1 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to the drive. I am Dale Lolli. He is 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: the Matt Williamson and Matt. It's a Tuesday here in Pittsburgh, 3 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:11,399 Speaker 1: a snowy tues. 4 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's yucky that parking lot. It's windy and it's. 5 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:16,799 Speaker 1: Oh it's yeah. We're on like Mount Olympus up here 6 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: and it gets cold. 7 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't if anyone cares, but that's my nine 8 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 2: months at Akron was like that, Like where you at 9 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 2: the park was so windy and it was like the 10 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 2: top of this hill and it was colder than here. 11 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 2: From that walk to the car to the office. Every 12 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 2: day it was like it was almost like on purpose. 13 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 2: He never WoT just stay here, keep working. 14 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, if you to pull back there. So it used 15 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 1: to be we did our show at the at the 16 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 1: DV building at the Yeah, everybody knows where that was 17 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:49,599 Speaker 1: at on top of Green Tree Hill. So now iHeart 18 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 1: has moved their studios out to Bridgeville. So if you're 19 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: driving on seventy nine and you look up on top 20 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: of the mountain where in bridge at the Bridgeville exit, 21 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: the there's a building that says Waldron on it. That's 22 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: us on top of that mountain. 23 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 2: It was good for lantern flies, not good for win 24 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 2: so it gets a little chilli up it. It does get 25 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 2: a little chili. 26 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: Watch it's if you could fly a kite pretty much 27 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: year round on Bou's. 28 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 2: A good point too. 29 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:16,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, so so there's that. 30 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's a good move though. The old studios. 31 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 2: I know they're iconic and historic, but that building could 32 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 2: use a little revamp. 33 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: A little bit, a little bit. Speaking of revamping, we 34 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 1: saw a little revamped Steelers offense this week. Looking I 35 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 1: watched the Arizona Cardinals game last night, as I watched 36 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: the Monday night game hard enough to believe the Monday 37 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: night game did not really capture my attention. 38 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 2: It was a rough watch. I was writing an article 39 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 2: during the whole first half and didn't felt like I 40 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 2: missed a whole lot, not being you know, glued to 41 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 2: every snap and all that. 42 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: But by the way, the people out there who were 43 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: saying the Steelers should have kept Josh Dobbs and he 44 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: would be better than Kenny Pickett, how are you feeling 45 00:01:58,160 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: right now? 46 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, go watch that and I loved you. Great kid, No, 47 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 2: great story too. It's helped a lot of teams. But yeah, 48 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 2: there's a reason it's a lot of teams. 49 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: There's an expiration date. 50 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely. 51 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: Anyways, so watching that Arizona Cardinals team, their defenses. 52 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 2: Isn't it bad? 53 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 1: Oh? Rough? Rough? Rough? 54 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 2: Rough? Yes, I mean they don't have good players. They're 55 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 2: not really a great pass rushing unit. They have some sacks. 56 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 2: It's hard to name their starters. I mean, even as 57 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 2: much as to go through all that. Yeah, right, I 58 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 2: mean they are bad. I mean the Steelers should be 59 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 2: very successful on that side of the ball. 60 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, they're run defense not particularly good. Their 61 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 1: past defense not particularly good. I think the run defense 62 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: or some of the numbers may be a bit. 63 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 2: I don't know if the numbers are mean enough to 64 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 2: Here's why. 65 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: And here's why because early in the season, if you 66 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: look at them as a team, they've got ten touchdown passes. 67 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: They average four point nine yards per attempt. 68 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 2: You're talking about on defense. 69 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: Yards game per pass attempt four point nine yards, so 70 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:05,679 Speaker 1: early in the season, for most of this season, you 71 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: haven't had to do a whole lot against them. True, 72 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: that's very because they were compromised on offense. Yeah, so 73 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 1: I think teams kind of just okay, we're just gonna 74 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: do what we need to do to win the game. 75 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,079 Speaker 1: Kind of like what the Steelers rolled up a bunch 76 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 1: of offense in that game on Sunday against the Bengals, 77 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: but they didn't score much. If people were looking in 78 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: that and going, well, they you know, they still didn't score. 79 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 1: They were up two scorers in the fourth quarter and 80 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: it could have been it might as well been five. 81 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they definitely controlled the game. Yeah, ran 82 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 2: a lot more play so you. 83 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: Just you know that the other offense isn't gonna do much, 84 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: so you don't put the ball in harms way. 85 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I do think the Cardinal offense now is the 86 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 2: scariest it's been all year. 87 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: It's better, it's better than you know. 88 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 2: Then the quarterbacks they were rolling out before and they 89 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 2: got some playmakers, but there's not much on defense at all. 90 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: No, they just gave up two hundred and twenty eight 91 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:57,839 Speaker 1: rushing yard. They gave up two hundred and twenty nine 92 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 1: passing yards and two hundred twenty eight rushing yards against Ram. 93 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: You want to talk about a balanced offense. 94 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 2: That's being an equal opportunity there. And I think you 95 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 2: texted me last night as you were watching it, like 96 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 2: the Rams could kind of do anything. 97 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: They wanted anything. I mean they wanted yeah, oh, run 98 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: the ball here, Okay, we're gonna get six. Pass the 99 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: ball here, Okay, we're gonna get eight. 100 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 2: So it is butter. I mean it's not a good group. No. 101 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: So you know, if you and if you look at 102 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: it really in a nutshell, I mean, they're their best 103 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 1: run defense numbers or best run defense game this year 104 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: came in the opener when they held the Washington Commanders 105 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 1: to ninety two rushing yards. That's the best they've. 106 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 2: Done, right, which isn't all that exciting. 107 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: They've given up one hundred and eighty five. They've given 108 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: up one hundred and seventy nine, one hundred and eighty 109 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: four into twenty eight. 110 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 2: Wow, and we know that Steels are running the ball, well, 111 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 2: they might just be very content handing it off over 112 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 2: and over and over. 113 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. 114 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 2: Maybe they won't get thirty points, but they might have 115 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 2: forty minutes of time of possession. And the Cardinals are 116 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 2: never on the field and the fourth quarter you're just 117 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 2: ripping off eight or run after eight yard run. 118 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean even since Kyler Murray came back, and 119 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: that's been what the last three weeks, Yeah, three Okay, 120 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 1: so what they've done defensively in the last two weeks, 121 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: We'll say the first week he was easing into it. 122 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: Last two games against the Texans four hundred and nineteen 123 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 1: yards against the Rams for fifty seven. It's like, okay, oh, 124 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: you got your quarterback back, all right, now, we're going 125 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: to open things up a little bit here. And because 126 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: their offense, you know, the first week with Kyler, they 127 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: had three hundred and fifty two yards of offense against 128 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: the Falcons. The Falcons basically ran. The Falcons ran for 129 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty four yards, only threw for seventy. 130 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 1: They just ran and beat them twenty five to twenty three. 131 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: Last two weeks ago against the Texans, it was actually 132 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 1: they beat the Falcons, I should say. 133 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, there were two game losing that was the. 134 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:59,559 Speaker 1: The Texans had four hundred and nineteen yards, only scored 135 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 1: twenty one points against them, but they just controlled, completely 136 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 1: trolled the game, controlled the game. Same thing last week 137 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: against the Rams. They just controlled the football game. 138 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that's well said. Like some of their 139 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 2: I'm started to really dig into their numbers and putting 140 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 2: stat stuff together, and it doesn't come across on paper, 141 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 2: how bad they are in real life. I mean, they're 142 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 2: worse in real life than the numbers indicate that you 143 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 2: would think they'd be at the bottom of the league, 144 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 2: and you know, eight out of ten categories they're not. 145 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 2: I mean, some of the stuff's in the middle of 146 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 2: the road. But they never really challenged their opponents to 147 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 2: your point, you know, like it's not like, boy, all 148 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 2: the Cardinals opponents are gas pedaled down the whole time, 149 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 2: you know, I mean it's pretty rough. 