1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: Get up, getto boys. It's back and reoaded all in 2 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: your mind. Yeah, not deep throating. This is for the streets, 3 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:12,640 Speaker 1: the reel, the railroaded, the distant franchise, the truth escapegoating, 4 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: and they ain't knowing We spink the truth, so they 5 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 1: ain't quoted because we wrote it. The North South East Coat, 6 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: the gv MY for keeping your head bobbing. It ain't 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: no stopping and wants to be try to head by 8 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: and then the system is so corrupt they throw the 9 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: rock out of their heads and then blame it on us. 10 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: Don't get it twisted on code and me and danceing 11 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: for no buttment biscuits. It's Willie d y'all scar faces 12 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:49,160 Speaker 1: here with us in spirit. Collectively we are the ghetto boys, 13 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: reloaded for another episode of information and instructions to help 14 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: you navigate through this wild, crazy, beautiful world in studio 15 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: with us right now. Yeah. How you feeling, man? You 16 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: fresh off of versus battle? How does it feel man versus? An? 17 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: Amazing feelings? It's an amazing experience. You know, big shout 18 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: to you know Tim Swist, Oh you gotta get about 19 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 1: the mic. Yeah, And I was a big big shout 20 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: to you know, Timm and Swiss for such a wonderful 21 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: platform for artists to showcase their talents. You know, you know, 22 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 1: it's it's evolved. You know, it started out, you know, 23 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: artists is playing their records and you know, really just 24 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: a celebration of hip hop and entertaining one another during 25 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: the pandemic. And then it's just it's it's you know, 26 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: once the once the world started to open back up, 27 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: it evolved, you know, and now it's, yeah, it's always 28 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: going to be a celebration hip hop, but now it's 29 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 1: it's it's a you know, with live audience and everything. 30 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: It's a it's a performance. It's it's a stage presence, 31 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: it's your showmanship is it's everything that kind of goes 32 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:20,399 Speaker 1: into you know, what the verses is along with those 33 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: hit records. You know, but you don't have to be 34 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 1: about the hit records. You know, there were moments in 35 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: our verses where I feel it wasn't it wasn't so 36 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 1: much about the records as it was about the moment, 37 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: you know, and that and you know that that's that's 38 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 1: what makes very versus real dope, those moments, you know, Yeah, 39 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:48,519 Speaker 1: so I know it's going down you know, it's it's 40 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 1: Fat Joe versus j Rum, you know, icons of hip hop. 41 00:02:54,760 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: And I'm at the hospital because Brad, you know, everybody 42 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: know its scar faces getting your life saving kidney transplant. 43 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: So I'm in the waiting room, just waiting, you know, 44 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: and so I missed that historic event. Starticipating another historic event. 45 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:22,239 Speaker 1: It's nothing more historic than than our brother, Yeah, getting 46 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: well being man. You know, because I'm sitting there thinking, like, 47 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 1: you know, with all Brad has contributed to hip hop, 48 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: you know, and it's like this is huge, you know. 49 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 1: And then at the same time, you know, we talked 50 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: this reality of you guys doing you know, doing your thing, 51 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: you know, with the verses competition, we're talking We're talking 52 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: grapes and watermelons, you know what I'm saying, Like, you know, 53 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: we're the grapes on a performance and we're talking about 54 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: one about hip hop legends, you know, getting a kidney. 55 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: So that he's here with us too, to keep blessing 56 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: us with his presence and his his talents, and so 57 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: you know that that's crazy. Man. It's like, you know, 58 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: like just just being in that moment, man, I'm like, 59 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 1: because I'm hip hope for real man, for real. I 60 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: mean I left me too, Willie. That's you know. I 61 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 1: think that's the one thing I think people don't understand 62 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:29,720 Speaker 1: about me, or maybe just you know, misunderstood. You know 63 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 1: that's a misunderstanding about me. Is I love hip hop? Yeah? 64 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: Like I live, he breathe hip I was talking to 65 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 1: Nori overy day on the phone, all right, big shot 66 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: with my brother Noriega, and um, you know, I was 67 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: just talking about how I love him, yeah, And I'm like, 68 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: you know, I don't think you understand like I really 69 00:04:55,200 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: love music. I really love him like I wrapped every day. Hmm. 70 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: Still even though I put out a record, I wrapped 71 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: every day. It's like lyrical exercise to me. So I 72 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: could you know when I'm in the gym and I'm 73 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: listening to music and it's you know, it's getting me 74 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 1: hype while I'm working out. Yeah, I'm creating. But because 75 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 1: you know, I don't write anything down, you know. So 76 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 1: I learned that from from from home. Really yeah, I wrote, 77 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: I wrote my first album, and then after that you 78 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 1: just started going off dumb. It's really not off. Do 79 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: I write it? But I write it in my head? 80 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: How do you how do you rever that stuff, man, like, dang, well, 81 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 1: here's the thing, right, When you create it that way, 82 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 1: it becomes it becomes repetition. You're saying it over and 83 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 1: over and over again as you're you know, writing it 84 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 1: in your head. So it's you know, two bars, four bars, 85 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: six bars, eight bars, and you're as you're adding to it, 86 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 1: you're starting from the beginning each time, basically to keep 87 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:17,919 Speaker 1: adding to it, just so so by the time you know, 88 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 1: you really learning this wrap in a different way then 89 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: you would if you wrote it down. You know, the 90 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 1: paper was my crutch. I know I have it on here. 91 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:33,799 Speaker 1: If I write it at this moment, I don't really 92 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: have to remember it because I can read it and 93 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: I get the flow on the vibe of it because 94 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 1: I know what I wrote it. I know what it's 95 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 1: supposed to sound like. I know I'm supposed to feel like. 96 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:45,359 Speaker 1: But the words come back to me as I read it, 97 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: you know, doing it like this, the words are it's 98 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 1: like it's already embedded in you. It's already you know, 99 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 1: it's becomes part of you, becomes one and and and 100 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: it actually flows and just feels so much better. It 101 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:03,119 Speaker 1: just it feels like it's just another instrument over the track. 102 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 1: And and so I learned that from home because you know, 103 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 1: um he one day I was supposed to be on 104 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: a Can I Live? And so um I go to 105 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: the studio and uh ho is in there? And I'm like, 106 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: I was late, sister, and so I break up my 107 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: get that, break up my pin in my pad. You're 108 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: about to write my verse to Canny, probably write my 109 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: verse can I Live? And he's like, you know, I 110 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: got it, so we've done rule. It's like you late 111 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 1: to this one, you know what I mean? And I'm like, 112 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: what's talking about? Like I don't, I don't see nothing, 113 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And he went in the 114 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: booth and he started to recite his verses, and at 115 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: that moment, I'm like, okay, home, what was what is 116 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: this magic trick? But what this happened there? He didn't 117 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: I don't see because he was just vibing on it. 118 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: He's like, I already got it and then winning and recited. 119 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: So I'm like, okay, I didn't see where he had 120 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: it done, you know what I mean? There was no 121 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: finished homework here, so you know, and so he said, no, 122 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: you know, I write it. You know in my head 123 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: it's alright that one get like like you know, who 124 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: do does that? And so I started doing it because 125 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: I didn't believe it could be done. If that makes yeah. 126 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 1: I wanted to see if that was a real thing, 127 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: that actually it was possible. And you know, like I said, 128 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 1: as you started with two bars and four bars, and 129 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: it intended to just it starts to flow that way 130 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: really really easy. And then you know, as time went on, 131 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 1: I started recording in a lot of different ways to 132 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: like sometimes I'll you know, get the vibe of a record, 133 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: go in record sixty eight bars, let it, let it rest, 134 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 1: and then you know, think of another sixth day bars 135 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,559 Speaker 1: and finish it off. You know, you know I've grown 136 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 1: to do things in a lot of different ways. It's 137 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: because it's just you know, it becomes your process, your 138 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 1: recording process, and a lot of different artists have a 139 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: lot of different, you know, crazy recording processes that are 140 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 1: really dope and unique, like like ol d B. He 141 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: you know, he used to do some dope shit. He 142 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: record every bar fine for line, I'm the one then 143 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: I mean, hey, song, all right, stop punch me and 144 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: then say that this like it's just you know, everybody 145 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 1: has their own genius to the way they record, to 146 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 1: the way they do things. And you know that that 147 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: was just I thought that was really really interesting and 148 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: dope and genius that that t J could do that. 149 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: And I believe he learned that from Big, I want 150 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: to say, but I don't know if he learned it 151 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: from Big or if that's just something that they need, 152 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: you know, But about I also a big recording like 153 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 1: that as well. Yeah, do you what comes first? The 154 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: music or the lyrics? Music? Music? Yeah? But sometimes you know, 155 