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Speaker 1: I want you to imagine something. I want you to

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Speaker 1: imagine an Olympic sized swimming pool, no deep end or on,

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Speaker 1: Have you now redefined stress apprehension? Are you hyper hyper

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Speaker 1: People ask me all the time, because I'm such a

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Speaker 1: Are all the stories that never get told and how

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Speaker 1: they ended? And this is what I mean. You have

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Speaker 1: in the USS Indianapolis was a cruiser, not a destroyer,

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Speaker 1: not a battleship, not an aircraft carrier or a cruiser.

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Speaker 1: A Japanese kamikaze is simply a Japanese pilot who does

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Speaker 1: There's not another way to put it. Ships have what

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Speaker 1: from your home. Torpedo number two hits the middle of

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Speaker 1: the ship. It hits the ship's magazine, and this causes

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Speaker 1: two humongous problems. One, obviously, the magazine explodes, which disintegrates

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Speaker 1: the ship. Two, we have the marines on the ship

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Speaker 1: and the officers on the ship. This happens to be

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Speaker 1: where they all sleep. Now, why does that matter a

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Speaker 1: lot for our story? Well, this is not in any

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Speaker 1: way to disparage all the incredibly brave navy dudes who

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Speaker 1: went into the water in submarines after this thing goes down.

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Speaker 1: But when you take away the ship's officers, you, as

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Speaker 1: much as I hate officers, you have taken away critical

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Speaker 1: portions of the ship's lead ship, even though the men

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Speaker 1: really really made a great showing of themselves. And when

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Speaker 1: you take away the marines on enabled vessel, I don't

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Speaker 1: care how much this offends you. You've taken away some

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Speaker 1: toughness and grit there. That's why the marines are there

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Speaker 1: protect the vessel extra hard training. These are harder men.

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Speaker 1: They just are what they're there for. Well, they all

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Speaker 1: got blown to freaking smitherines and everybody else who didn't

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Speaker 1: get blown up already. I mean, imagine the injuries you're

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Speaker 1: dealing with already, pitch black in the middle of the night,

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Speaker 1: people are burning to death, people are drowning, people are drowning,

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Speaker 1: and sometimes these dudes, I mean, just the thought of

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Speaker 1: this is unbelievable. Sometimes these dudes have to drown their

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Speaker 1: own friends on purpose. I mean, you're watching a compartment

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Speaker 1: fill up with water and you've been ordered to seal

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Speaker 1: the door so the ship doesn't sink as fast, and

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Speaker 1: your buddy's staring at you in the face, can't get

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Speaker 1: to the door, saying don't, and you slam the door.

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Speaker 1: That's not something that just takes place in the movies.

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Speaker 1: That happened. This story, as you can probably tell, means

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Speaker 1: a lot to me, because I just it means a

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Speaker 1: lot more when it's your guys. These are our guys,

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Speaker 1: and man, what a way to go. And now guys

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Speaker 1: have broken limbs, burnt limbs. Some of these guys are

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Speaker 1: burnt to a crisp. Remember the sick bay I told

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Speaker 1: you happened to be full. The sick bay tilted over,

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Speaker 1: and everybody who was strapped to a bed in the

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Speaker 1: sick bay just slipped into the ocean, tied to a bed.

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Speaker 1: And you're watching this. You're watching this. You're trying to

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Speaker 1: save friends, you're trying to save the wounded. And I

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Speaker 1: cannot speak highly enough the accounts that come after this.

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Speaker 1: I read the best book in the world on this.

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Speaker 1: It's called In Harm's Way. I need to read another

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Speaker 1: book on it. Highly recommend the book. But I mean

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Speaker 1: there's some gut wrenching stuff of these guys trying to

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Speaker 1: save each other. It took twelve minutes for this cruiser

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Speaker 1: to sink under the ocean at midnight pitch black outside.

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Speaker 1: Twelve hundred men on board. Was actually eleven hundred ninety six.

