WEBVTT - Anacondas: Not Like in the Movie

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff You Should Know, a production of iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh, and there's

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<v Speaker 2>Chuck and Jerry's here for the moment and this is

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<v Speaker 2>Stuff you should know the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. This is one of my ideas. I believe

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<v Speaker 1>Olivia helped us with this because I am on a

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<v Speaker 1>mission to get my daughter to watch the movie Anaconda.

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<v Speaker 2>The first one?

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<v Speaker 1>Was there another one?

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<v Speaker 2>I think they remade it? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I mean if we're talking about the one with

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<v Speaker 1>John Boyd and Ice Cube and Owen Wilson, that's the

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<v Speaker 1>one I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't forget j Lo. She's the star that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, arguably the stars, that big slithery snake.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess. So. I watched it for the very first

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<v Speaker 2>time last night.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh did you really?

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<v Speaker 2>It's not good?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 2>I know. I mean it's not one of those it's

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<v Speaker 2>like so bad it's good. It's just kind of bad.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I see, I think it's kind of a fun

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<v Speaker 1>bad movie. Are friends of the podcast the flop House.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bad Movie podcast has been around for as long

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<v Speaker 1>as we have. Those guys are great. Their rating system

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<v Speaker 1>is good, bad movie, bad, bad movie, or movie I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of liked, so it's kind of fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Did they raid Anna Conda? Do you know?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that they've ever done this one. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>have to ask Dan about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm giving it a bad, bad movie, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember it as being good bad and for a

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<v Speaker 1>you know, almost ten year old like she would like it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, totally. There's a lot of Jaws homage to it.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm sure that's one reason you like it subconsciously.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I had a just before we get going again

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<v Speaker 1>while we're on movies, a very humbling dad moment, which

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<v Speaker 1>is a reminder that you can't necessarily make your favorite

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<v Speaker 1>stuff your kid's favorite stuff. We've tried to watch Army

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<v Speaker 1>of Dark aka Evil Dead three and she made it

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<v Speaker 1>through about forty minutes and I thought she was liking it,

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<v Speaker 1>and then she went, yeah, can we turn this off?

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<v Speaker 1>And I was so heartbroken. I was like, oh, oh really.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, you don't think it's kind of fun

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<v Speaker 1>and funny and weird and she was like, yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's just not my thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, okay, man, did you tried her

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<v Speaker 2>out of the will?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? That's it. Sorry. Bruce Campbell gets it all Now.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know what she didn't like about it?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh? No, I mean it wasn't too scary because she

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't mind scary stuff. It was funny, she was lad.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I thought she was into it. It

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<v Speaker 1>may have just been the mood. Maybe a try again later,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's happened before.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you ever seen Bubba Ho Tep with Bruce Campbell?

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<v Speaker 1>You bet, your sweet Bibi I have. It's a great movie.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder if she would like that, Like maybe she

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<v Speaker 2>didn't like all the skeletons that he had to fight

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff like that, but she would like Bruce Campbell

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<v Speaker 2>doing his thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, who doesn't. I think Bruce Campbell is

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<v Speaker 1>appeals to all ages.

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<v Speaker 2>He really does. And that's our Bruce Campbell's story.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Should we do a good old fashioned stuff

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<v Speaker 1>you should know animal episode?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is definitely that. We're talking Anaconda's for those

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<v Speaker 2>of you who didn't bother to look at the title,

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<v Speaker 2>and Anaconda's are giant, massive snakes, the world's heaviest snake,

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<v Speaker 2>like by far, not the world's longest, but they're not

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<v Speaker 2>too much shorter than the world's longest, so they're just

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<v Speaker 2>a massive giant snake. They're BoA's, which means they like

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<v Speaker 2>to constrict you. They're big enough that if you're a human,

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<v Speaker 2>they could constrict around you and kill you and eat

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<v Speaker 2>you if they wanted to. Luckily, they don't really have

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<v Speaker 2>much to do with humans. Apparently our buns are not

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<v Speaker 2>substantial enough for their liking, and so they don't want

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<v Speaker 2>none of us.

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<v Speaker 1>And just remember, everyone, you can decide bins or sit ups,

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<v Speaker 1>but please don't lose that butt.

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<v Speaker 2>Nope, not if you want a anaconda to eat you.

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<v Speaker 1>I just reference that specific part of that song this

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<v Speaker 1>past weekend because that is my favorite part of that song,

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<v Speaker 1>which is one of my favorite.

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<v Speaker 2>Songs, the side bends and sit ups part.

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<v Speaker 1>No, just that whole sort of section starting with workout

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<v Speaker 1>tapes by Fonda. It's just I don't know it's again, sir,

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<v Speaker 1>mixedco Loot. How we've talked about him a lot lately.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like, yeah, he's come up a couple of times,

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<v Speaker 2>almost as much as Billy Joel.

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<v Speaker 1>They should do a mashup.

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<v Speaker 2>So yes, So anacondas are giant and scary, but strangely

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<v Speaker 2>they're not really anything to be scared of. According to

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<v Speaker 2>science and people who don't live around them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they are a member of the unctus genus, which

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<v Speaker 1>means good swimmer in Greek. And as we'll see, they

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<v Speaker 1>are great swimmers and they are part of the I

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<v Speaker 1>even look this up.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's like it's spelled.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, say it then, bowie day Okay, I saw

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<v Speaker 1>e though I think we've been pronouncing d e a

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<v Speaker 1>e wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's a d Bowiiti, m, You're back on

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<v Speaker 2>that bowbo thing again, and I'm pretty sure it's bowide

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe how about boi de, But.

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<v Speaker 1>That is known as a true boa. They are non venomous,

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<v Speaker 1>so they're not gonna They're not gonna kill you with venom.

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<v Speaker 1>They're just gonna give you a big, warm hug. But

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<v Speaker 1>they're not after you again. Like you said, they snakes

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<v Speaker 1>generally don't want to be around people at all, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's certainly not like the movie where they are on

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<v Speaker 1>the attack.

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<v Speaker 2>No, and I mean they say so many lies about

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<v Speaker 2>Ana Conda's in that movie.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, yeah, bad, real bad.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah. Luckily most of the people who saw that

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<v Speaker 2>movie probably don't live around ana Conas and don't have

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<v Speaker 2>a chance to kill them. But it was like that

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<v Speaker 2>level of lies and smears against the anta condas in

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<v Speaker 2>that movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. One thing that the movie did get right and

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<v Speaker 1>that I mentioned is that they are great, great swimmers.

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<v Speaker 1>They have those eyes and the nose on top of

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<v Speaker 1>the head, so they can barely keep their little top

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<v Speaker 1>of their head out of the water and still be

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<v Speaker 1>below water, which is a terrifying thought. Although mostly when

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen them, they're kind of swimming on top of

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<v Speaker 1>the water like you see a lot of snakes do.

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<v Speaker 1>But they can hold their breath for like ten minutes, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and just like fully dive.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, ten minutes. Like the more you learn about anaconda,

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<v Speaker 2>is this, the more unsettling they are. Like it's good

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<v Speaker 2>that they don't really want to have much to do

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<v Speaker 2>with humans, but if they wanted to, like, we would

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<v Speaker 2>be in trouble for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Absolutely, Because they love the water so much. They

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<v Speaker 1>obviously live in the swamps of the world, slow flowing rivers.

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<v Speaker 1>If there are places that are flooded annually or seasonally,

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<v Speaker 1>they will be there during those times, and when it's

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<v Speaker 1>not they will probably travel to wetter climbs or maybe

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<v Speaker 1>just burrow down in the mud. But they'll also go

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<v Speaker 1>into the jungle and forest here and there. Just they

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<v Speaker 1>really like the water though.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all fresh water. Though they're not salt tolerant, which

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<v Speaker 2>was not immediately apparent to me. I had to look

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<v Speaker 2>it up.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you thought there could be like an ocean anaconda.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'll explain why later on. How about that. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to save that one for later.

