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Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.

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Speaker 2: I'm an executive.

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Speaker 1: Producer who have produced some of your favorite shows from

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Speaker 1: the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey and my own creation,

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Speaker 1: The Love and Marriage Franchise and Bell Collective. Every episode

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Speaker 1: we recap reality television from the Real Housewives franchise to

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Speaker 1: The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in addition to celebrity guests,

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Speaker 1: whether in the unscripted space or scripted as well.

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Speaker 3: Hey, rain Drops, on today's episode Reality with the King,

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Speaker 3: it is keet and Afraid Dating Naked or Naked Wasted

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Speaker 3: Part two. So we're going to discuss the most recent

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Speaker 3: episode of The.

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Speaker 2: Real house watch Sports County.

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Speaker 3: And she's back my friend who just celebrated her. That's

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Speaker 3: her very party that we got to like at least

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Speaker 3: get a little tea about that.

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Speaker 2: But give it up.

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Speaker 3: And before I introduce her, I want to thank the

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Speaker 3: rain Drops for embracing her. The feedback has been won

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Speaker 3: the pole. I've been getting stopped in the street saying like,

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Speaker 3: we we like your recaps with her, like keep it going.

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Speaker 2: So as long as she says yes, I'm gonna keep

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Speaker 2: doing it.

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Speaker 3: But give it up with my friend the beautiful Alexis Bilino.

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Speaker 4: Hi, everybody, Oh my gosh, that was so steet. I

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Speaker 4: didn't know people are stopping you on the screen. There

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Speaker 4: was probably one person. Okay, no, it was like like

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Speaker 4: five by five.

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Speaker 3: We're like no, it's just like, hey, we we like

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Speaker 3: our recaps of Alecxuis. It's pretty fun and it's interesting

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Speaker 3: because I thank god, you know, recomments and thank god

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Speaker 3: I get not on Twitter. But I will say the

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Speaker 3: feedback on Twitter has also been fabulous. So my mistake.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't the Bachelor. Red Party was a bridal shower

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Speaker 3: that you recently celebrated. So how was that for you,

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Speaker 3: baby doll?

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Speaker 5: It's good. It was. I mean, it wasn't good. It

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Speaker 5: was amazing.

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Speaker 4: And I'm doing everything unorthodox and very untraditional in this wedding,

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Speaker 4: so that just shows you I wanted to put jewelry

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Speaker 4: on my girls instead of have some cavias, So.

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Speaker 5: There you go.

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Speaker 4: But I was they had a blast. It was It

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Speaker 4: was It was just unique because we all get.

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Speaker 5: To walk around. Of course there was orders and.

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Speaker 4: Such, but it was like it's just you're just talking,

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Speaker 4: you know, getting pierced, getting a piece of permanent jewelry,

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Speaker 4: getting a necklace.

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Speaker 5: It's just it was really cool.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: So let's say you are celebrating a milestone and this

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Speaker 3: season of Orange County has had a good season. But

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Speaker 3: before we recapped episode, I want to read you something

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Speaker 3: because you know, I'm pretty active on Twitter. I don't

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Speaker 3: want you to be though, because sometimes people can just

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Speaker 3: be mean for no reason.

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Speaker 2: They didn't mean to me. So I don't give a shit.

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Speaker 4: I have Twitter and I have a lot of followers,

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Speaker 4: but I don't I don't have enough time in the day.

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Speaker 4: I feel like right now to get on it, and

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Speaker 4: I should. I guess now that you're telling me this,

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Speaker 4: So I'm getting beat up up. I mean, you can't

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Speaker 4: get more beat up than on Instagram or at the

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Speaker 4: turn off comments Carlos. So I'm overally Oh well, look,

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Speaker 4: I like to get props due.

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Speaker 3: So this tweet is from Ksey, who's Twitter handle is

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Speaker 3: at k Baby one two three four.

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Speaker 2: He said, And I'm going to show you the proof Alexis.

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Speaker 3: He said, we was robbed of Bretchant and alexis reuniting

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Speaker 3: this season. Alexis deserve to come back. I don't give

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Speaker 3: a fuck our hoc Bravo bumbled with this line, and

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Speaker 3: the comments are in support of this, and I just

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Speaker 3: wanted you to see them proved because I'm not a.

