1 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Hike and everybody on Dan Horde and thanks for downloading 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: the Bengals Booth Podcast. The I'm only human of flesh 3 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: and blood. I'm made audition as the Bengals dropped some passes, 4 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: caused the officials to drop some flags and wind up 5 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: dropping their second preseason game to the Washington football team. 6 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: Coming up, you'll hear radio replays from Friday's game, postgame 7 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:33,480 Speaker 1: comments from players and coaches, and analysis from my broadcast 8 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: partner Dave Lapham. The Bengals Booth Podcast is presented by 9 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 1: bud Light. Seltzer refreshed the game, and here's a quick 10 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: reminder that you can have the latest edition of this 11 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: podcast delivered right to your phone, tablet, or computer by 12 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: subscribing on iTunes, Stitch, your Google Play, Spotify, or pod Bean. 13 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: It's the greatest thing since Joey Vado. I hosted a 14 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: talk show about a month ago and said something that 15 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: didn't seem very controversial at the time. Nobody called in 16 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:04,039 Speaker 1: to argue, and listeners might have even thought I didn't 17 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: go far enough. I said that Joey Vado, at the 18 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:09,680 Speaker 1: age of thirty seven, was a middle of the pack 19 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 1: hitter among Major League Baseball first baseman, and that's what 20 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: he was going to be over the final two years 21 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: of his ten year, two hundred and twenty five million 22 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: dollar contract. I am happy to admit that the Reds 23 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: first baseman has not only forced me to eat a 24 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: heaping portion of crow, but he's forced me to reconsider 25 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: what he can still be in his late thirties and 26 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 1: early forties. As I record this podcast, Vado has hit 27 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: sixteen home runs in his last ninety one at bats. 28 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: That's a home run every five and a half times up. 29 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 1: And despite missing twenty eight games earlier this season with 30 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,479 Speaker 1: a broken thumb, he's now in a pace to hit 31 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: thirty six homers and drive in one hundred five runs 32 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: this season. Every Vado at bat has become must watch TV. 33 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: I think most of us assume that while his best 34 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: days were behind him, Joey could still somewhat productive at 35 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 1: the end of his career because he would at least 36 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: continue to get on base. Now, he looks like he 37 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 1: can still be one of the game's best sluggers. Joey 38 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: Vado's career ops that's on base percentage plus slugging average 39 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: ranks ahead of Hank Aaron Frank Robinson and Albert Poohole's, 40 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: among others. He's basically Wade Boggs with power, and like Boggs, 41 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: Joey Vado is going to wind up in Cooperstown. Now, 42 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 1: let's get to football and last week's win over Tampa Bay, 43 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: the Bengals starting defense was only on the field for 44 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 1: one series, sacking Tom Brady and forcing a punt. On 45 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: Friday in Washington, the starting defense was on the field 46 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: for three series. The first ended with a punt, the 47 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:49,799 Speaker 1: second ended with a fourth down stop near the red zone, 48 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:53,639 Speaker 1: and the third ended with a takeaway. It's third down 49 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 1: in fourteen Fitzpatrick back to throw, has plenty of time 50 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 1: whistles won over the middle that catches made, but it's 51 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: short of the first down. Bengals picked up the ball 52 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: at the end of the play. We'll see if it's 53 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: a fumble or if the receiver was down before the 54 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: ball came out. Bengals are pointing like it's their ball 55 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: and the officials are going to confer. Sure enough, Logan 56 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: Wilson punched the ball out and Mike Hilton recovered the fumble. 57 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 1: Forcing turnovers is critical, but another stat is even more important. 