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Speaker 1: Welcome to Clay and Buck's Deep Dive podcast. Taking an

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Speaker 1: issue and going a little deeper so you can too.

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Speaker 2: Remember the Brionna Taylor case, which was a huge part

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Speaker 2: of the BLM narrative. A police officer rather who was

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Speaker 2: this just happened earlier today, was sentenced to thirty three

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Speaker 2: months in prison for violating the civil rights of Brianna Taylor.

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Speaker 2: Now did Trump DOJ the conviction had already happened. The

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Speaker 2: Trump DOJ had said to the judge, Hey, look this guy,

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Speaker 2: this is preposterous. Basically, this guy should get one day

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Speaker 2: And the judge in the case decided to give him

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Speaker 2: a full three years. Basically just shy of three years

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Speaker 2: in federal prison. He didn't even shoot her. He shot

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Speaker 2: in response to a guy shooting at the cops. They said, police,

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Speaker 2: open up. I mean, I remember this Breonna Taylor case.

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Speaker 2: They thought the guy that and there's all this story

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Speaker 2: and all this evidence. You look at it that there

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Speaker 2: were packages being dropped off at the house. So this

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Speaker 2: wasn't like they just went into the wrong house. They

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Speaker 2: thought that she was The police believed that Breonna Taylor.

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Speaker 2: Her premises was being used for drug dealer. That was

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Speaker 2: what they got their warrant on. And so they knocked

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Speaker 1: Yep, who did he really?

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Speaker 2: Who did he really think he was shooting at everybody?

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Speaker 2: He just thought, Oh, it was drug dealers that had

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 2: Police open up? But the guy who just got three

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Speaker 2: They wouldn't even brought the case. But I believe the

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Speaker 2: conviction had already happened this guy. I think state charges,

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Speaker 2: by the way, Clay also were not brought up against

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Speaker 2: this guy. He shot through the window in response to

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Speaker 2: the gunfire at him. That's what this cop did. So

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Speaker 2: he returned fire and shot through a window to try

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Speaker 2: one of his fellow police officers. And they charged him

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Speaker 2: with violating Brennan Taylor's civil rights.

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Speaker 1: Yeah what is that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Anything?

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Speaker 2: He didn't shoot her, Just to be clear, he didn't

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Speaker 2: even hit her. So by shooting through the window in

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Speaker 2: response to somebody else who's trying to kill you and

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Speaker 2: your fellow officers. The Biden era, DOJ and this judge

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Speaker 2: now think you should go to prison for years. It's outrageous.

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Speaker 3: I agree. And they had multiple cases, they had mistrials,

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Speaker 3: they had a variety of different stories. They came out

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Speaker 3: for people out there who maybe just don't remember what

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Speaker 3: happened on that day. The Louisville police officer said they

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Speaker 3: announced themselves before entering the home were immediately met with gunfire.

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Speaker 3: According to the statement, Walker discharged his firearm first injuring

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Speaker 3: an officer. Walker claimed, this is the individual inside of

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Speaker 3: N All said, somebody kicked in the door shot my girlfriend.

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Speaker 3: So all of this came out of it. And look

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Speaker 3: the upshot of it is it happened on March thirteenth,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so they fed these they fed these cops to

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Speaker 2: the angry mob. Is what happened. We all see exactly

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Speaker 2: what happened here. This was just, oh my gosh, we're

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Speaker 2: having a racial reckoning. What can we do. The cops

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Speaker 2: and they returned fire. It was an accident that Breonna

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Speaker 2: But if somebody I spent a fair amount of time

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Speaker 2: you this, Clay, somebody is shooting at me, I am

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Speaker 2: knows how good they are at dealing with that until

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Speaker 2: they have to. Your adrenaline dump goes through, you know,

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Speaker 2: with he was acquitted on stage charges. So he's acquitted,

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Speaker 2: this officer, and then they bring federal charges of deprivation

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Speaker 2: we need after George Floyd or whatever. He is a

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Speaker 2: mistrial on that one, and they bring it again. They

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Speaker 2: you know why, because they worried that you know, they're

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Speaker 3: I think your point yesterday about the the amount of

