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Speaker 1: member gar See I, joined by Nickiman and David Hellman. Uh.

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Speaker 1: what Devis is gonna do. You just get to make

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Speaker 1: I get it. Yeah, that's just me. Everyone's got different

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Speaker 1: else Cowboys Cheerleaders dot com. Welcome back to the breaks

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Speaker 1: down a little bit now that we got all the

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Speaker 1: nonsense talk out of the way in the first segment.

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Speaker 1: In this segment, we are going to talk about some

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Speaker 1: actually important some more nonsense. Got some more nonsense, all right?

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00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,480
Speaker 1: Cowboys free agency, we've seen what they've done so far,

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00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 1: and before we get to the draft talk and some

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Speaker 1: of these guys, the prospects that may be linked to

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys currently, I want to talk to you guys

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00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:32,360
Speaker 1: about just some of the holes that they've filed so

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00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 1: far through free agency and if some of those needs

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00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:41,080
Speaker 1: we know we've talked about safety, linebacker, are some of

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Speaker 1: have some of those needs changed draft? I mean not drastically,

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00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,719
Speaker 1: but a little bit of what you kind of go

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Speaker 1: into the draft thinking I do think so, I think

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00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,640
Speaker 1: I think it's changed some and not on the front end,

442
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:58,440
Speaker 1: not when you're talking about Thursday night, even maybe Friday.

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Speaker 1: But when you don't signed Jordan Lewis. Um, then you

444
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 1: go into this draft and you don't just need to

445
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,639
Speaker 1: get a cornerback in the first round. You gotta get

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Speaker 1: multiple cornerbacks and they might anyways, but you would be

447
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,879
Speaker 1: pigeonholed to get two. You gotta get one in the

448
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 1: fourth or fifth round. You gotta get another one, you know. Um,

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00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:22,920
Speaker 1: I think I think cornerback is one that they helped themselves. Um,

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00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:27,200
Speaker 1: they could go play a game with Diggs Brown. Why

451
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Speaker 1: are you looking like this? They could? They could, they could,

452
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 1: they could, But I mean, fun, but there, let me

453
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Speaker 1: finish before you that who farted? Look I didn't say

454
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:45,480
Speaker 1: sorry Diggs Brown? Um, who am missing Lewis? Those three

455
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,120
Speaker 1: and then and then you then you're gonna draft one.

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Speaker 1: But if you didn't signed Jordan Lewis, I mean you

457
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Speaker 1: might have to draft two in the first for three

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Speaker 1: or four rounds. Yeah, So I think I think. I

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Speaker 1: don't think that's good. Jordan Lewis. Signing him didn't didn't

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Speaker 1: help you didn't change the factor. You're probably gonna get

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Speaker 1: one in the first round or so, but it did

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Speaker 1: help from the standpoint of your numbers. And I think

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00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:14,399
Speaker 1: there's some other positions like that. I mean, they covered

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Speaker 1: their asses, that's what they do. But I don't think

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Speaker 1: they did anything that changes what they need to accomplish

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Speaker 1: in the draft that Like, I don't think anything they did.

467
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,160
Speaker 1: They still need a cornerback and they need to draft

468
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Speaker 1: him in the top one hundred, Like they need a

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Speaker 1: guy who's good enough to potentially start right away. You know,

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00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 1: they signed Tie and Secky, but does that make anybody

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Speaker 1: feel better about the swing tackle spot? Like, not not me,

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00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 1: not significantly anyway. Um, you know, they added a bunch

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Speaker 1: of depth on the defensive line, but those aren't guys

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Speaker 1: that you know should you Like, if if a guy's there,

475
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,119
Speaker 1: it's like, well we have we got brenn Urban, We're good.

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Speaker 1: We don't need this guy, you know, Like, no, that's

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Speaker 1: not that's not a thing. Um. I know we've talked

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Speaker 1: a lot about safety, and I know that that's not

479
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 1: necessarily a first round type of position there. But Demante

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00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 1: because he's guarantee. These are like minuscule compared to haha,

481
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 1: Clinton Dix's and how that work out. Yeah, that's my point.

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00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,399
Speaker 1: It's like, yes, that could work out really well. And

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Speaker 1: I actually I wrote a column about this last week,

484
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 1: which is, you know they're buying they're buying scratch off cards.

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Speaker 1: You know, you go to the gas station and spend

486
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Speaker 1: two fifty on or how much does a scratch off

487
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,679
Speaker 1: card cost? I don't even know, or you know, I

488
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 1: go to the I go to the gas station when

489
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,359
Speaker 1: the powerball is crazy, and I'm like, give me ten

490
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 1: dollars worth of numbers, just you know, maybe, And I

491
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 1: drive home and I'm like hell yeah, man, like this

492
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Speaker 1: parents a house? Yeah, I'm like this could be the one,

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Speaker 1: Like who's getting Like, okay, my brother can have some,

494
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 1: I'll get my parents a house, like you know, uh

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Speaker 1: quit Yeah, no, no, no, I absolutely wouldn't quit my job.

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Speaker 1: My job would be even more fun if I was

497
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Speaker 1: actually rich. Um. But then you go home in like

498
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 1: five seconds into the broadcast, you didn't win. And that's

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00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 1: what the Cowboys experience has been. Like they're like, hey,

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Speaker 1: you know this guy, this guy had seven picks two

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Speaker 1: years ago and we're only paying him like one point

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00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 1: two million, like we could strike it rich, and they could,

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00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 1: they absolutely could, but they haven't yet. It has not

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00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 1: cashed in the way they wanted to yet and they've

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00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 1: been doing it for eight years, so maybe this is

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Speaker 1: the year. But seven interceptions in three years before that

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00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 1: ten and last two years. What happened last year, which

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00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 1: and I'm not trying to I'm not trying to bash

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Speaker 1: Demante because he or any of the other guys that

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00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 1: they've signed. You know, huh, Zeke tried to bash him.

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00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 1: He didn't, well, no, Zeke didn't try. Zeke ran him over. Um.

