Speaker 1: Welcome back everybody to Bachelor Happy Hour's Golden Hour. Thanks
Speaker 1: so much for coming back and joining us, and we
Speaker 1: are so excited about today's episode.
Speaker 2: Kathy, we certainly are. Just be sure to check out
Speaker 2: our latest episode. We have been having so much fun
Speaker 2: answering your questions, disagreeing with each other, chatting with all
Speaker 2: your Bachelor.
Speaker 1: Nation face and today I'm so excited we have two
Speaker 1: very special guests. Please welcome from this season of Paradise
Speaker 1: New love birds, Allie Joe and Sam m if you will. Hi, guys,
Speaker 1: welcome to that Golden Hour.
Speaker 3: What's up? Thanks for having us guys?
Speaker 2: How great are you? Okay, So we have so much
Speaker 2: that we want to dive into today, so we're just
Speaker 2: going to get things started right away. But I have
Speaker 2: to say you make the most fabulous looking couple. I
Speaker 2: just have to say that.
Speaker 1: Right, That's something Kathy and I agree on.
Speaker 3: Yes, pretty one. She's a pretty one.
Speaker 2: You're pretty pretty yourself. Sam. We're gonna give.
Speaker 4: You some credit.
Speaker 1: There's something I learned that Kathy and I both also.
Speaker 1: Did we all have our motorcycle license? Yeah? I just
Speaker 1: sold my bike like three years ago.
Speaker 3: Wow?
Speaker 2: All right, but before before we talk about motorcycle because
Speaker 2: you know, been there and done that. We have the
Speaker 2: biggest question that everyone wants to know. How did you
Speaker 2: two start dating?
Speaker 5: Okay, I'll go first, Okay because I'm older, Older people
Speaker 5: go first, ladies versa. So I reached out to him
Speaker 5: a couple of months ago during Grand Season, like the
Speaker 5: show was just on. I was teaching a rumble class
Speaker 5: and one of my clients had said something to mean
Speaker 5: a lotty before class at her son knew his sister
Speaker 5: and it was like a mutual person. That person was
Speaker 5: also from Jersey, so Jersey thing in common, and I
Speaker 5: had messaged him and then I was like, I just
Speaker 5: actually got compared to you on the show. It was
Speaker 5: like right after the episode, after the basketball date. So
Speaker 5: we started chatting a little bit. And then a couple
Speaker 5: of months later, I posted a photo and he DMS
Speaker 5: me and we started talking about paradise and we both
Speaker 5: like didn't know if we were going or not. And
Speaker 5: then he answered me and I stopped answering his messages.
Speaker 2: And wait minute, I saw you stop answering his messages.
Speaker 4: Yes I can.
Speaker 5: I ask why because we were like talking about paradise
Speaker 5: and we both didn't know if we were going, but I
Speaker 5: think we were both like hopeful, but he wasn't sure
Speaker 5: if he wanted to. And I was like, if I'm
Speaker 5: sitting at the time, I would want to go. But
Speaker 5: I knew if I went and he went, like he
Speaker 5: was somebody I wanted to meet. So I didn't want
Speaker 5: to keep the conversation going and asking questions because if
Speaker 5: he was going to be on the beach, I wanted
Speaker 5: it to happen organically. I didn't want to know all
Speaker 5: these things about him if he was going to go,
Speaker 5: Like we both really didn't.
Speaker 1: Know, Joe. When you did get to Paradise, how did
Speaker 1: you feel knowing that Sam had just gone home?
Speaker 4: I was really really disappointed.
Speaker 5: But that's so I kept saying he was the only
Speaker 5: person I really wanted to meet, and like, waiting to
Speaker 5: go in, I knew I was coming in late with
Speaker 5: a date card, like I was so confident, and I
Speaker 5: was like, this is my opportunity, Like I've never had
Speaker 5: a date on Grant season. People only saw like a
Speaker 5: side of me, and I really really wanted to meet him,
Speaker 5: and so I thought it was gonna be the perfect opportunity.
Speaker 5: So to find out he had just went home, and
Speaker 5: that was like, I was really shocked.
Speaker 4: I was surprised. I was super disappointed.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So let me just say when I rolled into
Speaker 2: Paradise and found out that both of you had gone home,
Speaker 2: you know, truly, I was really disappointed because I wanted
Speaker 2: to meet both of you in person. But I want
Speaker 2: to know what were your experiences like each of you.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think they were kind of similar. I think
Speaker 6: I was told that I was walking down with a date.
Speaker 3: Card.
Speaker 6: I was extremely excited to take her out. She was
Speaker 6: the only person that I had planned on taking, and
Speaker 6: even in my interviews leading up to it, it was
Speaker 6: the only She was the only name that I dropped.
Speaker 2: And I mean, come on, sim you could have said
Speaker 2: or maybe Kathy A Gold that I by kicking.
Speaker 3: Listen, if you were there and she was, I would
Speaker 3: have taken you. That's how I would have gone.
Speaker 2: Anything you want, Sam, You're my man, all right, you boyd? Sorry?
Speaker 6: No, So it was it was kind of the same thing.
Speaker 6: They told me that I was gonna go down late,
Speaker 6: go down with the date card. I was really looking
Speaker 6: forward to meeting her, taking her, and then I got
Speaker 6: there and I kind of looked around and saw that
Speaker 6: she wasn't there, And it was just really disheartening, I think,
Speaker 6: because then I'm asking myself, like, what the hell am
Speaker 6: I doing here right now?
Speaker 3: You know? And no offense to any of the girls there.
Speaker 6: I thought they were all sweet, but I kind of
Speaker 6: knew what I was looking for going in there, and
Speaker 6: it wasn't there whenever I got there. So now I'm
Speaker 6: like asking myself, you know, am I am I wasting time?
