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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season to fifteen, episode

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Speaker 1: one of Dirt, as production of I Heart Radio. This

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Speaker 1: is a podcast where we take a deep dive into

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Speaker 1: America's share consciousness. And it is Monday, just ybert one,

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Speaker 1: which of course means it's National horse Day, National ice

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Speaker 1: cream Day, and most importantly, my little sister Caitlin's birthday.

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Speaker 1: Happy Birthday, Caitlin. My name is Jack O'Brien. Ahead one, two, three,

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Speaker 1: into the four. A hot doggie dog is just bolognay

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Speaker 1: at its core. If you're if you're in her, you

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Speaker 1: don't have to heat it up, you just gotta dip

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Speaker 1: it in catch up. That is courtesy of Chris mack Ling.

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Speaker 1: You said crazy facts for your a k A. I

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Speaker 1: just loved the like elementary school science teacher vibe of that.

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Speaker 1: I'm surprised he didn't come from Jamie Loftus. I feel

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Speaker 1: like it was maybe done in her honor. Yeah. Man, rely,

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Speaker 1: she's got me thinking about hot dogs and reasonably considering

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Speaker 1: calling them glizzies, which is still the worst word ever invented. Glizzies. Glyzzies. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't like it. Yeah, that's it. So we were

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Speaker 1: talking about how in elementary school, had a friend who

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Speaker 1: would just house raw hot dogs for lunch. It was disturbing,

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Speaker 1: but I I started doing it because I thought he

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Speaker 1: was cool. He was a year older than me. But

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Speaker 1: then I was like, do I have like as most

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Speaker 1: of my body eat cole I at this point because

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Speaker 1: I did that for such a long period of my life.

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Speaker 1: But turns out, courtesy of Chris Mackling, you're all right

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Speaker 1: to just have You don't have to cook some You

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Speaker 1: can just eat a raw hot dog in the same

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Speaker 1: way that I feel like you should never boil out dog.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you should ever eat one raw, but

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Speaker 1: you can, but it's gross. So you're not a boiled

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Speaker 1: hot dogs? Hell no, why people introduced me to and

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Speaker 1: I was like, I don't understand why you're doing this

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Speaker 1: because you could pan fry it right, like the way

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Speaker 1: you slice them and then you press them through the pants.

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Speaker 1: We like crisp on the outside. And listen, I'm not

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Speaker 1: about boiling meats. Is where in the water that's weird

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Speaker 1: that that is generously assuming hot dogs or meats. You know,

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Speaker 1: they are more of a slurry in a in a

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Speaker 1: very specific shape. But this hot dog conversation today, Yes,

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Speaker 1: because I so. I associated pan fried hot dogs with

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Speaker 1: home made hot dogs, and then boiled hot dogs with

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Speaker 1: the street like New York street hot dogs, like where

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Speaker 1: they're just out of like a vat of water where

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Speaker 1: it's been like warmed for a couple of weeks and

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Speaker 1: they're always We don't have these carts in the Midwest.

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Speaker 1: Chicago had big cities sometimes on hot dog carts, you know,

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Speaker 1: chogle the hot dog. I grew up in the country

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Speaker 1: and in the corn and the most like social hot

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Speaker 1: dog eating I did was like when you just shove

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Speaker 1: the hot dog on a stick and then stick it

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Speaker 1: in a fire around the campfire. That's how we did

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Speaker 1: hot dogs. That's the best way to eat hot dogs,

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Speaker 1: like so good when they're like blistered and like kind

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Speaker 1: of exploding, part of them starts like bubbling and like violent.

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Speaker 1: Yeah it is, it is. And you can do it

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Speaker 1: at like five no skilled. If I just like jam go,

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Speaker 1: I'm cooking the fire, you feel like primitive and alive

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Speaker 1: class And you used the same stick for a marshmallow,

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Speaker 1: of course you don't need a second stick. Used the

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Speaker 1: opposite end really or the same end and get a

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Speaker 1: little bit of a perfect all right, Well you've already

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Speaker 1: heard from both of them, but I am thrilled to

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Speaker 1: be joined by a very special guest co host who

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Speaker 1: you know from Fake Doctor's Real Friends. She's a fabulous

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Speaker 1: Joel Moon. Hey, what's up? Coming back to be Marvel

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Speaker 1: defender once again? Help us my nineties nostalgia movie advice

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Speaker 1: have you and Joel. We are thrilled to be joined

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Speaker 1: to the relatable, the fantastic, and at times tastefully in

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Speaker 1: a appropriate work. Please welcome Kim Window. Hello. That was

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Speaker 1: a very nice intro. Thank you, thanks for being here. Kim.

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Speaker 1: Did I pronounce your last name right this time? And

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Speaker 1: it's like a I always get it exactly wrong, like

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Speaker 1: it winder or winder? It's winder? You got it right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Like in my mind it's always been winder, like there's

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Speaker 1: I apologize. Winder is a much nicer sounding name. So

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Speaker 1: it's wine all the time. Well I do wine, but

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Speaker 1: not like emotionally I drink it, right, Yeah, I was

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Speaker 1: thinking winder like sidewinder, like it was giving snake, yeah,

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Speaker 1: which is which is kind of cool. Actually, I just

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Speaker 1: tattoos will change it. Yeah, very clear. Yeah, Kim, how

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Speaker 1: have you been? What's going on? I'm good. I'm doing

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Speaker 1: the comics full time now. Finally, congratulation, Thank you, It's awesome.

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Speaker 1: It's it's been like kind of drying because it's still knew,

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Speaker 1: like a month in and so I wake up and

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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, ship, I'm late to work, and like,

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Speaker 1: oh no, oh I'm not. I'm not late. I will

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Speaker 1: never be late for work again, exactly. That's wonderful. And

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Speaker 1: the last time you were on, I believe your husband

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Speaker 1: can go. Someone called him like the sexy ned Flanders

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Speaker 1: can't I can't not see it. He's diddling something. I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you that, all right. What that compliment assumes that

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Speaker 1: Ned Flanders isn't sexy? I was gonna say too, he is.

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Speaker 1: He's a hottie. Marge is clearly sexually attracted to Ned Flanders.

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Speaker 1: I just need to stay away from T shirt cannons. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you should be fine. That's right, all right, Kim. We're

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about the return of the erotic thriller.