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Speaker 1: What about the linebacker position? I mean, does that change

513
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 1: they had draft needs as far as having Kian O'Neill,

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Speaker 1: which would say the biggest signing that Keyan O'Neill is

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Speaker 1: probably my favorite signing that they've made because I know

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Speaker 1: what a good player he was, and he came back

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Speaker 1: and had a nice season last year after two years

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Speaker 1: of injuries. But it's a five million dollar deal and

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00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,680
Speaker 1: that's probably like the guarantees aren't five million, so again

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00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 1: it's one year, like you're not these are these are

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00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 1: not guys that you're looking to build around. And there

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00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 1: are guys that you're you're saying, Okay, this guy can

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Speaker 1: start for us if we need him to, but we're

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00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 1: trying to improve this in the draft. That's what they do.

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Speaker 1: And so again they've done They've done some things that

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Speaker 1: I like, like, they've made some additions that I do like,

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00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,159
Speaker 1: but they haven't done anything where I'm like, oh, I

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00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,479
Speaker 1: was worried about that last month, but I'm not anymore like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: if this, if they try to go into this season, honest, like,

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Speaker 1: they need to draft a cornerback with one of their

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Speaker 1: first two picks, because you think about what you got

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00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 1: from Digs he was picked fifty one. You think about

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Speaker 1: what you got from Cheetoh he was picked sixty like,

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00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 1: and so now you're thinking, if I want better than that,

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Speaker 1: I probably need to draft a corner number ten. I'm

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Speaker 1: picking a corner at ten, and I mean, we can

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Speaker 1: we can move into the next talk. As it stands

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Speaker 1: right now, there are very few scenarios where I would

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Speaker 1: go away from that. I'm I'm picking a cornerback at ten.

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Speaker 1: And if some reason, if certain in and and I

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Speaker 1: think I think J. C. Horne has now jumped himself

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Speaker 1: into a legitimate number ten absolutely, And if he is.

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Speaker 1: If it's eight nine for some reason it's eight nine

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Speaker 1: and those two are off the board and you're sitting

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Speaker 1: at ten, I mean that means there's an outstanding offensive

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Speaker 1: lineman there, you'd like to think, because the quarterbacks are

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00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 1: going right four four of them, maybe five. Yeah, I

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00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 1: think I was going to ask you guys that. I mean,

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00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 1: we saw it happened last year with Ceedee Lamp kind

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00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 1: of help he fell into the Cowboys lab. But um,

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00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 1: is there anyone, any player on the offensive side of

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00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 1: the ball. There we go. I don't like to talk,

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00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 1: but it could happen. Is there anyone, any name Dave

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00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 1: that could pop up that you're like, Okay, if this guy,

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00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 1: even though it's not a position of need, necessarily go

556
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 1: for it. But he's too good to love the guy?

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00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 1: How a few don't love the guy? What are you doing?

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00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 1: His name is Kyle Pitts, And I'm sure I've been

559
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 1: as excited about a draft prospect at some point in

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Speaker 1: my career, but I'm struggling to think to remember it,

561
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Speaker 1: and and I get like, it's terrible. Your eyes are

562
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 1: like in your eyes flat got the longest wingspan of

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00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 1: an offensive skill player in twenty five years. He runs

564
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Speaker 1: a four four four at six five two fifty. U

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00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 1: turn on the tape. You can in the SEC, which

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Speaker 1: most people would agree is the deepest, most talented conference

567
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 1: in college football. He's just going up there and posterizing guys,

568
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 1: jumping over two and three dbs to pull in touchdown patches.

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Speaker 1: He averaged eighteen yards per catch as a tight end.

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Speaker 1: Oh you like j C. Hornnick? Oh no, Jason, I

571
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 1: mean him, No, that's not him. But he beat j C.

572
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Speaker 1: Horn in this game. Uh. He beat Tyson Campbell and

573
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Speaker 1: Eric Stokes from Georgia, who are two of the best cornerback.

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Speaker 1: That's jac Horn number one highlight. He beat j on

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Speaker 1: a crossing round in this game. Um, he didn't beat

576
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 1: up on Patrick's ur tan so much, but he did

577
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 1: beat up on Alabama. The guy's just uncoverable. And I

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00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 1: get can tell you Ed K. Hill who used to

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Speaker 1: be who used to be running this show back in

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00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 1: the back. It's not he's not running these highlights. Is

581
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 1: he's a South Carolina guy. He's just getting abused. I mean,

582
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 1: but everybody that played this guy got abused. Yeah, I'm

583
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: glad we don't see any LSU or Arkansas. What we

584
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 1: got here? Oh? Yeah, no, who is it? That's yeah,

585
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 1: that's saying him. He didn't play against LSU, which is

586
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 1: probably a big part of the reason why Florida lost

587
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 1: that game. We know that there are certain guys that

588
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: you like or we like or whatever, but the Cowboys

589
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 1: don't necessarily aren't necessarily aligned with us most of the time.

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00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 1: But is this a guy that could attract Yes, well,

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00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 1: let's go out with what's what's being reported right now?

592
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 1: It's on the I mean, and why it's being reported

593
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 1: as it is interesting too. But I think was Chris

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Speaker 1: Mortenson from ESPN, who if you pay attention to these things,

595
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: he never really does. He never talks a lot about

596
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 1: the Cowboys other than like, you know, he talks to Jerry.

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00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 1: That's if he's reporting on the Cowboys. It's because he

598
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 1: had a conversation and it sounds like and he said

599
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 1: he told him that you know, they're enamored or he's

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00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 1: enamored by Kyle Pitts. And Jerry is a businessman here,

601
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 1: he knows he knows how to play the game. Yes,

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00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 1: he is probably enamored by and why would you not be,

603
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 1: But he also has to think get these offensive guys, quarterbacks, linemen,

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00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 1: tight ends, receivers off the board. Yeah, and there's no

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00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 1: way that if he really thinks, oh, I'm gonna go

606
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 1: get now. I think I think it's true. I think

607
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 1: Jerry really does like him. But you don't just start

608
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 1: talking to people. You just tell him how much you

609
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 1: love Yeah, if you wanted to draft Kyle Pitts, you

610
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 1: probably wouldn't say that. You wouldn't say that if that

611
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 1: was who you really wanted to wind up with, which

612
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: that's the you know, and people people get so up

613
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:02,719
Speaker 1: in arms, which I think it's so funny. Fans are like,

614
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 1: you know, all through the year, and I noticed that

615
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: with mock drafts, to everybody's like, draft the best player,

616
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 1: don't worry about the need. But then when the chips

617
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 1: are down, it's like, what on earth are you talking about?

