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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: It's Friday, everybody.

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Speaker 3: Friday edition of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

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Speaker 3: starts right now.

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Speaker 2: We've got a lot for you today.

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Speaker 3: We'll take you off into the weekend with all of

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Speaker 3: the stuff you need to know, and I'm gonna.

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Speaker 2: Have some fun the processes we always do.

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Speaker 3: New York City Mayor Eric Adams says they can't take

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Speaker 3: any more legal immigrants, no more room at the end,

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Speaker 3: so to speak. We will get into what's going on

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Speaker 3: there a little later.

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Speaker 2: On the program.

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Speaker 3: Jason al Dean continues to get a lot of attention

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Speaker 3: and a lot of people standing up for him and

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Speaker 3: his music.

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Speaker 2: In this process.

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Speaker 3: The controversy that seems entirely manufactured by the left. Will

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Speaker 3: bring you the latest salvo they are firing at him

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Speaker 3: on this one. And we've also got Miranda Divine with

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Speaker 3: us at the bottom of this hour. She is the

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Speaker 3: author of Laptop from Hell. She is a New York

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Speaker 3: Post columnist and expert on all things Hunter Biden. After

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Speaker 3: the whistleblower situation yesterday, Oh Clay, did you see because

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Speaker 3: we talked about this without even knowing it. The blackout

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Speaker 3: on IRS whistleblower content across the major media outlets was

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Speaker 3: just even if you expect it to see it happen,

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Speaker 3: it's pretty amazing that they're just like, yeah. And the

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Speaker 3: other one I love is so called So many of

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Speaker 3: these media outlets say so called whistleblower, Well they were

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Speaker 3: at the IRS for many years. They're decorated IRS officers

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Speaker 3: who say that there was a problem with this that's

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Speaker 3: called the whistleblower. Just because you don't like the whistle

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Speaker 3: doesn't mean that it's not a whistleblower, if you know

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Speaker 3: what I mean, just because you don't like what the

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Speaker 3: subject matter may be. But we'll talk to Miranda Divine

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Speaker 3: about that one. But you call it yesterday, You're like,

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Speaker 3: how many people even know about this that are seeing

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Speaker 3: at a New York Times audience. Well, if if it

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Speaker 3: just this case, they probably don't know at all because

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Speaker 2: And that's that's that.

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Speaker 3: But the big news today, which we want to dive into,

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Speaker 3: is we've been discussing when will these trials of Trump occur,

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Speaker 3: and we've been going back and forth on will it

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Speaker 3: happen before or after the election, because that obviously will

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Speaker 3: have really major implications for the election, and some people

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Speaker 3: would even say for the country, we are in a

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Speaker 3: crazy period here. Well, Clay, Judge Eileen Cannon has set

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Speaker 3: May twenty twenty four for the trial date for the

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Speaker 3: document case, the one about mar A Lago document holding.

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Speaker 3: So she set the trial date for May. It's a

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Speaker 3: bit of a ways off, could still change. What are

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Speaker 3: your biggest takeaways in thought on this one right now?

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Speaker 4: So, first of all, to be to be honest this morning,

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Speaker 4: because I've said it on the show. I was surprised

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Speaker 4: that she said it on May twenty fourth, So let's

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Speaker 4: contextualize where that sets. The nominee for the Republican for

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Speaker 4: the Republican primaries will have been selected by the time

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Speaker 4: this trial would begin.

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Speaker 5: And frankly, remember.

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Speaker 4: I believe the New York City I'm not sure the

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Speaker 4: exact trial date, but it's in March for the you know,

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Speaker 4: bogus bookkeeping felony that they charged New York City did

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Speaker 4: New York State. So in theory, you would have Trump

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Speaker 4: on trial March, April, May, June, and July of twenty

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Speaker 4: So there is a little bit of a I would say,

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Speaker 4: whether May twenty four will end up occurring. I actually

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Speaker 4: very difficult for this DC charges in the event that

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Speaker 4: before the election. Now, maybe we'll see exactly how this

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Speaker 4: all plays out big picture. I think that Trump has

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Speaker 4: a very good chance to beat the charges in South

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Speaker 4: listening to us Buck that would love to be on

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Speaker 4: that jury and would as a juror negate any opportunity

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Speaker 4: they believe that these are bogus political charges. And that's frankly,

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Speaker 4: if I were seated on a jury. Have you ever

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Speaker 2: Buck, No, I was gonna excuse for very quickly.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so I've never been on a jury either. I've

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Speaker 5: But I almost got seated in that case.

