WEBVTT - #141 - Kyle

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Boutleg keV Show. We got a special guest,

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<v Speaker 1>my guy Kyle is here. Man. Thank you keV, Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you keV. Yes, shouts out to keV Man. Yeah. So

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<v Speaker 1>are we back to independent now? We're back to independent, bro,

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<v Speaker 1>which is how it all started. It's how it started.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's that's like, that's home for me, you feel me?

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<v Speaker 1>Independent is like that's comfortable. That's how I know operate best. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like you know, for people who don't know you,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like there was like a cool wave of

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<v Speaker 1>like you guys like yourself. There was the guy who

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<v Speaker 1>looked like he should be in like a fifties movie

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<v Speaker 1>with the glasses. Uh, fucking gorgeous looking guy with the

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<v Speaker 1>hair you would make musical. No, no, he kind of

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<v Speaker 1>he was kind of like the GZ that didn't make it,

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<v Speaker 1>the GZ that didn't make it. Gorgeous looking guy front

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<v Speaker 1>of the fifties. Oh you mean do you why? D

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<v Speaker 1>you why? And then futuristic and like you know what

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<v Speaker 1>do you why? Though? Is actually he's doing he's doing

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<v Speaker 1>some cool ship. Yeah, he's doing his thing. Do I

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<v Speaker 1>do you? I? But I just remember like that it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like you know, like because I was real

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<v Speaker 1>cool with Futuristic at the time, and so like I

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<v Speaker 1>would kind of always see your shit and his shit,

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<v Speaker 1>and but like independently you kind of got it out

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<v Speaker 1>the mud. So you know, there's a lot been going

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<v Speaker 1>on with you, man. Yeah, yeah, what brought you back

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of leaving the major label system and getting

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<v Speaker 1>back to what you what you know best? You know what?

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<v Speaker 1>For me, it was like when when I when I

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<v Speaker 1>partnered with you know, a major, It was a cool

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<v Speaker 1>experience because it's like, damn, you know, you have his

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<v Speaker 1>budget for everything. Everything you're doing is coming out at

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<v Speaker 1>like the top tier things. But you start realizing pretty quickly,

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<v Speaker 1>like there's not much that they can do for your

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<v Speaker 1>music to like explode at this this expectation that they've

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<v Speaker 1>set you at now, you know what I mean. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>really all of my success was organic as fuck, you

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<v Speaker 1>feel me? Like my marketing advice from people I was

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<v Speaker 1>working with was to do this, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's like, well, you're getting paid for this, and

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<v Speaker 1>they're no shit, they're getting paid a lot for that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and and you got to recoup whatever they're

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<v Speaker 1>getting paid exactly. And so and it's no like shade

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<v Speaker 1>to them at all, because my time working with Atlantic

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<v Speaker 1>was awesome. But I just realized, I'm like, oh, financially,

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<v Speaker 1>it makes way more sense for me to just do

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<v Speaker 1>this thing myself, because that's all they're asking me to

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<v Speaker 1>do anyways, Just be you and hopefully something pops off.

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<v Speaker 1>But if it doesn't pop off, we're gonna be like disappointed,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. And now it's like being independent.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm getting back to just making music because I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's cool, not because you're chasing. I'm chasing some sort

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<v Speaker 1>of smash and especially for me, the smash record they

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<v Speaker 1>want me to chase is like a diamond song, Like

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, Like I cannot repeat that

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<v Speaker 1>success for you at the drop of a dime. And

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<v Speaker 1>also I don't want to spend the rest of my

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<v Speaker 1>career trying to repeat that for y'all, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean. And then also like just all that goes

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<v Speaker 1>into that, right like like in the major label system,

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to force you into the studio of people

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<v Speaker 1>that you don't want to be with and all that,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they're going to maybe force the song to

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<v Speaker 1>drop that you might not feel crazy about. But then

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<v Speaker 1>they put all this fucking money behind it, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, well, what what the fuck? Like I gotta

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<v Speaker 1>fucking that comes out of my fucking that you add

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<v Speaker 1>to my balance? Yeah, yeah, one one, that's adding to

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<v Speaker 1>my tab and then two it's like really and and me,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I'm I'm really easy to work with, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm impressionable, right, Like I'm nice, I'm easy going, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like flowing with it. And now I'm noticing that

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<v Speaker 1>like the team I've built, you know, is sort of

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<v Speaker 1>pushing me in a direction that it's not necessarily good

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<v Speaker 1>for me. It's not healthy for me, you know, Like

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<v Speaker 1>it's not healthy for me as an artist. Like I

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<v Speaker 1>was put here to make music and to like honestly

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<v Speaker 1>go against the grain. It just so happened at this

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<v Speaker 1>one moment in time, me going against the grain became

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<v Speaker 1>the popular thing. But if you ask anybody who's ever

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<v Speaker 1>worked with me, I'm always in the studio trying to

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<v Speaker 1>do whatever is most left. That's just how I operate, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. And so when you have this whole building

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<v Speaker 1>behind you and it's like nah, we going left, They're like, no, Kyle,

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<v Speaker 1>fuck go right, man, go nah, I can't you know? Yeah? No?

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<v Speaker 1>Was it like because when you have a record like

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<v Speaker 1>I Spy, which is like, like you said, it's diamond,

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<v Speaker 1>It's not diamond, but it's going to be diamond. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like seven crazy going eight times insane and it streams

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<v Speaker 1>like two hundred and fifty million times a year. It's insane.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like one of those insane hit record anomalies. And

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<v Speaker 1>was it like a curse? And I mean, obviously you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna love the money, you go love the head. That

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<v Speaker 1>shit put a lot of money in your pocket, But like,

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<v Speaker 1>is there a curse? That's the reason I can go independent.

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<v Speaker 1>I never need to be with I probably never need

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<v Speaker 1>to be with a major again because of that song.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's amazing, And it's like that's where my

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<v Speaker 1>true joy is coming from, me being able to do

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<v Speaker 1>art the way I want to do it, not because

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<v Speaker 1>I do it to make money Financial Pillow exactly. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But do you think, like, just in terms of like

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<v Speaker 1>Atlantic's perspective, when that's like your first I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess kind of your first record with them, If you

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<v Speaker 1>feel like and it's like a diamond song, it kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like the expectation now is like exactly, So it's

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<v Speaker 1>like no matter what and that, and you're like, yo,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like an artist, I do like cool artistic shit. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like I got here for a reason, but now

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<v Speaker 1>I'm those guys are going to have you be like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well we got to follow this up straight up. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's why I don't like take anything away from them

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<v Speaker 1>and what they're trying to do. I think just for me,

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<v Speaker 1>like the situation just no longer fits what makes what

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<v Speaker 1>brings me joy, and that's what life is about. You

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<v Speaker 1>feel me having as much joy as possible until you

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<v Speaker 1>finally are no longer here, and I think, yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>just didn't add up for bringing me joy anymore, because

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<v Speaker 1>it's like y'all, one, you're like, our idea for how

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<v Speaker 1>to pop this off is just to me to shoot tiktoks,

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<v Speaker 1>like I can do that all my own straight up,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks to the advice. Thank you for the advice. Then two,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like okay, yeah, that that song that y'all want

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<v Speaker 1>me to follow up is like a once sent a

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<v Speaker 1>generational song, Like, so I can't dedicate the next five

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<v Speaker 1>years of my career to just trying to put that

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<v Speaker 1>on the board. I'm not gonna have fun. I need

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to go just do shit I want

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<v Speaker 1>to do without feeling like I'm letting y'all down every time.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I said, like now we're going left fucking God

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<v Speaker 1>please right, Nah, I can't. It felt like there was

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of records that you dropped that like felt

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<v Speaker 1>very forced. Yeah, you know, and I I agree. The

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<v Speaker 1>thing is with me, I can kind of make any

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<v Speaker 1>kind of genre of music, right, And that's not like

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<v Speaker 1>trying to big myself up too much. It's just the truth,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. I mean, like I can go in the

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<v Speaker 1>studio with any person from any background, any language, anywhere

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<v Speaker 1>in the world, and I'm gonna make a slap with you.

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<v Speaker 1>So like I'm always down to try some shit. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm realizing, oh, I'm trying this and y'all are excited

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<v Speaker 1>about it because you're just thinking dollar signs and that's

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<v Speaker 1>not how our is supposed to be. Made you feel

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<v Speaker 1>me like Quincy Jones told me, And it's the truest thing.

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<v Speaker 1>The moment you're in the studio and you start thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about money or you start thinking about financial success, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's what you're talking about. God gets up and leaves,

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<v Speaker 1>And if God is not in there making songs with you,

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<v Speaker 1>what makes you think it's gonna be hard. It's not.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything that's fire in the world is fire because God

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<v Speaker 1>helped it be lit like that, Like, if he's not

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<v Speaker 1>in the studio, which you making music, it's not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>slab And the moment you start focusing on my money

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<v Speaker 1>that she's not gonna slap, so it's like, yo, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>just some of those records, I felt like, we're we're

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<v Speaker 1>doing this because I'm so nice and I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 1>appease this. Y'all just want another massive, massive song, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's like I can't. I can't spend my time doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>And it also like obviously the situation was probably very

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<v Speaker 1>beneficial because it, I mean, when you're on a major

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<v Speaker 1>there is a notoriety that comes with that. There is

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<v Speaker 1>a you know, and I feel invisible and like, you know, shit,

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<v Speaker 1>you got into the acting game. The Netflix movie was

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<v Speaker 1>super dope. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember that. I

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<v Speaker 1>just remember you puked yes after party after parting. That

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<v Speaker 1>shit was great. It was like realistic too. It was

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<v Speaker 1>like kind of like it was like low key, like

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<v Speaker 1>a little like Davish before Dave. Yeah, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>it felt very like almost like a bio pick or something.

