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Speaker 1: John Middlecoff three and out podcast Live after Chiefs Lions.

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Speaker 1: If I would have said that four years ago, they're like, wait,

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs just won the Super Bowl and they're playing

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Speaker 1: Chiefs are rower and to one, Lions are one and zero.

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Speaker 1: Jared Goff Lions kind of getting their swag back. And

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Speaker 1: dive into the game. Incredible win by the Detroit Lions. Listen,

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Speaker 1: was it the most beautiful game ever? Who cares? It's

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Speaker 1: NFL football, it's back defending champs and the Lions win.

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Speaker 1: And a couple things really jump out to me first

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Speaker 1: red flagged. But he showed up, And you could argue

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Speaker 1: or could just be I don't know how good his

430
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Speaker 1: team is. And one of my takes really this offseason

431
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 1: was I think mac Jones is gonna get everyone fired. Now,

432
00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,880
Speaker 1: if you're a dire Patriot fan, maybe you push back

433
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,480
Speaker 1: and say he's done enough to try to get the

434
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Speaker 1: Shula record, that the Crafts are gonna let it play

435
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Speaker 1: out no matter what next year, if you go seven

436
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 1: to ten, they honestly could be solid and go seven

437
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,920
Speaker 1: to ten. The division's really hard, you know, what do

438
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 1: they How do they win there? They have to have

439
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 1: an elite defense, They got to be really good at

440
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 1: running the ball and have like Juju Smith go off.

441
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,439
Speaker 1: That's kind of that's kind of what they're doing. Kendrick Bourne,

442
00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,880
Speaker 1: I don't know. There were some rumors that Zeke looks

443
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,200
Speaker 1: pretty good, but this would be a pretty big ball

444
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,880
Speaker 1: roomer for Bill. Everyone's picking the Eagles. It's Tom Brady,

445
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,359
Speaker 1: you know, just honoring Tom. The place is gonna be

446
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,440
Speaker 1: going nuts. Bill's gonna be on one pissed off because

447
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,919
Speaker 1: his girlfriend help I bet who knows. Maybe she she

448
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,320
Speaker 1: did not break up with Bill Belichick. Belichick broke up

449
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,399
Speaker 1: with her, So maybe he's feeling some freedom and just

450
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 1: ready to roll. But this is a fantastic game. This

451
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,199
Speaker 1: is one of those games, and we talk about it

452
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,959
Speaker 1: with Stucky. You just kind of like dogs early like,

453
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,360
Speaker 1: of course the Patriots aren't as good as the Eagles,

454
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,479
Speaker 1: but things get weird and you have to wonder does

455
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,920
Speaker 1: Bill have some trick plays? Do they run some fakes

456
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 1: on on special teams? Because I think they would have

457
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 1: to do that to beat Philly. But this is another

458
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 1: game that I can't wait to watch, and last but

459
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:10,359
Speaker 1: not least, we'll be going live recording to pod with

460
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:14,920
Speaker 1: Coward after this game forever. And I understood why they

461
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 1: did it right the two biggest brands, well, I guess

462
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:19,679
Speaker 1: the biggest brand in the NFL is the Cowboys and

463
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:23,400
Speaker 1: the biggest market is New York, so the Cowboys and Giants.

464
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 1: It felt like Sunday Night Football, which is the biggest

465
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:30,640
Speaker 1: television show in America. It was just always Dallas Giants,

466
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Speaker 1: either in Dallas or in New York on Sunday Night Football.

467
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,080
Speaker 1: And a lot of those years is like, ah, the

468
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,439
Speaker 1: Giants suck or the Cowboys or average, why do we

469
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 1: have to watch this? Now? Once you get closer and

470
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,399
Speaker 1: you're in the business. You kind of understand, Like I

471
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 1: get it from a number standpoint, because even if both

472
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:51,480
Speaker 1: teams are you know, six and eleven, if it's Week one,

473
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 1: that game is going to do enormous numbers. Now it

474
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,400
Speaker 1: feels real, there's like substance behind it. These two teams

475
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Speaker 1: are good. I'm pick the Cowboys to win the East.

476
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be excellent. And I think the

477
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 1: Giants aren't just gonna back up last year. I think

478
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 1: they're gonna look dramatically better. I think we're gonna see

479
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,639
Speaker 1: a step from Daniel Jones. I think Waller's gonna have,

480
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 1: you know, just a huge impact on that offense. Saquan's

481
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 1: clearly motivated because he wants a long term contract. And listen,

482
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 1: I'm not pro paying running backs, but if byve midseason

483
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:25,399
Speaker 1: Saquan's dominating, not just on the ground, which he always has,

484
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,199
Speaker 1: but is very productive in the passing game, you know

485
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 1: the Mars will want to take care of their guy.

486
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 1: I could see if things are going well them extending

487
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 1: him mid season no problem. And I think there are

488
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:36,680
Speaker 1: some rules maybe with the franchise tag, but at the

489
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 1: end of the season, you know what I mean, they

490
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 1: will want to take care of this player and this

491
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 1: game is legit. I mean, think about Mike McCarthy has

492
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,120
Speaker 1: been one of the most polarizing coaches in the NFL

493
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 1: what the last seven eight years, probably since middle of

494
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,679
Speaker 1: his Green Bay run till now, and then when you

495
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:57,160
Speaker 1: factor in that he essentially fired Kellen Moore, who gets

496
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,879
Speaker 1: to go to Justin Herbert and he takes over play calling.

497
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 1: And think about this, I think Justin Herbert's gonna be

498
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:06,879
Speaker 1: an MVP level player. So what happens if earlier in

499
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,920
Speaker 1: the day Herbert throws for four touchdowns and Kellen Moore

500
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 1: looks awesome, It's like, well, what's Mike gonna look like?

501
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 1: With Dak Dak's saying all off season studied my interceptions,

502
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:18,679
Speaker 1: I'm gonna cut it down. We're gonna I think I

503
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 1: saw a quote today, I've mastered the offense or I've

504
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 1: never felt more comfortable. There's a ton of pressure on

505
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,639
Speaker 1: this Cowboys because every year there is because they're kind

506
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 1: of like the Yankees. Their fan base is so big.

507
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 1: Everyone bets on them. But anyone that watches football like

508
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 1: this is a real team, the squad. Every time I

509
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 1: see Jason Garrett, I just sorry I got distracted. I

510
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 1: don't understand, like part of being on TV is being entertaining,

511
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:47,119
Speaker 1: and somehow NBC takes all these guys who are just

512
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 1: never gonna be entertaining. Tony Dungee remarkable human being, character

513
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,400
Speaker 1: relative to most of us in a different stratus here,

514
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 1: no one wants to watch them on television. Jason Garrett,

515
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,120
Speaker 1: who is asking for this guy to have a micro

516
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 1: on TV? I remember Drew Brees when they hired him

517
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 1: to do NBC. I was like, guys, he is not

518
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,400
Speaker 1: gonna be good. What happened? They fired him a year later?

519
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 1: I just don't understand when I look at my TV

520
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,679
Speaker 1: and there's Jason Garrett breaking down stuff like I just

521
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 1: who's asking for this? But clearly not Jerry Jones when

522
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 1: he sent him packing. Now he's got Mike McCarthy. If

523
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,120
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy ends up on NBC in two years, when

524
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 1: he gets fired for Dion Sanders, I'm gonna lose it.

525
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 1: I might boycott NBC because I don't think I could

526
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 1: take looking up my TV and seeing McCarthy and Jason

527
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,919
Speaker 1: Garrett standing next to each other telling me about some

528
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 1: Isaiah Pachaco run. I might I have a mental breakdown.

529
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,160
Speaker 1: But this Giants Cowboy game, I can't wait. Let's get

530
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Speaker 1: to this. My friends a Guinness, They're a big part

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Speaker 1: of the show now. I love Guinness. I've been a

532
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 1: loyal Guinness drinker for a long time. Love a good

533
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 1: Irish car bomb as well. But I think the Cardinals

534
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 1: are going to be god awful. I think they're really

535
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 1: gonna be one of the worst teams we've seen in

536
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:04,119
Speaker 1: recent memory, even that Dolphins team that was ironically tanking

537
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 1: for Tua and then they won some games. Ultimately, it

538
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,160
Speaker 1: turns out you would have wanted Joe Burrow. They ended

539
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,159
Speaker 1: up taking two anyway, and if they could do it

540
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 1: over again, they would have taken Herbert. But that's another story.

541
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Speaker 1: We'll get into it here in a minute. That I

542
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 1: think the Cardinals have a chance to win less than

543
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 1: three games and just be one of the most atrocious

544
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 1: teams in the league. That being said, weird things happen

545
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 1: in Week one and every year in the first couple

546
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 1: of weeks, you're like, how did that happen? Last year

547
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 1: Bears beat the forty nine ers, they the worst record

548
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 1: in the league the rest of the season. Hell, two

549
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 1: weeks later, the Niners lost to the Denver Broncos SO

550
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 1: teams early in the season, there's a result that you'll

551
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 1: look back on in December you're like, how the hell

552
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 1: did that happen? Pretty simple. Early in the year, you

553
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 1: don't see it coming right. Just teams, it's hard to

554
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 1: prepare new schemes, new players. Just everyone thinks they have hope.

555
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 1: Week one, Week two, right, you could play high school football,

556
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 1: you could play junior high basketball. The second game of

557
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 1: the season, you do not know you suck. By three

558
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 1: months in you realize you might start mailing it in.

559
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 1: But week one you get the team's best shot. And

560
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: here's the thing with the Cardinals. No one has any

561
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 1: clue what they're gonna look like offensively or defensively, and

562
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 1: they do have some capable NFL players. Washington has been

563
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 1: weird all offseason. I actually listen, I think Washington is

564
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 1: gonna compete like they did last year, to be right

565
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 1: around eight to nine wins. That they're not gonna be

566
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 1: bad now. Ultimately, I think it will lead to Ron

567
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 1: Rivera losing his job, But I think the Cardinals are

568
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 1: gonna win. My bold take of the Week brought to

569
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 1: you by Gutnis is the Arizona Cardinals win Week one.

570
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 1: I was thinking about hedging it with either the Cardinals

571
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 1: or the Rams, because I think the Rams are gonna

572
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 1: be terrible too, But like no Hedge, I'm going to

573
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 1: Cardinals and I'm not backing off. I think they are

574
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 1: gonna compete for Caleb Williams and by the end, Caleb

575
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: Williams dad, We'll threaten all the way up till a

576
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 1: sudden players for the draft that he won't come out

577
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 1: because he doesn't want his son to play for Michael Bidwell.

578
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 1: But they win Week one against Washington, and everyone goes,

579
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 1: we need to reassess this, and no, we don't that

580
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 1: they're gonna be terrible, But I got the Cardinals Bold

581
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 1: take of the Week beating Washington Brought to you by Guinness.

582
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Speaker 1: Gather your friends, raise your glasses, and toast to a win.

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Speaker 1: Guinness drought Stout imported by Diagio Beer Company USA, New York,

584
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Speaker 1: New York. Please drink responsibly. Okay, A couple quick things.

585
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Speaker 1: One game that's fascinating because these two players will always

586
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 1: be tied at the hip because they went after each

587
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 1: other in the draft. And that's Tua and Justin Herber,

588
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 1: And let's face it, like it's not even debatable. I'm sorry,

589
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins fan. If they could have a due over,

590
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 1: they would take Justin Herbert over to a Tago Bay Loa.

591
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 1: That's not breaking news here. And the reality is, if

592
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Speaker 1: there was a due over in the draft, which there

593
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 1: never has been in the history of drafts, it would

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Speaker 1: go Joe Burrow Justin Herbert. Then I think it'd be

595
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 1: up for debate where Tua would go. Anytime that Justin

596
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 1: Herbert just got a two hundred million dollar plus one

597
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty million dollar guarantee extension, when it's that

598
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 1: level of player, it's a no brainer. Where Tua, it's like, yeah,

599
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 1: we're not tightening you yet, as they shouldn't because of

600
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,239
Speaker 1: the injuries. Now, Tua is never gonna be as good

601
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 1: as Justin Herbert's just not possible. He doesn't have the

602
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 1: physical gifts, He's not as good of a player. But

603
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Speaker 1: the one thing that he can do to at least

604
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 1: because anytime that you pass on what looks like a

605
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Speaker 1: generational quarterback, who'd you take?

