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We have some great questions today that we'll 20 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 2: get into with our very very special guests today. 21 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: Only today our Bachelor Nation star Kylie Rustless here. Hi, Kylie, 22 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 1: thanks so much for joining us. We're so excited to 23 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: be chatting with you. I have so many questions, we 24 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: don't know where to begin. 25 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 2: You're adorable. 26 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 3: Thank you, Thanks, ladies. I am so excited. I have 27 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 3: been dying to meet you, so just get to talk 28 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:32,839 Speaker 3: to you today. I am kind of freaking out inside 29 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 3: a lots to cover, but I'm so excited to be 30 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 3: talking about it with you and then hopefully get some 31 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:41,479 Speaker 3: advice from my big sisters. 32 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: Oh big sister, you hear that, Susan, big sister. Okay, First, Kylie, 33 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: I want to tell you the three of us have 34 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: something in common. So I listened to your podcast with 35 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: Serena and Joe and we'll get into that a bit. 36 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: But Susan, the three of us have a lot in common. 37 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: She loves Christmas. When I was on the Golden Bachelor, 38 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: that one of the things I said. I was obsessed 39 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: with Christmas. But more importantly, more importantly, she loves tequila, 40 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: my favorite drink. Am I right? And Susan? Are you ready? 41 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 1: And guess what else? Susan? She loves all things Italian, 42 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: loves Italian food. Are we sisters? Or are we? Then? 43 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 3: I was about to say I need to try your meatball, Susan, 44 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 3: and then think her sister is definitely separated at birth, 45 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 3: so let's get together. 46 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 2: Are you Italian? 47 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 3: I'm not Italian? I think always the first question someone 48 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 3: asks you when they meet me is like, Okay, Kylie, 49 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 3: what are you? Because my look is so ambiguous. But 50 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 3: my mom is fully white, and then my dad is 51 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 3: half black, half Cherokee Indians. So I'm a little bit 52 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 3: of a mutt. 53 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: You're beautiful, You are gorgeous. You are, but. 54 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 3: It's always a good conversation starter. 55 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 2: All right, we live in San Diego. 56 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 3: Yes, I live in San Diego. I moved there back 57 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 3: in February with Jess from the show. I'm actually in 58 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 3: North Carolina. I'm visiting my family right now. 59 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 1: But are you in Charlotte? Are you in Charlotte. 60 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 3: I'm in Charlotte. Yes, born and raised here. 61 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: I did my research. 62 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:14,559 Speaker 2: My ex husbands from Charlotte. 63 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 3: Oh no, if I see him, I'll give him the 64 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 3: evil eye if that's which. 65 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,079 Speaker 2: Oh no, No, we're good friends here, but that's where 66 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 2: we love them. 67 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 3: But yeah, no, definitely going to settle back in Charlotte 68 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 3: one day. 69 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 2: All right, tell me about life in San Diego. That's 70 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 2: like the best climate on the universe. 71 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 3: Oh, my god, it is literally paradise on earth. The 72 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 3: only thing that kind of would not allow me to 73 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 3: stay there forever is because my family is back in Charlotte. 74 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 3: But San Diego has been great to me thus far. 75 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 3: I enjoy my work so much there. I'm still a 76 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 3: post part nurse, so I take care of all the 77 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 3: new mamas and babies. 78 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:52,839 Speaker 1: I was impressed you got on the day shift. When 79 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: you move there, can. 80 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 3: You tell me about that. I want to say I'm 81 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 3: a unicorn because you are. 82 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: You are unicorn one, so I know I know you 83 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: loved taking my daughter had a baby in the nick 84 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: you for and and the post part of nurses. Let 85 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: me just hats off to all of you out there. 86 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: You guys are amazing. You don't you know? You know 87 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 1: what a new mother is like, and you guys do 88 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 1: an admirable job. So the next time I have the baby, 89 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 1: which will be the twelfth Comember, I'm coming to you 90 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 1: in her next life. 91 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 3: I will take such good care of you. 92 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 1: Pay Okay, we got to get to the big tea 93 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 1: here though, because we got a lot to come up. 94 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: I want to be caught upon your day with I 95 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: know because I listened that you told Joe and Serena 96 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: that the door was still open for you, and is it. 97 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 3: This information is still very new and raw, and this 98 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 3: has been something This has been the first platform, or 99 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 3: even really the first big conversation I've had about this. 100 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 3: So I might get a little emotional. So we're here 101 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 3: for you. 102 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:04,919 Speaker 1: We're here for you. 103 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just a lot. It has been a six 104 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 3: month period post show too unpacked, and I don't even 105 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 3: know if mentally I'm fully like kind of subttled with it, 106 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 3: but I'm want to do the best I can today. 