WEBVTT - Welcome Back Wahler 0:00:01.240 --> 0:00:04.280 This is a Wells cast with Wells, Adams and I 0:00:04.400 --> 0:00:10.880 Heart Radio podcast. Do you guys missed me? You're like, 0:00:12.600 --> 0:00:19.160 is Wells? Okay, we're concerned about as well being as 0:00:19.200 --> 0:00:23.639 you should have been because your boy was m I 0:00:23.720 --> 0:00:25.360 a guess I can talk about it now. I mean, 0:00:25.400 --> 0:00:27.320 but I assume you guys figured what I was doing. 0:00:27.400 --> 0:00:29.960 I was gone. I was filming a reality TV show 0:00:30.240 --> 0:00:32.360 called Bachelor in Paradise. Not sure if you've heard of it. 0:00:32.479 --> 0:00:37.120 If you haven't, you should tune in ABC starting August six. 0:00:37.680 --> 0:00:39.280 I'll be there if you are a big fan of 0:00:39.320 --> 0:00:41.320 a bachelorom Paradise. Today was actually a big day because 0:00:41.320 --> 0:00:45.159 they announced the cast, so I can talk about who 0:00:45.240 --> 0:00:47.680 I had to bartend for this year and say things 0:00:47.720 --> 0:00:50.160 like I'm sorry if you did not receive Rose, please 0:00:50.159 --> 0:00:52.600 take a moment and say your goodbyes, which is harder 0:00:52.640 --> 0:00:56.840 than you think. Actually, I'm being completely honest. So here's 0:00:56.880 --> 0:00:59.920 who ABC released as the Bachelor in Paradise cast. And 0:01:00.120 --> 0:01:03.560 just so you know, there will be more people coming 0:01:03.680 --> 0:01:07.720 than that was released today, because obviously some people are 0:01:07.760 --> 0:01:10.759 still on Katie season. And if you announced that they 0:01:10.920 --> 0:01:13.360 will are in Bachelor in Paradise, then you know that 0:01:13.400 --> 0:01:16.559 they will, not, of course, win the love of Katie 0:01:16.560 --> 0:01:19.040 Thurston at the end of the bat Shore. But here's 0:01:19.040 --> 0:01:23.520 who they can announce. Got Abigail America sweetheart, got a lover. 0:01:24.000 --> 0:01:29.000 You got Brendan Deandra Sweetie. You got Ivan just sena 0:01:29.160 --> 0:01:33.280 grocery store Joe Carl with the k Kelsey a k 0:01:33.480 --> 0:01:36.920 a champagne gate. You got boy band manager also known 0:01:36.959 --> 0:01:40.160 as Kenny with great hair. You got Mari. You've got Marissa. 0:01:40.200 --> 0:01:44.720 You got Natasha. We got Young Noah, A Serena another Serena. 0:01:44.920 --> 0:01:47.160 You've got the Tajuan. I don't know if you remember 0:01:47.160 --> 0:01:50.520 ta Juan, but last time she came to Paradise, she 0:01:50.560 --> 0:01:54.200 couldn't stop sweating. She freaked out on some crabs. Understandable, 0:01:54.360 --> 0:01:56.680 she yelled into the ocean, she ate spaghetti in the 0:01:56.680 --> 0:01:59.640 pool and then left all within like twenty minutes of 0:01:59.680 --> 0:02:02.800 getting there. Who else is coming, Oh, Queen Victoria will 0:02:02.840 --> 0:02:05.880 be there. And speaking of Victoria's Victoria Paul. And that 0:02:06.040 --> 0:02:08.880 is the announcement that ABC made the day. And I 0:02:08.919 --> 0:02:11.079 guess I haven't been on the show since they announced it. 0:02:11.080 --> 0:02:13.359 I'll be bartending and then I'll also be doing other 0:02:13.360 --> 0:02:16.840 stuff there. The official role is master of ceremonies, which 0:02:16.880 --> 0:02:19.680 is funny because I am a master of nothing. Maybe 0:02:19.680 --> 0:02:25.160 a master of baters. Oh that's a whack off joke. Anyways, 0:02:25.200 --> 0:02:26.680 excited for that to come out. I think you guys 0:02:26.680 --> 0:02:28.760 are really gonna love the season. It's gonna be amazing. 0:02:28.760 --> 0:02:31.360 It's gonna be drama, it's gonna be romance, it's gonna 0:02:31.360 --> 0:02:36.000 be all those things. Speaking of whoa Hills last night, Bro, 0:02:36.200 --> 0:02:40.919 what happened the Pratts getting not crazy? They did a 0:02:41.000 --> 0:02:43.359 center their chakras. Man, they need to throw some more 0:02:43.360 --> 0:02:47.520 crystals around their neck because guys, you're going harden the paints. 