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Speaker 1: But twelve hundred men on board, only nine hundred even

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Speaker 1: make it into the ocean, because that's how many died

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Speaker 1: on the ship or went down with the ship. And

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Speaker 1: those are even estimates, because try to take in the

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Speaker 1: chaos all around you. The screaming the horror ific wounds,

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Speaker 1: trying to help this guy, and then the ship begins

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Speaker 1: to tilt up, so men who are trying to jump

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Speaker 1: off of the ship, they're landing on another part of

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Speaker 1: the ship. There's reports of guys landing on the still

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Speaker 1: running propellers as they jump off the ship. Go ahead

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Speaker 1: and have that image in your mind. Do you think

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Speaker 1: you ever forget that image? Now we get to a

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Speaker 1: controversial part of it. Remembering Jaws when he said, no,

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Speaker 1: the stressed signal had been sent that's not true. It's

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Speaker 1: not historically accurate. They did send out an SOS, but

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Speaker 1: one of two things happened. And again we get conflicting

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Speaker 1: reports all over the place. The SOS signal was sent out.

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Speaker 1: They just don't know whether they lost power before the

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Speaker 1: signal actually went out. And what they do know is

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Speaker 1: nobody received it. I never could find out why nobody

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Speaker 1: received it. Oh anything will tell me. And everything I've

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Speaker 1: read is nobody received it. What does that mean? Did

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Speaker 1: the signal not get there? Are they not recording all

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Speaker 1: the signals? Did they have not the ability to record

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Speaker 1: the signals? Was a radio operator outside having a smoke somewhere?

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Speaker 1: These are the little things that matter a lot, a lot,

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Speaker 1: and you get into the water in the middle of

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Speaker 1: the night. You have wounded men everywhere, and this part

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Speaker 1: just floors me, just floors me. I mean, remember that

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Speaker 1: scenario at the beginning of you in the Olympic sized

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Speaker 1: swimming pool with a tiger shark underneath you. Let's do

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Speaker 1: that again, only this time let's burn out your eyeballs.

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Speaker 1: I'm not exaggerating, I'm not trying to be horrific. A

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Speaker 1: man named Stanley Lipski had his eyeballs burnt out of

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Speaker 1: his head by the time he got into the water.

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Speaker 1: This freaking legend was wounded beyond belief. And h are

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Speaker 1: Stanley Lipski had other horrific injuries that I'm going to

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Speaker 1: spare you. Let's just put it this way. He's dying

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Speaker 1: in the ocean. He knows he's dying and it's it's

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Speaker 1: not good. Turns to his friend Lou. The guy's name

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Speaker 1: is doctor Haynes. Turns to his friend Lou and says, Lou,

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Speaker 1: I'm dying. Please tell my wife I love her, I

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Speaker 1: want her to marry again. And Stanley Lipsky died there

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Speaker 1: in the ocean while the men were trying to hold

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Speaker 1: him above the water so he didn't hurt too much.

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Speaker 1: This is on day one or two. If you think

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Speaker 1: this is already bad, If you think this is already

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Speaker 1: a scene, that is just I mean, out of some

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Speaker 1: kind of horror movie. Oh, it gets worse, a lot worse.

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Speaker 1: Hang on. Jesse Kelly returns next. This is the Jesse

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Speaker 1: Kelly Show. The situation now is nine hundred or so men. Again,

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Speaker 1: we'll never know exact numbers because of the insanity of

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Speaker 1: all of it. Spread out across the water, some of

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Speaker 1: them in rafts, but not many. And when I say raft,

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Speaker 1: understand something, I'm talking about something you have to throw

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Speaker 1: together yourself in the ocean. I'll look at this floating

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Speaker 1: piece and that floating piece, some of them with life vests,

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Speaker 1: by the grace of God. And look, if you're looking

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Speaker 1: for any bright spot in this story. As luck would

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Speaker 1: have it, the ship there was a mistake and the

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Speaker 1: ship received a double supply of life vests, double the

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Speaker 1: amount it needed before they took off. They had no

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Speaker 1: idea what to do with them, so they were just

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Speaker 1: chucking them all over the place in the ship. Well,

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Speaker 1: now you've got a bunch of extra life vests floating

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Speaker 1: around the water, saving lives. So they're gathering together on

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Speaker 1: rafts as best they can. They're gathering together in groups

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Speaker 1: as best they can. But it's also important for you

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Speaker 1: to remember they are not in a pond. They're in

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Speaker 1: the ocean with waves and currents. We have injuries all

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Speaker 1: over the place. They're caring for each other as best

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Speaker 1: they can. Sometimes people are getting separated, and then as

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Speaker 1: daylight rolls around, they begin to see the sharks. Sharks

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Speaker 1: are attracted to noise, thrashing, blood in the water. Do

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Speaker 1: you think there's any noise, any thrashing, or any blood

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Speaker 1: when a gigantic ten thousand ton naval vessel gets blown

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Speaker 1: out of the water and sinks. Yeah, sharks come, and

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Speaker 1: I don't mean one or two of them. The water

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Speaker 1: is warm eighty degrees. We're in the South Pacific. The

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Speaker 1: water's warm, and the sharks come. The men And now

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Speaker 1: this is hard for us to put ourselves in that

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Speaker 1: and that mindset you and I, because we live in

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Speaker 1: an era post the most influential movie of all time.