107 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 3: So recently, even and I decided to part ways. So 108 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 3: we'll start by saying the door is closed. There's a 109 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 3: lot he'd gone forever, and that's something I'm still coping. Like. 110 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 3: That's a big reason why I'm here with my family, 111 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 3: just because, like I said, it's been a year of 112 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 3: him and I but the six months post me finding 113 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 3: out of his infidelity has just been so hard. And 114 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 3: although everyone, especially on the internet, has told me, Kylie 115 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 3: like you deserve better, it's time to walk away, that's 116 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 3: still a lot easier said than done, especially when you 117 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 3: love someone so much like I did. Even and so 118 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 3: I think right now I'm just in my healing era 119 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 3: and trying to find the ability just to kind of 120 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 3: have my own life in San Diego, which is Kylie 121 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 3: her being single, and just kind of settling with myself 122 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 3: and being by myself. 123 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 1: I want to say, when I listened to you talking 124 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: on Serena and Joe's podcast, a couple of things I 125 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: just want to say. And I said this before. I 126 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: said it to Susan because she listened to most of 127 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 1: it but missed this part. You said that you know 128 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,359 Speaker 1: the drawer, if you could do the work. You said 129 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: all these things, And I said to Susan, she doesn't 130 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 1: know it yet, but the door is closed, did I not? Susan? 131 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 1: You said, you said, and you you could, You just 132 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 1: didn't know it yet. But we are happy for you 133 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 1: that you are a sure beautiful lady, and the fact 134 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:06,600 Speaker 1: that you've made a decision that works for you is 135 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: I mean, what else can you say? Yeah, it's going 136 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: to take time to heal. 137 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I wish like that. I think what I've been 138 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 3: saying to everyone. I wish I could close my eyes 139 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 3: and blinked. A couple of months ago, a month, a 140 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 3: couple of months from now. Excuse me, because I just 141 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 3: want to I want to be healed already. I'm tired 142 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 3: of being sad, but I know that just takes time. 143 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 3: This is my first ever heartbreak. I've never been in 144 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 3: love before or honestly had a real relationship. 145 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: How old are you again, Kylie? 146 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 2: Twenty six, twenty six, twenty six, Kylie, would you mind 147 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 2: sharing what happened? 148 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 3: Yeah? So, after finding about the infidelity, I was like, Okay, 149 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 3: I don't think I can beat with this man any longer. 150 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 2: I don't just a one time flinger. Was it a relationship? 151 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 3: Like so, post finding out, it was a period of 152 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 3: She's trying to mend that trust back and to kind 153 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 3: of get back to where we once were. And I 154 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 3: will say in the beginning, he was doing the work, 155 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 3: he was going to therapy, he was ensuring that my 156 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 3: move to San Diego went smoothly, and he was there 157 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 3: for me and he was providing for me. And it 158 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 3: was great. But I will be one hundred percent honest, 159 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 3: I'm human, and there was still a small part of 160 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 3: me that was holding back. I wanted yeah, yeah, yeah, 161 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 3: And so I was hoping. I was like, hey, please 162 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 3: just give him grace, Like I know I can get 163 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 3: to where I was before. I just need time. And 164 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:43,719 Speaker 3: then also too, I was in this mental battle of 165 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 3: moving to a new place. I want to say that 166 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 3: I moved for myself and for the new experience, but 167 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 3: a big part of my reasoning behind them was for him, 168 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 3: of course, And so I was trying to cope with 169 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 3: the fact that I was my I was away from 170 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 3: my family, not knowing anyone, I was starting a completely 171 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 3: new job. I was just simply trying to get my footing, 172 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 3: plus battling with minding a relationship that was so broken. 173 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 3: So I was just on the outside, I was like, Okay, 174 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 3: I'm good, it's fine. But on the inside, I was 175 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 3: really battling with a lot and I didn't think it 176 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:26,679 Speaker 3: was noticeable, but unfortunately it kind of took a toll 177 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 3: on him in a sense of putting it. He felt 178 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 3: as though he was putting in all of this work, 179 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 3: but a lot of what I was doing wasn't like 180 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 3: reciprocating all the luck that he was giving me. 181 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: If that makes sense. 