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Speaker 1: got left. It's called Morning Combat. It's right in your

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Speaker 1: is Luke Thomas. It's Friday. I'm sorry, it's not even Friday.

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Speaker 1: It's only Thursday, Thursday, July third, right, but happy fourth

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Speaker 1: What do you have to say for yourself? People thought

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Speaker 3: You got something on, I got something on, and uh hey,

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Speaker 3: Three day weekends? Three I worked every single day in June.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to agreed, agreed, No fights of major note.

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Speaker 1: enjoy it, let off a firecracker in your hand. You

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Speaker 1: We'll introduce our third member of the team. In a

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Speaker 1: and Morningcombat Dot Shop is on fire once again. Eight

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Speaker 1: out to average Joe Art, the fantastic artist behind these

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Speaker 3: And Luke, I'd never land Ranch.

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Speaker 1: Thank God, I never found McCauley attractive, to be honest, Luke,

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Speaker 3: Like you said, BC, they're here now, but like the McRib, yes,

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Speaker 1: One, two three Margaritas, right, Luke, Yeah, Hey, how about

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Speaker 6: I think it's the only fight to me, you know

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Speaker 3: Okay, listening to if I ever if I end up

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Speaker 6: I really like Charles, but what the fuck was that

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Speaker 3: More often than not, it yields obviously stunning results. But

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Speaker 1: who can get you out of there. Look, before we

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Speaker 1: hear from the coach of Patty here, I just wanted

431
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Speaker 1: to ask you, who do you think I think this

432
00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:53,840
Speaker 1: is a viable topic because there are a lot of

433
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Speaker 1: people on Twitter going, damn, look at the path of

434
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Speaker 1: destruction Ilia just had, and then look at the fact

435
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Speaker 1: that Josh Emmett lasted twenty five minutes with him, and

436
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Speaker 1: then you got other people going, yeah, there's It's one

437
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Speaker 1: thing to last twenty five minutes. It's another thing to

438
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Speaker 1: have success against him, which Emmett really didn't. Who do

439
00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:13,760
Speaker 1: you think had the best success against Elio to Poria

440
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Speaker 1: in the UFC up to this point? Is it is

441
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Speaker 1: it wrong to say Max Holloway until that fight ended.

442
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Speaker 3: I mean you could say Ji Herbert Jai Herbert rocked him.

443
00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:28,119
Speaker 3: You could say use of zilaal because to Poria had

444
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Speaker 3: to chase down takedowns and you know, had to go

445
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Speaker 3: the full distance in order for that fight to go

446
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Speaker 3: the way it went. You could argue Max because Max landed.

447
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Speaker 1: It's weird. Ilia says vulk was his hardest fight.

448
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Speaker 3: Well, he did lose the first round on all three

449
00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:44,680
Speaker 3: judges scorecards against Vulcan. Wasn't some route or something but yes,

450
00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,040
Speaker 3: vulcan is Folk's very good.

451
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Speaker 1: I mean, right, but it's more elusive technicol. But like

452
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Speaker 1: Max was standing in there and land in some serious stuff.

453
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Speaker 3: Max, Max got a great job, which we all knew.

454
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Speaker 3: You know, Max touched him up, like look at look

455
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Speaker 3: at the look at his face, dude. There's a video

456
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Speaker 3: of to Poria at home with his daughter yesterday. It's

457
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Speaker 3: a very wholesome video. But the one time I make

458
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Speaker 3: is you look at his face. You would never have

459
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Speaker 3: known he was in an MMA fight a few days ago,

460
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Speaker 3: whereas after that fight with Max, he was. He was

461
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Speaker 3: banged up a little bit for sure. So the answer

462
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Speaker 3: is like, you know who did the best against Ilia?

463
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Speaker 3: It's like I don't know who, Like who survived the

464
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Speaker 3: most against a destructive hurricane like mammots for nobody.

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Speaker 1: Josh survived the most, right.

466
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Speaker 3: He survived the most, But that's a fifty scorecard.

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Speaker 1: Right right, I don't know. It's like, so you you

468
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Speaker 1: know he got the extra ct for no reason on there,

469
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Speaker 1: but I understand it. Let's hear from Patty's calle. What

470
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Speaker 1: is Patty's coach's name? In this case?

471
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Speaker 3: I forget I'd have to look it up.

472
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Speaker 1: I'm all right, let's hear from some guy who represents Patty.

473
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Speaker 1: All right, let's go.

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Speaker 7: If we were offered the two fights of Ilia and Kabib,

475
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Speaker 7: I would be more.

476
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Speaker 3: Worried about the Kabib fight than the Ilia fights.

477
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Speaker 8: If he were guys were getting ready for Islam, for example,

478
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Speaker 8: rather than getting ready for Ili, I'm studdy, yeah, yeah,

479
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:57,600
Speaker 8: he'd be more consent for Islam.

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Speaker 7: I'd be more consent for the Islam fight. To be

481
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Speaker 7: honest with you, you know what I mean. Islam for

482
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Speaker 7: me is the the guy in the division and defeat

483
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Speaker 7: guy in the division.

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Speaker 8: Can you can you sort of shed some light?

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Speaker 3: Why is that?

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Speaker 8: What is it about Islam that sort of you believe

487
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Speaker 8: makes him a hot A challenge.

488
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Speaker 7: Is experience? Is experience in the divisions? To be honest

489
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Speaker 7: with your fighting a lot more lightweights, I would say.

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Speaker 1: He is.

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Speaker 7: Undeniably the best, the best lightweights in the world Islam Luke.

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Speaker 1: That was coach Paul Rimmer and he was on of

493
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Speaker 1: course Submission radio with our great friend, the Ukrainian Australian

494
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Speaker 1: behemoth known as Dennis. What's his last name, Luke.

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Speaker 3: I can't pronounce it. It's Ukrainian actually, I'm not sure

496
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Speaker 3: how to announce it.

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Speaker 1: There you go, There you go, Luke, what do you

498
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Speaker 1: make of what they're saying here, that they'd be more

499
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Speaker 1: nervous going in there against Mahachev than they would to

500
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Speaker 1: pour you.

501
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Speaker 3: It's not like that's an unfair thing to say if

502
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Speaker 3: you wanted to make the case that you still believe

503
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Speaker 3: that Iliya is not as good as Islam, or that

504
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Speaker 3: Islam presents potentially a wider array of threats, particularly in

505
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Speaker 3: the kind that you know, whatever vulnerabilities they have to

506
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Speaker 3: an extent that at Islam uniquely matches up with that?

507
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Speaker 3: Is that some crime to say? I don't think it's

508
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Speaker 3: a crime to say, but b C. Hearing these guys

509
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Speaker 3: talk and how dismissive they are over Ilia, Like, are

510
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Speaker 3: we thinking that he just beat Vulk, Max and Charles

511
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Speaker 3: because he got lucky three times in a row, or

512
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Speaker 3: not in the same way he got lucky, but that

513
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Speaker 3: you know, oh you got him, you got you got

514
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Speaker 3: you got Vulk off of Islam, you got Max at

515
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Speaker 3: you know, whatever stage of his career he's at, and

516
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Speaker 3: you got Charles in a similar kind of way. I'm

517
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Speaker 3: not that guy. Okay, you're in your twenties or whatever.

518
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Speaker 3: He pretty close to it. I mean, I get that

519
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 3: that's different, but like they're just they're just vastly underestimating him.

520
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Speaker 3: And I gotta say I another reason I want to

521
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Speaker 3: see this fight. I desperately want to see it because

522
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Speaker 3: I think if you, if you go into a fight

523
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Speaker 3: with Ilia Tuporia with this kind of attitude, it's gonna

524
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Speaker 3: go super fucking bad for you.

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Speaker 1: So I would agree with you on that. What do

526
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Speaker 1: you make of the people who are very quick Okay,

527
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Speaker 1: if I was gonna say very quick to dismiss Patty's chances, Look,

528
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 1: everybody's gonna dismiss Patty's chances. We're almost all going to

529
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Speaker 1: expect that he will get finished here. But it's can

530
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Speaker 1: obviously be up to him to overachieve not only not

531
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Speaker 1: get finished, but you know, win the fight. But when

532
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Speaker 1: we start looking at Jared Gordon highlights of that fight

533
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Speaker 1: that Patty should have lost the decision and he was

534
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Speaker 1: getting lit up, is it as easy to say that

535
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Speaker 1: was the old him? And if you look at the

536
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Speaker 1: more recent run the Bobby King or sorry the King

537
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Speaker 1: Green Finish the destruction of Chandler, that that's really who

538
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Speaker 1: he has evolved into.

539
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Speaker 3: Well, I saw Jack Slack refer to him as the

540
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 3: British Buckley, where he's just on an unk defeating tour,

541
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Speaker 3: and then he went up against someone who's still kind

542
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Speaker 3: of an unk, but maybe had a little bit more

543
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Speaker 3: than we thought. We've been over this against usman, and

544
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Speaker 3: he was left wanting you know, it's.

545
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Speaker 1: Like, yeah, the losing streak of the last three opponents

546
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Speaker 1: Patty beat is not inspiring when you add them together.

547
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but then again, but then again, this is the

548
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 3: point I made in Defensive Patty, because I do think

549
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 3: there's just there's just no way to look at that

550
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 3: and think he hasn't gotten better. He clearly has gotten better,

551
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,440
Speaker 3: very good as a matter of fact. But the other

552
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Speaker 3: part I would say is the way in which he

553
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Speaker 3: dispatched them. I mean, I think we have a clip

554
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Speaker 3: here where they talk about, you know, they saw how

555
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Speaker 3: Charles Olivera thought Michael Chandler and some of the things

556
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 3: he did right, but some of the things he did wrong,

557
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,119
Speaker 3: and they wanted to fix those things, and they thought

558
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,679
Speaker 3: that their performance against him was evidence of that. Like

559
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 3: they this is what I mean about watching Charles and

560
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 3: seeing like, oh kind of again, they don't. You can't

561
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 3: look at Charles look at Patty and think same fighter.

562
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Speaker 3: You wouldn't do that. But there's enough overlap between their

563
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 3: game where I could see why the coaches would want

564
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Speaker 3: to look at Charles, what went right, what went wrong,

565
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Speaker 3: and what they could pick up from that and then

566
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Speaker 3: make the adjustments. And then we all saw what happened

567
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Speaker 3: with Patty versus Chandler. Dude, Chandler. That was the first

568
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 3: time in my life wherever it was like dude, he

569
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Speaker 3: looks old, like Patty made him look old.

570
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Speaker 1: So Patty also looked a different level of confident, domin nasty.