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: so I've become someone of a producer because I can 156 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: I hear music, but I just can't play it. And 157 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: so if I create a melody, I create a hook, 158 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: I can hear what I wanted to sound like over 159 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 1: a track. I can hear you know, what the track 160 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: or what I would like the track to be. And sometimes, 161 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 1: you know, I'll go in and let producers know, you 162 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 1: know that play or players know that alight. I hear 163 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: you know, uh over this because this is what I'm saying, 164 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: you know, verbally, So I wanted to kind of match 165 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 1: what it is, and so I will give them I 166 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 1: hear horns, I hear you know, and so you know, 167 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 1: they'll play these things and create them and then go 168 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: on their own away with it, which is what creativity 169 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 1: is about. So you know, sometimes I you know, record 170 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 1: like that when I think of the hook first, but 171 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: nine of the time I like to get the beat 172 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 1: and then I'll create around that. Man, we'sh your relationship 173 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:29,199 Speaker 1: like now with jay Z you mentioned them earlier. Yeah, 174 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:33,319 Speaker 1: I mean me and Hope we have a relationship, but 175 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: it's distant. You know, we don't we don't speak often, 176 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: you know, but when we see each other's love, it's cool. 177 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: You know on the five you know, I ever need 178 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: to hit them for anything. It's it's love as cool 179 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 1: as no you know so and vice versa. You know. 180 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 1: So it's just you know, it's it's that's that's the condlation. 181 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: It's just kind of like, you know, we'd be he's 182 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 1: doing what he's doing, what I'm doing, what I'm doing, 183 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 1: but mutual respect and love from you know, where we 184 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: come from. I you know, I look at you know, 185 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: what Jay is and and what X was rest in 186 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: peace and what I am as we all come from 187 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 1: the same school of them seeing the doghouse. You know 188 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: that that that that mentality of battle rap and and everything. 189 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 1: I know, I make the the you know, but I 190 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: didn't come from that. You know, I can know you 191 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: can hear it. And even when you even when you're 192 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: doing the hippop slash R and B whatever they want 193 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: to call it or whatever, you can hear the competitive 194 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: spirit in it. It's a gristive, you know, it's like 195 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: going in you know, so you can definitely hear it. 196 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: And speaking of X and we just mentioned jay Z, 197 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 1: you guys had that murder inc group rap group at 198 00:12:56,840 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 1: one point. It never materialized. Whatever happened to that. It 199 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: wasn't really for me. It was never really a group. 200 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 1: We would never really agree. So what was that about? 201 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: Because y'all was on the God he wanted us to 202 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 1: be a group. God God, he wanted us to make 203 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:15,719 Speaker 1: a group album. Yeah, And it's just, you know, your 204 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: will is so crazy because EX and X and J 205 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: so competitive. We all were very competitive. I'm very competitive 206 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:30,719 Speaker 1: with those guys. But they had a a competitive thing 207 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 1: that was like I just well, it was just you know, 208 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 1: and then I guess it stemmed from their old battle 209 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:41,439 Speaker 1: that they had or whatever, and and there competitive spirit 210 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: was just crazy. It was hard to get them in 211 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 1: the same mood together, but they respected each other as 212 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: mcs and and and I think that's important, you know, 213 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: first and foremost not you well, now, yeah, I definitely listen. 214 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 1: I was the younger and and and I was, you know, 215 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:03,719 Speaker 1: realistically with it. I was just happy to be there. 216 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: I was hable to be a part of that. You know, 217 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: I was younger than them, but you know, I felt 218 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 1: like I was on part with them, like I'm on 219 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 1: you know, their level as far as making records and 220 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: then seeing I just felt I was there, you know 221 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: what I mean. And and you know, I didn't have 222 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: any issues with being a part of the situation when 223 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 1: I ever wanted to put together other than I felt 224 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 1: like this, if this happens, this will always be my 225 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: legacy of you know, John started with that Mega group 226 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: and that's how he blew up. So when it didn't 227 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: happen that way and I started making my own records 228 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: and started blowing up and becoming something, then I was like, Okay, 229 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: now I feel like I really belonged a part of it, right. 230 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: I didn't feel like before then, I didn't feel like 231 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: even though they accepted me as one of the three 232 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 1: of the group, I felt like these two had proven 233 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: to the world that they earned, that they are those mcs, 234 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: those type of m c s, and then I just 235 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 1: feel like I didn't at that moment, At that point, 236 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: I hadn't proven myself, you know, to the world, and 237 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 1: as I started making my mark, then I felt like, 238 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: you know, wow, I wish this would have came to fruition. 239 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 1: But I always think about that scenario of you know, 240 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: what that would have been for me as an artists, 241 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: and and I'm kind of happy it went the way 242 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 1: it did. Yeah, when I saw that that cover XXL, 243 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: I was like, shit, Like, oh man, that rude d 244 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 1: M X jay Z. Are you talking about a supergroup? 245 00:15:56,480 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: Like say, I was like, if that happened, it's a rap. 246 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 1: You know, I would have definitely liked at least Hee 247 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 1: one one album, But you know, things happening, And I 248 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: think every record we did was dope though. Yeah, that's 249 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: that's facts. Every record we did we do from you know, 250 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: from from It's Murder the Murder Gram and X and 251 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: Jay did Money Cash Hose and me and Jay the 252 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 1: Gangster Ship, and like we just we had a we 253 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: had a a like, you know, if we was to 254 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: put that project together then back then, and it would 255 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 1: have been you know, me and next doing the record 256 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: here and me and Jane and then all of us, 257 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: and you know, it would have been crazy. It would 258 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: have been very crazy. Man, take me back two the eighties. 259 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 1: Jeffrey Atkins growing up in Queens Man, Man, what was 260 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: that like? It was hip hop? A lot of it 261 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 1: was a lot of hip hop culture, you know, in 262 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 1: in my in my hood because run DMC l cool 263 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: j Yeah, he's do you know run you know, big up, 264 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:17,360 Speaker 1: big up, big up to to my big brother godfather, 265 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:22,439 Speaker 1: run Um Run DMC was right from I was like 266 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:27,120 Speaker 1: they want two or five? And how this was where 267 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 1: they was right right there and I'm right up to 268 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: block on what night one and would all but I 269 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: used to be, you know, on Hollos all the time, 270 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: and that's what we used to get money right there 271 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: on that block over there, and so I used to 272 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:46,199 Speaker 1: see them all the time come through. And I remember 273 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: this story vividly like it was yesterday. The d m C. 274 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 1: They shot the dm C whatever d um he had 275 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: a black A fifty the pop up lights A fifty. 276 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:14,120 Speaker 1: I BMW me and it's some weird crazy way that 277 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 1: car played a big role in my life because it 278 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 1: inspired you exactly inspired me. I was like, man, I 279 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 1: want that car. I want that car. Was so amazing 280 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 1: to me. And so as as you know, as I 281 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: got in you know, junior high school and going in 282 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: high school and we saw selling drugs and the block 283 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 1: and you know, ship like that. That was the other 284 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: success story that I was able to witness coming out 285 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 1: of my neighborhood, not some point because you know, people 286 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: not you know, hustling and drug dealing and and how 287 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:04,160 Speaker 1: um some some of our you you know, make money 288 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 1: in our neighborhoods. But everybody wants to be successful, and 289 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: I think, you know, people don't understand that the first 290 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 1: signs of success, the first successful people I've seen was 291 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 1: you know, because I was getting money on the streets 292 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 1: and so being from Hollis, seeing another success story somebody 293 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 1: else that did something other than that and had that 294 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: was important because for me it was like, okay, you know, 295 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:43,439 Speaker 1: this is one way to achieve that, but there's the 296 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 1: other way. I could be like run DMC, I could 297 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 1: you know, when you never see anybody from your hood 298 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:57,199 Speaker 1: or from your regional area make it, it makes it 299 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 1: feel like it's that much harder to achieve. I've never 300 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 1: seen anybody come from here and make it. That's why 301 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: y'all was so important. That's why with you and Face 302 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 1: and be Bushwick and the ghetto boys at WHI y'all 303 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 1: did for the South was so important. Y'all gave these 304 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:20,920 Speaker 1: young aspiring artists and wrapped, you know, talented young motherfucker's 305 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: a vision of date from right here in Houston. I 306 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 1: see Willie, I see Space, I see them all the time, 307 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: and they're doing it. And that was that. That was 308 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 1: enough to inspire the next generation of mcs and for 309 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 1: running you know, run DMC. That was that for me. 310 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,679 Speaker 1: It was that was enough to inspire me to Okay, 311 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 1: let me let me explore something other than this, because 312 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: this is the only outlet that I thought I had 313 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 1: out and and and thank God for that, you know 314 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 1: what I mean? Thank God and all I said all 315 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 1: the time, thank God for hip hop. Yeah yeah, m hmm. 316 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 1: If my homework is correct, you was raised by a 317 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 1: single mother, Yeah, yeah, so were what what was the 318 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 1: financial situation where y'all like poor, you know, medium, you know, alright, 319 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:30,159 Speaker 1: what what was going on? Man? See he's crazy? So 320 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 1: my my my grandparents, we're more stable at a house 321 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 1: you know, grass car you know. And where did they live. 322 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 1: They lived in Hollis as well. They lived like kind 323 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:49,719 Speaker 1: of were running mc wherever at so two or seven 324 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: and for instance, Lewis is like maybe a block offer Hollie. 