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<v Speaker 1>My thinking, are you going to say the word bracash

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<v Speaker 1>at any point?

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<v Speaker 2>I may?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So, just because they're snakes, they have the Jacobson's organ

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<v Speaker 2>in their mouth, the roof of their mouth. It's prominently

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<v Speaker 2>featured in the movie Anaconda because I think like bears

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<v Speaker 2>its fangs at the camera like every thirty forty seconds. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's it's Jacobson's organ, the big hole in the

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<v Speaker 2>back of the roof of its mouth. And because whenever

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<v Speaker 2>you see a snake flicker its tongue really quickly, what

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<v Speaker 2>it's doing is it's sampling the air and transferring it

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<v Speaker 2>to the Jacobson's organ, which analyzes it and says, there's

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<v Speaker 2>a cap of bara right over there, let's go eat it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, they can. Also the heat signatures can be recognized,

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<v Speaker 1>so part of finding that animal is their warm blood.

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<v Speaker 1>But they also use it to find a nice cool

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<v Speaker 1>place to go rest after they've had a big meal,

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<v Speaker 1>which we'll get to.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the yeah, and that's a different one. That's the

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<v Speaker 2>pit organ. This is just nuts.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, so.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the one that so one the Jacobsen's senses smells

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<v Speaker 2>in the air. Pit organs, like you said, sense heat,

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<v Speaker 2>and the pit organs transfer these this these electrical impulses

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<v Speaker 2>based on thermal signatures to their optic center and it

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<v Speaker 2>gets integrated with their vision so they can see like

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<v Speaker 2>a capa bara again, plain as day, in complete darkness,

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<v Speaker 2>just like predator.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's I mean we think we've never we've never

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<v Speaker 1>asked them to draw a picture of what that looks like.

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<v Speaker 1>It's true, but this is the best we can figure.

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean that kind of goes to show just

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<v Speaker 2>how amazing science can be, that that we basically walk

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<v Speaker 2>around thinking like we know what anaconda's vision looks like,

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<v Speaker 2>even though yeah, no Ana Conda's ever told us.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean that's the same with whether an animal

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<v Speaker 1>is colorblind. I'm always like, well, how do you know? Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>So if you want to talk couple. Speaking of colors,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get to the nitty gritty of sort of the

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<v Speaker 1>different kinds of anacondas, but for now we'll just say

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<v Speaker 1>the green ones are the ones that are really really big.

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<v Speaker 1>They're bigger than the yellow ones. They're the heaviest snake

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<v Speaker 1>in the world. Like you said, basically, I think you

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned not the longest that goes to the reticulated python,

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<v Speaker 1>but the female anaconda green anaconda is larger than the male,

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<v Speaker 1>anywhere from fifteen to thirty feet even sometimes that's at

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<v Speaker 1>the very high end. I think they're generally, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen to twenty feet and weigh about one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>fifty to two hundred pounds, whereas the males are only

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<v Speaker 1>about nine to ten feet and one hundred to one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and twenty pounds. Still a very large snake.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a giant snake still. And yeah, that thirty foot

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<v Speaker 2>one that's supposedly the record, although it's not obvious where

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<v Speaker 2>that came from, but supposedly the record anaconda is thirty

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<v Speaker 2>feet long and five hundred and fifty pounds. Right. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>that's not we don't know who said that originally, but

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<v Speaker 2>there was we know for a fact, a snake and

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<v Speaker 2>a green anaconda female that was about four hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>forty pounds and twenty feet long. So they do get giant.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean they are so big and you look up,

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<v Speaker 2>like go look up pictures and videos of green ana

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<v Speaker 2>condas and you'll be like, wow, it's a big snake.

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<v Speaker 2>And then see if you can find one next to

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<v Speaker 2>like a human or something for scale, and you will

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<v Speaker 2>just be blown away by how giant these things are.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like a banana. Also be wary because there are

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of fake pictures and videos of giant anacondas. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's just harder to tell these days. I saw

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<v Speaker 1>some video from like helicopters above a river where it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no way this thing is that big because they

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<v Speaker 1>were sixty feet long and as big around as a

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<v Speaker 1>basketball and they look really good.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but yeah, and they're hard to tell. Yeah. Like

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<v Speaker 2>you said, I saw one and it was curling around

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<v Speaker 2>this lion and I was like, wait a minute, these

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<v Speaker 2>things are only in South America and lions are not

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<v Speaker 2>in South America. That was the only way I like,

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<v Speaker 2>I had to stop and think about it, because it

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<v Speaker 2>looks so realistic.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, it's like, can you just.

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<v Speaker 2>Be amazed by the national world as it is? Like,

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<v Speaker 2>does everything have to be pushed to the extreme for

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<v Speaker 2>you to get your jolly's?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm with you, buddy, I had the same thought, So

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<v Speaker 1>I mentioned the yellows are smaller. They're nine to ten

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<v Speaker 1>pounds for the females, which are larger than the males

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<v Speaker 1>because they're only about six feet long, which is again

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<v Speaker 1>still a very big snake, and they can top one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred pounds. A yellow one can. Like all snakes, they

0:11:36.520 --> 0:11:39.880
<v Speaker 1>have intermediate growth, which means they're always growing. It slows

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<v Speaker 1>down in adulthood, but the snakes keep growing forever.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And there was one other dimension that we left out,

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<v Speaker 2>and that is those green anacondas can get to about

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<v Speaker 2>twelve inches or a third of a meter in diameter. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's an old thicky, is what they call that.

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<v Speaker 1>And how long do they live, Josh for.

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<v Speaker 2>A while, actually, in the in the wild, up to

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<v Speaker 2>twenty years on average, and then because the wild is

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<v Speaker 2>so much more dangerous than a cushy zoo, in captivity

0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:13.320
<v Speaker 2>they can live up to thirty years. They're just not

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<v Speaker 2>as happy as the ones in the wild. The ones

0:12:15.720 --> 0:12:18.040
<v Speaker 2>in a wild are like, live fast, die young, leave

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<v Speaker 2>a beautiful corpse. The ones in captivity are like, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna get soft, but I'll live to an old age.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. Just throw me a cappy, buyra in here

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<v Speaker 1>so I can have some lunch.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, They're like camping byron? Can can I get a

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<v Speaker 2>tep here?

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<v Speaker 1>They are apex predators, so nothing is gonna come after

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<v Speaker 1>the anacondah. They're just it's not gonna happen. They feed

0:12:39.800 --> 0:12:44.120
<v Speaker 1>on fish, they feed on reptiles. We mentioned mammals. They'll

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<v Speaker 1>eat a deer. They'll eat a cayman. Although I did

0:12:48.320 --> 0:12:50.840
<v Speaker 1>see a cayman stand off a Nana conda because I

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<v Speaker 1>think it was one of the smaller Randa condas, so

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<v Speaker 1>I got out of there.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the caymans are like the mini crocodiles.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, yeah, but they're they're still, you know, got some

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<v Speaker 1>size to them.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, sure, but I just want to make sure it's

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<v Speaker 2>thinking of the right animal totally.

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<v Speaker 1>And they kill things like you would think they're constrictors.

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<v Speaker 1>So they grab it, they grab it around the neck,

0:13:09.679 --> 0:13:13.800
<v Speaker 1>they coil that body and they squeeze it. And I

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<v Speaker 1>always heard that like, oh, they'll crush your internal organs

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<v Speaker 1>and your break your rib cage. They're really not doing that,

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<v Speaker 1>And this is kind of a cool little fact. What

0:13:20.840 --> 0:13:25.120
<v Speaker 1>they're doing is they're stopping the blood flow and you

0:13:25.240 --> 0:13:28.720
<v Speaker 1>end up having heart failure because or a stroke because

0:13:28.720 --> 0:13:30.640
<v Speaker 1>you have no blood reaching your brain or your heart,

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<v Speaker 1>and you lose consciousness. They can bite if you're smaller,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're generally going to constrict you to death.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And the reason that they don't break your bones

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<v Speaker 2>is because they don't want bones sticking out of your

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<v Speaker 2>body on the way down their gullet as they're digesting you,

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<v Speaker 2>So they use a little bit of finesse I think.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because they swallow you whole, you know, that's the idea.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why when you see constrictors with those big bulges,

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<v Speaker 1>that is like a pig or something.

