1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: Quest Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 2: Welcome back to QLs. This is Sugar Steve from Team Supreme. 3 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 2: Last week we gave you part one of our interview 4 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 2: with Slum Village members T three and Young RJ. In 5 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 2: that interview, they talked about their early days of Slum 6 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 2: Village and somebody that I got to know during the 7 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 2: Soul Clarian's era, the late great Jay Dilla. It's always 8 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 2: great to hear from people who worked with him firsthand 9 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 2: and got to know him from a young age. Please 10 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:26,760 Speaker 2: make sure you check out that episode if you haven't. 11 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 2: Now we have part two as Quest Love Supreme celebrates 12 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 2: fifty years of hip hop all August. 13 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 3: We hope you enjoy it. 14 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 4: I remember one of the earliest arguments I had with 15 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:42,840 Speaker 4: we were just talking about we were going through song 16 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 4: for song, and you know, I was explaining that the 17 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 4: frustrating thing about making things fall apart was the fact 18 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 4: that Malik and just his very weird Malik's almost like 19 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 4: batman like Malik shows up to the studio at like 20 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 4: three am, like when the engineers just cleaning up and 21 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 4: ready to go home, and he would always just come 22 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 4: in at like odd hours. 23 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 3: One thirty am. Two are at thirty am and look 24 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 3: on the. 25 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 4: Floor, go to the corner, and he would read the 26 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 4: reels off like Okay, what do they work on today, 27 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 4: and that sister, an. 28 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 3: Engineer, don't know. 29 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 4: So he's just like, well, here's the merest beats he 30 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 4: would make, and here's da da da dada, and Malie 31 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:29,199 Speaker 4: would just be like, hey, put one of them things 32 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 4: up now. The thing is is that you know, I'm 33 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 4: also using this album period, like you know, there's other 34 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 4: projects I'm working on, but I'm also using this album 35 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 4: period to develop my sound or try to figure out 36 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 4: what my sound is as a producer. And so I'm 37 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 4: practicing stuff that dyl is teaching me, like he taught 38 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 4: me shit on the twelve hundred. I didn't know he 39 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 4: taught me stuff on my mbat so and I'm sure 40 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 4: that you know about this RJ, Like you go through 41 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 4: this period as a beat maker where you need to 42 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 4: practice first and emulate, like first I did the Bomb Squad, 43 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 4: then all right, I'm gonna practice this Barley Mall track, 44 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 4: and then I'm gonna practice this premiere track or whatever, 45 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 4: like you gotta practice before. And the thing was Malik 46 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 4: would always he would do complete songs to shit that 47 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 4: I never intended for the public to hear, and I 48 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 4: told it was hitting me that I was hell bit. 49 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,279 Speaker 3: I was like, Yo, there's no way. 50 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 4: That I'm gonna let my slum influence out on this 51 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 4: roots record. And it would only happen when like Malik 52 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 4: would just unknowingly take some shit that I had no 53 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 4: intention for y'all to hear. A good example is like 54 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 4: the table Content song that intros the album, or that 55 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:49,119 Speaker 4: don't see Us We See You, like shit, I never 56 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 4: intended for the public to hear. 57 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 3: So for you though, Like again, is it is that weird? 58 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 4: Like to know that you're that that influence, like you're 59 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 4: a pioneer before you're an artist yourself. 60 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I mean, I'm definitely thankful, but man, 61 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 5: I don't know. 62 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:10,239 Speaker 6: Man, I have to thank Dyla of course. 63 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 5: And I would have to thank all of my mentors man, 64 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:14,519 Speaker 5: like an filler R J. 65 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 6: Rice. 66 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 5: I mean, we had a lot of people that was 67 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 5: that was really just looking out for no reason at all, 68 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, which was especially for me. 69 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 5: I didn't even grow up with a father, so you're 70 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 5: telling me this random dude named a Philly gonna let 71 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 5: you come in his house, you know, make some. 72 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. You know, rap to do 73 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 6: all of this just. 74 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 5: Because he wanted to make sure we ain't in the 75 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 5: streets doing no foolishness, you know what I'm saying. So 76 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 5: like we had, we had the community, the whole slum 77 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 5: village as you will, that was helping us, you know 78 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 5: what I'm. 79 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 3: Saying, r J. 80 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 7: I wanted to ask you, man specifically with your dad 81 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 7: being you know who he was in the game and 82 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 7: you know, just having that base for RJ's Las arrival, 83 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 7: what was some of the things he taught you You 84 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 7: talked about musically, but like business wise, were they any 85 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 7: principles or just kind of things that game he gave 86 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 7: you that kind of helped you in your journey. 87 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 8: Yeah, he just told me, never take a man's dignity. 88 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 8: You don't want to put a man in a position 89 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 8: of where he got a bed or and never wait 90 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 8: to pay a man, you know what I'm saying. Because 91 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 8: he got a family that he's taken care of as well, 92 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 8: you know what I'm saying, And he waiting on that 93 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 8: money to come, just like you waiting on the. 94 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 9: Money to come. 95 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 8: So you know what I'm saying, it's a lot of 96 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 8: Jews that he taught me with how to do business 97 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 8: and you know, cultivating relationships and things like that. You know, 98 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 8: some things you may have to do for free, you 99 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 8: know what I'm saying, in order to grow the business. 100 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 8: So you know, it's a lot. 101 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 9: You know. I thank them all the time. You know 102 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 9: what I'm saying. 103 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 8: I couldn't have had a better father mentor. And I 104 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 8: enjoy working. 105 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:50,039 Speaker 9: With him too. 106 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 3: Look is your mom? 107 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 8: She still singing, She's still saying. They just put a 108 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 8: new song out. They just dropped a new song. 109 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 4: Yep, that's what's up man, that's beautiful. I feel an 110 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 4: audio recording. It's the craziest thing I ever heard of 111 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 4: my life. It's an audio recording. And I'm assuming that 112 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 4: you're holding a video camera. You guys are in a 113 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 4: car together and this is the only I only know 114 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:19,479 Speaker 4: the audio part of it. And Dylan's driving and you 115 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 4: ask him a question, you say, hey, man, what's the day? 116 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 8: Oh? 117 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 4: You know about this? Okay? It just yours me every 118 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 4: time I hear it. You're like, hey, what's the day, man? 119 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 4: And Dyl's like, I don't know Thursday. He said, no, man, 120 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 4: what's today, And Dyla's like, oh, okay, it's February tenth. 