Speaker 6: Or I've come this far? Do we just try it
Speaker 6: out and see how it all goes, even though we
Speaker 6: probably know the way that it's going to happen. So
Speaker 6: I think both of us kind of had the same story. Yeah,
Speaker 6: So it was a I think a little disheartening maybe
Speaker 6: in the moment not not getting it or not it
Speaker 6: not happening on TV, But but we.
Speaker 3: Knew we were going to make stuff happen. We didn't
Speaker 3: need TV.
Speaker 6: I didn't need TV to, you know, to book a
Speaker 6: plane ticket and go see.
Speaker 2: Basically, Costa Rica is in your rear view mirror.
Speaker 6: Once I found out she wasn't there and I was
Speaker 6: going home, I'm like, all.
Speaker 5: Right, well, we don't like to say that we met
Speaker 5: on TV because we didn't technically.
Speaker 1: Who called who first after the show.
Speaker 5: I did, because he was already home. He didn't know
Speaker 5: if I was there, like, he had no clue. So
Speaker 5: I had gotten back and I got on my phone
Speaker 5: and I messaged him and I said, hey, I heard
Speaker 5: you were here just a couple of hours ago.
Speaker 4: And I was like really disappointed.
Speaker 5: I'm really upset, and he goes, chin up, here's my number,
Speaker 5: give me a call. And I called him before I
Speaker 5: got on the flight, and then ever since then, Oh.
Speaker 2: God, so wait a minute, I want to know a
Speaker 2: when was your first date and what's digging been like
Speaker 2: so far? Like some of your best moments you've had.
Speaker 4: We've had a lot, and.
Speaker 3: We had a lot. I think it's scary. I think
Speaker 3: a lot of it.
Speaker 6: One of my favorite moments was facetiming her for the
Speaker 6: first time, and it was with her and her mom actually,
Speaker 6: and this was fresh off of Paradise. I don't know
Speaker 6: if we'd ever even spoke on the phone outside of.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was like Mother's Day weekend because after Paradise,
Speaker 5: I was I was really like not in a great headspace.
Speaker 4: I was actually like just depressed over everything.
Speaker 5: And I flew right to Jersey after Paradise and then
Speaker 5: I facetimed him with my mom. We were going to
Speaker 5: dinner and yeah, that was when we first started talking. Yeah,
Speaker 5: but the first time he came to Florida was early June. Yeah,
Speaker 5: so we were talking on the phone but facetiming for
Speaker 5: about a month or so before he made his flight
Speaker 5: to Florida.
Speaker 1: I love this, I love it.
Speaker 2: I love it. Is there anybody just literally smiling?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 1: Is there anybody from the season that you guys would
Speaker 1: want to double date with? Do you have any favorite couple?
Speaker 1: If you will, I don't know.
Speaker 4: What would you say?
Speaker 5: I don't know, because I'm watching the couples play out
Speaker 5: right now. I'm like, there's so much drama.
Speaker 1: We don't want the problem.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. True.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think everybody's just so different than And one
Speaker 6: thing that really attracted me to her was just what
Speaker 6: real life it really is.
Speaker 3: You know, the show is awesome.
Speaker 6: And it but it only makes up just a certain
Speaker 6: percentage of our lives and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: And I think being able.
Speaker 6: To separate yourself from TV and reality and make sure
Speaker 6: that reality is still at the top of your priority
Speaker 6: list and not get caught up in any of this
Speaker 6: other stuff was something that you know why I was
Speaker 6: drawn to her as much as I have been, so.
Speaker 3: I think looking back at the show now, I.
Speaker 2: Mean, I just want to say. I just want to
Speaker 2: say again, Kathy is in Bachelor Nation and available for
Speaker 2: double date. All you require is that you find me
Speaker 2: the person that's going on the date with me.
Speaker 1: It's pretty simple.
Speaker 5: Well, going to double date with you guys, and you're men.
Speaker 5: But Katy, I remember I was talking to you and
Speaker 5: I told you about him.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, in fact, in fact, we're to know. So
Speaker 2: that's exactly where I was going. You read my mind.
Speaker 2: I was going to ask you, did you tell you
Speaker 2: anyone in Bachelor Nation that you were dating? For you
Speaker 2: in public? And then I was going to say, besides me,
Speaker 2: because you actually did tell me and Alie Joe, I
Speaker 2: didn't tell anyone.
Speaker 1: I can't tell anybody.
Speaker 2: I didn't tell Susan. I didn't tell anyone because it
Speaker 2: wasn't mine to tell. But I was so happy for you.
Speaker 2: Did you tell anyone else?
Speaker 5: Yeah, Juliana, I told We talked about it like we
Speaker 5: were facetimed her.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, you told me that. Yeah, And so
Speaker 2: that's it. Boy, I mean a really small league club here.
Speaker 2: I feel on wait Kathy going.
Speaker 1: When we had Ellie Joe on the podcast, I specifically
Speaker 1: asked her if perhaps you were asked to go on Paradise,
Speaker 1: is there anyone in particular that you would hope to
Speaker 1: be there and you were that wouldn't.
Speaker 5: Say anything because I didn't want to like put my
Speaker 5: like eggs and basket or.
Speaker 2: That's what you said. That's what you said. You didn't
Speaker 2: want to and you wanted to. You said you had
Speaker 2: people in mind, by someone in mind, but you did
Speaker 2: want to say who it was.
Speaker 4: And I didn't either, because look what happened.
Speaker 5: I got there and he wasn't there, and I me
Speaker 5: and him talk about it, and I said it the
Speaker 5: other day like I was still there. I still wanted
Speaker 5: to make the most of my time. You know, you'd
Speaker 5: put your life on pause. And I really felt like confident.
Speaker 5: Well I felt confident before when I thought he was there,
Speaker 5: but afterwards, I still wanted to get to know people
Speaker 5: were still there. We're on this amazing opportunity and you
Speaker 5: don't know what can transpire from it. So I was
Speaker 5: going to like shoot myself in the foot. Yes, did
Speaker 5: I want to be with him, of course. I mean listen,
Speaker 5: I was only on beach for like thirty hours, thirty
Speaker 5: six hours at that but it still had like a.