58 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 1: To Zach Taylor zero points. You know, that's the one 59 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:27,799 Speaker 1: that matters, you know, two games and Rosier points that 60 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: that's all I really care about. The fumble recovery led 61 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 1: to a short field goal by Evan McPherson, but that 62 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: was it for the Bengals offense in the first half. 63 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: There were penalties, there were lousy throws, and there were 64 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: drops by Jamar Chase. In fact, he dropped all three 65 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: passes that were thrown his way. Here are Zach Taylor 66 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: and Brandon Allen. We just expect our siperscutt the ball. 67 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: It's as simple as that, you know. I don't attribute 68 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: to any rhythm the balls coming at chup, catch it, 69 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: and that's what we need to improvement from. He's a 70 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: good player, and he's still getting his feet well with 71 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: the game experience in the NFL and all that. And 72 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: I think, you know, I've seen him make some unbelievable 73 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: plays in practice and that'll translate it will He'll make 74 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: the He'll make the easy ones, and he'll make some 75 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: spectactic ones as well. So I'm not worried about him. 76 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: I know he I know what he can do and 77 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: what he will do once he gets going. The Bengals 78 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: trailed six three at the half before finally showing some 79 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 1: life on their opening drive of a third quarter shotgun snap. 80 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: Alan's throw back, shoulder throw, juggling, leaping catch penalty flags 81 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: are down on both sides of the field. Aud and 82 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 1: Tate went right over the defender to make that grip. 83 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 1: Audum Tate's eighteen yard catch on third and five was 84 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 1: the Bengals' first third down conversion in seven tries. A 85 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: few plays later, they faced third and six. Alan waits 86 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: for the shotgun snap, catches the ball from Hill, looks 87 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 1: to throw his pass a slat caught by trend Irwin 88 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: inside the ten. Inside the five has the ball punched 89 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: out from behind, and Washington recovers at the one yard line, 90 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: David Mayo falling on the ball. It looked like the 91 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: Bengals are going to have it first in goal inside 92 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: the five and Trenton Irwin had had punched out at 93 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: the four. There are two penalty flags near the goal line, 94 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: and the first one came out at the point of 95 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 1: contact where that ball was knocked away from Irwin. The 96 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:27,039 Speaker 1: penalty was unnecessary roughness for a helmet to helmet hit 97 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: by former UC Bearcat Derek Forrest. Here's Trenton Irwin. You know, 98 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: it was a blessing that there was a foul there, 99 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: but I mean I got to hold on the ball. 100 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: I was just I was excited to get an end 101 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: zone there. But it all worked out, got the touch 102 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,119 Speaker 1: down on the end it came I'm the next play, 103 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: Allan lines up under center, he runs a quarterback sneak, 104 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: gets shoved from behind, and it's a touchdown for the 105 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: Bengals as Brandon Allen scores on a one yard quarterback 106 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: sneak and Cincinnati has the lead in the third quarter. 107 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: That made it ten six Bengals. But that was one 108 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: of only two rives all night where Cincinnati had more 109 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: than one first down out of rhythm. You know that 110 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: that's the key thing for me. You know, early on 111 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: we had a penalty on the first play the game 112 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 1: that set us back, and then they just played some 113 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: man coverage. On critical downs, you gotta thrown catch, and 114 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 1: when you don't thrown catch, I think we had some 115 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 1: opportunities that were there, and you're out there on three 116 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 1: and out, so again we don't convert those third down 117 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 1: It's hard to get into a rhythm and get a 118 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: chance to do a lot of things that we wanted 119 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 1: to do on the call sheet, and that was unfortunate. 120 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 1: That was frustrating. Those are things that we're gonna have 121 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 1: to correct when we get home. Too many drops really 122 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: in the game as well, that was frustrating as well. 123 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: And then late in the game, just too many penalties. 