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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we're always on Pacific time,

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Speaker 1: or at least that's helping me forget that. It's two

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Speaker 1: fifteen in the morning in London as we start the

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Speaker 1: show in the beautiful talkSPORT studios. So lucky today to

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Speaker 1: be joined by Ali Connelly fresh off is amazing debut

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Speaker 1: preview show performance, Phoebe Scheckter straight from the airwaves at

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Speaker 1: Sky Sports, and Will Gavin, who I believe lives here

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Speaker 1: at Talksports.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Literally, I've left the studio in seven years, so it's

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Speaker 3: a delight to be back with other people because Coffidy

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Speaker 3: gets lonely at this time on a Monday morning.

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Speaker 1: This place is impressive and I love this foursome that

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Speaker 1: we have. There is no one I would rather be

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Speaker 1: in a car with at one point thirty in the

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Speaker 1: morning on the way to the studio than Phoebe sector Like.

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Speaker 1: We love honking so much about football and ourselves that

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Speaker 1: we actually talked the whole way here after doing Sky

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Speaker 1: Sports all day.

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Speaker 4: It is lovely to be here with you.

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Speaker 1: We were also at Tottenham Hotspurs Stadium about twelve hours ago.

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Speaker 5: I was going to say three different locations today for

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Speaker 5: the win from the stadium. I mean, I don't know

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Speaker 5: if I'm okay to bring this up and with your fans.

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Speaker 5: You took a motorcycle to sky and then we took

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Speaker 5: a car. So planes, trains and automobiles is occurring today.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and we will get to that. We won't bore

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Speaker 1: the people at the top, but we'll talk about that later.

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Speaker 1: We're going to talk about the Bears impressive win today.

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Speaker 1: We were all at that game, but we're not going

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Speaker 1: to start with that game because we got to start

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Speaker 1: with Ali's favorite game.

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Speaker 4: Here Washington Baltimore. Let's hit it.

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Speaker 3: Hev me all over to the back field.

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Speaker 4: He'll get the carry up the middle.

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Speaker 6: Big hole potch down for the King.

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Speaker 7: Derek Henry strikes again and the Ravens extender lead.

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Speaker 4: That was Darry Sandusky of w b a L.

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Speaker 1: Dereck Henry on a day where it felt like he

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Speaker 1: wasn't even that big a part of the game plan,

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Speaker 1: wasn't that big a part of the win?

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Speaker 4: And then I looked up.

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Speaker 1: At the end of the game and he has twenty

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Speaker 1: four carries for one hundred and thirty two yards. It

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Speaker 1: is amazing what this offense is doing. Everyone is looking fantastic.

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Speaker 1: Let's start with you, Alie. I almost am surprised looking

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Speaker 1: at the final score that they only ended up with

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Speaker 1: thirty points in a day where it just felt like

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Speaker 1: they could have kept playing this game and the Commanders

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Speaker 1: were not gonna stop them or catch up.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, you get Zay Flowers in the first half where

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Speaker 8: it gets what nine catches in the first half and

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Speaker 8: then nothing the rest of the way. And Henry you

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Speaker 8: mentioned with running the ball, the huge kind of game

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Speaker 8: changing aspect he brings to the offenses. The after the

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Speaker 8: tackle stuff is just as never ever a bad down

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Speaker 8: to run Derek Henry. I think he's up to now

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Speaker 8: full games this season with thirty yards over expectation. I

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Speaker 8: don't know what an expectation could be for Derek frankly,

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Speaker 8: but next gen comes up with those stats. Last season,

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Speaker 8: Greg only one player at four games all season, Christy McCaffrey.

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Speaker 8: Henry as full already this season. And so I you've

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Speaker 8: mentioned this before, what is the option to stop these

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Speaker 3: What can you possibly do?

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Speaker 8: The idea of picking between Lamar has the ball or

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Speaker 8: Henry has the ball. Now the passing game is expending.

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Speaker 8: There's just no simple way to stop.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the linebackers for Washington, Frankie Luvu, Jordan Rodrieg's favorite

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Speaker 1: player who's been playing great all year, rendered almost irrelevant

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Speaker 4: And then they picked on Bobby Wagner. I thought of

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Speaker 3: Also.

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Speaker 1: I apologize Ali because I went around the room and

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Speaker 1: we did the little hey, how you going, and I

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Speaker 3: In the morning.

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Speaker 8: You saw me zoning out after fourteen hour a day.

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Speaker 8: I'll give this guy a break.

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Speaker 1: Well, it was kind were you like, we're watching this game,

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Speaker 1: this was our game on Sky Sports Phoebe, and like,

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Speaker 1: is your takeaway here more about how unstoppable Baltimore is

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Speaker 3: Where are you going?

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Speaker 5: I think it's about how unstoppable the Ravens are right now.

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Speaker 5: I mean, to Allie's point, they were finding ways to

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Speaker 5: And you know, the first half with a definite z

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Speaker 5: Andrew starts stepping up. You start just finding ways that

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Speaker 5: didn't feel like he did much, but they're finding ways

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Speaker 3: Four hundred and eighty four totally yards in this game,

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Speaker 3: and I think that's before with this bottomore team, when

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Speaker 3: There's always been something to point to. It feels like

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Speaker 3: It feels like they're going to be able to attack

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Speaker 3: particularly that fourth down, and you know, yes, we should

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Speaker 3: Jadan Daniels still continues to impress and probably his first

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there is there is a sense with this team

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Speaker 1: every week when they're facing a new kind of test.

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Speaker 4: Last year it was last week.

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Speaker 1: Rather it was the Browns defense, which obviously presents certain

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Speaker 1: that yeah, this has stay in power. This is a

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Speaker 1: But Daniel's doing next level things as a rookie quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Keeps happening, and this is a case where he didn't

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Speaker 1: The running game is kind of stagnated other than his

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Speaker 8: Yeah, and even in the passing game, this was one

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Speaker 8: You know it's big TV spot. He knows it's a

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Speaker 8: people remember Cliff Kingsby. Some of the situational play calling

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Speaker 8: Daniels has put in very good spots to succeed. It

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Speaker 8: It was one of those anticipation throw games, go and

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Speaker 8: make your own play games. It was not one where

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Speaker 8: played really well for most of the season, receivers springing

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Speaker 3: Ollie, are you saying we might have overreacted to the

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Speaker 3: first few weeks of the season as this Cliff Kingsbury renaissance.

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Speaker 8: Cliff Kingsbury great play designer, not always a great play caller.

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Speaker 8: He is a guy who I've mentioned before likes to

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Speaker 8: of goodies, and I would like him sometimes to pass

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Speaker 8: over the year all the different stuff. He brought a

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Speaker 5: Go from I think that what happened too, was Jayden

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Speaker 5: Daniels did a really nice job of responding to what

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Speaker 5: first half there was a lot of those those passes

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Speaker 5: And then second half they challenge him and he's throwing

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Speaker 1: Yet he ended up just twenty two yards on the

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Speaker 1: is kind of crazy that a rookie quarterback is leading

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Speaker 1: zach Ertz, Noah Brown, Yes, Terry McLaurin, who's one of

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Speaker 1: the best receivers in the league, and Zakias as his

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Speaker 1: this could have been a blowout. Baltimore ended up with

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Speaker 1: twenty eight first downs, four hundred and eighty four yards.

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Speaker 1: The early interception was the worst throw Lamar Jackson made

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Speaker 1: you mentioned it. Ali Jayden was just making special throws

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Speaker 1: awesome stuff. And it's a wide open division and they're

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Speaker 8: I can't really see anything. The only thing I would

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Speaker 8: team that blitz and sims your way through an entire season.

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Speaker 8: We haven't really had a full body of work of

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Speaker 8: these style of defenses playing over a full season, particularly

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Speaker 8: going into a postseason having great success. But we've now

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Speaker 8: got a Deafa Alway who has become one of the

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Speaker 8: top preminent pass rushs in the league, seemingly out of nowhere.

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Speaker 8: They've been flashed in the past. Now he's developed into

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Speaker 1: I almost keep throwing it to Ali because I'm just

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Speaker 1: like looking straight at him and and I'm intimidating a

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Speaker 1: little bit. Will by your your radio voice, you were

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Speaker 1: you were going to do this, and I'm hearing myself

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Speaker 1: in my ears and it's like listening to Tom Brady

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Speaker 3: And this is with my voice feeling pretty rough after

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Speaker 3: the four hour calls though, which Ollie did join us

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Speaker 3: on on Talk Sport. Look this whole when zach Or

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and they've done a really nice job of planning

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Speaker 1: Ultimately, Yeah, they look awesome. I feel I was a

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me.

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Speaker 1: And I gotta say, I think we're gonna kill this show.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna knock it out. Let's go to where they

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Speaker 10: Jared takes tosses to Montgomery, flips it back to Amed Rock.

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Speaker 3: He gives it to Golf. He's gonna throw down field.

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Speaker 4: That was Dan Miller on w X Y T yes.

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Speaker 1: Phoebe and after this game, Like, are what is your

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Speaker 5: The best part, my goodness. I love the defense. For me,

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Speaker 3: It's really interesting. We call it with Brian Brownsch at

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Speaker 11: As much okay is ever now, Yeah, I don't want

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Speaker 1: That kind of put a cloud over this whole thing,

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Speaker 3: It's fine. It was a phenomenal performance and they go

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Speaker 1: And immediately thinking teams out of the mix, like who

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Speaker 3: I immediately saw a speculated trade list from a Lion's

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Speaker 3: No connection issues resurfaced with Ceedee Lamb in this game

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Speaker 1: They were so desperate, you know, they had to go

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Speaker 5: No, And I get your caring frustration with you, but

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Speaker 4: Hat a little more critical.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean we spoke about this in the preview.

439
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Speaker 8: Everything they do on offense just looks like hard work,

440
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Speaker 8: every single part of it. And I love Dak probably

441
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Speaker 8: more than anyone, but missus Prescott. I really believe he is.

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Speaker 8: I've called him before. He's the closest thing we have

443
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Speaker 8: to Peyton Manning pre snap as Will were seeing, he

444
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Speaker 8: just loves to go out there to pick people apart,

445
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Speaker 8: and he is a true football genius. But there comes

446
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Speaker 8: a time when it's like we need some easy buttons.

447
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Speaker 8: There's nothing in that offense that is easy. Even when

448
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Speaker 8: they have they try and put different receivers out there,

449
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Speaker 8: the commitment the effort is so poor. They have to

450
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Speaker 8: pull explosive guys off the field to put not explosive

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Speaker 8: guys on they think we'll actually try. It's a huge,

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Speaker 8: huge problem. Everything about the offense, from designed to details,

453
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Speaker 8: to effort and intensity, the talent and technique, it's all

454
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Speaker 8: so lacking.

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Speaker 3: And at a time when the league is all about simplifying, right,

456
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Speaker 3: it's all about even just presenting quarterbacks with his read one,

457
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Speaker 3: two three, we're not even gonna make you read the defense.

458
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Speaker 3: We're going to make it so easy for you within

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Speaker 3: the structure, and Dak Prescott's being told, no, you have

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Speaker 3: to do literally everything.

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Speaker 8: The most embarrassing part of the game is just watching

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Speaker 8: the other side of the field and seeing all the creativity,

463
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Speaker 8: all the movement, all the effortlessness. To the point where

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Speaker 8: has there ever been a team play in their own

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Speaker 8: building get hammered the way that they did. And this

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Speaker 8: has happened now multiple times. It's four games in a

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Speaker 8: row they've been hammered. And then you have a team

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Speaker 8: the Lions, in the fourth quarter to say, our only

469
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Speaker 8: job is to get one of our tackles a touchdown.

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Speaker 8: That's all we care about.

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Speaker 1: And you were on a Jerry Jones beat. It was indeed,

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Speaker 1: please give me the report.

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Speaker 3: This is Jerry jones eighty second birthday today, and this

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Speaker 3: is coming off the back of the Cowboys allowing one

475
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Speaker 3: hundred and sixty seven points over their last four home games.

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Speaker 3: So it's not a happy time in Jerry world right now.

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Speaker 3: And he was asked afterwards about the potential for a

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Speaker 3: head coaching change. I'm not going to do the accident

479
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Speaker 3: because it would be horrible at any time of day,

480
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Speaker 3: but particularly at half two in the morning or whatever

481
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Speaker 3: it is. Jones said, I haven't even considered that. I'm

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Speaker 3: not considering that, so we're clear. And when he was

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Speaker 3: told he had made it in season change before, he

484
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Speaker 3: bristled and responded, do you think I'm an idiot? I'm

485
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Speaker 3: not so, Jerry Jones in fine Jerry Jones form afterwards,

486
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Speaker 3: going and addressing the media, and this is their worst

487
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Speaker 3: defeat in the Jerry Jones era at home. The last

488
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Speaker 3: time they lost, the last time they lost by this

489
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Speaker 3: many points was the year before Jerry Jones bought the team,

490
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Speaker 3: So right now he could be understood if he's having

491
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Speaker 3: some pretty tough conversations with Mike McCarthy and the rest

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Speaker 3: of that coaching staff.

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Speaker 1: The positive spin is, for as many issues as they've had,

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Speaker 1: they've sort of managed the season well enough that they're

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Speaker 1: three and three at this point. They got that win

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Speaker 1: in New York, which is a division whin, they got

497
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Speaker 1: that fourth down pickup against the Stealers, just that at

498
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Speaker 1: least there's hope if you're Jerry Jones, the eternal optimist.

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Speaker 1: At three and three, the bigger issue is if they

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Speaker 1: lose to the teams that are their biggest rivals, or

501
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Speaker 1: were at least in the NFC. You're going to San Francisco,

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Speaker 1: then you're in in Atlanta for Philly and washing Houston

503
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Speaker 1: and at Washington. It is a tough slate coming up.

504
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Speaker 1: So everyone's gonna be on Mike McCarthy watch. We get it,

505
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Speaker 1: but it's it's not gonna happen.

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Speaker 3: I don't think going into a bye week as well.

507
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Speaker 3: This is the bye week with San Francisco.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's what I mean.

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Speaker 1: Wins, those wins, Those wins saved him his job. I

510
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Speaker 1: believe for sure he's gonna give him a chance against

511
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Speaker 1: those rival teams and for Michael Parsons to come back.

512
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Speaker 4: But they're in a very difficult situation. Before we move

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Speaker 4: on from this.

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Speaker 1: Game, at least we should just give it a little

515
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Speaker 1: love to like the line, this is the game we're

516
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Speaker 1: gonna probably gonna send the most time, we watched it

517
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Speaker 1: very closer. I mean, Montgomery going twelve for eighty, Jumior

518
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Speaker 1: gives twelve for sixty three. They're just leaning on Deffinitly,

519
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Speaker 1: it was like Ben Johnson was just cycling through the team. Oh,

520
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Speaker 1: we haven't gotten a mon Ross Saint Brown a touchdown

521
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Speaker 1: late in this game. Let let's get it to him.

522
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Speaker 1: And then Saint Brown for some reason just sprints to

523
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Speaker 1: the bench and starts screaming into the air. I don't

524
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Speaker 1: know what he was so worked up about, but I

525
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Speaker 1: loved him. Oh, let's get the deep shot to Jamison

526
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Speaker 1: Williams after he has a drop early. Let's have Tim

527
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Speaker 1: Patrick make it insane. One Hen did catch early where

528
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Speaker 1: he comes back for the balls. Ciam Laporta, who has

529
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Speaker 1: been quiet our season, only has one catch, but it

530
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Speaker 1: goes for fifty two yards out of beautiful thrist and

531
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Speaker 1: it's like everything is just beautiful right now in Ben

532
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Speaker 1: Jonson then, like they just feel like they're in the

533
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Speaker 1: fourth year of their tenure, and it's like, if you

534
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Speaker 1: could write a book out of how to rebuild an organization,

535
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Speaker 1: this is it.

536
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Speaker 3: Almost everything is beautiful, and Ben, You're right. So the

537
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Speaker 3: only thing that he was so desperate to get alignment

538
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Speaker 3: a touchdown after what happened against the Cowboys last season,

539
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Speaker 3: and he tried it four separate times, and each time

540
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Speaker 3: they got called for a penalty or something went wrong

541
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Speaker 3: on the play, to the point at which he was

542
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Speaker 3: just stood on the sideline looking bewildered after another one

543
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Speaker 3: got called back. I felt bad Ben Jonson was clearly

544
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Speaker 3: looking to do something, and this is a league where

545
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Speaker 3: you're not meant to run at the score and you're

546
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Speaker 3: not meant to embarrass other teams. You felt like this

547
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Speaker 3: was a bit of an emotional win for the Lions

548
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Speaker 3: after last year, and I feel like Ben Jones was

549
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Speaker 3: just a little bit disappointed to not get the hands

550
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Speaker 3: all in the hands of a big man.

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Speaker 4: Love that they kept going for that.

552
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Speaker 1: If that's the topic on the Dumb Debate shows on

553
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Speaker 1: Monday morning, I'll be so annoyed. But I thought you

554
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Speaker 1: were going to point out, actually there was something bad

555
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Speaker 1: that happened for the team. It was the catastrophic injury

556
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Speaker 1: to the heartbeat of the team. That's like the number

557
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Speaker 1: two overall pick in the draft.

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Speaker 3: Watch.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I forgot to before we go.

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Speaker 1: I do want to just get your guys thoughts on

561
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Speaker 1: Tom Brady after six weeks, because this was the most

562
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Speaker 1: locked in I was to a Tom Brady performance.

563
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Speaker 8: I've been on Tom Brady beat Watch. Essentially most important

564
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Speaker 8: player in the history of the game modern wise steps

565
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Speaker 8: into a booth gets paid, Yes, how much money by

566
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Speaker 8: Uncle Rupert to come on cold games. The first week

567
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Speaker 8: was horrifying, boldline, embarrassing. He got really, really good, really quick.

568
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Speaker 8: No one noticed. Now the voice is a concern. Certainly

569
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Speaker 8: the voice is slightly grating, but he is that.

570
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Speaker 1: Can be overcome just charm and one liners.

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Speaker 8: It's fine, he's really settled into them. I'm allowing him

572
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Speaker 8: to nerd out over football. When he's nerding out of

573
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Speaker 8: a football he is as good as it gets with

574
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Speaker 8: anyone in communicating when they force him to do football cliche,

575
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Speaker 8: let's talk guy. He's brutal. You can see he's playing

576
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Speaker 8: a character he's watched on TV. So we get these

577
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Speaker 8: like four or five snapshots a game of Tom Brady

578
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Speaker 8: being Tom Brady, which is, let me just be a

579
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Speaker 8: football dog, and he's really good at it. The more

580
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Speaker 8: they can do that, the more they can maximize that.

581
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Speaker 8: The moys is best.

582
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Speaker 5: But surely there's an element that he is still growing

583
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Speaker 5: into this role. Just I get it. They've played him

584
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Speaker 5: a lot of money. Everyone thinks he should be wonderful,

585
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Speaker 5: but it doesn't happen like that. I mean, all of

586
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Speaker 5: us have been in that situation where you're building chemistry

587
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Speaker 5: with the person next to you you're trying to figure

588
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Speaker 5: out so you don't have these awkward pauses. I think

589
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Speaker 5: he's trying to figure out who is he as a broadcaster,

590
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Speaker 5: because that can't exactly be the same guy when he

591
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Speaker 5: was on the field, and that's all he's known for

592
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Speaker 5: so long. So I think he's going to keep getting better.

593
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Speaker 5: Like you said, he's very coachable, right, I mean that's

594
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Speaker 5: why he's been so successful. So he's going to be

595
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Speaker 5: self scouting. He's going to be doing all this work

596
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Speaker 5: on him his own to make himself.

597
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Speaker 1: I mean, we're doing it right now on our first

598
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 1: try as a fourth and it's not taking us.

599
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Speaker 8: A while in the world now, I'm buying all the stock.

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Speaker 8: I think he's gonna be a super stuff. Someone who

601
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Speaker 8: is that homicidely competitive is going to go home every night.

602
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:15,360
Speaker 8: He's going to fix the voice, he's going to watch

603
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Speaker 8: the tape. He's going to make himself be the best.

604
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Speaker 8: You got Romo hitting the links, you know, five days

605
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 8: a week, Brady is going to be in the booth

606
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Speaker 8: at home practicing. U. Okay, He's gonna be great. So

607
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Speaker 8: today was the day that convinced me that I anger, right.

608
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Speaker 8: I think there are certain things I'll like other guys

609
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Speaker 8: more for or less. He's still got a ways overall

610
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Speaker 8: to catch up with, like a Greg Olsen to me.

611
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Speaker 8: But today I was like, oh, he is going to

612
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Speaker 8: be really good at this.

613
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Speaker 1: And I think part of it was that he enjoyed

614
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Speaker 1: today watching championship level offense. He was like, finally someone

615
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Speaker 1: who meets my standards, Like I can accept these guys.

616
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Speaker 1: These guys are worthy of me watching them, I am

617
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Speaker 1: enjoying great football.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, after he'd have to sit and watch the Cowboys

619
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Speaker 3: from the first five weeks of the season, he was

620
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Speaker 3: excited to see a team who legitimately have a Super

621
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Speaker 3: Bowl possibility. Look, I think for me and I'm with

622
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Speaker 3: Ollie when he gets nerdy, I love it. But we

623
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Speaker 3: are a room of four nerds, so like, of course

624
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Speaker 3: we're going to love that. I'd like just a little

625
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 3: bit more kind of honesty slash reflection on his own career.

626
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,159
Speaker 3: There was a brilliant moment in week two when Jalen

627
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 3: Brooks lost his footing on what was a wide open

628
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 3: throw and ended up not catching the ball, and Kevin

629
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Speaker 3: Burkhart turned to him when was like, Tom, would you

630
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Speaker 3: go back to him immediately on the next play, and

631
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Speaker 3: these stock answer is yet, you go back to your guy.

632
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 3: You have to trust them, you have to prove that

633
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 3: you trust me. You have to build up their confidence.

634
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 3: And Bradi just went, no, that guy's not seeing the ball.

635
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 3: The rest of the game, just was honest about it.

636
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Speaker 3: I'm not throwing to him again for the rest of

637
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Speaker 3: the set.

638
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Speaker 8: Welcome to Bethel Dance in his career And the best

639
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Speaker 8: example of that was the Baker Mayfield one, because they

640
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Speaker 8: had a pre set ready to go. They did it

641
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Speaker 8: in the meeting and they had the graphic ready to life.

642
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Speaker 8: We're gonna throw to tom what you're gonna say, and

643
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 8: they figured it out, we'll go to camera, it's Kevin

644
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 8: and it's Tommy and Cameron will do that. But before

645
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 8: they could get to it, they mentioned it on air.

646
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Speaker 8: He let out how he really felt, which was passive,

647
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Speaker 8: aggressive and pissed off and annoyed. The Baker Mayfield said

648
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Speaker 8: that and then was anadyne when they actually threw it

649
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Speaker 8: to the part they'd pre planned. So if he can

650
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Speaker 8: just let slip out more how he really feels, I

651
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 8: don't know if you can do it. When you become

652
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Speaker 8: a team owner. Maybe he's just gonna be watching and

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Speaker 8: seeing Ben Jonson. I'll hire him for the Raiders. Maybe

654
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Speaker 8: that's what he was thinking in the third quarter. But

655
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Speaker 8: that real guy who's in there, who is part dork, partner,

656
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 8: part business guy, I think if he can just let

657
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Speaker 8: it come out more often, he's gonna be great.

658
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Speaker 1: You forgot like the seventy percent like pathological killer, which

659
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 1: I like when that comes out to. So, yes, we're

660
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 1: not gonna do a like a five minute Brady recap

661
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 1: every week, but maybe every six weeks we'll just check

662
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Speaker 1: in out him. All right, let's take at one quick break.

663
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Speaker 1: We're gonna come back. I'm gonna talk a little Saints Bucks. Yes,

664
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Speaker 1: the agenda, how did it too?

665
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 2: Or second down five promotion Godwin play action fake Bayfield,

666
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 2: looks downfield, throws up to caught ball on the left side.

667
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Speaker 3: Put across the fifty to the forty five is Godwin.

668
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 3: He breaks another.

669
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Speaker 2: Tackle, Godwaight down the sideline upside of the numbers to the ten, five,

670
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 2: three two one touchdowns.

671
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Speaker 3: T have a bay Chris.

672
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Speaker 2: Godwin fought through a tackle, King, got his balance and

673
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Speaker 2: scoots fifty five yards to the promised lamp.

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Speaker 1: If it's Sunday, you know it's Dean Deckerhoff on w

675
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Speaker 1: f US. Another victory for the Go Go Buccaneers offense.

676
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 1: They put a fifty burger on Dennis Allen in the Superdome.

677
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 1: Chris Godwin showing up week after week ends up with

678
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Speaker 1: eleven catches, one hundred and twenty five yards and two touchdowns.

679
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Speaker 1: We went into this game, Will thinking Spencer Rattler, and

680
00:30:55,840 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 1: I left this game thinking, Dennis Allen and this defense

681
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 1: that they've been building for so long is no match

682
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Speaker 1: for one of the best offenses in the league, the

683
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

684
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Speaker 3: Yea, I think your buddies at the Saints block party

685
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 3: aren't gonna be happy for what they saw from the

686
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Speaker 3: Saints defense today because Tampa.

687
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Speaker 4: Bakolu joining me on Thursday night.

688
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Speaker 1: Not to cut you off, sorry, Will, but Thursday night

689
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 1: could be a funeral for Dennis Allen with Sean Payton

690
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 1: coming into the building. So I am looking forward to

691
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 1: that post game with them on NFL Daily no matter

692
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 1: what happens. For their sake, I hope the Saints win,

693
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 1: but if they don't, it'll be probably a better show.

694
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Speaker 3: Look, this was a super fun game. Fifty one twenty

695
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 3: seven is slightly slightly harsh, I would say on Spencer

696
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 3: Ratler and then Orleans Saints twenty fourth coarter points for

697
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 3: Tampa Bay put a late kind of hurting on them,

698
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 3: but five hundred and ninety four yards of total offense,

699
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 3: and Baker Mayfield had the most Baker Mayfield of days

700
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 3: today opening drive five to five fifty eight yards, brilliant

701
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 3: touchdown strike. I was like, this is the Baker that

702
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 3: has come out in last year or so, had really

703
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 3: shown out. In the end, four touchdowns, three interceptions for

704
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 3: his three hundred and twenty five yards. I would say

705
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 3: only one of them was truly on him, was a

706
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 3: truly bad throw, but otherwise a really good all round

707
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 3: performance from Baker Mayfield. But it was the rushing. It

708
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 3: was the performance on the ground. It was John Tucker

709
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 3: coming out and having fourteen carries for one hundred and

710
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 3: thirty six yards and a touchdown. It was a total

711
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 3: rushink stats number of what they had three hundred and

712
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 3: seventeen in the end, two hundred and seventy seven yards

713
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Speaker 3: on the ground. Astonishing.

714
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Speaker 8: Yeah, and they've really struggled to run the ball for

715
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Speaker 8: much of the year. This is the first game last

716
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 8: week they started to get it going a little bit.

717
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 8: This one was where they were pairing the efficiency with

718
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 8: the explosiveness. I think they ended up with ten explosive

719
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:44,479
Speaker 8: runs over the course of the game. I think they

720
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 8: had ones of thirty one, thirty twenty nine big gashing

721
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 8: runs and Dennis Allen, if nothing else, will be furious

722
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 8: that that team was pushed off the ball like that.

723
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 8: Even the way they played defense, bunch of defensive backs,

724
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 8: tons of dime. It is built structurally that we at

725
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 8: least stop the run, then we kind of get funky

726
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 8: on the back and then try and force turnovers. They

727
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 8: got the turnovers, but they couldn't stop the run.

728
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 4: I know I'm paying attention more to the Saints than

729
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 4: most teams.

730
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Speaker 1: When while Brian Brant was having that game, I was

731
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 1: thinking the Saints drafted Isaiah Faski over Brian Brandt at

732
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 1: a moment where they really could have used that position.

733
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Speaker 5: Oh hugely.

734
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Speaker 4: I mean it was.

735
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Speaker 5: It was definitely a situation where they need to be

736
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 5: stacking their defense a little bit more. But even just

737
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 5: looking at the game overall, I mean, just going to

738
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 5: the Saints for a second, the fact that they scored

739
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 5: twenty seven points in the second quarter, and that was

740
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 5: all that they scored in the second quarter. That Tampa

741
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 5: Bay let that happen. But then they said, no, we've

742
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 5: had enough of this. This is not going to carry

743
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 5: on anymore.

744
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,959
Speaker 3: That was really what was noticeable from Spencer Ratler's day.

