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Speaker 1: And That's what you Really missed with Jenna.

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Speaker 2: And Kevin An iHeartRadio podcast.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to and That's what You Really miss podcast, Kevin. Yes,

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Speaker 3: who do we have today?

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Speaker 2: Well, your friend, I have a friend of mine, the

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Speaker 2: one and only Lucas Graybill, who you know famously from

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Speaker 2: High School Musical one, two and three icons Iconic Iconic

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Speaker 2: High School Musical, The Musical, the TV show Crazy Series.

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Speaker 2: He's and many other things. By the way, He's ridiculously

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Speaker 2: talented and a good, good human. He's our people. Jenna,

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Speaker 2: you become friends?

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Speaker 1: Oh no, I already feel like we are becoming friends.

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Speaker 1: This is a great combo.

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Speaker 3: He's really so open and honest about the whole experience

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Speaker 3: and so wonderful to hear. I've been jonesing to hear

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Speaker 3: about their experience because it seems so similar to ours

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Speaker 3: in so many ways, and I just don't hear them.

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Speaker 1: Talk about it a lot. So I'm super excited to

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Speaker 1: have him.

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Speaker 2: This is Lucas Crapo.

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Speaker 4: Hello, Hello, Hello.

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Speaker 2: Have you met before? I feel like maybe.

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Speaker 4: Passing twice maybe, but not like actually hung out or

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Speaker 4: anything exactly exactly.

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Speaker 2: Lucas is a tyrant. He's not nice, he's untalented.

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Speaker 4: No, it was I was just thinking. I was like, Okay,

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Speaker 4: we're gonna probably talk a little bit about Glee. I

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Speaker 4: need to think about all of the people, and I'm holy,

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Speaker 4: I know so many people, so many people. Yeah, I

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Speaker 4: mean Max is one of my good friends. I met

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Speaker 4: Leah when she was doing before Glee, when she was

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Speaker 4: doing a Spring Awakening. I came on the year anniversary

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Speaker 4: of them doing it, and so no.

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Speaker 1: I think I was there about a few months after.

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Speaker 4: It to the after party and met everybody. And then

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Speaker 4: of course you know Matthew Morrison and you and Chris

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Speaker 2: Do you know everybody?

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Speaker 4: And I did a movie with Emma Roberts, so.

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Speaker 1: Through her, yeah, they.

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Speaker 4: Were reading, so yeah, a little bit of everybody.

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Speaker 1: So just an honorary member now, like a distant uncle.

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Speaker 2: I like Lucas and I have been on trips around

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Speaker 2: the world together. And it took me a long time

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Speaker 2: to ever bring up high school musical because I was like,

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Speaker 2: it's how I am with j C from and Sync. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: or like I just didn't want to bring it up.

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Speaker 2: But obviously Glee and high school Musical. I had like

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Speaker 2: so many questions just because like Glee wouldn't have existed

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Speaker 2: without high school musical yea. And our experience feels so specific. However,

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Speaker 2: it's not specific if we have like your whole crew, right,

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Speaker 2: Like you guys experienced everything basically we experienced, but you

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Speaker 2: did it first, and so like you're the only sort

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Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, that's imporing. Was the crazy part, right, Oh yeah,

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Speaker 4: because you do the show or the movie and it's like, okay, yeah,

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Speaker 4: we put all of our work into that and effort

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Speaker 4: the same time. But then you leave it and it's like, okay,

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Speaker 4: that's it. But when you're on stage looking out on

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Speaker 4: all of these people singing the words, every single one, right,

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Speaker 2: That's yeah, that's great. Yeah, it's something that people who

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Speaker 3: L didn't go out on tour, no, right, so take

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Speaker 2: We just watched High School Musical and I had the

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Speaker 4: Oh that's great to wait a really I saw it

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Speaker 2: All of these years.

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Speaker 4: And yeah, I had a totally different experience with it. Obviously.

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Speaker 4: The first time I was like, oh my god, this

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Speaker 1: And justly just it's a piece of cake.

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Speaker 4: It's just like, yes, rightly colored confetti, Layton.

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Speaker 2: Yeah cake, Yeah, exactly. That's why I had the time.

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Speaker 2: I was texting Jen, I'm like, I'm having the time

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Speaker 4: Kind of same. I auditioned for Glee so many times.

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Speaker 4: he every time he came in and he was like, Okay,

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Speaker 4: Oh stop it. The role I got the closest to

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Speaker 1: It was like this weird lovest thing.

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Speaker 4: So you know, I had moved out to la and

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Speaker 4: what's going on. Went in to read for Troy, got

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Speaker 4: my god, very very New York theater style. Like all

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Speaker 4: forty fifty of us to begin with. Wow, all going

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Speaker 4: for Troy, Gabriela, Ryan, and Sharpei. Oh my. We were

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Speaker 4: Well, it was crazy. I think I was the only

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Speaker 4: Kenny Ortega just he he has this way of curtaining in,

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Speaker 4: Disney Channel. It's a made for cable TV musical that's original.