618
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 1: We need cornerbacks. And that's mock drafts cracked me up too,

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Speaker 1: because every draft analyst always says like, just get the

620
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Speaker 1: best player, and every mock draft, you know, the little blurb,

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Speaker 1: it's like, well they need a cornerback, so that's who

622
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 1: I drafted for him. It's like the logic doesn't line up,

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00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 1: and that's I think the world of Blake Jarwin. I

624
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 1: thought he was going to have a breakout year last year.

625
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 1: I feel even more strongly about that having watched Dalton

626
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 1: Schultz do what he did. Dalton had a great season

627
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 1: as well, but he's in a contract year. Jarwin's contract

628
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 1: is structured so that, like, you can get away from

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Speaker 1: it if you need to, Like so the you know,

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Speaker 1: these are not building block players and this is a

631
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Speaker 1: generational prospect. I'm just gonna say it. This is what

632
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 1: if they draft any one on offense aside from the

633
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 1: offensive line, I'm gonna be pissed. That's just the absolute

634
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 1: wrong way to think about it. I'm sorry. I wasn't

635
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 1: pissed about see Lamb. Last year. It was like, okay, okay,

636
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 1: but this year, No, this year, after the season we

637
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 1: had last year, No, okay. You know they needed a

638
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 1: defensive end in ninety eight and they drafted Greg Allis

639
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 1: over Randy Moss. Like these are the types of conversations.

640
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: That's cool, they need I know, I know you from

641
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 1: a talent perspective, I know there was more to the

642
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 1: Randy Moss thing. Yeah, but I'm just telling you, don't

643
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 1: come crying to me in fifteen years when Kyle Pitts

644
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,399
Speaker 1: is the best player in New York Giants history. That's

645
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 1: all I'm saying. Okay, I don't think if he is

646
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 1: a generational player, like you say, and like a lot

647
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 1: of people say, he's not going to tend no, And

648
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: that's really it's kind of like the Jersey thing. It's

649
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 1: probably a moot point. I really don't think he'll be there.

650
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 1: I really don't. And so but but if he is

651
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 1: the guy you need to do. If you're a Cowboy fan,

652
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 1: you need to be pull and for Davante Smith, Mac

653
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 1: Jones and Trey Lance, maybe Jamar Chase. You know you

654
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 1: want those guys drafted because you want those quarterbacks, and

655
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 1: then those guys that's gonna give the Cowboys. Now, this

656
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 1: is what I think is interesting. If if Horn and

657
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: Certain are gone, what happens. I'm almost more intrigued about

658
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:33,280
Speaker 1: what happens if Horn and Certain are both there, because

659
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 1: I don't I don't mean, you know which one do

660
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: you take? Take? I'm saying, if enough players the Cowboys

661
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 1: love are sitting at ten, you know Jerry will be

662
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 1: on the phone. Yeah, you know they would love to

663
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 1: trade down. You just you might not have seen that happen.

664
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 1: And as if they trade down, I heard this the

665
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 1: other day and I'm just throwing it out there. If

666
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 1: the Cowboys trade down, do not be surprised if they

667
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 1: picked twice in the first round because down, and then

668
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: they got up with what they got. That would be fun.

669
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 1: I would love that, which I was gonna say, you

670
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 1: might want Trey Lance to fall to you because that's

671
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:10,839
Speaker 1: what facilitates a trade, that's what gets it going. You're

672
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: right about that. New England might want a quarterback at fifteen.

673
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 1: I don't know if you. I don't know if it

674
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 1: would be smart to trade with a division rival, But

675
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 1: maybe Washington wants to come up Chicago and Washington a quarterback.

676
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 1: I mean, it depends on the price. I would jack

677
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 1: the price up. Oh yeah, you have to. I don't

678
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 1: even know if I would do it. Then. I just like,

679
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 1: if they want like fields on the off chance that

680
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 1: he becomes a star, do you really want to be

681
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 1: the reason why your division rival found their quarterback. I

682
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 1: don't think that's a good idea. Don't think so either.

683
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: But Chicago's right behind him at twenty. Maybe Chicago, their

684
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 1: GM's about to get fired. Maybe he does something crazy

685
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 1: to get a quarterback. So if Andy Dalton they only

686
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 1: need trade up, there's a million ways this thing could go.

687
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,879
Speaker 1: And it's fascinating to think about. And if you try

688
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:57,840
Speaker 1: to keep up with all the mock drafts, they changed

689
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 1: by the day, you know, like they you know, you

690
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: you probably got a list of seven or eight eight

691
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 1: guys that have kind of been linked to the Cowboys.

692
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 1: And I know, I don't even know if Pitts was

693
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 1: on that list, but I mean Jerry talked about it,

694
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 1: but I saw one the other day, Daniel Jeremiah. He's

695
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 1: he's pretty plugged in Quity Pay quit Pay Like, yeah,

696
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 1: Michigan pass rusher, very very athletic, like bendy fast, explosive

697
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 1: like And we talked about this on the Draft show yesterday.

698
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 1: You know, spare me the taco stuff because you know,

699
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 1: they both played at Michigan. But like Quitty Pay is

700
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 1: an absurdly more athletic player, but his college production maybe

701
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,399
Speaker 1: scares you. Like I think he had four sacks last year,

702
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,839
Speaker 1: Like he didn't, you know, he wasn't this monstrous guy.

703
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 1: You would be banking on his athleticism, You would be

704
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 1: banking on him developing as he went along. Ten seems

705
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,879
Speaker 1: it's not the number for that. But if they trade back, right,

706
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 1: that's I just you know, I look at it and

707
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:55,439
Speaker 1: I say, if Patrick's r tans there, I think he's

708
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 1: your pick. Honestly, I think that's their dream scenario. J C. Horn.