182 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, So about a month ago we had a big 183 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 3: tough conversation, him kind of expressing to me, Hey, I'm 184 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 3: doing all this, I want this to work, but I 185 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 3: still feel like you're holding back. I don't know if 186 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 3: this is going to work anymore. I think that was 187 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 3: kind of my like punching the like, oh, my good call, 188 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,719 Speaker 3: Like if you want to be with him, you need 189 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 3: to be with him. You need to really put things 190 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 3: into gear and try to make this work and give 191 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 3: him one hundred percent like he's been giving you. And 192 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 3: so that was actually our one year or one year 193 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 3: from meeting from Paradise with that week, and we had 194 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 3: already planned like a little yeah, we had already planned 195 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 3: like a little getaway to Malibu, and so I was like, even, 196 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 3: I know you're pretty close off right now, but please 197 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 3: just give it some time. Let's go to Malibu. Let's 198 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 3: see if we can kind of rekindle what we've lost. 199 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 3: We had a great time in Malibu. I honestly feel 200 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 3: as though I felt like I did when I was 201 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 3: first meeting him three weeks after that, like it was 202 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 3: really really good. I was so excited, like I almost 203 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 3: had that gidea feeling back. And another thing that I 204 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 3: was mentally kind of going back and forth with is 205 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 3: at some point I have to make this relationship public again. 206 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 3: And what was hording me back from that? It was like, 207 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 3: I know the public scrutiny that's going to come from 208 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 3: doing that, and so before I do that, I need 209 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 3: to know for a fact he's my man, and I'm 210 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 3: sticking beside him. 211 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: You're saying this is it's either in or out because 212 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: we can't go back and do this. Yeah, yeah, right right, Siam. 213 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 3: And so I what that three weeks I was thinking, sorry, no, no, 214 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 3: it's it's just it's not because you're old. 215 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: No, I just mouth everyone is lead, I said. She 216 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:31,439 Speaker 1: called me, ma'am, I mouth that, and she said, exactly 217 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 1: what all beautiful young and trust me, this girl is 218 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: gorgeous by the way, I just say just I don't 219 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: want to interrupt, but I just want to say, if 220 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: this is what you look like grieving a relationship and 221 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: in your healing error, I want to find a guide 222 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:49,439 Speaker 1: just to break up with him, because you are glowing, 223 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: You are beautiful, You are no truly, you are gorgeous. 224 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 2: I do have a personal question, though sometimes you can, 225 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 2: you can forgive somebody the trust, right was it in 226 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:14,839 Speaker 2: your head you were thinking I couldn't handle him making 227 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 2: a fool out of me again and doing it a 228 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 2: second time. 229 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 3: Are you talking in regards to like making the relationship 230 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 3: public again, why I was kind of weary. 231 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: It's different dating in public. It's a whole different thing. 232 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 2: Certainly. 233 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 3: Well, I will say I do have a little bit 234 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 3: of PTSD because the last time I went public with him, 235 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 3: my world literally shattered in front of me. I definitely 236 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 3: trust trusted him, and still trust him now, just because 237 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 3: I saw the shift and energy that he was giving, 238 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 3: and I honestly think his world was rocked so badly 239 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:50,560 Speaker 3: with everything that he would ever do that, not only 240 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 3: to me, but to anyone else. So I so the 241 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 3: three weeks went great. I was like, Okay, I'm about 242 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 3: to go public with him. I need to prove to him, 243 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 3: even though like I feel like I didn't it wasn't 244 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 3: really my responsibility to prove to him. But I was like, 245 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 3: I want to make this work. And so right it 246 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 3: was fourth of July week, so this is really fresh, 247 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 3: and I was so excited because Jess was going home 248 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 3: back to Florida, and so I was going to be 249 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 3: in San Diego basically by myself, and I was like, 250 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 3: we're gonna have the best week together, like it's going 251 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:28,439 Speaker 3: to feel like normal. And I went to Austin Texas 252 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 3: with some of the Bachelor girls. So I get back 253 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 3: from Austin, Texas, and I could just feel like this 254 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 3: like energy ship, this nership. He was acting very try, 255 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 3: he just wasn't himself. So I get home. We have 256 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 3: a big, long conversation and he chose to end thinks 257 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 3: he said. 258 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:51,679 Speaker 1: Okay, we're both sitting there with our mouths hanging open. 259 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:55,079 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I'm going to get a little emotional. I 260 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 3: know it's okay. 261 00:13:56,280 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: So he just OK, it's okay, yeah, crime for you. 262 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 3: I just it's still so fresh, but he's yeah. I honestly, 263 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 3: I honestly was so. Yes, I was a little shocked, 264 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 3: just because we had this com We had the same 265 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 3: conversation about him month ago, but then we were doing 266 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 3: so good, and he kept emphasizing in the month that 267 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 3: we were doing so well, Like, honestly, Kylie, like I 268 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 3: see things going far with us. It started it feels 269 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:34,359 Speaker 3: like it did back then. So I was shocked. I yeah, 270 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 3: it was definitely a tough conversation. I don't really want 271 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 3: to speak for him for him, but basically what he 272 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 3: had to say was some days he felt he would 273 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 3: wake up and he would think he had such great 274 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 3: hope for us, think that we could get to where 275 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 3: we needed to be to have a friend future together. 