150 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, because you don't need to now maybe. 151 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 2: You feel okay with turnovers, which helps me. 152 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: Maybe you feel like you need to a little bit 153 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: more this week if you're the Steelers, because you do 154 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: have they do have Murray and they do have Connor's back. Yeah, 155 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,359 Speaker 1: like they were missing those guys for large portions of 156 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 1: this season. 157 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 2: Like McBride's come on strong, and Marcus Brown's a good 158 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,359 Speaker 2: player and Rondel Moore is dangerous. I mean, so, I 159 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 2: mean they're they're skill guys. Their fantasy dudes are worthy, 160 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 2: you know. 161 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, so you know, I look at the again, they're 162 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: their offenses is really low and bringing up again d 163 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: v o A. But I don't think that's who they 164 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: they're more middle of the road offensively. Yeah, now this verse, 165 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 1: now this version, the season. 166 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 2: Long stats aren't fair to the offense. 167 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: But the defense, Now, we just saw that Cincinnati defense. 168 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: If they at least have player, they're twenty sixth in 169 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 1: d v o A defensively. The Bengals, Bengals, okay, Cardinals 170 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: are thirtieth. 171 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're noticeably worse. Much play against the Cardinals 172 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 2: and Bengals. 173 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: Defense without a doubt, Like the Bengals have some guys 174 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: that can, you know, Trey Hendrickson. 175 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 2: Can, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I guess some guys that can. 176 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: They can wreck your day a little bit. 177 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, legit starters. 178 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, and they and it's for Arizona. It's both thirty 179 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: first and passing d v A. 180 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 2: It's awful. 181 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, uh, not to be not you know, they're rushing 182 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: d v o A not much better. That is thirtieth. 183 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't. 184 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: They don't stop the run, they don't stop the pass. Right, 185 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: other than that, they're great. 186 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 2: It's kind of like your Rams example. You know, just 187 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 2: what do we want to do? Guys? You can just 188 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 2: flip a coin. 189 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: You could just get to spell the spin the wheel 190 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: of of offensive play calling this week. Ok, yeah, let's 191 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: run it here. Well, the coach is third and ten, 192 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: doesn't matter. 193 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 2: It'll be fine, right. And the Rams are good offense, 194 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 2: but they're not a great offense. You know. 195 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: We saw that against Yeah, we saw that game against 196 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: you know, the Steelers. They had their dudes. Yeah, And I. 197 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 2: Mean Karen Williams is a nice story as a back, 198 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 2: but he's not Walter Payton and he's just ripping through 199 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 2: them yesterday, yeah, Sunday. 200 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: I mean, there were just holes like they need line, 201 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 1: like what you don't see in the NFL kind of 202 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 1: holes exactly. Oh my god. 203 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 2: And their head coach Gannon comes from Philly and he'll 204 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 2: do a lot of five man fronts and Philly stuff. 205 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 2: But there's no Reddick or Cox or you know, anything 206 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 2: close to the front they have in Philadelphia. I mean, 207 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:02,079 Speaker 2: I bet early picks are going to go into D 208 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 2: line sooner than later. 209 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, it's I don't know. 210 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:10,079 Speaker 2: They're a hard team to analyze, to be honest, it 211 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 2: really isn't very interesting. 212 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 1: And then you add in the fact that you've got 213 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: a team coming from a warm weather city into what 214 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 1: it's doing right now. It's not going to be Mark 215 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 1: the high on Sunday is going to be fifty. It's 216 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: going to feel like it's twenty degrees to those guys. 217 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, one o'clock on a Sunday across country like nasty environment. 218 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 2: You have nothing to play for. And you know, most 219 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 2: of us or many of us thought this is the 220 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 2: front runner for the first overall pick before the season started, 221 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,079 Speaker 2: which makes all the sense in the world, and doesn't 222 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 2: like that they're going to achieve that goal either. So 223 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:46,679 Speaker 2: you know, they just don't have good players. I mean, 224 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:48,559 Speaker 2: it's really what it comes down to. They have very 225 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 2: few good players. 226 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I just don't know what they have. I mean, 227 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 1: I'm just looking at this DVOA rankings just like thirty 228 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: first thirty, first thirty, first thirtieth, like they're just bad. 229 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 2: Across the boarder bad across the board, really are I 230 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 2: haven't looked at special teams at all. I know they're 231 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 2: Cutckers decent, but I don't know overall they have any 232 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 2: advantage of there. 233 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: I probably not. People are down on the Steelers special teams, 234 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: and I get it. I mean they gave up a 235 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 1: return last week. 236 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, but. 237 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: Overall they've been you know, they block kicks boswell has 238 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 1: been great. 239 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 2: Boswell has been unbelievable. Yeah, I wonder if he's gonna 240 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,079 Speaker 2: be the pro bowler, I mean, the the All Pro. 241 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 1: There's a lot of guys having great seasons. 242 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 2: I haven't paid much attention. I mean, there's been okay, 243 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 2: but he's not. 244 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: He's missed. He's only making eighty He's only making eighty 245 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:36,959 Speaker 1: percent of his kicks this. 246 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:38,199 Speaker 2: Year, boss one. 247 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: And it's from Yeah, I mean he'll probably still go 248 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 1: because well he's Yeah, but he's not been what he 249 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 1: typically is. This is not he hasn't But yeah, I 250 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: mean I just I look at that and and uh no, you. 251 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 2: Look at Cardinals team, it's not even boy, they got 252 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 2: all these rookies that are super promising. Yeah. 253 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: That's the other thing is like there's not young guys 254 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: that well they're you know, these guys are gonna get better. 255 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: That's the thing about the Steelers team is that there's 256 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: young guys here who are playing and playing a lot, 257 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: and they're getting better. Like we can look at just 258 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:09,559 Speaker 1: go oh Keanu, Benton, Joey Porter. 259 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, these guys already making a name for themselves and 260 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 2: they're just scratching the surface, you know, like their first 261 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 2: round pick was Paris Johnson, who looks like a long 262 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 2: term answer at left tackle. Great, you know, but it's 263 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 2: not super exciting. Yeah, and you know they made a 264 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 2: trade down. They had the early pick and they made 265 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 2: a trade so they have two first for next year, 266 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 2: which is which is exciting. I think the future might 267 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 2: be bright. But man, there there is not a lot 268 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 2: to wow. This guy's really worth the price of admission. 269 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: Harrison Booker, by the way, I just looked at ups. 270 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: He's twenty for twenty on field goal attempts. Okay, Brandon 271 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 1: Aubrey with the Cowboys is twenty two of twenty two. 272 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,559 Speaker 1: They're both one hundred percent. Nick Folk with the Titans 273 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: is his missed one kick? 274 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 2: Kicking was that strong? 275 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: Greg zer Line has missed one kick. Young Hoku, who's 276 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: now the all time percentage leader, has missed one kick. 277 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: Boswell's actually eighth miss one. He's missed one. He's at 278 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 1: ninety five point five. 279 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 2: Okay, just as an attempted, He's. 280 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: Twenty one of twenty two. I's been some kicking has 281 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: been really good. 282 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 2: And I didn't realize that that's not the reason scoring 283 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 2: is down across the league. That's for sure. 284 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 1: No well more teams are kicking field goals. 285 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, they're good at it, toude and they go 286 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 2: between the operas. 287 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: The Jets never score, like grig Zeer line is getting 288 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: all kind That's all they do is kick field goals. 