571
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 3: In a sense, you know, one hundred percent. I'm just

572
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,159
Speaker 3: saying what I think is interesting about Patty and his

573
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 3: team is that they are underestimating to Pooria. But I

574
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Speaker 3: also think it is true that people are still underestimating

575
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,119
Speaker 3: Patty and how smart and his team are, And to me,

576
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 3: that makes this whole thing kind of fun.

577
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 1: Actually, all right, I don't think we have that video

578
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Speaker 1: you reference, by the way, it's not in the not

579
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Speaker 1: in the rundown. But I want to ask you as

580
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Speaker 1: we close up the talk on Patty. In this discussion

581
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Speaker 1: of the three big candidate names, and I'm not saying

582
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Speaker 1: four because I got enough dms from people that love

583
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 1: me and the show saying stop bringing up Connor McGregor's name.

584
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 1: We freaking hate that. That that absolute loser and handler Luke,

585
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 1: And maybe today's update on his news will confirm that.

586
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 1: I want to ask you this question. Do you think

587
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:52,680
Speaker 1: Patty would have the worst odds of the three against Iporia?

588
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 3: Okay, so the choices are Gechee, so are you again?

589
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 3: And Patty? Who'd have the worst? No, I think Gechie

590
00:27:58,320 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 3: would have the worst?

591
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, that is issue.

592
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 3: I think I think Saryukian would have the best relatively speaking,

593
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,400
Speaker 3: obviously right, Patty would be kind of in the middle,

594
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,159
Speaker 3: and then I think you would be Gaiche's path to

595
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 3: victory is slim, Patty's is real.

596
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, well let's go over to Armand Sarukian,

597
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 1: who had his opportunity for the title against Islam Maacheve

598
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Speaker 1: pulled out, of course just before uh we we were

599
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 1: told it was an illness. We wondered if it was

600
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Speaker 1: related to the weight miss. Then you had Dana White

601
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Speaker 1: saying it was just a weight miss and really sounding

602
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 1: still angry at Armand Sarukian for missing his moment, and

603
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 1: then he had Armine going on Ariel yesterday and being like, nah,

604
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 1: it wasn't a weight miss. It was more of the former.

605
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 1: But look, if you're ill trying to cut weight and

606
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Speaker 1: you can't finish the job, then that is a weight miss. Right.

607
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 1: It's just sort of.

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Speaker 3: I mean that like a weight miss. I feel like

609
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Speaker 3: a weight miss can be okay, so it is a

610
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Speaker 3: little bit of a I'm actually glad you brought this

611
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Speaker 3: up because I do think it's an interesting debate. The

612
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Speaker 3: clearest example of a weight miss is if I get

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Speaker 3: on the scale and I'm five pounds over right, that's

614
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 3: a miss. That's a clear miss. Everyone would agree. I

615
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 3: think most people would also agree BC. For example, the

616
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Speaker 3: last time I was well when I tried to cover

617
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Speaker 3: I think the second attempt at making Habib versus Tony.

618
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Speaker 3: This was on the card where two oh seven, two

619
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Speaker 3: oh nine something like that, where Woodley fought wonder Boy.

620
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Speaker 3: This is yeah, yeah, so Habib had a terrible weightcut

621
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Speaker 3: and couldn't even make it to the weigh ins. I

622
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Speaker 3: would also consider that a weight miss.

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Speaker 1: Just like, by the way, the same thing happened in

624
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Speaker 1: newness in the in the initial offering of the chef

625
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Speaker 1: Chenko rematch, which then Dana said she'll never make an

626
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Speaker 1: event again because she couldn't make that.

627
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Speaker 3: I thought that was sinus sidis.

628
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Speaker 1: I thought it was an illness related to the weight cut.

629
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Speaker 1: I guess we'll have to go back and look.

630
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Speaker 3: Well, that could be related, but I know in the

631
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Speaker 3: end she was diagnosed with sinusidis, which is it can

632
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Speaker 3: fuck you up. But the one of time to make

633
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Speaker 3: is but is it a weight miss? If yes, you

634
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Speaker 3: don't make it to the weigh ins. But I'm gonna

635
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Speaker 3: I'm going to I'm going to propose something because you

636
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 3: rolled your ankle, or you tweaked your back, or you

637
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 3: hurt your neck, is that a weight miss? To me,

638
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Speaker 3: that doesn't meet the spirit of it. The spirit of

639
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Speaker 3: it should be you didn't have your ducks in a

640
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Speaker 3: row as it relates to the weight cut, not an

641
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 3: injury prevented you from actually doing the weightcut or proceeding

642
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Speaker 3: with the bout itself. To me, those are different.

643
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 1: But once again, Daniel Cormier almost pulled out of UFC

644
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Speaker 1: two thirty after he sneezed too hard and pulled out

645
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 1: his back in New York, and don't forget the first

646
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 1: steepe fight when he tripped getting up off of the

647
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 1: dais from the press conference. But speaking of the Great DC,

648
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 1: he spoke with Arman Sarayuki, and so let's get into

649
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 1: this on who Arman wants next in uh spoiler alert,

650
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 1: I bet you can guess.

651
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 4: I'm gonna strike him. I'm gonna keep him. I wish fired,

652
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 4: and he was arrested on a lot, but he got

653
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 4: tired so much and he never thought his restlers like me.

654
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 4: Bruce Mitchell, what's his name, Bruce Mitchell, Bryce Mitchell, Bryce Mitchell.

655
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 4: He's the worst fighter in one forty five. He took

656
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 4: him down and hold him from the trainy position. And

657
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 4: I can't tell he's not high level. I mean it's

658
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 4: not double dou wh I can't wait to show.

659
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 3: Like everybody you said, Bryce Mitchell is the worst fighter

660
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 3: at one.

661
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 4: I mean no, I mean he's a I mean did

662
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 4: you watch his fights?

663
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 3: Did I watched the fight?

664
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 4: His kicks like he thinks he's kicking the ball. I

665
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 4: think like soccer, like soccer.

666
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're crazy armored.

667
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 4: I'll send Tapua back to top fifteen pounds for me,

668
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 4: it's easy to fight, to put it than all we were,

669
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 4: and then you can like just go like thousand times

670
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 4: to take him down because he's not going to try

671
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 4: to chuck you or something.

672
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 6: You know.

673
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 3: Well, that Bryce Mitchell fight that you were speaking about,

674
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 3: he won that fight by submission armor.

675
00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 9: I mean.

676
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 1: Bruce Mitchell also said afterwards that he was going to

677
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 1: retire Luke because of the beating he took in that fight.

678
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 1: So what do you make of a few things? One

679
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 1: arman sort of weird deadpan robot voice too. It looks

680
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 1: like one of his eyes is loose and turned four.

681
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 1: I don't want to go full on Tevin Farmer with this,

682
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 1: but anyway, I take that back. What'd you make of that? Luke?

683
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:26,239
Speaker 5: All Right?

684
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 1: I thought we had fun on this show. I didn't

685
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 1: realize things got serious. I mean, I could do the

686
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 1: Kai Car Friends a bit to ice breaking if you want.

687
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 3: All right, Wow, I didn't know we were going there

688
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 3: with the notorious big jokes. Okay, all right, here's the

689
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 3: difference for me. Obviously. The case for Patty is that

690
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 3: it would be funner, it would be like drama involved,

691
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 3: and that Patty could surprise you, and that Patty might

692
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 3: in fact, surprise you, right, that's the case. That's why

693
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 3: you do that fight. The Saryukian fight, to me, has

694
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 3: a very different case because there's really not much manufacture

695
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 3: beef between them, and obviously Arman is working outside of

696
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 3: his first language. It's just going to be very difficult

697
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 3: for him. However, what he has going for him is

698
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 3: that the meritocratic case, not that he has earned it,

699
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 3: although you could make that case too, but that the

700
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 3: threat he poses is the realist threat. And honestly, I

701
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 3: don't even know how you could argue with that. There

702
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 3: are limits to Armand's game. We've seen them, but till

703
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 3: Pooria against a guy who is going to be naturally

704
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 3: bigger than him, maybe naturally stronger, although that really remains

705
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 3: to be seen, but certainly can wrestle him for long

706
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 3: periods of time, whose game is limited, but relentless in

707
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 3: that regard, that's the difference. It's unrelenting wrestling pressure. Did

708
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 3: I've just not seen to Poria have to answer to

709
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 3: somebody like that Vulk and Master great Strikers. Charles is

710
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 3: well rounded, but obviously wrestling is not the number one

711
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 3: thing that he does. This is a new, different, real

712
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 3: kind of threat. So for that reason, this fight to

713
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 3: me is also perfectly acceptable for iliot to Poria in

714
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 3: its first title defense.

715
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,239
Speaker 1: Dude, it's the one I would, It's the one I

716
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 1: want from a competition, and obviously a meritocratic I think

717
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 1: got nailed that. I also, by the way, have uneven eyes, Luke,

718
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 1: So maybe i'm you know, maybe.

719
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 3: I was about to say eggshan when you eat. I've

720
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 3: seen what happens to your eye.

721
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: I mean, so maybe you know, maybe Jandroroba and I

722
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 1: are allowed to make those type of jokes, Luke, right

723
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 1: to be honest, right, you know what I'm saying. It's

724
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:28,800
Speaker 1: sort of like you can't make fun of my family,

725
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 1: but I can. All right, anyway back to this, look,

726
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 1: if you're trying to Bill, if you're trying to take

727
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:38,879
Speaker 1: the quickest path to make to Poria literally a household name,

728
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 1: and I have to wonder, Luke. I think a lot

729
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 1: of us have the same story. Since Ilia won the

730
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 1: title this past weekend, there's been people coming out of

731
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: the woodwork talking about them that you never expected. My

732
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:52,399
Speaker 1: kids came home from school and we're like, yeah, we're

733
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 1: talking to our best friend, and they wanted me to

734
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 1: ask you what you thought of that to Poria knockout.

735
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, that's cool. That's cool. I mean, it's

736
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 1: it's certainly he was a giant moment. If you want

737
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,919
Speaker 1: to double down on that, you make the Patty fight.

738
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,879
Speaker 1: But the best matchup of this three is undoubtedly Sarrukian.

739
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 1: He's also the most deserving. I'd love to see what

740
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 1: that physicality in this division, what type of challenge that

741
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: is for Ilia, because we still don't really know his

742
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 1: power carried up, his skill and delivery did, but what

743
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 1: about the physicality. What about when he's in there with

744
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:29,439
Speaker 1: somebody who could potentially manhandle him. I'd love to see this, look,

745
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 1: I really would.