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Speaker 1: Now what am I talking about? Jaws? Do not argue

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Speaker 1: with me. There's not a more influential movie in the

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Speaker 1: history of mankind. Jaws changed the way human beings think

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Speaker 1: about sharks. This is thirty years prior to jaws being

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Speaker 1: put out there. The men are obviously aware of the

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Speaker 1: existence of sharks. It is in no way build as

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Speaker 1: some huge danger while you're in the water. To these guys,

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Speaker 1: it's never sold that way. They've never seen probably a

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Speaker 1: movie at all. I mean they had seen movies, but

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Speaker 1: very few. And they dang sure hadn't seen a movie

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Speaker 1: about a shark's sawing you and half with his teeth.

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Speaker 1: What they do start to notice is the sharks swimming

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Speaker 1: all around them because the water is clear, swimming underneath

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Speaker 1: them at all times. And what they begin to notice

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Speaker 1: and gets to be a little disconcerting, is the sharks

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Speaker 1: start to eat the men who are dead. Men are

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Speaker 1: dying in their life vests. When they die, you have

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Speaker 1: no choice that men will. It's really touching. Men will

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Speaker 1: give them some last rites as best they can and

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Speaker 1: shove them away or take their life jacket away. You

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Speaker 1: must do such a thing because supplies are limited. And

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Speaker 1: now you watch as that dead buddy of yours gets

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Speaker 1: torn apart by sharks. But here's the thing, sharks. You

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Speaker 1: Maybe you've heard of a feeding frenzy before, maybe you haven't.

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Speaker 1: When sharks start to eat like that and group up

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Speaker 1: starting to eat like that, this is not an intelligent animal.

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Speaker 1: They go crazy and start to bite at everything, including

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Speaker 1: other sharks. Feeding frenzies are famous for sharks dying. They'll

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Speaker 1: find a whale carcass or something, and they're all swarm

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Speaker 1: at and everybody's just biting everything and little sharks that

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Speaker 1: get eaten up. And then the sharks start to set

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Speaker 1: their sights on the people who are still living. At first,

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Speaker 1: they focus on the men who are by themselves. Why

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Speaker 1: is anybody by themselves? Well, for a couple different reasons,

635
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 1: and this is when the story gets extraterrible. These men

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Speaker 1: don't have food, These men don't have water, very very

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Speaker 1: very quickly, life jacket or not. Given the amount of stress,

638
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Speaker 1: the lack of nutrients in your body, you would lack

639
00:48:56,440 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 1: the physical strength to do very much at all. Sometimes

640
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 1: these men would drift away from a group and just

641
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 1: lack the strength to get back to the group. And

642
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:12,800
Speaker 1: there are these awesome stories about guys swimming out away

643
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 1: from the group to go try to grab one of

644
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 1: their buddies and drag him back in. Sometimes the men

645
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 1: would drift away from the group because they simply gave

646
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 1: up hope. There are a lot of stories, and we

647
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 1: don't like to talk about this part of war. We

648
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 1: never do, I hardly ever do, because it's awful and

649
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 1: it looks awful, and it's not something we praise, and

650
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 1: it's not something we make movies about. There are a

651
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 1: lot of stories in this story of men committing suicide

652
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 1: on purpose. Can you imagine purposely making yourself be attacked

653
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:57,319
Speaker 1: by a shark? These guys did. They knew what would

654
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:59,760
Speaker 1: happen if you left the group, and they would swim

655
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 1: away because they didn't want to live anymore, dying in

656
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:08,800
Speaker 1: the Pacific heat of sunburn and thirst and starving and fear.