709
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 1: If if that's possible, then you're probably talking about an

710
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: offensive tackle or a trade. And if you can't do that,

711
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if they drafted Michael Parsons either.

712
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 1: Let's go back to I love that actually, by the way,

713
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,919
Speaker 1: I know you love partners, I know, and I don't

714
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,399
Speaker 1: know where he fits on the board and where they'll

715
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 1: he would have to fall and get him or whatever.

716
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 1: But I think he's everything you want Jalen Smith to be.

717
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 1: That's actually I did an interview that's that's coming out

718
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 1: today with Bobby Carpenter, which against spare me the snark,

719
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,240
Speaker 1: you know, the NFL player, a great college guy who

720
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 1: is plugged into the big ten. He said, he was like,

721
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 1: if you want a comparison for Michael Parsons, it's pre

722
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 1: injury Jalen Smith, like the guy that people were hoping

723
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 1: he would be. Really that's interesting. So, um, you know,

724
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 1: going back to J. C. Horne, we showed some highlights

725
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 1: of him and you said he went up against Kyle

726
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: Pitts and as oppressive as it was for Pitts to

727
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 1: beat the cornerback and all that, which, I think he's

728
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 1: a bulky wide receiver. Um, but I love the See

729
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: that's what I love about jac Horne is I got him.

730
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 1: I got pits. Now, maybe he didn't get him all

731
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 1: the time, maybe he got beat I bet he won

732
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 1: some too, But that's what I love about him, not

733
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 1: knocking Curtan. But obviously there's five star guys all over

734
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: the line for for Alabama, there's not that many for

735
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: South Carolina. As we saw his pits just to torm

736
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 1: up the whole team. But he is He's more of

737
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 1: a dog to me, and he is a guy we

738
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 1: got some Jac Horne. Okay, I mean I think he

739
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 1: takes the best guy every time. He doesn't have a

740
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 1: lot of other guys, you know, like on defense around him.

741
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 1: He's tough. Is you know, if you love the fact

742
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 1: that Certan's dad played fifteen years in the league, jac

743
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 1: Horne's dad, Joe Horn, played ten to twelve years, pretty good.

744
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 1: Saint Bride receiver. Um so I just I just love

745
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,839
Speaker 1: I really love his game, and I think I might

746
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 1: pick him over him. Kyle Pitts said Horne was the

747
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 1: guy like he hated going up against him the most.

748
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: That was his toughest assignment this year. And I love

749
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 1: Horn because he strikes me. I feel like Horn would

750
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 1: come in here as a rookie and at mini camp, yes,

751
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 1: he would bat down a pass from Dak Prescott and

752
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,399
Speaker 1: tell Dak that he's trash, like he's that type of guy.

753
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 1: He's like he's got some like Richard shirt. I mean, no,

754
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: don't maybe not not be so good at training camp

755
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 1: because we get the sieve of what happened. You are like,

756
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,839
Speaker 1: you're so like you're so super stick. You're like, well, wait,

757
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:31,399
Speaker 1: I don't want him to be good. That means he's

758
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 1: gonna let me down. Just suck through training camp and

759
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:38,280
Speaker 1: be great during the season. You're just you're so afraid

760
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 1: to be hurt. And I love it. But we see

761
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,399
Speaker 1: it all the freaking time. It's like this, why you're

762
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,800
Speaker 1: shine during training camp and then they sucked during the season.

763
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 1: They guys who shine during training camp shine during the season.

764
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:52,439
Speaker 1: Two Like Okay, You're like Renky Robinson and not show

765
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 1: up at all at training camp and then just don't play,

766
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: just keep don Mike McCarthy mentality of keeping things secret

767
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 1: and then show up. I've never seen I know. I mean,

768
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 1: cornerbacks are important. I watched that Auburn Carolina game, and

769
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 1: I like, I've never seen a cornerback have such a

770
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 1: ridiculous impact on the outcome of a game, Like he

771
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: just terrorized bo Nix all afternoon in this game, which

772
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,879
Speaker 1: Bonnix isn't a very good quarterback. So no, there's that

773
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 1: I'd like to I'd like to mix it up a

774
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 1: little bit. I mean, I know that's the highlight package,

775
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 1: you know. Sorry, Chris, I'm just saying I like to

776
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,879
Speaker 1: mix it up. Well, here's here's another thing about highlights too.

777
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 1: And and I've learned this over the you know you

778
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 1: go YouTube highlights or somebody huddle, you know in high school.

779
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, give me the one where he's just getting beat,

780
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 1: you know, like give me where he gets paying take

781
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 1: to run over or something like. Watching tape is so much,

782
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 1: especially if you're ever fortunate enough to watch like a

783
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 1: cut up. Cutups are hilarious because like they'll put they'll

784
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 1: group all of the good plays and you're watching and

785
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:50,839
Speaker 1: you're like, this guy's going to the Hall of Fame.

786
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 1: Let's go. And then you get to the bad plays

787
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, it's organized in a certain way.

788
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: I get it now, so that's always fun. Well, let's

789
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 1: go ahead and take ours all the Auburn game. This

790
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 1: is unbelievable, Like, you're right, he played the gamesolutely, he

791
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 1: killed him dominated. I keep waiting for another highlight, but

792
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 1: I keep seeing the same game but different highlight, Like, yeah,

793
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: it was he SEC player of the week. So I

794
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: don't know, fall in love with the player. So you

795
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 1: don't get your heart broken when something happens in the

796
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 1: draft and he does not end up here. Oh, I've

797
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 1: learned a long time ago. You can't. You can't worry

798
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 1: about the draft. They're gonna you know, they're gonna pick it.

799
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,879
Speaker 1: That's why I don't really, I'm not into what Dave

800
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 1: does and Broadest did and Kyle and those guys because

801
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,399
Speaker 1: I just can't. I just can't invest. I just can't

802
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 1: invest in four hundred guys, but no one that only

803
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 1: twenty are going to be here. Oh, and I get

804
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 1: it that in three or four years they'll be free

805
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 1: agency and you learn them and all that. But I

806
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 1: just not, Oh see, I I love it. Maybe I'm

807
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 1: a hipster, but like you know, I knew. I knew

808
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:55,840
Speaker 1: Kareem Hunt was going to be a beast for the

809
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 1: Chiefs before he ever played, and he like he had

810
00:42:58,000 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 1: like one hundred and fifty yards in his first game. Like,

811
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 1: it just helps you know the league so much better.

