WEBVTT - Questlove Supreme: Slum Village Part 2 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:03.040 Quest Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. 0:00:04.920 --> 0:00:07.840 Welcome back to QLs. This is Sugar Steve from Team Supreme. 0:00:08.160 --> 0:00:10.200 Last week we gave you part one of our interview 0:00:10.200 --> 0:00:13.000 with Slum Village members T three and Young RJ. In 0:00:13.000 --> 0:00:15.280 that interview, they talked about their early days of Slum 0:00:15.360 --> 0:00:17.239 Village and somebody that I got to know during the 0:00:17.280 --> 0:00:20.320 Soul Clarian's era, the late great Jay Dilla. It's always 0:00:20.360 --> 0:00:22.560 great to hear from people who worked with him firsthand 0:00:22.680 --> 0:00:24.640 and got to know him from a young age. Please 0:00:24.680 --> 0:00:26.760 make sure you check out that episode if you haven't. 0:00:26.920 --> 0:00:29.520 Now we have part two as Quest Love Supreme celebrates 0:00:29.600 --> 0:00:31.720 fifty years of hip hop all August. 0:00:31.880 --> 0:00:32.839 We hope you enjoy it. 0:00:36.760 --> 0:00:40.040 I remember one of the earliest arguments I had with 0:00:41.120 --> 0:00:42.840 we were just talking about we were going through song 0:00:42.920 --> 0:00:47.760 for song, and you know, I was explaining that the 0:00:47.800 --> 0:00:51.080 frustrating thing about making things fall apart was the fact 0:00:51.159 --> 0:00:57.480 that Malik and just his very weird Malik's almost like 0:00:57.520 --> 0:01:01.040 batman like Malik shows up to the studio at like 0:01:01.080 --> 0:01:04.720 three am, like when the engineers just cleaning up and 0:01:04.800 --> 0:01:08.000 ready to go home, and he would always just come 0:01:08.040 --> 0:01:09.319 in at like odd hours. 0:01:09.360 --> 0:01:12.520 One thirty am. Two are at thirty am and look 0:01:12.560 --> 0:01:12.959 on the. 0:01:12.880 --> 0:01:17.360 Floor, go to the corner, and he would read the 0:01:17.400 --> 0:01:19.480 reels off like Okay, what do they work on today, 0:01:20.200 --> 0:01:21.280 and that sister, an. 0:01:21.080 --> 0:01:21.880 Engineer, don't know. 0:01:21.959 --> 0:01:24.240 So he's just like, well, here's the merest beats he 0:01:24.280 --> 0:01:27.320 would make, and here's da da da dada, and Malie 0:01:27.360 --> 0:01:29.199 would just be like, hey, put one of them things 0:01:29.240 --> 0:01:32.440 up now. The thing is is that you know, I'm 0:01:32.480 --> 0:01:35.280 also using this album period, like you know, there's other 0:01:35.280 --> 0:01:38.240 projects I'm working on, but I'm also using this album 0:01:38.240 --> 0:01:42.280 period to develop my sound or try to figure out 0:01:42.280 --> 0:01:46.240 what my sound is as a producer. And so I'm 0:01:46.319 --> 0:01:50.040 practicing stuff that dyl is teaching me, like he taught 0:01:50.080 --> 0:01:52.360 me shit on the twelve hundred. I didn't know he 0:01:52.400 --> 0:01:55.320 taught me stuff on my mbat so and I'm sure 0:01:55.360 --> 0:01:58.000 that you know about this RJ, Like you go through 0:01:58.000 --> 0:02:02.760 this period as a beat maker where you need to 0:02:02.840 --> 0:02:05.880 practice first and emulate, like first I did the Bomb Squad, 0:02:05.920 --> 0:02:07.920 then all right, I'm gonna practice this Barley Mall track, 0:02:07.960 --> 0:02:10.280 and then I'm gonna practice this premiere track or whatever, 0:02:10.440 --> 0:02:14.080 like you gotta practice before. And the thing was Malik 0:02:14.120 --> 0:02:17.680 would always he would do complete songs to shit that 0:02:17.720 --> 0:02:21.680 I never intended for the public to hear, and I 0:02:21.760 --> 0:02:24.440 told it was hitting me that I was hell bit. 0:02:24.720 --> 0:02:27.279 I was like, Yo, there's no way. 0:02:27.040 --> 0:02:30.920 That I'm gonna let my slum influence out on this 0:02:31.040 --> 0:02:35.600 roots record. And it would only happen when like Malik 0:02:35.680 --> 0:02:38.800 would just unknowingly take some shit that I had no 0:02:38.880 --> 0:02:41.560 intention for y'all to hear. A good example is like 0:02:42.480 --> 0:02:45.560 the table Content song that intros the album, or that 0:02:46.440 --> 0:02:49.119 don't see Us We See You, like shit, I never 0:02:49.240 --> 0:02:50.760 intended for the public to hear. 0:02:51.400 --> 0:02:56.640 So for you though, Like again, is it is that weird? 0:02:57.040 --> 0:03:00.639 Like to know that you're that that influence, like you're 0:03:00.639 --> 0:03:02.880 a pioneer before you're an artist yourself. 0:03:03.680 --> 0:03:06.920 Yeah, I mean, I mean, I'm definitely thankful, but man, 0:03:07.760 --> 0:03:08.240 I don't know. 0:03:08.280 --> 0:03:10.239 Man, I have to thank Dyla of course. 0:03:10.160 --> 0:03:12.440 And I would have to thank all of my mentors man, 0:03:12.560 --> 0:03:14.519 like an filler R J. 0:03:15.080 --> 0:03:15.360 Rice. 0:03:16.200 --> 0:03:17.960 I mean, we had a lot of people that was 0:03:18.560 --> 0:03:21.919 that was really just looking out for no reason at all, 0:03:22.000 --> 0:03:24.000 you know what I'm saying, which was especially for me. 0:03:24.080 --> 0:03:26.120 I didn't even grow up with a father, so you're 0:03:26.120 --> 0:03:28.680 telling me this random dude named a Philly gonna let 0:03:28.680 --> 0:03:31.359 you come in his house, you know, make some. 0:03:32.440 --> 0:03:34.960 You know what I'm saying. You know, rap to do 0:03:35.040 --> 0:03:35.840 all of this just. 0:03:35.800 --> 0:03:37.760 Because he wanted to make sure we ain't in the 0:03:37.800 --> 0:03:40.280 streets doing no foolishness, you know what I'm saying. So 0:03:41.040 --> 0:03:44.720 like we had, we had the community, the whole slum 0:03:44.840 --> 0:03:48.320 village as you will, that was helping us, you know 0:03:48.320 --> 0:03:48.760 what I'm. 0:03:48.600 --> 0:03:49.680 Saying, r J. 0:03:49.840 --> 0:03:52.600 I wanted to ask you, man specifically with your dad 0:03:52.680 --> 0:03:54.640 being you know who he was in the game and 0:03:54.760 --> 0:03:57.680 you know, just having that base for RJ's Las arrival, 0:03:57.880 --> 0:04:00.280 what was some of the things he taught you You 0:04:00.320 --> 0:04:04.120 talked about musically, but like business wise, were they any 0:04:04.160 --> 0:04:07.400 principles or just kind of things that game he gave 0:04:07.440 --> 0:04:09.040 you that kind of helped you in your journey. 0:04:09.680 --> 0:04:11.960 Yeah, he just told me, never take a man's dignity. 0:04:12.440 --> 0:04:14.520 You don't want to put a man in a position 0:04:14.560 --> 0:04:17.600 of where he got a bed or and never wait 0:04:17.760 --> 0:04:19.880 to pay a man, you know what I'm saying. Because 0:04:19.880 --> 0:04:22.800 he got a family that he's taken care of as well, 0:04:23.320 --> 0:04:24.720 you know what I'm saying, And he waiting on that 0:04:24.839 --> 0:04:27.120 money to come, just like you waiting on the. 0:04:27.080 --> 0:04:27.720 Money to come. 0:04:28.040 --> 0:04:29.200 So you know what I'm saying, it's a lot of 0:04:29.240 --> 0:04:32.159 Jews that he taught me with how to do business 0:04:32.279 --> 0:04:36.520 and you know, cultivating relationships and things like that. You know, 0:04:36.680 --> 0:04:39.240 some things you may have to do for free, you 0:04:39.279 --> 0:04:41.719 know what I'm saying, in order to grow the business. 0:04:41.880 --> 0:04:43.440 So you know, it's a lot. 0:04:43.560 --> 0:04:45.160 You know. I thank them all the time. You know 0:04:45.200 --> 0:04:45.560 what I'm saying. 0:04:45.600 --> 0:04:48.920 I couldn't have had a better father mentor. And I 0:04:49.000 --> 0:04:49.800 enjoy working. 0:04:49.600 --> 0:04:50.039 With him too. 0:04:50.440 --> 0:04:51.440 Look is your mom? 0:04:51.480 --> 0:04:54.120 She still singing, She's still saying. They just put a 0:04:54.120 --> 0:04:56.520 new song out. They just dropped a new song. 0:04:56.720 --> 0:05:00.440 Yep, that's what's up man, that's beautiful. I feel an 0:05:00.480 --> 0:05:04.000 audio recording. It's the craziest thing I ever heard of 0:05:04.040 --> 0:05:09.320 my life. It's an audio recording. And I'm assuming that 0:05:09.360 --> 0:05:12.320 you're holding a video camera. You guys are in a 0:05:12.360 --> 0:05:15.080 car together and this is the only I only know 0:05:15.120 --> 0:05:19.479 the audio part of it. And Dylan's driving and you 0:05:19.560 --> 0:05:23.640 ask him a question, you say, hey, man, what's the day? 0:05:26.839 --> 0:05:27.000 Oh? 0:05:27.040 --> 0:05:30.839 You know about this? Okay? It just yours me every 0:05:30.839 --> 0:05:33.640 time I hear it. You're like, hey, what's the day, man? 0:05:33.920 --> 0:05:36.240 And Dyl's like, I don't know Thursday. He said, no, man, 0:05:36.279 --> 0:05:41.320 what's today, And Dyla's like, oh, okay, it's February tenth. 