WEBVTT - 93: The Very Abyssal Episode 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:08.160 Welcome to Nightcall, a production of I Heart Radio. It's 0:00:08.160 --> 0:00:11.960 two thirty five am in the abyss and you're listening 0:00:11.960 --> 0:00:32.320 to night Call. Hello, and welcome to Night Call, of 0:00:32.400 --> 0:00:35.519 podcast for your strange days and lonely nights. I am 0:00:35.600 --> 0:00:38.680 Tess Lynch in Los Angeles and with me our Emily 0:00:38.760 --> 0:00:45.320 Oshida and hello guys. Hey, we have started off this year, 0:00:45.520 --> 0:00:50.320 as you guys remember, with a spooky fridge, A tale 0:00:50.320 --> 0:00:53.640 of a spooky fridge. And it turns out that the 0:00:53.880 --> 0:00:56.920 getting trapped in fridges, which was something we were all 0:00:56.920 --> 0:01:01.600 freaked out about at one time or another, uh, is 0:01:01.680 --> 0:01:06.640 a shared phobia and also a subject of a very 0:01:06.640 --> 0:01:08.880 special episode of a television show. We got a night 0:01:08.920 --> 0:01:12.319 call that explains perhaps why so many people are afraid 0:01:12.319 --> 0:01:14.800 of being trapped in a fridge. So this is this 0:01:14.840 --> 0:01:18.040 email comes from our friend Evan and he writes, dear 0:01:18.200 --> 0:01:21.320 night Call. I was very surprised when during your recent 0:01:21.360 --> 0:01:24.840 discussion of kids getting trapped inside abandoned refrigerators, no one 0:01:24.920 --> 0:01:28.560 mentioned the very special episode of Punky Brewster where this 0:01:28.640 --> 0:01:31.640 happens to Punky's friend Cherry. Maybe you guys are too young. 0:01:32.080 --> 0:01:35.080 I remember watching this when it aired in six and 0:01:35.120 --> 0:01:38.440 being completely traumatized, which I suppose was the point I 0:01:38.480 --> 0:01:41.120 never tried to hide in any abandoned refrigerators after that. 0:01:41.480 --> 0:01:43.440 I'm guessing I won't be the only person to write 0:01:43.440 --> 0:01:45.600 in about this. My wife, who's the same age as 0:01:45.640 --> 0:01:47.760 I am, immediately knew what I was talking about when 0:01:47.760 --> 0:01:50.080 I mentioned it. Actually, all I said to her was 0:01:50.360 --> 0:01:52.240 on night call, they talked about getting trapped in an 0:01:52.280 --> 0:01:55.680 abandoned refrigerator, and her response was like in Punky Brewster. 0:01:56.080 --> 0:01:57.960 But for whatever it's worth, I wanted to bring it 0:01:58.000 --> 0:02:00.280 to your collective attention. You can watch it yere if 0:02:00.320 --> 0:02:02.080 you dare, and there's even an oral history of the 0:02:02.120 --> 0:02:05.240 episode online with links. While we're on the subject, can 0:02:05.280 --> 0:02:07.960 any of you recall very special episodes of sitcoms from 0:02:08.000 --> 0:02:10.799 your childhoods that scarred you emotionally? All the best from 0:02:10.840 --> 0:02:13.720 Los Fie Liz Evan. Wow, what a great night call. 0:02:13.880 --> 0:02:16.400 Such a good night call, Thank you, Evan. Punky Brewster 0:02:16.600 --> 0:02:18.960 was before my time. I was too young for Punky Brewster. 0:02:19.120 --> 0:02:23.720 Also before my time, I was three. Yeah, some of 0:02:23.720 --> 0:02:26.000 these shows, you know would be in syndication and you 0:02:26.000 --> 0:02:29.520 would see them anyway, But Punky Brewster I did not 0:02:29.800 --> 0:02:32.400 ever encounter. Yeah, I feel like, you know, I was 0:02:32.440 --> 0:02:35.400 familiar with like Pippi Longstocking, Like there was some weird, 0:02:35.440 --> 0:02:38.760 badly dub version of Pippi long Stocking that I definitely watched. 