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00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 2: Now?

607
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 1: If you take a quarterback who just stinks, you got

608
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 1: a problem. Ultimately, why the forty nine Ers are getting somewhat.

609
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 1: I don't want to say a pass because the trade

610
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 1: was historically awful, but it doesn't derail them is because

611
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 1: they keep winning games and ultimately they found Brock. Perty

612
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 1: Now we'll see how good Brock is, but last year

613
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: he was dramatically better than anything they've had during Kyle

614
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: Shanan's era. That Tua does not have to be Herbert

615
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 1: or Allen or Mahomes or Lamar or any of the

616
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 1: top guys. He'll never be. He's not that good. But

617
00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 1: can he just be in the crew of Dak Scott

618
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins what Derek Carr was for the Raiders in

619
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Speaker 1: some of his good seasons and Jimmy Garoppolo for the

620
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 1: forty nine ers, because if he can give you that,

621
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Speaker 1: then if you are good enough GM and a good

622
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 1: enough coach, you can build around that. They already have

623
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Speaker 1: a lot of good pieces, obviously an offense, the two

624
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 1: wide receivers Jalen Phillips and Bradley Chubb on defense, like

625
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: they got some pieces to build around that. You can

626
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 1: mitigate the hate and the criticism because you're naturally gonna

627
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 1: get it. And the only question mark is and listen

628
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Speaker 1: I have a ton of respect for anyone that does

629
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Speaker 1: martial arts. Where I grew up in Davis, there was

630
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 1: a place called Rodney's Karate. He had trained with Horace Gracie.

631
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 1: I attempted to go. I didn't really like it. I

632
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 1: didn't have the patience, but not like I would have

633
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 1: been a good fighter, or it didn't really do much

634
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 1: for me because it was hard. I didn't like it.

635
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 1: It wasn't for me, but I knew a lot of

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00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 1: people that did it. The discipline that it takes, how

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00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 1: just it's very impressive. And I obviously went to cal

638
00:32:56,360 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 1: Pauly where Chuck Lydell and Chad Mendez MMA fives. Like

639
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: the discipline it takes to wrestle, to fight, to train,

640
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 1: I can't have any more admiration than anyone that consistently

641
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 1: does that or definitely that is good at it. So

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Speaker 1: I understand to attempting to do something to limit his

643
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Speaker 1: injuries and the his off season plan. Like I understand

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Speaker 1: him trying, because why would you not. I just don't

645
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Speaker 1: think it's gonna work. Because one, when you fight someone,

646
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Speaker 1: whether it be in karate, in any form of martial arts,

647
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 1: in boxing, in MMA, they're a weight classes. Right, Floyd

648
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 1: Mayweather is not fighting George Foreman, just like Chuck Ladell

649
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 1: is not fighting some one hundred and fifty pound guy

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Speaker 1: right where the guys chasing Tua are way bigger than him.

651
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Speaker 1: So he can attempt to limit his concussions and his

652
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Speaker 1: injuries by learning how to fall. But you can't learn

653
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Speaker 1: how to fall when a three hundred and twenty pound

654
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Speaker 1: guy who is an anomaly in the world, like there

655
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 1: aren't many humans like this. You could walk around all

656
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Speaker 1: over America, all over all the countries in the world,

657
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: and you're not gonna find many guys that are three

658
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Speaker 1: hundred and ten pounds that are as strong as these

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Speaker 1: guys and can move like that. They are not growing

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Speaker 1: on trees. They do not just walk around if you

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Speaker 1: just go to a big city. That's not what these

662
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: These people are outliers their strength, their talents, they're just

663
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Speaker 1: physical capabilities. So I struggle to think that this is

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Speaker 1: gonna work out well because Tua got hurt in college.

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00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 1: He's been hurting the pros, and he's not, you know,

666
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Speaker 1: for a little guy, he's not built like Kyler Murray, right,

667
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 1: He's not built like some of these mobile players. Obviously

668
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,280
Speaker 1: some guys that are taller than him, Lamar Jackson, whoever,

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Speaker 1: he's not a runner. I actually see a lot of

670
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Speaker 1: similarities with him and Bryce Young. I like Bryce Young

671
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Speaker 1: the college player a lot more than two of the

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Speaker 1: college player. These are pocket quarterbacks. They're just tiny. Now

673
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: two is bigger than Bryce, but the guy's chasing them

674
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 1: are outweighing them by a large amount. And some of them,

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00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 1: even at three hundred plus pounds, are every bit as fast,

676
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 1: if not faster, And that's a problem. So it'll never

677
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,839
Speaker 1: like they'll always want to redo on that one. But

678
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: Tua can at least keep everyone somewhat silent by just

679
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 1: being a solid player, and he had moments of that

680
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:18,479
Speaker 1: last year. But he's got to stay on the field,

681
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 1: and that's only he can answer that at the end

682
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 1: of the year by avoiding injuries, and that's sometimes that's very,

683
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Speaker 1: very difficult. Another game that I'm fascinated by is just

684
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 1: this Denver Broncos experiment, the Sean Payton and Russell Wilson.

685
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 1: They're playing the Raiders, which obviously classic Raiders. They get

686
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:41,760
Speaker 1: an issue with Chandler Jones where today Chandler was talking

687
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Speaker 1: about them sending a wellness person out and him showing

688
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 1: text met It's just a disaster. It's just when you

689
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 1: get red flat guys, sometimes their issues pop up for you.

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00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 1: There's a ton of pressure on this Raider team, just

691
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: like there's a ton of pressure on the Broncos. They're

692
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Speaker 1: paying the coach a ton of money, They're paying the

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Speaker 1: quarterback a ton of money. I'm just I don't know

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Speaker 1: how that thing's look, but I'm fascinated to watch it.

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00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 1: I'm very excited. And one thing is cool about Week

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Speaker 1: one is I don't care who you're a fan of,

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Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons, Chicago Bears, you name it, the Jets, the Dolphins.

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Speaker 1: There's just a ton of excitement. You just you know,

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Speaker 1: there are a handful of teams that go, we're winning

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Speaker 1: fourteen games to winning the super Bowl, and then there's

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Speaker 1: a lot and this is what makes the NFL so special.

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Speaker 1: There is a large percentage of teams that are like,

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Speaker 1: we can win nine or ten games and be a

704
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 1: playoff team and then anything could happen. Hell, I watched

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Speaker 1: the New York Giants multiple times as wildcards go on

706
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Speaker 1: to end up beating the Patriots, and Tom Brady and

707
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Speaker 1: Bill Belichick so week one, heading into week one, the

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00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:41,399
Speaker 1: entire offseason, so much optimism, so much positive speak out

709
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Speaker 1: of your coach, out of your quarterback. Even I saw

710
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Speaker 1: Matt Stafford today joking about his wife's podcast. It's like, God,

711
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 1: this guy's in a good mood. And then then you

712
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,359
Speaker 1: lose by twenty points, and then that mood changes. I mean,

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00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 1: things dramatically change early in the season when you're not

714
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 1: a good team. But right now it's the funnest part

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Speaker 1: for any fan base because there's hope and we know

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Speaker 1: how powerful that is. And then that last, but not least,

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00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 1: is the Deon Sanders thing. How exciting is it that

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Speaker 1: if you would have told me, or you, or just

719
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,919
Speaker 1: about anyone that likes football, Hey, you want to watch

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00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:20,280
Speaker 1: Colorado Nebraska in twenty twenty two, we would have laughed

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Speaker 1: in your face, like, no chance, what other games are on?

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Speaker 1: We're not watching that. Scott frost Furs, Carl Durrell, those

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Speaker 1: two guys highway robbery legalized criminal activity of what they

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Speaker 1: took from their institutions. They were Carl Durrell, in fairness

725
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 1: to Scott, Carl Durrell was dramatically worse. That was legit

726
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 1: criminal activity. He was making almost four million dollars last year.

727
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Speaker 1: Complete embarrassment. Now it's must watch and it's all prime time.

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Speaker 1: And I was talking to my buddy Tim Kawakami, who's

729
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 1: big opinion columnist, media guy in the Bay Area and

730
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 1: has been is covers the Niners and the Warriors as

731
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:03,479
Speaker 1: well as anyone covers teams in sports, and he's pretty

732
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,879
Speaker 1: good buddies with Jim Harbaugh. And one thing he said

733
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Speaker 1: to me this week is he's like Prime reminds me

734
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 1: of Jim Harball. And the parallel was both make people uncomfortable.

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00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 1: Both do it a little differently that they're just willing

736
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Speaker 1: to talk unlike other coaches talk. Obviously, they're both different

737
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 1: from each other, both NFL pedigree as players, both don't

738
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: need to be coaching, they're just addicted to football and

739
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: both win and I think the other thing they both

740
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 1: have in common is they're both old school. And one

741
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 1: thing I think this works. There's a lot of walks

742
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Speaker 1: of life where old school mindset and just morals and

743
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,280
Speaker 1: ethics and the way that you conduct business are always

744
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 1: going to translate to success. Just like in football, there

745
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 1: are old school characteristics being physical, being tough, practicing hard

746
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 1: always translates to the actual game. And I've said this

747
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 1: before and I'll say it again. No teams tackled to

748
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 1: the ground anymore. No Power five teams do that, and

749
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:08,320
Speaker 1: definitely no NFL teams do that in practice. Deon Sanders

750
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 1: did that all offseason, that stuff Jim Harbaugh used to do,

751
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 1: and I just think he is viewed as something that

752
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,760
Speaker 1: he's kind of not. I mean, this is a football junkie.

753
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,359
Speaker 1: I say it all the time about people that think

754
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 1: they're really big football fans, and listen, I consider myself

755
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 1: that I've dedicated myself to this sport to be my

756
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 1: former income.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: I did it when I worked in college and then

759
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 1: obviously the pros, and then I've done it talking about

760
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 1: football for a decade now on the radio and now

761
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 1: being a full time podcaster. But I'll be the first

762
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Speaker 1: to admit I've been around Pat Hill and college coaches,

763
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 1: and I've been around a ton of NFL people, obviously

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Speaker 1: being on Andy Rees staff, Sean McDermott, Matt Naggi, Doug Peterson,

765
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 1: Douce Staley. I mean, these guys went on to be

766
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 1: head coaches, assistant head coaches, coordinators, and I don't think

767
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 1: you can understand the addiction football guys have for football,

768
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 1: the coaches that they like it like it's impossible to

769
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:09,760
Speaker 1: like anything more. Whatever you're, whatever you like the most,

770
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:13,720
Speaker 1: separate from like your your parents, your wife, your children.

771
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 1: That's the level in which they look at football. And

772
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 1: I think Dion because of his social media presence, and

773
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: I don't think people quite realize dude is a football addict.

774
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 1: And I can't watch them. We can't wait to watch

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Speaker 1: him play. On Saturday morning, I've already thought, like, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna get up a little early, I'm gonna bang

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00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 1: out a workout, I'm gonna have breakfast and everything before

778
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 1: the game even comes on. I'm building my morning and

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00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 1: really my day, Like, hey, we need to get some

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Speaker 1: couches and stuff for the new house. We need to

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00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 1: get It's like, yeah, let's do that. In the afternoon,

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Speaker 1: I gotta watch Prime Coach against Matt Ruhle, so very

783
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:54,399
Speaker 1: very exciting and there's nothing like when you just see

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00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 1: a rocket ship start. Now, I don't know how good

785
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,400
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786
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Speaker 1: I mean Oregon, the Utah's the USC's like they're gonna

788
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: lose some games. I think they're gonna win this weekend

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00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 1: Sometimes when you don't believe in a guy, and a

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00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,480
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794
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,720
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796
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,720
Speaker 1: we've had seven months within an NFL game? Crazy?

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Speaker 1: You have any big plays last weekend in college you

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Speaker 2: I had, I had the under in that game, but

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Speaker 1: I mean that's I talk to some people that work

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853
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 1: or high school football. They don't do the transfer portal.

