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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk a little football today. A lot going on.

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Speaker 1: The AFC Championship game shattered some records with viewers. You

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Speaker 1: and his wife looked at him and said, you got

429
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Speaker 1: to become a coach. And he thought, oh my god, God,

430
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Speaker 1: that's the weight off, you know, the pressure off my shoulders.

431
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,680
Speaker 1: I've always wanted to coach, but I felt obligated because

432
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Speaker 1: I played football for so long to be like a

433
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Speaker 1: stay at home dad slash a businessman. And so he

434
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Speaker 1: called Bill Parcells, a guy that he played for in

435
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Speaker 1: the league, and he said, coach, I'm ready to jump

436
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 1: in head first. And Bill said, before you coach, become

437
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Speaker 1: a scout. And Glenn's like, I don't want to become

438
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Speaker 1: a scout. And he's like, I'm telling you scout for

439
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 1: a couple of years before you start coaching. It'll help

440
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Speaker 1: you out immensely, especially as you move up the ranks.

441
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Speaker 1: And he hammered this home yesterday. He said, that's the

442
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Speaker 1: best piece of advice he ever got. I didn't even

443
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Speaker 1: realize that he worked as a scout for the Jets

444
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:43,360
Speaker 1: in house and scouting college players. And when you look

445
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Speaker 1: at Aaron Glenn, his resume is I would say probably

446
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 1: unlike many people in the NFL head coaches GMS. He

447
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:55,160
Speaker 1: played in the NFL, he scouted in the NFL, and

448
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 1: he's been an assistant coach, he's been a coordinator, and

449
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Speaker 1: now he's been a head coach. He's literally checked every

450
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Speaker 1: box you could possibly check in the league. Those shoes

451
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,199
Speaker 1: are hard to fill. And I was thinking about, like,

452
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 1: you know, Colins said this, forever you learn someone's value,

453
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 1: not by how once they go to someone else, some

454
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Speaker 1: other company, start dating someone else, just change careers. What

455
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 1: they do in that new spot, what happens to the

456
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Speaker 1: spot they left? And Colin's a good example. He left

457
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 1: ESPN Radio. How's that thing going? It's completely irrelevant and

458
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 1: basically cratered since the moment he left. And I think

459
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Speaker 1: about this, like Maria was just gone for four days

460
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Speaker 1: at a bridle shower in California, Like the house becomes

461
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 1: a mess, door dash gets ordered twice a day. I

462
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 1: remember being a kid when my mom would go out

463
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Speaker 1: of town. It would be like me, my dad, and

464
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Speaker 1: my brother. It would just be a disaster. Because there

465
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Speaker 1: are certain people that keep it together. And I was

466
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Speaker 1: thinking it is harder to find a good defensive coordinator

467
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Speaker 1: than it is to find a good offensive coordinator. Why

468
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 1: because there are just more good offensive coaches out there

469
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 1: than there are good defensive coaches out there. Honestly, on

470
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Speaker 1: a given year, it feels like there's a very very

471
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Speaker 1: small number of good defensive coaches because as a great

472
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 1: offensive coach, I don't have to be a great leader.

473
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Speaker 1: I really don't. It's why when you hear some you

474
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,200
Speaker 1: watch Ben Johnson or Liam Cohen give a press conference,

475
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Speaker 1: they don't inspire anything. Watch Aaron Glenn give a press conference.

476
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Speaker 1: He looks like he's leading the troops out to battle

477
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Speaker 1: and he's talking to the media, because that's how you

478
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Speaker 1: have to communicate with defensive players. And I just think, listen,

479
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Speaker 1: Kelvin Shepherd, who played in the NFL for a long time,

480
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,360
Speaker 1: who just started coaching in twenty twenty one, is now

481
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Speaker 1: the Lions defensive coordinator. And I'm rooting for the guy.

482
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 1: Saw McAfee who played with him, loves him. People think

483
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Speaker 1: very highly of him. Clearly, Dan Campbell thinks highly of

484
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Speaker 1: this guy. And I remember on Hard Knocks he was impressive.

485
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Speaker 1: It's hard to fill the shoes of Aaron Glenn because

486
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Speaker 1: he was twofold. He's clearly really impressive with the group

487
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 1: and schematically he knows as shit. And you can't fake

488
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 1: thirty years of experience playing for all those different coaches,

489
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:18,640
Speaker 1: then scouting and understanding personnel strengths and weaknesses to then

490
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Speaker 1: work your way up as an assistant dB coach to

491
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Speaker 1: become a dB coach, to then become a coordinator. And

492
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Speaker 1: I just look at the Lions like they just hired

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Speaker 1: Johnny Morton to be their offensive coordinator. It's gonna be

494
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Speaker 1: pretty hard. Maybe it won't be Ben Johnson, but they'll

495
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,199
Speaker 1: be fine on offense. Why they're way too talented and

496
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:39,360
Speaker 1: if anything, just run the similar plays that Ben Johnson ran.

497
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Speaker 1: Defense is a different animal. I've seen it with the

498
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Speaker 1: forty nine ers. They have run through coordinators because like, ah,

499
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Speaker 1: this just doesn't work, and a lot of it is

500
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Speaker 1: just the way you communicate, and it's why they went

501
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 1: back to the well with Robert Solis. So I'm watching

502
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 1: Aaron glend Those are tough tough shoes to fill. I

503
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 1: mentioned this earlier, but the Pro Bowl, I just think

504
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 1: that it's pretty sad that you know, the NFL and

505
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,719
Speaker 1: I would put basketball here like their all Star Pro

506
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 1: Bowl Game is just it's a joke. And I think

507
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 1: this is definitely a product of once you start paying

508
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 1: guys thirty twenty fifty million dollars, how could I take

509
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Speaker 1: this seriously? You know, I remember being a kid and

510
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 1: hearing guys talk about it and how excited they were

511
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 1: to go to Hawaii and take their family on a vacation.

512
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 1: And it is like Dan Marino and Brett farre But

513
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 1: what were those guys making back? And then two, three,

514
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 1: four or five million dollars, which was a ton of

515
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 1: money relative to society, But you're still not turning down

516
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 1: a free trip to Hawaii. It was a really really

517
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 1: big deal when you make fifty million dollars. Hell, when

518
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 1: you sign a hundred million dollar contract, it's like, yeah,

519
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 1: I don't really feel like going to Miami or Vegas.

520
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 1: I'll just I take my own family to Cancun. I

521
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 1: just do not care the NBA All Star Game. They

522
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 1: could not care any less, like these guys put in

523
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 1: zero effort. Baseball is the only sport where they play

524
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Speaker 1: the All Star Game, and at least this looks like

525
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 1: a normal baseball game. But I would say football has

526
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 1: now paralleled basketball. The differences in basketball, they still show up.

527
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Speaker 1: I would imagine there are some financial reasons. In football,

528
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Speaker 1: half these guys Josh Allen will be playing at at

529
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Speaker 1: and T Pro Am. I would imagine this in a

530
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,719
Speaker 1: couple days here in Pebble Beach, he does not go

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Speaker 1: to the Pro Bowl. He just will not go because

532
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 1: he wants to go play golf at Pebble Beach. Don't

533
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 1: blame him. I would too. That was not the case

534
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 1: twenty thirty years ago. And I understand you put whatever

535
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 1: the event is then playing flag football and still millions

536
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 1: of people will watch. But this thing, I mean to me,

537
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 1: it's no longer for me. I just do not care.

538
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 1: And I think it's showing by all these players like

539
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 1: declining invites and once you start like Russell Wilson's going

540
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 1: to the Pro Bowl, Drake may is going to the

541
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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl. Lose me and you lost me years ago,

542
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 1: like when Mac Jones was going to the Pro Bowl.

543
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 1: It's kind of sad. But there's as this business and

544
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 1: the money flow to the players keeps growing and growing

545
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 1: like it is now, this is only going to continue.

546
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 1: We're only in the beginning of this thing becoming the

547
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 1: NBA All Star Game, which is completely irrelevant. I just

548
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 1: visually remember hearing, you know, players talk about it clips

549
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 1: from there, like guys used to really enjoy it. That

550
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 1: is no longer the case. And last but not least,

551
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Speaker 1: sometimes whenever you see like so and so is staying

552
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury is gonna stay in Washington. That was a

553
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 1: report that I read today. Kingsbury stays in Washington. It's like, well,

554
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 1: would he have been the Saints head coach? Probably not,

555
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 1: But like, if you're Cliff, you have another year where

556
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Speaker 1: you're in the playoffs. I would imagine he will be

557
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 1: one of the top candidates next year, which I do

558
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 1: things a little crazy. I think two things can be true.

