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Speaker 1: Ridiculous Crime is a production of I Heart Radio. Hey,

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Speaker 1: it was a bit done. Nice to see you, Good

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Speaker 1: to see you. You know what's ridiculous? I'll tell you.

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Speaker 1: You want to tell me, I'm totally going to tell

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Speaker 1: you what. I totally ready. The name Dick butt Kiss

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Speaker 1: Chicago Bears linebacker, guess, a classic, a legend and icon.

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Speaker 1: How dare you? How dare I? How dare he change

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Speaker 1: your name? Man? Why? I don't like it? It's what

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Speaker 1: the great player he is because he's named Dick Buckis.

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Speaker 1: Do you know how tough he's going to become on

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Speaker 1: the playground? And you're a ten year old Dick Buckiss?

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Speaker 1: All right, whatever, I don't like it, Knock it off?

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Speaker 1: What about Dick Trickle NASCAR race car? Knock that off too?

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Speaker 1: You stop it all stop? Why don't they let me decide?

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Speaker 1: improved in Iceland. Yeah, they have like a set number

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Speaker 1: Iceland is such a strange and curious place. To me,

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Speaker 1: covered by magical kites. Yeah, I believe it it see

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Speaker 1: how that works. Well, that's a pretty good one. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna give you a pass on that. That's certainly ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: I don't agree. But now I have one for you. Ready.

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Speaker 1: It's the curious case of the two gentlemen who tried

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Speaker 1: off to his widow. Okay, yeah, right. This one is

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Speaker 1: recommended to us by Aaron Brooks. She's a listener and

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Speaker 1: she reached out to us on Twitter, and admittedly we

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Speaker 1: also the second installment and what I'm gonna generously call

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Speaker 1: please Don't Steal Me when I'm dead the trilogy, right,

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Speaker 1: a surprise, but involves a brain anyway. You ready for

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Speaker 1: some grave robbing hijinks. This is Ridiculous Crime, a podcast

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Speaker 1: about absurd and outrageous capers. He and cons It's always

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Speaker 1: murder free and ridiculous. Hello Elizabeth, we said hi. I know,

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Speaker 1: This story is a wild one and uh it may

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Speaker 1: go off the rails. Who knows. We'll see, all right.

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Speaker 1: This story focuses on a criminal e comic caper of

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Speaker 1: two narra to well amateur body snatchers. It's supposed to

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Speaker 1: professional I guess, Sarah, profession there are professionals. Funny you

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Speaker 1: mentioned that there's a whole body harvesting market. So these

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Speaker 1: so they were doing this work on spec Okay, so

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Speaker 1: there you know. There are obviously the fraudulent organ donor markets.

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Speaker 1: I'm not talking about this. This is like hobbyist body

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Speaker 1: snatches exactly, thank you, old fashioned grave robbery. Now, as

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Speaker 1: I spent at the top, this story features the star

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Speaker 1: of our show, Charlie Chaplin, or rather Charlie Chaplin's dead body. Now,

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Speaker 1: a funny thing happened on the way to this grave robbery,

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Speaker 1: which is they decided to do it. They were like,

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Speaker 1: We're not going to actually steal him. That was the plan,

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Speaker 1: Chaplin's dead body has been stolen. You're like, wait a minute,

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Speaker 1: You wanted to know. I wasn't gonna say that part,

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Speaker 1: his movies? Work? Now? Personally, I'm like, uh, like Harold

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Speaker 1: But Charlie Chaplin is uh, you know, it's just he

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Speaker 1: a very strange voice, a comically absurd voice, right, and

420
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Speaker 1: his name is Mr Rochette or Mr Rochat or Mr Rochat.

421
00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:15,080
Speaker 1: We'll call him Mr roach hat right, because that's what

422
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:16,840
Speaker 1: it looks like. It's r O C h A T.

423
00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:20,400
Speaker 1: Mr roachat right. So Mr roachat right, it's a made

424
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:24,120
Speaker 1: up name, doesn't matter. So Mr roachat He informs Una

425
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:27,080
Speaker 1: that they have her husband's body and she wants it back.

426
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,239
Speaker 1: She'll have to pay up, all right, now, how much

427
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,159
Speaker 1: would you pay for like a loved one like where's

428
00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:35,280
Speaker 1: your top out amount? Like if someone called and they're like, like,

429
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:39,000
Speaker 1: what's too much? Like that's just ridiculous. Live or their body,

430
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,240
Speaker 1: their their their dead body. They're calling up they go

431
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,240
Speaker 1: I've stolen your loved one and I have the remains,

432
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:47,560
Speaker 1: and you're like, uh, you know the thing is is

433
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:51,680
Speaker 1: that all in my family everyone gets cremated. Okay, so

434
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:55,400
Speaker 1: let's just say, all right, it's not them anymore. Yeah,

435
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,719
Speaker 1: Well that's and I I you know, I don't know.

436
00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,040
Speaker 1: I think I can say that in the abstract of

437
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,080
Speaker 1: like no, no no, no, knock yourself out. I don't care

438
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 1: what you do. But then in the in the actual

439
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:06,200
Speaker 1: truth of it, I don't know how I would react.