276 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 3: And then other days he woke up and he was 277 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 3: just like, there's so much damage that I have done personally. 278 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 3: I don't think our relationship will ever recover from that. 279 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 3: And he said that I didn't deserve someone who was 280 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 3: unsure about me, and that's why he was taking a 281 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 3: step back. So I was screaming, crying, throwing up. I 282 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 3: booked a flight to North Carolina to see my mom 283 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 3: because when you're sad the person, and so a couple 284 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 3: of days later, I am still in the healing process. 285 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 3: But I will say there were days where I was like, 286 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 3: I don't know how I'm going to survive this, Like 287 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 3: this pain and his hurt is so heavy. But just 288 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 3: looking back at those days and how I'm feeling currently, 289 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 3: I'm like, I can do this. 290 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: Yes, that's what I want to hear. 291 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 2: You can. You can. 292 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: You can look at us. We just said in Unis 293 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: and Kylie, you can and you will. 294 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 2: See time time heals, it does heal, and you've learned. 295 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 1: Have you learned? Let me ask you this, I can 296 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: see the hurt as beautiful as you are. I can 297 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: see you're hurting, and I'm so sorry you're hurting, and 298 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: it's easy to say, it's easy to say, time will heal. 299 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: I look at you and my daughter and her heart 300 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: broken almost very identical, almost identical to you, So you know, 301 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: it makes me almost start crying because I remember what 302 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: she went through and she's happily, very nice. You know, 303 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: But you you do you feel like you learned enough 304 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 1: that you can move on in a way that made 305 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 1: it all valuable. Because I hope that's the case. 306 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 3: Oh absolutely. I think there is a reason and a 307 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 3: purpose for everything. Like I said, this was, I think 308 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 3: I learned how to love. I've never really been with 309 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 3: someone who I've given my everything to, and I was 310 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 3: always scared because in my past, like situationships of things, 311 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 3: I felt as though I was constantly looking for something 312 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 3: or someone a little bit better. So I was like, 313 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 3: am I always going to have that feeling? Like? Am 314 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 3: I ever just not going to settle down like that 315 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 3: scares me? And I said, I'm in time again with Avan. 316 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 3: It was like justin Bieber, the love of my life, 317 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 3: who I've loved since I was a child, if he 318 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 3: came up to me and I was with Avan At 319 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 3: that time, I probably would have been like, no, Justin Bieber, 320 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 3: I don't want you. I'm with Evan Jels. 321 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 2: So so you felt real love. That's what it is. 322 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:21,479 Speaker 1: Yes, you know. I hope that you settle on the 323 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 1: I hope you think about all the positives, the you know, 324 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:27,880 Speaker 1: the family you have that loves you, the people who 325 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 1: love you, the future you have. I know that all 326 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 1: probably sounds trit right now. 327 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 2: It does, yeah, right when you're nothing. 328 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 3: So yeah, nothing makes it easier, I will say, but 329 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 3: like my god, it well he's OK, Dad, so someone else. 330 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:53,679 Speaker 3: But I find a strength in knowing that just a 331 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 3: couple of days ago, I was barely able to get 332 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 3: out of bed and don't want to talk to anyone, 333 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 3: like I just wanted to be by myself and my thoughts. 334 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 3: And here I am today, like I put makeupond. I'm 335 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 3: talking to you guys, so. 336 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 2: Like you are a beautiful young woman. 337 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: You are you, and I will tell you before because 338 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 1: I had written all these questions. After listening to your podcast, 339 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 1: I was enthralled by you and your story and you 340 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 1: were so mature and I thought, oh my gosh, I 341 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 1: can't wait to meet this beautiful young lady, and here 342 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: you are. And I will say to you, based on 343 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 1: what I have listened to and heard you say, it's 344 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 1: probably not going to make you feel better. But I 345 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 1: promise you, honey, you are going to be fine. You 346 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: are going to be You are going to survive triumphantly. 