WEBVTT - EXCLUSIVE: Alli Jo & Sam M. Found Love! | Golden Hour 0:00:07.320 --> 0:00:11.280 Welcome back everybody to Bachelor Happy Hour's Golden Hour. Thanks 0:00:11.320 --> 0:00:13.720 so much for coming back and joining us, and we 0:00:13.760 --> 0:00:16.040 are so excited about today's episode. 0:00:16.440 --> 0:00:20.440 Kathy, we certainly are. Just be sure to check out 0:00:20.440 --> 0:00:23.680 our latest episode. We have been having so much fun 0:00:24.079 --> 0:00:29.600 answering your questions, disagreeing with each other, chatting with all 0:00:29.600 --> 0:00:30.480 your Bachelor. 0:00:30.280 --> 0:00:34.880 Nation face and today I'm so excited we have two 0:00:35.080 --> 0:00:39.360 very special guests. Please welcome from this season of Paradise 0:00:40.040 --> 0:00:46.240 New love birds, Allie Joe and Sam m if you will. Hi, guys, 0:00:46.280 --> 0:00:47.800 welcome to that Golden Hour. 0:00:48.320 --> 0:00:50.640 What's up? Thanks for having us guys? 0:00:50.640 --> 0:00:54.040 How great are you? Okay, So we have so much 0:00:54.840 --> 0:00:57.520 that we want to dive into today, so we're just 0:00:57.520 --> 0:00:59.320 going to get things started right away. But I have 0:00:59.360 --> 0:01:03.920 to say you make the most fabulous looking couple. I 0:01:04.000 --> 0:01:04.759 just have to say that. 0:01:04.760 --> 0:01:06.840 Right, That's something Kathy and I agree on. 0:01:07.480 --> 0:01:11.280 Yes, pretty one. She's a pretty one. 0:01:12.240 --> 0:01:14.839 You're pretty pretty yourself. Sam. We're gonna give. 0:01:14.760 --> 0:01:17.160 You some credit. 0:01:18.480 --> 0:01:21.479 There's something I learned that Kathy and I both also. 0:01:21.600 --> 0:01:26.440 Did we all have our motorcycle license? Yeah? I just 0:01:26.480 --> 0:01:28.280 sold my bike like three years ago. 0:01:28.840 --> 0:01:29.200 Wow? 0:01:29.680 --> 0:01:33.000 All right, but before before we talk about motorcycle because 0:01:33.120 --> 0:01:35.920 you know, been there and done that. We have the 0:01:35.959 --> 0:01:39.360 biggest question that everyone wants to know. How did you 0:01:39.400 --> 0:01:42.680 two start dating? 0:01:44.240 --> 0:01:47.560 Okay, I'll go first, Okay because I'm older, Older people 0:01:47.560 --> 0:01:51.760 go first, ladies versa. So I reached out to him 0:01:51.760 --> 0:01:53.840 a couple of months ago during Grand Season, like the 0:01:53.840 --> 0:01:56.680 show was just on. I was teaching a rumble class 0:01:56.680 --> 0:01:58.840 and one of my clients had said something to mean 0:01:58.840 --> 0:02:03.120 a lotty before class at her son knew his sister 0:02:03.280 --> 0:02:05.160 and it was like a mutual person. That person was 0:02:05.160 --> 0:02:07.680 also from Jersey, so Jersey thing in common, and I 0:02:07.720 --> 0:02:10.120 had messaged him and then I was like, I just 0:02:10.160 --> 0:02:12.080 actually got compared to you on the show. It was 0:02:12.120 --> 0:02:14.800 like right after the episode, after the basketball date. So 0:02:14.840 --> 0:02:17.679 we started chatting a little bit. And then a couple 0:02:17.720 --> 0:02:21.440 of months later, I posted a photo and he DMS 0:02:21.520 --> 0:02:24.399 me and we started talking about paradise and we both 0:02:24.440 --> 0:02:26.480 like didn't know if we were going or not. And 0:02:26.520 --> 0:02:29.960 then he answered me and I stopped answering his messages. 0:02:30.919 --> 0:02:35.280 And wait minute, I saw you stop answering his messages. 