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Speaker 1: hop Ed about what it's like being sleuthed on the Internet,

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Speaker 1: woodster to all that anymore. The first can we do

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Speaker 1: So essentially ham cheese, breaded, fried, and then you would

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Speaker 1: And so ever, since Trump's election, there's been a lot

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Speaker 1: I don't know much about anything. I think it's honestly

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Speaker 1: I have to actively recognize that, Oh he thinks lesser

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Speaker 1: someone of the other party. I feel like that's convoluted

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00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 1: because you don't know everyone you're buying to stop it

426
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:23,639
Speaker 1: husually think you if their opinions were publicly displayed and

427
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,440
Speaker 1: we're I don't know, actively harming our community and you

428
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 1: were very aware of it. Yes, of course you would

429
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 1: not shop there, but otherwise you're you're just trying to

430
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 1: get whatever it is you're trying to get and get

431
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 1: on with your day. But I also feel this is

432
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 1: from the perspective of the way Republicans are sort of

433
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 1: projecting themselves into media right now. There's this idea of

434
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:46,120
Speaker 1: like we're being left out. We can't be in the mainstream.

435
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 1: I don't understand how you can be. I'm against government

436
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 1: and frankly individual liberties, and I want everyone to carry

437
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 1: a gun. I don't care whether you feel safe, but

438
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,920
Speaker 1: also please include me and all of your activities. Why

439
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,879
Speaker 1: am I not invited to the picnic? Why are you

440
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 1: afraid of me? It's such as you boiled the hot dogs,

441
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 1: damage the hot dogs, biled the hot dogs, and it's

442
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,120
Speaker 1: nasty and foul. You did not use the correct seasoning.

443
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 1: All of your best recipes come from the black people

444
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 1: you used to own. Like it's weird. Get out of here. Yeah,

445
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 1: I don't I truly do not understand how you can

446
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 1: want to be so antisocial but also be involved in

447
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 1: the culture at the same time, Like lions have to

448
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 1: be drowned somewhere. It's almost like they're wildly entitled and

449
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 1: have no sense of the fucking damage and harm that

450
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 1: they're horrifying beliefs. Cause I just read an article that

451
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 1: was all about what it was like inside Germany after

452
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 1: they lost World War Two and just like the you know,

453
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 1: coming to terms with themselves as as Nazis, and it

454
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 1: was very slow process that involved a lot of cognitive

455
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 1: dissonance and people just not being willing to recognize what

456
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 1: they did, kind of the same way we did with slavery.

457
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 1: I really feel like it's exactly the same. Sure, there

458
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 1: was like but if you think about everything happens before

459
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 1: the launch of Jim Crow, it's like, oh, black people

460
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 1: are free. That's sort of terrifying. Um, keep them in

461
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 1: their own communities, just we'll just like gently exclude them

462
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: from everything, and uh, you know what, you can pay

463
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 1: them two dollars, it's fine, Like really really lower that

464
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 1: minimum wage so that we can keep them at reasonable

465
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 1: prices and we don't tank our economy and then it

466
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 1: was like, oh they God, they're accumulating wealth, cannot have.

467
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 1: We do not like them living better than us. Put

468
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 1: on your hoods, burn their towns down, get rid of it.

469
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 1: The law. People don't like that we are breaking the law.

470
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: Got it, Jim Crow laws. Now that is legal and

471
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 1: it's fine. The racism is over. What are you talking about?

472
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 1: It's such a weird I guess as we as people

473
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 1: and I just human beings in general just are not

474
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 1: comfortable accepting our roles in awful things. And our our

475
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 1: best defense to quote uncore protect ourselves is just distance

476
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 1: yourself as much as possible, as quickly as possible from

477
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 1: what you've done, but also don't change anything because we

478
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 1: sort of like how things are. There was a Twitter thread,

479
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 1: i'm wanna say yesterday or maybe a few days ago,

480
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 1: where a black family was selling their home in San

481
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 1: Francisco and they got appraised and it came in super low,

482
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 1: but they had an odd feeling about it, so they

483
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 1: had their white friend step in and redecorate a little

484
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 1: bit by changing photos, had it reappraised again, went up

485
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 1: like doubled essentially. Yeah, and a lot of black people

486
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 1: are doing this now. Just call a white friend. You

487
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 1: should everyone should have one. You need one good white friend.

488
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 1: They can come bail you out when things are sticky.

489
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 1: I like to keep white ladies around, particularly once that

490
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 1: can cry on cue. Um. So he was ready for me, honey, Like,

491
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 1: let's do it. And she's a good person and we

492
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 1: don't hurt her. So I feel safe in large spaces. Yeah,

493
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: that's it's it's chippy. There's a different article today about

494
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 1: a woman who can pass because she doesn't try. She

495
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 1: just can. People don't recognize that she's black, and she

496
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 1: lives in an affluent white neighborhood. And she just wrote,

497
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 1: like talked about all of the things people have said

498
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 1: to her because they don't know she's black. And like,

499
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 1: my favorite one is like why do you have a

500
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 1: Black Lives Matter sign? Like that you're just out here

501
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 1: killing themselves. Man, ma'am exhausting. Jesus Christ exhausting. What a

502
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 1: great time to be alive, truly, truly. Yeah, I mean

503
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 1: America has been bad, a bad place to be alive

504
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 1: for a lot of people. It's just like I think

505
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,719
Speaker 1: we're now coming to terms with it. I just think

506
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 1: every generation has to continually come to terms with it. Though, right,

507
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 1: especially because we do a lot to shield our children

508
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 1: from terrible things for good reasons. You should be able

509
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 1: to have a childithood and I have to deal with

510
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 1: this stuff. But then suddenly it's like, okay, so we're

511
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: just gonna talk about slavery. They did what my successors.

512
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 1: I would be there, crap that sucks, okay, and I'm

513
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 1: gonna talk to you about how we tried to extinguish

514
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: an entire race of people when we first got here.

515
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,479
Speaker 1: What that's awful. I thought we enjoyed Thanksgiving. That's not

516
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: how that actually went out. We had to like problestantly

517
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 1: go through this process of unlearning things that we've learned.