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<v Speaker 1>But the only thing is it was really close to

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<v Speaker 1>my life. But I think that was just the star

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<v Speaker 1>as aligning. Like the kids supposed to be maxed that's

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<v Speaker 1>one thing. Like his dad's supposed to be in the Marines,

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<v Speaker 1>that's another thing. It was like the East Coast version

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<v Speaker 1>of my actual life. You know, his manager being like

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<v Speaker 1>this other white dude that is his friend from where

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<v Speaker 1>he's from. It's like Nolan, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like very yeah, It's like it's like the New

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<v Speaker 1>York version of me. The like I thought that movie

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<v Speaker 1>was great. Are you doing more of that? Like are

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<v Speaker 1>you gonna be doing more acting and stuff? Like yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>hell yeah I did. I was. I was lucky enough

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<v Speaker 1>to be in this uh Russo Brothers movie called Cherry

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<v Speaker 1>Fire starring uh yeah, starring Tom Holland, Michael Gandalafini, Sierra Bravos,

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<v Speaker 1>the two named Forrest Good like Spider Man's in it.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like, yeah, I mean the movie's already out.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen this. Yeah, it's already came out of

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<v Speaker 1>Apple and by the way, Tom, That's why, because who's

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<v Speaker 1>got my dog? My dog? Shout out to Apple plus

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<v Speaker 1>ted Lasso's gas. Yeah, ted Lasso's Hey, Cherry's gas. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna check it out my free my free Uh what

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<v Speaker 1>was it? The free trial ran out? So I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, well I knocked out ted Lasso. Now I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta sign up. I'm too busy watching you get a

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<v Speaker 1>fire stick and just call it a day, bro, Just

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<v Speaker 1>go on, bro, I got over that ship. Cody trying

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<v Speaker 1>to link sloading being all fucking slow. I'm like, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna pay for everything. What am I doing?

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<v Speaker 1>You'd be like thirty minutes into a fucking bootleg link

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<v Speaker 1>on your hacked fire stick and this ship would freeze.

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<v Speaker 1>You'd have to find a new link. It was not

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<v Speaker 1>for sure, pay for the ship, man. Just just pay

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<v Speaker 1>for keV. You got it, bro keV, you have it,

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<v Speaker 1>you got it. I have every everything else. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a fucking paramount. Plus watching Apple plus Yellowstone right now,

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<v Speaker 1>get Apple plus you watch Yellowstone. I do. It's it's tight.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of like the real it's kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>the real, like cowboy version of succession. That's all it's

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<v Speaker 1>succession with like guns and more alcohol. That's like, that's

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<v Speaker 1>Dunton is a fucking gangster ass bitch. She's lit. She's lit.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like it's like Sons of Anarchy on on horses. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it gives me succession vibes too. Yeah, because the family aspect,

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<v Speaker 1>and yeah, I'm still a touch of racism in there.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of like there's like this, It's like it's

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<v Speaker 1>like the Salt Bay, like just enough little It's a

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<v Speaker 1>great show, but let's see. Yeah, it's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>white people in Montana. Then you got the one black

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<v Speaker 1>guy who's in the bunk house. Yeah, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>the thing is, Bro never says ship. I'm like, yo,

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't say ship. He's just there just like we need,

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<v Speaker 1>we need, we need a black like diversity. Just give

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<v Speaker 1>one black dude, put him in there. I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>him say nothing. But I do love the show. Hey, Yellowstone,

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<v Speaker 1>I love the shot. I think it's fine. Kevin Costner's

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<v Speaker 1>from Compton. Kevin Costners from Compton, but Kevin Costner also

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<v Speaker 1>is from Ventura. What Yeah, I didn't know that. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>growing up in Ventura, you like everybody's like Kevin Costner,

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<v Speaker 1>he's like the most. He went to Bay High School.

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<v Speaker 1>He went to the high school that my fiance went to. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually met Kevin Costner before, like in Inventura. Yeah, Inventura.

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<v Speaker 1>We were doing like this venta like little I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was like a benefit concert, and all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>this like kind of like security guard type dude walks

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<v Speaker 1>up and it's like, hey, you know, Kevin Costner is

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<v Speaker 1>like here, and I'm like shit, Kevin content like, yeah,

0:11:44.679 --> 0:11:46.320
<v Speaker 1>right there, Like you can say hi to him. It's

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<v Speaker 1>almost like an invitation to say what's up, but not

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<v Speaker 1>like Kevin cost wants to say hi to you, Just

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<v Speaker 1>just so you know he's right there. You can talk

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<v Speaker 1>to him, like oh shit, you know, I'm kind of nervous.

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<v Speaker 1>I walk up. I'm like yo, uh keV. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's nice to meet you, manmind It's like, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>know you are. He's like, yeah, you're mister Ventura now,

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<v Speaker 1>and I like, wow, cry bro Kevin Costner called me

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<v Speaker 1>mister Ventura. You know it's crazy now that that's like

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<v Speaker 1>a title somebody has. But if anybody can give that

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<v Speaker 1>title out to something, yeah for sure him. Yeah, as

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<v Speaker 1>much as like Kevin Costner is a legend, feel the

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<v Speaker 1>Dreams Dances with the Wolves. If I meet Kevin Costerer today,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm calling him John Dunton, even call hi John. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's even more lit because that means he's still

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<v Speaker 1>Like if if somebody can look at you like an actor, Dunton,

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<v Speaker 1>can I get a photo straight up as an actor?

0:12:31.960 --> 0:12:33.679
<v Speaker 1>If somebody can look at you and call you your

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<v Speaker 1>character's name, like, your shit is smacking right then and

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<v Speaker 1>there in the moment, you know what I mean. Yeah, yeah, yeah, No,

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<v Speaker 1>it's crazy because I'm on you know now, I'm on

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<v Speaker 1>the radio every night in Ventura shot out to Cue

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<v Speaker 1>and Mambo and those guys and sir. But I went

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<v Speaker 1>and had lunch, like downtow. Venture is a vibe. It's yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>come on, it's a big vibe right there. Yeah. Venture

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of like a special place because it's very

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<v Speaker 1>it's like anywhere you USA type vibe. It's just very small.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like the last small. It's like the small it's

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<v Speaker 1>the only like small town vibe you can catch in

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<v Speaker 1>like southern California. To me, that's like really like special

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<v Speaker 1>and it feels like it's own place. There's no place

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<v Speaker 1>like vent and when it's like twenty five minutes past

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<v Speaker 1>Calabasas or something, Yeah, exactly, it's here, like it's really here,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's not here. It's its own world, you know. Yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's ventur is a vibe man, Like I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like a lot of people who like, you know, ma homi.

0:13:27.400 --> 0:13:28.920
<v Speaker 1>Joey Boy would always tell people like, yo, man, you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta start telling people to like, you know, have weekend

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<v Speaker 1>trips to Ventura, like you know, a little staycations and

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<v Speaker 1>shit stay wait, who's this Joey Boy used to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Boy. He used to be on the radio out there. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Joey Boy, stop stop giving up the secrets. Brouh. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>don't wonder nobody going up there. We trying and keep

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<v Speaker 1>this ship to ourselves. I'm sorry, keV. You can come.

0:13:48.360 --> 0:13:51.600
<v Speaker 1>Only the Dallas Cowboys are allowed. Yeah, facts, Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I used to watch it. I used to watch the

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<v Speaker 1>cowboys over there all the time, like a practice and whatnot.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember one time I walked up to Terrell owsed to

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<v Speaker 1>get like an autographed ball, and he kind of just

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<v Speaker 1>like gave me like a wave instead. Now it's like wow,

0:14:04.720 --> 0:14:06.959
<v Speaker 1>fuck you too, Fuck you, bro? Did you get anyone

0:14:06.960 --> 0:14:10.719
<v Speaker 1>to sign that ball? I got Mike Vandage yet that

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<v Speaker 1>sounds familiar, but I'm not sure exactly what he did.

