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Speaker 2: Good morning, how are we feeling?

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Speaker 3: Good morning, guys, Good morning. Great to hear from everybody.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, Hello.

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Speaker 1: So Petros, another another walkoff win for the LA Dot

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Speaker 1: Drews last night.

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Speaker 3: Well last night, you know they didn't walk it off.

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Speaker 3: They were at home and they lost. It's hard to

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Speaker 3: walk it off on the road. What do you mean,

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Speaker 3: It's just really hard to walk it off on the road.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm saying, yeah, but they walked it off last

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Speaker 1: night last night.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it just reminds me of a question that a

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Speaker 3: reporter asked Dave Roberts.

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Speaker 4: Oh, in a few years, what's the question they.

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Speaker 3: Asked Dave Roberts because it was after like another Dodger

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Speaker 3: walk off and they were having a real exciting season.

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Speaker 3: I think this year's Dodger team is really a droit

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Speaker 3: at coming back in games that they were down, and

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Speaker 3: they almost did it two nights ago against the Mets,

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Speaker 3: who were in town with Juan Soto who's not doing

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Speaker 3: his special dance because he's bummed out in his family.

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Speaker 3: He's like Freddie Freeman when he left Atlanta. He's like

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Speaker 5: But anyway, yeah, it's.

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Speaker 2: Uh, what were we talking about?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 3: This guy asked Dave Roberts, like, Hey, how come all

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Speaker 3: your walkoffs are at home? Is there something about this

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Speaker 3: home crowd that really gets you going? That really gets

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Speaker 3: his team going? And Dave Roberts had a very nice answer,

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Speaker 3: he said, well, he's very difficult to walk it off.

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Speaker 4: On the road.

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Speaker 2: So who asked the question best, I don't remember.

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Speaker 5: It was some no, it was like a younger reporter.

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Speaker 2: So everybody was trying to be cool about it.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't like a kid though, But yeah, you can't

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Speaker 3: walk it off on the road. Dodgers are at home

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Speaker 3: and they walked it off last night against the Mets,

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Speaker 3: and show Heyo Tommy spectacular. He's still not pitching. They

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Speaker 3: have a lot of bullpen problems. They paid Tanner Scott,

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Speaker 3: They have some bullpen issues, but the Dodger problems are

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Speaker 3: first world problems. They're doing quite well, and they won

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Speaker 3: last night against the Mets. I did stay up to

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Speaker 3: watch it. Hell yeah, which is why I forgot my points.

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Speaker 3: Short term memory loss from Blackhawta from a bowl in

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Speaker 5: Well that yeah, that too.

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Speaker 3: I've aggravated a lot of old football injuries every time

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Speaker 4: Speaking of bull in the ring, Petros, how many like

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Speaker 4: when you played, how many different locker rooms did you

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Speaker 4: so you had a different coach.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: When I arrived at SCA, it was John Robinson, and

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Speaker 3: lot of the guys I played for played for Pete Carroll.

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Speaker 5: So that's kind of my story.

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Speaker 3: that was my experience. I was in kind of two

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Speaker 5: In the morning and roll like a log to you barf.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, both both of those coaching styles have

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Speaker 4: Well, so that's why I was I was asking in

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Speaker 4: how the culture plays a part. And while I say

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Speaker 4: of what the players want. We just saw Tim Thibodeau,

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Speaker 3: The Christian better looking version of Tom Thibodeau, Tim Tebodeaux.

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Speaker 4: Tim Tebadeau. Yeah, you like that. That's funny. My bad. Anyway,

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Speaker 4: It's interesting because I'm curious. I feel like when you

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Speaker 4: just like you got to impress the coaches, like you said,

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Speaker 3: When I played college football, as you know, there was

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Speaker 3: that bothers me. It really does. But it's a very

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Speaker 3: different it's a very different time in college and pro athletics.

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Speaker 3: That being said, the dynamics of a pro basketball team is.

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Speaker 2: Hard for me to understand.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we're talking about guys that have really, really

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Speaker 3: it's very difficult, I think, to be a head coach

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Speaker 3: NBA has got to be the toughest because and you know,

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Speaker 3: football is like this now too. It didn't really used

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Speaker 4: Thirty years yea, yeah, Chuck.

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Speaker 3: Knock, Bud Grant, Yeah, you know, Chuck Knowle, Marv Levy,

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Speaker 3: you know, it goes on and on. All the coaches

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Speaker 5: Unless you know.