0:02:47.919 --> 0:02:50.000 It seems like you're kind of vosh de siding yourself 0:02:50.000 --> 0:02:52.000 from the group, just saying and the guy that was 0:02:52.080 --> 0:02:55.000 kind of that. The epicenter of all the Pratt drama 0:02:55.360 --> 0:02:58.200 is Jason Waller, who is going to be my guest 0:02:58.240 --> 0:03:01.440 on this show today. Big thing to Amy and Danielle 0:03:01.480 --> 0:03:04.680 for filling in last week when they had Ashley, Jason's 0:03:05.000 --> 0:03:07.440 lovely wife on the show and she dropped some bombs. 0:03:07.520 --> 0:03:10.800 Dude talking about how's the group chat that the Prats 0:03:10.840 --> 0:03:12.920 aren't in, talking about how they all get together with 0:03:12.919 --> 0:03:15.639 the Prats don't come, kind of crazy, kind of juicy. 0:03:15.760 --> 0:03:19.520 We've had Jason on before and he's always been super honest, 0:03:19.960 --> 0:03:22.960 super transparent, love the dude to death, but I kind 0:03:23.000 --> 0:03:25.120 of felt bad for him in the episode last night. 0:03:25.400 --> 0:03:27.359 It seems like people are coming at him hard, making 0:03:27.440 --> 0:03:31.200 up stuff that's not true. Also on cool if you're 0:03:31.560 --> 0:03:34.880 a recovering addict like he is. So we're gonna take 0:03:34.880 --> 0:03:38.200 on the entire thing. Oh also, we're gonna have someone 0:03:38.240 --> 0:03:39.880 from c S two key on the show as well, 0:03:40.040 --> 0:03:43.720 because we're just talking all weird MTV shows at this point. 0:03:44.080 --> 0:03:46.480 Soon we're gonna do like a check in with Rob 0:03:46.520 --> 0:03:50.960 Dear Dick about ridiculousness and then like's it Tiffany Amberthessen, 0:03:51.200 --> 0:03:54.560 who's unlike delicious nous and now there's like a cutiness. 0:03:54.600 --> 0:03:58.520 They're just taking ship that works and repackaging it at 0:03:58.560 --> 0:04:02.040 this point. Ain't broke, don't fix. That's what my dad 0:04:02.040 --> 0:04:06.360 always says. All right, break, come back, Jason. We gotta 0:04:06.400 --> 0:04:10.160 know what's going on, bro because that was crazy last night. 0:04:12.240 --> 0:04:21.440 Over there, back and better than ever. The Man, the 0:04:21.480 --> 0:04:23.720 midth the Legend, my favorite person to ever come on. 0:04:23.760 --> 0:04:27.320 The Hills Cast, Slash Wells Cast, Jason Waller, how are you, 0:04:27.360 --> 0:04:30.080 my man, good man? How are you appreciate you having 0:04:30.080 --> 0:04:32.479 me back? Yeah? I mean I was out of town. 0:04:32.600 --> 0:04:35.680 I was I was working over in Mexico filming b 0:04:35.839 --> 0:04:40.119 I p so Amy and I believe Dan Yelle filled 0:04:40.120 --> 0:04:42.560 in for me last week and they had your beautiful 0:04:42.600 --> 0:04:45.960 bride on the show and I was listening back and 0:04:46.200 --> 0:04:48.400 your girl didn't hold me punches last week, and I 0:04:48.480 --> 0:04:51.159 kind of loved it. Well, no, man, I mean, enough 0:04:51.200 --> 0:04:54.320 gets too enough. And we fought very hard for where 0:04:54.320 --> 0:04:57.120 we're at. When you talk about very sensitive stuff that 0:04:57.160 --> 0:04:59.960 we've lived through, and and uh, you hear those typ 0:05:00.200 --> 0:05:02.800 of things, Um, you know it's you're going to get 0:05:02.800 --> 0:05:05.200 the real raw side. It's you know, there was some 0:05:05.440 --> 0:05:08.640 there was some very hurtful moments that as that transpired. 