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Speaker 4: And what's so fascinating about it is really the jury

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Speaker 4: selection is every bit as important as the actual trial itself,

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Speaker 4: because when you are selecting that jury, as a skilled lawyer,

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Speaker 4: I think it would be almost imposis for a diehard

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Speaker 4: to negate the trial, which Trump. If it's a hung jury,

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Speaker 4: that doesn't mean he's not guilty. It means they can't

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Speaker 4: come to a verdict, which Trump, I think would take

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Speaker 5: So I'm looking.

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Speaker 4: Ahead, but that's what I immediately thinks. I start to

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Speaker 3: So that's I think on the legal component of it.

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Speaker 3: On the political reality that we now face, you have

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Speaker 3: DeSantis campaign because they just haven't seen the gap closing

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Speaker 3: it's early. That's their message. But on the political side

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Speaker 3: who the Republican nominee is, and he may very well

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Speaker 3: be assuming it is Trump facing federal felony criminal charges

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Speaker 3: Atlanta four criminal trials Clay, Yes, of the president. I mean,

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Speaker 3: They're setting it for two weeks. So the possibility here

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Speaker 3: Does Biden have enough energy? Is he a smart guy?

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Speaker 2: Is he selling out the country. They don't care.

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Speaker 3: This is how they think they win what we are

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Speaker 3: seeing right now, using the legal system to do their

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I saw where was it?

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Speaker 4: Mediaite said that I had a crazy, wacky conspiracy theory.

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Speaker 4: They wrote a huge story about how crazy it was,

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Speaker 4: and people have been jumping on this, and I think

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Speaker 4: To me that this is all politics. And the politics

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Speaker 4: there's only one rational basis under which the Democrats are moving, right,

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Speaker 4: I said, Buck, there are three possibilities here. One is

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Speaker 4: can't even finish that argument. All of you know that's

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Speaker 4: the window. The other one is they desperately fear Trump.

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Speaker 4: This is what some diehard Trump supporters want to believe.

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Speaker 4: But I just don't buy it. They desperately fear Trump

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Speaker 2: We've seen that.

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Speaker 3: To me, that is what the data shows, the rally

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Speaker 4: That doesn't make sense. They're not going to take him

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Speaker 4: I haven't seen anything, any sign that things are going

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Speaker 4: they're terrified of Trump, they want him out, and this

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Speaker 4: they meaning the Democrat Party have made the calculation that

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Speaker 4: Trump being charged strengthens him in the Republican primary race,

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Speaker 4: makes him the nominee, and they want to run, whether

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Speaker 4: it's Biden or someone else. But I think to your

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Speaker 4: don't think Biden has the physical ability. I think it's

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Speaker 4: gonna be hard to argue that he does. You're even

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Speaker 4: think they'll fetterman him and do whatever. They wheel him

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Speaker 4: They don't care, but keep going. And so the only

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Speaker 4: They don't think that Trump can win in twenty four,

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Speaker 4: which is why they want to run against him.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'll say this there.

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Speaker 3: You will not come across if you think about this

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Speaker 2: And now the other side of this is there a

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Speaker 3: Doesn't matter because he's going to find a way through

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Speaker 4: The only analogy I can think of, Buck, and this

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Speaker 1: They're here to shed light on the truth every day. Clay,

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Speaker 1: Travis and buck Sexton. Welcome back in Clay Travis, buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton show. Let me get a quick hit to some

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Speaker 1: what do you think of the latest schedule here with

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Speaker 6: I think, Clay, what you said is dead on. This

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Speaker 6: Democrat strategy is very, very simple here. They want to

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Speaker 6: general and it's going to work. Republicans have got to

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Speaker 6: four elections. Okay, wake up. If Trump wins the primary,

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Speaker 6: we will have Kamala Harris's president. Okay, any other candidate, Well,

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Speaker 4: The last four elections, I mean he won twenty sixteen, so.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the last three have not been good. Trump was

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Speaker 4: It's obviously Friday. We're going to take a bunch of

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Speaker 5: I don't see any.