746
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 3: I love this fight. I would be more I'd be

747
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 3: equally hyped for either fight, but I'd be more worried

748
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 3: about the Saryukia fight because of what the real threat

749
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 3: that he poses. But the Patty fight, as I mentioned,

750
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 3: just has jubilation or not jubilation, I should say, But

751
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 3: you know what makes the drama that makes the fight

752
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 3: game fun just written all over it. So the question

753
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 3: you have to ask yourself is which way is the

754
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 3: UFC going to go? They've kind of they it's weird,

755
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 3: right we see, Oh Gatesche says he might retire. Dan

756
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 3: is like, well, then you might want to retire. So

757
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 3: that's that one.

758
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,399
Speaker 1: John Jones said he might retire, Habem said he might

759
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 1: retire Dan. It's like I didn't mean it for those two.

760
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,320
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, yeah, fuck those guys. It's different. But then okay,

761
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 3: so so they're like dismissing him. Then so are Uki

762
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 3: like fills in for you know, to be the backup

763
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 3: and cuts weight and makes it just fine. And Danny's like, yeah,

764
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 3: he's got he's got some work to do to get

765
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 3: back up. You're like, all right, he's out, So they

766
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 3: must be Patty. Then they bring Patty in the cage

767
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 3: and Dan's like, I don't know who approved this? Well

768
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 3: then who the fuck is it? Like, I mean, if

769
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 3: it's not no, you already said you're not gonna make

770
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 3: the Islam fight.

771
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: So like, well that's that lady. This lady on the

772
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 1: Post Fight pod UFC podcast seem to really be pushing

773
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: Justin Gaischee.

774
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 3: So, Luke, why don't do you think that she got

775
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 3: marching orders for that?

776
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 1: I wonder, I wonder. I don't know if it was

777
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,959
Speaker 1: direct marching orders like go push that into the baby.

778
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 3: Suggest it.

779
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm gonna guess it was suggested before. But

780
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,839
Speaker 1: before we get into Geechee and his uh, his chances here,

781
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:00,839
Speaker 1: we do have one more clip from Starry you Can

782
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: that's very topical. In fact, it's on how he would

783
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 1: fight Ilia. I want to see this, let's go.

784
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:08,839
Speaker 4: I'm just can't wait to go there and to show

785
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:13,399
Speaker 4: like who is the Romanserukian and why I'm number one

786
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 4: contender and that day I'm gonna be a world champion.

787
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 4: So it's not just wrestling, it's a it's a I'm

788
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 4: a world rounded fire and I'm not gonna just try

789
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 4: to wrestle him. I'm gonna strike him. I'm gonna kick him.

790
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 4: I'm gonna up kick him and you know, and like

791
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 4: try to do but yeah, I'm not gonna try to

792
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 4: box him. I'm gonna try to do like a real

793
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 4: MMA fight to show him wrestling, to punch him, to

794
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 4: punch him wrestling, to show him wrestling, to kick him,

795
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 4: you know, and like clinch work.

796
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd like to see some clinch work. I'd like

797
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,399
Speaker 1: to see that physicality and that lady in question. I'm

798
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:58,280
Speaker 1: told is Mackenzie Pavovich, the recent higher for the UFC.

799
00:37:58,320 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 1: So there you go.

800
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,839
Speaker 3: Can I give you a bit of absolutely small time

801
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 3: but very cool breaking news.

802
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: Is this about Molly Meet Paul signing with metrom Boxing?

803
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, I just got a I told

804
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 3: my wife to stop texting me during the show, but

805
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 3: she texted me yes, and she showed me video proof

806
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 3: for the first time in her life. Big Tuky rode

807
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 3: a bicycle, no training wheels. Everybody, Big Tuky, no training wheels?

808
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 3: How about how yes? So freaking proud of her. There

809
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 3: we go, Sorry about that. I just had to say

810
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 3: something there.

811
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 1: Big moment, big moment there, Tukes, well done, appreciate that.

812
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 1: What what age is she has? She about six dollars?

813
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 3: She was afrase. I fucked it up because I got

814
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 3: her one of the glide bikes or the where the

815
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,799
Speaker 3: low center of gravity but no pedals, And then I

816
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 3: stupidly in her next bike, I got one with training wheel,

817
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 3: which just put her all the way back. So we

818
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 3: had to undo the bad habits. But we did it.

819
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 3: We got it. She's there.

820
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 1: Indeed, indeed, all right, that closed it off. That'sorr Yuki

821
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 1: inside of it. Luke I know that Justin Gatchee is

822
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: the fighter of the three we would probably least want.

823
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 1: But can you put on your hat and make an

824
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,879
Speaker 1: argument for him? What is the argument for him? Do

825
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 1: you think his legendary name alone and the fact that

826
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 1: he did headkick Poorier in a BMF title win and

827
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 1: he beat PHYSIV twice in recent memory, is that enough

828
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 1: to be in this discussion to possibly even be getting

829
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: the title shot.

830
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 3: I think there's a few things you could say. I

831
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 3: would say first, if you wanted to, you could argue,

832
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 3: this guy doesn't have much time left. You know, obviously

833
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 3: if Taporia beats him, that's still going to be good

834
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 3: for building up to Poria, so you know, you still

835
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 3: have a way of transferring star power, legitimacy, you know,

836
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 3: something from the old Guard to the New Guard, even

837
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,359
Speaker 3: though obviously to Poria is now you know, poun number

838
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 3: one according to the USC rankings, but still there is

839
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 3: a transference that would happen. Also, it would not be

840
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,800
Speaker 3: a bad fight, like it's just hard to imagine. Geche

841
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 3: doesn't have bad fights, right And to Poria, I guess

842
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:55,800
Speaker 3: you could say with some of his earlier ones weren't

843
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 3: super awesome, but for the most part. He doesn't have

844
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,840
Speaker 3: bad fights either, so that you could you could you

845
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 3: could rely on that. And also there's some danger to Taporia.

846
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 3: We know Gechie is a devastating striker, a big puncher.

847
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 3: You know you would have to take that seriously. But

848
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:09,479
Speaker 3: it's just hard to make the case that you could

849
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 3: really convince someone that the guy that Max Holloway put

850
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 3: face down, and you know from from forty five like that,

851
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 3: that Taporia couldn't get past him. It just feels, I mean,

852
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 3: you're playing mma math. I understand that, but it's just

853
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 3: something you're gonna have to from a perception standpoint overcome. Also,

854
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 3: the other problem is if you give Gaichi the title shot,

855
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 3: I mean, to Porio could win it, but maybe you know,

856
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 3: get injured and now he's out for a little while,

857
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 3: and so what do you do with Saryuki and what

858
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:40,879
Speaker 3: do you do with Pimblet Like giving one of them

859
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 3: a title shot kind of keeps the cue moving in

860
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 3: the healthiest on the way possible. Because even like Geichi,

861
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 3: how much time is he is Gateche going to be

862
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 3: in the sport as a competitor in twenty twenty seven.

863
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 3: I'm not even sure if he's gonna be in there

864
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty six, much less twenty twenty seven. So

865
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 3: you know, giving the other guys a title shot, you know,

866
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 3: puts puts you know, the local motive into into into action.

867
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 3: You can make a case for it. It's just not a

868
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 3: very good one. Yeah, all right.

869
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 1: The best choice for the sport might be Patty, the

870
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 1: best choice for meritocracy and the answers we need of toporia.

871
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 1: In this way, class is armane and if it was

872
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 1: armand by the way, I think Patty versus gae Chee

873
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,359
Speaker 1: is the perfect fight to set Patty up to earn

874
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 1: to you know, earn it a little bit more right,

875
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 1: to really beat another big time name who still brings danger.

876
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:32,439
Speaker 1: Yet it is another uk uk uk uk uk unk

877
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:34,359
Speaker 1: all right, it is. I used to call my uncle

878
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 1: Mike unk. You know, we're French Canadian looks, so we're

879
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 1: a little bit different. But here we go with that,

880
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 1: uh luke, who's your who's your personal choice? And ultimately,

881
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 1: which direction do you believe the UFC is going.

882
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say my personal choices, so you can I

883
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 3: think that if you do that, then the Patty fight

884
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 3: becomes even bigger. But I think that they might end

885
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 3: up just going with Patty because that one is promotionally

886
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 3: the one that he I mean, just follow the money,

887
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 3: which you.

888
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: Can't guarantee his brand will be this big again, especially

889
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 1: if you lose this.

890
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 3: Next one totally totally, whereas are you can It's not like,

891
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 3: how do I say this? I mean he's lost before

892
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, and so is Patty, but

893
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 3: not in the UFC obviously, so you know it's a

894
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 3: little bit different. But I think I think they'll probably

895
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 3: just follow the money. The money is the Patty fight

896
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 3: is going to be much much bigger.

897
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, would you be upset if they brought in soren

898
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 1: Bach and forced Patty to run that one back to

899
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 1: get the title shot?

900
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 3: Luke soren Bach belator legends soren Bach, I believe Yeah?

901
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: Uh Also, Luke, I wanted to ask you this, the

902
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 1: fight we all seem or me, I won't speak for

903
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 1: we all, The fight me all wants the most is

904
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 1: Ilia versus Islam. What do you believe is the quickest, slash,

905
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 1: most realistic way to get there? If that's what you really.

906
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 3: Want as a fan, say that again, how do we.

907
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,800
Speaker 1: Get to Elia Islam? What's the fastest one to realistically

908
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 1: get there.

909
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 3: He's got to beat one other. Let's say he goes okay,

910
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 3: So let's say they make the sar yuki in fight, right,

911
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,320
Speaker 3: and let's say Ilia goes in there and just wrecks

912
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 3: him inside three minutes, knocks him out cold, something like

913
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 3: he did to Charles. Right at that point, you're like,

914
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:20,760
Speaker 3: I mean, here's the reality. There is a world where

915
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 3: Toporia could beat sarayuki in so thoroughly that you're like,

916
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 3: I'm not even sure what the point of the Patty

917
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 3: matchup is anymore point, you know what I mean, Because

918
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 3: you're like, if he can't get him down, or if

919
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:33,399
Speaker 3: he can get him down but barely hold him down

920
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 3: and then he gets viciously KO'ed, you'd be like, well,

921
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 3: I don't know if Patty can do that, you know

922
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 3: what I mean. Like, Whereas if you go Patty first

923
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 3: Saryuki and still has a little bit of life on

924
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 3: the other end, So that's not what you're asking You're

925
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 3: asking him about it to making attractive to Islam. I

926
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 3: think that would do it. If he goes in there

927
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 3: and just absolutely destroys Sarayuki, And you're like, well, who

928
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 3: the fuck else could you even fathom that could be

929
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 3: enough of a threat to take the song. The only

930
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 3: answer at that point would be Islam Makachev.

