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Speaker 1: This is the Huddle every Thursday from Mune to two.

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Speaker 1: The Huddle.

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Speaker 2: You are listening to the huddle.

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Speaker 3: We've got a two hour preview of Seahawks forty nine

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Speaker 3: ers coming your way.

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Speaker 2: And it starts right now.

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Speaker 3: Dave Whyman joining Michael Bumpus and myself. We're gonna have

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Speaker 3: Drey Jones joining us in just a couple of minutes

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Speaker 3: before we do. We have a new linebacker to talk about,

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Speaker 3: kind of Tyrese Knight now presumably starting Wyman. What have

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Speaker 3: you seen from him so far in very limited appearances

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Speaker 3: and what do you make of the move?

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Speaker 4: Well, here's the thing.

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Speaker 5: He makes lots and lots of tackles and that's what

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Speaker 5: when he was drafted, that's what That's what Mike McDonald

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Speaker 5: talked about, you know, and we had that for years

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Speaker 5: with Bobby Wagner. He's still doing it, so you know,

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Speaker 5: I just I'm hoping that more of them are going

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Speaker 5: to be, you know, more towards the line of scrimmage,

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Speaker 5: and you know, and I just think, you know, with him,

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Speaker 5: I feel like you can kind of.

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Speaker 4: Mold him a little bit.

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Speaker 5: One of the things which Dodson I thought was a

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Speaker 5: I thought he was a he's fun.

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Speaker 4: To watch man.

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Speaker 5: He's so fast, but there are so many times where

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Speaker 5: he gets his shoulders turned, and there's lots of times

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Speaker 5: where he just buries himself and you know, and I

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Speaker 5: don't want to sit here and you know, rip him

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Speaker 5: or anything, because I think he's a good linebacker and

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Speaker 5: he can become a good linebacker. It's just some of

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Speaker 5: the fundamental things. And I think that's that's kind of

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Speaker 5: what Tyree Knight. I'm going to need to see him

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Speaker 5: take on blockers a little bit more and a little

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Speaker 5: bit more stout at the point of attack. But I

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Speaker 5: think they have that down. And like I said, with

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Speaker 5: Ernest Jones in there, it's kind of like he makes

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Speaker 5: taking on blocks cool again. So it will hopefully, you know,

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Speaker 5: we'll see Tyrese. You know, like I said, it's kind

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Speaker 5: of like, you know, if you get a golf lesson,

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Speaker 5: it's better if you don't know anything, right, Yeah, And

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Speaker 5: you know, you can kind of the coach can kind

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Speaker 5: of take you through from the very beginning instead of

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Speaker 5: developing all these bad habits. And I feel like that's

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Speaker 5: kind of what Tyres Knight will be like. And we

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Speaker 5: know Mike McDonald is going to be hovering over that position, right,

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Speaker 5: because that's.

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Speaker 4: Kind of his you know, of expertise.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Bump, how do you feel about this change happening

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Speaker 3: right before a game against the forty nine ers who've

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Speaker 3: kind of had your number?

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Speaker 6: I think if they made this change, it was for

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Speaker 6: a reason because they weren't getting enough out of that position.

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Speaker 7: And forget the timing.

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Speaker 6: The time, The right time is the time you make

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Speaker 6: the decision if you feel like, wow, something needs.

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Speaker 8: To be made like that, right, Deeve, I'm a deep thinker.

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Speaker 8: I'm a deep thinker. It's the right time to do it.

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Speaker 8: And I'm with Dave.

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Speaker 6: I said I think a couple of days ago that

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Speaker 6: he's a rookie, so whatever the coach says is gospel.

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Speaker 7: It's the laws, the truth.

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Speaker 6: Right, Like you don't have those bad habits that Dave

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Speaker 6: talked about, and you get to learn from Ernest Jones,

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Speaker 6: who plays the position. I would assume Dave, the way

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Speaker 6: you feel like it should be played more downhill, getting

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Speaker 6: your hands on guys, shedding blocks. He just brings a

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Speaker 6: different type of energy. So if I'm paired of it,

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Speaker 6: was like when I was paired with Bobby Ingram. Bobby

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Speaker 6: Ingram was the best slot receiver I ever played with.

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Speaker 6: So I'm watching Bobby's every move, like, how does he

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Speaker 6: do that. He's not the fastest, he's not the biggest,

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Speaker 6: is not the strongest, but he's finding ways to get open.

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Speaker 6: I'm the same type of player. Let me learn from him.

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Speaker 6: I think Knight would do the same thing.

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Speaker 3: You know whyman, I sure wish for many reasons that

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Speaker 3: the Seahawks would have come away from that Rams game

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Speaker 3: with a win, but one of them is because the

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Speaker 3: defense did look better. I mean, it was a pretty

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Speaker 2: What did you see?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought, for the first time really showed up.

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Speaker 5: And I think he's been playing well, but Leonard big

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Speaker 5: Kat Williams, I thought, for the first time showed up,

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Speaker 5: as like, this is why we paid all this money

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Speaker 5: to him, because the pressure that he put on Stafford,

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Speaker 5: And then just you know, in the run game, they

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Speaker 5: it was under well under a hundred. So yeah, I

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Speaker 5: thought I thought that stood out, and I thought Ernest

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Speaker 5: Jones and his physicality showed up. One play by Ernest

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Speaker 5: Jones made me really like. I was like, I ran

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Speaker 5: it back a number of times. He runs under a

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Speaker 5: when you in other words, he deserts his gap.

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Speaker 4: He's supposed to go over the top of the guard.

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Speaker 5: He goes behind him, but then he cuts back inside

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Speaker 5: and makes the tackle. And you can do that when

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Speaker 5: you know, if you run under a block, the saying

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Speaker 5: is you better make the tackle. Yeah, and so yeah,

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Speaker 5: because you're basically you're deserting the rest of the defense

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Speaker 5: and their principles and everything. And so you know, I thought, wow,

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Speaker 5: that's a guy who is a veteran, because I remember

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Speaker 5: the first year I showed up in Denver, it was

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Speaker 5: my seventh year, and I ran under a block and

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Speaker 5: made a tackle and the coach was like, you can't

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Speaker 5: do that, and I'm like, I made the tackle.

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Speaker 2: On time.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I said, I promise you I'll never I

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Speaker 5: won't do that. At least I'll try not to do

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Speaker 5: that if I can't make a tackle. And that just

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Speaker 5: a judgment call. Really, it's it's like it's experience. It's like, hey,

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Speaker 5: I know I can get there after all of these reps,

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Speaker 5: and so Jones, you know, I think he really showed that.

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Speaker 4: But those are two guys that really stood out to

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Speaker 3: Bump Drey Jones, who's walking over now may interrupt your answer,

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Speaker 3: but feel free to keep going against San Francisco. Considering

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Speaker 3: all that we saw from the defense and ways that

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Speaker 3: they improved. Which player group is going to be facing

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Speaker 7: Oh, from the offense.

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Speaker 6: From the offense, the defensive line, app box man, I

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Speaker 6: mean everyone is because they have a pair Sool I

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Speaker 6: think is a good receiver. They got George Kudaho challenge

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Speaker 6: to safety, you have Jwan Jennings who just came off

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Speaker 6: a big game.

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Speaker 7: Everyone's going to face it.

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Speaker 6: But when it comes down to the fundamentals of football,

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Speaker 6: it's those guys in the box who are the most

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Speaker 6: important on the football field. Yeah, a lot of guys

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Speaker 7: The d line.

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Speaker 3: I really enjoyed you talking about twenty one personnel too,

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Speaker 3: and how they're going to use McCaffrey McCaffrey used as

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Speaker 3: a pass catcher quite a bit against Tampa Bay. They

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Speaker 3: really like to challenge in that way. Actually, why not

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Speaker 3: just talk to Drey Jones about it? Who joins us

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Speaker 3: now on the huddle, Dre, We're happy to have you

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Speaker 3: with us. We were actually just talking about though you

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Speaker 3: lot of what we saw from the defense against the Rams.

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Speaker 3: How did you guys feel in that game? I know

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Speaker 3: you wish you would have won, but how did you

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Speaker 3: feel otherwise?

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Speaker 9: Uh, you don't want necessarily say like small victories, but yeah,

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Speaker 9: a good job of just capitalizing and getting better from

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Speaker 5: Is it typically like fundamental things, Dre? That's it usually

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Speaker 5: breaks down to somebody getting turned at the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 4: Or somebody not in a gap.

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Speaker 5: Is it those kinds of things typically when when things

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Speaker 5: of thing as far as run defense goes, Yeah.

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Speaker 9: I feel like, honestly say, we beat ourselves more than

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Speaker 9: I feel like other teams just like necessarily beat us,

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Speaker 9: because like no one's like necessarily like getting beat off

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Speaker 9: just more so like bad staff, wrong placement, you know,

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Speaker 7: So we gotta get better at that. But there's a

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Speaker 6: I don't know if you heard about it, but like

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Speaker 6: a couple of weeks ago, Anthony Richardson QB right taps

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Speaker 6: I go, yeah, quarterbacks on tap out right, like quarterbacks

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Speaker 7: And then I started telling people that go.

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Speaker 6: But there are positions where you need a rotation. That

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Speaker 6: defensive line is a position where a rotation is good.

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Speaker 6: And I try to describe to people, it's like it's

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Speaker 7: As a receiver, I.

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Speaker 6: Can run thirty yards down and feel nobody touching me.

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Speaker 6: I'm good to go, and I still might tap out.

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Speaker 6: So now that you guys are got some depth at

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Speaker 6: that position, man, how do you think that's.

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Speaker 8: Helping just the morale the energy of that position?

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Speaker 9: I mean, I don't know, it's good. You get a

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Speaker 9: lot of fresh bodies deep, we're talented, you know, guys

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Speaker 9: can get opportunity to get to go. So it's good

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Speaker 3: What's it like facing the forty nine ers again, Like,

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Speaker 3: how much can you turn to the Thursday night tape

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Speaker 3: given that they've had some guys back and lost some guys,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like there's some stuff that's

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Speaker 3: just not going to be the same. How much are

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Speaker 3: you actually leaning on that tape when you start getting

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Speaker 9: I mean you have to lean on tape always necessarily

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Speaker 7: You got to go about tendencies.

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Speaker 9: And what they like to do and just kind of

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Speaker 9: read especially when you play a team twice, you know,

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Speaker 9: in the same division, you get an opportunity to look

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Speaker 9: at what you did wrong. And I'm sure they're gonna

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Speaker 9: repeat some of the players they did and that they

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Speaker 7: Hit on and they feel like they're comfortable with.

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Speaker 9: So it gets the opportunity to just kind of to

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Speaker 9: study more and just learn what they like to do.

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Speaker 5: I think John Lynch, their GM, was the one who

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Speaker 5: said it's like an illusion of complexity and their offense,

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Speaker 5: like with all the shifting and the motion and all

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Speaker 5: of that stuff, and you know, at the end of it,

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Speaker 5: it's just a football play, right. Are they the team

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Speaker 5: that you know, like tries to mess with you the

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Speaker 5: most as far as you know, you have to really

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Speaker 4: What are you seeing from them?

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Speaker 5: As far as all the shifting and all the pre

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Speaker 9: I mean there's a few teams that do a lot

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean it's it's it's tough.

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Speaker 9: I mean, at the end of the day, you have

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Speaker 7: You say? You you hit that wall?

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Speaker 8: What's your investment? Like in your body?

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Speaker 9: Oh, massages, cuffing, needles, all just like stretching, trying. I mean,

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, body body be broken down?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, people have no idea.

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Speaker 7: Man, it's crazy. Like it's kind of funny.

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Speaker 7: But like yeah, back your head. You know it hurts,

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Speaker 5: Well, I'm the one thing I would say the football

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Speaker 9: About I hate I hate complaining.

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Speaker 5: Yes, you speak it into existence. Also, it's like I'm

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Speaker 7: I know, I know it is there. But you know,

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Speaker 3: Three tough guys here, just a mentality. I'll complain all day.

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Speaker 2: Fine, unble uh.

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Speaker 3: He is Drey Jones kind enough to join us for

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Speaker 2: You have a very busy week.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna let you go, but thank you so much

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Speaker 11: This is the huddle every Thursday from noon to two

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Speaker 3: You are listening to the Huddle with Dave Wyman, Michael Bumpus,

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Speaker 8: How's it going going well?

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Speaker 7: Man? Going well?

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Speaker 12: Great Thursday. Glad to be back out here, you know.

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Speaker 12: And also I'm glad to be back on the show

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Speaker 3: We are happy to have you on. I got to ask, obviously,

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Speaker 12: Honestly, I think coming back from injury, you talk about

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Speaker 12: once you start thinking like that, that's when boom, injuries happen,

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Speaker 12: bad plays happened. So like for me, I was just happy, man,

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Speaker 12: y'all know how the league is. Man, Guys don't come

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Speaker 12: back for real. God get cut, God get waved. Guys

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Speaker 12: don't ever touch the feel again. Sol For me to

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Speaker 12: for men, I appreciate the organization and I just have

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Speaker 3: You might have been one of the most grateful guys

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Speaker 10: I got her.

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Speaker 10: I accepted that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah you got You got such great help here with

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Speaker 12: It's eleven or eleven. There's nobody holding you back, there's

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Speaker 7: Yeah, none like that first play.

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Speaker 10: That first touch and I'm good. We locked in this

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Speaker 6: What is that preparation like, like how much data are they giving,

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Speaker 12: Well, Man, I just put it into perspective. We sit

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Speaker 10: I could be wrong, but.

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Speaker 12: It's like an hour and a half to two hours

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Speaker 12: and then you got to go home, take care of

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Speaker 12: you hear a lot of time from any sport. It's

445
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Speaker 12: a lot of preparation that goes into it as far,

446
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Speaker 12: and so for you do all that work weekend, week

447
00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:09,280
Speaker 12: out and go out there and it's accurate. Yeah, you

448
00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:10,919
Speaker 12: can go out there and play fast and make plays.

449
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Speaker 6: I missed that so much for real. Yeah, rep it's fun.

450
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Speaker 6: If you don't enjoy the prep, then it's the saint

451
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Speaker 6: for it's real.

452
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Speaker 2: How does it compared to college, Uh.

453
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Speaker 12: It's a it's a whole nother level because college, when

454
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Speaker 12: it comes to schematics, is more so because I mean,

455
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Speaker 12: just just look at it.