745
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 3: And it was a tough day in terms of chrys

746
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 3: Olav goes out with with a concussion on that fantastic

747
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 3: defensive play. The fumble was returned for the touchdown, but

748
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 3: in the first half, ten of thirteen one hundred and

749
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 3: thirty seven yards had the touchdown as well across the Saints'

750
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 3: first six strives. And then it felt like at the

751
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 3: half Todd Bowls went sorry, why are.

752
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 4: We getting his spy?

753
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 3: Like, why are we making a fifth round rookie do

754
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 3: this to us? Dialed up a ton of interesting pressures

755
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 3: forced him into going eleven of twenty three with two

756
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 3: interceptions in the second half. And ye, he was doing

757
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 3: it while they were taking a Rasija heat away down

758
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 3: the field while he had no Chris Lava. You know

759
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 3: that the guy who was seeming to see most of

760
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 3: his looks was the fellow fifth round rookie Bub means

761
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 3: what a name that is. By the way, five catches,

762
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 3: forty five yards and a touchdown for him. Overall, I

763
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 3: thought for a first game for a fifth round rookie Spence,

764
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 3: the rattler did enough for me to say, Okay, this

765
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:48,240
Speaker 3: guy could be something in the NFL.

766
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, certainly, maybe one of these long term career backup

767
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 8: swing start guys comes into a spot and you get

768
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 8: a three week run where you're all really excited about

769
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 8: its rattler ball season. You can move around and create.

770
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 8: This is why I will always go down with Todd.

771
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 8: He has never met an answer to a question that

772
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 8: has not just let me blitz more. And it was

773
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 8: very clear that you could see just seeping through the

774
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,399
Speaker 8: screen was Ball saying, I am gonna light this young

775
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 8: guy up. It's annoying me right now. And they sent

776
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 8: plenty of heat in the first half too, but he

777
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 8: just decided it's over. I'm sending everything. And it was

778
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 8: pretty clear too that Ratler was told stop taking off early,

779
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 8: see it, read it, look it, throw it. And he

780
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 8: was actually playing efficiently as you mentioned will early on

781
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 8: and had a few decent scrambles as well, and so

782
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 8: he's sitting in not wanting to move, and balls is

783
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 8: sending all kinds of heat, and you pair the two together,

784
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 8: suddenly you get a bunch of negative plays. But I

785
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,280
Speaker 8: thought it was, as you said, for a first outing

786
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 8: against a really tough defensive look, I thought he was impressive.

787
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, they need to support him more.

788
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 1: It was fourteen nothing and all he had done was

789
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 1: throw a completion into a lava where it was a

790
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 1: fumber return and that was just bad luck. But your

791
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 1: defense is not expecting to give up a touchdown on

792
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: the first drive. Your defense, which is what the whole

793
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:04,439
Speaker 1: Saland thing is really about, like, Hey, I can't hire

794
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,800
Speaker 1: an offensive coordinator. We're going to figure out how to

795
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 1: have an offense that's just good enough. We're going to

796
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,879
Speaker 1: play this defense that there's so much continuity in terms

797
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 1: of the scheme goes back practically a decade at this

798
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 1: point with Alan and the players that we're going to

799
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 1: keep ourselves in games. We're going to try to run

800
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,399
Speaker 1: the football with Alvin Kamara that certainly dried up over

801
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 1: the last handful of weeks, and we're going to be

802
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:30,399
Speaker 1: a top five defense. So if a division opponent comes

803
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 1: into your building, this is one of the lowest moments

804
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 1: of the Dennis Allen era.

805
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 4: It just blows my.

806
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: Mind that I did a podcast talking about how great

807
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 1: the Saints were and maybe some Super Bowl hype in

808
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 1: New Orleans and stuff, and that was just a few

809
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 1: weeks ago, and now they're on a long losing streak

810
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,839
Speaker 1: with Sean Payton coming into town and they just gave

811
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 1: up fifty points for the first time since the Giants

812
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 1: and Eli Mannon came in.

813
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 4: I remember this game well. It was a Sunday night

814
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 4: football in October.

815
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 1: Now, if I get this wrong, Everyone's like, actually, you

816
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 1: didn't remember well, But I'm pretty sure it was a

817
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: Sunday night football in October, and I was in Stamford, Connecticut,

818
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 1: just waiting for that game to end so I can

819
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 1: take a car back to the city at like one

820
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 1: in the morning. It reminded me of tonight with that

821
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,399
Speaker 1: Lions Cowboys game. Phoebe and we were just like, let's

822
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 1: hurry this thing up with the reviews and everything. A

823
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 1: big moment in the same season. It's a long way

824
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 1: to go, but I do just want to give the

825
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 1: Bucks credit because I just think this offense has been

826
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: dockingly consistent and consistently good and now they're getting the

827
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,439
Speaker 1: running game involved. And Mike Evan said before the game

828
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 1: that this game wasn't just about them, and I'm sure

829
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 1: it was not lost on anyone with the devastation of

830
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 1: the hurricane this week and they're spending the week in

831
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: New Orleans, a city who it almost sounds like familiar

832
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 1: to that it's only a football game, But it's also

833
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,320
Speaker 1: awesome they went out and won this game, and this

834
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 1: team has a chance to do something pretty special, which

835
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 1: is win a division again, like they could win at

836
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: four straight times, which is crazy.

837
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's amazing to see what they've done with

838
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,959
Speaker 5: Baker Mayfield over the years. I mean, he is someone

839
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 5: that's really come into his own from when he left

840
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 5: the Rams to coming out to Tampa Bay. I mean,

841
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 5: he's got an incredible crew around him. Like you said,

842
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 5: you get the run game going. That's such a big

843
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 5: part of what they've needed so far. And to run

844
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 5: all over a New Orleans Saints defense that with keeping

845
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 5: them in the games early on as well. So I

846
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 5: think that they have a lot to be proud of.

847
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 5: And I think it's impressive that, you know, this team

848
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 5: want to represent Florida, they want to represent Tampa Bay

849
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 5: and be a beacon of hope essentially, and this is

850
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 5: this is a pretty good way to feel. Fifty one

851
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 5: to twenty seven is a nice ending to this game.

852
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 3: I also want to give just a bit of a

853
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 3: shout out to the defensive side of the ball in general.

854
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 3: We talked about those blitz in the second half, but

855
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 3: Kelijah Canci comes back, have some time out wrecked the

856
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 3: middle of that offensive line throughout, and they've got so

857
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 3: much kind of great talent on the back end of

858
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 3: their deals, good young talent. But we mentioned the fumble player,

859
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 3: the crystal Abby Tike Smith who made that play also

860
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 3: had an absolute day from himself, and they just keep

861
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 3: seeming to find these gems in the draft. When they

862
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 3: went on that Super Bowl run, yes there was all

863
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 3: the talk about it was Tom Brady and Gronk coming

864
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 3: back and all that excitement on the other side of

865
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:18,879
Speaker 3: the ball, but it was the brilliant drafting they've done

866
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 3: on the back end of the defense that I thought

867
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,839
Speaker 3: really won them that Super Bowl, and they just seem

868
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 3: to keep doing it again. So the Bucks are kind

869
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 3: of a team that we're probably not talking about enough

870
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 3: as could have an impact come January.

871
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I worry about the sustainability of them. Defensively. I

872
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,439
Speaker 8: don't think the pass rush is a true pass rush.

873
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 8: I mean they're playing today, it's a rookie quarterback. They're

874
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 8: on the third center the scenes. Who is in charge

875
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 8: of figuring out who's going where, who's blocking who? What

876
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:41,320
Speaker 8: are we all doing? Do we even know all the

877
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 8: words and the calls? We've had the three days to

878
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,919
Speaker 8: work together, and top Balls is sending six to seven

879
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,359
Speaker 8: guys every other play in the second half, so we'll

880
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 8: ruin our fun.

881
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 1: Sean Tucker had hundred and ninety two yards from squimmage.

882
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 1: Sterling Shepherd had more Russian yards than anyone on the

883
00:39:58,600 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys.

884
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 4: Sterling's he's back.

885
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 8: I tried to warn you the Liam Cohen was a

886
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 8: major upgrade of a day of Canalis, and here he's

887
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,800
Speaker 8: rolling now. They play with such incredible tempo and that

888
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 8: feel of when to go to things, all the end

889
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 8: the rounds today, all the creativity they get guys wide open.

890
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 8: Baker's playing really well, decisive, taking off and making up

891
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 8: plays with his feet. He has become way more decisive

892
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 8: with Cohen than of almost lush. You.

893
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Speaker 4: I gotta say yeah.

894
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,800
Speaker 1: That gino ish contract they gave Baker was very similar,

895
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 1: where it's like you're not quite a super franchise quarterback,

896
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 1: but you're you're not a mid level guy. It's somewhere

897
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 1: in between. I think it's aging pretty well so far.

898
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,760
Speaker 1: There is separation in the NFC South. There are the havelves.

899
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 1: That's the Buccaneers. That's the Falcons, who will get to

900
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:43,399
Speaker 1: in a bit, and then there's the have nots. It's

901
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 1: the Saints and the Panthers. Let's go to Green Bay

902
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 1: where they were having a lot of fun.

903
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,359
Speaker 7: DoD's not a played the motion to the right side

904
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,320
Speaker 7: snammed the love under pressure.

905
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,800
Speaker 10: Love looks he's a down the right side, making it testable.

906
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 10: Tip toes into the eight sout play six sat like

907
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:03,720
Speaker 10: desperations through.

908
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:09,320
Speaker 9: Charge love to his good buddy, throw me up stub

909
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:14,800
Speaker 9: to the Packers twenty yard touchdown pass re established control

910
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 9: this game.

911
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 1: It's thirty to thirteen, Wayne Laravie of w r n W.

912
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 1: Good buddy he is. It almost felt like when they

913
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 1: dialed up some big playser like, we gotta get Dobbs

914
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 1: some touchdowns today. So he's happy with everyone and they

915
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 1: give him big hugs after the touchdown. Jordan Love finally

916
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 1: has a normal game, at least normal for him, which

917
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 1: is throwing just bonkersly talented throws to his receivers. Jayden Reed,

918
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 1: Christian Watson, Romeo Dobbs all get it done. Four touchdown

919
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:52,320
Speaker 1: throws for Jordan Love thirty four to thirteen is the final,

920
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 1: and maybe this Packer season is just kind of settling

921
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 1: into where it should be.

922
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 3: When they brought him back in Week four and throw

923
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,839
Speaker 3: him in against the Vikings and he still clearly didn't

924
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 3: quite look right, and you knew that he was going

925
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 3: up against that Brian Flores defense and all the exciting

926
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 3: stuff that they do, Like there was some little little

927
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 3: bit of kind of almost panic mode of okay, how

928
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 3: has Lafleur managed to scheme up some really amazing performance

929
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 3: out of elite Willis? And then Jordan Love comes back

930
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 3: and looks that bad. This is the Jordan Love that

931
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 3: we saw last year. He still will have those moments

932
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,399
Speaker 3: and Ollie or test for this, I'm sure where he'll

933
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 3: make some boneheaded throws and just plays that you just

934
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 3: do not expect a top tier quarterback to make. But

935
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 3: I thought he was sensational today the Romeo Dobs touchdown,

936
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 3: the one we just heard. Ben was one of the

937
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 3: players of the day for me, both in what Love

938
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 3: did but in the catch itself as well, And it

939
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,399
Speaker 3: was just fun to see them up and firing again

940
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 3: in an NFC which at the moment, outside of the

941
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 3: Vikings has looked like there's no one grabbing it by

942
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 3: the scruff of the neck. This is a Packers team

943
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 3: who actually finally might be figuring things out.

944
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, this was the Love stripping away any of the

945
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 8: ears of the last few weeks here. He has been

946
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 8: throwing it to everyone all over the place, no matter

947
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 8: what since he's returned, and this just kind of trimmed

948
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 8: down some of the fight. He still had some of

949
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 8: the most unbelievable throws of the day. The inbreak to

950
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 8: Doubs that he hits it's between three players at once

951
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,399
Speaker 8: is a lifetime type throw, one of the all time

952
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 8: throws you'll ever see that will be forgotten. What was incredible.

953
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,280
Speaker 8: He just the things that used to be really difficult

954
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 8: for him when he first started picking up pressure attack

955
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 8: in the middle of the field are now the things

956
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 8: that are easy for him, and the things that were

957
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:28,439
Speaker 8: easy before He's just now mastered. I'm such a huge

958
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 8: Jordan of fan. When you pair the efficiency, the instincts,

959
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 8: the anticipation with some of the offscript creativity, that's when

960
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 8: you start ratching up to like, Okay, how high is

961
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 8: he going up? The peck can go to here? When

962
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 8: he's at his best game, he's probably in the six

963
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,720
Speaker 8: to seven range already, and I think climbing.

964
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and the great plays are so great that

965
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 1: you forgive some of the downside. I think Packers fans

966
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:57,839
Speaker 1: had just been a little panicky and overreacting to the start.

967
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 1: They were weirdly like unhappy about it situation where you

968
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,879
Speaker 1: were three and two and Malik Willison started a couple

969
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 1: of those games.

970
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 4: It's a long season. This is a young team, one

971
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 4: of the youngest, maybe the youngest team in the league.

972
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 4: It's them in the Rams, I believe. And look, it's

973
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 4: an overmatched Cardinals defense at least talent wise. But both

974
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 4: sides of the ball played well for the Packers, and

975
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 4: they have to feel really good where they're at coming

976
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 4: out of week six.

977
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I mean look, and he was injured for

978
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 5: those first couple of weeks as well. I mean, what

979
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 5: Lafleur does, and the way that he schemes things up

980
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 5: and the play calling that he has, he puts Jordan

981
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 5: Love in a great position. I mean, he is a

982
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 5: coach that's able to really understand the piece of the

983
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 5: puzzle he has, and we saw that again Malik Willis

984
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 5: earlier on. There's not many coaches we're seeing that nowadays

985
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 5: that have answers to the test for his players. Jordan Love.

986
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 5: I love that he sat, you know, for a while

987
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 5: behind Aaron Rodgers. He's still learning. His actual rep experience

988
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 5: is not as high as some of the other quarterbacks

989
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 5: out there. So yeah, his line of success he's going up,

990
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 5: but it's not going to be without its pitfalls. And

991
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 5: you're kind of taking that as he's still developing as

992
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 5: a young guy.

993
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just want to take a time out here

994
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 1: where we've reached three am. Phoebe was actually a totten

995
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:16,439
Speaker 1: about like nine am or something like that, doing early hits.

996
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 1: I want to just do a little bit of a

997
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:21,320
Speaker 1: welfare check because as we were we were in our break,

998
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 1: Will said that you eat more than any person he's

999
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 1: ever met, and it just felt like you needed a

1000
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: little more energy. So we'll give you a break to

1001
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:30,959
Speaker 1: eat that candy bar if.

1002
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 9: You can too.

1003
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 3: And for our American listeners who haven't ever watched any

1004
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 3: of the stuff that we put out and talks for

1005
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 3: I am a man who weighs well north of so

1006
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 3: I'm saying that you eat too much. He's really saying something.

1007
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 5: Oh baby, Hench, No, Look, I just I need to

1008
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 5: constantly be fed here. So I appreciate y'all letting me

1009
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 5: have a couple of bites in my candy bar.

1010
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, and if you if you check out Phoebe's workout

1011
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:58,399
Speaker 1: routine on Instagram, you understand how it all makes sense.

1012
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:02,840
Speaker 1: Thirty four to thirteen. Does any reaction to this Cardinals

1013
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 1: team Ali who's up and down? Not really up and

1014
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 1: down on the defensive side of the ball. They seem

1015
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 1: like one of those teams that on defense they spin

1016
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 1: the wheel a little bit and sometimes it'll work.

1017
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 4: Usually it probably won't. But offensively a disappointing day, I would.

1018
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:17,800
Speaker 8: Say, yeah, And particularly in the first quarter, they just

1019
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 8: couldn't get anything going to open the game, and it

1020
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 8: just felt they were playing from behind from the get go.

1021
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 8: I think it speaks just more to the packages disappointing.

1022
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 8: It was for the Cardinals. This is one of those

1023
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 8: take care of business. If you're a real contender and

1024
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 8: you know you're overmatched and you can you're just more

1025
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 8: talented the other team. This is a take care of business,

1026
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 8: win by two, three touchdown type game. When you watch

1027
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 8: the Cardinals play, particularly on defense, they're just not as

1028
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 8: athletic as everyone else in the NFL, and they're not

1029
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 8: as athletic, for certain as that package team, and you

1030
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 8: can just feel the talent imbalanced all throughout the game.

1031
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, they need their offense and Kyler Murray to be special.

1032
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 1: They need their running game to be way more consistent

1033
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:55,320
Speaker 1: than it's been this year. A little bit of a

1034
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 1: disappointment to me, and they just weren't up for it

1035
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:02,479
Speaker 1: today like they were in that visional matchup last week.

1036
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,839
Speaker 4: We've waited long enough. Let's let's head to the game

1037
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 4: that we started with.

1038
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 1: It is time for the Sunday Drive presented by the

1039
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 1: all new hybrid Toyota Camera to Tottenham.

1040
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:16,800
Speaker 3: Mercedes Lewis and Colcomett on the right hand side the

1041
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 3: line on the left roma Tunday, they've got a fullback

1042
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 3: in in the form of an extralignment.

1043
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 12: They put the ball in there, Swift de Andre Swift

1044
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:27,359
Speaker 12: into the end zone touchdown, Chicago Bears, a one yard

1045
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 12: punge for the former Detroit Lion now Chicago Bear.

1046
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 4: And that is the cherry on top of a very

1047
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 4: good Sunday for.

1048
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:37,280
Speaker 3: Chicago in North London.

1049
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:39,959
Speaker 4: Oh, put that on the Call of the Year list.

1050
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 4: It is Will Gavin of tx Sport Radio.

1051
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 1: You have the power to do that, Will Varney behind

1052
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 1: the glass right, you could put it on unless Eric

1053
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 1: Roberts editing it behind the scenes. Yes, that was Deandres

1054
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 1: Swift finding pay dirt in a thirty five to sixteen

1055
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:03,439
Speaker 1: victory for the Bears. Came into this game wondering can

1056
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 1: the Bears continue to beat up offensively on under their

1057
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 1: overmatched defenses.

1058
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:12,800
Speaker 4: They absolutely did it.

1059
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams ends up with four touchdowns on the day

1060
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:20,479
Speaker 1: and he didn't even feel like he had to work

1061
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 1: that hard throughout.

1062
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:22,840
Speaker 4: The game to do it.

1063
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't want to suggest a negative against the

1064
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 3: Jags immediately, but we knew going into this game, and

1065
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 3: we talked about this a lot with Ollie going into

1066
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,320
Speaker 3: this weekend and on our call on talkSPORT today that

1067
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 3: they are a defensive play and a ridiculous amount of

1068
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 3: press man without having any talent in their back seven whatsoever.

1069
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 3: I actually thought the linebacker's played well today comparatively for

1070
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:46,439
Speaker 3: a Jags defensive performance. I said, comparatively, Ollie, I see

1071
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 3: you shaking your head over there, But I just on

1072
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 3: that back end. You know, Andre Cisco had the pick today,

1073
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 3: but on that culomet touchdown, had two separate opportunities to

1074
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 3: tackle him and failed on it. Just was picked on

1075
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:01,919
Speaker 3: all day long. Out side of that, and I thought

1076
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:06,320
Speaker 3: that schematically, they again made it quite easy for Caleb Williams.

1077
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 3: But this felt for me like the day where we

1078
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 3: really got to see the fun side of Caleb Williams.

1079
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 3: Four scrambles for fifty six yards. He made the right

1080
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 3: decisions in the right moments of when to tuck and

1081
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 3: run and when to pass the ball, and yeah, I

1082
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 3: just thought all round it was a not coming out performance,

1083
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:23,919
Speaker 3: because the last three weeks have gradually got better and better,

1084
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 3: but this was his best all round game for me,

1085
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 3: and like getting to watch it live, it was a real,

1086
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 3: real joy.

1087
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 8: This was the first superstar performance, I think it's fair

1088
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 8: to say, and it's a payoff really for all the

1089
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 8: pain they went through in the early weeks, you know,

1090
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 8: Shane Waldron was getting just crushed by everyone gang. He's

1091
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 8: burning through this young rookie. They threw the motherload at him.

1092
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,359
Speaker 8: With the expectation by the time we reached this week

1093
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 8: we gate, week ten, week twelve, we could start blending

1094
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 8: everything together, which is we have this really expansive, cool,

1095
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 8: cohesive offense that Caleb is running the show at the

1096
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 8: line of scrimmage all throughout the game. He's checking everything

1097
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 8: the whole time, and then when needed he can take

1098
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:02,280
Speaker 8: off and create. And it was for him to figure

1099
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 8: out on what plays can I do my Caleb Williams things,

1100
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:06,919
Speaker 8: and on what plays am I playing within the rhythm

1101
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 8: of the offense. In the last two weeks when they

1102
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 8: came alive, he was just purely strictly I play in

1103
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 8: this stroke, ture, I do my thing. They face a

1104
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 8: Jags defense that plays a bunch of press bank covers,

1105
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 8: like will said, does nothing to disguise, create, blitz, do

1106
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:21,360
Speaker 8: anything up from or on the back end. So it

1107
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 8: was time for him to say, if it's not that,

1108
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 8: I can take off and play. And it was just

1109
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 8: finally seeing the first glimpse I felt of the USC

1110
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 8: style Williams in the league.

1111
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 4: And look, you still see some plays.

1112
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 1: There was a scramble to his left in the red

1113
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:40,399
Speaker 1: zone where or no coming towards us in the deep

1114
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:44,240
Speaker 1: bread zone where he couldn't outrun the defender where he finds.

1115
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 1: Oh Man, it's not as easy to outrun people in

1116
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 1: the NFL. Even on one of his long runs towards

1117
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 1: the end, towards our end, where he has a chance

1118
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 1: to maybe make someone miss, and you can almost see

1119
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 1: him thinking like what juke am I gonna do? And

1120
00:50:57,960 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 1: he just sort of jukes back and forth and he

1121
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 1: gets tackled. But that's I mean after a twenty yard run.

1122
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 1: I've been really impressed. And I know Kurt Warner was

1123
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 1: on the NFL Network broadcast and he's a hard greater

1124
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 1: when it comes to real quarterback and stuff that he

1125
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 1: seems so comfortable in this Waldron offense. And your guy

1126
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:15,279
Speaker 1: does deserve a lot of credit calling up good plays,

1127
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 1: I think, making it for easy for him sometimes. But

1128
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 1: also Caleb is making the right throws, throwing back shoulder,

1129
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 1: looking off defenders, getting to his second read. All the

1130
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 1: things that really weren't emphasized when he was a prospect

1131
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,320
Speaker 1: are the things I think he's excelling at the earliest

1132
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 1: as a pro.

1133
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:34,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's been great to see because he has

1134
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 5: been stacking these bricks week in and week out, and

1135
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 5: he faced a lot of criticism and he's overcome all

1136
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 5: of that and he's just putting out great work right now.

1137
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:47,439
Speaker 5: I mean, look, it helps you get DeAndre Swift, who's

1138
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 5: doing a great job with that rushing. The offensive line

1139
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:54,839
Speaker 5: is doing much stronger. We'd seen previously really great glimpses

1140
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:57,799
Speaker 5: of what Caleb Williams can be when he had an

1141
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 5: O line that could protect him. So now his accuracy,

1142
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 5: his decision making, all of that is really coming together.

1143
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 5: And he's got this great character of receivers, you know,

1144
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 5: amongst Roma Dunze with your Coolkmets, Keenan Allen's. These guys

1145
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 5: are all really doing a great job. Of course Dj Moore,

1146
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 5: so it's been great to see.

1147
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 1: Like they had a break at the end of the

1148
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 1: third quarter and I believe the score at that point

1149
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:30,800
Speaker 1: was twenty one to ten, and you're thinking, this is

1150
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 1: where like, if the Jaguars have any chance to win,

1151
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 1: you're putting so much money in that defensive line and

1152
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 1: resources with Trayvon Walker as the one pick and Ark Armstead,

1153
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 1: you know, has a good game to start out in

1154
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 1: Josh Hayen's island, like go make a play and they're

1155
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:47,320
Speaker 1: on the goal line and he doesn't allow them to

1156
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 1: make the play. He makes the absolutely perfect throw to

1157
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 1: Keenan Allen, and being there, we were in that corner.

1158
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:58,400
Speaker 1: It's such a basic observation being there live, but you

1159
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 1: just realize how perfect a play like that has to be,

1160
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:06,760
Speaker 1: How there's so little margin for error for Caleb Williams

1161
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:08,840
Speaker 1: to be even a quarter of a second off and

1162
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 1: Keenan Allen to make that throw, and that throw has

1163
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 1: to have the exact right velocity but also the right

1164
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 1: touch in the smallest window windows, and he just hits it,

1165
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 1: and you realize like, oh, well, great offense can just

1166
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 1: neutralize whatever the Jaguars wanted to do on this day,

1167
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 1: and that was the case. The Bears now officially have

1168
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 1: an offense that will punish bad defenses, which is a

1169
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 1: pretty major step, because I don't know if we can

1170
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 1: say that about any Chicago Bears offense that I've been

1171
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,720
Speaker 1: alive for, maybe like a great month of Jay Cutler

1172
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:41,319
Speaker 1: that I enjoyed quite a bit.

1173
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:43,360
Speaker 3: I I And the thing for me as well is

1174
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 3: that it wasn't completely perfect and there is still room

1175
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 3: for growth. You mentioned some of the scrambling. There was

1176
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 3: the one where he got his long scramble of the day,

1177
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 3: the twenty three yard of where he got to midfield

1178
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:55,400
Speaker 3: and ended up sliding down on the sheld well. There

1179
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:56,760
Speaker 3: still wasn't a guy within.

1180
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 4: Yes, that's what I mean with the instincts, so he's

1181
00:53:58,640 --> 00:53:59,959
Speaker 4: like in his own head a little bit.

1182
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 3: It felt like he could have gone another ten to

1183
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 3: fifteen yards there. And the inception I think when you

1184
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 3: watch that play back, DJ Moore is wide open two

1185
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:10,919
Speaker 3: or three steps earlier in that throw, and that's something

1186
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 3: he's going to have to learn to trust his instincts,

1187
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 3: learn to trust the play a little bit on. But

1188
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:18,280
Speaker 3: I think it's the fact that he throws that interception

1189
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:20,799
Speaker 3: when the game is still tight at seven to three,

1190
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 3: and then gets the ball back and comes out and

1191
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 3: has probably his best drive of the game on the

1192
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 3: next drive to make it fourteen three and essentially wipe

1193
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 3: out any chance it felt like the Jags had of

1194
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 3: coming back. And it's that short term memory we always

1195
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 3: ask for quarterbacks to have on top of making the

1196
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 3: right decisions, on top of calling the plays and making

1197
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:40,760
Speaker 3: the great throws, and yeah, just all round, really really impressed.

1198
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 8: I think the pig is an important point because there

1199
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 8: was a bad pig. Bad throw got out of the

1200
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 8: timing of the offense, took like two three extra beats,

1201
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:49,439
Speaker 8: and he should have done as you mentioned, it's wide

1202
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 8: open by the time he liked to go. No on

1203
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 8: is a bad ball. He hangs it inside. He lost

1204
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 8: up for some strange reason. It was it never had

1205
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:56,439
Speaker 8: a chance because he just didn't get out in time.

1206
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 8: And what he's done so well in the past couple

1207
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:02,239
Speaker 8: of weeks is understand which throws our need timing and

1208
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 8: within the flow of the offense on which are the

1209
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:07,360
Speaker 8: ones he can go and create on. And this to

1210
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 8: me was the most all around package game because we

1211
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 8: got to see, you know, the creativity and the good size.

1212
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 8: We got to see him play within rhythm with instruction.

1213
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 8: What I think he showed today that he's not shown

1214
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 8: a great deal of in the past is more general

1215
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 8: management of the game, not in terms of just you know,

1216
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:27,400
Speaker 8: dealing with things at the line of scrips and getting

1217
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:29,839
Speaker 8: the ball out to the right pieces. Not going big

1218
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 8: game hunting. They didn't really spark to begin with, and

1219
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 8: his default has always been to slip into bad habits

1220
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 8: and just chase the deep ball every single time. And

1221
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:40,239
Speaker 8: this was the first game where he's just kind of

1222
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 8: committed and stayed to what the offense is asked of him,

1223
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:45,359
Speaker 8: and then if he needs to do something, then he'll

1224
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 8: try and take off and do it. So this was

1225
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 8: like a true pro quarterback performance with some like magic

1226
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 8: doest sprinkled on top, and that to me, will be

1227
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 8: the most exciting part of this development.

1228
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 1: Love it, Love that recap, and I love that they

1229
00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 1: took the buy after London. I always think it's a

1230
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:01,440
Speaker 1: mistake take the buye after.