657
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:12,320
Speaker 1: At some point in time, you're so tired of being scared,

658
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 1: you just wanted to end. They would swim away from

659
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:20,240
Speaker 1: the group, sometimes with their life jacket on. The sharks

660
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 1: would take them down to the bottom, and the men

661
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:26,319
Speaker 1: would be looking on in horror at their buddy. He

662
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:29,800
Speaker 1: used to be there, and what would happen The life

663
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 1: jacket their buddy was wearing would come shooting out of

664
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 1: the surface of the ocean empty. It's tough to think about, right,

665
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:48,319
Speaker 1: or you remember that story from that Greek tragedy. In

666
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 1: the beginning, the men just couldn't take the thirst anymore,

667
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:55,359
Speaker 1: and honestly, that might be worse than the sharks. You

668
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 1: don't think it is, you and I don't because we're

669
00:50:57,520 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 1: sitting here. I have a couple of waters six inches

670
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 1: away from my face right now. When's the last time

671
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:09,840
Speaker 1: you were really, really, really dehydrated. Imagine being in the

672
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 1: South Pacific for twenty four forty eight seventy two hours

673
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 1: and you're surrounded by water. Some men would simply start

674
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 1: drinking the ocean water, which will make you go crazy.

675
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,240
Speaker 1: The hydrated you're dead instant. I mean you're not dead instantly,

676
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:30,359
Speaker 1: but you're you're gone. That's it. You drink that ocean water,

677
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 1: You're done. Period, Game over, and then another one of

678
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 1: the really really ugly things. The sharks now start attacking

679
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:46,760
Speaker 1: the life rafts. Because now they've picked off all the wounded,

680
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 1: all the individuals, the sharks now start attacking the groups.

681
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 1: Men would group up in these big circles and anyone

682
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 1: on the outside of the circle would get attacked. They

683
00:51:56,320 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 1: used to have to rotate around, spend different amounts of time,

684
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:04,840
Speaker 1: and after two or three days and that kind of heat,

685
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 1: no food, no water, constant shark attack. Many of the

686
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:13,359
Speaker 1: men lost their minds. You would anyway, just physically. Your

687
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 1: body needs nutrients. And they started killing each other. They

688
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 1: say around fifty of them killed each other. What goes

689
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:34,360
Speaker 1: through your conscience the rest of your life if you

690
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 1: were one of those ones who did that, when you

691
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 1: get your mind back finally after days of this days plural,

692
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 1: by the grace of God, and there can be no

693
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 1: other way. This happened. A couple planes simply out on patrol.

694
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 1: They're just surveying things, see people in the water. They

695
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 1: dropped down and get ready to attack. There's not supposed to.

696
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 1: They're not looking for the Indianapolis at all or the crew.

697
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:27,359
Speaker 1: Nobody's looking. Hanga. Is he smarter than everyone who knows?

698
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 1: Does he think so? Yeah? The Jesse Kelly Shaw home

699
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700
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701
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Speaker 1: piece of paper, a piece of physical paper sitting in

702
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Speaker 1: a bank vault somewhere. Your home title it is a

703
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Speaker 1: digital piece of information. And because it's digital, these online

704
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Speaker 1: criminals can get their hands on it. And I have

705
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Speaker 1: some bad news for you. They can get their hands

706
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707
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Speaker 1: hands on your home title, you are going to have

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Speaker 1: a gigantic loan that you are obligated to pay back,

710
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Speaker 1: and if you don't pay it back, they will evict

711
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Speaker 1: you from that home of yours. Don't take that chance.

712
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Speaker 1: Go to hometitlelock dot com. That's home titlelock dot com

713
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:33,959
Speaker 1: used to code Jesse. When you do get that gets

714
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:50,319
Speaker 1: you thirty three days of protection. Planes dip down, they

715
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 1: see our boys in the water, see that they are

716
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:58,360
Speaker 1: our boys. And I never could get clarification on why

717
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:01,839
Speaker 1: they had supplies on these planes, but apparently they did.

718
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:04,799
Speaker 1: They had supplies to drop them and did drop them.

719
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 1: I couldn't get clarification on what the supplies were or

720
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 1: what they dropped. I'm assuming it was food and water,

721
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:14,919
Speaker 1: maybe some life jackets in case the plane went down.

722
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:17,760
Speaker 1: These these air patrols in the ocean would have definitely

723
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:20,800
Speaker 1: had life jackets, maybe even a raft or two probably

724
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:24,840
Speaker 1: actually you know what, probably almost undoubtedly a raft dropped

725
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:30,360
Speaker 1: them into the water and then obviously radioed for help.

726
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 1: Where two destroyers. Remember how I said, ships got distracted,

727
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 1: ships got pulled away from their mission all the time.

