1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: What's up everybody, DJ and Bucky. Yes, that's right, it's 3 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: DJ and Bucky finally reunited and it it does feel 4 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 1: so good. Buck. How you doing? But man, I am good. 5 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: It has been Uh. I guess both of us have 6 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 1: been kind of splitting vacations over the past months and 7 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 1: just the first time we've been together since but right 8 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 1: after the draft, right, I know. Man, it's nice to 9 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: be back with you here, and we've got plenty to 10 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: talk about. On today's show. We've got one of your 11 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: former bosses, somebody that coach you as well as a 12 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: co worker on the show today. I think people might 13 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: have heard of him. Yeah, Mike omer enjoins the show, 14 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 1: so we're talking to him about all things quarterback and 15 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 1: team building. We also we look at five offensive stocks 16 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 1: that you and I are buying, and then we're awing 17 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: some fun stuff like if while receivers were a basketball team, 18 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: who would be the best starting five in the league. 19 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: So we talked about all this stuff coming up. I 20 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: love that something that we've kicked around uh on the 21 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: show before about building a basketball team, and now you 22 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: actually put it the paper and rank them one through five. 23 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: So we'll go through and and have a fun discussion there. 24 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 1: But before we get to all those topics, Buck, I 25 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:15,559 Speaker 1: do have to ask you, UH to fill us in 26 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:18,279 Speaker 1: on what you learned on your trip north of the border. 27 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: Bucky is always trying to learn, always trying to grow 28 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,119 Speaker 1: in the game of football, and the United States couldn't 29 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: contain him. He had to go outside the United States 30 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: this time. Tell us about your trip. Yeah, So I 31 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: had an opportunity to do an internship with the UH 32 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: Hamilton Tiger Cats of the CFL, and I would like 33 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 1: to think it's going to extend beyond it in terms 34 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 1: of being able to go up there and just kind 35 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: of see how they do things. And I think it's 36 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 1: obviously important to stretch yourself, um as a football guy, 37 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: not only as a scale but as someone that just 38 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: loves the game to just kind of see it. And 39 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:49,559 Speaker 1: D'm be honest with you, I was completely blown away. 40 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: But what I was able to see up in the CFL, 41 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: it is a completely different game than the NFL, far 42 00:01:56,400 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: more dynamic in terms of all the movement pre snap shifting, 43 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: the waggle, which is the the motion that receivers use 44 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: when they back up and come to the line, uh 45 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: to swoop when they go from side to side. It 46 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: is a lot of stuff that is going on. In 47 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: the first day that I'm there, I'm like what am 48 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:17,679 Speaker 1: I watching? Like what is this? Because all of the 49 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 1: eligible guys can motion at the same time, and so 50 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: it just kind of changes the way that you look 51 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 1: at offensive football. But more importantly, it changes the way 52 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: that you look at defensive football. And then defensively real creative, 53 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: very aggressive. You only get three downs, which really means 54 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: you only have two downs to really make plays on offense. 55 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: So everything in that league is about creating negative plays, 56 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: high pressure, high reward. You're trying to get people in 57 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 1: second and long to force them off the field, and 58 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 1: so that means you really have to be creative. You've 59 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: got to be bold and aggressive. And I called some 60 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,239 Speaker 1: of my NFL coaching buddies like, hey, man, I don't 61 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: know how much you know about this league, but some 62 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: of the stuff that they do you I think you 63 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: really could learn from in terms of the combination coverage, um, 64 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: the way that they really keep your eyes moving and 65 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,639 Speaker 1: guessing and shifting, and some of the innovation that we've 66 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: seen from the kN City Chiefs, uh, this guy Go Bears. 67 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: It has some CFO and a REATA League influences because 68 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: the constant movement makes defenses communicate and I think you 69 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: really can gain a significant advantage if you're one of 70 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: those teams just very dynamic and creative in the way 71 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 1: that you use your motions and shifts. I'm glad that 72 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: you mentioned that because my two takeaway just listen to 73 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: you talk about it a word. I feel like we 74 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: were the first ones to use it, but maybe we weren't. 75 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: But I we always talk on the show about offenses 76 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: giving you I candy, right, look it over here, look 77 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: at everything's going on over here, and then boom, we're 78 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: going over there, and it's just distracting a defense. And 79 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: then the other thing, Um, the most underrated aspect of 80 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: great defenses, and particularly the secondary is a communication. And 81 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: I would have to believe with all the motions and 82 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: shifts in different movement that you in Canada, that that 83 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: would be stressed more than anything else. You've got to 84 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: be able to communicate. Yeah, you have to be able 85 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: to communicate. The communication was ideal and being able to 86 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: coach when I went up there, I was coaching special 87 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: teams and working with the defensive backs, and uh, from 88 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 1: the defensive backstandpoint, they really play a lot of man coverage. 89 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: And it's crazy because it's boundary and field and like 90 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: much like the college game, the hashes me and everything, 91 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 1: and a lot of times you set your front either 92 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 1: to the field, you set it to the short side. Uh, 93 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: much like college. You take your best corner and he 94 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: is your boundary corner. He plays it to the short 95 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 1: side because the boundary corner gets all the man coverage. 96 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 1: So I don't remember if you know uh, Devin bro 97 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: they played for the New Orleans Saints for a long time. Well, 98 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: he is their version of the lockdown corner. He is 99 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: everything that you want to see. He's big, he's physical, 100 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 1: he's long, does a great job of choking guys out 101 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:55,919 Speaker 1: at the line of scrimmers. So he always would go 102 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: to the boundary and other guys would go to the field. 103 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: And what they do is, um they'll play man coverage 104 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 1: into the boundary and play a zone to the field. 105 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 1: But the first time that I've ever seen this, I 106 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: saw them play man coverage to the field and zone 107 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: into the boundary and anyone who is really closely followed football. 108 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 1: You normally don't see it that way, but what it 109 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: does is it presents a different presentation to the quarterback. 110 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: And so when you kind of flip the script on 111 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 1: the quarterback a little bit and you combine it with 112 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,919 Speaker 1: high pressure, man, it makes them pause for a second. 113 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 1: And when you bring the pressure, you knock out the quarterback. 114 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 1: And so everything is about creating negative plays. Turnovers, sacks, 115 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:40,919 Speaker 1: all those things are critical and so it was great 116 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: to watch and it really kind of changed the way 117 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: that I thought about football in terms of being a 118 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: little more aggressive on both sides of the ball. Yeah. 119 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 1: I think there was an article recently posted unfortunately can't 120 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: remember who wrote it, but about the arena league connection 121 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: at Naggy and a lot of these guys man the 122 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 1: floor played indoor football. Yeah, exactly, DJ so UM. I 123 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: think it was maybe Connor or wrote it. It It was 124 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 1: might have been an MMQB or Sports Illustrated one of those. 