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<v Speaker 2>It's probably John Boyd.

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<v Speaker 1>I wish it was, but we should say that they don't,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because they're eating such big things, they don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to eat very much. They can go months between

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<v Speaker 1>eating meals and it can take weeks and weeks for

0:14:13.080 --> 0:14:15.400
<v Speaker 1>them to digest. So they'll just sneak away to a

0:14:15.440 --> 0:14:17.959
<v Speaker 1>nice cool place and digest on the download for a

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<v Speaker 1>little while, and there was one reporter but captive anacona

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<v Speaker 1>that live for two years without eating.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, and they normally keep to themselves. They have their

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<v Speaker 2>own hunting territories, but most of the time they're like,

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<v Speaker 2>I just leave me alone. I'm just over here doing

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<v Speaker 2>my thing. Except they come together from April to May

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<v Speaker 2>during breeding season, and they're polyandrous, which means that a

0:14:41.120 --> 0:14:46.400
<v Speaker 2>single female will mate with multiple males, as opposed to polygamous,

0:14:46.760 --> 0:14:49.880
<v Speaker 2>which means a single male will mate with multiple females,

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<v Speaker 2>and they will mate in what's called the breeding ball.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you want to be unsettled to your core,

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<v Speaker 2>look up green and Aconda breeding ball.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, breed is the stuff of nightmares for sure. That's

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<v Speaker 1>like as many as thirteen snakes sometimes just having a

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<v Speaker 1>big old snake party with each other. That's not how

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<v Speaker 1>it always goes down, though, a lot of times the

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<v Speaker 1>females will spend an entire mating season with just one dude.

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<v Speaker 1>But that dude may be lunch after they're impregnated, because

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<v Speaker 1>the female may just eat that male because they've just

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<v Speaker 1>gotten pregnant and they need to bed down for seven

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<v Speaker 1>months without eating again. So ts for you, pal.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's something in the animal kingdom called sexual cannibalism. Yeah,

0:15:34.400 --> 0:15:38.040
<v Speaker 2>sexual cannibals is maybe the greatest band name we've run

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<v Speaker 2>across so far.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they open for the fine young cannibals.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly. And I just one other thing about that.

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<v Speaker 2>I read some species of males will sacrifice themselves to

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<v Speaker 2>be cannibalized after mating. And there was a study of

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<v Speaker 2>fisher spiders or dark fish or spiders something like that

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<v Speaker 2>where they found that after the female eats the male,

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<v Speaker 2>she has more success like healthier offspring and more offspring

0:16:05.520 --> 0:16:08.480
<v Speaker 2>when she eats the male than if she immediately ate

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<v Speaker 2>an alternative prey like a cricket or something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's something involved in that exchange that helps reproduction

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<v Speaker 2>and natural selection go full steam ahead, I guess. And

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<v Speaker 2>whatever species says.

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<v Speaker 1>That, Wow, that's super interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought so too.

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<v Speaker 1>They mate, the green ones, that is, mate every other

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<v Speaker 1>year because it's a lot. I think we could admit

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<v Speaker 1>that that big sex ball that they formed sometimes for weeks, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and just you know, the seven month pregnancy and they're

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<v Speaker 1>not eating. It's just a lot. So they do this

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<v Speaker 1>every other year. Greens have about thirty babies at a time.

0:16:43.640 --> 0:16:46.600
<v Speaker 1>Yellow ones have about forty, but there is at least

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<v Speaker 1>one verified case of a green and a conda having

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<v Speaker 1>eighty two baby.

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<v Speaker 2>And aconda snakes, yeah that's I mean that poor snake. Yeah,

0:16:56.120 --> 0:16:59.880
<v Speaker 2>it's like my ache and back. They have live births too.

0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:03.040
<v Speaker 2>They're viviparous rather than oviparis. They don't lay eggs like

0:17:03.080 --> 0:17:07.360
<v Speaker 2>some kinds of snakes. And regardless however the baby comes out,

0:17:07.400 --> 0:17:10.720
<v Speaker 2>they don't do any parenting. They're just done. They have

0:17:10.800 --> 0:17:13.520
<v Speaker 2>their babies and they just slither off and the babies

0:17:13.520 --> 0:17:16.639
<v Speaker 2>are on their own immediately and they just start swimming

0:17:16.680 --> 0:17:20.000
<v Speaker 2>around and eating whatever is in the area. And then

0:17:20.280 --> 0:17:22.840
<v Speaker 2>after three or four years they get into their own

0:17:22.880 --> 0:17:26.720
<v Speaker 2>breeding ball situations and the circle of life just keeps

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<v Speaker 2>continuing on.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and those babies are a couple of feet long,

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<v Speaker 1>and that feels like a pretty good place to break. Yeah. Yeah,

0:17:37.320 --> 0:17:39.879
<v Speaker 1>I don't know why I said ya as opposed to nay.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll be right back, so, chuck. There are different species

0:18:06.680 --> 0:18:10.000
<v Speaker 2>of anaconda's and one of the things that's extremely interesting

0:18:10.000 --> 0:18:13.879
<v Speaker 2>about this that I guess the taxonomy of anacondas is

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<v Speaker 2>that very recently they've shaken things up. I mean, if

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<v Speaker 2>you're a herpetologist, this is one of the most exciting

0:18:19.960 --> 0:18:21.840
<v Speaker 2>things in your field to come along in a really

0:18:21.880 --> 0:18:25.720
<v Speaker 2>long time. I'm guessing yeah, I bet you're right. So originally,

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<v Speaker 2>up until very recently, scientists divided anacondas into four species.

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<v Speaker 2>There was the green anticonda Eunectes marinus, which we talked

0:18:36.320 --> 0:18:42.679
<v Speaker 2>about basically this whole time, yellow anaconda Eunectes notaeus, the

0:18:42.800 --> 0:18:46.159
<v Speaker 2>benny doesn't even it's not even called an anaconda, that's

0:18:46.200 --> 0:18:50.359
<v Speaker 2>how odd it is. That's Eunctes beniensis. And then the

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<v Speaker 2>dark spotted anacona anaconda, which is Eunectes deshausen seal deshow

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<v Speaker 2>and seal? Did I say that right, mister German pronunciation? Guy?

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<v Speaker 1>I think that is an eye at the end and

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<v Speaker 1>on an.

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<v Speaker 2>L des showing see.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that is exactly right. It's definitely a German word.

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<v Speaker 2>So those four species are the ones that they've they've

0:19:14.600 --> 0:19:18.680
<v Speaker 2>considered anti condas since time immemorial. But within the last

0:19:18.800 --> 0:19:20.800
<v Speaker 2>year or so they're like, this is all wrong. We

0:19:20.880 --> 0:19:25.040
<v Speaker 2>need to reconfigure stuff into like a new breeding ball

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<v Speaker 2>of species of anaconda.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there was a paper, as Emily likes to say,

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<v Speaker 1>probably a white paper from last year, where an international

0:19:36.200 --> 0:19:40.320
<v Speaker 1>team of scientists got together. They had probably the leading

0:19:40.320 --> 0:19:44.879
<v Speaker 1>anaconda expert in the world, Jesus Revas of New Mexico

0:19:44.960 --> 0:19:47.560
<v Speaker 1>Highlands University, and they got together and said, guys, I

0:19:47.560 --> 0:19:49.600
<v Speaker 1>think we gotta we gotta dig in a little deeper.

0:19:49.640 --> 0:19:52.120
<v Speaker 1>We're being a little lazy, and we got to rename

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<v Speaker 1>these reclassify these these snakes. We're gonna split these green

0:19:57.280 --> 0:20:00.760
<v Speaker 1>anacondas into two species, and we're gonna combined the other

0:20:00.800 --> 0:20:04.760
<v Speaker 1>three into one. And Will Smith somehow has something to

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<v Speaker 1>do with this.