1231
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 4: You get the win. You sit on this.

1232
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:06,359
Speaker 1: They're at a perfect point in the season. They're at

1233
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:08,240
Speaker 1: four and two. They beat the teams they were supposed

1234
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 1: to beat. The schedule will get harder down the stretch,

1235
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 1: but everything is on schedule. The defense we just take

1236
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 1: for granted is going to be solid and iber Flus's

1237
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 1: mix things up a little bit more. If it was allowed,

1238
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:23,800
Speaker 1: Kevin Bayard would be a good comeback Player of the

1239
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 1: Year candidate. But now I think you're not allowed to

1240
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:29,880
Speaker 1: come back from just being bad, so like Philip Rivers

1241
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 1: that year where he went from the eighteenth best quarterback

1242
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 1: in the league to the fifth, like that would not

1243
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:38,959
Speaker 1: have counted. But they were rock solid, even like first

1244
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 1: drive of the game, you know, they give up a

1245
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 1: long drive and then they make the play to break

1246
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:47,880
Speaker 1: up the touchdown in the end zone from Gabe Davis.

1247
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:50,400
Speaker 1: Maybe Gabe Davis could have brought that in if he

1248
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 1: didn't double clutch it, but still Elijah Hicks didn't give

1249
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 1: up on the play. And in their defense, it's just

1250
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:58,239
Speaker 1: a rock solid defense. And one thing I really appreciated

1251
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:01,800
Speaker 1: being there was of all the London games I've gone to,

1252
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 1: and you can tell me if you disagree, this was

1253
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 1: the biggest home field advantage. Like it was a true

1254
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 1: BEARSS crowd, which was a cool place to be. I

1255
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 1: think just being there you could see it in the

1256
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:15,360
Speaker 1: crowd of course, but it was more of the reactions

1257
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 1: that there were a couple of plays because we were

1258
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 1: doing sideline, Me and Olivia Harlan Decker, who was fantastic.

1259
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 4: It was a lot of fun.

1260
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 1: Occasionally we weren't turned towards the field for whatever reason.

1261
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 1: We had to look at the monitor, and you could

1262
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 1: hear the crowd go ah, and then the cheer and

1263
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:33,919
Speaker 1: the oh was oh, Caleb Williams just threw that ball

1264
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 1: a little too high, but then the applause was oh

1265
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 1: Roshawn Johnson came down with it with a one handed

1266
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 1: catch and just everything the reactions to like a near

1267
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 1: face mask in the official reviews. Everything was just like

1268
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 1: a home game, which felt very cool for someone that

1269
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 1: I've gone to these games quite a bit and I

1270
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 1: thought it was pretty unique.

1271
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 3: You heard it from moment one when in the pregame

1272
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 3: warmups the Jags came out to wall up and got

1273
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 3: booed out.

1274
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 4: I know, you never hear it at this game. I've

1275
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 4: never heard booze at this game.

1276
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 3: And we were in the locker room afterwards we were

1277
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:09,920
Speaker 3: asked about that and Jonathan Owens actually said like, did

1278
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 3: you hear them boo? I was like, yeah, but the

1279
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:13,440
Speaker 3: biggest boo of the game did come for a Packers

1280
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 3: Sucks sign, which he didn't buy on. Unfortunately. I thought

1281
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 3: we might have some fun.

1282
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 1: There was also a lot of Packers sucks chance yeah,

1283
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 1: which is you gotta be careful of that. Ali you've

1284
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 1: lived in Boston, although you lived there after two thousand

1285
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 1: and four. But yeah, Yankee sucks after two thousand and four.

1286
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 1: It feels way different than how often it was before

1287
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 1: two thousand and four. And it feels like an inferiority

1288
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 1: complex when it's your chanting Packers sucks in London.

1289
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 4: Just just enjoy your team. That's sort of saying where

1290
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:44,360
Speaker 4: the little brothers it is.

1291
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:47,919
Speaker 8: But I think they recognize we got Caleb Williams. Okay,

1292
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 8: it may not be for too long. You know, we'll

1293
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 8: get another year in of this and then maybe just

1294
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 8: maybe we could be having division races for the next okay,

1295
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 8: ten to fifteen years.

1296
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 4: Okay, I love that.

1297
00:58:56,920 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 3: I thought the Pan's defense is the other thing that

1298
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 3: really highlighted from each there. You mentioned it, but you

1299
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 3: know they lost to Kwonbriska before this game. Tyrek Stevenson

1300
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 3: out of this game. Even Terrell Smith didn't travel, so

1301
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 3: they're missing their third corner as well. Kyler Gordon, who's

1302
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 3: you know, the big nickel corner who blitzes a huge amount,

1303
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 3: goes out of this game as well, and just the

1304
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:22,440
Speaker 3: rotational guys that come in. Josh Blackwell had a big game.

1305
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 3: Jalen Jones had a big game. Elijah Hicks, who you mentioned,

1306
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:27,480
Speaker 3: had a big game, and just like when those rotational

1307
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 3: guys can come in and have a big performance, I

1308
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 3: think that defense right now looks like a top five

1309
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 3: defense in the NFL, which you pair that with the

1310
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:37,320
Speaker 3: quarterback that we're all very excited about. Maybe I'm overstating

1311
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 3: it on a performance against the bad Jags team, but

1312
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 3: I really impressed with that side of the ball as well.

1313
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:45,160
Speaker 3: And you mentioned taking the buye after London. I like

1314
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 3: taking the buy after London. What I'm probably less keen

1315
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 3: on is teams who stay in London after a horrible

1316
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 3: loss like that, because what a rough week this is

1317
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 3: going to be for the Jacksonville Draguars.

1318
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 4: I mean it'd be rough in Jacksonville too.

1319
00:59:56,840 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 1: You're right, Doug Peterson might be how b to be

1320
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:03,240
Speaker 1: here because I think there were questions about his job

1321
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 1: security before this game, whether he was gonna make this trip.

1322
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 1: They win last week, it's close, next week feels do

1323
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 1: or die. Just he sounded very tight in the postgame

1324
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:17,480
Speaker 1: press coming. He sounded tight at halftime speaking with our

1325
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 1: NFL network. It just it's a tough situation just on field.

1326
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Speaker 1: Did you have any takeaways of like watching Trevor Lawrence

1327
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 1: and what this product is right now, because there's just

1328
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 1: like a not a lot they can hang on to.

1329
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 4: And Trevor Lawrence played okay in this game.

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01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 1: Was kind of a typical Trevor Lawrence performance where you

1331
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:37,800
Speaker 1: look up and you're like, he didn't play that poorly,

1332
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:40,160
Speaker 1: but he just leaves you wanting in crucial situations.

1333
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's not always on him, right, we saw,

1334
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 5: you know, fumbles from Evan Ingram, Tank Bigsby. I mean,

1335
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:49,840
Speaker 5: I mean that just puts even more pressure on running game.

1336
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:52,680
Speaker 5: Really No, yeah, no running game as well. I mean

1337
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:54,160
Speaker 5: we were all thinking they had a little bit of

1338
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:58,000
Speaker 5: momentum from last week's When you're coming out to London

1339
01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:01,560
Speaker 5: where you're pretty much the home town here, you've got

1340
01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:04,240
Speaker 5: two weeks of being able to build off of what

1341
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:07,600
Speaker 5: you've done. I mean last year they were really successful

1342
01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 5: winning back to back games here. I just think that

1343
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:13,840
Speaker 5: kind of since the beginning of this season that there's

1344
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:17,840
Speaker 5: been issues in Jacksonville, and whether we're talking about when

1345
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:20,840
Speaker 5: Trevor Lawrence was playing the Bills and he's rolling out

1346
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:24,760
Speaker 5: from pressure that's not existing, or there's conversations from Doug

1347
01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 5: Peterson around, Hey, I'm calling the right please. There's there's

1348
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:29,920
Speaker 5: tension that's constantly building.

1349
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:32,920
Speaker 3: There was a moment on the sideline right towards the

1350
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:35,520
Speaker 3: end of the game where you had Trevor Lawrence, Christian Kirk,

1351
01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:40,520
Speaker 3: Evan Ingram all stood there silently, shoulders slump staring out

1352
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:42,919
Speaker 3: onto the field. So after they sent Mac Jones into

1353
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:46,280
Speaker 3: the game in place of Trevor Lawrence and I just won.

1354
01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:48,240
Speaker 4: For one, Trevor Lawrence is saying.

1355
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:53,120
Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence is supposedly not a big rara guy, not

1356
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:54,960
Speaker 3: a big kind of locker room leader in terms of

1357
01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 3: making speeches and geeing people up. He's more of a

1358
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:01,439
Speaker 3: do as I show, not as I say, kind of guy.

1359
01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:04,360
Speaker 3: And I look through that entire roster and I think, right,

1360
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:06,280
Speaker 3: who this week is going to grab this team by

1361
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:09,160
Speaker 3: the scruff of the neck and lift them up. Who

1362
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:12,320
Speaker 3: they're like? We went through it on air, and I

1363
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 3: think maybe Eric Harmstead, who's just come in there and

1364
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:17,480
Speaker 3: he was like four time waterpayon Man of the Year

1365
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:20,640
Speaker 3: nominee in San Francisco, Like he's a good locker room guy.

1366
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 3: But actually, there's no big veteran leaders on either side

1367
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 3: of the ball there, And so I think Doug Bederson's

1368
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:29,840
Speaker 3: got a real problem this week. Where you could get

1369
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 3: to Tuesday, you could get to Wednesday, and these units

1370
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:36,720
Speaker 3: have all gone off into their separate meetings or complained

1371
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:38,920
Speaker 3: about each other, complained about what the issues are, put

1372
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:41,000
Speaker 3: blame on somebody else, and I think you could get

1373
01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:42,200
Speaker 3: quite toxic quite quickly.

1374
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:44,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, And I think you're right. I mean, there

1375
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:47,600
Speaker 5: is really no veteran leadership. And when a team is

1376
01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 5: struggling like this, even if you're faking it so you

1377
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:51,680
Speaker 5: make it, you need some you need some sort of

1378
01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:55,600
Speaker 5: help from within the amount of head coaches that I've

1379
01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:58,600
Speaker 5: known that have that player, that veteran player on the

1380
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:01,040
Speaker 5: team that they kind of have those private words with

1381
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 5: to really kind of help share that message. I don't

1382
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:05,920
Speaker 5: know who's talking to Doug Peterson, and I don't know

1383
01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:08,520
Speaker 5: who Doug Peterson's talking to you right now, because you're right,

1384
01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:11,080
Speaker 5: they all feel like they're all working in their own silos.

1385
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:13,600
Speaker 4: They could also see some cornerbacks.

1386
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:16,760
Speaker 8: That would help, and then you maybe change your system.

1387
01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:18,760
Speaker 8: If you don't have cornerbacks, maybe a staff meeting that

1388
01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 8: could have been had. I'm with, will you know I

1389
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:23,920
Speaker 8: don't buy into the ra ra stuff that much, but

1390
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:26,880
Speaker 8: I was genuinely shocked watching them today. I've been doing

1391
01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 8: so many games in high school college NFL. When you

1392
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:33,040
Speaker 8: first start scouting, you get sent to really bad college

1393
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:35,920
Speaker 8: games and they say, just watch the sideline, check the vibes.

1394
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 8: Put it in the report. I don't think I've ever

1395
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:40,880
Speaker 8: seen anything that bad before. It was so flat, the

1396
01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:43,520
Speaker 8: vibes were so off. The number of clicks that were

1397
01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:46,480
Speaker 8: building throughout the game, which it would start with everyone

1398
01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:50,640
Speaker 8: together slowly becomes seven, slowly becomes four, slowly becomes sections

1399
01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:53,920
Speaker 8: of three. That just does not happen in pro football.

1400
01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 8: It was really odd, and we'll mention the lack of leaders.

1401
01:03:57,640 --> 01:04:00,439
Speaker 8: There really isn't when you go through them, someone who's

1402
01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:03,680
Speaker 8: talented and has some like juice to them. Trevor's not

1403
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:06,720
Speaker 8: like that. Peterson is not like that. Armsteads you mentioned.

1404
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:09,920
Speaker 8: Is more of like a Nobel piece candidate type, lovely

1405
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:12,520
Speaker 8: intelligent man than he is like somebody's gonna grab someone

1406
01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:14,680
Speaker 8: and say like, we've got to do well. Devin Lloyd

1407
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:16,720
Speaker 8: is the only guy who profiles like that, and he

1408
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:18,920
Speaker 8: has been shocking for most of the season, So you

1409
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:21,680
Speaker 8: can't walk into a staff meeting and say everyone's gonna

1410
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:23,560
Speaker 8: pick the game up. They'll throw the film on and say, yeah,

1411
01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:26,840
Speaker 8: you shouldn't be playing in the league. So I genuinely think,

1412
01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:29,560
Speaker 8: having watched them on the sideline today, it's a bigger mess,

1413
01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:31,280
Speaker 8: and actually thought it was just watching the tape.

1414
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:34,480
Speaker 5: But surely that comes from the head coach ultimately, because

1415
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 5: I honestly thought the past couple of years, you bring

1416
01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:41,360
Speaker 5: Doug Petersontain in, he's, you know, this great coach. He's

1417
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:43,959
Speaker 5: a quarterback himself, he's got all his experience is gonna share.

1418
01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:46,640
Speaker 5: But then I still go back to that press conference

1419
01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:48,360
Speaker 5: a couple of weeks ago where he's saying, well, I

1420
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:50,840
Speaker 5: made the right decision. Well that's that's ultimately you.

1421
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:53,040
Speaker 1: He said after this game we need to have like

1422
01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:55,760
Speaker 1: a culture change, and the culture change and everyone had

1423
01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:59,640
Speaker 1: the obvious reaction, which is like, you're it, bro exactly.

1424
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,760
Speaker 3: Well, andre cisco I mentioned before, was also interviewed in

1425
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:05,560
Speaker 3: the locker room afterwards after he'd said that, and he

1426
01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:08,760
Speaker 3: basically went in and went, yeah, everyone kind of took

1427
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:11,440
Speaker 3: the second half off, basically accused all of his defensive

1428
01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:13,280
Speaker 3: teammates of just just giving.

1429
01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:19,120
Speaker 1: Up well, it's true. Being there, just there was no resistance.

1430
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:23,000
Speaker 1: It was tough to watch. But I've seen it so

1431
01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:27,600
Speaker 1: many times. I've seen teams right before they fired their coach,

1432
01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:31,960
Speaker 1: and it's crazy how that happens so often. So no

1433
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:35,600
Speaker 1: one's going to enjoy that. The London curse is real.

1434
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:38,080
Speaker 1: We're gonna it might hit twice this year.

1435
01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:41,400
Speaker 8: We've we've never had a coach fired and they leave

1436
01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:43,800
Speaker 8: him in London as they continue to keep playing and

1437
01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:45,240
Speaker 8: go on and playing with you. Now, that would be

1438
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:47,160
Speaker 8: and I know they wouldn't do that. I know that

1439
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:49,479
Speaker 8: you wouldn't do that because you've ever done it before,

1440
01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:51,880
Speaker 8: you do it after. But that was a someone should

1441
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:54,480
Speaker 8: get fired game. It was a someone should get fired performance.

1442
01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:56,880
Speaker 8: They change. He's not gonna let Press Taylor go. He's

1443
01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:58,560
Speaker 8: been banging his head against the drum with this thing

1444
01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:01,040
Speaker 8: now for so long. They're not gonna change Ryan Nielsen.

1445
01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:03,560
Speaker 8: The only one you could change is Doug Peterson. I

1446
01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:06,760
Speaker 8: get Logistically, it's pretty much impossible because they're over for

1447
01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:08,120
Speaker 8: over a week.

1448
01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:08,400
Speaker 3: Book.

1449
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:11,840
Speaker 8: That was not a that was like an embarrassing time.

1450
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:14,000
Speaker 4: Tony Khan coaches on Sunday.

1451
01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:17,480
Speaker 1: They kind of make it a crossover where it's connected

1452
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:18,480
Speaker 1: to the wrestling.

1453
01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:20,640
Speaker 4: Like everyone wins.

1454
01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:23,920
Speaker 3: I think you do? You move the rest day from

1455
01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:27,680
Speaker 3: Monday to Tuesday, and Monday Shad Khan just hosts any

1456
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:30,520
Speaker 3: head coach who isn't currently in a job. Mike Rabel's

1457
01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:32,880
Speaker 3: flying over as you speak. Bill Belichick flying over as

1458
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:36,200
Speaker 3: we speak, all joining him on his multi billion pound

1459
01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:38,720
Speaker 3: yacht on the Thames, just to talk about that job.

1460
01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:41,000
Speaker 3: We're gonna see. It's gonna be all over the paparazzi tomorrow,

1461
01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:41,440
Speaker 3: don't you are.

1462
01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:45,640
Speaker 1: It is unfortunate. It does remind me Doug Peterson of

1463
01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:49,320
Speaker 1: the arc that he had with Philadelphia. Obviously it's lesser here,

1464
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:52,240
Speaker 1: but it's still similar. They won that playoff game. There

1465
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:55,400
Speaker 1: was a moment, but it just got a little stale.

1466
01:06:55,720 --> 01:06:59,440
Speaker 1: And who was a rough watch today? And that was

1467
01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:03,520
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1470
01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:16,640
Speaker 1: about the new England Patriots new franchise quarterback Drake May

1471
01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:18,840
Speaker 1: and I did today in Foxborough.

1472
01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:20,520
Speaker 3: Mixon in the backfield.

1473
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:20,880
Speaker 4: CJ.

1474
01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:21,600
Speaker 3: Other setter.

1475
01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:26,360
Speaker 4: Stroud gives the Joe over left guard boxs to.

1476
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:28,720
Speaker 2: The outside fifteen ten five to the pilot.

1477
01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:31,000
Speaker 4: He's got it. Touchdown.

1478
01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:35,040
Speaker 2: Joe Mixon checked back into the game and checks out

1479
01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:37,280
Speaker 2: of the end Zoon for six on a twenty yard

1480
01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:42,040
Speaker 2: TD run. Patriots fans headed for the exits have an

1481
01:07:42,080 --> 01:07:42,600
Speaker 2: hee day.

1482
01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:44,720
Speaker 3: Enjoy the shower.

1483
01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:51,320
Speaker 4: Oh, just sticking it. Mark VanderMeer k I lt he

1484
01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:51,920
Speaker 4: killed him.

1485
01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:56,000
Speaker 1: I mean that is that is a Scott Zolac level

1486
01:07:56,120 --> 01:07:59,400
Speaker 1: called by the Texans. They were enjoying themselves a forty

1487
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:04,600
Speaker 1: burger in Foxborough, forty one to twenty one. We'll get

1488
01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:06,840
Speaker 1: to the Drake May of it all, but I'll try

1489
01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:09,400
Speaker 1: to pretend that that wasn't the most important thing in

1490
01:08:09,520 --> 01:08:12,520
Speaker 1: this game and recognize there was a five and one

1491
01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:17,799
Speaker 1: team in this game that had everything rolling on offense.

1492
01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:21,439
Speaker 1: This Patriots defense has quietly been among the league's worst

1493
01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:24,960
Speaker 1: this year, and C. J. Stroud, with Joe Mixon and

1494
01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:27,880
Speaker 1: Damian Pierce back in the lineup, really didn't see a

1495
01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:29,160
Speaker 1: lot of resistance from them.

1496
01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:31,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, big, big rushing day for them on a day

1497
01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:32,600
Speaker 3: where we've had a few of those two hundred and

1498
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:35,000
Speaker 3: thirteen yards on the ground. Mixing one hundred and fifty

1499
01:08:35,120 --> 01:08:37,800
Speaker 3: nine of those seems to really kick start as a

1500
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:39,360
Speaker 3: little just a five and one team. They're five and

1501
01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:41,160
Speaker 3: one team where the only game they've lost was that

1502
01:08:41,320 --> 01:08:44,479
Speaker 3: road game against Minnesota where that defense just really really

1503
01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:48,040
Speaker 3: picked them apart. I think other than that, they've been

1504
01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:50,519
Speaker 3: incredibly impressive and they've beaten some really good teams on

1505
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 3: that run as well. And overall today, as much as

1506
01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:58,800
Speaker 3: Mixon was absolutely huge for them on a day when

1507
01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:01,320
Speaker 3: Nico Collins was out, you have Tank Dell's step up

1508
01:09:01,400 --> 01:09:03,599
Speaker 3: and have his best game of the season. You mentioned

1509
01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:06,799
Speaker 3: Damian Pierce coming back into the lineup, he getting his touchdown,

1510
01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:10,040
Speaker 3: lovely run to the outside reaching for the pylon. I

1511
01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:13,840
Speaker 3: just this Texans team, Okay, again, a little bit like

1512
01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:15,720
Speaker 3: saying I don't want to overreact to a Bears team

1513
01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:18,320
Speaker 3: facing a bad Jags team. This Patriots side have lost

1514
01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:22,040
Speaker 3: to some pretty bad teams this year already, but getting

1515
01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:24,160
Speaker 3: really excited about watching the sexist team play.

1516
01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:26,400
Speaker 4: I mean, there's no quarterback I like watching more than

1517
01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:27,400
Speaker 4: c Distrot right now.

1518
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:30,840
Speaker 8: No, No, he's he is, I think in his own

1519
01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:34,240
Speaker 8: category with how he's actually playing at the moment. They operationally.

1520
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:38,800
Speaker 8: Design wise, it's nothing that impressive. I think Bobby Slower

1521
01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:41,360
Speaker 8: got a lot of attention in credit because CJ. Stroud

1522
01:09:41,360 --> 01:09:43,400
Speaker 8: walked in the building was very special from day one,

1523
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:46,559
Speaker 8: and their run game has been a mess for most

1524
01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:47,880
Speaker 8: of the time he's been there. This one of the

1525
01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:50,519
Speaker 8: first time we got to see it actually succeed. And

1526
01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:56,280
Speaker 8: it was interesting because he often looks really uncomfortable even

1527
01:09:56,320 --> 01:09:59,080
Speaker 8: though he's playing very smooth and bailing them out of trouble.

1528
01:09:59,240 --> 01:10:00,920
Speaker 8: This was a great time to see you look how

1529
01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:03,360
Speaker 8: easy in effilus it looks for them when they're playing

1530
01:10:03,439 --> 01:10:06,200
Speaker 8: a poor team and then the operation becomes easy for him.

1531
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:10,200
Speaker 8: He can just pluster bad defenses when at least everything

1532
01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:13,240
Speaker 8: is okay or good off fine around him. And if

1533
01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:15,439
Speaker 8: they can find ways to develop and improve, if the

1534
01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:17,360
Speaker 8: line can get a bit better during the season, if

1535
01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:19,519
Speaker 8: the run game can hold up, then yeah, they're gonna

1536
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:20,920
Speaker 8: be in the hunt in the AFC.

1537
01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:23,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's success rate actually wasn't even that high on

1538
01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:26,000
Speaker 1: the rushing place It wasn't terrible, but it was essentially

1539
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:29,679
Speaker 1: they popped a couple big ones, but Stroud on Placey

1540
01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:31,280
Speaker 1: wasn't under pressure in this game.

1541
01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:33,040
Speaker 4: Was nearly perfect.

1542
01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:38,400
Speaker 1: He did have that one interception early, but they scored early,

1543
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:42,639
Speaker 1: they scored often. It was you know, it was pretty

1544
01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:46,280
Speaker 1: much fourteen nothing before Drake May got to do almost anything.

1545
01:10:46,520 --> 01:10:49,519
Speaker 1: And that's it's nice if you're a Texans fan to

1546
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:51,720
Speaker 1: see that they can cruise to a victory like that,

1547
01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:53,479
Speaker 1: because that wasn't the case a couple of weeks ago.

1548
01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:54,920
Speaker 4: They barely won against the Jaguars.

1549
01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:57,320
Speaker 1: They've kind of been skating by and maybe not been

1550
01:10:57,400 --> 01:10:59,519
Speaker 1: quite as good as their record indicates because Stroud's been

1551
01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:01,120
Speaker 1: playing so well. Well, this was a game where they

1552
01:11:01,160 --> 01:11:03,280
Speaker 1: look like, Okay, this is the real deal contender, even

1553
01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:04,799
Speaker 1: though they're playing without Nico Collins.

1554
01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:05,280
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1555
01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:08,080
Speaker 5: I mean the run game week one, that was the

1556
01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:09,880
Speaker 5: Texas we thought we were going to get. Then you

1557
01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:12,639
Speaker 5: get some injuries and you know, so it's really great

1558
01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:16,080
Speaker 5: for today to be able to see Joe Mixon taking

1559
01:11:16,160 --> 01:11:18,360
Speaker 5: off one hundred and two yards, Damian Pierce, I mean,

1560
01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:21,519
Speaker 5: really mixing that in, and then Stefan Diggs is just

1561
01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:24,719
Speaker 5: continuing to grow and develop and become that number one receiver.

1562
01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:27,080
Speaker 5: It almost feels like their game against the Bills the

1563
01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:29,760
Speaker 5: other week has somehow brought them together and they're even

1564
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:32,160
Speaker 5: better friends than they've ever been. But that's kind of

1565
01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:35,680
Speaker 5: Stephan Diggs's vibe. He wants to find he wants to

1566
01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:38,840
Speaker 5: be that number one receiver, go to guy for their quarterback.

1567
01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:42,760
Speaker 5: But Tank Dell continues to do some great stuff, you know,

1568
01:11:43,120 --> 01:11:44,880
Speaker 5: a really nice relationship with Dalton Schultz.

1569
01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:46,200
Speaker 13: So c J.

1570
01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:51,439
Speaker 5: Stroud, I think he's just an anomalye ultimately where his poise,

1571
01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:54,639
Speaker 5: his patience, and then his ability to throw with such

1572
01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:57,679
Speaker 5: an incredible arm strength is pretty spectacular to watch.

1573
01:11:58,240 --> 01:12:02,000
Speaker 1: Do you want to give me your Ali Connolly review

1574
01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:05,960
Speaker 1: of Drake May's first start? Just your first impressions before

1575
01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:08,559
Speaker 1: you really grind, you know, grind it all the tape.

1576
01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:12,479
Speaker 1: I know you're going to give the review on the

1577
01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:16,080
Speaker 1: sub stack, and I was happy to learn that some

1578
01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:18,800
Speaker 1: of our listeners signed up. So I go check out

1579
01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:23,040
Speaker 1: Ali Connolly's substack and you know, continue to make us

1580
01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:25,800
Speaker 1: look good for Ali Connolly for doing this work for us.

1581
01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:28,679
Speaker 8: I will say up front, this comes with a bias

1582
01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:31,880
Speaker 8: that I think Drake May has a chance to be really, really,

1583
01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:34,719
Speaker 8: really special. I had him very close to Caleb Williams

1584
01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:36,880
Speaker 8: coming out of the draft, and so I'm going through

1585
01:12:36,920 --> 01:12:39,160
Speaker 8: that prism slightly if I am looking for confirmation bias

1586
01:12:39,200 --> 01:12:41,560
Speaker 8: that there may be some secret sauce in there. That

1587
01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:45,639
Speaker 8: to me was everything you could expect from a rookie

1588
01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:48,880
Speaker 8: starting his first game with no offensive line. They get

1589
01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:51,559
Speaker 8: the left tackle injured on the first drive of the game,

1590
01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:53,360
Speaker 8: so they're rolling through guys no one's ever heard of

1591
01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:57,080
Speaker 8: up from their facing the probably, if not the best

1592
01:12:57,120 --> 01:12:58,840
Speaker 8: defensive front in the NFL least the one that gets

1593
01:12:58,840 --> 01:13:01,200
Speaker 8: the pressure at the highest rate. So for him to

1594
01:13:01,320 --> 01:13:04,599
Speaker 8: have only a couple of brain thoughts, if we can

1595
01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:07,479
Speaker 8: put it that way, to have the deep shot to

1596
01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:09,439
Speaker 8: Kashan Booty to make some plays of his legs, I

1597
01:13:09,479 --> 01:13:12,320
Speaker 8: thought he looked a little bit overrowed. The footwork stuff

1598
01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:13,800
Speaker 8: was a real problem. It's going to be that way

1599
01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:15,479
Speaker 8: for some time with him, and I just don't know

1600
01:13:15,560 --> 01:13:17,760
Speaker 8: how you can really critique him for it. When you're

1601
01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:20,519
Speaker 8: trying to time things up with an offense where there's

1602
01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:22,879
Speaker 8: no protection, there's no help. It's not a great offense

1603
01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:25,280
Speaker 8: in general, in terms of design, there's not great receiver help.