559
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury is perfect for Washington, is perfect for Jayden,

560
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: and is an awesome offensive coordinator. Is Cliff Kingsbury head coach?

561
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 1: And there's nothing wrong with not being a head coach.

562
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 1: Ask Spagnola or Vic Fangio. It pays three four five

563
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 1: million dollars to be a coordinator in this league. You know,

564
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 1: I'm watching Liam Cohen yesterday and I think I mentioned

565
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 1: this on yesterday's podcast. I'm not trying to make huge

566
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 1: reactions when when price conferences don't go bad. He does

567
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 1: come off a little weird, and part of being the

568
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 1: head coach is not just interacting with Baker Mayfield or

569
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Speaker 1: Will Levis. I mean Liam Cohen was an assistant wide

570
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 1: receiver coach five years ago. I mean, it's an epic

571
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 1: come up, epic come up, it's it's borderline insane. Beckwell,

572
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 1: he did a great job with Baker Mayfield this year.

573
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 1: Their offense was awesome last year as well. I mean,

574
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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield coming into this year got one hundred million

575
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 1: dollar contract for a reason. But I'm not saying I

576
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: would rather have Cliff like Cliff the guy than Liam

577
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 1: Cohen the guy. I just don't think he's a head coach.

578
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 1: And then there's just nothing wrong with that. If you're Washington,

579
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Speaker 1: you're paying him a ton of money. It's a great spot.

580
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: You get to resurrect this iconic franchise and uh yeah,

581
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 1: props to him for just resurrecting his career. Okay, let's

582
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: do a little thing we like to call the Middlecoff

583
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 1: mail bag at John Middlecoff. At John Middlecoff is the

584
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Speaker 1: Instagram fire in those dms. Get your question answered here

585
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 1: on the show. Quick question for you as someone who

586
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 1: knows the Shanahan coaching tree. What's your take on Seattle

587
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 1: hiring Kubiak as their new OC. It feels like a

588
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 1: move that could bring some of the Shanahan style influence

589
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 1: to Seattle, which is intriguing. Do you think Kubiak has

590
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: what it takes to elevate Seattle's offense given the talent

591
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 1: they're gonna have on their roster. Also, would you ever

592
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 1: consider coming up with a name for like your fans

593
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 1: of the pod like I think Jim Rome used to

594
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 1: call it You're in the Jungle or Stoole's or something.

595
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not great at brand names at coming

596
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 1: up with them. So you got any ideas, hit me up.

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Speaker 1: I would say Kubiak, you know the Shanahan tree. He's

598
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 1: of the Mike Shanahan tree because his father, Gary was

599
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: like Mike Shanahan's first real protege, Right played for him

600
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 1: as a quarterback as a backup, then immediately transitioned as

601
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 1: his quarterback coach, offensive coordinator. He's got multiple sons. Clint

602
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 1: I think played football at Colorado State, but he was

603
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 1: a safety, not an offensive player. His coaching style, he's

604
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:02,479
Speaker 1: transitioned to be a offensive guy because you know what

605
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 1: he knows, I'm sure growing up from his dad. I

606
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 1: would say that Mike McDonald aspires to do what they

607
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 1: did when Baltimore of running the ball, and I think

608
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:20,280
Speaker 1: that was a knock on Ryan Grubb, who they fired,

609
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 1: who I haven't seen if he's already back at Alabama,

610
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 1: but that's where most people thought he would go is

611
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:29,760
Speaker 1: run the football. And Kubiak. No coordinator in the NFL

612
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:36,800
Speaker 1: started hotter than Kubiak because this year, through two games

613
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 1: with New Orleans, it looked like they were the greatest

614
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 1: show on turf and then they got a million injuries

615
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 1: and it fell apart. But he's gonna run the ball.

616
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Speaker 1: I had a buddy that was on that staff with

617
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 1: him in New Orleans and he said, this guy loves

618
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 1: running the ball, so get ready for that. Now that

619
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Speaker 1: almost all the coaching positions of field would love to

620
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Speaker 1: hear your opinion. What grade would you give each higher?

621
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 1: I would you got to give the Bears an A

622
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 1: because that's who they wanted, That's who all their fans wanted,

623
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 1: the number one coach on the market. They had to

624
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: get him. Jags, that thing seems like a shit show.

625
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 1: I know, He's had a good year in in Tampa,

626
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 1: but I'm giving that thing a C. It's like you

627
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 1: interviewed him and then you fired bulky and then you

628
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 1: had to give him twelve thirteen million dollars. He's kind

629
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 1: of a weird dude that I got that thing red

630
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:34,919
Speaker 1: flagged jets. I'd go a minus. You know, b Plug,

631
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Speaker 1: I really like Aaron Glenn. I just like, did he

632
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: have a lot? Yeah? I guess New Orleans probably wanted

633
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: him a minus A. I think it's harder the difference,

634
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,320
Speaker 1: like why I'd give the Bears an A and you

635
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 1: know Aaron Glenn. I view him both as really good candidates.

636
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,320
Speaker 1: You know, it's harder. You know, Ben Johnson's gonna have

637
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 1: an immediate impact. Why he calls the place for Caleb

638
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: Williams and he's gonna do nothing on defense because that's

639
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 1: gonna be Dennis Allen's baby. It's very easy to see

640
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 1: the hierarchy there. He's gonna call plays, he's gonna try

641
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,359
Speaker 1: to resurrect the offense, and Dennis Allen, who's a good

642
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,280
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. It's just easy to see how that operates.

643
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 1: Sometimes when you become the CEO head coach even though

644
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 1: Aaron glenn Is you watch his personality, he's set up

645
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 1: for that right to be like a hardball brother or Tomlin.

646
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 1: You know he's gonna be fine. But it's like, well,

647
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:25,919
Speaker 1: who are your coordinators, who's calling the plays, who's your quarterback?

648
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: It's just more challenging that way. Raiders, I think you'd

649
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 1: have to give a pretty good grade because I mean,

650
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 1: you just get a real coach Patriots a Cowboys. I'll

651
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 1: give a B minus. I think everyone's given the Cowboys

652
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 1: an F like you can give Jerry and f and

653
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 1: their process and F. But I I don't know if

654
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 1: Brian Schottenheimer's gonna be that much different. Mike McCarthy. To

655
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 1: be honest with you, a lot of people keep asking me,

656
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 1: did I work with spy Tech with the Eagles? We

657
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,319
Speaker 1: missed each other. He left the year that I showed up.

658
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 1: I've been watching the pod for a long time, but

659
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 1: haven't asked a mail back question. I'm curious to hear

660
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 1: your thoughts on the Bengals firing. Anna Rumo felt like

661
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 1: the move to divert the blame from Zach Taylor, who's

662
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 1: been disappointing from a game management and offensive creativity standpoint,

663
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 1: how long do you think he lasts? I know they're cheap,

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00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 1: similar to the Chargers pre Harbaugh, but the Chargers were

665
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 1: in a similar situation with Herbert and Staley, and just

666
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 1: last season they made a change. Did he buy himself

667
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 1: more time because of the success early in Burrow's career?

668
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 1: Thanks for reading my question. Major difference between him and

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Speaker 1: old Brandon, which I hope Robert Sala tosses out of

670
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: the building in San Francisco sooner or later. Zach Taylor

671
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 1: does call the offensive place. So like your most prized

672
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 1: possession Joe and your second Jamar Chase, the offense is

673
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 1: kind of his thing. Now. You can say he's an

674
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 1: overrated offensive play caller, and I think really nitpicking. Sometimes

675
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 1: his play calling in a situational standpoint could be a

676
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 1: little weird, just like past past, past, past past, But

677
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 1: like ultimately he does impact the quarterback. I do think

678
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 1: he is, you know, hot, we use that term, I

679
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 1: think a little too loosely. Everyone just throws it out

680
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,359
Speaker 1: like he's on the hot seat. I think if Zach

681
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 1: Taylor they're not in the playoffs, he will not be

682
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:21,479
Speaker 1: the coach of the Bengals next year. There are any

683
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Speaker 1: chance that Schottenheimer works. I mean, I assume there is,

684
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 1: however small it is, but how much credit would Jerry

685
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 1: get even at that point it was a best a

686
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:35,760
Speaker 1: blind guess. Uh, there's a chance it works. Like why

687
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 1: can't Brian Schottenheimer just be solid and if they do

688
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 1: a good job. They've drafted well over the years, and

689
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: he just had his team stays healthy, they couldn't compete

690
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 1: to make the wild card next year. I believe that

691
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 1: that's a possibility. He is not like some urban Meyer

692
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,839
Speaker 1: that had no clue how to operate in the NFL.