0:05:42.200 --> 0:05:44.360 He's like, yeah, man, what's the day. 0:05:45.000 --> 0:05:48.479 He's like, yeah, man, February tenth is the first day 0:05:48.520 --> 0:05:52.120 that we're making our new album, Fantastic Volume two, Baby 0:05:52.240 --> 0:05:54.120 Da Da Dah, and y'all just talk about it. 0:05:54.640 --> 0:05:58.680 Yeah, man, I'm just like it. Really. 0:05:59.279 --> 0:06:01.800 I was like, wow, just you know, because for a 0:06:01.839 --> 0:06:04.840 lot of us, February tenth being the day of his transitioning, 0:06:06.040 --> 0:06:09.400 it's such a you know, such a thing for those 0:06:09.440 --> 0:06:12.280 that you know, follow his music so closely. But to 0:06:12.320 --> 0:06:15.599 hear that clip and the excitement of you guys like 0:06:15.680 --> 0:06:19.160 talking about your future and all those things like will 0:06:19.240 --> 0:06:20.520 that often happen? 0:06:21.080 --> 0:06:23.240 We had to you gotta understand this. 0:06:23.320 --> 0:06:26.279 First of all, Plumb Village had to wait for Dilla 0:06:26.360 --> 0:06:29.320 to blow because Yla is you know what I'm saying, 0:06:29.839 --> 0:06:33.159 So I was still kind of hungry and broke me 0:06:33.240 --> 0:06:37.080 in ten and Dealer was making money already, you know 0:06:37.080 --> 0:06:37.719 what I'm saying. 0:06:38.279 --> 0:06:41.120 So we had to wait on that. So we had 0:06:41.120 --> 0:06:41.720 to be patient. 0:06:41.800 --> 0:06:44.400 So for the day for us all to come together 0:06:44.440 --> 0:06:48.159 and say this is the official day for us to 0:06:48.200 --> 0:06:50.480 work on this shout out to Windy Goldstein, who was 0:06:50.520 --> 0:06:55.320 who was lacing a lot of us I know. 0:06:56.800 --> 0:06:59.640 Was that was my saving grace too? 0:07:00.160 --> 0:07:03.279 Yes, that's what I'm saying. She layd us all. And 0:07:03.320 --> 0:07:05.800 you know we got that opportunity to really just go 0:07:05.839 --> 0:07:07.920 in there and do it. And guess what, we had 0:07:07.960 --> 0:07:09.760 no guidance, you. 0:07:09.720 --> 0:07:10.680 Know, you know what I'm saying. 0:07:10.680 --> 0:07:12.440 They just let us do what we want to do 0:07:12.920 --> 0:07:15.160 and which is beautiful, you know what I'm saying. And 0:07:15.200 --> 0:07:18.880 shout out to our jail for solid solidifying that deal. 0:07:19.600 --> 0:07:22.360 I wish, I wish now I think about it. We 0:07:22.440 --> 0:07:24.920 had a couple of deals on the table. I wanted 0:07:24.960 --> 0:07:27.160 to go with death Jam in my heart because we 0:07:27.240 --> 0:07:30.240 did have a possible situation with death Jam, but we 0:07:30.320 --> 0:07:31.680 decided to go who we went with. 0:07:33.440 --> 0:07:35.360 Yes, so there was a deaf Jam deal on the 0:07:35.440 --> 0:07:38.400 table and Interscope and any other labels or. 0:07:39.880 --> 0:07:44.280 It was about five I think universal. Yeah, we had 0:07:44.360 --> 0:07:46.480 some deals, but we just chose what we chose. And 0:07:46.560 --> 0:07:49.440 I think we were with a M first, which was terrible. 0:07:50.000 --> 0:07:53.120 Did you guys at all work with John McLean? 0:07:54.080 --> 0:07:57.320 John McLean is the one who got who was like 0:07:57.640 --> 0:07:59.120 part of getting the deal at. 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:02.640 John McLean is one of those figures that you know, 0:08:02.840 --> 0:08:05.680 even I'm working on the slide doc right now, and 0:08:06.000 --> 0:08:11.160 he's a part of SLID's eighties, you know, attempted several 0:08:11.240 --> 0:08:13.880 attempts to come back or whatnot. But he's one of 0:08:13.920 --> 0:08:18.000 those brothers that's so elusive in terms of like talking 0:08:18.040 --> 0:08:18.840 to the press or whatever. 0:08:19.200 --> 0:08:22.840 What What were your interactions like with John McLean? 0:08:23.400 --> 0:08:24.160 I didn't have many. 0:08:24.280 --> 0:08:27.480 I was mostly your dad and management talking to him. 0:08:27.840 --> 0:08:33.040 I was really brief I had so that was mostly 0:08:33.640 --> 0:08:38.000 r J and Tim. Tim Maynor mostly spoke to him. 0:08:38.160 --> 0:08:40.679 Most of the time I was out of business. I 0:08:40.840 --> 0:08:43.080 was such a studio nerd. 0:08:43.160 --> 0:08:44.720 I was. That's what I was at. 0:08:44.920 --> 0:08:48.280 Yeah, I didn't care to meet executives and all those 0:08:48.320 --> 0:08:50.880 things anyway, Like that was like my manager did that. 0:08:51.040 --> 0:08:54.680 But you know, occasionally I would have to have conversations 0:08:54.720 --> 0:08:57.559 about like the concept of the group or you know, 0:08:57.600 --> 0:08:59.120 those sort of things that you don't want to have 0:08:59.240 --> 0:09:00.880 with label exists and whatnot. 0:09:01.520 --> 0:09:03.040 How did that deal fall apart? 0:09:03.200 --> 0:09:08.079 Because I thought I saw a tangible version of what 0:09:08.200 --> 0:09:12.360 I thought was a fantastic volume two on Interscoope later 0:09:12.440 --> 0:09:14.040 found out it was a bootleg or whatever. 0:09:14.200 --> 0:09:16.600 But I'm gonna tell you how it fell fell apart. 0:09:16.800 --> 0:09:21.040 This is how no disrespect, but what happened was corrupt. 0:09:21.440 --> 0:09:27.960 He decides to double album. Oh no, the West versus 0:09:28.120 --> 0:09:31.880 the East. Yeah, I know that album shut down the 0:09:32.040 --> 0:09:39.080 whole rap department because the lack yes and guess who 0:09:39.200 --> 0:09:43.240 was right next after that? It was slum Village, then 0:09:43.360 --> 0:09:45.400 the boot leg on top of that, it was like, well, 0:09:46.280 --> 0:09:46.880 the only thing. 0:09:46.800 --> 0:09:47.160 We could do. 0:09:48.240 --> 0:09:50.079 I guess we're gonnnna start touring in Europe. So we 0:09:50.240 --> 0:09:52.679 was able to tour Europe in ninety nine. 0:09:52.760 --> 0:09:54.719 That was super early for us to go down there 0:09:55.040 --> 0:09:58.559 to our first European tour, which was an ordell too, 0:09:58.600 --> 0:10:01.360 because they'll act like he left lost his passport for 0:10:01.440 --> 0:10:02.839 a while because he didn't want to go because he 0:10:02.880 --> 0:10:04.480 had to finish some remixes. 0:10:04.800 --> 0:10:06.520 It was like, man, this was just going on. 0:10:06.679 --> 0:10:08.480 I can't find a passport ship. 0:10:11.160 --> 0:10:13.880 So yeah, I was about to say, how so this 0:10:14.000 --> 0:10:17.199 is also the period in which like he's gonna leave 0:10:17.280 --> 0:10:21.280 the group or whatever, So explain how just the adjustment 0:10:21.600 --> 0:10:24.480 readjusting the group without him on stage with you. 0:10:25.360 --> 0:10:28.920 Well, he he didn't. He said he would do select shows. 0:10:29.360 --> 0:10:32.040 He's gonna do the West Coast. He was gonna do 0:10:32.160 --> 0:10:36.120 Detroit maybe something else. That was all he was even 0:10:36.160 --> 0:10:38.040 when he was going to Okay player you need. 0:10:38.440 --> 0:10:40.599 You know what I'm saying. So we got him for 0:10:40.640 --> 0:10:41.720 two shows at least. 0:10:42.160 --> 0:10:45.000 Right, You're right, you got shows, right, So that's all 0:10:45.080 --> 0:10:47.080 he was gonna do because he wanted to hitch up 0:10:47.120 --> 0:10:49.719 with all his work at that time, you know what 0:10:49.760 --> 0:10:52.400 I'm saying, because he was hot and people wanted those 0:10:52.600 --> 0:10:56.120 those remixes like asap, so you know he was doing 0:10:56.160 --> 0:10:58.640 all that. Then he was producing all different albums, so 0:10:58.880 --> 0:11:02.559 he just wasn't there. Now the whole thing when he 0:11:02.679 --> 0:11:05.440 decided to leave, you know what I'm saying. We had 0:11:05.480 --> 0:11:08.280 a brand new deal on the table, right, you know 0:11:08.320 --> 0:11:10.760 what I'm saying. That was the whole Capitol deal. 0:11:10.880 --> 0:11:12.880 So it was like where you going. We got a 0:11:12.920 --> 0:11:18.360 whole situation, you know what I'm saying. But he decides 0:11:18.400 --> 0:11:18.880 to go and do. 0:11:18.920 --> 0:11:21.040 It, does the n C A deal, you know what 0:11:21.040 --> 0:11:23.679 I'm saying, that with frankin Denk and get his own 0:11:23.720 --> 0:11:25.240 label situation popping over there. 