124 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: You know, there was a driver, we had a fall start, 125 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: we had an legal formation, we had a holding, we 126 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 1: had a snap on the wrong cadence, and we had 127 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 1: a fumble on the same play which they turned into 128 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: seven points. And so that's just the stuff that that 129 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: leaves us bad taste your mouth. And the snap on 130 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 1: the wrong cadence turned out to be the key play 131 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: of the game. With a ten nine lead in the 132 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: fourth quarter, rookie tray Hill snapped the ball while the 133 00:06:56,480 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: other four offensive linemen stood there like statues shot gun 134 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: snap Shermer in trouble, manages to avoid a hit, but 135 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 1: now he's brought down. Paul pops out. You know, it 136 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 1: looks like Washington recovers. That led to a one yard 137 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: touchdown run by Jared Patterson plus a two point conversion 138 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: that gave the football team a seventeen ten lead. Fourth 139 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: Team quarterback Eric Dungee saw his first action in the 140 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: Bengals uniform and drove the team within the long field 141 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: goal range of McPherson from the right house. Huber with 142 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: a put down. McPherson with the kick length is not 143 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: a problem, and the kick is good as he hammers 144 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: one home from fifty yards away, taking another big step 145 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: toward winning the kicking job as a Bengals rookie. But 146 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: that was Cincinnati's last hurrah as Washington held on for 147 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: a seventeen thirteen win. Here's Allan on a rough night 148 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: on offense. I mean it starts with me not being 149 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: accurate with a lot of those passes, a lot of 150 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: contested plays that I can put the ball in a 151 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: lot better aitions for the guys to at least make 152 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: a play on. I think I sailed at least two 153 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: out of bounds that I can think of on top 154 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: of my head that I can easily put those either 155 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: back shoulder, at least give a guy a chance to 156 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: make a play for me. So a lot of that 157 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: starts to maybe being more consistent in getting them catchable balls. 158 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: And yeah, it was just tough to find a rhythm 159 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: after that. I called Friday's game on the radio with 160 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: a good friend and a great broadcaster, the voice of 161 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: the Ohio State Buckeyes, Paul Keels. Dave Lapham had to 162 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: miss the game due to NFL COVID protocols. Lap watched 163 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 1: it on TV and join me for some postgame analysis. 164 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 1: How concerned should we be about Jamar Chase's drops. It's 165 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 1: something that went from the practice field to the playing field, 166 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: you know. That's that's the thing. It's like, yeah, man, 167 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 1: now it's happen. That has to be broken. There's no 168 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 1: question about that, and I think it can be. I 169 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:55,959 Speaker 1: think that it's a you know, just focus on the details, 170 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:59,199 Speaker 1: the final points, you know. And to have three of them, though, 171 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,959 Speaker 1: three fur down balls that could have extended drives and 172 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: to go over is not a very good thing in 173 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 1: a very short time frame. Yeah, I'm worried that it 174 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: gets in his head a little bit. And the thing 175 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,439 Speaker 1: I will say for Jamar Chases, I don't remember ever 176 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:14,839 Speaker 1: seeing a receiver, whether it's the fifth pick in the 177 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: draft or an undrafted free agent from a tiny college, 178 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: spend more time after practice catching balls off a jugs machine. 179 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: So it's not a matter of not putting in the work. 180 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 1: I mean, this guy is incredibly dedicated, and I'm really 181 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 1: confident that he'll come out of it. I just hope 182 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 1: it's soon. I agree Dan, and I think the other 183 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: thing about him is he's extremely coachable. I mean, Coach 184 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 1: Walter's he's a sponge. Everything to Coach Walters is saying 185 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: he's taken in. It's not like he's, you know, shunning 186 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: coaching and you know, the other veteran receivers when they 187 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:54,199 Speaker 1: talk to him, he seems to be willing to listen 188 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 1: to everybody. So maybe he's just in a little bit 189 00:09:57,559 --> 00:09:59,559 Speaker 1: of a slump. I don't know if he's ever had 190 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: this issue before. Obviously he and Joe Burrow haven't experienced this. 191 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: When here at LSU, it didn't seem to have drops, 192 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:11,079 Speaker 1: did not seem to be a problem back then, So 193 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: hopefully they'll they'll get remedied. Here it seemed like the opposite. 194 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: I mean, the reputation at LSU is unbelievably strong. Hands 195 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: there was no track record of the drop season there, 196 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: So again, hopefully this is a rookie who missed a year, 197 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: who's thinking about it a little bit too much, and 198 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: hopefully after a couple of good catches under game conditions. 