0:02:38.919 --> 0:02:42.400 I watched That's a good, good weird, which feels like 0:02:42.639 --> 0:02:46.160 kind of small sponky orphans. The thing that I was 0:02:46.160 --> 0:02:49.079 thinking about was Small Wonder. I was trying to h 0:02:49.240 --> 0:02:51.560 I was trying to explain Small Wonder to someone who's 0:02:51.600 --> 0:02:53.880 never seen it before yesterday. It's hard to do. You 0:02:54.000 --> 0:02:56.160 feel like I only know about Small Wonder from I 0:02:56.200 --> 0:02:59.320 Love the eighties. There was a crop of like E. 0:02:59.440 --> 0:03:02.600 T and S fired shows such as Small Wonder and 0:03:03.840 --> 0:03:05.880 out of This World. Also, out of this World I 0:03:05.919 --> 0:03:10.040 watched a lot of they're kind of like magical girl shows. Actually, 0:03:10.120 --> 0:03:11.600 now that I think about it, so I wonder, you're 0:03:11.600 --> 0:03:14.560 a robot out of this world. Your dad is an 0:03:14.560 --> 0:03:18.560 alien who communicates with you through a crystal, So listen. 0:03:18.800 --> 0:03:21.119 I looked at the mental flass link that Evans sent, 0:03:21.240 --> 0:03:24.640 and it is actually it made me look at Punky 0:03:24.639 --> 0:03:28.560 Brewster very deeply orphan. So here's meant the mental flass 0:03:28.760 --> 0:03:31.400 um kind of summary, which is really part of like 0:03:31.440 --> 0:03:34.840 the oral history of this particular episode said the story 0:03:34.880 --> 0:03:37.720 of an eight year old orphan abandoned by her mother 0:03:38.040 --> 0:03:41.640 and found by a cantankerous old apartment manager. Punky Brewster 0:03:41.760 --> 0:03:45.240 was not conventional network television fair paired with silver spoons 0:03:45.240 --> 0:03:47.720 in the fall of four. It was created to help 0:03:47.760 --> 0:03:52.080 satisfy a Federal Communications Commission mandate that early evening programming 0:03:52.080 --> 0:03:56.200 be either news oriented sixty minutes or somewhat educational. As 0:03:56.240 --> 0:03:59.120 a result, Punky's adventures often involved the perils of sleeping 0:03:59.120 --> 0:04:02.800 pill addiction, missing kids on Milk Carton's Child Moles Station, 0:04:03.240 --> 0:04:07.000 or a rampaging serial killer Barty. This was not I 0:04:07.000 --> 0:04:10.560 feel like we missed the golden age of very special episodes. 0:04:11.360 --> 0:04:14.480 I don't know about that. To me, it feels like 0:04:14.520 --> 0:04:16.880 there was a period that everybody is familiar with in 0:04:16.920 --> 0:04:19.680 the eighties where there were just what was so weird, 0:04:19.680 --> 0:04:22.599 the too Many Cooks era of where somebody might have 0:04:22.640 --> 0:04:24.839 a sleeping pill addiction one week on a sitcom that 0:04:24.880 --> 0:04:28.000 otherwise would never be that serious. Okay, you guys look 0:04:28.080 --> 0:04:30.240 like you have answers. I do, I do. I had 0:04:30.240 --> 0:04:33.000 to look it up to just get reminded of it. Um. 0:04:33.120 --> 0:04:35.440 Punky Brewster was before my time. I was right on 0:04:35.520 --> 0:04:42.039 schedule for full House, consumed every single episode of This 0:04:42.200 --> 0:04:45.880 is our micro generation. Yeah, you guys remember Marlas soakal 0:04:45.880 --> 0:04:49.599 Off like the bad girl of this era because she 0:04:49.760 --> 0:04:52.039 was she was ga, my god, what if we have 0:04:52.080 --> 0:04:55.800 the same episode. It's the smoking one. Okay, it's a 0:04:55.880 --> 0:04:59.720 full house. I was going to put it like that 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:03.159 wasn't traumatizing, and I thought of a more traumatizing one. 0:05:03.800 --> 0:05:07.320 Oh tell us, Emily, tell us about this one, because 0:05:07.320 --> 0:05:09.640 I don't really remember it. This is um so Gia. 0:05:09.800 --> 0:05:12.000 So this is sort of late because it's when Stephanie 0:05:12.040 --> 0:05:14.839 is like a pre teen teen and so Gia is 0:05:14.880 --> 0:05:17.920 like the bad girl at school and there's and she's 0:05:18.040 --> 0:05:20.040 like smoking in the bathroom and Ondesday and I'm sure 0:05:20.040 --> 0:05:22.160 if I went back and watched it now would be like, So, 0:05:22.839 --> 0:05:26.800 there's also a Ghostbuster not Ghosts Ghostwriter episode um where 0:05:26.800 --> 0:05:30.400 there was smoking or some kind of study pills or something. 