0:11:25.920 --> 0:11:28.120 So I mean he's that and told me, man, you're 0:11:28.120 --> 0:11:29.080 gonna have to take over the group. 0:11:29.160 --> 0:11:29.319 Man. 0:11:29.480 --> 0:11:32.360 I did not want to because I enjoy being the 0:11:32.400 --> 0:11:35.600 middle main by the way, you know, less pressure. 0:11:36.000 --> 0:11:38.240 I just I wanted to be gone, you know what 0:11:38.280 --> 0:11:41.280 I'm saying about. You know, So it was it was 0:11:41.400 --> 0:11:42.400 hard to restructure. 0:11:42.480 --> 0:11:45.160 So one of the main pieces I had is is 0:11:45.200 --> 0:11:46.719 all the people at the studio, and one of the 0:11:46.800 --> 0:11:49.240 main people was was young Jay. So me and him 0:11:49.320 --> 0:11:53.240 was already bonding over beats and doing stuff, and then 0:11:53.360 --> 0:11:56.160 by ten, you know, was barely showing up. Kind of 0:11:56.280 --> 0:11:58.280 like we're dealing with with Malik b. You don't you 0:11:58.360 --> 0:12:02.959 know what he's gonna record to the friend that we 0:12:03.120 --> 0:12:07.640 wasn't even working on, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, Okay, 0:12:08.080 --> 0:12:10.400 he had this machine in the back and he would 0:12:10.480 --> 0:12:13.520 just make songs all day in these machines from the 0:12:13.600 --> 0:12:16.280 randomnest beats. I don't know, you know, someone was watching, 0:12:16.440 --> 0:12:18.920 Someone was this, someone was that you just didn't know, 0:12:19.920 --> 0:12:22.559 and were trying to piece this album together, and it 0:12:22.640 --> 0:12:25.400 was it was a difficult process, you know what I'm saying. 0:12:25.480 --> 0:12:27.600 But we got through it, you know, luckily. 0:12:28.000 --> 0:12:31.520 That's how we got close with Kareem, and Kareem contributed 0:12:31.559 --> 0:12:36.120 and them and Black Milks, you know, coming up and 0:12:36.600 --> 0:12:38.800 all this at one time and you know, I had 0:12:38.840 --> 0:12:41.559 to mix it up. I had to make some magic. 0:12:42.880 --> 0:12:44.480 Yeah, I wanted to ask you man, I had to. 0:12:44.840 --> 0:12:47.920 I had a blessing before he passed to talk with 0:12:47.920 --> 0:12:50.400 about ten. I interviewed him this has been it has 0:12:50.440 --> 0:12:53.719 been years ago, and he talked very openly about like 0:12:54.000 --> 0:12:56.319 his like mental illness and just kind of things he 0:12:56.440 --> 0:12:59.400 was struggling with. How do you manage that? I mean, 0:12:59.600 --> 0:13:02.199 navigate in the group is hard enough as it is. 0:13:02.640 --> 0:13:05.800 How do you manage that having someone in your group 0:13:05.880 --> 0:13:09.640 that has those kind of specific problems. How did y'all 0:13:09.679 --> 0:13:10.679 navigate that as a crew? 0:13:11.600 --> 0:13:11.800 Well? 0:13:12.920 --> 0:13:16.240 Number one, when you're young like me and we was, 0:13:16.559 --> 0:13:18.679 you think, Okay, he just eclectic. 0:13:18.559 --> 0:13:19.200 You know what I'm saying. 0:13:21.440 --> 0:13:25.160 You don't think it's something clinical, you. 0:13:25.200 --> 0:13:28.120 Know what I'm saying. Once I figured out that it 0:13:28.280 --> 0:13:29.439 was a real situation. 0:13:30.040 --> 0:13:32.560 We was at the Climax, we did the Climax video 0:13:33.600 --> 0:13:38.800 and his sister had had a spell or whatever that 0:13:38.920 --> 0:13:41.240 we had to shut down, you know, the video, and. 0:13:41.679 --> 0:13:43.400 It was is it Tina Tina Marie? 0:13:43.520 --> 0:13:45.240 Is that Tina Yeah? 0:13:46.000 --> 0:13:48.240 Yeah, song on the record. She had a spell. Man, 0:13:48.240 --> 0:13:50.920 we had to shut down. It was a bit much. 0:13:51.040 --> 0:13:54.280 I've never seen anything like that. It's scared the daylights 0:13:54.320 --> 0:13:56.160 out of it, you know what I'm saying. 0:13:56.320 --> 0:13:58.480 Wait, when you guys were shooting the climax video in 0:13:58.840 --> 0:14:01.559 La Oh Ship, I didn't even know. 0:14:01.720 --> 0:14:04.480 Okay, you was right there, but you wasn't You didn't 0:14:04.480 --> 0:14:05.040 see all of that. 0:14:05.480 --> 0:14:09.040 Well, yeah, because y'all just keeping the car listening to 0:14:09.120 --> 0:14:13.240 the beats. That was the diversion. Sit here, listen to 0:14:13.240 --> 0:14:15.760 it for two hours. I say, oh, I'm in heaven. Great, 0:14:16.720 --> 0:14:17.160 y'all ready. 0:14:20.680 --> 0:14:23.480 Yeah, she had a hole spell and then she and 0:14:23.560 --> 0:14:26.840 then I knew it was uh, bipolar schizophrenia and uh, 0:14:27.160 --> 0:14:30.640 and we figured out it ran in the family, you know, 0:14:31.400 --> 0:14:34.400 about ten even and so I didn't really know, Like 0:14:34.520 --> 0:14:36.120 I said, I just thought he was a collected Then 0:14:36.160 --> 0:14:37.600 it just got worse and worse. 0:14:38.320 --> 0:14:40.640 Until the point where it was it was it was 0:14:40.720 --> 0:14:42.560 a bit much to we have to have a. 0:14:42.560 --> 0:14:45.120 Whole handler kind of like ODB you had to have 0:14:45.200 --> 0:14:48.720 a handler with ten Okay, this is your job, QD. 0:14:49.760 --> 0:14:52.200 I remember one time this guy we about to go 0:14:52.360 --> 0:14:54.640 on stage. I'm talking about ten minutes before we go 0:14:54.720 --> 0:14:57.960 on stage, he decides to go grocery shopping. 0:14:58.840 --> 0:15:03.800 Like word, I'm very familiar with actions like these, Yeah, 0:15:07.080 --> 0:15:09.840 you very and this is after this is you talking about? 0:15:09.880 --> 0:15:14.920 This is after fantastic, this this Trinity time on Capitol already. 0:15:15.360 --> 0:15:19.600 Yeah, we're on Capital's. Yes, it just got worse and worse. 0:15:19.880 --> 0:15:22.320 Man, But you know, did he did he have a 0:15:22.400 --> 0:15:25.160 reaction at all to I always wanted to know if 0:15:26.200 --> 0:15:28.840 because people often ask us, like, you know, what was 0:15:28.920 --> 0:15:31.400 Malie B's response to water when he heard it? 0:15:31.520 --> 0:15:37.240 But lses versus and reunion? Did he ever respond to that? 0:15:37.480 --> 0:15:41.280 Or you know, yes, he they they talked. They talked 0:15:41.360 --> 0:15:43.720 on the side or the building. He l was not 0:15:43.760 --> 0:15:45.520 even talked to him before that. He put out the 0:15:45.680 --> 0:15:50.760 verse so so and at this time by Tim was 0:15:50.920 --> 0:15:53.000 kind of not doing so well and he kind of 0:15:53.080 --> 0:15:55.880 showed up at the show on the side or the 0:15:56.000 --> 0:15:59.360 door like like what El said, right, and you know what. 0:15:59.400 --> 0:16:02.160 I'm saying, And it was it was. It was a 0:16:02.240 --> 0:16:02.880 tough situation. 0:16:03.600 --> 0:16:06.720 That's that's the reason why I brought Pam back in 0:16:06.800 --> 0:16:09.560 the group afterwards, because I just wanted him to try 0:16:09.600 --> 0:16:10.440 to get itself together. 0:16:10.480 --> 0:16:11.960 You know what I'm saying, take this medication. 0:16:12.160 --> 0:16:16.360 Because I learned in the music biz there is a 0:16:16.440 --> 0:16:18.680 lot of people who's struggling and just deal with it 0:16:18.720 --> 0:16:19.160 every day. 0:16:19.640 --> 0:16:21.280 It's real, like a lot of us are caring a 0:16:21.360 --> 0:16:26.440 lot of what they call epigenetics kind of passed down 0:16:26.480 --> 0:16:29.400 through generations. Your grant great grandfather had something, now your 0:16:29.400 --> 0:16:32.000 grandfather has, and your father has and so on and 0:16:32.080 --> 0:16:32.600 so forth. 0:16:37.840 --> 0:16:39.800 I always wanted to know, you know. 0:16:39.920 --> 0:16:43.920 It's also with with the Trinity record, where you guys 0:16:44.080 --> 0:16:48.040 really did have like your moment in the sun, especially 0:16:48.200 --> 0:16:51.200 like with Detroit Delhi and with Trinity, I mean you 0:16:51.320 --> 0:16:53.280 have something that even roots can't claim, which is like 0:16:53.360 --> 0:16:56.280 you got fully embraced by like the one oh six 0:16:56.360 --> 0:17:00.160 in the Park audience, and there's a moment where where 0:17:00.160 --> 0:17:04.600 it's almost that slum village, I mean, whether you look 0:17:04.600 --> 0:17:08.000 at as an eclipse or a shadow of Dila versus 0:17:08.119 --> 0:17:11.240 o Dyla's group where you guys on your own are 0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:12.679 about to. 0:17:14.480 --> 0:17:17.200 You know, find an audience, find a home, find a 0:17:17.320 --> 0:17:18.119 groove in a movement. 