Speaker 4: Nice time there.
Speaker 5: But again, I didn't want to go my EGS one
Speaker 5: basket because you just don't know I could.
Speaker 2: Have gotten there. So wait, I want to get back
Speaker 2: to the So when you went public, what was that like?
Speaker 2: Like posting didn't feel natural to go out, you know
Speaker 2: because everything that happens on social media, you know, no
Speaker 2: one reads. It's just a few people or ten million
Speaker 2: one or the other.
Speaker 6: We kind of knew what we were getting into and
Speaker 6: that's why I kind of teased everybody when she posted
Speaker 6: that or I posted that photo and she's holding a
Speaker 6: drink and I'm in the background, like we you know,
Speaker 6: we knew what we were doing.
Speaker 2: But did you love it that? People said, oh wait,
Speaker 2: it's the same hand it was.
Speaker 6: It was really funny. It's like, oh, the fingernails are yeah.
Speaker 4: Red nails.
Speaker 5: And then we saw each other again after that came
Speaker 5: out and I got my nails and again, and I
Speaker 5: was like, I'm doing a different color.
Speaker 4: Let's see if people pick up.
Speaker 3: Things. It gave me something to kind of like smile
Speaker 3: at and uh, it's funny. Yeah, it was. It was
Speaker 3: definitely funny.
Speaker 6: We never hid ourselves from anybody, even whenever I would
Speaker 6: go see her, we walked around. We were how do
Speaker 6: people come up to you? Yeah, they would, and we
Speaker 6: would talk to anybody. If somebody wanted to take a
Speaker 6: photo with us, I would just say, hey, you can
Speaker 6: take one with her, but we just can't be in
Speaker 6: the same photo yet together. So we really didn't really
Speaker 6: want an instance where somebody. I thought somebody was taking
Speaker 6: a photo of both of us and I was like, hey,
Speaker 6: you can't post that. He's like, actually, I'm on FaceTime
Speaker 6: with my sister or something like that. So so yeah,
Speaker 6: we kind of knew what we were doing.
Speaker 1: But we were trying to be careful.
Speaker 3: You know, we are with this is real life.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we want to live our life like we're not
Speaker 4: on this anymore.
Speaker 2: So I watch what. We want to know what's going
Speaker 2: on in your life? What what have you guys been
Speaker 2: up to? We tell us what your life is like now.
Speaker 4: Well, we both met each other's families.
Speaker 5: We both had like super big weekends like my mom,
Speaker 5: my stepdad, my sister, my aunts, my uncles, and my
Speaker 5: cousins like they were on Florida for my episode.
Speaker 4: He flew in that weekend. He took a rumble.
Speaker 5: Class, the rumble class, and I met his entire family.
Speaker 5: I watched some coach a baseball tournament. I met, Yeah,
Speaker 5: his nieces, niece, nephew.
Speaker 1: And how about where we're living? Where are you now? Sam?
Speaker 3: I'm still in.
Speaker 1: You are in Myrtle Beach Okay, yes, ma'am.
Speaker 3: And she's still in.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So you know the question. I'm asking it always
Speaker 2: because I'm the batslor. Is anyone moving? I don't know.
Speaker 2: Let's just pick two places, just pick them out of
Speaker 2: bat anyone talking about moving to Myrtle Beach or maybe Florida?
Speaker 5: Yeah, we talked about it on our six hour car
Speaker 5: drive home from Atlanta.
Speaker 1: Yes, long distance relationships, and that's not even really that
Speaker 1: long of a distance. Trust me. I have a long distance,
Speaker 1: as you know, and that is long. But this isn't
Speaker 1: This is doable until.
Speaker 6: I think it's it's tough, like knowing that she's leaving
Speaker 6: today is it doesn't feel great. But what it does
Speaker 6: is that any time that's spent with each other is
Speaker 6: just so intentional. There's no for a dull moment. There's
Speaker 6: never a complacent moment. It's really just absorbing every single
Speaker 6: second of time. And also too, it tests your levels
Speaker 6: of communication because you still want to show intention and
Speaker 6: show like desire and you know, pursuit of what you
Speaker 6: still want in kind of an unorthodox fashion.
Speaker 3: So for right now, we're making that work.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we see each other like every other weekend. It's
Speaker 4: been great.
Speaker 2: Do you do you have your next visit?
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 2: Some of the interviewed, I think it was Ben Higgins,
Speaker 2: said that when he was dating way back in the
Speaker 2: Dark Ages, he they never left without having their next
Speaker 2: date planned. You are you guys doing that?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, we were.
Speaker 6: It's funny we were. I was literally just looking at
Speaker 6: flights like twenty minutes ago. Yeah, we stay on top
Speaker 6: of that. You want something to look forward to. I
Speaker 6: think you know, it's kind of a running clock and
Speaker 6: your tank gets gets to E and right now it's full.
Speaker 4: Chaldging.
Speaker 5: But listen, like all of his friends and good friends
Speaker 5: are like in relationships, married, have kids. All my really
Speaker 5: good friends are in relationships too, So we're also at
Speaker 5: that point, like I mean, at least me and to like,
Speaker 5: we don't want to go out and just like go out,
Speaker 5: just to go out.
Speaker 4: You know, how old are you?
Speaker 2: Guys? Again, you're older? Ally Joe, Right, how old are you?
Speaker 4: I'm thirty one, I'm twenty eight.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't care. You know what I like?
Speaker 3: I like the older women. I like the older women.
Speaker 2: Wait a second, Wait a minute, Sam, I am the Kathy.
Speaker 3: She better be good to me if she's not.
Speaker 2: Good to me, Joe, Ali, Joe, I'm tag teaming. I'm watching.
Speaker 2: I say, you know you've been I'm hiding. All right,
Speaker 2: listen to you, guys. We're gonna move into our advice
Speaker 2: portion of the episode. We're going to kick things off
Speaker 2: with our question of the day, and we want your
Speaker 2: thoughts on it. Are you? Are you game? All right?