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Vantage was a kicker for the Colts that ruined everything.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get back to the podcast. So you didn't grow

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<v Speaker 1>up so you're very optimistic kid. Okay, so you grew

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<v Speaker 1>up a RAMS fan, though I grew up a RAMS fan. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>which is interesting because most people in LA or in

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<v Speaker 1>this southern California region, obviously there are og Rams fans

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<v Speaker 1>because the Rams used to be in LA for a

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<v Speaker 1>period of time. Shout out Eric Dickerson. But yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>if you're one of them Rams fans, like you can't

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<v Speaker 1>you must have gray hair to claim yes, like straight yes,

0:16:56.440 --> 0:16:58.360
<v Speaker 1>or like a bunch of tattoos and like yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>like I know, ah, this guy's this guy's in there. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But then but but what, I've been to a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of Rams games this year, and I feel like I

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<v Speaker 1>call them Rams bros. Yeah, Rams bros. Yeah, because they're like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they've lived here for like six years, they're

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<v Speaker 1>in Santa Monica or Vantage. Yeah, they're like yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they kick it at Bungalow or whatever. That game there's

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<v Speaker 1>a football game, Bro, LA's got a team, fucking Rams,

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<v Speaker 1>let's go up. Yeah. There's a lot of those, for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>And then there's Yg who was a forty nine er fan. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot. And see this is the thing about

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<v Speaker 1>this thing about the forty nine er thing, right, It's

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<v Speaker 1>like there's a lot of especially people my age, like

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<v Speaker 1>what the fuck else were you supposed to root for

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<v Speaker 1>that entire time? No? For sure. Luckily enough, my family

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<v Speaker 1>is from Saint Louis, my mom, my dad. Like, when

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<v Speaker 1>I was a little kid, we were watching the Rams,

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<v Speaker 1>especially because when I was a little kid, they were

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<v Speaker 1>Lit Warner, Kurt Warren Turf, straight up Bro Marshall, Fall,

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<v Speaker 1>Isaac Bruce like that. We were killing it. So I

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<v Speaker 1>was watching all that shit. But all my homies were

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<v Speaker 1>all Niner fans or Cowboy fans, which is yeah, because

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<v Speaker 1>I can imagine in like in the eight oh five,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a lot of Cowboys fans because calla Cowboys fans

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<v Speaker 1>are Raiders fans. Cowboys fans are the most delusional fans

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<v Speaker 1>in all sports. Straight up. They don't they don't realize

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<v Speaker 1>how much they suck. They're crazy, they're creaty. I actually

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<v Speaker 1>am not even mad at the Cowboys. They're fans fucking suck. Yeah. No,

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<v Speaker 1>they're fans are trash. They're fans treated like they're on

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<v Speaker 1>a dynasty run right now, and it's like, no, y'all

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<v Speaker 1>are not. They're really not. So are you? Obviously you're

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<v Speaker 1>feeling good about the Super Bowl? Yeah, of course you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be there. Have you to spend thirty eight thousand

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<v Speaker 1>dollars on a ticket? Lock? No, because you know I

0:18:35.359 --> 0:18:37.880
<v Speaker 1>have season tickets for the Rams. Yeah. And I looked

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<v Speaker 1>up like my seat. I get my seats at like

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<v Speaker 1>face value, you know what I mean. And I looked

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<v Speaker 1>up my seat and that shit is thirty nine thousand

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<v Speaker 1>dollars a piece. Oh, I got two of them. And

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<v Speaker 1>I looked at my I was like, baby, we're not going.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry. You know, if you know some other dude

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<v Speaker 1>that got in like you might want to hit him

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<v Speaker 1>up because we're not going. Yeah. No, it's crazy because

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<v Speaker 1>even if I could, like, you know, obviously, if you

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<v Speaker 1>have season tickets, you're not getting super Bowl tickets. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm selling if I have fucking Rams tickets, I got

0:19:07.840 --> 0:19:10.919
<v Speaker 1>them a face value for some reason, I'm slinging them things. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well they don't give you that option, right, I would

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<v Speaker 1>have loved to sell my ship for thirty eight thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and not go. Of course, when you have season tickets,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have access to the super Bowl tickets. That's true. Yeah,

0:19:23.640 --> 0:19:26.120
<v Speaker 1>you see how cold that is. You don't get access

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<v Speaker 1>to the Superman Rams. I love y'all, but I have

0:19:29.960 --> 0:19:33.760
<v Speaker 1>a problem. Okay, it's backwards. Yeah, so talk about the

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<v Speaker 1>new album. Give me the meaning behind the title got You.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not so bad. Yeah, my new album was basically like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just a word of affirmation. It's not so bad.

0:19:44.240 --> 0:19:47.840
<v Speaker 1>It's like some I tell myself a lot, because in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of that pandemic, it was like, damn, life

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<v Speaker 1>really sucked, at least from I know for everybody, but

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<v Speaker 1>like from my own personal experience, like I was really

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<v Speaker 1>really hating, hating, life. I just dropped to see you

0:20:00.840 --> 0:20:03.040
<v Speaker 1>when I'm famous. It's like, in the middle of the pandemic,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't go tour, I can't go do shit for it, right,

0:20:05.880 --> 0:20:07.640
<v Speaker 1>It's like just a lot of whack things at once.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm truly an optimist, and I believe like at

0:20:12.560 --> 0:20:15.520
<v Speaker 1>any given moment, you can either see the world as

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<v Speaker 1>a fucked up place, so you can see it as

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<v Speaker 1>a beautiful thing if you pay attention to small things

0:20:20.600 --> 0:20:22.800
<v Speaker 1>in your life that are actually meaningful. And that's why

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<v Speaker 1>I was just telling myself, I'm like, dude, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>so bad. Like it's not so bad. There's a bunch

0:20:26.560 --> 0:20:29.480
<v Speaker 1>like I'm in this situation with this label that I

0:20:29.480 --> 0:20:32.879
<v Speaker 1>don't like, you know, Like it's like I can't promote

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<v Speaker 1>myself or do anything in the middle of the pandemic.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll know what to do. But I started focusing on

0:20:37.400 --> 0:20:40.800
<v Speaker 1>things that just genuinely brought me joy, and I started

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<v Speaker 1>realizing how much I don't need this situation with this label,

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<v Speaker 1>how much I don't need all this promotion and you know,

0:20:49.520 --> 0:20:52.320
<v Speaker 1>and this tours and these festivals and these things I

0:20:52.359 --> 0:20:55.520
<v Speaker 1>thought were completing my life so much. It's like, no,

0:20:55.640 --> 0:20:58.280
<v Speaker 1>I need to like make music and have fun, and

0:20:58.320 --> 0:21:02.840
<v Speaker 1>I need to remind people that all they need is joy, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And so that was that was a meaning behind the title.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just a word of affirmation that was helping me.

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<v Speaker 1>And then with that, when I started making an album,

0:21:12.720 --> 0:21:16.119
<v Speaker 1>it was like this low fi album and like it

0:21:16.200 --> 0:21:18.840
<v Speaker 1>was sad shit. It was like beats to study too.

0:21:18.880 --> 0:21:21.119
<v Speaker 1>I was for real interest music. I just throw that

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<v Speaker 1>shit on. There's like like one where like Homer's yeah

0:21:24.080 --> 0:21:26.960
<v Speaker 1>yeah yeah, so but I'm in there were like top

0:21:27.000 --> 0:21:29.520
<v Speaker 1>tier producers like playing like low fi beats, like yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>were about to do this shit. They has like two

0:21:31.320 --> 0:21:33.000
<v Speaker 1>sounds in it. They're looking at me like no, we're not,

0:21:33.240 --> 0:21:35.919
<v Speaker 1>you know, but I was really I was really like

0:21:36.160 --> 0:21:38.800
<v Speaker 1>on that. And then I realized, like, bro, that's not

0:21:38.880 --> 0:21:41.919
<v Speaker 1>the superhero version of yourself that you claim to be,

0:21:42.280 --> 0:21:44.919
<v Speaker 1>you know, like you claim to be somebody who's going

0:21:45.000 --> 0:21:47.080
<v Speaker 1>to help somebody forget about their worries and about their

0:21:47.160 --> 0:21:49.440
<v Speaker 1>shit and like, look on the brighter side. So don't

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<v Speaker 1>you dare drop this sad ass album in the middle

0:21:51.680 --> 0:21:54.000
<v Speaker 1>of all this sad ass shit, bro. And so I

0:21:54.040 --> 0:21:57.359
<v Speaker 1>went up. I left La. I went to Miami because

0:21:57.480 --> 0:21:59.879
<v Speaker 1>La just was like so sad at the time. We

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<v Speaker 1>really took COVID. Not that we took it serious, because

0:22:02.560 --> 0:22:04.119
<v Speaker 1>we should all take it serious, but we kind of

0:22:04.119 --> 0:22:06.600
<v Speaker 1>took it overboard, yeah a little bit, you know, a

0:22:06.640 --> 0:22:08.680
<v Speaker 1>little bit. We took it a little overboard, and Miami

0:22:08.800 --> 0:22:12.480
<v Speaker 1>was kind of doing a complete opposite. I went to Miami.

0:22:12.520 --> 0:22:14.560
<v Speaker 1>I was like, this is amazing. Yeah, me too. I

0:22:14.640 --> 0:22:17.560
<v Speaker 1>was like that, I feel like life is normal again.