199 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:37,839 Speaker 1: That will be something we'll laugh about eventually. Yeah, I 200 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 1: think sometimes, you know, one happens, you start to press, 201 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: then the second one you press more, you know. And 202 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: I think the best thing that happened was he was 203 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: done for the night, you know, in the early stages 204 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 1: of the football game. And I'm sure he was. He 205 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: probably had a long night the rest of the night 206 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: thinking about it, and I'm sure coach was talking to 207 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 1: him about a Teammates were trying to encourage them and 208 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: the best thing is now just to go back to work, 209 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: put it behind them, and get onto the next preseason 210 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:11,839 Speaker 1: game against the Miami Dolphins. So let's talk O line. 211 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: The starting guards in Washington or quintin Spain on the 212 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: left side, Xavier Sue of Philo on the right side. 213 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,959 Speaker 1: So they went with the Vets. Those guys the first 214 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: team unit on the O line, only in for eleven snaps. 215 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 1: The offense wasn't very productive, but it's kind of hard 216 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: to fault the O line when you've got drops and 217 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: penalties killing drives. Yeah, and I guess the harbinger of 218 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,319 Speaker 1: things to come was the very first play of the game. 219 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: You know, they bust Joe Mixon for sixteen seventeen yards 220 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: on the screen in Quentin, Spain is called for a 221 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 1: hold in space out there, and so that negated that play. 222 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: And it seemed like whenever they would get a trunk 223 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: play of some sort, just to kind of get them 224 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,199 Speaker 1: off to schnide a little bit, a penalty were to occur, 225 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 1: be an illegal formation and then and then the penalties 226 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:01,319 Speaker 1: that you don't want to have a you have a 227 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 1: veteran player that's highly respected, Riley Reith, you know, just 228 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: false starts stuff, so that the mental the mental mistakes, 229 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 1: the physical things, holding penalties, things that nature are going 230 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: to happen. Guys are gonna get themselves in bad position 231 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 1: and uh, and then you know the technique is going 232 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: to be compromised. But the mental errors not lining up properly, 233 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: you know, not remembering the snap count, the fumble that occurred, 234 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 1: I mean that was that was with Schremer. That was 235 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 1: basically the center of Hill. Trey Hill snapped the ball 236 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 1: account early, he forgot the snap count. Here comes the 237 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: pass rush, and you know, the whole thing's an aborted 238 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 1: play at that point. Then it's compounded by the fact 239 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: that Schremer doesn't exercise ball security, But I mean that 240 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: two guys the battery, the center on the quarterback are 241 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 1: two guys that cannot forget the snap count. I'm telling you. 242 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:51,559 Speaker 1: It causes major issues. And they're the two that are 243 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: handling the football, so they have to be very very 244 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: precise with respect to the snap count. And that was 245 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: a tragedy that occurred. So it just seems like the 246 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: focus overall just just wasn't there for whatever reason. They 247 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 1: were just just to tick off in terms of, you know, 248 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 1: being able to ca hone in on what was going 249 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 1: on that particular night. Going back to the Bengals first 250 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 1: offensive play, did Quentin Spain hold there? In your opinion? 251 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 1: You know, technically he had the hands inside the framework, 252 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: you know, and he grabbed the shoulder pad. The thing 253 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: is when cloth stretches, officials are going to throw the flag, 254 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 1: So you just have to be aware of letting go, 255 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 1: you know. I mean, it's one of it's it's one 256 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:36,199 Speaker 1: of those things where if you employ that technique and 257 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 1: a pass rush where you know there you were treating 258 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: they're coming up the football field, It's it's a little 259 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 1: bit different than if you're in space and running laterally, 260 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:48,719 Speaker 1: and he's faster, and he starts to pull away, and you, 261 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: you know, you retard his ability to run by by 262 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 1: grabbing even if visiting the framework. I thought, boy, that's 263 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:59,199 Speaker 1: a little ticky tack. But then when I saw a 264 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 