121 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 3: He's like, yeah, man, what's the day. 122 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 4: He's like, yeah, man, February tenth is the first day 123 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 4: that we're making our new album, Fantastic Volume two, Baby 124 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 4: Da Da Dah, and y'all just talk about it. 125 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I'm just like it. Really. 126 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 4: I was like, wow, just you know, because for a 127 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:04,840 Speaker 4: lot of us, February tenth being the day of his transitioning, 128 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 4: it's such a you know, such a thing for those 129 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 4: that you know, follow his music so closely. But to 130 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 4: hear that clip and the excitement of you guys like 131 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 4: talking about your future and all those things like will 132 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 4: that often happen? 133 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 6: We had to you gotta understand this. 134 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 5: First of all, Plumb Village had to wait for Dilla 135 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 5: to blow because Yla is you know what I'm saying, 136 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 5: So I was still kind of hungry and broke me 137 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 5: in ten and Dealer was making money already, you know 138 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 5: what I'm saying. 139 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 6: So we had to wait on that. So we had 140 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 6: to be patient. 141 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 5: So for the day for us all to come together 142 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 5: and say this is the official day for us to 143 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 5: work on this shout out to Windy Goldstein, who was 144 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 5: who was lacing a lot of us I know. 145 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 3: Was that was my saving grace too? 146 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 5: Yes, that's what I'm saying. She layd us all. And 147 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 5: you know we got that opportunity to really just go 148 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 5: in there and do it. And guess what, we had 149 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 5: no guidance, you. 150 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 1: Know, you know what I'm saying. 151 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 5: They just let us do what we want to do 152 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 5: and which is beautiful, you know what I'm saying. And 153 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 5: shout out to our jail for solid solidifying that deal. 154 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 5: I wish, I wish now I think about it. We 155 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 5: had a couple of deals on the table. I wanted 156 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 5: to go with death Jam in my heart because we 157 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 5: did have a possible situation with death Jam, but we 158 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 5: decided to go who we went with. 159 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 4: Yes, so there was a deaf Jam deal on the 160 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 4: table and Interscope and any other labels or. 161 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 5: It was about five I think universal. Yeah, we had 162 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 5: some deals, but we just chose what we chose. And 163 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 5: I think we were with a M first, which was terrible. 164 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 3: Did you guys at all work with John McLean? 165 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 9: John McLean is the one who got who was like 166 00:07:57,640 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 9: part of getting the deal at. 167 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 4: John McLean is one of those figures that you know, 168 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 4: even I'm working on the slide doc right now, and 169 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 4: he's a part of SLID's eighties, you know, attempted several 170 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 4: attempts to come back or whatnot. But he's one of 171 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 4: those brothers that's so elusive in terms of like talking 172 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 4: to the press or whatever. 173 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 3: What What were your interactions like with John McLean? 174 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 6: I didn't have many. 175 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 5: I was mostly your dad and management talking to him. 176 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 5: I was really brief I had so that was mostly 177 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 5: r J and Tim. Tim Maynor mostly spoke to him. 178 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 5: Most of the time I was out of business. I 179 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 5: was such a studio nerd. 180 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 6: I was. That's what I was at. 181 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't care to meet executives and all those 182 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 4: things anyway, Like that was like my manager did that. 183 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 4: But you know, occasionally I would have to have conversations 184 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,559 Speaker 4: about like the concept of the group or you know, 185 00:08:57,600 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 4: those sort of things that you don't want to have 186 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 4: with label exists and whatnot. 187 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 3: How did that deal fall apart? 188 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:08,079 Speaker 4: Because I thought I saw a tangible version of what 189 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 4: I thought was a fantastic volume two on Interscoope later 190 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 4: found out it was a bootleg or whatever. 191 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 5: But I'm gonna tell you how it fell fell apart. 192 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 5: This is how no disrespect, but what happened was corrupt. 193 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 5: He decides to double album. Oh no, the West versus 194 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 5: the East. Yeah, I know that album shut down the 195 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 5: whole rap department because the lack yes and guess who 196 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 5: was right next after that? It was slum Village, then 197 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 5: the boot leg on top of that, it was like, well, 198 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 5: the only thing. 199 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 3: We could do. 200 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:50,079 Speaker 6: I guess we're gonnnna start touring in Europe. So we 201 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,679 Speaker 6: was able to tour Europe in ninety nine. 202 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:54,719 Speaker 5: That was super early for us to go down there 203 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:58,559 Speaker 5: to our first European tour, which was an ordell too, 204 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 5: because they'll act like he left lost his passport for 205 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:02,839 Speaker 5: a while because he didn't want to go because he 206 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 5: had to finish some remixes. 207 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 6: It was like, man, this was just going on. 208 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 3: I can't find a passport ship. 209 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 4: So yeah, I was about to say, how so this 210 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:17,199 Speaker 4: is also the period in which like he's gonna leave 211 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 4: the group or whatever, So explain how just the adjustment 212 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 4: readjusting the group without him on stage with you. 213 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 5: Well, he he didn't. He said he would do select shows. 214 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 5: He's gonna do the West Coast. He was gonna do 215 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 5: Detroit maybe something else. That was all he was even 216 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 5: when he was going to Okay player you need. 217 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:40,599 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. So we got him for 218 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 3: two shows at least. 219 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 5: Right, You're right, you got shows, right, So that's all 220 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 5: he was gonna do because he wanted to hitch up 221 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,719 Speaker 5: with all his work at that time, you know what 222 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 5: I'm saying, because he was hot and people wanted those 223 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 5: those remixes like asap, so you know he was doing 224 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 5: all that. Then he was producing all different albums, so 225 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:02,559 Speaker 5: he just wasn't there. Now the whole thing when he 226 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 5: decided to leave, you know what I'm saying. We had 227 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 5: a brand new deal on the table, right, you know 228 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 5: what I'm saying. That was the whole Capitol deal. 229 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 6: So it was like where you going. We got a 230 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 6: whole situation, you know what I'm saying. But he decides 231 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 6: to go and do. 232 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 5: It, does the n C A deal, you know what 233 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 5: I'm saying, that with frankin Denk and get his own 234 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 5: label situation popping over there. 235 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 6: So I mean he's that and told me, man, you're 236 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 6: gonna have to take over the group. 237 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:29,319 Speaker 8: Man. 238 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 5: I did not want to because I enjoy being the 239 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 5: middle main by the way, you know, less pressure. 240 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 6: I just I wanted to be gone, you know what 241 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 6: I'm saying about. You know, So it was it was 242 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 6: hard to restructure. 