0:02:35.760 --> 0:02:37.160 Yes I can. 0:02:37.200 --> 0:02:40.480 I ask why because we were like talking about paradise 0:02:40.600 --> 0:02:41.919 and we both didn't know if we were going, but I 0:02:41.960 --> 0:02:43.840 think we were both like hopeful, but he wasn't sure 0:02:43.840 --> 0:02:45.680 if he wanted to. And I was like, if I'm 0:02:45.680 --> 0:02:47.000 sitting at the time, I would want to go. But 0:02:47.080 --> 0:02:48.760 I knew if I went and he went, like he 0:02:48.840 --> 0:02:50.560 was somebody I wanted to meet. So I didn't want 0:02:50.560 --> 0:02:52.800 to keep the conversation going and asking questions because if 0:02:52.800 --> 0:02:54.120 he was going to be on the beach, I wanted 0:02:54.120 --> 0:02:56.440 it to happen organically. I didn't want to know all 0:02:56.520 --> 0:02:58.120 these things about him if he was going to go, 0:02:58.240 --> 0:02:59.560 Like we both really didn't. 0:02:59.320 --> 0:03:02.560 Know, Joe. When you did get to Paradise, how did 0:03:02.560 --> 0:03:05.400 you feel knowing that Sam had just gone home? 0:03:06.200 --> 0:03:07.959 I was really really disappointed. 0:03:08.000 --> 0:03:10.880 But that's so I kept saying he was the only 0:03:10.919 --> 0:03:13.160 person I really wanted to meet, and like, waiting to 0:03:13.200 --> 0:03:14.640 go in, I knew I was coming in late with 0:03:14.680 --> 0:03:17.840 a date card, like I was so confident, and I 0:03:17.880 --> 0:03:19.760 was like, this is my opportunity, Like I've never had 0:03:19.760 --> 0:03:21.480 a date on Grant season. People only saw like a 0:03:21.520 --> 0:03:23.840 side of me, and I really really wanted to meet him, 0:03:24.160 --> 0:03:26.040 and so I thought it was gonna be the perfect opportunity. 0:03:26.400 --> 0:03:27.959 So to find out he had just went home, and 0:03:28.040 --> 0:03:29.760 that was like, I was really shocked. 0:03:29.760 --> 0:03:31.440 I was surprised. I was super disappointed. 0:03:31.880 --> 0:03:34.679 Yeah. So let me just say when I rolled into 0:03:34.720 --> 0:03:38.240 Paradise and found out that both of you had gone home, 0:03:39.000 --> 0:03:41.600 you know, truly, I was really disappointed because I wanted 0:03:41.600 --> 0:03:46.000 to meet both of you in person. But I want 0:03:46.040 --> 0:03:51.280 to know what were your experiences like each of you. 0:03:51.680 --> 0:03:55.920 Yeah, I think they were kind of similar. I think 0:03:56.920 --> 0:03:58.480 I was told that I was walking down with a date. 0:03:58.560 --> 0:03:58.800 Card. 0:03:58.880 --> 0:04:01.920 I was extremely excited to take her out. She was 0:04:01.960 --> 0:04:04.520 the only person that I had planned on taking, and 0:04:04.560 --> 0:04:06.440 even in my interviews leading up to it, it was 0:04:06.440 --> 0:04:08.440 the only She was the only name that I dropped. 0:04:08.720 --> 0:04:10.800 And I mean, come on, sim you could have said 0:04:11.160 --> 0:04:13.240 or maybe Kathy A Gold that I by kicking. 0:04:14.520 --> 0:04:16.680 Listen, if you were there and she was, I would 0:04:16.680 --> 0:04:18.360 have taken you. That's how I would have gone. 0:04:18.600 --> 0:04:21.560 Anything you want, Sam, You're my man, all right, you boyd? Sorry? 0:04:22.279 --> 0:04:24.120 No, So it was it was kind of the same thing. 0:04:24.640 --> 0:04:26.159 They told me that I was gonna go down late, 0:04:26.360 --> 0:04:28.279 go down with the date card. I was really looking 0:04:28.320 --> 0:04:31.720 forward to meeting her, taking her, and then I got 0:04:31.760 --> 0:04:34.120 there and I kind of looked around and saw that 0:04:34.200 --> 0:04:37.720 she wasn't there, And it was just really disheartening, I think, 0:04:37.960 --> 0:04:40.560 because then I'm asking myself, like, what the hell am 0:04:40.600 --> 0:04:41.480 I doing here right now? 0:04:41.600 --> 0:04:44.360 You know? And no offense to any of the girls there. 