1: different angle, he played the one that I thought the 265 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 1: official was looking at. I can see why the official 266 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 1: through the flag, but it was it egregious No, but 267 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: can it be called? Yeah? And it was. I think 268 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: Brandon Allen, by and large has had a very solid camp. 269 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: I didn't think he was very good in Washington. There 270 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: was a third down pass for t Higgins where he 271 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: was open early in the game. He missed him way 272 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 1: too high. Later, Trent and Irwin was open for which 273 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: should have been a third down conversion, missed him wide. 274 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 1: Even the drops by Chase a couple of those throws 275 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: weren't quite where they probably should be. It just not 276 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 1: a very good game in my opinion from Brandon Allen, 277 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: I agree. I think he fell into the category of 278 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: the entire offense. They just worn't sharp, you know, weren't 279 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: sharp physically mentally. It just they never got in a rhythm. 280 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: They never never got anything, you know, a coordinated effort. 281 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: One player was the offensive line, another play it was 282 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: a quarterback, another player was a wide receiver, and pretty 283 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: soon the damn has got holes sprouting all over the place, 284 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: and you don't have enough fingers to plug up all 285 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 1: the holes. So you just have that kind of performance 286 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: and hopefully it's a it's a one time thing, and 287 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: it happened in the preseason and they can get over 288 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: it move on. But it just there really really was 289 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 1: never any synchronization of all three phases, you know, in 290 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: terms of position groups quarterback, offensive line, running back, receivers, 291 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: four phase. It's just it just it was disjointed. There's 292 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: no question about it. All. Right, let's turn to defense. 293 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 1: It's been great at practice and in the first two 294 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: preseason games, particularly the first teamers on defense have been outstanding. 295 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: They really have dan I mean, you look at it 296 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 1: in the first six quarters of of preseason football, giving 297 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 1: up a grand total they gave up the grand total 298 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: of four field goals, you know, and so that's number ones, 299 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: weren't that's ones and twos. I mean, they just they 300 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: really played very well. They gave up their first play 301 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: of twenty yards more in the first play of the 302 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: game because there was a brain cramp in terms of coverage, 303 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 1: and there was a there was a free free runner 304 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: tight end Thomas was running wide open and took a 305 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: five yard pass to a twenty six twenty seven yard 306 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: play whatever it was. But after that, they went back 307 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 1: to playing the type of defense that they they'd been 308 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 1: playing and uh and and really faced some adversity. I mean, 309 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: you know, they have a great stop on fourth down, 310 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: oj Ogan Joby, I should say, um shows himself well 311 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: and that fourth down play and you know, you think, 312 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: boy that that that could be a spark for the offense. 313 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: What does the offense do one, two, three and out? 314 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: So you know, they don't answer with any kind of 315 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: a you know, they just didn't respond whatsoever. It wasn't 316 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: complimentary football, um, But you know, the takeaway by Wilson 317 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: was good guys. Guys that had been playing well in 318 00:16:57,080 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: the first preseeing game continued in the second. Arrius Hodge, 319 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 1: Jalen Davis camp sample flashed and he's got that dinged 320 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: up shoulder. But it's encouraging to see, you know, the 321 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 1: same guys like you mentioned Trent Irwin. You know, he 322 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:14,400 Speaker 1: made some plays for the second game in a row. 323 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: Jockos Patrick made some plays for the second game in 324 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 1: a row. Some of these young defensive players two games 325 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 1: in a row. So now they're they're not only stacking practices, 326 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 1: they're starting to stack games a little bit, which is 327 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: a good sign. I'm getting pretty excited about Darius Hodge. 