440
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 1: I must say, you're a millionaire, like who was married

441
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 1: to Charlie Chaplin, so you're not looking at it like

442
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:12,639
Speaker 1: oh I gotta look at my bank account. Like so,

443
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,679
Speaker 1: so if somebody comes to you with some insane number

444
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 1: mong the number, you're like, nope, hang up, I don't know, honestly,

445
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:22,120
Speaker 1: Like that's a really that's a really interesting question. It's

446
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,159
Speaker 1: it's an impossible question. There's no good answers, no way

447
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,240
Speaker 1: to answer it. Well, the robbers they set a price.

448
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:31,280
Speaker 1: They're like six d tho dollars. Was like, okay, now

449
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,640
Speaker 1: if you think about it in okay, two terms, I'll

450
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,359
Speaker 1: put it in that terms, that's about two point seven

451
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 1: million dollars, right, So that's the number that they settle

452
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 1: on for Charlie Chaplin's body. Go on and back. Families

453
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 1: gotta pay. We wanted in cash. Right. So now, if

454
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,480
Speaker 1: someone's gonna excel Charlie Chaplin's body for two points seven million,

455
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,200
Speaker 1: there's only one buyer. So that buyer really is just

456
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 1: the one who sets the price. You're not gonna go

457
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,479
Speaker 1: to other people. Like okay, Una said, no, how much

458
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,359
Speaker 1: would you get? Yeah, that's true. What are they gonna

459
00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:00,360
Speaker 1: do if she turns him down? Now if you okay,

460
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,360
Speaker 1: let's say you were to try to grab a celebrity

461
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,920
Speaker 1: and hold them for ransom, a dead celebrity. Who would

462
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 1: you take and how much would you charge? Well, you

463
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,439
Speaker 1: got to figure out it. Someone with uh, you know,

464
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 1: really tight family that would put like who has like

465
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:22,879
Speaker 1: a big mausoleum? Elvis is good. I don't know if

466
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 1: Lisa Marie would pay, but probably wouldn't. But I think

467
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 1: you'd have to target someone who had a huge like

468
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 1: Mausoleum Big two. And also think about the effect if

469
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 1: you don't want the body desecrated. So some people want

470
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 1: to protect the remains more so than others. That's I'm

471
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,639
Speaker 1: saying that if if it's in like if it's in

472
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:44,199
Speaker 1: a big tomb, then they've already put a lot into this.

473
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 1: It's an important thing. And so if you can take

474
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 1: that and make sure you don't mess it up on

475
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 1: the way out and break them in half or anything,

476
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:59,360
Speaker 1: then half and just by the piece um and then

477
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,159
Speaker 1: you can probably spin it around. I don't know I

478
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,239
Speaker 1: can get a couple of million out of at this now.

479
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,479
Speaker 1: For instance, I thought about this, and I'm sure you

480
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 1: have for not for like life, for the purposes of

481
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 1: this story. And that's why this story was attractive to ye.

482
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 1: I was like, how much you can know? No, let

483
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 1: as you say, like Fred Rogers, Mr Rogers, I'm willing

484
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 1: to bet you get a couple of meals for him.

485
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 1: Sure we figure you don't want anything to be him

486
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 1: toted the family. I could see a couple of meals.

487
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 1: They just crowdfunded for our new pledge drive. You need

488
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 1: to save Mr Rogers, go fund me to get the

489
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,199
Speaker 1: body backs. I don't know what Mr Rogers will be

490
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 1: worth on the black market, and pretty much just be

491
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 1: PBS and the family. I think we'll see here's the

492
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 1: celebrity you could get the especially nowadays exactly dark web

493
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 1: get the freaky de keys who are like, yeah, I

494
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:51,680
Speaker 1: got three mill, what's match me? Ps? The matching donation

495
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:55,880
Speaker 1: to PBS your pledge drive on NPR goes to reclaiming

496
00:25:56,320 --> 00:26:00,439
Speaker 1: Mr Rogers body. Yeah, and then there's some creep in

497
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 1: like you know, he just loved Mr Rogers and is

498
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 1: sitting there in this mock sweater and it's like I've

499
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,119
Speaker 1: got four and he plans to just like suspend the

500
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 1: corpse in loose sight. They can always be able to

501
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 1: see him from any point in the house. She's just

502
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 1: the central pillar of the home to just make it

503
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 1: sort of lame in the bed. It's a very a

504
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:23,919
Speaker 1: rose for Emily situation. I'm telling you, amateur criminals, this

505
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 1: is how they start. This is he's got to do

506
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 1: the brainstorming. Yeah, it takes a lot of planning. Now,

507
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 1: all these prices and stuff. I've never broke her the body.

508
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:32,920
Speaker 1: I don't know how much the prices are, but like

509
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,880
Speaker 1: I'll tell you I haven't. It seems like two points

510
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,640
Speaker 1: seven million though, is a little hot, like to come

511
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 1: in as your opening offer is just like oh anyway,

512
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 1: Own is like not too into it, right, So she's

513
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,919
Speaker 1: a tough character and she's just like no, like what

514
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 1: do you mean No, She's like no and just hangs up.