854
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 1: And it was it was fucking glaring the other night. Uh,

855
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 1: let's dive in, you know, NFL slash college probably the

856
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:51,360
Speaker 1: story of football. Still, we'll start with a couple of

857
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 1: games in college football, obviously college football. The story of

858
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 1: it is prime time the line. I mean, this is

859
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 1: a historic rivalry that has been not been played because

860
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 1: they changed conferences, both of them years ago. One went

861
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 1: to the Pac twelve, the other one to the Big

862
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 1: ten Nebraska and fallen on hard times. Colorado had really

863
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 1: fallen on hard times. Primetime rolls in Game of the Day,

864
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 1: enormous ratings. I don't know a soul who wasn't watching

865
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,359
Speaker 1: that bad boy. This is a weird spot because it's

866
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 1: not that it's hard to be a letdown when it's

867
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 1: going to be a home opener that is going to

868
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:26,240
Speaker 1: be like a religious experience. But it is an early

869
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 1: morning kickoff, right Their Mountain times, so it's ten am kickoffs,

870
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 1: so the body clock's a little weird. I know they

871
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:33,839
Speaker 1: I guess they kicked off last week a little early,

872
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 1: but it was still Texas. They get an extra hour.

873
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 1: I didn't watch too much in Nebraska Minnesota. It's pretty boring. Uh.

874
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 1: Clearly Nebraska struggles to score. That's not Colorado's issue. But

875
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 1: Colorado sucks on defense. Beside Dion's kid and Travis Hunter

876
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 1: who never comes off the field. It feels like every

877
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 1: single human alive that gambles is going to take Colorado

878
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 1: this weekend. Am I crazy?

879
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 2: Yeah? I think everyone it's not in Nebraska. Colorado is

880
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 2: going to be the most bet football game of the weekend,

881
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 2: including the NFL, in a market that's been open for months. Yeah,

882
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 2: Nebraska Colorado the most bet game of a football week.

883
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 2: It feels like the nineties. But it's like Rashaan Salam

884
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 2: gonna be carrying the ball for Colorado. But I don't know,

885
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 2: I don't like it's for me. I'm not betting the

886
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:23,360
Speaker 2: game there. Everyone could be right, odds makers, some professional

887
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 2: betters could be wrong. This is a new phenomenon in

888
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 2: college football. I'll tell you that. You know Colorado was

889
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 2: one of the worst teams in the country last year.

890
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 2: They would have been like plus thirty five against TCU

891
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:37,280
Speaker 2: last week with that roster. Last year they were plus

892
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 2: twenty and a half. Obviously the line was wrong. Is

893
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 2: should they have been plus fourteen plus ten? It's one

894
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 2: data point. But you have a brand new staff. I

895
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:49,320
Speaker 2: love the staff that Diana assembled. You have an entirely

896
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 2: new roster, and so you have professional betters, you have

897
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 2: odds makers who don't want to adjust the team too

898
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 2: much off one data point. Right, you can't be like,

899
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 2: all right, this team is just two touchdowns better than

900
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:03,720
Speaker 2: I thought, but they could be They could be way better.

901
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 2: And this is only It's not like we've we have

902
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 2: a long history of teams that have done this right.

903
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:11,280
Speaker 2: Just all right, let's blow up, bringing a whole new staff,

904
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,800
Speaker 2: get out, kick everyone off the team, and bringing everyone

905
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 2: else through the portal.

906
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:17,839
Speaker 1: It's an expansion team.

907
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 2: Yes, with a lot of talent. There's not a lot,

908
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 2: not a lot of depth, but the talent, you know,

909
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 2: for the starters on both sides, including one who amazingly

910
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 2: played one hundred and whatever, snaps on both sides of

911
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:34,800
Speaker 2: the ball. So it's very difficult for me to adjust

912
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 2: Colorado to where they should be. I need some more

913
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 2: data points. I mean I made it minus one. I

914
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 2: would have made it like plus them plus six last

915
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 2: week if adjust them a touchdown, which is unheard of

916
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 2: after one week. So I don't know. Everyone is gonna

917
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 2: bet them. The books are going to need Nebraska bad.

918
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 2: But everyone could be right like this is just an

919
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 2: unprecedented situation. I will say, as you said before, must

920
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 2: see team everyan He's gonna tune in to see this,

921
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 2: and the most likely outcome is that the Colorado probably

922
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:09,280
Speaker 2: wins by like one to three on a miss Nebraska

923
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 2: fields all Nebraska's done. I think they're like two and

924
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 2: fourteen in one possession games over the last three years.

925
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 2: Their defense look good, their quarterbacks turnover machine, and they

926
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 2: just can't close out games. I feel bad for Nebraska fans,

927
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 2: but I'll be tuning in, But I won't be that

928
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:22,479
Speaker 2: in that game.

929
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:25,799
Speaker 1: Okay, the game of the day in college football that

930
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 1: has been circled for a long time. It was incredible

931
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 1: last year. Right If quinn Ewers doesn't get hurt, Texas

932
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 1: upsets them even in a loss, It's like Starks defining

933
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 1: moment as a head coach. His greatest moment as a

934
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:40,840
Speaker 1: head coach is literally a close loss at home to Saban,

935
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 1: who for his standards, what would you say. I mean,

936
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 1: that's one of the worst Alabama teams of his run,

937
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 1: of all the championship teams, and they were still pretty

938
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 1: good relative to the rest of college football. This team,

939
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 1: you know, I followed Nick Saban in the program relatively closely,

940
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 1: just on social media. He's been very positive this offseason.

941
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 1: I think he feels pretty good about his squad. Obviously,

942
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 1: last year, even though they lost, it was kind of

943
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 1: embarrassing to them. The line's pretty big, It's I got

944
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 1: a seven and a half. You know, Bama's at home Tuscaloosa.

945
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 1: Hard to judge them last week, but I didn't think

946
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 1: Texas looked very good. And I listen to coaches I'm

947
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 1: fucking out on Brandon Staley, Steve Sarkisian, Like I just don't.

948
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,760
Speaker 1: I don't trust those guys, regardless of their talent. Though.

949
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 1: You know, I got some NFL buddies that have gone

950
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 1: through Austin. They're like, this team is pretty stacked. Like

951
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 1: if you put Nick Saban as their head coach, we'd

952
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 1: be talking about them to win the national championship, so

953
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 1: probably stay away. Just that note. If this was like six,

954
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 1: I'd take Bama a little nervous. Seven and a half.

955
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 1: I could see them scoring enough points to you know,

956
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:41,879
Speaker 1: cover that line. But I just sark I could see

957
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 1: this getting ugly.

958
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 2: Yeah I did. I did. Bet Texas. I like them

959
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 2: at seven and a half. Gotta gotta find that that

960
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:50,919
Speaker 2: cook which is important, as you alluded to. And yeah,

961
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 2: this Texas team does overall has a top five roster.

962
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 2: You just go talent. They they finally have you know,

963
00:49:57,600 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 2: they have a top five offensive line on paper, the

964
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:04,360
Speaker 2: d defenses finally back, so that staff over time, you know,

965
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 2: they've had I think three straight top five recruiting classes,

966
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:10,359
Speaker 2: so it makes sense. They finally built the depth, they

967
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 2: built the interior in order to compete with the top

968
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 2: tier in the SEC. It's it's all there for this

969
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 2: Texas team. It just comes down to the quarterback. And look,

970
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 2: we can't really tell much from Alabama. Last week. They

971
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:25,479
Speaker 2: played a real you know, a middle Tennessee state team

972
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:29,319
Speaker 2: that lost everything, lost their quarterback, top three receivers, and

973
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 2: you know there was a big shot themselves on the

974
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 2: foot now Alabama was buttoned up lesser. They had some

975
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 2: issues with penalties and you know, just mental mistakes. But

976
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 2: they didn't have any of that last week, which is

977
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:42,320
Speaker 2: a good sign. With Texas on deck. The Texas defense

978
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 2: looked great. They you know, they won thirty seven the ten.

979
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 2: I think over Rice the question and this is all

980
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 2: what it's going to come down to is because I

981
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 2: have these teams like talent wise right now with questions

982
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:57,919
Speaker 2: at quarterback for Alabama Stione, we need to see more

983
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 2: from Milroe. It's going to come down. You were throwing

984
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 2: the ball downfield last year. He was thirty eight percent

985
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:06,360
Speaker 2: when the ball traveled fifteen plus yards. His footwork is

986
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:08,359
Speaker 2: just a mess. It was something I wanted to watch

987
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 2: in the off season, like, Okay, now he's got Arch there,

988
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:14,280
Speaker 2: another five star behind him. Is he going to work

989
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 2: on that? If you know the rumors are he just

990
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 2: has too big of an ego and he thinks that

991
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 2: his arm talent is too great. Last week against Rice,

992
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 2: oh of seven on balls that traveled fifteen plus yards

993
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 2: down the field missed two wide open touchdowns, even to

994
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 2: Worthy who was wide open down the field. And that's

995
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 2: the key to the game because last year when they

996
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:37,360
Speaker 2: played TCU, yours was awful because TCU said, you have

997
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:39,399
Speaker 2: to beat us downfield. They brought everyone up, they took

998
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 2: everything away, they took Bjean away, and they and yours

999
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 2: couldn't hit anything downfield. So that's what I assume down

1000
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 2: was going to do that, and he has to hit

1001
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 2: a couple passes downfield early. If he can, Texas can

1002
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 2: win this game. So that's going to open everything else up.

1003
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 2: And Albama lost three defensive backs to the NFL. They

1004
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:57,719
Speaker 2: have two starters who got hurt last week who were

1005
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 2: questionable this week, which is something big to watch because

1006
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:03,840
Speaker 2: you know you're already trying to replace three guys that

1007
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 2: left for the NFL. I took the seven and a

1008
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 2: half just from a number of protecutive Texas team has

1009
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 2: the talent to play with Alabama, but keep an eye

1010
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:14,400
Speaker 2: early on can you and then his confidence too, is

1011
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 2: probably gonna go in that Raucus stadium. Can he hit

1012
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 2: worthy or can they have really talented receivers? Can he

1013
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 2: hit a couple of deep shots early? If they do,

1014
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 2: this will be a thriller if they If he doesn't,

1015
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 2: could get ugly.

1016
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 1: Yours is like the Jeff George J. Cutler of College

1017
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 1: Football right now.

1018
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 2: Yep, yeah, and it's it would be It would be

1019
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:36,840
Speaker 2: interesting to see if like he's not hitting them, do

1020
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 2: they Yeah, and not many teams out the luxury that

1021
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 2: Texas does a five star then Arch manning. But yeah,

1022
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 2: it'll be really fascint to watch it. But just when

1023
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 2: I watch him too, Like last week, some of the

1024
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 2: deep throsiats, his footwork was just a little wonkye and

1025
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 2: I didn't announce a small sample size, but it didn't

1026
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 2: look like he fixed it. And I think that's gonna

1027
00:52:58,239 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 2: be the key to the game early on.

1028
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 1: And Dion's star is shining bright. Can you imagine if

1029
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 1: they went to the pen and arch came in and

1030
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 1: took down Bama in his first moment. I mean, you

1031
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 1: talk about Dion, You're gonna be joined at the top

1032
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 1: of the college football mountain our arches as a storyline.

1033
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:17,720
Speaker 1: That would be freaking sweet. That's the I'm room for Bama,

1034
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 1: but I'm cool with Texas winning if that happens. Let's

1035
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 1: dive into the NFL. No one likes a good dog,

1036
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,919
Speaker 1: especially early in the season. Like Maman Stucky. I can't

1037
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 1: disagree with him, because there are some lines that are

1038
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 1: relatively big before we dive into the games. You like, Listen,

1039
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 1: I think Arizona's gonna suck. They're gonna be awful. I

1040
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 1: think when the dust settles, I'm gonna have some coin

1041
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 1: on them. At plus seven against Washington, that feels like

1042
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:44,320
Speaker 1: to me, a tie game in the fourth quarter written

1043
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:46,760
Speaker 1: all over it really quick. I know we didn't discuss

1044
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:48,760
Speaker 1: this before, but am I crazy?