0:20:05.680 --> 0:20:09.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, interestingly, So they've studied anacondas for decades and decades

0:20:09.440 --> 0:20:11.600
<v Speaker 2>to try to figure out the taxonomy is correct, because

0:20:11.840 --> 0:20:14.440
<v Speaker 2>I mean, when LINEA started taxonomy, it was all based

0:20:14.440 --> 0:20:16.439
<v Speaker 2>on like, this thing looks like this thing, And as

0:20:16.480 --> 0:20:18.960
<v Speaker 2>we've gotten better at genetic analysis, we've been like, well,

0:20:18.960 --> 0:20:21.480
<v Speaker 2>just because it looks like it, actually they're not very

0:20:21.560 --> 0:20:25.520
<v Speaker 2>related at all. That's been the case with anaconda's. But

0:20:25.640 --> 0:20:29.439
<v Speaker 2>a big chunk of the work that's been done, the

0:20:29.480 --> 0:20:32.160
<v Speaker 2>research that's been done that led to this was done

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<v Speaker 2>through a National Geographic Show poll to poll with Will Smith. Yeah,

0:20:37.200 --> 0:20:40.439
<v Speaker 2>there is apparently at least one episode where one of

0:20:40.440 --> 0:20:43.000
<v Speaker 2>the leaders of the way Irani people, his name was

0:20:43.040 --> 0:20:47.240
<v Speaker 2>Pente Behua, he said, Hey, Will Smith, why don't you

0:20:47.280 --> 0:20:50.280
<v Speaker 2>guys come to Ecuador and we'll hang out in the

0:20:50.320 --> 0:20:54.840
<v Speaker 2>Amazon and we'll lead you around and show you anacondas

0:20:54.840 --> 0:20:57.080
<v Speaker 2>and you guys can capture them and test them and

0:20:57.400 --> 0:21:00.760
<v Speaker 2>release them back. And that's exactly what happened. And from

0:21:00.800 --> 0:21:03.320
<v Speaker 2>that they took all sorts of blood samples and tissue

0:21:03.320 --> 0:21:06.040
<v Speaker 2>samples and did it genetic analysis and they're like, we

0:21:06.359 --> 0:21:07.399
<v Speaker 2>got this way wrong.

0:21:08.080 --> 0:21:10.879
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And Will Smith said, what did the five fingers

0:21:10.920 --> 0:21:11.639
<v Speaker 1>say to the face?

0:21:12.040 --> 0:21:14.919
<v Speaker 2>I know, man, that's that is gonna be tough for

0:21:15.000 --> 0:21:16.359
<v Speaker 2>him to ever live down.

0:21:17.119 --> 0:21:19.840
<v Speaker 1>It's because it's one of the weirdest public things that's

0:21:19.880 --> 0:21:22.040
<v Speaker 1>ever happened, televised things it's ever happened.

0:21:22.119 --> 0:21:22.919
<v Speaker 2>It was weird.

0:21:23.160 --> 0:21:25.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's still mind boggling to think about. And I

0:21:25.359 --> 0:21:27.639
<v Speaker 1>remember seeing it live just being like what did I

0:21:27.720 --> 0:21:28.080
<v Speaker 1>just see?

0:21:28.160 --> 0:21:30.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? No, same here. I'm pretty sure I saw it

0:21:30.640 --> 0:21:33.359
<v Speaker 2>live and not a replay, but it was. But also

0:21:33.440 --> 0:21:35.479
<v Speaker 2>the violence of it, I think is what it's going

0:21:35.560 --> 0:21:36.919
<v Speaker 2>to make it so hard to live down. It was

0:21:37.000 --> 0:21:41.240
<v Speaker 2>just an ugly, ugly thing. It really was crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man, so strange. So they did some research and

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<v Speaker 1>again you said that, you know, once we sort of

0:21:48.320 --> 0:21:50.360
<v Speaker 1>get into the genetics, just because something looks like something

0:21:50.400 --> 0:21:52.960
<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean much. So they did that. They got into

0:21:53.040 --> 0:21:58.080
<v Speaker 1>the genetics of these snakes, and they found that the

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<v Speaker 1>two green anaconda types, because you know they reclassified, were

0:22:03.280 --> 0:22:06.840
<v Speaker 1>split up. They were they diverged because of probably plate

0:22:06.880 --> 0:22:10.679
<v Speaker 1>tectonic activity about ten million years ago, when plates smashed

0:22:10.680 --> 0:22:13.320
<v Speaker 1>together and created a big like ridge or a mountain range,

0:22:13.359 --> 0:22:15.359
<v Speaker 1>and all of a sudden, it's like the Berlin Wall,

0:22:15.920 --> 0:22:18.080
<v Speaker 1>and they were split up. And they look a lot

0:22:18.119 --> 0:22:19.800
<v Speaker 1>alike if you look like them, like you were saying,

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<v Speaker 1>but their genomes differ by about five and a half percent,

0:22:23.240 --> 0:22:24.679
<v Speaker 1>which is a lot genetically.

0:22:25.000 --> 0:22:27.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, humans and chimps are separated by about two percent,

0:22:27.560 --> 0:22:30.399
<v Speaker 2>and these are identical looking snakes, so they are definitely

0:22:30.440 --> 0:22:33.119
<v Speaker 2>different species. And it just goes to show you, like

0:22:33.160 --> 0:22:39.480
<v Speaker 2>how species put into very similar habitats a long time ago,

0:22:39.840 --> 0:22:43.080
<v Speaker 2>that those small changes that spread out and out and

0:22:43.119 --> 0:22:46.480
<v Speaker 2>out over millions of years can have huge sweeping effects

0:22:46.480 --> 0:22:50.919
<v Speaker 2>that their genomes could be divergent by five percent just

0:22:51.000 --> 0:22:53.240
<v Speaker 2>over that time, which is the basis of chaos theory.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh really Yeah, the little tiny changes inputs early on

0:22:58.560 --> 0:23:01.840
<v Speaker 2>over a long enough span of time, completely different things

0:23:02.160 --> 0:23:04.160
<v Speaker 2>over long spans of time.

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<v Speaker 1>You should say that all as Jeff Goldbloom.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't. I wish I could do a Jeff Goldbloom. Yeah,

0:23:11.520 --> 0:23:13.960
<v Speaker 2>that would be amazing. I saw him once in person

0:23:14.000 --> 0:23:17.639
<v Speaker 2>outside of the What's the place we always stayed for

0:23:17.720 --> 0:23:18.359
<v Speaker 2>sketch fiest.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw him outside the hotel too. He was there

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<v Speaker 1>the same time, and I was at one point even

0:23:23.280 --> 0:23:25.439
<v Speaker 1>in a little circular group with friends, I knew that

0:23:25.560 --> 0:23:28.359
<v Speaker 1>knew him, and I just stayed quiet and tried to

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<v Speaker 1>just be among Jeff Goldbloom.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like we talked about this at the San

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<v Speaker 2>Francisco show.

0:23:34.119 --> 0:23:37.000
<v Speaker 1>I think so. And my takeaway just from being near

0:23:37.080 --> 0:23:40.320
<v Speaker 1>him is that boy, he was a charming, lovely guy

0:23:40.400 --> 0:23:43.320
<v Speaker 1>that seemed like he wanted every interaction with the person

0:23:43.359 --> 0:23:45.679
<v Speaker 1>to leave thinking like, what a great dude that guy is.

0:23:45.800 --> 0:23:50.560
<v Speaker 2>Andy smells like a million dollars, a million bucks. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I wish I could do a Jeff Goldblum too, I

0:23:52.240 --> 0:23:53.200
<v Speaker 2>guess is what I'm trying.