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Speaker 2: Liar liar tady on fire, so I wanted you to

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Speaker 2: see it.

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Speaker 6: How do you.

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Speaker 3: Feel that there has been this sort of like outpour

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Speaker 3: of support for people wanting you to return this season

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Speaker 4: I kind of feel like maybe people are seeing that

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Speaker 4: it wasn't enough shown last season. There was so much

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Speaker 4: having more fun just recapping it all with you.

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Speaker 5: High five all that.

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Speaker 3: So listen, I'm just happy to be doing this with you.

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Speaker 3: So let's get right into it. You were crazy busy

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Speaker 3: last weekend.

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Speaker 2: I was too. We did not get to recap, but

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Speaker 3: Like this recent episode is sort of like part two

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Speaker 3: of last week's episode.

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Speaker 2: So listen, miss thing.

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Speaker 3: We're going to dive right into this episode and dive

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Speaker 3: right into it. I know you've seen the clips. We

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Speaker 3: have a sobby whole episode. Your friend who was at

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Speaker 3: the Bridle shop, er Tamra Judge, my girl. She left

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Speaker 3: the cast trip in New Orleans because Tamra Judge told

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Speaker 3: Gretchen and Shannon that she was told by journalists that

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Speaker 3: Katie told Monique that Gretchen told her listen to game

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Speaker 2: That Gretchen told her.

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Speaker 3: That on the night have Maked It Wasted exactly like

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Speaker 3: follow follow followed.

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Speaker 4: Carloss, we need a roadmap to show all of our

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Speaker 4: our rain drops exactly. Here's what we're talking about with

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Speaker 4: the spider websing going like you got it, though you've

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Speaker 4: got it?

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm trying, sister, okay, so okay follow long rain drops.

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Speaker 3: Tamera was told by bloggers slash journalists that Katie told

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Speaker 3: Key Key Monique a radio and the host a Dernda Medley,

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Speaker 3: that Gretchen told Katie that on the night of Maked

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Speaker 3: that camera rooted her. Gretchen busically was upset, denied it,

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Speaker 3: I think I believe Katie that Katie didn't do it.

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Speaker 3: The episode begins with Gina saying, look, I told Katie

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Speaker 3: that I believe her, But why don't you just call

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Speaker 3: Kikim Monique? And then before I get to the rest

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Speaker 3: of the episode, what do you think about all of this?

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Speaker 3: You know these girls more than I do. Does Alexis

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Speaker 3: Belino believe that Gretchen did tell Katie that she felt

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Speaker 3: Tamera rooped her in two thousand and eight, on the

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Speaker 4: Episode one million percent after watching the whole episode, because

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Speaker 4: at first you kind of go, okay, well is little

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Speaker 2: It's like both.

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Speaker 4: Katie and Gretchen got caught lying and saying one thing

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Speaker 4: what the again, another stupid life all. First of all, Carlos,

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Speaker 4: can I ask the most important question ever? Why are

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Speaker 4: we rehashing something that happened twelve frickey years ago. It

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Speaker 4: wasn't an affair with a husband. It was a stupid,

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Speaker 4: little drinking fest words. I don't think Tama was correct

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Speaker 4: and using those that verbiage and you know, making a

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Speaker 5: However, twelve years ago, Tamor's grown she's grown up a

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Speaker 4: Okay, what hasn't grown up is the fact that we're

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Speaker 4: by the way, Carlos, the one thing I want every

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Speaker 5: How would be?

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Speaker 5: How could it even be out there?

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Speaker 4: And for Gretchen to get defensive or Forgretchen to say no,

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Speaker 5: Was it Tamra, Heather and Gretchen.

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Speaker 4: When Gretchen said Gretchen was in the backseat and goes,

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Speaker 4: I did ask, and then in her interview with what

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Speaker 4: it was a Stepford Wives cartoon.

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Speaker 5: However, she's beautiful.

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Speaker 4: We all know she's beautiful, but come on, now, we

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Speaker 4: don't need a costume party on the confessional. However, she

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Speaker 4: should never have said in the back of the car,

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Speaker 5: It's like, okay, was it.

