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I'll also be your host into the 0:01:06.760 --> 0:01:11.600 world of hunting the icon of the North American Wilderness fair. 0:01:12.160 --> 0:01:16.240 We'll talk about tactics, gear conservation. We will also bring 0:01:16.280 --> 0:01:19.280 you into some of the wildest country on the planet, 0:01:19.600 --> 0:01:35.120 chasing bear. All right, We're at the Bear Hunting Magazine 0:01:35.120 --> 0:01:41.280 global headquarters and we just settled a pretty significant issue 0:01:42.240 --> 0:01:45.640 that uh that came up and I had nothing to 0:01:45.680 --> 0:01:49.240 do with it, but I was. I had to score 0:01:49.240 --> 0:01:53.640 a deer for my friend Matt Taylor, who's here with 0:01:53.760 --> 0:01:57.680 his son Western Taylor, also known as the Eagle, and 0:01:58.000 --> 0:02:01.360 my son Bears here as well. Um, Matt, tell me 0:02:01.520 --> 0:02:03.640 just a little bit about what just happened. Yeah, so 0:02:03.680 --> 0:02:06.920 we Uh, I've been hunting with the same group of 0:02:06.920 --> 0:02:11.880 guys for about twenty years deer hunting, and uh, nineteen 0:02:11.960 --> 0:02:16.120 years ago tomorrow I killed what we think is the 0:02:16.120 --> 0:02:20.320 biggest deer our camp, you know, record holder in terms 0:02:20.360 --> 0:02:23.520 of big buck and uh, this year one of my 0:02:23.600 --> 0:02:27.640 hunting buddies, Cody Umney, shot a really nice eight pointer 0:02:27.919 --> 0:02:30.919 opening more in a muzzloader season, and uh, I thought 0:02:31.040 --> 0:02:35.040 we might have a record breaker, so we needed an impartial, 0:02:35.240 --> 0:02:39.840 third party official judge to settle it. Western. Were you 0:02:39.880 --> 0:02:43.440 there when Cody killed that buck? Yeah? I was there 0:02:43.520 --> 0:02:45.359 right camp. You were there at camp? Did you think 0:02:45.400 --> 0:02:48.200 it was bigger than your dad's Dear, I don't know, 0:02:48.320 --> 0:02:50.560 it was close. Just when you saw it, What did 0:02:50.560 --> 0:02:52.040 you think we'd be like, oh man, this is gonna 0:02:52.040 --> 0:02:54.919 give Dad's buck a run for the money, sort of yuh, 0:02:55.160 --> 0:02:58.160 you kind of thought maybe it would steal your family's honor. 0:03:01.200 --> 0:03:02.960 So when did you kill your buck mat like in 0:03:04.040 --> 0:03:07.960 or something. It was two thousand and one, so the 0:03:08.120 --> 0:03:11.320 camp record was killed in two thousand one. So you 0:03:11.440 --> 0:03:15.760 brought Cody's deer over here, and uh we we scored 0:03:15.800 --> 0:03:18.120 it pretty quick. And I told you, I said, uh so, 0:03:18.240 --> 0:03:21.160 I I scored for Boone and Crockett, but we we didn't. 0:03:21.200 --> 0:03:24.120 We kind of gave like the the deer camp version 0:03:24.240 --> 0:03:26.959 score like we didn't. So when you're scoring a deer, guys, 0:03:27.120 --> 0:03:28.720 Bear would know it. He seen me do it. But 0:03:28.760 --> 0:03:32.000 when you're officially scoring a deer, Western you mark the 0:03:32.040 --> 0:03:35.760 baseline of the times, which so that means like, so 0:03:35.840 --> 0:03:38.800 there's the main beam, but then there's the times, and 0:03:38.840 --> 0:03:41.720 you have to have a baseline to determine where that 0:03:41.800 --> 0:03:44.720 time starts so you can know really how long it is. 0:03:45.000 --> 0:03:46.880 So usually you put a you put a piece of 0:03:46.920 --> 0:03:50.040 tape at the base of every time, and then you 0:03:50.120 --> 0:03:53.680 lay a wire. I've got a little cable actually, it's 0:03:53.680 --> 0:03:58.240 a cable over the top of the main beam. As 0:03:58.320 --> 0:04:01.640 if you were going to take a saw and cut 0:04:01.640 --> 0:04:05.680 that tying off flat, so the main beam would just 0:04:06.520 --> 0:04:09.200 would just be a main beam with no times like 0:04:09.360 --> 0:04:12.400 you you this envision, you know, this this invisible line 0:04:12.400 --> 0:04:14.240 that would go across there. You would mark it on 0:04:14.280 --> 0:04:17.360 the tape because you don't want to draw on somebody's 0:04:17.400 --> 0:04:19.599 dear an, let's put mask in tape there right there. 