931
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 1: The only issue with that. And by the way, on

932
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 1: the flip side, let's say he beat Sara Yuki in

933
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 1: but had some trouble, was on his was on his

934
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 1: back at times. I wonder if that makes the Patty

935
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 1: fight even bigger, because it would be thought that it

936
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 1: would be more competitive. But let's say Ilia keeps being Ilia.

937
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 1: The only issue with that, Luke is if Islam wins

938
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 1: the championship against DDP, something that could come in November

939
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 1: somethink October and Abu Dhabi. Either way, it's gonna happen next.

940
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 1: This division is so damn bottlenecked at the top that

941
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 1: how would the hell would you tell shavka Ian, Gary,

942
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 1: Sean Brady all these guys. So here's the deal, guys.

943
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 1: You gotta wait for Islam to fight for the belt,

944
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 1: and then you're gonna have to wait for Ilia to

945
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 1: fight him, and then one of you will get the

946
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: title shot.

947
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you can do that. I just don't know. Yeah,

948
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 3: I don't know. I I this is the problem is

949
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 3: there's a problem on your hands because you've got all

950
00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 3: of a sudden See before you had just moved at seventy,

951
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 3: but now you've got movement at seventy and fifty five,

952
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 3: and it's like, well, we finally have movement in both

953
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:11,760
Speaker 3: of these divisions, especially fifty five. Let's keep that movement going.

954
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 3: But that doesn't create for actually, what is the most

955
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 3: interesting fight that the sport can make? So I don't know,

956
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 3: I don't know what they're gonna do, but you know,

957
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 3: UFC is this is the thing, dude. UFC is very

958
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 3: very good about delivering the fights generally. I mean, if

959
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 3: you look at the history of the things, that is true,

960
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 3: and they're especially good at delivering the A minus fights.

961
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 3: Their record is mixed on delivering the A plus ones.

962
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 3: We obviously got Connor Habibe. That's an A plus one.

963
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 3: You know, we've got you know, some other Champ Champ

964
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 3: fights BJ and George San Pierto's I considered it an

965
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 3: A plus one. But we've already been down the list

966
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 3: of all the A plus ones that we missed too.

967
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 1: Folk versus Islam, don't forget was a was it?

968
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 2: Like?

969
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, well the second one was not the second one,

970
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 3: the first one grew together. First one definitely, first one definitely.

971
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 3: So again, I'm not saying that they don't do that.

972
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:00,879
Speaker 3: I'm saying the record, once they get to that top top, top,

973
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:03,840
Speaker 3: top tier, it's a little more mixed up there. For

974
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:05,760
Speaker 3: that reason, I'm a little bit skeptical that it happens,

975
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 3: even under various hair brain schemes to produce it.

976
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, dicey, dicey, a lot of hair brain schemes out

977
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 1: there this day. Luke Let's transition to topic number two.

978
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,800
Speaker 1: If we can't get Ilia versus Islam against one another

979
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 1: in the cage right now, we can get them once

980
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 1: and against one another in a pound for pound rankings debate.

981
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 1: And in the current UFC pound for pound top ten,

982
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 1: Ilia Taporia moved into the top spot, passing Islam Majev.

983
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 1: But Islam, if he defeats Jack Dela Madalna in a

984
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 1: few months, for all we know, he could move right

985
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 1: back into that top spot. You can also make the

986
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:43,360
Speaker 1: argument that Islam should still be there right now given

987
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 1: the win streak that he's on, oh, by the way,

988
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 1: fifteen consecutive wins in the UFC, and if Islam would

989
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 1: defeat Jack Dela Mattlena. He not only would become the

990
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 1: eleventh two division champion, he would tie Anderson Silva's record

991
00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 1: for consecutive victories within the UFC at sixteen, which is

992
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 1: not nothing right now, that is a hell hell of

993
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 1: a run that he's on. So Luke, you, myself, and

994
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 1: the one known as Long Island Luke, we have all

995
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 1: updated our top five. In fact, my top ten you

996
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:14,840
Speaker 1: could read right now on cbsports dot com.

997
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:15,399
Speaker 3: Nice.

998
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 1: How do you reorder your top five pound four pound? Officially?

999
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 1: After UFC three seventeen.

1000
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 3: So actually, for the first time in a long time,

1001
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 3: I went through and I had to like think about it,

1002
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 3: make a list, figure out what my reasoning was, and

1003
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 3: I came to a list. Now, as everybody knows, I

1004
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 3: mean BC, would you not agree that, like anybody in

1005
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 3: the top four has a claim to one, I'm not

1006
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 3: saying that all their claims are as good as the

1007
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 3: other one. You don't think, so you don't think Tojo

1008
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:51,879
Speaker 3: what he's doing is like that is in a world

1009
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 3: where a transcendent star like a Suporia doesn't exist, what

1010
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:59,320
Speaker 3: Pantoja is doing is typically good enough for four fucking

1011
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 3: title defense. That's historic no, I don't think.

1012
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 1: So he's great. He deserves you know, he's pushing for

1013
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,839
Speaker 1: number two. He deserves high level thing here, I'll say

1014
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 1: two and a half people have a chance. I'll say

1015
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 1: it's between Ilia and Islam. Is there a hipster argument

1016
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 1: for Marob based upon the high level of names that

1017
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:21,240
Speaker 1: he's not only defeated but largely handled on his own terms.

1018
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 1: I think there's a hipster chance for him. I don't

1019
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 1: think there's a straight up chance for anybody else.

1020
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 3: What that's yeah, I mean, I guess I'm making the

1021
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 3: argument that, like in ordinary ish times, what Pantojia is

1022
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 3: doing is extraordinary, but we've got two guys at the

1023
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 3: top who are doing extraordinary stuff. Okay, so that kind

1024
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 3: of changes the equation, all right, So number five for

1025
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 3: me was fairly straightforward. I've got Driggs Duplessy. Let me

1026
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 3: just run through it if I can be seen. So

1027
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 3: I've got Driggs dupless sitting at five. I think the

1028
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 3: way in which the rest of the top ten kind

1029
00:48:56,840 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 3: of go. He's clearly better than six to ten in

1030
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 3: my judgment, but he's definitely not better than one to four.

1031
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 3: So it naturally puts him at five. I'm going to

1032
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,319
Speaker 3: put a heavy emphasis on what they've done in the

1033
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 3: last two years or so. I think we're talking about

1034
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 3: pound for pound. The full record matters, but the last

1035
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 3: two ish years tends to be the most relevant, and

1036
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 3: obviously the last year would be the most most relevant. Okay,

1037
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 3: all right, so that's number five, number four, you can

1038
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 3: see it again. I struggled with this one. I did

1039
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 3: not know whether to put Morob or Aleschandre Pantoja at four,

1040
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 3: but I decided on Pantoja for this reason. If you

1041
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 3: look at the last couple of years that Morob has fought,

1042
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 3: it's nothing but former champions, nothing but those and the

1043
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 3: Josie Alda fight was not super impressive in the sense

1044
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 3: that he couldn't get Aldo down, but although didn't do

1045
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 3: shit to him also, and then after that it just

1046
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:50,320
Speaker 3: keeps going with former champions and various Hall of famers

1047
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 3: or in certain cases, you know, double champions, the guys

1048
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 3: who Umar is obviously the exception, but the guys who

1049
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 3: he's had to beat and then getting better against O'Malley

1050
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 3: in shore order, even after Amalley's able to get right.

1051
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 3: This is this is when you're beginning to double up.

1052
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 3: And lap the competition and you're facing almost nothing but

1053
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 3: top former champions. I had to rank him as number three,

1054
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:16,720
Speaker 3: but Pantoja certainly sits at number four, just just behind that. Okay,

1055
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 3: obviously I'll one more and one more note if I may,

1056
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 3: Pantoja struggled against Steve Erseg, which to me is like

1057
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,240
Speaker 3: that's a guy like if Kayasa Kora is the equivalent.

1058
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 3: You saw what Pantoja did to him. He just you know,

1059
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:30,479
Speaker 3: he kind of ran him over a little bit.

1060
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:34,320
Speaker 1: Kai car France. You mean ran over Steve ver Sig.

1061
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:39,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, So what did I say, Kayasakura? So I'm talking

1062
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,760
Speaker 3: about Pantoja beating kay Asakura?

1063
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:43,879
Speaker 1: Oh okay, I thought you were talking about the fact

1064
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 1: that Steve Verseig then lost to Kai kr France my

1065
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 1: first run.

1066
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 3: So he did. But I guess I'm trying to point

1067
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 3: out that, like there is a little bit of fat

1068
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 3: in the last two years on that resume, a little bit.

1069
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 3: I mean, we're we're splitting here, sir, all right, and

1070
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 3: this is where the central debate comes down. How do

1071
00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 3: you pick this one? Islam's wreck of achievement is obviously longer.

1072
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 3: Islam's record of achievement is in many ways because of

1073
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 3: that more decorated. But if we're treating pound for pound

1074
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 3: like a stock market, and we're asking not just who

1075
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 3: is rising, but obviously what they've done to a build

1076
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 3: capital accumulation here, the fact that you have Taporia going

1077
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 3: up in weight and icing the guy, to me, is

1078
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:28,319
Speaker 3: the difference maker here. That to me, is a much

1079
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 3: more difficult achievement, all things being equal, than beating a

1080
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 3: very good guy like that of equivalent ability in your

1081
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:38,839
Speaker 3: own weight class. Now, BC, if Islam goes out there

1082
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 3: and beats Jack Dayla, then we're gonna have to flip

1083
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 3: these because at that point, because at that point they'll

1084
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 3: both have the higher weight achievement, and then the longer

1085
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 3: record of achievement for Islam is going to take over.

1086
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 3: That's how I came to it. Let me know what you.

1087
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 1: Think my top five. I was shocked it was. It's

1088
00:51:55,719 --> 00:52:00,040
Speaker 1: exactly the friggin same, And I think you nailed the

1089
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:03,240
Speaker 1: debate between one and two right now, it's really fricking

1090
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 1: hard to deal with the last three fights to to

1091
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:08,840
Speaker 1: Boria had and compare them to anyone else on this list.

1092
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:11,839
Speaker 1: From the fact that he absolutely mutilated these guys, two

1093
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 1: of them, we'll ranked pound for pound at the time

1094
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 1: top ten, and you add in that he moved up

1095
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 1: in wait, it's really hard to beat the run that

1096
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 1: Islam is on. But you had the replacement fight with Mikano,

1097
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:25,760
Speaker 1: you had, you know, certain things happen there that weren't

1098
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 1: his fault. But yes, if he does the same thing

1099
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:31,799
Speaker 1: and goes up another weight class, Tiza Anderson Sill's record there,

1100
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:34,839
Speaker 1: we're looking at that same thing. I found that very interesting, though, Luke,

1101
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 1: that we were aligned on there were rarely ever aligned

1102
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:38,840
Speaker 1: on anything.