518
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: And I think, m it's valid because it's something way

519
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 1: it could stay fresh. And I'm uncomfortable. Like Barry Jenkins

520
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 1: just did this great series on Amazon called Underground, and

521
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 1: he spoke a lot about how he's like, I didn't

522
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: want to dwell in it. But at the same time,

523
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 1: I can't ignore sleep. I can't not looking in the

524
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 1: face and address it directly. You like my ancestors survived that,

525
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 1: I have to go look at it and stay in

526
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: these places and try to feel and come to terms

527
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 1: with what happened. I think it sucks, a really sucks,

528
00:32:56,000 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 1: but I also think it's vital. Yeah, Like so this

529
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 1: article Germany went from they're kind of national, like the

530
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 1: zeitgeist opinion was that like their loss in World War

531
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: Two and all the you know, revelations around the Holocaust

532
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 1: were a part of a Jewish conspiracy. They called it.

533
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 1: American financial interests had like put together this conspiracy. But

534
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 1: as we talked about on an episode last week, like

535
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 1: Germany has become you know, not they're not perfect, but

536
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 1: they are a model of like a nation that has

537
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 1: actually accounted for, like come to terms with at least

538
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 1: and is trying to pay reparations and like do actual

539
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 1: things to to deal with their past. So there there

540
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 1: is a a path to it. It's just a long

541
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 1: and painful and fucking brutal one, but like that, the

542
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,959
Speaker 1: work needs to be done. My roommate, well, she actually

543
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 1: just moved back to Many. Her grandfather was literally a Nazi,

544
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 1: And the way she talked to me about it, they say,

545
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 1: we not you never talked about the individual families because

546
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 1: there is that great shame about just the involvement. So

547
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 1: it is talked and still uncomfortable, but it's like we

548
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 1: all fucked up and we're going to talk about it.

549
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 1: And it was more of a community change, and you

550
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 1: just don't talk about the individuals because it's just she

551
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 1: said it like it ate her up inside, like how

552
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 1: could my grandfather be such such a terrible human? You know? Um,

553
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 1: I wonder if America could ever get to that. I

554
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 1: feel like, no know what I want to believe, But

555
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 1: I also feel like we're again just as a country,

556
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 1: just like especially for last year, was any indication, you know,

557
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 1: there was that giant swell of like, we are not

558
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 1: gonna let this happen anymore, and we're gonna higher so

559
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 1: many black people and we're going to like put some

560
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: respect on indigenous people's names and it's going to be

561
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 1: changed forever. And then this year you see a ton

562
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: of black freelancers talking about how projects that got picked

563
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 1: up suddenly dropped, agents just not calling back, like it

564
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 1: was just a complete abandonment within a year. And I

565
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 1: think that's sort of our future trajectory. It's just kind

566
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: of like these small swells of like, oh, we don't

567
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 1: want to be that, but we're legitimately never going to

568
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 1: change anything. But please don't think of us that way.

569
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: It's just I think we prefer that contradictory state of existence. Yeah,

570
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 1: I mean, something will have to change because to this

571
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: point it's been just a steady rhythm of people coming

572
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: up against the reality of America's history and the reality

573
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 1: of America's present, and then there is a white backlash,

574
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 1: and you know that we're seeing that. We saw that

575
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 1: in January six, we'll see that probably in election, which

576
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: certainly I'm like as pessimistic about is I think I've

577
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:07,800
Speaker 1: ever been, And yeah, I just don't. So something will

578
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 1: need to change, alright, just real quick, Well we'll dig

579
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 1: in a little bit more on the Kellogg's and the details.

580
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 1: Just don't eat any fucking Kellogg's. Don't buy anything from Kellogg's. There.

581
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 1: The fucking worst, they work force their workers to endorse

582
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 1: seventy two to eighty four hour work weeks and over

583
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,959
Speaker 1: time was mandated, and employees struggled to even get time

584
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 1: off for funerals, some of them working up to a

585
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,800
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty days without a day off. Their CEO

586
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: makes twelve million dollars million, fired literally everybody who was striking,

587
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:44,839
Speaker 1: which is not only illegal but just morally reprehensible. We've

588
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 1: already gone through this with factories before. It's completely unnecessary.

589
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,399
Speaker 1: You guys can afford to pay workers, and I think

590
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,280
Speaker 1: that's really the thing we want to drive home today.

591
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 1: They can afford it. This is not going to bankrupt Kellogg's.

592
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 1: They will be okay. The price of your cereal doesn't

593
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: even need to change that much. You can still avoid

594
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 1: these not too expensive but sort of overpriced. If you've

595
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 1: ever looked at a brand name like these tastes the same.

596
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: It's been evil since day one, like well, like corn

597
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:19,240
Speaker 1: flakes were supposed to cure the masturbation urges of people,

598
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,760
Speaker 1: like the so bland you won't want to have sex?

599
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 1: Where is the logs evil day one? This is even

600
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:34,720
Speaker 1: worth just one person's just diseased brain that just fucking

601
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 1: exploded all over like our entire grocery store shelves, And

602
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,399
Speaker 1: just like the entire history of the twentieth century, these

603
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 1: bottom of the barrel fox they gave their workers cookies

604
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 1: during a pandemic. They're like the job, guys, have a

605
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 1: cookie that you probably made. They're probably spread cookies. No man,

606
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 1: But to your point, Joel, they made four billion dollars

607
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 1: in profits years profit, not like they made four millions

608
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 1: billion dollars in revenue and like a struggling to say,

609
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 1: but they made four billion dollars in profits. This goes

610
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 1: back to you know that everybody's talking about inflation and

611
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 1: how like inflations out of control, and they're blaming these

612
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: like economic indicators as though like paying people or like

613
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 1: people getting money from the government. They're like, well, that's

614
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 1: what it is. As if first of all, as if

615
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 1: economics is not a complete bullshit social science, but also

616
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: as if like the economy is like some physics based

617
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 1: formula that can't be affected. And the truth is, these

618
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 1: corporations are making larger profits than they've ever made. You

619
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 1: are seeing that in the way that the stock market

620
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:50,359
Speaker 1: is reacting. The stock market is doing great because they

621
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 1: have just changed what people are like willing to accept

622
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 1: their like realizing our ship, we can like raise the

623
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: prices and that's gonna be really really good for our

624
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:07,320
Speaker 1: profits and therefore our stock prices. And then they get

625
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: this ship covered in the mainstream media as if it's

626
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 1: the fucking striking worker's fault, and like that is the

627
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 1: narrative that you hear that it's like the fault of

628
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 1: the labor class for prices going up, and it's like,

629
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 1: how how the fuck are are we like regurgitating this bullshirt? Well, okay,

630
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:35,919
Speaker 1: so circling back to hot dogs, Okay, the whole point