0:17:18.480 --> 0:17:20.680 Where did it feel like like with the with the 0:17:20.760 --> 0:17:24.960 success of of Taint It and also working with like 0:17:25.240 --> 0:17:29.560 Kanye on Selfish Selfish? Yeah, can you talk about that 0:17:29.640 --> 0:17:31.120 period number one? 0:17:31.200 --> 0:17:33.720 It was the it was a hurt feeling for me 0:17:33.880 --> 0:17:36.840 man for uh, you know, I'm not having Dila a 0:17:37.000 --> 0:17:37.639 part of it. 0:17:38.280 --> 0:17:39.359 To get a touchdown, but. 0:17:40.160 --> 0:17:43.680 Yeah, yeah, not officially part. I mean we made sure 0:17:43.720 --> 0:17:45.960 he produced records on it. We was gonna do that. 0:17:46.600 --> 0:17:50.080 But like when we did the video shoot for a selfish, 0:17:50.720 --> 0:17:53.359 you know what I'm saying, and and uh, you know, 0:17:53.480 --> 0:17:54.480 it was a glorious day. 0:17:54.600 --> 0:17:58.240 It was three hundred women there. It was pretty ridiculous. 0:17:59.000 --> 0:18:01.399 You know, you got Kanye, you got John Legend. And 0:18:01.520 --> 0:18:03.040 then I was like, man, I heard Dealer was say 0:18:03.080 --> 0:18:04.720 I didn't even get a chance to talk to Deler 0:18:04.760 --> 0:18:07.960 with so many people, so much going on, you know 0:18:08.040 --> 0:18:10.600 what I'm saying, And I just felt that detached that 0:18:10.720 --> 0:18:13.560 I never wanted to feel with hell, you know what 0:18:13.600 --> 0:18:17.040 I'm saying, kind of like yeah, you know, but you know, 0:18:17.080 --> 0:18:19.679 I'm a happy I'm I made it in a good space, 0:18:19.800 --> 0:18:22.639 but at that time I wanted it to be what 0:18:22.800 --> 0:18:25.879 it was, but but it couldn't be, you know what 0:18:25.960 --> 0:18:29.400 I'm saying. So I was always like that, man, every 0:18:29.440 --> 0:18:31.720 time I have success with Slum Village, I would always 0:18:31.760 --> 0:18:35.639 be like caught into somewhere or some situation where I. 0:18:36.400 --> 0:18:39.560 Can't even enjoy this, you know what I'm saying. 0:18:41.160 --> 0:18:43.960 I'm just not getting to a space now with some village, man, Jay, 0:18:44.000 --> 0:18:46.359 where I can I enjoy what I do, you know 0:18:46.400 --> 0:18:48.560 what I'm saying and kind of do that. But it 0:18:48.640 --> 0:18:51.240 took a while because it was just so much conflict. 0:18:51.280 --> 0:18:53.680 It was always something new every day, you know what 0:18:53.720 --> 0:18:54.120 I'm saying. 0:18:54.359 --> 0:18:54.600 See. 0:18:54.640 --> 0:18:57.720 But the thing was this though, three, because when you 0:18:57.840 --> 0:19:01.040 were shooting, like I called Dealer to come to the 0:19:02.280 --> 0:19:05.520 Selfish video shoot. So when he get there, we're watching 0:19:05.560 --> 0:19:10.440 him shoot and he like, Yo, man, y'all good, y'all 0:19:10.480 --> 0:19:11.360 don't need me no more. 0:19:12.160 --> 0:19:15.359 And I'm like, bro, what is you talking about? 0:19:15.480 --> 0:19:15.680 Shit? 0:19:15.800 --> 0:19:16.440 What were doing? 0:19:16.680 --> 0:19:18.800 You? You the foundation? We always gonna need you. 0:19:19.480 --> 0:19:21.760 We're like, nah, nah, y'all need me no more? 0:19:21.880 --> 0:19:22.960 Man, you know. 0:19:23.800 --> 0:19:26.120 And I'm like he had just got out the hospital. 0:19:26.240 --> 0:19:28.080 I'm like, this weird, you know what I'm saying, But 0:19:28.480 --> 0:19:32.240 you rolling with it. So it was like things along 0:19:32.320 --> 0:19:33.000 the way, you. 0:19:33.040 --> 0:19:35.000 Know what I'm saying that he was saying to kind 0:19:35.040 --> 0:19:38.399 of like I don't want to say, like prepare everybody 0:19:38.680 --> 0:19:41.600 for what I think he felt was coming. So but 0:19:42.000 --> 0:19:44.880 that was like the last time that I saw him 0:19:45.720 --> 0:19:49.280 in person where you know, everybody was there and able 0:19:49.400 --> 0:19:50.840 to kick it. 0:19:50.920 --> 0:19:53.360 And have fun. Man. 0:19:53.400 --> 0:19:56.199 I wanted to ask y'all, what was the the how 0:19:56.280 --> 0:19:58.600 did it come about with bringing Elsie in the group? 0:19:59.720 --> 0:19:59.760 What? 0:20:00.040 --> 0:20:05.359 Well, let me tell you this. That was a necessity. 0:20:05.720 --> 0:20:06.000 Okay. 0:20:06.080 --> 0:20:10.800 So here's the situation. I'm managing l Zi that that 0:20:10.960 --> 0:20:15.560 was my artist at the time. So I'm managing I. Yes, yeah, 0:20:15.640 --> 0:20:18.120 I'm managing that's my artist. And you know, I'm about 0:20:18.119 --> 0:20:20.320 to put him out next I'm about to get get 0:20:20.400 --> 0:20:24.359 him going too. So at that time, then then like 0:20:24.640 --> 0:20:27.399 they'll tell me he leaving. So I'm like okay. And 0:20:27.800 --> 0:20:30.679 then we got a big deal with Capital All at 0:20:30.720 --> 0:20:36.240 the same time, so they're expecting us to to pull 0:20:36.280 --> 0:20:38.440 off an album, you know, and they gave us a 0:20:38.520 --> 0:20:41.560 two album deals. So I was like, well, I can't 0:20:41.640 --> 0:20:43.960 turn down this money. I can't turn down this situation. 0:20:44.720 --> 0:20:45.120 I can't. 0:20:45.160 --> 0:20:45.520 I can't. 0:20:45.560 --> 0:20:45.960 I can't. 0:20:46.440 --> 0:20:49.320 So then on top of that, by Ten wasn't showing 0:20:49.400 --> 0:20:53.360 up for the studio. I'm like, man, I can't make 0:20:53.400 --> 0:20:55.240 the I'm telling I'm telling r J. 0:20:55.440 --> 0:20:58.400 Rice. I'm like, man, I can't make an album by myself, man, 0:20:58.840 --> 0:21:03.400 and call it Slung Village. I cannot. 0:21:04.040 --> 0:21:05.440 So I was like, man, I'm gonna have to bring 0:21:05.640 --> 0:21:08.280 l in. Man, I'm gonna have to bring Llen and 0:21:08.359 --> 0:21:10.639 he just gonna have to fill in. I'm gonna how 0:21:10.680 --> 0:21:11.600 you do so many songs? 0:21:11.680 --> 0:21:13.520 Hell, you just come in. It's gonna be your You 0:21:13.600 --> 0:21:15.600 can do it. Go in the group and you can 0:21:15.640 --> 0:21:19.520 bounce off this and you can come in like all right, man, cool, 0:21:19.560 --> 0:21:20.920 I'm with it. You know what I'm saying. 0:21:21.200 --> 0:21:24.159 It was, you know, uh, he still wanted to have 0:21:24.280 --> 0:21:26.840 his rough and rugged Personay, he sold some of the 0:21:27.040 --> 0:21:27.679 girl records. 0:21:27.720 --> 0:21:30.119 I had to convince him on a little bit that 0:21:30.280 --> 0:21:32.760 he didn't want to do. But he didn't want to 0:21:32.840 --> 0:21:33.320 do tat it. 0:21:36.160 --> 0:21:37.679 Don't want to do that because he was. 0:21:37.680 --> 0:21:40.200 Trying to still be you know, that lyric code spiritual 0:21:40.280 --> 0:21:42.320 guy and nothing wrong with that. 0:21:42.520 --> 0:21:45.119 But but we had to make some records because we 0:21:45.200 --> 0:21:47.360 had to get it. You know, we got to put 0:21:47.920 --> 0:21:49.560 as long as you said. 0:21:50.160 --> 0:21:51.080 You know what I'm saying. 0:21:51.600 --> 0:21:54.760 So I'm sitting there and you know, we're pulling it together. 0:21:54.800 --> 0:21:59.760 I'm finding these new producers, black milk breams, you know. 0:22:00.800 --> 0:22:03.520 Be y'all gunna coming through the hole squad. You know 0:22:03.640 --> 0:22:04.560 I'm producing. 0:22:05.240 --> 0:22:07.600 We were just pulling it together, man, you know what 0:22:07.640 --> 0:22:10.760 I'm saying until it say, give us some beats. But 0:22:10.880 --> 0:22:15.040 then when that happened, he goes and remix all the beats. 0:22:15.080 --> 0:22:19.040 I chokes, you know what I'm saying. So it was 0:22:19.240 --> 0:22:21.520 just a lot when we did that record, So you 0:22:21.600 --> 0:22:24.080 know what I'm saying, God bless me even pulled it off. 0:22:24.520 --> 0:22:27.399 That was a producer that y'all had that was I 0:22:27.440 --> 0:22:28.680 don't know if he was in the camp, but I 0:22:28.680 --> 0:22:31.879 would see his credits on stuff Broan E Roan and still. 0:22:35.040 --> 0:22:38.159 What I know he did the Ohamad Dia joint that 0:22:38.320 --> 0:22:40.959 y'all was on. Yeah, what what's the deal with him? 0:22:40.960 --> 0:22:42.080 Is he still making records? 