515
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,120
Speaker 1: I love it, right, So, so what's next for these

516
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,680
Speaker 1: ghoulish body snatchers? Now that Chaplin's body and the one

517
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 1: person is supposed to buy it won't like, I don't know,

518
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 1: like some Hollywood museum they always put Charlie Chaplin in

519
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 1: like murals and maybe you can go over like, you know, hey,

520
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 1: Ripley's believe it or not, you want to take it.

521
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 1: You got the real deal. Forget a wax statue. So anyway, meanwhile,

522
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 1: now that Una has said no and the body snatchers

523
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,120
Speaker 1: have this body on ice, they've got to like figure

524
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 1: out who else they can sell it to. The townspeople

525
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,679
Speaker 1: are whispering amongst themselves who's responsible? Who who could have

526
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 1: done it? It's most likely you know, international cabal or

527
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 1: possibly a local some people they settle on the idea

528
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 1: it was Nazis. Well, sure everybody knows I one of

529
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 1: My favorite parts of stories like this is all the

530
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 1: speculation when they're trying to figure out who did something,

531
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 1: and all the wild series that people come up with.

532
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, exactly. It's always it means not to be

533
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 1: politically insensitive. But like in back in the day, like

534
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:56,639
Speaker 1: there's the saying like you get to a point and

535
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 1: eventually you're out to like gypsies and Nazis as your

536
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 1: your says bex and that's when you know you're lost exactly.

537
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 1: So in this case they're like, they get to the

538
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,479
Speaker 1: Nazis fast, and that's got to be naz Because it's

539
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 1: Westernaly's nineteen seventy. People are looking around to some of

540
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 1: the elders going where were you in the war? Right,

541
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 1: it's still in a time that some interesting art in

542
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 1: your house, Exactly where did you get all that with

543
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 1: the gold frames? And so now these locals they know

544
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 1: that it's not the geriatric Nazis. Actually they're thinking it's

545
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 1: young neo Nazis. And they've done because Chaplin did the

546
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 1: whole Great Dictator's Speech and it's at that time very popular. Also,

547
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 1: they weren't like going viral online, but people were sharing it.

548
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,640
Speaker 1: It was something that was known that, Oh, it's probably

549
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 1: probably Nazi reading it to each other in the town's

550
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 1: cold up the film to the light pay. Also, the

551
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 1: other thing is they people thought the chaplain was Jewish,

552
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 1: so they thought, oh, maybe the Nazis the great but

553
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 1: he's not. He's an Anglican, so not the young nazis

554
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 1: not the old Nazis. They move on, who else is it?

555
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 1: They keep trying to point the finger around Nazis, but

556
00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 1: we know who it is. It's Mr rochat who Mr

557
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 1: Roachat right. Well, the police are also curious about this.

558
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 1: They go out and investigate a crime scene and they

559
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 1: come to the conclusion that it's possibly two men or

560
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 1: or maybe three men in the trench. There's a possibility

561
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 1: it's also four men. This is what they come up with.

562
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 1: They're like, based on what we have because it's remember

563
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 1: the crime scenes muddy. So they're just looking at all

564
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 1: these money footprints, could be two, maybe three, possibly four men.

565
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 1: They're like, thanks, like solid police work. Right. Meanwhile Mr

566
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 1: Roachat is over there sweat and bullets about how he's

567
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 1: gonna get paid. So he's like, you know what I'm doing,

568
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna call back. So he calls it back

569
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 1: and he's like, it's just me and Mr roll Chat

570
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 1: or whatever is like, wait, do it again, it's just

571
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 1: me ra chat. So Mr raw Chat calls the house

572
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 1: and they're like, he's like, I have Charlie's body. I

573
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 1: want my money. And they're like, okay, Mr Roachat, I

574
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 1: don't know. So that's Mr roach Chat for okay. I

575
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 1: was just saying, may have known him. So is like,

576
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 1: I don't have time for this year. I wouldn't either.

577
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 1: She lists for a while. She hangs up the phone. Right,

578
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 1: she's such her. I thought you would like her. So

579
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, little like five minutes past,

580
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 1: phone rings ring, ring rings. God, if it's him. She

581
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 1: picks up the phone. Yeah it's me, Mr Chat can

582
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 1: why don't not hang up? And she's like all right,

583
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 1: all right, what it? What's the deal. He's like, I

584
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 1: have the body. She's like, just hands the phone to

585
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 1: one of the kids. So here you listen to this.

586
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 1: The kids are passing the phone around them. They're loving it.

587
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 1: This guy's got that bad voice. You gotta heard. He's like,

588
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 1: I demand my money. I liked it delivered to me.