631
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 1: of the book the Jungle. I think exposure day on

632
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 1: workers just like losing lens to meet grinders at this

633
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 1: smeat factory and there was outwroar, not because the workers

634
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 1: were being maimed, it was because I got a finger

635
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 1: in my fucking hot dog. Like that. Until the public

636
00:39:55,640 --> 00:40:00,040
Speaker 1: as a whole, as us as a community, really it

637
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 1: piste off, it's just going to keep going. And I

638
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 1: think it's happening slowly, mostly because you're seeing it across

639
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 1: multiple different types of what was working for different types

640
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 1: of workers. Essentially you have farm workers, factory workers, you

641
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 1: can look at the entertainment field, you can look at

642
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,839
Speaker 1: even sports, like those guys are constantly trying to make

643
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 1: sure you see what the w n b A is

644
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 1: trying to achieve when a lot of their contract negotiations

645
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 1: and things like that. I think as the whole, we're

646
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,359
Speaker 1: sort of come to this conclusion, particularly coming off of

647
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 1: essentially twenty years of corporations just being too big to fail,

648
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 1: and like, you know, we have CEO screwing us over

649
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 1: and then getting the lightest of sentences and parachute salaries

650
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: to see them out the door. I think people are

651
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 1: getting there, but they're in America. We're not taught. Are

652
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 1: what powers we have? Early enough? Right, it's not And

653
00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:00,320
Speaker 1: by the time you need to use those powers almost

654
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: seems like a fever dream. You're like, how would that

655
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 1: even work? It's so foreign to me. I've never witnessed

656
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 1: anyone doing it. I don't have a history of my

657
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 1: family trying to achieve these things. I think where we've

658
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 1: seen a lot of work organization are things that don't

659
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 1: exist anymore. We think a lot about like rail workers

660
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 1: and coal workers and pipe fitters and all those guys

661
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 1: are sort of locked in and good to go. And still,

662
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 1: you know, bringing in family, it's a smaller subsect. So

663
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna see it happen, especially the more

664
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 1: people like Kellogg's decided to do things like hire an

665
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 1: entire new tier people with out the ability to ever

666
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 1: advance in the company. They're essentially hiring people now on me,

667
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 1: like you'll be a factory worker for life, never expect

668
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 1: to see management, never a raise for what coming here

669
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 1: work until you drop in and leave. We see it

670
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 1: in the um. What's going on with like chicken farms

671
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 1: and stuff. The way those guys are treated and literally

672
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 1: peeing in bottles next to the food they're slaughtering. It's dangerous.

673
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 1: COVID is rampant. Fair. I really do feel like we're

674
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:07,839
Speaker 1: on a wave of worker action right now, and they are,

675
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 1: like you said, I mean, they're the reason that that

676
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 1: is going to happen because prices, every every economic indicator

677
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 1: has gone up except for wages, Like wages have stayed

678
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 1: stagnant for fucking like twenty five years now, Like minimum

679
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 1: wage has stayed stagnant for like decades, and they're just basically,

680
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 1: you know, riding it until the wheels fall off. They're

681
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 1: just like, yeah, we're gonna see how far we can

682
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 1: push this thing. And as the two thousand eight economic

683
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 1: crisis showed us, we're not the ones who are going

684
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 1: to get left holding the bag. So we'll just keep

685
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 1: on abusing the system until it spits out its last fucking,

686
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,280
Speaker 1: you know, chunk of change for us, and then we'll

687
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 1: you know, go live on our island in the Pacific

688
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,399
Speaker 1: that we bought. You want to know, Okay, So here's

689
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 1: my theory. They're just waiting for the robot labor force.

690
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 1: There are for technolog leogy to catch up to it,

691
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 1: and I really do think they're like to keep cost

692
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 1: down as much as possible. We will buy an entire

693
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 1: robot labor for us. It's a one time g with

694
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 1: some technical updates here and there, and we'll be good

695
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,439
Speaker 1: for at least the next what twenty years? You could

696
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,399
Speaker 1: probably run on that tech depending on where you're at

697
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 1: and and how tactile the robotic structure is, you know,

698
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 1: whatever you needge to view, how fast isn't working, how

699
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: quickly doesn't break down? Hopefully it's not a McDonald's Trevor

700
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 1: was ice cream donald breaking down, which, honestly, I really

701
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 1: feel like if we want to get tech people, listen

702
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 1: up getting on on this theory right now. Just start

703
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 1: making terrible machines for these companies so that they have

704
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 1: no choice and and and make sure you write in

705
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 1: your contract you can't use anyone else and we're the

706
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 1: only ones who can fix it. And then higher a

707
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 1: bunch of workers, you know, And that's how we're going

708
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 1: that's how we beat the corporations. Yeah, that is literally

709
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 1: what the what that company did? Who made there who

710
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 1: made their ice cream machines. But unfortunately they like somebody

711
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 1: else made a thing to fix it, and they suited

712
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 1: that company. They're like no, no, no, no, no, you

713
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 1: can't here. Yeah. So I don't know. I think they

714
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 1: were like making billions. As depressing as it all is,

715
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 1: I'm I don't think I'm jaded enough yet, because I

716
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 1: do think we're on the cusp of a revolution or

717
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:25,919
Speaker 1: change with workers, especially gen Z. They do not take

718
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 1: ship from I love them to death. I was at

719
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 1: Starbucks this morning and this this kid, he had to

720
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 1: be like nineteen, just goes in with roller skates. He

721
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 1: got his one earring in just no fox given love

722
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:45,840
Speaker 1: him and I just they. I think they're paying attention

723
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 1: and listening and they're not going to let themselves be

724
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 1: treated like trash anymore. Yeah. So I'm really hoping that

725
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 1: before the robots come in, we get gen Z to

726
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 1: either hack the system and overhaul it, because yeah, I

727
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 1: think it's take all of us. I don't I don't

728
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 1: want to leave it to just the kids. We're all here,

729
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 1: we're all doing it. That's true. Kids, you inspire me

730
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 1: so much. Thank you for being your beautiful, unique sells

731
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 1: and not taking ship. Thank you for reminding me that

732
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 1: I don't need to take ship. But also super here

733
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 1: with you. Just ready if it's a good site, because

734
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:21,800
Speaker 1: oh it's good, it's gonna be a doozy of an effort.