1045
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 2: Now? I mean, weird things happen in Week one in

1046
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 2: the NFL. So if you're thinking about, hey, I'm just

1047
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 2: gonna parlay all these teams that look like they're gonna win,

1048
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:58,879
Speaker 2: don't do that, especially in the NFL. Weird things happen. Yeah,

1049
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 2: I mean asking Washington team with an unproven quarterback to

1050
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 2: and who knows the mclarin's gonna play if he's one

1051
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 2: hundred percent. I know he's their optimistic is, but who knows.

1052
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 2: You're asking them to cover to win by more than

1053
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:12,800
Speaker 2: one touchdown to cover your number, even though Arizona is

1054
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 2: probably gonna be horrendous and only we don't even know

1055
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:16,839
Speaker 2: he's going to play quarterback. So yeah, I wouldn't blame

1056
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 2: you if you did. But yeah, I mean, just think,

1057
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 2: and I'll throw a couple examples out last year pitt

1058
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 2: one at Cincy. Right, since early in the season, these

1059
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 2: you're gonna have weird results, And just to throw out

1060
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 2: a number since two thousand and three, over the past

1061
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 2: twenty seasons, Division dogs in Week one sixty four, forty

1062
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 2: four and two against the spread hitting it sixty percent,

1063
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 2: and the Division one dogs that missed the playoffs the

1064
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:50,400
Speaker 2: previous season fifty eight to twenty seven and two against

1065
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:53,760
Speaker 2: the spread. Over the past twenty years close to seventy

1066
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 2: percent against the spread when they're getting more than a

1067
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 2: field goal forty one and seventeen against the spread since

1068
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 2: two two thousand and three. That this week. That applies

1069
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:09,319
Speaker 2: to the Browns, Raiders, Panthers, and Rams, and you know

1070
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 2: there's and the Colts as well. There's a lot of

1071
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 2: teams that people think are are bad early in the

1072
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 2: season and assume teams that did well last year are

1073
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 2: gonna be good, and a lot of times it just

1074
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 2: doesn't play it out that way. I love to hunt

1075
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 2: for some what I consider undervalued dogs in Week one.

1076
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 1: Think about an incredible example. The Pittsburgh's pretty good example. Obviously,

1077
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:35,920
Speaker 1: they finished strongk The Bears literally had the number one

1078
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:40,359
Speaker 1: overall draft pick and they beat the fucking Niners, So

1079
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:44,399
Speaker 1: it's like anything. Now, obviously the quarterback change quickly. Who

1080
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 1: knows if Jimmy had started that game. But still, I mean, obviously,

1081
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:50,799
Speaker 1: Frank Reich was losing every game he ever coaches in

1082
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 1: week one, so let's start. Let's start with the Colts,

1083
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:56,720
Speaker 1: who back with Frank always lost to the Jags before

1084
00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:59,439
Speaker 1: the Jags got good. And I think the Jacks gonna

1085
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 1: be pretty good. Don't know where you stand, but I

1086
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:05,279
Speaker 1: view them. I like them more than the Titans. I

1087
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:07,319
Speaker 1: just think Doug and Trevor are going to take off.

1088
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:11,879
Speaker 1: But this week, you know, at Jacksonville, I think that

1089
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:13,840
Speaker 1: they're Now I don't want to call him the hunted,

1090
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:16,320
Speaker 1: but they're a team that everyone looks at like a

1091
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 1: legitimate operation. Now, obviously you add Ridley Trevor. I think

1092
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 1: a lot of people are picking as like a pro

1093
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 1: Bowl level guy consistently. And the Colts, who knows, I mean,

1094
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor's on pup can their quarterback complete passes? But

1095
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 1: this is the classic spot where you look up and

1096
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:35,440
Speaker 1: it's going to the fourth quarter and the Colts are

1097
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 1: up twenty to thirteen. You're like, how is this happening?

1098
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 1: It hasn't written all over it. So who you liking

1099
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 1: this bad boy?

1100
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm taking the points of the Colts. Who I

1101
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 2: don't like this team at all this year? I bet

1102
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 2: they're win total under I'm not a fan of Anthony Richardson.

1103
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 2: I just don't think he's ready yet. Now. Yeah, he

1104
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 2: sort of has like Fields vibes, even hurts early on

1105
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 2: his crew. Now it hurts has taken the deleite Fields

1106
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:06,759
Speaker 2: still has yet to. I think you know Richardson just

1107
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 2: if you look at his accuracy numbers, even behind a

1108
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 2: really good offensive line last year at Florida, they weren't there.

1109
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 2: I don't expect them to be there in the NFL

1110
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 2: this year. But it's this is the time I think

1111
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 2: that you want to back him a first time head coach,

1112
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 2: good offensive mine. There's a lot of uncertainty here, and

1113
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 2: you know we're gonna once people start to get film

1114
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 2: on what they want to do with Richardson and kind

1115
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:33,120
Speaker 2: of get him out of his comfort zone. I think

1116
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 2: it's going to be a real struggle for the Colts.

1117
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 2: So while I wouldn't be surprised that this is your

1118
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 2: AFC South Special. We've seen so many times over the

1119
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 2: last five years where usually these roles are reversed. But yeah,

1120
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 2: the Colts tying the Texans the Jags and beating upsetting

1121
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 2: the Colts, and these teams go on to lose like

1122
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 2: the thirteen to fourteen games. So I wouldn't be surprised

1123
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 2: to see the Colts have a really rough year, but

1124
00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 2: without Taylor might work in their favor here. You're going

1125
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 2: to see a little or tempo and the Jags secondary

1126
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 2: is still really bad, right you, And they have some

1127
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 2: injuries now in the front seven that quite impact this

1128
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 2: game as well. But this is that you know Richardson

1129
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 2: in his first game, Yeah, there's not really there's not

1130
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 2: a lot of film on what they want to do

1131
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 2: with him, and it's a really bad Jacksonville secondary. So

1132
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 2: I think the Colts can actually have some success here.

1133
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 2: A sneaky little over too, if you're looking for a

1134
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 2: total because Jacksonville started to go a lot faster, throw

1135
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 2: a lot more. Lawrence broke out the second half of

1136
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 2: last season. Then you add Ridley and it's still a

1137
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 2: really bad Colts defense. But home Divisional dog Week one here,

1138
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 2: I'm taking the points and holding my nose.

1139
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got I got some boots on the ground

1140
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 1: on that staff. And the one thing they mentioned is

1141
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 1: they think their offense is a chance to be really

1142
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 1: really good, major question marks on defense, so they can

1143
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 1: be one of those classic teams, you know, ten win

1144
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 1: team scoring a ton of points, giving up a lot

1145
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 1: of points, honestly looking like a primetime CU squad. Yeah,

1146
00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 1: and Ridley, you know, if you're into fantasy, I think

1147
00:58:58,560 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 1: I think he's got a chance to have a pretty

1148
00:58:59,880 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 1: big year for them. Obviously, Christian Kirk did last year.

1149
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 1: Etn's kind of your modern day hybrid, you know, pass

1150
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 1: catching back cay let's dive into another game.

1151
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 2: Yeah. The good thing with Ridley is that if Ridley

1152
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 2: is you know, it's kind of a weird situation. We

1153
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 2: haven't seen like much. We're a big data set on

1154
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 2: receivers in his age, just missing two years and coming

1155
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 2: back well so, but if yeah, it just even close

1156
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 2: to the speed that he had before, just opening up

1157
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 2: the top of you know, opposing defenses can open up

1158
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:35,960
Speaker 2: so much more underneath for Kirk and company, For Lawrence

1159
00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 2: to operate even a more efficient offense after we saw

1160
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 2: him break out in the second f of last year,

1161
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 2: So it's really interested to see what they do with

1162
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:44,960
Speaker 2: Ridley and howld impacts every I.

1163
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 1: Think one thing you're going to see is they view

1164
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:48,880
Speaker 1: him and Kirk is kind of interchanged, like they can

1165
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 1: pump Ridley into the slot, same with Christian Kirk and

1166
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 1: then kind of move those guys around, kind of kind

1167
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 1: of little forty nine ers with IU can debo, you

1168
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:57,880
Speaker 1: can kind of move them all around. And then obviously

1169
00:59:57,880 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 1: you have a dynamic running back and a you know,

1170
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 1: a good pass catching tight end that their offense could

1171
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 1: be could be really fun to watch. Talk about a

1172
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:06,640
Speaker 1: team that might not be that fun to watch the

1173
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:09,240
Speaker 1: season goes on would be the Buccaneers, who to me,

1174
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 1: I think have the Caleb Williams Suwech stakes. Will have

1175
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 1: a chance to be talking about them by about the

1176
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 1: middle of October. But this they're playing a team that

1177
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:22,200
Speaker 1: I know you and most people in the gambling sphere,

1178
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 1: in the number sphere thought it was kind of crazy

1179
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 1: what they were doing all the one score games. It

1180
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 1: obviously came to a head in the playoff game when

1181
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 1: they lost to the Giants. You know, a lot of

1182
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:33,400
Speaker 1: people are picking Minnesota to come back to earth. Hell,

1183
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:35,560
Speaker 1: if you if you win nine games, that's a four

1184
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 1: you know, game swing from last year. That would be

1185
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 1: pretty big. You know, Kirk Cousins, that thing could get

1186
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:44,400
Speaker 1: weird fast. He's last year of his contract. There's already

1187
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:45,920
Speaker 1: been some talks like if it got weird, would they

1188
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:47,960
Speaker 1: trade him? I don't really know what his trademarket would be.

1189
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:51,240
Speaker 1: But you know the Buccaneers, this is another classic team's

1190
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 1: going to be bad. More than likely they'll end up

1191
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:57,240
Speaker 1: trading people by early October. But you look up or

1192
01:00:57,280 --> 01:00:59,240
Speaker 1: are they in a TI game going to the fourth quarter?

1193
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 1: This has it written all over to me too. And

1194
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 1: I think Baker Mayfield's terrible, But week one, I would

1195
01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:07,240
Speaker 1: I'm probably with you on this one. I'm going with

1196
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:08,360
Speaker 1: the dog. Yeah.

1197
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 2: I mean, even if the Vikings duplicate what they did

1198
01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:12,800
Speaker 2: last year, they wouldn't cover this game. Even they went thirteen,

1199
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 2: they won every game by like three points, so asking

1200
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 2: them to win by margin here is difficult. Look, Minnesota,

1201
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 2: you mentioned it. They there were rumors that they tried

1202
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:23,680
Speaker 2: to trade up for Bryce Young and I think this

1203
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:25,920
Speaker 2: is the last year of Cousins. They can still be

1204
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:28,520
Speaker 2: competitive because their division is terrible, The NFC is so terrible,

1205
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:31,600
Speaker 2: But they're quietly rebuilding knowing that they need to get

1206
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 2: you know, they have the arguably the best receiver in

1207
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:36,600
Speaker 2: the NFL. They have a really good left you know,

1208
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 2: good tackle situation. Everything else needs to be kind of

1209
01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:42,560
Speaker 2: blown up. And the Cousins got it. You can't pay Cousins,

1210
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:45,440
Speaker 2: you know, six billion dollars a year at his age,

1211
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 2: So you know they're they're quietly rebuilding. Look at all

1212
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:51,160
Speaker 2: the veterans they got rid of from that team last year,

1213
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 2: you know, Zadarius Smith, Kendricks, they're running back. I think

1214
01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 2: they got rid of six or seven you know, Cook,

1215
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:00,600
Speaker 2: I think six or seven vetter and guys.

1216
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 1: So they're not as those are former Pro Bowl players,

1217
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 1: you know, I mean they were their core guys making

1218
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:07,240
Speaker 1: the playoffs for all those years.

1219
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:11,560
Speaker 2: Yep, they're Peterson their primary corner like, so they they're

1220
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:13,960
Speaker 2: a less taed. I think that I agreed with all

1221
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 2: the moves from a long term roster construction perspective, but

1222
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 2: they're a less talented team than they were last year.