Speaker 2: Here we go a lot of our listeners right in
Speaker 2: about first dates turning in to second dates. What are
Speaker 2: some signs that indicate the other person isn't interested that
Speaker 2: most people miss?
Speaker 4: Well, you're guys, let's see what you say.
Speaker 6: Okay, I would say, checking your phone often during the
Speaker 6: first date.
Speaker 2: Who that's a good one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say, not giving a firm answer as
Speaker 1: to when the second date would be. I'll let you know,
Speaker 1: kind of thing.
Speaker 2: What about you, Ali, Joe, what do you think?
Speaker 5: Yeah, like what if they were on a first date
Speaker 5: to see if it's a second date would happen?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Well so yeah, and they're saying, like listeners say to us,
Speaker 2: you know, we had we thought I thought it was
Speaker 2: a great first date, but it never turns into a
Speaker 2: second date. And what are some signs that you would
Speaker 2: say that indicate the person that you're the first day
Speaker 2: with isn't interested.
Speaker 5: That he doesn't you know, make sure you got home, okay,
Speaker 5: call you the next day. How are you feel like
Speaker 5: it doesn't need to be a whole big thing, like
Speaker 5: we always say, like we don't want to text every day,
Speaker 5: but like at least he should call her and say.
Speaker 4: Hey, you know, I love seeing you last night. What's
Speaker 4: your week? Like, let's get another date on the schedule
Speaker 4: on calendar.
Speaker 1: We're all busy.
Speaker 2: How about this one? If he lets you pay for
Speaker 2: the date the first day and the.
Speaker 1: First date, you now it wasn't going to be a second.
Speaker 2: Doesn't walk into your car. I mean there's you know,
Speaker 2: it's you want.
Speaker 5: To know if he does actually that I love and
Speaker 5: these are things I look for, Like I feel like
Speaker 5: I'm more like old school, Like every single time we
Speaker 5: get in the car, he opened my car door for me.
Speaker 5: That is something that's so important to me and I
Speaker 5: always look for that. And I've been on dates where
Speaker 5: guys don't do that.
Speaker 2: So I have a question that that My question of
Speaker 2: the day is. I mean, Susan and I have been
Speaker 2: around the earth a few you know, a few times
Speaker 2: around the sun. Whatever the expression is, and what is it?
Speaker 2: Do you think women don't care if guys don't have
Speaker 2: good manners, Because every time we interview someone, right, Susan,
Speaker 2: they'll say, I'm old fashioned. Exactly what you said, Ali, Joe,
Speaker 2: I'm old fashioned the door for me? What's the deal?
Speaker 2: Do guys not care? Maybe better asking for you, Sam,
Speaker 2: what what is the deal?
Speaker 3: But I just think it comes back to probably the
Speaker 3: way that you were raised. You know.
Speaker 1: I taught that right, absolutely taught respect your women and
Speaker 1: your elder.
Speaker 6: I've got two sisters. My parents are still married, they've
Speaker 6: been married for thirty plus years. And I think from
Speaker 6: the South, everybody is extremely kind. But I tell her
Speaker 6: all the time, I didn't open up her door one time,
Speaker 6: and it was actually the very first time.
Speaker 3: That I met her in the airport I was driving.
Speaker 6: And she was driving, and I didn't because some people
Speaker 6: think it's weird. And I was like, I don't want
Speaker 6: to come across in a certain in a certain way.
Speaker 6: And then the next time I was like, you know,
Speaker 6: I forget it. I'm going to do it, and I'm
Speaker 6: going to explain to her, like if my mom was
Speaker 6: here and she watched me not open up this door.
Speaker 1: Or if it's pouring raining and you're running to the car, then.
Speaker 3: I did.
Speaker 6: Exactly exactly. So yeah, I just think it's the way
Speaker 6: that you're raised. I think a lot of guys don't
Speaker 6: know any better, and I think from the female side
Speaker 6: of it, the whole chivalry is dead.
Speaker 3: Comments it can we.
Speaker 2: Just go on record here for anyone listening, chivalry is
Speaker 2: not dead. Open the door for your lady.
Speaker 6: Door, Open the door for your lady, and any other
Speaker 6: lady's getting into the car, open up their door every
Speaker 6: single time.
Speaker 1: How about sorry, when you're walking down the street and
Speaker 1: you have her, you're holding hands, do you always stand
Speaker 1: on the outside where the streets is that? I always
Speaker 1: thought it was an Italian thing.
Speaker 2: But I guess do you I know the answer to this.
Speaker 2: Do you mean at least is what I was told.
Speaker 2: We could look it up. You know, why do you
Speaker 2: know why women are supposed to walk on the inside
Speaker 2: be safe?
Speaker 3: Yeah, no it's not.
Speaker 2: Now again you know writers, here's writing and let me
Speaker 2: know if I'm wrong. I've been told by more than
Speaker 2: one person it dates way back to uh when people
Speaker 2: used to take bedpants and slop and throw it out
Speaker 2: the window, and so was to protect the woman being
Speaker 2: inside if anyone got hit, it was going to be
Speaker 2: the guy. Now, I don't know if that's true or not,
Speaker 2: but I thought it was. I thought it was kind
Speaker 2: of a cute story that, you know.
Speaker 1: The guy that's safety right, So it's car.
Speaker 2: You know, health and safety. Whatever. Wait nights before we
Speaker 2: get into the next things. Your first date was where?
Speaker 2: What was your first date? Yeah?
Speaker 5: We we went to the beach, We went to a
Speaker 5: happy hour, we went to dinner, and then we met
Speaker 5: my friends out for the Panthers game.
Speaker 4: And then what was a week long date? Weekends long?
Speaker 5: And then Saturday we woke up, we went for a walk,
Speaker 5: we got coffee, and I had like little pregame.
Speaker 4: It was my best friend's thirtieth birthday.