325 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 1: So so it's a nice you know, a house there, 326 00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: but houses here, you know, you know, you know how 327 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 1: that go. So they had a nice stable environment and 328 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 1: my mom knew that, and so she made me stay 329 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 1: with my grandparents and live with my grandparents for a 330 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:19,400 Speaker 1: while until I was about eleven twelve years old, which 331 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 1: was cool, and they were they were Joe's witnesses, my 332 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,439 Speaker 1: my my grandparents and as well as my mother, my mother, 333 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 1: my family. And so as I as I got older, 334 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 1: I started to you know, seem more learn more about 335 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 1: the religion. And my mother she got this fellowship. And 336 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 1: when when you get this fellowship, just like it's like 337 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 1: they banish you, like to just on you from the 338 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 1: from the congregation and nobody's allowed to speak to you. 339 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 1: So a mother would come get me like just on 340 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 1: weekends like that. That was like her time to spend 341 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 1: with me was on weekends. And so once she got 342 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 1: this fellowship. They kind of cut that time my grand 343 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 1: because you gets banished. My grandparents stopped the visits and 344 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:10,439 Speaker 1: it was like, you know, this is trying to explain 345 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,400 Speaker 1: it to me and whatever the best way they could possible. 346 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 1: But at that point in time, when you're that age, 347 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: you know, it's like a that's like a really it's 348 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: like a really weird age because you like coming of age, 349 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: you understand things, you're coming into you know, young adulthood, 350 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 1: but you're still very much a child, you know, you 351 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying around that twelve year old age. 352 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 1: And so I made decisions as a young man, you know, 353 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: at that at that moment, to choose my mother and 354 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:53,399 Speaker 1: her situation and you know, over the comfortability of being 355 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 1: you know, with my grandparents. So you so, I so 356 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 1: I left because my mother couldn't come see me like that. 357 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 1: I said, you know, this is not what I want 358 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 1: to do. This is this is not you know what 359 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 1: this should be about this, you know, this religion thing. 360 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: So I left, I'm stay with my mom. And from 361 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 1: that point on it was different. Everything was different from me, 362 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 1: Like that comfortability of having my grandparents as a you know, 363 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: crutch and every things there, you know, food and you 364 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 1: know whatever. It wasn't the same anymore. It was you, yeah, 365 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 1: we're moving from place to place, and you know, like 366 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 1: I said, the family is really not fucking with us 367 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,400 Speaker 1: at all. It was like we were the black sheep 368 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 1: to the family. No, my mother was looked upon as 369 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 1: the outcast, you know, like she she was a bad 370 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 1: person to them. And my mother never went back to 371 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 1: the religion, which was fine with me. So what was 372 00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: like like one of the like more serious type of 373 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 1: situations when you were growing up that made you say, like, 374 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:12,439 Speaker 1: I can't live like this when you know, one day 375 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 1: I came home from school and there was a viction 376 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 1: notice on the door. It wasn't the first time I've 377 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 1: seen the viction ortice on the door, you know, you know, 378 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: we take it down and it was over I seeing it, 379 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: bringing bringing the crib, you know, tell my mom you 380 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 1: have no on the door, you know, whatever, whatever. But 381 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,880 Speaker 1: this time was different because not you know, I took 382 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 1: the viction nor was reported into my mom, and she 383 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 1: broke down. She broke down, and at that time, you know, 384 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 1: in my neighborhood and just in hoods across America, crack 385 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: cocaine was very very uh you know, vibring in the neighborhood. 386 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: It was moving. The motherfucker's was selling it. Everybody was 387 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 1: doing It was like, it wasn't like you had to 388 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 1: be you didn't have to be no drug kingpin or nothing. 389 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,679 Speaker 1: You go get a pack and and and just get 390 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 1: on the block and start moving, you know. And so 391 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 1: at that moment, my mom she broke down, and she 392 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 1: she was just basically telling me how sorry she was 393 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 1: and you know whatever, you know, and and and she 394 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: didn't really have an answer at that moment for what 395 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 1: was gonna be our next situation. And so at that moment, 396 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 1: I think I became a man because I knew that 397 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 1: I couldn't break down and cry with her. I knew 398 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 1: that I had to be strong for her, even though 399 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 1: I didn't know what the fun was about to have it. 400 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,880 Speaker 1: I just like, this is, you know, we were gonna 401 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 1: get thrown out of here, and I don't know where 402 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,880 Speaker 1: we're gonna go. I'm probably about twelve thirteen years old, 403 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But I knew right then 404 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 1: and there like this is a changing point, that that 405 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,880 Speaker 1: was the changing point for me. I knew I had 406 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 1: to be strong for my mom and whatever whatever, I 407 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 1: had to do that from this point, I'll do to 408 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 1: help my mom because I felt like it's just me 409 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: and her now, it's just me huggin's world. Like I'm like, 410 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:25,880 Speaker 1: we're not getting no assistance from you know, my grandparents anymore. 411 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 1: It's just you know, fan, her brothers, everybody stopped speaking 412 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 1: to him. So it was like, you know, it was 413 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 1: but that's the thing. It's a religious thing. It's not. 414 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 1: So I'm not just saying that it was an evil thing, 415 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 1: even though it sounds that way. I know, to the 416 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 1: you know, to the normal listen or whatever, that's that's 417 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: that's how the religion goes. Did you feel any pressure 418 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 1: to become a Jehova Witness? No, not at all. I 419 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,920 Speaker 1: you know, they make you do it, absolutely, But you 420 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: know what, what kid is not made to go to 421 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: church through these and he's young, you know, so yeah, 422 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,120 Speaker 1: so I was made to go and I didn't want 423 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 1: to go, but you know, you had to go, and 424 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 1: you did it, and I did it. But once I 425 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: was with my mom, I never looked back on it. 426 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 1: I actually looked at the religion as bad evil because 427 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, this is what broke up my family, this 428 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 1: is doing this religion, Like my family would be together, 429 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: my mom, my grandparents would be This wouldn't be my 430 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 1: life if it wasn't for this religion. So the religion. 431 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,680 Speaker 1: I hated the religion because of it. I blame the 432 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 1: religion for all of that, Like this is the religious fault. 433 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 1: What I'm going through and my mom is going through, 434 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 1: what we're all dealing with, is this religion. And I 435 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: felt that way because as I got older and my 436 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 1: mom got a chance to explain to me what she 437 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 1: really did to get banished, and I'm like, that's it. 438 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, that's all you think is so, So that's 439 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 1: all I'll fill you in because it's not even a 440 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 1: big deal. So when your Joe's when you're not allowed 441 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 1: to associate with corner worldly people, worldly people, or people 442 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 1: who are not in the religion. So you work at 443 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 1: a job or you go to school, who the funding 444 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 1: you just dealing with. You're dealing with worldly people. You 445 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 1: work with these people, these are and and and it 446 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 1: doesn't make them bad people because they're not Jehovah's witnesses. 