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00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 1: Doesn't seem like he's, you know, completely over his head

694
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 1: like some of these like Joe Judge or Patricia or

695
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,800
Speaker 1: Tom Sula. People love that I keep dropping Tom Sula.

696
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 1: I was just there for the Tom Sula experience. And

697
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 1: if you were there for the Tom Suwella experience, it's

698
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: something you will never ever forget. He once farted in

699
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,360
Speaker 1: a press conference. If you don't believe me, YouTube it,

700
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 1: and it was awesome. It was glorious. I think Balky

701
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 1: also farted in a press conference like in the last year,

702
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 1: which is perfect because they were together when they were

703
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 1: with the forty nine ers, Balky hired him, but he's

704
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 1: I just don't think he's gonna be that bad now.

705
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 1: I think if they just keep doing what they're doing,

706
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 1: maybe a ten win season, then maybe a seven win season,

707
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 1: people are just gonna freak out and blame Jerry. Now,

708
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 1: if it does work and he's just good, let's just

709
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 1: say he's a good head coach, and we'll see who

710
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Speaker 1: is defensive coordinator? Oh, they hired ebra Flus, who's good

711
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator? Right, It's like some of these guys you

712
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,879
Speaker 1: just saw this cycle, right, Eberflus fired, saw the fire.

713
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:59,800
Speaker 1: Dennis Allen fired all those guys. Immediate hires his defensive

714
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 1: cord good defensive coordinators, no brainer hires like all of

715
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:05,879
Speaker 1: them making a lot of money as defensive coordinators. They're

716
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 1: just not good head coaches. So it's like, you get

717
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 1: a defensive coordinator. Now, you know Jerry loved Like why

718
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 1: did he rehire ebra Flues or why did he hire

719
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,839
Speaker 1: ebra Flues or shot him? Like ebra Flues had worked there,

720
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 1: so it's like they knew him. Jerry loves doing that shit,

721
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 1: like guys, he knows and I'm with you. If they win,

722
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Speaker 1: Let's say they won a super Bowl. Let's just say

723
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 1: in some world, the Cowboys in two years win the

724
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Jerry, You're right, Like Jerry, if you were

725
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 1: really believed what you were selling yesterday at the press commerce,

726
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 1: you would not have released the uh you know, the

727
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 1: news that you hired this guy Friday night at nine

728
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 1: o'clock Dallas time. And you can't tell me that you're

729
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 1: just well, this is gonna be the fan reaction. No,

730
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 1: you knew everyone would shit on the move. And like

731
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Speaker 1: I just I'm with you. I don't think Jerry gets

732
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 1: that much credit, even though he would take it all, literally,

733
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:10,280
Speaker 1: all of it over Shotenneimer Shottenneimer could have an undefeated season,

734
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 1: the Cowboys could win every game and win the Super Bowl,

735
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 1: Dak could win the MVP. Jerry would take the credit.

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Speaker 1: I do kind of like Jerry. I just find him entertaining.

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00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,479
Speaker 1: My question for the mailbag is this, do you feel

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Speaker 1: like Lamar Jackson would have a better chance at winning

739
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,760
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl with another team? I know the Ravens

740
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 1: are a stable organization, but I can't help but wonder

741
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 1: if you played for the forty nine ers, you'd have

742
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 1: a ring your thoughts the forty nine ers have been

743
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 1: to Super Bowl twice and they've played the Chiefs and

744
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 1: they lost both games. Lamar Jackson hosted the NFC Championship

745
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 1: team or AFC Championship last year, a team that the

746
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 1: forty nine Ers we win the Super Bowl. The Ravens

747
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: played the Niners on Christmas in twenty twenty three and

748
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:59,760
Speaker 1: beat the breaks off them, kicked their ass. I forget

749
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 1: the final score, but the final score was not as

750
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 1: close to the actual game because the Niners got some

751
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 1: got some garbage points. Let me just look up the

752
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 1: score thirty three to nineteen, and the forty nine Ers

753
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 1: scored in the fourth quarter seven points, so it was

754
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 1: thirty three to twelve going into the fourth quarter. He

755
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 1: had the number one seed, the best defense in the league.

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00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 1: So no, I I the Ravens is as good of

757
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 1: a spot as you can have. He has a great defense.

758
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:37,800
Speaker 1: He has Derrick Henry now Mark Andrews, who usually can catch.

759
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 1: I've been watching closely on how the ratings for the

760
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 1: NBA are at a low point, but the NFL are

761
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 1: at an all time high. I was curious if you

762
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 1: recall a time when the NFL seemed to have a

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Speaker 1: popularity issue. I don't think it would ever be low

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Speaker 1: when you consider the Super Bowl and the urgency of

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00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 1: each game. But I started following football closely in seven eight,

766
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 1: but wondered how the NFL's popularity looked like in the

767
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 1: two thousands when we got Ravens, Giants, Super Bowl and

768
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 1: Bucks Raiders. I would say the NFL became much more

769
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: popular over time in the Internet era, and I think

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00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:21,839
Speaker 1: a huge reason for that was the dominance of Tom

771
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:26,280
Speaker 1: Brady and Peyton Manning. Those two guys were Magic Johnson

772
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 1: and Larry Bird what they meant to the NBA, and

773
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 1: then Tom Brady kept parlaying that into one of this

774
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 1: twenty year dynasty with a team that more people hated

775
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 1: than liked, and that just drew everyone's emotion. So I

776
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 1: think the explosion of those two guys and then handing

777
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 1: it off to you know, guys like Aaron Rodgers, you know,

778
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson became a superstar for a couple of years,

779
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 1: and then obviously the crew of guys we have now.

780
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 1: So I think the NFL has always been driven by

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00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 1: its star quarterbacks, at least in my lifetime. You know,

782
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 1: I was born in to Lway, Montana. Marino through Troy Aigman,

783
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:07,280
Speaker 1: Steve Young, Brett Favre, kind of that crew into Brady

784
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Speaker 1: and Manning and Roethlisberger. I mean, there's a ton of guys, right,

785
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 1: but Drew Brees, You're only as strong as your quarterbacks.

786
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Speaker 1: And I think the NFL, we talked about it earlier

787
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 1: on the pod, that the urgency, it's not just the urgency,

788
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 1: it's it's easy to consume. It's once a week. Like

789
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 1: I feel very lucky that this just I ended up

790
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 1: working in football, because when I was early on in college,

791
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 1: I would have worked in any of these sports, right

792
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:37,840
Speaker 1: if they would have had me. I liked football the most.

793
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 1: But if I could have got into baseball, I don't

794
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 1: know if I would have lasted because I would have

795
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 1: got bored. But I did my career. If someone would

796
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 1: have hired me on a professional baseball team, I would

797
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:51,360
Speaker 1: have done that. And I think I feel very fortunate

798
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 1: that I don't have to watch a baseball game every night.

799
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: How I did this in radio watch a basketball game

800
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: every night. I can't even imagine doing that, right, And

801
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,240
Speaker 1: when you do local radio, you don't really have a choice,

802
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 1: like I don't. I don't watch any of those sports one,

803
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 1: I don't even feel like they matter, definitely to me

804
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,839
Speaker 1: and obviously to the consumer. Here in football, it's like

805
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 1: it's a grind during the season, but it's Monday night,

806
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 1: it's Sunday night, it's Thursday night. And that's kind of it.

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00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 1: Like there's no game on Tuesday, there's no game on

808
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:23,240
Speaker 1: on Wednesday, there's no game on on Friday. There's college

809
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:26,839
Speaker 1: games and Saturday watch college. But it's it's just if

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Speaker 1: you're a diehard Bengal fan or diehard Penn State fan,

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00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,839
Speaker 1: it's just it's so easy to consume, you know, for

812
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 1: three hours once a week. The day might change, you know,

813
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 1: in the NFL, could be a Thursday night or could

814
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 1: be a Monday night. In college, I would say ninety

815
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 1: nine percent of your games are gonna be on Saturday,

816
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 1: but every once in a while you might get like

817
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:49,399
Speaker 1: a Friday night game, not counting the playoffs, and it's

818
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 1: just an easy sport to follow, and right or wrong,

819
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,840
Speaker 1: we've never been more splintered when it comes to our attention.

820
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 1: Even though I feel like the content on television has,

821
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 1: it's never really been worse that the show with Tim Riggins.

