1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,120 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Boutleg keV Show. We got a special guest, 2 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: my guy Kyle is here. Man. Thank you keV, Thank 3 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: you keV. Yes, shouts out to keV Man. Yeah. So 4 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: are we back to independent now? We're back to independent, bro, 5 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: which is how it all started. It's how it started. 6 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:18,639 Speaker 1: That's that's that's like, that's home for me, you feel me? 7 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 1: Independent is like that's comfortable. That's how I know operate best. Yeah, 8 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: I feel like you know, for people who don't know you, 9 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: kind of like there was like a cool wave of 10 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: like you guys like yourself. There was the guy who 11 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:33,880 Speaker 1: looked like he should be in like a fifties movie 12 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 1: with the glasses. Uh, fucking gorgeous looking guy with the 13 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: hair you would make musical. No, no, he kind of 14 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: he was kind of like the GZ that didn't make it, 15 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: the GZ that didn't make it. Gorgeous looking guy front 16 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 1: of the fifties. Oh you mean do you why? D 17 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: you why? And then futuristic and like you know what 18 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 1: do you why? Though? Is actually he's doing he's doing 19 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: some cool ship. Yeah, he's doing his thing. Do I 20 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 1: do you? I? But I just remember like that it's 21 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: kind of like you know, like because I was real 22 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: cool with Futuristic at the time, and so like I 23 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 1: would kind of always see your shit and his shit, 24 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: and but like independently you kind of got it out 25 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: the mud. So you know, there's a lot been going 26 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: on with you, man. Yeah, yeah, what brought you back 27 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:18,479 Speaker 1: to kind of leaving the major label system and getting 28 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: back to what you what you know best? You know what? 29 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: For me, it was like when when I when I 30 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 1: partnered with you know, a major, It was a cool 31 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 1: experience because it's like, damn, you know, you have his 32 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: budget for everything. Everything you're doing is coming out at 33 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: like the top tier things. But you start realizing pretty quickly, 34 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: like there's not much that they can do for your 35 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:46,199 Speaker 1: music to like explode at this this expectation that they've 36 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: set you at now, you know what I mean. Like, 37 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: really all of my success was organic as fuck, you 38 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: feel me? Like my marketing advice from people I was 39 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: working with was to do this, you know what I'm saying. 40 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: And it's like, well, you're getting paid for this, and 41 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: they're no shit, they're getting paid a lot for that, 42 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: you know, and and you got to recoup whatever they're 43 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: getting paid exactly. And so and it's no like shade 44 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 1: to them at all, because my time working with Atlantic 45 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 1: was awesome. But I just realized, I'm like, oh, financially, 46 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 1: it makes way more sense for me to just do 47 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: this thing myself, because that's all they're asking me to 48 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: do anyways, Just be you and hopefully something pops off. 49 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 1: But if it doesn't pop off, we're gonna be like disappointed, 50 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And now it's like being independent. 51 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 1: I'm getting back to just making music because I think 52 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 1: it's cool, not because you're chasing. I'm chasing some sort 53 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: of smash and especially for me, the smash record they 54 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 1: want me to chase is like a diamond song, Like 55 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like I cannot repeat that 56 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: success for you at the drop of a dime. And 57 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: also I don't want to spend the rest of my 58 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 1: career trying to repeat that for y'all, you know what 59 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: I mean. And then also like just all that goes 60 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: into that, right like like in the major label system, 61 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: they're going to force you into the studio of people 62 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: that you don't want to be with and all that, 63 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 1: and then they're going to maybe force the song to 64 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: drop that you might not feel crazy about. But then 65 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: they put all this fucking money behind it, and then 66 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: you're like, well, what what the fuck? Like I gotta 67 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: fucking that comes out of my fucking that you add 68 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 1: to my balance? Yeah, yeah, one one, that's adding to 69 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: my tab and then two it's like really and and me, 70 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm I'm really easy to work with, Like 71 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: I'm impressionable, right, Like I'm nice, I'm easy going, and 72 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: I'm like flowing with it. And now I'm noticing that 73 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: like the team I've built, you know, is sort of 74 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: pushing me in a direction that it's not necessarily good 75 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: for me. It's not healthy for me, you know, Like 76 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: it's not healthy for me as an artist. Like I 77 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: was put here to make music and to like honestly 78 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: go against the grain. It just so happened at this 79 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: one moment in time, me going against the grain became 80 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 1: the popular thing. But if you ask anybody who's ever 81 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: worked with me, I'm always in the studio trying to 82 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: do whatever is most left. That's just how I operate, right, 83 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: you know. And so when you have this whole building 84 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: behind you and it's like nah, we going left, They're like, no, Kyle, 85 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: fuck go right, man, go nah, I can't you know? Yeah? No? 86 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: Was it like because when you have a record like 87 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 1: I Spy, which is like, like you said, it's diamond, 88 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: It's not diamond, but it's going to be diamond. It's 89 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: like seven crazy going eight times insane and it streams 90 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 1: like two hundred and fifty million times a year. It's insane. 91 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:35,160 Speaker 1: It's like one of those insane hit record anomalies. And 92 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 1: was it like a curse? And I mean, obviously you're 93 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: gonna love the money, you go love the head. That 94 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: shit put a lot of money in your pocket, But like, 95 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: is there a curse? That's the reason I can go independent. 