447 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 1: You understand what I'm saying. But you're not allowed or 448 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 1: not supposed to associate with these people because they're not 449 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,959 Speaker 1: of this religion. Now. I know they may have loosened 450 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 1: up the way it works and ship like that now, 451 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 1: but that's the way it worked there. Say this is 452 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 1: why my motherfuck cousin, don't be asking the phone. I 453 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 1: knew it was that deep know what, he's Jehovah's witness 454 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 1: man and you you're a worldly person, you do worldly 455 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: things they're not gonna do. But that was that, that 456 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 1: was what it was about. And so you know, she 457 00:29:56,120 --> 00:30:01,239 Speaker 1: got dispellership because after to work she'd go with her 458 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 1: co workers and ship, go have drinks and stuff like that. 459 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 1: Regular people ship go out to clubs and you know whatever, 460 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 1: and party would help, you know. So in my mother's eyes, 461 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 1: she was living a double life because you're not supposed 462 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 1: to do these things. And she, my mother would go 463 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 1: to the go to the Keenom Hall church and then 464 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 1: right out of the churches, getting a move on, and 465 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 1: go down to the party with the co workers and ship. 466 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 1: And so when she got this fellowship, she felt like, 467 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 1: you know what, fucking I'm cool, I'm free, you know 468 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I don't have to fake who I 469 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 1: am and I'm not doing no pig, I'm not doing 470 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 1: nothing that's crazy. I'm yeah, I like to fucking go 471 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 1: out and have some fun or whatever and and show 472 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 1: once I learned about what it when I was saying, 473 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 1: you know whatever, so now here it's the crazy ship. 474 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 1: Right as I get into the music business started coming 475 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 1: a star ship like that. It's all good now, it 476 00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 1: was all good families all back but one moment, yo, 477 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 1: And I know for a fact it was because of 478 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 1: who I was becoming that was bringing the family back together, 479 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 1: you know, my celebrity, my stuff. And I could have 480 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 1: looked at it as you know what or now everybody 481 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 1: wants to come around, you know, you know the but 482 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 1: I've seen the the joy and the happiness in my 483 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 1: mother's eyes to have her brother, you know, back, and 484 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 1: and and you know they spoke, of course, but it 485 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 1: wasn't just the relationship wasn't the same. And I think 486 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 1: the relationships always had a little something there after. But 487 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 1: for me to see, you know, my family be back together, 488 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 1: I don't, I don't. I don't care. What's the circumstances 489 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 1: of what it is and what did it. I can 490 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 1: have my own thoughts about it or whatever. But I 491 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 1: just know that my mother is happy. They're happy to 492 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 1: be together again. And and and if it took you know, 493 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 1: my celebrity, my hip hop to do that too, that's 494 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 1: cool too. Yeah, you know what I mean? How did 495 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 1: you decide to go the route of primarily talking about 496 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 1: love situations, relationships and things like that, because that's where 497 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 1: people know you for that. I mean, I saw your 498 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 1: show and you know, hey, man, the women came out. 499 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 1: It's like the women come out for ja Rue, Like, 500 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 1: how did you decide that? Okay, I'm gonna go this 501 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 1: route of talking about relationships, you know, the ups and downs, 502 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:44,720 Speaker 1: the end and as the highs and lows or whatever, 503 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 1: as opposed to talking about hardships, you know, because you 504 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 1: knew a lot about hardships, and most rappers who know 505 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 1: about hardships, that's how they get on. They talk about 506 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 1: that's what we did. Yeah yeah, but what But what 507 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 1: I'm saying is that, yeah, you do talk about hardships, 508 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 1: but primarily you're known for the relationship side. And that's 509 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 1: not a knock because I'll explain, when you do it 510 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 1: the way you do it, you're in pocket with it. 511 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 1: Like when you hear somebody here j rou talk about relationships. 512 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 1: They're listening to a person who's given sage advice. That's 513 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 1: a person that knows, okay, like it sounds like the 514 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 1: ship that I'm going through. What he's talking about, It's 515 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 1: like what I'm going through right now. You know. So, 516 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 1: but but but how how do how do you? How 517 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 1: do you? How do you feel about that? Like being 518 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:43,479 Speaker 1: known more for you know, the relationships side of uh 519 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 1: rapping as opposed to speaking of the hardships. You know 520 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 1: where oftentimes when people uh, when they compare it to 521 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 1: the people who talk about the hardships, oftentimes more often 522 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 1: you know, they get more shine, you know, or they 523 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 1: get a lot more respect. I'm talking about not just 524 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 1: in record sales, but as far as how people revere them. 525 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,359 Speaker 1: I do, I do understand exactly what you're saying. Um, 526 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:17,760 Speaker 1: Like take a two part fans you know, spoke about 527 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 1: his pain all the time, and he's revered differently. UM 528 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 1: for me, you know, making records for for for for 529 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 1: for the females. It was it was a conscious decision too, 530 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:43,360 Speaker 1: you know, um, when you when you know, like like 531 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 1: we were talking about it earlier, when I was in 532 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 1: between two monsters to juggalizes my two brothers, J and X. 533 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 1: And Jay was you know, money personified, and now was 534 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:02,840 Speaker 1: his you know, his possana, and X was the streets. 535 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:05,919 Speaker 1: And I'm you know, I'm a little bit of both, 536 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 1: you know, I'm I'm a little bit grimy and you know, 537 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,319 Speaker 1: I'm a little flashy, like I like a little bit 538 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:16,720 Speaker 1: of both of them, you know. And nobody was feeling 539 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 1: that Lane and I of of catering and talking to 540 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 1: the ladies in that way. And and so yeah, when 541 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 1: I made my second album, I wanted to be different. 542 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,359 Speaker 1: I wanted to be as different as possible. I grew 543 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:38,280 Speaker 1: my hair, you know, I was, you know, basically bored 544 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 1: before that, you know, and you know, the low season 545 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 1: like seasons, and I grew my hair, had braids and 546 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 1: started making music that reflected what I was going through now, okay, 547 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:58,279 Speaker 1: now what I've been through, what I'm seeing, and what 548 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 1: I'm going through now. Okay, So my second album, I 549 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 1: went got this big mansion out in Beverly Hills. Um 550 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:14,640 Speaker 1: actually wasn't the Whos and uh uh, it was Hollywood Hills, 551 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 1: Lord King, and we were just living like ghetto fabulous. 552 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:27,359 Speaker 1: It was like the most flies sucked up the house 553 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 1: you ever wanted to see with beautiful house. But we 554 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 1: had like renaissent the furniship in the motherfucker. Yeah, we 555 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 1: was we was doing what were doing? You know, we 556 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,359 Speaker 1: didn't know, Yeah, we didn't know no better. We had 557 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,880 Speaker 1: a room that we called the Dome and it was 558 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 1: just like eight beds in the motherfucker for all homies, 559 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:54,840 Speaker 1: you know. So, but we were we were starting to see, 560 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,239 Speaker 1: you know, through all the homies out he's you know, 561 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,040 Speaker 1: we were starting to live. We're starting to see you 562 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 1: were going out. Also, I was night every night, every night, 563 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,239 Speaker 1: you know, and and we in l A you know, 564 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:11,440 Speaker 1: you know that first, you know. So, and so the 565 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,240 Speaker 1: music started to reflect and I wanted the music to reflect. 566 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 1: I wanted my sound and everything to be different. It 567 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 1: was different. It was what I was becoming versus what 568 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 1: I was and when I went through. And you know, 569 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 1: that's the beauty of your first album, and first album 570 00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,800 Speaker 1: is it's it's a body of work, that's your whole 571 00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,960 Speaker 1: life up until that point. You know what I'm saying. 572 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:34,720 Speaker 1: That's why people's first albums are special to so many fans, 573 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 1: and you know, because it is that body of work. 574 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,239 Speaker 1: That's you know, from when I was you know, you 575 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 1: get those records on my first album and we gotten signed. 576 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 1: I'm talking about my father and daddy's a little baby 577 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:46,960 Speaker 1: who I'm talking about my daughter, and you know, you know, 578 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:48,960 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Those are those are records 579 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 1: that you know, once I got to the second album, 580 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 1: Rule through three six, I wasn't holding from five. I 581 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,040 Speaker 1: was on a we out here living it up, you know, 582 00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,920 Speaker 1: say we you know, to vibe the music change because 583 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 1: that's what I was experienced, That's what I was going through. 584 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,120 Speaker 1: But I also, like I said, I made a conscious 585 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:13,319 Speaker 1: decision to cater more to my female audience because they 586 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 1: were catering the meat. I was seeing that, you know 587 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:21,240 Speaker 1: that I was getting a heavy swell of female audience 588 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,759 Speaker 1: and so as they gave me the love, I gave 589 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,319 Speaker 1: it right back to them, and it reflected in the music. 590 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 1: And I'm telling you, def Jam didn't like that album. 