456
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Speaker 10: Everybody doesn't make it to the league.

457
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Speaker 12: It's great players who are first team guys who never

458
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Speaker 12: touched a field in the NFL, you know, So it's

459
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Speaker 12: it's I won't say dumb down but it's not as

460
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Speaker 12: detailed as it is in the league. Our prep we'll

461
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Speaker 12: do like our coverage and stuff, but like you'll keep

462
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Speaker 12: it simple, like the coverages we started in fall camp

463
00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:51,560
Speaker 12: was running those same coverages the whole season. Here we

464
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Speaker 12: put in thirty calls, but you only run probably like

465
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Speaker 12: ten of them a game, and just say, like midway

466
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Speaker 12: through we just had to buy a week. Some of

467
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Speaker 12: those we just ran the first ten weeks. We're not

468
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Speaker 12: gonna run those players again, you know what I'm just

469
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Speaker 12: because like teams know what they looked like or it

470
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Speaker 12: didn't work or it didn't fit the scheme right now,

471
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Speaker 12: who would personnel we got? And so we go back

472
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Speaker 12: to the drawing board, drop new plays, drop news texas

473
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Speaker 12: and stunts, and drop new coverages and put corners in

474
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Speaker 12: safety positions, safeties and corner positions and vice versa. So

475
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Speaker 12: you got to keep being versatile with your defenses office

476
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Speaker 12: as well, but just your somatic in general. So I

477
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Speaker 12: feel like it's way more complex in the league. You

478
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Speaker 12: sound like a coach, are you? Are you a football lifer?

479
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Speaker 13: No?

480
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Speaker 12: No, no, you don't take So now I put my

481
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Speaker 12: time in, I do everything I need to do for football.

482
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Speaker 12: And then once once that time hit or once I

483
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Speaker 12: get everything done I need to get done, my life starts.

484
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Speaker 10: And that might be I mean, playing the game is

485
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Speaker 10: majority of it.

486
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Speaker 12: That might be going out and trying to restaurant some

487
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Speaker 12: of foodie and that might just me just kicking it

488
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Speaker 12: on my phone honestly, you know.

489
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Speaker 10: So it's like, once football is done, it's done.

490
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Speaker 12: Like I gotta get back to my life because I

491
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Speaker 12: feel like once is your whole life, you not your

492
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Speaker 12: true self for everybody else, for yourself and for everybody

493
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Speaker 12: who's around you as well.

494
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

495
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Speaker 5: Well, and so it sounds like you got away from

496
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Speaker 5: football during the the the bye week.

497
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Speaker 4: A little bit. What did you do?

498
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Speaker 10: One, I stayed here.

499
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Speaker 12: I didn't I didn't travel too much just because like

500
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Speaker 12: I didn't want for myself, my mental I didn't want

501
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Speaker 12: to go away and lose focus of I mean, we're

502
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Speaker 12: still in the season, you know what I'm saying, Like

503
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Speaker 12: it's week ten. Everybody knows the best football is played

504
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Speaker 12: in the in the back end of the season, So

505
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Speaker 12: like this is the point of like if you're not

506
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Speaker 12: locked in now, you gotta lock in for sure in

507
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Speaker 12: the back end.

508
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Speaker 10: Because we're talking about.

509
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Speaker 12: Playoffs, postseason, big time plays, big time games.

510
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Speaker 7: You know.

511
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Speaker 12: So for me, I stayed here, just took care of

512
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Speaker 12: my body, recovered yoga, pilates, came up here, pool work,

513
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Speaker 12: but really just I didn't. I didn't work out until

514
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Speaker 12: like Thursday or Friday. Like I slept in the first

515
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Speaker 12: half of the week. It's got the rest, got that

516
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Speaker 12: body right, and then just played the game. Black Op

517
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Speaker 12: Sixers came out.

518
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Speaker 10: You know, I'm Steves, I got my guns go.

519
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Speaker 7: They don't know what you talk about. He's like, yeah, I'm.

520
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Speaker 4: Confused, Dave, it's just me.

521
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Speaker 12: Yeah, I put them hours in there on Black Op

522
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Speaker 12: six man do the shooting game and you got his

523
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Speaker 12: multiplayer campaign. But like that's that's where my outside life,

524
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Speaker 12: all around.

525
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Speaker 3: The video games you gotta go up to, like Kyler

526
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Speaker 3: Murray and the Cardinals game. And no, I don't need

527
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Speaker 3: a jersey swap. I just need to talk to you

528
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Speaker 3: for a minute.

529
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Speaker 12: Yeah, you can't get lost. You see his whole thing

530
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Speaker 12: with his contracts in that he.

531
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Speaker 10: Gotta watch my film. You get locked in.

532
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Speaker 2: The TV in the background.

533
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Speaker 12: You know, you get locked in, you forget about your job.

534
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Speaker 3: He is Jered Reed kind enough to join us for

535
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Speaker 3: the huddle. Don't go anywhere.

536
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Speaker 11: This This is the huddle every Thursday from noon to

537
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Speaker 11: two on Seattle Sports.

538
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Speaker 3: You are listening to the huddle looking ahead to this

539
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Speaker 3: forty nine Ers game on Sunday. It's a rematch between

540
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Speaker 3: these two teams, this time in Santa Clara. Guys, we

541
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Speaker 3: just spoke with Dray Jones and Jered Reid, so getting

542
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Speaker 3: some more insight into the defensive side of things.

543
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Speaker 2: Bump, I'll start with you.

544
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Speaker 3: I loved Jeric breaking down all the prep they're going

545
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Speaker 3: to put into this. It's fun insight as someone who's

546
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Speaker 3: obviously never played this game, to hear how much work

547
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Speaker 3: goes in. It must be so satisfying to know that

548
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Speaker 3: if a team got you on something in your first meeting,

549
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Speaker 3: you're prepared for it the next time. What's something your

550
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Speaker 3: hope they're prepared for this time around?

551
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Speaker 7: Turn that Micael.

552
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Speaker 8: Mistake.

553
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Speaker 7: I hope they are prepared.

554
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Speaker 6: I mean, listen, it's you know what the Niners want

555
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Speaker 6: to do on offers. They want to send your eyes

556
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Speaker 6: left when they go right. They want to pull the

557
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Speaker 6: fullback end show run release them in the past. They

558
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Speaker 6: want to run to the strong side, run to the

559
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Speaker 6: weak side. They are just I hate to use this

560
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Speaker 6: because I feel like people who don't understand football still

561
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Speaker 6: uses it.

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Speaker 8: But they are a multiple offense. They do multiple.

563
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Speaker 6: Things, like whatever they want to do, they're capable of doing.

564
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Speaker 6: What you rarely see with the Niners though, is them

565
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Speaker 6: getting like an empty backfield and spread it out. It's

566
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Speaker 6: got to be like into the head have or they're

567
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Speaker 6: down they need a final drive or something like that.

568
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Speaker 6: But even then they say so true to themselves. It's

569
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Speaker 6: fun to watch them on film. But it's all about

570
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Speaker 6: just being disciplined when it comes to the Niners. Man,

571
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Speaker 6: get to where you're supposed to be, get to your gap,

572
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Speaker 6: get to your guy, and hope that that party throws

573
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Speaker 6: one up that you can get.

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Speaker 3: Man, we've seen in games where Perty has thrown a

575
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Speaker 3: number of picks at the forty nine ers have typically

576
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Speaker 3: lost those games. Now, go figure, when a quarterback turns

577
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Speaker 3: the ball over, you can lose more often than not.

578
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Speaker 3: What a wild football stat But Dave, how can you,

579
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Speaker 3: if if possible, put Purdy, put a quarterback in some

580
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Speaker 3: of those uncomfortable situations that might make him take a

581
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Speaker 3: few risks.

582
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I just I.

583
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Speaker 5: Think a lot of it might have to do with

584
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Speaker 5: like what Bump's talking about. I was watching the Tampa

585
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Speaker 5: game and like on the back side, they were opening

586
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Speaker 5: up a steam route by doing this like motion outside

587
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Speaker 5: you know that they do before, and they're trying to

588
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Speaker 5: get you to spread out.

589
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Speaker 4: So now that they've they've got a.

590
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Speaker 5: Crease there, and I guess just not fall for that crap,

591
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Speaker 5: you know, because they do. They do all of that

592
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 5: stuff and it all breaks down to a normal play

593
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Speaker 5: that you've seen before. So they're just trying to they're

594
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Speaker 5: trying to move you. They're trying to mess with you,

595
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Speaker 5: you know. I think the one thing if they can

596
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Speaker 5: have the same run gap discipline that they did last week,

597
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Speaker 5: because you look in that I think it was the

598
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Speaker 5: Tampa game where they ran for or I'm sorry it

599
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Speaker 5: was Dallas right for two hundred and twenty three yards

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Speaker 5: and they had a Garndo had eighty five, Party had

601
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Speaker 5: thirty six, Pearcell had just one Carrie Fly sweep for

602
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Speaker 5: thirty nine yards, all up to two hundred twenty three yards.

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Speaker 5: And you know the other thing is watching Party run.

604
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Speaker 5: I think another thing that I would like to see

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Speaker 5: more of because I think he's faster and everybody thinks,

606
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Speaker 5: and I think he's tougher than everybody thinks. But Gino

607
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Speaker 5: taken off run and I feel like that that will

608
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Speaker 5: really help this offense. When you have a running quarterback,

609
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Speaker 5: it just throws everything into disarray when you're on a defense.

610
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Speaker 5: So you know, those two things I think probably would

611
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Speaker 5: go a long ways towards beating this team. But it's

612
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Speaker 5: gonna be a tough game. But you know, they've lost

613
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Speaker 5: some games now, so you know it's not like they're

614
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Speaker 5: the big bad wolf they were in years past.

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Speaker 3: Now, Bump, it might be just finding ways to get

616
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Speaker 3: Gino a few design runs, but what are ways where

617
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Speaker 3: the Seahawks offense can just make things easier on themselves.

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Speaker 6: Well, during the Bump and Stacey Show, I asked to

619
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Speaker 6: see more under center from Gino and break some offense

620
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Speaker 6: and offensive tendencies, like you know that the Hawks aren't

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Speaker 6: gonna get under center much or one of the teams

622
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Speaker 6: that do with the fewest, and I think that will

623
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Speaker 6: help the play action that will help the downhill type

624
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Speaker 6: of runs. I think that you look at some of

625
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Speaker 6: the more pleasing to the I offenses, offenses that can

626
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Speaker 6: do a whole bunch of things. They spend a bit

627
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Speaker 6: more time under center. Atlanta Falcon is one of the

628
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Speaker 6: best offices in a game. Spend more time under center

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Speaker 6: the Lions do, the Rams do, the forty nine ers do.

630
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Speaker 6: And it's just the influence because when you're under center

631
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Speaker 6: and you go for a play action, you're back is

632
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Speaker 6: to the defense, you're throwing the ball out there. It's

633
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Speaker 6: just the influence you have in the play action game.

634
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Speaker 6: So that's what I like to see, and I'd like

635
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Speaker 6: to see him legit, use Gabe Russell as a for

636
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Speaker 6: real fullback, not just him.

637
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Speaker 7: Okay, fourth and one situation.

638
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Speaker 6: We need this, use them, put him back there and

639
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:21,680
Speaker 6: release them into the into the back side of things

640
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 6: of the fronts are or whatever. So just you know,

641
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Speaker 6: be creative. So that's what I hope that during the

642
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Speaker 6: bye week, because what you self evaluate, right, what are

643
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Speaker 6: we good at?

644
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Speaker 7: What are we weak at? How can we get better?

645
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Speaker 6: So I hope that grubbing the game, I've been looking

646
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Speaker 6: at the offense and trying to find out ways to

647
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Speaker 6: make this the game easier for Gino to figure out.

648
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Speaker 7: I think he does a good job.

649
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Speaker 6: He has like an eighty percent on target throw rate,

650
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Speaker 6: which is like top three or four in the league.

651
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Speaker 7: He's going to be accurate.

652
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Speaker 6: Now, imagine if he has the whole defense flowing left,

653
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Speaker 6: he's rolling right, and there's JSN but making on a

654
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Speaker 6: Sunday up the middle of the field ready to catch football.

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Speaker 2: It is so weird.

656
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Speaker 3: I mean, you heard Mike McDonald during his press conference

657
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Speaker 3: on Monday, so it was his first press cone friends

658
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Speaker 3: out of the by going yeah, there are some things

659
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Speaker 3: we could do, and maybe he was hinting at more

660
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Speaker 3: play action. Maybe he was hinting at fewer dropbacks for

661
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Speaker 3: an offensive line that's been struggling. I just, Dave, what

662
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Speaker 3: would you love to see offensively bump obviously mentioning some

663
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Speaker 3: of his things.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm with you, especially coming from a linebacker. You know,

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Speaker 5: perspective is just how much harder it is on play

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Speaker 5: action pass when the quarterbacks under center. And we talked

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Speaker 5: about this a lot on our show, but you know,

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Speaker 5: I always bring up Boomer sizing, and I know he's

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Speaker 5: an old timer, but that dude, he was a magician

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Speaker 5: with football.

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Speaker 4: And it just gives you less time to get to

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Speaker 4: your drops.

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Speaker 5: Like just one example is, you know, I feel like

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Speaker 5: play action pass from shotgun. You see it every once

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Speaker 5: in a while. But like you don't have to start downhill,

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Speaker 5: you don't have to. You know, you can already. You

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Speaker 5: can start your drop. A lot of times when you

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Speaker 5: get a really good hard play action pass, you're going

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Speaker 5: to take two three steps now to get to your zone.

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Speaker 5: If you're playing zone, you know, sometimes it's better than

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Speaker 5: man actually, but sometimes you get lost, especially on the

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Speaker 5: goal line. I would always run play action pass on

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Speaker 5: the goal line under center. It's so hard, but because

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Speaker 5: you know, there's no time to get to your coverage.

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Speaker 5: But if it's a zone and he's under center and

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Speaker 5: you see play action, you have to turn and run,

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Speaker 5: you know, And now you've turned your back to the quarterback,

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Speaker 5: you don't know where he's looking, and then you know,

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Speaker 5: you try to get your head around, but in order

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Speaker 5: to get the depth that you need, you have to

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Speaker 5: turn and run. So it just puts you at such

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Speaker 5: a disadvantage the linebackers, for.

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Speaker 2: Sure, especially quickly.