96 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 1: I never need to be with I probably never need 97 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: to be with a major again because of that song. 98 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:54,359 Speaker 1: You know, it's amazing, And it's like that's where my 99 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: true joy is coming from, me being able to do 100 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 1: art the way I want to do it, not because 101 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: I do it to make money Financial Pillow exactly. Yeah. 102 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 1: But do you think, like, just in terms of like 103 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: Atlantic's perspective, when that's like your first I mean, I 104 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: guess kind of your first record with them, If you 105 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: feel like and it's like a diamond song, it kind 106 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: of like the expectation now is like exactly, So it's 107 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: like no matter what and that, and you're like, yo, 108 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: I'm like an artist, I do like cool artistic shit. Yeah, 109 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 1: I'm like I got here for a reason, but now 110 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: I'm those guys are going to have you be like, yeah, 111 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: well we got to follow this up straight up. And 112 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 1: that's why I don't like take anything away from them 113 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 1: and what they're trying to do. I think just for me, 114 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 1: like the situation just no longer fits what makes what 115 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: brings me joy, and that's what life is about. You 116 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: feel me having as much joy as possible until you 117 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: finally are no longer here, and I think, yeah, it 118 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: just didn't add up for bringing me joy anymore, because 119 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: it's like y'all, one, you're like, our idea for how 120 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: to pop this off is just to me to shoot tiktoks, 121 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:00,919 Speaker 1: like I can do that all my own straight up, 122 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: thanks to the advice. Thank you for the advice. Then two, 123 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: it's like okay, yeah, that that song that y'all want 124 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 1: me to follow up is like a once sent a 125 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: generational song, Like, so I can't dedicate the next five 126 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 1: years of my career to just trying to put that 127 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: on the board. I'm not gonna have fun. I need 128 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 1: to be able to go just do shit I want 129 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: to do without feeling like I'm letting y'all down every time. 130 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: Like I said, like now we're going left fucking God 131 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:28,359 Speaker 1: please right, Nah, I can't. It felt like there was 132 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,039 Speaker 1: a couple of records that you dropped that like felt 133 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 1: very forced. Yeah, you know, and I I agree. The 134 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 1: thing is with me, I can kind of make any 135 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 1: kind of genre of music, right, And that's not like 136 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: trying to big myself up too much. It's just the truth, 137 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 1: you know. I mean, like I can go in the 138 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: studio with any person from any background, any language, anywhere 139 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 1: in the world, and I'm gonna make a slap with you. 140 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: So like I'm always down to try some shit. But 141 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 1: I'm realizing, oh, I'm trying this and y'all are excited 142 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: about it because you're just thinking dollar signs and that's 143 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 1: not how our is supposed to be. Made you feel 144 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 1: me like Quincy Jones told me, And it's the truest thing. 145 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,280 Speaker 1: The moment you're in the studio and you start thinking 146 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: about money or you start thinking about financial success, and 147 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 1: that's what you're talking about. God gets up and leaves, 148 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: And if God is not in there making songs with you, 149 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: what makes you think it's gonna be hard. It's not. 150 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: Everything that's fire in the world is fire because God 151 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: helped it be lit like that, Like, if he's not 152 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: in the studio, which you making music, it's not gonna 153 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: slab And the moment you start focusing on my money 154 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: that she's not gonna slap, so it's like, yo, yeah, 155 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: just some of those records, I felt like, we're we're 156 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: doing this because I'm so nice and I'm trying to 157 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 1: appease this. Y'all just want another massive, massive song, and 158 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: it's like I can't. I can't spend my time doing that. 159 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: And it also like obviously the situation was probably very 160 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: beneficial because it, I mean, when you're on a major 161 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: there is a notoriety that comes with that. There is 162 00:07:56,320 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: a you know, and I feel invisible and like, you know, shit, 163 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: you got into the acting game. The Netflix movie was 164 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: super dope. Yeah, I'm just trying to remember that. I 165 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: just remember you puked yes after party after parting. That 166 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: shit was great. It was like realistic too. It was 167 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: like kind of like it was like low key, like 168 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 1: a little like Davish before Dave. Yeah, you know what, 169 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: it felt very like almost like a bio pick or something. 170 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: But the only thing is it was really close to 171 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: my life. But I think that was just the star 172 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: as aligning. Like the kids supposed to be maxed that's 173 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 1: one thing. Like his dad's supposed to be in the Marines, 174 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: that's another thing. It was like the East Coast version 175 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 1: of my actual life. You know, his manager being like 176 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: this other white dude that is his friend from where 177 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 1: he's from. It's like Nolan, you know what I mean. 178 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: It's like very yeah, It's like it's like the New 179 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 1: York version of me. The like I thought that movie 180 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: was great. Are you doing more of that? Like are 181 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: you gonna be doing more acting and stuff? Like yeah, yeah, 182 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: hell yeah I did. I was. I was lucky enough 183 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: to be in this uh Russo Brothers movie called Cherry 184 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:12,079 Speaker 1: Fire starring uh yeah, starring Tom Holland, Michael Gandalafini, Sierra Bravos, 185 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: the two named Forrest Good like Spider Man's in it. 186 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: So it's like, yeah, I mean the movie's already out. 187 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: I haven't seen this. Yeah, it's already came out of 188 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: Apple and by the way, Tom, That's why, because who's 189 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: got my dog? My dog? Shout out to Apple plus 190 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 1: ted Lasso's gas. Yeah, ted Lasso's Hey, Cherry's gas. I'm 191 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 1: gonna check it out my free my free Uh what 192 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: was it? The free trial ran out? So I was like, 193 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: all right, well I knocked out ted Lasso. Now I 194 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: gotta sign up. I'm too busy watching you get a 195 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: fire stick and just call it a day, bro, Just 196 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: go on, bro, I got over that ship. Cody trying 197 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: to link sloading being all fucking slow. I'm like, dude, 198 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna pay for everything. What am I doing? 199 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: You'd be like thirty minutes into a fucking bootleg link 200 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 1: on your hacked fire stick and this ship would freeze. 201 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: You'd have to find a new link. It was not 202 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: for sure, pay for the ship, man. Just just pay 203 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: for keV. You got it, bro keV, you have it, 204 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: you got it. I have every everything else. So I'm 205 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 1: a fucking paramount. Plus watching Apple plus Yellowstone right now, 206 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 1: get Apple plus you watch Yellowstone. I do. It's it's tight. 207 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: It's kind of like the real it's kind of like 208 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:19,199 Speaker 1: the real, like cowboy version of succession. That's all it's 209 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: succession with like guns and more alcohol. That's like, that's 210 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 1: Dunton is a fucking gangster ass bitch. She's lit. She's lit. 211 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 1: It was like it's like Sons of Anarchy on on horses. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 212 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: it gives me succession vibes too. Yeah, because the family aspect, 213 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:40,199 Speaker 1: and yeah, I'm still a touch of racism in there. 214 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: It's kind of like there's like this, It's like it's 215 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 1: like the Salt Bay, like just enough little It's a 216 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:49,719 Speaker 1: great show, but let's see. Yeah, it's a lot of 217 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: white people in Montana. Then you got the one black 218 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:54,959 Speaker 1: guy who's in the bunk house. Yeah, you know what 219 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: the thing is, Bro never says ship. I'm like, yo, 220 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: he doesn't say ship. He's just there just like we need, 221 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: we need, we need a black like diversity. Just give 222 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: one black dude, put him in there. I don't have 223 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: him say nothing. But I do love the show. Hey, Yellowstone, 224 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: I love the shot. I think it's fine. Kevin Costner's 225 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: from Compton. Kevin Costners from Compton, but Kevin Costner also 226 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 1: is from Ventura. What Yeah, I didn't know that. You know, 227 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: growing up in Ventura, you like everybody's like Kevin Costner, 228 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: he's like the most. He went to Bay High School. 229 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: He went to the high school that my fiance went to. Wow. 230 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 1: I actually met Kevin Costner before, like in Inventura. Yeah, Inventura. 231 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: We were doing like this venta like little I think 232 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:36,679 Speaker 1: it was like a benefit concert, and all of a sudden, 233 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: this like kind of like security guard type dude walks 234 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:41,439 Speaker 1: up and it's like, hey, you know, Kevin Costner is 235 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: like here, and I'm like shit, Kevin content like, yeah, 236 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 1: right there, Like you can say hi to him. It's 237 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 1: almost like an invitation to say what's up, but not 238 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,199 Speaker 1: like Kevin cost wants to say hi to you, Just 239 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: just so you know he's right there. You can talk 240 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:55,359 Speaker 1: to him, like oh shit, you know, I'm kind of nervous. 241 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: I walk up. I'm like yo, uh keV. I was like, 242 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: it's nice to meet you, manmind It's like, yeah, I 243 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: know you are. He's like, yeah, you're mister Ventura now, 244 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: and I like, wow, cry bro Kevin Costner called me 245 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 1: mister Ventura. You know it's crazy now that that's like 246 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: a title somebody has. But if anybody can give that 247 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: title out to something, yeah for sure him. Yeah, as 248 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: much as like Kevin Costner is a legend, feel the 249 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 1: Dreams Dances with the Wolves. If I meet Kevin Costerer today, 250 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 1: I'm calling him John Dunton, even call hi John. Yeah, 251 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: but that's even more lit because that means he's still 252 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: Like if if somebody can look at you like an actor, Dunton, 253 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: can I get a photo straight up as an actor? 254 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 1: If somebody can look at you and call you your 255 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: character's name, like, your shit is smacking right then and 256 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 1: there in the moment, you know what I mean. Yeah, yeah, yeah, No, 257 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 1: it's crazy because I'm on you know now, I'm on 258 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 1: the radio every night in Ventura shot out to Cue 259 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: and Mambo and those guys and sir. But I went 260 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: and had lunch, like downtow. Venture is a vibe. It's yeah, 261 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 1: come on, it's a big vibe right there. Yeah. Venture 262 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: is kind of like a special place because it's very 263 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 1: it's like anywhere you USA type vibe. It's just very small. 264 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: It's like the last small. It's like the small it's 265 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 1: the only like small town vibe you can catch in 266 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 1: like southern California. To me, that's like really like special 267 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: and it feels like it's own place. There's no place 268 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: like vent and when it's like twenty five minutes past 269 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 1: Calabasas or something, Yeah, exactly, it's here, like it's really here, 270 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 1: but it's not here. It's its own world, you know. Yeah, no, 271 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: it's it's ventur is a vibe man, Like I feel 272 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 1: like a lot of people who like, you know, ma homi. 273 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: Joey Boy would always tell people like, yo, man, you 274 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: gotta start telling people to like, you know, have weekend 275 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: trips to Ventura, like you know, a little staycations and 276 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: shit stay wait, who's this Joey Boy used to do. 277 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: Joe Boy. He used to be on the radio out there. Okay, 278 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 1: Joey Boy, stop stop giving up the secrets. Brouh. Don't 279 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 1: don't wonder nobody going up there. We trying and keep 280 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 1: this ship to ourselves. I'm sorry, keV. You can come. 281 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 1: Only the Dallas Cowboys are allowed. Yeah, facts, Oh yeah, 282 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: I used to watch it. I used to watch the 283 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 1: cowboys over there all the time, like a practice and whatnot. 284 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:58,439 Speaker 1: Remember one time I walked up to Terrell owsed to 285 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: get like an autographed ball, and he kind of just 286 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: like gave me like a wave instead. 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So you deposit a thousand, they 335 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: match a thousand bet anything anytime, anywhere with my Bookie. 336 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: Let's get back to the podcast. So you didn't grow 337 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 1: up so you're very optimistic kid. Okay, so you grew 338 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: up a RAMS fan, though I grew up a RAMS fan. Yeah, 339 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: which is interesting because most people in LA or in 340 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: this southern California region, obviously there are og Rams fans 341 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 1: because the Rams used to be in LA for a 342 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: period of time. Shout out Eric Dickerson. But yeah, but 343 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: if you're one of them Rams fans, like you can't 344 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 1: you must have gray hair to claim yes, like straight yes, 345 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 1: or like a bunch of tattoos and like yeah, I'm 346 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: like I know, ah, this guy's this guy's in there. Yeah. 347 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: But then but but what, I've been to a lot 348 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 1: of Rams games this year, and I feel like I 349 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: call them Rams bros. Yeah, Rams bros. Yeah, because they're like, 350 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 1: you know, they've lived here for like six years, they're 351 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 1: in Santa Monica or Vantage. Yeah, they're like yeah, yeah, 352 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: they kick it at Bungalow or whatever. That game there's 353 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 1: a football game, Bro, LA's got a team, fucking Rams, 354 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 1: let's go up. Yeah. There's a lot of those, for sure. 355 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 1: And then there's Yg who was a forty nine er fan. Yeah, 356 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: there's a lot. And see this is the thing about 357 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 1: this thing about the forty nine er thing, right, It's 358 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:36,919 Speaker 1: like there's a lot of especially people my age, like 359 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: what the fuck else were you supposed to root for 360 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: that entire time? No? For sure. Luckily enough, my family 361 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:45,880 Speaker 1: is from Saint Louis, my mom, my dad. Like, when 362 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 