0:22:18.200 --> 0:22:20.760
<v Speaker 1>Straight up. Life was normal out there, and it just

0:22:20.880 --> 0:22:22.520
<v Speaker 1>was like kind of like an escape for me. And

0:22:22.560 --> 0:22:25.760
<v Speaker 1>I went out there and I made as much turned

0:22:25.840 --> 0:22:28.919
<v Speaker 1>happy music as I could, and I did it in

0:22:28.960 --> 0:22:31.720
<v Speaker 1>an environment where I had fifteen people in the studio,

0:22:31.760 --> 0:22:34.359
<v Speaker 1>which I never do, right, And that's why when I

0:22:34.400 --> 0:22:36.720
<v Speaker 1>hear this album, I'll go out to the club or

0:22:36.760 --> 0:22:39.320
<v Speaker 1>something like that, which I never fucking do anyways. But

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<v Speaker 1>then I'll go out there and I'll hear it played

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<v Speaker 1>with all this other exciting music and it fits right

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<v Speaker 1>in for the first time, you know, because a lot

0:22:46.359 --> 0:22:48.439
<v Speaker 1>of my music is always so personal and so just

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<v Speaker 1>me by my side studio. This shit is vibing because

0:22:52.160 --> 0:22:54.560
<v Speaker 1>I did it with like fifteen people in the studio, Like, Hey,

0:22:54.560 --> 0:22:56.679
<v Speaker 1>what's up? Y'all. I'm Kyle. I don't know none of y'all,

0:22:56.840 --> 0:22:58.600
<v Speaker 1>but I need to have a really good time right

0:22:58.600 --> 0:23:02.480
<v Speaker 1>now because like it sucks back home. Let's make an album.

0:23:02.640 --> 0:23:05.199
<v Speaker 1>And that's sort of how we did it, you know.

0:23:05.320 --> 0:23:07.440
<v Speaker 1>That's how I've been in the studio with Game a

0:23:07.480 --> 0:23:11.359
<v Speaker 1>few times last month, and there's a lot of fucking

0:23:11.359 --> 0:23:14.960
<v Speaker 1>people in there, man, rappers be operating. No, No, I've

0:23:14.960 --> 0:23:16.879
<v Speaker 1>been to a lot of sessions over the years. I

0:23:16.920 --> 0:23:20.840
<v Speaker 1>mean maybe thousands, not a thousand, maybe a thousand, maybe

0:23:20.840 --> 0:23:23.439
<v Speaker 1>like five hundred. But if you've been to thousands of sessions,

0:23:23.880 --> 0:23:25.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, were like I have a couple

0:23:26.000 --> 0:23:29.480
<v Speaker 1>of artists I work for a week, but like the

0:23:29.560 --> 0:23:33.760
<v Speaker 1>Game had like a legitimate, like fifty sixty people in

0:23:33.760 --> 0:23:36.400
<v Speaker 1>the studio, and I wanted to guess I was gonna

0:23:36.400 --> 0:23:38.399
<v Speaker 1>be like it was a lot bro Yeah, and like

0:23:38.680 --> 0:23:41.040
<v Speaker 1>maybe like five of them were actually contributing to like

0:23:41.080 --> 0:23:46.080
<v Speaker 1>the music. Yeah, people hitting houka, fucking drinking. Like I'm like,

0:23:46.119 --> 0:23:48.880
<v Speaker 1>this ship is fucking crazy. It's like playoffs in here. Yeah,

0:23:49.080 --> 0:23:51.520
<v Speaker 1>the fuck is going to see there's a path look

0:23:51.640 --> 0:23:54.040
<v Speaker 1>for me. Like I always thought that that shit was weird,

0:23:54.040 --> 0:23:56.000
<v Speaker 1>but I thought it I think it adds, like for him,

0:23:56.040 --> 0:23:58.040
<v Speaker 1>like wherever he is creatively right now, Like that's like

0:23:58.359 --> 0:24:02.040
<v Speaker 1>that now it is juice. It helps because like yeah,

0:24:02.040 --> 0:24:03.400
<v Speaker 1>like for me, like I always thought that she was weird.

0:24:03.400 --> 0:24:05.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, how the fuck can y'all focus about like

0:24:05.080 --> 0:24:06.919
<v Speaker 1>telling like this really personal story in front of all

0:24:06.920 --> 0:24:09.760
<v Speaker 1>these people? And that's the key though, Like when you

0:24:09.840 --> 0:24:13.200
<v Speaker 1>have other people in there and music is loud on

0:24:13.640 --> 0:24:17.960
<v Speaker 1>two big ass speakers, everything you're doing is impacting their mood.

0:24:18.480 --> 0:24:20.359
<v Speaker 1>So if you turn around and you see these sixty

0:24:20.400 --> 0:24:25.159
<v Speaker 1>people all just fucking chilling on their phone, like you know,

0:24:25.240 --> 0:24:28.000
<v Speaker 1>if their vibe is fucked up, that's because the music

0:24:28.000 --> 0:24:31.080
<v Speaker 1>you're making is not geared for entertaining large amounts of

0:24:31.119 --> 0:24:34.800
<v Speaker 1>people at once, you know. So it's like a cheat

0:24:34.840 --> 0:24:37.240
<v Speaker 1>code kind of in a way, Like you need to

0:24:37.240 --> 0:24:39.800
<v Speaker 1>have other people in there and you captivate their vibe.

0:24:39.840 --> 0:24:44.120
<v Speaker 1>Like my fiance she's a DJ, right, and the homie

0:24:44.119 --> 0:24:46.720
<v Speaker 1>that an r this project, just Demmy, is a DJ,

0:24:47.600 --> 0:24:49.800
<v Speaker 1>and so I have them set up in the lobby

0:24:50.280 --> 0:24:54.920
<v Speaker 1>right with two big ass speakers and mixers. Now y'all

0:24:54.920 --> 0:24:57.439
<v Speaker 1>are going DJ in the lobby, And so when people

0:24:57.520 --> 0:25:01.000
<v Speaker 1>walk in to the studio. Yes, wow, people, Keaton is

0:25:01.040 --> 0:25:04.760
<v Speaker 1>making them a drink. Right, every sixty minutes, everybody in

0:25:04.760 --> 0:25:07.000
<v Speaker 1>the studio needs to take a shot. This is a rule.

0:25:07.560 --> 0:25:10.159
<v Speaker 1>If you're not taking this shot, you're leaving, you know

0:25:10.200 --> 0:25:12.360
<v Speaker 1>what I mean, unless for whatever reason you don't drink.

0:25:12.359 --> 0:25:15.439
<v Speaker 1>It's party religion something like that. But they're gonna take

0:25:15.480 --> 0:25:19.480
<v Speaker 1>the shot because we're making party music. We're making music

0:25:19.520 --> 0:25:23.720
<v Speaker 1>to help people forget about their problems. So if you

0:25:23.720 --> 0:25:25.800
<v Speaker 1>don't want to be in here where the studio is at,

0:25:25.800 --> 0:25:28.040
<v Speaker 1>well we're making in the lobby. There's loud ass music

0:25:28.080 --> 0:25:30.520
<v Speaker 1>and you're taking a shot out there too, So everybody

0:25:30.760 --> 0:25:34.280
<v Speaker 1>is entering this sort of zone of like this is

0:25:34.320 --> 0:25:38.280
<v Speaker 1>a party, you know. Side note, I wish it was

0:25:38.359 --> 0:25:40.200
<v Speaker 1>kind of the SoundCloud days because you could just throw

0:25:40.240 --> 0:25:43.520
<v Speaker 1>the lo Fi album out just to just just to see,

0:25:43.720 --> 0:25:46.480
<v Speaker 1>just like yo, let's I mean, the LOFA album is there.

0:25:46.520 --> 0:25:49.919
<v Speaker 1>I could put it out like I right, I can

0:25:49.960 --> 0:25:52.320
<v Speaker 1>literally do me a hardcore like fans are gonna be

0:25:52.359 --> 0:25:53.560
<v Speaker 1>in the comments like, yo, we want to hear the

0:25:53.560 --> 0:25:55.840
<v Speaker 1>fucking Lofi album. Man, I'm be like, I'll give it

0:25:55.840 --> 0:26:00.159
<v Speaker 1>to y'all. It's sad, yes, but you know, do you

0:26:00.160 --> 0:26:01.840
<v Speaker 1>feel like now that like, you know, because when you

0:26:01.840 --> 0:26:06.320
<v Speaker 1>were independent, the industry was way different, right, Like it'd

0:26:06.359 --> 0:26:08.000
<v Speaker 1>be fair to say that you built a lot of

0:26:08.040 --> 0:26:11.479
<v Speaker 1>your following on YouTube, right straight up? Yeah, yeah, but

0:26:11.520 --> 0:26:14.239
<v Speaker 1>like just in general, you know, back then it was

0:26:14.440 --> 0:26:19.160
<v Speaker 1>you could still purchase stuff on iTunes. They're streaming wasn't

0:26:19.200 --> 0:26:23.639
<v Speaker 1>as big in what that was like what twenty thirteen twelve?

0:26:25.080 --> 0:26:28.200
<v Speaker 1>Being independent now that the industry has changed so much,

0:26:28.359 --> 0:26:30.560
<v Speaker 1>is like are you having to still kind of I mean,

0:26:30.680 --> 0:26:32.520
<v Speaker 1>you know the music industry. You have very smart people

0:26:32.560 --> 0:26:34.720
<v Speaker 1>around you, but like, what are the things that you're

0:26:34.760 --> 0:26:39.280
<v Speaker 1>practicing now to try to kind of repeat the success

0:26:39.320 --> 0:26:41.440
<v Speaker 1>that you had, you know back then. That's a really

0:26:41.480 --> 0:26:45.480
<v Speaker 1>good question. I think the industry has changed big time.