591 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,239 Speaker 1: They didn't like my second album at all. They didn't 592 00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:35,200 Speaker 1: want me to Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, then it was 593 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 1: then it was then it was different thinking about those 594 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,160 Speaker 1: songs that you made, Like when you know you mentioned 595 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 1: you know how you know pot the comparison there, that's 596 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:53,280 Speaker 1: a good comparison. The difference is that pot Pot struggle 597 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:58,719 Speaker 1: songs were played on the radio. Your struggle songs were not. No, 598 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,360 Speaker 1: And that's the difference. And I think, but you know, 599 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:05,719 Speaker 1: here's the here's the craziesh about it. See William Yo, 600 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:10,880 Speaker 1: There's so many records that I wanted to make, singles 601 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:16,760 Speaker 1: that I felt would have put me in a different 602 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:24,239 Speaker 1: m h heartened space of the people along with those 603 00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 1: the records. But at the time, you know, when when 604 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:32,560 Speaker 1: I was doing what I was doing, it was you know, 605 00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,880 Speaker 1: first single, second single, hopefully third single on to the 606 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,520 Speaker 1: next album, you know what I mean. You didn't get 607 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:43,759 Speaker 1: to do like how artists get to do so many 608 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,600 Speaker 1: records off the album today and give you so many 609 00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,440 Speaker 1: different visuals. I wish I could have did that. I 610 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 1: wish I could have did that. I wish there was 611 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:52,680 Speaker 1: so many records that I wish I could I wish 612 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,279 Speaker 1: I wanted to do a video for fucking only begotten Son, 613 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:57,399 Speaker 1: like they let me do that these little baby because 614 00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,560 Speaker 1: it was about my daughter, you know, but it didn't 615 00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 1: slap like you know, uh some of my bigger records, 616 00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:08,240 Speaker 1: you know, Holla, Holla was my first really hit record, 617 00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:14,759 Speaker 1: and and you know, so, so what happens sometimes with 618 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:19,560 Speaker 1: all the like myself, that that the labels figure out 619 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:25,759 Speaker 1: this guy is capable of making really big records. They 620 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:29,160 Speaker 1: want you to make those records, and if you make 621 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,879 Speaker 1: those records, those are the records that they're gonna put out. 622 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,360 Speaker 1: And that's what I was kind of up against. I 623 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,160 Speaker 1: love to make those records too, and so they were 624 00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:42,400 Speaker 1: on every album because if you listen to my albums, 625 00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:46,520 Speaker 1: it's a contrast of everything. It has those records as 626 00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:50,160 Speaker 1: my street records, that has my feeling records that they're 627 00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:53,360 Speaker 1: all on there. It's just the labeled new the ones 628 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 1: to say, these are the money makers and we're gonna 629 00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,480 Speaker 1: let those be you know, the album. So so my 630 00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,120 Speaker 1: real hard fans that's why that show die hard with 631 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:06,040 Speaker 1: me because they know the records like Passion. They know, 632 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,120 Speaker 1: you know, they they hear six Ft under the Ground. 633 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:12,680 Speaker 1: They listen to those records and they're like, rule these records, 634 00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:17,160 Speaker 1: you know, never again. These records are very very like 635 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,799 Speaker 1: those type of records. That's over the Passion records. They 636 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,720 Speaker 1: you know, but those are some of my favorite records. 637 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:32,200 Speaker 1: That's why I created, uh, a concert series coll Vibes, 638 00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,879 Speaker 1: and I haven't done one yet. I'm doing the first 639 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,960 Speaker 1: one and it's gonna come up in a couple of 640 00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:48,520 Speaker 1: months maybe maybe soon. So you take and it will 641 00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,160 Speaker 1: be dope for y'all to do one too. So I 642 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:55,719 Speaker 1: was inspired by Versus and I have my own live 643 00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:59,120 Speaker 1: streaming platform. It's called icon Live. It's an app store 644 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:04,480 Speaker 1: which you can go get that absolutely, but um uh, 645 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:08,200 Speaker 1: it's a it's a it's a concert series that I'm 646 00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,040 Speaker 1: gonna do on on icon But also, you know, we 647 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:14,080 Speaker 1: have the ability to do a lot now the world's 648 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,080 Speaker 1: back open, so but I wanted to be a warm, 649 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:22,560 Speaker 1: intimate setting kind of like um MTV m plugs meets Rhuma. Reason. So, 650 00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:28,320 Speaker 1: the concept of it is you're take an iconic artists 651 00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,719 Speaker 1: and they do their classic album from front to back, 652 00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:38,960 Speaker 1: live band, telling the stories behind the music, what they 653 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,160 Speaker 1: were going through, and they made this album because people 654 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:45,239 Speaker 1: those classic albums. You think of these, you know those 655 00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:49,080 Speaker 1: really really dope albums. You you get the Deal Boys 656 00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:53,920 Speaker 1: album or you know, Fucking Miseducation Lauren Hill, or you 657 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,240 Speaker 1: know some of these just really cool, dope dope albums 658 00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:59,520 Speaker 1: that people really really would love to hear what the 659 00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,759 Speaker 1: fund artist was going through when you mean that, you 660 00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:06,960 Speaker 1: know what I mean? It's that and it's a concert 661 00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,839 Speaker 1: series and it's warm and it's intimate, and you tell 662 00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,440 Speaker 1: the stories behind the music with the live band, and 663 00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,839 Speaker 1: then you released the album as a live album after 664 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:20,600 Speaker 1: that and as a whole new life. So so so 665 00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,160 Speaker 1: this is what the Vibes Concert Series is gonna be about. 666 00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:27,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna start and do the first you know, concert series. 667 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:32,279 Speaker 1: I'm going to do any very VICI live and you know, 668 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:46,719 Speaker 1: pullout my face. Yeah yeah, yeah, man, his story? Man, 669 00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:52,200 Speaker 1: whose idea was it to pair you and ashante Um? 670 00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:56,000 Speaker 1: You know, of course she was a part of the label. 671 00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,879 Speaker 1: She was artist on the label. A hell of a run. 672 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,759 Speaker 1: I mean, y'all could not miss. Yeah, we have a 673 00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:06,800 Speaker 1: great chemistry, man, but yeah, we absolutely doe. Whose idea 674 00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:11,719 Speaker 1: was that? I mean, you know, I don't know who's idea. 675 00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:13,919 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's just something that kind of really 676 00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:17,680 Speaker 1: really just happened. You know. Home used to be in 677 00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:21,120 Speaker 1: the studio. He was, you know, studio rat and it 678 00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,440 Speaker 1: was all the time. Every day she'd beat there a 679 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,880 Speaker 1: little hoodie on and sweats and ship just soaking it 680 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:31,080 Speaker 1: up right, and you know, and you know, I was 681 00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:35,279 Speaker 1: making all these big records, female records and ship and 682 00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:43,600 Speaker 1: at the time we were constructing, I just did like, 683 00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:46,839 Speaker 1: ain't it funny Always on Time? I mean, I'm sorry, 684 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,719 Speaker 1: not anything, I'm real, Ain't it funny for j Lo? 685 00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:57,759 Speaker 1: And and you know, those records were skyrocketing, and I 686 00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:01,800 Speaker 1: think it was working on Always on Time, and we 687 00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:03,760 Speaker 1: were looking for a different artists to put on Always 688 00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:07,200 Speaker 1: on the Town. You know, god he was. He put Alicia, 689 00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,279 Speaker 1: you know, Beyonce. Let's get somebody, you know, big, big 690 00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:13,600 Speaker 1: name on this record. And I was like, yeah, we 691 00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:17,080 Speaker 1: got you know, home girls, you see it all the time. 692 00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,760 Speaker 1: Let's give her us. Let it there. She dreaded reference 693 00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:23,279 Speaker 1: these other records, and she has a pretty well yeah, 694 00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,120 Speaker 1: so she you know, she she came and did it. 695 00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:30,520 Speaker 1: Knock it out. It sounded amazing, and it's like, Okay, 696 00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:32,480 Speaker 1: this is it. Let's front, you know what I mean. 697 00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,160 Speaker 1: And then we and then it was after that it 698 00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,360 Speaker 1: was put on, put a body on this, put a 699 00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,240 Speaker 1: body on that. Last, let's you know this, this chemistry 700 00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:43,120 Speaker 1: is dope that we have. And and so we made 701 00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,920 Speaker 1: a lot of records together all the dope records together 702 00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:48,480 Speaker 1: and we crush it. You know what I'm saying. We 703 00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:56,920 Speaker 1: we we became something of our generation that wasn't there. Man. 704 00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:00,960 Speaker 1: I just thought about some ship. I just thought, what 705 00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:07,640 Speaker 1: thought about? What's the man? You and a shanty? Oh? 706 00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:12,160 Speaker 1: The motherfucking asked for the Simpson of him, the ash 707 00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:19,920 Speaker 1: for the Simpson of hip hop. You know, because asked 708 00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:23,000 Speaker 1: for the Simpson. Could not miss when they got in 709 00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:26,600 Speaker 1: the studio as far as like female male that that 710 00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:30,719 Speaker 1: that that chemistry that they had there was unmatched. I 711 00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:34,080 Speaker 1: mean they could not miss. And you and Ashante could 712 00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:37,440 Speaker 1: not miss. You know, that was beautiful man. And when 713 00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:41,440 Speaker 1: chemistry yeah, and you know, and to see that, to 714 00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:44,719 Speaker 1: see that at you know, at the you know, during 715 00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,560 Speaker 1: the versus battle, to see her come back out and 716 00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:52,560 Speaker 1: do her thing, like man, y'all the energy that y'all had, man, 717 00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:57,000 Speaker 1: I mean, the nostalia that that it that it brought back, 718 00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:01,400 Speaker 1: It was like absolutely, man. Just it was appreciative. I 719 00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:05,160 Speaker 1: mean I was appreciative of it, you know, like I 720 00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:08,840 Speaker 1: was like, this is like it felt like it was 721 00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:12,520 Speaker 1: in a time capsule, you know, like nobody was missing, 722 00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:17,319 Speaker 1: you know, a beat that was beautiful man, like, how 723 00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:19,680 Speaker 1: did that verses come about in the first place? Who 724 00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:23,480 Speaker 1: made the call that? You know that it came together 725 00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:27,719 Speaker 1: so quick, it was like two weeks. It was yeah, 726 00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:30,200 Speaker 1: because man, it seemed like you prepared for that though, 727 00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:32,200 Speaker 1: it's like you must have been already ready or something. 728 00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:34,319 Speaker 1: He was seeing like he was cocking loaded for that thing, 729 00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:39,719 Speaker 1: you know, Like I said, man, I people don't really 730 00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,000 Speaker 1: know where I come from in the m C or 731 00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:46,160 Speaker 1: why you know, we were dogs, man, we come we 732 00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:48,479 Speaker 1: come from that that that school and what I'm seeing 733 00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,319 Speaker 1: just because I made you know, pretty female record. That's 734 00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:54,840 Speaker 1: my talent. That's what I'm able to do outside of 735 00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:59,279 Speaker 1: just rapping in them seeing But I go, you know 736 00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,200 Speaker 1: that's that's not you know nothing, that's neither you know there, 737 00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:07,759 Speaker 1: but the verses that it came about so quick. You know. 738 00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:12,320 Speaker 1: I was actually I was getting about to get in 739 00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:16,120 Speaker 1: the shower and I see the call from Swiss. I'm like, oh, ship, 740 00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:19,759 Speaker 1: so it's you know, it's called me that Austen. That's 741 00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,239 Speaker 1: it's about some business and ship. So I'm like, all right, 742 00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,759 Speaker 1: what's this must be? Versus? You know what I'm saying 743 00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:29,440 Speaker 1: is said to me about And I'm like okay, well, 744 00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:31,480 Speaker 1: well let's see what's happening. At first, I'm, you know, 745 00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:33,680 Speaker 1: thinking this is gonna be versus with me and the 746 00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:37,080 Speaker 1: other guy or whatever. But then I see fat Joe's 747 00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:39,840 Speaker 1: also on my line, and I'm like, okay, let me 748 00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:42,000 Speaker 1: see what Joe was talking about. So I called Joe. 749 00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:45,880 Speaker 1: Joe's like, yeah, versus rule. I'm like, okay, so that 750 00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,439 Speaker 1: my opponent is you, Joe, And I like, I would 751 00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:51,160 Speaker 1: you know, I'm with it, you know whatever, whatever, And 752 00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:54,920 Speaker 1: I called Swiss and he laid it down for you 753 00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,760 Speaker 1: know what it was. I have seen so many verses songs. 