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Speaker 1: So let's begin this week's episode. So I am super

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Speaker 1: excited about this week's episode I have been stalking my

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Speaker 1: guests for a while, and she finally responded to the kid.

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Speaker 1: She is the jackie of all trades and I can't

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Speaker 1: wait for us to die more into her story as

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Speaker 1: a phone sex operator. So to my guests, how are

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Speaker 1: you feeling? I am super excited and thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for allowing me to be on your show. I

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Speaker 1: know I'm gonna love it here, Thick, But how has

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Speaker 1: the pandemic been treating you? Um? It's been okay, It's

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Speaker 1: had it up and downs, you know. Um. I am

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Speaker 1: a service based in the service based industry, and my

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Speaker 1: business is more of a luxury, not necessarily a need,

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Speaker 1: So you know, it's it's been an interesting ride. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm so over it. Um so before I've also been

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Speaker 1: living under a rock? What is a false sex operator? Oh?

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Speaker 1: For those who have been living under a rock of phones?

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Speaker 1: Like I get paid to talk dirty for a living.

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Speaker 1: You know how when your boyfriends and your husband's are

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Speaker 1: on the phone for those intimate moments. I get paid

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Speaker 1: to do that. I'm curious would this be considered as

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Speaker 1: sex works? Because I feel like I really don't hear

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Speaker 1: about this my lot. Um, yes, this is definitely considered

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Speaker 1: sex work. Um, anything that you actually do in the

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Speaker 1: industry is considered sex work. If you are a cam doll,

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Speaker 1: which is you know, you get on camera and you're

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Speaker 1: talking dirty to the guys that you're taking your top off,

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Speaker 1: that is considered sex work. If you are a virtual companion,

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Speaker 1: that's considered sex work. If you are a sugar baby.

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Speaker 1: You know, it all falls under the same realm of

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Speaker 1: sex work. So whatever the requirements to become one a

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Speaker 1: false sex operator, UM, you have to be eighteen twenty one,

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Speaker 1: depending on your area and your state laws. Um, you

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Speaker 1: have you know, back in the day, you have to

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Speaker 1: have a landline. Now you can work from your mobile device,

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Speaker 1: which is fine. I work exclusive, exclusively from my mobile phone. UM,

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Speaker 1: I no longer use my landline anymore, and that allows

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Speaker 1: me the freedom to work anywhere, and I have worked

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Speaker 1: everywhere around the globe. You have to be willing to

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Speaker 1: talk dirty, that's kind of the job. I get a

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Speaker 1: lot of women who come to me assist, but I

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Speaker 1: really don't feel like I should have to talk thirty

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Speaker 1: What is this? What are you here? Is it necessary?

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Speaker 1: Because I think I read somewhere that you don't have

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Speaker 1: to do it something. It is not necessary at all.

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Speaker 1: It's not a actual requirement. But that's also the job

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Speaker 1: that you're in. You get what I'm saying. Um, you

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Speaker 1: can advertise and promote control for your own callers. I

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Speaker 1: prefer quirky collars. I like calls that are not traditional

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Speaker 1: phone sex, you know, so I advertise for the collars

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Speaker 1: that I want. That way, I'm not just sitting here

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Speaker 1: ooing and all on all day. But if I get

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Speaker 1: course I'm gonna do what I'm gonna you know, that's

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Speaker 1: what they're paying me for. So we're are some benefits. Oh.

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Speaker 1: One of the major benefits is you get to set

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Speaker 1: your own rates. There are girls that charge per minute.

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Speaker 1: There are girls that charge per minute. Most definitely a

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Speaker 1: work when I want to work. Being a phone sex

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Speaker 1: operator also allows me the freedom to work where I

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Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of moms think that they

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Speaker 1: can't do this. Is that true? Oh not at all? Um. Well,

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Speaker 1: prior to the pandemic, of course, when your children were

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Speaker 1: if you have them on a schedule, you can work

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Speaker 1: during their naptime, during their playtime. You know, you just

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Speaker 1: callers for their naptime. That way, they're not in the

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Speaker 1: background cutting up and acting up. Right, could you imagine. Um,

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Speaker 1: I also ready that you are a text operator. What

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Speaker 1: is that I get paid to text because I can't

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Speaker 1: always talk on the phone. For those of you who know,

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Speaker 1: I work in several different industries, so talking on the

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Speaker 1: phone isn't always an option for me. But UM, I

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Speaker 1: am paid to text dirty as well. Which one do

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Speaker 1: you prefer? Um? I prefer to text only because I

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Speaker 1: and then I'm not as attentive. Uh huh, I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: what was that? Oh? Yes, daddy right there? You know,

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Speaker 1: so that kind of throws off their mood or whatever.