822
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 1: I think I talked about this recently where he's like,

823
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 1: I wouldn't call it quite Cowboys and Indians. It's you know,

824
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 1: it's about I think the late eighteen hundreds, early nineteen hundreds,

825
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 1: maybe the mid eighteen hundreds with Brigham Young, and it

826
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 1: was just it was like john Wick meets meets a Western.

827
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 1: It was it was e lea six shows, you know,

828
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,919
Speaker 1: as a series on Netflix. But I feel for every

829
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 1: one of those, there are ninety misses. I actually don't

830
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: feel the content on these streaming services are that great,

831
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 1: and it's pretty rare now. You know. Every once in

832
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 1: a while you get like a Game of Thrones, which

833
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:45,360
Speaker 1: I didn't really like. But I'm not that into like

834
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 1: sci fi stuff though. I watch because I like violence

835
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 1: and sex. So it's like if you tell me you're

836
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 1: gonna give me, even if you are gonna have dragons,

837
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 1: like yeah, a lot of people die and a lot

838
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 1: of nudity, It's like, yeah, I'll watch. But I don't

839
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 1: feel like there are that many shows that like every

840
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 1: single human's watching, you know, and football is the one

841
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 1: I think we all agree on now we might not

842
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 1: like I try to watch most games, right, I mean,

843
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 1: as the season goes on, like you don't have to

844
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 1: watch Jags Giants, but you know, I got multiple TVs

845
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:19,320
Speaker 1: with four boxes and TV and computer screens. But everyone,

846
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,879
Speaker 1: more than likely if you're listening to podcast, has a team,

847
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 1: And if you're not watching the red zone like you

848
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 1: watch your team's game, you could be a big baseball fan,

849
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 1: like miss a week of baseball and it just doesn't matter.

850
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 1: Like it's pretty hard to miss a game of football,

851
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 1: and no one wants to do that. I saw an

852
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 1: interesting graphic the last twenty five NFC and AFC championships.

853
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:44,320
Speaker 1: The AFC has obviously been dominated by Manning, Big Ben

854
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 1: and Brady and now Patty Mahomes. The NFC has been

855
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 1: nothing but parody. However, despite having great quarterbacks like Breeze, Rogers,

856
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 1: to a lesser extent, Russell, Wilson, Eli and Matt Ryant,

857
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 1: why do you think none of those quarterbacks were able

858
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 1: to dominate the NFC in the same way Patty, Tom

859
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 1: and Peyton were able to dominate the AFC. Well, the

860
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 1: only one you listed in the NFC who is remotely

861
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:14,360
Speaker 1: as good as those other three guys is Aaron Rodgers.

862
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:18,240
Speaker 1: And I'm pretty sure Aaron Rodgers went to five championship games,

863
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 1: which is pretty good. I think looking back on Aaron Rodgers' career,

864
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 1: I think if you played it, Bill Simmons plays his game. Sometimes,

865
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 1: if you just played his career ten times, you could argue,

866
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 1: I guess he could potentially have a worst career. He

867
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,240
Speaker 1: could never have won a super Bowl like Dan Marino.

868
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 1: But I think seven out of the ten times, if

869
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 1: we just ran a simulation, Aaron Rodgers makes it to

870
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:44,840
Speaker 1: like three or four super Bowls, even if he loses

871
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:46,800
Speaker 1: some of them, like he's in more super Bowls. I

872
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 1: think it's pretty crazy looking back at Aaron Rodgers career

873
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,800
Speaker 1: that he only made it to one super Bowl. I

874
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 1: think it's pretty crazy, right, Like he's dramatically better than

875
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, you know it, Eli Manning. They just got

876
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 1: hot at the right time for whatever reason. Rogers being

877
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 1: these awesome teams, and his teams just wouldn't get hot

878
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 1: in the playoffs and they would just lose these devastating

879
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:10,360
Speaker 1: games Tampa, the one year to Brady, a couple times,

880
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers. Obviously the Seattle game that they

881
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 1: lost was that game in Seattle. So I just think

882
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 1: that you could argue that Patrick Mahomes. You know, Peyton

883
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 1: Manning is better than Rodgers and Tom Brady, like Patrick

884
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 1: and Brady, had Belichick and had Andy Reid. I think

885
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:34,919
Speaker 1: if you put Aaron Rodgers with one of those two guys,

886
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:39,319
Speaker 1: I think he has more Super Bowls. I mean shit,

887
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 1: Jalen's been to two. Jalen's been is gonna start more

888
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:45,720
Speaker 1: Super Bowls than Aaron Rodgers. Jalen hurts, YEA, how crazy

889
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 1: that is. Russell Wilson started more Super Bowls than Aaron

890
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 1: Rodgers Eli Manning did. It's pretty insane that that he

891
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 1: only went to one. It's pretty crazy Giants fan here.

892
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 1: I don't understand how we just give away three players McKinnie,

893
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:04,360
Speaker 1: Barkley and Daniel Jones and didn't get back one single

894
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:06,880
Speaker 1: draft pick. I understand their contracts were out, but couldn't

895
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 1: they have signed them to a contract and then immediately

896
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 1: traded them. We have a tendency to do this, and

897
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:14,280
Speaker 1: it pisces me. Off side note, Spags was our defensive

898
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 1: coordinator when we won the Super Bowl in O seven,

899
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 1: one of the few stop to stop Tom Brady. Dude,

900
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:24,359
Speaker 1: his legend true. He really is. The Daniel Jones thing

901
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 1: is like whatever that was just all time disaster scenario.

902
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 1: Right has career year. I think he's like, what do

903
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 1: you throw fifteen touchdowns? And he gets the eighty million

904
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 1: dollar contract, and that's just obviously an immediate regret. You know,

905
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 1: McKinney clearly just didn't vibe with the coaching staff. You

906
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 1: know better than me. I mean, I'm sure there have

907
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 1: been articles written like they just they didn't think he fit.

908
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 1: I mean, they drafted a safety relatively high right in

909
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 1: the draft. You know, the Saquon thing's well documented. In

910
00:50:56,600 --> 00:51:00,760
Speaker 1: fairness to them, you know, Saquon just for the money

911
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:03,799
Speaker 1: doesn't make sense. When your offensive line sucks and your

912
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 1: offense sucks, I think that's just a win win. What

913
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 1: are your thoughts in the University of Utah? Diehard Utes fan,

914
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 1: but frustrated with Cam Rising and head coach Kyle Whittingham

915
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:15,319
Speaker 1: no sense of direction. We were projected to win the

916
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:19,720
Speaker 1: Big twelve last season, but we're an embarrassment. Your guys,

917
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 1: relationship with Cam Rising has been we all have this

918
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 1: friend who's like had this on and off, whether it's

919
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:28,959
Speaker 1: like a wife that feels like they've been divorced five

920
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:32,839
Speaker 1: times or a girlfriend that somehow they've been dating for seven, eight,

921
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 1: ten years, but it's like, why aren't they married? Do

922
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 1: they even like each other? But it's a weird relationship,

923
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 1: and the Cam Rising thing should probably should have ended

924
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, and this year they went

925
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 1: all in on him and he got hurt early. I

926
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 1: was actually watching the game when he got shoved I think,

927
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 1: into the bench and hurt his hand. And then you

928
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 1: had to go to to Zach Wilson's brother. You guys,

929
00:51:57,000 --> 00:52:01,800
Speaker 1: quarterback play is just I don't understand how this team

930
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 1: can't just find some just solid quarterbacks. You have an

931
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 1: elite defense, you always have good running backs, but your

932
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 1: quarterback play subtract Cam Rising. It just sucks. It feels

933
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 1: like it's been that way for a while. I'm not

934
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 1: asking for Alex Smith number one overall pick, but Utah,

935
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 1: you'd feel like, yeah, they just got a couple guys

936
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 1: that were just drafted back to back times in like

937
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 1: the sixth round, but just doesn't happen. Keep it the

938
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 1: great work. I wanted to pose this to you for

939
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 1: the mailbag. My wife is a school teacher and I

940
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:36,439
Speaker 1: work in compliance for a financial institution. We don't make

941
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 1: an abnormal amount of money, and I'd say we're about

942
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 1: middle class. As middle class comes, that's not a bad

943
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 1: thing in my book. I agree. I want to eventually

944
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 1: invest some of our money, but I'm not sure where

945
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:51,320
Speaker 1: to start. I was wondering if you have any advice

946
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 1: or guidance about how to go about this. I don't

947
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 1: necessarily need examples of what to invest with, but more so,

948
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:02,799
Speaker 1: how I judge what a good investment would be. I mean,

949
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:07,760
Speaker 1: I feel that I'm not quite comfortable answering this for you.