243 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 5: So one of the main pieces I had is is 244 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:46,719 Speaker 5: all the people at the studio, and one of the 245 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 5: main people was was young Jay. So me and him 246 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 5: was already bonding over beats and doing stuff, and then 247 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 5: by ten, you know, was barely showing up. Kind of 248 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 5: like we're dealing with with Malik b. You don't you 249 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:02,959 Speaker 5: know what he's gonna record to the friend that we 250 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 5: wasn't even working on, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, Okay, 251 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 5: he had this machine in the back and he would 252 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 5: just make songs all day in these machines from the 253 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 5: randomnest beats. I don't know, you know, someone was watching, 254 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 5: Someone was this, someone was that you just didn't know, 255 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:22,559 Speaker 5: and were trying to piece this album together, and it 256 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 5: was it was a difficult process, you know what I'm saying. 257 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 6: But we got through it, you know, luckily. 258 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 5: That's how we got close with Kareem, and Kareem contributed 259 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 5: and them and Black Milks, you know, coming up and 260 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 5: all this at one time and you know, I had 261 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:41,559 Speaker 5: to mix it up. I had to make some magic. 262 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 7: Yeah, I wanted to ask you man, I had to. 263 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 7: I had a blessing before he passed to talk with 264 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 7: about ten. I interviewed him this has been it has 265 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:53,719 Speaker 7: been years ago, and he talked very openly about like 266 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,319 Speaker 7: his like mental illness and just kind of things he 267 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 7: was struggling with. How do you manage that? I mean, 268 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:02,199 Speaker 7: navigate in the group is hard enough as it is. 269 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 7: How do you manage that having someone in your group 270 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 7: that has those kind of specific problems. How did y'all 271 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 7: navigate that as a crew? 272 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 6: Well? 273 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 5: Number one, when you're young like me and we was, 274 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:18,679 Speaker 5: you think, Okay, he just eclectic. 275 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 276 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 3: You don't think it's something clinical, you. 277 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 6: Know what I'm saying. Once I figured out that it 278 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:29,439 Speaker 6: was a real situation. 279 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 5: We was at the Climax, we did the Climax video 280 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 5: and his sister had had a spell or whatever that 281 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 5: we had to shut down, you know, the video, and. 282 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 3: It was is it Tina Tina Marie? 283 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 9: Is that Tina Yeah? 284 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, song on the record. She had a spell. Man, 285 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 6: we had to shut down. It was a bit much. 286 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 5: I've never seen anything like that. It's scared the daylights 287 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 5: out of it, you know what I'm saying. 288 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 4: Wait, when you guys were shooting the climax video in 289 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:01,559 Speaker 4: La Oh Ship, I didn't even know. 290 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 6: Okay, you was right there, but you wasn't You didn't 291 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 6: see all of that. 292 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, because y'all just keeping the car listening to 293 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 3: the beats. That was the diversion. Sit here, listen to 294 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 3: it for two hours. I say, oh, I'm in heaven. Great, 295 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 3: y'all ready. 296 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, she had a hole spell and then she and 297 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 5: then I knew it was uh, bipolar schizophrenia and uh, 298 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 5: and we figured out it ran in the family, you know, 299 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 5: about ten even and so I didn't really know, Like 300 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 5: I said, I just thought he was a collected Then 301 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 5: it just got worse and worse. 302 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 6: Until the point where it was it was it was 303 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 6: a bit much to we have to have a. 304 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 5: Whole handler kind of like ODB you had to have 305 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 5: a handler with ten Okay, this is your job, QD. 306 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 5: I remember one time this guy we about to go 307 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 5: on stage. I'm talking about ten minutes before we go 308 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 5: on stage, he decides to go grocery shopping. 309 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 3: Like word, I'm very familiar with actions like these, Yeah, 310 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 3: you very and this is after this is you talking about? 311 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 3: This is after fantastic, this this Trinity time on Capitol already. 312 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, we're on Capital's. Yes, it just got worse and worse. 313 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 4: Man, But you know, did he did he have a 314 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 4: reaction at all to I always wanted to know if 315 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 4: because people often ask us, like, you know, what was 316 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 4: Malie B's response to water when he heard it? 317 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 3: But lses versus and reunion? Did he ever respond to that? 318 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 5: Or you know, yes, he they they talked. They talked 319 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 5: on the side or the building. He l was not 320 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 5: even talked to him before that. He put out the 321 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 5: verse so so and at this time by Tim was 322 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 5: kind of not doing so well and he kind of 323 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 5: showed up at the show on the side or the 324 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 5: door like like what El said, right, and you know what. 325 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 6: I'm saying, And it was it was. It was a 326 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 6: tough situation. 327 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 5: That's that's the reason why I brought Pam back in 328 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 5: the group afterwards, because I just wanted him to try 329 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 5: to get itself together. 330 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, take this medication. 331 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 5: Because I learned in the music biz there is a 332 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 5: lot of people who's struggling and just deal with it 333 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 5: every day. 334 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 4: It's real, like a lot of us are caring a 335 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 4: lot of what they call epigenetics kind of passed down 336 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 4: through generations. Your grant great grandfather had something, now your 337 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 4: grandfather has, and your father has and so on and 338 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 4: so forth. 339 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 3: I always wanted to know, you know. 340 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 4: It's also with with the Trinity record, where you guys 341 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 4: really did have like your moment in the sun, especially 342 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 4: like with Detroit Delhi and with Trinity, I mean you 343 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 4: have something that even roots can't claim, which is like 344 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 4: you got fully embraced by like the one oh six 345 00:16:56,360 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 4: in the Park audience, and there's a moment where where 346 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 4: it's almost that slum village, I mean, whether you look 347 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 4: at as an eclipse or a shadow of Dila versus 348 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 4: o Dyla's group where you guys on your own are 349 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:12,679 Speaker 4: about to. 350 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 3: You know, find an audience, find a home, find a 351 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 3: groove in a movement. 352 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 4: Where did it feel like like with the with the 353 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 4: success of of Taint It and also working with like 354 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 4: Kanye on Selfish Selfish? Yeah, can you talk about that 355 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:31,120 Speaker 4: period number one? 356 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 6: It was the it was a hurt feeling for me 357 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 6: man for uh, you know, I'm not having Dila a 358 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 6: part of it. 359 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 3: To get a touchdown, but. 360 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, not officially part. I mean we made sure 361 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 6: he produced records on it. We was gonna do that. 362 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 5: But like when we did the video shoot for a selfish, 363 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, and and uh, you know, 364 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 5: it was a glorious day. 365 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 6: It was three hundred women there. It was pretty ridiculous. 