347 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,640 Speaker 1: You're going to move forward in a life you will. 348 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 2: You go through anger and son, you know, and then 349 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 2: you get stronger. We all have gone through it. That 350 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 2: broken hearts, that is you know. 351 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 1: And I remember my first love to you, Susan, Yes, absolutely, 352 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: and he Aiden was your first love, right, her first 353 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 1: real love. That's your first real love. 354 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 3: Oh, it was my first real love. 355 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. You will always carry a piece of them with 356 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:10,679 Speaker 1: you and that it's going to make you a richer, 357 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: lovely human being. It's it's it's just you know, you 358 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 1: take these pieces in your life and it fills your heart. 359 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:22,640 Speaker 2: I hate expression, but what doesn't kill you makes you stronger. 360 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 2: He's going to be a lot strongs. 361 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,919 Speaker 3: At the end of the day. He has caused a 362 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 3: lot of hurt in my life. I was even since 363 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:33,919 Speaker 3: like the beginning when we were in Paradise together and 364 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 3: I so was like longing for him just to make 365 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 3: that commitment to me and he couldn't, and just after 366 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 3: that it's been a ripple effect. But I don't have 367 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 3: any hate in my heart towards him. I know he's 368 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 3: a good person and I know he wants to be 369 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:51,919 Speaker 3: a good person and it he'll be that that person 370 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:54,919 Speaker 3: for someone else, just not me. Uh, And I'm like, 371 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:56,879 Speaker 3: I wish him nothing but the best. 372 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 2: Do you truly? 373 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: It's a do you truly leave? I know? Today? Is it? Truly? 374 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: The door is shut? Like there's no no I just 375 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 1: I just think, I mean, never say never. 376 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 3: But at this point there has just almost like what 377 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 3: you said, there has been so much damage that's done 378 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 3: and we both in different portions of the relationship have 379 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 3: like given it are all and unfortunately it wasn't reciprocated back. 380 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 3: So I just I don't see a world where that happens. 381 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 3: But like I said, everything happens for a reason. So 382 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,879 Speaker 3: later down the road we find ways back together, then great. 383 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 2: But I just think right now, if it was meant 384 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 2: to be, some people say it'll be, but right now 385 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 2: you do you? 386 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 3: Yes? So yeah, I am right, Like I'm a fish. 387 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 3: I'm so excited because I feel like my san Diego 388 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 3: experience so far has been consumed with like our relationship, 389 00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 3: but I want to genuinely enjoy San Diego and build 390 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 3: a life for myself out there and my own life. Yeah, 391 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 3: so I decided to kind of hit the ground running 392 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 3: with that. 393 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 1: So I want to know, did your family like him? 394 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:14,160 Speaker 3: My family was obsessed with him prior to everything happening, 395 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:20,159 Speaker 3: and then even after the fact, my mom especially obviously 396 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 3: she was kind of over hurt because she saw how 397 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 3: her eye was, but she was still his biggest cheerleader 398 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 3: because she knew at the end of the day how 399 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:29,640 Speaker 3: happy he made me and how much I loved him. 400 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 3: So although she didn't necessarily agree with all of the 401 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 3: things that he had done, she was willing to kind 402 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 3: of move past that if I was willing to move 403 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:40,919 Speaker 3: past it. 404 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 2: And how is she right this moment? 405 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,880 Speaker 3: She is very sad for me. I feel so bad 406 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 3: for her because I'm like, Mom, I've taken like ten 407 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 3: years off of your life from all the things I've 408 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 3: put you through. Because she felt like when I'm sad, 409 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 3: she feels it so deeply and so yeah, and you 410 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 3: being so far away from her, She's just like, I 411 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 3: can't be there, so She's like, if you want to 412 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 3: come home right this second, we'll figure out a way. Like, 413 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 3: if you it's unbearable for you to live there, you 414 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 3: can come back home. But I don't want. I want 415 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 3: to do this for myself. I don't want to live 416 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:19,160 Speaker 3: into because and. 417 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,679 Speaker 1: You know what that's going to stretch you and Aiden. 418 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,400 Speaker 1: I mean, San Diego's a big enough place. You don't 419 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 1: need to run into each other. 420 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:27,639 Speaker 3: Right exactly exactly? 421 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: Do you have plans? I know you want to make 422 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: the most of it, and those are all great catch phrases. 423 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: You know, I'm going to live my best life and 424 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 1: all that. Are you actively going to make plans of 425 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: things you can do to rebuild your life and tell 426 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 1: me about it? 427 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 2: Taking time? 428 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I think right now I'm taking it minute 429 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 3: by minute, not even a day at a time. But 430 00:22:58,359 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 3: I do you want to go back to school and 431 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 3: get my masters? I plan to do that. I was 432 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 3: gonna to become a nurse practitioner, so I'm jumping back 433 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 3: into school to do that. I want to do midwife 434 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:15,159 Speaker 3: three school so where I can actually deliver the damies myself. 