0:04:20.760 --> 0:04:23.960 And uh, but we didn't do that because this was 0:04:24.000 --> 0:04:27.040 a deer camp. This wasn't official. This was like deer camp, 0:04:27.320 --> 0:04:33.400 which in many ways is more official. Okay, um, because 0:04:34.040 --> 0:04:37.719 there's a little bit of liberty. But uh, Cody's buck 0:04:37.800 --> 0:04:41.839 was an eight point beautiful eight point dark racked, heavy 0:04:41.880 --> 0:04:45.080 horned The longest time was like ten and a half inches, 0:04:45.120 --> 0:04:48.679 I think, which is a tall time, real naughty, gnarly 0:04:48.720 --> 0:04:54.040 basis gnarly bases, uh, sixteen and a half inches wide 0:04:54.120 --> 0:04:57.200 or so, which is pretty typical of a good deer. 0:04:57.839 --> 0:05:00.839 And uh it scored like one thirty one and something, 0:05:00.880 --> 0:05:04.200 which is a really respectable eight points, especially for around 0:05:04.200 --> 0:05:08.159 here on public ground. So here's what was wild is 0:05:08.200 --> 0:05:13.280 that Matt thought for all these years that the deer 0:05:13.400 --> 0:05:15.839 that his deer which is a tent which which is 0:05:15.839 --> 0:05:18.280 a main frame ten point with a split brow time, 0:05:18.600 --> 0:05:21.039 so it's an eleven point. You thought it scored one 0:05:21.279 --> 0:05:23.600 would headed at one thirty two and a half. So 0:05:23.680 --> 0:05:25.599 you had that written on the back of the mount 0:05:25.680 --> 0:05:29.440 from two thousand one. Yeah, yeah, my rough measurements back then. 0:05:30.160 --> 0:05:32.039 Who knows where we got the information on how to 0:05:32.040 --> 0:05:36.360 measure it. Yeah, and so we just scored it and 0:05:36.480 --> 0:05:39.960 it scored. What did it score on a half? One 0:05:40.680 --> 0:05:43.599 and a half. It's like a surprise. This is like 0:05:44.120 --> 0:05:46.400 this thing has been on the wall for decade. It's 0:05:46.400 --> 0:05:49.160 not even been off the wall almost two decades. You 0:05:49.200 --> 0:05:51.799 pull it off the wall and it's ten inches bigger 0:05:51.839 --> 0:05:54.360 than you thought. Is this like change your life a 0:05:54.440 --> 0:05:58.160 little bit? I feel a little more accomplished. These guys 0:05:58.160 --> 0:05:59.800 are gonna have to work a little harder to be 0:06:00.080 --> 0:06:03.760 this camp record. I know. I'm really I was hoping 0:06:03.800 --> 0:06:06.520 Cody beat it like it's time. Yeah, yeah, I'm with it. 0:06:06.520 --> 0:06:08.600 It's been too long for one record. We we need 0:06:08.760 --> 0:06:10.640 something else to shoot. Would it would kind of give 0:06:10.680 --> 0:06:12.880 the camp a little bit of momentum to think that 0:06:12.920 --> 0:06:15.200 the record has been broken. Yeah, it's kind of like 0:06:15.240 --> 0:06:18.479 the world record typical White Tail was killed and I 0:06:18.560 --> 0:06:26.640 think nineteen um up in Saskatchewan by Hanson. Who golly, 0:06:27.040 --> 0:06:30.080 it's been so long. See, that's just it. It's been 0:06:30.160 --> 0:06:32.719 so long since the world record white too, Milo Hanson, 0:06:32.760 --> 0:06:34.640 that's his name. It's been so long since the world 0:06:34.720 --> 0:06:37.640 record white tail hit the dirt that we've forgotten the 0:06:37.640 --> 0:06:39.840 guy's name. Yeah, you don't even shoot for it anymore. 