589
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 1: And she's like they're like, okay, man, anyway, the kids

590
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 1: are just tickled. Pink right own is like, I don't

591
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 1: have time for this. And now, Eugene Chaplin, he talks

592
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 1: about this numerous times. There's all sorts of interviews we

593
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 1: can tie him talking about it. He particularly focused on

594
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 1: the voice. He found it hilarious. Out of all the

595
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 1: stuff he remembers about, this is probably the thing he

596
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 1: remembers this voice. Right, well, this voice also is is

597
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 1: pretty much disallowing it to take him seriously at all,

598
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 1: because I remember she was married to Charlie Chaplin. She

599
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 1: was married to a comic, so this is all like

600
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 1: she's prepared for ridiculousness, right, So right, what if it's

601
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:21,239
Speaker 1: not a put on voice, that's his actual voice? Well,

602
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 1: apparently it was so ridiculous. Everybody knew that. There's no

603
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 1: way anyoneting accent. I think that's one. I know that,

604
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 1: but I mean I think that's always a good tell

605
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 1: when someone's faking it. So Mr Roachap, well, he's got

606
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 1: to win them over because he's got Charlie Chaplin's body

607
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 1: just moldering somewhere, and he's like, I'm not getting paid

608
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 1: for this. I need to be pushing product. So he's like,

609
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 1: how do I make this happen. He goes and he's like, Okay,

610
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: I'm in a brainstorm. I got it. I need her

611
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 1: to believe I have the body. So he goes out.

612
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 1: They dig up the body where they have it stored.

613
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 1: They take a picture of it, and then they put

614
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: the body back. They send a picture to the newspaper.

615
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 1: The newspaper prints up the photo. Whoa yeah, and then

616
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 1: like Charlie Chaplin body has been discovered and we get

617
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 1: we gotta contact from the ransom team. And then they're

618
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 1: like so is like, man, now they're making an international event.

619
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 1: He's going to be a publicity. It's just a gnarly

620
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 1: photo to put in the paper. Just the casket next

621
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: to a hole. Was it just the casket open? It

622
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 1: was the casket just next to a hole. And I

623
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: thought it was like, say, cheese and he's just all teeth. Anyways,

624
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: front page and skeleton arm around one of their shoulders.

625
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: It's like all weekend at Bernie's. She just doesn't care.

626
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 1: She's like, oh God, now, oh, Charlie Chaplain's coffin is

627
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 1: They're like, you know, on the newspaper is now convinced

628
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 1: this is a problem. She's gonna have to deal with.

629
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 1: She's got to protect her kids from this, right. So

630
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 1: she's like, okay, the phone calls happened again. She's like,

631
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 1: give me the phone. It is see you'll saw my

632
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 1: fault though, and she's like she's like, all right, what

633
00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: was the what was the price? You said six hundred thousand.

634
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 1: She's like that is right, and she's like okay. So

635
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 1: then it's like, okay, I won't pay that. It's like what,

636
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 1: I don't not see the fall and she's like, I'll

637
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: pay less. She's like, he's like, will you'll pay and

638
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 1: so they start haggling over Charlie Chaplin's dead body right now.

639
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 1: He's like getting really frustrated. She's like, not offering enough.

640
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 1: She's like, I will heart to the children if you

641
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 1: do not pay me enough. She's like, no, imagine this

642
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 1: guy is did the ridiculous voice threatening your children. You're like, okay,

643
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: this guy's not seriously at all. I know he's desperate.

644
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: She's she's like, okay, well call me back when you

645
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 1: come up with a non ridiculous price, and she hangs

646
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 1: up on him again. You gotta when people get like that,

647
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 1: the all aggressive, you gotta just you gotta counter with

648
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 1: all right, come on over, let's do this exactly. They're

649
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 1: like over their head. You got to arm all the

650
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 1: children and then they're ready, come with it. And then

651
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 1: he shows up and the kids just beat him to death.

652
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 1: I just like I had this him, like Mr roach

653
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 1: had on the phone, like Mom, what do I that

654
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: take to put you on alie chaplain's coffin and get

655
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 1: you off my lots today. I want this bangs the

656
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 1: top of the coffin. This mothel has no one time

657
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:14,439
Speaker 1: for you anyway. The grave robbers, you're doing it where

658
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 1: it's like Eastern European meets South is a border. Yeah,

659
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 1: it's non special exactly with a little Peter Laurian there.

660
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 1: So the grave robbers, because they're getting they've tried to

661
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 1: haggle with Una and she's like one has The rest

662
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 1: of them are probably sitting in that room while he's

663
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 1: geeking out on the phone with him and be like,

664
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 1: oh my god, you're embarrassing us. Take it down and

665
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 1: we talked about this. Remember you were going to do

666
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 1: less this time. So the grave robbers decide when is

667
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 1: not taking them seriously? So Mr Roachat calls the family

668
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 1: lawyer It's like it is mean, Mr Cha, do you

669
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,800
Speaker 1: have authority to disgust the body? I have payments to

670
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 1: talk about? And the lawyers like, oh, let me talk

671
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 1: to Una. So he talks to Unah and then Mr

672
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 1: Roachacks just keeps calling the lawyer, trying to haggle with him. Right,

673
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 1: it ends up this takes months, by the way, and

674
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: this ends up that he calls the lawyer and Una

675
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 1: twenty seven times. Yeah, so twenty seven times you hear