0:04:44.400 --> 0:04:46.080 I thought they were all sweet, but I kind of 0:04:46.160 --> 0:04:47.880 knew what I was looking for going in there, and 0:04:47.920 --> 0:04:51.320 it wasn't there whenever I got there. So now I'm 0:04:51.320 --> 0:04:54.320 like asking myself, you know, am I am I wasting time? 0:04:54.480 --> 0:04:57.600 Or I've come this far? Do we just try it 0:04:57.680 --> 0:04:59.280 out and see how it all goes, even though we 0:04:59.400 --> 0:05:01.279 probably know the way that it's going to happen. So 0:05:02.080 --> 0:05:06.920 I think both of us kind of had the same story. Yeah, 0:05:07.000 --> 0:05:09.400 So it was a I think a little disheartening maybe 0:05:09.400 --> 0:05:12.560 in the moment not not getting it or not it 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:17.560 not happening on TV, But but we. 0:05:17.560 --> 0:05:19.479 Knew we were going to make stuff happen. We didn't 0:05:19.520 --> 0:05:20.040 need TV. 0:05:20.160 --> 0:05:22.719 I didn't need TV to, you know, to book a 0:05:22.720 --> 0:05:23.800 plane ticket and go see. 0:05:23.920 --> 0:05:26.440 Basically, Costa Rica is in your rear view mirror. 0:05:26.760 --> 0:05:29.240 Once I found out she wasn't there and I was 0:05:29.279 --> 0:05:30.520 going home, I'm like, all. 0:05:30.480 --> 0:05:32.920 Right, well, we don't like to say that we met 0:05:33.200 --> 0:05:35.600 on TV because we didn't technically. 0:05:35.960 --> 0:05:38.040 Who called who first after the show. 0:05:38.839 --> 0:05:40.880 I did, because he was already home. He didn't know 0:05:40.920 --> 0:05:43.200 if I was there, like, he had no clue. So 0:05:43.279 --> 0:05:45.119 I had gotten back and I got on my phone 0:05:45.160 --> 0:05:47.240 and I messaged him and I said, hey, I heard 0:05:47.240 --> 0:05:48.560 you were here just a couple of hours ago. 0:05:49.000 --> 0:05:50.359 And I was like really disappointed. 0:05:50.360 --> 0:05:53.000 I'm really upset, and he goes, chin up, here's my number, 0:05:53.040 --> 0:05:55.880 give me a call. And I called him before I 0:05:55.920 --> 0:05:58.839 got on the flight, and then ever since then, Oh. 0:05:58.880 --> 0:06:02.200 God, so wait a minute, I want to know a 0:06:02.880 --> 0:06:05.800 when was your first date and what's digging been like 0:06:05.880 --> 0:06:08.200 so far? Like some of your best moments you've had. 0:06:09.320 --> 0:06:10.320 We've had a lot, and. 0:06:10.400 --> 0:06:15.320 We had a lot. I think it's scary. I think 0:06:15.400 --> 0:06:15.960 a lot of it. 0:06:16.640 --> 0:06:18.960 One of my favorite moments was facetiming her for the 0:06:19.000 --> 0:06:22.120 first time, and it was with her and her mom actually, 0:06:22.800 --> 0:06:26.480 and this was fresh off of Paradise. I don't know 0:06:26.520 --> 0:06:29.520 if we'd ever even spoke on the phone outside of. 0:06:29.640 --> 0:06:32.560 Yeah, it was like Mother's Day weekend because after Paradise, 0:06:32.640 --> 0:06:34.839 I was I was really like not in a great headspace. 0:06:34.880 --> 0:06:36.920 I was actually like just depressed over everything. 0:06:37.360 --> 0:06:40.040 And I flew right to Jersey after Paradise and then 0:06:40.040 --> 0:06:42.560 I facetimed him with my mom. We were going to 0:06:42.600 --> 0:06:46.080 dinner and yeah, that was when we first started talking. Yeah, 0:06:46.080 --> 0:06:49.320 but the first time he came to Florida was early June. Yeah, 0:06:49.360 --> 0:06:51.480 so we were talking on the phone but facetiming for 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:54.440 about a month or so before he made his flight 0:06:54.520 --> 0:06:55.480 to Florida. 