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Speaker 4: Alcohol, like she had a cocktail so then she was

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Speaker 4: don't remember their lies? What do you think about that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, It's like, hello, this This is what I've been

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Speaker 3: has done many episodes of housewives. You have been a

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Speaker 3: for sure. You and I both said from day one, like, look,

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Speaker 3: I tried to at least give you some grapes. So

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Speaker 3: let's have a real conversation. I said from day one,

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Speaker 3: I think Katie's a liar, liar pants on fire. The

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Speaker 3: Camera would get read on social media. Katie gets offended

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Speaker 2: I said, Katie.

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Speaker 3: Read the script that Matt wrote as if he was

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Speaker 3: Michael pat King the creator up and just like that,

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Speaker 3: it gave a Charlotte performance. Going back telling Miranda Kerry

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Speaker 3: Brawshaw what happened, Katie was acting, I said too.

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Speaker 2: And I love Gretchen, but one thing about my podcast,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna call things out like I see it. I

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Speaker 2: can still love you. I love Gretchen.

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Speaker 3: I think this is a great housewife I said, Gretchen

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Speaker 3: changed her tune once she called Slade. Slade said, I'll

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Speaker 3: fix this. I'm gonna call Matt. I call, I said

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Speaker 3: this last week, Ale like this, and I said that

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Speaker 3: they both they both conspired to tell this story only

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Speaker 3: when it comes to these reality shows. I agree with you.

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Speaker 3: We talked about something that happened in two thousand and eight.

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Speaker 4: You're alive, you're kicking, you look great, You're move on,

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Speaker 3: A since that Reality TV is no longer about the

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Speaker 4: It's like, what is what is it in your mind

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Speaker 4: that one time and then then very remorseful, the women

440
00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,600
Speaker 4: would have been able to have the conflict resolution, move

441
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Speaker 4: past it go on.

442
00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:42,600
Speaker 5: Right.

443
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:44,879
Speaker 4: That's the phases of the show, I think, when it

444
00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:48,760
Speaker 4: keeps happening, and now we've had two seasons of evidence

445
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,960
Speaker 4: of it where she herself not just evidence of the

446
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,680
Speaker 4: footage but of the background of everything, but the footage

447
00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,120
Speaker 4: of her actually saying, oh, I did actually do that,

448
00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:00,199
Speaker 4: and now it happened to begin this episode. How many

449
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:00,960
Speaker 4: more times is it going to.

450
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:02,560
Speaker 5: Happen this episode or this season?

451
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,119
Speaker 4: I don't know, but it's like, if you don't learn,

452
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 4: then that is where I agree with the other women.

453
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,400
Speaker 4: It's like, why would you want to You can't trust

454
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:11,360
Speaker 4: anything she's saying.

455
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 5: Because it's going to happen.

456
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 4: She's going to do it again, and like Heather, oh

457
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,000
Speaker 4: Heather said at that dinner, she goes, Katie, you scare

458
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:19,680
Speaker 4: us because what's next?

459
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 5: Like what's going to happen next?

460
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,399
Speaker 4: Because now she's lying about the blogger a keeping Monique,

461
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 4: and then she's also lying about you know, at first

462
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,880
Speaker 4: about Gretchen and by the way, we found out why

463
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 4: she was lying at first about Gretchen because Ladea called

464
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,959
Speaker 4: Matt called Matt and said, Matt, please tell Katie to lie.

465
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,239
Speaker 4: This is what has to happen where we've got this

466
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,359
Speaker 4: group together, we're alliances. She needs to lie for Matt

467
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 4: or for for Gretchen. Katie felt that at first, and

468
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,879
Speaker 4: then did it. Knew she was caught, knew she can't

469
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:47,240
Speaker 4: get out of it. She got to tell the truth.

470
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:48,880
Speaker 4: So then she tells the truth, but then no one

471
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:50,960
Speaker 4: believes her. No one's gonna believe you now because she's

472
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:51,680
Speaker 4: lied about it.

473
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:56,719
Speaker 5: So no, no, I know, I know.