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Speaker 3: Other option other than those three, and can I We

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Speaker 2: Clay everywhere I go. Everywhere I go, and.

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Speaker 3: People talk to me about politics, friends of mine, family members,

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Speaker 3: I'll just bring this up because JFK, a JFK's grandson,

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Speaker 7: Hello, how are you guys? I just find it astonishing

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Speaker 4: No doubt, And I just want to hammer home what

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Speaker 4: their entire job against Joe Biden, Miranda. Any one of

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Speaker 4: those three would have been considered, I think fairly a

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Speaker 4: blockbuster revelation. They all landed in the last forty eight hours.

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Speaker 4: And to your point, the New York Times, the Washington Post, MSNBC,

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Speaker 4: and CNN are mostly choosing not to cover it.

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Speaker 5: That's right.

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Speaker 7: The IRIS whistleblowers, they barely covered, but only to run

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Speaker 7: the Democrat line that these guys are so called whistleblowers

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Speaker 7: and it's just a misunderstanding between investigators and prosecutors, which

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Speaker 7: is very common, happens all the time, and these guys

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Speaker 7: are just disagruntled. So they only covered that to bury it.

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Speaker 7: And as far as the revelations that you just said,

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Speaker 7: bombshell from Chuck Grasley yesterday, this FD ten twenty three document,

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Speaker 7: which is basically a confidential human source, trusted, credible ten

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Speaker 7: year source of the FBI, who is paid by the FBI,

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Speaker 7: is talking to the owner of Barisma, a guy called

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Speaker 7: Lachevsky who was a buddy of Hunter Biden, who was

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Speaker 7: paying Hunter Biden a million dollars a year to sit

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Speaker 7: on the board at the time that he was a

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Speaker 7: crackhead and who went hunting and fishing with Hunter Biden

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Speaker 7: at his Norwegian hideaway. This is the guy who is

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Speaker 7: saying to the confidential human source that I have paid

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Speaker 7: off the two Biden's five million each. I was forced

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Speaker 7: to do that. I had to put Hunter, you know,

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Speaker 7: bring him into the company. Joe asked me to do that,

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Speaker 7: and in return he was going to fire the prosecutor,

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Speaker 7: Viktor Shoken, who the same prosecutor as he said that

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Speaker 7: in twenty eighteen. Joe Biden is there on video on

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Speaker 7: stage boasting that he fired. And yet only last week

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Speaker 7: we had the Washington Post come out yet again with

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Speaker 7: a fact check saying, oh, no, it's not true that

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Speaker 7: the prosecutor was investigating Barisma at the time he was fired.

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Speaker 7: He was fired because he was corrupt. Victor Shoken was

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Speaker 7: pursuing an aggressive investigation of Barisma, that's on the record,

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Speaker 7: and he had just issued a warrant to seize all

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Speaker 7: the property of Lazevski, the guy who says that he

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Speaker 7: was paying bribes to the Bidens. And a month later,

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Speaker 7: Joe Biden gets him fired, and the proof of the

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Speaker 7: pudding is the fact that the replacement prosecutor didn't do anything,

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Speaker 7: didn't pursue any investigations against this corrupt energy company or

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Speaker 7: its owners. Lazevsky he got off scot free, So the

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Speaker 7: firing of Shokun worked for him.

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Speaker 3: Miranda at this point, and we're speaking Miranda Devine. Her

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Speaker 3: book is Laptop from Hall. You should all check it out.

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Speaker 3: What are we what are we still trying to find out?

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Speaker 3: I mean, it does feel like we know more than

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Speaker 3: enough to.

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Speaker 2: Know what happened here?

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Speaker 3: Is it just in your mind now a question of

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Speaker 3: tracking down It always feels like there's more money than

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Speaker 3: what has been officially accounted for here, at least in

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Speaker 3: the reporting. Is that Is that the big the big

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Speaker 3: question here? I mean, is it is it tying Joe

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Speaker 3: Biden himself to these ill gotten gains? What are you

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Speaker 3: looking at for for the next phase of this story?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I think that the focus has been

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Speaker 7: by the Republicans, uncertainly by us of the post has

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Speaker 7: been on Joe Biden and his connection. Clearly he's lied

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Speaker 7: to the American people when you said he didn't know

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Speaker 7: anything about Hunter Biden's overseas business dealings, and and so

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Speaker 7: I think one of the next stages is going to

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Speaker 7: be Devon Archer, who is Hunter Biden's former business partner,

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Speaker 7: who's heading to jail and really has nothing to lose.