0:06:55.640 --> 0:06:57.120 I love this, I love it. 0:06:57.839 --> 0:07:01.240 I love it. Is there anybody just literally smiling? 0:07:02.800 --> 0:07:02.920 Right? 0:07:03.240 --> 0:07:05.400 Is there anybody from the season that you guys would 0:07:05.440 --> 0:07:08.600 want to double date with? Do you have any favorite couple? 0:07:08.920 --> 0:07:10.800 If you will, I don't know. 0:07:13.000 --> 0:07:13.800 What would you say? 0:07:15.440 --> 0:07:17.360 I don't know, because I'm watching the couples play out 0:07:17.440 --> 0:07:19.000 right now. I'm like, there's so much drama. 0:07:19.080 --> 0:07:20.000 We don't want the problem. 0:07:20.120 --> 0:07:23.480 Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. True. 0:07:24.120 --> 0:07:27.520 Yeah, I think everybody's just so different than And one 0:07:27.520 --> 0:07:32.120 thing that really attracted me to her was just what 0:07:32.200 --> 0:07:33.280 real life it really is. 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:34.960 You know, the show is awesome. 0:07:34.800 --> 0:07:37.880 And it but it only makes up just a certain 0:07:37.920 --> 0:07:39.960 percentage of our lives and stuff like that. 0:07:40.000 --> 0:07:41.280 And I think being able. 0:07:41.040 --> 0:07:45.680 To separate yourself from TV and reality and make sure 0:07:45.760 --> 0:07:48.000 that reality is still at the top of your priority 0:07:48.000 --> 0:07:49.880 list and not get caught up in any of this 0:07:49.920 --> 0:07:52.600 other stuff was something that you know why I was 0:07:52.680 --> 0:07:54.600 drawn to her as much as I have been, so. 0:07:54.560 --> 0:08:00.360 I think looking back at the show now, I. 0:08:02.600 --> 0:08:04.840 Mean, I just want to say. I just want to 0:08:04.880 --> 0:08:08.880 say again, Kathy is in Bachelor Nation and available for 0:08:09.000 --> 0:08:12.280 double date. All you require is that you find me 0:08:13.000 --> 0:08:14.560 the person that's going on the date with me. 0:08:14.800 --> 0:08:15.640 It's pretty simple. 0:08:15.960 --> 0:08:18.000 Well, going to double date with you guys, and you're men. 0:08:18.240 --> 0:08:20.280 But Katy, I remember I was talking to you and 0:08:20.320 --> 0:08:21.520 I told you about him. 0:08:22.000 --> 0:08:26.520 Yes, yeah, in fact, in fact, we're to know. So 0:08:26.640 --> 0:08:28.760 that's exactly where I was going. You read my mind. 0:08:28.960 --> 0:08:31.960 I was going to ask you, did you tell you 0:08:32.040 --> 0:08:34.760 anyone in Bachelor Nation that you were dating? For you 0:08:34.800 --> 0:08:36.880 in public? And then I was going to say, besides me, 0:08:36.960 --> 0:08:40.400 because you actually did tell me and Alie Joe, I 0:08:40.440 --> 0:08:41.240 didn't tell anyone. 0:08:41.360 --> 0:08:42.679 I can't tell anybody. 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:45.040 I didn't tell Susan. I didn't tell anyone because it 0:08:45.080 --> 0:08:47.720 wasn't mine to tell. But I was so happy for you. 0:08:48.040 --> 0:08:49.280 Did you tell anyone else? 0:08:49.600 --> 0:08:52.000 Yeah, Juliana, I told We talked about it like we 0:08:52.000 --> 0:08:52.800 were facetimed her. 0:08:53.080 --> 0:08:54.880 Oh yeah, yeah, you told me that. Yeah, And so 0:08:54.960 --> 0:08:57.720 that's it. Boy, I mean a really small league club here. 0:08:57.760 --> 0:08:59.839 I feel on wait Kathy going. 