328 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 1: Then I look at the roster situation on the defensive 329 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 1: line and I'm like, well, how does he make the 330 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 1: fifty three. It's it might take an injury. They would 331 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: certainly keep him on the practice squad, There's no question 332 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 1: about that. But he's proving to be a pretty intriguing 333 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: pass rusher, and given the opportunity, I agree. I think. 334 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 1: I think this kid, this kid's got something. Man, he's 335 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 1: got some explosive this He's got some juice. The thing is, 336 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: he did and I couldn't really see how many special 337 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: teams snaps that he was part of. He didn't. He 338 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:03,919 Speaker 1: wasn't part of any in the first preseason game. And 339 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 1: I think that Darren Simmons was thinking about how am 340 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 1: I going to get him involved in special teams because well, 341 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: that's a very specialized thing to just be a switch 342 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 1: situational edge rusher and not be able to give you 343 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: anything else in terms of snaps, I'm not talking about 344 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: making the fifty three. I'm talking about being active on 345 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: game day. So it's going to be interesting to see 346 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: if Darren Simmons starts to incorporate him a little bit more, 347 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 1: maybe in special teams against the Miami Dolphins and make 348 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 1: that part of the evaluation process. Speaking of special teams, 349 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 1: Evan McPherson took another step toward winning the kicking job 350 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 1: the fifty yard or late in the game that sword 351 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: passed the goalpost from fifty yards away, telling you, Dan, 352 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: dude's got dynamite caps in his toe. It's unbelievable. That 353 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 1: thing explodes off that toe. And he does. He kicks 354 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 1: the ball straight. I mean he doesn't have you don't 355 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 1: You don't see his ball, you know, fading or hooking 356 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: or anything. And he kicks. He kicks a very straight ball. 357 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 1: And when you're dealing with some potentially you know, bad 358 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: weather conditions in terms of wind and things like that. 359 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 1: Being knowing that boy I not only have to play 360 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 1: factor in the wind here, I have a natural draw, 361 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 1: I have a natural fade or whatever. Those kind of 362 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 1: things can be a little bit of an issue. He 363 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: cranks it straight as an arrow and I mean high. 364 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: Like you said, boy, he just that thing was just 365 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,679 Speaker 1: a majestic looking shot. You know. He got it up 366 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: there quickly and it cleared. It would have been good 367 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: from between fifty five and sixty easily. It hit halfway 368 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 1: up the net. Was crazy. Almost a memorable night for Marcus. 369 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: Bailey almost had two interceptions. He had one briefly that 370 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: got reversed on replay and then he almost had another 371 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 1: one earlier than that. He's been having a good camping 372 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 1: and that was almost his breakout of preseason game. Yeah, 373 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: he was. He was around the football, and that's another thing. 374 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: I think he's a he's an example of the defense 375 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: that he's running to the ball, he's hustling and defense defensively, 376 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: they've gotten their hands on quite a few footballs and 377 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: just you know, eight quarters of football. Louanna Room and 378 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 1: all the coaches have to be excited about that. And 379 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: he obviously will be a big contributor special teams for 380 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: Darren Simmons with the athleticism that he has and he 381 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: has shown so I think that he's had a very 382 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 1: very solid camp. I can remember, you know, multiple times 383 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 1: during practices us looking at each other. You know, hey, boy, 384 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 1: Bailey made another play. Bailey made another play. It's not like, boy, 385 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: how's this happening in games because he hasn't been doing 386 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 1: it on the practice field. He has so a ton 387 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 1: of snaps for the second string offensive line in this game, 388 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:55,479 Speaker 1: Isaiah Prince left tackle, Michael Jordan left guard, Trey Hills, center, 389 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: Jackson Carmen right guard. Fred Johnson is in right tackle. 