125 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: But I do believe that we're at a time now 126 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: where UM guys don't have the ego where they're not 127 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: afraid to steal from other leagues. They're not as afraid 128 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: to steal ideas from the lower ranks, and I think 129 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 1: because of that we have seen more fun um kind 130 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: of integrate into the National Football League. And we talked 131 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 1: about the Bears and the Bears being able to shift three, 132 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: four or five times before they snapped the ball, and 133 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: we've seen Andy Reid do similar things. I think the 134 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 1: more that you're willing to kind of open your eyes 135 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: and take in some of the stuff that is really 136 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: happening successfully in college and in other leagues, the more 137 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 1: dynamic and explosive you can make your offense. I think 138 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 1: it's fascinating and good on you for continuing to learn 139 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: and to grow and and uh really checking out a 140 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: new league. What a great experience for you. And it 141 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: sounds like hopefully relationship that will continue on as we 142 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: as we move forward. Now getting to your your past catchers, 143 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: Oh go ahead, you willing now? I would say this 144 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: because it was a lot of conversations. So while I 145 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 1: was there, it wasn't just like watching what happened on 146 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: the field. I had great conversations inside. And I will 147 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: say Sean Burke and some of the guys that work 148 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: in the front office for the Tiger casts were really 149 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: fascinated by your background. My background in terms of like 150 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: how we did it and so, and talking to those 151 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: guys because it is a very different league and the 152 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: way that they build their teams, Um, it's a little 153 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: different than the way that we kind of had the 154 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: experience in the National Football League. They asked a lot 155 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: of questions and they you know, your name was was 156 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: hot because the jet thing that was going on and 157 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: and and will go and other stuff. So we're having 158 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: these conversations. But ly, I think the fascinating thing, um, 159 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: they really listened to team building and how we've talked 160 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: about constructing and building teams. And even though it doesn't 161 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: necessarily apply to the way they build their teams, I 162 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: do believe that everyone who was associated with teams, being 163 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: in football, baseball, basketball, or whatever, I do believe we 164 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: can learn from one of other. And I think the 165 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: thing that I came away with from my experience up 166 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: there is that you can always learn from somebody else, 167 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 1: you can always ask those questions, and that even as 168 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: a scout, um, you should always continue to be inquisitive. 169 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: And so I kind of want to tip my hat 170 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: to you, because they were very inquisitive about some of 171 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: the theories and things that have been kind of talked 172 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: about and discussed on the podcast, and I was really 173 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: surprised that, I guess our listenership, our viewership has expanded 174 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: beyond the borders. That's awesome, man. I get pumped up 175 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: every time we go to you know, Senior Bowl combine 176 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: and you run into you know, some guys you know 177 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 1: in the league and and other coaches and scouts that 178 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 1: you you don't even have a relationship with and say, hey, man, 179 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 1: we love listen to the podcast, and um, that's what 180 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: we want to do. We want to have some smart 181 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,559 Speaker 1: conversation on here. Gets kind of our little lab kick 182 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: around some theories, bounce ideas off one another, and it's 183 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: it's neat to find out that not only people in 184 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: the in the National Football League and a lot of 185 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: the people that run recruiting and colleges are plugged into 186 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: the program. And now you're hearing even other league's overall. 187 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: It's very cool. I love that. I love that feedback there. 188 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: Uh buck these wide receivers. Um, I've got a couple 189 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 1: of questions for you, but I want you to rattle 190 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 1: these off for uce here one to five and explain 191 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,199 Speaker 1: again what we're talking about about a basketball team of 192 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: starting five. So it's funny you and I talked about this. 193 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,839 Speaker 1: I mean we've talked about it repeatedly on the podcast. 194 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: How if you're building a team and you're building a 195 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 1: wide receiver corps that you want guys that can play uh, 196 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: different roles in different responsibility. So in the basketball team, 197 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: you have a point guard who is the distributor. The 198 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 1: shooting guard is a guy that can go get buckets. 199 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: The small forward in the NBA, now it's kind of 200 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 1: like a three and D guy. He can hit the 201 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: long range three, but he can play defense. Do you 202 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 1: need a post presence at power forward and then maybe 203 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 1: a rent protector at center. Well, in football, if you 204 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: think about your wide receiver corps, you need someone who 205 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: is your go to guy, your guy that can get 206 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: buck because he's your number one receiver. And then you 207 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,199 Speaker 1: need a guy that can stretch the defense. That's kind 208 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: of like your three D D guy. So we're thinking 209 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: about a speaster, a guy that is your vertical threat. 210 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: You also need a chain mover, so one that maybe 211 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: can make things happen, can kind of find a way 212 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: to create garbage opportunities. And then we talked about in 213 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: the red zone, having a post up guy be at 214 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: a tight end somewhere the inside the twenty you can 215 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: throw the ball up to and they can put it in. 216 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: And so I took the Golden State Warriors and some 217 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: of the NBA teams that have been successful in the playoffs, 218 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 1: and I tried to kind of match them with the 219 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: teams that we see in the league. And so if 220 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: you think about counting down from five to one, the 221 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 1: way I saw it, the l A Charges at five 222 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,679 Speaker 1: with Mike Williams and Keenan Allen, I kind of liken 223 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 1: them to like the Portland Trailblazers and stuff that they 224 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 1: are able to do. The l A Rams, who are 225 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: a little more systematic with Brandon Cooks and Cooper Cup 226 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: and Robert Woods, may not have a true number one receiver, 227 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: but they kind of play like the Utah Jazz where 228 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: the system creates opportunities for them to get open. You 229 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 1: then look at the Philadelphia Eagles, and you can make 230 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: the argument that the Philadelphia Eagles could be on top 231 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: because you have Aushan Jeffrey, you got the two big 232 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: tight ends and got it and ERTs. You have de 233 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: Sean Jackson coming over. Uh you have Nelson Aghila Steel 234 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: playing in the slot. They kind of remind me of 235 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: their hometown team, the Philadelphia Sixes. In terms of Whiteside 236 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: ar Sega Whiteside, who was a basketball player like he 237 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: has that legacy with his mom and dad both being 238 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:18,679 Speaker 1: able to play uh professionally. You have the Falcons who 239 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:20,959 Speaker 1: have Julio Jones and then they have a cast of 240 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,719 Speaker 1: characters around them kind of reminded me of the Milwaukee 241 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: Bucks with him being honest. And then you have the 242 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns, who really reminded me of the Golden State 243 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: Warriors in terms of the Splash Brothers, Jarvis Landry Odell 244 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,839 Speaker 1: Beckham Jr. You have David and Joeku who can play 245 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: the Draymond Green