474
00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:00,399
Speaker 2: It takes my breath away, so i'll I want to

475
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 2: also mention this, Katie admitted in her confessionals and rain Drops.

476
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 2: I want you guys to understand what this means.

477
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:15,479
Speaker 3: Okay, Katie in her confessionals which elections can corroborate, you

478
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 3: sometimes take your confessionals during the season, or you sometimes

479
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 3: take your confessionals after the season has wrapped and the

480
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 3: episode of being edited in real time as they're taping

481
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:33,119
Speaker 3: the scenes rain drops, we call that beverte. In real

482
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:38,479
Speaker 3: time as they're taping the scenes, Katie never admits on

483
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:45,400
Speaker 3: camera what Gretchen allegedly did Katie said in her confessionals,

484
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,119
Speaker 3: whether it was Kate during the season or once the

485
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 3: season rapped. She said that, Okay, I want you to

486
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 3: be very clear, So I'm not giving Katie no props

487
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 3: for seeing something in her confessional by herself with the

488
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 3: green screen behind her and not in the faces of

489
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:08,159
Speaker 3: her lions. Okay, Katie said that Gretchen did say in

490
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 3: front of her, Matt and Jen that that night of

491
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 3: making wasted, that she went to the hospital and they

492
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 3: found drugs in her system, and she doesn't understand why

493
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:28,399
Speaker 3: Jin isn't corroborating with this story because that's what happened.

494
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 3: I'm not giving Katie no props for that because you

495
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 3: didn't say to the faces of these ladies. But I

496
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 3: do want to ask you this. Do you think Jen

497
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 3: is protecting Gretchen?

498
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:45,439
Speaker 4: I mean, it's really hard to say no to that

499
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 4: after watching this episode. I mean, I feel I feel like,

500
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 4: like you said you prefaced the beginning of this podcast

501
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 4: with me today that that people you know there's alliances

502
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 4: on the show that is true. Where it gets dangerous

503
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,239
Speaker 4: is when your alliance is involved lying because it is

504
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 4: the problem is, no matter how deep that alliance is,

505
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,640
Speaker 4: whether it's this year, next year, twelve years from now,

506
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 4: the truth is going to come out. So it's like

507
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 4: it's like, you can't form an alliance and go like,

508
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,400
Speaker 4: let's just say, like everyone knows Tamara and our buddy

509
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 4: buddy say, I still call her out on this podcast

510
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,400
Speaker 4: and say what she should or shouldn't do. By the way,

511
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 4: my heart broke that nobody really wrapped around her when

512
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 4: she's going through the hardest thing of her life. But

513
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,199
Speaker 4: yet everyone wraps around anyone else on the cast that

514
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 4: gets you know her or whatever. So that was really

515
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 4: bus But I also call her out where she needs

516
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:30,640
Speaker 4: to be called out.

517
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 5: However, where was I going with that?

518
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 4: Now I lost it, So I'm starting to get worried

519
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 4: about Tamor.

520
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 2: But where was I going? I was asking you, do

521
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 2: you believe jin is protecting me?

522
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:42,680
Speaker 5: Yeah?

523
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 4: Okay, So where I was going with that is is

524
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,120
Speaker 4: that if you lie for it, Like even if Tammar

525
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 4: came to me and said, go on next episode or

526
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 4: next time we film, we're going to dinner or we're

527
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 4: going to play volleyball, let's just say please when they

528
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 4: bring us up lie about it and don't say it,

529
00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 4: and I'm going to go, no, Tamara, I can't do

530
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 4: that because it's gonna come all all come out, and

531
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 4: then we're both of aos like idiots, like like everyone's

532
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 4: looking kind of now and just wait, this is only

533
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 4: the beginning.

534
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 5: I don't even think.