1604
01:13:25,479 --> 01:13:28,479
Speaker 8: So just seeing the traits translate the arms there, he

1605
01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:30,920
Speaker 8: can move, he can create. He's got good instincts when

1606
01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:33,400
Speaker 8: he bails from the pocket. The throw down the field

1607
01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:37,240
Speaker 8: to Booty was like a really high level timing, anticipation,

1608
01:13:37,479 --> 01:13:40,680
Speaker 8: placement throw. What more could you really hope for us?

1609
01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:41,479
Speaker 8: Like a flash of hope.

1610
01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:43,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, everyone that was so worked up about, oh, you

1611
01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:46,880
Speaker 1: can't have let am play football. The Texans have a

1612
01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:50,240
Speaker 1: high pressure rate. He has more touchdown passes on the

1613
01:13:50,280 --> 01:13:53,759
Speaker 1: season already than Jakobe Brissett. That that's nice on players

1614
01:13:53,840 --> 01:13:56,679
Speaker 1: that he wasn't pressured in this game, and there weren't

1615
01:13:56,720 --> 01:13:59,439
Speaker 1: that that many. He was pressured almost fifty percent of

1616
01:13:59,479 --> 01:14:01,960
Speaker 1: the time, which is huge number, but place he wasn't.

1617
01:14:02,160 --> 01:14:05,200
Speaker 1: He goes twelve for eighteen one sixty two three touchdowns

1618
01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:07,800
Speaker 1: and that interception. I believe that was the early one

1619
01:14:07,840 --> 01:14:10,360
Speaker 1: where he just might have been a little too hyped

1620
01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:13,960
Speaker 1: up in any sales a pass. But overall it was like, yeah,

1621
01:14:14,040 --> 01:14:17,479
Speaker 1: let's let's see our rookie quarterback play. And it's crazy

1622
01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:20,479
Speaker 1: that that might be four games this year that they've

1623
01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:22,599
Speaker 1: lost an offensive lineman in the first quarter.

1624
01:14:22,760 --> 01:14:24,000
Speaker 4: It just like keeps happy.

1625
01:14:24,080 --> 01:14:26,360
Speaker 1: Like even as bad as their offensive lineman is, it

1626
01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:28,880
Speaker 1: even gets worse that they always have a first quarter

1627
01:14:29,000 --> 01:14:32,679
Speaker 1: injury to one of the key spots. So overall, it's like, yes,

1628
01:14:32,920 --> 01:14:35,400
Speaker 1: at least give the Patriots fans some reason to watch

1629
01:14:35,479 --> 01:14:36,040
Speaker 1: this drek.

1630
01:14:36,439 --> 01:14:40,120
Speaker 3: It's it's six different offensive lines in six games basically,

1631
01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:42,240
Speaker 3: and their starting sentence there was a guy they signed

1632
01:14:42,280 --> 01:14:45,000
Speaker 3: off the Raiders practice squad three days before this game.

1633
01:14:45,120 --> 01:14:48,519
Speaker 3: Like that is a level of not front office in

1634
01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:50,960
Speaker 3: competence because you can't help the injuries.

1635
01:14:51,160 --> 01:14:53,519
Speaker 4: It was incompetence how they went into the season. Now

1636
01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:55,040
Speaker 4: it's just bad luck on top.

1637
01:14:54,920 --> 01:14:57,920
Speaker 3: Of the Yeah, exactly. And we talked a little bit

1638
01:14:57,960 --> 01:15:00,640
Speaker 3: about short term memory earlier. I think to have that

1639
01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:03,960
Speaker 3: bad overthrow which led to the Kalen Bullock interception on

1640
01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:05,840
Speaker 3: the second drive after going three and out on the

1641
01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:08,840
Speaker 3: first drive, people feeling a little bit wobbly puts together

1642
01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:12,280
Speaker 3: the nice drive, hits it, hits Kalen Boody for that

1643
01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:15,680
Speaker 3: deep Kishon Booty for that deep shot, and suddenly a

1644
01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:17,840
Speaker 3: little bit of juice, a little bit of something in

1645
01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:21,720
Speaker 3: that offense and that you already mentioned Greg more touchdowns

1646
01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:25,000
Speaker 3: on the season already than Jacoby Russett. First time. They've

1647
01:15:25,040 --> 01:15:28,640
Speaker 3: passed the twenty point mark this season six games in

1648
01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:31,680
Speaker 3: as well, Like, Okay, it wasn't a great performance, but

1649
01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:34,519
Speaker 3: at least on the offense, there was something to get

1650
01:15:34,600 --> 01:15:37,200
Speaker 3: behind and enjoy, and Drake May was the driving force

1651
01:15:37,240 --> 01:15:40,360
Speaker 3: for that. Even with past protection issues and interceptions and

1652
01:15:40,439 --> 01:15:41,320
Speaker 3: everything that came with it.

1653
01:15:41,560 --> 01:15:43,839
Speaker 8: The bounce back stuff will never be a problem with Drignae.

1654
01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:47,960
Speaker 8: He is like Eli levels of unflappable. Yes, just ket

1655
01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:50,559
Speaker 8: balls all over the place. Whenever he thinks there's any

1656
01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:53,479
Speaker 8: kind of sign of trouble, that will never ever be concerned.

1657
01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:54,840
Speaker 8: The concern is is he just going to get in

1658
01:15:54,880 --> 01:15:57,120
Speaker 8: his own head and start ripping it way more than

1659
01:15:57,120 --> 01:15:59,479
Speaker 8: he should? I thought he played with more control than

1660
01:15:59,479 --> 01:16:01,600
Speaker 8: you could expect. You got pressured fift percent of the

1661
01:16:01,640 --> 01:16:03,760
Speaker 8: time against a really good defense to do an all

1662
01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:05,559
Speaker 8: kind of quirky things on the back end to change

1663
01:16:05,560 --> 01:16:07,719
Speaker 8: the picture and you don't know what's happening. That overthrow

1664
01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:09,479
Speaker 8: we had was Puel like, I don't know what's happening.

1665
01:16:09,560 --> 01:16:11,240
Speaker 8: I'm just gonna throw it, and the bowl sales on

1666
01:16:11,320 --> 01:16:15,200
Speaker 8: him because his feet got lost. To not have ten, eleven,

1667
01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:18,920
Speaker 8: twelve of those in those circumstances is to me pretty

1668
01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:20,599
Speaker 8: impressed in a really good place to build from.

1669
01:16:20,720 --> 01:16:23,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, Ramandre Stevenson was out for this game of Antonio

1670
01:16:23,720 --> 01:16:27,759
Speaker 1: Gibson gets the start, has nineteen yards on thirteen carries.

1671
01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:31,680
Speaker 1: A man named Terrell Jennings was significantly involved in the

1672
01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:33,880
Speaker 1: running game. And you know who else was involved in

1673
01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:36,000
Speaker 1: this game. A man that Tom Curran, who has the

1674
01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:39,519
Speaker 1: best eye out there of any Patriots beat writer said

1675
01:16:39,880 --> 01:16:42,599
Speaker 1: was maybe the best receiver in all of training camp

1676
01:16:42,680 --> 01:16:45,439
Speaker 1: other than Pop Douglas, and that was Casean Bhute. And

1677
01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:47,560
Speaker 1: I love that you got him on the field with

1678
01:16:47,720 --> 01:16:49,680
Speaker 1: Drake Maye. I just I know we're not having a

1679
01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:51,479
Speaker 1: lot of extra calls today, but I do want to

1680
01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:54,719
Speaker 1: hear the first touchdown pass of Drake May's career.

1681
01:16:54,840 --> 01:16:56,640
Speaker 7: And now the Patriots havelet trom mc forty shots this

1682
01:16:56,720 --> 01:16:58,360
Speaker 7: Statt Bacul, he's in the pocket, he.

1683
01:16:58,360 --> 01:16:59,920
Speaker 10: Runs back if there's a long ball down the right.

1684
01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:07,160
Speaker 9: Sorry, this touchdown pass shun body on a perfect time from.

1685
01:17:07,040 --> 01:17:11,479
Speaker 4: Trick May He he beat Stingley down the right side.

1686
01:17:12,080 --> 01:17:16,280
Speaker 14: May dang, what a time for the first touchdown of

1687
01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:17,639
Speaker 14: his career as a Patriot.

1688
01:17:18,040 --> 01:17:20,559
Speaker 3: Just desperate for the injection of Zola at this time.

1689
01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:24,559
Speaker 1: I wanted to hear how zolaks fine. I would say

1690
01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:27,439
Speaker 1: that was like a five out of ten. Zoe Lac.

1691
01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:29,439
Speaker 1: The fact they were down fourteen nothing at the time

1692
01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:33,080
Speaker 1: probably just like dimmed the level of sounding like he's

1693
01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:36,400
Speaker 1: on crack. But good to have Scott Zolac on the show.

1694
01:17:36,720 --> 01:17:38,559
Speaker 1: Let's take a break. We are going to be back

1695
01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:40,960
Speaker 1: and talk about a high scoring game in the NFC.

1696
01:17:41,240 --> 01:17:56,719
Speaker 7: Sound Cousins under center, McCloud emotion. Here's out here, straight

1697
01:17:56,800 --> 01:18:04,320
Speaker 7: ahead touchdown atlantaar just banging away at the north end zone.

1698
01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:07,639
Speaker 7: It's his first rushing store of the year.

1699
01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:12,240
Speaker 1: That was Tyler Algiers first rushing scorer of the year,

1700
01:18:12,360 --> 01:18:17,120
Speaker 1: as West Durham of w z d C says thirty

1701
01:18:17,160 --> 01:18:20,559
Speaker 1: eight to twenty. The Panthers hung around in this game

1702
01:18:21,040 --> 01:18:24,280
Speaker 1: for a while, the Falcons pulling away late as they

1703
01:18:24,439 --> 01:18:29,200
Speaker 1: do in their shootouts in this wild NFC South season,

1704
01:18:29,320 --> 01:18:33,960
Speaker 1: the Falcons are on a roll, and I thought phoebe

1705
01:18:34,120 --> 01:18:36,320
Speaker 1: in this in this late window, we might get a

1706
01:18:36,360 --> 01:18:37,639
Speaker 1: little bit of a shootout.

1707
01:18:37,680 --> 01:18:39,120
Speaker 4: We kind of needed a close game.

1708
01:18:39,680 --> 01:18:42,639
Speaker 1: We didn't get it, but we're getting a good divisional

1709
01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:44,520
Speaker 1: race now between the Falcons.

1710
01:18:44,160 --> 01:18:44,960
Speaker 4: And the Buccaneers.

1711
01:18:45,439 --> 01:18:48,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, and we had a version of a shootout between

1712
01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:51,120
Speaker 5: the Falcons and the Panthers in this situation as well.

1713
01:18:51,560 --> 01:18:54,320
Speaker 5: I was quite honestly shocked by the fact to hear

1714
01:18:54,439 --> 01:18:57,800
Speaker 5: that Bijon Robinson it was his first time scoring two

1715
01:18:58,000 --> 01:19:01,559
Speaker 5: touchdown rushing touchdowns in a game like that, considering how

1716
01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:05,719
Speaker 5: incredible he has been. Look, when you get the Falcons,

1717
01:19:06,120 --> 01:19:08,559
Speaker 5: you just don't know which version of Kirk Cousins you're

1718
01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:12,000
Speaker 5: gonna get. So you know, he wasn't perfect by any means,

1719
01:19:12,240 --> 01:19:16,320
Speaker 5: nineteen of thirty throughout the game, but he was finding ways.

1720
01:19:16,400 --> 01:19:19,120
Speaker 5: Again you get the run game going, you know, great

1721
01:19:19,200 --> 01:19:21,720
Speaker 5: to see Tyler lgier Be, John Robinson doing their thing

1722
01:19:22,320 --> 01:19:25,479
Speaker 5: and then spreading the ball around his kind of top

1723
01:19:25,560 --> 01:19:27,639
Speaker 5: guys essentially Drake London, Kyle Pitts.

1724
01:19:28,439 --> 01:19:28,720
Speaker 8: It was.

1725
01:19:29,479 --> 01:19:32,040
Speaker 5: It was kind of just a regular Kirk Cousins game

1726
01:19:32,080 --> 01:19:32,280
Speaker 5: for me.

1727
01:19:32,439 --> 01:19:32,960
Speaker 4: In every year.

1728
01:19:33,160 --> 01:19:35,920
Speaker 1: Every week rather I go to the next Gen Stats

1729
01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:38,720
Speaker 1: box score to see the breakdown of like, okay, are

1730
01:19:38,760 --> 01:19:43,240
Speaker 1: they adding anything where Kirk Cousins moves, just like even

1731
01:19:43,320 --> 01:19:46,240
Speaker 1: a little is there any play action? And every week

1732
01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:49,920
Speaker 1: it's pretty disappointing for them, and yet they keep scoring.

1733
01:19:50,040 --> 01:19:54,200
Speaker 1: So today on play action three of seven for twenty

1734
01:19:54,320 --> 01:19:58,000
Speaker 1: nine yards, so it's still not happening, and yet they're

1735
01:19:58,120 --> 01:20:00,479
Speaker 1: one of the like highest producing passing games.

1736
01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:02,519
Speaker 8: In the league. Yeah, and even those play action things

1737
01:20:02,560 --> 01:20:04,800
Speaker 8: are quite junkie. A lot of it is flash fake stuff.

1738
01:20:04,840 --> 01:20:07,280
Speaker 8: It's not really turn the back true play action heavy

1739
01:20:07,320 --> 01:20:09,200
Speaker 8: cell because they don't trust him to move. And the

1740
01:20:09,280 --> 01:20:12,000
Speaker 8: Panthers got nowhere near Kirk Cousins today. They had four

1741
01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:14,880
Speaker 8: total pressures in the entire game, three game from one player,

1742
01:20:14,920 --> 01:20:17,120
Speaker 8: and they came in back to back to back plays.

1743
01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:19,000
Speaker 8: So for the most of the game he is untouched.

1744
01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:21,439
Speaker 8: You would really expect and hope you would see even

1745
01:20:21,560 --> 01:20:23,880
Speaker 8: more from them. I think in that situation, if Cousins's

1746
01:20:23,920 --> 01:20:25,880
Speaker 8: going to sit back there and play see it throw

1747
01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:27,880
Speaker 8: at football, you would expect that he'd be able to

1748
01:20:27,960 --> 01:20:29,760
Speaker 8: carve it up if there's no pressure there. But they

1749
01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:31,439
Speaker 8: get the wrong game going, and that's a huge thing.

1750
01:20:31,479 --> 01:20:33,720
Speaker 8: If they could not get movement from Cousins, they have

1751
01:20:33,840 --> 01:20:36,760
Speaker 8: to find movement somewhere from the wrong game, and they're

1752
01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:39,200
Speaker 8: now integrating new things into the offense in the wrong game,

1753
01:20:39,240 --> 01:20:42,000
Speaker 8: they're balancing it more between Algier and Robinson. So that

1754
01:20:42,040 --> 01:20:43,760
Speaker 8: would be the exciting thing to take out the game.

1755
01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:47,400
Speaker 3: The Panthers defense are not a viable NFL defense. Thirty

1756
01:20:47,439 --> 01:20:49,639
Speaker 3: four or more points in four out of six games

1757
01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:52,360
Speaker 3: this season. And actually we're talking about tradable pass rushers

1758
01:20:52,680 --> 01:20:55,000
Speaker 3: earlier in the show with the Lions. Jadavian Clowney another

1759
01:20:55,000 --> 01:20:57,320
Speaker 3: one who probably should be on that list and probably

1760
01:20:57,360 --> 01:20:58,920
Speaker 3: could be picked up for something mid round.

1761
01:20:59,080 --> 01:21:02,160
Speaker 4: But it needs to get healthy. But yes, that makes

1762
01:21:02,200 --> 01:21:02,880
Speaker 4: a lot of sense.

1763
01:21:03,560 --> 01:21:07,040
Speaker 3: It just felt like last week Kirk Cousins, what fifty

1764
01:21:07,040 --> 01:21:09,880
Speaker 3: eight passes and five hundred and nine yards in that

1765
01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:12,680
Speaker 3: overtime win over the Bucks. Today they just relied on

1766
01:21:12,720 --> 01:21:15,639
Speaker 3: the ground game, two hundred yards between their two leading rushers,

1767
01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:18,800
Speaker 3: three touchdowns between them as well. And it was one

1768
01:21:18,800 --> 01:21:21,320
Speaker 3: of those games which was a little bit like Buck

1769
01:21:21,439 --> 01:21:23,920
Speaker 3: Saints that was actually quite tight in the third quarter

1770
01:21:23,960 --> 01:21:25,479
Speaker 3: and you were surprised it was so if you were

1771
01:21:25,520 --> 01:21:27,800
Speaker 3: watching the game flow, and then the better team just

1772
01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:31,479
Speaker 3: pulled away later on. And you are establishing quite a

1773
01:21:31,640 --> 01:21:34,840
Speaker 3: strong division between those top two teams and the rest

1774
01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:35,360
Speaker 3: of the division.

1775
01:21:35,439 --> 01:21:37,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, and this isn't a great week to measure it,

1776
01:21:37,760 --> 01:21:41,120
Speaker 1: but they keep trying to get this outside zone running

1777
01:21:41,160 --> 01:21:44,000
Speaker 1: game working, and that's going to be important for them

1778
01:21:44,080 --> 01:21:46,599
Speaker 1: to get better at or just stop doing it. Over

1779
01:21:46,640 --> 01:21:49,120
Speaker 1: the course of the season, and every week I look

1780
01:21:49,200 --> 01:21:53,640
Speaker 1: and see I look for one stat, is Tyler Aldia's

1781
01:21:53,840 --> 01:21:58,000
Speaker 1: success rate higher than Bijon Robinson's In every week?

1782
01:21:58,320 --> 01:21:58,680
Speaker 8: It is?

1783
01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:02,240
Speaker 1: And so then I have to stop myself from criticizing

1784
01:22:02,320 --> 01:22:06,360
Speaker 1: them for using Algier equally with Robinson, because he is

1785
01:22:06,439 --> 01:22:08,720
Speaker 1: an effective player and he is fitting what they do.

1786
01:22:09,160 --> 01:22:12,000
Speaker 1: But this was great that they both had a great game.

1787
01:22:12,040 --> 01:22:14,360
Speaker 1: They both had very high success rates. There wasn't much

1788
01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:18,080
Speaker 1: difference between him and they're using their weapons. And you

1789
01:22:18,280 --> 01:22:21,760
Speaker 1: mentioned that about the Panthers pass rush. If you were

1790
01:22:21,880 --> 01:22:27,560
Speaker 1: just like power ranking different units in the league, like

1791
01:22:27,880 --> 01:22:31,920
Speaker 1: every possible units run defense, pass rush, like safety play,

1792
01:22:32,240 --> 01:22:36,040
Speaker 1: the Panthers pass rush might be there with the worst

1793
01:22:36,240 --> 01:22:40,040
Speaker 1: unit of any unit in the entire NFL.

1794
01:22:40,439 --> 01:22:42,479
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, we're picking between allful things. But I

1795
01:22:42,520 --> 01:22:45,080
Speaker 8: would encourage you to go through the Cordinal's death Shaw

1796
01:22:45,200 --> 01:22:48,720
Speaker 8: and you take the Cordinals are starting a team that,

1797
01:22:48,840 --> 01:22:50,600
Speaker 8: if you just go through name by name, is the

1798
01:22:50,680 --> 01:22:53,280
Speaker 8: second string on every of the team in the NFL

1799
01:22:53,400 --> 01:22:54,360
Speaker 8: outside of Okay.

1800
01:22:54,960 --> 01:22:55,360
Speaker 4: It's fair.

1801
01:22:55,640 --> 01:22:57,320
Speaker 1: It's a fair point. That's why that's why I like

1802
01:22:57,439 --> 01:23:00,240
Speaker 1: Ali to be here to check me. But yeah, this

1803
01:23:00,720 --> 01:23:03,240
Speaker 1: this past rush is rough. My other biggest takeaway from

1804
01:23:03,280 --> 01:23:07,800
Speaker 1: this game is Xavier legets you know, I've got big

1805
01:23:07,920 --> 01:23:10,519
Speaker 1: balls touchdown celebration or the horse riding.

1806
01:23:10,600 --> 01:23:11,479
Speaker 9: What what is it?

1807
01:23:11,840 --> 01:23:15,479
Speaker 4: And it's week after week. I love it? And did

1808
01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:16,599
Speaker 4: he do that in college?

1809
01:23:17,320 --> 01:23:19,559
Speaker 3: I'm in it was it was have to be better

1810
01:23:19,600 --> 01:23:22,519
Speaker 3: than the afternoon tea celebration that we saw in London

1811
01:23:22,600 --> 01:23:23,240
Speaker 3: today from the bear.

1812
01:23:23,439 --> 01:23:25,640
Speaker 1: Surely like it must be his thing because he's now

1813
01:23:25,760 --> 01:23:28,120
Speaker 1: he's now broken it out on multiple one of his

1814
01:23:28,360 --> 01:23:31,120
Speaker 1: touchdowns and it it looks like it was Nick van

1815
01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:34,480
Speaker 1: Exel right after he would hit the big three pointers

1816
01:23:34,600 --> 01:23:37,560
Speaker 1: and he would jump around and Xavier like it is

1817
01:23:37,600 --> 01:23:39,880
Speaker 1: either bringing that back or he's riding a horse.

1818
01:23:39,920 --> 01:23:41,400
Speaker 4: But I I think it's how.

1819
01:23:43,280 --> 01:23:44,960
Speaker 8: Well I love about Like, yeah, I think he's trying

1820
01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:47,280
Speaker 8: to throw people off. He's got the accent thing. He's

1821
01:23:47,320 --> 01:23:49,679
Speaker 8: doing this big balls thing. People start thinking this guy's

1822
01:23:49,720 --> 01:23:52,960
Speaker 8: not up too much. He plays really, really intelligently, and

1823
01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:56,760
Speaker 8: he's seamlessly slotted in and being a way bigger part

1824
01:23:56,760 --> 01:23:58,040
Speaker 8: of the offense. And I thought he would be just

1825
01:23:58,080 --> 01:23:59,640
Speaker 8: based on skill set in college. So I think he

1826
01:23:59,720 --> 01:24:02,960
Speaker 8: just throw defensive backs off with all this this ancillary.

1827
01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:03,960
Speaker 4: Good Jawn making a real point.

1828
01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:07,040
Speaker 3: Thank you. We'll not only going to tell you that

1829
01:24:07,240 --> 01:24:10,600
Speaker 3: Xavier gets riding a horse in his celebration, but I

1830
01:24:10,640 --> 01:24:13,679
Speaker 3: can tell you that he's riding his horse a dollar bill.

1831
01:24:13,800 --> 01:24:16,960
Speaker 3: Apparently he's dedicated the celebration to his horse.

1832
01:24:17,400 --> 01:24:20,200
Speaker 5: And we've got the outset he as a cowboy.

1833
01:24:20,320 --> 01:24:24,400
Speaker 4: I could have used Google and you've ruined my fantasy here.

1834
01:24:24,680 --> 01:24:28,280
Speaker 1: Well, let's go from one exciting NFC South game to

1835
01:24:28,880 --> 01:24:30,599
Speaker 1: an AFC South game.

1836
01:24:30,880 --> 01:24:33,519
Speaker 4: Colts, Hey, I had emotions.

1837
01:24:33,640 --> 01:24:35,920
Speaker 8: Josh Allens out of the right side, clack all five

1838
01:24:36,280 --> 01:24:37,519
Speaker 8: drop crowls office.

1839
01:24:37,320 --> 01:24:39,360
Speaker 10: Back foot into the end zone, going up and making.

1840
01:24:39,160 --> 01:24:41,519
Speaker 3: A bit on the balls. Michael pittm you got it?

1841
01:24:43,000 --> 01:24:48,280
Speaker 6: Hide why Pittman puts the Colts on top a ten

1842
01:24:48,400 --> 01:24:52,920
Speaker 6: yard pass Flacco to Pittman and the Colts lead nineteen

1843
01:24:53,080 --> 01:24:55,080
Speaker 6: to seventeen in Nashville.

1844
01:24:55,479 --> 01:24:58,760
Speaker 1: They can't keep letting him get away with it. Don't

1845
01:24:58,840 --> 01:25:01,960
Speaker 1: blackout it again. Twenty to seventeen.

1846
01:25:02,080 --> 01:25:05,200
Speaker 4: That was Matt Taylor on w f N I.

1847
01:25:05,600 --> 01:25:10,080
Speaker 1: Michael Pittman, who was supposedly going to injured reserve earlier

1848
01:25:10,200 --> 01:25:12,679
Speaker 1: this week and then ends up playing in this game,

1849
01:25:13,200 --> 01:25:17,200
Speaker 1: not only plays but catches the game winning touchdown on a.

1850
01:25:17,240 --> 01:25:20,000
Speaker 4: Play where he landed on his injured back.

1851
01:25:20,400 --> 01:25:24,400
Speaker 1: A crazy Joe Flacco throw, very similar to the throw

1852
01:25:24,520 --> 01:25:29,400
Speaker 1: he made last week which started the comeback against who

1853
01:25:29,439 --> 01:25:32,640
Speaker 1: are they playing last week? It is absolutely late Jacksonville

1854
01:25:32,680 --> 01:25:35,600
Speaker 1: in this game. The Colts win this one though, a

1855
01:25:35,680 --> 01:25:38,000
Speaker 1: key division win for them. They're managing the season well like,

1856
01:25:38,120 --> 01:25:40,200
Speaker 1: not playing great, but they're three and three. They put

1857
01:25:40,280 --> 01:25:42,800
Speaker 1: the Titans in a world of her only one win

1858
01:25:42,920 --> 01:25:45,920
Speaker 1: on the season. Will Levis doesn't crack one hundred yards

1859
01:25:46,080 --> 01:25:49,360
Speaker 1: in this game, Ali like, I'm just happy Joe Flacco

1860
01:25:49,479 --> 01:25:50,360
Speaker 1: was still in our lives.

1861
01:25:50,720 --> 01:25:52,800
Speaker 8: I am happy to That was not a good throw though,

1862
01:25:52,880 --> 01:25:54,760
Speaker 8: right am I misremembering now? It's a terrible throw of

1863
01:25:54,800 --> 01:25:56,080
Speaker 8: Pittman grubs it between two guys.

1864
01:25:56,120 --> 01:25:56,519
Speaker 2: I go on it.

1865
01:25:56,560 --> 01:25:57,680
Speaker 3: Even it's a.

1866
01:25:57,680 --> 01:26:00,479
Speaker 4: Results space business, sally, it's still counts.

1867
01:26:00,880 --> 01:26:02,600
Speaker 3: Pickman did all of the work there. He's going to

1868
01:26:02,680 --> 01:26:05,280
Speaker 3: get the best corner in football last year and somehow

1869
01:26:05,640 --> 01:26:05,920
Speaker 3: to make it.

1870
01:26:06,120 --> 01:26:08,720
Speaker 1: It was third down and Joe Flacco has decided I

1871
01:26:08,800 --> 01:26:13,200
Speaker 1: am too old to do anything but just throw it up.

1872
01:26:13,439 --> 01:26:15,439
Speaker 3: It was third down in Flacco, That's what it was, and.

1873
01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:17,000
Speaker 8: He missed the one to Piers too. They had the

1874
01:26:17,040 --> 01:26:19,080
Speaker 8: big shot to pierce out another third down and just

1875
01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:21,879
Speaker 8: throw it up that. I cannot even imagine the toughness

1876
01:26:21,880 --> 01:26:23,519
Speaker 8: of Michael Pittman. I'd know what's going on with the

1877
01:26:23,520 --> 01:26:26,120
Speaker 8: back injury. Back injuries to scare me no matter what. Anyway,

1878
01:26:26,160 --> 01:26:28,280
Speaker 8: if it does a school teacher, football player, whatever it is,

1879
01:26:28,760 --> 01:26:30,479
Speaker 8: to say, you're going to go to ir, he says, no,

1880
01:26:30,680 --> 01:26:31,800
Speaker 8: let me give it a go for a week and

1881
01:26:32,040 --> 01:26:34,759
Speaker 8: we'll figure out afterwards. He gets to catch on collision

1882
01:26:34,920 --> 01:26:37,000
Speaker 8: with two guys for the game winning score. Then they

1883
01:26:37,080 --> 01:26:38,880
Speaker 8: go back to him to ice the game, and on

1884
01:26:38,960 --> 01:26:42,120
Speaker 8: both plays basically the design and or end product is

1885
01:26:42,320 --> 01:26:44,080
Speaker 8: you have to fall on your back. That's what this

1886
01:26:44,240 --> 01:26:46,040
Speaker 8: is going to do. And he comes up for it

1887
01:26:46,160 --> 01:26:47,920
Speaker 8: and must have it moments. They only go to him

1888
01:26:47,960 --> 01:26:50,639
Speaker 8: three times. He gets them all, just big time, big

1889
01:26:50,720 --> 01:26:51,200
Speaker 8: time plays.