728
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 1: Two destroyers diverted and cruised on over there and picked

729
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:48,839
Speaker 1: our guys up. And they say, after one hundred hours

730
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 1: in the water, not a single one of our guys

731
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:56,880
Speaker 1: would have lasted. The next night there were only about

732
00:55:56,920 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 1: three hundred left sharks ate. The rest of our guys

733
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:08,280
Speaker 1: were in such pain, such anguish, many of them couldn't speak,

734
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 1: words wouldn't come out. Now here's the part of the

735
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:24,280
Speaker 1: story that goes from being at you know, a tough

736
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 1: story of survival and death and all this other stuff,

737
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 1: to something that really kind of grosses me out. But

738
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:37,240
Speaker 1: it is the way of it. The American public finds

739
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 1: out about all this. This is the modern era, this

740
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:43,440
Speaker 1: is nineteen forty five. You're not going to keep something

741
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 1: like this quiet. There are enough people who live, enough

742
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:50,359
Speaker 1: reports out there that people are going to find out

743
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 1: what happened in this park. It's difficult, may be difficult

744
00:56:55,600 --> 00:57:00,759
Speaker 1: to hear, but it's true. I have to sons. I've

745
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:03,840
Speaker 1: thought about what happens if they decide to do what

746
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:06,360
Speaker 1: I did and join the Marine Corps. One day what

747
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:08,759
Speaker 1: if they decide to go off to combat one day.

748
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 1: I know for a fact, because I've got your emails

749
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 1: and God bless you for them, that I have people

750
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 1: listening right now who have lost children in combat. So

751
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to pick at any scabs here, but

752
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 1: it's important to understand this is what happened when you

753
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 1: lose a child there that way, in any way, really

754
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 1: combat or not. I don't even want to imagine how

755
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 1: gut wrenching that is. It's every parent's fear. If you

756
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 1: lose them in a really, really really ugly way, being

757
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 1: torn in half by a shark kind of a way,

758
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:54,480
Speaker 1: you want to dang sure make sure that wasn't preventable.

759
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 1: And if it sounds like it should have been preventable,

760
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 1: you're going to be angry. And there were many, many,

761
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 1: many very angry parents and spouses of these young men

762
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 1: who died, and they wanted a head on a spit. Well,

763
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 1: here's the problem if you're the United States of America,

764
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 1: if you're going to start a signing blame at the

765
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 1: end of a war that has brought a country together,

766
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 1: at the end of a war that has seen you

767
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 1: celebrating army Navy, Marine Corps. Who who these guys are warriors?

768
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 1: They are the lions of America greatest generation. You think

769
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 1: we love them, now think how much they loved them men,

770
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 1: and they loved them as they should have. But the

771
00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 1: problem is, if you're finding out why this happened, why

772
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:51,479
Speaker 1: did nobody go looking for them? Why weren't they expected? Why? Why?

773
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 1: Why why why? You have to start traveling up the

774
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 1: chain of command, and you're going to start getting to

775
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 1: people in the chain of command who have been sold

776
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 1: to the American people as heroes, people like Chester Nimitz.

777
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 1: Ever heard of him? Are you gonna drag Chester Nimits

778
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 1: in front of a court martial and blame him for

779
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 1: what happened for the Indianapolis. You can't do that. You

780
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 1: just told the American public he's a lion. So they

781
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:30,440
Speaker 1: blamed it all on the captain. They blamed it all

782
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:35,920
Speaker 1: on the captain for not zigzagging, and they blamed it

783
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:42,040
Speaker 1: on the captain. And this part gets uncomfortable. They blamed

784
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 1: it on the captain for not going down with his ship.

785
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 1: I know, you know how important that can be. And

786
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 1: when he did survive, Because the captain survived, he was

787
00:59:56,400 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 1: one of the people in the rafts. And when you're

788
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:05,959
Speaker 1: a parent who hears about the fact her son got

789
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:11,200
Speaker 1: eaten alive by a shark and the captain who chose

790
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 1: not to zig zag is certainly not luxuriating. But sitting

791
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:21,240
Speaker 1: in a raft over there by your boy, there's going

792
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 1: to be some bitterness there, and there was. They blamed

793
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 1: the captain, and they blamed him so much that, I mean,

794
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:34,920
Speaker 1: this is a new level of bitterness. I don't know

795
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 1: that I've ever heard of something like this before. In

796
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:44,080
Speaker 1: military circles, for decades after the war, decades, parents would

797
01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:48,560
Speaker 1: send Christmas cards to the captain. Dan Carlin talks about

798
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 1: this in his Great Hardcore History podcast talking about the Anneapolis.