676
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,720
Speaker 1: that voice? Were a voice like it? And so meanwhile,

677
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 1: the only thing that Una is saying about all of

678
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 1: this publicly is that quote. Charlie would have thought it

679
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 1: rather ridiculous. Yes, that's true. The only thing that she's

680
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 1: saying public She's got everything in perspective. The best part

681
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,839
Speaker 1: to me is is the police response, which I haven't

682
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 1: really gotten into yet. Now, the police, they come up

683
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 1: with a series of plans to try to capture these guys,

684
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 1: and let's just say their local Swiss police and this

685
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:43,720
Speaker 1: task is above their pay grade. And after this quick break,

686
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 1: I will tell you all about how they spectacularly and

687
00:35:47,200 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 1: humorously fail. So now Una has been frustrating the kidnappers

688
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 1: because she like haggles with them. She's got the price down,

689
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 1: but they never settled on her price, and the kidnappers

690
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 1: are like getting so frustrated they go to the lawyer.

691
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: The lawyers like, okay, i'll talk price with you. It's

692
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 1: after twenty seven phone calls they get it down to

693
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 1: where they finally is established how much they'll pay to

694
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: get Charlie Chaplin's body back. And the police were like, perfect,

695
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,399
Speaker 1: we're gonna use that as our opportunity to grab them,

696
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,800
Speaker 1: So tell them you'll you'll do it. She's like fine,

697
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 1: next time he calls, and so all of a sudden

698
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 1: phone call, bring, Bring, and she's like, yes, I knew

699
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 1: who it was a hundred thousand dollars. I'll pay a

700
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars and he's like, perfect, that's more than

701
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 1: I had yesterday. But basically she's paying him a hundred

702
00:36:56,640 --> 00:37:00,839
Speaker 1: geese to stop calling exactly. She doesn't want the body back.

703
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 1: I don't care whatever throughout in the river, I don't care.

704
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 1: Never call this number again. So the cops are like, okay,

705
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 1: we're gonna run a sting operation. This is this is

706
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:18,359
Speaker 1: gonna go great. So sting operation is you know when

707
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 1: she talks to Mr Roachet. She said, I'll have my

708
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 1: chauffeur come out, he'll meet you, he'll give you the

709
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars. You give him the coffin slided in

710
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: the back of our Rolls Royce and he'll drive back.

711
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 1: They're like, stop for a second. I'm gonna pull up

712
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 1: in the Rolls Royce. You're gonna throw a coffin in

713
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: the back after I give you a hundred thousand dollars.

714
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 1: This is so preposterous. Now you may be wondering, where's

715
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 1: the cop part of this. We're going to be the chauffeur.

716
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 1: So they have the regular show for sit this one out,

717
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 1: and then they have like you know, I don't know,

718
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 1: like Pete he comes in, he has he takes the

719
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: show first cap and he's like, I've got this one right,

720
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 1: and so he still where he is. You to form

721
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,399
Speaker 1: just exactly. It really comes down to the hat. That's

722
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,399
Speaker 1: all the stories they talked about how he had the hat.

723
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,320
Speaker 1: Who wouldn't believe it. So he's gonna sit there in

724
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 1: the Rolls Royce, drive out and meet him, right, So

725
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: pretty solid plan. Then then when the kidnappers come out,

726
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 1: you know the body kidnappers come out and they say, hey,

727
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: we have it. To give us some money. He goes,

728
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: I'm a cop. Surprise, Yeah, that's the plan, right, so

729
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: fool proof right now. Sure this one is not weather dependent,

730
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 1: so they at least had that going for them, right,

731
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:36,320
Speaker 1: so that they don't count on though, is the local postman?

732
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 1: M hmm, yeah, right, counts on the post I'm telling

733
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: you postal workers. I'm a huge fan. Oh yeah, the

734
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 1: show is big fans of the postal service of all countries. Mind, yes, exactly.

735
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 1: So this undercover cops chauffeur, he drives up and he's

736
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 1: waiting at the drop site, and uh, he catches the

737
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 1: attention of the local letter carrier. They're like, he's not

738
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 1: the right to drive. I know the driver, that''s not him.

739
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 1: So the letter carrier starts watching and thinks this is

740
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 1: very suspicious because remember everybody knows Charlie Chaplin's body is missing.

741
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: So he's like, I'm going to help the police and

742
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 1: see something, say something, exactly, do something right. So letter

743
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 1: carrier starts following the car and just kind of like

744
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 1: ambling around waiting to like, you know, takes a long

745
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,240
Speaker 1: time delivering the packages on that side of the street,

746
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 1: and he's tailing the purp. He's dealing exactly undercover, and

747
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 1: the undercover being covered being covered by an undercover mail man.

748
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 1: So then eventually when the undercover cops show, fur thinks

749
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 1: that he sees the kidnappers arriving. He gets out of

750
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,760
Speaker 1: the car and then he starts walking down the street

751
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 1: to like the actual drop site, and he's like another game.

752
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: It's like not too far. He's just like getting out

753
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 1: of the car, and then the letter carrier turns around

754
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 1: and starts following him. He notices this. He's like, ah,

755
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:55,800
Speaker 1: he's the kidnapper. He turns around, I arrest you, stay arrested.