0:22:42.119 --> 0:22:42.159 Like? 0:22:42.200 --> 0:22:42.639 Who was he? 0:22:43.119 --> 0:22:48.600 Bron and steal was dwell As you might as well say, 0:22:48.680 --> 0:22:51.080 like sign to Dweller. You know, Dweller was signed to him, 0:22:51.440 --> 0:22:52.160 you know what I'm saying. 0:22:52.200 --> 0:22:54.200 So he was like a guy that produced back in 0:22:54.280 --> 0:22:59.119 the day and had produced some records and stuff that 0:23:00.320 --> 0:23:01.399 Teller didn't want. 0:23:01.280 --> 0:23:02.640 To do, you know what I'm saying. 0:23:02.720 --> 0:23:04.680 He'd be like, you know, I ain't doing it, and 0:23:04.800 --> 0:23:07.560 then he'd be like, Okay, I'll give it a shot, 0:23:08.480 --> 0:23:09.080 you know what I'm saying. 0:23:09.119 --> 0:23:10.600 So Dealer would like pass off the. 0:23:10.640 --> 0:23:14.560 Work, gotcha? Gotcha and R J W V R Gunner. 0:23:14.600 --> 0:23:17.040 That was you and Black. Y'all were production team at 0:23:17.080 --> 0:23:17.480 that time. 0:23:18.080 --> 0:23:21.040 Correct, Yeah, not at Trinity time. 0:23:21.720 --> 0:23:25.480 Not at Trinity time, correct, Yeah, but yeah, y'all were 0:23:25.520 --> 0:23:27.200 production team at that time. How did y'all come to 0:23:27.280 --> 0:23:30.200 work together? And what was y'all collaboration process like as producers? 0:23:31.000 --> 0:23:31.280 For me? 0:23:31.600 --> 0:23:36.119 Me and Black met through that kids group that I 0:23:36.240 --> 0:23:36.879 had kid you Not. 0:23:37.440 --> 0:23:40.440 The guy that was closest to my age was in 0:23:40.520 --> 0:23:42.600 a group with Black Milk, and he played me some 0:23:42.760 --> 0:23:45.639 of their songs over the phone. One of the songs 0:23:45.960 --> 0:23:48.200 that I heard was the beat for what is This? 0:23:49.080 --> 0:23:52.240 And I was like on Trinity and I was like, you, 0:23:52.400 --> 0:23:55.240 he should come up. And then he had another relationship 0:23:55.320 --> 0:23:58.000 through by ten, you know what I'm saying, So everybody 0:23:58.119 --> 0:24:00.840 had kind of like was like, Okay, he came up there, 0:24:01.080 --> 0:24:04.399 we started working through like mixing us the records and 0:24:04.440 --> 0:24:07.160 stuff like that. By the time we was done with Trinity, 0:24:07.440 --> 0:24:10.080 me and him was like friends, you know what I'm saying. 0:24:10.119 --> 0:24:12.280 So we was like, shit, we're doing all the work, 0:24:12.320 --> 0:24:15.480 we might as well just make a production team, you 0:24:15.560 --> 0:24:17.879 know what I'm saying, and get it cracking because we're 0:24:17.880 --> 0:24:20.360 doing all the work. And then that's kind of how 0:24:20.880 --> 0:24:23.040 br Gunner started, and then it just kept going. 0:24:23.359 --> 0:24:26.960 Wait, I'm one second years old. I didn't realize that 0:24:27.040 --> 0:24:27.960 b our Gunner was. 0:24:30.240 --> 0:24:31.280 Milking young Jay. 0:24:33.240 --> 0:24:35.359 I actually thought I was going to say, wait, how 0:24:35.400 --> 0:24:37.159 come NMB one's mentioned in b R Gunner right now? 0:24:37.320 --> 0:24:42.680 Like I thought it was an actual person. I'm thinking like, oh, 0:24:42.760 --> 0:24:49.400 maybe they got beef with him or something. But I'm 0:24:49.480 --> 0:24:52.480 probably the only person I know that actually spends late 0:24:52.560 --> 0:24:56.960 eighties in my set, Like obviously your parents are on 0:24:57.080 --> 0:24:59.840 it as well. Is there a longer version of the 0:25:00.000 --> 0:25:03.840 eight eighties sketch that that was on Trinity? 0:25:04.800 --> 0:25:07.200 No, that's on Detroit Delly. 0:25:08.440 --> 0:25:11.040 Oh yeah, I think it is. 0:25:11.160 --> 0:25:13.240 It's in a uh in one of the machines that 0:25:13.320 --> 0:25:15.560 he was talking about, because we recorded on like the 0:25:15.640 --> 0:25:16.399 digital machine. 0:25:16.480 --> 0:25:20.280 I forgot. There's two versions. The one on Trinity. Yes, 0:25:20.520 --> 0:25:21.720 that's the one I'm speaking of. 0:25:22.520 --> 0:25:25.680 Yeah, yeah, it's on the machine in the back. 0:25:25.760 --> 0:25:29.520 Yeah yeah, right with you on that one and uh 0:25:30.040 --> 0:25:34.960 and your mother right and and yeah, yeah. 0:25:35.280 --> 0:25:40.359 That's my that's my ship man and also the original version. 0:25:40.800 --> 0:25:44.000 All right, So the the version of fall in Love 0:25:44.119 --> 0:25:48.399 that is the hidden track on Trinity, the one based 0:25:48.440 --> 0:25:49.040 on the remix. 0:25:49.960 --> 0:25:52.400 What happened to uh with Samaya? 0:25:53.400 --> 0:25:57.560 Well, well, yeah that we was gonna do this group 0:25:57.600 --> 0:26:01.440 called it as Bad, which was right, and somebody was 0:26:01.440 --> 0:26:05.760 a part of it, and uh, and we was working 0:26:05.800 --> 0:26:06.359 on the records. 0:26:06.400 --> 0:26:08.040 I was working on the records. Me and her worked 0:26:08.040 --> 0:26:10.639 on that record. Me Her, Vernon and Jay worked on 0:26:10.760 --> 0:26:12.119 that producing that record. 0:26:14.240 --> 0:26:19.080 But what happened was I think it just got mixed 0:26:19.119 --> 0:26:21.840 up because I was kind of dating her and that 0:26:22.040 --> 0:26:24.399 kind of got made things up a little bit. Sorry 0:26:28.520 --> 0:26:31.920 I did that and it just got messy and my bad. 0:26:32.560 --> 0:26:35.359 You know what I'm saying to somebody, Yeah, I. 0:26:35.440 --> 0:26:36.919 See you. 0:26:39.920 --> 0:26:45.840 After the self titled album comes out, the one in 0:26:45.920 --> 0:26:48.720 two thousand and five, call me's on that, right, the 0:26:49.000 --> 0:26:49.920 Isley Brother joint. 0:26:50.320 --> 0:26:52.960 Yeah, that's my ship man. 0:26:54.840 --> 0:26:58.000 Even post that, Like and again I know that some 0:26:58.160 --> 0:27:02.000 people are just like only dealan fishing out whatever now, 0:27:02.200 --> 0:27:05.600 like the entire Slim Village Cannon to me is like 0:27:05.680 --> 0:27:09.359 there's so much magic on all these records, though, Like 0:27:10.200 --> 0:27:15.119 how for you though? T three with what's happening, especially 0:27:15.160 --> 0:27:20.119 with the transitioning of Dyla and by ten and with 0:27:21.040 --> 0:27:24.920 L's Eyes dismissal of the group and whatnot, Like, how 0:27:25.000 --> 0:27:27.679 is this winging on your mental do you feel at 0:27:27.680 --> 0:27:30.560 some points maybe the universal universe is telling you like, 0:27:30.640 --> 0:27:34.280 well maybe I should do something else? Da Like, what 0:27:34.480 --> 0:27:38.240 is it that's keeping you still in fighting shape and 0:27:38.400 --> 0:27:41.600 wanting to keep this thing alive until you know you 0:27:41.760 --> 0:27:42.360 say it's done? 0:27:43.359 --> 0:27:43.640 I don't. 0:27:43.800 --> 0:27:45.680 You know, I did go through a turn where I 0:27:45.840 --> 0:27:47.560 was kind of going through my thing for a minute, 0:27:47.960 --> 0:27:48.800 kind of down and out. 0:27:48.880 --> 0:27:51.640 But I luckily I had a nice support group. 0:27:51.760 --> 0:27:51.920 Man. 0:27:52.760 --> 0:27:57.200 Shout out to H to his dad, big RJ and RJ. 0:27:57.320 --> 0:27:58.760 They helped me out a lot, man, you know what 0:27:58.840 --> 0:28:01.800 I'm saying. To the point, you know where I just 0:28:01.920 --> 0:28:04.240 went through it. You know, I lost everything for a minute, 0:28:04.320 --> 0:28:07.159 my girlfriend and everything. I just lost my house, the 0:28:07.480 --> 0:28:11.560 place I live, and they really just helped me, you know, 0:28:11.680 --> 0:28:14.359 help me get myself back together, you know what I'm saying. 0:28:14.480 --> 0:28:17.080 So it did weigh on me a lot, you know 0:28:17.119 --> 0:28:20.200 what I'm saying. And it broke me down for a millisecond. 0:28:20.760 --> 0:28:23.240 But you know what I'm saying, Well, you know we 0:28:23.320 --> 0:28:26.119 kept working, man, And you know, luckily I had some 0:28:26.240 --> 0:28:28.240 brothers with me to help me out. Man. And and 0:28:28.760 --> 0:28:31.040 that's and That's how I got through it. Man, you 0:28:31.080 --> 0:28:32.760 know what I'm saying. But it was it was tough 0:28:32.800 --> 0:28:34.879 for a second. Cay, you remember them days we was 0:28:34.920 --> 0:28:41.880 trying to put that stuff together. Yeah, it's tough. 0:28:42.440 --> 0:28:43.920 I was gonna ask you, I ash you a man. 0:28:44.120 --> 0:28:47.160 So me and Black we had a conversation. 