799
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 1: They send letters to the captain saying, I hope you

800
01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:00,919
Speaker 1: enjoyed your Christmas. I don't have one with my son

801
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:09,560
Speaker 1: because of you. Captain ended up committing suicide twenty years

802
01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:19,720
Speaker 1: after the war. There is tragedy in this life and

803
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 1: triumph in this life. There's bravery, cowardice, great things and

804
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 1: bad things. You're going to experience great things and you're

805
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:36,680
Speaker 1: going to experience awful things. It's just that's life, man.

806
01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 1: But there are very very few things in this life.

807
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:51,120
Speaker 1: That can cement a bitterness and hatred inside of man,

808
01:01:52,800 --> 01:02:00,600
Speaker 1: like injustice. A feeling of injustice is powerful. Whether that

809
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:07,880
Speaker 1: feeling is legitimate or not legitimate, that is a powerful,

810
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 1: powerful feeling. And the people who always get justice, the

811
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 1: people who have life laid out for them, the people

812
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:24,400
Speaker 1: who are they live with red carpets. They can easily

813
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:31,000
Speaker 1: easily fail to realize the anger, the simmering anger that

814
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:34,880
Speaker 1: can be bubbling in people who aren't getting their justice.

815
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:43,560
Speaker 1: John Lewis, that dead congressman had his fourth or fifth

816
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:47,640
Speaker 1: funeral yesterday in Atlanta. People were packed in the pews

817
01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:54,640
Speaker 1: shoulder to shoulder. The anger I'm getting from people, including

818
01:02:54,720 --> 01:03:00,680
Speaker 1: me about that is palpable. Quote these few funerals make

819
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 1: me so dang mad. She didn't say dang. My father

820
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:07,480
Speaker 1: in law retired US Navy, could only have ten people

821
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:11,120
Speaker 1: at his graveside service, and the head count included the preacher.

822
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:14,720
Speaker 1: He couldn't have an honor guard at the time. There

823
01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:19,480
Speaker 1: were no viruses in our county end quote. Quote. My

824
01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:23,640
Speaker 1: dad died in April. Had to say goodbye to him

825
01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 1: over an effing FaceTime call, couldn't get within a hundred

826
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:33,080
Speaker 1: yards of the hospital no funeral, no family grieving. End

827
01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 1: quote quote. My dad's memorial mass was supposed to be

828
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:40,400
Speaker 1: on Saturday. We're told it's not safe to have fifty

829
01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:44,320
Speaker 1: people indoors at a church that seats six hundred. He

830
01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:47,439
Speaker 1: died in May. We're not sure if he'll be able

831
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:50,920
Speaker 1: to have it in September either. Maine has four hundred

832
01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:57,120
Speaker 1: and twenty active cases statewide. End quote. You people in

833
01:03:57,280 --> 01:04:00,800
Speaker 1: power who think you can abuse us and then rub

834
01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:06,280
Speaker 1: it in our faces, you had better start being real, real, careful.

835
01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:20,120
Speaker 1: You know your house smells, don't get mad, don't get

836
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:22,200
Speaker 1: mad in my house smells too. I'm not indicting you.

837
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:24,840
Speaker 1: I'm sure you keep a clean home, but just time

838
01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 1: means you're going to acquire smells. Whether those are cooking

839
01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:32,360
Speaker 1: smells that get in your paint, your carpet, maybe their

840
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:35,960
Speaker 1: animal smells. Maybe you're a smoker, or someone else was

841
01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:41,000
Speaker 1: just living create smells. I didn't realize that my home

842
01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:44,160
Speaker 1: had a smell to it until I got my first

843
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:48,160
Speaker 1: Eden Pure Thunderstorm, the greatest air purifier I've ever owned

844
01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:50,920
Speaker 1: in my life. This thing, I had it plugged in

845
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:52,880
Speaker 1: for two hours. I came back in the room and

846
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:57,560
Speaker 1: my air smells so clean. I now owned three of them.

847
01:04:57,720 --> 01:05:00,920
Speaker 1: I'm not making that up. This thing has absolutely changed

848
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:03,120
Speaker 1: me on top of what it's done from my allergies.

849
01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:07,000
Speaker 1: Go get one, git two you like me, and get three.

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