435 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,679 Speaker 3: So that's kind of take a toll on my social life. 436 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,679 Speaker 3: But I'm very excited to kind of build my career. 437 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:25,679 Speaker 3: I think at some point I'm going to have to 438 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 3: put myself back out their relationship. 439 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 2: Wise, my next question, Yeah, what do you think that 440 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 2: will be. 441 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: On your side? 442 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 3: Yeah? 443 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 1: Time on your side. Yeah. 444 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 3: I also know the self though, So it's kind of 445 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,719 Speaker 3: if you get married early, you have kids early, and 446 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 3: that's just what you do. So I want that. 447 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: Now you're but now you're a surfer girl in San 448 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: Diego and the rules are different. Yeah. 449 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,880 Speaker 3: Now I'm on the West coast, so I can later. 450 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 2: But true, well, would you ever go back on Paradise? 451 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:08,439 Speaker 3: Oh my god. Okay, so it's all the announcement that 452 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 3: it's coming in twenty twenty five, and. 453 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 2: Now I thought it was going to be a golden one. Geez, 454 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 2: you know. 455 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 3: Okay, you guys can join like you can. 456 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Susan, can you see this Kathy with a 457 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 1: one piece? I'll be a you know, a one piece 458 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: that has a skirt of taps so no one has 459 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 1: to look at my thighs and this girl adorable bikini. 460 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: Oh god, that would be a horror show. 461 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 2: I would. 462 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 3: I live despite everything, I lived my best life in Paradise, 463 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 3: and if they asked me to go back tomorrow, I 464 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 3: would pack my bags and I would take a flight 465 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 3: to Mexico and live my best life once again. So 466 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 3: I would definitely go back if asked. 467 00:24:54,960 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 1: Good. I think this girl, you may feel like you're 468 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: living minute to minute, but you know what your answer 469 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 1: just told me. You have a heart and you want 470 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 1: to share it with someone. I like it. I like it. 471 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 1: I like it. Okay, well she's going to paradise, Susan. 472 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: You and I. You know, I'm going to be a 473 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,479 Speaker 1: chambermaid and you're going to be like a prep in 474 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 1: the kitchen. And there it is. I said to ask, 475 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: did you get a new hairstyle? 476 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 3: I did so I cut my hair. She is officially 477 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:32,159 Speaker 3: a new woman. Like six inches of baggage that was 478 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 3: weighing down is no longer there. So I think this 479 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,160 Speaker 3: is just a fresh start to my new life. 480 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:42,120 Speaker 2: I love it, absolutely amazing. At any man, any man 481 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,880 Speaker 2: is going to be begging to get your attention. 482 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 1: You are truly beautiful. All right, we do this thing 483 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 1: where we get some questions and then we give some advice. 484 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: Will you join us when you give your advice, because 485 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 1: clearly you're a smart woman. 486 00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 2: Ladies, and gentleman advice with Kyle. 487 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,400 Speaker 1: There we go, All right, here we go. This first 488 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: one is from Tracy. She's forty one from Seattle, Washington. Hello, 489 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 1: Kathy and Susan and Kylie. I recently started dating a 490 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: new guy and he's everything I've wanted for so long. 491 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 1: The thing is, he's twenty nine and I'm forty one. 492 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,400 Speaker 1: We have been together for six months and have met 493 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,679 Speaker 1: each other's family and friends, and it's all gone better 494 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 1: than all my past relationships have gone. But my concern 495 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:36,159 Speaker 1: is we might be on different timelines for having kids 496 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 1: and getting married. He's a serious guy when it comes 497 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: to dating and seems ready to find the one. I 498 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,239 Speaker 1: just would need to move very quickly if kids are 499 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 1: in our future. I've always dreamed about being a mom, 500 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 1: but I'm not sure if it's too early to bring 501 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 1: that up since we've only been together six months. I 502 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 1: also don't want to waste either of our time. Let 503 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 1: me know if you have any thought or advice on 504 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,639 Speaker 1: how I should go about this. Thank you so much, 505 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 1: Go Kylie? What do you think? 506 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 3: Juicy? So? My first thing is age is just a number. 507 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 3: If he makes you happy and checks all of your boxes, 508 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:16,160 Speaker 3: why not, I will say, you don't like you said, 509 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 3: you don't want to waste your time or his time. 510 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 3: So it's important to have these conversations because they're big 511 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:25,440 Speaker 3: conversations and they could set the trajectory of your relationship. 512 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 3: So kind of just rip the band aid off, girlfriend, 513 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 3: ask him those questions, even though it's going to be 514 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 3: a little bit nerve racking. 