role, and then you have guys that 246 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: can fill in the callaways, the Higgins. I just liked 247 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: all five of these teams and I think they're very, 248 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 1: very dangerous. And the one team that I kind of 249 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: kept out of it the Kansas City Chiefs because of 250 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: the aren't sudden. That's my question with Tyreek Hill. I 251 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: didn't know if Tyreek Hill is gonna be available. If 252 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 1: he is available, then they certainly deserve to be in 253 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: the conversation, But I just don't know if he's gonna 254 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: be around. Yeah, I was trying to look at this, Okay, 255 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 1: if I'm if I'm on the outside looking at this list, 256 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 1: who who do I think belongs in the conversation. Now 257 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: you can debate whether or not they're in the top 258 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,439 Speaker 1: five mix, But Kansas City, you know, you explained it 259 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: very well. They're why they're not in there. The other one, 260 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: I would say, just in terms of a basketball team 261 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:22,439 Speaker 1: and stylistically, um, who's an NBA team with two kind 262 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 1: of maybe smaller guards that are really really active and 263 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 1: and good good players, Because I was thinking of Minnesota 264 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: when you've got Feeling and Digs and then you also 265 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: have the two tight ends now with Rudolph and IRV Smith, 266 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 1: that's not a bad force him they can throw at you. No, 267 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: they definitely could be in the conversation. You know, the 268 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 1: thing that is tough and and I was trying to 269 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:45,319 Speaker 1: be very very cautious about Ricky expectations because we hadn't 270 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: seen them play out there one team that I was like, man, 271 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 1: I want to put them in there because I love Feeling, 272 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 1: I love Diggs, and I think about those guys being 273 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: able to kind of dominate and kind of get it done. 274 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 1: But then without IRV Smith, without seeing him, I just 275 00:12:57,840 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: don't know the role that they have for him. But look, 276 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 1: it's a good a conversation with them, and also the 277 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers with Mike Evans and some of the 278 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: other young guys that they have on their squad. And 279 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: they got some tight ends there too with O. J. Howard, 280 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: Cameron brad um Um. That's a that's a that's another 281 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: one that's interesting. But I think I can't argue with 282 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: the with the teams you've got up here in the 283 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: top five, Buck, it's a it's a really good group. 284 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: Anything else you want to add on, that's before we 285 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 1: get to your buddy. No, it was a lot of fun, 286 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 1: and I think, man, the floor is all the way 287 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 1: on it. When he talks about trying to build the 288 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers and trying to figure out the roles 289 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 1: and responsibilities of each of his players. We'll see if 290 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: he's able to get it done. Even though he popped 291 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 1: as a kill, he's trying to play basketball, much like 292 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: you did a couple of years ago. I know, Matt 293 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: la fleur Man, I felt your pain buddy, although he 294 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 1: was out there, I don't think he had the surgery 295 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: yet because he had no crutches, just in the walking boot. 296 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: I catven playing like a softball game I was, which 297 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: is crazy. It's a no go from any buddy. Uh 298 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,079 Speaker 1: all right, Well this is a smooth transition because you're 299 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 1: just talking about the Green Bay Backers head coach, and 300 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 1: that leads us to our conversation with the former Green 301 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: Bay Packers head coach DJ. I'm always excited when I 302 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,319 Speaker 1: get to bring on one of my former head coaches, 303 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,679 Speaker 1: someone that are not only played for, but I had 304 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 1: the opportunity to work with with the Seattle Seahawks play 305 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: for him. With the Green Bay Packers, we're gonna bring 306 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: on Super Bowl winning head coach Mike Homeram coach. How 307 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 1: you doing. I'm doing great, Buck. How's it going man? 308 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 1: Everything is going well. This is I guess this is 309 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: kind of your time of year. Like we're in the summer. Uh. 310 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: If you were still coaching, we will be on the 311 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: field with O. T A. S. So let's just talk 312 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: about the process and where you would be now as 313 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: a head coach. When you think about summer workouts and O. T. 314 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: A s and the practices. What would be some of 315 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: the things that you would be trying to accomplish with 316 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: your team. Well, the first thing, Bucky, in the summer, 317 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: I take a month off. The first thing I do. 318 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 1: We finished the We finished the mini camps, and honestly, uh, 319 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: we got a lot a lot of work done in 320 00:14:56,920 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: our mini camps. I thought, you get a really good 321 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: idea of your of your new guys, your draft choices, 322 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: and how they relate to your team. There's not a 323 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: lot of physicality now. It's different. Of course, now is 324 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: really different than when I was coaching. You could do 325 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: more things without still banging around. But you've got a 326 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: really good sense of the skill guys, you know, the 327 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 1: quarterbacks if you drafted one, the receivers, the secondary, those kids, 328 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: those people. Um. Then, honestly, in all honesty, I told 329 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 1: the coaches and I tell go away, get away, you know, 330 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: because when you come back in July, I need your 331 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: fired up. I need your batteries charged up and ready 332 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: to go. Uh. And then we work really really hard 333 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: now that first couple of weeks of June before they 334 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: take off, just to get everything in place, training camp ready, uh. 335 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: And then looking forward to a great season. You know, 336 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:54,479 Speaker 1: a coach, so much has been made about quarterback development, 337 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 1: and I know being with you in Green Bay and 338 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: in Seattle, you really took fride in developing the quarterbacks 339 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: in the off season and the summer was a big 340 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: part of that. Uh. That has changed a little bit. 341 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: But what can a hey coach do to really develop 342 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: a young quarterback and even a starting quarterback over the 343 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: off season to get him ready to go at max 344 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 1: potention when he hasn'to the regular season. Well, you know, Buck, 345 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 1: you had you had to make sure that that young 346 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 1: quarterback trusted you first of all and believed that by 347 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: picking him or choosing him, excuse me, that that you 348 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 1: thought he could do the job. Now having said that, 349 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: then it was his responsibility then to work very, very hard. 350 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 1: You know. We always tried to, uh when I was coaching, 351 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: pick a quarterback. Uh in those days, we had three. 352 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 1: I always had three, not to not today a lot 353 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 1: of teams I just have to, but I had three, 354 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: and I draft one in the fifth or sixth round 355 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: perhaps and just let him learn and let him develop. 356 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 1: And you know, historically those guys, a lot of those 357 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: guys went on to be pretty good players know Matt Hasselbeck. 