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<v Speaker 1>To say, so we should mention the range quickly before

0:23:57.280 --> 0:24:03.320
<v Speaker 1>we probably break again. The greens obviously almost all of

0:24:03.359 --> 0:24:07.520
<v Speaker 1>Brazil and other parts of South America east of the

0:24:07.520 --> 0:24:11.479
<v Speaker 1>Andes up the northern Venezuela coast. You can find them

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<v Speaker 1>as far south as Paraguay, and interestingly, also maybe unlucky

0:24:16.200 --> 0:24:18.240
<v Speaker 1>for them, on the Caribbean island of Trinidad.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, okay, now here's where the salt tolerance thing comes up.

0:24:22.320 --> 0:24:24.560
<v Speaker 2>I could not figure out if you look at a map,

0:24:24.640 --> 0:24:29.160
<v Speaker 2>Trinidad is there's a part of Venezuela that's no more

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<v Speaker 2>than ten miles away from Trinidad and Tobago, the islands

0:24:33.600 --> 0:24:37.720
<v Speaker 2>right off of Venezuela. So these things can swim and

0:24:37.800 --> 0:24:39.800
<v Speaker 2>hold their breath for ten minutes. I was like, how

0:24:39.840 --> 0:24:42.480
<v Speaker 2>did they get to Trinidad? Did they swim? I still

0:24:42.520 --> 0:24:44.720
<v Speaker 2>have no idea how they got to Trinidad. It had

0:24:44.760 --> 0:24:48.200
<v Speaker 2>to have been, you know, at a point in time

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<v Speaker 2>when Trinidad was still fused to maybe to South America

0:24:52.400 --> 0:24:54.439
<v Speaker 2>or like maybe the sea levels were lower so there

0:24:54.480 --> 0:24:56.919
<v Speaker 2>was a land bridge. I don't know, but that's how

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<v Speaker 2>I found out that they're not salt tolerant they're only

0:25:00.200 --> 0:25:04.520
<v Speaker 2>freshwater snakes, because no, they couldn't have swam to Trinidad.

0:25:04.560 --> 0:25:05.320
<v Speaker 2>That's the answer to.

0:25:05.359 --> 0:25:08.840
<v Speaker 1>That, even if they vaselined up and wore the the

0:25:08.880 --> 0:25:11.440
<v Speaker 1>goggles and the skull cap.

0:25:12.080 --> 0:25:13.560
<v Speaker 2>And the bike shorts.

0:25:14.119 --> 0:25:16.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh yeah, they were bike shorts these days.

0:25:16.400 --> 0:25:19.160
<v Speaker 2>What was it that Pee Wee Herman thing in Pee

0:25:19.200 --> 0:25:21.800
<v Speaker 2>Wee's Big Adventure? He said, oh, yeah, he's talking about

0:25:21.840 --> 0:25:23.679
<v Speaker 2>blowing your mind. He's like, have you ever seen a

0:25:23.960 --> 0:25:28.119
<v Speaker 2>snake wear a vest? You remember that part? That's Youmi's

0:25:28.119 --> 0:25:29.159
<v Speaker 2>favorite part in the entire.

0:25:29.200 --> 0:25:31.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember that part. That's funny. I thought I

0:25:31.119 --> 0:25:33.760
<v Speaker 1>knew that movie inside out. That's very funny. I've not

0:25:33.800 --> 0:25:35.720
<v Speaker 1>seen that documentary yet on Pee Wee Herman. I heard

0:25:35.720 --> 0:25:37.120
<v Speaker 1>it's really really good, though.

0:25:36.960 --> 0:25:38.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we just watched it. It is very good.

0:25:39.040 --> 0:25:39.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:25:39.280 --> 0:25:42.119
<v Speaker 2>There's also one we're watching called Chimp Crazy by the

0:25:42.119 --> 0:25:43.360
<v Speaker 2>guy who did Tiger.

0:25:43.119 --> 0:25:44.920
<v Speaker 1>King No No thanks.

0:25:45.119 --> 0:25:48.040
<v Speaker 2>It's it's not as hard to watch as you would think.

0:25:48.080 --> 0:25:51.600
<v Speaker 2>It's more human interest stuff, but yeah, I mean there's

0:25:51.640 --> 0:25:55.760
<v Speaker 2>still it's weird because you it's you empathize with both sides.

0:25:56.119 --> 0:25:57.800
<v Speaker 2>It's one of those documentaries.

0:25:58.359 --> 0:26:00.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm one of the few people that didn't any interest

0:26:00.720 --> 0:26:03.680
<v Speaker 1>or watch tiger Was it Tiger What Tiger King?

0:26:04.040 --> 0:26:06.640
<v Speaker 2>You kind of missed out? Man? That was something?

0:26:07.520 --> 0:26:08.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't feel like it did.

0:26:08.960 --> 0:26:11.760
<v Speaker 2>Okay, well then yeah you might not like Chimp Crazy

0:26:11.800 --> 0:26:13.600
<v Speaker 2>then if you didn't want to watch Tiger King.

0:26:14.200 --> 0:26:17.359
<v Speaker 1>All right, shall we take that break? Yes, all right,

0:26:17.400 --> 0:26:20.000
<v Speaker 1>we'll be back and talk about human interactions with anacondas

0:26:20.080 --> 0:26:46.199
<v Speaker 1>right after this. So we mentioned that you're probably not

0:26:46.400 --> 0:26:50.000
<v Speaker 1>in danger around in anaconda. I don't know if i'd

0:26:50.000 --> 0:26:52.440
<v Speaker 1>go like partying with one, but you know, we said

0:26:52.440 --> 0:26:54.520
<v Speaker 1>they may eat like every couple of months. So if

0:26:54.520 --> 0:26:57.240
<v Speaker 1>you know for a fact that anaconda has eaten something,

0:26:57.560 --> 0:26:59.680
<v Speaker 1>those are probably the videos you're seeing on the internet.

0:26:59.680 --> 0:27:03.640
<v Speaker 1>When they're people like, you know, doing like documentary work

0:27:03.640 --> 0:27:05.760
<v Speaker 1>on anacondas, they probably know that that thing is eaten.

0:27:06.000 --> 0:27:08.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Interestingly, there was a study that found that humans

0:27:09.119 --> 0:27:13.840
<v Speaker 2>who live around anaconas see a full anaconda as far

0:27:13.920 --> 0:27:16.760
<v Speaker 2>less threatening than one that doesn't have a big pot belly.

0:27:17.359 --> 0:27:20.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I would say, so it makes sense. There was

0:27:20.480 --> 0:27:22.480
<v Speaker 1>a book that I don't even know if we should mention,

0:27:22.560 --> 0:27:25.000
<v Speaker 1>but a book from the fifties called Giant Snake Hunt

0:27:25.080 --> 0:27:28.399
<v Speaker 1>by a guy named Ralph Blomberg who claimed two definite

0:27:28.440 --> 0:27:30.760
<v Speaker 1>cases of people being killed by snakes. But I think

0:27:30.800 --> 0:27:34.960
<v Speaker 1>that book is probably not accurate, is my guess. There

0:27:35.040 --> 0:27:39.919
<v Speaker 1>is a video that I watched from Terra Santa, Brazil

0:27:40.480 --> 0:27:42.360
<v Speaker 1>that has a guy I'm sure you watch this too,

0:27:42.359 --> 0:27:45.399
<v Speaker 1>and anaconda standing or the guy was standing rather in

0:27:45.440 --> 0:27:47.879
<v Speaker 1>like chest deep water in a river in Brazil, and

0:27:47.960 --> 0:27:50.639
<v Speaker 1>anaconda was wrapped around him, and that his buddies up

0:27:50.880 --> 0:27:52.399
<v Speaker 1>on the boat were trying to get it off, and

0:27:52.480 --> 0:27:56.359
<v Speaker 1>he bit this snake near its head and the snake

0:27:56.440 --> 0:27:58.520
<v Speaker 1>released it and they got this guy out of there.

0:27:58.600 --> 0:28:01.520
<v Speaker 2>It was weird. If you listen close, his bite made

0:28:01.600 --> 0:28:04.560
<v Speaker 2>the same sound that Fred Flintstone makes when he bites

0:28:04.600 --> 0:28:08.679
<v Speaker 2>into something. That trump sound. I was really surprised.