390 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: Anybody catch your eye or did that unit stand out 391 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 1: in any way to you? I thought Trey Hill didn't 392 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: play anywhere near at the level that he played at 393 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 1: in preseason game number one in this preseason game, not 394 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: just the the ill advised snap in the ball early 395 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 1: in the snap count, but he had he had other problems, 396 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 1: you know, at the line of scrimmage, and uh, you know, 397 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: Fred had a typical first outing. There were some positives, 398 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 1: but then you know there were some head scratchers as well, 399 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 1: and that that was the situation up and down the 400 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage of those guys. Um, you know, it's 401 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:40,159 Speaker 1: they all show the ability to do it. When you 402 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 1: look at snaps, none other snaps, It's like, where did 403 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:46,360 Speaker 1: that come from? So those have to be eliminated or minimized. 404 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying you're not gonna be perfect every snap, 405 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 1: but you can't, you know, you just you just can't 406 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 1: fall off a cliff almost from a from an execution standpoint. Um, 407 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 1: you know it's like, well then then coaches to wonder 408 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 1: can I trust you? And when is that they start 409 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 1: flinching and cringing on the sideline something bad. Uh, it's 410 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 1: due So and so's due for one of those brain 411 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 1: cramps or one of those play that comes out of 412 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 1: nowhere and you start to start to flinch about it 413 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 1: a little bit, and coaches aren't comfortable at that. So 414 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:23,400 Speaker 1: until until that gets a self sorted out where everybody 415 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 1: is and you know, it's it's impossible. They're not going 416 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 1: to be five robots up there that are going to 417 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: be controlled by Frank Pollock with a joystick or anything 418 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 1: like that. But um, you know they do have to 419 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 1: exhibit more consistency and uh and avoid the train wrecks. 420 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: So one preseason game left next Sunday afternoon at home 421 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: against Miami Dolphins. And the big question this week we'll 422 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 1: involve Joe Burrow. Will he get to play in that game? 423 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 1: We know the risk. We know the reason why he 424 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 1: wouldn't play. Can you articulate what the benefits would be 425 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 1: to get think Joe Burrow his wish and throwing him 426 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: out there for a few snaps. I think you know, 427 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: there are a few boxes left to check. He hasn't 428 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 1: been on the football field since the injury, in a 429 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: game condition in the huddle, looking at his teammates and 430 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: getting the call from Zach Taylor in his headset and 431 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: then you know, communicating that to everybody break the huddle 432 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 1: to get up to the lines. Just to be in 433 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: that environment again is a box that can be checked. 434 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:31,120 Speaker 1: And I remember the juice down there in Tampa when 435 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 1: the Goat went out there for that series. I mean, 436 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: the place was excited. The last time they'd all been 437 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 1: together was a Super Bowl victory, and how sweet is that? 438 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 1: And then when the Goat ran out there after winning 439 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 1: a seventh Super Bowl, everybody went knots. I mean, the 440 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,360 Speaker 1: energy was pretty good, and I thought the Bengals really 441 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 1: responded that on the road. That was exciting to see 442 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 1: the Bengals kind of respond to that type of scenario. 443 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: But I think what about the fan base here and Cincinnati. 444 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow Trot's out there for the first year he's 445 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 1: a place, will be off the hook. It'll be great. 446 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 1: And uh so, you know, to do that for the 447 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 1: fan base and to reward the players for you know, okay, 448 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 1: last preseason game, you've gone through a training camp. Let's 449 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 1: make it as good an environment as you possibly can 450 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,719 Speaker 1: and um and then there are you know, there are 451 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 1: things you can do if you decide to do that. 452 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:23,439 Speaker 1: It makes sure that Joe's not tested whatsoever physically. If 453 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 1: you are fearful of that situation and hand the ball 454 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 1: off a couple of times and throw a screen past 455 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 1: to Joe Mixon and be very careful, and you don't 456 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 1: want to go three and out, that's for sure. But 457 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 1: you don't want to have a seven play drive where 458 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 1: you've got him taken a three or five step or 459 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 1: seven step drop whatever in the shotgun and pockets closing 460 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: around him and necessarily taking a hit. But I think, honestly, 461 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 