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Speaker 4: Like not out of jealousy that I should have gotten more.

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Speaker 4: They chose the right people to write. Each song's great.

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Speaker 2: Period? I only got it. I watched it last week.

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Speaker 4: us in high school were like eye roll. And so

433
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,639
Speaker 4: I was like, Penny, I have to ask, can I

434
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 4: put this thing in about jazz squars? And I told

435
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:52,680
Speaker 4: him the whole story, and he's like, I love it.

436
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,440
Speaker 4: Let's add a line, let's make it a whole thing,

437
00:25:56,160 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 4: and let's have sharp Pey hate it. So yeah, and

438
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 4: the warm ups and all that stuff that's straight from

439
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,639
Speaker 4: like my theater warm ups.

440
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 2: You know, so good, growing up, so brilliant.

441
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 4: It was amazing that that he allowed us to just

442
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 4: put so much of our.

443
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,679
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so there's so much truth in it. Like

444
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:16,880
Speaker 1: we all knew that kid.

445
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 3: If you were at Thespian watching high school musical, which

446
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 3: most of us were, we were like, I am that person,

447
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 3: and like I take myself just as seriously as they

448
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 3: do and it's ridiculous, but it's so good and it

449
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:29,360
Speaker 3: felt so right.

450
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 4: I'm so glad that it did.

451
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 3: No, you did, so the journey after the success, right,

452
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:37,439
Speaker 3: there's the tour.

453
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 2: There's high school music tour after the first movie.

454
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, we did the US arena tour.

455
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 1: How many weeks was that?

456
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 4: It was thirty shows in sixty one days?

457
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,679
Speaker 2: That yeah is I had people.

458
00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 4: Two weeks before we had our first show. Again, I know, like.

459
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 2: That movie came out, became the success it became, and

460
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 2: then within like a couple of months, arenas were sold out.

461
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 4: Came out in January, and our first show was in November.

462
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 2: Oh nuts, yes, nuts.

463
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 4: And we sold out almost every show.

464
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 3: You're like, oh, we're doing this like really fun movie,

465
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,399
Speaker 3: you know, twenty four days and we see you guys again.

466
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,400
Speaker 3: And then you're like doing the top arena tours as

467
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 3: rock stars with people screaming, and you're like, oh, wow,

468
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 3: this is really popular. That's crazy. What was the tour like?

469
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 2: Yeah?

470
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 4: Oh man, I mean the first thing I told my

471
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:46,879
Speaker 4: mom when I was a kid that I wanted to

472
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 4: be was a karate teacher and a rock star. Yeah, yeah,

473
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 4: you know, I wanted to.

474
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 1: Have both receptions, right, you know.

475
00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 4: No, it was everything and more and it was the

476
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,199
Speaker 4: hardest two months of my life, but it was the

477
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:10,439
Speaker 4: best two months of my life. That's when I knew, like, yeah, okay.

478
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:14,119
Speaker 4: In March, we did the Today show Good Morning America

479
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:18,719
Speaker 4: back to back and I taught America how to do

480
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 4: We're All in This Together dance like that. That was

481
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 4: like a holy crap. But when, like I was saying earlier,

482
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 4: when you're when you're on stage and people are singing

483
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 4: these songs back to you, and I remember this guy,

484
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 4: I might tear up doing this because I always do.

485
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 4: I don't know why. This dad was in the front

486
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 4: row with his daughter on his shoulders and we're doing

487
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 4: We're All in This Together, and he's just balling. I

488
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 4: could just see that he was so happy to like

489
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 4: share that moments, sponsort or whatever. And I was just like, wow, yeah,

490
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 4: first hand impact, you know. So that and then there

491
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 4: was also like being on a tour.

492
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 1: Bus, you guys using across.

493
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 4: The country, and we took like private jets sometimes because

494
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 4: we had to go from wherever we were to the

495
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 4: Billboard Awards in Vegas and then back when we did

496
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 4: the show in Vegas, Kenny had a nice little surprise

497
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 4: for us that, oh, I don't know, Michael Jackson's gonna

498
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 4: come and see the show with his kids. So we

499
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 4: were all in the dancers dressing room. He's like, everybody

500
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 4: go in the dancers dressing room and around the corner

501
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 4: comes Michael Jackson and his kids and we're like what

502
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 4: and we shake his hand. We was like, hey, how's

503
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 4: it going, and we like They had built a curtain

504
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 4: around the sound booth in the middle of the arena

505
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 4: and then it goes dark before we start the show.