289 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 2: There, guy's okay to I think he's missed three. I 290 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 2: think he's like eighteen and twenty one something like that. 291 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 1: Yeah' see Matt Praterrader, he's nineteen and twenty two. Okay, 292 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 1: so he's eighty six point four. That's pedestrian nowadays, that's average. 293 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: That's so crazy. And but he kicks indoors again, that's 294 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 1: another thing. How how do they how do they handle coppers? 295 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: Not the same, not the same, not the same, But 296 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 1: how does that? How does that warm weather team handle 297 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: coming into the cold weather? They don't do it. 298 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 2: Very often, No, they don't. I mean, and that's his 299 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 2: warmest spot and as far away as you can get. 300 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 2: And frankly, they don't have much to play for, and 301 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 2: they don't have a lot of veteran leadership and they're 302 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 2: missing a lot of stuff. Yeah. 303 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 1: The only opportunity they able get to do that in 304 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 1: regular season would be when they they're yearly tripped to Seattle. 305 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 2: If it's a late one. Yeah, they don't do a 306 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 2: lot of it. 307 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 1: You're right, So I think that's a huge advantage in 308 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 1: feasts Steelers favor as well. I just don't see any 309 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: way that they lose this football game. 310 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 2: It would have to be a total self, you know, 311 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 2: self implosion. You know, maybe Kyler makes some big plays. 312 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 2: I mean, he's like the scariest thing come into town. 313 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 2: Marky's brown might get behind you, but I mean how 314 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 2: often can that possibly that's not going to sustain you. Now. 315 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 2: I mean their offensive tackles are okay for protecting, you know, 316 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 2: against the Steeler edge guys, but the interior is pretty bad. 317 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 2: And I mean I think Kyler's gonna get a lot 318 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 2: of interior pressure. So and he hasn't been great. Yeah, 319 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 2: he looks healthy. He's been running around like crazy, but 320 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 2: his accuracy numbers aren't good through three weeks either. 321 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 1: You know, let's let's talk about something that you just 322 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:55,199 Speaker 1: mentioned there. You know, they they with the with the coaching, 323 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: you know, coaching your team up to do what you have. 324 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 1: I don't know that Mike Tomlin gets enough credit for 325 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:06,479 Speaker 1: that because we just saw an example that was Cincinnati 326 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 1: where They didn't coach things up to take best advantage 327 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 1: of what they had about it. 328 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 2: They kind of played the way they played no matter what. 329 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, they just said, you know what, whether we 330 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: have Joe Burr or whether we had the backup quarterback, 331 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: and it doesn't matter. It's the same and it's not. 332 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: And so all too often that's where coaching comes into 333 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 1: play when you factor in winning or losing a game. 334 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 2: Absolutely, yeah, I mean knowing your team and frankly, I 335 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 2: mean comparing it to Arizona, who knows. I mean, this 336 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 2: poor guy inherited a bunch of bad players. He doesn't 337 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 2: even have a chance to put his stamp on the 338 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 2: team yet. And mentioned his Philly background, Gannon, I'm sure 339 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 2: that he's going to invest in d Lineman like crazy. Fine, 340 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 2: but that's a two three year project, you know where. 341 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 2: I think Tomlin is great at that and recent memory 342 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 2: will tell you, boy, Tomlin is so conservative with his 343 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 2: fourth downs and punts and go forward and run past percent. 344 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 2: But don't forget the lev Bell Antonio Brown Killer Bees 345 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 2: Ben years. 346 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: You know, yeah, oh they were. They were at the 347 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: top of the league and going for two you know that. 348 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 2: Kind of stuff, right right, Yeah, I mean, then they 349 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 2: do it the first touchdown six nothing to go for two. Yeah, 350 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 2: because we're better trying to make it eight we can 351 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 2: get because we're fifty percent or better or whatever. And 352 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 2: Antonio Brown's you know, the best wide receiver stats in 353 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 2: the league. I mean, so I think he has adjusted 354 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 2: to his teammates or you know what he has. 355 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: I think when he has red painty paints the barn 356 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 1: red and when he has green painty paints and green, 357 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: And I don't know that enough coaches in the league 358 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 1: do that. 359 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 2: No, I don't either. It makes me crazy. I think 360 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 2: there's a lot of them that we're going to recruit, 361 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 2: We're going to draft for my needs, which is okay, 362 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 2: you know, but inevitably, at some point in the season, 363 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 2: those guys aren't going to be there or they're not 364 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 2: going to live up to the building, and you have 365 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 2: to adjust. There's not a draft every two weeks, right, 366 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 2: you know, right, you know, so eventually you have a 367 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 2: hand that has dealt to you that you need to 368 00:15:58,360 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 2: play properly, not the way you want. 369 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: My favorite example of this was when Rich Rodriguez got 370 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 1: hired at the head coach to be the head coach 371 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: of Michigan, which was coming off like a nine and 372 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: three seat whatever it was like they were, they were down, 373 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: they were still a good football team. They had top 374 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: recruits across the board all over the place. 375 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 2: And so the pit, yeah, I remember that era. 376 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: They've got offensive linemen, they've got a quarterback. Yes's who's 377 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: a pro style quarterback, and they in retch Rod comes in. 378 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: He said, well, we're gonna run my system. It's my system. 379 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 2: So genius, right, And in a way it was genius 380 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 2: because West Virginia, much like Pitt we were in the 381 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 2: same recruiting levels. We actually, to be honest, we didn't 382 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 2: hardly ever lose anyone to WU, but not neither one 383 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 2: of us beat Penn State, Ohio State, Michigan, you know, 384 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 2: So we were basically recruiting the same level of play 385 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 2: or give or take, and especially at that level, defensive 386 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 2: tackles are the hardest thing to find. True offensive linemen 387 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 2: are the hardest thing to find. There's just not many 388 00:16:57,960 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 2: of those human beings on the planet. And they go 389 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 2: to Michigan. So to his credit, he realized, if I 390 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 2: run this spread, I can't bully people off the ball. 391 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 2: I can get the most out of like you said 392 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 2: the cards I. 393 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 1: Was done by two and three star guys. 394 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 2: So his original thought of it are I can turn 395 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 2: a two star into a three star and a three 396 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 2: star into a four star with my system. And I 397 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 2: can find receivers. I can find quarterbacks that might not 398 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 2: be first overall picks, but they've been in passing camp 399 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 2: since they were ten years old, and they can stand 400 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:30,199 Speaker 2: back there and sling it around if they're getting it 401 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 2: out quick. And I have good row concepts. But then 402 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:35,640 Speaker 2: he gets the greatest gift of all and says, now 403 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 2: we'll give you a lineman. 404 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. Now you've got the five star guys, right, and 405 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 1: now you still want to play that finesse style. 406 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 2: Playing Mickey Mouse football, ye, end right. I mean it's 407 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 2: it made me crazy. I mean when I remember he 408 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:48,120 Speaker 2: got hired, I'm like, boy, this is perfect. He gets 409 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 2: to take all the stuff he had that he got 410 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 2: the most out of people. But now add on fourth 411 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 2: and two, I'm just going to push you over, yeah, 412 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 2: and run it down your throat and the end of 413 00:17:57,040 --> 00:18:00,239 Speaker 2: games and have defensive lineman galore. And you know, like 414 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 2: even my pit yars, our defensive tackles were try hard guys. 415 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 2: They weren't top recruits at all. They didn't look like 416 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 2: Albert Haynesworth to say the least. So our defense basically said, hey, 417 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 2: you two d tackles. If you can eat up both 418 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 2: guards in the center, even if you drag them on 419 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:19,880 Speaker 2: top of you, or take their knees out, or set 420 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 2: something on fire in the middle of the feet at whatever, 421 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 2: just do what you can to clog things up. And 422 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 2: you know, don't let those guys get the second level. 