535
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 4: I think next episode is still gonna have more coming, Carlo,

536
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 4: that's what I think. I don't know, But I was

537
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,920
Speaker 4: right about the kicking thing. There's more footage, there's more

538
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,879
Speaker 4: proof and and and by the way, why didn't Katie

539
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 4: just call keeking right then or text her or DM

540
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:22,879
Speaker 4: or or do something and get to the bottom of

541
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 4: it right then? That is the best way that you

542
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 4: can just squash any lie. You know why she didn't

543
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 4: She was lying, Yeah, Kicky, Monique has no reason to

544
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 4: lie on this show. Katie has proven it time and

545
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 4: time again. She wants to lie constantly because she's got

546
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 4: a little marble loose in her head and she needs

547
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,160
Speaker 4: to go see somebody and talk about why she can't

548
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 4: just get the truth out at the beginning. What is

549
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:46,439
Speaker 4: muzzling her for the truth?

550
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 3: Okay, guys, somebody just see me because I'm I'm uplove

551
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 3: this on YouTube. Some of you so listen my listeners

552
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 3: in your car.

553
00:27:57,840 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 2: You can listen to finish, listen to this.

554
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,119
Speaker 3: I implore you to go on my YouTube channel at

555
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 3: the Carlos King Underscore to watch this because I'm so adnamated.

556
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 2: I'm uploading this on YouTube. And by the way, Alexis

557
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 2: looks smoking hot today. She always does that. She looks

558
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 2: the lighting is lighting. Okay, look I am I'm getting

559
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,360
Speaker 2: jitters as if I took my work. I'll drink because

560
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:32,159
Speaker 2: I have this. I know it's gonna sound bad, but

561
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 2: I gotta be honest.

562
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 3: I have a little bit of disdain for some of

563
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 3: the Housewives audience, a little bit of it on social media.

564
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 2: I'll say that much because they don't care about the truth.

565
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 3: They care about their own alliance to their favorite realities

566
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 3: are so so they do they do because when the

567
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 3: truth is in front of them, they make excuses for

568
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 3: their favorite person that they like in terms of the

569
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 3: show instead of being like, you know what, I love you,

570
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 3: but I can also tell you that you're wrong for this.

571
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 3: So anyways, I saw that to say Alexis hit the

572
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,719
Speaker 3: numb a head once again.

573
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 2: They tell Katie.

574
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 3: On the spot, hey, if you didn't say it, call

575
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 3: this person on the spot. When they asked her, hey

576
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 3: is episode one, show us the DM.

577
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 2: If you're telling the truth, show us the DM. She

578
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 2: claimed she had, thank you. She claims she had bad

579
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 2: li fi. In this episode, Jen said, if you're.

580
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 3: Telling the truth, called Kiki Monique, Well I'm not doing that,

581
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 3: and Katie's and Jenny's like, let's call her, and she's

582
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 3: like no, and then they flash back to the car

583
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 3: where she's like, well, if I call Kiki, she's just

584
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 3: gonna lie.

585
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 2: What what the fuck?

586
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 4: Okay, first of all, you're gonna call someone a liar

587
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 4: who has zero zero history of flying and you have.

588
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 5: Forty five just from last season to now.

589
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 2: You're gonna call hr a liar?

590
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 4: Oh okay, Kiki Mody, you better show up at Katie's

591
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 4: doorstep and say, girlfriend, you got problems.

592
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 5: Putting my name out there? Like that is getting so

593
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 5: much from us. And she really does talk of the

594
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 5: room a little hard.

595
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 3: I know, And I've been I've been on reality Check

596
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 3: that's hosted by Kiki Moneik and Derenda Medley, and look,

597
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 3: Kiki is like so sweet.

598
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 2: I'll say this about Kiki, this is the best press.

599
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 3: Of the world, tod me because you are literally the

600
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 3: ape housewife on this show. But once again is I

601
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 3: just don't understand proof after proof after proof after proof

602
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 3: that Katie is a known liar, and I think she's

603
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 3: the one who needs to see Tamra psychotherapist because.

604
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 2: I need to get down to the middle of what

605
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 2: she's going through.

606
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 3: But transitioning to Tamra, Look, Tamra is this polar riking

607
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 3: figure in real life, She's a fun girl. I think

608
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 3: Tamar also understands her assignment on the show, and she

609
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 3: gives great TV. I felt bad for tam of this episode,

610
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 3: and not because I know her. It's because I'm honest, right,

611
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 3: I'm always honest with the coup of Tamra. I'm always

612
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 3: like Tamara, I love you. But I feel so bad

613
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 3: for Tamar because now that the truth is out, and

614
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:32,479
Speaker 3: this is what I want people to understand, Camera was

615
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 3: accused of drugging somebody.