358 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:09,439 Speaker 1: Uh uh, you know Mark Mark Bartnell, and you know 359 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 1: in the Green Bay, no one was going to replace 360 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 1: far but I still wanted to bring in a guy 361 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: and train him and then maybe be a backup. But 362 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 1: then he went on to other teams. So it was 363 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: fun for me. I was a quarterback coach, you know, 364 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 1: I was an assistant as with the Forts, I started 365 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 1: as a quarterback coach. I played the position. It was 366 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 1: fun for me to develop those guys and see him grow. 367 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 1: And so that's what we that's you do in the offseason, 368 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 1: and that's what you did in the summer. Coach. You 369 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: did a phenomenal job getting those guys in the later rounds, 370 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 1: as you mentioned, developing them and then getting compensation for him. 371 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 1: But there's a there's a situation a little different with 372 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 1: the New York Giants right now. When you've got somebody 373 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: has accomplished as Eli Manning and then you go spend 374 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:56,479 Speaker 1: a top ten pick on a quarterback, it can be 375 00:17:56,760 --> 00:18:00,439 Speaker 1: a challenging situation. So if you're in that role, uh, 376 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:02,400 Speaker 1: you're the head coach of the New York Giants, what's 377 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 1: that conversation like after the draft, both with Eli Manning 378 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: as well as with your young rookie there and Daniel Jones. Well, 379 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 1: that's a that's an interesting situation, and I've been there 380 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 1: a little bit. You know, you draft a quarterback in 381 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 1: the first round, and what you're saying, particularly that high 382 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 1: in the first ten picks, you are saying you are 383 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 1: our quarterback in the future. You're going to be the guy. 384 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 1: Otherwise you don't pick him. I mean, it's as simple 385 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 1: as that. So having said that, then you have to 386 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: have a timetable as to when he's going to play. 387 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: I always felt that of quarterback, if you could protect 388 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 1: him and not get him beatn beating up, that he 389 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 1: learns much faster playing than watching. That was that that 390 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 1: that theory now differs from club to club. But uh, 391 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:51,360 Speaker 1: I always thought that. So then now I think what 392 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 1: Pat Shermer has done, and he's great at it. He's 393 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 1: really good with his players. Um he has He's had 394 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:01,400 Speaker 1: this talk with Eli and he I knows he lies 395 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: at the end of his career. Uh, and he'll play 396 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:07,880 Speaker 1: and as long as he's playing, well, you know, he'll 397 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 1: be the starter. As soon as you know, as soon 398 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 1: as it starts to trickle a little bit this season. 399 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:14,919 Speaker 1: If they think Jones is ready, they're gonna put him 400 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 1: in unless they've already made the decision. He's gonna watch 401 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 1: for a year. But everyone has to know that no 402 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: one can be surprised. And then you're dealing with the 403 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 1: with the public. Then you're dealing with your fans, you know, 404 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 1: and if you can withstand that, New York is a 405 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: tough place. If if Eli is not playing well and 406 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: the team is not doing well, they'll be yelling for 407 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 1: Jones and be you have to be tough to to 408 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 1: to hold on to what your plan was if it 409 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 1: is to let him watch for a year. And then 410 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 1: the organization, every owner, general manager, everyone has to be 411 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 1: with you as the coach on that decision. So they've 412 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 1: already talked about that. I'm sure, Hey, coach, I want 413 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: I want to talk to you a little bit about 414 00:19:56,160 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 1: um what we call reclamation projects. When you look at 415 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: a veteran quarterback or someone that is coming from another team, 416 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 1: may not have had success, but there's something that you're 417 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:08,119 Speaker 1: drawn to him. I remember in Seattle we brought in 418 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:10,400 Speaker 1: Ryan Leaf because Ryan Leaf was talented and we wanted 419 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 1: to see if he could play. Um, I'm here thinks 420 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 1: Blake Borders is talking about he's never been coached the 421 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 1: way he's been coached before, after dealing with Sean McVeigh. So, 422 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 1: when you take on a veteran quarterback that may have 423 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 1: struggled elsewhere, what are some of the things that you're 424 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: looking for from them that would lead to believe that, hey, 425 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 1: I can take this guy and I can rebuild and 426 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 1: repair him and help him play better. Well, you know, 427 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: I always felt this is this is my own ego talking. 428 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 1: I always felt, you just give me any of those guys, 429 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: and I'll make him better. That's what I thought. I 430 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:42,719 Speaker 1: believe that. Having said that, having said that, the player, 431 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:45,479 Speaker 1: if he comes and he's been with a certain system 432 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: for a while, and he has been with certain coaches 433 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:50,199 Speaker 1: for a while, that player really has to believe you 434 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 1: can help him, that he's not stuck in his his tracks. 435 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:55,640 Speaker 1: And this is how I did it. This is I've 436 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:59,719 Speaker 1: always done it. Look at Matt Hasselbeck would say this. 437 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,640 Speaker 1: He said it to me a few times that when 438 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 1: he came from Green Bay, I had changed some things. 439 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,640 Speaker 1: When we went to Seattle, I had and and and 440 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 1: so he was going, wait a minute, that's how you 441 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: used to do it, used to do this. I said, well, 442 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 1: I changed it, you know. He goes, why don't I? 443 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 1: You know, I like this. But you know, Matt, he 444 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 1: was a little stubborn. He goes, I like the old way. 445 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 1: I said, well, you know what, get used to it, 446 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 1: because this is how we're doing it, you know. And 447 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 1: and so the player has to be willing to change 448 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: with you. And and it's an interesting thing. You know, 449 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 1: both Matt and Farv and Steve Young at one point 450 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,959 Speaker 1: came up to me after being with me again for 451 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 1: for a year or two and just say they'd sit 452 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,199 Speaker 1: down and next to me on that airplane, Bucky. You know, 453 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:48,919 Speaker 1: no one wanted to sit in that seat next to me. 454 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: They didn't want to do that. And they'd say, you 455 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 1: know what, I get it. I get it. I said, 456 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: it's finally, And I said, didn't you think I was 457 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 1: trying to help you the old time? You know? And 458 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 1: so but when they get it, that's what they have 459 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 1: to do. They have to buy in and believe you're 460 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: you're trying to get the best out of them. Coach, 461 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,880 Speaker 1: we use the word coaching tree a lot when we're 462 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 1: talking about the game of football, and I just think 463 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,439 Speaker 1: with you. It's it's fascinating because, uh, you might have 464 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 1: the most branches from your tree. I mean, I think 465 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: you can play that game, that Kevin Bacon game where 466 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,160 Speaker 1: you can do six degrees of separation and you can 467 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,880 Speaker 1: get to Kevin Bacon with anybody in Hollywood. I think 468 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:29,479 Speaker 1: we might be able to do the same game with 469 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 1: you connecting all these players back to your tree. But 470 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,919 Speaker 1: when you're when you're on a staff and you're the 471 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,400 Speaker 1: hot guy in the league and you're having that constant 472 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:42,159 Speaker 1: turnover people plucking your assistance, how challenging is it in 473 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: that in that role that you were in to be 474 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 1: able to refill it and not have any drop off. 475 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 1: You know, it's challenging. You bring up a very good point. 476 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 1: And I remember, you know, the guy when I came 477 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:56,199 Speaker 1: into the league, the older coaches that were around, you know, 478 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: did a great thing with me. They really reached out 479 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,199 Speaker 1: at times, and we're mentors to me, even though we 480 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:04,719 Speaker 1: were competitors. And I remember Bill Parcels we were standing 481 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,880 Speaker 1: after we won the Super Bowl, we were standing at midfield. 482 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,160 Speaker 1: We were playing a game the next year and he goes, 483 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:14,640 Speaker 1: you know, congratulations because you know I beat his team 484 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 1: and he goes, now it's going to get hard. I said, 485 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 1: what do you mean. He goes, well, you're going to 486 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 1: get players that that want to leave or want more money. 