0:28:47.240 --> 0:28:48.960 This is a while back, but we were just talking 0:28:48.960 --> 0:28:51.719 about how with some village we were talking about kind 0:28:51.720 --> 0:28:55.000 of difference between y'all and and LB and like, how 0:28:55.600 --> 0:28:59.640 y'all because y'all had those two records on Capital and 0:29:00.040 --> 0:29:03.080 I had those two big singles, and how that translated 0:29:03.200 --> 0:29:04.320 I guess across touring? 0:29:04.880 --> 0:29:07.240 How did that show up for y'all on y'all side? 0:29:07.280 --> 0:29:09.800 Like, were y'all able to see a difference when it's 0:29:09.840 --> 0:29:11.240 like you do your set and then all of a 0:29:11.280 --> 0:29:13.600 sudden you do selfish and people like oh that's the 0:29:13.680 --> 0:29:16.120 one we know, or they do taint it and it's like, 0:29:16.200 --> 0:29:19.600 oh that's the one, or over time was it people 0:29:20.160 --> 0:29:22.400 where they die hard? It's like, yo, we want volume two, 0:29:22.560 --> 0:29:26.000 we want you know, volume one? Like how did that 0:29:26.200 --> 0:29:28.440 look for y'all? You know what I'm saying as a 0:29:28.480 --> 0:29:29.920 group that had that major label. 0:29:29.680 --> 0:29:32.840 Experience, it looked just like you said, you had a 0:29:32.960 --> 0:29:35.040 divided group of folk. 0:29:35.640 --> 0:29:39.120 You had these die hard Volume two people. 0:29:40.400 --> 0:29:42.840 There's also Volume one people too, right. 0:29:44.160 --> 0:29:48.080 And then you had these two big singles and they 0:29:48.120 --> 0:29:51.360 didn't always mix together really, you know what I'm saying, 0:29:52.800 --> 0:29:55.760 you know, But and that's how it was. So we 0:29:56.320 --> 0:29:58.760 and then they would put us in different venues in 0:29:58.840 --> 0:30:02.560 different situations to see where we fit. Like one tour 0:30:02.640 --> 0:30:05.200 would be with somebody extra hip hop, and then we 0:30:05.280 --> 0:30:08.320 did it with nd I Re which was like, oh 0:30:09.760 --> 0:30:13.280 it was not the best, by the way. 0:30:14.160 --> 0:30:17.040 Yeah, So it was like I don't see I don't 0:30:17.080 --> 0:30:20.040 see climax going over good with an indie audience that 0:30:20.560 --> 0:30:20.880 I don't know. 0:30:22.480 --> 0:30:26.280 It was like Marcia and Brosia and Indiri and slum Village, 0:30:26.320 --> 0:30:29.000 Like where do we come in in this? I don't 0:30:29.000 --> 0:30:31.680 even know what really, you know what I'm saying. 0:30:31.720 --> 0:30:33.880 So it was a lot people don't know what a 0:30:33.920 --> 0:30:37.120 place is because of what Selfish did or what Tainta did. 0:30:37.480 --> 0:30:40.880 Speaking of which I gotta talk about Cloud nine man. Yeah, 0:30:42.080 --> 0:30:46.000 just how the anger I had. 0:30:46.120 --> 0:30:48.680 So I had to do this tour once in which 0:30:49.960 --> 0:30:55.920 Marcia is doing about thirty dates with us, and it's 0:30:55.960 --> 0:30:58.160 one of them things where like she sends it MB 0:30:58.240 --> 0:31:00.680 three to my phone like this the song I want 0:31:00.720 --> 0:31:05.320 to do, and I'm listening and I'm like, oh shit, 0:31:05.560 --> 0:31:10.479 I gotta play this every god damn night. Is one 0:31:10.520 --> 0:31:17.440 of the most nightmares loopings of gospel drumming. I've like 0:31:17.560 --> 0:31:20.280 way past the end of jay Z showing what you got, 0:31:20.480 --> 0:31:23.440 like pre anything that I've ever clowned, just plazed for 0:31:23.680 --> 0:31:30.160 about that. This is past any like Rush Stewart Copeland, 0:31:31.360 --> 0:31:33.080 Like it's the craziest thing. 0:31:33.560 --> 0:31:36.120 Can you talk about that? That like what made y'all 0:31:36.160 --> 0:31:37.760 want to do this? 0:31:37.920 --> 0:31:42.280 This group and their knack for picking the most unorthodox 0:31:42.360 --> 0:31:43.040 shit ever. 0:31:42.960 --> 0:31:43.640 To rhyme over. 0:31:45.920 --> 0:31:49.360 It was one of those things where we was in 0:31:49.480 --> 0:31:53.800 Detroit working and a guy who was around the time 0:31:53.880 --> 0:32:01.600 Scrap Dirty was like, yo, here goes Marsh's out. Focus 0:32:01.680 --> 0:32:03.480 has sent it over because he had produced it. 0:32:03.520 --> 0:32:07.160 Shout out to Focus, man, yes, So we're like, man, this. 0:32:07.200 --> 0:32:10.640 Ship is crazy, we need this and he was like, 0:32:10.920 --> 0:32:14.360 I mean it already came out though, and we was like, man, 0:32:14.400 --> 0:32:14.960 we don't care. 0:32:15.400 --> 0:32:18.120 And then we reached out to Focus and he. 0:32:18.280 --> 0:32:21.080 Was like, yeah, ship, y'all can go ahead to use it, 0:32:21.680 --> 0:32:23.640 and he sent it you know what I'm saying, and 0:32:24.720 --> 0:32:25.680 everybody likes it. 0:32:27.440 --> 0:32:27.840 Came to it. 0:32:28.160 --> 0:32:31.080 Yeah, we had fun and we got a chance to 0:32:31.080 --> 0:32:33.160 performing the Cup a couple of times with Marshall live. 0:32:34.040 --> 0:32:35.360 And that's a funky record. 0:32:35.440 --> 0:32:39.200 That's a funky it's funky, but it's a drummer's nightmare. 0:32:39.680 --> 0:32:44.080 So every jam session I'm like, get her backup, drummer, 0:32:44.080 --> 0:32:45.479 because I ain't doing those rules ever. 0:32:45.600 --> 0:32:48.480 Getting this lifetime man that I wanted to ask y'all 0:32:48.520 --> 0:32:52.520 specifically about Scheming. Man y'all able to get you know, 0:32:52.760 --> 0:32:56.440 Daylight and and Fife you know what I'm saying, and 0:32:56.600 --> 0:32:58.959 just really kind of bring it, make it complete. 0:32:59.000 --> 0:33:00.400 How did y'all put that other man? 0:33:01.360 --> 0:33:04.520 Scheming started out as a young er J record. I 0:33:04.680 --> 0:33:09.000 was making a solo record in the midst of doing 0:33:10.240 --> 0:33:12.680 slum and then they ended up hearing the record and 0:33:12.920 --> 0:33:14.920 was like this is crazy. 0:33:16.000 --> 0:33:17.880 So T was like, man, this is. 0:33:17.920 --> 0:33:19.920 How I think we should do it. I think we 0:33:20.000 --> 0:33:23.080 should do it where because he wrote the hook and 0:33:23.160 --> 0:33:24.280 he was like, I think we should do it. 0:33:24.840 --> 0:33:27.680 Yeah. He was like, man, we should do it where 0:33:28.680 --> 0:33:31.640 Daylight saying something and then maybe somebody else is seeing 0:33:31.680 --> 0:33:34.520 the hook and somebody else is saying it, and then 0:33:35.200 --> 0:33:37.640 we just started reaching out because I had done the 0:33:37.760 --> 0:33:41.120 Forever record for Daylight, so I was able to pick 0:33:41.200 --> 0:33:44.440 up the phone and call you Forever. I did Forever 0:33:44.560 --> 0:33:46.240 in morning Roch God. 0:33:47.520 --> 0:33:47.840 Damn. 0:33:48.840 --> 0:33:50.920 To this day we still close our show with Forever. 0:33:51.040 --> 0:33:54.600 Man that is That's That's one of my favorite, like 0:33:55.080 --> 0:33:56.320 top ten songs ever. 0:33:56.240 --> 0:33:57.120 Man, I love that shit. 0:33:57.200 --> 0:33:57.320 Man? 0:33:57.880 --> 0:34:00.640 Can he talk about like for you as a creator, 0:34:00.680 --> 0:34:04.360 as a beat creator, especially you know, the last of 0:34:04.400 --> 0:34:08.640 the Mohicans, you know, I mean I put you up there, 0:34:08.880 --> 0:34:10.879 milk up there, riggings up there. 0:34:11.520 --> 0:34:13.600 You know, there's some catching Detroit that are doing the 0:34:13.719 --> 0:34:17.640 thing as well. But like in twenty twenty three. 0:34:18.360 --> 0:34:21.719 How how farn is the lay of the land for you, 0:34:21.880 --> 0:34:25.360 at least in terms of where hip hop is today 0:34:25.480 --> 0:34:28.480 musically and where people are going, and. 0:34:30.239 --> 0:34:33.400 Like how do you adjust to it? Like what's your 0:34:33.440 --> 0:34:35.160 process of creating records? 0:34:35.239 --> 0:34:37.879 Now? Like I'm going to keep it a hunter. It's 0:34:37.880 --> 0:34:40.839 not a lot of inspiration out there to be like, yeah, 0:34:40.960 --> 0:34:41.640 this is crazy. 0:34:41.719 --> 0:34:43.239 Let me go in the studio and work for the 0:34:43.280 --> 0:34:45.879 most part, unless you're digging you know what I'm saying, 0:34:46.080 --> 0:34:49.319 and you just kind of know like Okay, this dope. 0:34:49.360 --> 0:34:51.839 Bart hast just dropped something on an underground scene or something. 0:34:52.480 --> 0:34:55.680 But like I was talking to Black at our Shawan. 