423 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 2: We'll take that all day long. Yeah, I mean, that's 424 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:30,400 Speaker 2: just playing to you what you got. 425 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:33,679 Speaker 1: But all too often you get guys like again and 426 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 1: going to Arizona and saying we're gonna run my system 427 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: instead of instead of adjusting to what you've got. Yeah, 428 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 1: and what you might have? What what? 429 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:45,159 Speaker 2: What can a lot of hubris in the code? What 430 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:47,159 Speaker 2: can we do with It's smarter than everybody else. I 431 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 2: have this great system that I'll make work no matter what. Well. 432 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 1: This worked in Philadelphia, Yeah, so why wouldn't it work here? 433 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:54,360 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know that we can even blame him. 434 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 2: I mean the reason that the Cardinals have too. We 435 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 2: don't have any guys because I mean, right, I don't 436 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,160 Speaker 2: know if he's a good coach, bad coach, awful coach, 437 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,919 Speaker 2: great coach. I mean he's not getting more out of 438 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 2: what he has. I mean, the guys are playing to 439 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 2: the level we'll see. But that happens all the time 440 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 2: in the league. 441 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, just it drives me crazy, Like you know, when 442 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:17,360 Speaker 1: I coach, you know, and I still coach baseball. If 443 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: we have a team that's fast, we steal bases, and 444 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: we button, we move guys, you know, do whatever you 445 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 1: do to score runs. If we got a team that 446 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: can hit the ball, defense, we'll do that. 447 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 448 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 1: If I've got great pitching, we'll rely on that. You've 449 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: got to be able to adjust to what you've got 450 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: instead of just we do this. This is what we do. 451 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: I got to I got a whole bunch of speed guys, 452 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 1: but we're gonna try to hit home runs. It looks 453 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 1: like William May's Hayes popping the ball up in the infield. 454 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 2: It's different in college because you got ninety guys on 455 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 2: scholarship or ninety five even forget it's been so long 456 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 2: that you can recruit your style unless you're just and. 457 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 1: Now with the with the transfer portal and everything. Yeah, 458 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 1: at the NFL. You can't do that, and you can't 459 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:54,919 Speaker 1: do that. 460 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 2: You have to be way more adjustable, smaller rosters, injuries 461 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 2: all the time, long seasons. You know, you play such 462 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 2: a variety of teams too, like, Oh, the Ravens are 463 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:05,919 Speaker 2: coming town, what do we do with that? You know? 464 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 2: I mean that's different beast all together. 465 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 1: I will say this, when the Cardinals played the Ravens, 466 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: yeah back in Week eight, Uh, they had three hundred 467 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 1: and ten yards of offense in that game. That was 468 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 1: with wasn't kyl No, it wasn't Kyler yet, that was 469 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:26,160 Speaker 1: that was no, No, that was still uh Josh Dodges. 470 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:27,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was trying to think who else their third quarterback? 471 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 2: Was this here? Yeah? 472 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 1: The Ravens only had two hundred and sixty eight yards 473 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 1: of offense in that game. Wow, No, Arizona turned the 474 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 1: ball over twice, and I'm sure they were controlled Baltimore 475 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: one thirty one twenty four. I think I think it 476 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: was a late score to make it twenty four. 477 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 2: I don't remember the game well, but I'm kind of 478 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 2: shocked by those numbers. 479 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:50,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, but it was a evenish overall, yeah, semi competitive game. 480 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: So I mean they can handle that you know, cause 481 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: they do play in San Francisco every year. 482 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you know. 483 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: So if I'm if I'm building the Cardinals, I'm saying, Okay, 484 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 1: what do we need to do to be able to 485 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 1: beat San Francisco? 486 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:05,959 Speaker 2: I mean, I think that's step number one is how 487 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 2: can we compete in our division? We're clearly last? You know, 488 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 2: what can we do to at least hang around with 489 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,679 Speaker 2: the Niners and then eventually go past them. They got 490 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 2: a lot of work do to get there. 491 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:17,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so too. And they'll have a lot 492 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,120 Speaker 1: of work to do to beat the Steelers this week. 493 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 2: They will, they will. Let's game this year. 494 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: They got Steelers this week, then they have their buy 495 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: they get the four yeah forty nine Ers at home, 496 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:32,160 Speaker 1: then at Chicago at Philadelphia, and then Seattle at home. 497 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 2: Maybe they beat the Bears, maybe in Chicago, though Bears 498 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:38,479 Speaker 2: have a lot more good players than they do. 499 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, the Bears are I think are more dangerous team 500 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: right now, especially in Chicago. In Chicago that late Bears 501 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,400 Speaker 1: are actually now in the playoff racing the NFC after 502 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 1: winning less things. 503 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 2: They're miserable, but at least there's some good things going 504 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 2: on in the organization. You know, they got two early 505 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 2: first round picks. It looks like they're building something. 506 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: Like Arizona's not out of the woods yet to have 507 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:00,120 Speaker 1: the number one overall, they earn a number. 508 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 2: Want to win game or two. All of a sudden, 509 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 2: they're right back in. 510 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,120 Speaker 1: With the coaching change and all that stuff. Maybe they catch. 511 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 2: Streets ahead of them still, but I mean I think 512 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 2: they're in the top five or they're definitely a top five. 513 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're still in the top five. Giants on this 514 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:15,160 Speaker 1: hot streak, Giants on a heater. Uh, let's get through 515 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: a break. Here. He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale, Lollie. 516 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 1: You're listening to the drive. You're on Steelers Nation Radio. 517 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: We'll be back with more right after this. 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That's very timely. 535 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 1: I don't know who's handling this stuff, but there there 536 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: a little good job of making sure they get the 537 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:32,919 Speaker 1: right guys. Today's question, are you already Matt drum roll? Uh? 538 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 1: Bobby Lane or Ben Roethlisberger. You don't see those though. 539 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,719 Speaker 1: Most passing yards in a Steelers game against the Cardinals. 540 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with Bobby Lane again. Soo's uh, what 541 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 2: were they the Chicago I did the series history. 542 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: The Chicago Cardinals team has moved more than the Cardinals. 543 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 2: At least they've stayed the Cardinals. The whole time. Yeah, 544 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 2: but they've been around a long time. 545 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,880 Speaker 1: They were the Cleveland Cardinals at one point right Chicago, 546 00:23:58,359 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 1: they were Chicago. 547 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 2: I go to St. Lewis. There might be one more 548 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 2: in there too. I mean the series started as the 549 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 2: Chicago Cardinals or the Pittsburgh Pirates. 550 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,679 Speaker 1: Yes, okay, who I think who else was in Cleveland? 551 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 1: Somebody else was. 552 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 2: In somebody else was in Cleveland. I don't think it 553 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,360 Speaker 2: was them, though, maybe it's the Rams because then they were. 554 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 1: I think it was the Rams. The Rams might have 555 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 1: actually moved, may have moved more teams that the NFC 556 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 1: West is like the Yes no Mad Conference rather than 557 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers. Everybody has either moved at least 558 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 1: once or changed conferences. 559 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 2: And from what I remember, the Cardinals were something else 560 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 2: before the Arizona Cardinals, but they were in Arizona. I 561 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 2: think they were called like they were. There was one 562 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 2: year there that they were the I. 563 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 1: Don't think so. Maybe I'm wrong on that now because 564 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: I remember my first my first year covering the Steelers 565 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 1: in ninety three, my first full year, we went out 566 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 1: there for a game. That was the game Eric Green 567 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: caught the pass and threw up. It was really hot 568 00:24:55,920 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 1: because they were playing a Sun Devil stadium and and 569 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 1: they had just moved out there recently. At that point, 570 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 1: it was just weird. They've been in Arizona for a 571 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:09,640 Speaker 1: while now, they've been in Arizona. 572 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 2: But maybe it's just a different stadium or whatever. I 573 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 2: mean he said there was Arizona State Stadium. Yeah, I 574 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 2: was thinking they had a different name before they were 575 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,400 Speaker 2: Arizona and they'll double check that. But maybe I'm making 576 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:19,679 Speaker 2: that up. 577 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe was it. They never called themselves the Phoenix Cardinals. 578 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 2: And that's what I was thinking, but I was maybe 579 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 2: they did say it. 580 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 1: I thought maybe first they've always been the Cardinals. 