506
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 4: They kept it dark for like an extra forty five seconds,

507
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 4: which was really creepy to have all those people in

508
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 4: pick as they brought him in and I'm wearing all

509
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 4: the Fedora's Corbyn's popping out of the thing. Other than

510
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 4: us like having our heels screwed into the floor and

511
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 4: the lean. We were doing all of this Michael Jackson

512
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 4: stuff because Kenny did all of his shows, so you know,

513
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 4: I'm like doing this thing like okay, we had been

514
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 4: doing it several times and then I look out and

515
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 4: I'm like, I see him. That is so weird.

516
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 2: I don't know that's but he.

517
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 4: Did, you know, Kenny came backstage afterwards and was like,

518
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 4: Michael loved it, and you know what, guys, he said,

519
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 4: he's like so inspired he wants to get back on

520
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 4: on stage into a tour.

521
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 3: So wow, So it's your fault, it is, no.

522
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 4: No, it was truly a magical moment. I Like, immediately

523
00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 4: I was like, you know, a million of people have

524
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 4: gone to see Michael Jackson, but how many people have

525
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 4: has he gone to see in an arena concert wise?

526
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 4: So just an incredible thing. I mean, that was just

527
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 4: a couple of the moments. There was extremely low moments too,

528
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 4: because you know, you're you're out on stage, you're getting

529
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 4: all of this energy, you're putting all of this energy

530
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,479
Speaker 4: out and your body is just like buzzing, and then

531
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 4: you get done and you wipe down, you take your

532
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 4: mic off, and then you go outside and there's screaming

533
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 4: people on your side where crass it takes pictures and

534
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 4: blah blah blah. And then you get to the bus

535
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 4: and it's like, yeah, whoa, my body doesn't feel right

536
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 4: because it's not doing what it has been doing for

537
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 4: the last four hours. What's going on? What's wrong with me?

538
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 4: And Yeah, that up and down for that extremely short

539
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 4: and intense amount of time. Yeah, was hard on you.

540
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 2: A very singular experience.

541
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, but oh my.

542
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 4: God, did I love it so great?

543
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 3: How fast after did they say, like, oh, there's going

544
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 3: to be a second one?

545
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 4: I think pretty soon because the tour was really successful,

546
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 4: like this down yeah a movie. We had like four

547
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 4: days off and then we went into the studio to

548
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 4: record the.

549
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 3: Second sounds familiar, yeah, and then yeah, and then we

550
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 3: did the second movie.

551
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 4: And I want to say we did have a month

552
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 4: or two Well, no, we were in it was summertime.

553
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 4: So yeah, we went right back on tour after the movie. Wow.

554
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 4: But it was a stadium tour in South America and

555
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 4: Central America, so we had to go back into this

556
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 4: the rehearsal and like deal with adding fifty feet of

557
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 4: extra stage on either side and my practice running back

558
00:32:55,640 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 4: and forth right, Oh my goodness, man. I mean since

559
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 4: it was in South and Central America. I was the

560
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 4: EMC of the show, so I spoke mostly in Spanish.

561
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:11,239
Speaker 4: I had teleprompters, thank god, but yeah, I had to

562
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 4: like rush up on that and and translate most of

563
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 4: the things that I had done in the in the

564
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 4: US show to like condense it, make it more thing,

565
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 4: because you can't just go on talking forever to a

566
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 4: stadium of people. And when we did Brazil, I was

567
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 4: like taking a crash course in Portuguese two hours before

568
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 4: the show, praying that I remembered it. And that was

569
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 4: our That was our biggest show. It was almost one

570
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 4: hundred thousand people, so pressure ult and every country we

571
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 4: went to had a slightly different dialect or accent or whatever,

572
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 4: so I, you know, was just drilling the differences of that. Getos.

573
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 4: You know, don't mess that up because these people, if

574
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 4: you do it right, they will feel instantly so much

575
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 4: more seen in love.

576
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:09,800
Speaker 2: No pressure. Okay, my god, wow. Yeah that what's crazy

577
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 2: is like how quickly that, like a year and a

578
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 2: half before, if somebody had told you you'd be doing that,

579
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 2: you like you're on drugs.

580
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean after I shot the movie, I went

581
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,919
Speaker 4: with my friends to Europe and was just like going

582
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 4: around sleeping in hostels and people's beds and or people's

583
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 4: apartments and stuff, and you know, like, all right, this

584
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 4: is just whatever. I had no idea that, yeah I couldn't.

585
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 4: I wouldn't be able to do that.

586
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 1: No anyway, right right, But yeah.

587
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:55,280
Speaker 2: Wow. Going into the second movie, I imagine now because

588
00:34:55,320 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 2: you guys are a proven successful brand internationally, the stakes

589
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 2: are a little different, and I imagine, like going into

590
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 2: it is different, the scale of it in so many ways.