0:05:30.520 --> 0:05:33.159 I can't remember um, but it kind of had a 0:05:33.160 --> 0:05:35.560 similar vibe where there's like you find out something. It's 0:05:35.560 --> 0:05:38.040 always takes place in the girl's bathroom, like you find 0:05:38.040 --> 0:05:41.120 out something really troubling, like somebody's growing up faster than you. 0:05:43.360 --> 0:05:44.880 I found out a lot of stuff in the girl's 0:05:44.880 --> 0:05:48.120 bathroom circuit fifth and sixth grade, so I completely understand. 0:05:48.200 --> 0:05:51.320 But I do believe that they Full House often for 0:05:51.400 --> 0:05:55.960 their Very Special episodes would do a a coda at 0:05:55.960 --> 0:05:57.919 the end where the cast would be like sitting in 0:05:57.960 --> 0:06:01.680 the living room and addressed to came, uh if you 0:06:01.680 --> 0:06:03.720 you know, I want to I don't know what you 0:06:03.800 --> 0:06:06.200 talked to your kids about smoking or whatever the case 0:06:06.279 --> 0:06:08.679 may be. Like here's a number you can call and 0:06:08.680 --> 0:06:10.599 and it's like very and everybody just like looks like 0:06:10.600 --> 0:06:14.200 they're at a funeral. It's and there's Yeah, that's that's 0:06:14.240 --> 0:06:17.279 the scariest thing. The actual episode itself was not that 0:06:17.400 --> 0:06:19.440 troubling to me, But any time the cast of Full 0:06:19.440 --> 0:06:22.039 House was direct to camera telling you to be scared 0:06:22.080 --> 0:06:25.599 of something, I was just like, Oh, okay, guys, that 0:06:25.680 --> 0:06:28.960 episode is really about like shame and guilt. It's like 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:33.080 your parents will be disappointed, Bob sag it's going to 0:06:33.200 --> 0:06:38.480 disown you. Yeah. But here's my argument. I think that 0:06:38.520 --> 0:06:40.560 the Full House T G I F. You're a Very 0:06:40.600 --> 0:06:43.839 Special episodes was like the end of the era, the 0:06:43.960 --> 0:06:47.599 Baroque period of Very Special episodes, because you if you 0:06:47.640 --> 0:06:49.480 were watching all of t G, I f you could 0:06:49.480 --> 0:06:52.000 have like two in a night. Yeah, but I think 0:06:52.080 --> 0:06:55.120 this was like on the heels of an eighties time 0:06:55.160 --> 0:06:57.880 when this was like such a trope that it became 0:06:57.960 --> 0:07:01.360 like a widely ridiculed thing, a very special episode, although 0:07:01.360 --> 0:07:04.520 now we know it was mandated by the network. My 0:07:04.680 --> 0:07:08.760 answer is, of course, the drunk driving episode of Saved 0:07:08.760 --> 0:07:13.640 by the Bell what a nightmare because they don't show 0:07:13.680 --> 0:07:16.320 it a lot because it is dark. They go to 0:07:16.400 --> 0:07:20.720 a party and Zach gets drunk and then he drives 0:07:21.320 --> 0:07:26.480 him and I think Jesse home and then crashes. What 0:07:26.520 --> 0:07:28.440 did they end up in the hospital? I think so 0:07:28.640 --> 0:07:31.760 he feels really guilty. It's very dark. I know a 0:07:31.760 --> 0:07:35.080 lot of people would say that the speed episode of 0:07:35.200 --> 0:07:38.280 Oh yeah, that's the clear, that's the classic, but that 0:07:38.320 --> 0:07:40.840 one just has become a joke. It's a joke. It 0:07:40.920 --> 0:07:43.080 was kind of a joke to begin. It was so 0:07:43.240 --> 0:07:46.800 ridiculously heightened that you couldn't help but think like, she 0:07:46.880 --> 0:07:50.360 must have really crushed up all those the drunk driving 0:07:50.360 --> 0:07:53.400 episodes fucked up because it also like punctures the sort 0:07:53.400 --> 0:07:55.880 of wholesomeness of the Saved by the Bell universe in 0:07:55.920 --> 0:07:57.960 a way that they're not allowed to do, you know, 0:07:58.440 --> 0:08:00.880 which is why Riverdale is because it's just all that 0:08:01.200 --> 0:08:07.240 a special episodes. But yeah, it just makes you be like, yeah, 0:08:07.280 --> 0:08:09.840 of course these kids would like drink and have sex 0:08:09.920 --> 0:08:13.080 and drive drunk and stuff. So let me just before 0:08:13.080 --> 0:08:15.240 I tell you guys mine, I just wanted to let 0:08:15.240 --> 0:08:18.280 you know first some trip. I watched the episode