Speaker 3: Are we going to skip out on what you said
Speaker 3: whenever I first got.
Speaker 2: There, Oh no, we're not stepping out because we're both
Speaker 2: straight bar eyes.
Speaker 4: I was like, I got nothing, Like, I don't think
Speaker 4: I'm your type.
Speaker 1: Really, why did you say that?
Speaker 2: You said that you didn't think he was his type.
Speaker 4: I didn't think that I was his type.
Speaker 2: When would you say that?
Speaker 5: Damn when, like, within like the first two hours hanging out.
Speaker 1: Why did that come on like that?
Speaker 5: Because he's, like, you know, from South Carolina. It's a
Speaker 5: little slower pace here, mostly blonde girls like our girls
Speaker 5: and sweet people.
Speaker 4: Not that I'm not sweet, but just girls.
Speaker 5: I feel like, and I don't want this sound wrong way,
Speaker 5: but like maybe that don't have like a voice as much.
Speaker 4: And you know, I mean you mean.
Speaker 2: Alie Joe, you don't say bless your little heart.
Speaker 4: Exactly.
Speaker 1: So I learned what that meant.
Speaker 2: I don't know if say a li I'm from Massachusetts,
Speaker 2: so I live in Texas, where I was like, bless
Speaker 2: your little heart? What?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 3: Yeah? But see I'm being from so I don't want that.
Speaker 6: Like I'm pretty good eighty percent, maybe ninety percent of
Speaker 6: the time, but you know, if I ever kind of
Speaker 6: wander off, like I need somebody that can put me
Speaker 6: back in my place.
Speaker 1: That's right, She's not going to let you skip along.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, she's not that. That's that jersey girl in her. Okay, Well,
Speaker 2: I have another question before we move on to our
Speaker 2: next part. Sam, both of you, of course honesty here.
Speaker 2: When you met each other for the first time, you
Speaker 2: looked at each other's eyes, did you know.
Speaker 6: What?
Speaker 2: Did you know?
Speaker 1: Was it a feeling? Was it a for me? Yeah?
Speaker 4: I was just so excited.
Speaker 5: I was like, this is either going to be something
Speaker 5: that's amazing or it's going to be like a one
Speaker 5: time thing. But the way we connected, I just I
Speaker 5: was really excited.
Speaker 1: I just knew.
Speaker 3: I knew before I met her.
Speaker 1: How did you know?
Speaker 6: Back up I say whenever I say, I knew before
Speaker 6: I met her, I knew what type of personality she had,
Speaker 6: and I knew that her and I would get along
Speaker 6: very well.
Speaker 1: What was it about her that you like?
Speaker 3: That?
Speaker 1: What attracted you?
Speaker 3: I think just very unapologetically herself.
Speaker 2: And outspoken, says what she thinks. Yes, she means and
Speaker 2: means what she says.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well sure, but she's also like very in touch
Speaker 6: with her feminine side. And I actually really love that like,
Speaker 6: I love somebody that doesn't feel like like she knows
Speaker 6: that she doesn't have to wear the pants and anything,
Speaker 6: she doesn't need to be the one to make all
Speaker 6: the plans. She's a girly girl and I love that.
Speaker 6: But she's also very strong and very independent and she
Speaker 6: will say things. She'll say what she wants and that's
Speaker 6: what I need.
Speaker 1: But that's a perfect relationship when you're able to speak
Speaker 1: whatever it is on your mind and be comfortable saying
Speaker 1: it to your significant.
Speaker 2: All this up with the big bow of they're both
Speaker 2: you are easy on the is, Sam and Ali Joe,
Speaker 2: you are absolutely stunningly gorgeous. So I mean to get
Speaker 2: all this in two packages. I don't know me hope
Speaker 2: for the future.
Speaker 5: I feel so lucky because usually, you know, if this
Speaker 5: sounds horrible to say, but like sometimes there were people
Speaker 5: who are really good looking have like a horrible personality
Speaker 5: or like sometimes you know, but like he doesn't, and
Speaker 5: I think we're both just like very genuine. And I
Speaker 5: think people think he's a certain type of way just
Speaker 5: from a show that they watched, you know, but I
Speaker 5: know who he truly is, and I think his colors
Speaker 5: show and yeah, kind of.
Speaker 1: When your mom met him on the FaceTime, she was happy, right.
Speaker 5: She's like, oh my god, he's so cute, Like, what
Speaker 5: are you going to be her? I was like, I
Speaker 5: don't know, Mom, you're embarrassing me.
Speaker 1: And how about you, Sam, when your family met?
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, So my sister is a pretty harsh critic
Speaker 6: and any girl that I ever dated, she's always like, Sam,
Speaker 6: you could do better, you could do better. And then
Speaker 6: I showed her a picture of Ali Joe and she's like, yeah,
Speaker 6: I think that's your ceiling.
Speaker 3: Sam. I'm like, yeah, yeah, they saw her and just
Speaker 3: kind of the same thing.
Speaker 6: Just just said like it looks like she has her
Speaker 6: her shit together.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: She's just very like, very independent, just very well spoken,
Speaker 3: put together and just thought that we'd make a perfect.
Speaker 1: And I know you're also an efficient like I am.
Speaker 1: So when that day comes, you know, you can call me,
Speaker 1: let's go and Kathy comes. Whatever I do one, I
Speaker 1: love it.
Speaker 2: I'll come and throw rose pedals and say I almost
Speaker 2: had him.
Speaker 1: All right. Today, now we're going to answer some of
Speaker 1: our viewers or our listeners questions and they like to
Speaker 1: know what we think our advice. If you will, you
Speaker 1: guys game to give some advice.
Speaker 3: Let's do it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, all right. The first one reads, Hi, guys,
Speaker 1: I need to know if I'm in the wrong here.
