: that you ain't had.

1202
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 1: And that's different than what it's been and everyone talks about,

1203
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 1: oh it's the same, it's the same. Ain't nothing to

1204
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 1: say this is this is different. Yeah, this is different.

1205
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 1: That's gonna do it. For today's show, I feel like

1206
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 1: we're forgetting something, Fred though, what do we forget? What

1207
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 1: do we normally do at the other show.

1208
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 2: I think that my coade is probably made of the

1209
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 2: stuff that's on this mic d They look.

1210
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:05,439
Speaker 1: Like, So, Yeah, usually we do hell yeah or hell no,

1211
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 1: hell no, We're not gonna do it today. We're gonna

1212
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 1: do it on the Command Center Show, which is going

1213
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 1: to air on YouTube tomorrow and WA nine at eleven

1214
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:16,799
Speaker 1: thirty pm. Yeah, okay, So if you want to see

1215
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,360
Speaker 1: hell yeah or hell no, yeah no, which is a

1216
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 1: big part, and if fans love it, makes you check

1217
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 1: out the Command Center Show either on YouTube or at

1218
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Speaker 1: WSA nine at eleven thirty. So that's it. Make sure

1219
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:36,839
Speaker 1: you check it out. The views and opinions expressed by

1220
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 1: our podcast guests and or hosts are their own and

1221
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:42,239
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00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:45,440
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