756
00:39:56,440 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 1: So he arrests the arrest the letter carrier, and uh,

757
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 1: it turns out he's not involved. The letter carriers like

758
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,760
Speaker 1: citizens arrest back at you the letter care your suspicions

759
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 1: were accurate. That is not the correct show first they

760
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 1: were accurate. But anyway, the kidnappers see all this apparently,

761
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: and he said they cut so Mr roach Hat does

762
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 1: not make his appearance right now. At this point, the

763
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 1: kidna at body kidnappers, they've got to figure out a

764
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 1: way to arrange a new drop site. That's not going

765
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,320
Speaker 1: to get him busted, right, So like this is getting

766
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 1: so problematic, right, so oh sorry, Maybe now the Chaplin

767
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 1: family phone is not ringing so much anymore because Mr

768
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 1: Roach hat has his agreement, but now he doesn't, so

769
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 1: bring Mr Chat We need to make no drop site.

770
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 1: So he's now he's sort of kilvert Godfrey, he wandered.

771
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 1: All right, he's a very movable man. I'm telling you

772
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 1: you can't. So Mr Roach had calls up and they

773
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 1: were like, okay, call back when mom's here and we'll

774
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 1: cut off a drop side. So the police get this

775
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 1: and they know the Mr roachs gonna call back soon.

776
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 1: They're like, okay, we need to bug the phone. So

777
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 1: they're gonna bug the phone, but not just that phone.

778
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:13,879
Speaker 1: They're gonna tap all the phones in the area because

779
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 1: they think he's using a payphone and they think he's

780
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 1: a local. So they tap two payphones. What yeah, tapphones.

781
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 1: I don't even know how you do that, but apparently

782
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 1: they manage and it works. This works. One of the

783
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 1: kidnappers goes to use a pay phone and the police

784
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 1: jump out and they're like that time catch one of

785
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 1: the Charlie Chaplin body snatchers and they're like, you are

786
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 1: under arrest, and he was like, oh man, you got me.

787
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 1: And then there we go and they and then they

788
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 1: he admits who he is and they go and they

789
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 1: go out to the hide out and they get his partner.

790
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 1: Turns out it was just two of them, right, yeah,

791
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 1: so it's just too and they tell the police, Hey,

792
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 1: we'll show you where Charlie Chaplin's body is buried. Like

793
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 1: why did you do this? Like we needed the money, man,

794
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 1: They're like, what do you mean you need the money.

795
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: We're like, we're political prisoners. Like what they're like, political refugees. Sorry,

796
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 1: I'm my friend is not so good. So it turns

797
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,800
Speaker 1: out Mr road Chat and his amateur partner are political

798
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 1: refugees from Oh you want to know, I'll tell you

799
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 1: Poland is one and then the other one is from Bulgaria. Yeah.

800
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 1: Their names are Roman ward Us. He's a twenty four

801
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 1: year old auto mechanic. He's the brains of the operation.

802
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:32,840
Speaker 1: He's the one from Poland. And then there is his

803
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 1: partner in Goncho Genev And Goncho is a thirty eight

804
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 1: year old auto mechanic as well, and he is the

805
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: muscle of the operation. Who is the voice of the operation.

806
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 1: We'll get to that. These two men, as I told you,

807
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 1: they're political refugees. They had relocated to Luis, Switzerland, and

808
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 1: not being hard men, they as soon as they get

809
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 1: popped by the police, they just spill everything. They sing

810
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 1: like songbird. So they confessed all their crimes and crimes

811
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 1: that they wanted to do commit. Right, so they leave

812
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 1: the officers out. They showing where Charlie Chaplin's body is buried,

813
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 1: rather that where the coffin is buried. It's not like

814
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 1: just a pile of bones in a mud hole. It's

815
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 1: actually a coffin there. And then they take him a

816
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 1: second though, because they can't remember quite where they buried him,

817
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 1: so they have to find the markers. Another one. No, no, no,

818
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 1: this is the one. So then they finally find the body. Right,

819
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 1: so Wardes and Genev they take detectives out to the cornfield,

820
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: they find the body, and then they take the body

821
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 1: and they bring it back, They clean it up, they

822
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 1: do whatever that I shouldn't say, the body, the coffin,

823
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,320
Speaker 1: and then they rent it all off or whatever. And

824
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 1: it turns out it wasn't that far. It's just ten

825
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 1: miles on the other side of Lake Geneva, and this

826
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 1: little town called no Vier or Noville if in English

827
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 1: you know this, This ten mile jaunt is as far

828
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 1: as Charlie Chaplin had gone, right, So, because after their

829
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 1: their whole inside of a whole plan failed, they had

830
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 1: to go find another place to dig a hole. So

831
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 1: they said ten miles should be good, and that's where

832
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 1: they went. So they after that. Genev the Bulgarian he

833
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 1: explained to the Swiss police and to the public at

834
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 1: large that he was just the muscle. He didn't he

835
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 1: didn't think of this plan, right, and he's like, look,

836
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:05,839
Speaker 1: he told me we want to dig hole. I say,

837
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 1: I dig hole, all right, so I'm no problem, right,

838
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 1: He's like. And also he's like this interesting cat because

839
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,800
Speaker 1: he admits that he was like totally indifferent about handling

840
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 1: Chaplain's coffin dead body possibly if he like fell out

841
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 1: if they dropped. He's like, you know, and I quote,

842
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 1: I was not bothered about lifting the coffin. Death is

843
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 1: not so important where I come from, he reminds me

844
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 1: my Eastern European friends father, Yeah, that is not so

845
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 1: important to where I come from. Like that's some stuff.