where 0:08:18.520 --> 0:08:21.320 Cherry gets It's called Cherry Lifesaver if you want to 0:08:21.600 --> 0:08:25.400 watch it yourself. Um, and it is the one of 0:08:25.440 --> 0:08:27.760 the darkest things I've ever seen. And I'm just gonna 0:08:27.880 --> 0:08:31.480 spoil it really quick. So um, Punky and her friends 0:08:31.480 --> 0:08:34.199 whose names I don't remember, and her friend Cherry are 0:08:34.240 --> 0:08:37.440 all playing hide and seek outside and it starts snowing, 0:08:37.840 --> 0:08:40.800 and the person who's counting is reaching, you know, like 0:08:40.840 --> 0:08:43.080 they're about to end their account. And Cherry is the 0:08:43.080 --> 0:08:46.160 only one who doesn't have a hiding place. So the 0:08:46.240 --> 0:08:48.640 kind of the kind of like grumpy guy who adopted 0:08:48.640 --> 0:08:52.200 Punky has just put his old fridge out, and I 0:08:52.240 --> 0:08:56.680 think he even mentioned like, don't hide in here, Cherry does. Anyway, 0:08:56.840 --> 0:09:00.720 they look, can't find her, they go inside, convinced she's 0:09:00.760 --> 0:09:04.920 inside they're looking around inside, and then by the time 0:09:04.960 --> 0:09:08.320 they find her, she has stopped breathing and has no pulse. 0:09:08.880 --> 0:09:11.520 Are you kidding? Not kidding at all? So they take 0:09:11.559 --> 0:09:14.720 her out and the grumpy apartment guy is like, I 0:09:14.720 --> 0:09:17.480 don't know how to do CPR. Kid over here, do 0:09:17.520 --> 0:09:19.360 you know how to do CPR? And he's like, no, 0:09:19.600 --> 0:09:22.000 I was in the principal's office. So then by the 0:09:22.000 --> 0:09:24.280 time Punky and her friend come down, they know how 0:09:24.280 --> 0:09:27.520 to do CPR. They perform CPR and literally bring this 0:09:27.600 --> 0:09:30.600 girl back to life, and it's shot in a very 0:09:30.600 --> 0:09:33.480 distressing way with distressing music and like long pauses. But 0:09:33.559 --> 0:09:36.480 what's interesting is it was this story was chosen from 0:09:36.480 --> 0:09:39.280 a pitch contest and a kid wrote in and was 0:09:39.360 --> 0:09:41.960 like I would like to see because they were like, 0:09:41.960 --> 0:09:43.559 what's a lesson that you want to teach me? Was like, 0:09:43.600 --> 0:09:45.439 I want to see someone save someone else's life with 0:09:45.520 --> 0:09:49.160 CPR so that kids at home can learn CPR. And 0:09:49.200 --> 0:09:52.840 they added the fridge. They added the fridge, so then 0:09:52.840 --> 0:09:54.679 he went to go see it and he was like, 0:09:54.760 --> 0:09:58.480 what the hell, I didn't say anything about a fridge anyway. 0:09:58.840 --> 0:10:03.600 So my very special episode is two episodes, both featuring 0:10:03.760 --> 0:10:08.599 uncles on family ties. One of them is um I 0:10:08.640 --> 0:10:10.520 don't even remember who played him, but there was like 0:10:10.559 --> 0:10:13.840 an uncle but not a blood relation uncle who molested 0:10:13.960 --> 0:10:16.280 Mallory after giving her some kind of like an internship. 0:10:16.960 --> 0:10:22.040 But the worst, the most intense one is Tom Hanks 0:10:22.240 --> 0:10:25.839 as an alcoholic uncle who comes to visit and it's 0:10:25.880 --> 0:10:28.760 like played for laughs where he's like just drinking everything 0:10:28.760 --> 0:10:30.720 in the liquor cabinet and they're like, oh, you drink 0:10:30.760 --> 0:10:33.040 too much, and Tom Hanks looks so young, and then 0:10:33.240 --> 0:10:35.559 at some point he runs out of liquor and starts 0:10:35.600 --> 0:10:39.240 drinking vanilla extract and Maraschino cherry juice. And then he 0:10:39.280 --> 0:10:41.880 tries to get Alex to like go for a beer 0:10:41.960 --> 0:10:44.600 with him, and it's like really like badgering him, and 0:10:44.640 --> 0:10:48.120 then he ends up slapping Alex Keaton and it's really 0:10:48.120 --> 0:10:50.480 intense to see a very young looking Tom Hanks slapping. 