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Speaker 1: But texting allows me to multitask and do other things

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Speaker 1: and work on other projects while I'm still securing the bag. Now.

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Speaker 1: I know that some people can set their own price,

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Speaker 1: but is there like a standard price? But all who

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Speaker 1: you're not necessarily making any real money if you work

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Speaker 1: for less less than ninety nine cents. Now, how much

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Speaker 1: That depends on you and your hustle. UM. A lot

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Speaker 1: of girls don't make it ninety days in this industry

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Speaker 1: all this money. While it is true that you can

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Speaker 1: make a pretty penny, and I do mean a very

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Speaker 1: pretty penny, there's a lot of work. Number. UM, I'm

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Speaker 1: clearing about thirty five hundred to five KB month depending

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Speaker 1: part time. Also if you was full time, damn exactly.

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Speaker 1: So UM, I tell the girls you have to stick

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Speaker 1: to a schedule. You have to do your your homework,

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Speaker 1: your research. UM, get a niche specify, UM work in

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Speaker 1: a specific area. If you have big boobs, then play

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Speaker 1: to your strengths. UM. If you have a big ask

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Speaker 1: and you should be doing the ass worshiping fetish UM.

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Speaker 1: If you like UM, I can't remember this. Um. If

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Speaker 1: you have long nails, you know there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: girls out here who get those super long, super dramatic nails.

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Speaker 1: There's a nail fetish out there. Cater to your strengths.

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Speaker 1: Do your homework, through your research, so you know about

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Speaker 1: that particular fetish. You know the lingo. So when you're

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Speaker 1: interacting with your clients, you can charge a premium because

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Speaker 1: you are well versed in that niche, in that fetish. Um.

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Speaker 1: I think I learned from your YouTube page that there's

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Speaker 1: a your low fetish. Yes there is, um, yes, Um.

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Speaker 1: I charge people for pictures of my ear lobes. I

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Speaker 1: saw pictures of my ear lobes, my shoulders, my the

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Speaker 1: everybody's out here talking about the foot fetish. This. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I want to make money selling pictures on my feet. Sis,

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Speaker 1: you got other body parts? Right? I feel like the

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Speaker 1: foot fet now, No, no, not at all. I mean

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Speaker 1: it seems that way because everybody has rant the only

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Speaker 1: foot foot. But there are different types of foot fetish.

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Speaker 1: People like big feet, some prefer small feet. Some like

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Speaker 1: array of things that you can cater to in that fetish.

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Speaker 1: Yes you can. They're called tributes. I do require a

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Speaker 1: tribute before a gentleman interacts with me. Um. If I

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Speaker 1: with them. And why is that? Because you're not going

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Speaker 1: Oh I am so sorry? Can I trst on your show? Sweetie? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: You give it up? Okay, because listen, that's why I

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Speaker 1: So you can curse, okay, because I won't be disrespectful. Now,

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Speaker 1: you you you ain't gonna waste my time. You know,

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Speaker 1: adult learn be all damn you exactly. So if you

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Speaker 1: One thing I learned from your YouTube page is that

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Speaker 1: you pay taxes. Yes, you do have to do taxes.

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Speaker 1: You are an independent contractor as an adult entertainer, so

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Speaker 1: the same way freelancers and freelance photographers have to pay taxes.

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Speaker 1: As an adult entertainer, you have to pay taxes as well.

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Speaker 1: This also goes for cam dolls, panty sellers, fetish contents, um,

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Speaker 1: professional hula hoopers, strippers. We all have to pay taxes

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Speaker 1: because this is a legal business. Now, can you work

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Speaker 1: the job they need, branch out and start doing things

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Speaker 1: or they all the same. There's different types of companies.