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Speaker 3: I didn't leave you a lot of time. But is

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Speaker 3: that why maybe Grub has avoided lots of play action stuff.

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Speaker 3: Someone on the Mac and Jack's text line saying, is

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Speaker 3: it because he was recently obviously a college coordinator.

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Speaker 2: Maybe they didn't do a lot of stuff under center.

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Speaker 6: Oh, I think philosophy has lots to do with it.

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Speaker 6: But I also think that on the college level you

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Speaker 6: hardly see guys under center. And Grub had the best

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Speaker 6: offensive line in the country, right, top three quarterback in

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Speaker 6: the country received on the outside, why not drop back?

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Speaker 7: Look, we're gonna do what we want to do.

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Speaker 2: I can do whatever I want here. I got Michael

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Speaker 2: Panics Junior and robandoonsday.

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Speaker 3: All right, you guys, we are gonna take a listen

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Speaker 3: to Gino Smith coming up at one pm. Figure out

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Speaker 3: what Seattle's quarterback thinks about this rematch against the forty

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Speaker 3: nine ers. Before then, we're gonna learn a bit more

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Speaker 3: about the forty nine ers from an expert. An opponent

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Speaker 3: preview with Jennifer lee Chan. It's coming your way next.

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Speaker 11: This is the Huddle every Thursday from noon to two

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Speaker 11: on Seattle's Sports.

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Speaker 3: Joining us now from NBC Sports Bay Area. It's Jennifer

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Speaker 3: lee Chan covering the forty nine ers, taking an opponent

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Speaker 3: preview Here, Jennifer, how's it going good?

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Speaker 14: How are you guys doing?

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Speaker 2: We are fantastic.

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Speaker 3: These two teams in very different places in terms of

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Speaker 3: maybe their overall goals for this year. But a second

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Speaker 3: meeting means we're taking a closer look at both of them,

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Speaker 3: and obviously here in Seattle hoping they come out on top.

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Speaker 3: So I'm gonna start by talking about what's changed for

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Speaker 3: the forty nine ers. You guys got Christian McCaffrey back.

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Speaker 3: How do you look against Tampa Bay? And uh, is

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Speaker 3: he going to be kind of one hundred percent or

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Speaker 3: held back in any way in this one?

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Speaker 14: I mean, he says he's one hundred percent.

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Speaker 11: Now.

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Speaker 14: It wasn't a great game for him against the run,

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Speaker 14: but he was very active in the passing game, so

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Speaker 14: he only had like thirty eight yards rushing. But that

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Speaker 14: Tampa Bay defensive line is pretty stout with Vitaveya on it,

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Speaker 14: So I mean, I didn't expect him to get a

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Speaker 14: ton of yards, but he was on the field more

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Speaker 14: than I thought he was going to be. I thought

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Speaker 14: they were going to ease him in a little bit more,

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Speaker 14: but he was on the field for like almost ninety

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Speaker 14: percent of the snaps. So while they have had really

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Speaker 14: good production out of JP Mason and Isaac Garndo, they

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Speaker 14: really kind of leaned on Christian McCaffrey, and I think

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Speaker 14: it depends on the down and distance where that they

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Speaker 14: keep him in or not. But third downs, for sure,

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Speaker 14: they're going to keep him in the field.

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Speaker 2: On the field, Jennifer.

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Speaker 5: As far as Grendo and Mason, we got a full

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Speaker 5: dose of those guys fortunately last time. But yeah, I

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Speaker 5: mean it's kind of like it's kind of like Rock Purdy,

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Speaker 5: where you know, a lot of people qualify it by saying, well,

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Speaker 5: that's just the offense, and he just gets in there

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Speaker 5: and runs the offense. Guys are really good backs, and

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Speaker 5: do you find that a lot that you hear people saying, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 5: well it's just the system. These guys are pretty dang

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Speaker 5: good running backs.

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Speaker 14: I mean, it is a system, but they also have

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Speaker 14: to be good, So I think it's both. So I mean,

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Speaker 14: like you look at Kyle Shanahan's history with the Ford

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Speaker 14: nine Ers, and it was a different leading rusher every

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Speaker 14: single year until Christian mccafrey joined the team. Then he

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Speaker 14: actually was the leading rusher for two years in a row.

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Speaker 14: So while it does help the running backs in Kyle

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Speaker 14: Shanahan's system, they still have to be able to hit

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Speaker 14: the holes. Appropriately because I think when JP Mason kind

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Speaker 14: of first got to the foreigners, they didn't play him

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Speaker 14: a lot because he didn't have the right timing. Christian

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Speaker 14: McCaffrey is just so good at it. He's so patient,

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Speaker 14: he sees he's got great vision, so he really sees

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Speaker 14: where the openings are and he's able to take advantage.

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Speaker 14: I think that was part of the reason he wasn't

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Speaker 14: as productive in his first game back. You know, it

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Speaker 14: just kind of getting back in those swaying of things.

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Speaker 14: He hasn't played a game since the Super Bowl, so

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Speaker 14: to get him out on the field and to really,

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Speaker 14: you know, see what he can do against a true opponent,

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Speaker 14: I think there's going to be a little bit of

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Speaker 14: an acclamation process, even though he felt like he was

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Speaker 14: one hundred percent physically healthy.

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Speaker 6: Hey, Jennifer Michael host Stacy is big on reality TV,

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Speaker 6: and it seems like you guys had a reality TV

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Speaker 6: moment on the sidelines with the long snapper in Deebo Samuel.

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Speaker 6: Has there been a resolution? I reassured people, I go, look,

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Speaker 6: this is football.

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Speaker 8: They have their moment, They'll be fine. What's the status

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Speaker 8: on that?

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Speaker 14: Yeah, I think everything's squashed, but it was an interesting

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Speaker 14: moment because this team is really known for not pointing fingers,

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Speaker 14: So there was a little bit of a kind of

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Speaker 14: like a lock in moment where Diva went up to

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Speaker 14: Jake Ludian. You know, he had missed three kicks, so

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Speaker 14: he had made three but missed three, so I you know,

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Speaker 14: you kind of understand. It was an emotional game. And

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Speaker 14: they've done this before this season. They've been on a

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Speaker 14: roller coaster during games, you know, two other times they've

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Speaker 14: come out losers, So you know, the games of the

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Speaker 14: Arizona Cardinals, the games of Los Angeles Rams, that roller

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Speaker 14: coaster where they had a sizeable lead and then lost

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Speaker 14: at the end because of missed opportunity. So you can

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Speaker 14: kind of see where he was coming from. But obviously

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Speaker 14: not the best way to talk to your talk to

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Speaker 14: your teammates. But it's all squashed and now everybody's fine.

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Speaker 14: And Kyle Shanahan spoke yesterday and said that, you know

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Speaker 14: a little bit of an overreaction by Debo, also a

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Speaker 14: little bit of an overreaction by Taper Pepper the long snapper.

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Speaker 3: When you win like the forty nine ers have, it

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Speaker 3: makes sense that teammates and players would be upset they

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Speaker 3: aren't meeting their own expectation. Right that being said Jennifer,

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Speaker 3: it feels like one of the stories has been okay

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Speaker 3: because of injuries. The forty nine ers have been struggling. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: it's so hard to remove injuries from the equation. But

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Speaker 3: have there been other areas where you've been surprised to

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Speaker 3: see San Francisco struggle or where maybe they've been disappointed

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Speaker 3: with their struggles.

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Speaker 14: I think one thing that's surprising about this defense, you know,

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Speaker 14: that has relied totally on the defensive line to be

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Speaker 14: really good and you know, shut down quarterbacks. I mean,

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Speaker 14: that was the strength of the defense for so many years.

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Speaker 14: And now looking at diam de Lenor, who just got

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Speaker 14: a huge mega contract five years, ninety two million dollars,

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Speaker 14: it really is the secondary that is the stand out

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Speaker 14: part of the defense, you know, and it's all young guys.

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Speaker 14: Diemre Lenor, Trevora'sward has been out for a couple of weeks,

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Speaker 14: so you've got another rookie, Bernardo Green, and then the

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Speaker 14: safety it's Malex Mustafa and JayR. Brown. You know, JayR.

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Speaker 14: Brown's a second year guy, Malex a rookie also, So

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Speaker 14: I mean this young group is going to be together

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Speaker 14: for a long time. It's going to be consistent, which

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Speaker 14: is what we haven't really seen from the defensive line

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Speaker 14: this year.

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Speaker 5: Hey, Jennifer, Fred Warner, I was talking to kJ Wright

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Speaker 5: and Johnny Holland actually is a guy that it. You know,

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Speaker 5: I actually was drafted the same year I was, and

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Speaker 5: you know, he's a linebacker.

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Speaker 4: kJ is a linebacker.

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Speaker 5: And both those guys said, Fred Warner is a machine.

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Speaker 5: It's it's amazing just how he seems to be good

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Speaker 5: at everything. But as far as you know, especially for

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Speaker 5: a third round pick, but as far as his leadership

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Speaker 5: and what he brings to that defense, what are the intangibles.

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Speaker 14: When he's on the field, he is constantly working and

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Speaker 14: it doesn't there's no number. I think it was out

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Speaker 14: they're on the working on the sled during training camp,

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Speaker 14: and I heard a story that a rookie came up

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Speaker 14: to him and said, you know how many rescue you.

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Speaker 14: He's like, there's no number. He's like, it's I do

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Speaker 14: it till it feels right. So that type of work

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Speaker 14: ethic and what he does. And Johnny Holland is just

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Speaker 14: such an amazing coach. And you know, I think there's

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Speaker 14: so much respect for him in the building and from

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Speaker 14: Fred Warner, and you know, a ton of respect from

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Speaker 14: Fred Warner. It's just a trickle down effect. And what

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Speaker 14: they're really missing right now is Drake green Law being

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Speaker 14: on the field. And I think he's a couple of

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Speaker 14: weeks out from having his practice window open. But I think,

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Speaker 14: you know, the combination of what Fred brings as a

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Speaker 14: leader and then dre brings as just kind of one

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Speaker 14: of those you know, enforcers on the field. I mean,

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Speaker 14: it's a really really good linebacker duo. But you know,

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Speaker 14: I think devondra Kepple's Campbell's getting better. I think he

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Speaker 14: had kind of a rough start to the season, but

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Speaker 14: he's playing much better now alongside of Fred Warner.

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Speaker 6: Unfortunate that you guys lost Brendan. I you for the

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Speaker 6: year with the young man Kyle out of Florida stuff

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Speaker 6: the last game. I've been watching film on him. He

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Speaker 6: looks like a seasoned route runner. He's so smooth, understands

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Speaker 6: the leverage. How do you expect his role to grow

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Speaker 6: as the season progresses?

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Speaker 14: Did you mean Ricky Pearcel?

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Speaker 8: Ricky Sorry, yes, Ricky sorry, Yeah, he.

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Speaker 14: Is an unbelievable rout runner. I mean just watching him,

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Speaker 14: you know, run routes on air when he was a rookie,

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Speaker 14: you know, in Ricky training, in Ricky Mini Rookie OTAs,

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Speaker 14: and then mini camp. He sat out of training camp

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Speaker 14: a little bit because he had a shoulder sublexation and

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Speaker 14: a hamstring injury. So the fact that he is back,

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Speaker 14: and then of course, you know the shooting incident that

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Speaker 14: happened in San Francisco. Seventy one days later, has his

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Speaker 14: first NFL touchdown. But his positivity and his you know,

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Speaker 14: he's kind of one of those film junkies. You really

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00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 14: watches all the route running and he's so good at

881
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,919
Speaker 14: every position, and I think he's just going to get better.

882
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 14: He is really smooth in his coming out of his brakes,

883
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 14: and his chemistry building with Brock already is really going

884
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 14: to be evident as the season progresses.

885
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Speaker 3: Hey, Jennifer, this is less about this upcoming matchup and

886
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 3: more just about where these two teams are. One of

887
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 3: the conversations we're having a lot here in Seattle is

888
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 3: how to take that next step forward. This is a

889
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 3: club that has some roster holes, and so we're figuring

890
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 3: out like how do you become true contenders again?

891
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 2: San Francisco's clearly there.

892
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 3: I mean this, the expectation for this club is fairly

893
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 3: super Bowl. When do you think it happened for San Francisco, Like,

894
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 3: when do you think they took maybe the biggest step

895
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Speaker 3: forward as an organization from being you know, four third

896
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 3: or fourth in the NFC West to back up to

897
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 3: being contenders again.

898
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 14: I mean, it really was Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch

899
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 14: bringing in guys to the locker room that love the

900
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 14: game of football. If they don't love it, then it's

901
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 14: too much of it's too much work to really put

902
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 14: one hundred percent into it. I mean, you got guys

903
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,760
Speaker 14: like George Kittle and Fred Warner and Nick Botha who live, breed,

904
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 14: eat football, and I think that is, you know, it's

905
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 14: a testament to know the mood in there. I mean so,

906
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Speaker 14: I mean the whole debot Taper Pepper thing was the

907
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 14: first time we've ever seen any finger pointing at all,

908
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 14: and I think it was more like a more of

909
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 14: a lock in kind of let's get it together a

910
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 14: type of incident than you know, something where it's you know,

911
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 14: kind of that toxic locker room chemistry that you see.

912
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 14: But it's they just love playing football, they love being

913
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 14: around each other. And you know, it's it's guys that

914
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 14: are fifth rounders like George Kittle, Fred Warner in the

915
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:35,479
Speaker 14: third round, these guys that are coming in Jayon Brown

916
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 14: as a later round pick. It's not all the first rounders.

917
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 14: It's these later round guys that have really had to

918
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 14: grind it out to be who they are. And then

919
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 14: I think they really believe in the system, both the

920
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 14: offense side and the defensive side.

921
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Speaker 5: Jennifer tell us a little bit about Kyle Shanahan. He

922
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 5: was a ball boy when I was in Denver playing

923
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 5: for his.

924
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Speaker 4: Dad, and you know, and.

925
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Speaker 5: It's just amazing to see, you know, how much he

926
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 5: is like his dad and things like that. But you know,

927
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 5: he I don't I don't think he has a guarded

928
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 5: personality or anything. But any any insight into, you know,

929
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 5: the kind of guy that he is. He I mentioned

930
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Speaker 5: Fred Warner is a machine. I feel like he's kind

931
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,320
Speaker 5: of a machine at the at the microphone, like he

932
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 5: just says all the right things.