0:10:50.760 --> 0:10:55.040 That's interesting too, because I was just thinking um about 0:10:55.120 --> 0:10:57.079 when Tom Hanks won that award the other night of 0:10:57.120 --> 0:10:59.000 the Globes. I was like, as Tom Hanks ever played 0:10:59.040 --> 0:11:02.199 a bad person? Oh yeah he did? Uncle ned was bad? Yeah, 0:11:02.440 --> 0:11:04.280 like in a movie, because Tom Hanks ever been a 0:11:04.360 --> 0:11:09.280 villain because he is bad. Isn't he a bridge of spies? 0:11:09.360 --> 0:11:12.840 Isn't he bad? In Bridge of I was just curious 0:11:12.880 --> 0:11:15.120 because I don't know, and I was like, people who 0:11:15.160 --> 0:11:17.400 tend to only play goody goodies tend to have a 0:11:17.480 --> 0:11:22.400 darkness inside. Yeah, and then he was feuding with Fonzie. 0:11:22.840 --> 0:11:25.640 Well all of the darkness and Tom Hanks has been 0:11:26.000 --> 0:11:32.760 purely channeled through his sun shut. I watched that instagram 0:11:32.840 --> 0:11:35.240 so many times. One more thing on the note of 0:11:35.280 --> 0:11:38.280 spooky fridges. Maybe I just have high fridge awareness now 0:11:38.280 --> 0:11:41.680 because we were talking about them. But I saw abandoned 0:11:41.720 --> 0:11:44.240 fridge on the street the other day that someone had 0:11:44.280 --> 0:11:47.840 tagged slum lord on the side of it. Because a 0:11:47.880 --> 0:11:49.920 fridge on the sidewalk in l A is often a 0:11:50.000 --> 0:11:53.600 sign that somebody is evicting everybody, Yeah, and gonna put 0:11:53.640 --> 0:11:57.120 in a new fridge, So another reason to be scared. 0:11:57.160 --> 0:12:02.200 They're never a good thing. It's chilling. If you have 0:12:02.320 --> 0:12:05.280 thoughts on very special episodes or refrigerators, please give us 0:12:05.280 --> 0:12:07.240 a call at two four oh four six night or 0:12:07.280 --> 0:12:10.000 an email at night Call podcast at gmail dot com. 0:12:10.040 --> 0:12:12.320 After we get back, we will have some thoughts on 0:12:12.400 --> 0:12:34.000 Molly's very famous and shocking Seinfeld cool and we're back. Molly. 0:12:34.080 --> 0:12:37.520 On Twitter the other day, you post a very interesting question. 0:12:37.600 --> 0:12:39.360 I'd like to talk about how this went down. What 0:12:39.400 --> 0:12:41.400 happened was we were watching Seinfeld, me and my boyfriend 0:12:41.480 --> 0:12:45.880 watching Seinfeld, and I said, if you had to have 0:12:46.000 --> 0:12:49.120 sex with one of the main Seinfeld man, Elaine's not 0:12:49.160 --> 0:12:52.480 allowed because everybody would pick Elane. But you know Jerry, 0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:56.640 George or Kramer. Um, I think I was just like, 0:12:56.679 --> 0:13:00.920 I think most people would pick Jerry possibly Orige might win. 0:13:01.800 --> 0:13:06.199 But he said, no way. Everyone wants to fun Cramer. 0:13:06.800 --> 0:13:08.719 And I was like, what are you talking about. No, 0:13:08.880 --> 0:13:10.960 they don't and he was like, I promise you if 0:13:11.000 --> 0:13:13.160 you if you run a poll. He said, run a 0:13:13.160 --> 0:13:16.920 poll on Twitter. Cramer is going to win in a landslide. 0:13:17.840 --> 0:13:19.920 And that is what happens. That happened. What were the 0:13:20.000 --> 0:13:23.880 final results. I think it was like seventy Cramer something, 0:13:25.520 --> 0:13:27.360 but it was it was like a strong It was 0:13:27.400 --> 0:13:29.560 interesting too to follow a pulk because it was like 0:13:29.600 --> 0:13:31.959 people really had I love doing a poll. People had 0:13:32.000 --> 0:13:36.840 really strong feelings about this. It made everybody really examine themselves. 0:13:36.960 --> 0:13:40.840 It made everyone a little sick. Yeah, but um, it 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:44.480 really stayed this consistent throughout, like from the when they 0:13:44.520 --> 0:13:46.720 had a hundred votes to when it had like maybe 0:13:46.720 --> 0:13:48.720 two thousand votes. At the end, it was like the 0:13:48.760 --> 0:13:52.920 same percentages the whole time, which was that fifty percent 0:13:53.000 --> 0:13:59.680 of people chose Cramer, and then it was like Jerry George. 