0:26:45.520 --> 0:26:47.159
<v Speaker 1>I think back in the day, it was about like

0:26:47.280 --> 0:26:50.600
<v Speaker 1>brand personality on YouTube, right because the YouTube is a

0:26:50.720 --> 0:26:53.880
<v Speaker 1>video of this guy. Do we think this guy is cool?

0:26:54.160 --> 0:26:56.600
<v Speaker 1>What's his story, what's he look like, what's he from?

0:26:56.960 --> 0:26:59.199
<v Speaker 1>You know, like you capture all these things and everybody

0:26:59.200 --> 0:27:02.120
<v Speaker 1>so heavily on YouTube, and now in the streaming era,

0:27:02.359 --> 0:27:05.560
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of more like, all right, does this sound

0:27:05.640 --> 0:27:08.840
<v Speaker 1>out of these fifty thousand songs? I listen to does

0:27:08.880 --> 0:27:10.920
<v Speaker 1>it capture me? And so I think the name of

0:27:10.960 --> 0:27:15.600
<v Speaker 1>the game now is really focusing on your micro fan base,

0:27:16.040 --> 0:27:19.600
<v Speaker 1>right you them? Yeah, your fan base is this? My

0:27:19.640 --> 0:27:22.119
<v Speaker 1>fan base is this, Like I'm a very famous person,

0:27:22.160 --> 0:27:24.480
<v Speaker 1>Like I walk your monthly listeners are fucking huge on

0:27:24.560 --> 0:27:26.680
<v Speaker 1>spot when I walk down the street, Like people are

0:27:26.680 --> 0:27:29.240
<v Speaker 1>going to recognize me type shit. Now, dually, you're also

0:27:29.400 --> 0:27:30.960
<v Speaker 1>very unique. People are like, oh, it's the guy with

0:27:31.000 --> 0:27:35.000
<v Speaker 1>the great hair. That is what I'm talking about. Ya,

0:27:35.240 --> 0:27:38.600
<v Speaker 1>So it's here and then, But I can't focus on

0:27:38.640 --> 0:27:42.080
<v Speaker 1>this in today's world, right, I have to focus on this,

0:27:42.080 --> 0:27:45.399
<v Speaker 1>this smaller amount of people that are really into everything

0:27:45.440 --> 0:27:48.520
<v Speaker 1>I do. I engaged, engaged, I need to super serve them.

0:27:48.600 --> 0:27:52.040
<v Speaker 1>They're buying merch there, they're buying everything, They're keeping things afloat.

0:27:52.119 --> 0:27:54.399
<v Speaker 1>I need to super serve them. And as I'm super

0:27:54.400 --> 0:27:57.720
<v Speaker 1>serving them, something will raise its hand and then appeal

0:27:57.760 --> 0:27:59.320
<v Speaker 1>to all these people. That's how you do it. And

0:27:59.359 --> 0:28:03.600
<v Speaker 1>that's kind of what I notice in today's independent game

0:28:04.160 --> 0:28:06.480
<v Speaker 1>because the music is easy to make. The music don't

0:28:06.480 --> 0:28:09.879
<v Speaker 1>cost nothing to make, you know, So it's about dropping

0:28:09.920 --> 0:28:13.080
<v Speaker 1>as much quality product as you can to these people

0:28:13.119 --> 0:28:15.520
<v Speaker 1>who fuck with you and then kind of the something

0:28:15.880 --> 0:28:18.520
<v Speaker 1>breaks out of that awesome then you're on. Yeah, but

0:28:18.800 --> 0:28:20.640
<v Speaker 1>those people are gonna be keep your lights on. They're

0:28:20.640 --> 0:28:24.159
<v Speaker 1>gonna exact bills. I would tell every artist that, I'm like, yo,

0:28:24.200 --> 0:28:27.480
<v Speaker 1>if you've got a core fucking fan base, like feed

0:28:27.520 --> 0:28:30.959
<v Speaker 1>them what they want and then something's gonna break through. Exactly.

0:28:31.000 --> 0:28:33.600
<v Speaker 1>You're independent, like it only makes sense. Like you know,

0:28:33.600 --> 0:28:34.800
<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day, the name of the

0:28:34.840 --> 0:28:38.800
<v Speaker 1>game is to support yourself off of music, straight up,

0:28:38.880 --> 0:28:41.320
<v Speaker 1>support yourself off of songs. And in the streaming world,

0:28:41.400 --> 0:28:43.200
<v Speaker 1>that's what you do. You upload the song and he

0:28:43.200 --> 0:28:46.400
<v Speaker 1>immediately starts paying you. In the YouTube world where I

0:28:46.440 --> 0:28:49.960
<v Speaker 1>came from, it's like, no, you build as big of

0:28:50.000 --> 0:28:51.680
<v Speaker 1>a brand as you can and you go on tour

0:28:51.720 --> 0:28:54.280
<v Speaker 1>and that's what pays you. Music didn't pay nobody, right,

0:28:54.440 --> 0:28:56.920
<v Speaker 1>you know. So now it's like, and these people love you,

0:28:57.480 --> 0:29:00.480
<v Speaker 1>they'll listen to everything, so give them is much as

0:29:00.520 --> 0:29:03.800
<v Speaker 1>possible in tapping with them, like I'm on Patreon, I'm

0:29:03.840 --> 0:29:06.400
<v Speaker 1>on Twitch, I'm on Patreon, Discord, I'm on all that

0:29:06.440 --> 0:29:09.760
<v Speaker 1>shit because these people, me and them, we are friends.

0:29:09.800 --> 0:29:11.960
<v Speaker 1>I haven't heard of many artists on Patreon, so kind

0:29:11.960 --> 0:29:15.040
<v Speaker 1>of because obviously in the podcast space, it's a lot

0:29:15.040 --> 0:29:18.120
<v Speaker 1>of podcasts creators that go on Patreon. It's kind of

0:29:18.160 --> 0:29:22.520
<v Speaker 1>like only fans, but without Pussy and Titch exactly. Yeah,

0:29:22.560 --> 0:29:25.400
<v Speaker 1>it's only fans with I would be a hyper sexualized yr.

0:29:25.720 --> 0:29:27.760
<v Speaker 1>So like if you you know, like if you have

0:29:27.880 --> 0:29:30.840
<v Speaker 1>a Doupe podcast, you might some people will have be

0:29:30.880 --> 0:29:33.760
<v Speaker 1>on Patreon and they might do a bonus episode. Yeah,

0:29:33.920 --> 0:29:36.200
<v Speaker 1>they might have, Like you might get the episode before

0:29:36.240 --> 0:29:38.680
<v Speaker 1>everyone else, type, shit, how do you use it? So

0:29:38.760 --> 0:29:41.160
<v Speaker 1>what I do is I just give them the music first.

0:29:41.840 --> 0:29:43.840
<v Speaker 1>If I have a song that's coming out next month,

0:29:44.120 --> 0:29:48.480
<v Speaker 1>they have it right now, you know, like not for nothing.

0:29:48.520 --> 0:29:50.760
<v Speaker 1>And I know this is gonna piss people off. They

0:29:50.800 --> 0:29:53.520
<v Speaker 1>had the album like a day and a half in advance,

0:29:53.600 --> 0:29:56.520
<v Speaker 1>the whole thing, every song, mastered, the whole shit, and

0:29:56.560 --> 0:29:58.360
<v Speaker 1>I gave it to them first. I'm not getting none

0:29:58.400 --> 0:30:01.080
<v Speaker 1>of them plays recorded. I'm not none of that. You know,

0:30:01.160 --> 0:30:04.640
<v Speaker 1>those streams aren't counting for anything except for their excitement

0:30:05.000 --> 0:30:07.360
<v Speaker 1>and their enjoyment. So I try to give them as

0:30:07.440 --> 0:30:10.880
<v Speaker 1>much as possible first. And you're monetizing that probably at

0:30:10.880 --> 0:30:15.240
<v Speaker 1>a better rate. There, you're monetizing streams damn yeah straight up. Yeah, fact,

0:30:15.360 --> 0:30:17.440
<v Speaker 1>like yeah, fuck the streams, like these people are paying

0:30:17.440 --> 0:30:19.760
<v Speaker 1>how much you charge a month? Five dollars a month? Yeah?

0:30:19.840 --> 0:30:21.880
<v Speaker 1>Is there different tiers or just one? There's different tiers,

0:30:22.040 --> 0:30:24.200
<v Speaker 1>So what's the highest tier? I believe the highest tier

0:30:24.360 --> 0:30:28.600
<v Speaker 1>is fifteen dollars I think, And it just comes with

0:30:28.720 --> 0:30:30.880
<v Speaker 1>higher levels of access, you know, more shit I can

0:30:30.920 --> 0:30:33.080
<v Speaker 1>give you before I can give it to anybody else.