1223
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:23,080
Speaker 2: That was a fraudulent thirteen win team. The defense, I

1224
01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:25,640
Speaker 2: have a lot of respect for Brian Flores. The defense

1225
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:27,720
Speaker 2: is bad like that. You look at the secondary, They're

1226
01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:30,800
Speaker 2: not gonna be able to generate pressure naturally, which is

1227
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:32,800
Speaker 2: how you If you can do that against Baker Mayfield,

1228
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:34,440
Speaker 2: he folds like a cheap tent. They're not gonna be

1229
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:37,240
Speaker 2: able to do that, and that's ultimately the Bucks offensive

1230
01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:39,240
Speaker 2: line is a big problem. You lose a couple guys

1231
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:41,960
Speaker 2: removing worse from right to left side. But I don't

1232
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:44,360
Speaker 2: think that's as big of a concern here. The Bucks

1233
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:46,960
Speaker 2: still have two really good receivers going up against a

1234
01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:52,800
Speaker 2: horrible Viking secondary, and the Bucks defense it's still look

1235
01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:54,520
Speaker 2: they don't have a lot of depth, and later in

1236
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:56,520
Speaker 2: the year that could be disastrous. I think the offensive

1237
01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:58,320
Speaker 2: line is eventually going to cost them. Like you said,

1238
01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:01,000
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surpised if Evans gets traded, you know,

1239
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 2: in a couple of weeks, and who knows, it's gonna

1240
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:06,880
Speaker 2: get ugly quick. But the defense still the front that's

1241
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:09,320
Speaker 2: starting eleven. I have a lot of talent at all

1242
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 2: three levels. It's still a really good, you know, really

1243
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:14,760
Speaker 2: talented secondary that can match up with some of these receivers.

1244
01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:16,760
Speaker 2: Still an age, it's an aging Cousins, who I think

1245
01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:18,920
Speaker 2: it's gonna start to slip too many points. And for

1246
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:20,920
Speaker 2: what it's worth, Cousins is a favorite of more than

1247
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 2: four points eleven, eighteen and one against the spread in

1248
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:27,360
Speaker 2: his career thirty eight percent, including seven to fifteen and

1249
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:32,240
Speaker 2: one at home. That's thirty two percent. I'll happily take

1250
01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:34,720
Speaker 2: the six here. Wouldn't be surprised if the Bucks went

1251
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:38,520
Speaker 2: out right, but more than likely it's probably gonna be

1252
01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:40,800
Speaker 2: and everyone's gonna be laughing. It's gonna be another one

1253
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:43,160
Speaker 2: of the three point Vikings wins.

1254
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:45,240
Speaker 1: You know what's funny is I get so many dms.

1255
01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:48,560
Speaker 1: Vikings actually have a sneaky, big fan base. They're like,

1256
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:51,840
Speaker 1: you're undertelling us our defense with Brian Flores and I

1257
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:53,680
Speaker 1: think the one thing that you can get by with

1258
01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:56,280
Speaker 1: a great offensive mind, I think you'll see it this year,

1259
01:03:56,320 --> 01:03:58,640
Speaker 1: probably with Andy Reid with some randoms he can turn in.

1260
01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:01,920
Speaker 1: He did it forever in Philly. Kyle Shanahan has a history.

1261
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:04,760
Speaker 1: You can turn randoms into solid players. It's much harder

1262
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:07,440
Speaker 1: on defense. Like Vic Fangio was a great coach in

1263
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:09,960
Speaker 1: San Francisco when he had a loaded squad with hardball

1264
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:13,040
Speaker 1: hasn't been as good. Other spots Chicago. The one year

1265
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:15,680
Speaker 1: they get Khalil Mack, He's a star again, right, you

1266
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:18,680
Speaker 1: need It's a little college football, in my opinion, with

1267
01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:21,320
Speaker 1: the Jimmies and the Joe's on top of the Ex's nose.

1268
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:23,800
Speaker 1: Look at the forty nine ers have been Sola and Demico.

1269
01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:26,320
Speaker 1: It's because they have great players. It's hard to beat

1270
01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:29,800
Speaker 1: some elite Belichick and Parcels turned into Belichick and Parcels.

1271
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 1: With all those dudes in LT, you know you can't overcome.

1272
01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:37,360
Speaker 1: You know. That's why the Dolphins, I'm not as high

1273
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:40,360
Speaker 1: on you lose Jalen Ramsey. There's still some question marks,

1274
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:42,480
Speaker 1: like it's just when you've got great players and you

1275
01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:44,840
Speaker 1: give me a great defensive coordinator, Okay, you're gonna be

1276
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:48,040
Speaker 1: a top five defense. Ye take that away. It's just

1277
01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 1: it's much harder, especially with the rules today. So I'm Minnesota.

1278
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:53,720
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people are like, well they

1279
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:56,960
Speaker 1: got Brian Flores. Now, like you said, look at their personnel.

1280
01:04:57,280 --> 01:05:00,400
Speaker 1: Zimmer was awesome when he coached the Bengals and they loaded,

1281
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:01,960
Speaker 1: and then he became the head coach of Minnesota and

1282
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:04,000
Speaker 1: they nailed a bunch of draft picks as those guys

1283
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:06,560
Speaker 1: got older, dan Quinn look at him now, he's viewed

1284
01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:08,680
Speaker 1: as one of the best defensive coordinators. Well, was he

1285
01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:11,560
Speaker 1: the village idiot in Atlanta or their players just suck you? Oh?

1286
01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:14,600
Speaker 1: I mean yep, so I I'm here with you.

1287
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:17,640
Speaker 2: I look though for I mean. And the counter to

1288
01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:19,960
Speaker 2: the Vikings, and yeah, the Vikings have a lot of

1289
01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:23,120
Speaker 2: passionate fans, starting with the guy. One of my favorite

1290
01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:24,920
Speaker 2: sounds in the NFL is the guy who blows the

1291
01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:27,880
Speaker 2: horn at their home games whenever it's like a third down.

1292
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:30,880
Speaker 2: But the counter to that is, I really like the

1293
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:34,760
Speaker 2: hire that the Bucks made it offensive coordinator, former mcday guy.

1294
01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:37,200
Speaker 2: So this is a familiarity there with Baker, who was

1295
01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:40,000
Speaker 2: with the Rams shortly last year. But Leftwich was just

1296
01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:42,760
Speaker 2: the play calling. The early downplay calling was terrible last

1297
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:43,840
Speaker 2: year for the Bucks. So I think there's going to

1298
01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:46,360
Speaker 2: be an improvement there from a play calling perspective. But

1299
01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:49,280
Speaker 2: you're right, look about belichick twenty five and twenty five

1300
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:54,160
Speaker 2: overall records since Brady left, Like, you need, you need players,

1301
01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:56,760
Speaker 2: and you need you need to otherwise there's just only

1302
01:05:56,760 --> 01:05:57,360
Speaker 2: so much you can do.

1303
01:05:57,400 --> 01:06:01,080
Speaker 1: Okay, let's go with the Titans. Titans, Saints. My guy

1304
01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:03,760
Speaker 1: Hayter just got popped for PDS. Now he was the

1305
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:07,600
Speaker 1: third quarterback, but still that hurts me. A lot of

1306
01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:10,880
Speaker 1: buzz on New Orleans. Listen, Dennis Allen's record speaks for itself,

1307
01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:14,320
Speaker 1: but I think their division's pretty terrible. I like him

1308
01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:16,280
Speaker 1: to win the South. I don't know about you. I

1309
01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:20,000
Speaker 1: think Derek Listen, he's been a polarizing player over the years,

1310
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:22,520
Speaker 1: but if he just last year was somewhat of an outlier.

1311
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:25,240
Speaker 1: If he is just you know, floating between that middle tier,

1312
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:28,480
Speaker 1: you know, somewhere between twelve and fifteen quarterback in the league,

1313
01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:31,000
Speaker 1: they're in pretty good shape. But the Titans are that

1314
01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:32,800
Speaker 1: classic team, and we talk about it all the time.

1315
01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:36,240
Speaker 1: With Tomlin as a dog and people disrespecting him, that's

1316
01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:40,120
Speaker 1: kind of when he thrives. I'm just not as bullish

1317
01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:41,920
Speaker 1: on the Titans this year. I think this is the

1318
01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:45,400
Speaker 1: year Derek falls off a cliff. But this early spot

1319
01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:48,080
Speaker 1: where they clearly have the coaching matchup, and you could

1320
01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:51,000
Speaker 1: argue if they're both just solid, Tanny Hill and Derek

1321
01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:54,000
Speaker 1: are a wash, right, So usually if those the most

1322
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:58,480
Speaker 1: important thing quarterback coach, you know you could argue advantage Titans.

1323
01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:00,000
Speaker 1: I do think this place is going to be nuts,

1324
01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:01,400
Speaker 1: So I do think they got a lot of positive

1325
01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:04,400
Speaker 1: momentum coming in for the Saints fans like they believe

1326
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:06,720
Speaker 1: again it's gonna be a tough place to play, which

1327
01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:08,520
Speaker 1: it feels like it's kind of dimmed out a little

1328
01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:12,240
Speaker 1: bit last year despite having a really good defense. This

1329
01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:15,080
Speaker 1: is probably stay away from me. I just can't get

1330
01:07:15,080 --> 01:07:18,680
Speaker 1: behind the Titans, and I guess I'm a believer in

1331
01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:20,240
Speaker 1: the Saints, but I would like to see a couple

1332
01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:20,880
Speaker 1: games first.

1333
01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:23,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm taking the Titans here. I took plus three

1334
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:26,240
Speaker 2: and f and some I would still take plus three.

1335
01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:29,720
Speaker 2: I look very bell Forwards brought fourteen six and one

1336
01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:33,160
Speaker 2: against the spread, seventy percent as a road underdog of

1337
01:07:33,160 --> 01:07:35,800
Speaker 2: three or more points. And he's just the guy that

1338
01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:38,880
Speaker 2: squeezes the most out of his roster year in year out.

1339
01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:41,919
Speaker 2: He you know, he's gone over his preseason win total

1340
01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:44,680
Speaker 2: four or five years. The one exception was last year

1341
01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:48,520
Speaker 2: when they were sitting seven to three, the rating, number

1342
01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:50,960
Speaker 2: one overall seed in the AFC, and then they got

1343
01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:56,080
Speaker 2: absolutely were devastated by injuries. They were the unluckiest team

1344
01:07:56,120 --> 01:07:59,320
Speaker 2: in the league last year by average games hikery games

1345
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:02,360
Speaker 2: lost in the injury department, and they lost seven straight.

1346
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:06,040
Speaker 2: They were even in some close games with you know, Dobbs,

1347
01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:10,000
Speaker 2: and at the quarterback situation was horrendous. Yeah, so they're

1348
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:11,640
Speaker 2: gonna be much healthier coming into this year. I'm a

1349
01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:14,040
Speaker 2: little worried about the offensive line. You know, you're projected

1350
01:08:14,080 --> 01:08:17,240
Speaker 2: starting right tackle Petit Ferre. He suspended the first six games,

1351
01:08:17,439 --> 01:08:19,280
Speaker 2: but it's not as big of a concern against this

1352
01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:22,280
Speaker 2: Saints team, which has weakened over the years in their

1353
01:08:22,320 --> 01:08:25,719
Speaker 2: defensive front seven. And it's just natural pass rushing prowess.

1354
01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:29,400
Speaker 2: I mean, Cam Jordan's not getting any younger. You add Hopkins,

1355
01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:31,519
Speaker 2: I think that opens up things for Berks. I actually

1356
01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:34,439
Speaker 2: loved that. I was a Taj Spears truther at Tulane.

1357
01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:36,960
Speaker 2: I think he can provide some things on third down

1358
01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:40,559
Speaker 2: and then the passing game and the interior that Titans defense.

1359
01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:44,240
Speaker 2: I think can cause some chaos and take advantage of

1360
01:08:44,280 --> 01:08:47,599
Speaker 2: a fairly vulnerable interior Saints offensive line. And that's really

1361
01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:51,280
Speaker 2: how you, you know, you kind of disrupt car who

1362
01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:54,000
Speaker 2: I actually like more than most, but he's not the

1363
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:55,840
Speaker 2: most mobile guy in the world. So if you can

1364
01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:59,439
Speaker 2: generate interior pressure, that's really how you disrupt a car

1365
01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:01,920
Speaker 2: offense in a new scheme. Here, it might take some time,

1366
01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:07,719
Speaker 2: and you said it best of all the coaching advantage here,

1367
01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:12,879
Speaker 2: I'll happily take a field goal in this particular matchup,

1368
01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:15,360
Speaker 2: which should be I think a close game throughout, So

1369
01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:17,080
Speaker 2: I'll happily take the three and keep it in my

1370
01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:17,719
Speaker 2: back pocket.