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Speaker 3: John Harbaugh or Jim Harbaugh or somebody more celebrated like that, generally,

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Speaker 3: Tom Thibodeaux known as a great defensive coach and a

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Speaker 3: But I think it's a more a more delicate situation.

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Speaker 3: Also their owner is like a legit crazy man JB

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Speaker 3: That's the name of his sweet ass band, his blues

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Speaker 2: Around with him like he belongs on stage. So it's

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Speaker 3: But look, I mean, but you look at like Mi

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Speaker 3: it's like they'd fire Lincoln Riley if he didn't have

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Speaker 3: the money does matter, and.

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Speaker 5: Maybe not for JD in the straight shop.

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Speaker 3: But I don't know, I don't know what direction you

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Speaker 3: go in from there, Like who do you hire from there.

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Speaker 5: To to ignite the team?

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Speaker 3: Was it Thibodeaux that was really fueling their success or

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Speaker 3: was he holding them back and holding back their star players?

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Speaker 5: Obviously somebody thought that.

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Speaker 3: But a sad situation for the guy with not a

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Speaker 3: lot of hair who kind of looks like.

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Speaker 2: The penguin Petros pabegs joining us.

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Speaker 5: I've been compared to the Penguin the past to Jonas.

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Speaker 1: I don't think so. I would I would disagree with

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Speaker 3: I mean, how many times do you say that Fox

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Speaker 3: Sports Radio, Jonas?

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Speaker 5: I know I'm on the radio.

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Speaker 1: Right I am resetting it for the I know, trying

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Speaker 1: to be a broadcast professional. But it is when you

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Speaker 1: mentioned sort of what direction you go in here and

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Speaker 1: was it Tom Thibodeau's fault and all that, that's why

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Speaker 3: Was call them tis like they're friends with him. Yeah, like, oh,

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Speaker 3: you know how TIBs is. It's like, you know what, Actually, no,

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't not at all. I live on the other

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Speaker 1: Well, it's like we've never even been in Madison, Scar

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Speaker 3: And we've seen a lot of that too. I would

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Speaker 3: A great twenty twenty six recruiting class, I suppose. But

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Speaker 5: Do you know the etymology of the name Knickerbucker? No Nicks?

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Speaker 3: But the reason that came out The reason that word

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Speaker 5: A knickerbocker used to.

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Speaker 3: Be the way that a Dutch guy would dress, you know,

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Speaker 2: Now, Damn Washington Irving and all these years later, Tracy

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Speaker 3: There a matter right back, all these years later, Kylie

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Speaker 1: the questioning here. That would be not Michael McDonald, but

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Speaker 1: Mike McDonald, the head coach of the Seattle Seahawks, who

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Speaker 1: was on, you know, just having a little conversation. They're

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Speaker 1: in Seattle, they're just trying to figure out, you know,

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Speaker 1: what's going on with Sam Donald, their brand new quarterback.

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Speaker 1: He was on with Mike Salk of seven to ten

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Speaker 1: Sports in Seattle, and he was asked about, Hey, Sam

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Speaker 1: Darnold struggled a little bit here in OTAs he threw

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Speaker 1: a couple of picks. Reportedly, what are the chances that

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Speaker 1: maybe there's a change of quarterback at some point that.

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Speaker 4: Would lead to a different quarterback? You guys are crazy.

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Speaker 2: There's no way to ask the question with that sounded

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Speaker 2: like an idiot.

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Speaker 8: I respect you got to ask it, but like, there's

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Speaker 8: you guys, it's just a crazy question. There's just not

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Speaker 8: gonna like Sam's are starting quarterback. We love him, He's

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Speaker 8: doing a tremendous job.

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Speaker 4: God forbid.

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Speaker 8: You know you're you're the worst player of all time

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Speaker 8: because you made one bad throw or one bad decisions

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Speaker 8: like that is not what we're trying to build. We

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Speaker 8: want these guys to go prepare the right way and

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Speaker 8: then when I go out on the practice field, go

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Speaker 8: freaking let it rip.

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Speaker 4: And then we'll go fix it.

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Speaker 8: We'll go we got time, it's it's June third, We'll go. Okay,

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Speaker 8: they're gonna get plenty of reps. We'll get those things fixed.