Speaker 1: The other night, I went on a hinge date with
Speaker 1: a guy. Our plan was to pick up ingredients together
Speaker 1: and cook since we both love cooking. Amazing right, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought so too. We were in the car heading
Speaker 1: back to his place with groceries when he looked at
Speaker 1: me and said, so funny story. I have a four
Speaker 1: year old daughter. Hello, I'm twenty four. I can't be
Speaker 1: a mom. I have so much respect for single parents,
Speaker 1: and I have nothing against being a step parent later
Speaker 1: down the line, but not when I'm a baby myself.
Speaker 1: I was polite during the rest of the date, knowing
Speaker 1: i'd never see him again. Now my friends are split.
Speaker 1: Some think I made the right choice, while others think
Speaker 1: I blow off a great guy too soon. It was
Speaker 1: a great date and I really do like him. I
Speaker 1: don't know. What do you think? Thanks, ladies?
Speaker 2: What says you? What do you think? Guys?
Speaker 5: I think that if she, at the end of the
Speaker 5: day isn't ready to be a step mom, then that
Speaker 5: says a lot, no matter how much she likes But
Speaker 5: I because you're not just dating the guy, you are
Speaker 5: also essentially dating his family, like you know, so you
Speaker 5: can't persuade yourself that you can do something of deep
Speaker 5: down you know you can do it. So I would
Speaker 5: take it as that's a great friend. Maybe down the
Speaker 5: line if she gets older and she decides like she's
Speaker 5: ready for that, But if she's not ready for it now,
Speaker 5: then she she's not ready, and that's okay.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it's I think it's a little maybe
Speaker 6: selfish to think that it would. It's so easy to
Speaker 6: find true love later on down the road. And we
Speaker 6: talked about this, you know, I think at twenty four,
Speaker 6: you know, five years, five years can go by just
Speaker 6: like that. And I've learned that the love that you
Speaker 6: want is not just you can't just open up your
Speaker 6: door and it's right there in front of you.
Speaker 2: So if you that's what I've been doing wrong. I
Speaker 2: sit my door waiting for her to open.
Speaker 1: You got to get on the outside of the door.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Sam.
Speaker 1: You know, when when I was reading it her, as
Speaker 1: soon as he said he had a daughter, she already
Speaker 1: tuned amount she didn't give it a chance, and later
Speaker 1: she really did like him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm just going to play because I always
Speaker 2: like to devil's advocate my stepmom and I know, Ali Joe,
Speaker 2: you have a stepdad. My dad married my stepmother when
Speaker 2: I was six and my stepmom was thirty two, and
Speaker 2: she took on five children from the ages of six
Speaker 2: to thirteen and had one of her own, so six
Speaker 2: kids at the age of thirty two. But she loved
Speaker 2: my dad so much, you would they were married over
Speaker 2: forty years before he died. I don't think she would
Speaker 2: have done it end definitely because she loved him. But
Speaker 2: I think people thought she was nuts when she married
Speaker 2: my dad, and she would be the first to say
Speaker 2: to you that it was really tough. So at twenty four,
Speaker 2: if she says I can't be a mom, that I'm
Speaker 2: with you, Ali Joe. It's saying that she does doesn't
Speaker 2: want to do it. And if you don't want to
Speaker 2: do it, that child comes along with this fabulous guy
Speaker 2: and it's a package deal, right. So if she does
Speaker 2: can't be a mom for whatever reason, I think she
Speaker 2: has to move along.
Speaker 1: I don't have been true to herself. But she says
Speaker 1: it's a great date. I really do like them. I
Speaker 1: don't know what to do. So she's questioning something, But
Speaker 1: how did you guys feel about I love the date,
Speaker 1: thing about going to get the groceries and making dinner
Speaker 1: and then you spring that on her in the car.
Speaker 1: I think that's a conversation that maybe should have been
Speaker 1: had prior to the date. On Hinge.
Speaker 5: You can say if you have a kid or not,
Speaker 5: so like Heke should have been a little bit more honest,
Speaker 5: because if she saw that, she might have never want
Speaker 5: on the dates with and this issue wouldn't.
Speaker 2: Have So it's a lie. It's a lib biomission. Right.
Speaker 2: It's the same thing if I go on Hinge and
Speaker 2: put my age down it's fifty five. It's just a
Speaker 2: small detail. It's just a little right, a little one.
Speaker 2: I mean, if you really like me, do you care
Speaker 2: how old I am? So four year old kid who
Speaker 2: cares that.
Speaker 6: He put her in a bad spot by not being
Speaker 6: honest off that, because that's something you got to know.
Speaker 6: And she's got to make that decision immediately, because it's
Speaker 6: the kid that will end up paying the consequences for
Speaker 6: honesty between two adults.
Speaker 1: Well, I do wish you luck and if you can't
Speaker 1: stop thinking about him, then maybe reevaluate the whole thing.
Speaker 5: I always say that, Like if I'm shopping and there's
Speaker 5: like a really nice pair of jeans that I want,
Speaker 5: but I'm not sure if I really want to spend
Speaker 5: the money. If I keep thinking about want the jeans
Speaker 5: and I'm going to.
Speaker 1: Go, I always want them though, well, Joe, I always.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Susan gets herself into trouble. All right, So you
Speaker 2: now we've we've talked about other people's We're going to
Speaker 2: give you a chance to ask us some questions. But Ali, Joe,
Speaker 2: you know me a little bit. You know I'm going
Speaker 2: to do this to you, So let's just spring for it. Okay,
Speaker 2: do you think each other are the one? Are you
Speaker 2: each other?
Speaker 1: It's them? See it?
Speaker 2: That's Susan for them to answer, I see it. You
Speaker 2: can yell at me later.
Speaker 4: I yeah, yes, listen.
Speaker 5: I think we have a lot of things to like
Speaker 5: figure out, like living wise, like right now, it's like
Speaker 5: working right now. But I think living with somebody tells
Speaker 5: you a lot about them and changes things.
Speaker 2: But that but that doesn't mean that when I say
Speaker 2: are you the one, it means the one that at
Speaker 2: this point I see myself spending the rest of my
Speaker 2: life with.