0:05:08.960 --> 0:05:11.440 We had you on the show earlier in this season, 0:05:11.480 --> 0:05:13.719 and you kind of teed it up for us, or 0:05:13.800 --> 0:05:16.800 teased it a little bit, and then seeing it, I 0:05:16.839 --> 0:05:20.480 think I was even a little more disgusted by it, 0:05:20.880 --> 0:05:23.320 if I'm being completely honest with you. I mean, we've 0:05:23.360 --> 0:05:26.440 talked about, you know, your recovery on this show, and 0:05:26.640 --> 0:05:29.320 I've always applauded you for just how honest you are 0:05:29.680 --> 0:05:33.880 and how transparent you are amidst a world of people 0:05:33.920 --> 0:05:36.400 who I think are less than that. I think I 0:05:36.440 --> 0:05:39.760 told you maybe last season that it's something that hits 0:05:39.800 --> 0:05:44.160 home for me because I lost two cousins to substance 0:05:44.200 --> 0:05:49.159 abuse issues, and it's so not something to joke around 0:05:49.200 --> 0:05:53.239 about or make light of or even use against people 0:05:53.279 --> 0:05:57.640 in arguments. And when Spencer said what he said at 0:05:57.680 --> 0:06:01.080 that dinner party, I was like, you really cross the 0:06:01.120 --> 0:06:04.360 line here, regardless of who's right or who's wrong. That 0:06:04.480 --> 0:06:07.200 was very very out of bounds. And it was funny 0:06:07.240 --> 0:06:11.919 to see the group collectively go, WHOA not cool? It 0:06:12.080 --> 0:06:14.360 was next level, dude, It was next level. And I 0:06:14.440 --> 0:06:16.440 think the biggest part of that is is for those 0:06:16.480 --> 0:06:19.520 that don't remember, is we were trying to develop a 0:06:19.520 --> 0:06:22.359 relationship last season, right We were trying to be open 0:06:22.440 --> 0:06:24.600 and friendly with the Rats, and I opened up to 0:06:24.680 --> 0:06:26.680 him about some very vulnerable stuff and he ended up 0:06:26.760 --> 0:06:29.960 utilizing using that as Ammo down the road. It's just 0:06:30.000 --> 0:06:32.640 totally unacceptable, totally uncalled for. And it just goes to 0:06:32.640 --> 0:06:35.640 show that how you know, uneducated and naive they are 0:06:35.680 --> 0:06:37.560 when it comes to substance abuse, some mental health and 0:06:37.600 --> 0:06:39.760 what people really go through on a on a daily struggle. 0:06:39.800 --> 0:06:42.320 Like you said, seeing the cast response to it was 0:06:42.480 --> 0:06:44.560 basically what you you know, all you needed to see 0:06:44.600 --> 0:06:47.560 of how distasteful and disrespectful it was. It just seems 0:06:47.600 --> 0:06:50.279 like that no one really wants to be friends with them, 0:06:50.600 --> 0:06:53.520 like they're just kind of there because they're a part 0:06:53.520 --> 0:06:56.320 of the show. Everyone's kind of done with their ship. 0:06:56.680 --> 0:06:59.080 Well yeah, but also, I mean you can see through 0:06:59.240 --> 0:07:01.760 this the episode, it's people don't also just don't want 0:07:01.760 --> 0:07:04.080 to deal with the wrath of them because it becomes 0:07:04.120 --> 0:07:06.880 you become an obsessive target. Whereas for us is like, dude, 0:07:06.880 --> 0:07:08.520 we're gonna stick up for what's right. You know, We're 0:07:08.560 --> 0:07:11.200 not we could care less and getting into it with them, 0:07:11.200 --> 0:07:12.720 but we're also going to stand our ground. We're not 0:07:12.760 --> 0:07:15.280 going to tolerate their craft. Dude, it's childish and to 0:07:15.320 --> 0:07:17.240 get engaged with that. Unfortunately, it was a big part 0:07:17.240 --> 0:07:18.680 of our life. I mean, we were around them for 0:07:18.920 --> 0:07:21.520 you know, the last thirteen months, and it's not just 0:07:21.560 --> 0:07:23.680 as easy as being able to separate from that, especially 0:07:23.680 --> 0:07:25.240 when you constantly hear it. And I think the really 0:07:25.240 --> 0:07:27.720 sad part is is it was actually a lot worse 0:07:27.720 --> 0:07:30.280 than what they even showed. There was. There was more 0:07:30.400 --> 0:07:33.240 that you did not see. Me and Ashley kind of 0:07:33.240 --> 0:07:36.160 looked at each other last night we watched and we're like, wow, 0:07:36.440 --> 0:07:38.800 they didn't even There was a lot more stuff. The 0:07:38.880 --> 0:07:40.960 comment that they made, you know, the big the big 0:07:40.960 --> 0:07:43.040 thing that Spencer said it was around the relapse and 0:07:43.760 --> 0:07:46.600 different stuff like that. But there were still comments and 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:49.840 conversations