950
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 1: You know, every investment. I think we all look at

951
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 1: money and look at investments much differently because we have

952
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 1: different risk tolerances. There are probably some people if they

953
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:21,879
Speaker 1: looked at my stock allocation or what. I guess that's

954
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:24,719
Speaker 1: the majority. It's not like. I mean, I have a

955
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 1: house I live in and Maria has another house that

956
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 1: we rent out, but I say we now because we're

957
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 1: about to get married. I had nothing to do with it.

958
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 1: But you know, my risk tolerance for investing in stocks

959
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 1: is I would say one to ten, one being not

960
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,400
Speaker 1: risk at all, ten being some people would call you

961
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 1: fucking nut job, much closer to ten than it is one.

962
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:51,439
Speaker 1: Just like there are some people that you know would

963
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 1: be like, yeah, that's the way I like to invest.

964
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:55,360
Speaker 1: And then there are other people that you know just

965
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 1: play it slow and steady in the slow lanth. So

966
00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 1: I think it is so dependent whether you are going

967
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 1: to invest one hundred dollars, one hundred grand, or one

968
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 1: hundred million dollars. It's very dependent on who you are. Obviously,

969
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 1: if you have one hundred million dollars, there will just

970
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:09,919
Speaker 1: be a way. I mean, you're gonna take a large

971
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 1: portion and just play it safe, right, But when you're

972
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:16,360
Speaker 1: talking about like money that you're going to invest that

973
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 1: you need either for retirement or potentially to use on

974
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:24,360
Speaker 1: a down payment, you need to talk to financial advisors

975
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:28,399
Speaker 1: because this is not something that like I don't want

976
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 1: to say a gut feel. I mean, I've been messing

977
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:34,800
Speaker 1: with the market for probably give or take a decade,

978
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 1: but like you know, what I do is not for you.

979
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:42,880
Speaker 1: I don't really I don't have a financial advisor. I know,

980
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 1: we got a couple of people that listen that are

981
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 1: constantly blowing me up to try to get my business.

982
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:50,400
Speaker 1: I just enjoy doing it now as I have children

983
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:53,919
Speaker 1: as my risk tolerance, I'm sure potentially changes like I'm

984
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:58,800
Speaker 1: just I'm a risk taker, so I don't know. Obviously,

985
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 1: there has to come a lot, you know, if you

986
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 1: know your children's tuition to go to college. Even though

987
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:08,279
Speaker 1: I'd say, hey, you know, college isn't necessary, I just

988
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:11,280
Speaker 1: struggle to give you advice on something that is so personal.

989
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's very very personal. I would say

990
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 1: it's more personal than like, hey, should I should I buy?

991
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 1: Or rent? Right? Should I should I ask her to

992
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:22,880
Speaker 1: marry me? Like I feel comfortable out answering those questions

993
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 1: like how should I invest? I think that's really really

994
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:28,719
Speaker 1: up to you. The one advice I would have though,

995
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 1: invest money. Invest money, even if it's in the very

996
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 1: very basic stuff right which most people just call the

997
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:39,840
Speaker 1: S and P five hundred. I think you're crazy. You know.

998
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 1: One of my biggest regrets is not starting this right

999
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 1: when I left college held to it in college. You know,

1000
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 1: I started when I was thirty, give or take. I

1001
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:52,759
Speaker 1: lost years of earning potential, even if it wouldn't have

1002
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 1: been a lot of money being put in there. The

1003
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 1: faster you can invest, the quicker, I would do it,

1004
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 1: big fan, and I enjoy listening to you talk about

1005
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:18,880
Speaker 1: your experience moving out of California. I recently moved my

1006
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:22,879
Speaker 1: family from Santa Rosa, California. It's kind of for those

1007
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 1: of you non Californians, think Napa, think above San Francisco area.

1008
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 1: It's beautiful, but it's insanely expensive. Now we can't afford

1009
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 1: to have way more space with way less people, and

1010
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 1: it's awesome. I agree with you that Nevada and Arizona

1011
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 1: are booming states and growing economies the way people talked

1012
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:45,799
Speaker 1: about Oregon and Washington, Texas twenty plus years ago. My

1013
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:48,400
Speaker 1: question for you is, as much as we love hearing

1014
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:50,879
Speaker 1: your football takes, do you think you would ever want

1015
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 1: to talk more about politics, government, or geography type topics.

1016
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:58,759
Speaker 1: I really enjoy listening to you and Colin talk about

1017
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 1: the Paradise fires after it happened. If you wanted to

1018
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 1: go that route, I'd be all yours. I would never

1019
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 1: say never, I would say right now. I just you know,

1020
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 1: sometimes when you talk about politics, it just becomes it's

1021
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 1: not even like the polarizing you talk about football. People

1022
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 1: get pissed off at things you say. It does for

1023
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 1: me strike more of like an anger emotion. And it's

1024
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 1: one of the reasons that when I moved to Arizona.

1025
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 1: I just I kept getting so mad at myself for

1026
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 1: being angry over things that I could not control. So

1027
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 1: I removed myself from the situation of like, why are

1028
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 1: you just gonna get mad at what is? And this

1029
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 1: was during twenty and twenty one in California, Like why

1030
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 1: are you getting so mad at these things that nothing

1031
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:52,439
Speaker 1: you can do can change any of it? Right? And

1032
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 1: I just I remember that feeling. And sometimes, you know,

1033
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 1: and I enjoy talking politics with my friends, and I

1034
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 1: enjoy falling on the internet and stuff that's going on.

1035
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 1: But I do think there is more enjoyment talking about

1036
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 1: sports now. I would say one big picture thing is,

1037
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 1: you know, in this profession, there's more money talking about politics,

1038
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 1: that's for sure, and for a reason. I mean, there's

1039
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 1: more just more anger. I mean there's just Maria was

1040
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 1: I was involved in a sale of someone that's in

1041
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 1: the political sphere. And there's NBA's being you know, given

1042
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 1: out to protect people and rightfully so, because stuff gets out,

1043
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 1: you just put your family at harm. It's kind of crazy. Yeah,

1044
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 1: I'm forty years old. We've been in this space now

1045
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:43,920
Speaker 1: for a decade, and we'll just see how life goes.

1046
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 1: But right now we'll talk to some Tua. What should

1047
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins do with Tua now that he is

1048
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:55,280
Speaker 1: under contract? And where does Tyreek Hill go now when

1049
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 1: he essentially gave up on the team. Yes, you know

1050
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 1: there's that question. Is the equivalent of like middlecuff, what

1051
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 1: should happen to social Security? You know, it's it's like

1052
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 1: it's much easier to get like that's a bad question

1053
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 1: for me because I don't even know where the fuck

1054
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 1: I couldn't tell you more than a paragraph about social Security.

1055
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 1: But when it comes to Tula, like, it's an easy

1056
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:20,560
Speaker 1: question for me to answer. I think you just try

1057
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 1: to get out of that thing as quickly as possible,

1058
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:27,480
Speaker 1: because if he's your quarterback, you got no chance. The

1059
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:30,440
Speaker 1: thing with the AFC, man, it is a different animal.

1060
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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, C. J. Stroud, Justin Herbert.

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00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 1: I'm not putting bo Nicks in their class, but like

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00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:42,680
Speaker 1: him er Sean Payton, like that thing's gonna work. It's

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00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 1: just it's just difficult, you know, it really is. The

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00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 1: The AFC is no joke. I don't know what else

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00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 1: to say besides like, I just don't take Miami that seriously,

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00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 1: you know, I really don't, and no one wants like

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00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 1: the two of stuff with him getting hurt. That's just

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01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 1: that last was it? This? Yeah? It was this year

1069
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 1: Thursday night playing the Bills? Was that like Week two?

1070
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:09,720
Speaker 1: Was that Week three when he got hit? That was

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01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 1: I would say one of the low moments of the

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01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 1: NFL And just that whole conversation around that, and even

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01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:19,360
Speaker 1: I saw Sabin. I saw a clip on Instagram. He

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01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 1: went on the Pivot podcast and Shannon Crowder told a

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01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 1: pretty funny story about Saban. But also like Saban, he

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01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:29,360
Speaker 1: was asked like, who are your favorite players in Alabama?

1077
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 1: And he listed like five guys, like he didn't list

1078
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 1: that many, and two of them obviously like Julio Jones,

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01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 1: who are your favorite players to coach? One thing I

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01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 1: respect a shipload about Tua. It feels Saban's favorite quarterback

1081
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 1: that he coached for seventeen years in Alabama is Tua.

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01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 1: He loved that guy. Love that guy. Love Bryce Young too.