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:05.520 I'm so astounded, not as somebody who voted for cramerer. 0:14:06.440 --> 0:14:08.040 Oh my god, We're going to cover all the basis. 0:14:08.080 --> 0:14:12.000 It's gonna be amazing. What what were yours? Well after 0:14:12.640 --> 0:14:19.360 we guess what, um, Molly picked George and you picked Jerry. 0:14:20.080 --> 0:14:27.200 Really god about ourselves, because what I learned is that 0:14:27.240 --> 0:14:29.960 I want to be a person who picks George, but 0:14:30.720 --> 0:14:34.320 I would pick Jerry, which is horrible to say. This 0:14:34.400 --> 0:14:40.080 is a fictional Jerry Seinfeld. Also, you can't different from 0:14:40.200 --> 0:14:43.480 the real person Jerry. And again we need to emphasize 0:14:43.480 --> 0:14:47.800 that Cosmo Cramer is not I think I also thought 0:14:47.840 --> 0:14:49.680 the Michael Richard's nest would get in the way of 0:14:49.760 --> 0:14:53.480 people wanting Cramer, but I don't know. I mean Michael 0:14:53.560 --> 0:14:58.720 Richards or Cosmo Cramer seems actually say it's interchangeable. Seems 0:14:58.760 --> 0:15:01.160 the most like somebody that you might if you were 0:15:01.360 --> 0:15:04.400 a person that was single and just like meeting people 0:15:04.480 --> 0:15:06.600 at random in bars or something in New York City. 0:15:06.640 --> 0:15:10.000 Now that seems the most like somebody that you us 0:15:10.040 --> 0:15:12.080 at our age right now would probably run into and 0:15:12.120 --> 0:15:15.960 maybe like strike up something with romantic or otherwise. I think, okay, 0:15:15.960 --> 0:15:20.720 everybody everybody picked. I think everyone would pick Jason Alexander 0:15:20.800 --> 0:15:25.040 if it were the real people. Oh I would yeah, oh, 0:15:25.160 --> 0:15:31.000 the real people. Between Jerry Seinfeld, Michael Richards, and Jason Alexander, 0:15:31.000 --> 0:15:33.280 everybody was like, Jason Alexander seems like a nice person 0:15:34.120 --> 0:15:38.120 who loves to be in musicals, just loves musicals. But 0:15:39.000 --> 0:15:41.840 because yeah, this was harrowing for a lot of people, 0:15:42.280 --> 0:15:46.800 so here I wrote down some arguments against all of them. 0:15:46.840 --> 0:15:49.960 It was very hard to find arguments for. But I'm 0:15:50.000 --> 0:15:53.720 my question for Emily would you be okay with him 0:15:53.760 --> 0:15:58.520 busting into your apartment uninvited, unannounced, eating all your food? 0:15:58.920 --> 0:16:02.960 And if you stated at his apartment, are you remembering 0:16:03.280 --> 0:16:06.520 that it was haunted by a doll named Mr Marble's 0:16:07.400 --> 0:16:10.720 think about it. I mean, this is not dating, That's 0:16:10.720 --> 0:16:15.040 what I'm saying. Whoever's place you're at, you know, are 0:16:15.080 --> 0:16:19.040 you at a motel like that? Change his or yours. 0:16:19.600 --> 0:16:22.480 I'm gonna say his home with me. But you remember 0:16:22.480 --> 0:16:26.600 that when Jerry and Kramer traded apartments, Jerry became Kramer like, 0:16:26.840 --> 0:16:29.320 and that would happen to you as well. We didn't 0:16:29.360 --> 0:16:32.080 think he would be in my apartment. So she's saying, okay, 0:16:32.120 --> 0:16:34.720 at your apartment, so then he's gonna eat, and then 0:16:34.720 --> 0:16:36.800 he knows where you live and he's gonna drop by. 0:16:36.880 --> 0:16:39.320 I'm just saying, yeah. The thing that really puts Test 0:16:39.360 --> 0:16:42.240 off is apparently the drop in skis the drop in no, 0:16:42.440 --> 0:16:48.720 but that feels very like charming in nineties. He drops 0:16:48.720 --> 0:16:52.400 in all of a sudden. I'm living in a communal table. Yeah. Yeah, 0:16:52.440 --> 0:16:56.320 I think I realized that I would I would pick Jerry, 0:16:56.400 --> 0:16:59.200 which was really disappointing to me but also made me 0:16:59.280 --> 0:17:02.280 be like, oh my, like a little attracted to contempt. 