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Speaker 3: incident since we have had cameras on police. Doesn't mean

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Speaker 3: that police are not going to do things wrong. Everybody

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Speaker 1: This is a Clay and Buck deep dive podcast. Okay,

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Speaker 1: welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. You never

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Speaker 1: know what you may get on the program. From minutes

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Speaker 1: to a minute, we were just talking about the decision

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Speaker 1: made to give one of the police officers in Louisville, Kentucky,

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Speaker 1: a thirty three month prison sentence, despite the fact that

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Speaker 1: the Trump Department of Justice had suggested just one day

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Speaker 1: and we were walking through the Breonna Taylor information and

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Speaker 1: giving people more about that because it's been several years

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Speaker 1: and some of you may well have forgotten about what

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Speaker 1: took place there. Well, listening in Louisville, Kentucky was one

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Speaker 1: of the officers involved in that raid. His name is

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Speaker 1: John Mattingly and he is with us now, and so

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Speaker 1: I want to bring him in and I'll just say,

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Speaker 1: first of all, thanks for listening, and broadly, just tell

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Speaker 1: us what happened on that day and what you think

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Speaker 1: about the thirty three month sentence that your former police

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Speaker 3: And obviously thanks for listening. What can you tell us

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Clayon Travis, I appreciate you guys having me on

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Speaker 4: and being willing to get it from you know, first

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Speaker 4: hand source, somebody who's kind of been through the fire

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Speaker 4: and all this thing. First off, let me start with

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Speaker 4: the decision. I think the judge when it was the

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Speaker 4: Biden DOJ did everything they asked for in the case.

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Speaker 4: In the trial, there were so many things that were

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Speaker 4: unprofessional by that DOJ. I've never set on a side

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Speaker 4: with underhand tactics, lying she did not allow cell phones

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Speaker 4: the end, when the jurors kept coming back going, man,

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Speaker 4: And then they asked the question, should we assume Rihanna

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Speaker 4: And I think the appeal was so strong and going

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Speaker 4: you shooting you're hurting you. But more importantly, you got

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Speaker 2: So you you, sir, you were incos you you were

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Speaker 2: at that raid. You were shot in the leg?

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Speaker 4: Correct, Yes, it ripped through my frimeral artery. Thank God

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Speaker 4: And yeah, and that's the part that gets missed over.

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Speaker 4: You know, you talk about the active aggressor in this

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Speaker 2: Right, Well, see the storyline, the storyline.

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Speaker 3: Us through that day. Just tell us what happened through

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, let me tell about a couple of the

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Speaker 4: falsehoods that the ben Crumps of the world put out,

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Speaker 4: And that was simply him and Kamala Harris and Lebron

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Speaker 4: Brett was the third one in the stack, and this

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Speaker 4: And I had questions at first too, because we're not

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Speaker 4: trained to shoot through windows. That's not how we're trained. However,

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Speaker 4: there's always exigent circumstances to things. And when Brett was

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Speaker 3: How many people do you think, No, I appreciate you

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Speaker 4: Well? This was going to be a rico case on

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Speaker 4: This is what tied him to her apartment that everybody

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Speaker 3: So we appreciate you calling us and filling in our

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Speaker 2: And you're doing a service by telling the people the

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Speaker 2: John Maattingley dot com is his site officer Mattingly. Thank

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Speaker 2: you so much for shedding some very important light on

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Speaker 4: I appreciate it. Thank you guys for being the arbiter

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 3: Hey Buck, one of my kids called me anunk the

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Speaker 1: This is a Clay and Buck deep dive podcast. A

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Speaker 3: Jim, a former cop, says, look, I'm a retired lieutenant

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Speaker 3: Bravolo Zulu, Jim.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people Clay there, you know, we never

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Speaker 3: Thing, that's right. And I also thought at Sergeant Mattingly,

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Speaker 3: of the last hour. This is also really important. These

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Speaker 3: I think it's a sign that, frankly, police departments need

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Speaker 5: Hey guys, Neil North, Carolina, I just wanted to comment

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Speaker 5: on the Breonna Taylor stuff. I'm really grateful that you

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