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Speaker 1: Um right now might go to my main my bay,

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Speaker 1: I tell everybody in a Mama to start with there.

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Speaker 1: First of all, they one who offers the highest payouts

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Speaker 1: get seventy, they keep thirty. And here's a little trick

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Speaker 1: you know, now, um, increase your prices by that way

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Speaker 1: nine nine permit it because I remember I called myself.

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00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 1: Who is she talking to you? He's like, bit she

427
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 1: talking to you? This is what he called this. Um

428
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:23,679
Speaker 1: And I tell girls all the time, listen, if you

429
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 1: know that it's not your thing, you know you cannot

430
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 1: handle it, don't do it. Um. I know a lot

431
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,680
Speaker 1: of girls come into this industry because they're caught between

432
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 1: a rock and hard spot. You know, they have certain

433
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 1: traumas and triggers that they're dealing with. If you know

434
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 1: something that's going to set you off, don't do it. Um.

435
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 1: A lot of girls aren't successful in this in this

436
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 1: industry because they can't separate work from the person. UM.

437
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,920
Speaker 1: I tell girls all the time, this is what you do.

438
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 1: This is not who you are, if that makes sense.

439
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,159
Speaker 1: So when you come into the industry and this is

440
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 1: what you want to do, and you know they're calling

441
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,879
Speaker 1: you all kinds of sluts and whars and or whatever

442
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,880
Speaker 1: gets their goats, you know a lot of girls at

443
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:12,680
Speaker 1: the end of the shift they're like, you know, I

444
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,119
Speaker 1: just I just feel down. I feel bad, like sis

445
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 1: for what you know, he was calling me all these names.

446
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 1: Who you are he has yeah, and he has no

447
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 1: clue who you are. You are an actress, You are

448
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 1: portraying a character. Um, what does that guy's name on

449
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 1: the plate the throw the Players Club? Julia yea yeah, Jr. Listen,

450
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 1: I am pretty sure that is not who he is

451
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 1: in real life, one who raped on Ebony. That is

452
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:50,199
Speaker 1: a character who are Ebony? Uh huh? I mean in

453
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:55,440
Speaker 1: real life? I steal with trust Is, But I'm pretty

454
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 1: sure that's not who he is. So how do you

455
00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 1: ever received a call that was too much for you?

456
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:07,160
Speaker 1: I did, um, and this wasn't even surprisingly enough, this

457
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 1: wasn't even in the adult entertainment industry. I'm also an

458
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 1: e SL consultant. I teach for fifteen different companies and

459
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 1: I was working with this one company and one of

460
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,439
Speaker 1: my students called, and you know, I'm teaching my student,

461
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 1: but she had a very creepy voice. It made me like, um,

462
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 1: like scary movie creepy, like the Ring creepy. And I

463
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 1: have and I hate to say this, but she was

464
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 1: one of my best students. Um, she paid on time,

465
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 1: she booked me four or five times a week. But

466
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:49,119
Speaker 1: her voice, to my core girl, I couldn't even explain

467
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 1: it to you. It's it's just it's real scary movie

468
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:56,399
Speaker 1: vibes and you know, you know when they pick up

469
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 1: the phone and you hear that voice on the other

470
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 1: line and three is it's And she would you know,

471
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 1: she would call it UM, call the system whatever. And

472
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,159
Speaker 1: I've been trying to teach her and I'm assiking her

473
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 1: questions and I would get cold. The hair on the

474
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 1: back of mynd stand up like I couldn't teach any

475
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 1: more classes after she had to be my last class

476
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 1: of the day because it crept me out so bad.

477
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 1: So I was like, you know what, yeah, and I

478
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 1: quit that particular company because SYSCOMNNA keep trying to book

479
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 1: my classes and I don't want no smoke. So in

480
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 1: those cases, do you have to like UM for stuff

481
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 1: like that? Yes? I did have to mentally prepare myself

482
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 1: for classes with her because I always got an unders

483
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 1: feeling and usually when I get that feeling in the

484
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 1: pit of my stomach, I am never wrong. Something horrible

485
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 1: is going to happen. So I taught her for about

486
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 1: two three months and after that was like, no, what,

487
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 1: I can't keep doing this to myself because I can't

488
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 1: function after dealing with her. So I tell UM. So