933
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 4: But any any insight on who who is the real

934
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Speaker 4: Kyle Shanahan.

935
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Speaker 14: Are we seeing as honest?

936
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Speaker 1: Yeah, no.

937
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Speaker 14: I mean, I think he's as honest as he can be.

938
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Speaker 14: And I know that other reporters have come up to

939
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 14: me and there they're like, you're so lucky you get

940
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,359
Speaker 14: both Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch. And I think that's

941
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Speaker 14: not lost on the players that he doesn't sugarcoat anything.

942
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 14: He doesn't bs anybody. He is straight up to the point.

943
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 14: And if you're you know, in the doghouse with him,

944
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 14: you're in the doghouse with him, and you know it.

945
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:46,839
Speaker 14: He's explains the game to players in a different way.

946
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 14: I mean a guy like Joe Staley, who had been

947
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 14: here for years, said he looked at football a different

948
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 14: way once he had Kyle Shanahan explain it to him

949
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 14: the way he sees it. So I think he's got

950
00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 14: so much respect from players in his ball acumen. And

951
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 14: then you know, his favorite music artist is Lil Wayne,

952
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:08,240
Speaker 14: so he's got the respect of the young players along

953
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 14: with you know, the veterans who are like, oh wow,

954
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 14: it's you know, learning from him is such an eye opener.

955
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 14: And then he's got you know, he wears Jordan's and

956
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 14: he's you know, into hip hop, so I mean he's

957
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 14: got that side as well. So, I mean it's just

958
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 14: he appeals to the younger guys and the older vets,

959
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 14: and I think just his football knowledge changes the way

960
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 14: guys look at the game, and you see how it's

961
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 14: kind of transformed the league and how there's all these

962
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:35,800
Speaker 14: you know, his his coaching tree has gone out and

963
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 14: their head coaches or their coordinators, and how it's you know,

964
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:40,360
Speaker 14: changing the way the NFL has played.

965
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 3: She's Jennifer lee Chan of NBC Sports Bay Area, covering

966
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:45,839
Speaker 3: the forty nine ers and giving us a preview here.

967
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 2: Thanks so much, Jennifer.

968
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 14: Thanks Jennifer, no problem, thanks for having me on.

969
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 4: See.

970
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, coming up next, let's take a listen to what

971
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 3: Geno thinks about this rematch against the forty nine ers

972
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 3: coming your way next.

973
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:02,919
Speaker 1: He's the Hoddle Heart every Thursday from Mune to you.

974
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 11: The Hub.

975
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 3: Where are the Seahawks stand coming out of the bye

976
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 3: week ahead of a big game against the forty nine ers.

977
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 2: Here's Geno Smith.

978
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 1: Can you already tell the bye week for the team?

979
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 15: Yeah, I think it just gave us a chance to

980
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 15: really recollect ourselves, you know, get our bodies right, get

981
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,879
Speaker 15: our get our minds right, you know, obviously, a bunch

982
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 15: of guys got a chance to you know, spend some

983
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 15: time with their families. You know, just just a chance

984
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 15: for everything to reset and really get ready for this, uh,

985
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:32,799
Speaker 15: you know, eight game stretch, this big push that we

986
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 15: got coming up.

987
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 16: You have your most big throws against the Rams. We

988
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,839
Speaker 16: also have your most interceptions. To talk about, like how

989
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 16: you prioritize making plays versus protecting the ball as a quarterback.

990
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 15: Yeah, I mean interceptions and interceptions. You never want to

991
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,479
Speaker 15: throw them, and they're all a little different. I mean it's,

992
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 15: you know, not an excuse for him, it is what

993
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 15: it is. You got to make sure that it don't happen.

994
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:57,839
Speaker 15: When you're talking about being aggressive. I think it just

995
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 15: comes down to trusting yourself, you know, trusting your your instincts,

996
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 15: trusting your read, your footwork, trusting in the play calls

997
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,839
Speaker 15: the guys around you. But I mean, you know there's

998
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 15: a big emphasis put on like the interceptions. But the

999
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,919
Speaker 15: main thing is that, you know, the best quarterbacks find

1000
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 15: ways to win, best teams find ways to win. You know,

1001
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 15: we watched Russell, you know, in the NFC Championship game.

1002
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,479
Speaker 15: Found a way to win. Uh, you know, we watched

1003
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 15: Jared Goff last week five interceptions. They found a way

1004
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 15: to win. And that's just the reality of this game.

1005
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 17: It's a team game.

1006
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:28,280
Speaker 18: Uh.

1007
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 15: We understand as quarterbacks we're gonna be heavily scrutinized and

1008
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 15: we welcome that. But when you really break it down, man,

1009
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 15: you gotta you know, look at the process.

1010
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 17: And I believe in my process. Do you know on

1011
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 17: that next play mentality? Does that evolve over time?

1012
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 16: You know, after with a turnover, As you play longer

1013
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 16: in the league, how does that evolve in your mind?

1014
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:48,319
Speaker 17: Yeah, it's just what you gotta do.

1015
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 15: Whether you're a rookie or second year player or you know,

1016
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 15: twelve year vet like myself. You play quarterback long enough,

1017
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 15: those things are gonna happen. But the main thing is,

1018
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 15: like I said, you gotta find ways to win. And

1019
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 15: the only play that matters, it's the next play. Is

1020
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 15: the moment that you're in, that's the only moment that matters.

1021
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 15: If you if you focus too much on the past

1022
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 15: or the future, it won't help you either way. So

1023
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:09,800
Speaker 15: you know, for me as a quarterback, as a leader,

1024
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 15: you know everyone's watching and you know, like I said,

1025
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 15: you hate for bad things to happen. I hate to

1026
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 15: sit up here and even talk about it, but that's

1027
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 15: a part of the game. Adversity is a part of

1028
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 15: the game, and it really shapes you as a man,

1029
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 15: as a player. And so when you can move on

1030
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:25,399
Speaker 15: and get to the next play, it's a lot like life,

1031
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:26,879
Speaker 15: you know, just get to get to the next day

1032
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 15: and keep pushing with my family, with my son, and

1033
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,399
Speaker 15: you know, watching a lot of tape, getting my body right.

1034
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:36,280
Speaker 7: What did you see when you watched the tape?

1035
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 15: Yeah, just self evaluation, evaluating our offense, you know, seeing

1036
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 15: a lot of really great things. I'm seeing us being explosive,

1037
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 15: you know, really uh, you know two minute, I think

1038
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:46,879
Speaker 15: we're one of the best teams in the game when

1039
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 15: when we're up in our tempo, but also seeing some

1040
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 15: things that we shot ourselves in the foot, a lot

1041
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 15: of things that we can correct and so you know,

1042
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 15: really just dipping into that and seeing like how can

1043
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 15: we get better and how can I get better? Also,

1044
00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 15: watch a lot of football around the league, you know,

1045
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 15: watch a lot of differ teams, watch a lot of

1046
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 15: different quarterbacks that I like watching, and uh, they'll just

1047
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 15: try to, you know, steal some things from their game.

1048
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 10: When you watch the.

1049
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 5: Teams around the league, not just this week, just in general,

1050
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 5: what do you see maybe about your guys's chances that

1051
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 5: being where you want to be.

1052
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 10: By the end of the year.

1053
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 17: Yeah, I think we can beat anybody.

1054
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:15,879
Speaker 15: I think we got the guys in this locker room,

1055
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:17,800
Speaker 15: we got the coaches, we got the right mindset, we

1056
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 15: got the right work ethic. I think we have to

1057
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:21,879
Speaker 15: be a little bit smarter, uh, and definitely be smarter

1058
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 15: in the situational area. And then also I think we

1059
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,760
Speaker 15: got to stop shooting ourselves in the foot, stop putting

1060
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 15: ourselves in backed up situations early on. It's gonna be

1061
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 15: tough in this league playing in third and longs. I

1062
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 15: mean your you know, the percentage rate, it's not high.

1063
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 15: So the more we can put ourselves in those manageable situations,

1064
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 15: the better we are. And we've been great, you know,

1065
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 15: in the in the medium uh third medium game. So

1066
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 15: you know, just thinking about first and second down, those

1067
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 15: are those are the big things. Being better on first

1068
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 15: and second down, which will help us out on third down.

1069
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:48,439
Speaker 7: FIRS.

1070
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Speaker 16: Tentage wise, you've been in a shotgun an awful lot

1071
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:53,399
Speaker 16: and that's the first half part of the year as well.

1072
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 13: What are kind of the differences.

1073
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 16: I guess you see when you're in a shotgun in

1074
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 16: the under center, and you know what, it help you

1075
00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 16: more to be under center more.

1076
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 15: You think, yeah, I mean always shotgun under center, and

1077
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 15: it's football. You know, a lot of teams executed very

1078
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 15: well from shotgun and a lot of teams have executed

1079
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 15: very well from under center. You can look at it

1080
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 15: both ways. I think you have to be balanced in

1081
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 15: all aspects. Obviously your shotgun, you know, it's higher tendency

1082
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 15: for past, but you can run well a lot of those

1083
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 15: sets as well, so you know, I wouldn't put too

1084
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,839
Speaker 15: much emphasis on that. I think that's just how our

1085
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 15: offense is run. But I think we do a great

1086
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 15: job at having you know, the gun runs and all

1087
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 15: that stuff to you know, really counter that you play.

1088
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 5: Fakes are any less effective at a shotgun than they

1089
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 5: are when you're under center and like your back is

1090
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:34,240
Speaker 5: to the defense.

1091
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,839
Speaker 15: That'd be a question for a defender, but shoot man,

1092
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 15: I think it's effective if you if you do it

1093
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:40,319
Speaker 15: at the right time.

1094
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 17: You got to affect the right guys.

1095
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 15: You got to know what you're trying to get accomplished,

1096
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 15: and who you're trying to influence.

1097
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 17: That's really what it's all about.

1098
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:48,839
Speaker 15: You get the right coverage and you know that guy

1099
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 15: has a run fit, and you show him run and

1100
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 15: he steps in there, then it works. If he doesn't

1101
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 15: step in there, if the fake's not good enough, if

1102
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 15: you know, if the linemen don't sell it with their

1103
00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 15: hat placement, it wouldn't work.

1104
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 17: So I think it is all circumstantial.

1105
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 18: How important is it to you personally? Do you know

1106
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 18: up beat the forty nine ers.

1107
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 15: Yeah, it's very personal, man. I think when you when

1108
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 15: you think about division, you know, opponents, Uh, these games

1109
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,319
Speaker 15: matter the most, especially with you know, the forty nine ers.

1110
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 15: They've been at the top of our division, one of

1111
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 15: the best teams in the league for a while. And

1112
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 15: if we want to be that type of team that

1113
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 15: we say we are, you know, we got to go

1114
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 15: through teams like this, and uh, you know, I have

1115
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 15: no doubt in my mind the type of guys that

1116
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 15: we have, the type of preparation we're gonna put in,

1117
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 15: and really the way that we're gonna step on that field.

1118
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 15: You know, I know that I'm gonna step on it

1119
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 15: with with that chip on my shoulder, that edge that

1120
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 15: I always have and I know my guys are as well.

1121
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 18: How much on that for that on your resume that

1122
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 18: you haven't beaten them yet? How much is that sucking you.

1123
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 4: Need to fix?

1124
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 15: I mean there's teams that haven't beaten us yet. Yeah.

1125
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 16: Good for the most yards against the forty nine ers

1126
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 16: many quarterback this year, more than the homes or the stafford.

1127
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 16: Talk about what worked for you guys in that first game.

1128
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:56,320
Speaker 17: Man, we lost.

1129
00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 15: That's all that matters, you know, Yards and stats and

1130
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:02,399
Speaker 15: all the things that people love to talk about don't

1131
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 15: really matter to me.

1132
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 17: I just want to win generally.

1133
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 19: How do you How do you view accountability and why

1134
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 19: does it matter so much to you?

1135
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:08,760
Speaker 10: Yeah?

1136
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 15: To me, accountability is all about integrity, you know, And

1137
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 15: that's that's not just when people are watching, that's when

1138
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:15,320
Speaker 15: no one's watching.

1139
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 7: You know.

1140
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 17: How accountable are you truly to yourself?

1141
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 15: As a man? I take that very personal. That's something

1142
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:23,919
Speaker 15: I teach my son. You know, no, no right from wrong,

1143
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 15: and when you're wrong, you're wrong.

1144
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:25,839
Speaker 17: When you're right, you're right.

1145
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 15: And being accountable to my teammates, being accountable to the organization,

1146
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 15: that's something I stand on.

1147
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,360
Speaker 17: That's something I believe in. Uh, but we all have

1148
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 17: to do the same things.

1149
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 3: How long it was, like, why did you feel like

1150
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 3: you needed to say what you said post game against

1151
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 3: the Rams?

1152
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 15: Yeah, that's just how it felt. That's truly how it

1153
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 15: feels how I feel about the game. Like I told

1154
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 15: you guys, you know, I thrive when the balls in

1155
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 15: my hand, and you know when I when I don't

1156
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 15: do the things that I'm accustomed to doing. When we

1157
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 15: have those mistakes and they turn the game, you know,

1158
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 15: i'ma I'm gonna be the first to stand up and

1159
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 15: you know, put it on my shoulders and I'll do

1160
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 15: that every time. But uh, again, I'm not living in

1161
00:46:59,040 --> 00:46:59,399
Speaker 15: the past.

1162
00:46:59,440 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 7: Man.

1163
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 15: That stuff happened, then we got to learn from it.

1164
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 15: But ultimately, man, I'm always gonna be accountable.

1165
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 14: You've always trusted Jackson, But in that last game, what

1166
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:09,839
Speaker 14: area did you learn you could trust him even more

1167
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 14: or lean.

1168
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 16: On him even more?

1169
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:14,879
Speaker 15: In Man, I've always had that trust in Jackson even

1170
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 15: before I met him. You know, I was texting Peak.

1171
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 15: You know, we got to draft this guy, and you

1172
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:21,799
Speaker 15: know I knew the type of player he was from

1173
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 15: just watching film, you know, talking to the people at

1174
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 15: Ohio state just how much he loves the game, how

1175
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 15: much you know, he thrives in those big moments. You

1176
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:30,319
Speaker 15: think about the fourth down catch he made, You think

1177
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 15: about the touchdown he made to you know, tie the

1178
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 15: game up, and just all the plays that he made

1179
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 15: throughout that game. A couple of them got called back.