0:06:39.839 --> 0:06:42.600 It's just not achievable. Western were you going for a 0:06:42.640 --> 0:06:48.240 world record white tail this year? Sort of sort of hoping? Well, now, 0:06:48.320 --> 0:06:50.240 it would have given the camps the momentum. But I'm 0:06:50.240 --> 0:06:53.839 gonna say that Cody's buck. You could, you could find 0:06:53.880 --> 0:06:57.640 other categories like biggest eight point Yeah, yeah, it would 0:06:57.640 --> 0:06:59.800 definitely hit that. You know, we we've fast some good 0:06:59.800 --> 0:07:02.039 deer over the years. In fact, my oldest son, Jackson, 0:07:02.160 --> 0:07:06.480 killed a big eight point four years ago that uh, 0:07:07.200 --> 0:07:09.560 I would say it was maybe just under Cody's but 0:07:10.080 --> 0:07:14.560 we get a decent one every year. Yeah. Well, hey, 0:07:14.680 --> 0:07:16.840 so what we're gonna do on this podcast is I 0:07:16.920 --> 0:07:20.200 want to get around to butcher and a bear, how 0:07:20.240 --> 0:07:23.040 to process and butcher a bear, and all the different 0:07:23.080 --> 0:07:26.320 things that we can do with bare meat and bear fat. 0:07:26.760 --> 0:07:31.520 In Matt this year just got finished butcher and one 0:07:31.760 --> 0:07:34.320 killed a bear. We're gonna talk about that. But I've 0:07:34.320 --> 0:07:38.040 got Weston and Bear and Matt in here, because all 0:07:38.080 --> 0:07:40.760 of you guys have had an incredible season. I have not. 0:07:42.280 --> 0:07:48.640 Uh so Western You first second day of muzzleloader season 0:07:48.680 --> 0:07:52.760 killed the biggest buck of your life? Is that right? Yes? 0:07:53.000 --> 0:07:57.240 Were you excited about that? Very public land? Yeah? What 0:07:57.600 --> 0:08:00.720 just tell briefly tell me the story. I saw us 0:08:00.720 --> 0:08:04.239 sitting on the ground. Um, he dropped me off about 0:08:04.360 --> 0:08:09.480 four o'clock in the afternoon. Yeah, yeah, after he shot 0:08:09.480 --> 0:08:11.840 a dough that morning. Okay, that's right, you killed one 0:08:11.880 --> 0:08:17.480 that morning. Now set settled down about five o'clock. This 0:08:18.440 --> 0:08:20.720 dere it comes coming down and you could hear him coming, 0:08:21.720 --> 0:08:24.800 and um, he starts to get closer. I'm getting ready 0:08:24.840 --> 0:08:29.040 and he's I couldn't really see where he was until 0:08:29.040 --> 0:08:32.200 he started hook bushing, hook bushing, and uh see the 0:08:32.200 --> 0:08:36.680 tree just going back and forth, and um, I sort 0:08:36.679 --> 0:08:39.280 of sweart. I was going in my bag trying to 0:08:39.320 --> 0:08:40.880 can call it towards me because I thought I saw 0:08:40.920 --> 0:08:43.719 it going away from me. But I thought I messed up. 0:08:43.760 --> 0:08:52.040 And they're giving some sound effects. I don't think that. Okay, 0:08:52.080 --> 0:08:54.960 go ahead and uh wait, wait wait when you okay, 0:08:55.040 --> 0:08:56.520 let me just keep you and how we're gonna do this. 0:08:56.880 --> 0:08:59.240 When he said something, I need some sound effects, like 0:08:59.240 --> 0:09:02.160 if he says combustion, like I think that's kind of 0:09:02.200 --> 0:09:04.719 a camp term these guys have. I need to hear that. 0:09:06.679 --> 0:09:11.560 Go ahead, go ahead, okay, and uh he turns and 0:09:11.640 --> 0:09:18.440 starts coming right to me, and she turns go ahead. 0:09:18.480 --> 0:09:20.720 And I looked at my gun and clicked back the hammer, 0:09:20.720 --> 0:09:23.200 and all I see is his head and his neck, like, 0:09:23.240 --> 0:09:25.480 this is the only shot I have. So I took 0:09:25.520 --> 0:09:28.160 it and he went down just right in his tracks. 