581 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, they've always been the Cardinals. That's one thing that 582 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 2: stayed the same. And they've always been read. 583 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: I mean, who's the Who's the greatest cardinal of all 584 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 1: time outside of Larry Fitzgerald. I guess it is Larry, Yeah, 585 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 1: he's He's mister Cardinal. 586 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:42,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it is. Dear Dwarf was a Hall 587 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 2: of Fame tackle, I mean a little before my time. 588 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 1: The defensive back Williams. Williams before that you're looking at 589 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 1: like Jim Hart. 590 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they've been around a long time too. Yeah, 591 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 2: I mean, what do they have two three, four Hall 592 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,160 Speaker 2: of famers maybe? I mean, and some of them are 593 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 2: guys you don't have a great name, you know, aren't 594 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 2: super recognized. 595 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 1: Kurt Warner, it's just a short time there though. 596 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 2: I mean, he can't be on the list, But I'm 597 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 2: thinking about that team at least Bolden and Larry and. 598 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 1: WARNERI Clais Campbell was Yeah, you know, he's kind there. 599 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,679 Speaker 1: That seems like forever ago that he was there though. 600 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 2: Right, and he's still playing. Yeah, that was probably four 601 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 2: or five years ago. 602 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's had like two different NFL careers. 603 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 2: Right, Like J. J. Watt doesn't count. I mean he 604 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 2: was wasn't really a great cardinal. 605 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 1: No, I'm as Smith at the end, right, those guys 606 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: they're cheating, you know. Yeah, it's it's. 607 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 2: Hilarry's clearly number one. 608 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 1: It's a weird, weird, weird dynamic. 609 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. Not a strong organization over the years, no. 610 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:48,239 Speaker 1: And not a strong organization this year. I I just 611 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 1: I look at this and I'm like, okay, to get 612 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 1: back onto our subject of what we're talking about. The 613 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 1: one that you know, you said, as long as the 614 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: Steelers don't do something to blow it. 615 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't implode. I mean, that can happen to 616 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:01,400 Speaker 2: any team any game. 617 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,479 Speaker 1: That's one thing that this team hasn't done though, in 618 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:08,439 Speaker 1: terms of imploding and shooting itself in the foot with 619 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 1: turnovers and things of that nature. They've been very protective 620 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: of the football. 621 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 2: And the other thing you're aware of it, I don't know. 622 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,959 Speaker 2: I mean, and everyone's aware of the picket streak at 623 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:22,920 Speaker 2: this point of not throwing interceptions, but their ball handlers 624 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 2: Picket Harris Warren are great in terms of fumbling too. Yeah, 625 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:28,640 Speaker 2: I mean they're right at the top of the league 626 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 2: and fumbles allowed. 627 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 1: They just don't do it. Yeah yeah, I mean when 628 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,160 Speaker 1: you start looking at this Cardinals team, well, and again 629 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 1: a lot of this was Josh Dobb Yeah right. I 630 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: mean he had eight fumbles in his time, and eight 631 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 1: fumbles in eight games as a Cardinal. As a team, 632 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 1: they put it on the ground twelve times. 633 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 2: Horrible. 634 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 1: That's the one thing that they've they've done reasonably well. 635 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: Even Kyler since he's come back, he's he's he's throwing 636 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 1: two interceptions in his three games. You can yeah, yeah, 637 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 1: one every fifty or so passes. You can kind of 638 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 1: live with and if we. 639 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 2: Study them, I'm sure some of them are coming from 640 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,880 Speaker 2: behind and trying to force things and you know, somewhat excusable. Yeah, 641 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 2: but he hasn't been great with location and accuracy of 642 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:16,680 Speaker 2: the football. 643 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 1: And he's also been sacked nine times that he's a 644 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 1: guy that can escape and he's been sacked them. 645 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 2: To their protection is not great and they're always playing 646 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 2: from behind. And I would bet the Steelers have at 647 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 2: least three yeah. 648 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:33,679 Speaker 1: Uh. The one thing that mentioned Connor in the previous segment, 649 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 1: and I know, watching their game against the Rams, I 650 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 1: think maybe their first five touches in the game against 651 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 1: the Rams either went to Connor as a runner or 652 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 1: as a receiver. 653 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then overall he didn't have a huge workload, 654 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 2: you know, start to finish like he usually does. He's 655 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 2: a workhorse type. 656 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:52,959 Speaker 1: Well, they did fall behind, they did. 657 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 2: It was the first game back, I think. And they 658 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 2: also picked up Michael Carter from the Jets, who, yeah, 659 00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 2: Shock was released. Not that he's great, but he looks 660 00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 2: like the third down guy now already, which Connor used 661 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 2: to do all of and I think Carter is going 662 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 2: to take the third down stuff over. And then who's the. 663 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 1: Other dude, Dimmercardo. 664 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's kind of mixed in still too. 665 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, So I mean they can. They've got some guys offensively. 666 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,239 Speaker 2: They have some guys, you know, like Marky's Brown and 667 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 2: especially McBride are getting a lot of targets. You know, 668 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 2: those are at least getting the football to the right people. 669 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 2: Wilson's been a nice story. The rookie receiver. He didn't play. 670 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 1: He didn't play last weekend. 671 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, Rondell Moore is dangerous, dangerous, yeah, gadget e, but 672 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 2: not just a gadget guy, you know. I mean, like 673 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 2: you get the ball in space and they try to 674 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 2: do that, and they'll give it to him behind the 675 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 2: line of scrimmage. He can break tackles for a little guy, 676 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 2: and he's certainly explosive. So, I mean, weaponry isn't really 677 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 2: the problem. I mean, they can hang in that department. 678 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 1: Here's the thing small. Yeah, Steelers probably going to get 679 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 1: both Montrevius Adams and make a Fitzpatrick back this week. 680 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin saying today that both are going to practice 681 00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 1: at some in some form or fashion on WEDNESDA Day, Right, 682 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 1: And if you look at it, since giving up the 683 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: thirty points, to the Texans in Week four. Yes, ten points, 684 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 1: seventeen points, twenty points, sixteen points, nineteen points, thirteen points, 685 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 1: ten points. Steelers are allowing an average fifteen points per game. 686 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 2: Yeah since Week four. Yeah, and that's very real. I 687 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 2: mean that's a big sample size against some decent offense. 688 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 2: They're on all backup quarterbacks and stuff, and that's a 689 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 2: big stretch. Without Cam, linebackers have been in, out of 690 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 2: the lineup or not even in. 691 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 1: They've been out no Menca the last four games. 692 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 2: I mean, you, Porters really come on during that stretch. 693 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 2: Benton's really come on during that stretch. 694 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 1: They haven't had Menca and Cam on the field together 695 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 1: since the first quarter of the game against the forty 696 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 1: nine ers. 697 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 2: Wow. I hadn't thought about that, but that's definitely true. Yeah, 698 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 2: I mean they just have not coalesced together. I mean, 699 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 2: you saw it what you said at high Smith. Of course, again, 700 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 2: Porters come on. Well, but boy, it'd be nice to 701 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 2: get reasonably close to full health this late in the year. 702 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 1: Heading down the stretch. You're like, okay, And the nice 703 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 1: thing about it is like, I'm sure at this point 704 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 1: in the season, it's it's what is week week twelve. 705 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 1: Cam probably feels better in week twelve than he's felt 706 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 1: in years. Oh, I would think Mink is gonna feel 707 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 1: better than he's felt in week thirteen in years. 708 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 2: Absolutely, no think so. 709 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 1: And so you're getting those guys back reasonably fresh and. 710 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 2: Him real quick. Cam played a real high percentage of 711 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 2: the snaps this week, but they. 712 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 1: Didn't play many snacks. I was still on like thirty 713 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 1: five steps, you know, So if you're gonna do that, right, 714 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 1: like okay. 715 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I would have liked to see more Herbig 716 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 2: who had a sack and golden Golden right. Those guys' 717 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 2: staff counts have been really low, but in that last game, 718 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 2: there wasn't even opportunity to get those guys really in. 719 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not. They're gonna be on the field, yeah, 720 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 1: because you're gonna have your best guys out there all 721 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 1: the time, because they're always fresh. Today Mike Tomlin called TJ. 722 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 1: Watt the best defense player on the planet. 