735
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's also as the baby Boomers and

736
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:32,320
Speaker 1: silent generation, I guess and Joe Biden and Donald Trump's

737
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 1: case like mercifully die off, like we hopefully like there

738
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 1: will be a dual action of younger pro socialists generations

739
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 1: taking over as like this just wildly out of touch

740
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: and pathologically selfish generation disappears. That is believe so many

741
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: another brand of the same use just being like, oh

742
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 1: that seems like the life right there. I'm right emilate

743
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 1: that to a t. We gotta switch those guys minds

744
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 1: before they get too old and too empower Yeah, all right,

745
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break. We'll come back and talk

746
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:10,319
Speaker 1: about couch Guy. Hopefully get to uh talk about some

747
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 1: erotic thrillers. And we're back and couch Guy, who we

748
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 1: might all remember from the TikTok video where his girlfriend

749
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 1: came to surprise him. His long distance girlfriend came to

750
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 1: surprise him at college. The video showed her like showing

751
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 1: up him being surprised, getting up from the couch and

752
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 1: giving her a hug. And this kicked off a level

753
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 1: of just analysis, frame by frame, just deep diving into

754
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 1: you know, body language expert analysis, which is a made

755
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 1: up thing that the mainstream media loves to pretend to exists.

756
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 1: That people were highly suspects of this couch guy because

757
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 1: he did not seem excited enough to see his girlfriend,

758
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 1: his long distance girlfriend in the ten seconds. I think

759
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:18,760
Speaker 1: it was like one of the shortest. I couldn't believe

760
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:22,280
Speaker 1: when I finally saw the video that everybody was talking about.

761
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 1: It was insane, Like I wanted to talk a lot,

762
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:31,760
Speaker 1: and it was just like two weeks of couch guy content. Honestly,

763
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 1: to me, he just he looked stoned the whole reason

764
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 1: why he was slow to get up. But it just

765
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 1: all the videos on TikTok like it was a vile hashtag.

766
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:49,879
Speaker 1: And she even made merch the girlfriend. It was crazy, Yeah,

767
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 1: make that money while you can't. You know this is

768
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:53,799
Speaker 1: gonna last ten seconds. You said, let me get some

769
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 1: coin real quick. That's a vacation. I love entrepreneurship. It's beautiful.

770
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 1: I wonder how much Britney Spears case has to do

771
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 1: with this sort of surgeon. We've seen an internet sleuping

772
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 1: because I don't know if you guys remember or for

773
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 1: the steners who maybe don't know, like a fans like Britney,

774
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 1: if you're not okay, wear a yellow T shirt And

775
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 1: the next day she's wearing yellow T shirt on her

776
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 1: Instagram and really like bold about it, like, yo, this

777
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 1: is my yellow shirt, ha ha. And then it sort

778
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 1: of evolves in like Britney's really in trouble, we have

779
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 1: to help her. And Brittany was in trouble, she was

780
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:30,280
Speaker 1: not in a good way and she really didn't need help.

781
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 1: And I think it's interesting. I just wonder that. And

782
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 1: Georgia and Karen for my favorite murder or the serial

783
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:42,799
Speaker 1: podcast has really brought this boom in true crime. There's

784
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 1: even a game now that you can play, which I

785
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 1: forget the name of it right now, but essentially it

786
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 1: allows you to play being a detective. But all the

787
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 1: money you put into this game goes into trying to

788
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 1: solve cold cases. And there's a lot of people who

789
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 1: feel empower it around this idea of like oh, as

790
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 1: like again, as a community, we can connect do what

791
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 1: the police, who a lot of us are against, can't

792
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 1: do and solve these crimes. But I do think that

793
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 1: people have to keep in mind that they're amateurs and

794
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 1: them for there are other real people on the other

795
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,320
Speaker 1: sides of these questions, and you could do a ton

796
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 1: of damage digging through someone's personal life, trying or blowing

797
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 1: them up like they did couch Guy, or you know,

798
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:31,359
Speaker 1: like basically trying to stick. Eventually, the only goal is like, oh, well,

799
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 1: we'll send the police in because we don't have any

800
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 1: power in this situation and you've never met these people

801
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:38,319
Speaker 1: and you're not an actual detective. If you don't really

802
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 1: know what you're doing, it's very messy. Yeah, there are

803
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 1: these examples that kind of pick up speed, like caused

804
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 1: this trend to pick up speed, Like Gabby Petito was

805
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 1: also one. I hadn't realized this, but our producer Becca

806
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 1: New Producer shout Out New producer bec Arounds put this

807
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 1: story and was pointing out that like that was an

808
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 1: example where people were like, something's wrong here when she

809
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 1: went missing and we're like analyzing the previous videos and

810
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 1: something was wrong. But then there are examples like Sabrina Prator,

811
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:14,720
Speaker 1: who is a thirty four year old contractor and trans

812
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,959
Speaker 1: woman who went viral in November after posting a video

813
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 1: over self dancing in a basement that was mid renovation

814
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,760
Speaker 1: and people jumped on it and we're like bad vibes.

815
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:28,439
Speaker 1: There were like these transphobic comparisons to Buffalo Bill from

816
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 1: the Sounds of the Lambs, and people's started to speculate

817
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:36,879
Speaker 1: that she was a serial killer and just it got

818
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 1: very like dark and was based on nothing. The couch

819
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 1: guy thing. You know, this guy writes pretty well, either

820
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 1: because he's telling the truth or he's a master manipulator.

821
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:54,720
Speaker 1: We don't know. Yeah, I think that's probably the answer,

822
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 1: is that he was a great editor. But you know

823
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 1: they where these things just get away, like they take

824
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:02,840
Speaker 1: on a life of their own. There were people like

825
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 1: waiting outside of his room. There were people like sliding

826
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 1: notes under his door. There were oh yeah, it was

827
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 1: very scary, like yeah, like I understand the community wanting

828
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 1: to help solve like Brittany being in trouble or a

829
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:23,240
Speaker 1: murdered instagramm er, but the dude, the speculation was literally

830
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 1: he might be cheating on his girlfriend that it does

831
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:34,360
Speaker 1: not need that assistance, yeah, or comment that's not your business. Yeah,

832
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 1: take it to a group chat people talking out there,

833
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 1: like yeah, giving the internet, it's it's a wild tool.

834
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 1: We're still raining it in, We're still figuring out how

835
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 1: to use it for its its best intentions. And this

836
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 1: is this like goes back. This has long been one

837
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 1: of humanity's like biggest kind of misconceptions and like blind

838
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 1: spots when it comes to how we interact with crime.