0:09:29.400 --> 0:09:33.560 Next shot, yeah, next shot right in the white patch. No. 0:09:34.240 --> 0:09:36.599 It was like if I was an inch off, it 0:09:36.640 --> 0:09:41.160 probably would have missed it. Oh yeah, I got lucky, okay, 0:09:41.400 --> 0:09:44.319 and went down. I was shaking real bad, trying to 0:09:44.360 --> 0:09:48.120 get the cap out, struggling. I finally got all loaded, 0:09:48.320 --> 0:09:50.120 waited a little bit. Then I walked up on it 0:09:50.320 --> 0:09:57.800 and it was big, big, nice public land six. Yeah awesome. Well, 0:09:58.120 --> 0:10:00.520 Weston had to sit there with that deer for two hours. 0:10:00.920 --> 0:10:03.120 We didn't have any communication in the mountains, and I 0:10:03.160 --> 0:10:04.959 told him I'd come and get him at dark. Yeah, 0:10:05.480 --> 0:10:07.920 and uh, I was walking in and it was after dark. 0:10:07.960 --> 0:10:09.599 I had my flashlight and I got almost two of 0:10:09.640 --> 0:10:13.640 them and out here, Dad, hurry, oh boy, something that happened. 0:10:14.960 --> 0:10:19.439 I bet that was a long two hours, wasn't it. Yeah? Now, okay, 0:10:19.520 --> 0:10:22.160 so Weston killed the gobbler in the spring too. It 0:10:22.240 --> 0:10:26.240 was your first gobbler and then on the very same day, 0:10:26.760 --> 0:10:30.800 was it not? So Baron Western or fourteen your fourteen 0:10:31.040 --> 0:10:36.600 no night yet you okay? Okay, thirteen bears fourteen and uh, 0:10:36.679 --> 0:10:39.480 you killed the gobbler. We got a text message from 0:10:39.520 --> 0:10:42.880 them on open a day youth season and uh, we 0:10:42.920 --> 0:10:44.920 didn't even know they were going turkey hunting. Yeah, I 0:10:44.920 --> 0:10:46.600 think I text you. I said, hey, are you home? 0:10:46.600 --> 0:10:49.440 We got something to show you? Yeah? Yeah, and uh 0:10:49.520 --> 0:10:52.800 and we were down we were at turkey hunting. And anyway, 0:10:52.920 --> 0:10:55.360 bar ended up killing one late in the morning. So Bear, 0:10:55.640 --> 0:10:58.480 so y'all both killed gobblers. And then Bear tell me 0:10:58.760 --> 0:11:02.880 give me the like Abrevier did version of your Halloween Buck. Okay, 0:11:02.960 --> 0:11:07.120 so I got home pretty late at like three thirty 0:11:07.200 --> 0:11:13.120 or something. West excuse me. I need sound effects anything 0:11:13.200 --> 0:11:18.080 that any action word, any verbs. This is like English class. 0:11:18.120 --> 0:11:21.600 I need some sound effect. Okay, quality is not the 0:11:21.640 --> 0:11:26.360 issue here. Just energy energy. Okay, this rings energy, Okay, 0:11:26.400 --> 0:11:30.640 I need this, okay, all right. So it's Halloween Day 0:11:30.679 --> 0:11:33.079 and I got back from school pretty late, about the 0:11:33.120 --> 0:11:36.400 time i'd want to get in the stand. And so 0:11:36.720 --> 0:11:39.120 I got home and I quickly got dressed because I 0:11:39.200 --> 0:11:43.480 knew that I wanted to go. So I asked River, 0:11:43.600 --> 0:11:46.600 my sister, if she could drive me over to this place. 0:11:48.200 --> 0:11:49.920 She could drive me over to this place about half 0:11:49.920 --> 0:11:53.520 a mile from her house, and I took a climbing 0:11:53.520 --> 0:11:55.960 stand in me. But you calculated the wind because I 0:11:56.000 --> 0:11:58.720 told you to go somewhere else. Yeah, the wind was 0:12:00.160 --> 0:12:04.600 out of the south, blowing north, and so I knew 0:12:04.600 --> 0:12:07.320 this stand where you would call that a south wind, okay, Yeah, 0:12:07.880 --> 0:12:11.000 and that's something that maybe not everybody would understand. But 0:12:11.120 --> 0:12:13.880 a wind that's blowing to the north as a south wind. 0:12:14.200 --> 0:12:18.120 So the wind is categorized about the direction that comes from. Yeah, 0:12:18.720 --> 0:12:20.760 And so I knew that the wind at the spot 0:12:20.800 --> 0:12:23.160 I would sitting will be blowing into a field where 0:12:23.160 --> 0:12:25.319 I didn't think that the deer would come from. So 