487 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,880 Speaker 1: That's the one thing, because now they're Super Bowl champions, 488 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: and you're gonna get coaches that have opportunities and we'll 489 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: leave and you have to fill your staff. So it 490 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 1: is a huge challenge. UM I always looked for. I 491 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 1: thought I was pretty consistent on the type of coach 492 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 1: I wanted. I wanted teachers, guys, you know, I wanted guys. 493 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: I didn't necessarily want yellers. I wanted teachers and guys 494 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 1: who could communicate because I always said, you know, it's 495 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,959 Speaker 1: not it's not how smart you are, it's what you 496 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: can convey to the player to get him to do 497 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: those things that you need. And so I had a 498 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: pretty simple formula. And uh, I was fortunate enough to 499 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,120 Speaker 1: have great young guys and I always tried to help him, 500 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 1: you know, get get other jobs. But it was challenging, 501 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 1: you know, coach. One of the guys that emerged off 502 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 1: the tree that I don't want to say it was 503 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 1: a surprise, but Andy Reid. Andy Reid went from being 504 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,640 Speaker 1: a tight end coach or a quarterback coach, and then 505 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: he was a head coach. Before he was a coordinator. 506 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 1: But now when we look at Andy and he's one 507 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,400 Speaker 1: of the offensive innovators in the league, did you see 508 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 1: any of this when he was in Green Bay with us? 509 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,399 Speaker 1: Did you see any of this innovation coming that you 510 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 1: would think that he would be the guy that kind 511 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 1: of blazes a new path twenty years from when we 512 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 1: were together. Well, you know what, I saw it before that, 513 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 1: Bucky actually, because he was when I was at b 514 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: y U coaching uh, Steve Young and Robbie bosco they 515 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 1: and he was I was in charge of the gas 516 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 1: and the graduate assistant coaches and and he was was 517 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 1: one of my g a's And so it didn't it 518 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 1: wasn't long at all before I realized, Man, this guy 519 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 1: is special. I mean he really is special. And I 520 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 1: used to say, if I ever get a chance to 521 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 1: be a head coach, you know, I'm going to phone you. 522 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 1: And he goes, yeah, sure, I said, no I am, 523 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 1: And so unfortunately it happened, and I saw from it 524 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 1: early on how he was willing to not only he 525 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 1: was a great coach, you know, communicator, but he also 526 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 1: was willing to accept new ideas. And when I moved 527 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,639 Speaker 1: him from a line coach to coach tight ends, he 528 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 1: was a line coach all the way. You know, he's alignment. 529 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 1: He was a line coach. I said, I'm gonna movie 530 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: his tight ends and he goes, but I only have 531 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 1: three guys and a coach. I only have two guys 532 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: I'm used to coach in line, you know. And I said, well, yeah, 533 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 1: but this way, you're gonna learn the passing game. As 534 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 1: a tight end coach, You're gonna learn the passing game 535 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 1: and down the road it's going to help. And he 536 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:47,160 Speaker 1: was willing to do that. And uh, it doesn't surprise 537 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 1: me at all. Guys, what he's doing. And he's like 538 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 1: the sun I never had that. We've been together a 539 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 1: long time and I'm very very happy for you know, coach, 540 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 1: you did a great job not only with Brett Farve 541 00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 1: leading into three m vps, a super Bowl title and 542 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:03,199 Speaker 1: have another Super Bowl appearance, but so many other quarterbacks 543 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 1: that you touch and then the great coaching tree. Thanks 544 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: so much for sharing a little knowledge with us on 545 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 1: the Move the Sticks podcast. Hey, guys, I appreciated very much. Steak, 546 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 1: you have a good summer. Man, it is always a 547 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,640 Speaker 1: great time when I get to a chance to catch 548 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,879 Speaker 1: up with coach Holgren, because, look, man, I feel blessed 549 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 1: to have been around a guy that was not only 550 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 1: a great coach wh understood how to do the team 551 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,640 Speaker 1: building part of it, but watching him work with quarterbacks. Man, 552 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 1: you should see him work. He has done a great 553 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 1: job throughout the years of developing young quarterbacks with different 554 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 1: skill sets. And so for us to be able to 555 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 1: pick his brain, I mean it was a blessing because 556 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 1: we were able to give the viewers a little inside 557 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 1: look and what one of the top quarterback gurus thinks 558 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 1: about the quarterback position. You know, it's interesting when you 559 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 1: look back on his legacy. Buck I don't know that 560 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,919 Speaker 1: his name comes up enough when we're talking about the 561 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:51,919 Speaker 1: great coaches in the history of the league, and you 562 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 1: can make a strong case. I mean, gosh, he had 563 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,159 Speaker 1: the one Super Bowl, should have had three. I mean 564 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,439 Speaker 1: when you look at it, I mean the upset with 565 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,439 Speaker 1: the bron Goes, they were the better I thought they 566 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 1: were the better team that entire year day. But it 567 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 1: is what it is. And then you look at that 568 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 1: look it's as Seahawk fans what they think of the 569 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 1: officiating in the game against Pittsburgh, and I'll just leave 570 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 1: it there. I'm not gonna go any further than that 571 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 1: because the Steeler Steeler Nation will come after me. But 572 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: a man who was very close to having three Super 573 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 1: Bowls to his credit as a head coach, not to 574 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 1: mention what he did uh in San Francisco is as 575 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 1: a coaching coordinator there and uh and to have donated 576 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 1: at Green Bay and then to get Seattle up and running. 577 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 1: I mean it was really a phenomenal career. Yeah, phenomenal 578 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,919 Speaker 1: career for coach Hongren for sure. Now, Uh, there are 579 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:40,640 Speaker 1: a couple of things that I would take away from 580 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:44,639 Speaker 1: the coach Hongren experience. UM. Coach Mike was a believer 581 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 1: in system over player. UM when it came to positions 582 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,919 Speaker 1: outside of the quarterback. He really believed that the system 583 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 1: could create opportunities, uh for those on the outside. And 584 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 1: I remember when we went to Seattle and we took 585 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 1: over the program and he said, look, I don't need 586 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 1: necessarily a level players at wide receiver. The system would 587 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 1: get them opportunities. We had Joey Galloway when we first 588 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 1: got there. He traded Joey Galloway away to the Dallas 589 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:14,159 Speaker 1: Cowboys for multiple first round picks. Uh. That team they 590 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,439 Speaker 1: went to the Super Bowl had Darryl Jackson and Bobby 591 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 1: Ingram and Joe Jerry Vicious. He believed that the system 592 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 1: that he played, played with, the West Coast system, could 593 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 1: take b players and elevate them as long as he 594 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 1: had the right point guard at quarterback. And so he 595 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 1: did it with Matthew Hasson back. Obviously, he did it 596 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 1: in Green Bay with Brat Farve, and he had Antonio 597 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 1: Freeman and Robert Brooks and others that have played on 598 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: the outside and had success. He is just a believer 599 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 1: that he could X and O and scheme up opportunities 600 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 1: for guys to make plays, and he could turn good 601 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 1: receivers into great receivers with a good quarterback and a 602 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 1: solid system. Yeah. I look at you know, the teams 603 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 1: he was around with the forty Niners. Look at the 604 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 1: teams he's a round with the Packers, And then look 605 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 1: at the team he was there with Seattle. And it's 606 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 1: the same formula. We keep beating this drum over and 607 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 1: over