1180
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 15: He would have had almost you know, two hundred some

1181
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 15: yards without those callbacks. So I think he's a gamer,

1182
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 15: he's a special talent. He's a guy who works hard.

1183
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 15: And uh, I think you know it's still you know,

1184
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 15: the best is still ahead from him, So he's just

1185
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:49,280
Speaker 15: got to keep pushing.

1186
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 16: What kind of the throw was really fast to start

1187
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 16: the year, and it's kind of progressively gotten a little

1188
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 16: bit longer, and some big plays come with that as well.

1189
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 10: Can you talk about like why you think that.

1190
00:47:57,600 --> 00:47:58,280
Speaker 4: Might be happening?

1191
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 15: Yeah, I mean we're in some third longs. I mean

1192
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 15: that's the main thing. We're in third long and you're

1193
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:03,800
Speaker 15: trying to get to the sticks. You're gonna hold the

1194
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 15: ball a little bit longer to try and try and

1195
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:05,839
Speaker 15: convert those.

1196
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 20: Uh.

1197
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 15: Yeah, we have had some big plays and we have

1198
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 15: been you know, calling some shots and obviously you're gonna

1199
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 15: you know, take a deeper drop and hold the ball

1200
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 15: a little longer there. But for the most part, I

1201
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 15: think it's just you know what it is. I mean,

1202
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,879
Speaker 15: I can't really say there's a reason for it. That's

1203
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 15: just kind of how the games have gone. And uh,

1204
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 15: you know, we're doing whatever we can to win games,

1205
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 15: and so that's probably why.

1206
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:27,800
Speaker 13: What kind of spark can get DK back after a

1207
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:29,720
Speaker 13: couple of weeks and what can I do for the offense?

1208
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,839
Speaker 15: Uh, tremendous for the offense, man, just having DK back,

1209
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 15: and you know what he brings the leadership standpoint, just

1210
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 15: his physicality in the run game and then obviously one

1211
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 15: of the best receivers in the game. When he's out there,

1212
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 15: he makes the defense. You know, think about where he

1213
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 15: where he's at at all times, and it allows other

1214
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 15: guys to, you know, get open and you know kind

1215
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 15: of have those one on ones and have those favorable matchups.

1216
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 15: And so anytime DK's out there, man, he's a threat.

1217
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,240
Speaker 15: He's always a big play, home run threat. And uh,

1218
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 15: he's a guy that we count on and you know,

1219
00:48:58,239 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 15: if he's out there, man, we know he's gonna give

1220
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:00,959
Speaker 15: it his all and he's gonna do great.

1221
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 10: Similar Bible, but to get back and speak through you guys.

1222
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 15: Yeah, just happy for Abe just to be back in practice. Man,

1223
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:09,399
Speaker 15: just you know, seeing the way that he's battled back

1224
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 15: and he's fought through the rehab and gotten himself, you know,

1225
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 15: in a position to be able to play.

1226
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 17: You know, he's my locker mad.

1227
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 15: I talk to him almost every day, and you know,

1228
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 15: I know how bad he wants to be out there,

1229
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 15: and you know he's.

1230
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 17: Getting hisself right.

1231
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 15: He's you know, in practice and he's looking good and

1232
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 15: so you know, we'll see how it goes. But man,

1233
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 15: just having him back is gonna be big for offense.

1234
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 7: What does it say to you guys?

1235
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:30,439
Speaker 16: I guess you know, they've made some pretty big moves

1236
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 16: on the defensive side with the trade with.

1237
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 7: Ernest and the move with Terrell and stuff like that.

1238
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 13: Just kind of the message that sense to the locker

1239
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:36,320
Speaker 13: room against.

1240
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 4: Niggles kind of use.

1241
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 15: Honestly, I'm you know, we we don't partaking that, we don't,

1242
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 15: you know, we we we love the guys that are

1243
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:44,919
Speaker 15: in our locker room. We appreciate all those guys from

1244
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,880
Speaker 15: Bake too, you know, to Real Dobson to you know,

1245
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 15: even having Earnest here. I think he's done a tremendous

1246
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 15: job is stepping in and really helping our defense. So

1247
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 15: whoever's in the locker room, man, we don't get to

1248
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:57,280
Speaker 15: make those decisions. We love those guys and we appreciate

1249
00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 15: them for all their hard work.

1250
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 18: What do you value or appreciate most about being a

1251
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 18: quarterback of the Speriensira.

1252
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 15: I just value the opportunity. That's the biggest thing. The

1253
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:08,280
Speaker 15: opportunity to go out there and to win with my teammates,

1254
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 15: to go to practice every day, to engage with these

1255
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 15: guys in the locker room, you know, to be a

1256
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 15: part a part of this team, to where that you

1257
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 15: know that Seahawks decal. Uh, just every single part of it.

1258
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 17: Man, it means a lot.

1259
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 18: How much have you thought about where you want to

1260
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 18: end your career and whether you do want to stay

1261
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:23,720
Speaker 18: here forever?

1262
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 15: I'm thinking about whenning on Sunday, all the.

1263
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 17: All the rest of that stuff will figure yourself out

1264
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:30,280
Speaker 17: and all the changes on defense.

1265
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:33,880
Speaker 16: Have you noticed in practice anything about the defense that's

1266
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 16: been different over the last few weeks that you were practicing.

1267
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:39,320
Speaker 15: I just think those guys are you know, everyone's everyone

1268
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:42,239
Speaker 15: around here is working extremely hard. To get this thing

1269
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:44,799
Speaker 15: turned in the right direction. You know, we're right in

1270
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 15: the thick of the playoff hunt. You know, we got

1271
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:48,799
Speaker 15: eight games to go and you know, determine what our

1272
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 15: season is gonna be. And I see those guys working hard.

1273
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 15: I see the communication as the more they get you know,

1274
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:56,840
Speaker 15: reps in this scheme, and the more they you know,

1275
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 15: are able to you know, go to meetings and go

1276
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:01,760
Speaker 15: to practice and walk through. So they're just getting faster

1277
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 15: and faster with the communication. And you can see those guys.

1278
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 15: They're starting to click for him, and I think it's

1279
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 15: only going to get better. And just the way that

1280
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 15: Spoon goes out there and he communicates with the guys,

1281
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 15: and you know, if there's a motion or a shift,

1282
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,399
Speaker 15: you know he's right on it. So all those guys,

1283
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 15: I think are doing a great job and only going

1284
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:17,399
Speaker 15: to get better.

1285
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:20,400
Speaker 3: You are listening to the Huddle with Dave Wyman, Michael Bumpus,

1286
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 3: and Stacy Ross.

1287
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:22,360
Speaker 2: Don't go anywhere.

1288
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 11: This this is the huddle every Thursday from noon to

1289
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 11: two on Seattle Sports.

1290
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,319
Speaker 3: You are listening to the huddle joining us right now.

1291
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 3: It's the voice of the Seahawks. Steve Rabel, Raves how's

1292
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 3: it going great?

1293
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 7: Guys?

1294
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 2: How are you feeling good?

1295
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:40,799
Speaker 3: Mostly happy to be talking about a game like it

1296
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 3: really is. You enter into the buy and you start

1297
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 3: thinking about all the things that you want to fix,

1298
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 3: and I'm sure that's how these players feel. But then

1299
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 3: you don't really get a chance until you head back

1300
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 3: out there. So I'm sure they're excited to take on

1301
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 3: the forty nine ers in Santa Clara this time around, Rabes.

1302
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 3: When you look at the forty nine ers, they are

1303
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:00,879
Speaker 3: a slightly different team this time around. Getting Chris McCaffrey back,

1304
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:03,360
Speaker 3: how do you think that impacts the challenge for Seattle

1305
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 3: on Sunday?

1306
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 20: Well, I think it makes it even more difficult. You know,

1307
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 20: Christian McCaffrey is as good as there is. He's been

1308
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 20: variously described by a lot of people as maybe the

1309
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 20: best overall running back in the NFL. And it's not

1310
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:19,799
Speaker 20: just because he runs the ball.

1311
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 1: Well.

1312
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Speaker 20: I mean, he's not the biggest, he's not the strongest,

1313
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 20: he's not the fastest, but he is very elusive. He

1314
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 20: finds a way to break tackles, he falls forward, and

1315
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:31,840
Speaker 20: maybe most importantly as a running back, he is a

1316
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 20: terrific receiver and that's what separates him from a lot

1317
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 20: of running backs. You know, in his first game back

1318
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:42,839
Speaker 20: the other day after having his achilles tendon issues for

1319
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:45,320
Speaker 20: the first half of the season, he had more receptions

1320
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 20: than he did carry. Well, he actually had thirteen carries,

1321
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 20: but he had more yardage in receiving than rushing. So

1322
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 20: he is really pretty is a really good quarterback, solid quarterback.

1323
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 20: But it's McCaffrey who's or the drink. And all you

1324
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 20: have to do is look at their record to see that.

1325
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:06,839
Speaker 20: You know, they they weren't that dominating team that they've

1326
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 20: been the last few years without him in the lineup.

1327
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 5: Rabel, what did you do during your bye week? Did

1328
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:16,279
Speaker 5: you just not talk the whole time? Because I wish

1329
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 5: I could have been there for that.

1330
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:21,319
Speaker 20: I actually I actually went down to the stadium and

1331
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:27,840
Speaker 20: just sat there longingly wishing were to call a football game. Uh,

1332
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 20: you know, I don't even remember. I think we've just

1333
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 20: been busy doing stuff and and so that's you know,

1334
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:37,840
Speaker 20: you you take that week off and and you know,

1335
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 20: we didn't go anywhere, We didn't do anything like that.

1336
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 20: And actually this last weekend, all I did was watch football. So,

1337
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:48,759
Speaker 20: like Charon said, you just you can't really get away

1338
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:52,720
Speaker 20: from it, can I said, no, not really. Watched college

1339
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 20: all day Saturday and Pros all day Sunday, and I'm

1340
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 20: ready to kind of get back into the flow of

1341
00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:57,800
Speaker 20: things now.

1342
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Speaker 6: Raves, I saw a stat today that surprised me a

1343
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:04,400
Speaker 6: little bit, But then when I think about the Niners

1344
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:07,879
Speaker 6: and how they operate, it didn't Perdy has twenty three

1345
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 6: rushing first down second on the team. He's underrated when

1346
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 6: it comes to as elusiveness.

1347
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Speaker 7: Would you agree?

1348
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 20: I would, And I think part of that bump is

1349
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:22,799
Speaker 20: the pressure that all those other guys around him put

1350
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:25,240
Speaker 20: on the defense. I mean, you're not gonna let Deebo

1351
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 20: Samuel run down the field on you. You're not gonna let

1352
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 20: Kittle beat you on a deep crossing route. So your

1353
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 20: linebackers are turning and running, your defensive backs are hooking

1354
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 20: up and running downfield, and all of a sudden, if

1355
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 20: you don't get to Purdy, he gets to the line

1356
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 20: of scrimmage and there's you know, ten fifteen yards in

1357
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 20: front of him. So and they tend to stay ahead

1358
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 20: of the six. So if he has to rush for

1359
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:52,919
Speaker 20: a first out, it's not like he has to run

1360
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:55,840
Speaker 20: for twenty five yards. You know, six yards, five yards,

1361
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 20: four yards will do it. So there's probably a lot

1362
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 20: of reasons why that stat works for the Niners, But

1363
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 20: the bottom line is, you're right. He does a lot

1364
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 20: of things really well. He reads, he throws, on timing,

1365
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 20: he knows his receivers. They're very much all on the

1366
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 20: same page. So unless you do what Mike McDonald said

1367
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 20: just yesterday, and that is we got to get to

1368
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 20: him more. We pressured him, but we didn't get him

1369
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 20: off his market as much as we should have, and

1370
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 20: we certainly didn't sack him the way they need to

1371
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:27,239
Speaker 20: sack him, or at least get a hit on him

1372
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:31,400
Speaker 20: and make him really uncomfortable back there. And that's going

1373
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:32,800
Speaker 20: to be a real key come Sunday.

1374
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:36,280
Speaker 3: Hey, we had Jerk Reid in with us earlier today, Rabes,

1375
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 3: and he said, you play your best football in the

1376
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 3: second half of the year. And obviously that's not true

1377
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 3: all the time for every team, but it could be

1378
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:46,840
Speaker 3: true for a Seahawks team that had to install a

1379
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 3: brand new defense and had a new coaching staff. Where

1380
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 3: are some areas you think the Seahawks could potentially improve

1381
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 3: in these last eight weeks?

1382
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 20: Well, I think certainly, and Mike would agree with this,

1383
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 20: and I think everybody else would agree. We just need

1384
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 20: to get more solid offensively, and that starts up front.

1385
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 20: It's well known around the league. We've got really terrific receivers.

1386
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:11,839
Speaker 20: We know what these guys can do. We know what

1387
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 20: JFN can do. He was spectacular two weeks ago now

1388
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 20: or almost two weeks ago in the loss of the Rams.

1389
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 20: Tyler is always steady, stealth. I wish were healthy because

1390
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 20: he was really coming into his at tight end. But

1391
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 20: we really need to play better upfront, and that's going

1392
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:32,920
Speaker 20: to help with the running game first, and then the

1393
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:35,920
Speaker 20: passing game second. And most importantly, it's going to keep

1394
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 20: you in front of the six so that you're not

1395
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 20: looking at third and fifteen, third and twenty because those

1396
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:45,239
Speaker 20: are almost impossible to pick up. So I think the

1397
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:50,440
Speaker 20: defense showed some movement in the right direction this last weekend.

1398
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 20: More pressure, better tackling, tighter coverage, not letting guys get

1399
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:58,360
Speaker 20: out on big plays and run down field, which is

1400
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:01,839
Speaker 20: what we saw against the Niners just a few weeks ago. Yeah,

1401
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 20: my first point would be to the offensive front.

1402
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, and you know it's kind of interesting.

1403
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 5: Rabes during you know, I felt like they got a

1404
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:14,319
Speaker 5: lot better against the run, and the stats bared that out.

1405
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 5: But pretty interesting with you know, you look back and go, oh,

1406
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 5: we thought we were set with the two inside backers,

1407
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 5: and we cut one and traded another and traded for

1408
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 5: another guy to come in. Now we've got a rookie starting.

1409
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 5: Just kind of an interesting transaction. And I think you

1410
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 5: just kind of have to trust what Mike McDonald is seeing.