839
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 1: Is you know, the police will disregard someone's testimony, will

840
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 1: be like, ah, she's making it up. If they're not

841
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:13,719
Speaker 1: like if they're not playing the role that they have

842
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 1: seen in movies of the victim of this crime. Like

843
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 1: I was just listening to the last podcast on the

844
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 1: Left show was like doing the Lizzie Borden murder. Is

845
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 1: that her name? Yeah, it was only nineteen wax first

846
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 1: of all, but the police, because she was so distraught,

847
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:40,320
Speaker 1: shot her up with morphine and then gave her powdered

848
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:44,839
Speaker 1: caffeine before before questioning her about it. And then we're

849
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 1: like she was so like flat, we like don't trust her,

850
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:51,439
Speaker 1: which she probably did. Do it, but like still it's

851
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:55,800
Speaker 1: like this this thing like it's happened with sexual assault victims.

852
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 1: There was a serial rapist who was getting away with

853
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 1: it for a long time because is a young woman

854
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 1: who like reported it her Even her mom was like,

855
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 1: I think she's making it up because she's not like

856
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:11,799
Speaker 1: crying enough. And then finally like the d n a

857
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:15,799
Speaker 1: proofd she wasn't making it up. But it's we we

858
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 1: just really need to like take our personal like expectations

859
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 1: out of it when it comes to like we are

860
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 1: not good at judging, like the the whole thing of

861
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 1: late instinct and like I have a like I have

862
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 1: an internal lie detector. You do not, Like you do

863
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 1: not have that. You know, the best police officers in

864
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 1: the world do not have that. The thing about you know,

865
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:39,439
Speaker 1: you can tell by where they're looking in the room,

866
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 1: like if they look up to the right, they're making

867
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:45,839
Speaker 1: it up. That is bullshit. Like every everything that we

868
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 1: claim that has ever been claimed Sherlock Holmes was not

869
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 1: a real guy or not in any of the senses

870
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 1: that you want him to be a real guy. So

871
00:53:57,120 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 1: you know, you trust your instincts, like to like you know,

872
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 1: if you're in danger, and like always be safe. But

873
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 1: when it comes to like I've caught this person or

874
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 1: I think this person is lying, like you'r do not

875
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 1: do not trust your instincts, You're you don't know ship

876
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 1: I think, yes, yeah, alright, do you want to talk

877
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:24,400
Speaker 1: erotic thrillers? I do want to. We're at an hour though, okay,

878
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:27,360
Speaker 1: where I'm so torn do what do we want to

879
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:29,359
Speaker 1: get into it? What do you guys think? I think

880
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 1: we have to Alright, well, we can keep it short.

881
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 1: We can keep it short. Yeah, okay, so listen, Ben

882
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 1: Affleck and ended to arms. They had a new movie

883
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:40,360
Speaker 1: called deep Water coming out. It was scheduled for release

884
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 1: in January, which, if you know anything about movies, do

885
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:46,399
Speaker 1: you understand immediately means it might not be so great. Yes,

886
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:49,319
Speaker 1: this may not be a movie of quality. That's where

887
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 1: we dump are bad movies January Separy, and we might

888
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 1: sprinkle one in March if we have too many movies

889
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 1: lated for the year. That's that's literally how Hollywood has

890
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:02,720
Speaker 1: worked since the dawn of the summer blockbuster. Okay. Randall's

891
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 1: on the Internet are concerned that j Lo has used

892
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 1: her her incredible powers and connections throughout the universe essentially

893
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:15,760
Speaker 1: to kill this movie because yes, Anna and Ben dated.

894
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 1: I think this is going to probably get pushed back.

895
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:22,800
Speaker 1: Maybe there are so many streaming services it will probably

896
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 1: pop up there because people are gonna want to see

897
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:28,919
Speaker 1: Ben and Anna in a movie where she might be,

898
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 1: you know, playing a crazy person. It's a psychological thriller.

899
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:37,440
Speaker 1: It's directed by a woman. It's set in like nineteen fifties.

900
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:40,759
Speaker 1: It's people will watch just to hate watch. I think

901
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:42,799
Speaker 1: you're just trying to figure out where to put it.

902
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:46,400
Speaker 1: Everyone's gonna be fine and make money. So it's about

903
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:50,799
Speaker 1: an open marriage where she doesn't like him anymore. He's like,

904
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:53,880
Speaker 1: all right, you can have as many, you know, lovers

905
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 1: as you want, and then like those lovers start ending

906
00:55:56,719 --> 00:56:00,360
Speaker 1: up dead. So I think the plot is like that

907
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 1: he might be a cold blooded cereal killer or maybe

908
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 1: you know, you might be right, but that that is

909
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:09,360
Speaker 1: the first bread that I've gotten. Like the summary, she

910
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:13,360
Speaker 1: it seems like it might be. It's okay. Rondic thrillers

911
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 1: are trying to make a comeback right now. Paul Verhoeven,

912
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:22,759
Speaker 1: who did Basic Instinct and is a pig, decide I'm

913
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 1: gonna make some movies he if you guys don't know

914
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:28,280
Speaker 1: the story, there's a famous scene in that movie where

915
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:31,840
Speaker 1: there's a famous scene where Sharon stone On crosses her legs.

916
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 1: You can see her vagina right instinct. Yes, it was

917
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 1: supposed to be a shot where it was more suggestive.

918
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 1: So she wore white panties, which would essentially allow for

919
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:45,720
Speaker 1: either a blending into the skirt or create a line

920
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 1: with the camera that's like, okay, we shouldn't we need

921
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 1: to push up a little bit. You weren't supposed to

922
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 1: see anything. She didn't know, but he was like, yo,

923
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:55,879
Speaker 1: can you please take off your underwear? Why? I don't

924
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 1: mean to He was like, take them off, It'll be fine.