366 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 5: You know, you got Kanye, you got John Legend. And 367 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 5: then I was like, man, I heard Dealer was say 368 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 5: I didn't even get a chance to talk to Deler 369 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 5: with so many people, so much going on, you know 370 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 5: what I'm saying, And I just felt that detached that 371 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 5: I never wanted to feel with hell, you know what 372 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 5: I'm saying, kind of like yeah, you know, but you know, 373 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:19,679 Speaker 5: I'm a happy I'm I made it in a good space, 374 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 5: but at that time I wanted it to be what 375 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 5: it was, but but it couldn't be, you know what 376 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:29,400 Speaker 5: I'm saying. So I was always like that, man, every 377 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 5: time I have success with Slum Village, I would always 378 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 5: be like caught into somewhere or some situation where I. 379 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 6: Can't even enjoy this, you know what I'm saying. 380 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 5: I'm just not getting to a space now with some village, man, Jay, 381 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 5: where I can I enjoy what I do, you know 382 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 5: what I'm saying and kind of do that. But it 383 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 5: took a while because it was just so much conflict. 384 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 5: It was always something new every day, you know what 385 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:54,120 Speaker 5: I'm saying. 386 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 9: See. 387 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 8: But the thing was this though, three, because when you 388 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 8: were shooting, like I called Dealer to come to the 389 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 8: Selfish video shoot. So when he get there, we're watching 390 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 8: him shoot and he like, Yo, man, y'all good, y'all 391 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:11,360 Speaker 8: don't need me no more. 392 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 9: And I'm like, bro, what is you talking about? 393 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 5: Shit? 394 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 3: What were doing? 395 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 9: You? You the foundation? We always gonna need you. 396 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 6: We're like, nah, nah, y'all need me no more? 397 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 5: Man, you know. 398 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,120 Speaker 9: And I'm like he had just got out the hospital. 399 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 9: I'm like, this weird, you know what I'm saying, But 400 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 9: you rolling with it. So it was like things along 401 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 9: the way, you. 402 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 8: Know what I'm saying that he was saying to kind 403 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 8: of like I don't want to say, like prepare everybody 404 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 8: for what I think he felt was coming. So but 405 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,880 Speaker 8: that was like the last time that I saw him 406 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 8: in person where you know, everybody was there and able 407 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 8: to kick it. 408 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,360 Speaker 9: And have fun. Man. 409 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:56,199 Speaker 7: I wanted to ask y'all, what was the the how 410 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 7: did it come about with bringing Elsie in the group? 411 00:19:59,720 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 9: What? 412 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 6: Well, let me tell you this. That was a necessity. 413 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 3: Okay. 414 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 5: So here's the situation. I'm managing l Zi that that 415 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 5: was my artist at the time. So I'm managing I. Yes, yeah, 416 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:18,120 Speaker 5: I'm managing that's my artist. And you know, I'm about 417 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 5: to put him out next I'm about to get get 418 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 5: him going too. So at that time, then then like 419 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,399 Speaker 5: they'll tell me he leaving. So I'm like okay. And 420 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,679 Speaker 5: then we got a big deal with Capital All at 421 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 5: the same time, so they're expecting us to to pull 422 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 5: off an album, you know, and they gave us a 423 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 5: two album deals. So I was like, well, I can't 424 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 5: turn down this money. I can't turn down this situation. 425 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:45,120 Speaker 6: I can't. 426 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 8: I can't. 427 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 6: I can't. 428 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 5: So then on top of that, by Ten wasn't showing 429 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:53,360 Speaker 5: up for the studio. I'm like, man, I can't make 430 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 5: the I'm telling I'm telling r J. 431 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:58,400 Speaker 6: Rice. I'm like, man, I can't make an album by myself, man, 432 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:03,400 Speaker 6: and call it Slung Village. I cannot. 433 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 5: So I was like, man, I'm gonna have to bring 434 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 5: l in. Man, I'm gonna have to bring Llen and 435 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 5: he just gonna have to fill in. I'm gonna how 436 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 5: you do so many songs? 437 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 6: Hell, you just come in. It's gonna be your You 438 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 6: can do it. Go in the group and you can 439 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 6: bounce off this and you can come in like all right, man, cool, 440 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 6: I'm with it. You know what I'm saying. 441 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 5: It was, you know, uh, he still wanted to have 442 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 5: his rough and rugged Personay, he sold some of the 443 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:27,679 Speaker 5: girl records. 444 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 6: I had to convince him on a little bit that 445 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 6: he didn't want to do. But he didn't want to 446 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 6: do tat it. 447 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:37,679 Speaker 9: Don't want to do that because he was. 448 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 6: Trying to still be you know, that lyric code spiritual 449 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 6: guy and nothing wrong with that. 450 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 5: But but we had to make some records because we 451 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,360 Speaker 5: had to get it. You know, we got to put 452 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 5: as long as you said. 453 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. 454 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 5: So I'm sitting there and you know, we're pulling it together. 455 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 5: I'm finding these new producers, black milk breams, you know. 456 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 6: Be y'all gunna coming through the hole squad. You know 457 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 6: I'm producing. 458 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 5: We were just pulling it together, man, you know what 459 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 5: I'm saying until it say, give us some beats. But 460 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 5: then when that happened, he goes and remix all the beats. 461 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 5: I chokes, you know what I'm saying. So it was 462 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 5: just a lot when we did that record, So you 463 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, God bless me even pulled it off. 464 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 7: That was a producer that y'all had that was I 465 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 7: don't know if he was in the camp, but I 466 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,879 Speaker 7: would see his credits on stuff Broan E Roan and still. 467 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 3: What I know he did the Ohamad Dia joint that 468 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,959 Speaker 3: y'all was on. Yeah, what what's the deal with him? 469 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 3: Is he still making records? 470 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:42,159 Speaker 6: Like? 471 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 3: Who was he? 472 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 9: Bron and steal was dwell As you might as well say, 473 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 9: like sign to Dweller. You know, Dweller was signed to him, 474 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 9: you know what I'm saying. 475 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 8: So he was like a guy that produced back in 476 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 8: the day and had produced some records and stuff that 477 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 8: Teller didn't want. 478 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:02,640 Speaker 9: To do, you know what I'm saying. 479 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 8: He'd be like, you know, I ain't doing it, and 480 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 8: then he'd be like, Okay, I'll give it a shot, 481 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 8: you know what I'm saying. 482 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 9: So Dealer would like pass off the. 483 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 7: Work, gotcha? Gotcha and R J W V R Gunner. 