812
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 1: You're like, oh, yeah, I remember Kenny Galladay. I like, yeah,

813
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 1: he was great coming out of school. He's just so

814
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 1: I it just helps know the league so much more.

815
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 1: Found another game one oh lsu oh here comes to

816
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 1: score in a second. Yeah, anyway, I would be I

817
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: would be tempted to draft j C. Horn over Patrick's Urtan.

818
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: And I like Patrick's Urtan, but he is a hell

819
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 1: of a player. He's physical. That's what I like about him.

820
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 1: I mean, and I know certain is Certain would would

821
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 1: be great. I just think you have to do you

822
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 1: have to take a cornerback at ten? You just you

823
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 1: have to. No, you should never know. I disagree with

824
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 1: that completely. That goes again. That's my point is, like

825
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 1: I just I think so much of Kyle Pitts that

826
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 1: if for some reason he was there, and then that's

827
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 1: when that's why you do your homework, and that's why

828
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 1: you say, Okay, we like Eric Stokes, we like Elijah

829
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 1: Molden out of Washington. Going back to your point, you

830
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 1: know they have enough capital that they could maybe trade

831
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 1: up for a guy if he fell a little bit,

832
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:05,359
Speaker 1: Greg Newsom out of Northwestern. You should never do anything. Well,

833
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 1: it's just it's hard to have that kind of mentality

834
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:11,879
Speaker 1: this year after the kind of season they had last year.

835
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:15,479
Speaker 1: And I get it. It's why you gotta peel back

836
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 1: and remove your emotion from it. Okay, Well if you

837
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 1: told me, oh, we didn't spending all our money on

838
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 1: the quarterback, and we had some a bunch of money

839
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 1: to spend on the other free agent veteran guys that

840
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Speaker 1: thank you, thank you for that. But okay, last segment,

894
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Speaker 1: and you guys kind of hinted at the whole possibility

895
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,319
Speaker 1: of training down. Nick, you mentioned trading down and then

896
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Speaker 1: training training back up. But if the cow was where

897
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 1: to trade down, how does how would that look like?

898
00:47:56,640 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 1: I mean, as far as I know, it's hard to

899
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Speaker 1: predict what who's going to be there and all that,

900
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 1: But just looking at it right now, would you guys

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Speaker 1: like that that if the Cowboys were to trade back

902
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:14,799
Speaker 1: in the right circumstance for the right price, I would

903
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:20,360
Speaker 1: love it, like, depending on what is available to them. Yeah,

904
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Speaker 1: And it is really hard to predict because everybody loves

905
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:24,439
Speaker 1: to say that and we always say like, you gotta

906
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Speaker 1: have a trade partner, you got to have a player

907
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Speaker 1: worth trading up. For that's almost always a quarterback, not always,

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Speaker 1: but almost always, so Trey Lance mac Young. If one

909
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Speaker 1: of them were to follow you at ten, or if

910
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Speaker 1: a Jamar Chase or a Kyle Pitts, just this guy

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Speaker 1: that somebody is completely obsessed with, you could maybe make

912
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 1: that work. But you need that because we've seen what

913
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 1: a trade looks like when you don't really have a partner,

914
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 1: and that's the Travis Frederick trade, which it worked out

915
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 1: because Travis was great, but they still kind of got

916
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 1: fleeced on the deal, like Floyd was there for him.

917
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 1: I think it was seventeen they were, or eighteen eighteen,

918
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:07,359
Speaker 1: you're picking eighteen, and they bailed because they didn't want

919
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:09,360
Speaker 1: to draft Sharif Floyd, which turned out to be a

920
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 1: good call, but they only got a third round pick

921
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,959
Speaker 1: for moving thirteen spots in the first round of the draft.

922
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 1: Like that's just not that's not good. And it's probably

923
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 1: not a coincidence that they shook up the way that

924
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 1: they do the draft after that happened. Yeah, so you

925
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 1: don't want to do that. You know, I'm not bailing

926
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Speaker 1: out of ten just because I'm terrified of picking somebody.

927
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 1: But if somebody's gonna really sweeten the pot. I talked

928
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 1: about this in the mailbag earlier this week, Like, if

929
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 1: Chicago wanted to offer me their next year's one to

930
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 1: jump ten spots, I would do that all day and

931
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 1: then into twenty. You'd go down to twenty in this

932
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 1: year's draft. Yeah, and then you get and I want

933
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Speaker 1: next year's one. Hopefully I could maybe even get a

934
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,439
Speaker 1: Day two pick out of it as well, like next

935
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 1: year's one and this year's three to fall back ten

936
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 1: spots and let them get their quarterback. I would do

937
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:57,760
Speaker 1: that in a heartbeat, especially if it's for a quarterback.

938
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 1: Oh no, and that's you need something but that you

939
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:03,759
Speaker 1: were capable of driving price. I say that too, or

940
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Speaker 1: having next year's number one, because if most teams are

941
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 1: not going to sit on their quarterback, they're gonna play him. Yeah,

942
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 1: and so you want to trade with the team if

943
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Speaker 1: you have their next year's number one, you want them

944
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Speaker 1: to play a rookie quarterback and that he struggles and

945
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 1: get a better pick out of it. So I would

946
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Speaker 1: do that, you know, I'm like I said, I'm not

947
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Speaker 1: doing it for the sake of it, but in the

948
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Speaker 1: right circumstance, you know, like I said, New England at

949
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 1: fifteen makes sense. I don't know if you would want

950
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Speaker 1: to trade with Washington Chicago. Those are probably in that

951
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:34,839
Speaker 1: scenario about trading next year for next year's one. You're

952
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 1: not trading back into the first round. Probably not. The

953
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Speaker 1: scenario that trades into the first round is like ten

954
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Speaker 1: to like seventeen or something like that, and then you

955
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Speaker 1: get their number two maybe something else out of it