again. Go out and get all the glitz and 608 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 1: glamour you want, I'll take the guy. I'll take the 609 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 1: teams that are rooted in the line of scrimmage, offense 610 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 1: and defensive line in the quarterback position. You take care 611 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 1: of those three spots, you've got a championship caliber chance. Uh, 612 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 1: if nothing else. And that's what he did in all 613 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 1: three of those spots. Yeah, he he he was able 614 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 1: to do it. I think the one common denominated that 615 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 1: he will say now that he is out the game 616 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 1: and he knows um as much as we talk about 617 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 1: the offense, the reason his teams were able to compete 618 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 1: at a high level when he had a top five 619 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 1: or top ten defense, they were able to win. The 620 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 1: teams in Green Bay, they were able to get to 621 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl were teams that were top three or 622 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 1: top four defenses. Yeah, Reggie White and all of the 623 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 1: guys that played on those defenses. So I think he 624 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: understands that defense still matters and that you have to 625 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 1: steal kind of compliment the way that you call offense 626 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: to the way that you want to play on defense. 627 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 1: But he's been able to win a lot of games, 628 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 1: and I've been very, very fortunate to be around him 629 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 1: and pick his brain on a daily basis. Now. I 630 00:29:58,040 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: love it. It's great to to catch up there with 631 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 1: which Mike as you affectionately call him, and everybody that's 632 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 1: said the Big Show first to him. Uh, there you 633 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 1: go the Big show as well. I love it. Uh. 634 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 1: All right, let's get into some stocks that we're buying here, Buck. 635 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,719 Speaker 1: We've got we've each got five offensive stocks looking at 636 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 1: players as stocks, which I always think is kind of fascinating. Um, 637 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 1: and we kind of go through him and say which 638 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 1: ones were high on and and if we had an 639 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 1: opportunity to purchase it, we would. We have our top 640 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 1: five lists. I say. We we go back and forth 641 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 1: here with our number fives and work our way up. 642 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,239 Speaker 1: So why don't you start us off with your number five? 643 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 1: Then I'll give my number five? All right? My number 644 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 1: five guy is Jamis Winston from the Temp Bay Buccaneers. 645 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 1: I think it's now and never for Jamis Winston. If 646 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 1: he's going to be a high end performer guy that 647 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 1: lives up to his draft status, I think it has 648 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 1: to happen now, and it will happen now under Bruce Arians. 649 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 1: Bruce Arians not only has a relationship with Jamis Winston 650 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 1: that I believe will kind of help him play at 651 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 1: a high level. But I think he has the right system, uh, 652 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 1: pushing the ball down the field. He's going to try 653 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 1: and get the running game going so we can throw 654 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 1: all play action. We've talked about play action in the 655 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 1: Quarterback's Best Friend. I just believe with uh Byron Leftwich 656 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 1: and Clad Christensen and Bruce Arians and now Tom Moore 657 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 1: coming over, I think Jamis Winston is going to play 658 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 1: his best football because he has the right voices in 659 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 1: his ear that would allow him to do so. Yeah, 660 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: it's it's gonna be fun to watch him in this offense. 661 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 1: I want to push the ball vertically and um, that's 662 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 1: something he's not afraid to do. I like that choice there. 663 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go my number five, Dante Moncrieff, which I 664 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 1: bet you there's a lot of people listening right now 665 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 1: that don't even know who Donte Moncrief is playing for. Uh, 666 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 1: somebody everybody knows. Young in his career with the Indianapolis 667 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 1: Colts and then last year with the Jacksonville Jaguars, and 668 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 1: then now he's got an opportunity to play with the 669 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame quarterback in Ben Roethlisberger in Pittsburgh, and 670 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 1: I think everybody expects Juju Smith Schuster that he's gonna 671 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 1: catch two passes now, Uh, then Antonio Brown is gone. 672 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 1: Come on, that's not gonna happen. This ball is gonna 673 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 1: get spread around. They love to throw it. Dante Moncrief, 674 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 1: for I believe he's going into a six year He's 675 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 1: twenty five years old. He's always had the ability. He's 676 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 1: still young. He can run. Remember when he was Indianapolis 677 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 1: there at the end Andrew Luck. Those are the injured years. 678 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 1: So he doesn't have an opportunity to play with a 679 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,719 Speaker 1: big time quarterback there. Obviously we know about the quarterback 680 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 1: struggles in Jacksonville. Now he gets a chance with opportunity 681 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh, a team that likes to throw a Hall 682 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 1: of Fame quarterback. No Antonio Brown, those targets are gonna 683 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 1: get spread around. I like Dante Moncrief's chances to get 684 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 1: a whole bunch of them. I mean, look, he should 685 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 1: get plenty of opportunities. One thing we have seen Ben 686 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 1: Roethlisberger do is he will get the ball to the 687 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 1: open guy. He doesn't mind uh spreading it around, and 688 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 1: so Dante Moncrief will get plenty of opportunities because all 689 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 1: the attention will be on Juju Smith Schuster, he may 690 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 1: not be able to replicate what he's done previously with 691 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 1: a B on the other side. That means Mine Crief 692 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 1: will have to play a bigger role. Uh my number 693 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 1: four guy, I'm gonna to Seattle and I'm gonna say 694 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 1: Tyler Lockett. Tyler Lockett is someone that you have to 695 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 1: watch because I don't know if anyone knew Tyler Lockett 696 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 1: had ten touchdowns last year. Tyler Lockett average almost seventeen 697 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 1: yards for a catch. He had forty receptions over forty yards. 698 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 1: He is someone that I'm high home because you don't 699 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,160 Speaker 1: have Doug Ball when you really don't have any one 700 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 1: that can command the middle of the field, and because 701 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 1: the Sattle Shawks are going to run the ball so much, 702 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 1: he's going to give one on one attention on the backside. 703 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 1: I believe this is Taylor May for him to really 704 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 1: break out in a major way. Look for him to 705 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 1: be a player on the rise. I'm believing he's the 706 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 1: guy that we talked about. Maybe as he got his 707 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 1: sneaks into the top ten. When it comes to overall 708 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 1: wide receivers, Yeah, really skilled route runner. I like his 709 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 1: game a lot. There Buck my number four. I'm gonna 710 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 1: go to the Chargers, a team I'm around each and 711 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 1: every week during the fall with Hunter Henry. Hunter Henry 712 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 1: coming back healthy. Not only is he an extremely talented 713 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 1: player who has a a good chemistry with his quarterback 714 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 1: in Philip Rivers. But you gotta remember Tyroe Williams moves 715 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 1: on he goes to the Oakland Raiders, there's some extra 716 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 1: targets to be spread around. Just losing a white out. 717 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 1: I think you're gonna see a lot of two tight 718 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 1: end sets here with the Chargers this year. Virgil Green, 719 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 1: who was one of the more accomplished blockers in the league. 