616
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 2: Which is a horrible accusation.

617
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 3: Horrible for all of you guys who hate Tamra, that's

618
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 3: your prerogative.

619
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 2: It's fine.

620
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 3: Imagine someone lying on you again. Because Tamra did her

621
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 3: job by saying, Gretchen, this is what was said. Gretchen said,

622
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 3: I never said.

623
00:31:58,120 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 2: That, guys.

624
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 3: Gretchen, out of her own mouth set I never said that,

625
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 3: which means, guys, it wasn't true.

626
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 2: Right.

627
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 3: So Gretcha is saying I didn't say it because it's

628
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 3: not true, right, because if she would have thought tamar

629
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 3: rupied her, Gretcha would have said one of two things, Yes,

630
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 3: I said it, I did feel that way, or she

631
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 3: would have said I didn't say that to Katie, but

632
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 3: I did feel that way.

633
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 2: She cried, you're not gonna hug the woman who you

634
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 2: think drugged you. You're just not. You're not gonna try

635
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 2: and hug the woman who you think drugged you.

636
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 3: So imagine being Tamra in a room where all these

637
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 3: women are now turning against you and saying, we think

638
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 3: that Katie's coming true and Tamara, you have a history

639
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 3: of lying, And it's like, for wait a second, whether

640
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 3: or not Tamarra is a villain, no.

641
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,959
Speaker 2: One should be accused of being a drummer. Like, it's

642
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 2: not okay.

643
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 3: And tamer tweeted Alexis last week that the reason why

644
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 3: she looked off is because she did.

645
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 2: Take xanax and was drinking alcohol. So that's what she said, and.

646
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,479
Speaker 4: She said it in her confessional too, so she's not

647
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 4: trying to hide it, like you know what happened.

648
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, So she said that in this episode she speaks

649
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 3: to her psychotherapist, and one thing she said that I

650
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 3: was like, you know what, I'm glad she's being honest

651
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 3: about how she's feeling, because sometimes reality starts want to

652
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 3: play it tough. The one thing she said that I

653
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 3: was like, Okay, I love this scene is when she said.

654
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 2: I want people to like me. I don't like him

655
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 2: when people don't like me. And I'm like, that's the

656
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 2: honesty that I appreciate because being the villain on the

657
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 2: show isn't easy. And although we all may have taken it,

658
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Speaker 2: she was talking about the friend group, I also believe

659
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Speaker 2: she's talking about the way the world views her. What

660
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Speaker 2: did you think about that moment?

661
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Speaker 5: Well, I think a couple of things.

662
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Speaker 4: I feel like the other part of this, which I'll

663
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Speaker 4: get to your question, but I thought the other part

664
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Speaker 4: that killed me on this episode, no matter who it

665
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 4: would have been, whether it was Tamra or Heather or

666
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 4: Gina or Emily or whoever was, I hate the fact

667
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 4: that it didn't seem authentic for any of the women

668
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 4: to actually think about what Tamra was going through in

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Speaker 4: that that was in real time, that they had just

670
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 4: found out about Teddy real time. And I was picking

671
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 4: up pieces behind the scenes on the phone with Tamara

672
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 4: all the time, just trying to get her to get

673
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,439
Speaker 4: fumped to even go film. I mean, it is a job,

674
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 4: and you do have to do hair, you have to

675
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 4: be makeup. She is crying a lot. She is constantly

676
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 4: wanting to be by Teddy's side. She had so much

677
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:49,479
Speaker 4: on her plate that was real life that it kills

678
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 4: me that none of the women look at that and

679
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 4: go wow, if that was my right hand goal, that

680
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 4: I would be not being a great place either, like

681
00:34:55,760 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 4: with Tamara. So I that kills me. And then to

682
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 4: add on top of that, the whole camera is being

683
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 4: accused of something that's not true. The whole thing is

684
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 4: just like I don't know how anyone can any of

685
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 4: those other six women or seven women wouldn't go this,

686
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 4: let's wrap around her and just hold her or just

687
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 4: just like go light on her this one episode or filming,

688
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 4: you know, or dinner or whatever.