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01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 1: And I think two was a high level cat Like

1084
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:56,080
Speaker 1: I like two of the guy. I just he's not

1085
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:58,000
Speaker 1: really my cup of tea as a player, weak arm,

1086
01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:04,600
Speaker 1: can't really move, small a couple more questions. Coach Carrol's

1087
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:07,320
Speaker 1: press conference, he made lots of mentions of the Raiders

1088
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:12,840
Speaker 1: ownership group, Wagner, Durbin, Michael Meldon, and of course Brady.

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Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on the organizational shift within the Raiders.

1090
01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:20,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I think those guys are like venture capitalists,

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01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:24,560
Speaker 1: like money guys that came in with Tom. I know

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01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 1: nothing about any of those individuals. Besides, I'm sure they're

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01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 1: really really rich. I'd say it can't it can only

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01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:34,640
Speaker 1: get better, because it can't get any worse. Right, what

1095
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:36,200
Speaker 1: do you do when you find yourself in a hole.

1096
01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:39,040
Speaker 1: It's John Baxter once told me, especially the teams coach

1097
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:42,080
Speaker 1: dropped the shovel. And I think that's where the Raiders, like,

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01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:44,959
Speaker 1: we just need And I give Mark credit. The Tom

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01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 1: Brady thing was his idea. This was not one of

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01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:51,520
Speaker 1: those league forced Tom Brady. Like he went out and

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01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 1: you know, like he went seeking a guy. And he

1102
01:01:57,320 --> 01:01:59,440
Speaker 1: even said it yesterday in the press conference, like I

1103
01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:02,240
Speaker 1: gave it to John Gruden ten years run football. I

1104
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:04,520
Speaker 1: don't know how to run football. I'm not my dad.

1105
01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:06,880
Speaker 1: I'm not a quote unquote football guy. I love football,

1106
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:09,400
Speaker 1: but like I want you to do it, and then

1107
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 1: Dan Snyder leaked all the emails. That was what someone

1108
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 1: told me recently that Dan Snyder was behind it now

1109
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:19,520
Speaker 1: Roger Goodell. But I don't know if that person was right,

1110
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 1: but it would make sense. And obviously Mark still to

1111
01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:25,680
Speaker 1: this day is not happy about that situation. But once

1112
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:28,320
Speaker 1: Gruden disappears, he's got to find somebody and he goes

1113
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:30,520
Speaker 1: with Tom Brady and now you just got to leave

1114
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:32,720
Speaker 1: Tom Brady spy tech Pete Carroll. Hopefully they can run

1115
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:35,120
Speaker 1: the organization. I don't know what those other guys like

1116
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:38,520
Speaker 1: that we had when I worked for the Eagles, Like

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01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:41,040
Speaker 1: on Draft day there were my I think they've I

1118
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:45,560
Speaker 1: think Jeffrey Lowry's added minority owner since but like when

1119
01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:48,960
Speaker 1: you're a minority owner, you don't really do anything besides

1120
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:51,120
Speaker 1: you get some seats at a game in a box,

1121
01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:54,760
Speaker 1: you get to come to the draft day, but you

1122
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:57,880
Speaker 1: don't like talk to Andy Reid what to do, like

1123
01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:00,280
Speaker 1: give influence on when he needs a viruses and it's

1124
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:02,760
Speaker 1: like there's one guy and ultimately that guy is still

1125
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:07,240
Speaker 1: Mark Davis. So like if he's not happy, was like

1126
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:11,480
Speaker 1: those other guys like only have so much pull on

1127
01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:15,160
Speaker 1: the organizational chart. Like you look at Facebook, Mark Zuckerberg

1128
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:18,240
Speaker 1: runs that bitch. You know, Mark Zuckerberg wants something to happen,

1129
01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:21,560
Speaker 1: It happens, and that's the way these NFL teams work.

1130
01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:24,960
Speaker 1: So even Tom Brady, now, Mark is is I think

1131
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:27,560
Speaker 1: an easy owner to deal with because he will He's

1132
01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:29,600
Speaker 1: like telling these guys, like you pick who to hire,

1133
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:33,960
Speaker 1: I'll get behind it and he'll let them influence. But ultimately,

1134
01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:36,840
Speaker 1: if Mark doesn't like something, he is the guy on

1135
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:38,720
Speaker 1: the piece of paper. We talked about this a lot

1136
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:41,400
Speaker 1: with gms and coaches, like who's the decision maker? There's

1137
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:44,400
Speaker 1: only one decision maker in every team, right, so you

1138
01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:46,800
Speaker 1: can have a million of these like this firm, these

1139
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:50,720
Speaker 1: three guys, Brady, if Mark Davis wanted to fire Pete

1140
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:56,000
Speaker 1: Carroll tomorrow, he could. Those guys could not a big fan.

1141
01:03:57,120 --> 01:03:59,640
Speaker 1: I check your takes often. Who do you think, talent

1142
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:03,800
Speaker 1: wise is the best quarterback ever? Goat Brady Mahomes. But

1143
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:06,440
Speaker 1: as a pure passer of the football, I go Marino

1144
01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 1: or Rogers? What say you yeah? I would say I didn't.

1145
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:17,720
Speaker 1: This has always been just a life philosophy. It's hard

1146
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:21,680
Speaker 1: for me to argue about like Jack Nicholas against Tiger Woods.

1147
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 1: It's like, well, I never watched Jack play, right, Dan

1148
01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:27,560
Speaker 1: Marino versus Aaron Rodgers, Well, you know, I watched Dan

1149
01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:30,240
Speaker 1: Reno play when he was really old. So it's like

1150
01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:32,680
Speaker 1: when you watch guys in their prime. I feel comfortable

1151
01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 1: talking about you name any player of the last thirty

1152
01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:38,240
Speaker 1: years because I watched them. It's hard for me, like,

1153
01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:41,160
Speaker 1: what's your take on me and Joe Green? What did

1154
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:43,960
Speaker 1: you think about Bill Walton in his prime? I don't know.

1155
01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:45,800
Speaker 1: I mean, I can YouTube, but it's not the same.

1156
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:48,760
Speaker 1: It's like you turn on television night and you watch

1157
01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:52,440
Speaker 1: Joe Kitch on Denver. You're like, holy shit, this guy's

1158
01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:58,040
Speaker 1: Steph Curry or you know Juan Soto. It's like show

1159
01:04:58,080 --> 01:05:01,000
Speaker 1: Hayo to remember show Hao Tani. How does Shoeyotanic compared

1160
01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:03,480
Speaker 1: to Mickey Mantle? So I don't know. I never saw

1161
01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:08,320
Speaker 1: Mickey Mantle. Beside. My dad actually went to lunch one time,

1162
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:10,960
Speaker 1: I think in like the eighties in Vegas with some

1163
01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:14,800
Speaker 1: business people like he's a farmer, some other farmers at

1164
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:17,240
Speaker 1: a casino and Mickey Mantle was there, and he always

1165
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 1: gave a story that Mickey Mantle had like five cocktails

1166
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:22,880
Speaker 1: down before the appetizers. Mickey Mantle could drink, which you know,

1167
01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:25,560
Speaker 1: if you were my dad's era, like growing up in

1168
01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:29,080
Speaker 1: the sixties or seventies, Mickey Mantle like fucking God. But

1169
01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:33,160
Speaker 1: I think everyone in the NFL used to say Marino.

1170
01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 1: I would say the guy that I saw the best

1171
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:38,240
Speaker 1: passer of the football for the last twenty thirty years,

1172
01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:41,080
Speaker 1: Rogers in his peak, was as good as it gets.

1173
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:44,680
Speaker 1: I heard you the other day said Spags would never

1174
01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:47,200
Speaker 1: be a Hall of Fame, would never be in the

1175
01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:49,720
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. Who do you think the best defensive

1176
01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:52,480
Speaker 1: coach of all time? Here's my rank in order from

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01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:55,360
Speaker 1: eighties till now. I know there's others, but would you

1178
01:05:55,400 --> 01:06:00,560
Speaker 1: agree or disagree? Belichick, Buddy Ryan, Marvin Lewis, Spags, Lebau,

1179
01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:07,920
Speaker 1: Wade Phillips, Monte Kiffin, Jim Johnson. I would put Belichick.

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01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:10,720
Speaker 1: You know, I think you got to remove Belichick. I

1181
01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:14,320
Speaker 1: think if you do head coaches who were defensive gurus,

1182
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:16,760
Speaker 1: it's a little harder if you just look at it

1183
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:20,800
Speaker 1: when they were defensive coordinators. Marvin Lewis for the Ravens,

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01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:26,080
Speaker 1: Belichick for the Giants, Buddy Ryan for the Bears, Spags

1185
01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:31,360
Speaker 1: for this Chiefs team, lebou for the Steelers, Monte Kiffin

1186
01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:34,240
Speaker 1: for the Tampa Jim Johnson for the Eagles. That's prett

1187
01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:38,040
Speaker 1: damn good group. Pretty hard to beat that, I would say.