0:28:09.400 --> 0:28:10.360
<v Speaker 1>It was very surprising.

0:28:11.200 --> 0:28:15.680
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, this is the that's really really rare that

0:28:15.680 --> 0:28:18.800
<v Speaker 2>that happens. And the guy was able to escape unharmed.

0:28:19.440 --> 0:28:21.760
<v Speaker 2>The point is as if if an ana konda wanted

0:28:21.800 --> 0:28:24.760
<v Speaker 2>to take you on, like you would be in big trouble.

0:28:25.080 --> 0:28:25.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:28:25.359 --> 0:28:27.680
<v Speaker 2>Sure. It turns out that there are some people who

0:28:27.720 --> 0:28:30.480
<v Speaker 2>want an anaconda to take them on. There's a guy

0:28:30.560 --> 0:28:34.680
<v Speaker 2>named Paul Rizzoli, who, for all intents and purposes, his

0:28:34.840 --> 0:28:37.840
<v Speaker 2>chainsaw from summer school. Did you look this up and

0:28:37.840 --> 0:28:38.280
<v Speaker 2>see him?

0:28:39.040 --> 0:28:41.080
<v Speaker 1>I did, and I remember when this happened.

0:28:41.600 --> 0:28:44.680
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So Discovery Channel had a two hour special called

0:28:44.680 --> 0:28:48.240
<v Speaker 2>Eating Alive, wherein Paul Rissoli was out looking for a

0:28:48.280 --> 0:28:52.960
<v Speaker 2>giant anaconda to eat him and it was just pulse

0:28:53.000 --> 0:28:55.880
<v Speaker 2>pounding from the beginning to the last moment from what

0:28:55.960 --> 0:28:57.239
<v Speaker 2>I understand.

0:28:57.280 --> 0:29:00.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he don't remember this. Oh boy. It was a

0:29:00.640 --> 0:29:04.040
<v Speaker 1>media disaster and I would like to think a low

0:29:04.080 --> 0:29:08.600
<v Speaker 1>point for Discovery Channel. But they made a carbon fiber

0:29:08.640 --> 0:29:12.160
<v Speaker 1>suit that he wore and he drenched himself in pig's blood.

0:29:13.320 --> 0:29:15.480
<v Speaker 1>And what he claimed was like, oh, I want to

0:29:15.480 --> 0:29:18.880
<v Speaker 1>bring awareness to the loss of habitats, you know, for

0:29:18.960 --> 0:29:21.640
<v Speaker 1>these snakes. But close to forty thousand people signed a

0:29:21.680 --> 0:29:25.280
<v Speaker 1>petition beforehand calling it animal abuse, saying you can't do

0:29:25.320 --> 0:29:28.920
<v Speaker 1>a show like this. The show itself was a disaster,

0:29:29.080 --> 0:29:34.080
<v Speaker 1>sort of a Heraldo digging for who is it Jimmy

0:29:34.120 --> 0:29:34.880
<v Speaker 1>Hawth or was it?

0:29:35.520 --> 0:29:38.120
<v Speaker 2>I don't know about Haffa. I know that he found

0:29:38.160 --> 0:29:39.200
<v Speaker 2>al Capone's vault.

0:29:39.520 --> 0:29:42.720
<v Speaker 1>Al Capone that was it that had nothing basically in it,

0:29:43.120 --> 0:29:44.760
<v Speaker 1>and that was kind of the deal here, where almost

0:29:44.800 --> 0:29:47.040
<v Speaker 1>all of the show is just prep In the last

0:29:47.080 --> 0:29:52.080
<v Speaker 1>fifteen minutes, this snake, this poor snake being exploited, tries

0:29:52.120 --> 0:29:54.360
<v Speaker 1>to bite him on the head and starts constricting him

0:29:54.360 --> 0:29:56.960
<v Speaker 1>and he's like, oh, oh my arm and he taps out,

0:29:57.000 --> 0:29:57.520
<v Speaker 1>and that was it.

0:29:57.600 --> 0:29:59.880
<v Speaker 2>Right. So, I think the rule of thumb here, Chuck,

0:29:59.920 --> 0:30:04.280
<v Speaker 2>is if you are in another animal's habitat messing with

0:30:04.360 --> 0:30:06.680
<v Speaker 2>it and there's a TV camera on you, you are

0:30:06.760 --> 0:30:10.680
<v Speaker 2>in the wrong. There is no exception to that. Agreed.

0:30:10.760 --> 0:30:13.320
<v Speaker 2>You are going into their house and messing with them

0:30:13.800 --> 0:30:17.360
<v Speaker 2>for your own benefit, and that's just wrong. It's wrong,

0:30:17.520 --> 0:30:18.440
<v Speaker 2>and don't do it.

0:30:19.120 --> 0:30:19.479
<v Speaker 1>Agreed.

0:30:19.920 --> 0:30:21.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's all I have to say about that.

0:30:21.760 --> 0:30:23.520
<v Speaker 1>I think we should mention a couple of these tweets though,

0:30:23.520 --> 0:30:24.560
<v Speaker 1>because they're pretty funny.

0:30:24.600 --> 0:30:27.920
<v Speaker 2>Totally. There was one person who said that they called

0:30:27.960 --> 0:30:31.480
<v Speaker 2>it eaten Alive because getting squeezed really hard didn't sound

0:30:31.480 --> 0:30:34.000
<v Speaker 2>as enticing. That's a good one.

0:30:34.720 --> 0:30:37.960
<v Speaker 1>Another one someone said, calling it hashtag eating the Lime

0:30:38.080 --> 0:30:39.800
<v Speaker 1>is like having a show on the Food Network about

0:30:39.800 --> 0:30:41.800
<v Speaker 1>cooking a turkey and all they do after two hours

0:30:41.840 --> 0:30:46.200
<v Speaker 1>is pre eat the oven good stuff roasted.

0:30:46.360 --> 0:30:49.040
<v Speaker 2>I don't remember it at all, and I don't remember

0:30:49.080 --> 0:30:51.240
<v Speaker 2>it being a disaster, but I could see that.

0:30:52.280 --> 0:30:55.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, as far as human interaction, you know, humans are

0:30:55.960 --> 0:30:59.200
<v Speaker 1>probably a bigger threat. Not probably, humans are a bigger

0:30:59.240 --> 0:31:00.920
<v Speaker 1>threat to anacon than they are to them.

0:31:01.000 --> 0:31:01.480
<v Speaker 2>Definitely.

0:31:03.000 --> 0:31:05.440
<v Speaker 1>A lot of times it will be preemptively killed in

0:31:05.480 --> 0:31:09.960
<v Speaker 1>a small community because of fear of like small kids

0:31:09.960 --> 0:31:12.040
<v Speaker 1>maybe a little bit more of a threat, or a

0:31:12.080 --> 0:31:16.280
<v Speaker 1>small elderly person perhaps, or your livestock. A lot of

0:31:16.320 --> 0:31:20.160
<v Speaker 1>times they'll describe this as retaliatory killing because they they

0:31:20.320 --> 0:31:21.880
<v Speaker 1>ate my prize year, so I'm going to kill it.

0:31:21.920 --> 0:31:24.240
<v Speaker 1>But they did at an actual study in Brazil in

0:31:24.280 --> 0:31:26.800
<v Speaker 1>twenty fifteen and they found it it's probably more of

0:31:26.800 --> 0:31:29.440
<v Speaker 1>a preemptive fear to keep them from doing something like that.