591
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:12,839
Speaker 4: It's you know, if you would have asked me day

592
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 4: of wrap after this second movie, like what was your

593
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 4: favorite one to do? I would have been like, the

594
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,839
Speaker 4: first one was really hard, but that definitely would be it.

595
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 4: But now looking back, I would say the second one

596
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 4: because I forget, you know, I'm able to forget all

597
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 4: of the stress and the pressure. But there was so much,

598
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 4: Like we didn't we shot for six weeks. We didn't

599
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 4: have a day off. We had one day off Easter.

600
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 4: All of the other days that were off days we

601
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:48,760
Speaker 4: were still doing photo shoots, interviews, all sorts of things.

602
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 4: So like it was, it was maddening. It was intense

603
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 4: after a tour too. Well, that actually helped, you know,

604
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 4: the momentum that we just got on a train and

605
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 4: they just kept saying, Okay, do this now, do this, now,

606
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 4: do this now, and yeah, And I do actually think

607
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 4: that that really helped. And we were all in the

608
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 4: spirit and you know, seeing the impact firsthand and getting

609
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 4: to like be excited about going back to these characters

610
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 4: and what we could do better and more of I

611
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 4: think two is the best movie, and I think that's

612
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 4: weird that, you know, not all.

613
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 2: Trilogies have that, Yeah, most do not.

614
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, but like the music is so great. It's so

615
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 4: colorful and fun, and you know, yeah, we were working

616
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 4: our butts off, but we were living all on a

617
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 4: cul de sac in a country club. It was like

618
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 4: gorgeous in the middle of nowhere. I mean, Saint George

619
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 4: is a decent sized city, but there's nothing around it

620
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 4: except beautiful red rock mountains. So yeah, there was there

621
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 4: was a lot of that also comfort knowing like we've

622
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 4: even if this doesn't do as well as the first one,

623
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 4: like we're not, I'm not gonna like, I don't have

624
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 4: to go back to the moldy apartment because I know that,

625
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 4: Like my life is a little different now. And and

626
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 4: I mean, where when do you get a chance to

627
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 4: wear a white tuxedo and play a grand piano in

628
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 4: a pool?

629
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 3: I don't know. Ask Mat Morrison. He had to wear

630
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 3: a white taxedo in a pool. One glad And so

631
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 3: you know, you guys got we.

632
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 2: Just after.

633
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 4: Okay, baseball. When do you get to do a baseball

634
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 4: musical number?

635
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 3: That's like.

636
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 2: The sport numbers were.

637
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 1: Really knows how to shoot dance well, really knows how

638
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 1: to film.

639
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 4: You know the reason why we did that.

640
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: J Kelly, Jean Kelly.

641
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 4: So Geene Kelly gets called from the student. Hey, we

642
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 4: we've got Frank Sinatra coming in to do guys and dolls.

643
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 4: But he doesn't know how to dance. Can you teach

644
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 4: him how to dance? He's like, what sport does he like?

645
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 4: He likes baseball, Well, let's go to a game. So

646
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 4: we went to a game and he's sitting there and

647
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 4: he's like, all right, Frank, look at all these moves

648
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 4: that these guys are doing and think of them as

649
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 4: dance moves. And then he was like, through baseball moves,

650
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 4: taught him how to dance and came that story and

651
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,399
Speaker 4: was like, okay, we're gonna do that in the second movie.

652
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 4: So crazy.

653
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, we had a discussion about how so many

654
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 2: not to bash modern movie musicals. So many people don't

655
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:47,919
Speaker 2: know how to shoot dance well. And obviously Kenny, thank

656
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 2: you a master. Yeah, and watching high school musical, I

657
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 2: was like this, this is how you shoot dance. Yeah,

658
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 2: I can't even imagine, you know, like when we had

659
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 2: directors come on and and I feel so bad for

660
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 2: them because it's not often that you get to shoot. Obviously,

661
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 2: doing TV, you come in, you have very little time

662
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 2: to prep and you have to just like shoot something

663
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 2: and turn around. Yeah, and people are not used to

664
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 2: shooting dance obviously. Luckily, I think we had a pretty

665
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,879
Speaker 2: good formula of how to do it, so people sort

666
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:20,760
Speaker 2: of had their handheld through that. But because musicals aren't

667
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 2: that normal, people just don't have that experience. You worked

668
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 2: literally with the person who has the most experience doing it,

669
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 2: Like I just want to not like shooting a musical

670
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 2: number with Kenny, obviously, the rehearsal was intense from what

671
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,800
Speaker 2: it sounds like, like, what was the shooting process.