956
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Speaker 1: ten to seventeen, you probably get a two and maybe

957
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Speaker 1: a four, and you package that pick some of that

958
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 1: with picky and yeah, I mean we see that happen

959
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 1: all the time. Somewhere between twenty seven and pick thirty two,

960
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 1: somebody in the second round. He loves to jump up

961
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 1: and get whoever it is that they covet. Again, a

962
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 1: lot of times it's a quarterback, like if a Lamar

963
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Speaker 1: Jackson falls to the end of the first round or

964
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:14,240
Speaker 1: something like that. And I know a lot of fans

965
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 1: know this, but it's worth pointing out just the difference

966
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Speaker 1: in getting a first round pick with that fifth year,

967
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Speaker 1: you have the ability to keep them for five seasons

968
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 1: instead of just four. You know, the difference between the

969
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Speaker 1: thirty second pick and the thirty third pick is tremendous,

970
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 1: And that's you know, it gets a little convoluted, but

971
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:33,319
Speaker 1: that you know, So the Cowboys have four picks in

972
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,360
Speaker 1: the top one hundred right now, and I tend you know,

973
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 1: top one hundred draft picks maybe not necessarily starters, but

974
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Speaker 1: if you're drafting in the top one hundred, you should

975
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Speaker 1: be good enough to contribute as a rookie significantly. So

976
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 1: would they have four right now? Would you rather have

977
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 1: four players in the top one hundred, four guys who

978
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 1: can come in and contribute or use some of that

979
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 1: capital to draft two guys in the first round. So

980
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 1: now instead of four top one hundred, maybe you have

981
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 1: two top thirty and those guys should be stars. And

982
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:05,880
Speaker 1: that's you know, that's always an interesting debate. That is

983
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:11,760
Speaker 1: a different scenario, which isn't necessarily trading picks for picks.

984
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 1: But it's the whole Michael Gallup conversation which people have

985
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 1: been having during this offseason, you know, kind of hinting,

986
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 1: is he a good guy that would be good for

987
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 1: a trade, and we know his contract is about to end,

988
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 1: He's probably gonna require and ask for more money than

989
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 1: what the Cowboys could possibly paid him. And looking at

990
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 1: the fact that you still have Amari Cooper and um

991
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 1: Cidey Lamb, Cilley Lamb, sorry for Nancy Brain Cidey Lamb.

992
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 1: Where do you guys currently stand with that whole conversation?

993
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:47,720
Speaker 1: Is it still really a conversation or is that something

994
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 1: that kind of like that's not really going to happens.

995
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 1: That's well, there's a whole there's a segment. You know,

996
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:57,399
Speaker 1: there are is a segment of people that are so

997
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 1: obsessed with best player available that they'll say, you know,

998
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 1: Jamar Chase, Jalen Waddle or Davante Smith has a chance

999
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 1: to be the best player available when you pick. Yeah,

1000
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 1: those I mean, those guys are studs. And if you

1001
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:13,320
Speaker 1: were really about that business, you could draft one of

1002
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 1: those guys and either just let it roll or try

1003
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 1: to do something with Michael Gallop after the fall. I wouldn't.

1004
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:23,359
Speaker 1: I wouldn't do anything with Gallop unless that happened, Like, yeah,

1005
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 1: if you wind up with Kyle Pitts or a wide receiver,

1006
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 1: maybe you could make that happen. I always say it

1007
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 1: just like people are always trying to solve problems before

1008
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,320
Speaker 1: they arise. And I know we've talked about this before,

1009
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 1: but Amari Cooper's deal is structured to where they can

1010
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,360
Speaker 1: get out of it this time next year without really

1011
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 1: any consequences. Like the vast majority of his guarantees are

1012
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:46,399
Speaker 1: front loaded and they'll be done, so you could trade

1013
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 1: Amar next year for cheap. You could cut him if

1014
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:50,880
Speaker 1: you wanted to. I don't know why you would. He's great.

1015
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:53,839
Speaker 1: I think he'll be great, but you could so. I mean,

1016
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 1: you could find a way to pay Michael if you

1017
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 1: would prefer to keep him around, or you know, if

1018
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:01,720
Speaker 1: he leaves. Based on what he's done, I would think

1019
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:03,919
Speaker 1: any deal that he would sign a free agency would

1020
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 1: net you a fourth or maybe even a third round pick, depending,

1021
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 1: so you could go that way. So I don't think

1022
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:11,959
Speaker 1: it's necessary. Would you get for him if you traded

1023
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 1: him right now? That's a great Q draft day, on

1024
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:18,360
Speaker 1: draft day before you draft a receiver or after, because

1025
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 1: I think you know, if you draft Jalen Waddle and

1026
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 1: then you try to move Michael Gallop, I think people

1027
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:24,880
Speaker 1: would be like, well, I'm not going to pay a

1028
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:28,320
Speaker 1: premium for that. Like you, like, you got more receivers

1029
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 1: than you know what to do with. I think there

1030
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 1: have to be some kind of agreement going on here

1031
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 1: or something like that. I would like to think you

1032
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 1: could get it. I want to do that. I like, statistically,

1033
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 1: I believe like Gallup is one of, if not the

1034
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 1: best receiver from a production standpoint, from his draft class,

1035
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 1: one of Yeah, and so I'd keep in him. I'd

1036
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 1: like to think you could get a third for him.

1037
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 1: But it's hard to predict that type of stuff. I mean,

1038
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I would rather keep him unless you wind

1039
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:58,279
Speaker 1: up with one of these guys on your team and

1040
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 1: then or or you know, it's Will. It's Will's job

1041
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:04,919
Speaker 1: to you know, have his eye on you know, he's

1042
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 1: the executive vice president of player Personnel. A big part

1043
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 1: of his job is knowing other teams rosters. And so

1044
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 1: maybe you could trade Michael for a similar defensive tackle,

1045
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 1: I know, like Dalvin Tomlinson just signed a new contract.