689
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 5: So that killed me. But what was your other part

690
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,320
Speaker 5: to that question? Because I wanted to get that out about.

691
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, just about the fact that yeah, like the

692
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,879
Speaker 3: fact that she admitted that she wants people she.

693
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 2: Doesn't like that people don't like her. I thought, like that,

694
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 2: that's real.

695
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 5: That's so vulnerable and real to say.

696
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 4: And that is why therapy is working for her, and

697
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 4: she is becoming more vulnerable because she's opening in and

698
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 4: tapping into that side of her that she's always put

699
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 4: up a big wall.

700
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 5: About and like, oh, I don't care, I don't care.

701
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 5: Everyone cares. Carlos.

702
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 4: Last year, when I was getting all the hate and

703
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 4: I lacked like I've murdered a child, it was the

704
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 4: worst you can ask anyone in my circle. I was

705
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 4: never wanted to leave the house, didn't want to go

706
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 4: out to dinners, didn't want to do anything except hybernanc

707
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:03,359
Speaker 4: bo horrible about how much people were misjudging me. And so,

708
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 4: no matter who you are, whether you're portrayed as a

709
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 4: villain on the show or whether you're a great person,

710
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 4: you don't have skin thick enough to just go, oh

711
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 4: it doesn't bother me, It does bother you. And and

712
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 4: you know, you do have to learn to get thicked

713
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 4: skin and turn you know, your look the other way.

714
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 4: But yeah, it's it's vulnerable and it shows you that

715
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 4: she's growing.

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00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 5: So there you go.

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00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, it's listen. This season is great and

718
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 2: I love it. I agree with you, alex.

719
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Speaker 3: Is that I think this is just a tip of

720
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Speaker 3: the iceberg based on what's going on, because in next

721
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 3: week's episode they take a live detext your test and listen.

722
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Speaker 3: This is my opinion. I don't care to see that

723
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 3: as I'm wh why why.

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00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 2: No no no no no no meaning this, meaning this, meaning this.

725
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 2: I love a Real Housewife show because it's funny and yeah,

726
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 2: you get the arguments and all that stuff. So I'm

727
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 2: not saying about finding out the truth.

728
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 3: I understand that what I'm saying is we have gone

729
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 3: so far with these lies that this show has now

730
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 3: become deadly as catch. It's now become an interrogation that's

731
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 3: involving a lie detector test versus a show where it's like,

732
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 3: let's call each other out, like you said earlier, let

733
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 3: let let me just be honest about like, look, I

734
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 3: said it, I fucked up. Give me some grapes instead

735
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 3: of it's now so bad and people people don't trust

736
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 3: each other so much on this show more that they

737
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 3: now have to do a lie detector test. I just

738
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 3: think how sad this has become.

739
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 2: That's what I meant by that.

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Speaker 4: Well, okay, so you know, we always talk real to

741
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 4: each other even if we don't agree, but.

742
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 5: I so don't agree with you on this. I don't agree.

743
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 4: I'm so excited to see it because here's the thing,

744
00:37:58,880 --> 00:37:59,959
Speaker 4: and why did doctor test?

745
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 5: By the way, aren't always true.

746
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 4: I think we've all learned that if you watch date line,

747
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 4: it's like, don't take one because they are not accurate.

748
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 5: This and that.

749
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 4: Well, I went on marriage boot camp with my mom.

750
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 4: It was the year before she got really sick.

751
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 5: You thank god I did.

752
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,280
Speaker 4: It, and they gave us light to text or test

753
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 4: and I passed mine with flying colors.

754
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 5: But I was like, the whole time they're hooking you up,

755
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 5: I'm like, I'm scared I'm going to get you know, I'm.

756
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 4: Not lying that they're going to think I'm lying that

757
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 4: the lightest is going to say I'm lying. So what

758
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 4: I love about this is I do know that they're

759
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,839
Speaker 4: authentic for some of it, because my mom's was real

760
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 4: and sure and I talked about it afterwards. I was like, well,

761
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 4: did you are you honest? Is that a true answer?