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Speaker 8: I mean, Sam made it grow up, bought a lot

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Speaker 8: of great throws. Yesterday he's gashing us on third and

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Speaker 8: goal to start the start the start the day out too.

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Speaker 8: So yeah, those kind of a crazy question.

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Speaker 1: So that was the Seahawks head coach Mike McDonald talking

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Speaker 1: about the potential of Sam Donald getting benched at some point.

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Speaker 4: For jay Len Meroe.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean.

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Speaker 1: It's not like we haven't seen this happen in Seattle before,

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Speaker 1: where they gave Matt Flynn a contract, they drafted a

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Speaker 1: guy in the third round that same year, and Russell

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Speaker 1: Wilson and the rest of history. So there has been

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Speaker 1: a precedent there in Seattle. We've seen it before. And

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Speaker 1: it's not like you signed Sam Donald to this monster

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Speaker 1: contract that all of a sudden, you know, that's your

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Speaker 1: guy for the next you know, five to ten years.

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Speaker 1: They signed him to a three year deal, and I'm

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you decided to move on from

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Speaker 1: Geno Smith. I'm just trying to find out what's the

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Speaker 1: difference between Geno Smith and Sam Donald from a quarterback

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Speaker 1: play standpoint. Is there that much of a difference, because.

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Speaker 4: That was the I think they've had kind of like

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Speaker 4: kind of comparable, you know.

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Speaker 1: Starts started with the Jets. Both got their start with

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Speaker 1: the Jets. We know that goes for Jets quarterbacks.

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Speaker 4: And I was gonna say, well, it's not like it

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Speaker 4: would be the first time Sam Darnold got benched for

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Speaker 4: another quarterback, right, I mean, let's not get too carried away,

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Speaker 4: too far away from you know, what happened the years

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Speaker 4: prior to his resurgence, or or not even resurgence, just

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Speaker 4: emergence to begin with. For the first time in Minnesota

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Speaker 4: last year, there could be a lot of questions. Again,

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Speaker 4: I've said this and I'm gonna stick to it. For

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Speaker 4: Minnesota to allow Sam Darnald to leave for a player

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Speaker 4: that has not proven himself yet, that missed the season

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Speaker 4: due to an injury. To me, that's the first red flag.

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Speaker 4: That's the first thing that says to me, you gotta

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Speaker 4: be careful that this isn't fool's goal with Sam Darnold.

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Speaker 4: That's the first thing that hits me. Second thing that

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Speaker 4: hits me is again, you're talking one year's time of

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Speaker 4: true success. And by the way, if you were paying attention,

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Speaker 4: the well ran a little dry at the end of

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Speaker 4: the year. It's like the magic the magic hit midnight,

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Speaker 4: you know, the pumpkin. Uh, it turned back into a pumpkin.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't it wasn't a card anymore. The horses turned

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Speaker 4: back into wel Ward, they rats, well ward, they I

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Speaker 4: don't know what they were. But the clock struck midnight

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Speaker 4: on him, and the Cinderella story kind of came to

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Speaker 4: a very very quick.

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Speaker 1: And two most important games of the season too.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. So, I you know, I don't think that it's

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Speaker 4: beyond reproach to have the question of is it possible

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Speaker 4: that a different guy, whether it be Milroe or Locke.

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Speaker 4: I don't think that it's beyond the realm of reasoning

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Speaker 4: to think that one of those guys could start.

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Speaker 1: And also based on what we've seen, and this is

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Speaker 1: not a knock on on Sam Donald because he wasn't

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Speaker 1: a bad spot with the Jets.

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Speaker 4: Obviously, have you seen.

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Speaker 1: Have you seen Sam Donald play more like last year

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Speaker 1: in Minnesota or more like previous seasons when he was

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Speaker 1: in the Jets with the Jets or with the Carolina Panthers, Like,

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Speaker 1: what's the what have you seen more of of Sam Donald?