0:12:25.360 --> 0:12:28.079 I went and I climbed this wide oak tree after 0:12:28.160 --> 0:12:31.319 trying to climb a shag bark hickory tree with a 0:12:31.360 --> 0:12:33.520 climbing stand. Oh you didn't tell me that you tried 0:12:33.520 --> 0:12:36.920 to climb hill tree is not the kind of tree 0:12:36.960 --> 0:12:39.400 a lot of climbate of climbate. I got like six 0:12:39.440 --> 0:12:42.400 ft up and decided that you're like, not, this is 0:12:42.400 --> 0:12:44.520 not gonna work easy to come down. They're hard to 0:12:44.520 --> 0:12:46.880 go up. Yeah, because the way that the way the 0:12:46.920 --> 0:12:49.480 bark lies. Yeah. So I went to this like white 0:12:49.520 --> 0:12:52.760 oak tree, probably like ten ft from it, climbed up. 0:12:52.760 --> 0:12:57.240 It got up probably a like four forty five, a 0:12:57.240 --> 0:12:59.320 lot later than i'd want to be up getting dark 0:12:59.400 --> 0:13:02.960 at six yeah, before time change, and so I waited 0:13:02.960 --> 0:13:05.480 about fifteen minutes before I started calling. I would do 0:13:05.640 --> 0:13:09.000 an extra spleet and then I would do like attending grunt. 0:13:09.160 --> 0:13:12.120 Like we're like, we need, we need, I need to 0:13:12.160 --> 0:13:14.800 hear this, but we're like it'd be like a couple 0:13:14.840 --> 0:13:18.520 of deep your mouth like a round, you know, like 0:13:18.640 --> 0:13:21.920 the extra sleet, and then like an okay, So the 0:13:21.960 --> 0:13:26.400 extras bleet would be like a long, higher pitched bleat 0:13:26.559 --> 0:13:34.360 that ends with a little crescendo yeah yeah, and then yeah, 0:13:34.559 --> 0:13:38.560 and then attending grunt is like a deeper grunt and 0:13:38.600 --> 0:13:41.520 it's kind of like that there's like a buck tending 0:13:41.520 --> 0:13:44.640 a dough basically, And then so I was doing that 0:13:44.679 --> 0:13:46.840 like when they're doing that Western if you heard about 0:13:46.880 --> 0:13:51.200 grunt in the woods. Yeah, they when they're with a 0:13:51.280 --> 0:13:55.000 dough that they're kind of like corraling and trying to 0:13:56.000 --> 0:13:59.000 you know, do what they do. They he's like back 0:13:59.720 --> 0:14:05.240 back back, just I mean, like it's an incredible thing 0:14:05.240 --> 0:14:07.199 to hear. I've heard it, you know a few times, 0:14:07.240 --> 0:14:09.199 and it's just it's kind of like hearing a turkey go, 0:14:09.440 --> 0:14:14.960 which like you know, something special is happening. Yeah, And 0:14:15.040 --> 0:14:17.400 so I was doing that probably like every fifteen minutes 0:14:17.440 --> 0:14:19.840 about the time that like whenever I had grunt that 0:14:19.920 --> 0:14:23.080 like I would think, if a deer here's this, it'll 0:14:23.120 --> 0:14:27.160 come in. But then I would wait until like whichever 0:14:27.720 --> 0:14:31.200 deer that was that would have been there would be 0:14:31.360 --> 0:14:35.520 I've decided to not come basically. So I was doing 0:14:35.560 --> 0:14:40.040 that probably every fifteen minutes. And at about five thirty 0:14:40.960 --> 0:14:45.680 almost exactly, I did that, and about forty five seconds later, 0:14:46.400 --> 0:14:50.520 I see a rack of like a big, bigger rack 0:14:50.560 --> 0:14:53.440 than anything that I've ever shot coming down the hill 0:14:54.200 --> 0:14:55.800 and he was just coming straight towards me, and he 0:14:55.880 --> 0:14:59.840 was grunting every time you take a step. He got yeah, 0:15:00.200 --> 0:15:03.120 and he got He just walked right behind me like 0:15:03.360 --> 0:15:07.720 perfect at seventeen yards and I drew back a grunt, 0:15:07.720 --> 0:15:10.920 stopped him, shot hit him a little high, so he 0:15:11.000 --> 0:15:13.520 just dropped and then you know, I shot him and 0:15:14.720 --> 0:15:18.520 dropped him, dropped him with a bow nice ten point. 