Speaker 5: Yeah, to me, it's like all in or nothing. I'm
Speaker 5: not going to lose my time or someone else's time.
Speaker 5: And I'm not dating just to date, like I'm dating
Speaker 5: someone to see a potential future with. And We've had
Speaker 5: like conversations of things.
Speaker 2: But Ali Joe, it is time to fess up. Do
Speaker 2: we say, have you told them about your four year
Speaker 2: old child? Yeah?
Speaker 1: My, is the l word happening?
Speaker 3: I don't know. I really I have no idea is
Speaker 3: that happening.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 6: I think we're just kind of like moving at our
Speaker 6: own pace. And I think one thing that we both
Speaker 6: love a lot is keeping what we have between us.
Speaker 6: There's certain things that I don't mind sharing with the world,
Speaker 6: and then there's other things where I'm like, this is something.
Speaker 2: For you guys. Just know that we all envaccination. We
Speaker 2: are really rooting for you guys because we're both wonderful people.
Speaker 4: We weren't sure, honestly, we weren't sure.
Speaker 5: We're also like this is us, like if you know
Speaker 5: people will support it or not, So that we were
Speaker 5: really happy to see some really kind comments and just like,
Speaker 5: yeah from people is really nice.
Speaker 3: Focused on those guys, So it was nice to see.
Speaker 3: I said, look, she's already, she's already making me look better.
Speaker 1: So I met. I absolutely love it all right, what
Speaker 1: do you have questions for us?
Speaker 4: If any I want to go, you want to go first? Well, yeah,
Speaker 4: how's your relationship?
Speaker 1: It's absolutely perfect. He loved being in the United States.
Speaker 5: Okay, because I know you were like in the what
Speaker 5: island were you in? I know you were in Saint
Speaker 5: Martin St.
Speaker 4: Martin. I was going to say Saint Thomas.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So when he was leaving, he saw New York,
Speaker 1: he saw Jersey, sure, he saw the casinos. He's all
Speaker 1: South Jersey. I had him everywhere, and when he was leaving,
Speaker 1: he's like, when are we going to see each other?
Speaker 1: And I gave him dates. I only have a week
Speaker 1: and he was like, Darling, that's not long enough. I
Speaker 1: come back. So he's coming back.
Speaker 4: Doing like the long distance thing too.
Speaker 5: You know, it's it's not easy, but I would say
Speaker 5: nothing worth having Kevin comes Easy's that's awesome.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: What about me.
Speaker 1: In Canada right now?
Speaker 2: At the moment, I'm CAUs my sister lives in Ottawa
Speaker 2: and I've been here. My family came up, my kids,
Speaker 2: my grandkids, came up. You want to know about my
Speaker 2: dating life?
Speaker 1: Yes, you hear it, Although you just did a show an.
Speaker 2: Amazing I gotta tell you, Uh, you know, I went
Speaker 2: when Keith came on the show, when we were on
Speaker 2: the show and Keith said, Kathy and I I have
Speaker 2: no romantic neither of us. We're just good friends. But
Speaker 2: you know, I was like, great, Now my d ms
Speaker 2: are gonna flood with you.
Speaker 1: Do you remember that, Katy, even that we're getting off
Speaker 1: a Golden Bachelor. Oh, your dms are gonna blow.
Speaker 2: Up all these honestly, Honestly, Sam, though, the truth is
Speaker 2: I would I have a ton of energy. I love
Speaker 2: to do adventure, I love to do stuff, and I
Speaker 2: would love to find that person that would love to
Speaker 2: share uh this stage, this last great chapter of my life.
Speaker 2: I would love to find that person. But here's what
Speaker 2: one of the main things I've learned about myself is
Speaker 2: I am a complete and happy person. Why I am,
Speaker 2: and I have great family and great grandkids. And if
Speaker 2: it happens, it's great. And if it doesn't happen, then
Speaker 2: you know, I can chase after you when Alie Joe's
Speaker 2: you know it doesn't.
Speaker 3: Work, That's right, that's exactly right.
Speaker 2: You know, share and share a like do unto others
Speaker 2: all those things. Well, I'm a happy person. Friendship, but
Speaker 2: anyone have a But since you brought up Sam, you
Speaker 2: got a father and uncle, a stepfather.
Speaker 3: Grand listen, we do I know a lot of people.
Speaker 4: So we should do like a dating game. You guys
Speaker 4: should come here, we go there, and.
Speaker 2: Come on come to oft.
Speaker 4: I think US three would have obviously seased you two
Speaker 4: if you're in Paris, but US through we're in Paris
Speaker 4: the same time, Like that would have been.
Speaker 3: Our own show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was so disappointed you guys weren't there. I
Speaker 2: really was, and.
Speaker 1: I'm disappointed, but you weren't there at the same time.
Speaker 1: It would have been great.
Speaker 3: I know, I know.
Speaker 6: What do you guys think about the show so far?
Speaker 6: What do you guys think about the money the money aspect.
Speaker 1: I think it changed the dynamic of everything. I mean,
Speaker 1: it was exciting that you could win, but I don't
Speaker 1: trust any of the relationships now. It put it, yeah,
Speaker 1: a twist, I do.
Speaker 2: I think. You know they say not for love, nor
Speaker 2: money or money corrupts. I think it can. I think
Speaker 2: it's an interesting aspect to the show. It definitely changes
Speaker 2: the show, but in some ways, I think it makes
Speaker 2: it more interesting and just seeing how some of the
Speaker 2: relationships are going to play out. I'm loving watching the show.
Speaker 2: I'm a big fan.
Speaker 1: I'm such a romantic I'm in love with love and
Speaker 1: I've seen couples that like disappointed me when I saw
Speaker 1: some things that were happening, like I really believe they
Speaker 1: were really in it together, and now I'm looking like
Speaker 1: you bastards.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you, I always want to know, and I
Speaker 2: you know, I will ask almost anything, but I want
Speaker 2: to know when. Like when I watched back the show
Speaker 2: in my own I'm not surprised. I mean, I know
Speaker 2: what I said, I know what I did. But I
Speaker 2: wonder when other people watch the show back in those
Speaker 2: that are in relationships, what do they think about hearing
Speaker 2: things about their guy or girl that they didn't know happened.