672
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 4: Like, Well, the shooting process started in rehearsal because Kenny

673
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:50,879
Speaker 4: was always the camera. So, you know, we worked with

674
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 4: Bonnie's Story and Chuckie Klaypow, two of my favorite people

675
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 4: in this entire world. They you know, the three of

676
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 4: them choreographed stuff and then they would they would teach

677
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 4: us and work with it and we work, work, work,

678
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 4: and then Kenny would come in and say, oh, let's

679
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 4: change this a little bit, Let's change that a little bit.

680
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 4: And then while we would just run it over and

681
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 4: over again, he would just be like looking and even

682
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 4: if we're dancing and he walked right through us, we

683
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 4: would have to move right and if we hit him,

684
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 4: oh boy, you do not want to hit him or

685
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 4: bump into him or back into him. Even like you

686
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 4: have to be aware that he is there all the

687
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 4: time because he's like, you won't know where I'm going

688
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 4: to put the camera and if I've got a steady

689
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 4: caim weaving through you, guys, you need to be able

690
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 4: to be aware of it. So always always be aware

691
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 4: and not just move out of the way, but do

692
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,839
Speaker 4: it with soul and feeling. And it just made me

693
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 4: think of dirty dancing so much because it's just like

694
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 4: but yeah, it was we were being taught how to

695
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 4: be on set before we got on set, which was great, yeah,

696
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 4: and then yeah, doing it. It was like, you know,

697
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,959
Speaker 4: whenever we were shooting a musical number, it was like, Okay,

698
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,359
Speaker 4: get ready because we're going to be sweating all day

699
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 4: because we've got to get the wide and we have

700
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 4: to get it perfect before we do any coverage. And

701
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,439
Speaker 4: then you know, as the movies went on, we had

702
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,479
Speaker 4: you know, four or five more cameras right at legit.

703
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 4: But still it was it was not only about getting

704
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 4: the moves perfectly, because we were running through that stuff

705
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:31,320
Speaker 4: so much. By the time we got to the shooting.

706
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 4: He's like, before we did, we're all in this together.

707
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 4: He's like, all right, guys, you know these moves. We've

708
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,280
Speaker 4: been doing it for weeks because even while we were shooting,

709
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 4: we were still rehearsing that stuff. And he's like, this

710
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 4: is this is it. This is our last number that

711
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 4: we're going to shoot, and it's the last number in

712
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:52,319
Speaker 4: the film. This is the culmination of the film. This

713
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 4: is where our spirit source. So I don't want you

714
00:41:55,640 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 4: dancing from your brains or your bodies. You have to

715
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 4: dig and find some some inner joy and whatever. We're

716
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 4: all in this together means to you find that and

717
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 4: dance through that, and we're all for you. He's like,

718
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 4: he would always yell like this is some film forever. Yeah.

719
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 4: A little so he was like a little pressure like coach,

720
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:28,879
Speaker 4: you guys gotta give it your all, but also such

721
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 4: like a warm, loving parent being like you guys are

722
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 4: doing great and you've got the stuff down. Now, now

723
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 4: it's time to play, and it's time to give a

724
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 4: part of yourself. Yeah to children who need to be inspired,

725
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 4: who want to be uplifted and joyful. And yeah, that

726
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 4: was a little bit much for in my head, like

727
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 4: made for cable TV movie musical maybe Ken. Yeah, But

728
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 4: at the same time, I'm like, Okay, when do you

729
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 4: get that When do you get that opportunity when someone

730
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 4: putting a film camera in front of your face saying, hey,

731
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 4: do some really cool choreography and dance from your heart?

732
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 4: You know, like Okay, So we all got on board

733
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:24,840
Speaker 4: and it was Yeah, it was a dream.

734
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 3: It's illuminating to hear your journey feels like oddly similar

735
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 3: in a lot of ways in what we went through

736
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:38,320
Speaker 3: and feeling like something is really special, but then also

737
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 3: just not being fully equipped for any of it and

738
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,839
Speaker 3: kind of just on the train and it's NonStop and

739
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,439
Speaker 3: you're just on it, right, You're riding it for as

740
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 3: long as they keep.

741
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 1: Going, and then at some point it.

742
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 3: Stops, right and you're like, Okay, I guess it's time

743
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:54,879
Speaker 3: to get off this train now.

744
00:43:56,440 --> 00:44:00,080
Speaker 4: Yeah. I think a lot of us because it was

745
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 4: so intense for that three and a half year period

746
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 4: of time that as soon as it was done, I

747
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 4: mean even in between, we were all trying to squeeze

748
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 4: in other movies and projects and things. As I've said before,

749
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 4: I was trying to be a real actor, you know,

750
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 4: like Corbin and Vanessa and actually all put out albums, right,

751
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 4: and I've been writing music since I was twelve. Like

752
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 4: that was like a dream come true to get a

753
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:33,399
Speaker 4: record deal. But at the time, for some silly, whatever reason,

754
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 4: I don't regret it. I didn't do it because I

755
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:37,879
Speaker 4: was like, I want to focus on acting and moved

756
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:39,439
Speaker 4: out to LA to be an actor, and I want

757
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 4: to act.