0:31:29.560 --> 0:31:33.160
<v Speaker 2>Right, And based on your Human Development Index score, which

0:31:33.200 --> 0:31:38.240
<v Speaker 2>is a rating of education level and standard of living

0:31:38.360 --> 0:31:41.800
<v Speaker 2>and income for an area, the lower that score, the

0:31:41.840 --> 0:31:45.560
<v Speaker 2>more likely you are to kill in anaconda. I feel

0:31:45.560 --> 0:31:48.080
<v Speaker 2>like that's a little bit slanted, because I feel like

0:31:48.840 --> 0:31:52.400
<v Speaker 2>people with high Human Development Index scores probably don't live

0:31:52.760 --> 0:31:55.760
<v Speaker 2>with anacondas in their yard, So I think that's a

0:31:55.800 --> 0:31:59.120
<v Speaker 2>little bit skewed. But I get the gist that you know,

0:31:59.200 --> 0:32:04.120
<v Speaker 2>the more you're educated about, say, animals, the less likely

0:32:04.160 --> 0:32:05.480
<v Speaker 2>you are to hurt them.

0:32:05.800 --> 0:32:06.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:32:06.040 --> 0:32:10.080
<v Speaker 2>At the same time, the more educated you are, probably

0:32:10.080 --> 0:32:12.960
<v Speaker 2>the more removed you are from animals. So it's hard

0:32:12.960 --> 0:32:17.120
<v Speaker 2>to fault people who literally live among anacondas or other

0:32:17.160 --> 0:32:19.280
<v Speaker 2>things that they perceive as a threat killing them, even

0:32:19.320 --> 0:32:24.080
<v Speaker 2>though to US and the developed world or the global

0:32:24.120 --> 0:32:27.760
<v Speaker 2>North it seems just abhorrent. We don't have to deal

0:32:27.840 --> 0:32:30.160
<v Speaker 2>with that. So it's there's a certain amount of judgment

0:32:30.200 --> 0:32:32.760
<v Speaker 2>that you have to take perspective on either way. I

0:32:32.800 --> 0:32:34.920
<v Speaker 2>wish that no one would kill an anti conda, especially

0:32:34.920 --> 0:32:38.920
<v Speaker 2>if they leave humans alone. But I can't also put

0:32:38.920 --> 0:32:41.400
<v Speaker 2>myself in the shoes of the people who live among them,

0:32:41.480 --> 0:32:45.120
<v Speaker 2>I guess, is what I'm saying. Yeah, well said, I'm

0:32:45.120 --> 0:32:46.880
<v Speaker 2>glad you said that, because I'm out of breath.

0:32:47.200 --> 0:32:51.680
<v Speaker 1>No, that's great. Yeah, Obviously, a loss of habitat is

0:32:51.720 --> 0:32:55.440
<v Speaker 1>a problem for everything in South America, draining of wetlands

0:32:55.440 --> 0:32:58.680
<v Speaker 1>for agricultural use and just you know, clear cutting of

0:32:58.800 --> 0:33:02.760
<v Speaker 1>rainforests and things like that. Despite all this, UH, they're

0:33:02.760 --> 0:33:06.080
<v Speaker 1>in pretty good shape. The International Union for Conservation of

0:33:06.160 --> 0:33:11.320
<v Speaker 1>Nature and Natural Resources classified UH or they're currently classified

0:33:11.360 --> 0:33:13.080
<v Speaker 1>as of least concern.

0:33:14.400 --> 0:33:15.200
<v Speaker 2>That was surprising.

0:33:15.800 --> 0:33:19.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean they're they're they're doing pretty good. You

0:33:19.440 --> 0:33:21.960
<v Speaker 1>might wonder about, like, well, what about these things, like

0:33:22.000 --> 0:33:23.440
<v Speaker 1>if people bring them over and all of a sudden

0:33:23.440 --> 0:33:26.320
<v Speaker 1>they're in the swamps of Florida. Uh, there are some

0:33:26.440 --> 0:33:30.040
<v Speaker 1>anacondas in Florida, but it's generally not a problem. The

0:33:30.080 --> 0:33:33.120
<v Speaker 1>Burmese python is, you know, very much on record as

0:33:33.160 --> 0:33:36.880
<v Speaker 1>being a much much bigger problem. But regardless, Florida has

0:33:36.920 --> 0:33:42.400
<v Speaker 1>a complete ban on anaconda's and they are prohibited as pets.

0:33:42.440 --> 0:33:45.200
<v Speaker 2>They said, don't even don't even think about it. We're Florida.

0:33:45.440 --> 0:33:47.480
<v Speaker 2>We'll we'll find you. We'll hunt you down and find

0:33:47.520 --> 0:33:49.920
<v Speaker 2>you if you release an anaconda here. One of the

0:33:49.960 --> 0:33:53.440
<v Speaker 2>reasons why they're they're not a big problem as an

0:33:53.480 --> 0:33:56.920
<v Speaker 2>invasive species is because they're really hard to keep as pets,

0:33:57.080 --> 0:34:03.080
<v Speaker 2>like you essentially need like a a zoo exhibit size place.

0:34:04.040 --> 0:34:07.080
<v Speaker 2>There's a word in there somewhere that I'm missing to

0:34:07.640 --> 0:34:10.840
<v Speaker 2>keep an anaconda like at your home. Most people can't

0:34:10.880 --> 0:34:13.399
<v Speaker 2>do that. So there's not a lot of pet ana

0:34:13.480 --> 0:34:15.960
<v Speaker 2>condas anywhere that could be released in the first place.

0:34:16.520 --> 0:34:18.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So we're going to finish up with a little

0:34:18.480 --> 0:34:21.759
<v Speaker 1>bit on some of the more famous ana condas, first

0:34:21.760 --> 0:34:24.480
<v Speaker 1>of which has got to be Ana Julia. This is

0:34:24.520 --> 0:34:28.240
<v Speaker 1>a twenty footer, four hundred and forty pound female, obviously green,

0:34:29.040 --> 0:34:31.880
<v Speaker 1>and probably the most famous anaconda that lived in the

0:34:31.880 --> 0:34:35.440
<v Speaker 1>Foremosa River or near Benito, Brazil, because there's a lot

0:34:35.440 --> 0:34:40.360
<v Speaker 1>of ecotourism there and Anna Julia was just present a lot.

0:34:40.440 --> 0:34:44.160
<v Speaker 1>And the water there in the river around Benito's is

0:34:44.200 --> 0:34:46.240
<v Speaker 1>pretty clear as far as that kind of water goes,

0:34:46.640 --> 0:34:50.000
<v Speaker 1>and Anna Julia was not aggressive, so she was like, Hey,

0:34:50.080 --> 0:34:52.000
<v Speaker 1>if you want to make a documentary about me, I'm

0:34:52.080 --> 0:34:53.000
<v Speaker 1>right here, let's do it.

0:34:53.000 --> 0:34:54.680
<v Speaker 2>Come on in the water's fine.

0:34:54.880 --> 0:34:56.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, or maybe you don't come on in the water.

0:34:57.560 --> 0:35:00.800
<v Speaker 2>So there's a yeah. Well there's actually from that study

0:35:00.840 --> 0:35:03.880
<v Speaker 2>that pulled the pole national geographic thing that contributed to

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<v Speaker 2>a huge study that changed the species arrangement, the taxonomy.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the biologists involved in that, there's a video

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<v Speaker 2>of him swimming alongside Anna Julia and she's totally underwater,

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<v Speaker 2>just swimming along and does not seem at all bothered

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<v Speaker 2>by his presence. I mean, he's not like trying to

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<v Speaker 2>ride or anything like that. He's not putting any on her.

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<v Speaker 1>Was he the one wearing the freaking dress shirt?

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<v Speaker 2>I think so. Yeah, he was not dressed for snorkeling

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<v Speaker 2>or swimming.

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<v Speaker 1>It was very weird. Well, and I immediately went to

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<v Speaker 1>the comments. I'm like, surely I'm not the only one

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<v Speaker 1>that is noticing this, And of course everyone is like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I see the guy dressed, you know, formal for the occasion,

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<v Speaker 1>and everyone's talking about this guy wearing I mean, it

0:35:45.440 --> 0:35:49.360
<v Speaker 1>may be one of those weird sort of moisture wicking

0:35:49.960 --> 0:35:53.120
<v Speaker 1>all weather outdoor shirts that just is a button up.