1: I was a little kid, we were watching the Rams, 363 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 1: especially because when I was a little kid, they were 364 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 1: Lit Warner, Kurt Warren Turf, straight up Bro Marshall, Fall, 365 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 1: Isaac Bruce like that. We were killing it. So I 366 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 1: was watching all that shit. But all my homies were 367 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 1: all Niner fans or Cowboy fans, which is yeah, because 368 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: I can imagine in like in the eight oh five, 369 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 1: it's a lot of Cowboys fans because calla Cowboys fans 370 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:10,640 Speaker 1: are Raiders fans. Cowboys fans are the most delusional fans 371 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:12,959 Speaker 1: in all sports. Straight up. They don't they don't realize 372 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 1: how much they suck. They're crazy, they're creaty. I actually 373 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:18,919 Speaker 1: am not even mad at the Cowboys. They're fans fucking suck. Yeah. No, 374 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: they're fans are trash. They're fans treated like they're on 375 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 1: a dynasty run right now, and it's like, no, y'all 376 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:28,439 Speaker 1: are not. They're really not. So are you? Obviously you're 377 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:30,439 Speaker 1: feeling good about the Super Bowl? Yeah, of course you're 378 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 1: gonna be there. Have you to spend thirty eight thousand 379 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: dollars on a ticket? Lock? No, because you know I 380 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:37,880 Speaker 1: have season tickets for the Rams. Yeah. And I looked 381 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: up like my seat. I get my seats at like 382 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,400 Speaker 1: face value, you know what I mean. And I looked 383 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 1: up my seat and that shit is thirty nine thousand 384 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 1: dollars a piece. Oh, I got two of them. And 385 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:52,120 Speaker 1: I looked at my I was like, baby, we're not going. 386 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. You know, if you know some other dude 387 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 1: that got in like you might want to hit him 388 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: up because we're not going. Yeah. No, it's crazy because 389 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 1: even if I could, like, you know, obviously, if you 390 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 1: have season tickets, you're not getting super Bowl tickets. But 391 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 1: I'm selling if I have fucking Rams tickets, I got 392 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:10,919 Speaker 1: them a face value for some reason, I'm slinging them things. Yeah, 393 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 1: well they don't give you that option, right, I would 394 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 1: have loved to sell my ship for thirty eight thousand 395 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:18,439 Speaker 1: and not go. Of course, when you have season tickets, 396 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 1: you don't have access to the super Bowl tickets. That's true. Yeah, 397 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:26,120 Speaker 1: you see how cold that is. You don't get access 398 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:29,919 Speaker 1: to the Superman Rams. I love y'all, but I have 399 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: a problem. Okay, it's backwards. Yeah, so talk about the 400 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,439 Speaker 1: new album. Give me the meaning behind the title got You. 401 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:40,399 Speaker 1: It's not so bad. Yeah, my new album was basically like, 402 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 1: it's just a word of affirmation. It's not so bad. 403 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: It's like some I tell myself a lot, because in 404 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 1: the middle of that pandemic, it was like, damn, life 405 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 1: really sucked, at least from I know for everybody, but 406 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:56,679 Speaker 1: like from my own personal experience, like I was really 407 00:19:56,720 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: really hating, hating, life. I just dropped to see you 408 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 1: when I'm famous. It's like, in the middle of the pandemic, 409 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: I can't go tour, I can't go do shit for it, right, 410 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:07,640 Speaker 1: It's like just a lot of whack things at once. 411 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: But I'm truly an optimist, and I believe like at 412 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: any given moment, you can either see the world as 413 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 1: a fucked up place, so you can see it as 414 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: a beautiful thing if you pay attention to small things 415 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: in your life that are actually meaningful. And that's why 416 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 1: I was just telling myself, I'm like, dude, it's not 417 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: so bad. Like it's not so bad. There's a bunch 418 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 1: like I'm in this situation with this label that I 419 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 1: don't like, you know, Like it's like I can't promote 420 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 1: myself or do anything in the middle of the pandemic. 421 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,120 Speaker 1: I'll know what to do. But I started focusing on 422 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: things that just genuinely brought me joy, and I started 423 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: realizing how much I don't need this situation with this label, 424 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 1: how much I don't need all this promotion and you know, 425 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: and this tours and these festivals and these things I 426 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: thought were completing my life so much. It's like, no, 427 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: I need to like make music and have fun, and 428 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: I need to remind people that all they need is joy, right, 429 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 1: And so that was that was a meaning behind the title. 430 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 1: It's just a word of affirmation that was helping me. 431 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: And then with that, when I started making an album, 432 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 1: it was like this low fi album and like it 433 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: was sad shit. It was like beats to study too. 434 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,119 Speaker 1: I was for real interest music. I just throw that 435 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 1: shit on. There's like like one where like Homer's yeah 436 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 1: yeah yeah, so but I'm in there were like top 437 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 1: tier producers like playing like low fi beats, like yeah, 438 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: were about to do this shit. They has like two 439 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 1: sounds in it. They're looking at me like no, we're not, 440 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,919 Speaker 1: you know, but I was really I was really like 441 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: on that. And then I realized, like, bro, that's not 442 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,919 Speaker 1: the superhero version of yourself that you claim to be, 443 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,919 Speaker 1: you know, like you claim to be somebody who's going 444 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 1: to help somebody forget about their worries and about their 445 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 1: shit and like, look on the brighter side. So don't 446 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,640 Speaker 1: you dare drop this sad ass album in the middle 447 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: of all this sad ass shit, bro. And so I 448 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 1: went up. I left La. I went to Miami because 449 00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 1: La just was like so sad at the time. We 450 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: really took COVID. Not that we took it serious, because 451 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 1: we should all take it serious, but we kind of 452 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 1: took it overboard, yeah a little bit, you know, a 453 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 1: little bit. We took it a little overboard, and Miami 454 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 1: was kind of doing a complete opposite. I went to Miami. 455 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 1: I was like, this is amazing. Yeah, me too. I 456 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: was like that, I feel like life is normal again. 