0:30:33.480 --> 0:30:36.200
<v Speaker 1>That's big. Get enough people doing that, there's you know,

0:30:36.360 --> 0:30:38.240
<v Speaker 1>you get enough people doing that, and once again, you

0:30:38.280 --> 0:30:40.720
<v Speaker 1>don't have to worry about taking no advance from nobody,

0:30:41.240 --> 0:30:44.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, being in some shitty loan situation. And really

0:30:45.080 --> 0:30:47.680
<v Speaker 1>really what it was for me too is realizing, oh,

0:30:47.760 --> 0:30:52.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm massively successful in music, right, Like I Spibe is

0:30:52.440 --> 0:30:56.400
<v Speaker 1>a billion something stream song, you know, maybe going towards

0:30:56.440 --> 0:30:59.080
<v Speaker 1>two or some shit like that. You know, playing with

0:30:59.200 --> 0:31:02.000
<v Speaker 1>me as like was five hundred million streams, Like Hey

0:31:02.080 --> 0:31:06.400
<v Speaker 1>Julie is another Golder platinum record. Like there's massive success.

0:31:07.080 --> 0:31:10.400
<v Speaker 1>But in order for me to be truly like rich

0:31:10.440 --> 0:31:14.120
<v Speaker 1>as fuck, I need to be doing all that shit

0:31:14.120 --> 0:31:17.200
<v Speaker 1>independently by myself. You know, it's real. That's how you

0:31:17.240 --> 0:31:20.280
<v Speaker 1>actually reach like masterpiece status or somebody like that who's

0:31:20.640 --> 0:31:22.720
<v Speaker 1>genuinely wealthy off their music. You need to just do

0:31:22.760 --> 0:31:26.080
<v Speaker 1>it yourself. And in today's world, I have these people

0:31:26.080 --> 0:31:29.000
<v Speaker 1>who are supporting me, who love me, my homies right this,

0:31:29.120 --> 0:31:31.720
<v Speaker 1>my family, who're gonna keep things afloat no matter what,

0:31:31.760 --> 0:31:34.920
<v Speaker 1>whether I'm up down sideways. And then I have all

0:31:34.960 --> 0:31:36.840
<v Speaker 1>this endless amount of music that I can release what

0:31:36.880 --> 0:31:38.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm having to go through, all this yellow tape. I

0:31:38.800 --> 0:31:41.320
<v Speaker 1>can just drop record after record after record, and when

0:31:41.320 --> 0:31:45.520
<v Speaker 1>something waves its hand to the masses, cool and all

0:31:45.560 --> 0:31:49.360
<v Speaker 1>of the money exactly exactly. And all I gotta do

0:31:49.400 --> 0:31:51.920
<v Speaker 1>is make tiktoks honestly, because I can imagine, like, okay,

0:31:51.960 --> 0:31:54.720
<v Speaker 1>so hey, we got to stuff the podcast man real quick.

0:31:54.760 --> 0:31:59.320
<v Speaker 1>Appreciate y'all for watching, really mean it. Subscribe, like leave

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0:32:01.480 --> 0:32:04.040
<v Speaker 1>the column. You're always interrupting the guests because it's my

0:32:04.080 --> 0:32:06.600
<v Speaker 1>fucking podcast, and I don't know i'd like to talk

0:32:06.680 --> 0:32:12.720
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<v Speaker 1>same kinds of ways. You know what I'm saying, because

0:32:24.080 --> 0:32:29.560
<v Speaker 1>sometimes I go hard in odd socks. They do make boxers,

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<v Speaker 1>you feel me? Anyway, Listen, they got the ill licenses,

0:32:34.640 --> 0:32:37.200
<v Speaker 1>they got the Breaking Bad, they got the WWE, they

0:32:37.240 --> 0:32:40.560
<v Speaker 1>got Mountain Dew, they got fucking Swedish fish, fucking kool

0:32:40.600 --> 0:32:47.200
<v Speaker 1>aid pez you know, Cheech and Chong. What are you

0:32:47.280 --> 0:32:49.880
<v Speaker 1>into the odd socks? Basics are the boys though? That's

0:32:49.880 --> 0:32:51.960
<v Speaker 1>my favorite. You know, you get yourself a nice pair

0:32:51.960 --> 0:32:55.840
<v Speaker 1>of just basics. They're comfy. It's like walking on clouds,

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0:33:10.720 --> 0:33:13.520
<v Speaker 1>love and let's get back to the interview. Atlantic Records

0:33:13.520 --> 0:33:15.000
<v Speaker 1>like we just saw. I mean, there's been a lot

0:33:15.040 --> 0:33:18.240
<v Speaker 1>of people just not even Atlantic, but just specifically, like

0:33:18.400 --> 0:33:21.960
<v Speaker 1>the major label game is, like there's a reason why

0:33:22.040 --> 0:33:24.840
<v Speaker 1>companies like Empire are thriving. And you know some of

0:33:24.880 --> 0:33:27.960
<v Speaker 1>these distro companies that offer label services because they're giving

0:33:28.000 --> 0:33:31.320
<v Speaker 1>you like a serious, like, shit, you got more of

0:33:31.360 --> 0:33:33.560
<v Speaker 1>the chunk of the pie than anyone then them, and

0:33:33.360 --> 0:33:36.760
<v Speaker 1>that's how it should be. That's and I would say too, sorry,

0:33:36.920 --> 0:33:38.800
<v Speaker 1>I'll get your finish go ahead. I would say too,

0:33:39.240 --> 0:33:43.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm not anti like company, you know what I mean.

0:33:43.440 --> 0:33:49.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm anti royalty shares and master ownings being so in

0:33:49.320 --> 0:33:52.360
<v Speaker 1>favor of this company for you to essentially still do

0:33:52.400 --> 0:33:54.840
<v Speaker 1>all the work. Yeah, because there's people who like, you know,

0:33:54.920 --> 0:33:56.960
<v Speaker 1>if you do a major label deal and they give

0:33:56.960 --> 0:33:59.720
<v Speaker 1>you thirteen percent of your album, that's like amazing, that's

0:33:59.720 --> 0:34:01.800
<v Speaker 1>like whoa. People are like, oh, you're killing it. But

0:34:02.320 --> 0:34:04.920
<v Speaker 1>that's like not even a norm. Like some people like

0:34:05.920 --> 0:34:08.040
<v Speaker 1>they'd be lucky to get eight points on their own shit,

0:34:08.160 --> 0:34:10.719
<v Speaker 1>which is crazy. If you get smacked like that, I would.

0:34:11.120 --> 0:34:12.960
<v Speaker 1>You're now you're pulling up to the office ready to

0:34:13.239 --> 0:34:15.080
<v Speaker 1>It's like what do we do well? You know, like

0:34:15.480 --> 0:34:17.920
<v Speaker 1>yg just talked about it on the Bronze Shit, he

0:34:18.000 --> 0:34:20.040
<v Speaker 1>was on the Bronze HBO show and he was saying

0:34:20.040 --> 0:34:23.000
<v Speaker 1>how he's never made he's never got a check off

0:34:23.000 --> 0:34:26.520
<v Speaker 1>his royalty yet, Like his whole career is crazy. It's

0:34:26.520 --> 0:34:31.360
<v Speaker 1>just advance, advance, advance man, And that's cap because that

0:34:31.440 --> 0:34:34.480
<v Speaker 1>shit is crazy, bro, because when I think about somebody

0:34:34.520 --> 0:34:38.040
<v Speaker 1>like YG, like me being from southern California has been

0:34:38.040 --> 0:34:41.439
<v Speaker 1>a literal staple in my like young adult life since

0:34:41.480 --> 0:34:43.800
<v Speaker 1>I was like fifteen, for sure, right since I was

0:34:43.840 --> 0:34:46.719
<v Speaker 1>a child, like we wanted to dress like YG, listen

0:34:46.800 --> 0:34:49.480
<v Speaker 1>to YG, b like YG. For somebody to be that

0:34:49.560 --> 0:34:53.400
<v Speaker 1>successful for so long and still never gotten a royalty thing, like,

0:34:53.960 --> 0:34:56.560
<v Speaker 1>it's fucking so ridiculous because as rich as he is,

0:34:57.320 --> 0:35:00.319
<v Speaker 1>he's had to have made them ten times. It's just

0:35:00.320 --> 0:35:03.680
<v Speaker 1>that it's that advanced thing, right, It's like, Okay, if

0:35:03.719 --> 0:35:05.720
<v Speaker 1>I turn in an album, I get, you know, whatever

0:35:05.840 --> 0:35:08.520
<v Speaker 1>you worked out individually, you know. So it's like some people,

0:35:08.600 --> 0:35:11.720
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I think. I think like the industry

0:35:11.719 --> 0:35:13.920
<v Speaker 1>is starting to smarten up. Artists are starting to realize,

0:35:13.960 --> 0:35:16.840
<v Speaker 1>like I know some people who will just pass on

0:35:16.840 --> 0:35:19.000
<v Speaker 1>the advance and be like, no, I'm good, like you know,

0:35:19.160 --> 0:35:22.560
<v Speaker 1>do the service. Yeah yeah, no, it's crazy. So that's dope.

0:35:22.560 --> 0:35:24.800
<v Speaker 1>So are you just doing straight tune core, straight distro

0:35:24.960 --> 0:35:29.480
<v Speaker 1>kid or not? So we're doing so I'm like still uploading, yeah,

0:35:29.560 --> 0:35:32.239
<v Speaker 1>uploading things through like distro Kid and stuff like that.