1046
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 1: But a guy like that, like a talented defensive tackle

1047
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:24,319
Speaker 1: who needs a new contract, who's a obvious upgrade over

1048
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 1: what you have here. Look at guys in contract years, Yeah,

1049
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 1: both on other teams and on this team. Gallops a

1050
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:33,319
Speaker 1: contract year, Connor Williams is in a contract here, Um,

1051
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 1: Dalton Schultz. Those are the those are the guys that

1052
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:41,879
Speaker 1: are easiest to trade because they don't have a lot

1053
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 1: of money. You know that with the cap hit wouldn't

1054
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:46,240
Speaker 1: be that much at all for the for the team

1055
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 1: that would taking him or or letting them go. So

1056
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 1: and we I mean, it's easy for me to say, oh,

1057
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 1: that stuff never happens, but like you know, they did

1058
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 1: trade Ryan Switzer for Jihad Ward on Draft Day a

1059
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:59,880
Speaker 1: few years ago. They got Tavon and a draft trade,

1060
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 1: so it does happen. Does happen? But I lean towards

1061
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 1: thinking it's more unlikely than that. Is it unlikely for

1062
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:09,799
Speaker 1: any other players like you mentioned Connor Williams. I mean

1063
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:13,880
Speaker 1: there's also I mean Dalton Schultz. But but Dalton Schultz

1064
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 1: but be an interesting piece of trade bait for you know,

1065
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 1: any of those guys could be interesting. But is it

1066
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:22,959
Speaker 1: something realistic for that the cowboy that you could see

1067
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 1: the cow was actually doing with any of these guys realistic? Yes? Likely, No,

1068
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 1: Like that's kind of my answer. Across the board, it happens,

1069
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 1: it all those would be because those players, I mean,

1070
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 1: if you're saying that Gallup would probably give you a third,

1071
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:42,880
Speaker 1: then you if you were to trade Dalton Schultz on

1072
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:46,240
Speaker 1: Draft Day or Connor Williams. I mean we're talking about

1073
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:50,240
Speaker 1: day three pick here, right, probably fifth or it maybe

1074
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:53,240
Speaker 1: a player of a compar break and so at that point,

1075
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 1: you only do those things. If something happened in the

1076
00:56:56,680 --> 00:57:00,160
Speaker 1: draft that right change, like get a guard in the

1077
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:03,319
Speaker 1: second round. I'm only trying to move Gallop. Yeah, I'm

1078
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 1: only trying to move Gallop. If I draft Pits or Waddle,

1079
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:08,799
Speaker 1: I would only be interested in moving a guy like

1080
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 1: Connor Williams. If I wound up with Rashaan Slater. It's like,

1081
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 1: these aren't things that I'm seeking to do. These are

1082
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 1: things that because I might, you know, my draft class

1083
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 1: might change how I feel great as the future is

1084
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 1: this team. This team showed you in free agency that

1085
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 1: a lot of one year deals. I mean they're trying

1086
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 1: to They're trying to win now as well. I mean,

1087
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 1: you know, hoping that these guys sticking to baby keep

1088
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 1: them down the road, but I mean that they are

1089
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 1: trying to win right now and for this year as well. Yeah,

1090
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 1: and that going back to the first segment, I you know,

1091
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 1: they covered themselves as well as they are willing to do.

1092
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 1: But it just it doesn't and shouldn't change their philosophy

1093
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 1: in the draft for basically any position. And I know

1094
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 1: we talk about a lot about all the needs that

1095
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 1: they currently have on defense, and mostly that would be

1096
00:57:57,120 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 1: hopefully addressed through the draft. But when from the first round,

1097
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 1: second round, those later draft picks are there still like

1098
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 1: good talent there defense, what would be like the like

1099
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 1: the best kind of position that the Cowboys could be

1100
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 1: looking at in later rounds. Let me just throw this

1101
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 1: part in. And I don't know if I've said this before,

1102
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 1: I'm not interested in doing a lot of trade ups

1103
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:27,640
Speaker 1: unless you've already traded down a lot. I think this

1104
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 1: team has ten draft picks, and I think they need

1105
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:32,520
Speaker 1: ten players. At least. They need to throw ten things

1106
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 1: up on the wall and hope six or seven of

1107
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 1: them stick. You need that sixth round pick. He might

1108
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 1: be Rico Gathers that might not play for you. He

1109
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 1: might be Anthony Brown who you resigned, and as as

1110
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 1: a quality player, you need those guys. This team needs

1111
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:49,440
Speaker 1: so much help and so much depth that I'm I'm

1112
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 1: trying to I'm using those so to answer your question

1113
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:56,520
Speaker 1: about position, you know, there's hall of famers at every position.

1114
00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 1: In the sixth and seventh round, at some point in there,

1115
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:02,919
Speaker 1: you know, at somebody, do you hit on one who knows?

1116
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's and I think it just depends.

1117
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 1: I mean, you can talk trash about him all you want,

1118
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 1: but they trade it up for Xavier Woods because they

1119
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 1: felt strongly about him. And you know, for a guy

1120
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 1: he was drafted mid late sixth round and they got

1121
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 1: four years of starts out of him, Like that's a wine.

1122
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:22,439
Speaker 1: That's a good pick. Even though last season was bad

1123
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 1: for him, and I don't think very many people were

1124
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 1: sad to see him go. That's a good draft pick.

1125
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 1: They traded up for Tyler Bottish last year as well,

1126
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 1: So it just depends who's sitting there. I always tell

1127
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 1: people this is just my opinion. But like I said,

1128
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 1: the top one hundred is where I stop really thinking

1129
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:44,560
Speaker 1: that this guy is going to contribute. And again, he

1130
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 1: could grow into a Hall of Famer. He could be

1131
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 1: an Anthony Brown who or or an Xavier Woods. But

1132
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 1: Bradley and I is the perfect example. He falls to

1133
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:56,120
Speaker 1: the fifth. Everybody's Senior Bowl MVP, this great player and

1134
00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 1: he still could be. But everybody like, oh my god,

1135
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:01,040
Speaker 1: we got Bradley and I and he played six defensive snaps.

1136
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 1: That's something. Sure you can say something. Okay, for the

1137
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 1: last year and a half, every time you say top

1138
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 1: one hundred, I'm not trying to be rude about it.