457 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: Straight up. Life was normal out there, and it just 458 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 1: was like kind of like an escape for me. And 459 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: I went out there and I made as much turned 460 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 1: happy music as I could, and I did it in 461 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 1: an environment where I had fifteen people in the studio, 462 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 1: which I never do, right, And that's why when I 463 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 1: hear this album, I'll go out to the club or 464 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: something like that, which I never fucking do anyways. But 465 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,199 Speaker 1: then I'll go out there and I'll hear it played 466 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: with all this other exciting music and it fits right 467 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: in for the first time, you know, because a lot 468 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,439 Speaker 1: of my music is always so personal and so just 469 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:52,120 Speaker 1: me by my side studio. This shit is vibing because 470 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 1: I did it with like fifteen people in the studio, Like, Hey, 471 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,679 Speaker 1: what's up? Y'all. I'm Kyle. I don't know none of y'all, 472 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 1: but I need to have a really good time right 473 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 1: now because like it sucks back home. Let's make an album. 474 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,199 Speaker 1: And that's sort of how we did it, you know. 475 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 1: That's how I've been in the studio with Game a 476 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 1: few times last month, and there's a lot of fucking 477 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: people in there, man, rappers be operating. No, No, I've 478 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 1: been to a lot of sessions over the years. I 479 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 1: mean maybe thousands, not a thousand, maybe a thousand, maybe 480 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,439 Speaker 1: like five hundred. But if you've been to thousands of sessions, 481 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, were like I have a couple 482 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 1: of artists I work for a week, but like the 483 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: Game had like a legitimate, like fifty sixty people in 484 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,400 Speaker 1: the studio, and I wanted to guess I was gonna 485 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 1: be like it was a lot bro Yeah, and like 486 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: maybe like five of them were actually contributing to like 487 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: the music. Yeah, people hitting houka, fucking drinking. Like I'm like, 488 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,880 Speaker 1: this ship is fucking crazy. It's like playoffs in here. Yeah, 489 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: the fuck is going to see there's a path look 490 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: for me. Like I always thought that that shit was weird, 491 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: but I thought it I think it adds, like for him, 492 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 1: like wherever he is creatively right now, Like that's like 493 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: that now it is juice. It helps because like yeah, 494 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:03,400 Speaker 1: like for me, like I always thought that she was weird. 495 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 1: I'm like, how the fuck can y'all focus about like 496 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:06,919 Speaker 1: telling like this really personal story in front of all 497 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: these people? And that's the key though, Like when you 498 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 1: have other people in there and music is loud on 499 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 1: two big ass speakers, everything you're doing is impacting their mood. 500 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 1: So if you turn around and you see these sixty 501 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:25,159 Speaker 1: people all just fucking chilling on their phone, like you know, 502 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 1: if their vibe is fucked up, that's because the music 503 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 1: you're making is not geared for entertaining large amounts of 504 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 1: people at once, you know. So it's like a cheat 505 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 1: code kind of in a way, Like you need to 506 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: have other people in there and you captivate their vibe. 507 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:44,120 Speaker 1: Like my fiance she's a DJ, right, and the homie 508 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 1: that an r this project, just Demmy, is a DJ, 509 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 1: and so I have them set up in the lobby 510 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 1: right with two big ass speakers and mixers. Now y'all 511 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,439 Speaker 1: are going DJ in the lobby, And so when people 512 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 1: walk in to the studio. Yes, wow, people, Keaton is 513 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 1: making them a drink. Right, every sixty minutes, everybody in 514 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 1: the studio needs to take a shot. This is a rule. 515 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,159 Speaker 1: If you're not taking this shot, you're leaving, you know 516 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,360 Speaker 1: what I mean, unless for whatever reason you don't drink. 517 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,439 Speaker 1: It's party religion something like that. But they're gonna take 518 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 1: the shot because we're making party music. We're making music 519 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 1: to help people forget about their problems. So if you 520 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: don't want to be in here where the studio is at, 521 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: well we're making in the lobby. There's loud ass music 522 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 1: and you're taking a shot out there too, So everybody 523 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: is entering this sort of zone of like this is 524 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 1: a party, you know. Side note, I wish it was 525 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 1: kind of the SoundCloud days because you could just throw 526 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 1: the lo Fi album out just to just just to see, 527 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: just like yo, let's I mean, the LOFA album is there. 528 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,919 Speaker 1: I could put it out like I right, I can 529 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 1: literally do me a hardcore like fans are gonna be 530 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 1: in the comments like, yo, we want to hear the 531 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 1: fucking Lofi album. Man, I'm be like, I'll give it 532 00:25:55,840 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 1: to y'all. It's sad, yes, but you know, do you 533 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 1: feel like now that like, you know, because when you 534 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 1: were independent, the industry was way different, right, Like it'd 535 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 1: be fair to say that you built a lot of 536 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,479 Speaker 1: your following on YouTube, right straight up? Yeah, yeah, but 537 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,239 Speaker 1: like just in general, you know, back then it was 538 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:19,160 Speaker 1: you could still purchase stuff on iTunes. They're streaming wasn't 539 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 1: as big in what that was like what twenty thirteen twelve? 540 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 1: Being independent now that the industry has changed so much, 541 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 1: is like are you having to still kind of I mean, 542 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: you know the music industry. You have very smart people 543 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: around you, but like, what are the things that you're 544 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 1: practicing now to try to kind of repeat the success 545 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 1: that you had, you know back then. That's a really 546 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 1: good question. I think the industry has changed big time. 547 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,159 Speaker 1: I think back in the day, it was about like 548 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 1: brand personality on YouTube, right because the YouTube is a 549 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,880 Speaker 1: video of this guy. Do we think this guy is cool? 550 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: What's his story, what's he look like, what's he from? 551 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,199 Speaker 1: You know, like you capture all these things and everybody 552 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,120 Speaker 1: so heavily on YouTube, and now in the streaming era, 553 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 1: it's kind of more like, all right, does this sound 554 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 1: out of these fifty thousand songs? I listen to does 555 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 1: it capture me? And so I think the name of 556 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 1: the game now is really focusing on your micro fan base, 557 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 1: right you them? Yeah, your fan base is this? My 558 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,119 Speaker 1: fan base is this, Like I'm a very famous person, 559 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 1: Like I walk your monthly listeners are fucking huge on 560 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 1: spot when I walk down the street, Like people are 561 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 1: going to recognize me type shit. Now, dually, you're also 562 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 1: very unique. People are like, oh, it's the guy with 563 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 1: the great hair. That is what I'm talking about. Ya, 564 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: So it's here and then, But I can't focus on 565 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 1: this in today's world, right, I have to focus on this, 566 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:45,399 Speaker 1: this smaller amount of people that are really into everything 567 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: I do. I engaged, engaged, I need to super serve them. 568 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 1: They're buying merch there, they're buying everything, They're keeping things afloat. 