1103
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 3: Well sometimes sometimes BC great minds think alike.

1104
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 1: Well, let's see if they're third mind here thinks exactly alike.

1105
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 1: Or he can make a case in another direction. Let's

1106
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 1: bring in Luke Nosita, who's you know, lucky to be

1107
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 1: here because of how horned up his dad was that

1108
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:59,359
Speaker 1: time from Australia. But Luke, how do you order your

1109
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 1: top five? Uh?

1110
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:02,799
Speaker 2: I just swapped the top two other than you, guys,

1111
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 2: I got Islam number one. Man, I think people buying

1112
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:07,320
Speaker 2: into this recency bias too much with Ilia.

1113
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 5: Sure he did go up and wait, as Luke was saying,

1114
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:10,879
Speaker 5: but BC, you.

1115
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 2: Mentioned that fifteen fight win streak, in the UFC, not

1116
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 2: to mention eight of his last nine by finish the

1117
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 2: outlier there was the first Vulcan fight. He finished him

1118
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:22,839
Speaker 2: the second time around, so pretty much finishing everyone he's

1119
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:25,240
Speaker 2: fighting in his last eight fights or whatever.

1120
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 1: You don't against him that poorer made it interesting? Is

1121
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 1: that factor into the decision at all?

1122
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:31,760
Speaker 3: No?

1123
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 2: I don't, because he ended up finishing Poorier anyway, also

1124
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 2: Poorier former interim champion, Vulcan, former pound for pound number

1125
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 2: one and.

1126
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 3: Two time champions down a weight class.

1127
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 5: It doesn't matter Oliver Era.

1128
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:46,800
Speaker 3: Actually, actually that's exactly what mappened.

1129
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 2: He beat arm as well, you know, and you know

1130
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 2: we were gonna get into it earlier. But like armand

1131
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:56,799
Speaker 2: Ilia kind of like Arman in that fight, just saying, whoa,

1132
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 2: that's funny.

1133
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:00,040
Speaker 3: Do you see? Do you see why I have to

1134
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 3: hold to Poria's ball sack?

1135
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:04,879
Speaker 2: Every shut out shout out to Morob number three pound

1136
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 2: for pound but number one.

1137
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:08,719
Speaker 3: You see what I have to hold? You have to

1138
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 3: have to hold like like like Atlas carrying the earth.

1139
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:15,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you, Luke Thomas, there are people in

1140
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 1: our in our MK universe who believe that you and

1141
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 1: Long Island Luke, are at odds right now? At odds

1142
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:23,319
Speaker 1: and life right now? Yeah, they are. They came into

1143
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 1: my live chat, you know what I mean. They're like,

1144
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:26,359
Speaker 1: what's going on here, Luke?

1145
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:28,399
Speaker 3: Are we at odds? Are we? Are we fighting over?

1146
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 3: Are we fighting over use of the name?

1147
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 2: No, we got we got heavy beef. It's not over

1148
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:33,840
Speaker 2: the name, but we got beef.

1149
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:34,319
Speaker 5: All right.

1150
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:37,239
Speaker 3: It's related to how don't let me catch you outside?

1151
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, how about it? Interesting stuff right there. It

1152
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:43,839
Speaker 1: is a worthy debate right now. If they fought right

1153
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:45,799
Speaker 1: now at one fifty five, they're not going to do it.

1154
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 1: Who would be favored Ilia in Islam? Now?

1155
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 3: Who would the that's a question for Long Island Luke,

1156
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:51,880
Speaker 3: Long Island Luke. If they fought at fifty five, so

1157
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 3: you gotta take the weight cut into account. And let's

1158
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:56,800
Speaker 3: say it's in Las Vegas fight, so you know, neutral

1159
00:54:56,920 --> 00:55:00,319
Speaker 3: Ish territory. Basically, give me the odds on that one.

1160
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 2: I think it'd be a pick them straight one fifteen

1161
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 2: minus one oh five something like that.

1162
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:09,479
Speaker 5: But I would I would take Islam in that fight.

1163
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:11,799
Speaker 3: I would. I would bet that it would close with

1164
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 3: illly as a slight underdog, slight underdog I can see that.

1165
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:18,719
Speaker 1: What do you make of to close this pound for

1166
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 1: pound debate? Saturday? Last Saturday night, they asked Dana number

1167
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:29,240
Speaker 1: one and he said John Jones. Looking said John Jones

1168
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 1: did not BC.

1169
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:32,799
Speaker 3: Did your computer just glitch out?

1170
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 1: I saw it blinking, but my eyes were also blinking.

1171
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 1: I got this lazy eye. Luke, so I don't know.

1172
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:42,319
Speaker 3: Are you telling me that? Dana White said, John Jones

1173
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:43,879
Speaker 3: still deserves to be pound pound number one?

1174
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 6: Dies?

1175
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 3: I hear that correctly? Is that mma sentel? Are you

1176
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:46,800
Speaker 3: getting sentel?

1177
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 1: No? No, you could argue he was trying to make

1178
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 1: some dry humor because they were like, who do you pick?

1179
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 1: And he's like, who do you guys pick? It's up

1180
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:55,880
Speaker 1: to you. Who do you guys pick? He goes, you

1181
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:57,920
Speaker 1: know who I'm gonna pick. I'm picking John Jones.

1182
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:01,360
Speaker 3: Can you imagine? It's like, who's the record of achievement?

1183
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 3: You beat Steve A. Miochich after a five year He's

1184
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:04,720
Speaker 3: got to be sick.

1185
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 1: He's got to be carrying out.

1186
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 3: This right stick yeah, or maybe he.

1187
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:11,400
Speaker 1: Just hasn't been following the sport lately, Luke. He's a

1188
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:14,279
Speaker 1: busy guy. Just heads up on this right, all right,

1189
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:17,360
Speaker 1: let's transition into the topic number three on this Thursday,

1190
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 1: ahead of the holiday weekend and after his ten round

1191
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 1: unanimous decision victory over Julio says Our Shavez Junior on Saturday.

1192
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 1: Cruiserweight Jake Paul is now a ranked cruiserweight yes the

1193
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 1: World Boxing Association the WBA, for the record, the most

1194
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:40,400
Speaker 1: heinous of the four sanctioning bodies, excuse me, known for

1195
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:45,320
Speaker 1: putting out as many as many as three to four

1196
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:49,799
Speaker 1: recognized titles per weight class in a single division, which

1197
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 1: is insane. So you know what you're dealing with here,

1198
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 1: But the WBA has issued a number fourteen ranking in

1199
00:56:57,239 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 1: the world for cruiserweight for Jake Paul. Wow Luke. Now, look,

1200
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:11,920
Speaker 1: cruiserweight historically not a deep division, Cruiserweight historically populated by Europeans. Right,

1201
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 1: it's you're always get guys you may not have heard of.

1202
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 1: But still ranking Jake Paul as a twelve and one

1203
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:23,920
Speaker 1: professional having beaten a former champion who's thirteen years removed

1204
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 1: from relevance and Chaves having lost the only you know

1205
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 1: fight he did step up you could say, against an

1206
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 1: active fighter and Tommy Fury and then blew away those

1207
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 1: two journeymen who came out of retirement. But Luke asked, simply,

1208
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 1: should Paul's ranking have happened by the WBA? And maybe

1209
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 1: even more important, does it really even matter? Because I

1210
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 1: can't guess you're surprised over this.

1211
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 3: Let me just let me do me a favorite long

1212
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 3: on Luke put the list of the Okay, so this

1213
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 3: is the cruiserweight division. Now let me just say something BC.

1214
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 3: I recognize a couple of names on here. Obviously the

1215
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:06,920
Speaker 3: biggest one would be Uniel Dordicos who just lost correct

1216
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 3: or Justin.

1217
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 1: He just lost to zero Ramirez Ramirez.

1218
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, so he's a good fighter, right, and we could

1219
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 3: recognize that, and there might be like I think Chris

1220
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 3: billum Smith is okay, Yes, yes, he's okay, okay, But

1221
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:22,920
Speaker 3: I don't know who any of these other people are.

1222
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 1: Dude, I'm not going to act like I do either.

1223
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:27,920
Speaker 1: I know a couple of them by name only. But

1224
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 1: can I just tell you something, Luke?

1225
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 3: Yeah? Please?

1226
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 1: We already know the four sanctioning bodies, who, in terms

1227
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 1: of their sins differ at times. You know, we always,

1228
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 1: I guess favor the IBF because they actually stick to

1229
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 1: their own rules, although sometimes their rules don't even make

1230
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 1: sense when applied. Anytime you look at the rankings in boxing,

1231
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:52,440
Speaker 1: it never makes sense. Certain guys that you would expect

1232
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:54,920
Speaker 1: to be ranked high might only be ranked high in

1233
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 1: one of the four sanctioning bodies, and not more than one.

1234
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 1: And they're typically always filled with guys you've never heard

1235
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:05,200
Speaker 1: of who end up in number one contender spots. And

1236
00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 1: you're going, I've never heard of this guy. I've barely

1237
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 1: heard of the country he came from, I've never heard

1238
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 1: of anybody he fought, but yet he's the number one

1239
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 1: contender for this title. Like we literally have to pull

1240
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:19,600
Speaker 1: Canelo out of the Big Fight sweepstakes to fight you know,

1241
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:22,920
Speaker 1: Avni Yielderum, you know what I'm saying here. So, in general,

1242
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 1: the fact that we don't recognize the names in there,

1243
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:28,400
Speaker 1: it could just speak to the cruiserweight division not being deep,

1244
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 1: but probably even more, it speaks to the fact that

1245
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 1: to get ranked, promoters have been paying for decades behind

1246
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 1: the scenes, to get ranked for decades. All Right, the

1247
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 1: FBI has done investigations on this and found it out,

1248
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:46,440
Speaker 1: So let's not be necessarily surprised that we've never heard

1249
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 1: of these names.

1250
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:49,959
Speaker 3: Here, right, Fair enough? And as you indicated, for folks

1251
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 3: who don't know, and this is something I had to

1252
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 3: look into as well. The WBA is like maybe the

1253
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 3: worst offender of some of this stuff, where they're just

1254
00:59:57,240 --> 01:00:00,479
Speaker 3: giving rankings to people you've never heard of in ways

1255
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 3: that you could not imagine, for reasons that don't remain

1256
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 3: clear at all, whether you can accuse them of some

1257
01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 3: kind of malfeasans I, you know, it's up to you,

1258
01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 3: but you know the rational explanations don't make sense. So

1259
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 3: B see this to answer the question you initially asked.