1: I think Joe might even not be against that, honestly, 462 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 1: although probably the organization and the coaches might be. But 463 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: that would be the final check box to be checked 464 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 1: is get hit and go to the ground, get up, 465 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 1: thush yourself off, yep, good and surgery held up. Everything's good, 466 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 1: Let's go play. So it'll be interesting to see. I 467 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,679 Speaker 1: don't think if Joe's out there, he won't be out 468 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,880 Speaker 1: there very long. And if they do go on multiplay 469 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: extended drive, I'm not sure you'll see him for that 470 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,879 Speaker 1: entire drive. You know, he may he may come out 471 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 1: during the course of that drive. It may be, you know, 472 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: just a cameo appearance with a curtain call and let 473 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 1: the fans go nuts again. It also might be the 474 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:33,199 Speaker 1: first situation in football history where the quarterback lines up 475 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 1: in the shotgun twenty seven yards behind the center have 476 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: to have a howards the shotgun staff, Gray Hawkins is 477 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 1: going to have to fire that thing about half a 478 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: football field. That's hilarious. They'll line up in like a pistol. 479 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 1: They'll snap it to somebody else who then relays it 480 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 1: backward to Joe and then he hands it off. Yeah, 481 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:56,879 Speaker 1: they have a little little tier of like four players 482 00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:00,360 Speaker 1: just keep pitching it back to him. Well. I still 483 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 1: have mixed feelings as to whether I want to see 484 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow play against the Miami Dolphins, but I do 485 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 1: want to see Dave Lapham to my right, in the 486 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 1: broadcast booth. Hopefully NFL protocols allow you to be back 487 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 1: behind the mic this week. If it's not this week, 488 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: it'll certainly be the game after that. But we missed 489 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:20,160 Speaker 1: you badly in Washington and looking forward to being back 490 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 1: together in the booth hopefully this week. Oh same here, Dan, 491 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,880 Speaker 1: listen to you and Paul and you guys are you guys? 492 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:30,640 Speaker 1: Are both You talked about some Dulsted tones. Man, you've 493 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 1: talked about unbelievable radio voices, and that was like, Wow, 494 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 1: this is like radio heaven. Dan Horde and Paul Keels 495 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 1: listening to these guys. Man, you guys did a great job. 496 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 1: And you know pros pros, There's no question about it. 497 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,159 Speaker 1: And boy, I really missed it. I really missed being 498 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 1: there in the booth with you. And I was thinking 499 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 1: about it that the first time or the last time 500 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 1: before this, and I watched the Bengals on TV where 501 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:01,160 Speaker 1: I wasn't on another you know, I simon covering another 502 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,120 Speaker 1: football game or whatever, where I was actually at home 503 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 1: watching the Bengals play on TV. Was nineteen eighty five. Um, 504 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 1: that was that was the the after the USFL season 505 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty eighty four. Um, that's that fall season. 506 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 1: I went to games with my son and then watch 507 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 1: games on TV when they're on the road. That's the 508 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: that's the last time I watched the Bengals on television. 509 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: And uh started doing the games in the eighty six 510 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 1: and haven't watched the Bengals game on television since then 511 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 1: until until this one against the Washington football team. And man, 512 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 1: it felt weird. I can tell you that weird. Well, 513 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: thirty six years from now, we'll let you miss another one. 514 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 1: Another one. Yeah, oh boy, yeah that thirty six years 515 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,719 Speaker 1: from now. Man, I can't even I can't even think 516 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:57,360 Speaker 1: about that. All right, Well, appreciate your time, see you soon. 517 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 1: Thanks for the info. Appreciate you, Dan. You best. That's 518 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 1: going to do it for this episode of the Bengals 519 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 1: Booth podcast, brought to you by Bud Light Seltzer. It's 520 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 1: light and refreshing with a hint of fruit flavor. If 521 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: you haven't done so already, please subscribe and if you 522 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 1: have a minute, give it a rating or share a 523 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:18,160 Speaker 1: comment that helps more Bengals fans find this podcast. I'm 524 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 1: Dan Horde, and thank you for listening to the Bengals 525 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:22,160 Speaker 1: boot Podcast.