489
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 1: for the girls in the industry, if you get a

490
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 1: caller like that who just gives you the hebe geeps

491
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 1: who make you th kind of way the cline, motherfucking

492
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 1: call money and good money. And I'd rather see you healthy, happy,

493
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 1: insane than to be in a mental institution somewhere behind

494
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 1: a call that the girls bug out because of that. Yes, um,

495
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 1: I mean not a lot of girls, but I do

496
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 1: know of a couple of girls who kind of lost

497
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 1: your ship. But you know it's due to previous traumas

498
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 1: that were triggered during their calls. And you know that's

499
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 1: why I tell them, Hey, you know, if you know

500
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 1: you have triggers, put on your profile, putting when you're promoting.

501
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 1: You don't do an X, Y and Z. You know

502
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 1: some girls you know you know I I'm okay within

503
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 1: sess calls. Um, I know other girls aren't because of

504
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 1: previous situations in their history. So if incest calls or

505
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 1: is a trigger for you put in your profile, you

506
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 1: do not do incest calls under any circumstances, any mention

507
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 1: of incests. You will disconnect the call immediately. That's it.

508
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 1: That's all. Stand firm on your boundaries. So have you

509
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 1: ever want to meet up with a customer outside of work.

510
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 1: Have I ever wanted to yes talk about listen, I

511
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 1: am as I'm a sucker for a for a deep voice,

512
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 1: for a nasty motherfucker with voice I'm talking about very

513
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 1: white deep and had this caller we'll call him James.

514
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 1: James will hit my line twice the week and he

515
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 1: had the deepest, richest voice, and this motherfucker was nasty,

516
00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 1: and I, girl, I was ready to risk it. Oh,

517
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 1: details like, because we like a nasty know we do.

518
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 1: You know, even in my personal life, you know, during sex,

519
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 1: I like to be talked dirty too. So he was

520
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 1: talking dirty to me, and it was like, you know,

521
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 1: he's right there in my and y'all know I like

522
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 1: to like oiscing. Listen, girl, I got me putting all

523
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 1: my buses that here, go ahead, so let's get your

524
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 1: shut off. What's it like? Got me reminiscent and shit

525
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 1: and my feelings. But his voice was so rich and

526
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 1: so velvety, and he was talking all this nasty ship

527
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 1: where he was gonna do to me, you know, rub

528
00:31:55,920 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 1: me up, flip me out, listen happening. I was like, bro, like,

529
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 1: you know, we got sitting in a call one day

530
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 1: and I was like, so I don't know who's listening.

531
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 1: But you know, on social media, you know, you if

532
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 1: you're looking for somebody, you know, you just gotta type

533
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 1: in her name. Stay up, dude, I'm trying to put

534
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 1: my info out there so you know he could reach

535
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 1: out because I couldn't ask him for I don't know,

536
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 1: because I get a lot of guys in my inbox,

537
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 1: and although I am cordial with them, I am professional

538
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: with them. You know, I don't hand them my assens

539
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 1: or anything. I also have a stranger danger complex. So

540
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 1: even if he didn't, even if he did reach out

541
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 1: on something, okay, I'm just going to approach her as

542
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 1: just a gentleman who's just interested in her. You know,

543
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 1: if he didn't say he was one of my callers,

544
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 1: you know I talked to you on night for it

545
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 1: or whatever, I wouldn't find the exchange no personal information

546
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 1: with this man. So he could have reached doubt and

547
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 1: I just not know it. But as of yet, I

548
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 1: don't know if you've reached out or not. But listen.

549
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 1: If you're out there and you're listening, what's up? Wait?

550
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 1: Is it hard for you to date being in this industry? No?

551
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 1: Because I am open and honest about my shenanigans. Um,

552
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 1: I there is no secret to what I do. I

553
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 1: post everything online on social media. I put all of

554
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 1: our cards on the table. Um when yes, ma'am and

555
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: I you know, when people are interested in me romantically,

556
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 1: I tell them listen, I am an online adult entertainer.