484 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 7: That was you and Black. Y'all were production team at 485 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 7: that time. 486 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 9: Correct, Yeah, not at Trinity time. 487 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 7: Not at Trinity time, correct, Yeah, but yeah, y'all were 488 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 7: production team at that time. How did y'all come to 489 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 7: work together? And what was y'all collaboration process like as producers? 490 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 6: For me? 491 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 9: Me and Black met through that kids group that I 492 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 9: had kid you Not. 493 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 8: The guy that was closest to my age was in 494 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 8: a group with Black Milk, and he played me some 495 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 8: of their songs over the phone. One of the songs 496 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 8: that I heard was the beat for what is This? 497 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 8: And I was like on Trinity and I was like, you, 498 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 8: he should come up. And then he had another relationship 499 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 8: through by ten, you know what I'm saying, So everybody 500 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 8: had kind of like was like, Okay, he came up there, 501 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,399 Speaker 8: we started working through like mixing us the records and 502 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 8: stuff like that. By the time we was done with Trinity, 503 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 8: me and him was like friends, you know what I'm saying. 504 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 8: So we was like, shit, we're doing all the work, 505 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 8: we might as well just make a production team, you 506 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:17,879 Speaker 8: know what I'm saying, and get it cracking because we're 507 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,360 Speaker 8: doing all the work. And then that's kind of how 508 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 8: br Gunner started, and then it just kept going. 509 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 3: Wait, I'm one second years old. I didn't realize that 510 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 3: b our Gunner was. 511 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 9: Milking young Jay. 512 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 4: I actually thought I was going to say, wait, how 513 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,159 Speaker 4: come NMB one's mentioned in b R Gunner right now? 514 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 4: Like I thought it was an actual person. I'm thinking like, oh, 515 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:49,400 Speaker 4: maybe they got beef with him or something. But I'm 516 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 4: probably the only person I know that actually spends late 517 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 4: eighties in my set, Like obviously your parents are on 518 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 4: it as well. Is there a longer version of the 519 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 4: eight eighties sketch that that was on Trinity? 520 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 3: No, that's on Detroit Delly. 521 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 9: Oh yeah, I think it is. 522 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 8: It's in a uh in one of the machines that 523 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 8: he was talking about, because we recorded on like the 524 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:16,399 Speaker 8: digital machine. 525 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 3: I forgot. There's two versions. The one on Trinity. Yes, 526 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 3: that's the one I'm speaking of. 527 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, it's on the machine in the back. 528 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, right with you on that one and uh 529 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 6: and your mother right and and yeah, yeah. 530 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 3: That's my that's my ship man and also the original version. 531 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 4: All right, So the the version of fall in Love 532 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 4: that is the hidden track on Trinity, the one based 533 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 4: on the remix. 534 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,400 Speaker 3: What happened to uh with Samaya? 535 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 5: Well, well, yeah that we was gonna do this group 536 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 5: called it as Bad, which was right, and somebody was 537 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 5: a part of it, and uh, and we was working 538 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 5: on the records. 539 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 6: I was working on the records. Me and her worked 540 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 6: on that record. Me Her, Vernon and Jay worked on 541 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 6: that producing that record. 542 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 5: But what happened was I think it just got mixed 543 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 5: up because I was kind of dating her and that 544 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 5: kind of got made things up a little bit. Sorry 545 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 5: I did that and it just got messy and my bad. 546 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying to somebody, Yeah, I. 547 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:36,919 Speaker 3: See you. 548 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 4: After the self titled album comes out, the one in 549 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 4: two thousand and five, call me's on that, right, the 550 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 4: Isley Brother joint. 551 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's my ship man. 552 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 4: Even post that, Like and again I know that some 553 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 4: people are just like only dealan fishing out whatever now, 554 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 4: like the entire Slim Village Cannon to me is like 555 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 4: there's so much magic on all these records, though, Like 556 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 4: how for you though? T three with what's happening, especially 557 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 4: with the transitioning of Dyla and by ten and with 558 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 4: L's Eyes dismissal of the group and whatnot, Like, how 559 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,679 Speaker 4: is this winging on your mental do you feel at 560 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 4: some points maybe the universal universe is telling you like, 561 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 4: well maybe I should do something else? Da Like, what 562 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 4: is it that's keeping you still in fighting shape and 563 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 4: wanting to keep this thing alive until you know you 564 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:42,360 Speaker 4: say it's done? 565 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:43,640 Speaker 3: I don't. 566 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 5: You know, I did go through a turn where I 567 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 5: was kind of going through my thing for a minute, 568 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 5: kind of down and out. 569 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,640 Speaker 6: But I luckily I had a nice support group. 570 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:51,920 Speaker 9: Man. 571 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 5: Shout out to H to his dad, big RJ and RJ. 572 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 5: They helped me out a lot, man, you know what 573 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 5: I'm saying. To the point, you know where I just 574 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 5: went through it. You know, I lost everything for a minute, 575 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 5: my girlfriend and everything. I just lost my house, the 576 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 5: place I live, and they really just helped me, you know, 577 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 5: help me get myself back together, you know what I'm saying. 578 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 6: So it did weigh on me a lot, you know 579 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 6: what I'm saying. And it broke me down for a millisecond. 580 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 5: But you know what I'm saying, Well, you know we 581 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 5: kept working, man, And you know, luckily I had some 582 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 5: brothers with me to help me out. Man. And and 583 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 5: that's and That's how I got through it. Man, you 584 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. But it was it was tough 585 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 5: for a second. Cay, you remember them days we was 586 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 5: trying to put that stuff together. Yeah, it's tough. 587 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 3: I was gonna ask you, I ash you a man. 588 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 3: So me and Black we had a conversation. 589 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 7: This is a while back, but we were just talking 590 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,719 Speaker 7: about how with some village we were talking about kind 591 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 7: of difference between y'all and and LB and like, how 592 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 7: y'all because y'all had those two records on Capital and 593 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 7: I had those two big singles, and how that translated 594 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 7: I guess across touring? 595 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 3: How did that show up for y'all on y'all side? 596 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 7: Like, were y'all able to see a difference when it's 597 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 7: like you do your set and then all of a 598 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 7: sudden you do selfish and people like oh that's the 599 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 7: one we know, or they do taint it and it's like, 600 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 7: oh that's the one, or over time was it people 601 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 7: where they die hard? It's like, yo, we want volume two, 602 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 7: we want you know, volume one? Like how did that 603 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 7: look for y'all? You know what I'm saying as a 604 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 7: group that had that major label. 