1890
01:26:51,600 --> 01:26:54,040
Speaker 5: I mean, it's pretty amazing what drugs can do to

1891
01:26:54,120 --> 01:26:56,559
Speaker 5: make you feel whilst playing a game.

1892
01:26:57,160 --> 01:27:02,519
Speaker 4: I mean, but it's put the football player here, the choir.

1893
01:27:04,080 --> 01:27:05,960
Speaker 5: I got you, guys, don't worry about it's too late.

1894
01:27:06,000 --> 01:27:09,040
Speaker 5: I have no filter anymore. But look, I mean, Joe

1895
01:27:09,120 --> 01:27:12,080
Speaker 5: Flacco is just incredible. What he's still able to do.

1896
01:27:12,200 --> 01:27:15,080
Speaker 5: I loved a clip from last week where he has

1897
01:27:15,479 --> 01:27:18,760
Speaker 5: throwing the ball and he has just stood there amongst

1898
01:27:18,840 --> 01:27:22,679
Speaker 5: the mayhem. He kind of is just living on free

1899
01:27:22,760 --> 01:27:24,840
Speaker 5: money right now. He's able to just have a great

1900
01:27:24,920 --> 01:27:28,400
Speaker 5: time and you know he's he's enjoying himself. He gets

1901
01:27:28,479 --> 01:27:30,320
Speaker 5: to keep playing week in and week out.

1902
01:27:31,240 --> 01:27:35,240
Speaker 1: And this was a weird situation where Anthony Richardson did

1903
01:27:35,320 --> 01:27:37,559
Speaker 1: practice during the week. He was a game time decision.

1904
01:27:38,320 --> 01:27:40,760
Speaker 1: They said they wanted to be extra safe, so he

1905
01:27:40,920 --> 01:27:43,720
Speaker 1: was the third quarterback. I think part of that was

1906
01:27:43,760 --> 01:27:48,320
Speaker 1: probably a calculus of Flacco's a little more regular with

1907
01:27:48,520 --> 01:27:51,599
Speaker 1: the timing and I'm sure Richardson isn't one hundred percent.

1908
01:27:52,560 --> 01:27:57,000
Speaker 1: But it's also not a franchise quarterback where, well, if

1909
01:27:57,040 --> 01:28:00,679
Speaker 1: he's at all able to play, he's going to play.

1910
01:28:00,960 --> 01:28:02,840
Speaker 1: You know what, Like if Dak Prescott had that level

1911
01:28:02,880 --> 01:28:05,479
Speaker 1: of injury, they would just play Dak Prescott. And that's fine.

1912
01:28:05,560 --> 01:28:08,680
Speaker 1: Like there can be gray area, doesn't mean that his

1913
01:28:08,880 --> 01:28:12,479
Speaker 1: job is at risk. I would like expect he plays

1914
01:28:12,600 --> 01:28:15,519
Speaker 1: next week. Who knows, but they're happy that Joe Flacco

1915
01:28:15,600 --> 01:28:17,720
Speaker 1: got them a win in the meantime on a day

1916
01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:20,719
Speaker 1: where look, they're starting running back when eighteen for twenty

1917
01:28:20,840 --> 01:28:24,880
Speaker 1: nine trace sermon, their defense carries the load, holds Will

1918
01:28:24,960 --> 01:28:27,479
Speaker 1: Levis under one hundred yards passing.

1919
01:28:27,680 --> 01:28:29,519
Speaker 3: This was it. They were fairy fortunate that on the

1920
01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:31,920
Speaker 3: other side of the ball, while Joe Flacco was statuesque

1921
01:28:31,920 --> 01:28:36,240
Speaker 3: as always, they had Will Levis, who with DeAndre Hopkins,

1922
01:28:36,520 --> 01:28:39,760
Speaker 3: Calvin Ridley, Tyler Boyd, Like there is no way, Like

1923
01:28:39,840 --> 01:28:42,000
Speaker 3: I almost feel like I could complete over one hundred

1924
01:28:42,080 --> 01:28:45,160
Speaker 3: yards of passing with that collection of receivers against an

1925
01:28:45,240 --> 01:28:51,000
Speaker 3: NFL defense. But Ridley caught zero of eight targets last night,

1926
01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:54,200
Speaker 3: And you just think to yourself, like, the Will Levis

1927
01:28:54,240 --> 01:28:57,880
Speaker 3: experiment feels like it's already done. I just don't know

1928
01:28:58,240 --> 01:29:00,840
Speaker 3: what the next answer is for them. They just seem

1929
01:29:00,880 --> 01:29:03,840
Speaker 3: to be floating through the rest of the season, Titans fans.

1930
01:29:03,920 --> 01:29:06,720
Speaker 3: And it's a rough point to be after six weeks.

1931
01:29:06,800 --> 01:29:10,000
Speaker 4: Too harsh like that it's done. One in four. This

1932
01:29:10,200 --> 01:29:11,840
Speaker 4: was a sneaky big game, not to the rest of

1933
01:29:11,880 --> 01:29:13,960
Speaker 4: the NFL, but to the Titans. This was a big game.

1934
01:29:14,040 --> 01:29:17,800
Speaker 1: This now it just feels like they're they're pretty buried there,

1935
01:29:17,880 --> 01:29:20,959
Speaker 1: and yes, they're not getting growth out of their quarterback.

1936
01:29:21,000 --> 01:29:23,879
Speaker 4: With a coach that was hired in part to develop

1937
01:29:23,960 --> 01:29:24,680
Speaker 4: this quarterback.

1938
01:29:25,000 --> 01:29:26,400
Speaker 8: I don't know if he has had to develop, and

1939
01:29:26,479 --> 01:29:28,120
Speaker 8: I think it was hard to figure out within six

1940
01:29:28,200 --> 01:29:29,760
Speaker 8: weeks is he a real guy or not? And I

1941
01:29:29,800 --> 01:29:32,120
Speaker 8: think they got their answer pretty quickly. It's not even

1942
01:29:32,360 --> 01:29:34,680
Speaker 8: if they had lost that that would be okay in

1943
01:29:34,800 --> 01:29:37,000
Speaker 8: terms of just Levis himself. When you watch him play

1944
01:29:37,040 --> 01:29:39,599
Speaker 8: and they're playing a defense that does absolutely nothing. They

1945
01:29:39,640 --> 01:29:41,280
Speaker 8: don't really have much of a pass rust. They have

1946
01:29:41,400 --> 01:29:43,600
Speaker 8: been cooked for four weeks. They do nothing on the

1947
01:29:43,680 --> 01:29:46,080
Speaker 8: back end to try and weird out quarterbacks. This would

1948
01:29:46,120 --> 01:29:48,160
Speaker 8: be the game where you say, okay, even if we

1949
01:29:48,240 --> 01:29:50,880
Speaker 8: get the two or three classic bone headed Will Levis plays,

1950
01:29:51,040 --> 01:29:52,760
Speaker 8: we should put up two hundred and fifty three hundred

1951
01:29:52,800 --> 01:29:54,680
Speaker 8: yards through the air. We can make some plays. We

1952
01:29:54,760 --> 01:29:57,519
Speaker 8: can still evaluate Levis. So that would be more concerning

1953
01:29:57,560 --> 01:29:59,400
Speaker 8: to me than even the record and even some of

1954
01:29:59,439 --> 01:30:03,439
Speaker 8: the unfortunate dom turnovers we've had this season. Because you

1955
01:30:03,520 --> 01:30:05,360
Speaker 8: just think the lake count happened forever. You would hope,

1956
01:30:05,360 --> 01:30:07,840
Speaker 8: but the fact you can't punish bad defense is gonna

1957
01:30:07,840 --> 01:30:08,479
Speaker 8: stay consistent.

1958
01:30:08,800 --> 01:30:11,080
Speaker 5: I think the biggest problem is that you would just

1959
01:30:11,200 --> 01:30:15,160
Speaker 5: hope to see development and learning, and it's you can

1960
01:30:15,280 --> 01:30:19,040
Speaker 5: see why they're getting frustrated when you're making similar, if

1961
01:30:19,080 --> 01:30:21,400
Speaker 5: not the same, exact mistakes week in and week out.

1962
01:30:21,479 --> 01:30:24,040
Speaker 5: And yes, there's an element where he still is a

1963
01:30:24,120 --> 01:30:26,840
Speaker 5: younger guy in the NFL terms, you know, only going

1964
01:30:26,840 --> 01:30:28,599
Speaker 5: in his second year. He didn't play obviously a full

1965
01:30:28,640 --> 01:30:32,120
Speaker 5: season last year. But you can't keep making the same mistakes.

1966
01:30:32,160 --> 01:30:33,719
Speaker 5: You've got to be able to show progress.

1967
01:30:33,840 --> 01:30:37,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I will see your making the same mistakes, and

1968
01:30:38,000 --> 01:30:41,200
Speaker 1: I will raise you from Will Levis Adshaun Watson.

1969
01:30:41,360 --> 01:30:44,599
Speaker 4: Let's go to UH Eagles and the Browns.

1970
01:30:45,240 --> 01:30:47,840
Speaker 3: Hurts in the gun sloped to the foreside.

1971
01:30:48,400 --> 01:30:50,880
Speaker 13: Mark Legan was right on second down.

1972
01:30:50,920 --> 01:30:54,439
Speaker 8: He's back, he's looking, he is going deep down the fore.

1973
01:30:54,439 --> 01:30:58,400
Speaker 15: Side of the field, and it is caught. He the town.

1974
01:31:00,240 --> 01:31:03,439
Speaker 4: Well put on. It's just what a prow, what a cat.

1975
01:31:03,600 --> 01:31:04,519
Speaker 9: That's just fun.

1976
01:31:05,120 --> 01:31:10,680
Speaker 1: There is something absolutely beautiful about a Meryl Reese call

1977
01:31:10,760 --> 01:31:14,280
Speaker 1: on wip. But there's something even more beautiful, Will Gavin

1978
01:31:14,720 --> 01:31:17,960
Speaker 1: about a Dalen Hertz go ball to AJ Brown. You

1979
01:31:18,000 --> 01:31:21,240
Speaker 1: can say whatever you want about Dalen Hurts, like that

1980
01:31:21,479 --> 01:31:24,240
Speaker 1: man throws a perfect go ball and he has the

1981
01:31:24,360 --> 01:31:25,760
Speaker 1: perfect man to catch it.

1982
01:31:26,240 --> 01:31:27,160
Speaker 4: In AJ Brown.

1983
01:31:27,280 --> 01:31:29,360
Speaker 1: It's funny, how you know, you bring AJ Brown and

1984
01:31:29,400 --> 01:31:32,479
Speaker 1: DeVante Smith back and you're a little better on offense,

1985
01:31:32,520 --> 01:31:36,160
Speaker 1: at least enough better to win twenty to sixteen over.

1986
01:31:36,120 --> 01:31:39,719
Speaker 3: The Brown six four one hundred and sixteen AJ Brown today.

1987
01:31:39,760 --> 01:31:43,760
Speaker 3: But the touchdown, he had zero point three yards of

1988
01:31:43,880 --> 01:31:46,560
Speaker 3: separation for that one according to next Gen Stats. And

1989
01:31:46,960 --> 01:31:48,680
Speaker 3: you had that, and you had DeVonta Smith in as

1990
01:31:48,720 --> 01:31:51,280
Speaker 3: you mentioned, three catches sixty four and that fourth quarter

1991
01:31:51,400 --> 01:31:55,920
Speaker 3: touchdown as well, and suddenly the Eagles offense kind of

1992
01:31:56,120 --> 01:31:58,840
Speaker 3: starts to get rolling again. They still struggle to finish

1993
01:31:58,920 --> 01:32:01,200
Speaker 3: drives a little bit. This game, it felt like it's

1994
01:32:01,360 --> 01:32:05,519
Speaker 3: the Browns defense we've known, have their strengths, and therefore,

1995
01:32:06,640 --> 01:32:08,720
Speaker 3: restricting the Eagles to twenty points in a day where

1996
01:32:08,720 --> 01:32:11,200
Speaker 3: they are getting big games from their big receivers is

1997
01:32:11,320 --> 01:32:16,360
Speaker 3: relatively impressive. And actually Deshaun Watson didn't have a terrible game.

1998
01:32:16,800 --> 01:32:19,879
Speaker 3: Dare I say, probably his best performance for the Browns

1999
01:32:19,920 --> 01:32:22,600
Speaker 3: this season. So this wasn't much much tighter game than

2000
01:32:22,640 --> 01:32:25,120
Speaker 3: I was expecting. Came away with it at.

2001
01:32:25,200 --> 01:32:27,439
Speaker 4: You probably watched this game closer than me.

2002
01:32:27,800 --> 01:32:31,559
Speaker 1: Someone explained to me how the team with one hundred

2003
01:32:31,560 --> 01:32:36,080
Speaker 1: and forty four net passing yards and nine points, like

2004
01:32:36,200 --> 01:32:38,519
Speaker 1: had a better quarterback performance, Cause there might be an answer,

2005
01:32:38,600 --> 01:32:39,920
Speaker 1: There always can be.

2006
01:32:40,080 --> 01:32:43,559
Speaker 8: But what's had a very good game against the Readers,

2007
01:32:43,640 --> 01:32:45,920
Speaker 8: and other than that, he's not like an NFL player.

2008
01:32:46,400 --> 01:32:49,479
Speaker 3: Honestly, it's just one drive and basically he had one

2009
01:32:49,640 --> 01:32:53,400
Speaker 3: really good drive and that's essentially better than he has

2010
01:32:53,520 --> 01:32:54,040
Speaker 3: most weeks.

2011
01:32:54,240 --> 01:32:57,160
Speaker 8: And the only caveat well, let me just say on Watson,

2012
01:32:57,560 --> 01:32:59,360
Speaker 8: the weird thing with him now is he used to

2013
01:32:59,439 --> 01:33:03,320
Speaker 8: be dying against pressure. Not only would he beat pressure,

2014
01:33:03,360 --> 01:33:05,479
Speaker 8: he was by far and away the best quartersback in

2015
01:33:05,479 --> 01:33:07,439
Speaker 8: the league get throwing when he was under pressure. Now

2016
01:33:07,520 --> 01:33:10,240
Speaker 8: he is just in full on seeing ghosts, can't see

2017
01:33:10,280 --> 01:33:13,200
Speaker 8: the past rush connovated mode, and it's just become an

2018
01:33:13,200 --> 01:33:16,519
Speaker 8: absolute disaster. He's turning down wide over open receivers, he's

2019
01:33:16,600 --> 01:33:18,640
Speaker 8: bailing too early. Then he's hanging in too late on

2020
01:33:18,760 --> 01:33:21,639
Speaker 8: other opportunities. But there is a broader issue with him.

2021
01:33:21,640 --> 01:33:23,439
Speaker 8: I think it's way too easy to say it's all

2022
01:33:23,439 --> 01:33:25,280
Speaker 8: on Deshaun Watson. He's not good enough. He had an

2023
01:33:25,280 --> 01:33:27,400
Speaker 8: excellent game against the Raiders and they stung in that

2024
01:33:27,520 --> 01:33:31,400
Speaker 8: game as well. Just operationally, they are a disaster. Coaching wise,

2025
01:33:31,520 --> 01:33:34,280
Speaker 8: it's really been really, really poor. Every single time they

2026
01:33:34,320 --> 01:33:36,280
Speaker 8: get into the red zone. Every single time and they're

2027
01:33:36,280 --> 01:33:38,679
Speaker 8: barely there, they get some kind of penalty, and it's

2028
01:33:38,760 --> 01:33:41,559
Speaker 8: always a pre snap operational one. It's not a holding.

2029
01:33:41,760 --> 01:33:44,519
Speaker 8: It's always a false start and illegal shift something to

2030
01:33:44,600 --> 01:33:46,160
Speaker 8: back them up. They had a chance to go and

2031
01:33:46,200 --> 01:33:47,880
Speaker 8: win this game down the stretch, and they blew it

2032
01:33:47,920 --> 01:33:49,519
Speaker 8: because they're having penalties in the red zone.

2033
01:33:49,760 --> 01:33:52,519
Speaker 5: I mean, we talked earlier about bad body language. I mean,

2034
01:33:52,600 --> 01:33:55,000
Speaker 5: this whole team gives bad body language. I mean, I

2035
01:33:55,080 --> 01:33:57,200
Speaker 5: know Omari Cooper has a little bit of that in him,

2036
01:33:57,320 --> 01:34:01,000
Speaker 5: but how do you how do you watch this team

2037
01:34:01,040 --> 01:34:03,280
Speaker 5: and think, Man, these guys really want to play for

2038
01:34:03,360 --> 01:34:06,720
Speaker 5: each other. They love playing together, Like you have no

2039
01:34:06,880 --> 01:34:10,560
Speaker 5: strong leadership. You've got a quarterback in there who I

2040
01:34:10,640 --> 01:34:13,400
Speaker 5: truthfully don't believe that everybody wants in that building anyways.

2041
01:34:13,920 --> 01:34:16,479
Speaker 5: What makes you want to go out week in and

2042
01:34:16,560 --> 01:34:19,600
Speaker 5: week out and play for each other? I mean, I

2043
01:34:20,320 --> 01:34:22,800
Speaker 5: think back to the video clip of Joel but TONI

2044
01:34:23,160 --> 01:34:27,479
Speaker 5: when when you know he doesn't help up, he doesn't

2045
01:34:27,520 --> 01:34:30,200
Speaker 5: want the help of Jean Watson. That for me and

2046
01:34:30,439 --> 01:34:32,760
Speaker 5: Joel is the nicest man I've ever met like that

2047
01:34:32,880 --> 01:34:35,400
Speaker 5: for me, says so much about a team, And so no,

2048
01:34:36,000 --> 01:34:38,840
Speaker 5: I'm not surprised that if you have no discipline in

2049
01:34:38,960 --> 01:34:41,320
Speaker 5: the classroom, you're not gonna have discipline on the field either.

2050
01:34:41,760 --> 01:34:45,200
Speaker 8: And it's getting to me pretty evident that there's some

2051
01:34:45,439 --> 01:34:47,479
Speaker 8: mandate that they can't bench the guy even for a

2052
01:34:47,520 --> 01:34:48,360
Speaker 8: couple of series.

2053
01:34:48,560 --> 01:34:49,840
Speaker 4: Well, because.

2054
01:34:51,000 --> 01:34:54,040
Speaker 8: They are running stuff. They had a second and fifteen

2055
01:34:54,040 --> 01:34:55,680
Speaker 8: they called a droll play. They had a third and

2056
01:34:55,760 --> 01:34:57,960
Speaker 8: seventeen they called a tight end screen. That is, we

2057
01:34:58,120 --> 01:35:00,599
Speaker 8: don't like and trustock quote back with paying in more

2058
01:35:00,640 --> 01:35:03,439
Speaker 8: than anyone in the league. And it's second and fifteen.

2059
01:35:03,640 --> 01:35:06,160
Speaker 8: And if that's Dak Prescott, Josh Allen, any of these guys,

2060
01:35:06,520 --> 01:35:07,840
Speaker 8: you try and find a way to rip it down

2061
01:35:07,880 --> 01:35:09,720
Speaker 8: the field and they're like, we are avoiding this, we

2062
01:35:09,800 --> 01:35:11,400
Speaker 8: are out of this drive. We may as well just

2063
01:35:11,520 --> 01:35:13,800
Speaker 8: put on second down because we don't trust to Sean Watson,

2064
01:35:13,800 --> 01:35:15,439
Speaker 8: Then why is he the starting quarts back if we

2065
01:35:15,439 --> 01:35:16,080
Speaker 8: don't trust the guy?

2066
01:35:16,280 --> 01:35:19,680
Speaker 1: Right, I should mention that the Browns only touchdown in

2067
01:35:19,800 --> 01:35:22,680
Speaker 1: this game was on a field goal block recovered by

2068
01:35:22,760 --> 01:35:25,880
Speaker 1: Rodney McLeod. So when I say nine points that that

2069
01:35:26,040 --> 01:35:29,400
Speaker 1: was what they scored on offense, just three field goals,

2070
01:35:29,560 --> 01:35:33,080
Speaker 1: And I think they're testing that theory of yoursali that

2071
01:35:33,320 --> 01:35:36,360
Speaker 1: you can't bench him. Although I think his play has

2072
01:35:36,520 --> 01:35:40,240
Speaker 1: warranted benching, I think considering that once they bench him,

2073
01:35:40,720 --> 01:35:43,639
Speaker 1: he will never play for them ever again, and everything

2074
01:35:43,720 --> 01:35:46,800
Speaker 1: that goes in that in ownership, I actually think it's

2075
01:35:47,600 --> 01:35:51,240
Speaker 1: predictable that to this point they wouldn't have benched him.

2076
01:35:51,800 --> 01:35:56,200
Speaker 1: I think this week is one inflection point. I think

2077
01:35:56,240 --> 01:35:58,519
Speaker 1: there's a chance that he is benched. On Tuesday, Kevin

2078
01:35:58,520 --> 01:36:01,200
Speaker 1: Stefanski said, yes, he's our star quarterback after the game.

2079
01:36:01,400 --> 01:36:03,439
Speaker 1: They always say that right after the game, so it's

2080
01:36:03,560 --> 01:36:06,760
Speaker 1: gonna take a larger conversation. I think it's a week

2081
01:36:06,840 --> 01:36:10,200
Speaker 1: to week basis now and the next catastrophic game, and

2082
01:36:10,320 --> 01:36:12,920
Speaker 1: maybe this is somewhere in between. So they string it

2083
01:36:13,000 --> 01:36:16,240
Speaker 1: out one more week like it's coming. It's not going

2084
01:36:16,320 --> 01:36:19,519
Speaker 1: to continue like this. They just owe it to the

2085
01:36:19,600 --> 01:36:21,800
Speaker 1: rest of the team. And the reason is, even though

2086
01:36:21,960 --> 01:36:25,800
Speaker 1: operationally they're a disaster, and even though the defense is

2087
01:36:26,040 --> 01:36:30,080
Speaker 1: clearly not as good as it was a year ago,

2088
01:36:30,320 --> 01:36:33,920
Speaker 1: we've just seen every other quarterback who was playing under

2089
01:36:34,000 --> 01:36:37,519
Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski in Cleveland have such higher moments that you

2090
01:36:37,760 --> 01:36:40,280
Speaker 1: just got it, just just to feel like you're being

2091
01:36:40,400 --> 01:36:41,800
Speaker 1: honest with the rest of the team.

2092
01:36:42,040 --> 01:36:44,120
Speaker 3: The ridiculous thing is there's this idea that they're making

2093
01:36:44,160 --> 01:36:47,200
Speaker 3: a business decision because there's this one hundred and forty

2094
01:36:47,320 --> 01:36:49,800
Speaker 3: million dollars worth of cap money that is still there

2095
01:36:50,200 --> 01:36:52,920
Speaker 3: over the next two years. But guess what, that's still

2096
01:36:53,000 --> 01:36:55,120
Speaker 3: there even if you bench him or even if you

2097
01:36:55,200 --> 01:36:57,360
Speaker 3: cut him, and at least you might have half decent

2098
01:36:57,479 --> 01:37:00,400
Speaker 3: quarterback play Like Jameis Winston. We know is not a

2099
01:37:00,479 --> 01:37:03,519
Speaker 3: franchise quarterback, but what he is is a guy who

2100
01:37:03,960 --> 01:37:07,240
Speaker 3: gets people going. Teammates love him, gives you that bit

2101
01:37:07,280 --> 01:37:10,559
Speaker 3: of juice. And we've seen him on the sidelines, leading

2102
01:37:10,720 --> 01:37:13,519
Speaker 3: these these huddles and leading these big speeches. He's a

2103
01:37:13,600 --> 01:37:16,679
Speaker 3: priest team while he's also then going back and sitting

2104
01:37:16,720 --> 01:37:18,600
Speaker 3: on the bench and letting Deshaun Watson go in and

2105
01:37:18,640 --> 01:37:22,799
Speaker 3: make these horrible plays. And I just I cannot fathom

2106
01:37:22,840 --> 01:37:26,080
Speaker 3: at this point how he is still even on the roster,

2107
01:37:26,240 --> 01:37:28,760
Speaker 3: let alone starting for them. It's it's mad he.

2108
01:37:28,800 --> 01:37:30,400
Speaker 8: Can father way he's on the roster because they can't

2109
01:37:30,439 --> 01:37:32,040
Speaker 8: afford not to have him on the roster. It's on

2110
01:37:32,120 --> 01:37:34,320
Speaker 8: the weirdest situations ever. They gave him the most ludicrous

2111
01:37:34,640 --> 01:37:36,720
Speaker 8: contract of all time, and now they have to just

2112
01:37:36,800 --> 01:37:38,720
Speaker 8: live with it. The business decision now is who wants

2113
01:37:38,760 --> 01:37:40,439
Speaker 8: to keep their job in the building. Does Kevin's fans

2114
01:37:40,479 --> 01:37:42,240
Speaker 8: want to have a job Morgan, he wants to pay

2115
01:37:42,320 --> 01:37:44,160
Speaker 8: because he's going to have to start someone else to

2116
01:37:44,200 --> 01:37:46,760
Speaker 8: show something here. If, like you said, Greg, we've seen

2117
01:37:47,640 --> 01:37:49,840
Speaker 8: bring Joe Flack off a couch, we can score points.

2118
01:37:50,120 --> 01:37:53,280
Speaker 8: He could bench him and show it's not me, it's

2119
01:37:53,360 --> 01:37:55,200
Speaker 8: this guy. You screwed up the contract.

2120
01:37:55,560 --> 01:37:57,160
Speaker 4: You're gonna have to start around. I've seen that. Yeah,

2121
01:37:57,160 --> 01:37:59,599
Speaker 4: I feel like we have seen that over and over again.

2122
01:37:59,640 --> 01:38:02,200
Speaker 1: But you're you could prove it on this particular hell

2123
01:38:02,280 --> 01:38:03,519
Speaker 1: trade for Jacoby Brissett.

2124
01:38:03,560 --> 01:38:04,840
Speaker 4: I mean I wouldn't want to give him.

2125
01:38:04,880 --> 01:38:06,600
Speaker 1: I kind of like I like him having there with

2126
01:38:06,760 --> 01:38:08,840
Speaker 1: Drake May, but we've seen Jacoby with them, and this

2127
01:38:09,000 --> 01:38:11,920
Speaker 1: is a perfect win for the Eagles because you know,

2128
01:38:12,000 --> 01:38:14,040
Speaker 1: coaches like to say yeah, you like you like to

2129
01:38:14,120 --> 01:38:17,120
Speaker 1: coach them hard after a win, and there are things

2130
01:38:17,200 --> 01:38:20,160
Speaker 1: that they won't like about this. Saquon Barkley only ends

2131
01:38:20,240 --> 01:38:23,160
Speaker 1: up with forty seven yards rushing, but more importantly like

2132
01:38:23,240 --> 01:38:26,400
Speaker 1: it's a perfect win for the media in Philly, because

2133
01:38:26,400 --> 01:38:28,679
Speaker 1: no one's gonna be happy with a twenty to sixteen

2134
01:38:28,800 --> 01:38:32,760
Speaker 1: win over the Browns. Everyone loses Eagles, Browns. Let's go

2135
01:38:32,840 --> 01:38:35,439
Speaker 1: to a game where a team definitively won. That team

2136
01:38:35,960 --> 01:38:38,879
Speaker 1: was the Pittsburgh Steelers in Las Vegas?

2137
01:38:39,000 --> 01:38:41,000
Speaker 4: Or was it Las Vegas? It didn't sound like it

2138
01:38:41,040 --> 01:38:42,080
Speaker 4: if you saw the crowd there.

2139
01:38:42,479 --> 01:38:43,519
Speaker 5: Harris alone setback.

2140
01:38:43,560 --> 01:38:45,240
Speaker 4: We'll get the pitch as he was trying to seal

2141
01:38:45,280 --> 01:38:47,040
Speaker 4: the edge. Naji oh able.

2142
01:38:46,920 --> 01:38:49,480
Speaker 10: To slide inside one tackle, get down the sideline.

2143
01:38:49,720 --> 01:38:55,000
Speaker 6: Naji Harris Cracy towards the Enzo scrawls out busy in touchdown.

2144
01:38:55,160 --> 01:38:59,080
Speaker 4: Steelers. What a run by Najie Harris. What a run

2145
01:38:59,160 --> 01:39:00,400
Speaker 4: by the iron Horse?

2146
01:39:00,640 --> 01:39:01,360
Speaker 7: Did you see him?

2147
01:39:01,400 --> 01:39:04,320
Speaker 3: He coasted two men on the end of the line.