0:09:00.240 --> 0:09:04.359 When we had Ellie Joe on the podcast, I specifically 0:09:04.400 --> 0:09:09.040 asked her if perhaps you were asked to go on Paradise, 0:09:09.160 --> 0:09:11.920 is there anyone in particular that you would hope to 0:09:11.960 --> 0:09:15.040 be there and you were that wouldn't. 0:09:14.640 --> 0:09:16.600 Say anything because I didn't want to like put my 0:09:16.760 --> 0:09:18.040 like eggs and basket or. 0:09:18.480 --> 0:09:21.200 That's what you said. That's what you said. You didn't 0:09:21.240 --> 0:09:23.560 want to and you wanted to. You said you had 0:09:23.559 --> 0:09:25.760 people in mind, by someone in mind, but you did 0:09:25.840 --> 0:09:26.720 want to say who it was. 0:09:27.040 --> 0:09:28.720 And I didn't either, because look what happened. 0:09:28.760 --> 0:09:30.360 I got there and he wasn't there, and I me 0:09:30.400 --> 0:09:31.640 and him talk about it, and I said it the 0:09:31.679 --> 0:09:34.120 other day like I was still there. I still wanted 0:09:34.160 --> 0:09:35.600 to make the most of my time. You know, you'd 0:09:35.640 --> 0:09:38.120 put your life on pause. And I really felt like confident. 0:09:38.480 --> 0:09:40.719 Well I felt confident before when I thought he was there, 0:09:40.760 --> 0:09:42.560 but afterwards, I still wanted to get to know people 0:09:42.600 --> 0:09:44.960 were still there. We're on this amazing opportunity and you 0:09:44.960 --> 0:09:46.480 don't know what can transpire from it. So I was 0:09:46.480 --> 0:09:48.360 going to like shoot myself in the foot. Yes, did 0:09:48.360 --> 0:09:50.320 I want to be with him, of course. I mean listen, 0:09:50.360 --> 0:09:51.880 I was only on beach for like thirty hours, thirty 0:09:51.920 --> 0:09:54.800 six hours at that but it still had like a. 0:09:54.800 --> 0:09:55.640 Nice time there. 0:09:56.280 --> 0:09:57.839 But again, I didn't want to go my EGS one 0:09:57.880 --> 0:09:59.400 basket because you just don't know I could. 0:09:59.240 --> 0:10:02.120 Have gotten there. So wait, I want to get back 0:10:02.160 --> 0:10:06.120 to the So when you went public, what was that like? 0:10:06.120 --> 0:10:08.960 Like posting didn't feel natural to go out, you know 0:10:09.000 --> 0:10:11.760 because everything that happens on social media, you know, no 0:10:11.800 --> 0:10:14.600 one reads. It's just a few people or ten million 0:10:14.760 --> 0:10:15.360 one or the other. 0:10:15.760 --> 0:10:18.560 We kind of knew what we were getting into and 0:10:18.600 --> 0:10:22.240 that's why I kind of teased everybody when she posted 0:10:22.240 --> 0:10:24.240 that or I posted that photo and she's holding a 0:10:24.320 --> 0:10:26.600 drink and I'm in the background, like we you know, 0:10:26.640 --> 0:10:27.760 we knew what we were doing. 0:10:28.280 --> 0:10:30.520 But did you love it that? People said, oh wait, 0:10:30.559 --> 0:10:32.839 it's the same hand it was. 0:10:34.240 --> 0:10:37.640 It was really funny. It's like, oh, the fingernails are yeah. 0:10:37.600 --> 0:10:38.160 Red nails. 0:10:38.160 --> 0:10:40.040 And then we saw each other again after that came 0:10:40.040 --> 0:10:41.560 out and I got my nails and again, and I 0:10:41.640 --> 0:10:42.920 was like, I'm doing a different color. 0:10:43.000 --> 0:10:44.400 Let's see if people pick up. 0:10:46.679 --> 0:10:50.040 Things. It gave me something to kind of like smile 0:10:50.120 --> 0:10:52.920 at and uh, it's funny. Yeah, it was. It was 0:10:52.960 --> 0:10:53.600 definitely funny. 