557
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: That is not going to stop. My ultimate goal in

558
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 1: life is to be a trophy wife. If that is

559
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 1: not your cup of teeth, then by all means, keep

560
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 1: it pushing, no love lost, no hard feelings. I do

561
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 1: not split bills. I I don't cook. I mean, I

562
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 1: mean I clean, but I don't cook. You know, cooking

563
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,719
Speaker 1: it is not my ministry. I do not cook from

564
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 1: a place of joy, from a place of happiness. I

565
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 1: cook out of necessity and obligation and requirements. And I

566
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 1: frequent Swinkers clubs and I'm not planning on giving up

567
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 1: my membership to any of the clubs that I frequent.

568
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 1: So if you aren't with none of that, then, by

569
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 1: all means, I wish you the best of luck on

570
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,879
Speaker 1: your search, but I get it for you. I like that, though,

571
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 1: because I feel like you have to be straightforward with people,

572
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 1: like listen, this is what you're gonna get ain't know

573
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 1: in is bus about it? Okay mm hmmm. And I

574
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 1: stand firm on my boundaries. Those are my boundaries. I'm

575
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 1: not willing to waiver. I'm not willing to bend. So

576
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 1: if you decide that you still are interested in me,

577
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 1: you still want to deal with me, this is what

578
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 1: it This is what it's going to cost you to

579
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,359
Speaker 1: deal with me. Now, how long would you be being

580
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,800
Speaker 1: an erotic content creator and a camp model? You also

581
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 1: sell your panties? How did that come about? Oh? That

582
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:01,439
Speaker 1: started back when I was happily stripping. Um, I would

583
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: have guys would ye? Girl? I I do live a

584
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 1: very interesting life only because traditional forms of employment just

585
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 1: aren't my jam. And that's what UM. That's why I

586
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 1: am on social media as transparent as I am to

587
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 1: show other women that traditional form of employment may not

588
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 1: be for you. You have other options available. A regular

589
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 1: nine to five has never worked for me. UM. I

590
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 1: dyed my hair all kinds of colors. At one point

591
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: in time, my hair was lime green, it was March

592
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 1: Simpson blue. UM. For a few years, my hair is

593
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 1: cotton candy pink. I have piercings in my face. You know,

594
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 1: I had this big gass tattoo on my forearm. So

595
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 1: even when I was education based, you know, I have

596
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: my master's degree in education, pursuing in education. Uh hum.

597
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 1: So even when I was in the classroom actively teaching,

598
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 1: you know, my personality is still big and larger than life.

599
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 1: And you know, my classes were lit. You know, I

600
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 1: was having fun with my students, and parents would complain

601
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 1: because well, every time I come in there, they're playing. No,

602
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:18,800
Speaker 1: your students are actively engaged. Um, I'm a non traditional teacher.

603
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 1: You know, as long as I'm still meeting the industry standards.

604
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 1: How we get there shouldn't matter as long as we're

605
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:29,439
Speaker 1: still meeting our mark. So, like I said, traditional forms

606
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 1: of employment just don't work for me because of my

607
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 1: personality and who I am as a person, as an individual.

608
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 1: So I try to find alternative forms of employment that

609
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 1: allowed me to be me, that allowed me to be quirky,

610
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: be fun, being tergetic, wild, to be free. So then

611
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 1: how are you talking about with the whole painting thing?

612
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,879
Speaker 1: Is that you were stripping and used Oh oh yes,

613
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 1: I was broke. I'd be going continuous, but I think

614
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: you're bringing because I feel like people think they have

615
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: to be one dimensional in order to get where they

616
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 1: need to get to. And you don't have to be

617
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 1: like that in order to succeed. M hm, not at all.

618
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 1: There is over a seven people in the world. That

619
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 1: means there's over seven different types of personalities, different kind

620
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,879
Speaker 1: of job opportunities. You just have to create your own

621
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:25,839
Speaker 1: land and do what works best for you. But as

622
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 1: far as the panti selling goes, I was stripping back

623
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 1: in the day and one of my clients would literally

624
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 1: when I would take much you know you, when you strip,

625
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: you take the blows off and ship. I would take

626
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: my bottoms off and my client would talk at them

627
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:42,399
Speaker 1: all the time, and I'm like, dude, like give me

628
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 1: my dance bottoms, like I got another set to do

629
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 1: one stead of manute saying you over here fucking with

630
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 1: my money. He was like, no, but I just want

631
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: them so well, these should say cheap. You know my