515 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 2: Months six months while you get to know Wody in 516 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 2: six months. Yeah, why are your future pla right? 517 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:42,159 Speaker 3: Yeah. 518 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 1: Susan, who who married my son and his wife back 519 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 1: in March, officiated it. They talked about everything on the 520 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 1: first date, first date. 521 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 2: First date. 522 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:54,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot. 523 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 3: That's a lot. 524 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 2: Six months and they're married and they should have that conversation. 525 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 3: She doesn't want to waste six more months with him, 526 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 3: and that's not something he's wanting, so I. 527 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 1: Say, have it, yeah, because I guess if he doesn't 528 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 1: want kids. 529 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 2: We're all in agreement. Big see Tracy communicate all right. 530 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 2: The next one's from Nora. She's thirty two from Switzerland, 531 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:21,640 Speaker 2: San Diego. Do you know where that is? 532 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 1: I don't think I think she's dual. I think she 533 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: lives in Switzerland part time in San Diego, part time. 534 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 3: Oh make sense? 535 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 2: Okay, High Golden Gals. My husband and I have been 536 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:37,120 Speaker 2: together since twenty seventeen and we got married in twenty nineteen. 537 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 2: I am originally from Switzerland and we live in San 538 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 2: Diego now, which is where we met. I was here 539 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 2: for university when we first met got married. I thought 540 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 2: I would be okay living in the US with him 541 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 2: for the rest of my life, but now I'm feeling 542 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 2: really called to move back to be close to my family. 543 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 2: My sister just had her first baby, and I feel 544 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 2: like I'm missing everything. I also can't imagine not having 545 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 2: kids near them. My husband has always said he can't 546 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 2: move overseas due to his work, and now we are 547 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 2: in a real bind. We love each other very much, 548 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 2: but we can't seem to come to an agreement on 549 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 2: where to live. I know people say to talk about 550 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 2: this before getting married, but I was younger then and 551 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 2: have just changed my mind about being so close to 552 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 2: my family. Do you have any advice on what I 553 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 2: should do. No one has technically given an ultimatum, but 554 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 2: if I move that will likely be the end of 555 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 2: our marriage. Any thoughts are appreciated. Wow, that's hard, that's 556 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 2: your person. I love with him. 557 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know there is once. 558 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 2: In a while. 559 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but I know of her experiences and because 560 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 3: even and I had this battle because I wanted to 561 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 3: live in Charlotte and he never saw him lif moving 562 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 3: from the West Coast, and so I just kept thinking that, Okay, 563 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 3: we're going to be together. He's going to love me 564 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 3: enough to want to do that, And so I did. 565 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 2: That's what you were thinking deep down? 566 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was like, yeah, if he loves me enough, 567 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 3: he would. And she already made that sacrifice to live 568 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 3: in San Diego and moved to the States with him 569 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 3: for a little bit. Why can't help me that? 570 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, they met No, no, no, he's from city. 571 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 1: They met there. She sorts and went to school there. Now, 572 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 1: her daughters had, her sisters had a baby. She was 573 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 1: she's it's kind of like. 574 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 2: You really can't go because of his career. 575 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 1: This this is the Kylie Show, except that she's married 576 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 1: to this guy and he doesn't want to So you 577 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 1: know what I say, I think I think they got 578 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 1: married young and they didn't really think it through. 579 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 2: That's passed. Like, what does she do now? That's what 580 00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 2: she's asking, Well, Kylie, go home and if you love 581 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 2: him enough, I stay right by his side, right. 582 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't have any advice for her because I 583 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 3: was literally her and I am moved, and I moved, 584 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 3: but I was struggling with the fact in a couple 585 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 3: of years when I started a family with my own, 586 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 3: I want to be near my family. I want my 587 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 3: parents to help raising my kids. 588 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 1: So I think you guys are both living I think 589 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 1: you're both living in a dream world. I think many 590 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 1: marriages have broken up because the wife or you know, 591 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 1: one or the other is like I love this, you know, 592 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 1: like you just said, Kylie, you've lived in San Diego 593 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 1: for a time, but you want to be back in Charlotte. 594 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 1: And there's nothing wrong with that. I just don't think 595 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 1: she gave it enough. Thought she was young, she was nineteen. Uh, 596 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 1: she's now thirty two. She got married very young, and 597 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 1: people change. I don't know. 598 00:31:55,760 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 2: I was away with Dickie when he was playing ball. 599 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 2: We had our children in Texas. 