1260
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:17,440
Speaker 3: I have mixed feelings about it. On the one hand,

1261
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:19,919
Speaker 3: it does not appear to me like he is being

1262
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 3: placed among It's not like you're like, oh, let's place

1263
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:26,160
Speaker 3: some on the list next to David Benavidez and you know,

1264
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 3: like well known, established names, and I'm supposed to treat

1265
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 3: him as like that's his peer group. Now they're putting

1266
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 3: him among boxers that have, to my knowledge for them,

1267
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:38,680
Speaker 3: with some exceptions we indicated, you know, no footprint whatsoever

1268
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:41,400
Speaker 3: that have beaten nobody that you know whatsoever. I don't

1269
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 3: know on that level, if Jake being there is some

1270
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:48,080
Speaker 3: kind of a scandal, however, what it also appears to

1271
01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 3: me is that we've got this ancient system, the sanctioning

1272
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:54,440
Speaker 3: body system, which to me is the biggest problem actually

1273
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 3: that boxing has. These are the guys who are tasked

1274
01:00:57,440 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 3: with the integrity of the sport. And these not just

1275
01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 3: the WBC and you name it. They just don't do

1276
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 3: their job, these ones in particular. And here comes Jake,

1277
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:09,280
Speaker 3: you know, should he be ranked? No, But he didn't

1278
01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:12,640
Speaker 3: create this system. He's just taking advantage of it. And

1279
01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 3: this is the inheritance that we now all have to

1280
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:17,080
Speaker 3: deal with. You know, it doesn't make me believe his

1281
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:19,800
Speaker 3: chances of winning a title or necessarily all that great.

1282
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:22,920
Speaker 3: But I just think people being like, oh, this is

1283
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 3: you know, Jake, you know, manipulating an honest system, and

1284
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:28,960
Speaker 3: it's like, I don't. That's not the read that I get.

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01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:31,920
Speaker 1: No, this is a That's what's interesting. I said this

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01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:34,960
Speaker 1: yesterday in my life chat. Normally, when somebody gets a

1287
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:37,440
Speaker 1: ranking and you're just like, there's no justification for this,

1288
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:40,960
Speaker 1: the real answer is probably that somebody paid for it.

1289
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:44,439
Speaker 1: This is actually the reverse. This is an indication where

1290
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:48,000
Speaker 1: these sanctioning bodies are jumping over themselves to get involved

1291
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:51,040
Speaker 1: in the Jake Paul sweepstakes, so they can make the money.

1292
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:53,600
Speaker 1: So either way they're making the money. But it's sort

1293
01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:56,120
Speaker 1: of inverse in that regard. And let's not forget Luke.

1294
01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 1: How many fights ago was Tommy Fury? Was it the

1295
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:01,919
Speaker 1: WBC one of the sanctioningbody's had announced before that fight

1296
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:05,000
Speaker 1: even happened that had if Jake would have won, he

1297
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:07,400
Speaker 1: would have been ranked then and back then you know

1298
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:09,960
Speaker 1: he had fought even less amount of people. So look,

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Speaker 1: to me, this is an absolute joke to your point,

1300
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:15,520
Speaker 1: I don't dunk on Jake and put it all on him.

1301
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:18,840
Speaker 1: He's playing in a system that's already broken and corrupt.

1302
01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 1: And you know why did Why was Canelo never stripped

1303
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:25,680
Speaker 1: when Benevitez was his mandatory for years because of the money,

1304
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 1: because of the sanctioning fees they get when Canelo fights.

1305
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:31,880
Speaker 1: So this is already a broken, ridiculous system. UH. And

1306
01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:33,920
Speaker 1: that's the thing when when Dana White does shit on

1307
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:36,920
Speaker 1: boxing and shit's on the on the UH sanctioning boards,

1308
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:38,320
Speaker 1: does that mean I think he should take over the

1309
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 1: Muhammad Ali Act and take away fighters rights from it. No,

1310
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:44,640
Speaker 1: But he's actually right in that regard. But the reality

1311
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 1: is Luke like, I'm not here to shit on Jake,

1312
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:51,520
Speaker 1: but to me, like it's one or the other. You're

1313
01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:54,400
Speaker 1: either trying to beat the requisite people to get in

1314
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:59,120
Speaker 1: line for a title shot, or you're an attraction circus fighter.

1315
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:01,280
Speaker 1: The fact that this guy's gonna go from a Mike

1316
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:03,680
Speaker 1: Tyson fight to trying to get Jervonte, But then every

1317
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:05,439
Speaker 1: time he talks it's oh, by the way, I still

1318
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:07,240
Speaker 1: want to fight for a title. Then if you want

1319
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 1: to fight for a title, fight these other guys in

1320
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:10,920
Speaker 1: front of you in the rankings that we've never heard of,

1321
01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:12,440
Speaker 1: that's the road to it.

1322
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:14,080
Speaker 3: Right, right, that's right, that's right.

1323
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:18,440
Speaker 1: And those aren't money fights, but that's what you should

1324
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:21,160
Speaker 1: have to do to be able to fight for a title.

1325
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 3: They're not money fights, but they are, for all intents

1326
01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 3: and purposes, real fights. That's the difference. They're real ones.

1327
01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:29,600
Speaker 3: And again, I don't know if those guys can all

1328
01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:31,480
Speaker 3: beat him. I don't know. I mean, Dordkost could beat him, Bobsley,

1329
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:33,600
Speaker 3: but some of the other guys made Maybe Jake beat

1330
01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:37,480
Speaker 3: some of those guys. I don't even know. But he's

1331
01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:41,560
Speaker 3: just it's an unusual path with a broken system of

1332
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:45,080
Speaker 3: third party validation, and this to me looks like the

1333
01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:49,360
Speaker 3: intersection of two problems, the not the arrival of one.

1334
01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:51,720
Speaker 1: Here's what I'm gonna say about this, Luke. If he

1335
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:55,280
Speaker 1: ends up in a title fight, I don't know if

1336
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:57,520
Speaker 1: it'd be the worst thing ever, it wouldn't be great.

1337
01:03:58,120 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I'd really really want him to actually have

1338
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:02,040
Speaker 1: to earn it first. But we have seen a lot

1339
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:05,120
Speaker 1: of ridiculousness in this game before. I just hope if

1340
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:07,840
Speaker 1: Jake Paul does fight for a world title, that it's

1341
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:10,680
Speaker 1: a quote unquote real world title, that it's one of

1342
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:12,800
Speaker 1: the four sanctioning bodies titles, like you know, it's not

1343
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 1: like the IBU title out of England, but more specifically,

1344
01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:20,360
Speaker 1: that it's not the WBA vacant interim secondary title, right

1345
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:24,720
Speaker 1: or the WBA Regular Champion as opposed to the Super Champion.

1346
01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:27,880
Speaker 1: I don't want this guy to win some absolute bootleg

1347
01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:30,160
Speaker 1: belt where he's one of not just one of four

1348
01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:34,680
Speaker 1: champions in a division worldwide, but one of like three

1349
01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:38,240
Speaker 1: WBA champions in that division. If it's gonna happen, let's

1350
01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:40,200
Speaker 1: do it right. And I know he did that face

1351
01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:43,080
Speaker 1: off with Zerto backstage afterwards, but look, I just don't

1352
01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 1: think he's gonna take these fights.

1353
01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:48,800
Speaker 3: I just don't think that's would end his career. I mean, yes,

1354
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:53,240
Speaker 3: this is there's no fucking way he takes that fight.

1355
01:04:53,560 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 3: If he does, I would say this, if Jake Paul

1356
01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:58,320
Speaker 3: actually ends up taking a Zerto Ramirez fight, I'd be like,

1357
01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:01,680
Speaker 3: you know what, all right, all right, fair play to him.

1358
01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:04,280
Speaker 3: You are signing up, you're signing your own death warrant.

1359
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 3: But at least you had the balls to try this

1360
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:08,520
Speaker 3: the right way. Fine, fine, but you.

1361
01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:11,960
Speaker 1: Just signed your death certificate. Nuwanda. One movie, Luke, Come on, come.

1362
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:13,560
Speaker 3: On, I don't remember which one.

1363
01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:16,479
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, you just signed your expulsion papers, Nuwanda. Sorry

1364
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:18,840
Speaker 1: it was Dead Poets Society, you know, maybe the greatest

1365
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:19,800
Speaker 1: movie of the nineteen eighties.

1366
01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:22,680
Speaker 3: Oh Captain, my captain, I'm gonna stand on my motherfucking desk.

1367
01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:25,320
Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking about, right there, beach. All right,

1368
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:28,040
Speaker 1: let's go to topic number four, bitches. According to the

1369
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:31,960
Speaker 1: article written by the Great John S. Nash on The

1370
01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:36,800
Speaker 1: Uncrowned on Yahoo, Wow, some superpowers coming together there, John

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01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:40,520
Speaker 1: took data from tapology that shows that while the UFC

1372
01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:43,240
Speaker 1: business is certainly thriving, in many ways, one of them

1373
01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:47,400
Speaker 1: being financially. The amount of events in MMA, including the

1374
01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:52,000
Speaker 1: UFC and beyond, well, they're shrinking, and they're shrinking rapidly. Luke,

1375
01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:56,520
Speaker 1: is there anything to this data that further explains the

1376
01:05:56,600 --> 01:05:59,960
Speaker 1: decline of MMA, or would you say, given the u

1377
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:06,200
Speaker 1: UFC's place in popular culture and that financial success and

1378
01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:09,000
Speaker 1: the IT factor that they have at the moment, that

1379
01:06:09,080 --> 01:06:10,560
Speaker 1: this has much ado about nothing.

1380
01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:16,160
Speaker 3: Well, it's hard to know exactly what it means, and

1381
01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:19,480
Speaker 3: it is kind of complicated. So let's just start with

1382
01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:21,640
Speaker 3: the baseline For folks who may not have seen along on, Luke,

1383
01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:24,440
Speaker 3: can you put the text up, not the graph itself,

1384
01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:26,600
Speaker 3: So let's read. There's more to the Obviously you've want

1385
01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:28,480
Speaker 3: to read the article, please go do that, but let's

1386
01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:30,120
Speaker 3: just read. Let me read through this if I can

1387
01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:32,400
Speaker 3: thanks to the datah blah blah blah. Okay. So, the

1388
01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:34,920
Speaker 3: number of professional MMA bouts has comes to us from

1389
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:38,760
Speaker 3: data from Topology, peaked in twenty seventeen and around twenty thousand,

1390
01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:41,560
Speaker 3: just shy of twenty one thousand. That number decreased only

1391
01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:43,760
Speaker 3: slightly over the next two years. Obviously, after the COVID

1392
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:46,480
Speaker 3: pandemic it fell off, but It worked to rebound in

1393
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:49,160
Speaker 3: twenty twenty one after the world's economies began to reopen,

1394
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:52,720
Speaker 3: but the industry never fully recovered. Instead, the second peak

1395
01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:55,040
Speaker 3: at MMA bouts petered out around twenty twenty three at

1396
01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:58,720
Speaker 3: eighteen thousand. The number of matches has since decreased, falling

1397
01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:01,200
Speaker 3: to sixteen eight hundred and eight in twenty twenty four,

1398
01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:03,840
Speaker 3: and at the current rate through May of this year,

1399
01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:07,440
Speaker 3: twenty twenty five may end up only seeing thirteen thousand,

1400
01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:09,840
Speaker 3: six hundred and thirty six bouts. Now she canlong on

1401
01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 3: put up the other graphic. Now here's the other part.