0:17:03.760 --> 0:17:06.680 Jerry is too much like people that I've actually dated 0:17:06.680 --> 0:17:10.680 a lot of other girls I know said enough Jerry. Yeah, 0:17:11.200 --> 0:17:13.359 I think I didn't really date ny Jerry, so I 0:17:13.400 --> 0:17:17.960 could I could handle the idea. Yeah, not for a relationship, 0:17:18.080 --> 0:17:19.920 it's just one one. But I just think it would 0:17:19.960 --> 0:17:23.840 be very boring, probably probably for one night. Who cared 0:17:23.880 --> 0:17:26.600 boring is probably fine, would not be boring with George. 0:17:26.680 --> 0:17:32.800 I'm just saying, Um, George may have terrible parents to 0:17:32.840 --> 0:17:35.560 be obsessed with the Civil War and like a just 0:17:35.720 --> 0:17:39.119 terribly neurotic person. But George would like maybe bring a 0:17:39.160 --> 0:17:44.239 sandwich and that's really But that to me says that 0:17:44.280 --> 0:17:47.159 you are George, I think. But he's also based on 0:17:47.240 --> 0:17:50.520 Larry David. I think that George would be actually the 0:17:50.520 --> 0:17:52.879 only person to really think about like taking you out 0:17:52.920 --> 0:17:56.840 for jenneral Fee. George would do anything for someone he 0:17:57.200 --> 0:18:00.560 was enamored up. Yeah, so you'd be treated the best us. Probably. 0:18:02.000 --> 0:18:04.359 We would like to know what you think of the 0:18:04.480 --> 0:18:06.639 great Seinfeld poll. This is good because I did a 0:18:06.640 --> 0:18:08.399 poll last year that was which one of the friends 0:18:08.400 --> 0:18:12.880 as a murderer. Oh, which is a very tough Um. 0:18:12.920 --> 0:18:15.720 I believe it was like Ross and Monica together working 0:18:15.760 --> 0:18:18.800 together as a sibling duo. Not such a stretch. I 0:18:18.800 --> 0:18:20.960 don't believe that anybody, any of them, you could make 0:18:21.000 --> 0:18:25.119 an organ l you think Chandler. Chandler seems obvious, but 0:18:25.240 --> 0:18:28.439 Joey seems like he would maybe like vehicular manslaughter and 0:18:28.440 --> 0:18:32.320 then just be like, no, never happened. What about Phoebe? 0:18:33.320 --> 0:18:35.760 She could Be. I I would say Phoebe and Chandler 0:18:35.840 --> 0:18:38.320 would be my top picks. But you know you couldn't 0:18:38.320 --> 0:18:40.800 imagine it for almost anybody. If you would like us 0:18:40.840 --> 0:18:43.840 also to talk about who we would like to make 0:18:43.840 --> 0:18:52.320 out with or kill honest scom, honestly com honest sitcom. 0:18:52.359 --> 0:18:54.359 If you want us to do a bracket of who's 0:18:54.400 --> 0:18:58.439 the most fuckable on Taxi, we've got answers. Can we 0:18:58.480 --> 0:19:01.000 talk real quick about another below would figure to figure 0:19:01.000 --> 0:19:06.240 of the nineties? Who's in us? Maybe Gwyneth Paltrow is 0:19:06.280 --> 0:19:08.720 going to have a Netflix show called The Group Lab. 0:19:09.960 --> 0:19:13.080 I want to work there. I want to work at 0:19:13.080 --> 0:19:15.120 the Group Lab. That makes me so sad. I want 0:19:15.119 --> 0:19:16.800 to be a woman in stem. I want to work 0:19:16.800 --> 0:19:19.880 at the group Shout out to Wesley Morris for shouting 0:19:19.960 --> 0:19:23.440 us out about Group. Yeah, Wesley wrote a really great 0:19:23.480 --> 0:19:26.359 piece that I've of course, really vibed with because the 0:19:26.359 --> 0:19:29.160 headline of it, I believe is I love Gwyneth Paltrow. 0:19:29.200 --> 0:19:32.280 There I said it. Um. It was in the New 0:19:32.320 --> 0:19:34.720 York Times last fall, so I think it was when 0:19:34.720 --> 0:19:36.639 she was in the Politician, which I did not watch. 0:19:36.680 --> 0:19:39.600 I'm not my my opinions about Gwyneth Paltrow have nothing 0:19:39.600 --> 0:19:43.040 to do with the politician or acting. No, actually, it 0:19:43.040 --> 0:19:44.679 does have to do with her acting. I think she 0:19:44.840 --> 0:19:48.640 is a wonderful actress. I think that the only problem 0:19:48.680 --> 0:19:51.000 that I have with Group really at the end of 0:19:51.040 --> 0:19:53.120 the day, is that she's doing that instead of being 0:19:53.119 --> 0:19:56.800 in movies. Uh. There's a whole thing with the people 0:19:56.880 --> 0:19:59.040 that are like, it's I'm making I could make more 0:19:59.040 --> 0:20:01.520 money as an influence sert than an actress and work 0:20:01.600 --> 0:20:04.119 less hard, So why don't I just be an influencer? 