569 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,399 Speaker 1: I need to super serve them. And as I'm super 570 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 1: serving them, something will raise its hand and then appeal 571 00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 1: to all these people. That's how you do it. And 572 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 1: that's kind of what I notice in today's independent game 573 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 1: because the music is easy to make. The music don't 574 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 1: cost nothing to make, you know, So it's about dropping 575 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 1: as much quality product as you can to these people 576 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 1: who fuck with you and then kind of the something 577 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 1: breaks out of that awesome then you're on. Yeah, but 578 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:20,640 Speaker 1: those people are gonna be keep your lights on. They're 579 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:24,159 Speaker 1: gonna exact bills. I would tell every artist that, I'm like, yo, 580 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 1: if you've got a core fucking fan base, like feed 581 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,959 Speaker 1: them what they want and then something's gonna break through. Exactly. 582 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 1: You're independent, like it only makes sense. Like you know, 583 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, the name of the 584 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 1: game is to support yourself off of music, straight up, 585 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 1: support yourself off of songs. And in the streaming world, 586 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: that's what you do. You upload the song and he 587 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 1: immediately starts paying you. In the YouTube world where I 588 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 1: came from, it's like, no, you build as big of 589 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 1: a brand as you can and you go on tour 590 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 1: and that's what pays you. Music didn't pay nobody, right, 591 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 1: you know. So now it's like, and these people love you, 592 00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 1: they'll listen to everything, so give them is much as 593 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 1: possible in tapping with them, like I'm on Patreon, I'm 594 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 1: on Twitch, I'm on Patreon, Discord, I'm on all that 595 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: shit because these people, me and them, we are friends. 596 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 1: I haven't heard of many artists on Patreon, so kind 597 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 1: of because obviously in the podcast space, it's a lot 598 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 1: of podcasts creators that go on Patreon. It's kind of 599 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 1: like only fans, but without Pussy and Titch exactly. Yeah, 600 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 1: it's only fans with I would be a hyper sexualized yr. 601 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 1: So like if you you know, like if you have 602 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 1: a Doupe podcast, you might some people will have be 603 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 1: on Patreon and they might do a bonus episode. Yeah, 604 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 1: they might have, Like you might get the episode before 605 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: everyone else, type, shit, how do you use it? So 606 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 1: what I do is I just give them the music first. 607 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 1: If I have a song that's coming out next month, 608 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 1: they have it right now, you know, like not for nothing. 609 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 1: And I know this is gonna piss people off. They 610 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 1: had the album like a day and a half in advance, 611 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 1: the whole thing, every song, mastered, the whole shit, and 612 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 1: I gave it to them first. I'm not getting none 613 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 1: of them plays recorded. I'm not none of that. You know, 614 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 1: those streams aren't counting for anything except for their excitement 615 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 1: and their enjoyment. So I try to give them as 616 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 1: much as possible first. And you're monetizing that probably at 617 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 1: a better rate. There, you're monetizing streams damn yeah straight up. Yeah, fact, 618 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 1: like yeah, fuck the streams, like these people are paying 619 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 1: how much you charge a month? Five dollars a month? Yeah? 620 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 1: Is there different tiers or just one? There's different tiers, 621 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 1: So what's the highest tier? I believe the highest tier 622 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 1: is fifteen dollars I think, And it just comes with 623 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 1: higher levels of access, you know, more shit I can 624 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 1: give you before I can give it to anybody else. 625 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: That's big. Get enough people doing that, there's you know, 626 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 1: you get enough people doing that, and once again, you 627 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 1: don't have to worry about taking no advance from nobody, 628 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 1: you know, being in some shitty loan situation. And really 629 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 1: really what it was for me too is realizing, oh, 630 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 1: I'm massively successful in music, right, Like I Spibe is 631 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 1: a billion something stream song, you know, maybe going towards 632 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 1: two or some shit like that. You know, playing with 633 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 1: me as like was five hundred million streams, Like Hey 634 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 1: Julie is another Golder platinum record. Like there's massive success. 635 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 1: But in order for me to be truly like rich 636 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 1: as fuck, I need to be doing all that shit 637 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 1: independently by myself. You know, it's real. That's how you 638 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 1: actually reach like masterpiece status or somebody like that who's 639 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 1: genuinely wealthy off their music. You need to just do 640 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: it yourself. And in today's world, I have these people 641 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 1: who are supporting me, who love me, my homies right this, 642 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 1: my family, who're gonna keep things afloat no matter what, 643 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 1: whether I'm up down sideways. And then I have all 644 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 1: this endless amount of music that I can release what 645 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 1: I'm having to go through, all this yellow tape. I 646 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 1: can just drop record after record after record, and when 647 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 1: something waves its hand to the masses, cool and all 648 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 1: of the money exactly exactly. And all I gotta do 649 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 1: is make tiktoks honestly, because I can imagine, like, okay, 650 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 1: so hey, we got to stuff the podcast man real quick. 651 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 1: Appreciate y'all for watching, really mean it. Subscribe, like leave 652 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 1: a comment if you're one of those dickheads who leaves 653 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 1: the column. 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That's and I would say too, sorry, 681 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 1: I'll get your finish go ahead. I would say too, 682 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 1: I'm not anti like company, you know what I mean. 683 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 1: I'm anti royalty shares and master ownings being so in 684 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 1: favor of this company for you to essentially still do 685 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 1: all the work. Yeah, because there's people who like, you know, 686 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 1: if you do a major label deal and they give 687 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 1: you thirteen percent of your album, that's like amazing, that's 688 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 1: like whoa. People are like, oh, you're killing it. But 689 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 1: that's like not even a norm. Like some people like 690 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 1: they'd be lucky to get eight points on their own shit, 691 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 1: which is crazy. If you get smacked like that, I would. 