1411
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 20: Right Well, absolutely, I mean, they see it much more

1412
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 20: detailed than we do. Now. Not everybody is, you know,

1413
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 20: a former NFL linebacker of a decade or a better day,

1414
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 20: so they don't see sometimes the things that you see

1415
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 20: during the game, and certainly when you're watching the video

1416
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 20: after the game, and that's what coaches do. They look

1417
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 20: at it and they get the very specifics of are

1418
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 20: you taking the right angle, are you leading with the

1419
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 20: right shoulder, You're taking on the guy in the right place,

1420
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 20: you know, all those all those intricracies that make a

1421
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 20: defense work. And ultimately, if they have come to the

1422
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 20: decision that we need to make a move here, you know,

1423
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 20: why why prolong it? Why not see the young guy?

1424
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 20: We kind of know what what Tyree's Knight can do.

1425
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 20: We've heard about Drake Thomas, We've seen him a little bit. Also,

1426
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:30,320
Speaker 20: teams play so much for for receiver offenses now that

1427
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 20: you almost have to go nickel or dime defensive packages,

1428
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:37,919
Speaker 20: and so you're taking a linebacker out anyway. So I'm

1429
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 20: gonna I'm gonna lean toward what the coaches believe. I mean,

1430
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 20: you know, te Dot was a great guy, it seemed

1431
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 20: that way anyway, a good teammate, all those things. It

1432
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 20: just wasn't working out. So now let's see if these

1433
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 20: two new guys working together, Ernest and Ernest, Jones and Knight,

1434
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 20: and if they can make a difference. Seemingly it will,

1435
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 20: at least Jones had so far revs.

1436
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 6: The Seahawks are the only team to throw for over

1437
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 6: three hundred yards against the Niners, more out of necessity

1438
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 6: because they couldn't run the rock.

1439
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 8: Sounds like we might see Abe Lucas.

1440
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:15,920
Speaker 6: I've been, you know, trying to be realistic with my

1441
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:18,479
Speaker 6: expectations from Abe. He hasn't played in a long time.

1442
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 6: You still got to get into some game shape. How

1443
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 6: do you think he affects the run game in just

1444
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:24,440
Speaker 6: this team in general?

1445
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 7: If he does play well.

1446
00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 20: First of all, that's the big is I hope he does.

1447
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 20: I've talked to him now on a couple of occasions

1448
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 20: in the last few weeks, and he's raring to go.

1449
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 20: He's chopping at the bit. But that said, you know,

1450
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:42,440
Speaker 20: there are a host of other people who are involved

1451
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 20: in this decision, starting with the player performance people, starting

1452
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 20: with the medical staff, and they have ways of testing

1453
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:52,200
Speaker 20: things like these. We used to have a machine, I

1454
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 20: don't remember what it's called now, but it had a

1455
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:57,400
Speaker 20: little motor in it and you would you would kick

1456
00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 20: your leg, you know, you'd sit and you do legs tibex,

1457
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 20: thank you, thank you. And it was maybe the most

1458
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 20: hated thing in the history of training rooms, at least

1459
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:12,760
Speaker 20: in my incident, because you'd work it until total fatigue,

1460
01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:16,600
Speaker 20: and they could measure what that strength was in that knee,

1461
01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 20: both kicking out and pulling back and simple tests. It

1462
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 20: killed us trying to do it, but it also gave

1463
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:27,640
Speaker 20: the trainers a heck of a lot of information that said,

1464
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:29,680
Speaker 20: you know, your your leg just isn't as strong as

1465
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:31,400
Speaker 20: you think it is, whether you want to get out

1466
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:34,680
Speaker 20: there or not, or as Davids and Bump as we

1467
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:37,320
Speaker 20: know back in the old days, it's close enough, let's

1468
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 20: go get out there. And so I hope that that

1469
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 20: he is able to play. But if he's not, you know,

1470
01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:47,280
Speaker 20: rest of the guy's got to pick up the slack

1471
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:50,440
Speaker 20: and block well because this is a defense that's going

1472
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 20: to come after Geno.

1473
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 2: We know that he is the voice of the Xty Rabel.

1474
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:58,439
Speaker 3: Thanks Ripes, Thanks right, okay, see Brave.

1475
01:00:58,520 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 2: Roberts joins us next.

1476
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:04,160
Speaker 11: This is the Huddle every Thursday from noon to two.

1477
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:05,920
Speaker 1: On Seattle Sports.

1478
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:09,280
Speaker 3: You are listening to the Huddle. Ray Roberts joining us

1479
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:11,040
Speaker 3: right now. You're gonna hear more from Ray on the

1480
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 3: Seahawks pre and post game show, but a little preview

1481
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 3: here for the forty nine ers, Like, Ray, how's it going.

1482
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 21: I'm doing all right, trying to stay dry. You know,

1483
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:20,880
Speaker 21: I was driving down here and it reminded me of

1484
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 21: being in Detroit around this time of the year and

1485
01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:26,280
Speaker 21: it's cold, and it's snowing and it's windy, and you know,

1486
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 21: we had the dome we could practice in. But every

1487
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 21: year around this time of the year, they would schedule

1488
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:33,919
Speaker 21: the Monster Truck Tour and then they would take over

1489
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:36,040
Speaker 21: the dome and we would have to be outside in

1490
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:37,720
Speaker 21: the cold truck.

1491
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:39,200
Speaker 4: Oh, it was just like you'd.

1492
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:40,520
Speaker 21: Be like, man, like, you just want to go like

1493
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:43,720
Speaker 21: poke holes in the tires of the monster truck. It's

1494
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:47,000
Speaker 21: freezing out there. The snow is flying, blowing sideways, and

1495
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:48,080
Speaker 21: it's just as ridiculous.

1496
01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:49,080
Speaker 2: Did you ever get a drive one?

1497
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:50,720
Speaker 3: Like if I was a player, I'd be like, Hi,

1498
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 3: I'm a Detroit Lion and I want to drive this

1499
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:53,200
Speaker 3: monster truck.

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01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:55,480
Speaker 21: You know, I never thought about that, but uh, you

1501
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:57,680
Speaker 21: know I probably should have. I went to a couple

1502
01:01:57,760 --> 01:01:59,120
Speaker 21: of them just because I just wanted to see what

1503
01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 21: it was all about. But I was usually angry that

1504
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:02,360
Speaker 21: they hit kicked us out.

1505
01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:03,480
Speaker 2: You would have been proud of the.

1506
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:07,880
Speaker 5: Maybe maybe the lions are more important than a monster

1507
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:09,840
Speaker 5: truck rally these days, You see what I'm saying.

1508
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:12,640
Speaker 21: They like, I guarantee you right now they're not getting

1509
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:15,160
Speaker 21: kicked out of their practice facility. But yeah, we had

1510
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:16,960
Speaker 21: to practice in the in the Kingdom, I mean in

1511
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 21: a silver dome.

1512
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:18,040
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1513
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:19,360
Speaker 4: And uh and so around this.

1514
01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:22,000
Speaker 6: Time, I'm like, your practice facility was that big that

1515
01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:24,480
Speaker 6: they held monster truck deals in there?

1516
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:26,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, because we just had the big silver dome.

1517
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 21: And then outdoor fields, and so then we didn't have

1518
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 21: like all the cool stuff like they have now with

1519
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:33,840
Speaker 21: the indoor facilities in practice in the dome in.

1520
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:35,760
Speaker 17: The dome and so then but.

1521
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:38,920
Speaker 21: It's like you have all year to do, all spring,

1522
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:40,880
Speaker 21: all off season to do the monster truck now and

1523
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 21: then so they have to but truck in all this

1524
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 21: dirt and all kinds. I mean, it's just ridiculous. So

1525
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:49,520
Speaker 21: we'd be outside for like two weeks practicing in the cold.

1526
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:52,560
Speaker 3: Let's get to more important, absolutely, the Seahawks taking on

1527
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:56,640
Speaker 3: the forty nine Ers this Sunday. We've seen them through

1528
01:02:57,120 --> 01:02:59,240
Speaker 3: ten weeks so far this season. We've also seen them

1529
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:00,960
Speaker 3: in one game against forty nine ers. I'm going to

1530
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:03,520
Speaker 3: start on offense, right, what's something that you'd love to

1531
01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:06,480
Speaker 3: see more of offensively in this game in Santa Clara.

1532
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:09,200
Speaker 21: Well, I think that I've kind of given up on

1533
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:11,360
Speaker 21: the like, hey, we need to you know, run the

1534
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:13,120
Speaker 21: ball and find a way to do it. I mean

1535
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:15,520
Speaker 21: because at some point, you you know, as a coach

1536
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 21: and as a team, you have to go like, well,

1537
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:19,680
Speaker 21: what's working, Like that's what we need to lean on,

1538
01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:22,440
Speaker 21: and then we can kind of mitigate those other things

1539
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:24,919
Speaker 21: and so I think, you know, just from what I've seen,

1540
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:28,720
Speaker 21: like the they can do some damage in the passing game,

1541
01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:31,480
Speaker 21: but they do need some type of running game to

1542
01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:34,280
Speaker 21: just kind of balance things to keep the defense on us.

1543
01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:36,520
Speaker 21: And but at the end of the day, you have

1544
01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:38,800
Speaker 21: at this point of the season, they have to do

1545
01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:40,400
Speaker 21: what they have to do to win football games.

1546
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:42,000
Speaker 4: So if it means, hey.

1547
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:43,600
Speaker 21: We got to kind of fill out the offensive line

1548
01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:45,160
Speaker 21: a little bit to see how we're running the ball

1549
01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:45,880
Speaker 21: in the first quarter.

1550
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:47,640
Speaker 4: If it ain't happening, then we'll get back to it.

1551
01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:48,400
Speaker 4: We'll get back to it.

1552
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:51,040
Speaker 21: But we need to utilize these three receivers and a

1553
01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:52,600
Speaker 21: couple tight ends and make it happen.

1554
01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:56,320
Speaker 5: When you look at that defense, is if one guy

1555
01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:58,280
Speaker 5: stand out, is that Bosa?

1556
01:03:58,560 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 4: Is it Fred Warren? Yeah?

1557
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:04,160
Speaker 21: Well Fred Warner always stands out because this dude is

1558
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:06,080
Speaker 21: just like a monster. You know, He's like you know

1559
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:08,200
Speaker 21: when you know when Bobby was around here in his heyday,

1560
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:10,760
Speaker 21: like you couldn't look at the Seahawks defense without Bobby

1561
01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:13,440
Speaker 21: jumping off the screen. And that's how that that's how

1562
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:16,560
Speaker 21: that guy is. And then with Bosa, man, you have

1563
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:18,600
Speaker 21: to have a plan. It's just like Hutchinson when they

1564
01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 21: played Detroit, Like, you have to have a plan whether

1565
01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 21: you're gonna chip put a tight end over there, you know, run, run,

1566
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:26,920
Speaker 21: more play action towards him to make him kind of

1567
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:29,600
Speaker 21: have to start rushing and the slow down and start

1568
01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:32,320
Speaker 21: again like that kind of stuff. So those are definitely

1569
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:33,920
Speaker 21: two dudes that you have to plan for. And if

1570
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:35,600
Speaker 21: you don't have a plan for him, they can totally

1571
01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:36,240
Speaker 21: wreck the game.

1572
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:39,000
Speaker 6: Never thought i'd see today, good old Red give up

1573
01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:40,680
Speaker 6: on the run game, man, you know.

1574
01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:43,720
Speaker 21: What, Like it's it's hard, though, but listen, it's like, uh,

1575
01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:46,600
Speaker 21: what is that old saying? Like if you keep doing

1576
01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:48,480
Speaker 21: the same thing and getting the same result, that's like

1577
01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:51,080
Speaker 21: the definition of insanity, I guess, you know. And I'm

1578
01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:52,600
Speaker 21: not I'm sure they're not going to give up on

1579
01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:54,960
Speaker 21: the run, but at some point, man, you have to

1580
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:57,560
Speaker 21: go like, well, this is what's working, man, So let's

1581
01:04:57,600 --> 01:04:59,760
Speaker 21: we're gonna have to lean in real hard on what's

1582
01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:01,280
Speaker 21: work and uh and then.

1583
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:02,160
Speaker 4: You know, keep it rolling.

1584
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:05,120
Speaker 6: I was watching, obviously watching a bunch of film of

1585
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:08,360
Speaker 6: the the Niners offense, and I love the way how

1586
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 6: they get their line and going sideways, you know, just

1587
01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:13,680
Speaker 6: going sideways and creating angles, and I don't think I

1588
01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:16,960
Speaker 6: see a lot of that with with the Seahawks.

1589
01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:19,280
Speaker 8: Do you think that's something that maybe they can implement.

1590
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:21,840
Speaker 21: Well, you know, I'll be on with Dave a little

1591
01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:23,880
Speaker 21: bit later and we'll take a deeper dive, but I

1592
01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:29,520
Speaker 21: do think that I do think that you have to

1593
01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:33,080
Speaker 21: figure out what this offensive line does well and then

1594
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:36,200
Speaker 21: marry it with what the running back does. And to me,

1595
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:39,560
Speaker 21: that's a challenge because I think you have two different

1596
01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:41,480
Speaker 21: skill sets, two different styles.

1597
01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 4: You know.

1598
01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:44,760
Speaker 21: Knan is more of a juke and jive, make you miss,

1599
01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:47,920
Speaker 21: reverse the field, all that kind of stuff, and that

1600
01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:50,760
Speaker 21: tends to lend itself to like more pin and pull,

1601
01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:54,640
Speaker 21: you know, uh, trying to create angles type of run game,

1602
01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:58,160
Speaker 21: whereas the offense line seems to be more downhill running,

1603
01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:01,400
Speaker 21: like for more physical Derrick Henry type running the ball,

1604
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:03,600
Speaker 21: and Canon is not that type of runner. And so

1605
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:05,360
Speaker 21: there's a little bit of a conflict there that they

1606
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:06,920
Speaker 21: have to solve. And I don't know that you can

1607
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 21: do that just in you know, eight or nine days

1608
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:12,440
Speaker 21: in the you know, doing the bidweek.

1609
01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:14,440
Speaker 3: I didn't save you much time for this one. So

1610
01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:16,480
Speaker 3: just probably what's it mean to get a Lucas back

1611
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:18,600
Speaker 3: on Sunday. If he is out there, I shouldn't confirm.