925
00:56:57,520 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 1: I promised we won't show anything. She found it out

926
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 1: in the middle of a premiere, in the middle of

927
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:07,719
Speaker 1: the premier, watching a full audience, that her genitals were

928
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:13,440
Speaker 1: now going to be distributed globally. Yeah. Pick so now

929
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 1: they're saying erotic fillers are going to come back. I

930
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 1: have a lot of feelings about this. I think it

931
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 1: comes off the back of movies like Gone Girl, excellent film,

932
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 1: sort of throwing the erotic thriller on its head because

933
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:30,439
Speaker 1: one it's the woman and instead of going directly after

934
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 1: her husband. It's become more of a mystery and consuming

935
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 1: and bringing him back to her in a way that

936
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 1: is so scary and manipulative, but actually chooses to dissect

937
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 1: what it is to be in a marriage of not

938
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 1: love but kind of just being trapped. I guess I'm

939
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 1: not married. That was the sense I got from it,

940
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 1: and it said don't get married. Um, I don't. I

941
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 1: think that our autic fillers have a horrible, horrible history

942
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 1: of becoming real world spaces for sexual assault and or rape,

943
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 1: many of them which made it to the final film,

944
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 1: which is deeply disturbing. Also, I wonder if they have

945
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 1: a place if you watch a lot of older erotic thrillers,

946
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 1: particularly once from the seventies and eighties, Like, I don't

947
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:21,920
Speaker 1: know how well these translate to our modern times, to

948
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 1: this modern era. I don't know what do you think, Jack,

949
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 1: I So I think that first of all, so the

950
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 1: paulver Hoven story that you told with Sharon Stone, that

951
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 1: is sexual assault, like that is he should be in

952
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:39,800
Speaker 1: jail for that. Instead he is part of this like

953
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 1: new wave of like he's making a erotic thriller and

954
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 1: people are like this might be a new kind of

955
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 1: era of erotic thrillers. I feel I don't think that's

956
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 1: going to happen with movies made by him or the

957
00:58:55,040 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 1: guy who made Fatal Attraction is also coming back. But yeah, yeah,

958
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:06,560
Speaker 1: of course, yeah, yeah. And I do wonder if, like

959
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:11,440
Speaker 1: I think there is the common ground for erotic thrillers

960
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 1: to come back, because I do think that because of

961
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 1: like social media and porn and just like I feel

962
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 1: like there's less closeness and people are more strangers to

963
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 1: each other than ever before now, and like people are

964
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 1: more alone than ever before. I do think there's probably

965
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 1: like added anxieties around like erotic and romantic vulnerability. I

966
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 1: I think there's probably going to be movies that deal

967
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 1: with that in really provocative ways. I think they will

968
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:46,920
Speaker 1: be made by young people who have grown up in

969
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 1: the era of social media and like with those realities present.

970
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna be made by fucking Paul Verhoeven.

971
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 1: But I also think that, like some of the ideas

972
00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 1: around this being like a new wave of erotic thrillers,

973
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 1: some of these analyzes are pulling in three sixty five Days,

974
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 1: which was just I feel like, so we covered that

975
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 1: last year, Like it was the number one movie on

976
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 1: Netflix for a lot of the year. It was just

977
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 1: like soft soft porn that like people felt comfortable consuming

978
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 1: as a date night thriller because it was number one

979
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 1: on Netflix, and like, there's absolutely nothing wrong with that.

980
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:24,760
Speaker 1: But I don't feel like it's I'm going to reject

981
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 1: it because it doesn't fit into my big theory that

982
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 1: I just said. Richardson was a huge hit this year,

983
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 1: and after like episode eight, it was just them fucking

984
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 1: like yeah, but not anymore than like Game of Thrones,

985
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:45,959
Speaker 1: I think, and and and not with the with less

986
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:49,720
Speaker 1: of the like violence and chance for murder then like

987
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:53,040
Speaker 1: your typical erotic thriller has. Yeah, there's definitely a hole

988
01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:56,360
Speaker 1: to be filled, like with true crime like coming into

989
01:00:56,360 --> 01:01:01,440
Speaker 1: the main z guys nowadays, like murders only in the

990
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:04,440
Speaker 1: building or murder in the building, which the only murders

991
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:06,440
Speaker 1: in the building. Yeah, that's great. I love that. And

992
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:11,160
Speaker 1: then you got bin Game of Thrones and all these

993
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:16,120
Speaker 1: sexy type of films coming in. It makes sense that

994
01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 1: people want to combine them. But like you said, Jack,

995
01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:25,960
Speaker 1: just finding the right voice, Like white Men, they got

996
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:28,040
Speaker 1: a point of view, and we've clearly seen it for

997
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:35,120
Speaker 1: most of movie history. Yeah, hey, white guys, let's maybe

998
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:39,480
Speaker 1: sit this one out. Let's see what other people serious.

999
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:44,040
Speaker 1: That's great, Just keep on goals if you're seriousness for everyone. Yeah,

1000
01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 1: we're family, we have Bond. Let's get let's go with

1001
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 1: James Bond. Okay, anyways, it has been such a pleasure

1002
01:01:57,000 --> 01:02:00,960
Speaker 1: talking to both of you about all of this. Am

1003
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:04,480
Speaker 1: Where can people find you and follow you and subscribe

1004
01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:09,840
Speaker 1: and join your pa. I'm mainly on Instagram, Twitter at

1005
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:14,200
Speaker 1: the double Underscore Red Dot. I'm also on Reddit and Facebook.

1006
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 1: My Patreon it's at the Double Underscore Red Dot. So

1007
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:23,000
Speaker 1: I post pretty much every day, either an animation or

1008
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:29,400
Speaker 1: a comic and yeah I'm fun. Yeah I'm fun. And

1009
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:32,400
Speaker 1: is there a tweet or some work of social media

1010
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 1: you've been enjoying. I had a tweet, but like, given

1011
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:39,320
Speaker 1: how heavy we've been talking, it was kind of depressive.

1012
01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 1: So I just I would rather promote some comic artists,

1013
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:48,560
Speaker 1: like one of my favorites, Yeah, Alex Smith draws. He's

1014
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:50,720
Speaker 1: like the only comics like I even have a tweet

1015
01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:53,840
Speaker 1: about that. He's the only comic artist that I actively

1016
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 1: quote almost every day because he has like these animations

1017
01:02:57,240 --> 01:03:00,160
Speaker 1: and parodies of like a Lord of the Rings that

1018
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:03,440
Speaker 1: just it had me crying the first time I saw it.