that I'm surprised they didn't show to even show 0:07:50.040 --> 0:07:52.440 you know, how distasteful it really got. So it was 0:07:52.560 --> 0:07:55.920 worse than what we saw. It was worse, yes, and 0:07:56.040 --> 0:07:59.360 much longer. It was probably I want to say, I 0:07:59.640 --> 0:08:02.880 don't know, maybe it seven to ten minute conversation that 0:08:02.960 --> 0:08:05.400 ended up taking place to the point of where Hide 0:08:05.480 --> 0:08:09.760 and Spencer were you know, booed out basically really yeah, man. 0:08:10.120 --> 0:08:12.120 It was to the point where I've done these shows 0:08:12.200 --> 0:08:15.040 for since two thousand five, right, and I've never had 0:08:15.080 --> 0:08:17.080 producers come up to us after and be like you, 0:08:17.440 --> 0:08:20.320 like literally like in tears, like are you guys okay? 0:08:20.560 --> 0:08:22.480 It was a gnarly, gnarly moment. I'm not looking for 0:08:22.480 --> 0:08:25.320 something like look, the last thing in the world that's 0:08:25.320 --> 0:08:27.600 gonna get under my skin and drive me to a 0:08:28.480 --> 0:08:30.760 bad place is going to be Spencer hide, It's not 0:08:30.800 --> 0:08:32.720 going to be the case. But it was. You know, 0:08:32.760 --> 0:08:35.839 it was just very distasteful and it's very disrespectful. I 0:08:36.120 --> 0:08:39.199 applaud you for keeping your cool. I relate so much 0:08:39.240 --> 0:08:40.800 to your wife because it seems like she was just 0:08:40.880 --> 0:08:44.040 like what and like lost in mind, like gloves off, 0:08:44.160 --> 0:08:48.120 like what do to say? Right? You were super cool, 0:08:48.480 --> 0:08:51.120 Like I was amazed at like how chill you were, 0:08:51.240 --> 0:08:53.240 but you did say something funny where you were like 0:08:53.679 --> 0:08:56.960 you're the same weirdo that you were fifteen years ago, 0:08:57.480 --> 0:09:00.760 which I think every week that I just wonder if 0:09:00.800 --> 0:09:03.360 like there was some response to that that we didn't see, 0:09:03.360 --> 0:09:06.720 because I just kind of rolled out when you said that. Yeah, dude, 0:09:06.720 --> 0:09:08.920 it was it was priceless. He came back with like 0:09:08.920 --> 0:09:11.160 trying to throw some more low blows at Ashley and I, 0:09:11.280 --> 0:09:13.160 and it just got to the point where I just 0:09:13.200 --> 0:09:15.280 looked at him and I said, Spencer, go kick rocks 0:09:15.320 --> 0:09:18.120 bro like you're you're it's not even worth our time, 0:09:18.280 --> 0:09:19.840 you know, And that's really where it was at is 0:09:20.200 --> 0:09:23.720 it was very frustrating. It was very hard to try 0:09:23.760 --> 0:09:25.120 to stay in that state of mind. But I just 0:09:25.120 --> 0:09:27.400 constantly had to keep saying to myself like, he's not 0:09:27.440 --> 0:09:30.240 worth it, He's not worth it. Stay calm, stay cool, 0:09:30.280 --> 0:09:33.040 stay clay. And I literally was just replaying that in 0:09:33.080 --> 0:09:35.480 my head because he's not you know, it's it's not 0:09:35.600 --> 0:09:37.760 and I know what the I think. That's what it 0:09:37.760 --> 0:09:40.160 comes down to is I know the truth. Uh, and 0:09:40.200 --> 0:09:42.240 I know where I'm at in my life and my journey, 0:09:42.400 --> 0:09:44.920 and I know where my family's at. I were very happy, 0:09:45.040 --> 0:09:48.320 very content, you know, not to sound contradicting. The real 0:09:48.360 --> 0:09:51.040 triggering factor of this is when you become open and 0:09:51.120 --> 0:09:53.560 vulnerable with somebody and they use use it against you. 0:09:53.600 --> 0:09:56.199 It's it's just that's where I guess shame on me, 0:09:56.360 --> 0:10:00.360 right for expecting them to do other than what they did. Yeah, 0:10:00.360 --> 0:10:04.560 you should never weaponize someone's vulnerability. That's just not a 0:10:04.600 --> 0:10:07.280 cool thing. I have a theory, okay, and I'm just 0:10:07.280 --> 0:10:09.640 gonna throw it out there. You can you can engage, 0:10:09.720 --> 0:10:13.079 or you can let it pass. Justin Bobby and Brody 0:10:13.200 --> 0:10:15.760 are talking about the blow up like on the ski 0:10:16.000 --> 0:10:18.840 mountain when they're like tubing or whatever. You know, Brody 0:10:19.000 --> 0:10:22.160 keeps on being like, well, you know, like Spencer's my boy, 0:10:22.280 --> 0:10:24.200 and you know, I don't want to get in the 0:10:24.200 --> 0:10:28.400 middle of it. And I'm sitting there thinking Spencer's got 0:10:28.440 --> 0:10:30.760 some dirt on Brody and he just doesn't want to 0:10:30.760 --> 0:10:33.280 get in the crosshairs and have that happened to him 0:10:33.559 --> 0:10:35.960 on TV. The rest of the cast, I really like, 0:10:36.080 --> 0:10:37.079 you know what I mean, So I'm not going to 0:10:37.160 --> 0:10:39.559 say that. You know, I really enjoy their company. They're 0:10:39.600 --> 0:10:42.000 good people. I don't know what it is. I just 0:10:42.000 --> 0:10:43.640 think that the majority of the cast does not want 0:10:43.640 --> 0:10:45.360 to get in the middle of the wrap, whatever that 0:10:45.440 --> 0:10:47.480 may be. Because I mean, you hear that people say 0:10:47.520 --> 0:10:48.920 that often, is that they just don't want to be 0:10:48.920 --> 0:10:51.400 in the middle of it. Because the Prats are very, 0:10:51.559 --> 0:10:54.720 very resilient when it comes to wanting to get across 0:10:54.720 --> 0:10:56.800 a message, whether it be true or not. I wonder 0:10:56.800 --> 0:11:00.320 if they're gonna be victims of their own circumstances, like 0:11:00.400 --> 0:11:03.600 they're gonna have a hand in building their own demise. 0:11:03.920 --> 0:11:07.040 It's very obvious that they very desperately want to stay 0:11:07.240 --> 0:11:11.520 in the spotlight. Their show is called like make Spidy 0:11:11.559 --> 0:11:14.000 Famous Again or what you know, It's very very obvious 0:11:14.000 --> 0:11:15.640 like what they're trying to do, and I applaud them 0:11:15.640 --> 0:11:18.200 for that, like they're very laser focused on it. They've 0:11:18.200 --> 0:11:21.480 been for a very long time positive affirmation for bad 0:11:21.520 --> 0:11:24.040 behavior in their mind. How to continue to be on 0:11:24.080 --> 0:11:27.319 this show and continue to be relevant on the Hills 0:11:27.440 --> 0:11:30.480 is to constantly kind of like stir up drama. I 0:11:30.559 --> 0:11:33.200 wonder if eventually people are gonna be like, dude, you 0:11:33.240 --> 0:11:35.880 can't be on this thing if you're not friends with 0:11:35.920 --> 0:11:38.400 any of us anymore, Like it doesn't make any sense, 0:11:39.160 --> 0:11:41.280 you know. But I think it's also gotten to a 0:11:41.280 --> 0:11:43.600 point though, where it's it's very apparent to me, like 0:11:43.640 --> 0:11:46.199 really looking and sitting back and seeing this is like 0:11:46.720 --> 0:11:50.480 it's sad, man. I mean, they're they're sick, sick, lost individuals. 0:11:50.559 --> 0:11:51.880 I mean that's the way I see it. I mean 0:11:51.880 --> 0:11:54.080 I really feel bad for them, um, just based on 0:11:54.160 --> 0:11:57.120 what you're saying and what they're doing to try to 0:11:57.160 --> 0:11:59.760 gain that attention. Like my heart, honestly, like my heart 0:11:59.800 --> 0:12:01.960 goes out to them because I feel like they're very lost. 0:12:02.200 --> 0:12:05.480 It's taking me a long time to get to that place, um, 0:12:05.520 --> 0:12:08.319 you know, to really sympathize with that. But after looking 0:12:08.360 --> 0:12:11.080 at it, it's like I I hope them, well, you know, 0:12:11.120 --> 0:12:12.880 I mean, I know where I'm Gonna I know where 0:12:12.880 --> 0:12:14.719 I'm drawing my boundary in my line of what I'm 0:12:14.720 --> 0:12:17.920 willing to engage and connect with them on, but which 0:12:17.960 --> 0:12:20.520 is is not being around them and not it's too toxic, 0:12:20.600 --> 0:12:23.280 you know, but I do feel for them. It's, uh, 0:12:23.440 --> 0:12:25.880 it's almost like there there's an addiction