720 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 1: And then you get Hunter Henry out there. He caught 721 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 1: eight touchdowns uh in two thousand sixteen. I believe so 722 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 1: he's he's got a shot here to have a big 723 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 1: year fully healthy of full six team, with the relationship 724 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 1: with Philip, I think double digit touchdowns are in store 725 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 1: for Hunter Henry. Look, Hunter Henry is a big time player, 726 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 1: and I think he has an opportunity. I believe they 727 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 1: may have two guys who stocks on the rise, not 728 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,360 Speaker 1: only Hunter Henry, but Mike Williams. Mike Williams is a 729 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,880 Speaker 1: stud I think we will finally have an opportunity to 730 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 1: fully appreciate him. Nannity slides into that number two role. Um, 731 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 1: I got that. I think we also appreciate. How about 732 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 1: Joe Mixing with the Cincinnati Bengals. Zach Taylor comes in 733 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,760 Speaker 1: and everyone wants a little bit of what Sean McVeigh 734 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:33,840 Speaker 1: was able to do with the Rams. Well, when we 735 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,399 Speaker 1: look at Joe Mixing, I think Joe Mixing can do 736 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,919 Speaker 1: all of the things that Ty Gurley has been able 737 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,399 Speaker 1: to do for the for the l A Rams. Joe 738 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 1: mix is a guy that can run the ball with 739 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 1: power and authority, running between the tackles. He can catch 740 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 1: the ball on the perimeter. He can displace and run 741 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,800 Speaker 1: rous like a wide receiver. He is really just scratching 742 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 1: the surface of his potential. I think Zach Taylor helps 743 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:58,879 Speaker 1: him go to another level. I like it. I can 744 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,320 Speaker 1: get with that very talented player. My number three, Dallas 745 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 1: Goddard uh last year Philadelphia Eagles. They love to play 746 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 1: in that twelve personnel, one back, two tight ends, and 747 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 1: you see it with with Goddard and ERTs Now. Goddard 748 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 1: is another year in the system. He knows it extremely well. 749 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,360 Speaker 1: He's big, he's fast, he's physical. I think they're gonna 750 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 1: live in that personnel grouping again this year, and I 751 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 1: think he is going to have a monster year. Everything 752 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,239 Speaker 1: I've heard uh coming out of Philadelphia, he looks phenomenal. Uh. 753 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,840 Speaker 1: This spring, I think big, big year ahead here for 754 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 1: Dallas Goddard. Oh, I can believe it. He's a challenged player. 755 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:35,400 Speaker 1: That twelve personnel uh packages a problem. It's a problem 756 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,399 Speaker 1: because you have Zach Ers and Dallas Gotter who both 757 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 1: are like jumbo wide receivers. They can displace, they can 758 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 1: do a lot of things, and I think it's going 759 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,759 Speaker 1: to allow Carson Wentz to have a tremendous amount of success. Uh. 760 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,319 Speaker 1: You talked about building a quarterback up for success. I 761 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,360 Speaker 1: think Freddy Kitchens did one of the best jobs that 762 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 1: you could do with a young quarterback. With the work 763 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,799 Speaker 1: that he did last year with Baker Mayfield, I'm gonna 764 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 1: say he takes Baker Mayfield from good to great this year. 765 00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,840 Speaker 1: All the Cleveland Browns have done is surround Baker Mayfield 766 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,920 Speaker 1: with a level talent. Odell Beckham Jr. Coming over, You 767 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,719 Speaker 1: have Jarvis Landry in place, David and Joe Coup should 768 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 1: take a jump. But now Freddie Kitchens is able to 769 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 1: do whatever he wants without asking for permission. I believe 770 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:16,439 Speaker 1: this offense becomes more dynamic, more effective. Uh, Kareem Hunt 771 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,919 Speaker 1: would eventually give them contributions. I think Baker Mayfield plays 772 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:24,319 Speaker 1: at a pro Bowl level this season. Yeah. Look, he 773 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,360 Speaker 1: was great last year and I think he'll find another 774 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,239 Speaker 1: another level in the upcoming season. So leads me to 775 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,240 Speaker 1: my number two. You're going with the second year quarterback. 776 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,360 Speaker 1: I'm going on second year quarterback as well. Uh, with 777 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 1: Sam Donald. Everybody knows where I've been on Sam Donald 778 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 1: throughout this process. Um, I don't know if I'm driving 779 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 1: the bus, but I'm definitely been one of you. Definitely, Yeah, 780 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,799 Speaker 1: I've been. I'm in first class on that on that 781 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 1: mode of transportation. But look, when you look at what's 782 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:51,839 Speaker 1: around him, and I think a lot of people are 783 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:53,960 Speaker 1: focusing with Levy and Bell and how that's gonna help 784 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:55,440 Speaker 1: him run the ball as well as back. They can 785 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 1: give you some easy completions. Uh, They've talked about him, 786 00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 1: They've talked about Jamison Crowder coming over. Another one who 787 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,879 Speaker 1: can help you on third down um, but buck when 788 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:05,439 Speaker 1: when I look at him and I look at who's 789 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 1: gonna help him more than anybody else in this offense, 790 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:09,880 Speaker 1: It's gonna be the tight end. I don't know how 791 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 1: many people pay attention to what Chris Herndon did last 792 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:15,760 Speaker 1: year in his first year, but he is extremely talented 793 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:17,480 Speaker 1: and I think he's got a chance to emerge. Is 794 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,840 Speaker 1: one of really the top young tight ends in the NFL. 795 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:22,719 Speaker 1: I think Chris Herndon has a monster year this year, 796 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:24,440 Speaker 1: and I think Sam Donald is gonna be the benefactor 797 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 1: of that. Oh Sam Donald better factor because he got 798 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,640 Speaker 1: a big playmaker in the middle of field. I think 799 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,400 Speaker 1: he does benefit from not only the guy in the 800 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,400 Speaker 1: middle of field, but for leve Bill behind him. I 801 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,960 Speaker 1: think that's going to help him play at a higher level. 802 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 1: And Adam Gaze say what you want, he does do 803 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,279 Speaker 1: a pretty good job of helping quarterback trying to find 804 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:43,720 Speaker 1: a poet. He definitely can scheme it up. My number 805 00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,320 Speaker 1: one guy. This is surprize. But if I'm a fantasy 806 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,799 Speaker 1: football player, I'm telling you right now, you might want 807 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,760 Speaker 1: to put a star by this name. Tevin Coleman, running 808 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 1: back from the San Francisco forty Niners. He rejoins his 809 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 1: old play caller in Cal Shanahan, and we saw the 810 00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,440 Speaker 1: success that he was able to have in Atlanta. This 811 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 1: is a one cut runner, a guy that is ideally 812 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:06,120 Speaker 1: suited for this zone system. And I know people who 813 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:07,880 Speaker 1: are gonna hit me, h, hey, what about Matt Brada, 814 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,760 Speaker 1: What about Jerry McKinnon. I like both of those guys 815 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,959 Speaker 1: in rotation. Tevin Coleman is going to be the feature back, 816 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:15,960 Speaker 1: not only because he can run it, because he can 817 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,719 Speaker 1: catch the ball out the backfield. I think this guy 818 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,120 Speaker 1: has an opportunity to put up some crazy numbers with 819 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo in the full look for Tevin Coleman to 820 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:28,680 Speaker 1: be a beast for the fort I saw a clip 821 00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:30,600 Speaker 1: the other day, I believe it was Austin Hooper and 822 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,480 Speaker 1: was talking about his time with Kyle Shanahan and just 823 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,120 Speaker 1: to hear a former player not even coaching him anymore, 824 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,880 Speaker 1: talk about just how smart of a game planner and 825 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:43,080 Speaker 1: play caller the Kyle Shanahan is. Unfortunately we've seen because 826 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:44,839 Speaker 1: the injuries they've had there in San Francisco, we haven't 827 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 1: really seen that take off. UM. I think if they 828 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 1: can stay healthy, with the group that he has there, 829 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 1: that San Francisco offense is gonna be pretty dynamic. I 830 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,120 Speaker 1: might catch some people off guard what they're gonna be 831 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,120 Speaker 1: able to do their buck. Yeah, I think the absolutely 832 00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,960 Speaker 1: will catch people off guard. I think this offense twenty 833 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 1: one personnel, the combination of misdirection and play acts and 834 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,720 Speaker 1: getting him on the corner and then having a George 835 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:07,600 Speaker 1: Kiltle and some of the young guys that they've added 836 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,359 Speaker 1: to the offense. The time is now we should see 837 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:13,239 Speaker 1: this offense really really improved. Uh in year three at 838 00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:17,560 Speaker 1: the cal Shanahan system. All Right, Buck my number one guy, 839 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,520 Speaker 1: and you know, having uh my background, haven't spent four 840 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,399 Speaker 1: years in Baltimore. There's