762
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 4: And I think my answer was do you resent your

763
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 4: mom for the divorce and for you know, becoming from

764
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 4: a broken home? And everyone would think I would say

765
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 4: yes to that. I don't resent her for that, So

766
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 4: I said no, and I thought, I'm still going to

767
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 4: it's going to show I do. But deep down in

768
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 4: my gut, in my heart, I never has resented her

769
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 4: for that. I understood why they got divorced once I

770
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 4: grew up. Right, when you're twelve, you don't. But then

771
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 4: so the point I love about this is that these

772
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 4: women are going to sit down now. Okay, several of

773
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 4: them are lying or I should pay a couple or

774
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 4: a few, and I hope that we get to see that.

775
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 5: They are, like I hope.

776
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 2: I don't know.

777
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 4: I think it's going to be fascinating and even kind

778
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 4: of funny in some ways.

779
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:12,879
Speaker 5: I just I just do.

780
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 4: I mean, I know it sounds dark that, oh we've now,

781
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 4: we've gone to light a Texas house. What's next We're

782
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 4: gonna you know, I don't know. I don't know what

783
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 4: will be next, but you know, to take their blood

784
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:27,879
Speaker 4: so we can watch. I don't know, no, I.

785
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,839
Speaker 3: Don't, I don't, I don't know, but listen, I an

786
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,320
Speaker 3: say your point of view too. In terms of like again,

787
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 3: this season has been a big who done it? There's

788
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 3: a game of clue, and now we're going to hopefully

789
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 3: know the results of who's lying in that. And just

790
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 3: so everybody understands, the logitexture test, which is not as

791
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 3: a polygraph, is a pseudo scientific device that measures records

792
00:39:53,719 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 3: several physiological indicators such as blood pressure, paul rest generation,

793
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 3: and scan conductivity. While a person is asked an answer

794
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 3: is a series of questions. So these are all the

795
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 3: factors that comes into which is what letsis said.

796
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 2: Look, there is this sort of like myth that look

797
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 2: is not the best in terms.

798
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 3: Of resulting in fact. But in a Lecti's case, she

799
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 3: did her to flying colors and police officers in the

800
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 3: corner of law, they still do allow this to be

801
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,879
Speaker 3: evidence in a case when it comes when a case

802
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 3: goes to trial.

803
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 2: Excuse me, So, look, we're going to find that out

804
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 2: in next week's episode.

805
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 3: But Alexis Ballina, this season is now getting to the

806
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,879
Speaker 3: point of a big who Done it? And what I'm

807
00:40:53,920 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 3: hoping by the end of it is what the liars

808
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 3: are revealed.

809
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 5: But you know, you made a very good point. And

810
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 5: it's like the viewers they might not even care.

811
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 4: It's like they don't always they don't they don't care

812
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 4: who's actually telling the truth or like in last season

813
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 4: for me, like they don't care who really has the

814
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 4: evidence and.

815
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 5: Have the truth.

816
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 4: They pity the person that they love the most, or

817
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 4: they're you know, they're so I don't know what's going

818
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:25,359
Speaker 4: to happen, but I'm I'm excited after last episode, last

819
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 4: night's episode, I'm I'm like, wow, this is I mean,

820
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 4: even though I had to like I literally had to

821
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 4: rewind it a couple of times cause I'm like, okay,

822
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 4: wait wait, I don't because it was the cobweb that

823
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 4: you need to make a.

824
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 5: Sign next time, Carlos, and we'll have all the lines of.

825
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 4: The viewers so they cannot really follow the story.

826
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 5: Anyway, Let's see what's coming up. I'm excited.

827
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Speaker 3: We'll see what's coming up. But a Bilina, thank you

828
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 3: so much for topic on Reality with the King and I.

829
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Speaker 2: Will see you next week.

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Speaker 6: My love, Hi, everybody, Bye bye. Reality with the King

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Speaker 6: is executive produced by me Carlos King produced by Lizzie

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Speaker 6: Nimitz and a partnership.

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00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 2: With the Lack Effect Network.

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