1188
01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:41,880
Speaker 1: Belichick confides that he thinks, and again, this is a

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01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:45,480
Speaker 1: head coach, but and he became a head coach really,

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01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:48,360
Speaker 1: you know, he was a defensive coordinator that long. But

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01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:52,560
Speaker 1: Belichick believes that Saban is one of the one of,

1192
01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:55,360
Speaker 1: if not the greatest defensive mind ever. And the way

1193
01:06:55,440 --> 01:07:00,960
Speaker 1: his coverages of like pattern matching, it's like really geeky

1194
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:03,480
Speaker 1: football stuff. But like the shit he was doing in

1195
01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:06,520
Speaker 1: college with the athletes, I mean, it ain't random. They

1196
01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:10,840
Speaker 1: were kicking everyone's ass. Just listening to your taken in

1197
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:14,640
Speaker 1: Belichick and Reid's coaching tree, I do agree with you

1198
01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:17,600
Speaker 1: that Belichick's coaching tree doesn't hold a candle to Andy's.

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Speaker 1: But I was thinking in the Reed and Mahomes era

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01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:24,000
Speaker 1: other than Naggy limited success Trubisky to the playoffs is

1201
01:07:24,040 --> 01:07:26,880
Speaker 1: a feat but ultimately fired. There hasn't been any coaches

1202
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:30,760
Speaker 1: or coordinators that have been mentioned in the coaching circles

1203
01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:34,400
Speaker 1: or searches. I am curious what your thoughts are about that.

1204
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:36,760
Speaker 1: The only one that comes to mind is Ben of me,

1205
01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:38,640
Speaker 1: and I can't think of anyone else. Huge fan of

1206
01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:43,760
Speaker 1: the pot, I would say, uh yeah, Naggy. You know,

1207
01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:47,520
Speaker 1: Doug left during the Alex Smith era. He started a

1208
01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:49,840
Speaker 1: Kansas City with Andy, went to the Eagles, won a

1209
01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:53,080
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Like you said, Naggi made the playoffs twice.

1210
01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:56,320
Speaker 1: Mike Kafka, I think, was an up and coming star,

1211
01:07:57,080 --> 01:08:00,720
Speaker 1: left as a quarterback coach under Naggy and the Enemy

1212
01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:03,240
Speaker 1: and went to the Giants a couple of years ago

1213
01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:06,400
Speaker 1: with day Ball. I think pretty highly of Mike Kafka.

1214
01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:11,040
Speaker 1: I think one thing that changes the Chiefs dramatically is,

1215
01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:12,920
Speaker 1: you know a lot of years if you coach for

1216
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:15,720
Speaker 1: Naggie or for Andy. Think of the guys that got

1217
01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:19,160
Speaker 1: hired Ron rivera defensive guy, Spags defensive guy, Jim Harbaugh

1218
01:08:19,280 --> 01:08:24,520
Speaker 1: defense or John harbaught special teams defense right, and now Spags.

1219
01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:27,479
Speaker 1: But Spag is like, no one's gonna hire him, so

1220
01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:30,720
Speaker 1: like his most valuable asset is just not going to

1221
01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:32,680
Speaker 1: get hired, which is kind of crazy, but that's just

1222
01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:38,400
Speaker 1: the truth. So like, would anyone give Naggy another shot?

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01:08:39,360 --> 01:08:42,760
Speaker 1: I mean, well, how old is Matt Naggy forty five

1224
01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:46,200
Speaker 1: years old? I think there's a very decent chance Mattnaggy's

1225
01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:50,719
Speaker 1: a coach again, maybe a little older than that forty six. Okay,

1226
01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:54,400
Speaker 1: last one, a question for the mail bag. The narrative

1227
01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:56,680
Speaker 1: all year has been that the NFL refs and or

1228
01:08:56,800 --> 01:09:00,360
Speaker 1: Vegas are rigging it for the Chiefs. I think that

1229
01:09:00,439 --> 01:09:04,280
Speaker 1: narrative really picked up steam last month. I don't know

1230
01:09:04,320 --> 01:09:07,120
Speaker 1: if it's all year, but maybe right. I guess there

1231
01:09:07,160 --> 01:09:10,200
Speaker 1: have been some weird games. In that case, why don't

1232
01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:13,000
Speaker 1: all the non Chiefs fans bet on the Chiefs money line?

1233
01:09:13,080 --> 01:09:16,200
Speaker 1: They're seventeen and one, not counting the Broncos loss, and

1234
01:09:16,280 --> 01:09:18,559
Speaker 1: Mahomes has won eighty percent of his games of his career.

1235
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:21,000
Speaker 1: I saw staff that sixty seven percent of the public

1236
01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:24,559
Speaker 1: bet Buffalo to win the championship game, which implies that

1237
01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:27,559
Speaker 1: the NFL and sportsbook rig it for Kansas City. Curious

1238
01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:30,000
Speaker 1: to hear your thoughts, I think you have to be

1239
01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:34,000
Speaker 1: very careful, and let's use an example. I see this

1240
01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:38,880
Speaker 1: media do this a lot sometimes, people on podcasts. There's

1241
01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:42,599
Speaker 1: a lot of conversation out there about and really that's

1242
01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:46,120
Speaker 1: coming from the comments of a video that was posted, like,

1243
01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:49,479
Speaker 1: is there a lot of conversation about so and so

1244
01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:51,360
Speaker 1: or is it? Just like if I look in the

1245
01:09:51,400 --> 01:09:55,720
Speaker 1: comments of a post about whatever, you could find the

1246
01:09:55,760 --> 01:09:59,840
Speaker 1: conversation about that, And I think that happens all the time.

1247
01:10:00,479 --> 01:10:04,479
Speaker 1: I could literally find an angle on any story in America.

1248
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:09,479
Speaker 1: You name the story, pick a topic, the housing market,

1249
01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:16,880
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, trump, South Dakota, you name it, and I

1250
01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:19,840
Speaker 1: could type it in and type in an Instagram or

1251
01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:24,559
Speaker 1: Twitter post about that subject and react to the comments

1252
01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:26,719
Speaker 1: and be like, you know what people are saying about

1253
01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:30,439
Speaker 1: the water rights in South Dakota. They believe it's a

1254
01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:35,680
Speaker 1: con job, just because two people had mentioned that on

1255
01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:40,360
Speaker 1: fifteen responses to a tweet or an Instagram post. So like,

1256
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:44,080
Speaker 1: I think when everyone goes the game, I think that

1257
01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:46,679
Speaker 1: was it kind of gain scene by a couple of people,

1258
01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:49,639
Speaker 1: and then Chefter put out some stats and it just scarred,

1259
01:10:49,680 --> 01:10:53,000
Speaker 1: growing and growing and growing. Now, the reason you don't

1260
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:54,599
Speaker 1: bet the Chief's money line because a lot of their

1261
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:57,880
Speaker 1: games they're seven to ten point favorites. So it's like

1262
01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:00,880
Speaker 1: you're gonna bet one hundred bucks for a thousand bucks

1263
01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:05,519
Speaker 1: to win. I don't know thirty forty percent of your money.

1264
01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:09,120
Speaker 1: It's not rigged, of course, it's not like it's just

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Speaker 1: it's just not I don't really know what else to say,

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Speaker 1: but I hear you. I think that. I think one

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Speaker 1: of the easiest things for people to do is now

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Speaker 1: react to the reaction. And if you listen to this pod,

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Speaker 1: you know, we kind of avoid that. Sometimes that kind

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Speaker 1: of bores me, like I don't give a fuck, you

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Speaker 1: know what the reaction was. To the reaction, It's like,

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Speaker 1: and I think a lot of people in this space

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Speaker 1: it's like, you guys got no shot. It's just not

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Speaker 1: that entertaining. Now, if a story's big enough, listen, I'm

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Speaker 1: not talking about this chief's rig story, like that's that

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Speaker 1: became a legitimate story people are talking about. But I

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Speaker 1: think sometimes it's like people talk about stories that if

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Speaker 1: you're just online a lot, and let's face it, a

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Speaker 1: lot of people in the media spend a majority of

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Speaker 1: their time I'm online specifically, like on Twitter, that you

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Speaker 1: can think something's a lot bigger than it is. It's like,

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Speaker 1: it's not actually that interesting. And if you just I

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01:12:09,320 --> 01:12:12,280
Speaker 1: always do this test, like walk into a store right now,

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Speaker 1: or just walk around a bunch of people. Help go

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Speaker 1: to a golf course, go to the driving range and

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Speaker 1: just walk up to some people and they would not

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Speaker 1: even know what you're talking about. Like right now, there

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Speaker 1: was that ben Benjamin Slowick Solak, one of Bill Simmons

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Speaker 1: little minions. I guess put some tweet out. I don't guess.