that's line within 0:12:25.960 --> 0:12:28.560 what they're dealing with. Yeah, there's some projection that's going 0:12:28.600 --> 0:12:32.280 on with kind of like all their accusations and vitriolit 0:12:32.320 --> 0:12:34.000 they spit. Have you heard all the stuff that they're 0:12:34.000 --> 0:12:36.600 saying about everybody on their podcasts? And I mean they're 0:12:36.640 --> 0:12:39.560 just talking to you about everybody who they going after 0:12:39.559 --> 0:12:43.640 the hardest. I assume you right. Actually me, Caroline Caitlin, 0:12:44.080 --> 0:12:46.079 I guess they were talking Actually just texted me a 0:12:46.120 --> 0:12:48.599 little bit ago. I forget the show that the protortist on, 0:12:48.720 --> 0:12:51.040 but they're talking prap about how you know, fake Justin 0:12:51.200 --> 0:12:53.880 is and how they probably rented a paramount you know, 0:12:54.040 --> 0:12:57.560 uh location for him to film his childhood home. Which 0:12:57.840 --> 0:12:59.600 that was the most real and authentic thing I think 0:12:59.600 --> 0:13:01.840 I've ever been a part of on any any show, 0:13:01.880 --> 0:13:03.960 from Gonna Beach or The Hills. That was like the 0:13:04.040 --> 0:13:06.400 real deal that those people really knew his mom, really 0:13:06.480 --> 0:13:08.800 knew his his siblings, and I mean, they're just throwing 0:13:08.840 --> 0:13:10.960 shade where It's just like, dude, not only is is 0:13:11.000 --> 0:13:13.679 you're making such false accusations, It's it's like, what is 0:13:13.720 --> 0:13:15.760 your point behind it? What are you trying to prove 0:13:16.400 --> 0:13:18.720 by saying those types of things. It's like they live 0:13:18.760 --> 0:13:21.120 in such a false like false reality that they don't 0:13:21.120 --> 0:13:23.160 even know what is true and false anymore. Yeah, they 0:13:23.200 --> 0:13:25.800 live in their own like echo chamber. At this point. 0:13:25.960 --> 0:13:29.840 The whole like blocking of people on social media is 0:13:30.160 --> 0:13:32.199 kind of stupid and silly, but also like kind of 0:13:32.240 --> 0:13:35.040 where we are in the world. I assume you have 0:13:35.120 --> 0:13:40.199 been blocked. Oh, of course, has everyone been blocked? I'm 0:13:40.200 --> 0:13:42.200 sure at some point I think that they you know, 0:13:42.280 --> 0:13:44.280 I'm sure there's a good chunk of them that are 0:13:44.320 --> 0:13:47.960 blocked now. But i'd have to ask everybody where they stand. 0:13:48.200 --> 0:13:51.720 But it's not the really the top of our priority list, 0:13:51.800 --> 0:13:55.040 because I think, actually they blocked me and I've never 0:13:55.120 --> 0:13:57.960 even met that. I've just did a show with the sister. 0:13:58.240 --> 0:14:01.160 One point. I remember thinking like, yeah, this is the 0:14:01.320 --> 0:14:04.480 oddest behavior, But well, it's funny you say that because 0:14:04.600 --> 0:14:07.240 we're all this like where everything turned with them is again, 0:14:07.280 --> 0:14:09.800 as we were cordial with them going into the second season, 0:14:09.800 --> 0:14:13.320 but Ashley did Stephanie's hair and she posted about it 0:14:13.320 --> 0:14:17.520 and everything got super weird after that. Like so, I mean, 0:14:17.920 --> 0:14:20.080 I don't know how deep that issue is, obviously it 0:14:20.120 --> 0:14:22.960 seems very deep, um, but it seems like that's where 0:14:23.000 --> 0:14:26.360 the tables turned, is when Ashley did Stephanie's hair. So 0:14:27.040 --> 0:14:29.080 I'm sorry that that happened to you. I'm sorry it 0:14:29.120 --> 0:14:31.880 happened on television for the world to see, but I'm 0:14:31.920 --> 0:14:33.920 just proud of the way that you handled it. I 0:14:33.920 --> 0:14:35.600 don't think a lot of people would have been able 0:14:35.640 --> 0:14:38.960 to keep as cool under pressure as you were able 0:14:39.000 --> 0:14:42.040 to do. No, I appreciate that, man. But again, I 0:14:42.040 --> 0:14:44.040 think that this goes to anybody that's out there that 