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Speaker 7: He's going to be testifying. He was supposed to be

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Speaker 7: testifying on Monday. That's mysteriously been changed. They're waiting for

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Speaker 7: some documents I think to become available, but that he'll

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Speaker 7: be on next week at some point. And he knows

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Speaker 7: about Joe Biden's involvement, in particular, he was involved in

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Speaker 7: this Ukraine, the entire Ukraine. He was on the board

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Speaker 7: of Barrisma with Hunter. Hunter described him as his best

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Speaker 7: friend in business. Devon Archer went to the White House

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Speaker 7: and met with Joe Biden shortly before he and Hunter

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Speaker 7: joined the board. And he will be able to tell us,

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Speaker 7: among other things, how Joe Biden used to basically tune

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Speaker 7: in on the Hunter would put him on the speaker

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Speaker 7: phone when he was having meetings with various prospective clients,

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Speaker 7: just to prove that he could get his you know,

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Speaker 7: the Vice president on the line anytime and so, and

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Speaker 7: he'll have other things to say. So I think that

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Speaker 7: will be interesting. And then there are other wiskle blowers

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Speaker 7: that are coming through, and every time you know, the

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Speaker 7: whistle blowers speak, I think that pricks the conscience of

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Speaker 7: other people in the FBI or in the IRS, or

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Speaker 7: in any of these agencies who know that there's been

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Speaker 7: a cover up. And that's how we got this FD

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Speaker 7: ten twenty three form because a whistleblower came forward to

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Speaker 7: Chuck Grasley. Otherwise Christopher Ray would have got away with

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Speaker 7: He lied to Chuck Grasley and James Coma because he

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Speaker 7: said it didn't even exist. And then finally, when they

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Speaker 7: were dragged kicking and screaming they to show the document

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Speaker 7: to James Coma in a sort of kill them, they

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Speaker 7: wouldn't hand it over. They redacted so much out of

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Speaker 7: it and just gratuitous things that just serve to protect

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Speaker 7: the bidens. For instance, the FBI originally redacted the line

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Speaker 7: where's Lazewski says how dumb hunter Biden is? He says

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Speaker 7: he's dumber than his dog. So why would you redact

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Speaker 7: to that? The FBI saying, Oh, it's to protect you know,

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Speaker 7: sources and methods. It's got nothing to do. They also

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Speaker 7: redacted the line where it says that Lazevsky was recording

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Speaker 7: Hunter and Joe Biden seventeen recordings that he kept for insurance,

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Speaker 7: and that was taken out as well. Now, I don't

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Speaker 7: know why you would do that unless you're just protecting

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Speaker 7: Joe Biden.

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Speaker 4: Last question for you, Miranda, and you've killed it reporting

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Speaker 4: this since since October when this first went public, and

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Speaker 4: we've got just a short time here for a response,

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Speaker 4: But over fifty percent of Democrats still believe the Russian

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Speaker 4: disinformation lie associated with the laptop. How frustrating is it

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Speaker 4: to you that this probably is the most successful disinformation

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Speaker 4: campaign in American modern political history, that the Democrats have

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Speaker 4: been able to pretend that this isn't true, and that

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Speaker 4: huge majorities of their base still believe it's a total lie.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's really it's dispariting, but it's frightening, and it

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Speaker 7: just has exposed that they're half the media, and that's

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Speaker 7: the prestige media took about New York Times, Washington Posts

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Speaker 7: are in bed with the intelligence agencies, with the deep state,

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Speaker 7: with the Democrats, and they are refusing to do their

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Speaker 7: job as journalists. And I don't know how you get

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Speaker 7: the message across to that half of the country that

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Speaker 7: they're being lied to. And Kept in the Dark.

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Speaker 3: Randovine. Everybody check out laptop from how Miranda. I always

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Speaker 4: Well again Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. We are rolling

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Speaker 4: through the Friday edition of the program. If there was

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Speaker 5: Justice in media?