1371
01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:23,439
Speaker 1: Okay, the Jordan Love justin Field's bowl, I think if

1372
01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:27,040
Speaker 1: you remove all the quarterback hype, like does Jordan Love

1373
01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:29,320
Speaker 1: what does he look like? Because no one really knows?

1374
01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:32,519
Speaker 1: And then is Justin Fields actually good or is he

1375
01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:35,320
Speaker 1: just a runner? And you just look at all the

1376
01:09:35,360 --> 01:09:38,479
Speaker 1: other players on the team. The Packers are dramatically better

1377
01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:42,800
Speaker 1: than the Bears, right that their roster is. I mean,

1378
01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:45,519
Speaker 1: it's it's in a different it's on it, it's on

1379
01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:47,960
Speaker 1: a different level. Now, I did see, and I know

1380
01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:50,599
Speaker 1: you monitor this stuff closely. There are two wide receivers

1381
01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:54,200
Speaker 1: have hamstring issues, which is makes me a little nervous,

1382
01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:57,360
Speaker 1: but they're built like they have no problem. Especially the

1383
01:09:57,479 --> 01:10:00,680
Speaker 1: Floor has really closer ties to Kyle in terms of

1384
01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:02,800
Speaker 1: he really wants to run the ball and obviously they've

1385
01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:05,639
Speaker 1: talked a lot about that. Over the course of this transition.

1386
01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:08,280
Speaker 1: He'll run it thirty five times. He's got no problem

1387
01:10:08,280 --> 01:10:11,120
Speaker 1: winning this thing seventeen to seven or something, you know,

1388
01:10:11,240 --> 01:10:13,920
Speaker 1: just controlling the clock. So if those guys are out,

1389
01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:16,240
Speaker 1: which big picture for this team would be a problem.

1390
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:20,760
Speaker 1: But in this individual game, regardless of the quarterbacks, Like

1391
01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:23,640
Speaker 1: I the Bears just don't have a good roster. I

1392
01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:25,120
Speaker 1: think a lot of people that are like picking the

1393
01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:27,920
Speaker 1: Bears to be like some sleeper wild card team. I

1394
01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:30,520
Speaker 1: just think they're a year away from being in that conversation,

1395
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:33,360
Speaker 1: assuming they hit on justin fields, which is an unknown.

1396
01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:37,479
Speaker 1: But their defense, I mean, I think stink's stucky. I

1397
01:10:37,479 --> 01:10:40,280
Speaker 1: mean I would just pick the Bears, or excuse me,

1398
01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:43,639
Speaker 1: the Packers. Plus you're getting a point just on principle

1399
01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:45,120
Speaker 1: of just the roster construction.

1400
01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:50,120
Speaker 2: Yep. Yeah, the Packers are significantly better overall than the Bears.

1401
01:10:50,120 --> 01:10:52,799
Speaker 2: Look at the offensive line, and you know, when the Packers'

1402
01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:54,560
Speaker 2: offensive line is healthy, it's one of the best in

1403
01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:58,200
Speaker 2: the NFL. The Bears offensive line was historically bad. Last year,

1404
01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:01,559
Speaker 2: they brought in you know, Nate Davis, you draft to tackle,

1405
01:11:02,240 --> 01:11:04,160
Speaker 2: but Tevin Jenkins is on ir They've had to move

1406
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:06,280
Speaker 2: a bunch of guys around like it's still a mess.

1407
01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:09,120
Speaker 2: Their defense was historically bad, item rated as the worst

1408
01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:12,439
Speaker 2: in the league. Last year they went out and signed too,

1409
01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:15,479
Speaker 2: you know, two high profile linebackers. Who cares In today's

1410
01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:20,560
Speaker 2: NFL it's the least important position. And you mentioned the

1411
01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:23,120
Speaker 2: running game. Last year the Packers swept the Bears. They

1412
01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:26,679
Speaker 2: ran it sixty seven times for three hundred and eighty yards.

1413
01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:29,439
Speaker 2: It's an average of five point seven yards per carry,

1414
01:11:29,439 --> 01:11:31,880
Speaker 2: the worst run defense in the league. Out five point

1415
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:34,479
Speaker 2: four fields in those two games, by the way, zero touchdowns,

1416
01:11:34,479 --> 01:11:39,360
Speaker 2: three interceptions. And yeah, the Packers defense not a fan.

1417
01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:41,840
Speaker 2: I'm not a huge fan of their coordinator Barry, but

1418
01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:45,920
Speaker 2: a very talented defense with a lockdown corner. Bears defense

1419
01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:48,920
Speaker 2: is still just bottom of the barrel. You know, the

1420
01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:51,679
Speaker 2: previous management just left it. This team, you know, it's

1421
01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:53,280
Speaker 2: just a mess and it's taken a while. It's going

1422
01:11:53,320 --> 01:11:54,880
Speaker 2: to take a while for them to clean it all up.

1423
01:11:55,040 --> 01:11:57,000
Speaker 2: You got to hope you hit on fields and then

1424
01:11:57,000 --> 01:11:59,479
Speaker 2: you know you've been shedding contracts and just trying to

1425
01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:02,960
Speaker 2: build a younger defense, younger offensive line. You know, bringing

1426
01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:06,679
Speaker 2: in receiver a number one receiver is gonna help fields,

1427
01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:09,440
Speaker 2: but if you just dig into the numbers, the accuracy

1428
01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:12,679
Speaker 2: is still not there. He's gonna have to run around upon.

1429
01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:14,879
Speaker 2: The injury risk too for the whole season is obviously

1430
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:17,080
Speaker 2: astronomical because the defense not gonna get any stops He's

1431
01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:19,080
Speaker 2: gonna It's not like they're going to be blowing anyone out.

1432
01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:23,960
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think that you nailed you nailed it.

1433
01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:29,320
Speaker 2: It's the better defense, better offensive line, just an overall

1434
01:12:29,439 --> 01:12:32,599
Speaker 2: better team. And I'm not a believer in Fields yet.

1435
01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:35,280
Speaker 2: Now he could prove it to me over time and love.

1436
01:12:36,160 --> 01:12:38,120
Speaker 2: I like what I've seen in a small sample size,

1437
01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:40,040
Speaker 2: but maybe he has it. I just don't think the

1438
01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:42,000
Speaker 2: fields has it as of right now. And then the

1439
01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:44,559
Speaker 2: overall team is better. I'll happily take the points on

1440
01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:47,960
Speaker 2: the road here with the Packers and hope they get

1441
01:12:47,960 --> 01:12:48,439
Speaker 2: it done.

1442
01:12:48,840 --> 01:12:52,080
Speaker 1: I actually think the Bears, if this season doesn't go well,

1443
01:12:52,120 --> 01:12:54,599
Speaker 1: and I'm I don't think they're going to be very good,

1444
01:12:55,560 --> 01:12:58,080
Speaker 1: actually have a lot going for him that they got

1445
01:12:58,160 --> 01:13:00,880
Speaker 1: DJ Moore in the trade there to have a high pick.

1446
01:13:01,720 --> 01:13:04,439
Speaker 1: The Panthers have a chance to also be terrible. They

1447
01:13:04,439 --> 01:13:08,080
Speaker 1: have their pick, you know. So it's if the Justin

1448
01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:11,679
Speaker 1: Fields experiment does not work out, it's not life or death.

1449
01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:15,320
Speaker 1: Now they're coming from a place unlike San Francisco, who

1450
01:13:15,400 --> 01:13:18,160
Speaker 1: blew a quarterback. They were winning and just kept unrolling.

1451
01:13:18,280 --> 01:13:18,400
Speaker 2: This.

1452
01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:21,280
Speaker 1: It feels worse when you're losing. But I do think

1453
01:13:21,479 --> 01:13:23,120
Speaker 1: you can kind of see the light at the end

1454
01:13:23,120 --> 01:13:25,559
Speaker 1: of the tunnel. Obviously, if you're a Bears fan, you

1455
01:13:25,640 --> 01:13:28,519
Speaker 1: root against Carolina every single week, which a lot of

1456
01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:30,360
Speaker 1: those weeks probably shouldn't. I don't know where you stand

1457
01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:33,040
Speaker 1: on them. I'm not trying to overreact to the preseason,

1458
01:13:33,080 --> 01:13:37,040
Speaker 1: but they don't have any weapons. The quarterback. I like

1459
01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:39,000
Speaker 1: the quarterback a lot, but God, he's small and he

1460
01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:41,519
Speaker 1: could easily get hurt behind an offensive line. He's not,

1461
01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:43,920
Speaker 1: you know, for a little guy. You think kind of like,

1462
01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:46,439
Speaker 1: oh he's Kyler Murray. No, he's not a great athlete.

1463
01:13:46,439 --> 01:13:50,160
Speaker 1: He's a pocket quarterbacks. He's closer to Tua in the

1464
01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:52,640
Speaker 1: sense that like he plays, he's a thrower. You know,

1465
01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:53,559
Speaker 1: he's not a runner.

1466
01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:55,320
Speaker 2: But he's tiny.

1467
01:13:55,760 --> 01:13:59,240
Speaker 1: So if one of these big defensive linemen, which literally

1468
01:13:59,240 --> 01:14:02,120
Speaker 1: every team has, imagine videve have fallen on that guy,

1469
01:14:02,520 --> 01:14:05,000
Speaker 1: I could see him get I mean, I'd be stunned

1470
01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:07,040
Speaker 1: if he's able to stay healthy all season long, especially

1471
01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:09,280
Speaker 1: the way he plays, because I love his game, because

1472
01:14:09,280 --> 01:14:13,080
Speaker 1: he's fearless. But you better buckle up. But that's good

1473
01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:15,160
Speaker 1: for the Bears. Who knows like they could have like

1474
01:14:15,160 --> 01:14:16,600
Speaker 1: the number one pick and the number four pick all

1475
01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:18,519
Speaker 1: of a sudden you're looking at Kayleb Williams and Marvin

1476
01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:19,599
Speaker 1: Harrison Junior or something.

1477
01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:22,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say that the division as a whole

1478
01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:25,120
Speaker 2: is pretty weak this year, but you can see the

1479
01:14:25,240 --> 01:14:28,479
Speaker 2: light for a lot of these teams, and everything's cyclical

1480
01:14:28,479 --> 01:14:30,040
Speaker 2: in the NFL. If the AFC is so much better

1481
01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:33,160
Speaker 2: than the NFC overall, especially from a depth perspective, but

1482
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:36,320
Speaker 2: that's gonna change, right to some of these aging quarterbacks,

1483
01:14:36,320 --> 01:14:38,360
Speaker 2: you gotta pay them, and then those are asters get

1484
01:14:38,360 --> 01:14:41,000
Speaker 2: worse than the NFC. Right you have the Lions, which

1485
01:14:41,040 --> 01:14:44,280
Speaker 2: are building a nice, good young roster when you know

1486
01:14:44,520 --> 01:14:48,120
Speaker 2: eventually they're gonna golf. I think really limits their ceiling, right,

1487
01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:49,840
Speaker 2: And it's just when he is to go against some

1488
01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:51,720
Speaker 2: of these elite quarterbacks, the NFL is just not there.

1489
01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:54,720
Speaker 2: But they hit him a quarterback in the future if

1490
01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:57,559
Speaker 2: Jordan Love hits with this Packers team, which has a

1491
01:14:57,560 --> 01:14:59,400
Speaker 2: good young base, and then yeah, the Bears I like

1492
01:14:59,479 --> 01:15:02,680
Speaker 2: eber Flu as well. If either Field hits or they

1493
01:15:02,680 --> 01:15:06,200
Speaker 2: get another young quarterback that hits. And the Vikings I

1494
01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:08,400
Speaker 2: think are making that transition to feel And you mentioned

1495
01:15:08,439 --> 01:15:11,680
Speaker 2: on the Panthers another guy they shedded. They're kind of resetting.