754 00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:01,080 Speaker 1: You know, all right, let's do it. Cracks are a 755 00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:03,080 Speaker 1: good friend, and it'll be friendly and it'll be fun, 756 00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:06,360 Speaker 1: and you know, I ain't got to kill nobody. And 757 00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,200 Speaker 1: you know what I liked. What I liked about it 758 00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:13,200 Speaker 1: was that, you know, for the most part, it was 759 00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:18,200 Speaker 1: very respectful. But they did come that time when he 760 00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:21,879 Speaker 1: made the comment about you know a little more in vita. 761 00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:25,239 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, And you know, and you 762 00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:29,520 Speaker 1: jumped on that real quick. Yeah, not on my watch, baby, 763 00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,200 Speaker 1: You're gonna disrespect the ladies on my wife's crack. But 764 00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:35,480 Speaker 1: I do know, I know, it's on the heat a battle. Yeah, yeah, 765 00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:37,799 Speaker 1: and I felt that and I felt this apology too. 766 00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:41,200 Speaker 1: I thought, yeah, I thought his apology was was very sincere. 767 00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:44,480 Speaker 1: He apologized that night before anything even really hit. The 768 00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:46,920 Speaker 1: fans and the ladies didn't even really know what he 769 00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:51,680 Speaker 1: was apologizing for. So you know, he he handled it. 770 00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,520 Speaker 1: And then we spoke, you know, behind the scenes. You know, 771 00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:57,160 Speaker 1: were brothers, so you know, we hold each other accountable 772 00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:00,480 Speaker 1: as we should as men. And I'm like, crack, there's 773 00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:04,840 Speaker 1: no you know, you you already apologize, but you know 774 00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:13,080 Speaker 1: it was a public display of you know, disrespect, so 775 00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:19,560 Speaker 1: you gotta give that same public apologize and so yeah, 776 00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:23,520 Speaker 1: and to his credit, he did absolutely, you know. And 777 00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:26,560 Speaker 1: the thing about it is that there's some people that's 778 00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:30,839 Speaker 1: on his level that would hold their nuts on that apology. 779 00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:33,839 Speaker 1: You're like, yeah, you know, he ain't I gotta apologize, 780 00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:35,320 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying? Why why you know, like 781 00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:38,120 Speaker 1: that type of thing. You know, he knew he was wrong, right, 782 00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:41,200 Speaker 1: he knew he knew you know that that that was 783 00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:45,319 Speaker 1: you know, wrong and over the line. And you can't 784 00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:47,359 Speaker 1: you you know, you're not you can't talk to these 785 00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:49,359 Speaker 1: these women like that. You can't talk to these black 786 00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:52,439 Speaker 1: queens like that crack, you know, and so he knew. 787 00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:56,279 Speaker 1: But you know, like sometimes when you you're in that 788 00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:59,520 Speaker 1: zone and you're doing the thing. I'm not making no 789 00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:01,440 Speaker 1: excuse us for what he said, what he did. You know, 790 00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:04,040 Speaker 1: he said what he said and he apologized for it. 791 00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:07,120 Speaker 1: But I do know how you can say some crazy 792 00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:10,400 Speaker 1: shit sometimes when you when you when you in that 793 00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:16,839 Speaker 1: in that in that doghouse, but you're in that doghouse. Yeah, yeah, 794 00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:22,560 Speaker 1: I feel that. What do you think about the current 795 00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:27,480 Speaker 1: state of hip hop? And do you think that it's 796 00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:34,440 Speaker 1: in good hands? And if so, whose hands are we 797 00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:39,520 Speaker 1: talking about? Like, you know, how do you feel about 798 00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:44,719 Speaker 1: the current state of hip hop? Um? I love the 799 00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:47,040 Speaker 1: current state of hip hop. And I'm gonna tell you 800 00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:56,440 Speaker 1: why we as hip hop legends, historians, you know, Elder Statesman, 801 00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:03,040 Speaker 1: we like to see see things sometimes through our own 802 00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:08,959 Speaker 1: lenses because we know hip hop to being a certain way, 803 00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:15,000 Speaker 1: we grew up on it a certain way. But for me, 804 00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:22,880 Speaker 1: as I looked at the evolution of hippop, it's it's changed. 805 00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:27,200 Speaker 1: Every two to four years, something new has come out 806 00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:30,880 Speaker 1: of hip hop m and so it's the same to me. 807 00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:37,600 Speaker 1: It's it's just elevating out of a more global pace. 808 00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:43,520 Speaker 1: It's seeing artists from home genres and spectrums and and 809 00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:47,760 Speaker 1: and cultures. You know, you got you know, African artists 810 00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:51,560 Speaker 1: and they're doing afrobeats music, and you know you got 811 00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:56,640 Speaker 1: reggaetone artists, and you got you know, we have gay 812 00:52:57,320 --> 00:53:02,600 Speaker 1: uh rappers. Now we have free type of country, rappy, 813 00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:06,920 Speaker 1: type of rapper that you can think of exists. Were 814 00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:12,640 Speaker 1: the only genre music that confused with any music rock, pop, country, 815 00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:17,440 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. That's the power of hip hop. And 816 00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:20,200 Speaker 1: when I look at it like that, I'm like, we 817 00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:26,040 Speaker 1: have to let it be that. It's odd artists, what 818 00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:29,200 Speaker 1: you can get away with. That's what war Hole said. 819 00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:32,280 Speaker 1: That's not my quote, that's what the fucking great Warhole said. 820 00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:35,120 Speaker 1: He said, artist, what you can get away with? And 821 00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:40,000 Speaker 1: you gotta look inside that and understand the meaning of that. M. 822 00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:44,440 Speaker 1: You understand if I can put a value on something 823 00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:53,640 Speaker 1: that's worth something to you, that's odd. M hmm. Do 824 00:53:53,800 --> 00:54:00,239 Speaker 1: you think that an artist perhaps is going to far 825 00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:05,080 Speaker 1: to make a statement like Lena's X made where he said, 826 00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:07,480 Speaker 1: fuck your kids? Did you know that? Did he? Do 827 00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:10,040 Speaker 1: you know? He said that he said yeah. He said, 828 00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:12,480 Speaker 1: he actually said fun your kids. On on the Breakfast Club, 829 00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:18,080 Speaker 1: DJ Envy asked him about his responsibility, asked him about 830 00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:22,680 Speaker 1: his responsibility to children, and he said, fuck your kids, 831 00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:25,359 Speaker 1: and and then he said, well, you know, not really 832 00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:30,000 Speaker 1: funk your kids, but funk your kids, you know, like uh, 833 00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:32,840 Speaker 1: And I know, like none of us are perfect. You know, 834 00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:36,000 Speaker 1: we've all staying and fallen shot of Glory Guard and 835 00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:41,560 Speaker 1: we all if you don't have some questionable lyrics, some 836 00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:44,439 Speaker 1: lyrics that have pushed the boundaries, you're really a great artist, 837 00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:47,399 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So we we've all you know, had 838 00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:50,279 Speaker 1: our moments or whatever. But you know, one thing that 839 00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:54,160 Speaker 1: I have never subscribed to is saying fun the kids, 840 00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:58,480 Speaker 1: you know, like you know, like yeah, you know, everybody's 841 00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:03,720 Speaker 1: entitled to be who they are and you know, express 842 00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:06,000 Speaker 1: themselves as an artist and expressed their hearts. I don't, 843 00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:07,719 Speaker 1: you know, I don't care. I want everybody to be there, 844 00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:10,919 Speaker 1: don't want everybody be happy being them. But like I said, 845 00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:13,040 Speaker 1: we all have to hold it, tell accountable for things 846 00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:17,799 Speaker 1: when they're wrong. That's it, just things when they're right 847 00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:23,160 Speaker 1: and wrong, you know. And if little Nasa said your kids, 848 00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:27,120 Speaker 1: that's on the wrong side of things. You know, you 849 00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:29,520 Speaker 1: can feel who you want, little Nozi, you can do 850 00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:33,080 Speaker 1: all the stuff that you want to do. Nobody, at 851 00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:34,920 Speaker 1: least not me. I'm not knocking that man for what 852 00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:37,440 Speaker 1: he does. I don't you know. I happen to think 853 00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:42,600 Speaker 1: he makes good music when you trash. Yeah, but we can, 854 00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:45,040 Speaker 1: we can. You know that. That's that that that's the 855 00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:49,600 Speaker 1: thing about music is subjective. That's true. It's subjects true, 856 00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:53,040 Speaker 1: you know. And so and so when I when I 857 00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:56,680 Speaker 1: think about you know, the responsibility that we have is artists. 858 00:55:56,719 --> 00:56:00,000 Speaker 1: We have big responsibilities artists. I didn't learn that responsibility 859 00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:04,400 Speaker 1: to I. You know, learn that responsibility you understand. And 860 00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:06,120 Speaker 1: I think a lot of artists can attest to that. 861 00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:08,520 Speaker 1: You know, we all came out while and and and 862 00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:11,400 Speaker 1: and and wanted our freedom of speech and wanted to 863 00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:14,160 Speaker 1: say funk this and funk that, and and that's just 864 00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:17,080 Speaker 1: the way hip hop always bred us to be. And 865 00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:19,719 Speaker 1: that's the way we always were. But wrong is wrong, 866 00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:22,560 Speaker 1: and we almost hold each other accountable when things are wrong, 867 00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:26,240 Speaker 1: and and and that goes across the border around spectrum. 