2148
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Speaker 13: Then he took it up the sidelines and like Superman,

2149
01:39:07,960 --> 01:39:08,240
Speaker 13: lay it.

2150
01:39:08,320 --> 01:39:09,960
Speaker 3: Out and jock the end zone.

2151
01:39:10,520 --> 01:39:13,400
Speaker 1: I love it. Nase Harris with a big play. Just

2152
01:39:14,040 --> 01:39:16,800
Speaker 1: haven't heard that enough, Not this season, not in a while.

2153
01:39:17,040 --> 01:39:21,600
Speaker 1: Wdvee Rob King, Craig Wolfley. Yes, Harris ends up with

2154
01:39:21,640 --> 01:39:25,479
Speaker 1: one hundred and six yards on the ground and that touchdown,

2155
01:39:25,560 --> 01:39:30,000
Speaker 1: the Steelers pull away late. It's twelve seven at halftime,

2156
01:39:30,120 --> 01:39:34,280
Speaker 1: it ends up thirty two to thirteen. Will It's been

2157
01:39:35,080 --> 01:39:39,519
Speaker 1: a season where the Steelers make the most out of

2158
01:39:39,640 --> 01:39:43,360
Speaker 1: their offense. On a day that Dustin Field maybe had

2159
01:39:43,439 --> 01:39:46,000
Speaker 1: one of his worst games as a member of the Steelers,

2160
01:39:46,280 --> 01:39:49,400
Speaker 1: they still win by three scores in Las Vegas.

2161
01:39:49,560 --> 01:39:52,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Naja Harris is one of the most frustrating

2162
01:39:52,280 --> 01:39:54,519
Speaker 3: running backs I think in the NFL, because you see

2163
01:39:54,680 --> 01:39:56,559
Speaker 3: him have games like this and you see that there

2164
01:39:56,640 --> 01:39:59,080
Speaker 3: is clearly a level of talent there. And yet this season,

2165
01:39:59,240 --> 01:40:02,040
Speaker 3: prior to the today where he averaged seven point six

2166
01:40:02,479 --> 01:40:04,880
Speaker 3: yards per carry, there was only one previous game where

2167
01:40:04,880 --> 01:40:06,639
Speaker 3: he went over four yards to carry. There's a lot

2168
01:40:06,720 --> 01:40:09,760
Speaker 3: of fourteen for forty twos in his past like he

2169
01:40:09,800 --> 01:40:12,360
Speaker 3: had last week, or thirteen for nineteen like he did

2170
01:40:12,400 --> 01:40:15,160
Speaker 3: against the Colts. That feels like Najeris isn't the guy

2171
01:40:15,160 --> 01:40:17,000
Speaker 3: who falls forwards. He's not the guy who gained you

2172
01:40:17,080 --> 01:40:20,519
Speaker 3: those extra yards. And yet today really really impressive thought,

2173
01:40:21,000 --> 01:40:24,800
Speaker 3: fought through multiple tacklers, picked up yards after contact, and

2174
01:40:25,160 --> 01:40:28,280
Speaker 3: really carried this team for huge, huge stretches. So if

2175
01:40:28,280 --> 01:40:30,519
Speaker 3: you can get a run game going, and you've got

2176
01:40:30,560 --> 01:40:32,880
Speaker 3: the defense the Steelers have, then you've got a very

2177
01:40:32,880 --> 01:40:35,479
Speaker 3: good chance of winning games of football. Because you know

2178
01:40:35,720 --> 01:40:38,080
Speaker 3: who we haven't talked about as much this year because

2179
01:40:38,280 --> 01:40:40,400
Speaker 3: he's one of those guys who's always in the defensive

2180
01:40:40,439 --> 01:40:43,920
Speaker 3: player of the year conversation. TJ. Watt had an absolute

2181
01:40:44,160 --> 01:40:48,799
Speaker 3: day today. Two forced fumbles, both times proper peanut punching

2182
01:40:48,840 --> 01:40:51,400
Speaker 3: the ball out, one of them right on the goal line,

2183
01:40:51,720 --> 01:40:53,439
Speaker 3: just when the Raiders looked like they were coming back

2184
01:40:53,479 --> 01:40:57,200
Speaker 3: into the game. And you feel like, regardless of whether

2185
01:40:57,280 --> 01:40:59,240
Speaker 3: Fields has his best day or not, regardless if they

2186
01:40:59,280 --> 01:41:01,880
Speaker 3: end up giving Russ, Wilson and Troy, this defense is

2187
01:41:01,920 --> 01:41:03,960
Speaker 3: going to carry them to the playoffs and maybe even

2188
01:41:04,000 --> 01:41:05,360
Speaker 3: to a couple of wins in the playoffs.

2189
01:41:05,520 --> 01:41:07,599
Speaker 5: But I think anytime you have TJ. Watt, you've got

2190
01:41:07,640 --> 01:41:08,040
Speaker 5: a chance.

2191
01:41:08,200 --> 01:41:08,320
Speaker 13: Right.

2192
01:41:08,960 --> 01:41:11,040
Speaker 5: I love the way that he plays because he doesn't

2193
01:41:11,439 --> 01:41:13,639
Speaker 5: he doesn't play like you're winning or like you're losing.

2194
01:41:13,720 --> 01:41:17,320
Speaker 5: He is just consistent and he's consistently coming after you.

2195
01:41:17,840 --> 01:41:21,000
Speaker 5: His ability, his physicality, the way that he's able to

2196
01:41:21,640 --> 01:41:25,400
Speaker 5: manipulate the offensive line. I mean, anytime there's a third down,

2197
01:41:25,479 --> 01:41:26,479
Speaker 5: you're like, all right, we're's CJ.

2198
01:41:26,560 --> 01:41:26,800
Speaker 4: Watt.

2199
01:41:26,800 --> 01:41:29,840
Speaker 5: He's about to make a play, and he's terrific. I mean,

2200
01:41:30,400 --> 01:41:34,040
Speaker 5: he gives that team life. He is completely the leader

2201
01:41:34,040 --> 01:41:37,320
Speaker 5: of the team, especially when Justin Field doesn't necessarily that

2202
01:41:37,560 --> 01:41:41,040
Speaker 5: guy you look at who totally embodies the Steelers, that

2203
01:41:41,200 --> 01:41:41,519
Speaker 5: is TJ.

2204
01:41:41,640 --> 01:41:41,880
Speaker 3: Watt.

2205
01:41:41,920 --> 01:41:47,240
Speaker 1: All right, we've reached four am. We are circling back

2206
01:41:47,400 --> 01:41:51,760
Speaker 1: for the Phoebe wellness check. You've been sneaking in bites here?

2207
01:41:52,240 --> 01:41:53,160
Speaker 1: How is everything they have?

2208
01:41:53,520 --> 01:41:55,360
Speaker 5: I have been awake for twenty two hours.

2209
01:41:55,560 --> 01:41:57,360
Speaker 4: We were almost there.

2210
01:41:57,840 --> 01:41:59,840
Speaker 1: One more game after this than we throw it to

2211
01:42:00,040 --> 01:42:03,320
Speaker 1: our friend Nick Shook for Sunday Night Football.

2212
01:42:03,439 --> 01:42:04,760
Speaker 4: But I don't know.

2213
01:42:04,760 --> 01:42:06,479
Speaker 1: I don't know what to think about this Steelers team,

2214
01:42:06,720 --> 01:42:09,680
Speaker 1: but I do like that they're like a maybe not

2215
01:42:09,760 --> 01:42:12,280
Speaker 1: a main character of this season, but a solid supporting

2216
01:42:12,479 --> 01:42:14,320
Speaker 1: character that like could get some awards.

2217
01:42:14,360 --> 01:42:14,639
Speaker 4: Buzz.

2218
01:42:15,000 --> 01:42:17,400
Speaker 8: Yeah, we had Wilson on the sideline right he's he's

2219
01:42:17,479 --> 01:42:19,519
Speaker 8: hanging out there trying to poke his head around seeing

2220
01:42:19,520 --> 01:42:21,519
Speaker 8: if he can get involved. My I'm just still trying

2221
01:42:21,520 --> 01:42:23,799
Speaker 8: to recover. I'm very very UPSETM going through a personal

2222
01:42:23,840 --> 01:42:26,000
Speaker 8: thing right now. Zach Fraser left the game in a

2223
01:42:26,040 --> 01:42:28,400
Speaker 8: walking boom. Who was my pick for Rookie of the

2224
01:42:28,520 --> 01:42:30,200
Speaker 8: Year and still would be as good as Jane Dines

2225
01:42:30,200 --> 01:42:32,160
Speaker 8: as being one of the most talented players that's come

2226
01:42:32,200 --> 01:42:34,120
Speaker 8: into the league in a long time, as being unbelievable.

2227
01:42:34,360 --> 01:42:35,360
Speaker 8: That is a huge blow.

2228
01:42:35,400 --> 01:42:37,960
Speaker 4: If they give us a minute on Zach Fraser here,

2229
01:42:38,120 --> 01:42:39,599
Speaker 4: because this is this is your.

2230
01:42:39,600 --> 01:42:42,200
Speaker 8: Chance, four m in the morning. Zach Fraser breakdown. Just

2231
01:42:42,479 --> 01:42:45,960
Speaker 8: the most well crafted, well honed center that's come into

2232
01:42:45,960 --> 01:42:49,400
Speaker 8: the league in generations. I would say I'm not used

2233
01:42:49,760 --> 01:42:52,120
Speaker 8: as effectively honestly as he could be, but his ability

2234
01:42:52,280 --> 01:42:54,759
Speaker 8: to read things, pick things up. Mostly in past protection,

2235
01:42:54,840 --> 01:42:57,720
Speaker 8: he was known coming in as this undersized, explosive get

2236
01:42:57,760 --> 01:42:59,840
Speaker 8: out in space blocker. You can do things where you

2237
01:42:59,840 --> 01:43:01,240
Speaker 8: can pin him and you can move from you can

2238
01:43:01,280 --> 01:43:03,799
Speaker 8: build a wrong game around him. What's really being impressed

2239
01:43:03,800 --> 01:43:06,160
Speaker 8: about him is teams have gone after him, trying to

2240
01:43:06,160 --> 01:43:08,120
Speaker 8: attack him in passport. They've tried to get after him

2241
01:43:08,160 --> 01:43:10,439
Speaker 8: by blitzing Kim standing two guys over him. He just

2242
01:43:10,520 --> 01:43:13,000
Speaker 8: has a great sense of awareness for what to pick up,

2243
01:43:13,040 --> 01:43:15,560
Speaker 8: who to pick up depths really nerdy things. None of

2244
01:43:15,600 --> 01:43:17,519
Speaker 8: you guys are interested, and I can see around.

2245
01:43:17,280 --> 01:43:21,559
Speaker 4: Them so interested. I'm writing notes to support your point.

2246
01:43:22,640 --> 01:43:24,880
Speaker 8: So yeah, he just he has walked in from day

2247
01:43:24,960 --> 01:43:27,840
Speaker 8: one an all pro caliber level at center, which you

2248
01:43:28,040 --> 01:43:30,200
Speaker 8: never ever ever see these guys. Usually you will see

2249
01:43:30,479 --> 01:43:33,240
Speaker 8: some flashy plays, some clips that go around and you think, oh,

2250
01:43:33,280 --> 01:43:35,120
Speaker 8: this guy's going to be really, really good, but it

2251
01:43:35,160 --> 01:43:36,920
Speaker 8: takes them all two three to pick up all the

2252
01:43:37,000 --> 01:43:39,240
Speaker 8: nuances of the position. He stepped in in day one

2253
01:43:39,600 --> 01:43:42,720
Speaker 8: was immediately perfect. His tape against the Colts is the

2254
01:43:42,760 --> 01:43:44,720
Speaker 8: best tape of any center you will see in the

2255
01:43:44,800 --> 01:43:45,479
Speaker 8: league this season.

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Speaker 1: That is incredible that you know, this is a team

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01:43:49,400 --> 01:43:54,240
Speaker 1: in the Steelers that has an insane history at the

2258
01:43:54,320 --> 01:43:56,760
Speaker 1: center position, and so it's so crazy you say that

2259
01:43:56,840 --> 01:44:01,000
Speaker 1: that generational how he's come into this season and so

2260
01:44:01,080 --> 01:44:03,920
Speaker 1: that's so important for him. So think about it, Mike

2261
01:44:04,000 --> 01:44:08,640
Speaker 1: Webster back in the day, Dermani Dawson and then Marquise

2262
01:44:09,000 --> 01:44:12,240
Speaker 1: Pouncy and now it's the lineage. And there is something

2263
01:44:12,280 --> 01:44:15,760
Speaker 1: about the Steelers that they have a history of these

2264
01:44:15,880 --> 01:44:19,080
Speaker 1: edge rushers and certainly their defense, and they have these

2265
01:44:19,200 --> 01:44:22,919
Speaker 1: centers and they have an identity. And I was speaking

2266
01:44:23,400 --> 01:44:27,240
Speaker 1: with someone this week who is trying to pick what

2267
01:44:27,520 --> 01:44:31,360
Speaker 1: team that they should root for as a like a

2268
01:44:31,439 --> 01:44:34,160
Speaker 1: British person who's learning about the NFL, and they were

2269
01:44:34,240 --> 01:44:36,160
Speaker 1: kind of honing in on the Steelers, and I said,

2270
01:44:36,800 --> 01:44:39,400
Speaker 1: that's a great choice. And it was because of stuff

2271
01:44:39,479 --> 01:44:42,400
Speaker 1: like this, like that they actually have an identity that

2272
01:44:42,479 --> 01:44:44,599
Speaker 1: when you think of the NFL, you think of the Steelers.

2273
01:44:44,840 --> 01:44:47,120
Speaker 1: There's the lineage all the way back to the nineteen

2274
01:44:47,200 --> 01:44:49,920
Speaker 1: twenties when they got that team by having a good

2275
01:44:50,000 --> 01:44:52,599
Speaker 1: day at the horse track. And it's still the same

2276
01:44:52,720 --> 01:44:55,160
Speaker 1: family one hundred years later. And so that's when I

2277
01:44:55,200 --> 01:44:57,400
Speaker 1: say I like that the Steelers are part of this season.

2278
01:44:57,439 --> 01:44:59,120
Speaker 1: It's because of all of that stuff.

2279
01:44:59,280 --> 01:45:01,840
Speaker 3: It's given me salute life that we are doing a

2280
01:45:02,160 --> 01:45:06,840
Speaker 3: breakdown of the Steelers' center history four five in the morning,

2281
01:45:07,040 --> 01:45:10,120
Speaker 3: and that I love Olly Connley more than maybe any

2282
01:45:10,200 --> 01:45:12,680
Speaker 3: member of his family. I could listen to him talk

2283
01:45:12,720 --> 01:45:15,320
Speaker 3: about football all day long. I still will not get

2284
01:45:15,360 --> 01:45:17,439
Speaker 3: behind the idea that a center is gonna win Rookie

2285
01:45:17,479 --> 01:45:18,960
Speaker 3: of the Year, no matter how good.

2286
01:45:18,960 --> 01:45:21,040
Speaker 4: His boat, though, that's why you've got to have some

2287
01:45:21,200 --> 01:45:22,200
Speaker 4: boats of other people.

2288
01:45:22,680 --> 01:45:24,840
Speaker 8: I know he's not going to win. I'm saying talent

2289
01:45:24,960 --> 01:45:27,320
Speaker 8: for talent, play play. He has been as good as

2290
01:45:27,439 --> 01:45:30,040
Speaker 8: Jayden Daniels at his job. Jayden's is more valuable and

2291
01:45:30,240 --> 01:45:32,320
Speaker 8: slightly more impressive because he's a quarterback, but being a

2292
01:45:32,360 --> 01:45:34,400
Speaker 8: center is not. He's just seven on day one and

2293
01:45:34,520 --> 01:45:36,479
Speaker 8: he's been just so good. I will just say quickly,

2294
01:45:36,600 --> 01:45:40,120
Speaker 8: you mentioned TJ Watt before doing this without Herbig and Highsmith.

2295
01:45:40,400 --> 01:45:42,439
Speaker 8: When those three are all together, they don't use her

2296
01:45:42,439 --> 01:45:44,360
Speaker 8: Big as much as they probably should do. That is

2297
01:45:44,400 --> 01:45:46,000
Speaker 8: as good a front as we have in the league.

2298
01:45:46,000 --> 01:45:48,280
Speaker 8: So for them to continue to play at this level

2299
01:45:49,200 --> 01:45:50,800
Speaker 8: with those two guys being out for a couple of

2300
01:45:50,800 --> 01:45:51,639
Speaker 8: weeks is really importsive.

2301
01:45:51,720 --> 01:45:53,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we got the news from the Raiders before

2302
01:45:53,560 --> 01:45:56,639
Speaker 1: the game, like, hey, we might not actually trade Davante Adams,

2303
01:45:56,680 --> 01:46:00,519
Speaker 1: which translates to, hey, we're not getting any good trade

2304
01:46:00,560 --> 01:46:03,599
Speaker 1: offers for Devontae Adams. I do believe that they're willing

2305
01:46:03,720 --> 01:46:07,000
Speaker 1: to hold on to him until the trade deadline, and

2306
01:46:07,120 --> 01:46:10,000
Speaker 1: that's maybe what this is signaling. That he could be

2307
01:46:10,080 --> 01:46:12,439
Speaker 1: on ice or he might even be back on the

2308
01:46:12,479 --> 01:46:14,960
Speaker 1: field and show that he's healthy in the meantime. The

2309
01:46:15,040 --> 01:46:16,760
Speaker 1: trade deadline still a few weeks a week. I do

2310
01:46:16,840 --> 01:46:20,320
Speaker 1: not believe he'll be on the team after that. And yeah,

2311
01:46:20,479 --> 01:46:22,519
Speaker 1: Raiders fans, like, if you want us to talk more

2312
01:46:22,520 --> 01:46:26,439
Speaker 1: about your team, do more Rock Bowers. That's all we

2313
01:46:26,560 --> 01:46:30,000
Speaker 1: have for you, Like alex and Alexander Madison is your

2314
01:46:30,080 --> 01:46:33,479
Speaker 1: leading rusher with thirty three yards and eight. O'Connell's back

2315
01:46:33,560 --> 01:46:35,760
Speaker 1: in the starter. But it doesn't really make much of

2316
01:46:35,800 --> 01:46:36,599
Speaker 1: a difference here.

2317
01:46:36,840 --> 01:46:38,679
Speaker 5: No, it doesn't. Like you said, I think Brock Bowers

2318
01:46:38,760 --> 01:46:41,680
Speaker 5: is probably the most exciting player that they have going on,

2319
01:46:42,200 --> 01:46:44,800
Speaker 5: you know, kind of getting my vote for Rookie of

2320
01:46:44,880 --> 01:46:47,800
Speaker 5: the Year essentially from a tight ends perspective, I mean,

2321
01:46:47,840 --> 01:46:50,200
Speaker 5: I think he's been phenomenal what he's able to do

2322
01:46:50,360 --> 01:46:53,840
Speaker 5: and how he's he's kind of transforming what tight ends

2323
01:46:53,880 --> 01:46:54,760
Speaker 5: are doing out there.

2324
01:46:55,400 --> 01:46:58,000
Speaker 4: But nine for seventy one today, nice game.

2325
01:46:58,240 --> 01:47:01,000
Speaker 5: It's a nice game. Nice game for the young man.

2326
01:47:01,400 --> 01:47:04,439
Speaker 3: There was this idea that he was a level of

2327
01:47:04,560 --> 01:47:07,519
Speaker 3: talent coming out that should be And listen, we're giving

2328
01:47:07,560 --> 01:47:09,720
Speaker 3: Raiders fans their flowers by giving them some love with this.

2329
01:47:10,160 --> 01:47:14,360
Speaker 3: They climb into the league as a guy who should

2330
01:47:14,400 --> 01:47:16,640
Speaker 3: be the best prospect of the position, but landed at

2331
01:47:16,680 --> 01:47:19,040
Speaker 3: maybe the worst landing spot possibly for him because of

2332
01:47:19,080 --> 01:47:21,439
Speaker 3: the quarterback play, because they traded drafted a tight end

2333
01:47:21,560 --> 01:47:23,479
Speaker 3: high last year and he's just blown all that out

2334
01:47:23,479 --> 01:47:25,720
Speaker 3: of the war and been absolutely brilliant. Yeah, and there

2335
01:47:25,760 --> 01:47:27,880
Speaker 3: we go, Raiders fans. We were positive about your team.

2336
01:47:28,920 --> 01:47:30,200
Speaker 4: They're not done at two and four.

2337
01:47:30,320 --> 01:47:33,840
Speaker 1: But whenever a team falls two games under five hundred,

2338
01:47:34,120 --> 01:47:36,400
Speaker 1: that's when it starts to feel closer. I've just seen

2339
01:47:36,479 --> 01:47:38,680
Speaker 1: too many teams bounce back after that. But this team

2340
01:47:38,720 --> 01:47:40,760
Speaker 1: does not have the bones of a team that you

2341
01:47:40,800 --> 01:47:43,919
Speaker 1: would expect. Meanwhile, Max Crosby's out there getting eight pressures

2342
01:47:44,000 --> 01:47:47,000
Speaker 1: and two stuffed runs on half an ankle, and so

2343
01:47:47,320 --> 01:47:49,800
Speaker 1: he's still being Max Crosby. But at two and four,

2344
01:47:50,160 --> 01:47:53,519
Speaker 1: they had higher expectations in the building. Outside of the buildings,

2345
01:47:53,760 --> 01:47:56,519
Speaker 1: there really weren't that many high expectations. All Right, we're

2346
01:47:56,560 --> 01:47:58,320
Speaker 1: going to take a break. We'll be back in a second.

2347
01:48:07,760 --> 01:48:12,879
Speaker 4: So a third and two from the four, Herbert to Dobbins.

2348
01:48:12,920 --> 01:48:17,280
Speaker 15: Dobbins bounces off a defender, reaches the ball out touchdown.

2349
01:48:17,680 --> 01:48:18,040
Speaker 3: JK.

2350
01:48:18,280 --> 01:48:26,519
Speaker 15: Dobbins, with the extra effort to reach out, punches it

2351
01:48:26,600 --> 01:48:30,640
Speaker 15: into the end zone for his third rushing score of

2352
01:48:30,720 --> 01:48:31,160
Speaker 15: the season.

2353
01:48:32,479 --> 01:48:35,679
Speaker 4: That was Matt money Smith. He knows what he's doing.

2354
01:48:36,160 --> 01:48:39,360
Speaker 4: He's not letting Daniel Deremia get a word in edgeways so.

2355
01:48:39,400 --> 01:48:42,400
Speaker 1: That he can get onto his favorite podcast, the podcast

2356
01:48:42,680 --> 01:48:48,120
Speaker 1: he actually listens to. Twenty three to sixteen. Chargers win

2357
01:48:48,240 --> 01:48:52,160
Speaker 1: this game in Denver. They race out to a twenty

2358
01:48:52,280 --> 01:48:56,880
Speaker 1: three to nothing leading. I'm feeling like I'm feeling a

2359
01:48:56,920 --> 01:48:59,120
Speaker 1: little something this Chargers team, Phoebe.

2360
01:48:59,320 --> 01:48:59,720
Speaker 4: It makes me.

2361
01:49:00,160 --> 01:49:02,720
Speaker 1: It makes me feel things that like we need an

2362
01:49:02,920 --> 01:49:07,320
Speaker 1: interesting sixth or seventh seed option in the combination of

2363
01:49:07,439 --> 01:49:09,720
Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh and Justin Herbert is enough for me to

2364
01:49:09,800 --> 01:49:13,559
Speaker 1: be interesting interested in this team, even if their style

2365
01:49:13,600 --> 01:49:15,880
Speaker 1: of play is a little blah. This game was weird,

2366
01:49:15,920 --> 01:49:18,200
Speaker 1: a lot of injuries early for the Chargers, and that

2367
01:49:18,360 --> 01:49:21,280
Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh leaves the game and is treated in the

2368
01:49:21,360 --> 01:49:24,920
Speaker 1: medical tent. John Harbaugh, his brother, actually left his press

2369
01:49:24,960 --> 01:49:28,640
Speaker 1: conference concerned about Jim. But then he's back on the sideline.

2370
01:49:28,720 --> 01:49:32,120
Speaker 1: So that's good to hear. And Yeah, a big division

2371
01:49:32,160 --> 01:49:33,080
Speaker 1: win on the road.

2372
01:49:33,600 --> 01:49:36,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's look, I love what Harba has done

2373
01:49:36,880 --> 01:49:39,640
Speaker 5: with Justin Herbert. This is really what he's needed for

2374
01:49:39,760 --> 01:49:43,519
Speaker 5: so long. I mean, we've been criticizing Herbert over the

2375
01:49:43,640 --> 01:49:46,160
Speaker 5: years for not being able to kind of open up

2376
01:49:46,240 --> 01:49:49,599
Speaker 5: his arsenal essentially, but you bring Harbaugh and he starts

2377
01:49:49,600 --> 01:49:51,840
Speaker 5: to change the culture in the building. He's doing a

2378
01:49:51,920 --> 01:49:54,799
Speaker 5: really nice job. I love to see that. Lad McConkey

2379
01:49:54,880 --> 01:49:57,200
Speaker 5: has been like the dude for them the past couple

2380
01:49:57,280 --> 01:49:59,679
Speaker 5: of weeks. I think he's done a really nice job.

2381
01:50:00,240 --> 01:50:00,880
Speaker 5: Laughing already.

2382
01:50:01,080 --> 01:50:02,920
Speaker 4: No, that's an ALI guy, right, Yeah.

2383
01:50:03,000 --> 01:50:04,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a full face bumb And what I

2384
01:50:04,880 --> 01:50:07,200
Speaker 3: love from Lad McConkie today as well was there was

2385
01:50:07,439 --> 01:50:10,840
Speaker 3: real frustration from himself when players weren't going his way,

2386
01:50:11,160 --> 01:50:14,120
Speaker 3: like he was getting legitimately angry, and then when things

2387
01:50:14,160 --> 01:50:16,080
Speaker 3: started to work out, geared up quite a bit. But

2388
01:50:16,160 --> 01:50:18,960
Speaker 3: I was just like, he is proper He properly cares

2389
01:50:19,000 --> 01:50:21,519
Speaker 3: about this team being successful. I really really enjoy it.

2390
01:50:21,600 --> 01:50:23,960
Speaker 1: It's such a weird dynamic with this team because Herbert's

2391
01:50:24,200 --> 01:50:28,400
Speaker 1: numbers are awful this year, and the offenses it's figuring

2392
01:50:28,520 --> 01:50:30,200
Speaker 1: things out, I guess to put it nicely, and this

2393
01:50:30,360 --> 01:50:32,920
Speaker 1: was a good step forward, and yet it I agree

2394
01:50:32,960 --> 01:50:35,800
Speaker 1: with Phoebe that it still just feels like it's it

2395
01:50:36,200 --> 01:50:38,040
Speaker 1: has a stronger foundation.

2396
01:50:37,840 --> 01:50:38,560
Speaker 4: To build off of.

2397
01:50:38,880 --> 01:50:40,519
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's the perfect way to put it. Think they

2398
01:50:40,600 --> 01:50:43,280
Speaker 8: feel like a professional team who wins games. They're supposed

2399
01:50:43,280 --> 01:50:45,479
Speaker 8: to win, and when you go play by play, you go,

2400
01:50:45,800 --> 01:50:48,160
Speaker 8: everyone's doing their job, Well, why is the ball not moving?

2401
01:50:48,439 --> 01:50:50,760
Speaker 8: And it just hurts my brain slightly when they do that.

2402
01:50:51,080 --> 01:50:53,120
Speaker 8: You know, they came out in this game the first

2403
01:50:53,160 --> 01:50:55,320
Speaker 8: time really they've tried to open up early. They've done

2404
01:50:55,320 --> 01:50:57,000
Speaker 8: the classic Jim Harbor think we're going to run the ball,

2405
01:50:57,080 --> 01:50:59,080
Speaker 8: run the ball, will take some shots. In this game,

2406
01:50:59,160 --> 01:51:01,000
Speaker 8: they open up first ten players, they throw the ball

2407
01:51:01,080 --> 01:51:03,559
Speaker 8: ten times. You can see Justin Herbert, which I absolutely

2408
01:51:03,600 --> 01:51:06,000
Speaker 8: ador from quarterback being like, I have three plays and

2409
01:51:06,120 --> 01:51:07,960
Speaker 8: corn the one where I to throw the ball first

2410
01:51:08,479 --> 01:51:10,320
Speaker 8: nine of the first ten times. Then gets a little

2411
01:51:10,320 --> 01:51:11,840
Speaker 8: bit of a telling off. But they've got a big

2412
01:51:11,920 --> 01:51:13,360
Speaker 8: lead and they start running the ball.