1612
01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:20,560
Speaker 21: Well, if he can play the way that you know,

1613
01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:21,960
Speaker 21: if he can just pick up where he left off,

1614
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:24,120
Speaker 21: it's gonna it's gonna work. Wonders for the running game

1615
01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:26,600
Speaker 21: because this dude is to me, when he's playing his

1616
01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:28,560
Speaker 21: best football, he's one of the best run blockers in

1617
01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:30,560
Speaker 21: the league. And then and then he also is a

1618
01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:33,760
Speaker 21: very efficient pass blocker. So you have an immediate upgrade

1619
01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:35,600
Speaker 21: and then a person that you can lean on when

1620
01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:38,600
Speaker 21: you're like, we need that one yard, let's run behind eight.

1621
01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. There's a great chance you're

1622
01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:40,520
Speaker 4: gonna get it.

1623
01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:43,880
Speaker 3: Wyman, You and Ray will have plenty to talk about,

1624
01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:46,840
Speaker 3: including hopefully monster trucks later. You guys don't, I'll be

1625
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:47,800
Speaker 3: very disappointed.

1626
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:50,320
Speaker 4: I wrote that one down Roberts.

1627
01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:52,680
Speaker 3: Hear more from Ray Sunday on the Seahawks Prey and

1628
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:53,600
Speaker 3: postgame show.

1629
01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:56,480
Speaker 2: You guys have long days out of you this weekend.

1630
01:06:56,560 --> 01:06:58,400
Speaker 2: Let's hope it comes with a win. Don't go anywhere.

1631
01:06:58,440 --> 01:06:58,960
Speaker 2: This is the huddle.

1632
01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:03,240
Speaker 11: This He's the huddle. Every Thursday from noon to two.

1633
01:07:03,240 --> 01:07:04,640
Speaker 1: On Seattle Sports.

1634
01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:07,560
Speaker 3: You are listening to that all with Dave Whyman, Michael Bompas,

1635
01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:12,000
Speaker 3: Stacy Roskin joining us right now, John Boyle. We are

1636
01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:14,680
Speaker 3: getting ready for Round two against the San Francisco forty

1637
01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:17,840
Speaker 3: nine ers, And unfortunately the forty nine ers got Christian

1638
01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:18,440
Speaker 3: McCaffrey back.

1639
01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:20,200
Speaker 19: I mean, good for him, good for them, good for him,

1640
01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:22,880
Speaker 19: bad for bad, tough for the Yeah.

1641
01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:25,200
Speaker 13: Because god damn good football player.

1642
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:26,000
Speaker 2: He absolutely is.

1643
01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:29,000
Speaker 3: However, that being said, and the last time we saw

1644
01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:31,840
Speaker 3: the Seahawks defense, they're pretty solid against the run. This

1645
01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:34,720
Speaker 3: isn't me promising they're going to be better against Christian McCaffrey.

1646
01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:37,360
Speaker 3: But where defensively did you see them maybe take a

1647
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:39,520
Speaker 3: step forward against that Rams team?

1648
01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:39,880
Speaker 20: Yeah?

1649
01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:41,680
Speaker 13: I mean you just said the run defense.

1650
01:07:41,720 --> 01:07:43,480
Speaker 19: So I think the Rams averaged two point eight to

1651
01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:46,040
Speaker 19: carry in that game, and before that, the Sacs were

1652
01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:48,880
Speaker 19: allowing you know, close to five a carry in most

1653
01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:51,520
Speaker 19: of their recent games. So that was a huge improvement.

1654
01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:54,080
Speaker 19: And as Mike McDonald's been saying over and over again,

1655
01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:55,600
Speaker 19: for them to do the stuff they want to do

1656
01:07:55,640 --> 01:07:58,480
Speaker 19: on defense, get you know, the pressures, get the turnovers,

1657
01:07:58,560 --> 01:07:59,400
Speaker 19: affect the quarterback.

1658
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:01,400
Speaker 13: You got to get teams in third and long.

1659
01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:03,760
Speaker 19: Situation, So that was a big step in the right

1660
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:06,000
Speaker 19: Directionank they for seven, three and out, so there's a

1661
01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:08,120
Speaker 19: lot to like about the defense last last game.

1662
01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:11,800
Speaker 5: So John will take us through the Dodson thing. That

1663
01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:15,280
Speaker 5: was maybe the biggest. Yeah, the trade was was big,

1664
01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:16,920
Speaker 5: But I mean, you go into the season, you got

1665
01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:19,400
Speaker 5: two guys, you think you're gonna go with trade one

1666
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:22,439
Speaker 5: and cut the other. Tell us about that that process

1667
01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:25,559
Speaker 5: and kind of some of the feelings from John and Mike.

1668
01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:28,680
Speaker 19: Yeah, I mean it sounds like, you know, is Mike

1669
01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:30,880
Speaker 19: McDonald tolls before the buy everything's on the table, they

1670
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:32,280
Speaker 19: were gonna kind of do a deep dive, and so

1671
01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:35,320
Speaker 19: clearly from what they studied and what they evaluated, they

1672
01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:37,200
Speaker 19: decided they wanted to give tyres Night a chance. And

1673
01:08:37,720 --> 01:08:39,760
Speaker 19: then I think it comes down to are you gonna make,

1674
01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:42,600
Speaker 19: you know, this veteran starting caliber guy be a backup

1675
01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:44,400
Speaker 19: or give him a chance. Sounds like they kind of

1676
01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:46,200
Speaker 19: wanted to give him a shot to go see what's

1677
01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:48,639
Speaker 19: out there and get a chance. And obviously Tyrol got

1678
01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:51,240
Speaker 19: claimed by Miami, So you know, it's not shocking that

1679
01:08:51,280 --> 01:08:53,640
Speaker 19: they'd go out and evaluate things and will change, you know,

1680
01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:55,439
Speaker 19: change the starting job. But I was a little surprised

1681
01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:57,400
Speaker 19: that they decided to wave him as well, but you know,

1682
01:08:57,560 --> 01:08:59,400
Speaker 19: sometimes these decisions are tough in football.

1683
01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:03,680
Speaker 6: Any any idea what that was like for Mike McDonald. Right,

1684
01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:07,360
Speaker 6: he's cut Baker and then you cut Dotson. What's the

1685
01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:09,920
Speaker 6: process like, because some guys are just cold, like, all right, man,

1686
01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:11,720
Speaker 6: you're done, sign your papers, give me to play, but

1687
01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:15,120
Speaker 6: you're out of here. Any inkling with how the process

1688
01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:15,600
Speaker 6: is with me?

1689
01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:17,160
Speaker 13: You know, I don't think we have a great feel

1690
01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:17,599
Speaker 13: for that yet.

1691
01:09:17,680 --> 01:09:19,400
Speaker 19: He hasn't gotten into in depth in that, but I

1692
01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:21,920
Speaker 19: mean he's he's talked about like in just in general terms,

1693
01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:25,000
Speaker 19: like he doesn't want it to feel like a transactional relationship,

1694
01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:27,680
Speaker 19: and he you know, you know, a big part of

1695
01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:29,360
Speaker 19: this job for him, going back to when you just

1696
01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:32,879
Speaker 19: started coaching high school football, is like it's the connection

1697
01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:34,960
Speaker 19: with players, and it's you know, working.

1698
01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:36,160
Speaker 13: With those guys and helping them improve.

1699
01:09:36,280 --> 01:09:38,400
Speaker 19: You know, he talks about his players and his people,

1700
01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:40,360
Speaker 19: So I'm sure it's you know, like most coaches, I

1701
01:09:40,400 --> 01:09:41,720
Speaker 19: think it's tough when you have to do these things,

1702
01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:44,200
Speaker 19: Like it's not an easy thing to decide, like, hey,

1703
01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:46,120
Speaker 19: you're out of here or you're losing your job or

1704
01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:48,600
Speaker 19: whatever it is. So yeah, I don't think it's just

1705
01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:49,760
Speaker 19: some cutthroat thing for him.

1706
01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:51,760
Speaker 3: It's such an interesting thing, though, to turn to a

1707
01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:53,559
Speaker 3: rookie that we have not seen a lot of. Because

1708
01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:56,439
Speaker 3: Dotson was leading the team in snap counts and had

1709
01:09:56,439 --> 01:09:59,280
Speaker 3: the most snapcounts of any player for the last several weeks,

1710
01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:01,200
Speaker 3: it's not like we kind of saw it coming. And

1711
01:10:01,439 --> 01:10:04,760
Speaker 3: it's just interesting because juxtaposed with going for you know,

1712
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:07,519
Speaker 3: trading Jerome Baker and bringing in Ernest Jones, it felt like, Oh,

1713
01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:09,639
Speaker 3: they're going for it, like they're trying to remain competitive,

1714
01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:12,200
Speaker 3: and this feels like a we're building, We're giving guys

1715
01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:14,559
Speaker 3: time and willing to take the struggles that come along

1716
01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:14,720
Speaker 3: with that.

1717
01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:17,080
Speaker 2: Where do you think this team sees itself Yeah, you know, I.

1718
01:10:17,439 --> 01:10:19,439
Speaker 13: Don't they see themselves being right in the middle.

1719
01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:21,760
Speaker 19: I don't see this as a, oh, we're building for

1720
01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:23,720
Speaker 19: the future and we're not concerned about winning now.

1721
01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:25,560
Speaker 13: Like I think they think they.

1722
01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:29,400
Speaker 19: Do this because they want to get better, But you know,

1723
01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:31,920
Speaker 19: in terms of where they see themselves, like, yeah, they've

1724
01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:35,720
Speaker 19: struggled lately, for sure, but they've seen the improvement, especially defensively,

1725
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:38,240
Speaker 19: last week and they're looking like, Hey, the whole NFCUS

1726
01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:40,439
Speaker 19: is right there and they want you know, Geo Smith

1727
01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:42,639
Speaker 19: talked about that today, like they feel like they're still

1728
01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:43,800
Speaker 19: right in the middle of it, and yeah, you got

1729
01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:45,840
Speaker 19: to start winning a lot of games here, but they

1730
01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:48,280
Speaker 19: you know, this recent slide for them did not put

1731
01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:49,680
Speaker 19: them in some huge hole where there are four or

1732
01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:51,240
Speaker 19: five games behind the division leader.

1733
01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:55,280
Speaker 5: What was McDonald What was he like during the during

1734
01:10:55,320 --> 01:10:58,080
Speaker 5: the bye week? I mean, just hanging around here working

1735
01:10:58,080 --> 01:10:59,439
Speaker 5: hard as ever sounds.

1736
01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:01,599
Speaker 19: I mean, I wasn't here for most of it, fortunately,

1737
01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:03,360
Speaker 19: so I didn't get to run into him too much.

1738
01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:06,120
Speaker 19: But uh, you were off doing battle. Yeah, I was

1739
01:11:06,160 --> 01:11:11,040
Speaker 19: traveling with three little girls. Saw bumping the airport witness.

1740
01:11:11,080 --> 01:11:15,479
Speaker 6: My man was calm and cool though he.

1741
01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:14,880
Speaker 13: Had He came up behind me.

1742
01:11:14,920 --> 01:11:18,240
Speaker 19: Was like, get those kids out of the way.

1743
01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:19,519
Speaker 13: He kicked a three year old.

1744
01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:20,400
Speaker 2: You can't believe that.

1745
01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:22,439
Speaker 13: I heard that too, No, but I.

1746
01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:24,800
Speaker 19: Mean it sounds like, you know, probably most coaches were

1747
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:26,760
Speaker 19: here for most of that week and just putting in

1748
01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:28,640
Speaker 19: a lot of work, trying to solve some of the

1749
01:11:28,720 --> 01:11:30,879
Speaker 19: issues that have hurt this team in recent losses.

1750
01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:33,880
Speaker 7: DK was full participant in practice the other day.

1751
01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:36,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, so it sounds like he's gonna go I would

1752
01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:36,680
Speaker 6: think so.

1753
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:38,080
Speaker 19: I mean he said like he said, you know, I

1754
01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:39,719
Speaker 19: don't know, I got the other and with any injury,

1755
01:11:39,720 --> 01:11:41,080
Speaker 19: you gotta you do have to get through the week.

1756
01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:41,840
Speaker 4: Like that part's legit.

1757
01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:42,839
Speaker 13: You gotta see how responds.

1758
01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:45,280
Speaker 19: But generally, if you guys at full party spent Wednesday,

1759
01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:46,920
Speaker 19: if they're putting them up at the podium and talk

1760
01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:49,160
Speaker 19: to the media like usually when there's some real question

1761
01:11:49,160 --> 01:11:51,640
Speaker 19: about availability, he's probably not talking to the media on

1762
01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:52,080
Speaker 19: a Wednesday.

1763
01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:54,320
Speaker 13: But again, you always praftice.

1764
01:11:54,320 --> 01:11:56,759
Speaker 19: It would like this is the first time he's really practice,

1765
01:11:56,760 --> 01:12:00,400
Speaker 19: So you gotta see how that near responds to Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, nothing,

1766
01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:02,960
Speaker 19: nothing set in stone, but I would think he's trending

1767
01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:03,720
Speaker 19: the right way for sure.

1768
01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:08,360
Speaker 3: Mike McDonald was asked about potentially moving Connor Williams over

1769
01:12:08,439 --> 01:12:09,680
Speaker 3: and then it was like, no, I like what we

1770
01:12:09,760 --> 01:12:12,120
Speaker 3: have right now. Do you think this team is willing

1771
01:12:12,120 --> 01:12:13,960
Speaker 3: to shuffle some pieces on the offensive line or does

1772
01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:14,479
Speaker 3: it sound.

1773
01:12:14,280 --> 01:12:15,000
Speaker 2: Like he likes what they have.

1774
01:12:15,160 --> 01:12:15,920
Speaker 13: I mean, we'll see there.

1775
01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:18,600
Speaker 19: It's always that balance on the offensive line and like

1776
01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:20,240
Speaker 19: too much shuffling.

1777
01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:21,679
Speaker 13: We always hear about continuity.

1778
01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:23,880
Speaker 19: It matters so much for that because like, if you're

1779
01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:26,479
Speaker 19: not all in sync one guy, one guy being off

1780
01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:28,400
Speaker 19: from the guy next to him can ruin a whole play.

1781
01:12:28,479 --> 01:12:30,920
Speaker 13: So you know, but we've also seen the willingness. You know,

1782
01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:32,680
Speaker 13: they've made changes it, you.

1783
01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:34,880
Speaker 19: Know, mostly right tackle because injury, but right guard they've

1784
01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:36,000
Speaker 19: been one to rotating game.