0:10:53.600 --> 0:10:56.720 We never hid ourselves from anybody, even whenever I would 0:10:56.720 --> 0:11:00.199 go see her, we walked around. We were how do 0:11:00.280 --> 0:11:03.320 people come up to you? Yeah, they would, and we 0:11:03.320 --> 0:11:05.280 would talk to anybody. If somebody wanted to take a 0:11:05.280 --> 0:11:07.960 photo with us, I would just say, hey, you can 0:11:08.000 --> 0:11:09.680 take one with her, but we just can't be in 0:11:09.720 --> 0:11:13.160 the same photo yet together. So we really didn't really 0:11:13.160 --> 0:11:15.280 want an instance where somebody. I thought somebody was taking 0:11:15.280 --> 0:11:16.840 a photo of both of us and I was like, hey, 0:11:16.840 --> 0:11:18.880 you can't post that. He's like, actually, I'm on FaceTime 0:11:18.960 --> 0:11:23.160 with my sister or something like that. So so yeah, 0:11:23.160 --> 0:11:24.760 we kind of knew what we were doing. 0:11:24.920 --> 0:11:27.400 But we were trying to be careful. 0:11:27.960 --> 0:11:30.679 You know, we are with this is real life. 0:11:30.880 --> 0:11:32.440 Yeah, we want to live our life like we're not 0:11:32.440 --> 0:11:33.240 on this anymore. 0:11:33.520 --> 0:11:35.920 So I watch what. We want to know what's going 0:11:36.000 --> 0:11:38.080 on in your life? What what have you guys been 0:11:38.160 --> 0:11:40.640 up to? We tell us what your life is like now. 0:11:41.960 --> 0:11:43.439 Well, we both met each other's families. 0:11:43.480 --> 0:11:45.680 We both had like super big weekends like my mom, 0:11:45.720 --> 0:11:47.800 my stepdad, my sister, my aunts, my uncles, and my 0:11:47.840 --> 0:11:50.520 cousins like they were on Florida for my episode. 0:11:50.640 --> 0:11:53.000 He flew in that weekend. He took a rumble. 0:11:52.640 --> 0:11:58.680 Class, the rumble class, and I met his entire family. 0:11:58.720 --> 0:12:02.640 I watched some coach a baseball tournament. I met, Yeah, 0:12:02.880 --> 0:12:05.040 his nieces, niece, nephew. 0:12:07.000 --> 0:12:10.760 And how about where we're living? Where are you now? Sam? 0:12:11.240 --> 0:12:11.960 I'm still in. 0:12:13.000 --> 0:12:14.959 You are in Myrtle Beach Okay, yes, ma'am. 0:12:15.040 --> 0:12:16.240 And she's still in. 0:12:17.000 --> 0:12:20.079 Yeah. So you know the question. I'm asking it always 0:12:20.080 --> 0:12:22.760 because I'm the batslor. Is anyone moving? I don't know. 0:12:22.840 --> 0:12:26.000 Let's just pick two places, just pick them out of 0:12:26.000 --> 0:12:30.360 bat anyone talking about moving to Myrtle Beach or maybe Florida? 0:12:30.640 --> 0:12:32.679 Yeah, we talked about it on our six hour car 0:12:32.760 --> 0:12:34.439 drive home from Atlanta. 0:12:34.480 --> 0:12:38.600 Yes, long distance relationships, and that's not even really that 0:12:38.840 --> 0:12:41.520 long of a distance. Trust me. I have a long distance, 0:12:41.559 --> 0:12:44.400 as you know, and that is long. But this isn't 0:12:44.520 --> 0:12:46.600 This is doable until. 0:12:48.720 --> 0:12:51.840 I think it's it's tough, like knowing that she's leaving 0:12:51.920 --> 0:12:56.080 today is it doesn't feel great. But what it does 0:12:56.200 --> 0:12:58.600 is that any time that's spent with each other is 0:12:58.679 --> 0:13:01.800 just so intentional. There's no for a dull moment. There's 0:13:01.840 --> 0:13:06.040 never a complacent moment. It's really just absorbing every single 0:13:06.080 --> 0:13:09.080 second of time. And also too, it tests your levels 0:13:09.080 --> 0:13:13.160 of communication because you still want to show intention and 0:13:13.320 --> 0:13:17.200 show like desire and you know, pursuit of what you 0:13:17.400 --> 0:13:20.520 still want in kind of an unorthodox fashion. 0:13:20.640 --> 0:13:22.520 So for right now, we're making that work. 0:13:23.720 --> 0:13:25.560 Yeah, we see each other like every other weekend. It's 0:13:25.600 --> 0:13:26.000 been great. 