0:15:18.920 --> 0:15:22.000 I was I was hunting somewhere else and he texted 0:15:22.040 --> 0:15:25.800 me what was funny? And this is the way this 0:15:25.840 --> 0:15:28.920 is kind of what you you kind of live for 0:15:29.200 --> 0:15:35.280 in the fall, is that moment when things shift because hunting, 0:15:35.840 --> 0:15:37.720 I'm in this stage of hunting right now where it 0:15:37.720 --> 0:15:41.280 just almost seems impossible, Like I hadn't whitetail hunted this 0:15:41.440 --> 0:15:44.440 much in years. I mean, I've just spent an incredible 0:15:44.440 --> 0:15:47.080 amount of time in the woods and I have yet 0:15:47.160 --> 0:15:50.360 to I did draw my bow on a shooter buck, 0:15:50.680 --> 0:15:52.640 but then that's it. I haven't killed one. And so 0:15:52.680 --> 0:15:55.280 you just get to thinking like this is just an 0:15:55.320 --> 0:16:01.560 impossible task. And then just all of a sudden things change. 0:16:01.720 --> 0:16:04.240 Because I had texted Bear and he was like, you 0:16:04.240 --> 0:16:07.520 see anything, and I was like, no, have you know nothing? 0:16:08.000 --> 0:16:11.080 You know, just like this pretty typical exchange we'd have 0:16:11.600 --> 0:16:16.880 and then like four minutes later, big ten point down. Yeah, 0:16:17.240 --> 0:16:20.560 it was exciting, and it was Halloween night and a 0:16:20.600 --> 0:16:22.320 bunch of people were coming over to our house for 0:16:22.400 --> 0:16:24.920 a kind of a bonfire, and that made it all 0:16:24.960 --> 0:16:27.960 the more fun. You'll probably once in your life kill 0:16:28.000 --> 0:16:32.680 a deer like at a time when like a whole 0:16:32.720 --> 0:16:34.760 bunch of people are gonna be like coming to your 0:16:34.800 --> 0:16:37.600 I'm being serious, like usually it's kind of a solo 0:16:37.800 --> 0:16:41.360 thing and you share the experience with people after the 0:16:41.440 --> 0:16:44.800 fact or through technology, or you call somebody and tell 0:16:44.880 --> 0:16:47.000 them it's pretty special when you kill a deer and 0:16:47.040 --> 0:16:48.960 you can bring but I know it deer camp. You guys, 0:16:49.000 --> 0:16:51.840 would I mean you have that experience that deer camp. Yeah, 0:16:51.920 --> 0:16:55.240 I started say. It's it's incredibly the parallels these boys 0:16:55.240 --> 0:16:58.080 have had this year between killing that their first gobber 0:16:58.200 --> 0:17:00.600 on the same day and then this year both of 0:17:00.640 --> 0:17:04.160 them getting a good buck. Western had a similar experience. 0:17:04.160 --> 0:17:07.800 On our way into camp. We use CB radios up 0:17:07.800 --> 0:17:10.119 there in the mountains, and our radio to head to 0:17:10.119 --> 0:17:13.159 the camp. As we're coming up the mountain, and the 0:17:13.160 --> 0:17:17.040 guys answered, I said, hey, Weston is bringing another big 0:17:17.080 --> 0:17:19.439 one into camp. Get the hanging tree ready and we 0:17:19.520 --> 0:17:21.919 got up there. Man, it was real special. Everybody gathered 0:17:21.960 --> 0:17:24.359 around the truck and they're high five and just a 0:17:25.040 --> 0:17:27.880 really cool moment. And so bear got to experience that too, 0:17:27.880 --> 0:17:35.639 I know. Yeah, yeah cool. Well, and then, uh, Matt, 0:17:36.840 --> 0:17:39.159 you've had a heck of a year. We were just 0:17:39.200 --> 0:17:42.679 going through, like, give me a give me an overview 0:17:42.840 --> 0:17:45.159 of how your year so far? And then but I 0:17:45.200 --> 0:17:48.200 want to get to the specifics of the bear. Sure, 0:17:48.280 --> 0:17:51.080 but yeah, give me an overview. Yeah, well, the bear 0:17:51.440 --> 0:17:56.520 kicked it all off. Really. That was October two. Uh, 0:17:56.760 --> 0:17:59.360 we went and hunted that bear and and got got 0:17:59.400 --> 0:18:02.120 it with a bow. I kicked off the season. Man. 0:18:02.160 --> 0:18:04.840 That that I guess we'll talk more in detail about 0:18:04.880 --> 0:18:08.440 that later. But uh, Weston and I and and our 0:18:08.600 --> 0:18:11.320 our buddies, we all camped the week of musloader season. 