0:14:44.280 --> 0:14:47.080 you know, is struggling or that has recovery, that you can, 0:14:47.400 --> 0:14:49.240 you know, find a life of happiness and you can 0:14:49.280 --> 0:14:51.160 be content and be comfortable in your own skin. And 0:14:51.200 --> 0:14:53.200 I think that's you know, the where I was at 0:14:53.240 --> 0:14:55.280 when that happened was a true testament to having a 0:14:55.280 --> 0:14:57.800 program that was in place. I'm grateful because that's not 0:14:57.840 --> 0:15:00.080 how we were responded. When I'm under the if was 0:15:00.160 --> 0:15:02.480 under the influence had been totally different. Let alone, if 0:15:02.480 --> 0:15:04.640 I didn't work a program, it was rewarding, you know, 0:15:04.680 --> 0:15:07.000 it was it wasn't even hard to watch. It was 0:15:07.040 --> 0:15:08.800 more of I was able to look at it as like, 0:15:08.800 --> 0:15:10.440 I'm I'm proud of where I'm at, you know, I 0:15:10.440 --> 0:15:12.640 was able to kind of take a negative situation and 0:15:12.680 --> 0:15:14.920 look at the positive. The one thing that like kind 0:15:14.920 --> 0:15:18.680 of kind of frustrates me about this reality show in 0:15:18.720 --> 0:15:21.240 particular is that, at least from like the world in 0:15:21.240 --> 0:15:23.760 which I come from, generally there's a hero edit and 0:15:23.800 --> 0:15:26.400 there's a villain edit. And I feel like, in this 0:15:26.480 --> 0:15:29.800 episode it's supposed to be the Pratts getting the villain edit, 0:15:29.920 --> 0:15:33.000 but then the next scene is them like cleansing their 0:15:33.160 --> 0:15:37.760 chakras with some like witch doctor who's banging drums and stuff. 0:15:37.880 --> 0:15:39.120 There was a little bit of me it was like, 0:15:39.320 --> 0:15:41.880 don't let them off like that. That's not right. If 0:15:41.920 --> 0:15:44.200 anyone should be doing that, it should be Jason and 0:15:44.280 --> 0:15:47.000 Ashley getting a couple's massage or something. You should be 0:15:47.000 --> 0:15:48.480 filming that. And that was something that just kind of 0:15:48.480 --> 0:15:51.200 but right, you know, we saw that, and we had 0:15:51.240 --> 0:15:52.800 no idea what this how I was going to pan 0:15:52.880 --> 0:15:55.320 out after you know it was shot, and to show 0:15:55.360 --> 0:15:57.920 that after it was it was just like come on, 0:15:58.280 --> 0:16:00.080 you know what I mean, it was it was. It 0:16:00.120 --> 0:16:02.960 was annoying. It sucks because I think the night could 0:16:02.960 --> 0:16:06.600 have been so much fun. Murder Mystery dinner parties are 0:16:06.640 --> 0:16:10.040 really really fun and funny and you get to see 0:16:10.040 --> 0:16:14.120 people's just weird side. And I love Brandon so much, 0:16:14.160 --> 0:16:16.920 like he is kind of becoming my new favorite character 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:19.120 on this show. There's a part of me that was 0:16:19.160 --> 0:16:24.960 like Brandon's like, this is my audition, full theater, and 0:16:25.040 --> 0:16:27.840 he came in like Mr Peanut, but like doing like 0:16:27.880 --> 0:16:31.200 this weird Swedish accent, and I was losing my mind 0:16:31.200 --> 0:16:32.640 and I was like, I know that this is like 0:16:32.680 --> 0:16:34.640 a serious night and we have to focus on like 0:16:34.720 --> 0:16:37.320 Jason and Spencer's fight, but like I just want to 0:16:37.400 --> 0:16:41.040 hear Brandon, like do more of this accent in like interview, 0:16:41.360 --> 0:16:43.720 get the more the backstory, Just tell me it was 0:16:43.760 --> 0:16:47.080 as funny as it seemed on my TV. It was 0:16:47.120 --> 0:16:49.880 better it was. That was the problem, is that whole 0:16:49.960 --> 0:16:52.560 night was actually really fun. I mean because we it 0:16:52.640 --> 0:16:55.280 was we shocked for a while before we went into 0:16:55.280 --> 0:16:59.280 that dinner scene, and you know Brandon, I mean everybody 0:16:59.360 --> 0:17:02.960 justin every single person was in