632
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 1: understand it's a little piece of that. It's the fabric

633
00:37:55,320 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: called Fords six. Right. You have to either run me

634
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 1: my panties or run me some coin. He's like, I'll

635
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: just pay you for it. And he just started paying

636
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:10,320
Speaker 1: me for him and I was like, you realize's just

637
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 1: gonna buy my bottoms like this, Like I had a

638
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Speaker 1: dance back full of tops, but no fucking bottoms because

639
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Speaker 1: every time I would take them off when I would

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Speaker 1: dance for him, he would So can you make a

641
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Speaker 1: lot of money selling selling on panting because I feel

642
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 1: like that's a that's a thing now too. Yes, it is,

643
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Speaker 1: um and it became. It was always popular, but um,

644
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 1: regular women weren't interested in it, didn't know nothing about

645
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Speaker 1: it until or just the New Black, you know, when

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Speaker 1: they had a I Want not a mini episode co

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Speaker 1: and went three or four episodes dealing with the whole

648
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 1: panty selling thing or whatever. Um, then a lot of

649
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,280
Speaker 1: women like, oh my gosh, I can sell my panties.

650
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 1: I didn't know that was a thing. Yeah, it's been

651
00:38:54,120 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 1: a thing, and I know there's a site now, there's

652
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: a couple of sites out there. Um, I my base

653
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 1: rates starts and and then you think about it. You know,

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Speaker 1: you can go to Victoria's Secrets. They got what the

655
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 1: three for thirty five or five for thirt I don't

656
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 1: know my booty too, beauty the shafter Victoria's Secret. So, um,

657
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 1: you can go to Rainbow and get panties for like

658
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 1: mm hmm right or um, even if you get your

659
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 1: panties custom made or you make your own panties, because

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00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 1: that's the thing. Also, my base price starts at fifty

661
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Speaker 1: dollars for us to even have a conversation about my panties,

662
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 1: fifth and ells off top. I don't sell them less

663
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Speaker 1: for fifty bucks. Um. Some guys want you to wear

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00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,359
Speaker 1: them two or three days. I charge an additional fee

665
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 1: for extra day. Some guys want to see you in

666
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,760
Speaker 1: a picture of your panties. I charged for the picture

667
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 1: of my Pantif meet in those panties, they want you

668
00:39:56,440 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 1: to orgasm in your panties, I charge additional fees for that.

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Speaker 1: So you can make quite a pretty penny selling yours,

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00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,320
Speaker 1: and not just your pennies. You can sell your bras,

671
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 1: your shoes, your socks, the razors from when you shave

672
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 1: your legs. I yes, ma'am, I no longer shave. I

673
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: get waxed so I have some money. Come with me

674
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: when I go get waxed, to record me getting waxed,

675
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 1: and I sell the video content. You're not playing with

676
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 1: this bag, baby, not at all. I'm selling everything but

677
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 1: the kids just saying I like to make the joke,

678
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,959
Speaker 1: do everything it's up for sell ass and move weight

679
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 1: and for legal purposes. I would ever admit to for

680
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 1: advice that you do with it. Now. I know you

681
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 1: have an academy where you teach women about becoming a

682
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 1: phone sex operator. Can you tellch a little bit about that? Um? Um, No,

683
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 1: I can't. I was actually working with the academy, but

684
00:40:56,320 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 1: we are no long But I still do no not mine,

685
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 1: not mine, you know. I just I support black women

686
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:08,240
Speaker 1: in the industry. I support my own social circle before

687
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 1: I go out and spend money elsewhere. So they were

688
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 1: already doing it and up and running this ship. So

689
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, what's this y'all out here already doing

690
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 1: it and that funk with y'all heavy, So let me

691
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 1: assis to do what I can. But we're no longer

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00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 1: in partnership together, so I do my own thing on

693
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 1: the side. I still mentor women. I still help women,

694
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:32,439
Speaker 1: it's just no longer. Because I was looking at looking

695
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 1: at one of your YouTube videos and you've got a

696
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 1: lot of callers on Earth. Yeah I do. Um, I've

697
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 1: helped over women, and I want to say it's more

698
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 1: than that. I don't necessarily keep counting because for one,

699
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 1: I that that kind of time and I'm always posting