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Speaker 1: His early struggles or his success? And the answer would

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Speaker 1: be the early struggles because the success he had was

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Speaker 1: only one year, and to your point, it didn't even

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Speaker 1: get through the whole year because the last two games

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Speaker 1: he struggled. So the idea that he's a finished product,

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Speaker 1: that what you're getting and the better representation of Sam

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Speaker 1: Donald is based on one year last year with Kevin O'Connell,

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Speaker 1: who's made it work with it with several different quarterbacks there,

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Speaker 1: or the Sam Donald we've seen elsewhere. There's more evidence

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Speaker 1: and the body of work would indicate that it's probably

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Speaker 1: going to be maybe a little bit closer to what

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Speaker 1: he was early in his career. And if that's the

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Speaker 1: case and you have an easy out after the twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty five season where the dead cap hit isn't significant enough,

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Speaker 1: I just I don't think it's that crazy of a

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Speaker 1: question to think, hey, man, like, what are the chances

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Speaker 1: here Jalen Milroe all of a sudden starts lighting it up,

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Speaker 1: or you see some flashes of his athleticism and Seattle's struggling.

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Speaker 1: If you'r Mike McDonald, why wouldn't you consider or at

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Speaker 1: least look at you know, look at potentially you know

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Speaker 1: he can't say that now, but at least give give

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Speaker 1: the perception or look at the possibility of Jalen Milroe

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Speaker 1: as a rookie coming in and trying to produce for

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Speaker 1: the team. I don't think it's that crazy.

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Speaker 4: I don't either, And again because there's so many question

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Speaker 4: marks that surround Sam Darnold, and that's just the biggest

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Speaker 4: part of it is he's in a new market, under

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Speaker 4: a new team, under a new rule, and he has

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Speaker 4: a very very small sample size in a pretty pretty

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Speaker 4: long career. I mean, he's been out now for a

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Speaker 4: little bit now.

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Speaker 2: So.

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Speaker 4: You gotta assume. You gotta assume that it could go

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Speaker 4: either way. This is I don't even know that it's

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Speaker 4: a fifty to fifty proposition. He's had one good year now.

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Speaker 4: Maybe that's maturity, Maybe that's the system. Maybe it's a

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Speaker 4: little bit of both. I don't know. I really don't,

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Speaker 4: But what I do know is is that you have

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Speaker 4: to approach this situation of unknowns with a certain healthy

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Speaker 4: level of caution. And that's just what it comes down to.

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Speaker 4: And this to me, if I'm looking at it as

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Speaker 4: a Seahawks coach, this is an open competition. By no

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Speaker 4: means just because you had a really, really good year

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Speaker 4: last season that you just come in as the guy.

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Speaker 4: This is more so a which I don't know why

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Speaker 4: they would do what they did with Geno Smith the

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Speaker 4: way that they did. I didn't think that that was

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Speaker 4: a wise decision, and you kind of alluded to it

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Speaker 4: early on in the conversation. It's like you're going in

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Speaker 4: a different direction from a guy who has made your

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Speaker 4: team a competitive team. There's other pieces that you could

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Speaker 4: have addressed on that team to make that a better team,

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Speaker 4: and you would have been just fine. You didn't upgrade

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Speaker 4: or a quarterback position by any stretch of the imagination.

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Speaker 4: So when doing this, this is something different to me,

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Speaker 4: and I'm not certain what the different represents that you

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Speaker 4: would move Geno Smith and make a lateral movement. At best,

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Speaker 4: bring it. At best, it's a lateral move. I was

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Speaker 4: just gonna say it. At best, it feels like it's

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Speaker 4: a lateral move. Geno Smith played better football than Sam

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Speaker 4: Donald in his career, Like, we've seen more of it,

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Speaker 4: and we've seen more of it in Seattle, but in Seattle,

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Speaker 4: and that's what's important. The success was in Seattle. So

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Speaker 4: you took that and you sent that away to replace

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Speaker 4: it with more question marks. It's like kind of it's

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Speaker 4: not like you brought in a guy that you know

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Speaker 4: is going to change and shift the trajectory of this

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Speaker 4: this franchise. Like would you confidently say, yep, we brought

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Speaker 4: in Sam Donald slash franchise quarterback. Bless you, franchise quarterback? Right?

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Speaker 4: Is that what you Is that what we would say here? No?

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Speaker 2: No, yeah, I just so it.

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Speaker 4: No shade to Sam Darnold, Like God, bless you. You've

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Speaker 4: You've done. You've done what fe are able to do,

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Speaker 4: which is climb out of a deep ass whole of

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Speaker 4: getting labeled as a bust and as a backup, and

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Speaker 4: you were now due to whatever the circumstances that created

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Speaker 4: the opportunity. May have been injury, maybe you just played well.