0:20:04.160 --> 0:20:07.879 That to me, it's like, how fucking privileged do you 0:20:07.880 --> 0:20:09.959 have to be to be Like I'll just take like 0:20:10.840 --> 0:20:13.119 however long I want off from work, and when I 0:20:13.160 --> 0:20:15.720 come back, it'll just be there. Well, she was the 0:20:15.760 --> 0:20:18.320 pioneer of this, and I think that a lot of it. 0:20:18.359 --> 0:20:22.520 I've written about this before, uh in Grantland. I think 0:20:22.560 --> 0:20:25.240 a lot of Group as I understood it, like that, 0:20:25.400 --> 0:20:28.199 given the timeline and later interviews that she did, was 0:20:28.359 --> 0:20:31.360 very much about her postpartum depression. I think she had 0:20:31.359 --> 0:20:33.959 a really hard time after she had her kids. And 0:20:34.000 --> 0:20:35.720 I think also she had had a lot of bad 0:20:35.720 --> 0:20:38.280 experiences in the industry as we now know, And I 0:20:38.280 --> 0:20:40.639 think it's all very understandable and to like want to 0:20:40.680 --> 0:20:42.760 just like start a business and do something that doesn't 0:20:42.800 --> 0:20:45.760 have anything to do with that and kind of like go, yeah, 0:20:45.880 --> 0:20:48.320 just do something. Its like lower stakes at that moment, 0:20:48.400 --> 0:20:50.879 like when Goop is just a blog, but it's the 0:20:51.000 --> 0:20:59.400 worst business I ever started by class class war gasoline. 0:20:59.720 --> 0:21:04.159 If it were cheap, if Goop, you'd be sign the 0:21:04.280 --> 0:21:07.919 news free. If the things that she sold were cheating, Oh, 0:21:08.080 --> 0:21:10.280 I won't buy any of the things she sells. I 0:21:10.320 --> 0:21:12.239 just enjoy like and she and she has a lot 0:21:12.280 --> 0:21:14.600 of recipes. I have actually like used a lot of 0:21:14.600 --> 0:21:16.800 her recipes in the past. I copped to using a 0:21:16.840 --> 0:21:19.040 couple of recipes and finding them good. But my my 0:21:19.160 --> 0:21:22.000 issue is I feel offended by the price point I 0:21:22.080 --> 0:21:25.440 make recipes off. Christian from vander Pump Rules is yeah, okay, 0:21:26.280 --> 0:21:29.680 you hate an influencer, not one, but I just feel 0:21:29.680 --> 0:21:33.399 like she sells snake oil. That's what's the real issue 0:21:33.440 --> 0:21:37.399 is the when she makes borderline medical or scientific claims 0:21:37.440 --> 0:21:40.160 it's her doctor, not her it is her doctor, but cheat, 0:21:40.240 --> 0:21:43.320 but the doctor giving the doctor a platform that has 0:21:43.359 --> 0:21:47.280 like legitimacy to it is an issue like the vagina 0:21:47.320 --> 0:21:50.520 and I don't think that we get to like our 0:21:50.640 --> 0:21:54.399 now our moment of like self care now though without Goop, 0:21:54.640 --> 0:21:58.960 like and I think, but you what you love self 0:21:59.000 --> 0:22:03.760 grandparenting it basically the same satire of how stupid self 0:22:03.760 --> 0:22:06.439 care is. I think it's more that self care the 0:22:06.520 --> 0:22:09.520 industry versus self care the practice. If you can self 0:22:09.520 --> 0:22:12.480 care for free or for cheap, then it's a different thing. 0:22:12.520 --> 0:22:14.600 But when people talk about self care in terms of 0:22:14.640 --> 0:22:17.880 like even just the expenditure of time for like a 0:22:17.960 --> 0:22:20.800 multi step face, you know, and and there's like a backlash. 0:22:21.160 --> 0:22:24.120 It's like the idea that you're just like this endless 0:22:24.480 --> 0:22:29.520 vagina that just like turns inward eternally. That sounds great, 0:22:29.560 --> 0:22:33.760 that sounds like it's like you have to love that. 0:22:33.840 --> 0:22:36.280 She she signed off on the art for the Goop Lab, 0:22:36.320 --> 0:22:39.040 though I don't like how like it's like let's like 0:22:39.320 --> 0:22:42.800