723 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, and JJ has been saying that. And those guys 724 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 2: aren't alone either. 725 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. Again, you look at it. He leads a league 726 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 1: with thirteen and a half sex. He's now tied with 727 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 1: Danielle Hunter. Hunter hasn't had his bye week yet though 728 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 1: he'll have that this week. So what has an off? 729 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 1: He got half a sack last night, So he's leading 730 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 1: the league in sacks despite having one fewer game. 731 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 2: I mean he's number one in sacks per game. 732 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. He has an interception, three forced fumbles, three 733 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 1: fumble recoveries, six pass defenses. I mean he does a 734 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 1: little bit of everything. 735 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,719 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, in addition to the big stuff. 736 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 1: Yet if you listen to the national pundits out there, 737 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 1: he's and also ran in the NFL Defensive Player of 738 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 1: the Year. 739 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:46,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't quite get it. 740 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 1: I mean I think he single handedly won them a 741 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 1: couple of games, like he should actually be in the 742 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 1: MVP consideration. 743 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he would be my vote right now 744 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 2: for Defensive Player of the Year. I mean there's other 745 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 2: great ones of Core led by Garrett. Garrett's had a 746 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 2: great year as well. 747 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 1: To me, the guy, the other guy is the corner 748 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 1: from Dallas, Dallas. I mean he's got what he's got 749 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 1: six touchdowns. 750 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think he has seven picks. Six to 751 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 2: the house. 752 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 1: Now they're also looking at it, you know. Now, all 753 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 1: of a sudden, Dak Prescott's like the dark horse for 754 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 1: the m v P. You can't have it all come 755 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 1: from the same team. Otherwise, why haven't they beaten anybody good. 756 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 2: In the second division? Right? I mean, I don't know 757 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 2: that I'd give it the Bland, but I think it's 758 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 2: an interesting conversation because those are game changing plays and 759 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 2: he put a lot of points on the board, you know, 760 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 2: single handedly, which is awesome. But if you went to 761 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 2: Mike McCarthy like, well, can you think Bland or Micah 762 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 2: Parsons out of the line, right, you know. 763 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 1: It's probably gonna say, we'll sit down plan. 764 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll at the corner. Let's still stick with our 765 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 2: stud up front. No, I mean, what should very much 766 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 2: be in the conversation if not the forefront? 767 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 1: And I look at so he had two sacks this 768 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 1: past week against the Bengals. This game against the Cardinals 769 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 1: coming up, where she'll be able to rush the passer 770 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 1: a little bit in that game. Then the Patriots should 771 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 1: be able to rush the pass her a little bit 772 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 1: in that game. Then you get the Colts. Yeah, the 773 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 1: Colts should be able to rush, and then the Bengals again, 774 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 1: the Seahawks just gave up what six or seven sacks? 775 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, like he's probably going to be pushing twenty 776 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,920 Speaker 1: sacks again by the time World said everything says and 777 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 1: a half thirteen and a half now six games lest he's. 778 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:30,759 Speaker 2: I mean, where we put the over under at like nineteen, Yeah, 779 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 2: I think to make. 780 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 1: It sounds pretty sick, ye, I mean he's averaging over 781 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:34,799 Speaker 1: a sack per game this year. 782 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean to make to the point where you 783 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 2: might go under, you might go over eighteen and a half, 784 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 2: nineteen something like that. 785 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 1: I just think we've gotten so used to seeing this 786 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 1: from him when he's healthy that it's like, oh, it's 787 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,400 Speaker 1: just TJ. He's thirteen and a half sacks right now 788 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 1: in eleven eleven games is pretty significant. 789 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 2: Kind of historic pacers, you know, we just don't bat 790 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 2: an eye about. I mean, it's bonkers. I mean, and 791 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 2: you mentioned there are some guys sacks are prevalent this year. 792 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 2: There's some a lot of high guy I mean a 793 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 2: lot of guys fighting to get the twenty that have 794 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 2: a chance. 795 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 1: The crazy thing about it, though, is again they give 796 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,880 Speaker 1: him the best chance of all. How many leads has 797 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 1: he been playing with? 798 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 2: Right right, right? 799 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 1: Like, even in Sunday's game, they didn't have a lead 800 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 1: until late in the third quarter. 801 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, where even the Browns game is a slug fest. 802 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:20,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't have an opportunity to get a lot 803 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:21,280 Speaker 1: of sacks. 804 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 2: No, not a lot of long developing plays. They keep 805 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 2: going back to that Browns game. I mean, balls out 806 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 2: before you can even get sacks, you know, which I'm 807 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 2: sure some people occurred, you know, throughout the year two. 808 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,399 Speaker 2: But still, I mean again, I always talk about that 809 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,839 Speaker 2: with over the last five years or so, or even 810 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,439 Speaker 2: the Watt era here, how many times has he been 811 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 2: in Hinzfield, act sure, with terrible tiles of blazing a 812 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:47,400 Speaker 2: ten point lead and five minutes left on the clock. 813 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 1: And the other team gets like two or two possessions 814 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 1: or whatever he is and it doesn't happen past rush time. 815 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 2: Yea, the place is crazy and it's windy and nasty, 816 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:56,919 Speaker 2: and everyone knows the ball that has to come out, 817 00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 2: and he's going to be disruptive. It hasn't happened that 818 00:35:59,160 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 2: much in his career. 819 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,320 Speaker 1: But I will maintain I still think he's the best 820 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,480 Speaker 1: closer in the NFL. Like I think if you went 821 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 1: back and looked at win his sacks occur in the game. 822 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,399 Speaker 1: It's in those situations like when Yeah, when he gets 823 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,759 Speaker 1: an opportunity to close out a game, he just does it. 824 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,400 Speaker 2: I think he's a lot pass rushers in general, I 825 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 2: think are a lot like pictures, you know, the smart ones. 826 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 2: Greg Maddox has this pitch. 827 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:21,439 Speaker 1: In his back pocket, yeah, saving it. 828 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, when I need it, I'm going to brew this 829 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,440 Speaker 2: or you know, just to alter my move or my 830 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 2: motion just a little. And I think he's great at that. 831 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 1: Well that's you know. So I do the pre pregame 832 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 1: show as to you with with Tim Ben's and he 833 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 1: asked me on Sunday, you know, what do you think 834 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 1: all this stuff about the you know, opposing teams calling 835 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,239 Speaker 1: out the Steelers plays or whatever. I said, Well, first 836 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 1: of all, I'd have to know exactly are they calling 837 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 1: out runner pass because that happens all the time, or 838 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,319 Speaker 1: are they saying, you know, watch this or watch that. 839 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 1: You know this year, watch that hook or whatever? I said, 840 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,319 Speaker 1: How do you think TJ. Watt? Why do you think TJ. 841 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 1: Want is so good? One of the reasons he's so 842 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 1: good is because of his film study. Absolutely, yeah, because 843 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,800 Speaker 1: he knows what's coming. Troy Polamalu knew what was coming 844 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:03,399 Speaker 1: because of the film study. That he does. 845 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 2: People think he's a Tasmanian that will just flying around. Yeah, 846 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,840 Speaker 2: and it's very educated and pre planned. Yeah. Does it 847 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,440 Speaker 2: quicker than everybody else too, No, you're right. I mean 848 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:15,759 Speaker 2: offensive tackles have tells with their stance or boy, he's 849 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 2: oversetting me. I'm gonna cross his face on this one. 850 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 2: And but I'm not gonna do it on second. I'm 851 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 2: gonna do it on third. So I'm gonna rush real 852 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:26,520 Speaker 2: heavy upfield. So he right, I mean, so there's a 853 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,200 Speaker 2: lot of that. Then he's as good as anyone in 854 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:28,880 Speaker 2: the game with it. 855 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, just uh it just again. You watch it happen. 