some teams that have DNA UH 841 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,319 Speaker 1: and there's a way they go about doing business, and 842 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 1: maybe you change This year there's a change in general manager, 843 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:30,759 Speaker 1: the Eric to Costa taking over for Rosie Newsome. But 844 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:34,160 Speaker 1: he's been there forever. He's been in that raven way 845 00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,359 Speaker 1: of doing business. Now you think about the coaching side 846 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,000 Speaker 1: of things, you've had John Harbaugh has been there for 847 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,440 Speaker 1: a very long time. Before that, our guy Brian Billick 848 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,040 Speaker 1: was there for a very long time. This team and 849 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,600 Speaker 1: this organization has a DNA, and what that DNA is 850 00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,000 Speaker 1: they're gonna play great defense and they are going to 851 00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:52,440 Speaker 1: run the football. So when you look at that combination, 852 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 1: my number one guy is mark Ingram and coming in 853 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,160 Speaker 1: there and I know having a shared load and having 854 00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,279 Speaker 1: missed some time there in New Orleans and numbers blow 855 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,520 Speaker 1: you away last year. Trust me, he's gonna get the 856 00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:06,200 Speaker 1: rock early. He's gonna get the rock often. And every 857 00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,560 Speaker 1: time you get on the internet and you read a 858 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,400 Speaker 1: practice report about Lamar Jackson spraying the ball around a 859 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,120 Speaker 1: little bit, I'm sitting here and going, oh my gosh, 860 00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,480 Speaker 1: you just want to get mark Ingram. The game is 861 00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:17,960 Speaker 1: gonna get thirty. I got thirty carries the game. Now. 862 00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:22,160 Speaker 1: They are gonna run the living daylights out of the 863 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:25,040 Speaker 1: football in Baltimore. And I think mark Ingram's gonna have 864 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:26,279 Speaker 1: a may He'll be a pro bowler this year. If 865 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,879 Speaker 1: mark Ingram is not a pro bowler, I'll be shocked. Oh, 866 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,560 Speaker 1: I I expect him to. Look, they want to run 867 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:33,640 Speaker 1: the football, they want to be physical. They saw what 868 00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:35,759 Speaker 1: it what it did for their team when they were 869 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:37,719 Speaker 1: to run the ball successfully, and they were committed to 870 00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,200 Speaker 1: the run much like to Seattle Seas so the benefits 871 00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:43,360 Speaker 1: when they were committed to running the ball fifcent of 872 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,080 Speaker 1: the time. The Baltimore Ravens are going to maybe get 873 00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:50,640 Speaker 1: to that fifty mark when it comes to run pass ratio. 874 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,560 Speaker 1: So I fully expect mark Ingram to have success, ax 875 00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,279 Speaker 1: peg Gus Edwards to have a little bit exists and 876 00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,280 Speaker 1: acts packed. He'll Justice Hill to also have success because 877 00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:01,799 Speaker 1: they are running so much that it won't be just 878 00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,359 Speaker 1: a one man show. But mark Ingram will certainly beat 879 00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,800 Speaker 1: the bell cow when it comes to this a Ravens offense. 880 00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:09,920 Speaker 1: I don't know if you like sandwiches, buck, but you 881 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 1: go get like a like a twelve inch sandwich. I 882 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,240 Speaker 1: mean you might, you might not get through the second 883 00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,919 Speaker 1: half of the sandwich before the game's over. That clock 884 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,440 Speaker 1: is never gonna stop. It's done. Better eat fast, You're 885 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,080 Speaker 1: not You're no chance to get your chips. You have 886 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:27,560 Speaker 1: no shot to touch you, no orders, no combo orders. 887 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,440 Speaker 1: When you go to the Ravens game, just sandwich. I 888 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,759 Speaker 1: mean maybe you can get a drink, but yeah, leave 889 00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,719 Speaker 1: the chips out because it'll be done and you definitely 890 00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,200 Speaker 1: you would never seen the cookie. You never seen the 891 00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,640 Speaker 1: cookie with the combo. When you go to a game 892 00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:42,719 Speaker 1: to get it to go, put it in the docu 893 00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,399 Speaker 1: back because the game will be over. I know games 894 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,359 Speaker 1: start at one o'clock. I think Baltimore Ravens games will 895 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,920 Speaker 1: be over about three o'clock. I think they literally beat 896 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,640 Speaker 1: to our game. I think it would remind you of 897 00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:58,960 Speaker 1: a soccer match, how quickly it begins and ends. It's 898 00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:00,480 Speaker 1: gonna be fun. It's gonna be fun to watch that 899 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,040 Speaker 1: team there and with U. With that group, they're Greg 900 00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,400 Speaker 1: Roman calling plays and I'll see how creative they can 901 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:07,480 Speaker 1: get with their running game. Be fun to watch. Uh 902 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,520 Speaker 1: look buck, Hey, fun show man. We covered a lot 903 00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,520 Speaker 1: of ground, got your wide receiver talk in. Had some 904 00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:16,000 Speaker 1: fun there with these uh uh with these uh guys 905 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:17,920 Speaker 1: were looking at right now to have monster your stocks 906 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:19,879 Speaker 1: that were buying, as well as talking to your guy 907 00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:21,600 Speaker 1: Mike Hombron. Yeah, it was a lot of fun, man. 908 00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:23,080 Speaker 1: It's always a lot of fun we can bring in 909 00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,960 Speaker 1: some of these different times, especially look summertime. It's a 910 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,719 Speaker 1: little light. We had about a month six weeks before 911 00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,000 Speaker 1: football kind of kicks back up. This is the time 912 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,080 Speaker 1: to tackle in some of those unique projects. It was 913 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,360 Speaker 1: great to have coach Michael and to talk about quarterbacks. 914 00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:39,080 Speaker 1: Though I felt like Hytham, our producer, wanted to jump 915 00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:42,200 Speaker 1: in there, but I didn't mean here. He sounded like 916 00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:43,759 Speaker 1: he wanted to come in like hythe and you've got 917 00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,359 Speaker 1: something to say. I uh, you know, I was just gonna. 918 00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 1: I didn't get a chance to tell coach home ground, 919 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,279 Speaker 1: but I just wanted to mention and thank him for 920 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,040 Speaker 1: you know, helping ruin my childhood. Him and oars Brother. 921 00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,200 Speaker 1: I know you probably feel you probably feel a little 922 00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:58,160 Speaker 1: embolded because you saw your quarterback at the game chugging 923 00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,560 Speaker 1: chugging a beer when Aaron Rodgers had a tough time 924 00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:03,840 Speaker 1: getting it down. So you probably feel like your quarterback 925 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:07,839 Speaker 1: is a little a little more. He might be superior 926 00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,120 Speaker 1: based on his ability to take it all down. I 927 00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:15,080 Speaker 1: think it translates. I mean, I don't know, maybe that's why. 928 00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:19,879 Speaker 1: Maybe that's why I wasn't any good. I definitely can 929 00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,640 Speaker 1: that's what it is. I don't drink, so it would 930 00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:25,960 Speaker 1: have been that would have been a tough one for me. 931 00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,920 Speaker 1: Uh Hey, this was this a fun episode. I would 932 00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:32,160 Speaker 1: appreciate anybody at home if you can get on iTunes 933 00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:35,080 Speaker 1: or or Apple podcasts, I should say and drop us 934 00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,399 Speaker 1: a rating and review there. We do appreciate those trying 935 00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,120 Speaker 1: to get those back up and uh and tell a friend, 936 00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,720 Speaker 1: I think we've got some exciting plans. We've got a series. 937 00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:44,359 Speaker 1: We're not ready to unveil it just yet. We've been 938 00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:47,120 Speaker 1: working behind the scenes on a series we're gonna unveil 939 00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,239 Speaker 1: if you. If you enjoyed our three sixty series, we've 940 00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,920 Speaker 1: got kind of a different take on that. We're gonna 941 00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,719 Speaker 1: roll out here over the summer. So we've got a 942 00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:56,920 Speaker 1: lot of fun things planning here, Buck, Yeah, a lot 943 00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:58,879 Speaker 1: of fun things planning. I'm excited about him, and I'm 944 00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,120 Speaker 1: excited even though that were in the summertime, excited about 945 00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,759 Speaker 1: what Move the Sticks is going to do. Uh this season. 946 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:07,000 Speaker 1: I think we've got a lot of good projects on tap. No, 947 00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:08,840 Speaker 1: it's gonna be fun. So thank you so much for 948 00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,399 Speaker 1: listening and downloading, and we'll see you next time right 949 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:12,600 Speaker 1: here on Move the Sticks.