2413
01:51:13,600 --> 01:51:14,320
Speaker 4: It goes nowhere.

2414
01:51:14,320 --> 01:51:16,720
Speaker 8: And then to close the game they return to saying, okay,

2415
01:51:16,880 --> 01:51:19,240
Speaker 8: Justin Tran gets over the line and we'll we'll drive

2416
01:51:19,320 --> 01:51:21,120
Speaker 8: down the field and turn out yards that way. So

2417
01:51:21,439 --> 01:51:23,280
Speaker 8: when they let him throw the ball early, I think

2418
01:51:23,280 --> 01:51:25,320
Speaker 8: they've got a better chance. And when they're trying to

2419
01:51:25,360 --> 01:51:26,240
Speaker 8: slam away with the run.

2420
01:51:26,880 --> 01:51:30,240
Speaker 3: Jesse Mentor's unit on the other side really impressive today

2421
01:51:30,400 --> 01:51:33,120
Speaker 3: until that kind of fourth quarter. Was it garbage time

2422
01:51:33,360 --> 01:51:35,400
Speaker 3: was that. Did the Broncos figure it out? Difficult to

2423
01:51:35,479 --> 01:51:38,479
Speaker 3: kind of tell, but twenty five quarterback pressures today, Khalil

2424
01:51:38,560 --> 01:51:41,439
Speaker 3: Mack with six of those, and that's without Joey Bosa,

2425
01:51:41,479 --> 01:51:44,160
Speaker 3: who should return to this lineup at some point. So

2426
01:51:44,800 --> 01:51:46,840
Speaker 3: really impressive on that side of the ball. And actually,

2427
01:51:47,000 --> 01:51:49,439
Speaker 3: like you mentioned, Jim Harbor going out of this game

2428
01:51:49,520 --> 01:51:52,920
Speaker 3: with his ar trill flutter apparently had one in San

2429
01:51:52,960 --> 01:51:57,120
Speaker 3: Francisco as well. They never kind of came out like

2430
01:51:57,320 --> 01:52:00,800
Speaker 3: slightly concerning that. But actually when he went out of

2431
01:52:00,840 --> 01:52:03,560
Speaker 3: the game, Jesse Minter took over as the kind of

2432
01:52:03,720 --> 01:52:06,120
Speaker 3: assistant head coach role, but Greg Roman was left to

2433
01:52:06,200 --> 01:52:08,280
Speaker 3: call the plays on his own, and they had a

2434
01:52:08,439 --> 01:52:11,240
Speaker 3: fourth and goal at the half yard line and decided

2435
01:52:11,240 --> 01:52:14,000
Speaker 3: to kick a field goal from there, when I'm convinced

2436
01:52:14,040 --> 01:52:15,720
Speaker 3: that Jim Harbor in the game would have told them, no,

2437
01:52:15,800 --> 01:52:18,200
Speaker 3: we're absolutely going for that, at which point it would

2438
01:52:18,200 --> 01:52:22,360
Speaker 3: have been twenty four nothing at that point and there

2439
01:52:22,360 --> 01:52:24,599
Speaker 3: would have been no concern about a second half comeback.

2440
01:52:25,600 --> 01:52:27,439
Speaker 3: Bizarre decision from Greg Roman, But.

2441
01:52:28,080 --> 01:52:30,160
Speaker 4: I love your killing Greg Roman at this point.

2442
01:52:30,720 --> 01:52:33,080
Speaker 3: Kill Greg Roman all day long, every day.

2443
01:52:33,200 --> 01:52:36,240
Speaker 1: In his defense, Jim Harbor I believe went for his

2444
01:52:36,479 --> 01:52:39,920
Speaker 1: first fourth down of the year late in their last game,

2445
01:52:40,000 --> 01:52:42,840
Speaker 1: so they have gone for it less than any other team.

2446
01:52:43,280 --> 01:52:46,000
Speaker 1: Although the half yard line, Yeah, that's too much.

2447
01:52:46,120 --> 01:52:46,320
Speaker 4: JK.

2448
01:52:46,479 --> 01:52:48,920
Speaker 1: Dobbins. I think it's big for them. They need to

2449
01:52:48,960 --> 01:52:52,040
Speaker 1: be able to run the ball to be the team

2450
01:52:52,080 --> 01:52:54,639
Speaker 1: they want to be. First couple of weeks he pops

2451
01:52:54,680 --> 01:52:56,800
Speaker 1: off a couple of big runs after that, really not much.

2452
01:52:56,880 --> 01:52:59,639
Speaker 1: Today was a little more consistent out of him, twenty

2453
01:52:59,720 --> 01:53:03,080
Speaker 1: five for ninety six and then offensively. Yeah, you get

2454
01:53:03,120 --> 01:53:06,479
Speaker 1: your boy Mconki involved, but it's gonna just have to

2455
01:53:06,560 --> 01:53:09,679
Speaker 1: be different guys kind of popping up, not even with games,

2456
01:53:09,720 --> 01:53:13,560
Speaker 1: but with plays like Semi Fioco had a play in

2457
01:53:13,640 --> 01:53:16,920
Speaker 1: this game, and Kamani Vadal had to play in this game,

2458
01:53:17,160 --> 01:53:20,880
Speaker 1: and Josh Palmer, who has quite been quiet this year,

2459
01:53:20,960 --> 01:53:22,639
Speaker 1: surprisingly like had to play in this game.

2460
01:53:22,960 --> 01:53:24,640
Speaker 4: And that's what they're gonna need to do. And they

2461
01:53:24,680 --> 01:53:26,840
Speaker 4: did it against a defense that's been giving teams a

2462
01:53:27,000 --> 01:53:30,000
Speaker 4: lot of trouble and they showed one way to possibly

2463
01:53:30,120 --> 01:53:32,400
Speaker 4: beat them. The Broncos have to be disappointed.

2464
01:53:32,479 --> 01:53:34,679
Speaker 1: Sean Payton, like I said, going into that Saints game

2465
01:53:35,840 --> 01:53:37,519
Speaker 1: on a little bit of a role coming into this

2466
01:53:37,680 --> 01:53:40,479
Speaker 1: one and really to be humbled down twenty three to nothing,

2467
01:53:40,520 --> 01:53:43,799
Speaker 1: you more disappointed. Ali, I know you watch this game closely,

2468
01:53:44,320 --> 01:53:46,839
Speaker 1: the defense or the offense for the Broncos.

2469
01:53:47,000 --> 01:53:49,240
Speaker 8: The offense still for me, it just does not look

2470
01:53:49,320 --> 01:53:51,920
Speaker 8: functional for such long stretch of the game. It really

2471
01:53:52,000 --> 01:53:54,559
Speaker 8: only gets going when they're able to crank things up,

2472
01:53:54,680 --> 01:53:57,599
Speaker 8: move with some pace, slim things down a little bit,

2473
01:53:58,000 --> 01:54:01,080
Speaker 8: go no huddle when they're trying to run the true

2474
01:54:01,160 --> 01:54:04,120
Speaker 8: classic Sean Peyton offense. There's just so many issues all

2475
01:54:04,160 --> 01:54:06,800
Speaker 8: across the ball. Protections bad, boon Nicks is bad. They

2476
01:54:06,840 --> 01:54:09,200
Speaker 8: get out the huddle sole ly. They all panic. The

2477
01:54:09,280 --> 01:54:10,880
Speaker 8: first player of the game, he throws an exception the

2478
01:54:10,920 --> 01:54:12,519
Speaker 8: first play of the game, and they get to the

2479
01:54:12,560 --> 01:54:14,280
Speaker 8: play clock with two seconds left. Which is a guy

2480
01:54:14,280 --> 01:54:16,080
Speaker 8: who does not know if he's ready or not, doesn't

2481
01:54:16,080 --> 01:54:18,680
Speaker 8: know everything set properly the way he wants it to be,

2482
01:54:19,000 --> 01:54:21,880
Speaker 8: drops back, Panics throws a pig That happens to them

2483
01:54:22,200 --> 01:54:24,840
Speaker 8: five six times a game. And we're not early in

2484
01:54:24,920 --> 01:54:27,800
Speaker 8: the season so much anymore, where you should be either saying,

2485
01:54:28,040 --> 01:54:30,040
Speaker 8: let's slice some of this stuff off. He's not ready,

2486
01:54:30,560 --> 01:54:32,600
Speaker 8: or he should be figuring it out. And they've had

2487
01:54:32,640 --> 01:54:35,480
Speaker 8: weeks where they have completely stripped the playbook back, let

2488
01:54:35,600 --> 01:54:37,560
Speaker 8: him just play the screen game and then create game.

2489
01:54:37,760 --> 01:54:39,840
Speaker 8: They've had some success doing that. This was the first

2490
01:54:39,880 --> 01:54:42,480
Speaker 8: time they tried to say, Okay, let's ramp things back up.

2491
01:54:42,520 --> 01:54:44,640
Speaker 8: I'm going back home and next week out really like

2492
01:54:44,680 --> 01:54:46,360
Speaker 8: to run my offense and try and beat Dennis doing

2493
01:54:46,400 --> 01:54:49,120
Speaker 8: it that way, and when trying it, it was not

2494
01:54:49,200 --> 01:54:49,920
Speaker 8: a success again.

2495
01:54:50,280 --> 01:54:53,240
Speaker 3: And we talked Caleb Williams scrambled today and he made

2496
01:54:53,280 --> 01:54:55,840
Speaker 3: smart decisions and he ended up with what fifty six

2497
01:54:55,960 --> 01:54:58,320
Speaker 3: yards on the ground. Bonix ended up leading this team

2498
01:54:58,360 --> 01:55:01,240
Speaker 3: in rushing today and almost all of those scram will

2499
01:55:01,320 --> 01:55:04,000
Speaker 3: look like just pure panic and actually something opened up

2500
01:55:04,040 --> 01:55:05,160
Speaker 3: for him and he managed to.

2501
01:55:05,240 --> 01:55:09,440
Speaker 1: Although that's that's been all year and it's been quite effective.

2502
01:55:09,480 --> 01:55:12,480
Speaker 1: It's the best part of his game, like rushing value

2503
01:55:12,560 --> 01:55:15,560
Speaker 1: by QBR and everything. He's one of the better quarterbacks

2504
01:55:15,560 --> 01:55:17,000
Speaker 1: in the league for that. I'm with you, though it

2505
01:55:17,160 --> 01:55:19,680
Speaker 1: seems like there's no plan to it, and it often

2506
01:55:19,760 --> 01:55:23,680
Speaker 1: happens when they're trailing, but at least he makes that works.

2507
01:55:23,760 --> 01:55:25,840
Speaker 8: Yeah, why would you not just lean into that being

2508
01:55:25,920 --> 01:55:28,960
Speaker 8: the offense be the most up tempo RPO offense in

2509
01:55:29,000 --> 01:55:31,480
Speaker 8: the NFL. Try and move into twenty twenty four. Go

2510
01:55:31,600 --> 01:55:34,080
Speaker 8: and see what Washington is doing with Jaden Daniels. This

2511
01:55:34,200 --> 01:55:36,120
Speaker 8: is where he's being effective. Let's lean into this for

2512
01:55:36,200 --> 01:55:38,680
Speaker 8: four or five weeks. When he's more comfortable with the

2513
01:55:38,720 --> 01:55:40,560
Speaker 8: other things, then we can go back to that. So

2514
01:55:40,720 --> 01:55:43,880
Speaker 8: that is proper coaching. Just running your offense when the

2515
01:55:43,920 --> 01:55:45,720
Speaker 8: guy doesn't get it, that's not coaching.

2516
01:55:46,160 --> 01:55:47,920
Speaker 5: But I think there's a bit of ego that's just

2517
01:55:48,040 --> 01:55:54,520
Speaker 5: in there with Sean Payton. Imagine would you imagine? But genuinely,

2518
01:55:54,680 --> 01:55:57,600
Speaker 5: I mean, look, he's saying that this is my quarterback,

2519
01:55:57,680 --> 01:56:00,640
Speaker 5: this is my guy, We're gonna win my way, and

2520
01:56:01,280 --> 01:56:03,040
Speaker 5: I don't think he's in a position where he wants

2521
01:56:03,080 --> 01:56:05,200
Speaker 5: to step back and be like, ooh, maybe this wasn't

2522
01:56:05,240 --> 01:56:07,440
Speaker 5: the right scheme here, Maybe this wasn't the right move.

2523
01:56:07,520 --> 01:56:09,640
Speaker 5: Maybe we shouldn't have put bo Nicks in these situations.

2524
01:56:09,680 --> 01:56:12,320
Speaker 5: And then ultimately it's probably quite frustrating when you look

2525
01:56:12,320 --> 01:56:14,800
Speaker 5: at the score line and you think you have two turnovers,

2526
01:56:14,880 --> 01:56:16,960
Speaker 5: you actually might have even won that even with the

2527
01:56:17,080 --> 01:56:19,200
Speaker 5: poor display of football that was out there.

2528
01:56:19,720 --> 01:56:23,480
Speaker 4: So that's the Chargers winning record three and two in

2529
01:56:23,600 --> 01:56:23,960
Speaker 4: the mix.

2530
01:56:25,280 --> 01:56:27,840
Speaker 1: I think there's just a spot here for whoever's second

2531
01:56:27,920 --> 01:56:30,040
Speaker 1: in the AFC West to make the playoffs because their

2532
01:56:30,080 --> 01:56:32,880
Speaker 1: schedules are very easy, and so this game to me

2533
01:56:33,040 --> 01:56:35,000
Speaker 1: is a big one because these are the two candidates

2534
01:56:35,080 --> 01:56:37,080
Speaker 1: to b second in the AFC West and you get

2535
01:56:37,120 --> 01:56:38,600
Speaker 1: a win on the road in the division. Not a

2536
01:56:38,680 --> 01:56:41,520
Speaker 1: flashy game, but I think an important one for the Chargers.

2537
01:56:41,720 --> 01:56:47,160
Speaker 1: This was an important week for myself for NFL Daily.

2538
01:56:47,480 --> 01:56:52,120
Speaker 1: It is always a huge treat to come over to London.

2539
01:56:52,960 --> 01:56:55,960
Speaker 1: It's always one of my favorite weeks of the whole year.

2540
01:56:56,160 --> 01:57:00,200
Speaker 1: Today like Sunday game Day, that's probably, you know, my

2541
01:57:00,320 --> 01:57:01,879
Speaker 1: favorite work day of the whole.

2542
01:57:02,240 --> 01:57:02,840
Speaker 4: Year, and.

2543
01:57:04,520 --> 01:57:05,240
Speaker 3: Made it so long.

2544
01:57:06,440 --> 01:57:08,400
Speaker 4: It's true, I just don't want it to end. That

2545
01:57:08,600 --> 01:57:11,160
Speaker 4: now I'm gonna like honk for a while more.

2546
01:57:11,440 --> 01:57:13,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm getting emotional listening.

2547
01:57:12,840 --> 01:57:17,160
Speaker 1: To talking about it. It's different this year too, like

2548
01:57:17,280 --> 01:57:20,240
Speaker 1: I'm not here with Dan and Mark. I feel their

2549
01:57:20,280 --> 01:57:25,360
Speaker 1: absence more this week. I always feel Chris's absence this

2550
01:57:25,560 --> 01:57:29,880
Speaker 1: week going to hot Tottenham Hotspur where they remembered him

2551
01:57:30,080 --> 01:57:32,520
Speaker 1: and we lived out our dreams and it was really special.

2552
01:57:32,560 --> 01:57:35,960
Speaker 1: But doing this show with you guys, like we could

2553
01:57:36,040 --> 01:57:39,440
Speaker 1: talk more. I love that we're breaking down bo Nix's

2554
01:57:39,680 --> 01:57:42,680
Speaker 1: like running ability at four in the morning, and you

2555
01:57:42,800 --> 01:57:47,320
Speaker 1: guys have such great energy and you love the game

2556
01:57:47,520 --> 01:57:51,720
Speaker 1: so much that this particular podcast was like a total

2557
01:57:51,800 --> 01:57:54,720
Speaker 1: treat and something that I'll remember. And thank you Will

2558
01:57:54,880 --> 01:57:59,000
Speaker 1: for providing us this studio and the energy, because if

2559
01:57:59,040 --> 01:58:01,760
Speaker 1: we were all in our hotel rooms right now, this

2560
01:58:01,880 --> 01:58:05,960
Speaker 1: show would be about three hundred percent worse. And adding

2561
01:58:06,000 --> 01:58:09,560
Speaker 1: your voice and your analysis, it was overdue. We need

2562
01:58:09,640 --> 01:58:12,720
Speaker 1: to have you on much much more. And also thank

2563
01:58:12,800 --> 01:58:15,600
Speaker 1: you to the will behind the glass, Will Will Varney.

2564
01:58:15,680 --> 01:58:18,200
Speaker 3: But thank you absolutely gushing. I cannot get over it.

2565
01:58:18,280 --> 01:58:22,160
Speaker 3: I'm a man who has the ego of champaignon now.

2566
01:58:22,840 --> 01:58:24,680
Speaker 3: I'm just going to be on a high all week long.

2567
01:58:24,800 --> 01:58:27,000
Speaker 1: Chase, Greg, That's why we thank you for having I've

2568
01:58:27,080 --> 01:58:29,160
Speaker 1: long tried to keep you in your place and not

2569
01:58:29,960 --> 01:58:31,800
Speaker 1: let you get too big, but this time I got

2570
01:58:31,960 --> 01:58:32,440
Speaker 1: to give it up.

2571
01:58:32,920 --> 01:58:34,960
Speaker 3: This is why the debut has come so late in

2572
01:58:35,040 --> 01:58:36,760
Speaker 3: the day. It's just like I could not let him

2573
01:58:36,760 --> 01:58:38,839
Speaker 3: on the podcast before now he just would have been insufferable.

2574
01:58:38,920 --> 01:58:41,400
Speaker 1: And we did have a wonderful lunch a couple of

2575
01:58:41,480 --> 01:58:44,640
Speaker 1: days after the Super Bowl at a Caribbean restaurant in

2576
01:58:44,920 --> 01:58:47,400
Speaker 1: Santa Monica. I think of that often when I'm driving

2577
01:58:47,480 --> 01:58:49,800
Speaker 1: past that place. I was like, this is where me

2578
01:58:50,040 --> 01:58:53,440
Speaker 1: and Will and his wife. A lot of people to

2579
01:58:53,520 --> 01:58:57,760
Speaker 1: think like la, I mean, London's crazy. I'm not trying

2580
01:58:57,800 --> 01:58:59,960
Speaker 1: to brag, but it's the only place in the world

2581
01:59:00,000 --> 01:59:03,800
Speaker 1: world that a cab driver could possibly recognize.

2582
01:59:03,240 --> 01:59:05,440
Speaker 4: Me, which is easy to me.

2583
01:59:05,640 --> 01:59:08,080
Speaker 1: And they have the little speakers and they just are you,

2584
01:59:08,320 --> 01:59:12,200
Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal And I'm just like, it's fall why can't

2585
01:59:12,240 --> 01:59:16,960
Speaker 1: you say th h? But yeah, he was a big

2586
01:59:17,480 --> 01:59:19,640
Speaker 1: NFL fan. He was a big around the NFL fan.

2587
01:59:19,880 --> 01:59:22,120
Speaker 1: He's a big he'd the call fan and he says

2588
01:59:22,200 --> 01:59:24,160
Speaker 1: he's a big NFL Daily fan. And it really didn't

2589
01:59:24,160 --> 01:59:25,960
Speaker 1: mean a lot to me. Today at the game, when

2590
01:59:26,000 --> 01:59:29,520
Speaker 1: we were outside on the riser, Olivia and I and

2591
01:59:29,680 --> 01:59:32,200
Speaker 1: so many different people came up because that was the

2592
01:59:32,280 --> 01:59:34,440
Speaker 1: time where it's our people, it's the people at the game,

2593
01:59:34,760 --> 01:59:38,440
Speaker 1: and so many fans came up and they said, hey,

2594
01:59:38,520 --> 01:59:40,960
Speaker 1: we love the around the NFL, but we really love

2595
01:59:41,000 --> 01:59:43,720
Speaker 1: what you're doing with NFL Daily too, and we love

2596
01:59:43,760 --> 01:59:45,320
Speaker 1: it all and we love seeing you here.

2597
01:59:45,520 --> 01:59:48,560
Speaker 4: And that was very cool. So thank you to everyone

2598
01:59:48,680 --> 01:59:49,080
Speaker 4: and did that.

2599
01:59:49,240 --> 01:59:51,040
Speaker 3: I do think the listener is going to be slightly annoyed.

2600
01:59:51,680 --> 01:59:53,160
Speaker 3: Right at the top of the show, we tease that

2601
01:59:53,160 --> 01:59:55,120
Speaker 3: you're going to tell us about getting a motorbike from

2602
01:59:55,160 --> 01:59:58,640
Speaker 3: So yeah, he still not told us about this magical

2603
01:59:58,720 --> 01:59:59,480
Speaker 3: motorbike ride.

2604
02:00:00,160 --> 02:00:07,400
Speaker 1: Yeah at Alex Jackson, jacko, producer at Sky Sports, called

2605
02:00:07,480 --> 02:00:11,880
Speaker 1: me yesterday evening and said, asked me, I'm not going

2606
02:00:11,960 --> 02:00:13,560
Speaker 1: to do the accident because because I know how to

2607
02:00:14,080 --> 02:00:16,400
Speaker 1: hate the accent, but that you know. He asked me

2608
02:00:16,480 --> 02:00:19,120
Speaker 1: if I would take a motorcycle from the game because

2609
02:00:19,160 --> 02:00:21,200
Speaker 1: I was going to be there doing hits through the

2610
02:00:21,320 --> 02:00:24,880
Speaker 1: end of the third quarter and he was hopeful he'd

2611
02:00:25,000 --> 02:00:26,840
Speaker 1: it'd be great to have you there for the start

2612
02:00:27,000 --> 02:00:30,640
Speaker 1: of the What here is the six pm games at home?

2613
02:00:30,920 --> 02:00:33,720
Speaker 1: It's the ten am games in LA And he's like,

2614
02:00:33,760 --> 02:00:34,920
Speaker 1: the only way I think we could do it is

2615
02:00:34,920 --> 02:00:36,000
Speaker 1: if it's on a motorcycle.

2616
02:00:36,080 --> 02:00:38,840
Speaker 4: And I was like, Oh, I don't have to drive it.

2617
02:00:39,040 --> 02:00:41,560
Speaker 4: Do that would be crazy?

2618
02:00:41,640 --> 02:00:41,680
Speaker 9: Like?

2619
02:00:41,960 --> 02:00:43,280
Speaker 4: And I did ask the question.

2620
02:00:43,400 --> 02:00:43,600
Speaker 3: That's me.

2621
02:00:43,640 --> 02:00:45,360
Speaker 4: I was like, do I have to be like holding

2622
02:00:45,520 --> 02:00:47,080
Speaker 4: the driver the whole time?

2623
02:00:47,160 --> 02:00:47,400
Speaker 7: That's it?

2624
02:00:47,520 --> 02:00:50,000
Speaker 4: He's like, no, there's handles. I said sure that that

2625
02:00:50,040 --> 02:00:50,880
Speaker 4: would be fun.

2626
02:00:50,960 --> 02:00:55,160
Speaker 1: So I felt very cool, very like I don't know,

2627
02:00:55,400 --> 02:00:58,640
Speaker 1: like superheroish, having to get to like the chase and

2628
02:00:59,000 --> 02:01:02,240
Speaker 1: we're in the motorcycle, first motorcycle ride i'd ever been on.

2629
02:01:02,400 --> 02:01:03,680
Speaker 4: Seemed like pretty normal at first.

2630
02:01:03,720 --> 02:01:05,160
Speaker 1: Then you get on the highway and you're like, okay,

2631
02:01:05,240 --> 02:01:08,160
Speaker 1: this thing is is moving if you look down and everything.

2632
02:01:08,320 --> 02:01:11,160
Speaker 1: But the scary part is definitely weaving through traffic, which

2633
02:01:11,200 --> 02:01:13,320
Speaker 1: is why they wanted us to take the motorcycle. There's

2634
02:01:13,680 --> 02:01:17,200
Speaker 1: London traffic's crazy, it's worse than La and yeah, he's

2635
02:01:17,400 --> 02:01:20,520
Speaker 1: he's weaving through that and we're like two inches on

2636
02:01:20,600 --> 02:01:22,720
Speaker 1: either side of me and people are giving us dirty

2637
02:01:22,760 --> 02:01:24,880
Speaker 1: looks and I'm afraid they're gonna like open their door.

2638
02:01:24,960 --> 02:01:27,880
Speaker 1: But yeah, we made it the wind, you know, flying

2639
02:01:28,160 --> 02:01:29,840
Speaker 1: not through my hair because there was a helmet on.

2640
02:01:29,960 --> 02:01:31,080
Speaker 1: But it was pretty bad ass.

2641
02:01:31,160 --> 02:01:31,720
Speaker 4: It was awesome.

2642
02:01:32,120 --> 02:01:32,320
Speaker 8: You know.

2643
02:01:32,480 --> 02:01:34,920
Speaker 3: Neil did the same thing last week as well, Neil

2644
02:01:34,960 --> 02:01:38,080
Speaker 3: Reynolds getting on a motorbike from Tottenham to sky It's

2645
02:01:38,240 --> 02:01:39,160
Speaker 3: just I can't even imagine.

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02:01:39,160 --> 02:01:41,320
Speaker 1: I don't know who looked like less of a bad ass.

2647
02:01:42,160 --> 02:01:44,360
Speaker 1: Because I did have them take a picture. I put

2648
02:01:44,400 --> 02:01:46,720
Speaker 1: it out on my Instagram story, I'll put it out there.

2649
02:01:46,760 --> 02:01:48,640
Speaker 1: And like, I was worried that I was gonna be

2650
02:01:48,680 --> 02:01:51,240
Speaker 1: really cold because I didn't have a heavy jacket or anything,

2651
02:01:51,280 --> 02:01:53,840
Speaker 1: and they they had it all ready for me. They're like, oh, yeah,

2652
02:01:53,880 --> 02:01:56,360
Speaker 1: we've got a huge heavy jacket for you in gloves,

2653
02:01:56,400 --> 02:01:58,920
Speaker 1: and I looked like a three year old, like it

2654
02:01:59,000 --> 02:02:00,400
Speaker 1: was made for a much bigger person.

2655
02:02:00,800 --> 02:02:03,160
Speaker 5: But I will say the difference between you and Neil

2656
02:02:03,720 --> 02:02:06,960
Speaker 5: is that we were literally counting down thirty seconds to

2657
02:02:07,080 --> 02:02:11,680
Speaker 5: going live and they are having you run onto the

2658
02:02:11,800 --> 02:02:14,680
Speaker 5: dance floor. You have no idea what's happening. We're like, hey,

2659
02:02:14,720 --> 02:02:17,480
Speaker 5: we're hitting this, this, this is and we're live. Neil,

2660
02:02:17,760 --> 02:02:20,040
Speaker 5: I love you, but you did not do that last weekend.

2661
02:02:20,400 --> 02:02:20,920
Speaker 4: This was Greg.

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02:02:21,120 --> 02:02:24,120
Speaker 1: That was the moment I got out of the of

2663
02:02:24,280 --> 02:02:26,720
Speaker 1: the motorcycle and I'm walking up to the building and

2664
02:02:26,800 --> 02:02:29,200
Speaker 1: then I see our producer Yell and he's like, why

2665
02:02:29,240 --> 02:02:32,280
Speaker 1: don't you run Greg worth Worth three minutes from error?

2666
02:02:32,280 --> 02:02:34,520
Speaker 1: And I'm like, is he being serious or is he

2667
02:02:34,720 --> 02:02:37,880
Speaker 1: like like being sarcastic like? And I was like okay,

2668
02:02:37,920 --> 02:02:40,840
Speaker 1: and I started running and yes, I got there about

2669
02:02:40,920 --> 02:02:43,640
Speaker 1: thirty seconds before it started, and it was really fun

2670
02:02:43,760 --> 02:02:47,760
Speaker 1: doing that show. Hannah Wilkes was just a beautiful host,

2671
02:02:47,960 --> 02:02:51,000
Speaker 1: and her first day back from having her lovely daughter,

2672
02:02:51,160 --> 02:02:53,360
Speaker 1: so that she had a hero performance too. I mean

2673
02:02:54,240 --> 02:02:57,680
Speaker 1: she's feeding her baby in between breaks, so that is

2674
02:02:58,120 --> 02:03:01,960
Speaker 1: pretty freaking amazing by Hannah. And it was so fun

2675
02:03:02,160 --> 02:03:05,000
Speaker 1: to work with everyone this week. I'll stop talking, but

2676
02:03:05,120 --> 02:03:08,600
Speaker 1: thank you also to the NFL for sending me out there,

2677
02:03:08,600 --> 02:03:11,760
Speaker 1: and Matt Schneider and Jason Kleman and Eric Roberts back there,

2678
02:03:12,000 --> 02:03:14,920
Speaker 1: and Randy Chavez who who were helping us all out,

2679
02:03:15,040 --> 02:03:18,360
Speaker 1: Henry Hodson, who makes a big difference in all of

2680
02:03:18,440 --> 02:03:20,960
Speaker 1: our lives. I'm just gonna say it, just try by

2681
02:03:21,160 --> 02:03:24,280
Speaker 1: make growing the game. When I see this game out here, Ali,

2682
02:03:24,400 --> 02:03:27,600
Speaker 1: like you're a young man, isn't it a different game?