758
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

759
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 4: You know, we all choose different busses to jump on

760
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 4: and trajectories and all of those things. But there was

761
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 4: a lot there was this deep feeling of like, Okay,

762
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 4: I've been I've been eat, sleep and breathing this thing

763
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:58,800
Speaker 4: for for so long. Even though it wasn't I gotta

764
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 4: I gotta go like big left hand turn, you know,

765
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 4: do something totally different so that people don't think that

766
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 4: this is all I can do. Ye looking back, I

767
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:15,320
Speaker 4: even heard Rain Wilson talk about this on his podcast

768
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 4: when you're in it. You don't realize the relationship that

769
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,839
Speaker 4: your fans have with your character and how comforting it

770
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 4: is to see they can watch it over and over

771
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 4: again and continue to feel that camaraderie in the connection.

772
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 4: You can have your feelings of angst and frustration with

773
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 4: this daily grind, but if you like trying to remember

774
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 4: that the character is the thing that you get to

775
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:47,280
Speaker 4: play and that you get to do, and anytime someone

776
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 4: asks you to do more of it, like that's a

777
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 4: gift and no regrets. But like, yeah, I mean, that's

778
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 4: why every time any high school musical thing, when Ashley

779
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 4: called me to do Sharpey's Fabulous Cure, yep, without question.

780
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 4: When High School Musical the musical series called like, yep,

781
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 4: let's do it, you know, because yeah, any chance I

782
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 4: can have to play this character, I will. Yeah, It's

783
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 4: made my life.

784
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,439
Speaker 2: There's still there's so much it's still out there. People

785
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 2: still love it. Like it hasn't gone anywhere in the

786
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 2: last five years.

787
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 4: It has only grown. Yeah, there's something the timing of

788
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 4: nostalgia plus people having children that I've been doing a

789
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 4: lot of conventions in the last year or so, and

790
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 4: I can't tell you how many moms come up, young

791
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:41,479
Speaker 4: moms and they're like, I grew up on high school

792
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:45,280
Speaker 4: musical and now we've got Carolyn and she just loves it.

793
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 4: Oh and it's like, what it's been that long that

794
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 4: can happen?

795
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, because there's still not a lot out there that

796
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 2: has filled that night, right.

797
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I mean it was so pure, like they

798
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:02,399
Speaker 4: don't even kiss in the first movie, So you don't

799
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 4: get a g rated thing unless you go back to

800
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 4: the forties, and then there's always chances that there's gonna

801
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:11,800
Speaker 4: be stuff that doesn't really yeah, you know. So yeah,

802
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 4: it is special to have that squeaky clean thing that

803
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 4: any parent can feel comfortable. But now there's this like

804
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 4: history and I can feel it from people like and

805
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:28,280
Speaker 4: I didn't under actually this is so My favorite movie

806
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 4: of all time is Waiting for Guffman, which is about

807
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 4: a small town, fictitious town in Missouri, which is I'm

808
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:38,720
Speaker 4: from Missouri, about a community theater putting on a play,

809
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 4: an original musical based on for the celebration of the one

810
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 4: hundred and fiftieth anniversary of the town. And it is

811
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 4: it's perfect, perfect, It is perfect in every single way.

812
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 4: I can quote every line from it, and I've seen

813
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 4: it a million times and it's my movie. And doing

814
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 4: these conventions, Parker POSI was at one of them, and

815
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 4: I have seen everybody in these green rooms and I

816
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 4: don't come up to anyone because you know, it's like

817
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,760
Speaker 4: the safe space and you don't want to bother anybody.

818
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 4: But I was like, oh, man, I cannot go without

819
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 4: saying something to her. I waited for a good moment.

820
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:20,439
Speaker 4: She was done eating, she was going up to grab

821
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 4: a coffee, and I was like, hey, Parker, I'm a

822
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 4: huge fan. And I just have to say, like, Waiting

823
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:28,320
Speaker 4: for Gotain was my favorite movie all time. I'm from Missouri,

824
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 4: like Blaine is, like I grew up doing like that

825
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 4: was that was my experience. Like we had a run

826
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 4: and Sheila, we had a quirky Saint Clair, you know,

827
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 4: like we had a Livy May You're just incredible blah

828
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 4: blah blah. And I'm like showering her and she's like, oh,

829
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 4: that's so sweet, and she was so nice and everything.