1139
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:15,960
Speaker 1: I always think of Jazz Green. I mean it's just

1140
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 1: one example, but it's like, every time you say one hundred,

1141
01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:21,919
Speaker 1: I think of Jazz Green because he stuck in there

1142
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:25,000
Speaker 1: at like ninety eight or whatever. I know, Michael Gallup

1143
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 1: was pick eighty one, I get it, and Dak was whatever.

1144
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:30,920
Speaker 1: Dak was pick one thirty five. You work out with everyone,

1145
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 1: you just throw it out every number. Like I'm just saying,

1146
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:38,800
Speaker 1: that's pretty awesome. H I always say should if you draft,

1147
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 1: if you do your job the right way and draft

1148
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 1: the right player, a top one hundred pick should be

1149
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:46,240
Speaker 1: able to contribute. It's not an exact time you say it.

1150
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:47,680
Speaker 1: I can't get that out of my head. Like I

1151
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 1: just think maybe I'm always like being like contrary, like,

1152
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:56,680
Speaker 1: oh that's fair, but I just people, you know, I

1153
01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:59,040
Speaker 1: think the draft changes on Day three. That's when you're

1154
01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:01,760
Speaker 1: basically just cash in lottery tickets and hoping for the

1155
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 1: best bodies, yeah, and adding guys that can compete, maybe

1156
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:07,360
Speaker 1: grab a roster spot, and you hope for the best.

1157
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:10,760
Speaker 1: And that's why, literally, like I'm sitting here thinking, I'm like, okay,

1158
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:13,880
Speaker 1: in the first in the first three rounds, they need

1159
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:17,160
Speaker 1: to find a cornerback, they need to find uh some

1160
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:20,160
Speaker 1: offensive line depth, they need probably need a linebacker who

1161
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:23,400
Speaker 1: could potentially start right away. But then by day three,

1162
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, shoot, draft a quarterback. If the right guys there,

1163
01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:29,520
Speaker 1: if a running back that just absolutely shouldn't still be

1164
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:31,600
Speaker 1: there in the fifth round is there, draft them, draft

1165
01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 1: a defensive I don't care like and they have six

1166
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:37,360
Speaker 1: picks on day three, do whatever the hell you want

1167
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:39,400
Speaker 1: with them, honestly, because you're just hoping for the best

1168
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:42,480
Speaker 1: at that point. Anyway, all right, well they are going

1169
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:45,400
Speaker 1: to do whatever they want. They are they always do.

1170
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 1: They always do, not just on day three. They are

1171
01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 1: gonna do whatever they're doing. Who they is true? All right,

1172
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:55,320
Speaker 1: Well that's it for today. We ran out of time

1173
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:58,520
Speaker 1: and Derek never showed up. But that's okay. You guys

1174
01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 1: did a great job. I think the YouTube had a

1175
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:05,000
Speaker 1: pretty good conversation here. Today. We got we went into

1176
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 1: the weeds with the Jerseys, but we pulled it back.

1177
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:10,080
Speaker 1: We got back on the road. No, it was great

1178
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:12,840
Speaker 1: last night. It was a seriously Nick called me to

1179
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:15,480
Speaker 1: like breathe. It was like one of it was supposed

1180
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:17,880
Speaker 1: to be like a ninety second work conversation, and we'd

1181
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:20,960
Speaker 1: wound up ranting to each other about jersey numbers for

1182
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:23,480
Speaker 1: like a half hour. It's funny because you got you

1183
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:25,919
Speaker 1: guys say it's kind of stupid. It's not even done yet,

1184
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:31,080
Speaker 1: but yet you're still nothing. Love it. I mean, tell

1185
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:33,360
Speaker 1: them that story about LSU, that the patch, that's funny.

1186
01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:37,720
Speaker 1: The most clicked on story that I ever wrote in

1187
01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:40,600
Speaker 1: college when I was a student journalist was just some

1188
01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 1: bs that I threw together, like LSU decided that they

1189
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:46,959
Speaker 1: were going to stitch the letters LSU onto the collar

1190
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:51,840
Speaker 1: of the jersey, like the most stupid, minuscule change. It

1191
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:54,920
Speaker 1: blew up. It got like so many clicks. People were

1192
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:58,840
Speaker 1: arguing in the comments about it for like weeks. It was.

1193
01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:01,320
Speaker 1: And the other one other most clicked on story I

1194
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:04,880
Speaker 1: ever wrote was just a throwaway blog post that Terrell

1195
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:07,000
Speaker 1: Pryor was going to visit. He was going to go

1196
01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:08,880
Speaker 1: on a visit to LSU. He was like the number

1197
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:11,560
Speaker 1: one prospect in the country at the time, and just

1198
01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:15,640
Speaker 1: the thought that he would even visit campus, you know,

1199
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:17,880
Speaker 1: but then you know the story that I've spent like

1200
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:21,640
Speaker 1: four months reporting on, Oh, nobody right next, next week

1201
01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 1: or whatever, And it's not I'm not saying this has happened.

1202
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:25,440
Speaker 1: I'm just throwing out a free agent. We'd have two

1203
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:30,160
Speaker 1: headlines in a row. Cowboys signed veteran linebacker kJ Wright.

1204
01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:34,320
Speaker 1: Cowboys change pants to lighter shade of green. Oh. I

1205
01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:36,040
Speaker 1: mean like telling you that would be the only thing

1206
01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:39,360
Speaker 1: which I can't talk trash because I've been I say,

1207
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:42,080
Speaker 1: I don't care, and I've had like five different arguments

1208
01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:44,240
Speaker 1: about the jersey numbers in the last twenty four hours.

1209
01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:46,960
Speaker 1: LSU ever changed their goal post back to a regular

1210
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:51,040
Speaker 1: goal post and knockout, he wouldn't change anything about the game.

1211
01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:53,920
Speaker 1: I would be so mad, all right, guys, Well, thank

1212
01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:56,760
Speaker 1: you so much for joining us today. For Nickiman, David Hellman,

1213
01:03:56,840 --> 01:04:00,480
Speaker 1: I remember you see on Cowboys Break Dallas Always dot

1214
01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:04,680
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1215
01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:07,400
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