0:35:32.320 --> 0:35:36.000
<v Speaker 1>But still I'm working with a company that's really just

0:35:36.040 --> 0:35:39.799
<v Speaker 1>my managers and it's independent and they're they're my managers. Yeah,

0:35:39.800 --> 0:35:44.279
<v Speaker 1>and they're pitching to Spotify and pitching to playlists and

0:35:44.280 --> 0:35:46.040
<v Speaker 1>shit like that, and that's all we're doing. That's dope.

0:35:46.080 --> 0:35:49.279
<v Speaker 1>That And then all the same services that like a

0:35:49.360 --> 0:35:53.719
<v Speaker 1>major company was doing or hiring out. I'm just going

0:35:53.719 --> 0:35:56.759
<v Speaker 1>to those people because you solo and hiring them myself. Right,

0:35:57.000 --> 0:35:59.919
<v Speaker 1>I'm hiring the press team, hiring the digital marketing team,

0:35:59.920 --> 0:36:03.160
<v Speaker 1>like there's still a team around, but there's no reason

0:36:03.160 --> 0:36:06.240
<v Speaker 1>why you can't pay for it for yourself. Also, hello,

0:36:06.480 --> 0:36:08.520
<v Speaker 1>not even a major label can guarantee a spot on

0:36:08.520 --> 0:36:10.600
<v Speaker 1>a fucking playlist. All they can do is fucking pitch

0:36:10.640 --> 0:36:13.000
<v Speaker 1>it as well. Now they might these people might listen

0:36:13.040 --> 0:36:15.120
<v Speaker 1>a little bit, you know, well, they listen way stronger.

0:36:15.120 --> 0:36:17.360
<v Speaker 1>I'll say that I'll do with even me putting this

0:36:17.400 --> 0:36:20.680
<v Speaker 1>album out, I'm like, oh, y'all are listening way stronger

0:36:20.719 --> 0:36:24.239
<v Speaker 1>to that. Like, like I said, I think all companies,

0:36:24.320 --> 0:36:26.640
<v Speaker 1>I think that they're awesome. I just think that what

0:36:26.719 --> 0:36:28.680
<v Speaker 1>they do is awesome. I just think that the business

0:36:28.760 --> 0:36:30.920
<v Speaker 1>needs to be way more in favor of the artists

0:36:30.920 --> 0:36:33.440
<v Speaker 1>because so much of the job is way more on

0:36:33.520 --> 0:36:36.279
<v Speaker 1>the shoulder of the artist. All I gotta go on

0:36:36.360 --> 0:36:38.680
<v Speaker 1>Instagram and make the ship. You gotta be fucking on TikTok.

0:36:38.800 --> 0:36:40.879
<v Speaker 1>You gotta be you gotta do everything, and then they're

0:36:40.920 --> 0:36:43.799
<v Speaker 1>just gonna come through with a canister gasoline. And then

0:36:43.840 --> 0:36:45.640
<v Speaker 1>once you have the fire, Once you have the fire,

0:36:46.040 --> 0:36:48.120
<v Speaker 1>you got to start to fire yourself, exactly. So when

0:36:48.120 --> 0:36:49.200
<v Speaker 1>I was just like, if I got to start to

0:36:49.200 --> 0:36:52.160
<v Speaker 1>fire myself, my gym and needs some more this money, exactly,

0:36:52.520 --> 0:36:55.480
<v Speaker 1>And if I start to fire myself, I'll just go

0:36:55.560 --> 0:36:57.560
<v Speaker 1>fuck with somebody else and just be like, oh look

0:36:57.600 --> 0:36:59.560
<v Speaker 1>I got this fire, Now put some gasoline on it.

0:36:59.719 --> 0:37:02.600
<v Speaker 1>For this this is what I'm offering you a fraction

0:37:02.719 --> 0:37:04.759
<v Speaker 1>of the thing to put the gasoline on it. And

0:37:04.840 --> 0:37:06.799
<v Speaker 1>that's make it make sense. But you got to get

0:37:06.800 --> 0:37:09.120
<v Speaker 1>out of that first situation to even have the power

0:37:09.120 --> 0:37:11.840
<v Speaker 1>to do that. You know, I'm really not anti company,

0:37:11.840 --> 0:37:15.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm anti the business of how much they're taking on

0:37:15.200 --> 0:37:17.120
<v Speaker 1>it Was it easy for you to break away? Like

0:37:17.120 --> 0:37:19.520
<v Speaker 1>did you just fulfill your contractual obligations or did you

0:37:19.560 --> 0:37:22.000
<v Speaker 1>ask to leave? I asked to leave, and it's and

0:37:22.800 --> 0:37:25.400
<v Speaker 1>it's and it was it was easy to break away because,

0:37:25.560 --> 0:37:29.200
<v Speaker 1>like I said, the people there like like we have

0:37:29.280 --> 0:37:31.920
<v Speaker 1>a good relationship, Like I love them, they love me.

0:37:32.080 --> 0:37:33.960
<v Speaker 1>And it was always easy to work. It was never

0:37:34.040 --> 0:37:36.520
<v Speaker 1>like static, Like I never had like let me a

0:37:36.600 --> 0:37:39.520
<v Speaker 1>fuck the label moment. I never did that because they're people.

0:37:39.640 --> 0:37:42.279
<v Speaker 1>They're people doing their jobs. You know, that's it. They're

0:37:42.320 --> 0:37:45.239
<v Speaker 1>really just people doing their jobs. Just the business of

0:37:45.280 --> 0:37:47.839
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't right. So I'm like, yo, you know. And

0:37:47.880 --> 0:37:50.520
<v Speaker 1>by the way, my song was so massive that my

0:37:50.680 --> 0:37:55.480
<v Speaker 1>fucking advance checks are crazy. So do y'all really want

0:37:55.520 --> 0:37:57.480
<v Speaker 1>to do? You want me to turn another album? And

0:37:57.560 --> 0:37:58.799
<v Speaker 1>you want me to turn me another album and you

0:37:58.840 --> 0:38:00.160
<v Speaker 1>come me to this bat ass check? What do you

0:38:00.200 --> 0:38:02.399
<v Speaker 1>want to do? You know what I mean? Because and

0:38:02.520 --> 0:38:05.280
<v Speaker 1>I was also kind of like making low five music

0:38:05.320 --> 0:38:08.120
<v Speaker 1>at the time, probably like look y'all want this now

0:38:08.200 --> 0:38:11.359
<v Speaker 1>fire album or what? Yeah? Nah, we don't actually, And

0:38:11.360 --> 0:38:13.600
<v Speaker 1>it's cool because I kind of want to move on too,

0:38:13.680 --> 0:38:16.200
<v Speaker 1>So it's like it's love. You know. It was good.

0:38:16.200 --> 0:38:19.439
<v Speaker 1>It was It was actually really seemless, really easy. That's dope, man. Yeah,

0:38:19.440 --> 0:38:21.480
<v Speaker 1>Well the albums I've heard horror stories. Are you doing

0:38:21.480 --> 0:38:24.759
<v Speaker 1>anything else that you could talk about coming up? Yeah, bro.

0:38:24.920 --> 0:38:27.719
<v Speaker 1>I mean, first of all, yeah, album is out. It's

0:38:27.800 --> 0:38:30.160
<v Speaker 1>the hottest album of the year. Okay, it's just listen.

0:38:30.200 --> 0:38:33.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean it is January, it's February. So far we

0:38:33.920 --> 0:38:37.840
<v Speaker 1>got the hottest album. And yeah, I'm going on tour

0:38:38.280 --> 0:38:42.040
<v Speaker 1>for this album and the tour starts in March. So

0:38:42.400 --> 0:38:44.560
<v Speaker 1>are you excited to get back on the road. Fuck, yeah,

0:38:44.600 --> 0:38:48.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm excited to. I'm excited to just see the people

0:38:48.440 --> 0:38:50.520
<v Speaker 1>when they went back to the music and I haven't

0:38:50.560 --> 0:38:52.879
<v Speaker 1>done that so long. And like, as you noted from

0:38:52.880 --> 0:38:54.600
<v Speaker 1>like twenty twelve, it is kind of when I started

0:38:54.640 --> 0:38:56.839
<v Speaker 1>my independent grind that whole time was just supported by

0:38:56.920 --> 0:39:01.440
<v Speaker 1>like ten people, thirty people, one hundred people, four hundred people,

0:39:01.719 --> 0:39:04.359
<v Speaker 1>a thousand people, five thousand people, forty thousand people out

0:39:04.400 --> 0:39:07.719
<v Speaker 1>of show who are connecting, like, and your live show

0:39:07.760 --> 0:39:09.759
<v Speaker 1>is dope as fuck, Like I think the first well,

0:39:09.880 --> 0:39:12.080
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I might have saw you a south By.

0:39:12.200 --> 0:39:14.160
<v Speaker 1>I think we first. I don't know when we first met.