830
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 4: And thankfully her assistant came up right afterwards and she

831
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 4: was like, oh my god, I watch Halloween Town every

832
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 4: year all the time. I love that stuff. I was like,

833
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 4: not look like a good thing. I'm not looking like

834
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 4: a crazed fan who just like happened to squeeze into

835
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 4: the green room or something because she had no idea

836
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:11,919
Speaker 4: who I was. But anyway, so I get done and

837
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 4: I'm sitting at the lunch table and Priscilla Presley is

838
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 4: also a client of my agents, and so we've done

839
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 4: a lot of conventions together. I've gotten to know her

840
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker 4: and we're kind of chummy, and so I was like, oh, man, Priscilla,

841
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 4: like I just met Parker Posey. That was so cool.

842
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:31,360
Speaker 4: And she's like, oh, yeah, that's nice. And then my

843
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 4: agent pulls me aside and she's like, Lucas, you like

844
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 4: yesterday Parker went up to Priscilla and was like, she

845
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 4: did exactly what you did to her. And after it

846
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 4: was like, oh, that's crazy, like world twisting moment. But

847
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 4: then I had this insane, joyous, exciting feeling in my

848
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 4: soul like it was just like, oh, that was really cool,

849
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 4: and I'm so glad I did that, and I'm so

850
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 4: glad that she was sweet and kind and all those things.

851
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 4: It was just like a perfect experience and I was like,

852
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 4: oh my god, I get it. I actually know the

853
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 4: feelings some of the people have when they come up

854
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 4: to my table and they they're kind of flustered and

855
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:19,839
Speaker 4: they don't like I had experienced that, and it was

856
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 4: such a beautiful gift, and I was so glad that

857
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,800
Speaker 4: it was Parker Posy, you know, I mean.

858
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 2: You never know who it's going to be either.

859
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 4: I've met a lot of famous people, but.

860
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:36,280
Speaker 2: You met the most famous person probably evert.

861
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 1: Into your concert and saw you perform.

862
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 4: I was I was a little starstruck.

863
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think anybody would.

864
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Speaker 4: Hey, I'm so excited to see the show. Kenny was like,

865
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Speaker 4: what's your favorite song? Oh? All of them? Oh, but

866
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Speaker 4: that was like Paris and Blankets first show that they

867
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:07,799
Speaker 4: had ever seen. Crazy. Wow, that's that's wild. And now

868
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:11,360
Speaker 4: they're all, you know, crazy amazing musicians of themselves.

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Speaker 2: And you know, it's really lovely to hear you talk

870
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:20,720
Speaker 2: about this experience. And I'm sure Jenna feels the same way,

871
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 2: because I think we also now feel the same about

872
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 2: our experience with or just how grateful we are for

873
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 2: that opportunity and like grateful that people were ever interested

874
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 2: in it. People are still interested in it, and because

875
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:38,879
Speaker 2: the show obviously changed our lives. It meant so much

876
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 2: to us and it's really wild to think about just,

877
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 2: you know, the connection between high school musical basically birthing

878
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 2: when we were doing press. I don't even know if

879
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 2: I ever told you this, but when we were doing.

880
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:54,760
Speaker 4: You had to answer that question.

881
00:51:56,080 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 2: One they ever prepped us for. The question was literally

882
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:02,880
Speaker 2: the only note we ever got in the beginning was

883
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 2: when we go out to talk about it, try not

884
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 2: to mention high school musical. But if you do mention

885
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 2: high school musical, you can't explicitly say we're the anti

886
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:17,320
Speaker 2: high school musical, but we are sort of like where

887
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 2: the satire. Yeah, And so that was the whole first

888
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 2: season was about like, oh, we don't just break out

889
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:31,399
Speaker 2: into song like high school musical does, but also high school. Yeah.

890
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 2: But then like Jenna and I were watching high school,

891
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 2: like this is much more grounded than.

892
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:40,479
Speaker 4: We have a bully.

893
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:43,760
Speaker 2: It's also like you guys are in a real school.

894
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 2: Most of the time you're singing on a stage when

895
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:47,800
Speaker 2: you would normally be singing.

896
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 4: Vanessa always Gabriella, she always she was definitely the musical

897
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:55,880
Speaker 4: one of like not doing anything.

898
00:52:55,920 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 3: And then like song my dream song, yeah, yeah.

899
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:04,919
Speaker 2: But I just it's I love that we've been able

900
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 2: to become friends, and I love that you are like

901
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:10,839
Speaker 2: so integrated into the Glee family, and it's just it's

902
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 2: very reassuring hearing your experience, and well.

903
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 4: I really appreciate that. I remember, you know, when we

904
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:22,400
Speaker 4: were doing press, probably for the second or third one. Yeah,

905
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 4: A lot of the times they were like, so what

906
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 4: do you think about Glee? God, high school musical paved

907
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 4: the way for Glee?

908
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 1: I mean, you did?

909
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 2: You did?