1019
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:08,360
Speaker 1: Great guy, great art. Oh, Martin Roser, Hot paper Comics,

1020
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:13,000
Speaker 1: He's always great, very positive, great stuff. Just anyone on

1021
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:15,720
Speaker 1: my Twitter that I follow, Comic Voice, They're amazing and

1022
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:20,240
Speaker 1: they're happy. So just go cheer yourself up that way. Yeah,

1023
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 1: I'm like this show and more Healthy outlet, and you know,

1024
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:29,640
Speaker 1: before you go check any of them out, go check

1025
01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 1: out the double underscore red Dot. All right, Joel, where

1026
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:35,720
Speaker 1: can people find you and follow you? And Joel Money

1027
01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:38,240
Speaker 1: you can find me all over the internet. Actual money

1028
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:40,480
Speaker 1: gets to J L E L E M O N

1029
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:43,680
Speaker 1: I Q you eat. I have two very quick tweets.

1030
01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:47,280
Speaker 1: The first one is at Rose Don't Move. It's the

1031
01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:49,520
Speaker 1: picture of the sex of the City ladies and it

1032
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:51,760
Speaker 1: says the fourth character is New York but it's New

1033
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:56,280
Speaker 1: York Pollard. It tells my heart with so much joy.

1034
01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:59,520
Speaker 1: It's so silly, but I love it. The other one

1035
01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:02,479
Speaker 1: is the quest to fans, if you can find this pin,

1036
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:05,640
Speaker 1: I will, I don't know. We can negotiate on what

1037
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 1: it is you need in life. I will try to

1038
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:09,840
Speaker 1: make it happen. I'll retweet you. I will send you

1039
01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:12,600
Speaker 1: a little video. It's a little pin which I collect

1040
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 1: like an enamel pin. It's like a newspaper and it

1041
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:18,920
Speaker 1: says the Black Times and under meath it like a subheadline,

1042
01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:21,480
Speaker 1: it says I love being Black. Ship kind of dangerous,

1043
01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:26,560
Speaker 1: but it slit. I need it to happen. It's adorable

1044
01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:31,160
Speaker 1: and horrifying and funny. It's all things in one namel pin.

1045
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:33,200
Speaker 1: So if you know where to buy that, find me

1046
01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 1: on the internet and tell me about it. That's great,

1047
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:38,480
Speaker 1: all right. You can find me on Twitter at Jack

1048
01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:43,120
Speaker 1: Underscore O'Brien. One tweet that are just bringing up a

1049
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:48,320
Speaker 1: bridgetin reminded me of Anti Donohue tweeted, no, and then

1050
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:57,000
Speaker 1: it's attributed to me being challenged to a duel and

1051
01:04:57,120 --> 01:05:01,440
Speaker 1: we would have the great musical Hamilton's okay. Uh Like

1052
01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 1: that was the detail of that that. I was just like,

1053
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:07,240
Speaker 1: what the funk is this guy's problem? Like with his

1054
01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:10,080
Speaker 1: kid to his kid, He's like, all right, son, here's

1055
01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:14,880
Speaker 1: what you gotta do. You gotta yeah. I was just like, okay.

1056
01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:20,200
Speaker 1: And then Rose damn you tweeted I wonder if Carrie

1057
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:23,560
Speaker 1: wrote about the insurrection and reference to the new sex

1058
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Speaker 1: in the City. And then a friend of mine, some

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Speaker 1: guy named John which is his name on Twitter, just

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Speaker 1: gave us a sample and I watched. And as I

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Speaker 1: watched the Q and on shopman smear feces on the

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Speaker 1: walls of the Capitol. I couldn't help but wonder was

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Speaker 1: my marriage the real big lie? Stop it? And he

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Speaker 1: capitalized big so Actually, John's a very funny writer. You

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Speaker 1: can find us on Twitter at daily ze Guys were

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Speaker 1: at the Daily Sutgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook

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Speaker 1: fan page on a website, daily zi guys dot com

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Speaker 1: where we post our episodes and our foot notes. Foot

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Speaker 1: notes where we lick off to the information that we

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Speaker 1: talked about in today's episode, as well as a song

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Speaker 1: that we think you might enjoy. And today Miles is

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Speaker 1: not here, so we're gonna throw to super producer Justin Smith.

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Speaker 1: Justin tell the people what they should go listen to

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Speaker 1: right now? Okay, Well, in light of Kim being able

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Speaker 1: to move on to better, greener pastures and being able to,

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Speaker 1: you know, have the dream and say fuck you, I'm

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Speaker 1: going on to something greater, there's a song called I

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Speaker 1: Got Money Now and Jid it's gray I. My sister

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Speaker 1: Joel Monique loves this track and she plays it. It's

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Speaker 1: all the time. It's mostly like I. When I first

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Speaker 1: played it, I was like, what's going on here? Because

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Speaker 1: it starts off with a little twanging guitar, and as

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Speaker 1: a black man, I'm very suspicious of that. And then

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Speaker 1: but then this driving baseline comes in and plays off

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Speaker 1: the percussion and so well. And then the first words

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Speaker 1: are I got money now. And the hook the reframe

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Speaker 1: that it keeps coming back to you is I got

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Speaker 1: money now, bitch. And and he's telling this to someone

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Speaker 1: to you know, to put a fine point on it.

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Speaker 1: The lyricism the last per second. If you're really listening

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Speaker 1: to the punch lines, they're every line just about. It's

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Speaker 1: a funny song. It's lighthearted, even if you're down bad

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Speaker 1: right now and you don't have that much money in

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Speaker 1: your bank account. Everyone loves to fantasize. This is how

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Speaker 1: hip hop got started. The rags the Richest story. So

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Speaker 1: it's Deonte Hitchcock, D E A and T. E. Hitchcock

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Speaker 1: fingering JD. You guys will love it, um and you

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Speaker 1: can check that out in the Footnoope, all right, that's amazing.

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Speaker 1: I've looked. I just looked up the lyrics. I love

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Speaker 1: it already. Yeah. Also just a quick pickup, shout out

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Speaker 1: to row who she's got both Jack and I shouted

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Speaker 1: out her tweets. She got a new show right here

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Speaker 1: on iHeart called Like a Virgin. It is super funny.

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Speaker 1: I'm really enjoying it, so check it out. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: shout out to Justin coming strong with the great song recommendation.

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Speaker 1: All right, well, that is going to do it for us.

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Speaker 1: The Daily Zeitchheist is a production of I Heart Radio.

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Speaker 1: For more podcasts for my Heart Radio, you can visit

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Speaker 1: know wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That's gonna

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Speaker 1: do it for us this morning. But we will be

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Speaker 1: back this afternoon to tell you what it is trending

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Speaker 1: and we'll talk to you all then. Bye. B