868 00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:28,719 Speaker 1: So if we if we want to sit down and 869 00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:32,239 Speaker 1: have a real conversation, about hip hop and the destruction 870 00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:34,440 Speaker 1: and the things that it does to our kids and 871 00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:38,160 Speaker 1: our communities. We could have that conversation, but I don't 872 00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:40,719 Speaker 1: think my fucker's is really ready for that conversation because 873 00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:42,680 Speaker 1: then we got to talk about drill music and this 874 00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:46,000 Speaker 1: and that and all kinds of ship. And then it's 875 00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:52,280 Speaker 1: tapping in the ship that people feel comfortable with, you understand, 876 00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:56,719 Speaker 1: because it's not making them uncomfortable. And I think that's 877 00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:59,040 Speaker 1: what art does. It pushes the boundaries in a lot 878 00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:01,520 Speaker 1: of ways and sometimes just not always gonna be comfortable 879 00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:05,400 Speaker 1: when you are making a statement and pushing the boundary, 880 00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:09,600 Speaker 1: whether it's you know, Little nos X being you know, 881 00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:12,800 Speaker 1: the first gay rapper, or whether it's you know, n 882 00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:17,760 Speaker 1: w A saying fun the police. It's the boundaries that 883 00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:22,240 Speaker 1: are being pushed that, you know, makes hip hop what 884 00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:24,680 Speaker 1: it is and it makes hip hop special. So I 885 00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:28,680 Speaker 1: just think that when we have these conversations, it has 886 00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:32,240 Speaker 1: to be a broad conversation. It can't we can't single 887 00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:35,080 Speaker 1: out certain things. We got to bring it all to 888 00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:37,200 Speaker 1: the table, you know what I mean. And I've been 889 00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:40,040 Speaker 1: to I'm guilty of a gang of ship, you know, 890 00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:42,439 Speaker 1: I was saying about ecstasy and ship like that. I'm 891 00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:47,080 Speaker 1: sure there's kids to say because said it was. So 892 00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:51,200 Speaker 1: I'm not sitting here acting like I haven't played my part. 893 00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:53,800 Speaker 1: And you know, I always say that all the time. 894 00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:56,840 Speaker 1: I dropped out of high school because care Rest once said, 895 00:57:57,480 --> 00:57:59,880 Speaker 1: you know, I make about a gay a week fu school. 896 00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:01,920 Speaker 1: That was a real line to me. And I felt like, 897 00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:04,040 Speaker 1: if I could achieve a GI a week, I don't 898 00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:07,240 Speaker 1: need school. And as I started to make money selling drugs, 899 00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:09,520 Speaker 1: it was getting making the gym. We just didn't don't 900 00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:12,680 Speaker 1: need school. I tried out high school. You know, so 901 00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:19,680 Speaker 1: hip hop is very influential. You got kids that are 902 00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:23,800 Speaker 1: very impressionable, that listen to us, look up to us. 903 00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:29,880 Speaker 1: We're the heroes I know. You know Run DMC, you 904 00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:35,280 Speaker 1: know Mother Fucking Coogi Rap and Big Daddy Kane and these. 905 00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:40,680 Speaker 1: It was my het roes Man, heroes Man, Willie Dee's 906 00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:45,439 Speaker 1: car face. You know what I'm saying, was my heroes man. 907 00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:50,240 Speaker 1: And so I know how impressionable hip hop can be 908 00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:58,080 Speaker 1: on young minds. And and and you know, I can 909 00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:04,800 Speaker 1: never blame the artist for expressing their art. I never never. 910 00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:07,000 Speaker 1: You have the right to say and do what the 911 00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:11,200 Speaker 1: funk you want. Will there be consequences for something that 912 00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:13,760 Speaker 1: you say and do? Absolute fucking lukely, you know what 913 00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:15,520 Speaker 1: I'm saying. But you have the right to do it 914 00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:18,360 Speaker 1: and say it. You may have to pay for it 915 00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:22,560 Speaker 1: some way down the line, but but you have the right. 916 00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:26,880 Speaker 1: And that and that, and that is where I draw 917 00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:30,080 Speaker 1: my line when it comes to artistry and and and 918 00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:33,120 Speaker 1: morality and things of that nature. I think that we 919 00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:39,920 Speaker 1: can separate art from the man, and we should, under said, 920 00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:42,320 Speaker 1: and that way, the art gets to be the art 921 00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:45,480 Speaker 1: and the people get to be the people. But it's 922 00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:47,360 Speaker 1: very hard to do that now with social media. So 923 00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:53,720 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, to your point, I think that, yeah, 924 00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:58,040 Speaker 1: it is very important that you push those boundaries. I 925 00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:01,520 Speaker 1: think some of the best art that we've gotten was 926 01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:04,240 Speaker 1: because people pushed the boundaries. I mean, I don't want 927 01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:07,240 Speaker 1: to live in some plan dass world where all the 928 01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:11,200 Speaker 1: artists are just walking on eggshells and afraid to just 929 01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:14,880 Speaker 1: bust out and just get outside of the box. I 930 01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:17,880 Speaker 1: don't want to live in that type of world. But 931 01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:20,440 Speaker 1: I will say that's that's why you know, when I 932 01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:25,080 Speaker 1: hear certain artists say certain things, I give them grace 933 01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:27,919 Speaker 1: because I know that I was that artists at one point. 934 01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:30,640 Speaker 1: And I know that, and I also know that there's 935 01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:34,280 Speaker 1: a certain amount of latitude that has to be granted 936 01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:40,640 Speaker 1: when it comes to youth, you know, like I thought 937 01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:42,600 Speaker 1: that I knew some ship when I was younger, you know, 938 01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:45,080 Speaker 1: like I was saying some things on records and stuff, 939 01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:47,200 Speaker 1: and I thought, and people to this day to think 940 01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:51,240 Speaker 1: that I was like a profit or whatever. But as 941 01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:56,200 Speaker 1: I got older, you know, I started like realizing, like, man, 942 01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:59,440 Speaker 1: I I you know, it was so much more for 943 01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:02,400 Speaker 1: me to learn and that I just did not know. 944 01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:10,120 Speaker 1: And uh, I learned that that I do have a 945 01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:15,040 Speaker 1: responsibility as an artist. You know, I do have uh 946 01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:19,040 Speaker 1: you know, I do need to because my thing was 947 01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:22,120 Speaker 1: always like I, hey, man, I'm responsible for what I say, 948 01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:24,440 Speaker 1: not how you interpret it. You know, that was my thing, 949 01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:29,680 Speaker 1: Like and no, you know, I'm responsible for how it's 950 01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:33,360 Speaker 1: interpreted also, you know, because like you say, there are 951 01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:37,120 Speaker 1: we do have young impressionable minds out there. And no, 952 01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:42,520 Speaker 1: it's not our job to raise kids. It starts at home, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, 953 01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:47,440 Speaker 1: I agree that it starts with the parents first and foremost. 954 01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:50,520 Speaker 1: It starts at home, but it does take a village 955 01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:53,520 Speaker 1: to raise a child, and we have to look out 956 01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:56,720 Speaker 1: for each other, you know, we have to, you know, 957 01:01:56,840 --> 01:01:59,360 Speaker 1: we have to hold each other accountable, you know, like 958 01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:01,600 Speaker 1: you say, like, yeah, you could say whatever you want 959 01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:05,600 Speaker 1: to say, but you know, you the people that you 960 01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:08,600 Speaker 1: know wants to, you know, decide that we don't like 961 01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:10,600 Speaker 1: what you said. You can be brought to the table. 962 01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:15,720 Speaker 1: Gets to bring you to heare you know? So yeah, 963 01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:18,200 Speaker 1: I think we're on the same page. The man, you know. 964 01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:22,840 Speaker 1: I I know that some of the artists that are 965 01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:29,280 Speaker 1: being criticized right now for that message, they're gonna get 966 01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:32,680 Speaker 1: wiser with age. And it's like Maya Angelo said, when 967 01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:36,200 Speaker 1: you know better, you do better, right, And we know 968 01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:39,040 Speaker 1: better because this is some things that we said fifteen 969 01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:41,320 Speaker 1: years ago we're not gonna say today. You know, I 970 01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:48,200 Speaker 1: listened to the records now made them well. We just 971 01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:52,360 Speaker 1: said things that you just can't say now. And it 972 01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:56,280 Speaker 1: was like shouting it loud, and this is like wow, 973 01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:02,120 Speaker 1: work things change, people to change. The world changes, you know, 974 01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:09,680 Speaker 1: and and growth is important m hm, you know, for 975 01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:13,800 Speaker 1: for everybody and every walk of life, but especially in 976 01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:18,480 Speaker 1: music and entertainment. You know, we do become the old 977 01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:21,840 Speaker 1: jis and it's important that we do. You know, when 978 01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:25,000 Speaker 1: we can, you know, pull pull, pull a young one 979 01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:27,560 Speaker 1: to the side and let them know, Yo, this is 980 01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:30,040 Speaker 1: what it is. This is You know, I ain't trying 981 01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:32,120 Speaker 1: to school you, but I'm trying to school you. You 982 01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:37,560 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, like because it's it's it's that 983 01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:40,880 Speaker 1: old saying that old you know, each one teach one. 984 01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:45,760 Speaker 1: We've lost that way in our community and we need 985 01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:50,880 Speaker 1: to bring that back. Like like, anytime I get a chance, man, 986 01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:53,280 Speaker 1: I try to drop some knowledge on the young boys, 987 01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:55,960 Speaker 1: just let them know, like you're doing the right things, 988 01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:58,360 Speaker 1: but you know there's some things you could be doing 989 01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:01,160 Speaker 1: a little better. You know, Man, how do you feel 990 01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:07,080 Speaker 1: like being such a huge contributor to the hip hop 991 01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:11,960 Speaker 1: landscape that some youngsters don't know who John Rule is? 992 01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:17,320 Speaker 1: Like when you it's like, we know, it's like if 993 01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:20,200 Speaker 1: you know, you know right, But there are some youngsters 994 01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:23,600 Speaker 1: that like who like and Batman's and then versus happened. 995 01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:26,920 Speaker 1: It's like, oh not now you on everybody's radar. You know, 996 01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:31,880 Speaker 1: how do you feel about the youngsters who may be 997 01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:36,680 Speaker 1: just not getting tuned into who Jah Rule is? But 998 01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:40,160 Speaker 1: at the same time, some of these guys who I 999 01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:42,680 Speaker 1: know for a fact what I think, even saying that 1000 01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:46,120 Speaker 1: they were fans of jih Rule had to be influenced 1001 01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:48,320 Speaker 1: by you, because you know what kind of music that 1002 01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:53,240 Speaker 1: they're making. How do you feel about, you know, the 1003 01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:56,280 Speaker 1: youngsters who don't really know who you are, but there, 1004 01:04:56,960 --> 01:04:59,280 Speaker 1: I guess they're warming up now to you. I mean, 1005 01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:01,240 Speaker 1: it's cool. I love that, you know, I love that 1006 01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:05,439 Speaker 1: you know, you know we can transcend to the next 1007 01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:09,640 Speaker 1: generation that, you know, That's what I was, you know, talking, 1008 01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:12,560 Speaker 1: you know, joking with Crack. You know, he's he's saying like, 1009 01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:18,280 Speaker 1: yesterday's his not today's hits. I'm like, yesterday's it's It's 1010 01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:23,919 Speaker 1: not that's for sure, But you know, those those hits 1011 01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:25,800 Speaker 1: that are able to stand at at the time was 1012 01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:30,360 Speaker 1: classic that never to never go away. And for me, 1013 01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:33,840 Speaker 1: that's dope. You know, that's that's that's why we make that, 1014 01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:38,400 Speaker 1: That's why we make music. Like I'm so happy when 1015 01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:42,360 Speaker 1: I hear a twenty year old say they know my music. 