0:39:14.400 --> 0:39:16.160
<v Speaker 1>It was like twenty twelve or twenty thirteen. I think

0:39:16.200 --> 0:39:19.239
<v Speaker 1>it was south By, But there was a when you

0:39:19.320 --> 0:39:22.279
<v Speaker 1>opened up for g on which tour was that that

0:39:22.400 --> 0:39:26.200
<v Speaker 1>was the uh you had like inflatables and the uh

0:39:28.040 --> 0:39:30.680
<v Speaker 1>these things happened to her and I had these big

0:39:30.680 --> 0:39:33.279
<v Speaker 1>ass palm tree and yes, yeah on the boogie board.

0:39:33.400 --> 0:39:36.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah you came out on the boogie board. Yeah yeah, yep, yep.

0:39:36.280 --> 0:39:39.680
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, it's just I mean, congrats. The tours March March.

0:39:39.960 --> 0:39:42.839
<v Speaker 1>How many dates? I think it's like thirty dates. Oh shit,

0:39:42.920 --> 0:39:45.359
<v Speaker 1>you're out here, bro, come on, man, man, it's in

0:39:45.440 --> 0:39:46.960
<v Speaker 1>a while because it's what been at least two and

0:39:47.000 --> 0:39:49.480
<v Speaker 1>a half three years on the road. Three Yeah, at

0:39:49.480 --> 0:39:51.319
<v Speaker 1>this point, it's been three and a half years since

0:39:51.360 --> 0:39:53.560
<v Speaker 1>I've been on the road, which is kind of like

0:39:54.239 --> 0:39:58.240
<v Speaker 1>a fucking time for text portal. You know, it's almost

0:39:58.280 --> 0:40:00.799
<v Speaker 1>like my career. I'm doing have like a career, I'm

0:40:00.800 --> 0:40:03.360
<v Speaker 1>doing my thing. It's like going, then COVID happens and

0:40:04.200 --> 0:40:07.120
<v Speaker 1>fast forward three it's like three years up and disappeared.

0:40:07.480 --> 0:40:09.840
<v Speaker 1>Do you know do you find it easier now? Because like,

0:40:09.880 --> 0:40:13.600
<v Speaker 1>you're someone who came up with a cult following. I

0:40:13.640 --> 0:40:17.120
<v Speaker 1>feel like sometimes when you have as much success as

0:40:17.120 --> 0:40:19.600
<v Speaker 1>you had with a record, it's easy to kind of

0:40:19.600 --> 0:40:22.960
<v Speaker 1>deviate away from like those people you were talking about. Yeah,

0:40:23.000 --> 0:40:25.400
<v Speaker 1>did you feel like I've seen it happen with a

0:40:25.400 --> 0:40:27.759
<v Speaker 1>lot of artists, right, Like I don't want say names,

0:40:27.760 --> 0:40:30.120
<v Speaker 1>but you know people who just had huge records, but

0:40:30.160 --> 0:40:32.040
<v Speaker 1>they kind of came up a certain way. Did you

0:40:32.200 --> 0:40:33.799
<v Speaker 1>feel like it was a little bit harder for you

0:40:33.840 --> 0:40:38.359
<v Speaker 1>to kind of super serve your like og hardcore fan. Yeah,

0:40:38.360 --> 0:40:40.120
<v Speaker 1>you know what It's like, this is a perfect analogy.

0:40:40.239 --> 0:40:42.799
<v Speaker 1>It's like, imagine you throw a party, right and you're

0:40:42.840 --> 0:40:44.680
<v Speaker 1>all there and it's a party and everybody loves it.

0:40:44.760 --> 0:40:47.200
<v Speaker 1>We have this, we have this Kyle super Duver Gang

0:40:47.239 --> 0:40:49.640
<v Speaker 1>party going on, and it just those people are there,

0:40:50.520 --> 0:40:54.280
<v Speaker 1>and then somebody leaks to address and then twenty thousand

0:40:54.360 --> 0:40:57.480
<v Speaker 1>motherfuckers show up and then you and now all these

0:40:57.480 --> 0:40:58.839
<v Speaker 1>people are in the party and you have to pour

0:40:58.960 --> 0:41:01.440
<v Speaker 1>all of them drinks, and like it seems like to

0:41:01.520 --> 0:41:05.040
<v Speaker 1>your core fan base, like, oh, maybe he doesn't care

0:41:05.120 --> 0:41:06.960
<v Speaker 1>about us as much, because when they come to the

0:41:07.040 --> 0:41:09.279
<v Speaker 1>Kyle concert now now the same way you said the

0:41:09.360 --> 0:41:12.080
<v Speaker 1>RAMS bros Are coming to the Rams game. When they're there,

0:41:12.200 --> 0:41:15.240
<v Speaker 1>now their shoulder to shoulder with the Kyle brothers fucking

0:41:15.239 --> 0:41:20.160
<v Speaker 1>going exactly. So I think that it's not that it

0:41:20.200 --> 0:41:22.600
<v Speaker 1>was hard to super serve them. I mean, well, it

0:41:22.640 --> 0:41:24.279
<v Speaker 1>was because there's yellow tape. I got to go through

0:41:24.280 --> 0:41:26.279
<v Speaker 1>with the records I'm releasing and all this shit. So

0:41:26.360 --> 0:41:29.359
<v Speaker 1>I think it was a little harder to connect with them,

0:41:30.160 --> 0:41:32.759
<v Speaker 1>just them. But that's what's so great about to play

0:41:32.800 --> 0:41:35.959
<v Speaker 1>something right now. I feel like I'm back to like, Hey,

0:41:36.000 --> 0:41:37.759
<v Speaker 1>what's up y'all? Oh my god, that was a blur

0:41:37.840 --> 0:41:40.640
<v Speaker 1>at COVID all that shit. Like I love y'all and

0:41:40.640 --> 0:41:42.600
<v Speaker 1>I love you guys for letting me just make music

0:41:42.640 --> 0:41:44.799
<v Speaker 1>and be me. I'm so ready to do that with

0:41:44.880 --> 0:41:47.520
<v Speaker 1>y'all again, you know what I mean. That's dope. Well

0:41:47.560 --> 0:41:49.759
<v Speaker 1>there it is. Man, appreciate you pulling up. Go get go,

0:41:49.760 --> 0:41:51.839
<v Speaker 1>go check out the album. Check out the album. It's

0:41:51.880 --> 0:41:54.560
<v Speaker 1>not so bad. It's out right now. Tom Holland a

0:41:54.600 --> 0:41:57.520
<v Speaker 1>nice guy. Tom Holland is that's my homie, shouts out Tom.

0:41:57.520 --> 0:41:59.839
<v Speaker 1>He is the coolest. That's like your peeps. Huh that's

0:41:59.880 --> 0:42:02.440
<v Speaker 1>my dog. Yeah, he's great. Like I hang out with

0:42:02.520 --> 0:42:04.080
<v Speaker 1>him and in Day at the same time. You know what,

0:42:04.160 --> 0:42:06.600
<v Speaker 1>I actually only kicked it with in Day once. It

0:42:06.640 --> 0:42:09.239
<v Speaker 1>was at his It was at his uh. He had

0:42:09.280 --> 0:42:11.840
<v Speaker 1>like it was like a movie. After it was like

0:42:11.840 --> 0:42:15.719
<v Speaker 1>a really really tiny, little gathering, but I got like

0:42:15.920 --> 0:42:19.320
<v Speaker 1>super lit so nice. I think I embarrassed myself. Actually,

0:42:19.360 --> 0:42:20.759
<v Speaker 1>I think I like tried to get on a table

0:42:20.800 --> 0:42:23.080
<v Speaker 1>and perform my sp or some ship. It was like, Yo,

0:42:23.160 --> 0:42:25.319
<v Speaker 1>you guys want me to do I spy because I'm here, Yeah,

0:42:25.480 --> 0:42:28.160
<v Speaker 1>do it. Hey, I'll be here by the way. The

0:42:28.200 --> 0:42:30.000
<v Speaker 1>song right, yeah, y'all know the song. Yeah. I was

0:42:30.040 --> 0:42:32.640
<v Speaker 1>like smashed, so yeah, but now he's he's great. Every

0:42:32.640 --> 0:42:35.600
<v Speaker 1>time I'm in London, he shows me a good time.

0:42:35.640 --> 0:42:40.239
<v Speaker 1>And like at a best Buy in Atlanta, no way. Yeah.

0:42:40.280 --> 0:42:41.960
<v Speaker 1>She was in line in front of me and she

0:42:42.000 --> 0:42:44.080
<v Speaker 1>had this really tiny, little white security guard but he

0:42:44.120 --> 0:42:46.719
<v Speaker 1>looked like he's a murderer. Yeah that's that real. That's

0:42:46.719 --> 0:42:48.960
<v Speaker 1>how you know you're cracking. Security guard looked like a

0:42:49.000 --> 0:42:51.239
<v Speaker 1>normal bro. But I was like, uh. I was like

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<v Speaker 1>I just finished like euphoria and I was like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a day I fuck. Would you like? Yeah, they

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<v Speaker 1>should give you a fucking Emmy for that ship, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>She was like, oh, thank you, thank you. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, we'll go buy your hard drive. Yeah yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there it is. Man. Shout out to the Hoummy Kyle.

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<v Speaker 1>Go check the album out. Bulet Cash Show boom, Let's

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<v Speaker 1>Gone fire,