910
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 4: Did I? Back then? I was still auditioning for Glee,

911
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 4: So I was very diplomatic.

912
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:39,800
Speaker 2: About I'm sure. I'm sure you know there's.

913
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 4: A lot of great musicals out there, and I'm sure

914
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 4: that you know it definitely struck a chord. But who knows,

915
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:51,839
Speaker 4: you know. I I love Glee. I think it's great. Yeah,

916
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:59,879
Speaker 4: we did what we can't say why changing?

917
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:01,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm.

918
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:06,759
Speaker 4: Really really authenticity is so much more of a thing now,

919
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 4: whereas like I can't, Oh my goodness, if I was

920
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 4: authentic back then, I was some mixture of myself and

921
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:28,320
Speaker 4: a Disney version of myself and Ryan all put together

922
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:31,359
Speaker 4: that I had to come up with. That was like

923
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 4: my media character, and and that.

924
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:41,479
Speaker 1: A real trick on your Yes, Psyche, what's real?

925
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:45,359
Speaker 4: And people grow up with the relationship they have with

926
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 4: your character, and then they see a relationship, you know,

927
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:52,319
Speaker 4: they gain a relationship with you doing interviews, and then

928
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 4: they meet you in person and they're like.

929
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 1: What, yeah, yeah, that's right.

930
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 3: We ask everybody who comes on the podcast. Generally, usually

931
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 3: it's about Lee. What is feeling like Lee leaves you with?

932
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:08,800
Speaker 3: But as we move into this new chapter of watching

933
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Speaker 3: other music shows, I'm curious what the feeling is that

934
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:13,399
Speaker 3: high school musical leaves you with?

935
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Speaker 4: M You said it earlier, It is just absolute gratitude.

936
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 4: It's an immense feeling of I mean, I look back

937
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 4: on so many parts of my life and they seem

938
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 4: like movies themselves that I've watched. It doesn't seem like

939
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 4: it's my actual life. And every now and then I

940
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:49,359
Speaker 4: sync up with the virtuality simulation that we're all living. Yeah,

941
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 4: that we may have created ourselves, who knows. Sometimes it

942
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 4: kind of lines up and I do get to like

943
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 4: really feel like that was me so much the time

944
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 4: it wasn't. It's like that's somebody else. But whether or

945
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 4: not it's me or it's not me, it's still is

946
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 4: that like overwhelming sense of Wow, I'm so lucky and

947
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:19,280
Speaker 4: so appreciative that that that happened and that I got

948
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:22,759
Speaker 4: to do that, and that I get to relive a

949
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,839
Speaker 4: lot of those things with meeting people today who who

950
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:29,240
Speaker 4: are still impacted by it and kids who are still

951
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 4: who are watching it for the first time. Now, you know, Yeah,

952
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 4: it's an amazing gift.

953
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:36,759
Speaker 3: Well, thank you so much for chatting with us, for

954
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:39,320
Speaker 3: thanks so much for having us wonderful hours.

955
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 2: We're gonna have to watch the second and third.

956
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, We're definitely doing the second.

957
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 2: Because I've never been more excited. Well, I remember just

958
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:51,239
Speaker 2: trying to be like a cool kid, like I guess

959
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 2: I'll watch the second one. I guess I'll go to

960
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 2: the movie theater watch the third one. Fully showed up

961
00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:57,839
Speaker 2: and it was like.

962
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 4: I would would have done the same exact thing, exactly

963
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:03,320
Speaker 4: like this thing everybody.

964
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, and yeah, I was.

965
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:10,440
Speaker 4: I wish that we could do this flopped because I

966
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 4: talked the whole time, and I know that that's like

967
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 4: you know what, No, I've heard stories from you know,

968
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 4: so many of you guys in the cast, But I

969
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 4: would love to deep dive and have this conversation on

970
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 4: the flip side.

971
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 2: So maybe after we watch two and three, we'll have

972
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 2: you back and then we can just talk about everything else.

973
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:33,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's nice.

974
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 2: Actually, you're sweetest, you're the best, so stupidly talented. O,

975
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 2: thank you, thank you, thank you so much for spending

976
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 2: so much time with us.

977
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 4: Hey, my pleasure, Bye bye.

978
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 2: What a sweet man.

979
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 1: What is an incredible experience, and what a sweet human.

980
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 2: He's so well spoken, he's always just like humility and

981
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 2: like he's always himself. I know it sounds so dumb,

982
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:03,920
Speaker 2: like he's so genuine, and I really appreciate it.

983
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 1: I love that, especially like just the success he's had and.

984
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm still really grateful and positive and wonderful.

985
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 1: So thank you Lucas for spending all the time with us.

986
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Speaker 1: And we hope you guys enjoyed our conversation.

987
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:22,280
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