1016 01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:46,880 Speaker 1: It's like some real it's crazy. I was just standing 1017 01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:51,280 Speaker 1: next to one, you know, and your music was playing 1018 01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:54,040 Speaker 1: and she was like jamming all of the words, and 1019 01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:56,320 Speaker 1: I was like, oh yeah, you was raised right, because 1020 01:05:56,360 --> 01:06:00,880 Speaker 1: that's good music. That's good music, man. And it's a 1021 01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:03,400 Speaker 1: beautiful thing. Man. It's a beautiful thing to be able 1022 01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:08,160 Speaker 1: to to to span over a decade or two. Yeah, 1023 01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:12,160 Speaker 1: and music can still resonate to, you know, a youth 1024 01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:15,000 Speaker 1: full audience. And ship. That ship is, That ship is, 1025 01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:17,400 Speaker 1: that's what that's that's why we do it, man. Like 1026 01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:20,400 Speaker 1: I still listen to all the old dope you know, 1027 01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:24,760 Speaker 1: readA Franklin and saying I listen to all that. My 1028 01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:29,080 Speaker 1: wife that's ship, all that she listen. She and KidSing, cooking, 1029 01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:31,280 Speaker 1: all that's playing. You know. So my kids grew up 1030 01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:35,360 Speaker 1: on that too, you know, Like that's what I'm supposed 1031 01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:37,120 Speaker 1: to do with my kids. You know, they in the twenties, 1032 01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:39,840 Speaker 1: they know all of that. You know, they know all 1033 01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:42,360 Speaker 1: of that old school music, all that good old stool music. 1034 01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:52,400 Speaker 1: They should you know you before versus he was kind 1035 01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:59,040 Speaker 1: of off the radar. Yeah, where you been? Man? You know, 1036 01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:02,560 Speaker 1: I see a little stuff happening here or there or whatever. 1037 01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:06,120 Speaker 1: But like the music, like, are you gonna do music again? 1038 01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:08,800 Speaker 1: Like put out some new stuff. You know, it's crazy. 1039 01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:13,320 Speaker 1: I love making music, I said, rum every day, create 1040 01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:19,040 Speaker 1: music all the time. The problem with me and putting 1041 01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:27,080 Speaker 1: out music. You want. I want people to receive my 1042 01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:35,240 Speaker 1: music because it's good music, or because it's bad music 1043 01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:38,960 Speaker 1: or whatever that is, you know what I'm saying, and 1044 01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:45,280 Speaker 1: not have outside I thought about why they don't want 1045 01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:48,800 Speaker 1: the music mm hmm. And I and I felt like 1046 01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:55,440 Speaker 1: for for a time, it just felt like if if 1047 01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:59,680 Speaker 1: I could have made fucking thriller and people would have 1048 01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:04,200 Speaker 1: would acting my deposit and and and for me, I'm like, 1049 01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:10,920 Speaker 1: I don't. I love music, It's my passion. It's very 1050 01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:13,320 Speaker 1: therapeutic for me. I get out a lot of ship 1051 01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:15,120 Speaker 1: out of it, a lot of rage, a lot of anger, 1052 01:08:15,160 --> 01:08:17,760 Speaker 1: a lot of you know, a lot of feelings. I 1053 01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:20,720 Speaker 1: make it to put it in my music. So I 1054 01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:23,760 Speaker 1: still make music. I'll do it for myself if I 1055 01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:26,200 Speaker 1: have to. Like I said, it's like therapy for me. 1056 01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:32,479 Speaker 1: So at my studio, I make my music. But I 1057 01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:36,479 Speaker 1: just I just felt like everything is about timing, and 1058 01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:39,680 Speaker 1: the right timing wasn't right for me to put out 1059 01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:44,759 Speaker 1: music right now after versus, I feel like the people 1060 01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:50,599 Speaker 1: are receiving me, And what's those calls like? Now, what's 1061 01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:54,320 Speaker 1: those business calls like? Now? After the versus Versus has 1062 01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:56,760 Speaker 1: a real effect. Man, That's what I'm gonna say. I 1063 01:08:56,800 --> 01:08:59,720 Speaker 1: want to say versus as a very real effect and 1064 01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:04,120 Speaker 1: for somebody like me and what I was going through personally, 1065 01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:09,640 Speaker 1: just with my with the fans. You know, you know, 1066 01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:12,680 Speaker 1: Drake says in one of his new record you know, 1067 01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:15,960 Speaker 1: you know people turning back on me for no good reason. 1068 01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:18,479 Speaker 1: I feel like ship. Every time I listen to that record, 1069 01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:21,280 Speaker 1: I feel like and I felt like, that's what I 1070 01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:28,320 Speaker 1: was going through. And that's why I really love doing 1071 01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:32,600 Speaker 1: that versus because I wasn't versed in Fatcho. I was 1072 01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:38,080 Speaker 1: versing the world. I it was John rul versus the world. 1073 01:09:38,120 --> 01:09:43,240 Speaker 1: I wanted everybody to remember understand who I am as 1074 01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:45,720 Speaker 1: an artist. I do this ship because I love it. 1075 01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:49,960 Speaker 1: And you can tell when I'm on that stage, you 1076 01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:51,920 Speaker 1: could tell I love it. I'm having a good time. 1077 01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:54,080 Speaker 1: I'm rocking the George's music. It's no smoke for me. 1078 01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:58,439 Speaker 1: I love it. I love this ship. But I'm also of, 1079 01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:02,200 Speaker 1: you know, one of the those guys. I'm MCMC like 1080 01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:05,200 Speaker 1: I rap rap, and I also know how to write 1081 01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:09,840 Speaker 1: songs and you know, produces this. You know, I'm an 1082 01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:12,560 Speaker 1: artist and I and and I shouldn't be allowed to 1083 01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:14,120 Speaker 1: be that. I should be allowed to be all of 1084 01:10:14,160 --> 01:10:17,479 Speaker 1: those things without being critiqued for this. And out of 1085 01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:21,120 Speaker 1: the third you know, you us just hip hop. We 1086 01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:23,519 Speaker 1: do this to our own Like we look at the 1087 01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:28,000 Speaker 1: artists that, you know, once they cross over out of 1088 01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:31,680 Speaker 1: you know, the hip hop charts and going to the 1089 01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:35,080 Speaker 1: rhythmic and and the pop charts, they crossed over, they're 1090 01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:39,719 Speaker 1: not hip hop anymore. We should embrace that these artists 1091 01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:43,600 Speaker 1: have figured out a way to crack the code and 1092 01:10:43,720 --> 01:10:47,960 Speaker 1: now they're it's bringing hip hop to a fucking plucthora 1093 01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:51,760 Speaker 1: people that we probably would have never reached. These artists 1094 01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:55,160 Speaker 1: should be celebrated, but instead we throw them, kick him 1095 01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:58,840 Speaker 1: to the side. They cross over, they're selling out. It's 1096 01:10:58,840 --> 01:11:04,040 Speaker 1: always been like that, going way back to you know, 1097 01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:09,360 Speaker 1: back in Motown days, it's been that. It's always, you know, 1098 01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:15,400 Speaker 1: been Once the music is out of the hood and 1099 01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:19,519 Speaker 1: then too the hearts of many, you ain't hood enough 1100 01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:25,160 Speaker 1: no more. That's that's just ridiculous. That's just oxy moon. 1101 01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:30,120 Speaker 1: I love my hood just as much as anybody. But 1102 01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:33,280 Speaker 1: I do love to make records for the world. I 1103 01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:37,600 Speaker 1: love that. I love doing that. I love doing that 1104 01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:39,920 Speaker 1: for me to make a record for the homies or 1105 01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:42,720 Speaker 1: whatever those records are. You know, we can do those. 1106 01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:48,280 Speaker 1: Those are easy records to make a record that the 1107 01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:54,320 Speaker 1: whole world can gravitate towards and and and and see 1108 01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:57,840 Speaker 1: the same vision that you saw when you created it. 1109 01:11:59,200 --> 01:12:02,479 Speaker 1: That's that's what we're do it for. That, That's that's 1110 01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:04,040 Speaker 1: what I thought I was doing it for. That's what 1111 01:12:04,439 --> 01:12:06,840 Speaker 1: you know, that's what I thought. You know, making music 1112 01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:10,160 Speaker 1: and being an entertainer was about touching the world. Music 1113 01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:12,240 Speaker 1: is the only at form you can't touch it touch 1114 01:12:12,280 --> 01:12:16,320 Speaker 1: as you and so you wanted to touch as many 1115 01:12:16,360 --> 01:12:21,080 Speaker 1: people as possible, you know. So that's how I see music. 1116 01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:24,519 Speaker 1: I see it through a very wide lens, and and 1117 01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:29,559 Speaker 1: sometimes I get critique for that, but I wouldn't want 1118 01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:32,840 Speaker 1: it any other way. Man. Yeah, have you ever thought 1119 01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:35,360 Speaker 1: about being a guy, damn professor out of college or something? 1120 01:12:36,360 --> 01:12:40,040 Speaker 1: Because I feel it. You know what I'm saying. You 1121 01:12:40,200 --> 01:12:42,439 Speaker 1: really do love it. I do hear the passion in 1122 01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:45,280 Speaker 1: your voice. You can fucking do this ship man, Like 1123 01:12:45,439 --> 01:12:51,200 Speaker 1: for me, really do love music. I studied music music theory. Yeah, 1124 01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:55,880 Speaker 1: you know the cadences, you know, the oasis is, you know, 1125 01:12:57,800 --> 01:13:03,040 Speaker 1: the vibrations and you know your voice patented that you 1126 01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:07,400 Speaker 1: can can have people feel a certain way. All of 1127 01:13:07,439 --> 01:13:11,320 Speaker 1: these things matter, you know, like you know, making slower 1128 01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:14,040 Speaker 1: records in the wintertime and faster records in the summertime, 1129 01:13:14,120 --> 01:13:18,559 Speaker 1: because that's what people just naturally want to feel. They 1130 01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:22,880 Speaker 1: don't even know they wanted that way. These are these 1131 01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:25,320 Speaker 1: are these are things that you know, see, man, you 1132 01:13:25,439 --> 01:13:28,800 Speaker 1: teaching me stuff. Man, I ain't never thought I thought 1133 01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:31,400 Speaker 1: about the summer days. They ain't ever think like slow 1134 01:13:31,479 --> 01:13:34,120 Speaker 1: it down in the winter and speed it up into something. 1135 01:13:34,200 --> 01:13:37,840 Speaker 1: This is what people were. Yeah, you know, they don't 1136 01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:44,439 Speaker 1: know they wanted. It's subconscious. You're a rap bilogist. Yeah, 1137 01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:49,880 Speaker 1: it's beautiful, man, this this has been a beautiful, amazing conversation. 1138 01:13:50,640 --> 01:13:54,960 Speaker 1: I I absolutely appreciate you. Man. I remember first when 1139 01:13:55,000 --> 01:14:00,760 Speaker 1: I first heard you, I was like, am I want 1140 01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:03,720 Speaker 1: to do something like that? Had it in pocket? Man? 1141 01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:05,800 Speaker 1: You I mean you killed it, man, like you really 1142 01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:09,680 Speaker 1: you really killed it. And and that versus bringing it 1143 01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:17,760 Speaker 1: back shout out to Swiss until that versus reminded everybody 1144 01:14:18,439 --> 01:14:24,479 Speaker 1: of how relevant and how necessary JI rule is. Not 1145 01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:30,400 Speaker 1: was appreciate that man, you know, for everything that you've 1146 01:14:30,439 --> 01:14:33,880 Speaker 1: done for hip hop for carving, your laying out and 1147 01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:37,439 Speaker 1: inspiring so many others. Man. Hey, and also you know, 1148 01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:43,240 Speaker 1: being responsible for some babies. You know. Hey, We thank you, man, 1149 01:14:43,400 --> 01:14:45,800 Speaker 1: We thank you, we salute you, we appreciate you, we 1150 01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:48,720 Speaker 1: love you. Thanks for having me, Ladies and gentlemen. J 1151 01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:55,080 Speaker 1: RU much love, baby, and won't Talk. 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