856 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 1: You watch him run the gauntlet every week, and teams 857 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 1: try to try to do everything they can to keep 858 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:42,320 Speaker 1: him from just completely disrupting the game, and he always 859 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,279 Speaker 1: disrupts the game, and he somehow finds a way to 860 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:44,960 Speaker 1: disrupt the game. 861 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 2: And his run defense is phenomenal. I think he's I'm 862 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,160 Speaker 2: almost certain he has the most forced fumbles since he's 863 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 2: come in to the league. Yeah, I think he's far 864 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 2: and away number one, even I know he's missed some time. So, 865 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 2: I mean he does those kind of things too that 866 00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 2: don't get a lot of publicity. 867 00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, there were there are people. Uh some put a 868 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:05,640 Speaker 1: video out of him on his last sack on Sunday. Look, 869 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,359 Speaker 1: he's trying to punch the quarterback. No he's not. He's 870 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:09,439 Speaker 1: trying to punch the ball out. 871 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,640 Speaker 2: Difference, right, I mean, he's not trying to take a 872 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 2: cheap shot and punch a guy in the throat or 873 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,120 Speaker 2: you know, and he's trying to get the ball out. 874 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:18,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's allowed. 875 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,319 Speaker 2: It's upper level thought, you know. 876 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, I've got the I've got the sack. Now 877 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:23,719 Speaker 1: I'm going to rip the ball free. 878 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:25,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. And he's not going to be general about it. 879 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:31,319 Speaker 1: No, it's not a general games in the league yet. Absolutely. 880 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,520 Speaker 1: He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly. You're listening 881 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,000 Speaker 1: to the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be 882 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:42,799 Speaker 1: back with more right after this. Welcome back. I am 883 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:46,840 Speaker 1: Dale Lolly. He is the Matt Williamson. And Matt's some 884 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 1: news out of Indianapolis. 885 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:50,360 Speaker 2: On the schedule here. 886 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,080 Speaker 1: Pretty soon, the Steelers play the Colts in three weeks. 887 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:58,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, John Cardinals short week, Patriots long week, Colts. 888 00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,800 Speaker 1: Well, it's longsh that that game is going to be announced. 889 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:05,040 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, wait on you I think it's going to 890 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:09,359 Speaker 1: be on Saturday of that week, so to be, they'll 891 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,600 Speaker 1: have a still history, they'll still have a longer week. 892 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:13,799 Speaker 1: The Colts will still be on a shorter week, and 893 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,880 Speaker 1: on the back end, they may be without Jonathan Taylor 894 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:17,239 Speaker 1: for that game. 895 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, I knew that's where you're going. That's huge news. Yeah, 896 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,240 Speaker 2: he's having surgery today or something. 897 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,359 Speaker 1: Thumb surgery. The Colts hope he'll be back in two 898 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,719 Speaker 1: to three weeks, hope. Now, Moss had played well in 899 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,719 Speaker 1: his he's instead, but he's not. Jonathan Taylor was. 900 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:32,800 Speaker 2: A pretty special player and he I know his numbers 901 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 2: haven't like blown you away, but he looks tremendous. They're 902 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,879 Speaker 2: giving him the football. He's phasing out Moss to some degree, 903 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,240 Speaker 2: as you would expect with the contract. He's in his prime. 904 00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:43,600 Speaker 2: He's a top five running back on the planet. That 905 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:45,320 Speaker 2: you think, I mean in that neighborhood. 906 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, and Moss is you know again, Moss was good. 907 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:53,600 Speaker 1: They beat the Ravens in Baltimore because of Moss. Yeah, 908 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:55,959 Speaker 1: he had like thirty five touches in that game. 909 00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,839 Speaker 2: That trade worked out really well for them. Moss, I mean, 910 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:00,759 Speaker 2: oh yeah, goodness, exactly what they want. You know, we 911 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,919 Speaker 2: love Moss coming out of what Utah. Yeah, we thought 912 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:05,440 Speaker 2: it might be like even a secondor third round pick. 913 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,200 Speaker 1: I think I actually, you know, advocated when I was 914 00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:11,480 Speaker 1: still at dk Pittsburgh Sports a couple of years ago, Uh, 915 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,719 Speaker 1: that Steelers try to trade for Moss when he was 916 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:15,719 Speaker 1: you know, like, yeah, I trade for that. They're not 917 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:19,359 Speaker 1: going to use him in Buffalo. Well, he's he would 918 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,400 Speaker 1: be fine. He would have been a great compliment to 919 00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:22,480 Speaker 1: nausea harrismid. 920 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,680 Speaker 2: You're thinking, like, why didn't Buffalo just keep him and 921 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:26,600 Speaker 2: use him. I don't know, I mean that's exactly what 922 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:30,319 Speaker 2: they need. Yeah, would have rather him than Latavious Murray, And. 923 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,239 Speaker 1: You would think, Yeah, I don't know. 924 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,480 Speaker 2: Buffalo in general was kind of built like a Porsche 925 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:36,439 Speaker 2: or Ferrari, but they should be more like a dumb truck. 926 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:38,920 Speaker 2: You know, you're in Buffalo, in Buffalo, give me a 927 00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:40,160 Speaker 2: big they should have droven baddest. 928 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:40,439 Speaker 1: Yeah. 929 00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:41,640 Speaker 2: I've been saying that for years. 930 00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,279 Speaker 1: You're in Buffalo, Yeah, you know the weather's going to 931 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:44,760 Speaker 1: be bad. 932 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, and if things go well, you're hosting the AFC 933 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:48,680 Speaker 2: Championship game in Buffalo. 934 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:50,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't want to be finesse. 935 00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:53,840 Speaker 2: What does nahem heinz and uh cook do you you know, 936 00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:54,560 Speaker 2: I mean not much? 937 00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:56,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, you throw them the football right right? 938 00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,279 Speaker 2: I don't understand. So yeah, I mean you like their 939 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,439 Speaker 2: D line is all speed guys, you know, Yeah, who's 940 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:03,600 Speaker 2: the big horse in the middle. 941 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,920 Speaker 1: So that's a that's a blow to the Colts and 942 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,040 Speaker 1: you know, everybody because what happens then, okay, you take 943 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,759 Speaker 1: Taylor out of the equation. Now everybody else else has 944 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:17,560 Speaker 1: to bump up a spot. Yeah, you know, now who's Moss? 945 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:18,439 Speaker 2: Who's the two? Yeah? 946 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:19,680 Speaker 1: You know who's the two to Moss? 947 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're Their passing game is very short and 948 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,319 Speaker 2: ball control and all Pittman and downs. You know, they 949 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,600 Speaker 2: don't use a tight end much. Pierce is to take 950 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,000 Speaker 2: the top guy, but he's not real scary, you know. Yeah, 951 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:33,080 Speaker 2: it's pretty condensed offense already at least when you know, 952 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,360 Speaker 2: and as good as Moss is, he's not a game breaker. 953 00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,000 Speaker 1: No, No, he's a great tailor's tailor's a game like 954 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:39,200 Speaker 1: Taylor could take it to the house. 955 00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he has all kinds of long speed. So 956 00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:44,400 Speaker 2: that's a big news. I mean, it's what I had 957 00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:48,560 Speaker 2: saw was hoping to be back in two to three. Yeah, 958 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:49,799 Speaker 2: hoping's great, but I. 959 00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,080 Speaker 1: Mean it's surgery. It's surgery on your thumb. 960 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,399 Speaker 2: I wonder if they lose a few too, if they're like, well, 961 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:56,960 Speaker 2: you know, their season could quickly go down the hill. 962 00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:01,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought. I think for this season, you know, 963 00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:04,040 Speaker 1: this was kind of like it's nice to be in 964 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:04,839 Speaker 1: the playoff hunt. 965 00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:06,520 Speaker 2: It feels like they're playing with house money. 966 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,719 Speaker 1: Yeah you know, quarterback, you lost your quarterback. Yeah, you know, 967 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:11,600 Speaker 1: you're you're doing some nice things this year. 968 00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:15,120 Speaker 2: Play the coach Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I think they've 969 00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:16,880 Speaker 2: all kicked their coverage. I think they have a coach. 970 00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,239 Speaker 2: They hope they have a quarterback they'll see, but they 971 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,279 Speaker 2: have some foundation there for when it gets back. The 972 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:22,560 Speaker 2: old line got back to being good. 973 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:24,640 Speaker 1: Remember last yearous bad. 974 00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:27,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, these guys like Benard Raymond are playing better than 975 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,520 Speaker 2: their second season, so it's not all bad for them, 976 00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:33,560 Speaker 2: but they are kind of playing with house money. 977 00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:37,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, the Viking is going to activate Justin Jefferson 978 00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:39,400 Speaker 1: from in your reserve today. 979 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:39,880 Speaker 2: Good. 980 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:44,279 Speaker 1: They they're another team. This kind of feels like they 981 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,839 Speaker 1: were playing with house money and like they're like, oh, 982 00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,840 Speaker 1: you know, now we lost our quarterback. We're still in it. 983 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,319 Speaker 1: They're still but you lose last night. That was a 984 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:53,400 Speaker 1: bad loss, brutal. 