0:34:55.560 --> 0:34:57.239 Detroit, and I was like, bro, we all we got 0:34:57.760 --> 0:35:00.960 to inspire each other, like, you know, so if you're 0:35:01.000 --> 0:35:04.360 not gonna make that shit or everybody ain't gonna you know, 0:35:04.560 --> 0:35:06.600 going there, and we ain't gonna viounce ideas, what else 0:35:06.760 --> 0:35:09.600 do we have for inspiration? So it's just kind of 0:35:09.719 --> 0:35:12.239 like when I go in there, I'm just making what 0:35:12.400 --> 0:35:15.279 I want to hear. I'm past the point of trying 0:35:15.280 --> 0:35:19.560 to please people musically. I'm like, if if I'm gonna 0:35:19.560 --> 0:35:21.600 throw it up there, then it's just gonna be something 0:35:21.719 --> 0:35:24.200 that a piece of art, and that's how I treat it. 0:35:24.280 --> 0:35:26.440 And either you get it or you don't. And that's 0:35:26.520 --> 0:35:28.960 just kind of where me and Ti at now. Even 0:35:29.040 --> 0:35:32.040 we're working on these new records, it's like we creating 0:35:32.280 --> 0:35:34.000 art that we want to do that we feel ain't 0:35:34.040 --> 0:35:36.879 there and y'all get it or y'all don't. 0:35:37.560 --> 0:35:38.200 You know what I'm saying. 0:35:40.080 --> 0:35:42.440 I love it, man, I love it. I want to 0:35:42.719 --> 0:35:43.520 ask y'all as well. 0:35:43.640 --> 0:35:46.359 Man went to the new single that y'all got out, 0:35:46.880 --> 0:35:53.040 and bro, like how did you hook up with the Dramatics? 0:35:53.520 --> 0:35:55.800 Like where what was that? 0:35:56.000 --> 0:35:59.120 Like, Oh, we got hooked up with the Dramatics through 0:35:59.440 --> 0:36:02.080 that's pop because he was touring in all of that 0:36:02.160 --> 0:36:04.800 stuff and mixing and mingling, and him and Ryan Banks 0:36:04.840 --> 0:36:06.919 had a super close relationship. 0:36:07.520 --> 0:36:11.840 On top of that, at the time, he was dating 0:36:12.560 --> 0:36:14.800 her daughter, I mean his daughter at. 0:36:14.680 --> 0:36:17.440 The time, so you know, we just kind of He 0:36:17.440 --> 0:36:19.439 would come up to the studio all the time, telling 0:36:19.560 --> 0:36:23.320 stories him impossible, we talking shit, and then you know, 0:36:23.480 --> 0:36:25.239 it just kind of got to the point where he 0:36:25.400 --> 0:36:28.920 was like, Yo, you know, y'all should record something. So 0:36:29.040 --> 0:36:32.840 the first record we did with the Dramatics was do 0:36:33.040 --> 0:36:36.880 Our Thing that was on prequl to a classic Okay. 0:36:36.960 --> 0:36:40.319 Kareem Riggins produced it, and then from that we did 0:36:40.400 --> 0:36:43.880 the be Our Gunner record, and then after that we did. 0:36:44.680 --> 0:36:46.960 Some other songs and we just set on vocals. So 0:36:47.000 --> 0:36:50.080 it's like songs that I got with the Dramatics with LJ. 0:36:51.200 --> 0:36:55.960 Roan and all the original members that we just holding 0:36:56.000 --> 0:36:56.680 on to vocals. 0:36:57.280 --> 0:37:01.280 Did they tell you I Vinny there experiences or stories 0:37:01.320 --> 0:37:06.840 and whatnot. Yeah, probably three or four years ago. I 0:37:06.920 --> 0:37:13.479 didn't realize the movie Detroit was about the Dramatics, even 0:37:13.520 --> 0:37:16.560 at the time when we did a song on that record, 0:37:16.640 --> 0:37:21.840 So when we got sent over a copy of the 0:37:21.920 --> 0:37:24.920 movie to see it, I didn't realize like that the 0:37:25.040 --> 0:37:30.960 Dramatics went through hell they were, but I'm always here 0:37:31.000 --> 0:37:35.080 in the Even in Snoops first cover story for the Source, 0:37:35.160 --> 0:37:39.200 there's a brief shootout moment that happens and the Dramatics 0:37:39.760 --> 0:37:43.840 have they're like coming back. The sore story starts with 0:37:44.000 --> 0:37:48.360 them leaving the video shoot for Doggie Dog World and 0:37:49.440 --> 0:37:53.080 it just goes like they've been in the craziest situations whatsoever? 0:37:53.280 --> 0:37:55.919 Have Have they ever shared these stories with you guys? 0:37:56.640 --> 0:37:59.040 Yeah, yeah, yeah, he was you know, a lot of 0:37:59.120 --> 0:38:03.640 drug use, a lot of Dracond, you know what I'm saying. 0:38:04.200 --> 0:38:06.000 So you know he would he would just come up 0:38:06.080 --> 0:38:08.040 there and kick it and you know, talk about the 0:38:08.200 --> 0:38:11.839 riots and you know what he experienced seeing and living 0:38:11.920 --> 0:38:14.839 through that, and you know what it was like going 0:38:14.920 --> 0:38:18.880 from the big stage to doing smaller shows that was 0:38:19.080 --> 0:38:23.320 like less people, but they would do multiple shows tonight, 0:38:24.120 --> 0:38:26.000 you know what I'm saying. So he was just saying, 0:38:26.160 --> 0:38:29.320 like the adjustment period of that and you know, like 0:38:29.400 --> 0:38:32.680 how to keep a group together and members leaving and 0:38:33.120 --> 0:38:34.919 you know all of that. Those are all the things 0:38:35.000 --> 0:38:37.040 that you know what I'm saying, we would talk about 0:38:37.200 --> 0:38:38.680 and you know, they would give advice on. 0:38:39.640 --> 0:38:42.520 Man, I wanted to ask you about one of my 0:38:42.719 --> 0:38:45.000 favorite records of yours that you did. 0:38:45.239 --> 0:38:47.239 You did a record for Pool. This was back when 0:38:47.239 --> 0:38:48.280 you and Pool were working together. 0:38:48.920 --> 0:38:51.239 This is I mean got twenty two thousand and eight 0:38:51.480 --> 0:38:53.200 nine something, This is years ago. 0:38:53.600 --> 0:38:55.840 But you did a record for him called what We Are. 0:38:55.960 --> 0:38:57.959 We ended up putting it on the Left Back record, 0:38:58.000 --> 0:39:01.320 but it was originally a solo jump there and I 0:39:01.480 --> 0:39:05.480 love that song, man, like body that shit just talk 0:39:05.520 --> 0:39:08.000 about kind of like the production of that song. And 0:39:08.480 --> 0:39:10.840 one thing I always admired about you You would always 0:39:10.920 --> 0:39:14.360 incorporate you would incorporate live instruments, but it would sound 0:39:14.680 --> 0:39:18.160 like a sample. It would sound like something that was vintage. 0:39:18.800 --> 0:39:21.800 How was How did you achieve that in the studio? 0:39:21.920 --> 0:39:24.200 Was that something that you kind of had in mind 0:39:24.320 --> 0:39:25.279 or how did that come? 0:39:26.360 --> 0:39:29.840 It started off, you know, with the sample, you know 0:39:29.880 --> 0:39:33.920 what I'm saying, That was chopped up, and then I 0:39:34.040 --> 0:39:36.239 had a drum set set up, you know what I'm 0:39:36.239 --> 0:39:38.920 saying at this at the house, and then I just 0:39:39.000 --> 0:39:41.400 got to a point where I would just would get 0:39:41.480 --> 0:39:44.480 on the kit and play and then have musicians come 0:39:44.560 --> 0:39:47.040 over and add bongos and all that stuff and turn 0:39:47.080 --> 0:39:48.799 it into a jam session. You know what I'm saying, 0:39:48.840 --> 0:39:53.040 Because at a certain point, music was like getting stiff. 0:39:53.719 --> 0:39:55.279 Yeah, you know what I'm saying. So I was like, 0:39:55.440 --> 0:39:57.120 you know, we just we was. 0:39:57.160 --> 0:39:58.960 Cranking our stuff, and then I want to make sure 0:39:59.040 --> 0:40:01.640 Pool some joints, you know what I'm saying. So I 0:40:01.800 --> 0:40:04.719 was like super locked in and focused, you know what 0:40:04.760 --> 0:40:07.640 I'm saying. I'm I felt like me and Pool was 0:40:07.680 --> 0:40:10.840 both underdogs, you know what I'm saying in terms of 0:40:11.000 --> 0:40:14.759 how people viewed us, And it was like, Yo, we're 0:40:14.760 --> 0:40:16.680 gonna we're gonna go in here and lock in and make. 0:40:17.120 --> 0:40:20.080 The you know, the dopest ship we can make. And 0:40:20.360 --> 0:40:24.040 you know, bringing Craig Lane, you know what I'm saying. 0:40:24.080 --> 0:40:26.040 He was playing on keys on some of. 0:40:26.040 --> 0:40:28.560 The records, you know what I'm saying. That's what it's 0:40:28.560 --> 0:40:32.360 always been about, making filling up the speaker. A sample 0:40:32.440 --> 0:40:34.520 can only give you so much, you know what I'm saying. 0:40:35.280 --> 0:40:37.640 What are your weapons of choice when you're making this 0:40:38.680 --> 0:40:41.000 these songs? Like are you still on the three thousand. 