846
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,479
Speaker 1: He would say, yes. So you're just like, I don't

847
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 1: really need to know what you've seen in your I'm

848
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 1: done in your life, but I really want to know

849
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna take Bulgaria off my list of places

850
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 1: to visit though, just for right now. I know in

851
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 1: the Bulgaria sounds prough it. But anyway, So this get

852
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 1: rich scheme of theirs that they came up with is

853
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 1: because they are political refugees. And the political refugees, you know,

854
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 1: they basically are fleeing the Iron Block. They aren't curtain

855
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 1: because we're trying to get away from the Soviet Union

856
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 1: and the like satellite states of Poland and Bulgaria, and

857
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 1: so they search out freedom in Switzerland. I don't know

858
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 1: why Switzerland. They found that it was a very difficult

859
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 1: place to get work. So they're like, you know what

860
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 1: we should do? Steal the body of the most famous

861
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 1: person in town, holding for ransom. Like yeah, that sounds

862
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,919
Speaker 1: like a solid plan. So this is ward is his plan.

863
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 1: He's like, look, I decided to hide Charlie Chaplin's body

864
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:28,760
Speaker 1: and solve my problems. That's what he tells the judge,

865
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 1: Like that's his answer. So and and by the way

866
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 1: this confession that I just told you. That's what he

867
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 1: says in his trial to the judge at the beginning

868
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:37,800
Speaker 1: of the trial, she says, like I did this, like

869
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:42,439
Speaker 1: I don't have time. So the trial doesn't take long

870
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,720
Speaker 1: and uh, the of course, the guys are found guilty.

871
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 1: But there is one interesting point there was during the

872
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 1: trial the lawyer, the family lawyer, who has been having

873
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 1: all of these calls, He's like, um, I was just

874
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 1: really looking forward to speaking to Mr Roachat. I've spoken

875
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 1: to him so many times. I was kind of hoping

876
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 1: to meet him in person. So at this point Roman

877
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 1: Wardes the year old from Poland, he stands up in

878
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:10,799
Speaker 1: the witness stand. He goes, good morning. This of course

879
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 1: leads to a big laugh from the crowd cart room.

880
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 1: The judge even last and uh, you know that is

881
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 1: the highlight in the court case. After that, the sentence

882
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 1: has come down wards gets a four year sentence, and

883
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 1: then he got Joe ganef I'm just the muscle. He

884
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 1: gets eighteen months suspended sentence, doesn't do any time in

885
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 1: jail right now. Of the two, one of them sends

886
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 1: a letter to Charlie Chaplin's widow ownA and actually has

887
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 1: his wife sends it and he's like, I apologize. I

888
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:39,320
Speaker 1: don't know. I feel bad about what I did. It

889
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 1: was a terrible thing we did, right, And it's most

890
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,800
Speaker 1: likely it's a Ganto Ganef's wife. We don't know exactly

891
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 1: which one, but I think it's can I have. By

892
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,799
Speaker 1: the way, how are you you look at what right now?

893
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 1: Are you sitting on anything? But she writes back, she's

894
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 1: a nice about this, right, she writes back, She's like, look,

895
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 1: this is the quote. Look, I have nothing especially against you,

896
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 1: and all is forgiven. That's it, all right. Look now,

897
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,839
Speaker 1: if you're wondering what happened to Charlie Chaplin's body, which

898
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 1: I know you are, don't lie. Yeah, I know. Am

899
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:16,839
Speaker 1: it gets reburied, well, I would hope. So, yeah, we're

900
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 1: going to cremate it now or like no, let's rebury it.

901
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 1: But to guard against any future thefts, just like with

902
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 1: Abraham Lincoln's buddy, they ditch it in the ground covered

903
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 1: with cemented Yeah, that makes sense to move apparently that

904
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,919
Speaker 1: is that is now in the spot where Chaplin's body

905
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 1: was briefly interred, the farmer raises a little plaque and

906
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 1: he said something about how Charlie Chaplin once rested there.

907
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 1: Ever so briefly does he have like souvenirs you can

908
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 1: buy exactly Charlie Chaplin slept there kind of So the

909
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 1: one point, Una had one other comment which she said,

910
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 1: in a way, it's a shame we found him, Like

911
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 1: would have been nice to leave him in the cornfield,

912
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 1: Like you would have been happy to have him exactly

913
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 1: just out there where nobody knew where he was, in

914
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 1: a beautiful spot overlooking Lake Geneva. Instead we have we

915
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 1: get left with I don't know what is that? The

916
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 1: the Swiss version of Field of Dreams. If you bury

917
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 1: it they will come. So now, of course a film

918
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 1: was made of this, because this story is just so

919
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 1: film a bull in The film was called The Price

920
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 1: of Fame. It featured Charlie Chaplin's granddaughter, also his son Eugene.