605 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 5: Experience, it looked just like you said, you had a 606 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 5: divided group of folk. 607 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 6: You had these die hard Volume two people. 608 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 3: There's also Volume one people too, right. 609 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 5: And then you had these two big singles and they 610 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 5: didn't always mix together really, you know what I'm saying, 611 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 5: you know, But and that's how it was. So we 612 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 5: and then they would put us in different venues in 613 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 5: different situations to see where we fit. Like one tour 614 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 5: would be with somebody extra hip hop, and then we 615 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 5: did it with nd I Re which was like, oh 616 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 5: it was not the best, by the way. 617 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, So it was like I don't see I don't 618 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 7: see climax going over good with an indie audience that 619 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 7: I don't know. 620 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 6: It was like Marcia and Brosia and Indiri and slum Village, 621 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 6: Like where do we come in in this? I don't 622 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 6: even know what really, you know what I'm saying. 623 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 5: So it was a lot people don't know what a 624 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 5: place is because of what Selfish did or what Tainta did. 625 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 3: Speaking of which I gotta talk about Cloud nine man. Yeah, 626 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 3: just how the anger I had. 627 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 4: So I had to do this tour once in which 628 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 4: Marcia is doing about thirty dates with us, and it's 629 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 4: one of them things where like she sends it MB 630 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 4: three to my phone like this the song I want 631 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 4: to do, and I'm listening and I'm like, oh shit, 632 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:10,479 Speaker 4: I gotta play this every god damn night. Is one 633 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 4: of the most nightmares loopings of gospel drumming. I've like 634 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 4: way past the end of jay Z showing what you got, 635 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 4: like pre anything that I've ever clowned, just plazed for 636 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 4: about that. This is past any like Rush Stewart Copeland, 637 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 4: Like it's the craziest thing. 638 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 3: Can you talk about that? That like what made y'all 639 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 3: want to do this? 640 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 4: This group and their knack for picking the most unorthodox 641 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 4: shit ever. 642 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 3: To rhyme over. 643 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 8: It was one of those things where we was in 644 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 8: Detroit working and a guy who was around the time 645 00:31:53,880 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 8: Scrap Dirty was like, yo, here goes Marsh's out. Focus 646 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 8: has sent it over because he had produced it. 647 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 9: Shout out to Focus, man, yes, So we're like, man, this. 648 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 8: Ship is crazy, we need this and he was like, 649 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 8: I mean it already came out though, and we was like, man, 650 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 8: we don't care. 651 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 9: And then we reached out to Focus and he. 652 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 8: Was like, yeah, ship, y'all can go ahead to use it, 653 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 8: and he sent it you know what I'm saying, and 654 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 8: everybody likes it. 655 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 6: Came to it. 656 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, we had fun and we got a chance to 657 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 5: performing the Cup a couple of times with Marshall live. 658 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 5: And that's a funky record. 659 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 4: That's a funky it's funky, but it's a drummer's nightmare. 660 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 4: So every jam session I'm like, get her backup, drummer, 661 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:45,479 Speaker 4: because I ain't doing those rules ever. 662 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 7: Getting this lifetime man that I wanted to ask y'all 663 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 7: specifically about Scheming. Man y'all able to get you know, 664 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 7: Daylight and and Fife you know what I'm saying, and 665 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,959 Speaker 7: just really kind of bring it, make it complete. 666 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 3: How did y'all put that other man? 667 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 8: Scheming started out as a young er J record. I 668 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 8: was making a solo record in the midst of doing 669 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 8: slum and then they ended up hearing the record and 670 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 8: was like this is crazy. 671 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 9: So T was like, man, this is. 672 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 8: How I think we should do it. I think we 673 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 8: should do it where because he wrote the hook and 674 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 8: he was like, I think we should do it. 675 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 9: Yeah. He was like, man, we should do it where 676 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 9: Daylight saying something and then maybe somebody else is seeing 677 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 9: the hook and somebody else is saying it, and then 678 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 9: we just started reaching out because I had done the 679 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 9: Forever record for Daylight, so I was able to pick 680 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 9: up the phone and call you Forever. I did Forever 681 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 9: in morning Roch God. 682 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 8: Damn. 683 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 4: To this day we still close our show with Forever. 684 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 4: Man that is That's That's one of my favorite, like 685 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 4: top ten songs ever. 686 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 3: Man, I love that shit. 687 00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 5: Man? 688 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 4: Can he talk about like for you as a creator, 689 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 4: as a beat creator, especially you know, the last of 690 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 4: the Mohicans, you know, I mean I put you up there, 691 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:10,879 Speaker 4: milk up there, riggings up there. 692 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 3: You know, there's some catching Detroit that are doing the 693 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 3: thing as well. But like in twenty twenty three. 694 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,719 Speaker 4: How how farn is the lay of the land for you, 695 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:25,360 Speaker 4: at least in terms of where hip hop is today 696 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 4: musically and where people are going, and. 697 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,400 Speaker 3: Like how do you adjust to it? Like what's your 698 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 3: process of creating records? 699 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,879 Speaker 9: Now? Like I'm going to keep it a hunter. It's 700 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,839 Speaker 9: not a lot of inspiration out there to be like, yeah, 701 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 9: this is crazy. 702 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 8: Let me go in the studio and work for the 703 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,879 Speaker 8: most part, unless you're digging you know what I'm saying, 704 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,319 Speaker 8: and you just kind of know like Okay, this dope. 705 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,839 Speaker 9: Bart hast just dropped something on an underground scene or something. 706 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 9: But like I was talking to Black at our Shawan. 707 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,239 Speaker 8: Detroit, and I was like, bro, we all we got 708 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 8: to inspire each other, like, you know, so if you're 709 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,360 Speaker 8: not gonna make that shit or everybody ain't gonna you know, 710 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 8: going there, and we ain't gonna viounce ideas, what else 711 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 8: do we have for inspiration? So it's just kind of 712 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 8: like when I go in there, I'm just making what 713 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 8: I want to hear. I'm past the point of trying 714 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 8: to please people musically. I'm like, if if I'm gonna 715 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 8: throw it up there, then it's just gonna be something 716 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 8: that a piece of art, and that's how I treat it. 717 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 8: And either you get it or you don't. And that's 718 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 8: just kind of where me and Ti at now. Even 719 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 8: we're working on these new records, it's like we creating 720 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 8: art that we want to do that we feel ain't 721 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,879 Speaker 8: there and y'all get it or y'all don't. 722 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 9: You know what I'm saying. 723 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 3: I love it, man, I love it. I want to 724 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 3: ask y'all as well. 725 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,359 Speaker 7: Man went to the new single that y'all got out, 726 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 7: and bro, like how did you hook up with the Dramatics? 