0:40:41.120 --> 0:40:42.320 Have you upgraded to? 0:40:43.040 --> 0:40:45.640 Oh no, I'm on the I'm on the MPC X nah. 0:40:45.920 --> 0:40:50.040 And but I still track everything gud like analog. You know, 0:40:50.680 --> 0:40:53.080 I don't just bounce the file. So I still get 0:40:53.320 --> 0:40:57.440 hit the patch bay and go through the eqs and 0:40:57.760 --> 0:41:02.160 uh Mike preeze lining and all that stuff, the eyeboxes. 0:41:02.760 --> 0:41:05.800 It's just to me, you can't get the sound that 0:41:06.000 --> 0:41:09.800 I'm used to without it. I don't know how to 0:41:09.920 --> 0:41:13.479 achieve it. So I still go old school change. 0:41:13.640 --> 0:41:15.160 So you don't have a Macbok Pro. You don't. You 0:41:15.200 --> 0:41:15.920 don't just like. 0:41:17.880 --> 0:41:20.600 I'll sequence everything in the computer, I mean with the 0:41:20.680 --> 0:41:21.320 drum machine. 0:41:21.520 --> 0:41:22.840 You know what I'm saying. But when I go to 0:41:22.960 --> 0:41:25.200 track out, you know what I'm saying. I'm tracking out 0:41:25.239 --> 0:41:27.760 through all vintage stuff. 0:41:29.040 --> 0:41:32.000 So is there a new round of young producers that 0:41:32.840 --> 0:41:34.960 are in Detroit that is sort of being mentored by 0:41:35.960 --> 0:41:38.040 you and Milking and Ricka? Is the way that you 0:41:38.120 --> 0:41:39.759 guys were mentored through Dylan. 0:41:40.440 --> 0:41:41.719 It's it's guys out here. 0:41:41.960 --> 0:41:48.880 You got you got people who's coming with with Doss. 0:41:49.280 --> 0:41:53.560 It's attitude that's handling them thout. For some reason, they're 0:41:53.600 --> 0:41:59.520 not able to jail with anybody, you know what I'm saying. 0:41:59.640 --> 0:42:02.239 So it's it's like there's not a hip hop shop 0:42:02.400 --> 0:42:07.360 sort of epicenter that someone in a way that Marie 0:42:07.440 --> 0:42:10.080 threw that stuff for you guys, there's not someone carrying 0:42:10.080 --> 0:42:10.839 that tradition now. 0:42:11.760 --> 0:42:13.719 Nah. But that's what me and T was talking about, 0:42:13.760 --> 0:42:18.840 were talking about trying to open something, you know what 0:42:18.880 --> 0:42:20.799 I'm saying, where we can have the community to come. 0:42:20.880 --> 0:42:23.960 You got to sput the spots like Paramuta here that 0:42:24.160 --> 0:42:26.839 do little dope DJ things, you know what I'm saying, 0:42:26.880 --> 0:42:29.279 like around electronic music fest things like that. 0:42:29.480 --> 0:42:33.640 But it's not a whole lot is like a hug 0:42:34.360 --> 0:42:36.360 anymore that that people can go to. 0:42:36.680 --> 0:42:40.000 And that's what we need to get back to, you 0:42:40.040 --> 0:42:41.680 know what I'm saying, in order to be able to 0:42:41.760 --> 0:42:43.480 raise up that next crop out the city. 0:42:44.920 --> 0:42:48.719 Okay, And I guess in terms of terrestrial radio is 0:42:48.800 --> 0:42:52.960 concerned like does that have the same hole that it 0:42:53.239 --> 0:42:56.160 once held in Detroit? Like is there any figure in 0:42:56.440 --> 0:43:00.560 radio that is just as expansive or wild? They're crazy 0:43:00.840 --> 0:43:05.120 as you know, growing up in the early period was 0:43:05.160 --> 0:43:05.680 for you guys. 0:43:06.320 --> 0:43:08.040 You got T three on the on the radio. 0:43:08.160 --> 0:43:09.960 Now, so that's where you know what I'm saying, you're 0:43:09.960 --> 0:43:13.040 getting that other variety of music. 0:43:13.960 --> 0:43:16.800 Okay, Yeah, I do a two hour show on Sundays 0:43:17.840 --> 0:43:19.520 and they basically let me play what I want to play. 0:43:19.760 --> 0:43:23.279 I ain't going crazy, though, I am not mojo crazy. 0:43:23.840 --> 0:43:26.920 You gotta no, man, I'm telling you you gotta go 0:43:27.080 --> 0:43:28.000 mojo crazy. Yo. 0:43:29.200 --> 0:43:33.960 Yeah, you got to Okay, Okay, I'm serious, Like. 0:43:34.200 --> 0:43:40.480 That's I remember questioning go crazy, so on him. 0:43:41.120 --> 0:43:41.160 No. 0:43:41.320 --> 0:43:45.759 But I feel like if that to me is that 0:43:46.000 --> 0:43:49.000 opens up so many creative portals because even the first night, 0:43:49.920 --> 0:43:52.040 the first night, you know, when when you go there, 0:43:52.200 --> 0:43:53.600 you're sort of like, Okay, I want to see what 0:43:53.680 --> 0:43:56.680 these cats really about because it sounds crazy on record, 0:43:56.760 --> 0:43:59.920 but let me see what they're about. And I'll never 0:44:00.080 --> 0:44:03.319 forget the first night that the three of you were 0:44:03.680 --> 0:44:09.200 in the basement together, right before it by ten leaves, 0:44:09.239 --> 0:44:12.080 He's like yo, he tells Dylan. He's like yo, man, 0:44:12.920 --> 0:44:14.640 He's like, I want you to make a joint to 0:44:14.760 --> 0:44:18.560 herb Albert's Root one on one, And I was like, 0:44:19.480 --> 0:44:22.239 wait a minute, that's the song always Here when like, 0:44:22.360 --> 0:44:26.920 to me, that's the ultimate yacht rock Dennis song that 0:44:27.120 --> 0:44:30.800 I mean, when you're the dentist officer. You're shopping and 0:44:30.920 --> 0:44:33.160 I was like, wait, did he actually say he wants 0:44:33.200 --> 0:44:34.719 to rhyme to root one on one? 0:44:34.920 --> 0:44:35.960 Like that's the most. 0:44:38.080 --> 0:44:41.040 Craziest, Like, doesn't he mean rise by Herb Albert, not 0:44:41.160 --> 0:44:42.840 root one on one? He's like, no, he wants to 0:44:44.400 --> 0:44:46.640 like the World's Happy Song. It's like, you're gonna. 0:44:46.440 --> 0:44:47.040 Flip that ship. 0:44:47.280 --> 0:44:48.759 He's like, hell, yeah, I'm gonna flip that shit. 0:44:49.480 --> 0:44:52.960 Like to me, it's I feel like what makes the 0:44:53.080 --> 0:44:57.120 choice special is that you guys are not quick to 0:44:57.239 --> 0:44:58.279 say the word no. 0:45:00.080 --> 0:45:01.959 As fast as other people would. 0:45:02.080 --> 0:45:05.080 And I think that that's that's kind of notable, you know, 0:45:05.239 --> 0:45:08.560 and you already see the evidence of that and how 0:45:08.760 --> 0:45:10.919 the ripple effects and how it affects people. So yet 0:45:11.000 --> 0:45:12.960 I know, two years just like, hey, I do a 0:45:13.000 --> 0:45:16.359 two hour show on Sunday and it might not matter. 0:45:16.480 --> 0:45:20.920 But you know, even if you reach one person that 0:45:21.960 --> 0:45:24.560 that spark happens to you, then you know, I feel 0:45:24.600 --> 0:45:26.080 like that's that's a job well done. 0:45:26.880 --> 0:45:27.040 Nah. 0:45:27.120 --> 0:45:28.920 Seriously, bro, I mean me and team we've talked. I 0:45:28.960 --> 0:45:30.800 mean we've all three of us, we've like talked, you know, 0:45:30.840 --> 0:45:33.600 at different points in time. But seriously, man, I just 0:45:33.840 --> 0:45:35.560 had to, you know, just say to y'all, bros, we 0:45:35.680 --> 0:45:38.879 celebrate Iune if you're an LB and I tell people 0:45:38.920 --> 0:45:41.000 all the time. And we were making our first album, 0:45:41.480 --> 0:45:44.560 you know, the listening like I had, We listened to 0:45:44.960 --> 0:45:48.640 Fantastic Volume two religiously. I played the fucking MP three 0:45:48.680 --> 0:45:52.040 tags off that now and like I will hold up 0:45:52.080 --> 0:45:53.960 in the studio and we would. I would tell ninth 0:45:54.040 --> 0:45:56.520 Poop all the crew straight up, like yo, if we 0:45:56.600 --> 0:45:58.640 ain't making nothing nicking fuck with this, then we don't 0:45:58.640 --> 0:46:01.200 even need to waste our time, right like this is 0:46:01.280 --> 0:46:03.360 the bar if we ain't bringing it like these niggas. 0:46:06.280 --> 0:46:08.000 It's still in my north start of this day. 0:46:08.080 --> 0:46:11.759 Man, no man, love y'all brothers, man, and just thank 0:46:11.800 --> 0:46:13.680 you for everything. Man, appreciate you. 0:46:14.400 --> 0:46:16.120 So on behalf of the team. 0:46:16.760 --> 0:46:21.560 Takeolo La Yah un paid, Bill Sugar, Steve, myself, the 0:46:21.680 --> 0:46:24.920 Great R. J. Rice, and the one and only T 0:46:25.120 --> 0:46:29.239 three Detroit to own slum Village. Support your gods. Man 0:46:29.280 --> 0:46:32.000 there there's they're still here with us and Taren on 0:46:32.040 --> 0:46:33.799 an awesome legacy this quest. 0:46:33.880 --> 0:46:36.080 Love Supreme, and we will see you on the next 0:46:36.200 --> 0:46:37.400 go round, y'all. Thank you. 0:46:39.320 --> 0:46:53.720 M much, Love Supreme. Is a production of iHeart Radio. 0:46:57.760 --> 0:47:01.000 For more podcasts from iHeart Radio, visit the iHeartRadio app, 0:47:01.280 --> 0:47:04.280 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.