1402
01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:16,680
Speaker 3: This is not overall bouts. These are just the top

1403
01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:21,400
Speaker 3: markets USA and blue, Brazil and red, Russia in yellow,

1404
01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 3: Japan in green. Now, what you might notice is Japan

1405
01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:29,480
Speaker 3: is steadily increasing after obviously a decline around the twenty

1406
01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:33,040
Speaker 3: twenty pandemic. Japan appears to be a bright spot. What

1407
01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:36,320
Speaker 3: you also might notice is that the European scene is

1408
01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:39,520
Speaker 3: not listed on this graph. That's a good important point

1409
01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:42,320
Speaker 3: to note because the European scene seems like it's on

1410
01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:46,040
Speaker 3: the steady incline. It's going much higher and these are

1411
01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:49,640
Speaker 3: all positive developments. So thank you. Long look I appreciate it.

1412
01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:53,480
Speaker 3: So let's be clear about something. There's a couple of

1413
01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:56,040
Speaker 3: different things happening here. One Japan a bright spot, Europe

1414
01:07:56,040 --> 01:07:58,560
Speaker 3: a bright spot. It's not clear what those trend lines

1415
01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:01,040
Speaker 3: for those individual mores markets will look like over the

1416
01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:03,080
Speaker 3: next five or ten years. Maybe they kind of return

1417
01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:05,720
Speaker 3: back to the same situation we're seeing with the three

1418
01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:09,520
Speaker 3: dominant markets USA, Brazil and Russia. Or maybe it doesn't.

1419
01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:11,680
Speaker 3: Maybe it just keeps going up and the polarity of

1420
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:14,800
Speaker 3: MMA shifts. I've seen the MMA of polarity shift. I

1421
01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:16,320
Speaker 3: saw it when it was in Pride, and I saw

1422
01:08:16,320 --> 01:08:17,680
Speaker 3: it when it was in UFC. I saw it go

1423
01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:20,400
Speaker 3: from Japan to the USA. It happens, all right, So

1424
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:22,760
Speaker 3: something to keep in mind there. That's one thing I

1425
01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:25,280
Speaker 3: would point out also, and this is kind of important.

1426
01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:29,400
Speaker 3: There's if you just look at the UFC business, just

1427
01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:33,640
Speaker 3: the business itself, there's just absolutely no evidence whatsoever of decline.

1428
01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:36,479
Speaker 3: And in fact, we're on the precipice of them signing

1429
01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:39,040
Speaker 3: a new television deal which is going to be probably

1430
01:08:39,160 --> 01:08:42,200
Speaker 3: historic for the sport and going to make them a

1431
01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:44,840
Speaker 3: ton of money over the next five seven, potentially ten

1432
01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:47,320
Speaker 3: years or so. Right, it could be somewhere in that ballpark.

1433
01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:50,879
Speaker 3: So there's no way to look at the UFC's global

1434
01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:53,720
Speaker 3: reach and then the performance of the business and come

1435
01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:56,920
Speaker 3: to some kind of conclusion that MMA is in decline.

1436
01:08:57,400 --> 01:09:01,439
Speaker 3: But BC, we have to ask a different question, which

1437
01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:06,599
Speaker 3: is right one. Is there any evidence that the growth

1438
01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:10,240
Speaker 3: of the UFC leads to a broader growth of the

1439
01:09:10,360 --> 01:09:14,160
Speaker 3: MMA industry? I think in the sense that it pioneers

1440
01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:18,839
Speaker 3: new opening markets, yes, in the sense that it sustains them,

1441
01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:22,519
Speaker 3: absolutely not. There's just no evidence that it sustains them

1442
01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:25,040
Speaker 3: over the course of time. It can get a burst going,

1443
01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:28,080
Speaker 3: it can break down barriers, yes, but once it gets

1444
01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:30,120
Speaker 3: in the door, there's not a lot of evidence that

1445
01:09:30,160 --> 01:09:32,120
Speaker 3: it can sustain it. More to the point, there appears

1446
01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:34,639
Speaker 3: to be some evidence, at least in the North American market,

1447
01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:38,400
Speaker 3: that is, the UFC gets more financially profitable, MMA itself

1448
01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:41,160
Speaker 3: goes down. But there was some debate BC about whether

1449
01:09:41,240 --> 01:09:44,599
Speaker 3: or not, like, does this prove that MMA is in decline? Listen,

1450
01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:46,680
Speaker 3: some of the data is kind of complicated, and the

1451
01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:49,160
Speaker 3: fact that the UFC is doing really well makes this

1452
01:09:49,240 --> 01:09:51,160
Speaker 3: a little bit hard to understand. But for folks who've

1453
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:54,640
Speaker 3: never just dealt with the broader industry or thought of

1454
01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:58,120
Speaker 3: the industry as both, including the UFC, but apart from it,

1455
01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:01,760
Speaker 3: there's absolutely no way to say anything other than that

1456
01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:04,080
Speaker 3: is in decline. And anyone who's lived as part of

1457
01:10:04,120 --> 01:10:06,640
Speaker 3: it can just tell you more to the point, the

1458
01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:11,600
Speaker 3: number of big organizations that pay good money a Bellator,

1459
01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:15,080
Speaker 3: a pfl A one, these are in decline. B See

1460
01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:18,919
Speaker 3: Bellator got removed from the market. That's forty million annual

1461
01:10:19,479 --> 01:10:23,680
Speaker 3: in fighter pay and nothing replaced it. Nothing replaced it.

1462
01:10:25,439 --> 01:10:27,559
Speaker 3: You know, well, hold on, might I also add, and

1463
01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:29,080
Speaker 3: this is something that folks are just not going to

1464
01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:35,759
Speaker 3: appreciate again in North America, bloody elbow doesn't exist anymore.

1465
01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:39,799
Speaker 3: Sirius XM getting rid of all of their fight promotion

1466
01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:44,160
Speaker 3: or all of their MMA programming completely. You know, obviously

1467
01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:48,160
Speaker 3: my old employer, CBS Sports downsizing to a degree, Showtime

1468
01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:51,240
Speaker 3: getting rid of you know, cutting and paramount cutting bait

1469
01:10:51,240 --> 01:10:54,040
Speaker 3: with Bellator, cutting bait with by the Way boxing in particular,

1470
01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:55,559
Speaker 3: if you just look at by the Way, all the

1471
01:10:55,560 --> 01:10:57,840
Speaker 3: money coming in on combat sports, a lot of it

1472
01:10:57,880 --> 01:11:00,240
Speaker 3: is just not even coming in from the United States,

1473
01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:03,080
Speaker 3: is coming in principally in many cases from the Arab world.

1474
01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:05,120
Speaker 3: But the point I'm trying to make is if you

1475
01:11:05,240 --> 01:11:08,000
Speaker 3: just look around at the state of the industry with

1476
01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:13,160
Speaker 3: media contraction, event contraction, mid major contraction, and these are

1477
01:11:13,240 --> 01:11:17,240
Speaker 3: happening in all three of the biggest markets. Yeah, is

1478
01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:19,479
Speaker 3: UFC gonna be around for a while for sure. I

1479
01:11:19,479 --> 01:11:21,559
Speaker 3: don't know how you could conclude otherwise, And for most

1480
01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:27,160
Speaker 3: people maybe that's enough. But is MMA more broadly in decline.

1481
01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:30,639
Speaker 3: I don't know how you could argue otherwise other than

1482
01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:33,599
Speaker 3: to say there's a couple of global bright spots that

1483
01:11:33,680 --> 01:11:34,479
Speaker 3: buck that trend.

1484
01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:38,480
Speaker 1: Is that a direct result of monopolization?

1485
01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:42,040
Speaker 3: Though, well, you gotta be careful with that, because if

1486
01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:43,880
Speaker 3: you actually go go back to the graph, if you

1487
01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:47,240
Speaker 3: can't long island luke for just a second. I mean, technically,

1488
01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:51,160
Speaker 3: the decline in the number of events starts around twenty

1489
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:54,639
Speaker 3: two thousand and nine ish, you know, and like remember

1490
01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:58,240
Speaker 3: twenty sixteen. Look at look at twenty sixteen, right, So

1491
01:11:58,520 --> 01:12:00,679
Speaker 3: in that particular case, you at least have Russian MMA

1492
01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:04,240
Speaker 3: events on the incline, modest but negligible decline with Japan,

1493
01:12:05,240 --> 01:12:09,160
Speaker 3: smarttest decline with Brazil, but you know, substantive decline with USA. Dude,

1494
01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:12,400
Speaker 3: twenty sixteen, MMA was hot, So like, here's another thing

1495
01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:15,800
Speaker 3: you have to consider BC. There might have Thank you

1496
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:18,320
Speaker 3: Long Island, there might have been a glut of too

1497
01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:21,960
Speaker 3: many MM events that the product couldn't sustain anyway, So like,

1498
01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:25,320
Speaker 3: how much contraction is actually not a big deal at all.

1499
01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:27,759
Speaker 3: That's another part of the story that I'm perfectly willing

1500
01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:33,439
Speaker 3: to say explains this. But when I see mid majors

1501
01:12:33,439 --> 01:12:35,680
Speaker 3: get taken out, when I see the overall number of

1502
01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:39,759
Speaker 3: shows decline, and then companies who used to make money

1503
01:12:40,240 --> 01:12:43,760
Speaker 3: with their MMA coverage say we can't make money from

1504
01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:47,280
Speaker 3: this anymore, it is very, very difficult for me to

1505
01:12:47,320 --> 01:12:49,160
Speaker 3: claim that the thing is growing. And you're asking more

1506
01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:53,639
Speaker 3: broadly about UFC, I don't see how you can't look

1507
01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:56,680
Speaker 3: at the monopolistic practices and what that does to the

1508
01:12:56,680 --> 01:12:59,880
Speaker 3: industry more broadly and say it doesn't have any effect

1509
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:04,040
Speaker 3: If other companies can't thrive because of the nature of

1510
01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:08,479
Speaker 3: one firm dominating the market, does that play a contributing role?