985 00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:57,160 Speaker 2: I mean, so they're odd. They are kind of playing 986 00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:00,399 Speaker 2: with house money too. I mean I think they kept 987 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:04,080 Speaker 2: Dannel Hunter, but they've traded Zadarius Smith, and yeah, they played. 988 00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:05,680 Speaker 1: I think if they knew they were going to be 989 00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:07,920 Speaker 1: in it this year, they wouldn't have traded Zariah Smith. 990 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:10,680 Speaker 2: So too. I think they kind of tried to be 991 00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:14,799 Speaker 2: on that fence of rebuild and win now because they 992 00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,560 Speaker 2: won thirteen games last year. It was a little fluky obviously, 993 00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,200 Speaker 2: and Kirk Cousins at his last, you know, last contract 994 00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:23,960 Speaker 2: year of his contract. But I was talking on today's podcast, 995 00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:27,839 Speaker 2: like they should have like Herndon Hooker, or they should 996 00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:31,879 Speaker 2: have traded for trade lance or like have somebody out 997 00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:32,600 Speaker 2: there that they were. 998 00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,359 Speaker 1: Developing, you know what I mean. 999 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,839 Speaker 2: It could maybe be the starter next year or has 1000 00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,720 Speaker 2: some kind of upside for them. Maybe they bring back Cousins. 1001 00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:42,959 Speaker 2: I don't know, but they must have to at this point. 1002 00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, and if your Cousins, that's probably where you'd like 1003 00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:48,839 Speaker 1: to end up at because Jefferson, Yeah, they're the They're 1004 00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:52,720 Speaker 1: the one team that a knows how your knee rehab 1005 00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:54,719 Speaker 1: is gone, Like anybody else is going to want to 1006 00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:56,759 Speaker 1: bring you in and run you through all kinds of 1007 00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,560 Speaker 1: testing and stuff to you know. They I assume their 1008 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:01,600 Speaker 1: doctors did the surgery, or at least they're in touch 1009 00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:02,799 Speaker 1: with whoever did it. 1010 00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:03,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1011 00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:05,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, so they would have a better idea of how 1012 00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,800 Speaker 1: everything is. You're going you're going to hit free agency 1013 00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:11,439 Speaker 1: with a bad knee or a reconstructed knee. The team 1014 00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,359 Speaker 1: that the team that you know you're coming from, those 1015 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:13,799 Speaker 1: you best. 1016 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, and there definitely would be a market for him. 1017 00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:17,520 Speaker 2: I mean there's ten teams that would love to have 1018 00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:19,560 Speaker 2: a Kirk Cousins on a two three year deal, even 1019 00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:23,759 Speaker 2: if you overpay him. But that knee thing is substantial. Yeah, 1020 00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:25,600 Speaker 2: he's gonna want a lot of guaranteed money. Yeah. 1021 00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,760 Speaker 1: Whose next year's Jets that wants to exactly. 1022 00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,160 Speaker 2: Stick them on Atlanta or something. It'd be it'd be 1023 00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:34,080 Speaker 2: quite good. Yeah. I was worried though you mentioned Jefferson. 1024 00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:36,520 Speaker 2: I didn't think it was as likely with Jefferson. But 1025 00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:38,160 Speaker 2: do you think Higgins plays again? 1026 00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:39,279 Speaker 1: I mean I don't think he does. 1027 00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:40,920 Speaker 2: They're both free agents at the end of the year. 1028 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,800 Speaker 1: I would be some like he has to like, looking 1029 00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,440 Speaker 1: at this now with their loss last week to the Steelers, 1030 00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,880 Speaker 1: Higgins has to be looking just like, I'm not going 1031 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:54,960 Speaker 1: to rush myself back. We're not going anywhere, and I'm 1032 00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:56,400 Speaker 1: going to be a free agent. I don't want to 1033 00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:57,680 Speaker 1: go out there and blow my knee out. 1034 00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:59,800 Speaker 2: Exactly. That's my thoughts too, is like, sometimes you just 1035 00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:01,799 Speaker 2: have to be selfish and be like, I gotta make 1036 00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,480 Speaker 2: a business decision here. I worry Jefferson was doing that 1037 00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:06,600 Speaker 2: lingered a week or two more than he thought it would. 1038 00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:08,600 Speaker 1: You know, well, I think he's being smart with it, like, 1039 00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:10,960 Speaker 1: because once you do what you don't want to happen 1040 00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:14,279 Speaker 1: is you you rush yourself back. And it's kind of 1041 00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,919 Speaker 1: what happened with Pat Friarmouth. You're rushing to get back 1042 00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:19,080 Speaker 1: and then you re injure the hamstring and now you're 1043 00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:20,920 Speaker 1: out for an extended period and then people said leg 1044 00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,080 Speaker 1: and say, well you missed you missed his time. You 1045 00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,719 Speaker 1: know that? Is that that recurring hamstring injury here? Is that? 1046 00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:27,239 Speaker 1: Is that a big issue for you? 1047 00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:30,080 Speaker 2: Yeah? Exactly. And Jefferson's probably gonna be highest paid receiver 1048 00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:32,240 Speaker 2: in the league. Higgins is going to make a fortune. 1049 00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:33,320 Speaker 1: He's going to make a fortune. 1050 00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:34,759 Speaker 2: Jefferson's ever to hit the open market. 1051 00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:36,200 Speaker 1: Higgins will be a Carolina panther. 1052 00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,640 Speaker 2: I think so too. And with an empty, empty check book. 1053 00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:40,480 Speaker 2: Here here in a blank check, take whatever you want. 1054 00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,080 Speaker 1: Come on back home to South Carolina. 1055 00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, thumbson guy, and he'll be I bet he's good 1056 00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:46,560 Speaker 2: for him. But I bet he doesn't pay And I 1057 00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,640 Speaker 2: bet he's not the top five receiver that they'll pay him. 1058 00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:50,799 Speaker 1: But yeah, he'll be getting paid. 1059 00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:52,759 Speaker 2: That he'll be and he should. I get it. But 1060 00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:55,799 Speaker 2: I don't know. That organization is crazy too, a. 1061 00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:56,680 Speaker 1: Little bit, a little bit. 1062 00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:57,240 Speaker 2: Uh. 1063 00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, they had a little press conference today after firing 1064 00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,960 Speaker 1: and Frank Reich their head coach on and several other 1065 00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:03,520 Speaker 1: coaches too. 1066 00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:04,000 Speaker 2: On Monday. 1067 00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:07,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, they just cleaned house. It's amazing to me, like 1068 00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:10,080 Speaker 1: you can you can sweep out like four or five 1069 00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,120 Speaker 1: guys out of your offensive staff and still have enough 1070 00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:15,359 Speaker 1: staff to continue to Yeah, a bunch of you might 1071 00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:17,480 Speaker 1: have been you might have been over staffed a little bit. 1072 00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,000 Speaker 2: And I guess they're paying more than anybody. And you know, 1073 00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:22,400 Speaker 2: he's an odd owner. And I don't know if you 1074 00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,560 Speaker 2: saw the press conference we we talked about it a 1075 00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:26,600 Speaker 2: little bit on today's podcast. He was talking about how 1076 00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:29,160 Speaker 2: you know Stroud versus Young and all these things, and 1077 00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,600 Speaker 2: I'm just sitting and thinking to myself, like, this would 1078 00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:34,879 Speaker 2: never happen in Pittsford. No. Were the owners up there 1079 00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:36,840 Speaker 2: talking about we're thinking about this guy and then we 1080 00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:38,520 Speaker 2: want this guy and you know, like what you why 1081 00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:39,360 Speaker 2: are you telling us this? 1082 00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:41,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't need to know this in the middle 1083 00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:42,239 Speaker 1: of a season. 1084 00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,719 Speaker 2: Middle seasoned your coach and that guy's got to be 1085 00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:45,880 Speaker 2: your quarterback on Sunday. 1086 00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:50,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, appreciate the stability. Yeah, people complain about the stability 1087 00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,000 Speaker 1: of the Steelers all the time. Yeah, well they're just 1088 00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,399 Speaker 1: too setting their waist. There's a reason they're setting there, 1089 00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:59,399 Speaker 1: Like there's a reason you do things. You don't just say, well, 1090 00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:01,760 Speaker 1: we're gonna do it this way. No, you they've learned 1091 00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:03,799 Speaker 1: over the years, like this is the best way to 1092 00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:04,160 Speaker 1: do this. 1093 00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,320 Speaker 2: This is a long season, this is a big process. 1094 00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,319 Speaker 2: You don't have to change on a dime. And what's 1095 00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:13,680 Speaker 2: amazing to me is the Panthers now and the Browns 1096 00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,759 Speaker 2: both had ownership in the Steelers, and they're the two 1097 00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:20,319 Speaker 2: most nothing right, They're the two most reactionary teams in 1098 00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:23,400 Speaker 2: the whole league. Yeah, Like, there's been three coaches in 1099 00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:27,080 Speaker 2: my lifetime and it's worked out pretty well. And I 1100 00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,840 Speaker 2: guess Teffer he owns A he owns some other team. 1101 00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,640 Speaker 2: I forget what sport it is, but he has fired 1102 00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:35,640 Speaker 2: four head coaches in the last three hund and sixty 1103 00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:39,880 Speaker 2: five days, two of each team. He learned nothing, learn nothing. 1104 00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't get it, but I don't have to 1105 00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:46,480 Speaker 1: get it right anyways, Let's get to another break that's 1106 00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:48,360 Speaker 1: going to do it for our number one here on 1107 00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:50,919 Speaker 1: the drive. We'll be back with our number two right 1108 00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:51,319 Speaker 1: after this.