1496
01:15:11,960 --> 01:15:15,519
Speaker 2: You have a franchise wide receiver tackles, they're resetting. And

1497
01:15:15,560 --> 01:15:17,960
Speaker 2: then if they can hit on a quarterback, this division

1498
01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:20,360
Speaker 2: could be really fun again in a couple of years.

1499
01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:23,240
Speaker 1: For people listening to this until you know before the

1500
01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:26,439
Speaker 1: Sunday kickoff. You know, I'm not a huge over under guy,

1501
01:15:26,560 --> 01:15:28,800
Speaker 1: just because I'm not a patient gambler. It's hard for

1502
01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:31,240
Speaker 1: me to wait that long to get the payoff. I

1503
01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:33,439
Speaker 1: have to put up so much upfront to keep my

1504
01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:37,439
Speaker 1: juices rolling. But are there is there a team or two?

1505
01:15:37,479 --> 01:15:39,760
Speaker 1: Because I picking the division, I kind of went chalk.

1506
01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:42,880
Speaker 1: I'm just very chalky. It's hard, you know, in the NFC,

1507
01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:44,599
Speaker 1: Like it's hard for me to think outside the box.

1508
01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:48,040
Speaker 1: Beside the Cowboys, the Niners, the Eagles, the Giants, Seattle.

1509
01:15:48,120 --> 01:15:49,840
Speaker 1: I mean, I think most of the teams last year

1510
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:52,800
Speaker 1: maybe the Saints in Tampa flip. But the AFC is

1511
01:15:52,840 --> 01:15:55,720
Speaker 1: a little more difficult. Is there a team that you

1512
01:15:55,800 --> 01:15:59,479
Speaker 1: don't like who's been good, or a team that hasn't

1513
01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:02,360
Speaker 1: been good, or you know last year like a Broncos,

1514
01:16:02,360 --> 01:16:05,799
Speaker 1: a Raiders, a Browns that you could see making the playoffs.

1515
01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:07,160
Speaker 1: Because I know one team in the AFC I think

1516
01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:10,680
Speaker 1: is gonna be really good this season. It's I'm not

1517
01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:12,559
Speaker 1: gonna bet this game because I want the forty nine

1518
01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:14,040
Speaker 1: Ers to win. I easily think the steel I think

1519
01:16:14,040 --> 01:16:16,200
Speaker 1: the Steelers gonna be pretty good, and I think they

1520
01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:17,920
Speaker 1: got a chance not to just win that division, but

1521
01:16:18,280 --> 01:16:20,400
Speaker 1: be a real squad. And I wasn't the biggest Kenny

1522
01:16:20,400 --> 01:16:23,479
Speaker 1: Pickett guy, but a lot like I think the forty

1523
01:16:23,560 --> 01:16:25,479
Speaker 1: nine Ers are a good example for them if you

1524
01:16:25,680 --> 01:16:28,280
Speaker 1: insert a guy that's just more than capable. And I

1525
01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:30,200
Speaker 1: hate to say this, but Mac Jones probably would have

1526
01:16:30,200 --> 01:16:31,920
Speaker 1: been this version if they would have picked them. You

1527
01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:33,920
Speaker 1: can just function and win twelve thirteen games. Look at

1528
01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:36,240
Speaker 1: Party last year because of the talent they have around

1529
01:16:36,320 --> 01:16:39,360
Speaker 1: them and the defense. And I think the Steelers, I

1530
01:16:39,400 --> 01:16:41,120
Speaker 1: know they came on at the end of the year. Obviously,

1531
01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:44,639
Speaker 1: Tomalin took this preseason as seriously as any coach ever.

1532
01:16:45,640 --> 01:16:47,880
Speaker 1: I think they're like a thirteen win team and I

1533
01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:51,160
Speaker 1: got them, you know. Obviously, as we're recording this, we'll

1534
01:16:51,160 --> 01:16:54,120
Speaker 1: see Kelsey's injury. Just big picture, if it Lingers the

1535
01:16:54,200 --> 01:16:57,040
Speaker 1: Chris Jones situation. I'm not betting against the Chiefs as

1536
01:16:57,040 --> 01:16:59,360
Speaker 1: long as they got Andy and Mahomes. But I think

1537
01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:02,040
Speaker 1: the Steelers are team that could give them some you know,

1538
01:17:02,040 --> 01:17:03,760
Speaker 1: they have a coach that knows what he's doing. They

1539
01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:06,320
Speaker 1: have a staff you know that's been cohesive and just

1540
01:17:06,320 --> 01:17:09,240
Speaker 1: a legit roster. I could see the Steelers, you know,

1541
01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:11,320
Speaker 1: and given the Chiefs all they can handle as the

1542
01:17:11,320 --> 01:17:12,080
Speaker 1: season goes on.

1543
01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:14,719
Speaker 2: Well, i'll throw out another team in that. I'm still

1544
01:17:14,760 --> 01:17:16,479
Speaker 2: I still need to see more from Pickett, and like

1545
01:17:16,520 --> 01:17:18,680
Speaker 2: I don't really care what happens in the preseason, so

1546
01:17:18,720 --> 01:17:20,640
Speaker 2: I need to see more from him. And I'm not

1547
01:17:20,640 --> 01:17:25,240
Speaker 2: the biggest fan of their offensive coordinator, and just schematically,

1548
01:17:25,280 --> 01:17:26,960
Speaker 2: I think he leaves a lot on the table. But

1549
01:17:27,439 --> 01:17:30,400
Speaker 2: we'll see. You know that they're going to pull off

1550
01:17:30,439 --> 01:17:32,680
Speaker 2: some upsets tom On always does, which is going to

1551
01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:34,880
Speaker 2: help their case. It's a brutal path, a brutal schedule,

1552
01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:37,080
Speaker 2: brutal division, but a seam that if you want to

1553
01:17:37,080 --> 01:17:40,000
Speaker 2: buy the upside, I that's some Browns plus four hundred

1554
01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:43,160
Speaker 2: to win the division. They you know, I project them

1555
01:17:43,200 --> 01:17:45,519
Speaker 2: to win double digit games the Bengals of a first

1556
01:17:45,520 --> 01:17:48,200
Speaker 2: place schedule. There's some questions with the Bengals this year.

1557
01:17:48,320 --> 01:17:50,240
Speaker 2: You know, you lose your two safeties allowed allowed you

1558
01:17:50,280 --> 01:17:52,360
Speaker 2: to do so much on that defense. I don't remember

1559
01:17:52,360 --> 01:17:55,320
Speaker 2: it changed so much even within games. That's because he

1560
01:17:55,400 --> 01:17:58,400
Speaker 2: had two very reliable veteran safeteeds on the back end

1561
01:17:58,400 --> 01:18:02,479
Speaker 2: that just allow you so much flexibility. So we'll see

1562
01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:05,120
Speaker 2: the Bengals offensive line still have some questions. They're gonna

1563
01:18:05,120 --> 01:18:06,240
Speaker 2: be in the mix of thege of the playffs because

1564
01:18:06,240 --> 01:18:09,000
Speaker 2: they have Barrow in those receivers. But the Browns plus

1565
01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:13,599
Speaker 2: four hundred an easier schedule, and you're I'm just buying

1566
01:18:13,640 --> 01:18:17,280
Speaker 2: the upside of Watson getting back to you know, slightly

1567
01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:20,200
Speaker 2: above average. Doesn't have to get back to his elite

1568
01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:22,120
Speaker 2: play when he was in Houston. But I love what

1569
01:18:22,160 --> 01:18:25,640
Speaker 2: they did in the offseason. They bulked up in the interior.

1570
01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:28,680
Speaker 2: They to improve their run defense, right, you had to

1571
01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:32,920
Speaker 2: also improved at safety. They added speed at wide receiver

1572
01:18:33,040 --> 01:18:35,879
Speaker 2: and then a defensive coordinator higher it just went sideways

1573
01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:38,720
Speaker 2: there last year. There were so many communication issues on

1574
01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:42,360
Speaker 2: the back end. So if Watson can just you know,

1575
01:18:42,920 --> 01:18:46,400
Speaker 2: live up to even close to his expectation, you already

1576
01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:48,639
Speaker 2: have the running game, you already have that offensive line.

1577
01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:50,880
Speaker 2: I think the Browns are worth taking a flyer on.

1578
01:18:51,040 --> 01:18:52,280
Speaker 2: You want to buy the upside. You don't want to

1579
01:18:52,280 --> 01:18:53,759
Speaker 2: take the over on their wind total in the AFC.

1580
01:18:54,240 --> 01:18:56,759
Speaker 2: But if Watson, because it's all about can Watson actually

1581
01:18:57,240 --> 01:18:58,920
Speaker 2: get back to where he once was, I still have

1582
01:18:58,960 --> 01:19:02,120
Speaker 2: my doubts, but a plus four win that division, I

1583
01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:03,600
Speaker 2: think it's worth a shot.

1584
01:19:03,920 --> 01:19:06,440
Speaker 1: Because it wasn't. One of the issues is they went moneyball.

1585
01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:09,320
Speaker 1: They tried to be super fast on defense, and they

1586
01:19:09,320 --> 01:19:12,479
Speaker 1: were small and people just ran the ball down their throat.

1587
01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:15,920
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, guys, these coaches, if you have a

1588
01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:18,880
Speaker 1: small d tackle and small linebackers, they will just run

1589
01:19:18,920 --> 01:19:20,800
Speaker 1: it all day long. Like this isn't you don't just

1590
01:19:20,840 --> 01:19:23,679
Speaker 1: have to pass because it's quote unquote a passing league, right,

1591
01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:26,400
Speaker 1: They could not, And then obviously Watson when he came

1592
01:19:26,439 --> 01:19:28,479
Speaker 1: back was well. I guess Jakobe started the majority of

1593
01:19:28,520 --> 01:19:32,320
Speaker 1: the games and what about two teams that you know,

1594
01:19:32,880 --> 01:19:35,440
Speaker 1: I guess if Russell word to bounce back now he's

1595
01:19:35,520 --> 01:19:39,760
Speaker 1: been trending down for seasons and the Raiders. You know,

1596
01:19:40,280 --> 01:19:42,479
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to overreact to the preseason, but it

1597
01:19:42,520 --> 01:19:45,080
Speaker 1: feels like they just got a little more stability this offseason.

1598
01:19:45,160 --> 01:19:47,920
Speaker 1: Obviously before Chandler Jones the last couple of days, but

1599
01:19:48,040 --> 01:19:50,960
Speaker 1: Jimmy and Josh more on the same page than Derek.

1600
01:19:51,280 --> 01:19:53,560
Speaker 1: Could you see either one of those two teams being

1601
01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:55,800
Speaker 1: a ten win team. It's hard. With the Broncos, I mean,

1602
01:19:56,360 --> 01:19:58,240
Speaker 1: I got to see it out of Russ before, I believe,

1603
01:19:58,280 --> 01:20:00,720
Speaker 1: And Josh McDaniel's history as a head coach hasn't been good.

1604
01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:03,200
Speaker 1: But if you do look at their individual games last year,

1605
01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:06,760
Speaker 1: remember how many one score like they were leading and

1606
01:20:06,760 --> 01:20:09,719
Speaker 1: they would blow it. They actually they weren't your typical

1607
01:20:09,800 --> 01:20:12,040
Speaker 1: like seven win team where they just suck. They were

1608
01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:14,280
Speaker 1: winning the majority of the game that they lost.

1609
01:20:15,240 --> 01:20:17,760
Speaker 2: Yeah. Now, I personally can't make if you put either

1610
01:20:17,760 --> 01:20:21,360
Speaker 2: one of those teams in the NFC, they could make

1611
01:20:21,479 --> 01:20:25,879
Speaker 2: noise win win a division in that division in this conference,

1612
01:20:25,960 --> 01:20:29,800
Speaker 2: like you're gonna against so many elite quarterbacks. I just

1613
01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:32,800
Speaker 2: I can't see if Number one, the Broncos, by the way,

1614
01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:34,800
Speaker 2: are doing with a ton of injuries too heading into

1615
01:20:34,840 --> 01:20:37,479
Speaker 2: the season, which is an idea. Lost wide receivers, Yeah,

1616
01:20:37,560 --> 01:20:40,400
Speaker 2: running back their right tap mcglinchy's just coming back from injury.