Speaker 2: That always just just from a yeah, we sociological point
Speaker 2: of view.
Speaker 4: We talked about that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, because you don't know, and there's anything that you
Speaker 6: weren't honest with maybe to her, and it was in
Speaker 6: front of a camera and then you're kind of playing.
Speaker 3: You have no idea it could get shown. It cannot.
Speaker 1: So is there any specific couple that you really have
Speaker 1: hopes for as of right now? What you see, I would.
Speaker 5: Say Spencer and Justin don't really just like the most
Speaker 5: genuine for each other and like good energy and for
Speaker 5: the right reasons and like not for clouts.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I like them a lot, I think, I mean,
Speaker 6: especially because I took Jess on a date.
Speaker 3: Whenever I was.
Speaker 1: There, did look at you like you joke about it?
Speaker 2: I think?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Episode and I was like, how was that spongebath?
Speaker 2: Do you like any shower?
Speaker 4: When he takes a shower, I'm like, you want a
Speaker 4: sponge bath?
Speaker 1: That's cute.
Speaker 3: Yeah. No, I think that they're I think that they're
Speaker 3: really good for each other.
Speaker 6: Though I think that I probably put Jess and it
Speaker 6: really I don't think it was a difficult decision for
Speaker 6: her at all, And I think that just spoke volumes
Speaker 6: about her commitment to Spencer at that time, and then
Speaker 6: to see them like still kicking it and going strong
Speaker 6: right now. Out of everybody, I know, every relationship has
Speaker 6: its challenges. I think the weight of those challenges though,
Speaker 6: can They're all different, and it seems like maybe their
Speaker 6: obstacles and their challenges are a little bit lighter and
Speaker 6: maybe a little bit more reasonable than what I'm seeing
Speaker 6: from a lot of these other relationships.
Speaker 2: On what did you think? I have to ask you
Speaker 2: what did you think about the Goldens? And be nice,
Speaker 2: what did you think about the Goldens.
Speaker 6: Being on listen? I think that you guys are the
Speaker 6: freaking best. I'm just pissed that I didn't get to
Speaker 6: meet you guys. And the whole world loves you guys too.
Speaker 6: It's kind of funny. I joke with her about it.
Speaker 6: I'm like, yeah, we all went on Gen season, weren't
Speaker 6: really like Grant season, you know.
Speaker 3: But and then the Goldens came about and everybody's like
Speaker 3: the Golden Yeah, yeah, And I didn't get to see
Speaker 3: you guys. You guys came in hot.
Speaker 1: They did great entrance entrance.
Speaker 2: I I you know, by I don't you saw it?
Speaker 2: But my secret that whole thing, like damn, I was
Speaker 2: getting a date because I did not get a date
Speaker 2: on our season. I was determined I was scoring to
Speaker 2: win a date.
Speaker 4: Yeah that's how I felt too.
Speaker 1: So do you do every other one who travels to
Speaker 1: who is that part of a thing.
Speaker 5: Or yeah, but it doesn't really bother I was like,
Speaker 5: there's been occurrences where like I came here the past
Speaker 5: couple of times, but that's okay because like we went
Speaker 5: to Atlanta this weekend.
Speaker 1: Different.
Speaker 4: It just like has worked out like like that, you know, and.
Speaker 1: Your schedule is flexible enough.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it depends.
Speaker 2: I mean, Sam, I gotta ask one more question you
Speaker 2: you are you not afraid that she could haul off
Speaker 2: and give you a left jab and a right hook.
Speaker 6: Listen, that's what I That's what I kind of like
Speaker 6: though a little bit, I'm like, yeah, I gotta be
Speaker 6: all my best behavior for the most part.
Speaker 4: So yeah, he's very like supportive.
Speaker 5: Like I've gone to him a couple of things have
Speaker 5: been going on with like personal things, and I've gone
Speaker 5: to like ask for questions and just advice, and he's
Speaker 5: given me the best advice and just been so supportive.
Speaker 5: So that was something that was really important to me
Speaker 5: because you know, we're not together, so to pick up
Speaker 5: a phone or to have like important conversations on FaceTime,
Speaker 5: you know, you don't.
Speaker 4: Want it to be here.
Speaker 5: And I think it's just it's not like it was
Speaker 5: a test, but I think it's a good test to see,
Speaker 5: you know, when things do go sideways or south in
Speaker 5: life because how it happens, like how he'll show up there,
Speaker 5: how he'll show up for me.
Speaker 2: So let me say, we don't know whether you guys
Speaker 2: what your fuguals, but Susan, would you not agree he
Speaker 2: the words you guys are using. You show up for
Speaker 2: each other, You listen, you communicate well, you spend time
Speaker 2: making time for each other, all your families get along.
Speaker 2: All these things are ingredients that make a good relationship.
Speaker 2: And so, whether you know, our hope is that it
Speaker 2: just continues to grow.
Speaker 1: For you listen to friends, they paid attention. The friendship
Speaker 1: has to be strong, yes, right, and we see it.
Speaker 1: We see it. We love this.
Speaker 3: When you care that much, it's it's easy.
Speaker 6: It's easy to listen when the person front of you.
Speaker 2: You, oh, she's gonna cry, Okay, come over it.
Speaker 1: We love this. I hate to say this, but I
Speaker 1: think that does it. For today's episode A Bachelor Happy Hours,
Speaker 1: Golden Hour, I want to thank you both for opening
Speaker 1: up to us and being here with us today. It
Speaker 1: means the world to us, right, Katy, really?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Thanks you guys. Your advice was great. We love seeing
Speaker 2: you guys so happy. Thank you all so much for
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