692 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 1: You're now you're pulling up to the office ready to 693 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 1: It's like what do we do well? You know, like 694 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 1: yg just talked about it on the Bronze Shit, he 695 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 1: was on the Bronze HBO show and he was saying 696 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 1: how he's never made he's never got a check off 697 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 1: his royalty yet, Like his whole career is crazy. It's 698 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:31,360 Speaker 1: just advance, advance, advance man, And that's cap because that 699 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 1: shit is crazy, bro, because when I think about somebody 700 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 1: like YG, like me being from southern California has been 701 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,439 Speaker 1: a literal staple in my like young adult life since 702 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,800 Speaker 1: I was like fifteen, for sure, right since I was 703 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 1: a child, like we wanted to dress like YG, listen 704 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 1: to YG, b like YG. For somebody to be that 705 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:53,400 Speaker 1: successful for so long and still never gotten a royalty thing, like, 706 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 1: it's fucking so ridiculous because as rich as he is, 707 00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,319 Speaker 1: he's had to have made them ten times. It's just 708 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 1: that it's that advanced thing, right, It's like, Okay, if 709 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:05,720 Speaker 1: I turn in an album, I get, you know, whatever 710 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 1: you worked out individually, you know. So it's like some people, 711 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,720 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think. I think like the industry 712 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 1: is starting to smarten up. Artists are starting to realize, 713 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,840 Speaker 1: like I know some people who will just pass on 714 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 1: the advance and be like, no, I'm good, like you know, 715 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 1: do the service. Yeah yeah, no, it's crazy. So that's dope. 716 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:24,800 Speaker 1: So are you just doing straight tune core, straight distro 717 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 1: kid or not? So we're doing so I'm like still uploading, yeah, 718 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,239 Speaker 1: uploading things through like distro Kid and stuff like that. 719 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 1: But still I'm working with a company that's really just 720 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:39,799 Speaker 1: my managers and it's independent and they're they're my managers. Yeah, 721 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:44,279 Speaker 1: and they're pitching to Spotify and pitching to playlists and 722 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 1: shit like that, and that's all we're doing. That's dope. 723 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:49,279 Speaker 1: That And then all the same services that like a 724 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:53,719 Speaker 1: major company was doing or hiring out. I'm just going 725 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,759 Speaker 1: to those people because you solo and hiring them myself. Right, 726 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,919 Speaker 1: I'm hiring the press team, hiring the digital marketing team, 727 00:35:59,920 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 1: like there's still a team around, but there's no reason 728 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,240 Speaker 1: why you can't pay for it for yourself. Also, hello, 729 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 1: not even a major label can guarantee a spot on 730 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 1: a fucking playlist. All they can do is fucking pitch 731 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 1: it as well. Now they might these people might listen 732 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 1: a little bit, you know, well, they listen way stronger. 733 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,360 Speaker 1: I'll say that I'll do with even me putting this 734 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,680 Speaker 1: album out, I'm like, oh, y'all are listening way stronger 735 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 1: to that. Like, like I said, I think all companies, 736 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 1: I think that they're awesome. I just think that what 737 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 1: they do is awesome. I just think that the business 738 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:30,920 Speaker 1: needs to be way more in favor of the artists 739 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,440 Speaker 1: because so much of the job is way more on 740 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,279 Speaker 1: the shoulder of the artist. All I gotta go on 741 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 1: Instagram and make the ship. You gotta be fucking on TikTok. 742 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:40,879 Speaker 1: You gotta be you gotta do everything, and then they're 743 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,799 Speaker 1: just gonna come through with a canister gasoline. And then 744 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 1: once you have the fire, Once you have the fire, 745 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 1: you got to start to fire yourself, exactly. So when 746 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 1: I was just like, if I got to start to 747 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 1: fire myself, my gym and needs some more this money, exactly, 748 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 1: And if I start to fire myself, I'll just go 749 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 1: fuck with somebody else and just be like, oh look 750 00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 1: I got this fire, Now put some gasoline on it. 751 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 1: For this this is what I'm offering you a fraction 752 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:04,759 Speaker 1: of the thing to put the gasoline on it. And 753 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:06,799 Speaker 1: that's make it make sense. But you got to get 754 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 1: out of that first situation to even have the power 755 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,840 Speaker 1: to do that. You know, I'm really not anti company, 756 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 1: I'm anti the business of how much they're taking on 757 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,120 Speaker 1: it Was it easy for you to break away? Like 758 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 1: did you just fulfill your contractual obligations or did you 759 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 1: ask to leave? I asked to leave, and it's and 760 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,400 Speaker 1: it's and it was it was easy to break away because, 761 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 1: like I said, the people there like like we have 762 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,920 Speaker 1: a good relationship, Like I love them, they love me. 763 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:33,960 Speaker 1: And it was always easy to work. It was never 764 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 1: like static, Like I never had like let me a 765 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,520 Speaker 1: fuck the label moment. I never did that because they're people. 766 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,279 Speaker 1: They're people doing their jobs. You know, that's it. They're 767 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,239 Speaker 1: really just people doing their jobs. Just the business of 768 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,839 Speaker 1: it wasn't right. So I'm like, yo, you know. And 769 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 1: by the way, my song was so massive that my 770 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:55,480 Speaker 1: fucking advance checks are crazy. So do y'all really want 771 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,480 Speaker 1: to do? You want me to turn another album? And 772 00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:58,799 Speaker 1: you want me to turn me another album and you 773 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:00,160 Speaker 1: come me to this bat ass check? What do you 774 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,399 Speaker 1: want to do? You know what I mean? Because and 775 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,280 Speaker 1: I was also kind of like making low five music 776 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,120 Speaker 1: at the time, probably like look y'all want this now 777 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:11,359 Speaker 1: fire album or what? Yeah? Nah, we don't actually, And 778 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 1: it's cool because I kind of want to move on too, 779 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 1: So it's like it's love. You know. It was good. 780 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,439 Speaker 1: It was It was actually really seemless, really easy. That's dope, man. Yeah, 781 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,480 Speaker 1: Well the albums I've heard horror stories. Are you doing 782 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,759 Speaker 1: anything else that you could talk about coming up? Yeah, bro. 783 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,719 Speaker 1: I mean, first of all, yeah, album is out. It's 784 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 1: the hottest album of the year. Okay, it's just listen. 