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Speaker 4: Maybe it was you know, O'Connell's offensive scheme fit you well,

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Speaker 4: whatever it was, you were able to put together enough

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Speaker 4: successful games and outings where it led to you being

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Speaker 4: in the situation that you're in now. So God bless

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Speaker 4: on that, but that doesn't that doesn't absolve you of

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Speaker 4: the years that you've had to deal with prior to

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Speaker 4: getting to the Minnesota Vikings and having the year you

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Speaker 4: just had.

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Speaker 2: Who you guys got the in the Stanley Cup?

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Speaker 4: Edmonton screw pep.

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Speaker 2: Knocks locks.

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Speaker 9: College World Series getting underway. Texas versus Texas Tech Little

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Speaker 9: Texas on Texas Action. Uh ESPN five o'clock today, eight

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Speaker 9: pm Eastern. If you're looking for some world series, actually, yeah,

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Speaker 9: no Oklahoma, No, No.

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Speaker 2: Five in a row for Oklahoma.

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Speaker 1: I thought this was Lee's Leftovers this you're not watching

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Speaker 1: any of this stuff, though it was something I might watch.

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Speaker 9: How about Stick on Apple TV Plus. Owen Wilson, former golfer.

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Speaker 4: Loses his wife, loses his job.

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Speaker 2: He mentors a team golf prodigy.

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Speaker 4: Oh god, that's how brutal.

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Speaker 2: Yeah you got?

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Speaker 9: How about this Power Moves with Shaquille O'Neil, him and

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Speaker 9: him and Allen Iverson.

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Speaker 2: That looks good. Actually, I'm gonna check this out.

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Speaker 9: They try on today, that comes out today, drops on

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Speaker 9: Netflix today. They try and take control of Reebok basketball.

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Speaker 4: Well they have taken me patrol over Reebok.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they try to revive it. How about that Revive

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Speaker 2: rebunk basketball.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Shack took it over. I feel like Shaq acquired

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Speaker 4: it or something something like that, like and then brought

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Speaker 4: Ai in, as you know, because obviously Ai may Rebuk Relevy. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: so in the basketball.

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Speaker 1: Because he they gave him a monster deal and didn't

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Speaker 1: he It was like, didn't Ai have some something in

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Speaker 1: his deal where he was going to get like a

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Speaker 1: lifetime for his life.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but I mean you got to have money for

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Speaker 4: it to be a lifetime deal, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 4: Like Rebox started taking it on the chin a little bit,

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Speaker 4: you know, now Shack, you know, and Shaq was a

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Speaker 4: rebod guy originally too. People may not remember that before

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Speaker 4: he went to his own shoe, you know, doing the

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Speaker 4: Shack shoe, Shaq was with Rebox.

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Speaker 2: So I mean did they bring d Brown in as

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Speaker 2: well too?

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Speaker 4: For the Reebok pump? I mean the miss some of

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Speaker 4: the most iconic sneakers that pump. I know. I had

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Speaker 4: some a white pier that had a little green in them,

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Speaker 4: a little black had the orange basketball. She used to

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Speaker 4: pump them up. I wore them to Kenny Wood kenny

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Speaker 4: Wood Park for our picnic match and outfit. Yeah, Kenny

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Speaker 4: kenny Wood, not Kate Wood. Don't call it k Wood,

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Speaker 4: It's Kenny Wood. I don't even know if kenny Wood

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Speaker 4: is even still open, but it was a fun place

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Speaker 4: to go to one night I was growing up.

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Speaker 1: They still sell Rebock pumps, lee, let me check. Let's

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Speaker 1: uh get a little price check on that. What do

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Speaker 1: you think of a pair of rebox pumps?

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Speaker 4: Goes for right now?

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Speaker 7: LaVar?

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Speaker 4: If youah to guess, uh, twenty dollars?

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Speaker 2: All right, Gona, I'm gonna go. Uh, that's that's insulting.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go nineteen ninety nine.

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Speaker 4: I'm sing a hundred bucks.

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Speaker 1: Damn, one hundred bucks for some pumps.

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Speaker 2: Sh shoes are expensive man shoes, sneak.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but not shoes that nobody look for. Shack of

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Speaker 4: iron right, Dean Brown's is one fifty out here. I

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Speaker 4: might have to grab me up here. That's such hard

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Speaker 4: looking leather, though I had my toes. Can't handle that,

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Speaker 4: you know.

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