921
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 1: He got a part. He played a circus the guy

922
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 1: who runs the circus. So there was a circus involved

923
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 1: in Yeah, because you know Charlie Chaplin, he was he

924
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 1: was when he was young. He must have been in

925
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:29,879
Speaker 1: a circus. Oh, so it wasn't It's just his life story,

926
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 1: not just the story of the body, theft or it's

927
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 1: the story of the body theft, and there was a

928
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 1: circus involved. We don't know because we didn't watch the movie.

929
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 1: Later research Burnett, I didn't say, hey, I'm telling the

930
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 1: story here. They told their story. I'm telling this one.

931
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 1: I go out of my way every time I'm going

932
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 1: to tell a story and there's a movie involved to

933
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:51,359
Speaker 1: not watch it. Do you really. I've gone back and forth.

934
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 1: It depends on the movie. Sometimes I watched the movie

935
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 1: and sometimes I don't. In this case, I didn't because

936
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:59,800
Speaker 1: the reviews were also bad. All being honest, you know.

937
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:02,840
Speaker 1: But in the movie, apparently the man who steal his

938
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:07,360
Speaker 1: dad's body, according to Eugene, they're they're portrayed as lovable idious,

939
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 1: which is a perfect comic duo in the spirit that

940
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 1: his father would have loved. He actually said that it

941
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 1: was the kind of story his dad would have loved.

942
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 1: Nice all right, So there you go. There's your happy ending.

943
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:22,240
Speaker 1: Dad would have loved the story of his body being stolen. Excellent. So, Lizabeth,

944
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 1: what's our ridiculous takeaway? Well, okay, I think that the

945
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:30,320
Speaker 1: ridiculous takeaway is that I really wish we had access

946
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:35,840
Speaker 1: to like the notes that these goofballs put together, not

947
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 1: just these guys, but all of the kind of wacky

948
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 1: extortion capers and that sort of thing. I want to

949
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 1: know what other ideas they had before they came to

950
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 1: not this one. This is the winner. Listen, gather around.

951
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 1: We're stealing a body. This is a lot. You cannot

952
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:58,800
Speaker 1: go wrong. It's like, how often have there been body

953
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:02,359
Speaker 1: fests with like six ask for random you know, it's

954
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 1: not like this long history of Now look, this is

955
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 1: a surefire with This is a blue chip crime here, folks.

956
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:12,879
Speaker 1: So I really want to know are the crimes at work?

957
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 1: I want to know what was on their crime vision

958
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 1: board before they got to steal a body. They're like,

959
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 1: can we pull all of the metal out of all

960
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 1: of the houses in town and something? Nope, too much labor,

961
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 1: steal one body. I like it. They had giant magnet

962
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 1: to a huge bunch of balloons and have it drift

963
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 1: over and it's gonna lift all the gold. They're like, yeah,

964
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 1: the gold is not Take that. Take that off the board,

965
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 1: off the board board right next, What was your other idea?

966
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:50,840
Speaker 1: My ridiculous takeaway? Thank you for asking. I was about

967
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:53,800
Speaker 1: to I was just like my mouth what and you're like,

968
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 1: oh hey, listen, it's it's all about me. So I'll

969
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 1: just tell you this right now here off the stage,

970
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 1: Elizabeth her Old Lloyd. Nobody would do this to Harold

971
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 1: Lloyd because they respect him, because they know he's the best.

972
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 1: For real, that's not my takeaway, but orson walls would

973
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 1: agree with me. But my for real ridiculous takeaway is

974
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,919
Speaker 1: that Una Chaplin was right. She basically had your vibe,

975
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 1: which is, you didn't steal my husband. You stole some

976
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 1: bodily remains. And it doesn't really matter to me because

977
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 1: whatever he did on earth, people still love him for it,

978
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 1: and whatever he did and with me and our family,

979
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 1: I still have that love and he's still here in

980
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,320
Speaker 1: my family, in my children's eyes, I see my husband.

981
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:35,359
Speaker 1: She knew where he was exactly. So it's like, look,

982
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:37,839
Speaker 1: you can have the body, have the bones, bury him,

983
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 1: play with him. I don't care. It's all you guys

984
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:42,279
Speaker 1: take the body of freaks, but the spirit lived on

985
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:46,399
Speaker 1: elsewhere exactly. I like it. So there you go. That's mine.

986
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:48,959
Speaker 1: That's a good takeaway. It's like the Dirt Worshipper's Guide

987
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 1: to spirituality. But anyway, thank you for joining us. I'm

988
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:59,760
Speaker 1: Zarin Burnett. I'm Sarah Burnett and over there is Szaron Burnett. Zaron.

989
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,480
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994
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:25,120
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