1617
01:20:40,400 --> 01:20:42,200
Speaker 2: We'll see. The defense has to all kinds of guys

1618
01:20:42,200 --> 01:20:46,880
Speaker 2: on ir But I think Russ's cooked, so that eliminates

1619
01:20:46,920 --> 01:20:49,280
Speaker 2: them right away. I took their season win total under.

1620
01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:52,760
Speaker 2: Maybe Peyton can pull a rap it out of the hat,

1621
01:20:52,800 --> 01:20:56,200
Speaker 2: but Russ. What made Russ so great was his you know,

1622
01:20:56,600 --> 01:20:59,880
Speaker 2: his improvisation right, and he would run around, create play

1623
01:21:00,800 --> 01:21:01,960
Speaker 2: and he had one of the best deep balls in

1624
01:21:02,080 --> 01:21:05,360
Speaker 2: NFL history. It's just not there anymore, right, and we've

1625
01:21:05,360 --> 01:21:09,160
Speaker 2: seen it for years, and so I think he's cooked

1626
01:21:09,280 --> 01:21:11,760
Speaker 2: as we've seen, and I don't believe that until we

1627
01:21:11,840 --> 01:21:16,400
Speaker 2: see otherwise the Raiders, you know, Yeah, I'm not a

1628
01:21:16,479 --> 01:21:19,120
Speaker 2: McDaniel's guy in the defense. I just don't think that,

1629
01:21:19,280 --> 01:21:22,000
Speaker 2: especially on the back end, is good enough in the

1630
01:21:22,040 --> 01:21:26,559
Speaker 2: AFC to win enough games with a quarterback who's not

1631
01:21:26,600 --> 01:21:29,720
Speaker 2: elite and is gonna, you know, put up thirty five

1632
01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:32,800
Speaker 2: forty points in winning games and shootouts consistently enough to

1633
01:21:32,840 --> 01:21:36,200
Speaker 2: make noise in the AFC. So it's really difficult to

1634
01:21:36,240 --> 01:21:40,880
Speaker 2: see any team that doesn't have a top tier quarterback

1635
01:21:41,920 --> 01:21:44,280
Speaker 2: or you know, a quarterback that could emerge into someone

1636
01:21:44,439 --> 01:21:47,840
Speaker 2: who becomes close to elite making a run in the AFC.

1637
01:21:48,040 --> 01:21:50,080
Speaker 2: Think about if you get in right, like who you

1638
01:21:50,120 --> 01:21:54,920
Speaker 2: got to, who you have to get even got you

1639
01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:57,719
Speaker 2: have Lamar Jackson in the back of the new offense,

1640
01:21:57,720 --> 01:22:00,920
Speaker 2: will see what he looks like in the raid the list. Yeah,

1641
01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:05,800
Speaker 2: we brought Rogers to the AFC, and so it's it's

1642
01:22:05,840 --> 01:22:08,360
Speaker 2: a gauntlet. So it's really hard for me to see

1643
01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:10,920
Speaker 2: a team in the AFC that's in that middle tier

1644
01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:14,760
Speaker 2: really breaking through. It's very hard to make a case.

1645
01:22:15,080 --> 01:22:17,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's another team that I'm gonna pick to win

1646
01:22:17,720 --> 01:22:20,439
Speaker 1: the division. I'm gonna take the over is the Jets,

1647
01:22:20,680 --> 01:22:22,880
Speaker 1: just because I do think their formula is kind of

1648
01:22:22,880 --> 01:22:26,440
Speaker 1: going back to like when Lafloor first got there. Offensively,

1649
01:22:26,760 --> 01:22:28,640
Speaker 1: run the ball and try to be one of the

1650
01:22:28,720 --> 01:22:31,799
Speaker 1: leading rushing teams. And unlike some of the backer teams

1651
01:22:31,840 --> 01:22:35,799
Speaker 1: historically in Rogers era, their defense is undeniably pretty loaded

1652
01:22:35,840 --> 01:22:38,640
Speaker 1: and their d line kind of has feels of like

1653
01:22:38,680 --> 01:22:41,040
Speaker 1: that nineteen forty nine er team that you just couldn't

1654
01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:44,720
Speaker 1: block anybody, and they got multiple waves. So if you

1655
01:22:44,920 --> 01:22:47,920
Speaker 1: the formula, and I know people question their offensive line,

1656
01:22:48,120 --> 01:22:50,880
Speaker 1: I listen, they're not wrong. But if you lead the

1657
01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:53,559
Speaker 1: league in rushing, you can make average offensive line look good.

1658
01:22:53,560 --> 01:22:56,639
Speaker 1: If you run the ball right, and when your defense

1659
01:22:56,720 --> 01:23:00,000
Speaker 1: is just they have a lockdown corner and an unstopped

1660
01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:02,360
Speaker 1: You can't block all these guys. So if they ever

1661
01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:05,719
Speaker 1: get a lead, which Rogers, he doesn't get the credit

1662
01:23:05,960 --> 01:23:09,200
Speaker 1: for being like the cerebral Brady Manning breeze, but like

1663
01:23:09,320 --> 01:23:11,280
Speaker 1: watch him on Hard Knocks. The dude's a fucking savant,

1664
01:23:11,760 --> 01:23:14,840
Speaker 1: so he he doesn't he doesn't. He's not just ad

1665
01:23:14,880 --> 01:23:16,920
Speaker 1: libbing all the time like Rodge. Like he can play

1666
01:23:16,960 --> 01:23:19,560
Speaker 1: within the confent, you know, confines of the offense. I

1667
01:23:19,640 --> 01:23:21,400
Speaker 1: think the Jets are gonna be good, and I think

1668
01:23:21,400 --> 01:23:23,320
Speaker 1: you're gonna have a massive chip on this guy's shoulder,

1669
01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:26,160
Speaker 1: a little Brady twenty twenty version, and I think they're

1670
01:23:26,160 --> 01:23:28,519
Speaker 1: gonna they're gonna have to win some games if their

1671
01:23:28,520 --> 01:23:30,960
Speaker 1: offense is a little off, which they easily can't defensively,

1672
01:23:31,080 --> 01:23:33,720
Speaker 1: I think their defense is gonna be freaking dynamic.

1673
01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:37,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's and if you take into the advanced metrics

1674
01:23:37,800 --> 01:23:42,240
Speaker 2: last year, there there was nothing fluky about it. There

1675
01:23:42,280 --> 01:23:44,840
Speaker 2: wasn't like a bunch of turnovers or flute like. It

1676
01:23:44,880 --> 01:23:47,599
Speaker 2: was just their d line gets a ton ton of pressure.

1677
01:23:47,840 --> 01:23:50,680
Speaker 2: Sauce Gardner is the real deal. Uh if if you

1678
01:23:50,720 --> 01:23:52,439
Speaker 2: look at it, I was obsessed with him at college.

1679
01:23:52,479 --> 01:23:56,680
Speaker 2: He was. He didn't allow a touchdown in like in

1680
01:23:56,760 --> 01:24:01,040
Speaker 2: four years. His numbers were absolutely insane. Hayden, he came

1681
01:24:01,200 --> 01:24:02,360
Speaker 2: right in. I don't think it was gonna be that

1682
01:24:02,400 --> 01:24:04,120
Speaker 2: good right away, but when you have a lockdown corner,

1683
01:24:04,160 --> 01:24:06,679
Speaker 2: it can transition your defense even quicker. But the defense

1684
01:24:06,720 --> 01:24:08,400
Speaker 2: is there, it's all gonna be on the offensive line

1685
01:24:08,640 --> 01:24:11,080
Speaker 2: to reach their ceiling for sure. And then as long

1686
01:24:11,120 --> 01:24:13,280
Speaker 2: as Rogers and you said it with Rogers, like last

1687
01:24:13,360 --> 01:24:15,439
Speaker 2: year they just had an average quarterback. They could have

1688
01:24:15,520 --> 01:24:18,040
Speaker 2: made noise, right and they just they couldn't. They couldn't

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01:24:18,080 --> 01:24:22,000
Speaker 2: find any quarterback play. Rogers in NFL history has a

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01:24:22,080 --> 01:24:27,800
Speaker 2: one point four percent career interception rate. Nobody in NFL

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01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:30,160
Speaker 2: history is lower. Uh So he doesn't turn the ball over,

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01:24:30,200 --> 01:24:33,800
Speaker 2: He's not gonna lose your games. But if he you know,

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01:24:34,160 --> 01:24:36,280
Speaker 2: in order to get through the AFC, You're gonna no

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01:24:36,320 --> 01:24:38,479
Speaker 2: matter even how good the Jets defense is, you're gonna

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01:24:38,479 --> 01:24:40,080
Speaker 2: have to score. That offensive line iss gonna have to

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01:24:40,120 --> 01:24:43,080
Speaker 2: hold up. But the most important thing is Rogers is

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01:24:43,120 --> 01:24:46,240
Speaker 2: not spring chicken. He's gonna have to stay healthy. So

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01:24:46,320 --> 01:24:48,479
Speaker 2: the offensive line is gonna have to protect him. That's

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01:24:48,560 --> 01:24:51,800
Speaker 2: what I'm watching more than anything is can Rogers make

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01:24:51,800 --> 01:24:54,559
Speaker 2: it through the full season if the offensive line is

1701
01:24:54,600 --> 01:24:57,439
Speaker 2: getting cooked? So that might be the biggest thing to

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01:24:57,479 --> 01:24:59,519
Speaker 2: watch for the Jets. And then because if that happens,

1703
01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:01,519
Speaker 2: then you're right back to where you were last year.

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Speaker 1: You know what's funny about that number is ironically what

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01:25:05,040 --> 01:25:09,640
Speaker 1: makes him such an incredible all time great regular season player. Sometimes,

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01:25:09,640 --> 01:25:12,040
Speaker 1: like Aaron, you gotta, you know, push the envelope a

1707
01:25:12,040 --> 01:25:14,320
Speaker 1: little bit in the playoff game, and that's you know,

1708
01:25:14,360 --> 01:25:17,120
Speaker 1: that number. You got to take some chances. And maybe

1709
01:25:17,120 --> 01:25:19,040
Speaker 1: now he's got nothing to lose at forty years old,

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01:25:19,120 --> 01:25:22,559
Speaker 1: and obviously a lot like Tom you win with the

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01:25:22,600 --> 01:25:25,000
Speaker 1: Bucks or you win with the Jets. You talk about

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01:25:25,080 --> 01:25:27,560
Speaker 1: up in your legacy, I mean especially the Jets, I

1713
01:25:27,640 --> 01:25:30,320
Speaker 1: mean a franchise. The Bucks had won a Super Bowl

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01:25:30,520 --> 01:25:33,080
Speaker 1: recently and been good in the past, like this team

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01:25:33,120 --> 01:25:36,080
Speaker 1: has stucked for the majority of my life.

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01:25:36,120 --> 01:25:40,599
Speaker 2: So yeah, another thing to say about Mahomes by the way,

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01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:43,599
Speaker 2: uh you say, you know, Rogers sometimes gets a little

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01:25:43,600 --> 01:25:48,640
Speaker 2: gun shy. Mahomes never gun shy. Mahomes third lowest interception

1719
01:25:48,760 --> 01:25:52,040
Speaker 2: rate in NFL history one point six percent, which is

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01:25:52,080 --> 01:25:54,519
Speaker 2: pretty crazy for some of the throws that he makes.

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01:25:55,000 --> 01:25:57,639
Speaker 1: A good nugget. Well, Stuckey, glad to have you back

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Speaker 1: to let everyone know where they can they can find

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Speaker 1: in here you.

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Speaker 1: Well Stucky Let's roll baby.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's good to be back full Saturdays and full

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Speaker 2: Sundays the couch. It's nice to be back on the

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Speaker 2: couch and hitting the bars with football on. So hope

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Speaker 1: You have some cocktails on me. The volume