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Speaker 4: The woman you just heard from Miranda Devine, New York

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Speaker 4: Post columnist who was involved in breaking that one hundred

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Speaker 4: percent accurate story surrounding Hunter Biden's laptop in October of

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty, she would get every journalism award. I'm not

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Speaker 4: and Woodward in Bernstein's if you want to know how

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Speaker 4: much the world has changed, Basically, what Joe Biden is

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Speaker 4: now accused of, credibly from multiple different angles, is infinitely

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Speaker 4: more significant than anything that Richard Nixon was accused of

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Speaker 4: relating to water Day.

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Speaker 2: I mean he's accused of.

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Speaker 3: I think, isn't bribery one of the only crimes that

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Speaker 3: is mentioned in am Am? I right in thinking bribery's

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Speaker 3: mentioned specific. Hold on, let me make sure I get

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Speaker 3: into this.

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Speaker 4: Well so what I ran it through it, But I

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Speaker 4: think it's worth reiterating. Just in the last basically twenty

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Speaker 4: four to forty eight hours we have had it, the

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Speaker 4: FBI come out and admit, yes, we think the laptop

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Speaker 4: was all real.

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Speaker 2: Bribery is in the Constitution. Yeah, Article two, Section four.

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Speaker 3: You shall be the president vice president of all civil

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Speaker 3: officers that I'd say should be removed from office on

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Speaker 3: a peachment for and conviction of treason, bribe and other

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Speaker 3: high crimes and his demeanors. Bribery's number two, folks, right

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Speaker 3: after treason. Bribery's a big deal because it undermines the

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Speaker 3: entire system. And I mean Hunter was basically a carve

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Speaker 3: out for bribes to Joe Biden. That is what we've seen.

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Speaker 4: But this FBI, so you had the FBI, we knew

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Speaker 4: the laptop was real. Then you have this ten to

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Speaker 4: twenty three I think is the form name FBI that

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Speaker 4: was released directly saying that Joe Biden got five million

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Speaker 4: dollars and Hunter Biden got five million dollars to fire

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Speaker 4: the prosecutor who was pursuing a case against Barisma. And

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Speaker 4: then you have Joe Biden bragging in twenty eighteen to

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Speaker 4: a crowd that he got the Ukrainian prosecutor fired. And

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Speaker 4: I asked this question I think yesterday on the show

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Speaker 4: too Buck. Can anyone ever remember a United States political

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Speaker 4: official bragging about getting a foreign prosecutor fired?

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Speaker 5: That is so outrageous. Think about what we would do

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Speaker 5: what I said yesterday.

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Speaker 4: I think about what we would believe if a foreign

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Speaker 4: politician demanded that a prosecutor in the United States be

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Speaker 4: removed from a United States case, in exchange for favorable

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Speaker 4: political treatment from a foreign adversary, people would lose their minds, rightly,

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Speaker 4: so that foreign nationals were determining who was allowed to

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Speaker 4: investigate criminal misconduct inside the United States. So this is

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Speaker 4: a big deal by itself, and then you add on

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Speaker 4: that revelation, and then you add on the IRS whistleblowers.

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Speaker 4: So Miranda's made a big deal for a long time.

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Speaker 4: She's been coming on with us for a couple of years.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 4: Buck about saying, hey, we're not trying to focus on

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Speaker 4: Hunter Biden because he was clearly a crackhead. You know,

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Speaker 4: Philendering nincome poop, right, But Joe Biden was involved in

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Speaker 4: Hunter Biden's business dealings. There's now ample evidence of that

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Speaker 4: directly himself, and also his Justice Department has now covered

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Speaker 4: up for Hunter, which is what the IRS whistleblowers came

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Speaker 4: out and said they were tipping off Hunter and his

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Speaker 4: attorneys to win they might be considering rating his premises.

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Speaker 4: They managed to keep him from having to talk to

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Speaker 4: the agents, they allowed the statute of limitations to run out,

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Speaker 4: and they still gave him a sweetheart deal. Which is

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Speaker 4: why that judge next week cannot and should not sign

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Speaker 4: off on this plea agreement. But all of these make

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Speaker 4: Watergate look like Jaywalking. I mean, it's crazy, all of

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Speaker 4: them lined up together. Just in the last twenty four

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Speaker 4: to forty eight hours we have gotten all these revelations.

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Speaker 4: We'll continue to break all this down for you. We'll

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Speaker 4: take your calls. What do you guys think about this?

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Speaker 4: Eight hundred and two two two eight A two