0:13:26.080 --> 0:13:28.079 Do you do you have your next visit? 0:13:28.480 --> 0:13:28.760 I don't. 0:13:28.880 --> 0:13:31.160 Some of the interviewed, I think it was Ben Higgins, 0:13:31.520 --> 0:13:33.679 said that when he was dating way back in the 0:13:33.760 --> 0:13:38.959 Dark Ages, he they never left without having their next 0:13:39.200 --> 0:13:41.360 date planned. You are you guys doing that? 0:13:42.080 --> 0:13:42.240 Oh? 0:13:42.280 --> 0:13:42.760 Yeah, we were. 0:13:42.760 --> 0:13:44.640 It's funny we were. I was literally just looking at 0:13:44.640 --> 0:13:48.960 flights like twenty minutes ago. Yeah, we stay on top 0:13:49.000 --> 0:13:50.880 of that. You want something to look forward to. I 0:13:50.880 --> 0:13:53.960 think you know, it's kind of a running clock and 0:13:54.000 --> 0:13:58.679 your tank gets gets to E and right now it's full. 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:00.400 Chaldging. 0:14:00.400 --> 0:14:02.679 But listen, like all of his friends and good friends 0:14:02.679 --> 0:14:05.199 are like in relationships, married, have kids. All my really 0:14:05.240 --> 0:14:08.040 good friends are in relationships too, So we're also at 0:14:08.040 --> 0:14:10.199 that point, like I mean, at least me and to like, 0:14:10.200 --> 0:14:11.959 we don't want to go out and just like go out, 0:14:12.040 --> 0:14:12.600 just to go out. 0:14:12.679 --> 0:14:13.640 You know, how old are you? 0:14:13.679 --> 0:14:16.560 Guys? Again, you're older? Ally Joe, Right, how old are you? 0:14:16.840 --> 0:14:18.560 I'm thirty one, I'm twenty eight. 0:14:19.200 --> 0:14:22.080 Yeah, I don't care. You know what I like? 0:14:22.840 --> 0:14:24.920 I like the older women. I like the older women. 0:14:25.080 --> 0:14:27.960 Wait a second, Wait a minute, Sam, I am the Kathy. 0:14:28.000 --> 0:14:29.440 She better be good to me if she's not. 0:14:29.400 --> 0:14:33.520 Good to me, Joe, Ali, Joe, I'm tag teaming. I'm watching. 0:14:33.600 --> 0:14:45.640 I say, you know you've been I'm hiding. All right, 0:14:45.680 --> 0:14:47.840 listen to you, guys. We're gonna move into our advice 0:14:47.960 --> 0:14:51.040 portion of the episode. We're going to kick things off 0:14:51.080 --> 0:14:53.640 with our question of the day, and we want your 0:14:53.680 --> 0:14:56.960 thoughts on it. Are you? Are you game? All right? 0:14:56.960 --> 0:15:00.320 Here we go a lot of our listeners right in 0:15:00.600 --> 0:15:04.680 about first dates turning in to second dates. What are 0:15:04.720 --> 0:15:09.640 some signs that indicate the other person isn't interested that 0:15:09.800 --> 0:15:10.840 most people miss? 0:15:13.280 --> 0:15:15.560 Well, you're guys, let's see what you say. 0:15:16.560 --> 0:15:21.080 Okay, I would say, checking your phone often during the 0:15:21.120 --> 0:15:21.680 first date. 0:15:22.360 --> 0:15:23.680 Who that's a good one. 0:15:24.000 --> 0:15:28.200 Yeah, I would say, not giving a firm answer as 0:15:28.240 --> 0:15:31.000 to when the second date would be. I'll let you know, 0:15:31.560 --> 0:15:32.120 kind of thing. 0:15:33.000 --> 0:15:34.720 What about you, Ali, Joe, what do you think? 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:36.840 Yeah, like what if they were on a first date 0:15:36.880 --> 0:15:38.480 to see if it's a second date would happen? 0:15:39.160 --> 0:15:39.560 Yeah? 0:15:39.600 --> 0:15:43.640 Well so yeah, and they're saying, like listeners say to us, 0:15:43.800 --> 0:15:46.160 you know, we had we thought I thought it was 0:15:46.160 --> 0:15:48.160 a great first date, but it never turns into a 0:15:48.200 --> 0:15:51.200 second date. And what are some signs that you would 0:15:51.240 --> 0:15:54.160 say that indicate the person that you're the first day 0:15:54.200 --> 0:15:55.800 with isn't interested. 