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Speaker 1: I mean I saw the tweet because a bunch of

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Speaker 1: people were talking about it online that like Josh Allen

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Speaker 1: fucked up on the final play. He should have thrown

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Speaker 1: the wheel route to Khalil Shakir in the flat even

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Speaker 1: though he was under siege. Before he could even blink.

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Speaker 1: All these quarterbacks like Ryan Fitzpatrick are calling him like, bri,

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Speaker 1: what are you talking about? He had no time to

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Speaker 1: turn around. And it's like, I just think a lot

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Speaker 1: of people would think, like that's a really big story.

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Speaker 1: Like if I just did that poll right now, went

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Speaker 1: to the golf course, went to TPC Scottsdale right now,

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Speaker 1: or a bunch of dudes are there, I'm sure playing

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Speaker 1: golf and I just asked them, like, what's your take

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01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:13,080
Speaker 1: on Benjamin slow Soulak saying that Josh Allen screwed up

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01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:14,720
Speaker 1: on that final They'd be like what what are you

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01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:17,720
Speaker 1: talking about? I don't know what you're talking about, So

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01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:19,479
Speaker 1: I think we got to be I tried to be

1307
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:23,800
Speaker 1: very cognizant of that when we're gonna talk do a podcast,

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Speaker 1: because that bores me, and if it bores me, then

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Speaker 1: I think it bores you. And if I'm bored, then

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Speaker 1: it's just not gonna be a good show. Cal end

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Speaker 1: on this. Thoughts on the Texans oc opening. I'm unsure

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Speaker 1: the best candidates are and I think they need to

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01:13:36,040 --> 01:13:38,519
Speaker 1: go with someone proven. Since Dimiko is a defensive guy.

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Speaker 1: I'm skeptical about Doug or Chip Kelly. But if it

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Speaker 1: worked and has potential of being a long tenure like

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Speaker 1: Spag situation, this is a critical hire if the Texans

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Speaker 1: plan on doing something special. Is Chip Kelly being discussed

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01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:56,880
Speaker 1: as Dimiko's offensive coordinator? I I haven't that's one. But

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Speaker 1: this is a real story. But I have not seen

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Speaker 1: like a list of I haven't even seen him as

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Speaker 1: he interviewed anybody. Yeah, I don't know. Obviously he played

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Speaker 1: for those two guys. I don't know if he technically

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Speaker 1: played for Doug, but Doug was on the staff when

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Speaker 1: Andy traded for him. I the Chip Kelly thing. I

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01:14:19,360 --> 01:14:23,559
Speaker 1: know it works when you got Jeremiah Smith, you got

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01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:26,760
Speaker 1: all those talented wide receiver, the two running backs. I

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Speaker 1: just I would be very, very hesitant doing that. You

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Speaker 1: think you're beating the Ravens, you think you're beating Sean McDermott,

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Speaker 1: you think you're beating Spags. With Chip Kelly's droppinsive coordinator

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Speaker 1: in the National Football League. I know he gets to

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Speaker 1: stack the deck at Ohio State, but I would not

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Speaker 1: do that. You know, Doug, Doug's a great guy, dynamic

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Speaker 1: play caller. I would say some people would question that

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Speaker 1: at this time. Being again, I like Doug, I don't

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Speaker 1: really know who your options are. Okay, one on one,

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Speaker 1: if Jalen hurts and the Eagles win the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: can we officially say that we found the Eli Manning

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Speaker 1: to Tom Brady and the Mahome story. I mean, the

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Speaker 1: comps of the two are so similar. All time historic

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Speaker 1: quarterback in his prime that wins Super Bowls bested by

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Speaker 1: a quarterback that wasn't universally recognized as top tier. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think it depends. I think part of the Eli

1343
01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:24,720
Speaker 1: story was he made some of the craziest plays in

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Speaker 1: those two Super Bowls. You know, the throat to Manningham

1345
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Speaker 1: down the sideline, obviously, the David Tyree. He just made

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Speaker 1: so many big plays in their Super Bowl runs. I

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Speaker 1: guess Jalen definitely this year in that championship game, feels

1348
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Speaker 1: like it was harder for Eli to get there, you

1349
01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:43,640
Speaker 1: know what I mean in Jalen's two. And I'm not

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Speaker 1: trying to take away anything from Jalen. I respect him

1351
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Speaker 1: that that performance the other night was awesome. But Eli

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01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:52,519
Speaker 1: to get to the Super Bowl. The one game he

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Speaker 1: had to play Green Bay where everyone like froze their

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Speaker 1: feet off. Then he had to beat the forty nine

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Speaker 1: ers on the road against the top defense of Vick

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Speaker 1: Fangio in just a bloodbath game in the rain. And

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Speaker 1: I forget who he played in eleven in the championship.

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Speaker 1: I know he played the Cowboys, he played the he

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Speaker 1: played the Packers. I forget who they beat to get there.

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Speaker 1: But that was really impressive. I would say, yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I listen, you, you're a Super Bowl winner. That changes

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Speaker 1: your life, changes your life. There's a lot on the

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Speaker 1: line for the Chiefs in this game in terms of

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Speaker 1: just historical data points, like trying to approach like legendary status.

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Speaker 1: But if they were to lose in any dan of

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Speaker 1: the world, right, they already got three of them things,

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Speaker 1: all right, This would Nick Sirianni and Jalen Hurts would

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Speaker 1: be super Bowl champions. And like you said, you know,

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Speaker 1: looking back, like Eli Manning was, I think there'll probably

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Speaker 1: be some similarities there with Jalen I think it'd be crazy.

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Speaker 1: Like Tom Coffin, clearly good coach. Nick Sirianni is a

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Speaker 1: super Bowl champion, Like we have had some questionable quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: win it over the years. Definitely, when you know, if

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Speaker 1: you're my age, when we were like growing up, like

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Speaker 1: after the John l Way, Troy Aikman, Steve Young era,

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Speaker 1: Brett farr it then went, you know, Trent Dilfer one one,

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Speaker 1: Brad Johnson won one. I mean these guys were NFL players,

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Speaker 1: longtime starters, but not exactly Brady Manning and Drew Brees

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Speaker 1: and Aaron Rodgers. Right, But I would say most of

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Speaker 1: the coaches, you know John Gruden, yeah, Brian Billick somewhat

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Speaker 1: of an outlier coach, but there's a lot of Bill Belichick's,

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Speaker 1: Andy Reid's, you know, Bruce Arians, Mike Tomlin, John Harbaugh,

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Speaker 1: Nick Sirianni is going to be on that list with

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Speaker 1: like Jimmy Johnson, Mike Holmgren, Bill Wallas, George Seaffert, Mike Didka,

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Speaker 1: Joe Gibbs, Bill Parcells, Nick Sirianni, and the Eagles would

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01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:56,240
Speaker 1: kind of have two of them, Doug and Nick. Now Doug,

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Speaker 1: I mean, Doug's a football guy, played in the NFL

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Speaker 1: for a long time, back up far backed up Marino.

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Speaker 1: He's played in the league for a long time. Sirianni.

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Speaker 1: Let's face it, before he got the job with the Eagles,

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Speaker 1: most people had never heard of him. Listen, there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of people in the NFL who are good that

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Speaker 1: you've never heard of. I think if the Eagles win it,

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Speaker 1: it'd be much crazier that Sirianni is a Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: champ than Jalen. It would also put Howie Roseman in

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Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. He would be a general manager

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Speaker 1: of two different teams that won Super Bowls with different

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Speaker 1: coaches and different quarterbacks. I didn't do the research, but

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Speaker 1: I just thought about it the other day. The only

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Speaker 1: guy that came to mind was Ozzie Newsom, who was

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Speaker 1: the GM with Billock and Dilfer and then was the

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Speaker 1: GM with Harbaugh and Flacco. Howie, if he wins, would

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Speaker 1: be the GM with Foles and Doug and then the

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Speaker 1: GM with Sirianni and Jalen. Maybe I'm missing someone, but

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Speaker 1: I don't know. That'd be pretty nuts. Audios, everybody, have

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Speaker 1: a great day. The volume