785 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,840 Speaker 1: I mean it is January, it's February. So far we 786 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:37,840 Speaker 1: got the hottest album. And yeah, I'm going on tour 787 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 1: for this album and the tour starts in March. So 788 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,560 Speaker 1: are you excited to get back on the road. Fuck, yeah, 789 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:48,280 Speaker 1: I'm excited to. I'm excited to just see the people 790 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 1: when they went back to the music and I haven't 791 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:52,879 Speaker 1: done that so long. And like, as you noted from 792 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 1: like twenty twelve, it is kind of when I started 793 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:56,839 Speaker 1: my independent grind that whole time was just supported by 794 00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:01,440 Speaker 1: like ten people, thirty people, one hundred people, four hundred people, 795 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,359 Speaker 1: a thousand people, five thousand people, forty thousand people out 796 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,719 Speaker 1: of show who are connecting, like, and your live show 797 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:09,759 Speaker 1: is dope as fuck, Like I think the first well, 798 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 1: I feel like I might have saw you a south By. 799 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,160 Speaker 1: I think we first. I don't know when we first met. 800 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 1: It was like twenty twelve or twenty thirteen. I think 801 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,239 Speaker 1: it was south By, But there was a when you 802 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,279 Speaker 1: opened up for g on which tour was that that 803 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 1: was the uh you had like inflatables and the uh 804 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,680 Speaker 1: these things happened to her and I had these big 805 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,279 Speaker 1: ass palm tree and yes, yeah on the boogie board. 806 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:36,200 Speaker 1: Yeah you came out on the boogie board. Yeah yeah, yep, yep. 807 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,680 Speaker 1: So yeah, it's just I mean, congrats. The tours March March. 808 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,839 Speaker 1: How many dates? I think it's like thirty dates. Oh shit, 809 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,359 Speaker 1: you're out here, bro, come on, man, man, it's in 810 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:46,960 Speaker 1: a while because it's what been at least two and 811 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,480 Speaker 1: a half three years on the road. Three Yeah, at 812 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,319 Speaker 1: this point, it's been three and a half years since 813 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,560 Speaker 1: I've been on the road, which is kind of like 814 00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:58,240 Speaker 1: a fucking time for text portal. You know, it's almost 815 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,799 Speaker 1: like my career. I'm doing have like a career, I'm 816 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,360 Speaker 1: doing my thing. It's like going, then COVID happens and 817 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,120 Speaker 1: fast forward three it's like three years up and disappeared. 818 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,840 Speaker 1: Do you know do you find it easier now? Because like, 819 00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:13,600 Speaker 1: you're someone who came up with a cult following. I 820 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:17,120 Speaker 1: feel like sometimes when you have as much success as 821 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,600 Speaker 1: you had with a record, it's easy to kind of 822 00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,960 Speaker 1: deviate away from like those people you were talking about. Yeah, 823 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,400 Speaker 1: did you feel like I've seen it happen with a 824 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,759 Speaker 1: lot of artists, right, Like I don't want say names, 825 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,120 Speaker 1: but you know people who just had huge records, but 826 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 1: they kind of came up a certain way. Did you 827 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:33,799 Speaker 1: feel like it was a little bit harder for you 828 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:38,359 Speaker 1: to kind of super serve your like og hardcore fan. Yeah, 829 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,120 Speaker 1: you know what It's like, this is a perfect analogy. 830 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,799 Speaker 1: It's like, imagine you throw a party, right and you're 831 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:44,680 Speaker 1: all there and it's a party and everybody loves it. 832 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,200 Speaker 1: We have this, we have this Kyle super Duver Gang 833 00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,640 Speaker 1: party going on, and it just those people are there, 834 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:54,280 Speaker 1: and then somebody leaks to address and then twenty thousand 835 00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,480 Speaker 1: motherfuckers show up and then you and now all these 836 00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:58,839 Speaker 1: people are in the party and you have to pour 837 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,440 Speaker 1: all of them drinks, and like it seems like to 838 00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:05,040 Speaker 1: your core fan base, like, oh, maybe he doesn't care 839 00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:06,960 Speaker 1: about us as much, because when they come to the 840 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,279 Speaker 1: Kyle concert now now the same way you said the 841 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,080 Speaker 1: RAMS bros Are coming to the Rams game. When they're there, 842 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:15,240 Speaker 1: now their shoulder to shoulder with the Kyle brothers fucking 843 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:20,160 Speaker 1: going exactly. So I think that it's not that it 844 00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,600 Speaker 1: was hard to super serve them. I mean, well, it 845 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:24,279 Speaker 1: was because there's yellow tape. I got to go through 846 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,279 Speaker 1: with the records I'm releasing and all this shit. So 847 00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:29,359 Speaker 1: I think it was a little harder to connect with them, 848 00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,759 Speaker 1: just them. But that's what's so great about to play 849 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,959 Speaker 1: something right now. I feel like I'm back to like, Hey, 850 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:37,759 Speaker 1: what's up y'all? Oh my god, that was a blur 851 00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,640 Speaker 1: at COVID all that shit. Like I love y'all and 852 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:42,600 Speaker 1: I love you guys for letting me just make music 853 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:44,799 Speaker 1: and be me. I'm so ready to do that with 854 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,520 Speaker 1: y'all again, you know what I mean. That's dope. Well 855 00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:49,759 Speaker 1: there it is. Man, appreciate you pulling up. Go get go, 856 00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:51,839 Speaker 1: go check out the album. Check out the album. It's 857 00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,560 Speaker 1: not so bad. It's out right now. Tom Holland a 858 00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,520 Speaker 1: nice guy. Tom Holland is that's my homie, shouts out Tom. 859 00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,839 Speaker 1: He is the coolest. That's like your peeps. Huh that's 860 00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:02,440 Speaker 1: my dog. Yeah, he's great. Like I hang out with 861 00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,080 Speaker 1: him and in Day at the same time. You know what, 862 00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,600 Speaker 1: I actually only kicked it with in Day once. It 863 00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,239 Speaker 1: was at his It was at his uh. He had 864 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,840 Speaker 1: like it was like a movie. After it was like 865 00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:15,719 Speaker 1: a really really tiny, little gathering, but I got like 866 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:19,320 Speaker 1: super lit so nice. I think I embarrassed myself. Actually, 867 00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:20,759 Speaker 1: I think I like tried to get on a table 868 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,080 Speaker 1: and perform my sp or some ship. It was like, Yo, 869 00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,319 Speaker 1: you guys want me to do I spy because I'm here, Yeah, 870 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,160 Speaker 1: do it. Hey, I'll be here by the way. The 871 00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,000 Speaker 1: song right, yeah, y'all know the song. Yeah. I was 872 00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,640 Speaker 1: like smashed, so yeah, but now he's he's great. Every 873 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,600 Speaker 1: time I'm in London, he shows me a good time. 874 00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:40,239 Speaker 1: And like at a best Buy in Atlanta, no way. Yeah. 875 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:41,960 Speaker 1: She was in line in front of me and she 876 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,080 Speaker 1: had this really tiny, little white security guard but he 877 00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,719 Speaker 1: looked like he's a murderer. Yeah that's that real. That's 878 00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:48,960 Speaker 1: how you know you're cracking. Security guard looked like a 879 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,239 Speaker 1: normal bro. But I was like, uh. I was like 880 00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:54,120 Speaker 1: I just finished like euphoria and I was like, hey, 881 00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,719 Speaker 1: he's a day I fuck. Would you like? Yeah, they 882 00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:58,600 Speaker 1: should give you a fucking Emmy for that ship, you know. 883 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:00,239 Speaker 1: She was like, oh, thank you, thank you. I was like, 884 00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,160 Speaker 1: all right, we'll go buy your hard drive. Yeah yeah, 885 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:04,799 Speaker 1: there it is. Man. Shout out to the Hoummy Kyle. 886 00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,719 Speaker 1: Go check the album out. Bulet Cash Show boom, Let's 887 00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:08,400 Speaker 1: Gone fire,