600 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 1: And you moved back to Hilly and you moved and 601 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 1: she got divorced three years later. Though, Well she's thirty two. 602 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 1: She met this guy when she was nineteen, and now 603 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 1: they're divorced. You know, I don't know. You know what 604 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 1: my husband and I did, Kylie. We didn't live in 605 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 1: We didn't live in either place. My husband was from 606 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 1: New York State. I was from Massachusetts. He was a 607 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 1: military officer initially, so we moved around and that's how 608 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 1: we got to Texas. He went to grad school in Boston, 609 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 1: and we picked a place that neither of us had 610 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 1: ever lived. And can I tell you it was fair? 611 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 1: But I missed so much of my family. I missed 612 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 1: out on so many things I did. 613 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 2: But life, that's a choice. 614 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I made that choice. But I'm just saying, 615 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 1: you missed. You know, you can't have it all. 616 00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 2: Do you regret it? 617 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 1: No? No, I don't. But I'm being honest. It's you know, 618 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 1: we're not living in you know, Disneyland here. I did. 619 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 1: I did miss him. I mean I did miss my 620 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:13,239 Speaker 1: Palma one. 621 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 2: I don't wish. 622 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 1: I don't know what. 623 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 2: Look at you, Kylie. You made that move mostly for him, 624 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 2: because of him. But now you're standing on your own 625 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 2: two feet. You're getting more of your career off the ground. Yes, 626 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 2: to be a nurse practitioner, go to school, figure out out. 627 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, I want you because you know Susan and I 628 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 1: are the czars here. We want you to focus on building. 629 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 1: You're already beautiful. You don't have to work on that. 630 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 1: You're beautiful inside and out. Build your life, go to school, 631 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:53,479 Speaker 1: live your life. I'm getting goosebumps because I know what 632 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 1: your future is. I know what your future is, so 633 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 1: it's going to be amazing. And I want you to 634 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 1: come back when Susan and I are in wheelchairs still 635 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 1: doing this podcast and tell us I want you to 636 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,360 Speaker 1: name your first child Kathy and your second one Susan. 637 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 2: You guys are going to be annoy the wedding, so 638 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 2: I don't know do the wedding. 639 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 1: I don't appreciate the wedding. 640 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 3: Is officiating and Kathy, you're going to be one of 641 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:18,799 Speaker 3: our dreds. 642 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 1: Okay, So I have one more question for you. 643 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,240 Speaker 2: Is there anything that you'd like to say from here 644 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 2: to bachclination before we go? Yes? 645 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 3: I know, yeah, So first off, I just want to 646 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 3: think bacheloration because they have stuck by my side through 647 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,360 Speaker 3: everything and they've kind of given me that tough advice 648 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,760 Speaker 3: that I needed to hear. Even though sometimes I don't 649 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 3: necessarily want to hear it, I know I can sometimes 650 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 3: be annoying on television with all of the tears and 651 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 3: the back and forth, but they've stuck beside me, and 652 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,840 Speaker 3: for that I'm forever grateful. I hope this is not 653 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,359 Speaker 3: the last of what you see of me Vachlination, and 654 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,360 Speaker 3: I hope that one day good to see that happy, 655 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 3: ever love story that I think I deserve, You do deserve. 656 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:09,439 Speaker 1: Can I just say you deserve happiness, you deserve love. 657 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 1: On the Golden Bachelor, that was the whole thing. Everyone 658 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,960 Speaker 1: deserves love, do you hear me? Kylie? Everyone deserves love 659 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 1: and to be loved. So we're rooting for you, and 660 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:24,759 Speaker 1: unfortunately that's gonna do it for this episode. Now. 661 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:26,879 Speaker 2: I love welcome with you, We. 662 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 1: Love talking to you, but that does it for this 663 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:33,880 Speaker 1: episode of Bachelor, Happy Hours, Golden Hour, and Kylie, really 664 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 1: thank you so much. You gave great advice, and really 665 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 1: thank you for sharing your story and letting being so 666 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 1: truthful and honest. It's just you're a lovely, lovely person. 667 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 2: We love getting the chat with you, and you know what, 668 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 2: we're very proud of you. Thank you. 669 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 3: I'm I'm yourself some of you, and thank you for 670 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 3: all of the advice as well. 671 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 2: Absolutely and thank everybody for joining us today, and make 672 00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,879 Speaker 2: sure to follow Bachelor Happy Hour as we have new 673 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:04,239 Speaker 2: episodes coming out every week that you might not want 674 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:04,760 Speaker 2: to miss. 675 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 1: Definitely you don't want to miss it. And make sure 676 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 1: you submit your questions to us. It's really easy. It's 677 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 1: really easy. It's easier than getting a date. 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