0:18:11.320 --> 0:18:12.960 It's a big week for us. And we went down 0:18:13.000 --> 0:18:16.560 there and my oldest daughter, June is six years old, 0:18:17.320 --> 0:18:19.480 and she came with us this year for the first time. 0:18:19.520 --> 0:18:24.119 And uh, Saturday and Sunday we didn't see anything. Weston 0:18:24.400 --> 0:18:27.359 got his two deer on Sunday, and then Monday morning, 0:18:27.560 --> 0:18:31.080 June and I got a seven point buck together and 0:18:31.119 --> 0:18:35.359 so that was pretty incredible. The next morning, UH, June, 0:18:35.400 --> 0:18:39.000 Western and I all hunted together and and we had 0:18:39.040 --> 0:18:41.639 Weston set up on a hot trail and and a 0:18:41.760 --> 0:18:45.040 nice nine point came in behind June and I I 0:18:45.160 --> 0:18:47.640 wasn't expecting to come from that way. There's no way 0:18:47.680 --> 0:18:50.399 Weston was going to see it. So I had to 0:18:50.400 --> 0:18:53.600 do the shooting, which I sure hated to do, but 0:18:53.600 --> 0:18:56.160 but I got that one. So we we killed bucks 0:18:56.200 --> 0:18:59.080 two days in a row. So I had a had 0:18:59.080 --> 0:19:02.720 a bear in two bucks at that point. And then uh, 0:19:03.040 --> 0:19:06.240 later that week, I was still hunting with a muzzloader. 0:19:06.520 --> 0:19:11.080 UH still had dough tags and got a bobcat, which 0:19:11.119 --> 0:19:13.520 I've been trying to kill a bobcat my entire life. 0:19:13.520 --> 0:19:16.000 I've shot at him. I've never gotten one until this year. 0:19:16.760 --> 0:19:19.800 So that kind of came together. And then this past weekend, 0:19:20.440 --> 0:19:22.639 Western and Bear and I went back to deer camp. 0:19:23.119 --> 0:19:27.119 They were able to hunt with rifles, my youth and 0:19:27.200 --> 0:19:30.200 I took my bowl, thinking, you know, I'm still still 0:19:30.240 --> 0:19:34.680 after a dough and Uh, Saturday evening, right before dark, 0:19:34.760 --> 0:19:37.880 a big wild hog came through and I was able 0:19:37.960 --> 0:19:41.119 to get him. So a bear, two bucks, a bobcat, 0:19:41.119 --> 0:19:45.920 and a hog. Wow, man, and this hog, uh, this 0:19:45.960 --> 0:19:48.920 hog was quite the word deal. You don't have to 0:19:48.960 --> 0:19:52.280 go into all the details. But you shot this hog 0:19:52.720 --> 0:19:56.040 right at dark and y'all trailed it for now. I've 0:19:56.080 --> 0:19:59.320 i've i've kind of mind this story out of all 0:19:59.359 --> 0:20:01.400 of you, individ, Julie and I have pretty much come 0:20:01.440 --> 0:20:03.840 to the same story. So I know you're not lying, 0:20:04.920 --> 0:20:11.160 But the collective ideas that trailed this this hog close 0:20:11.200 --> 0:20:15.600 to a mile, that'd be my guess. I know. Walking 0:20:15.760 --> 0:20:18.640 hard back to the truck up a creek bed took 0:20:18.720 --> 0:20:24.520 us probably an hour. Yeah, so and and and we're 0:20:24.680 --> 0:20:27.880 trailing this thing, crawling through briars, you know, after this 0:20:28.000 --> 0:20:32.080 big wounded bore, no weapon, you know, flashlight, and went 0:20:32.119 --> 0:20:35.480 in and weren't really prepared. We're just going to retrieve 0:20:35.480 --> 0:20:38.439 my arrow. I thought I missed it. Oh, so we 0:20:38.520 --> 0:20:41.560 went in totally unprepared, and so by the end of 0:20:41.600 --> 0:20:43.800 it we trailed. We got a knife in one hand 0:20:43.800 --> 0:20:48.000 and a flashlighting, not knowing what we're gonna walk up on. 0:20:49.240 --> 0:20:51.920 But we eventually did find him. Well. And so go 0:20:51.960 --> 0:20:54.439 ahead and tell kind of the end of the story. 