character. It was fun 0:17:03.000 --> 0:17:05.520 to watch that. I wish they would have highlighted that more, 0:17:05.600 --> 0:17:08.720 but I mean, Brandon was priceless. He actually stayed through 0:17:08.800 --> 0:17:11.159 character into the next day. I mean this because he 0:17:11.240 --> 0:17:14.240 was so you know, so so so pumped on this 0:17:14.240 --> 0:17:17.440 this Olympic skier role. And we we still joke about 0:17:17.480 --> 0:17:19.760 it till the till this day. I'm with you on that. 0:17:19.800 --> 0:17:21.919 He is the person I've gotten closest to through this 0:17:21.920 --> 0:17:24.000 whole series. And you know, somebody I say in touch 0:17:24.000 --> 0:17:25.879 with were actually golfing on Monday, and he is a 0:17:25.920 --> 0:17:27.960 good dude, and I wish they showed more of that 0:17:28.000 --> 0:17:30.600 side of him. It seems like it's too bad it 0:17:30.640 --> 0:17:32.600 happened when it happened, because it looked like a like 0:17:32.640 --> 0:17:34.879 a really funny thing. Why don't you decide to do 0:17:34.960 --> 0:17:38.159 the painting exposition and not go skiing? Honestly did? I 0:17:38.200 --> 0:17:40.959 was so mentally just kind of burnt out after that, actually, 0:17:41.000 --> 0:17:43.040 and I didn't get the best night's sleep, and it 0:17:43.119 --> 0:17:44.879 was something where we just wanted to stay close to 0:17:44.920 --> 0:17:48.160 the hotel and just be more relaxed and dude, art, 0:17:48.720 --> 0:17:50.280 it's a good form of therapy. Man, It's a good 0:17:50.320 --> 0:17:52.560 way to calm the nerves. It's something that I've I've 0:17:52.640 --> 0:17:54.640 done in the past. I don't know, it's an arts chill. 0:17:54.840 --> 0:17:57.280 I was just kind of over just being around the 0:17:57.320 --> 0:17:59.600 group for that moment, you know. It was It's again 0:17:59.640 --> 0:18:01.879 nothing towards anybody. It was just more of a mental 0:18:02.240 --> 0:18:03.919 place for me or I wanted to just do some 0:18:03.960 --> 0:18:06.800 self care and just you know, have no no chaos. 0:18:07.080 --> 0:18:10.040 Was the group surprised at all that the Pratt's left 0:18:10.080 --> 0:18:14.000 the next day? I'd say the majority of the cast 0:18:14.240 --> 0:18:16.119 knew there, knew where they were going to leave, and 0:18:16.320 --> 0:18:18.320 or wanted them to leave. And then there was a 0:18:18.320 --> 0:18:20.240 couple of people that wanted to you know, their bomb 0:18:20.320 --> 0:18:22.879 that they left. Kind Of going forward into the episode, 0:18:23.280 --> 0:18:27.080 Caitlin was kind of commenting on the Adrina Brody of 0:18:27.080 --> 0:18:29.720 it all, and she said something that I thought was 0:18:29.800 --> 0:18:32.640 like really astute. She was just like, Audrina has got 0:18:32.640 --> 0:18:36.240 a kid, you know, wants to find a husband and 0:18:36.280 --> 0:18:39.600 a father, and she's with a guy who I can 0:18:39.600 --> 0:18:43.400 tell from personal experience doesn't want either of those things. 0:18:43.760 --> 0:18:47.760 Are you buying this whole relationship or is it just 0:18:47.880 --> 0:18:51.960 like a fun showmance now, dude. I mean there's such 0:18:52.000 --> 0:18:54.600 a long history there between those two, you know what 0:18:54.680 --> 0:18:57.959 I mean, Like, I I think there's definitely a showmance, 0:18:58.000 --> 0:19:00.320 and I think that I think there's always been some 0:19:00.600 --> 0:19:02.280 you know, chemistry over the course of the years on 0:19:02.359 --> 0:19:04.440 and off between them. I mean, I don't know how 0:19:04.480 --> 0:19:07.400 deep it goes, but it's it seems like there's there's 0:19:07.440 --> 0:19:11.480 something they're going forward in the show. Because obviously you 0:19:12.080 --> 0:19:14.720 know what happens, and I don't want you to spoil anything, 0:19:14.800 --> 0:19:19.440 but like our fences mendedn't for people? Or is there 0:19:19.440 --> 0:19:22.000 just now like a big rift in the group? Oh knows, 0:19:22.080 --> 0:19:24.879