0:15:56.120 --> 0:15:58.240 That he doesn't you know, make sure you got home, okay, 0:15:58.400 --> 0:16:00.240 call you the next day. How are you feel like 0:16:00.240 --> 0:16:01.520 it doesn't need to be a whole big thing, like 0:16:01.520 --> 0:16:03.040 we always say, like we don't want to text every day, 0:16:03.080 --> 0:16:05.600 but like at least he should call her and say. 0:16:05.360 --> 0:16:07.400 Hey, you know, I love seeing you last night. What's 0:16:07.400 --> 0:16:09.400 your week? Like, let's get another date on the schedule 0:16:09.600 --> 0:16:10.120 on calendar. 0:16:10.200 --> 0:16:10.840 We're all busy. 0:16:11.720 --> 0:16:13.640 How about this one? If he lets you pay for 0:16:13.680 --> 0:16:17.560 the date the first day and the. 0:16:17.480 --> 0:16:20.520 First date, you now it wasn't going to be a second. 0:16:20.240 --> 0:16:22.520 Doesn't walk into your car. I mean there's you know, 0:16:23.040 --> 0:16:23.960 it's you want. 0:16:23.840 --> 0:16:25.720 To know if he does actually that I love and 0:16:25.880 --> 0:16:27.440 these are things I look for, Like I feel like 0:16:27.480 --> 0:16:29.800 I'm more like old school, Like every single time we 0:16:29.800 --> 0:16:32.280 get in the car, he opened my car door for me. 0:16:33.200 --> 0:16:35.240 That is something that's so important to me and I 0:16:35.280 --> 0:16:37.400 always look for that. And I've been on dates where 0:16:37.400 --> 0:16:38.120 guys don't do that. 0:16:38.640 --> 0:16:41.520 So I have a question that that My question of 0:16:41.520 --> 0:16:44.600 the day is. I mean, Susan and I have been 0:16:44.640 --> 0:16:47.040 around the earth a few you know, a few times 0:16:47.160 --> 0:16:52.120 around the sun. Whatever the expression is, and what is it? 0:16:52.720 --> 0:16:55.760 Do you think women don't care if guys don't have 0:16:55.840 --> 0:16:58.720 good manners, Because every time we interview someone, right, Susan, 0:16:58.760 --> 0:17:02.200 they'll say, I'm old fashioned. Exactly what you said, Ali, Joe, 0:17:02.320 --> 0:17:06.600 I'm old fashioned the door for me? What's the deal? 0:17:06.680 --> 0:17:09.600 Do guys not care? Maybe better asking for you, Sam, 0:17:09.680 --> 0:17:10.800 what what is the deal? 0:17:10.880 --> 0:17:15.200 But I just think it comes back to probably the 0:17:15.240 --> 0:17:17.959 way that you were raised. You know. 0:17:18.160 --> 0:17:21.840 I taught that right, absolutely taught respect your women and 0:17:22.040 --> 0:17:23.080 your elder. 0:17:23.320 --> 0:17:26.280 I've got two sisters. My parents are still married, they've 0:17:26.280 --> 0:17:29.000 been married for thirty plus years. And I think from 0:17:29.040 --> 0:17:33.760 the South, everybody is extremely kind. But I tell her 0:17:33.800 --> 0:17:35.880 all the time, I didn't open up her door one time, 0:17:35.960 --> 0:17:37.679 and it was actually the very first time. 0:17:37.560 --> 0:17:40.080 That I met her in the airport I was driving. 0:17:39.920 --> 0:17:43.000 And she was driving, and I didn't because some people 0:17:43.000 --> 0:17:45.320 think it's weird. And I was like, I don't want 0:17:45.359 --> 0:17:48.040 to come across in a certain in a certain way. 0:17:48.119 --> 0:17:49.600 And then the next time I was like, you know, 0:17:49.640 --> 0:17:51.080 I forget it. I'm going to do it, and I'm 0:17:51.080 --> 0:17:52.840 going to explain to her, like if my mom was 0:17:52.880 --> 0:17:55.160