727 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,800 Speaker 3: Like where what was that? 728 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 8: Like, Oh, we got hooked up with the Dramatics through 729 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 8: that's pop because he was touring in all of that 730 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,800 Speaker 8: stuff and mixing and mingling, and him and Ryan Banks 731 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,919 Speaker 8: had a super close relationship. 732 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:11,840 Speaker 9: On top of that, at the time, he was dating 733 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,800 Speaker 9: her daughter, I mean his daughter at. 734 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,440 Speaker 8: The time, so you know, we just kind of He 735 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,439 Speaker 8: would come up to the studio all the time, telling 736 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:23,320 Speaker 8: stories him impossible, we talking shit, and then you know, 737 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,239 Speaker 8: it just kind of got to the point where he 738 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,920 Speaker 8: was like, Yo, you know, y'all should record something. So 739 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,840 Speaker 8: the first record we did with the Dramatics was do 740 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:36,880 Speaker 8: Our Thing that was on prequl to a classic Okay. 741 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,319 Speaker 8: Kareem Riggins produced it, and then from that we did 742 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,880 Speaker 8: the be Our Gunner record, and then after that we did. 743 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:46,960 Speaker 9: Some other songs and we just set on vocals. So 744 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 9: it's like songs that I got with the Dramatics with LJ. 745 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 9: Roan and all the original members that we just holding 746 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 9: on to vocals. 747 00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:01,280 Speaker 4: Did they tell you I Vinny there experiences or stories 748 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:06,840 Speaker 4: and whatnot. Yeah, probably three or four years ago. I 749 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:13,479 Speaker 4: didn't realize the movie Detroit was about the Dramatics, even 750 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 4: at the time when we did a song on that record, 751 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:21,840 Speaker 4: So when we got sent over a copy of the 752 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,920 Speaker 4: movie to see it, I didn't realize like that the 753 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:30,960 Speaker 4: Dramatics went through hell they were, but I'm always here 754 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:35,080 Speaker 4: in the Even in Snoops first cover story for the Source, 755 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 4: there's a brief shootout moment that happens and the Dramatics 756 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:43,840 Speaker 4: have they're like coming back. The sore story starts with 757 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:48,360 Speaker 4: them leaving the video shoot for Doggie Dog World and 758 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:53,080 Speaker 4: it just goes like they've been in the craziest situations whatsoever? 759 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,919 Speaker 3: Have Have they ever shared these stories with you guys? 760 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, yeah, he was you know, a lot of 761 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:03,640 Speaker 8: drug use, a lot of Dracond, you know what I'm saying. 762 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,000 Speaker 8: So you know he would he would just come up 763 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 8: there and kick it and you know, talk about the 764 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:11,839 Speaker 8: riots and you know what he experienced seeing and living 765 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,839 Speaker 8: through that, and you know what it was like going 766 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:18,880 Speaker 8: from the big stage to doing smaller shows that was 767 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:23,320 Speaker 8: like less people, but they would do multiple shows tonight, 768 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,000 Speaker 8: you know what I'm saying. So he was just saying, 769 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:29,320 Speaker 8: like the adjustment period of that and you know, like 770 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 8: how to keep a group together and members leaving and 771 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:34,919 Speaker 8: you know all of that. Those are all the things 772 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,040 Speaker 8: that you know what I'm saying, we would talk about 773 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 8: and you know, they would give advice on. 774 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,520 Speaker 7: Man, I wanted to ask you about one of my 775 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,000 Speaker 7: favorite records of yours that you did. 776 00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,239 Speaker 3: You did a record for Pool. This was back when 777 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:48,280 Speaker 3: you and Pool were working together. 778 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,239 Speaker 7: This is I mean got twenty two thousand and eight 779 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,200 Speaker 7: nine something, This is years ago. 780 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,840 Speaker 3: But you did a record for him called what We Are. 781 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:57,959 Speaker 7: We ended up putting it on the Left Back record, 782 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,320 Speaker 7: but it was originally a solo jump there and I 783 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:05,480 Speaker 7: love that song, man, like body that shit just talk 784 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,000 Speaker 7: about kind of like the production of that song. And 785 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,840 Speaker 7: one thing I always admired about you You would always 786 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:14,360 Speaker 7: incorporate you would incorporate live instruments, but it would sound 787 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:18,160 Speaker 7: like a sample. It would sound like something that was vintage. 788 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,800 Speaker 7: How was How did you achieve that in the studio? 789 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,200 Speaker 7: Was that something that you kind of had in mind 790 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:25,279 Speaker 7: or how did that come? 791 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,840 Speaker 8: It started off, you know, with the sample, you know 792 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:33,920 Speaker 8: what I'm saying, That was chopped up, and then I 793 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,239 Speaker 8: had a drum set set up, you know what I'm 794 00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:38,920 Speaker 8: saying at this at the house, and then I just 795 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,400 Speaker 8: got to a point where I would just would get 796 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,480 Speaker 8: on the kit and play and then have musicians come 797 00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,040 Speaker 8: over and add bongos and all that stuff and turn 798 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:48,799 Speaker 8: it into a jam session. You know what I'm saying, 799 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:53,040 Speaker 8: Because at a certain point, music was like getting stiff. 800 00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:55,279 Speaker 9: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. So I was like, 801 00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 9: you know, we just we was. 802 00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:58,960 Speaker 8: Cranking our stuff, and then I want to make sure 803 00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,640 Speaker 8: Pool some joints, you know what I'm saying. So I 804 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,719 Speaker 8: was like super locked in and focused, you know what 805 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,640 Speaker 8: I'm saying. I'm I felt like me and Pool was 806 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,840 Speaker 8: both underdogs, you know what I'm saying in terms of 807 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:14,759 Speaker 8: how people viewed us, And it was like, Yo, we're 808 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:16,680 Speaker 8: gonna we're gonna go in here and lock in and make. 809 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:20,080 Speaker 9: The you know, the dopest ship we can make. And 810 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:24,040 Speaker 9: you know, bringing Craig Lane, you know what I'm saying. 811 00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,040 Speaker 9: He was playing on keys on some of. 812 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,560 Speaker 8: The records, you know what I'm saying. That's what it's 813 00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:32,360 Speaker 8: always been about, making filling up the speaker. A sample 814 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,520 Speaker 8: can only give you so much, you know what I'm saying. 815 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,640 Speaker 4: What are your weapons of choice when you're making this 816 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,000 Speaker 4: these songs? Like are you still on the three thousand. 817 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:42,320 Speaker 4: Have you upgraded to? 818 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,640 Speaker 8: Oh no, I'm on the I'm on the MPC X nah. 819 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:50,040 Speaker 8: And but I still track everything gud like analog. You know, 820 00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,080 Speaker 8: I don't just bounce the file. So I still get 821 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:57,440 Speaker 8: hit the patch bay and go through the eqs and 822 00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 8: uh Mike preeze lining and all that stuff, the eyeboxes. 823 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,800 Speaker 9: It's just to me, you can't get the sound that 824 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,800 Speaker 9: I'm used to without it. I don't know how to 825 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:13,479 Speaker 9: achieve it. So I still go old school change. 826 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:15,160 Speaker 3: So you don't have a Macbok Pro. You don't. You 827 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:15,920 Speaker 3: don't just like. 828 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,600 Speaker 8: I'll sequence everything in the computer, I mean with the 829 00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:21,320 Speaker 8: drum machine. 