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<v Speaker 1>But why swimming in a button up?

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<v Speaker 2>I get the impression that he's Dutch.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, that explained it.

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<v Speaker 2>So what's sad about it, though, is that Anna Julia

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<v Speaker 2>was found dead just a few weeks after this research

0:36:08.480 --> 0:36:10.799
<v Speaker 2>that she was a huge part of, like because she

0:36:10.880 --> 0:36:13.799
<v Speaker 2>was so docile, they were able to closely study and

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<v Speaker 2>observe her, and she contributed greatly to our understanding of

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<v Speaker 2>Ana Conda's and she died like five weeks after that

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<v Speaker 2>research was published, that big twenty twenty four paper, And

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<v Speaker 2>of course everybody's like, somebody like, who shot Anna Julia.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like a murder mystery that Netflix quickly made

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<v Speaker 2>a ten part series about. And it turns out that

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<v Speaker 2>she died of natural causes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, which is sad, but good to know that she

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<v Speaker 1>was not killed.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, definitely.

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<v Speaker 1>If you live in Saint Louis, you're probably screaming at

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<v Speaker 1>us right now. You got to mention Jlo. Guys, you

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<v Speaker 1>got to mention j Lo. J Loo was the eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>foot two hundred and ten pound anaconda that lived for

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<v Speaker 1>about a dozen years at the Saint Louis Zoo. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, feel what you want about zoos, but this

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<v Speaker 1>ana conda was saved, actually escaped being sold for meat

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<v Speaker 1>and skin at a Guyana market and an animal exporter

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<v Speaker 1>stepped in, bought the snake and brought to j Lo

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<v Speaker 1>to the zoo in twenty ten and was apparently the

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<v Speaker 1>star of the show. At they're developing herbetarium.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and the animal exporter who brought her very famously

0:37:21.160 --> 0:37:24.359
<v Speaker 2>put her in what looked like a present box with

0:37:24.400 --> 0:37:25.960
<v Speaker 2>like a bow on it and everything. It was like

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<v Speaker 2>here you go, guys, and let him open it, and

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<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden, j Lo sprung out and coiled

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<v Speaker 2>herself in a very like happy, playful way around the

0:37:34.200 --> 0:37:34.880
<v Speaker 2>zoo keeper.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, kind of like a genuine hug.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly, and slithered off. And because ana Conda's sound

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<v Speaker 2>just like this anaconda in the movie Anakanda, she went

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<v Speaker 2>eye as she slithered off, because that's the sound that

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<v Speaker 2>that snakes make.

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<v Speaker 1>That sounds sort of like the sound that the mummy makes.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you ever see that special? No, they they were

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<v Speaker 1>just talking about this on the Threedom podcast with Scott Ackerman,

0:38:03.880 --> 0:38:07.279
<v Speaker 1>Lauren Lapkins, and Paula Tompkins, where there was another one

0:38:07.280 --> 0:38:09.560
<v Speaker 1>of the specials. So let's recreate this thing that we

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<v Speaker 1>have no idea what it sounded like. And they tried

0:38:12.520 --> 0:38:16.600
<v Speaker 1>to recreate what a mummy sounded like by building this

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<v Speaker 1>i think a three D mummy voice box and passing

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<v Speaker 1>air through it. And it was just sort of like.

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<v Speaker 2>He a mummy, a dead human being that's been embalmed. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's bizarre. I mean, I'm sure they sounded like a

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<v Speaker 2>human pre mummy, and then they didn't sound like anything

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<v Speaker 2>because they were dead post mummification. That's just ah, I know,

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<v Speaker 2>my mind just got blown.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm with you. It was a very strange thing. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why they did it. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>much about it other than hearing it on threeedom and

0:38:51.120 --> 0:38:52.640
<v Speaker 1>looking it up because I had to hear the sound.

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<v Speaker 2>Like. We may edit that gap out, but there is

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<v Speaker 2>a substantial pause where we were both just stunned thinking

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<v Speaker 2>about this for a second.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I think we should leave it in there, because

0:39:01.520 --> 0:39:03.160
<v Speaker 1>that was that was real life.

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<v Speaker 2>Who else, chuck? We got to mention Oliver from the

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<v Speaker 2>San Francisco Zoo.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what's funny is I didn't. I was so caught

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<v Speaker 1>up in the sound that that mummy made. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>even think about, like, what does that even mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what are you doing?

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<v Speaker 1>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>Who thought of that idea?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? I don't know. It's probably Discovery Channel.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I mean, that's just bizarre. There's Oliver from

0:39:24.800 --> 0:39:28.040
<v Speaker 2>San Francisco Zoo. He may have been the oldest anaconda

0:39:29.040 --> 0:39:32.600
<v Speaker 2>to live in captivity. It was forty they think. And

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<v Speaker 2>then the oldest living snake in captivity is Annie, who

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<v Speaker 2>is in the Monte Casino Burg Gardens in Johannesburg, South Africa.

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<v Speaker 2>And in two twenty twenty one May fourteenth, twenty twenty one,

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<v Speaker 2>Guinness said that she was thirty seven years in three

0:39:50.680 --> 0:39:55.520
<v Speaker 2>hundred and seventeen days old. And since Olivia said that

0:39:55.560 --> 0:39:57.680
<v Speaker 2>she couldn't find any mention of her death and that

0:39:57.760 --> 0:40:00.719
<v Speaker 2>she she thinks that she's still there. She's coming up

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<v Speaker 2>on her forty second birthday.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, on May sixty second, she'll be forty two

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<v Speaker 2>years old.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what they don't have in that bird?

0:40:10.120 --> 0:40:12.240
<v Speaker 2>Garden birds?

0:40:12.760 --> 0:40:13.000
<v Speaker 1>Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>That was great, And Chuck, we can't go any further.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, I'm done.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well, Chuck's done because he just dropped the mic.

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<v Speaker 2>And since he did that, it's time for a listener.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, I'm gonna call this. Oh this is a fun

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<v Speaker 1>follow up. I always love it. And when we do

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<v Speaker 1>something on someone and like a family member writes in,

0:40:37.080 --> 0:40:41.959
<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, and that's what happened here with greed you dell. Hey, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>listening to the popcorn episode is delighted. You mentioned Charles Creeters,

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<v Speaker 1>my great great great grandfather. Here's some more information about

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<v Speaker 1>him and how he came to invent the popcorn machine.

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<v Speaker 1>He founded See Creators and Company in Chicago in eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>eighty five, initially building peanut roasters, patented the process of

0:40:58.600 --> 0:41:01.360
<v Speaker 1>popping popcorn and oil or seasoning as he called it,

0:41:01.400 --> 0:41:04.440
<v Speaker 1>to prevent popcorn from burning. In eighteen ninety three, patented

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<v Speaker 1>the first popcorn popper, which use a steam engine to

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<v Speaker 1>power it, and he debuted it at the eighteen ninety

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<v Speaker 1>three Colombian Exposition. At first, his invention wasn't getting much

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<v Speaker 1>attention until he started handing out freebacks of popcorn brilliant.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it. During the twentieth century early twentieth century,

0:41:22.719 --> 0:41:26.000
<v Speaker 1>as invention became a staple for street vendors, helping them

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<v Speaker 1>support themselves in their families, and today see Creators and

0:41:29.440 --> 0:41:33.600
<v Speaker 1>Companies a fifth generation family business. My grandfather, Charles D. Creators,

0:41:33.640 --> 0:41:35.960
<v Speaker 1>owns the company and both my uncles and my mom

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<v Speaker 1>still work there to this day.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's so cool.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that. That is from Garrett. I guess you Dell.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks a lot, Garrett. This is a fantastic email. We

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<v Speaker 2>do love it when we talk about somebody and a

0:41:47.000 --> 0:41:51.120
<v Speaker 2>family member writes in, especially when they're not upset at us.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and especially when they did something great like committing

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<v Speaker 1>the popcorn machine.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. If you want to be like Garrett, you

0:41:57.719 --> 0:41:59.880
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