0:20:54.520 --> 0:21:00.280 You you give up on the trail. Yeah, he made 0:21:00.280 --> 0:21:03.359 it to a field, and uh, there was five of 0:21:03.440 --> 0:21:07.040 us looking, two of my buddies, Rustling Cody and then 0:21:07.119 --> 0:21:10.080 me Bear and Weston and Rustling Cody. We're gonna going 0:21:10.119 --> 0:21:12.080 ahead and try to figure out where we were because 0:21:12.119 --> 0:21:16.160 we we lost our sense of direction. Moon hadn't coming 0:21:16.240 --> 0:21:18.320 up yet middle of the night, and they're gonna try 0:21:18.359 --> 0:21:20.560 to find They think they know where a road is, 0:21:21.119 --> 0:21:23.399 so they leave us, and we we lost blood trail 0:21:23.960 --> 0:21:26.520 after a while. And I'm like, boys, that's it, I said, 0:21:27.480 --> 0:21:29.840 all for none. Man, We're just gonna have to go 0:21:29.920 --> 0:21:31.720 and try to find those guys and get out of here. 0:21:32.200 --> 0:21:35.919 We take about what ten or fifteen steps Weston and 0:21:36.000 --> 0:21:39.360 I here, and I shined the light over and we 0:21:39.400 --> 0:21:43.720 are what ten ft from this bore. I mean he's 0:21:43.840 --> 0:21:48.360 right there and standing up like he's yea, oh man. 0:21:48.440 --> 0:21:52.679 That shook us up pretty good. But he was he 0:21:52.760 --> 0:21:55.600 was almost expired, like he didn't charge us or anything. 0:21:56.640 --> 0:21:59.720 So we uh again, didn't have a weapon other than 0:21:59.800 --> 0:22:01.680 I for none of us were brave enough to dive 0:22:01.680 --> 0:22:05.000 in on him, so we uh, we just we had 0:22:05.000 --> 0:22:11.120 to leave. No. Can you believe it? Wow? Well, I'll 0:22:11.119 --> 0:22:15.639 say that's a pretty uh I mean wild boars are 0:22:15.280 --> 0:22:18.560 if they're not just stereotype to be aggressive, I mean 0:22:18.600 --> 0:22:24.000 they really are aggressive. Um so, I mean it's pretty unusual. 0:22:24.080 --> 0:22:26.440 I would say if he had enough life to be 0:22:26.640 --> 0:22:30.280 standing there, that he didn't at least take a round 0:22:30.280 --> 0:22:32.520 at you could have been dangerous. He was chopping his 0:22:32.600 --> 0:22:34.879 jaws at us. This is not a small hawk. Is 0:22:34.960 --> 0:22:39.159 that big hawk? I would say, over three pounds and 0:22:39.320 --> 0:22:42.440 big tusks? Big tusk yeah, probably two two and a 0:22:42.480 --> 0:22:47.200 half inches long. Yeah, yeah, he was big. Well, man, 0:22:47.240 --> 0:22:51.679 that's quite the Uh. The Arkansas slam right there to 0:22:51.760 --> 0:22:55.080 get a wild hog, buck and a bear West to 0:22:55.160 --> 0:22:59.640 kill a turkey. So the family, the family slam our 0:22:59.720 --> 0:23:03.720 best year ever for sure. Yeah, well that's pretty cool. 0:23:04.359 --> 0:23:11.040 That is pretty cool. Well, um, Matt, so let's talk 0:23:11.040 --> 0:23:14.680 about let's talk about our bear hunt. Um. I wasn't 0:23:14.760 --> 0:23:21.040 planning on I wasn't planning on inviting you. I wasn't either, 0:23:21.080 --> 0:23:25.479 I was working that day. Yeah, Now I kind of 0:23:25.480 --> 0:23:29.760 felt like this would happen. Is that? So the first weekend, 0:23:29.960 --> 0:23:33.600 all the kids hunted and I kind of just I 0:23:33.680 --> 0:23:35.880 was saving my tag to kill a bear in the mountains. 0:23:36.119 --> 0:23:38.919 This is the this is a short version. I was saving. 0:23:39.040 --> 0:23:40.919 I didn't I didn't want. I didn't plan to kill 0:23:40.960 --> 0:23:43.360 a bear over bait, even though we were baiting bears 0:23:43.400 --> 0:23:48.080 and had bears on bait. So after the weekend, the 0:23:48.160 --> 0:23:52.280