1785
01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:36,519
Speaker 13: So I don't.

1786
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:38,360
Speaker 19: I don't think anything's set in stone at this point

1787
01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:40,320
Speaker 19: on that line, you know. I think eventually they want

1788
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:43,000
Speaker 19: to find their best group and whenever a Lucas is back,

1789
01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:44,800
Speaker 19: if that's this week or next, like that would be

1790
01:12:44,840 --> 01:12:46,080
Speaker 19: big to help get things settle.

1791
01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:46,880
Speaker 13: But yeah, I don't.

1792
01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:49,320
Speaker 19: I don't think they're really like married to this has

1793
01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:50,880
Speaker 19: to be our starting five for the rest of the season.

1794
01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:52,520
Speaker 13: They're gonna keep staying competitive.

1795
01:12:53,360 --> 01:12:56,040
Speaker 5: Did you get kind of a feel from talking to

1796
01:12:56,080 --> 01:12:59,280
Speaker 5: the players who who did maybe the wildest thing during

1797
01:12:59,280 --> 01:12:59,599
Speaker 5: the bike?

1798
01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:01,160
Speaker 19: We know, I haven't heard a lot of wild bi

1799
01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:03,439
Speaker 19: week stories, just a lot of you know, spending time

1800
01:13:03,479 --> 01:13:06,599
Speaker 19: at home and you know, nothing nothing too crazy. Most

1801
01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:09,800
Speaker 19: guys are just trying to get away and Refreshingray.

1802
01:13:09,160 --> 01:13:13,960
Speaker 5: Jones went out into nature, went into nature cabin somewhere.

1803
01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:15,960
Speaker 13: Ernest Jones like, I just found a house.

1804
01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:19,200
Speaker 3: Now I need furniture, so that by we're imagining that,

1805
01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:21,280
Speaker 3: what are you guys doing furniture.

1806
01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:21,759
Speaker 2: Shopping with my wife?

1807
01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:23,799
Speaker 13: Exciting times.

1808
01:13:24,360 --> 01:13:27,240
Speaker 6: What's the what's the world on the street about the Cardinals? Man,

1809
01:13:27,479 --> 01:13:29,840
Speaker 6: they're sneaky little team.

1810
01:13:29,880 --> 01:13:31,880
Speaker 19: It's like every week you're like, oh, are they real?

1811
01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:34,000
Speaker 19: It's like they keep winning like this, It sure feels

1812
01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:35,840
Speaker 19: like they're real. So yeah, I mean, you know, maybe

1813
01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:37,920
Speaker 19: earlier in the season you look at those Arizona games,

1814
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:40,599
Speaker 19: is maybe the more winnable ones, but they sure looked

1815
01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:41,080
Speaker 19: tough as.

1816
01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:43,880
Speaker 13: Heck right now. So yeah, you can't take them.

1817
01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:44,439
Speaker 7: Lightly at all.

1818
01:13:44,479 --> 01:13:45,800
Speaker 19: I mean, they've been they've been one of the hotter

1819
01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:48,120
Speaker 19: teams in the division. And you know, Camp coming off

1820
01:13:48,160 --> 01:13:49,000
Speaker 19: another impressive win.

1821
01:13:49,200 --> 01:13:52,160
Speaker 3: These three teams, Arizona, San Francisco, the Rams played in

1822
01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:54,240
Speaker 3: three different time slots over Week ten, so we were

1823
01:13:54,280 --> 01:13:56,479
Speaker 3: able to actually sit back and watch the rest of

1824
01:13:56,479 --> 01:14:00,720
Speaker 3: the NFC West Rams only one to lose. Unfortunately, it

1825
01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:02,320
Speaker 3: would have been nice if we got to sweep the

1826
01:14:02,360 --> 01:14:04,960
Speaker 3: other way. But is there anything that you learned about

1827
01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:07,240
Speaker 3: the rest of the NFC West Taking time off to

1828
01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:08,960
Speaker 3: kind of tune in and see what they were doing.

1829
01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:10,720
Speaker 13: Yes and no.

1830
01:14:10,840 --> 01:14:12,160
Speaker 19: I mean I caught up on all the games, but

1831
01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:14,639
Speaker 19: I'm gonna not light you intests out there and watch

1832
01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:17,200
Speaker 19: football day Sunday when I was on vacation with my family.

1833
01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:18,800
Speaker 2: Because you know, you're a great dad.

1834
01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:21,000
Speaker 13: My kids and my wife are not like, Hey, let's

1835
01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:22,200
Speaker 13: spend our last day vacation.

1836
01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:23,679
Speaker 2: Do you want to watch red Zone?

1837
01:14:23,880 --> 01:14:24,080
Speaker 20: Yeah?

1838
01:14:24,240 --> 01:14:26,639
Speaker 19: You know, so we were, you know, doing other things.

1839
01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:28,599
Speaker 19: But that being said, like you know, I'm gonna read

1840
01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:31,240
Speaker 19: about it and catch catch some of the highlights efforts.

1841
01:14:31,280 --> 01:14:31,559
Speaker 13: I think.

1842
01:14:31,680 --> 01:14:32,800
Speaker 19: I think what we learned, you know, what we just

1843
01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:35,160
Speaker 19: said about Arizona's like, I think they're a legit threat

1844
01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:38,760
Speaker 19: in this division and the forty nine ers they've yet

1845
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:41,080
Speaker 19: to me, they've yet to find the consistency to be

1846
01:14:41,200 --> 01:14:43,000
Speaker 19: the team that they were last year and they wanted

1847
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:45,120
Speaker 19: to be. But with the pieces they have coming back,

1848
01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:47,639
Speaker 19: you know, it feels like you don't want to let

1849
01:14:47,640 --> 01:14:49,800
Speaker 19: them get going, like they seem probably like one of

1850
01:14:49,800 --> 01:14:51,640
Speaker 19: the more dangerous teams if they can get hot. So

1851
01:14:51,960 --> 01:14:54,400
Speaker 19: Seahawks would love to interfere with that this week if

1852
01:14:54,439 --> 01:14:54,760
Speaker 19: they can.

1853
01:14:55,400 --> 01:14:57,519
Speaker 5: Hey, Ernest Jones, if you got kind of feel for

1854
01:14:57,560 --> 01:14:59,120
Speaker 5: that guy. I know he hasn't been here very long,

1855
01:14:59,160 --> 01:15:01,800
Speaker 5: but you know, we listening to him, and you know,

1856
01:15:01,880 --> 01:15:04,639
Speaker 5: it sounds like he's he's kind of an old school guy. Yeah,

1857
01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:08,640
Speaker 5: you know, just anything stand out about his personality.

1858
01:15:08,800 --> 01:15:10,400
Speaker 19: Yeah, I mean, he kind of strikes me as sort

1859
01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:13,639
Speaker 19: of the more quiet leader type, Like he's not a loud,

1860
01:15:13,680 --> 01:15:16,280
Speaker 19: boisterous guy, but he's he brings it on game day

1861
01:15:16,280 --> 01:15:18,920
Speaker 19: and I think it's a great personality having in the

1862
01:15:18,920 --> 01:15:21,280
Speaker 19: middle year defense. Just kind of a calming guy, but

1863
01:15:21,320 --> 01:15:24,040
Speaker 19: a guy who's gonna get it done physically and you know,

1864
01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:25,080
Speaker 19: be a physical presence.

1865
01:15:25,640 --> 01:15:28,760
Speaker 6: You think Kobe has solidified himself as the guy back there.

1866
01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:29,200
Speaker 10: Yeah.

1867
01:15:29,240 --> 01:15:31,800
Speaker 19: I was actually writing about this Yesterday's Like, I don't

1868
01:15:31,840 --> 01:15:33,519
Speaker 19: know how you get him out of the lineup, but

1869
01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:36,840
Speaker 19: you know, we'll see what happens when Rasheon Jenkins is

1870
01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:38,720
Speaker 19: eligible to come back, what they decide to do. But

1871
01:15:39,840 --> 01:15:42,400
Speaker 19: he's you know, Mike McDonald loves talking about him. Every

1872
01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:44,479
Speaker 19: time you ask about Kobe, he kind of tends to

1873
01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:47,680
Speaker 19: light up, and he's he's playing really well back there.

1874
01:15:47,720 --> 01:15:48,240
Speaker 13: I think he's.

1875
01:15:48,120 --> 01:15:50,639
Speaker 19: Earned you know, whether it's a every down starting job

1876
01:15:50,760 --> 01:15:53,400
Speaker 19: or some sort of third safety role when they're healthy.

1877
01:15:53,439 --> 01:15:54,840
Speaker 13: I think we're gonna see a lot of him.

1878
01:15:54,840 --> 01:15:55,519
Speaker 7: There's the season.

1879
01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:57,639
Speaker 3: Is there another player that we may not have seen

1880
01:15:57,680 --> 01:16:00,960
Speaker 3: a ton of that you anticipate could see more time?

1881
01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:03,519
Speaker 2: Also obviously Tyree Knight. Yeah, he's going to be starting.

1882
01:16:03,560 --> 01:16:05,720
Speaker 19: But and then I mean, we've seen him last few weeks,

1883
01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:07,320
Speaker 19: but it sounds like Josh Job has kind of won

1884
01:16:07,360 --> 01:16:11,080
Speaker 19: that third quarter job, so we'll keep seeing more of him.

1885
01:16:11,240 --> 01:16:13,360
Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean we'll see, you know, we'll see if

1886
01:16:13,560 --> 01:16:14,519
Speaker 13: with with DK.

1887
01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:17,439
Speaker 19: Presumably Black, if back, if Cody White gets that shot

1888
01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:19,240
Speaker 19: to keep playing, because he looked really good in his

1889
01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:21,200
Speaker 19: first game, you'd think he's got a good shot to

1890
01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:21,639
Speaker 19: play again.

1891
01:16:21,720 --> 01:16:22,920
Speaker 13: So we'll see what they do.

1892
01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:25,360
Speaker 19: But yeah, I mean, I think to mcdonalin's point coming

1893
01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:26,960
Speaker 19: out of the BI like they're looking at everything and

1894
01:16:27,479 --> 01:16:29,160
Speaker 19: you know, maybe we'll see a few things we don't

1895
01:16:29,160 --> 01:16:32,040
Speaker 19: know about yet on Sunday.

1896
01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:35,320
Speaker 4: Specifically, it's very specific question. But you know Cody White

1897
01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:39,559
Speaker 4: that that punt block? Did he say? I never repped it.

1898
01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:40,559
Speaker 13: I think it was something like that.

1899
01:16:40,600 --> 01:16:42,160
Speaker 19: It's like something that kind of drew up on the

1900
01:16:42,200 --> 01:16:45,120
Speaker 19: sideline of like something they'd seen and they hadn't reaped,

1901
01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:46,559
Speaker 19: but yeah, he made it sound like they hadn't really

1902
01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:49,160
Speaker 19: repped that particular Yeah. Look at practice, they drew it

1903
01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:51,920
Speaker 19: up on the sideline. I think I doubt again I'm sound.

1904
01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:54,040
Speaker 19: I'm remembering a quote I read two weeks ago.

1905
01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:56,120
Speaker 5: So, but that's what it sounds about, yeah to me,

1906
01:16:56,160 --> 01:16:59,840
Speaker 5: because I was like, really, yeah, because he ran that perfectly. Yeah,

1907
01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:03,439
Speaker 5: Rusty Tillman, our old late great Rusty Stillman, special team coach.

1908
01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:05,800
Speaker 5: I've said this number of times on our show, But

1909
01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:09,000
Speaker 5: it was just I know he's proud somewhere because that

1910
01:17:09,160 --> 01:17:10,519
Speaker 5: was perfectly executed.

1911
01:17:10,600 --> 01:17:10,960
Speaker 13: Yeah.

1912
01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:12,919
Speaker 5: And so I don't know, I just thought the instincts

1913
01:17:12,920 --> 01:17:14,800
Speaker 5: you mentioned Cody White, and I was just like, as

1914
01:17:14,840 --> 01:17:16,800
Speaker 5: one of the first of all, a lot of ninety

1915
01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:19,479
Speaker 5: percent of the time you block a punt, you're gonna.

1916
01:17:19,240 --> 01:17:19,639
Speaker 4: Win the game.

1917
01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:22,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, and uh and it was just so perfectly executed

1918
01:17:22,360 --> 01:17:24,719
Speaker 5: by him, And I'm like, this kid can play football.

1919
01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:27,320
Speaker 19: Yeah, a couple of nice catches and yeah he did

1920
01:17:27,560 --> 01:17:28,439
Speaker 19: threw drew a flag.

1921
01:17:28,760 --> 01:17:29,599
Speaker 13: He played a good game.

1922
01:17:29,720 --> 01:17:32,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, all right, hold on, let mean I got one more.

1923
01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:33,080
Speaker 7: One more.

1924
01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:35,920
Speaker 6: First time I saw you not wearing seahawk gear was

1925
01:17:35,920 --> 01:17:38,320
Speaker 6: in the airport. Yeah, how deep is your closet in

1926
01:17:38,360 --> 01:17:39,000
Speaker 6: Seahawk gear.

1927
01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:40,200
Speaker 10: It's fairly deep.

1928
01:17:40,240 --> 01:17:42,040
Speaker 19: But I try to, you know, rotate it out because

1929
01:17:42,040 --> 01:17:43,640
Speaker 19: if it gets too full, my wife is going to

1930
01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:45,200
Speaker 19: get on the other much.

1931
01:17:45,360 --> 01:17:46,519
Speaker 4: You don't wear it on the road, though.

1932
01:17:46,520 --> 01:17:48,439
Speaker 8: Who's that moment?

1933
01:17:48,479 --> 01:17:51,000
Speaker 7: Man? That's proud of my guy? I know three kids.

1934
01:17:51,040 --> 01:17:51,160
Speaker 4: Man.

1935
01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:52,599
Speaker 2: He is John Boyleer.

1936
01:17:52,600 --> 01:17:54,599
Speaker 3: You can read his work at Seahawks dot com here.

1937
01:17:54,720 --> 01:17:57,000
Speaker 3: Wyman on the Call with Rabel this weekend Bump on

1938
01:17:57,040 --> 01:17:58,400
Speaker 3: the Seahawks pre and post game show.

1939
01:17:58,439 --> 01:17:59,639
Speaker 2: This has been the Hottle Oil