2683
02:03:28,160 --> 02:03:31,320
Speaker 4: And I hate to ask this question, but it's true.

2684
02:03:31,400 --> 02:03:34,080
Speaker 1: It's different than it was doing an NFL game than

2685
02:03:34,080 --> 02:03:36,960
Speaker 1: when they first started doing these games, and certainly like

2686
02:03:37,320 --> 02:03:41,040
Speaker 1: the last like even since Tottenham hotspurd Stadium's open, like

2687
02:03:41,120 --> 02:03:41,640
Speaker 1: it's different.

2688
02:03:41,800 --> 02:03:43,960
Speaker 8: Yeah, well, the atmosphere so much better at the Tottenham

2689
02:03:44,000 --> 02:03:46,240
Speaker 8: Stadium for one. The Wembley next week could be fun,

2690
02:03:46,480 --> 02:03:48,360
Speaker 8: I'd like you said at the top. I've never seen

2691
02:03:48,360 --> 02:03:50,920
Speaker 8: an atmosphere like that in London that we saw today,

2692
02:03:50,920 --> 02:03:53,560
Speaker 8: which was a true home crowd type vibe. There was

2693
02:03:53,680 --> 02:03:57,040
Speaker 8: not the fifty percent home twenty percent fun of another team,

2694
02:03:57,200 --> 02:03:58,720
Speaker 8: and then to spread around with all of the kind

2695
02:03:58,720 --> 02:04:00,720
Speaker 8: of Joseys. We still had some of that three that

2696
02:04:00,760 --> 02:04:02,840
Speaker 8: which is always film with. This was like a legitimate

2697
02:04:03,280 --> 02:04:04,400
Speaker 8: Baz home crowd.

2698
02:04:04,640 --> 02:04:06,880
Speaker 1: I love that I made you talk about the how

2699
02:04:06,960 --> 02:04:09,360
Speaker 1: the game has grown over here to close this show,

2700
02:04:09,400 --> 02:04:11,200
Speaker 1: the little I like the last.

2701
02:04:10,960 --> 02:04:13,120
Speaker 4: Thing that Ollie wants to talk about. I blew it.

2702
02:04:13,840 --> 02:04:15,760
Speaker 8: My brain is still hurting from the idea of having

2703
02:04:15,760 --> 02:04:17,640
Speaker 8: to dig a moator bike through in the middle of

2704
02:04:17,720 --> 02:04:19,640
Speaker 8: London to see a Mike McCarthy football team.

2705
02:04:19,680 --> 02:04:22,800
Speaker 1: It's like about yes to get there for the very

2706
02:04:22,920 --> 02:04:25,480
Speaker 1: first step to get there for like the little build up,

2707
02:04:25,560 --> 02:04:28,200
Speaker 1: it was a lot of fun. And I do not

2708
02:04:28,880 --> 02:04:31,360
Speaker 1: forget that we that we are lucky to do this

2709
02:04:31,560 --> 02:04:33,640
Speaker 1: and that there's nothing guaranteed. So if this was the

2710
02:04:33,720 --> 02:04:35,880
Speaker 1: last time they ever sent me to London, I feel

2711
02:04:35,920 --> 02:04:38,240
Speaker 1: like I made a count. And thank you to everyone

2712
02:04:38,400 --> 02:04:40,360
Speaker 1: who is listening, and I'll stop saying thank you. I

2713
02:04:40,480 --> 02:04:43,880
Speaker 1: apologize to anyone that I forgot to say thank you,

2714
02:04:44,120 --> 02:04:50,839
Speaker 1: yes for Will Gavin, Phoebe Schechter, Ollie Connolly, Will Varney

2715
02:04:51,640 --> 02:04:54,240
Speaker 1: behind the glass. When we are wrapping this thing up

2716
02:04:54,400 --> 02:04:58,800
Speaker 1: at four twenty two in the morning, you know football

2717
02:04:58,920 --> 02:05:01,120
Speaker 1: is back and it's time to send it to Nick

2718
02:05:01,200 --> 02:05:02,920
Speaker 1: Schuk to wrap us up.

2719
02:05:03,040 --> 02:05:06,760
Speaker 4: Here, take us home, Nick, Bengals and Giants.

2720
02:05:07,440 --> 02:05:10,160
Speaker 14: Third down and eighteen on the Bengals first drive of

2721
02:05:10,240 --> 02:05:10,560
Speaker 14: the game.

2722
02:05:11,120 --> 02:05:12,840
Speaker 3: Again the Bengals with an empty.

2723
02:05:12,640 --> 02:05:14,320
Speaker 4: Formation, shotgun snap.

2724
02:05:14,480 --> 02:05:17,720
Speaker 14: It's a five man rush. Burrow run for thirty five,

2725
02:05:18,560 --> 02:05:22,680
Speaker 14: twenty five, twenty fifteen, ten five times for the pie

2726
02:05:22,920 --> 02:05:30,720
Speaker 14: on touchdown, a forty seven yard touchdown run by Joe Burrow.

2727
02:05:31,320 --> 02:05:34,240
Speaker 9: I'll tell you you talked about a defense getting.

2728
02:05:34,040 --> 02:05:36,080
Speaker 4: Distorted to New York.

2729
02:05:36,000 --> 02:05:38,800
Speaker 10: Giants, gave up half a football field.

2730
02:05:38,720 --> 02:05:41,520
Speaker 3: Old baby score score. Yeah.

2731
02:05:42,720 --> 02:05:43,160
Speaker 4: Wealk to the.

2732
02:05:43,200 --> 02:05:46,400
Speaker 16: Sunday Night football recap Patrick Clavon here with Nick Shook

2733
02:05:46,440 --> 02:05:48,320
Speaker 16: as that essentially was it.

2734
02:05:48,560 --> 02:05:48,720
Speaker 9: Nick.

2735
02:05:48,840 --> 02:05:54,040
Speaker 16: Joe Burrow's long career long touchdown run almost held up

2736
02:05:54,280 --> 02:05:57,440
Speaker 16: as the score in this game as the Cincinnati Bengals

2737
02:05:57,680 --> 02:06:00,800
Speaker 16: knockoff the New York Giants at Bengals that was scoring

2738
02:06:01,320 --> 02:06:04,920
Speaker 16: a billion points seventeen to seven, but one was a

2739
02:06:05,000 --> 02:06:07,320
Speaker 16: touchdown that probably shouldn't have been late by Chase Brown.

2740
02:06:07,360 --> 02:06:10,760
Speaker 16: But yeah, just an odd game, but one that Cincinnati

2741
02:06:10,880 --> 02:06:12,320
Speaker 16: was able to come out on top of in the end.

2742
02:06:12,720 --> 02:06:15,120
Speaker 13: Yeah, and the Chase Brown touchdown a perfect example of

2743
02:06:15,240 --> 02:06:18,200
Speaker 13: broadcaster timing where they show a graphic that says the

2744
02:06:18,240 --> 02:06:20,120
Speaker 13: Bengals are like one in one thirty eight when they

2745
02:06:20,120 --> 02:06:23,480
Speaker 13: score ten points or less and they're winning ten to seven,

2746
02:06:23,520 --> 02:06:26,040
Speaker 13: and then the next play Chase Brown makes it seventeen

2747
02:06:26,080 --> 02:06:27,680
Speaker 13: to seven, and oh, you don't have to worry about

2748
02:06:27,720 --> 02:06:30,680
Speaker 13: that anymore. Yeah, this game lacked highlights when it comes

2749
02:06:30,720 --> 02:06:33,520
Speaker 13: to scoring plays, but didn't lack highlights overall. A bit

2750
02:06:33,600 --> 02:06:35,120
Speaker 13: of an ugly game, but I wouldn't call it a

2751
02:06:35,160 --> 02:06:37,560
Speaker 13: clunker or a snooze fest, but a defensive battle, if

2752
02:06:37,560 --> 02:06:39,880
Speaker 13: you will. We learned a lot about the Giants defense.

2753
02:06:40,160 --> 02:06:42,200
Speaker 13: We actually learned a lot about the Bengals defense, which

2754
02:06:42,200 --> 02:06:44,040
Speaker 13: has been a sieve upfront for most of the season.

2755
02:06:44,080 --> 02:06:46,040
Speaker 13: They got a little bit healthier up front. They did

2756
02:06:46,160 --> 02:06:49,200
Speaker 13: get run through pretty emphatically for one drive, but when

2757
02:06:49,240 --> 02:06:51,360
Speaker 13: it came down to making a play, they made the

2758
02:06:51,360 --> 02:06:54,360
Speaker 13: plays they needed to. They stopped Tyrone Tracy, they stopped

2759
02:06:54,360 --> 02:06:56,120
Speaker 13: the Giants offense, which didn't have a ton of life

2760
02:06:56,160 --> 02:06:58,120
Speaker 13: if it wasn't running the football, and they were able

2761
02:06:58,160 --> 02:07:00,320
Speaker 13: to hang on and leave the Metal Lands with a

2762
02:07:00,440 --> 02:07:01,680
Speaker 13: much needed victory.

2763
02:07:01,840 --> 02:07:04,919
Speaker 16: And the victory that was hard fought that came ultimately

2764
02:07:05,040 --> 02:07:08,680
Speaker 16: Nick on a fourth down stop. Where this was something

2765
02:07:08,720 --> 02:07:11,280
Speaker 16: that Brian day Ball was doing. It was almost consistent,

2766
02:07:11,760 --> 02:07:14,840
Speaker 16: pretty much in lockstep with the next Gen stats recommendation.

2767
02:07:14,880 --> 02:07:18,280
Speaker 16: I'm not sure if there's a particular sheet and situation

2768
02:07:18,560 --> 02:07:22,760
Speaker 16: that the Giants staff has, but these go situations, they

2769
02:07:22,840 --> 02:07:26,000
Speaker 16: were successful for the Giants for the most part, until

2770
02:07:26,160 --> 02:07:30,120
Speaker 16: they weren't. Ultimately at the end, when you saw, in

2771
02:07:30,280 --> 02:07:32,800
Speaker 16: similar fashion the two fourth downs that the Giants did

2772
02:07:32,880 --> 02:07:35,080
Speaker 16: not get in the second half, Mike Hilton was back

2773
02:07:35,120 --> 02:07:37,920
Speaker 16: there doing his I'm Mike Hilton, I'm a veteran pointing

2774
02:07:38,000 --> 02:07:41,560
Speaker 16: a direction almost kind of lebron esque on an inbounds

2775
02:07:41,600 --> 02:07:44,360
Speaker 16: play kind of guiding guys. He got the pass breakup.

2776
02:07:45,160 --> 02:07:47,520
Speaker 16: I think it was DJ Turner that got the ultimate

2777
02:07:47,560 --> 02:07:50,560
Speaker 16: one that kind of sealed the deal where the Giants

2778
02:07:50,640 --> 02:07:54,400
Speaker 16: were band aid and duct taping their way down the

2779
02:07:54,480 --> 02:07:58,320
Speaker 16: field and eventually, you know, with Greg Joseph missing kicks,

2780
02:07:58,680 --> 02:08:00,920
Speaker 16: it's tough to sustain an offense like that.

2781
02:08:01,160 --> 02:08:02,680
Speaker 13: Yeah, that's the key is the fact that they scored

2782
02:08:02,720 --> 02:08:04,760
Speaker 13: one touchdown all night, and you know, you missed two

2783
02:08:04,800 --> 02:08:07,120
Speaker 13: field goals and there goes your opportunity. But yeah, they

2784
02:08:07,160 --> 02:08:09,160
Speaker 13: go three for five on third down or on fourth down.

2785
02:08:09,160 --> 02:08:11,000
Speaker 13: It felt like they went for fourth down ten times.

2786
02:08:11,560 --> 02:08:13,600
Speaker 13: They were using all four downs, like that high school

2787
02:08:13,600 --> 02:08:16,480
Speaker 13: coach who refused to punt and made waves in the internet. Basically,

2788
02:08:16,520 --> 02:08:18,640
Speaker 13: the Giants became that team on Sunday night, and I

2789
02:08:18,680 --> 02:08:20,320
Speaker 13: think it was at a desperation. It was, look, hey,

2790
02:08:20,600 --> 02:08:22,160
Speaker 13: we know we're not only Merlin to get so many

2791
02:08:22,280 --> 02:08:24,680
Speaker 13: chances to move the football, and if it's fourth and short,

2792
02:08:24,800 --> 02:08:26,960
Speaker 13: I think it's anything inside of six as usually a go.

2793
02:08:27,600 --> 02:08:29,360
Speaker 13: I would envision a world in which they have the

2794
02:08:29,400 --> 02:08:31,200
Speaker 13: next gen stats about model up in the box and

2795
02:08:31,440 --> 02:08:34,000
Speaker 13: like radioing down like Bryan, next gen sys, go for it,

2796
02:08:34,080 --> 02:08:35,640
Speaker 13: go for it as if they don't have their own

2797
02:08:35,640 --> 02:08:39,560
Speaker 13: analytics department. But yeah, they went for it willingly and often,

2798
02:08:39,720 --> 02:08:41,640
Speaker 13: and most of the time they got it, but they

2799
02:08:41,640 --> 02:08:43,520
Speaker 13: didn't get the most important ones. And that's often the

2800
02:08:44,040 --> 02:08:46,240
Speaker 13: difference in a game like this, where the Bengals offense

2801
02:08:46,240 --> 02:08:47,800
Speaker 13: that had put up a ton of points, like you said,

2802
02:08:48,640 --> 02:08:51,320
Speaker 13: wasn't scoring and the game was within reach, and it's

2803
02:08:51,320 --> 02:08:52,880
Speaker 13: a Giants team that took.

2804
02:08:52,760 --> 02:08:53,320
Speaker 4: A step back.

2805
02:08:53,320 --> 02:08:53,880
Speaker 5: I guess, I don't know.

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02:08:53,880 --> 02:08:55,440
Speaker 13: I wouldn't even necessarily say that it was a rough

2807
02:08:55,520 --> 02:08:57,280
Speaker 13: night for them against the Bengals defense that played better.

2808
02:08:57,440 --> 02:08:58,800
Speaker 13: I mean, this is not the Giants team that we

2809
02:08:58,800 --> 02:09:01,240
Speaker 13: saw play the Seahawks a week that's for sure. But

2810
02:09:02,040 --> 02:09:04,160
Speaker 13: I mean sometimes it's about matchups, and they lost out tonight.

2811
02:09:04,640 --> 02:09:07,000
Speaker 16: Well, are the other matchup that you pointed out the

2812
02:09:07,120 --> 02:09:09,720
Speaker 16: last time we were doing a Prime Tom breakdown. I'm

2813
02:09:09,720 --> 02:09:14,280
Speaker 16: sitting here in my garage and I'm celebrating. I'm heaping

2814
02:09:14,760 --> 02:09:18,080
Speaker 16: Dimes with praise, like this is a top ten Dimes game.

2815
02:09:18,400 --> 02:09:21,080
Speaker 16: And you looked as you do, down into the screen

2816
02:09:21,080 --> 02:09:23,720
Speaker 16: and you're like, it was on the road Patrick, the

2817
02:09:23,800 --> 02:09:26,280
Speaker 16: home road spits for splits for Danny Dimes of not

2818
02:09:26,320 --> 02:09:29,240
Speaker 16: being kind, and here we are low and behold, Dimes

2819
02:09:29,320 --> 02:09:32,080
Speaker 16: is back at home and the offense can't do anything.

2820
02:09:32,440 --> 02:09:33,000
Speaker 16: What is it?

2821
02:09:33,400 --> 02:09:36,839
Speaker 3: Nick? Do you have a theory about Daniel Jones at MetLife?

2822
02:09:37,800 --> 02:09:39,160
Speaker 13: You know, I don't know. I mean, I've been to

2823
02:09:39,240 --> 02:09:40,880
Speaker 13: Met Life once, the lighting there is a little weird,

2824
02:09:40,920 --> 02:09:42,160
Speaker 13: but I don't think that has anything to do with it.

2825
02:09:42,200 --> 02:09:44,520
Speaker 13: It's just a little weird on the eyes. It's got

2826
02:09:44,560 --> 02:09:47,440
Speaker 13: a bit of an orange glow to it at times, honestly,

2827
02:09:47,600 --> 02:09:49,720
Speaker 13: like they didn't run the ball well until the third quarter,

2828
02:09:49,840 --> 02:09:51,760
Speaker 13: and they had a very strong third quarter, but their

2829
02:09:51,800 --> 02:09:54,640
Speaker 13: offense felt very unbalanced, and every time you saw him

2830
02:09:54,720 --> 02:09:56,000
Speaker 13: drop back to pass. In fact, I looked at the

2831
02:09:56,000 --> 02:09:57,520
Speaker 13: pressure numbers and they were way lower than I thought

2832
02:09:57,520 --> 02:09:59,600
Speaker 13: they'd be. The Bengals got fifteen total pressures at thirty

2833
02:09:59,600 --> 02:10:02,440
Speaker 13: three points three percent, exactly one third few math wizards,

2834
02:10:02,880 --> 02:10:05,800
Speaker 13: and it felt like he was constantly under duress. Are

2835
02:10:05,880 --> 02:10:07,920
Speaker 13: just slow, hesitant to make a decision. I think that

2836
02:10:07,960 --> 02:10:11,400
Speaker 13: speaks to coverage being sticky. If guys aren't blatantly open,

2837
02:10:11,440 --> 02:10:13,120
Speaker 13: you know he's going to be somebody's a little bit

2838
02:10:13,160 --> 02:10:16,480
Speaker 13: indecisive and wait a second or two. But I mean, yeah,

2839
02:10:16,560 --> 02:10:18,760
Speaker 13: the home versus road thing, I don't know. I think

2840
02:10:18,760 --> 02:10:20,960
Speaker 13: it's kind of strange. I know New York's a big market,

2841
02:10:21,640 --> 02:10:23,440
Speaker 13: and if I put myself in his shoes, I would

2842
02:10:23,440 --> 02:10:25,480
Speaker 13: have a hard time handling that. I guess, as most

2843
02:10:25,520 --> 02:10:28,000
Speaker 13: people would. But it is kind of strange there as

2844
02:10:28,080 --> 02:10:30,600
Speaker 13: a team really bad at home in terms of winning

2845
02:10:30,640 --> 02:10:33,080
Speaker 13: percentage and in terms of primetime games over the last

2846
02:10:33,160 --> 02:10:35,200
Speaker 13: decade too. So it's not just him, but when he

2847
02:10:35,400 --> 02:10:36,880
Speaker 13: was doing this, he was going up for those of

2848
02:10:36,880 --> 02:10:38,360
Speaker 13: you who watched on YouTube and putting my hand on

2849
02:10:38,440 --> 02:10:41,280
Speaker 13: an upward trajectory on the screen right now. He came

2850
02:10:41,360 --> 02:10:42,880
Speaker 13: back down a little bit. We'll see where he lands

2851
02:10:42,880 --> 02:10:45,320
Speaker 13: in QB index this week. And yes, that is a plug.

2852
02:10:46,120 --> 02:10:48,240
Speaker 16: Yes, well you have to because it's a lot of

2853
02:10:48,280 --> 02:10:51,160
Speaker 16: work and people should pay attention to it. There was

2854
02:10:51,200 --> 02:10:54,400
Speaker 16: an opportunity. But because the Giants on their best drive

2855
02:10:54,440 --> 02:10:57,520
Speaker 16: of the night, I believe what was the penetration here?

2856
02:10:57,600 --> 02:11:05,560
Speaker 16: They got down they were at the twenty. No, they

2857
02:11:05,640 --> 02:11:08,680
Speaker 16: are snapping this ball at the fifteen yard line. First

2858
02:11:08,720 --> 02:11:12,640
Speaker 16: and ten from the fourteen yard line. Dimes has the

2859
02:11:12,760 --> 02:11:17,320
Speaker 16: rookie Tracy out in the flat. DJ Turner is covering

2860
02:11:17,400 --> 02:11:20,800
Speaker 16: Tracy in theory, but he turns to run to grass Nick.

2861
02:11:21,360 --> 02:11:24,560
Speaker 16: Tracy is ultimately wide open, and for some reason and

2862
02:11:24,640 --> 02:11:27,200
Speaker 16: Collins were pointed to us out on the game, Dimes

2863
02:11:27,240 --> 02:11:29,720
Speaker 16: takes his eyes off. Tracy gets hit as he throws

2864
02:11:30,160 --> 02:11:32,080
Speaker 16: and throws a ball to Jermaine pet Pratt, he picks

2865
02:11:32,120 --> 02:11:34,160
Speaker 16: his off runs it back to the twenty seven. That

2866
02:11:34,320 --> 02:11:37,360
Speaker 16: was essentially their chance, that was their best opportunity, and

2867
02:11:37,800 --> 02:11:40,960
Speaker 16: there it went just on a weird decision by Daniel Jones.

2868
02:11:41,160 --> 02:11:42,880
Speaker 13: And that came in the first quarter, end of the

2869
02:11:42,920 --> 02:11:45,320
Speaker 13: first quarter too, in a game that was only seven

2870
02:11:45,360 --> 02:11:47,480
Speaker 13: to nothing and they'd put together a strong drive. But

2871
02:11:47,720 --> 02:11:49,680
Speaker 13: that also speaks to what we've seen from Daniel Jones

2872
02:11:49,720 --> 02:11:51,440
Speaker 13: for most of his career, which is this is a

2873
02:11:51,480 --> 02:11:54,280
Speaker 13: guy who when under pressure, tends to flail or tends

2874
02:11:54,320 --> 02:11:56,080
Speaker 13: to you know, have an issue where he gets hit

2875
02:11:56,160 --> 02:11:57,760
Speaker 13: when he throws and the ball goes sky high and

2876
02:11:57,800 --> 02:12:00,480
Speaker 13: it's easy for an interception. I mean, is just kind

2877
02:12:00,480 --> 02:12:02,800
Speaker 13: of who he is. It's unfortunate that this is an

2878
02:12:02,840 --> 02:12:05,280
Speaker 13: offense that's so limited that they have so few chances

2879
02:12:05,320 --> 02:12:07,320
Speaker 13: that it then you know Lingers and by the end

2880
02:12:07,320 --> 02:12:08,640
Speaker 13: of the game, you look back and think, man, that

2881
02:12:08,800 --> 02:12:10,880
Speaker 13: was one of our big opportunities early in this game.

2882
02:12:11,280 --> 02:12:13,200
Speaker 13: But it is what we've seen from him for most

2883
02:12:13,240 --> 02:12:14,879
Speaker 13: of his career, which is why he has the reputation

2884
02:12:14,960 --> 02:12:16,920
Speaker 13: he has, which I was cheering for him, man, just

2885
02:12:17,000 --> 02:12:18,520
Speaker 13: like you were. I was like, man, he's putting together

2886
02:12:18,560 --> 02:12:21,560
Speaker 13: a nice month, like he's starting to build upward, and

2887
02:12:21,880 --> 02:12:23,840
Speaker 13: you know, it's a little bit of a setback.

2888
02:12:24,000 --> 02:12:26,280
Speaker 16: Yeah, a setback where that they're going to have to

2889
02:12:26,400 --> 02:12:29,320
Speaker 16: get better. Their next game is coming up against the

2890
02:12:29,400 --> 02:12:33,720
Speaker 16: Philadelphia Eagles, who just came off a win against the Browns,

2891
02:12:33,920 --> 02:12:36,320
Speaker 16: albeit an odd one, but they got aj Brown back.

2892
02:12:37,160 --> 02:12:40,000
Speaker 16: And speaking of the Browns, that is next up at

2893
02:12:40,000 --> 02:12:43,840
Speaker 16: a visional matchup for the Cincinnati Bengals, who I guess,

2894
02:12:44,120 --> 02:12:46,120
Speaker 16: I mean the caveat that it was the Giants knick,

2895
02:12:46,240 --> 02:12:48,640
Speaker 16: but the defense did you said it lose?

2896
02:12:48,680 --> 02:12:49,760
Speaker 3: Squad played better today?

2897
02:12:50,160 --> 02:12:52,480
Speaker 13: Yeah, I actually honestly think that that match up that

2898
02:12:52,560 --> 02:12:54,320
Speaker 13: the Bengals face next to the Browns will be very

2899
02:12:54,320 --> 02:12:58,320
Speaker 13: similar to this and another offense that's incredibly limited primarily

2900
02:12:58,360 --> 02:13:01,000
Speaker 13: by quarterback play, much more than the Giants are, but

2901
02:13:01,160 --> 02:13:02,920
Speaker 13: against a defense that's going to give them trouble. And

2902
02:13:02,960 --> 02:13:04,480
Speaker 13: that really speaks to the Giants defense. You know, we

2903
02:13:04,720 --> 02:13:06,480
Speaker 13: look at them right now and they lose tonight and

2904
02:13:06,520 --> 02:13:08,800
Speaker 13: they're two and four overall, but they're better than two

2905
02:13:08,800 --> 02:13:10,400
Speaker 13: and four on the defensive side of the football. That

2906
02:13:10,480 --> 02:13:13,360
Speaker 13: front four has been very good. Dexter Lawrence is a machine.

2907
02:13:13,520 --> 02:13:15,160
Speaker 13: He breaks through a double team tonight and gets a

2908
02:13:15,200 --> 02:13:17,280
Speaker 13: sack of Joe Burrow like he's a monster. He's doing

2909
02:13:17,360 --> 02:13:19,760
Speaker 13: a chunky soup ad and he totally deserves it because

2910
02:13:19,760 --> 02:13:23,800
Speaker 13: he's a beast. You know, they didn't have their full

2911
02:13:23,920 --> 02:13:26,240
Speaker 13: group out there Asizo Julari though, has had a great

2912
02:13:26,280 --> 02:13:28,640
Speaker 13: stretch and had a great game tonight as well. So like,

2913
02:13:28,880 --> 02:13:30,840
Speaker 13: it's not all bad news to the Giants just because

2914
02:13:30,840 --> 02:13:32,320
Speaker 13: they put seven points on the board. They do have

2915
02:13:32,400 --> 02:13:35,280
Speaker 13: a really strong defense, especially up front. It's just that

2916
02:13:35,800 --> 02:13:37,520
Speaker 13: in order to win this league, you gotta put it together.

2917
02:13:37,720 --> 02:13:40,680
Speaker 13: So I think that, you know, like in comparison this

2918
02:13:40,760 --> 02:13:42,600
Speaker 13: game tonight, the Browns Bengals game is going to be similar,

2919
02:13:42,640 --> 02:13:44,680
Speaker 13: but the Giants, the Giants got to figure out some

2920
02:13:44,720 --> 02:13:46,120
Speaker 13: way to put more points on the board like they

2921
02:13:46,160 --> 02:13:47,960
Speaker 13: were in the weeks prior, because that defense is going

2922
02:13:48,000 --> 02:13:49,000
Speaker 13: to travel, it'll come to play.

2923
02:13:49,400 --> 02:13:52,440
Speaker 16: Yeah, the defense that deserved better tonight, especially as he's

2924
02:13:52,440 --> 02:13:56,360
Speaker 16: those Jalai I am Brian Burns who were playing incredible tonight.

2925
02:13:56,440 --> 02:13:58,040
Speaker 16: But you want to talk about a great team, what

2926
02:13:58,120 --> 02:14:01,480
Speaker 16: about a team that spans between uh here in Ohio, Nick,

2927
02:14:01,520 --> 02:14:03,240
Speaker 16: we got two thousand plus miles.

2928
02:14:03,360 --> 02:14:05,160
Speaker 3: I got five thousand miles.

2929
02:14:05,360 --> 02:14:08,920
Speaker 16: Going to London thanks to Phoebe Scheckter, Will Gavin, Olly Connelly,

2930
02:14:09,520 --> 02:14:13,960
Speaker 16: Nick Chuk, Randy Eric, everybody. This is a global edition

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02:14:18,920 --> 02:14:21,680
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2933
02:14:21,840 --> 02:14:23,920
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2934
02:14:23,920 --> 02:14:28,600
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2935
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