830 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:22,840 Speaker 9: You know what I'm saying. But when I go to 831 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,200 Speaker 9: track out, you know what I'm saying. I'm tracking out 832 00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,760 Speaker 9: through all vintage stuff. 833 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:32,000 Speaker 4: So is there a new round of young producers that 834 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:34,960 Speaker 4: are in Detroit that is sort of being mentored by 835 00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,040 Speaker 4: you and Milking and Ricka? Is the way that you 836 00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:39,759 Speaker 4: guys were mentored through Dylan. 837 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:41,719 Speaker 9: It's it's guys out here. 838 00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:48,880 Speaker 8: You got you got people who's coming with with Doss. 839 00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:53,560 Speaker 8: It's attitude that's handling them thout. For some reason, they're 840 00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:59,520 Speaker 8: not able to jail with anybody, you know what I'm saying. 841 00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,239 Speaker 4: So it's it's like there's not a hip hop shop 842 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:07,360 Speaker 4: sort of epicenter that someone in a way that Marie 843 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,080 Speaker 4: threw that stuff for you guys, there's not someone carrying 844 00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:10,839 Speaker 4: that tradition now. 845 00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:13,719 Speaker 8: Nah. But that's what me and T was talking about, 846 00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:18,840 Speaker 8: were talking about trying to open something, you know what 847 00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:20,799 Speaker 8: I'm saying, where we can have the community to come. 848 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,960 Speaker 8: You got to sput the spots like Paramuta here that 849 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,839 Speaker 8: do little dope DJ things, you know what I'm saying, 850 00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,279 Speaker 8: like around electronic music fest things like that. 851 00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:33,640 Speaker 9: But it's not a whole lot is like a hug 852 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,360 Speaker 9: anymore that that people can go to. 853 00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:40,000 Speaker 8: And that's what we need to get back to, you 854 00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:41,680 Speaker 8: know what I'm saying, in order to be able to 855 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:43,480 Speaker 8: raise up that next crop out the city. 856 00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:48,719 Speaker 4: Okay, And I guess in terms of terrestrial radio is 857 00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:52,960 Speaker 4: concerned like does that have the same hole that it 858 00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:56,160 Speaker 4: once held in Detroit? Like is there any figure in 859 00:42:56,440 --> 00:43:00,560 Speaker 4: radio that is just as expansive or wild? They're crazy 860 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:05,120 Speaker 4: as you know, growing up in the early period was 861 00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:05,680 Speaker 4: for you guys. 862 00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,040 Speaker 9: You got T three on the on the radio. 863 00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:09,960 Speaker 8: Now, so that's where you know what I'm saying, you're 864 00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:13,040 Speaker 8: getting that other variety of music. 865 00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,800 Speaker 5: Okay, Yeah, I do a two hour show on Sundays 866 00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:19,520 Speaker 5: and they basically let me play what I want to play. 867 00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:23,279 Speaker 6: I ain't going crazy, though, I am not mojo crazy. 868 00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,920 Speaker 3: You gotta no, man, I'm telling you you gotta go 869 00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:28,000 Speaker 3: mojo crazy. Yo. 870 00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:33,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, you got to Okay, Okay, I'm serious, Like. 871 00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:40,480 Speaker 3: That's I remember questioning go crazy, so on him. 872 00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:41,160 Speaker 9: No. 873 00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:45,759 Speaker 4: But I feel like if that to me is that 874 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:49,000 Speaker 4: opens up so many creative portals because even the first night, 875 00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,040 Speaker 4: the first night, you know, when when you go there, 876 00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:53,600 Speaker 4: you're sort of like, Okay, I want to see what 877 00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,680 Speaker 4: these cats really about because it sounds crazy on record, 878 00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,920 Speaker 4: but let me see what they're about. And I'll never 879 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,319 Speaker 4: forget the first night that the three of you were 880 00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:09,200 Speaker 4: in the basement together, right before it by ten leaves, 881 00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:12,080 Speaker 4: He's like yo, he tells Dylan. He's like yo, man, 882 00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:14,640 Speaker 4: He's like, I want you to make a joint to 883 00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:18,560 Speaker 4: herb Albert's Root one on one, And I was like, 884 00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,239 Speaker 4: wait a minute, that's the song always Here when like, 885 00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:26,920 Speaker 4: to me, that's the ultimate yacht rock Dennis song that 886 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:30,800 Speaker 4: I mean, when you're the dentist officer. You're shopping and 887 00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,160 Speaker 4: I was like, wait, did he actually say he wants 888 00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:34,719 Speaker 4: to rhyme to root one on one? 889 00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:35,960 Speaker 3: Like that's the most. 890 00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:41,040 Speaker 4: Craziest, Like, doesn't he mean rise by Herb Albert, not 891 00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:42,840 Speaker 4: root one on one? He's like, no, he wants to 892 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,640 Speaker 4: like the World's Happy Song. It's like, you're gonna. 893 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:47,040 Speaker 6: Flip that ship. 894 00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:48,759 Speaker 3: He's like, hell, yeah, I'm gonna flip that shit. 895 00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,960 Speaker 4: Like to me, it's I feel like what makes the 896 00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:57,120 Speaker 4: choice special is that you guys are not quick to 897 00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:58,279 Speaker 4: say the word no. 898 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:01,959 Speaker 3: As fast as other people would. 899 00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:05,080 Speaker 4: And I think that that's that's kind of notable, you know, 900 00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:08,560 Speaker 4: and you already see the evidence of that and how 901 00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:10,919 Speaker 4: the ripple effects and how it affects people. So yet 902 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:12,960 Speaker 4: I know, two years just like, hey, I do a 903 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:16,359 Speaker 4: two hour show on Sunday and it might not matter. 904 00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:20,920 Speaker 4: But you know, even if you reach one person that 905 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,560 Speaker 4: that spark happens to you, then you know, I feel 906 00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:26,080 Speaker 4: like that's that's a job well done. 907 00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:27,040 Speaker 5: Nah. 908 00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:28,920 Speaker 7: Seriously, bro, I mean me and team we've talked. I 909 00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:30,800 Speaker 7: mean we've all three of us, we've like talked, you know, 910 00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,600 Speaker 7: at different points in time. But seriously, man, I just 911 00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:35,560 Speaker 7: had to, you know, just say to y'all, bros, we 912 00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,879 Speaker 7: celebrate Iune if you're an LB and I tell people 913 00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,000 Speaker 7: all the time. And we were making our first album, 914 00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,560 Speaker 7: you know, the listening like I had, We listened to 915 00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:48,640 Speaker 7: Fantastic Volume two religiously. I played the fucking MP three 916 00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:52,040 Speaker 7: tags off that now and like I will hold up 917 00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:53,960 Speaker 7: in the studio and we would. I would tell ninth 918 00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,520 Speaker 7: Poop all the crew straight up, like yo, if we 919 00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:58,640 Speaker 7: ain't making nothing nicking fuck with this, then we don't 920 00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,200 Speaker 7: even need to waste our time, right like this is 921 00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,360 Speaker 7: the bar if we ain't bringing it like these niggas. 922 00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,000 Speaker 3: It's still in my north start of this day. 923 00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:11,759 Speaker 9: Man, no man, love y'all brothers, man, and just thank 924 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:13,680 Speaker 9: you for everything. Man, appreciate you. 925 00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,120 Speaker 3: So on behalf of the team. 926 00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:21,560 Speaker 4: Takeolo La Yah un paid, Bill Sugar, Steve, myself, the 927 00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:24,920 Speaker 4: Great R. J. Rice, and the one and only T 928 00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:29,239 Speaker 4: three Detroit to own slum Village. Support your gods. Man 929 00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:32,000 Speaker 4: there there's they're still here with us and Taren on 930 00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:33,799 Speaker 4: an awesome legacy this quest. 931 00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,080 Speaker 3: Love Supreme, and we will see you on the next 932 00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:37,400 Speaker 3: go round, y'all. Thank you. 933 00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:53,720 Speaker 1: M much, Love Supreme. Is a production of iHeart Radio. 934 00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:01,000 Speaker 1: For more podcasts from iHeart Radio, visit the iHeartRadio app, 935 00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:04,280 Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.