700
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:59,399
Speaker 1: free game on Facebook and stuff like that and giving

701
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 1: out resource or says that when I when I learned something,

702
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 1: I want to teach the next assists. I just learned

703
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 1: how to do this, came here, Let me show you,

704
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 1: let me teach you. Um. I started the BAY group

705
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 1: on Facebook. Facebook. Um, it's a Facebook group for black

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00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 1: adult entertainers, you know, the Bay Group. And it's because

707
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 1: when I've noticed when I was in these other groups

708
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 1: where it was a mixture, a mixed crowd in there,

709
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 1: all of the girls, all the black girls. When they

710
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 1: would ask questions or ask for help or need resources

711
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 1: or whatever, they would get overlooked. Their posts would get deleted. Um,

712
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: they would get condescending remarks since night comments and ship. Um,

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00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 1: black women already have to work twice as hard for

714
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 1: half as much in this industry. I'm not going. You know,

715
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,359
Speaker 1: we shouldn't have to be in the space where you're

716
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 1: handing us you're asked to kiss every day. So I

717
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 1: decided to be the chance that I wanted to see

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00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: in the world. And it's okay. I don't like the

719
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 1: way these groups are being ran. Let me start my

720
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 1: own group. That way I can make sure the black

721
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,720
Speaker 1: women are getting the resources and the information that they need.

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00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: And I was talking to my other home girl, she's escort.

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00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 1: She was telling me how there's a lot of racism

724
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 1: within the sex working industry, which is funked up. There

725
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 1: is very much so, but then yeah, I'm not surprised

726
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 1: because most definitely, like in any industry that we're in,

727
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 1: we have to work twice as hard for half as much.

728
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 1: Even in my ESL communities. You know, I teach you

729
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 1: on mine and ship, and it's the same thing when

730
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 1: the black teachers are in these other groups, these predominantly

731
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 1: white groups, and we asked questions, we get attacked. Um,

732
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 1: then when we you know, snap back and ship, they

733
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 1: want to cry and be a victim all of a sudden.

734
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 1: And it's the same way. So it doesn't matter what

735
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 1: industry you're in. White people still saw what they did

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00:43:54,120 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 1: a capital hill, capital hill climbing walls and ship. K girl,

737
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 1: have that been U listen a whole different airline. You

738
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,840
Speaker 1: already know. But before we leave, I'm just curious, and

739
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 1: I feel like we all have a financial goal, but

740
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 1: I feel like you you're trying to get to a

741
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 1: certain goal, are you Because you do a lot girl

742
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: piezds ain't cheap. Um, I don't necessarily have a financial goal. Um.

743
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 1: At one point in time, oh two point in times

744
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 1: in life, I found myself homeless, and had I had

745
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 1: the resources and the knowledge that I have now that

746
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 1: I did not have back then, I would not have

747
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 1: found myself in those positions. So my only goal is

748
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:48,399
Speaker 1: to never be homeless again. That's a fact. Where are

749
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 1: you proud of all things that you've accomplished so far?

750
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 1: Very much so? UM, I listen, I have come a

751
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 1: long way. And this is the conversation for another time.

752
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 1: I hope invited back to go into more detail. But um,

753
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 1: from where I started to where I am today, says,

754
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 1: this is nothing of growth. I am not supposed to

755
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 1: be here, you mean, So for me to be here

756
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 1: and to have accomplished all that I've accomplished, to be

757
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:27,399
Speaker 1: pursuing my PhD, to have a brand that's growing and

758
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: that's positive, to actually be doing something with my life,

759
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 1: that's a huge accomplishment and itself. Well, I appreciate you

760
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 1: for taking the time about your schedule to come speak

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00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:43,839
Speaker 1: to us, and I definitely want to invite you back

762
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 1: to the show because I know you have a story

763
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 1: because you were a lot of hats in your time. Yeah, yeah,

764
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:53,839
Speaker 1: we we, We don't have to talk. You know, next time,

765
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 1: I have to get a ball of tequila bring the

766
00:45:56,600 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 1: tissues because you want to add so I guess I

767
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 1: say hi, Hey girl, Hey. Please make sure to email

768
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 1: me at hello at the Professional homegirl dot com. And

769
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 1: until next time, everyone Later Yah