1511
01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:11,759
Speaker 3: I don't see how it can't. Now that's not enough

1512
01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:14,000
Speaker 3: to explain the story, And in fact, that's kind of

1513
01:13:14,040 --> 01:13:17,519
Speaker 3: where it gets a little bit scary for me to

1514
01:13:17,560 --> 01:13:20,000
Speaker 3: be honest with you, which is that even if you

1515
01:13:20,120 --> 01:13:23,280
Speaker 3: can explain a significant amount of what is happening through

1516
01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:27,160
Speaker 3: UFC's business practices, and again that plays a role, I

1517
01:13:27,160 --> 01:13:30,960
Speaker 3: don't think that explains everything either. So we'll have to

1518
01:13:30,960 --> 01:13:34,400
Speaker 3: see what happens, maybe to Poria and then Islam fight

1519
01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:37,160
Speaker 3: and this leads to a renaissance, and they get Gable

1520
01:13:37,160 --> 01:13:39,880
Speaker 3: steveson and he comes through and star Power brings it

1521
01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:41,400
Speaker 3: back up, and then this is just where we are.

1522
01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:43,800
Speaker 3: We'll just ebb and flow and settle out to a

1523
01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:46,160
Speaker 3: more even place that could be exactly what happens. I

1524
01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:48,439
Speaker 3: really don't know, but I can just tell you as

1525
01:13:48,439 --> 01:13:51,840
Speaker 3: someone who is trying to examine the size and health

1526
01:13:51,880 --> 01:13:54,280
Speaker 3: of this industry, the one thing I can say with

1527
01:13:54,360 --> 01:13:58,080
Speaker 3: absolute certainty is it is contracting. Is it contracting to

1528
01:13:58,240 --> 01:14:01,800
Speaker 3: a healthier place that can be sustainable maybe. Is it

1529
01:14:01,800 --> 01:14:03,400
Speaker 3: contracted to a place where this is all going to

1530
01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:07,280
Speaker 3: come undone maybe, but it's definitely contracting. Of that, I

1531
01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:08,000
Speaker 3: have no doubt.

1532
01:14:08,680 --> 01:14:11,240
Speaker 1: Yeah. Undone is a great seventy song from the Guests, who,

1533
01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:14,080
Speaker 1: by the way, absolutely jammer. I want to ask you something.

1534
01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:16,360
Speaker 1: Do you remember that great medior that hit the MMA

1535
01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:19,040
Speaker 1: media Lane? For a couple of years. His name was

1536
01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:22,480
Speaker 1: Jason from MMAI and he had a lot of investigative

1537
01:14:22,479 --> 01:14:25,360
Speaker 1: YouTube videos and one of them was looking at the

1538
01:14:25,439 --> 01:14:28,840
Speaker 1: regional scene of promotions that appear on UFC Fight Pass

1539
01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:32,360
Speaker 1: And what the MMAI came to the conclusion of is

1540
01:14:32,360 --> 01:14:36,160
Speaker 1: that these promotions would not exist anymore financially if they

1541
01:14:36,200 --> 01:14:39,599
Speaker 1: weren't on fight Pass and UFC wasn't paying them directly

1542
01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:41,920
Speaker 1: to keep them alive. And the reason was, of course,

1543
01:14:42,360 --> 01:14:45,120
Speaker 1: was to develop a low level regional scene to provide

1544
01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:48,559
Speaker 1: fighters to get ready to come onto the Dana White

1545
01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:52,240
Speaker 1: Contender Series and then come into the UFC, particularly at

1546
01:14:52,240 --> 01:14:54,800
Speaker 1: a very low rate. Of course, Luke, I do you

1547
01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:58,920
Speaker 1: wonder if Dana announcing that he's going to double the

1548
01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:03,680
Speaker 1: Dana White Contenders Series cards, does that put those promotions

1549
01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:06,559
Speaker 1: in jeopardy on fight Pass or does that is that

1550
01:15:06,720 --> 01:15:10,240
Speaker 1: just further building up the regional scene to better prepare

1551
01:15:10,280 --> 01:15:13,040
Speaker 1: fighters for the UFC. Is there any correlation there?

1552
01:15:13,240 --> 01:15:14,760
Speaker 3: So, I mean, let me tell you what a theory

1553
01:15:14,880 --> 01:15:17,080
Speaker 3: I've I don't have, but something can I tell you

1554
01:15:17,160 --> 01:15:19,559
Speaker 3: something that's been rattling around my head a little bit

1555
01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:24,200
Speaker 3: about this? It almost makes the monopolization of TKO more

1556
01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:28,080
Speaker 3: understandable in the sense that, well, I mean, obviously any

1557
01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:30,040
Speaker 3: company that would want to be a monopoly now's a

1558
01:15:30,080 --> 01:15:33,960
Speaker 3: good time, right. But more than that, maybe they see

1559
01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:36,679
Speaker 3: the riding on the wall. Maybe they see that MMA

1560
01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:39,840
Speaker 3: is undergoing a contraction, that it could go much further,

1561
01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:44,400
Speaker 3: and in order to stay profitable, they want to just say, Okay, well,

1562
01:15:45,040 --> 01:15:47,880
Speaker 3: where can we just get big money fights from. Let's

1563
01:15:47,880 --> 01:15:51,479
Speaker 3: go into boxing. Where can we get cheap talent that

1564
01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:55,240
Speaker 3: is easy to produce that there's no regulation over you

1565
01:15:55,280 --> 01:15:57,000
Speaker 3: could say slot fighting, But obviously I'm going to point

1566
01:15:57,040 --> 01:15:59,960
Speaker 3: to BJJ. Right, they're just kind of reading the right

1567
01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:02,599
Speaker 3: on the wall about MMA and then expanding the universe

1568
01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:04,840
Speaker 3: because that's what it's going to take for them to

1569
01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:08,439
Speaker 3: sustain the profitability that they currently enjoy. That's something that

1570
01:16:08,479 --> 01:16:10,400
Speaker 3: I've been thinking about as well. It's like they kind

1571
01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:12,240
Speaker 3: of they might see what's ahead here. And you're asking

1572
01:16:12,280 --> 01:16:15,040
Speaker 3: about contender series. That's like a first of all, to

1573
01:16:15,160 --> 01:16:18,960
Speaker 3: the point that you raise a lot, dude, if you haven't,

1574
01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:22,080
Speaker 3: if you have a if you have a regional promotion,

1575
01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:26,320
Speaker 3: how do you make money right your TV deal? If

1576
01:16:26,360 --> 01:16:28,559
Speaker 3: you have a really feverish fan base. You could do

1577
01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:31,240
Speaker 3: some at the gate, but like, it's very, very difficult

1578
01:16:31,320 --> 01:16:35,040
Speaker 3: to do. It's very difficult to be profitable doing regional MMA.

1579
01:16:35,120 --> 01:16:37,280
Speaker 3: It is done. There are places where it happens for sure,

1580
01:16:37,720 --> 01:16:40,160
Speaker 3: but it's not easy. And most of these guys who

1581
01:16:40,200 --> 01:16:41,840
Speaker 3: are on most of these entities that are on five

1582
01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:43,479
Speaker 3: pass by the way, from what I hear, some of

1583
01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:45,559
Speaker 3: them are going to get cut pretty soon. Like some

1584
01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:47,120
Speaker 3: of those are just going to go on their own way,

1585
01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:47,920
Speaker 3: and what are they going to do.

1586
01:16:48,040 --> 01:16:48,760
Speaker 1: They're going to be done.

1587
01:16:48,760 --> 01:16:51,000
Speaker 3: They're going to be done. They're gonna be done. So

1588
01:16:51,040 --> 01:16:53,320
Speaker 3: when Dana's like, oh, we're going to do more Contender series,

1589
01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:55,680
Speaker 3: what I think that is Everyone's like, oh, they just

1590
01:16:55,720 --> 01:16:59,000
Speaker 3: want cheaper fights. Well, probably on some degree that's true, right.

1591
01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:01,360
Speaker 3: I think the other one is, Dude, they're trying to

1592
01:17:01,439 --> 01:17:04,320
Speaker 3: make up for a missing regional scene that they can't

1593
01:17:04,360 --> 01:17:07,280
Speaker 3: rely upon and they have to just kind of prime

1594
01:17:07,400 --> 01:17:10,000
Speaker 3: the pump to a degree to get this out. I mean,

1595
01:17:10,040 --> 01:17:11,720
Speaker 3: this is the problem trying to point out. Everyone's like, oh,

1596
01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:14,679
Speaker 3: UFC did this, and I'm like, I'm the first guy

1597
01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:18,000
Speaker 3: to be hey, we should examine their UFC's monopolistic role

1598
01:17:18,320 --> 01:17:20,760
Speaker 3: in producing some of these outcomes. But I think if

1599
01:17:20,760 --> 01:17:24,719
Speaker 3: you actually look at the broader trends, there's something bigger,

1600
01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:28,840
Speaker 3: potentially potentially happening, and the UFC might be a victim

1601
01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:31,960
Speaker 3: of it too. That's that's kind of where my head

1602
01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:33,840
Speaker 3: is out a little, at least at a bare minimum.

1603
01:17:33,840 --> 01:17:36,400
Speaker 3: It's something I'm paying attention to. How it all plays

1604
01:17:36,439 --> 01:17:39,000
Speaker 3: out in the next five to ten years, we'll have

1605
01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:39,479
Speaker 3: to see.

1606
01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:40,160
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1607
01:17:40,240 --> 01:17:42,280
Speaker 1: I mean, I've been reading X and Zach on the

1608
01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:45,640
Speaker 1: MMA draw and it looks like that that the uh,

1609
01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:49,439
Speaker 1: the APEX is going to be red hot in the future,

1610
01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:54,519
Speaker 1: Luke between double Dana White Contender Series cards, UFC APEX

1611
01:17:54,560 --> 01:17:58,960
Speaker 1: Fight Night cards, nxt WW Pro Wrestling, and of course

1612
01:18:00,280 --> 01:18:03,639
Speaker 1: Zoofo Boxing as well. So that expansion to the old

1613
01:18:03,680 --> 01:18:06,160
Speaker 1: Apex Luke is purposeful in a lot of ways here.

1614
01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:10,200
Speaker 1: That keeps the costs low. It's the in house thing

1615
01:18:10,280 --> 01:18:12,320
Speaker 1: right there. So I wonder if they do end up

1616
01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:15,760
Speaker 1: removing the costs of keeping these regional promotions alive on

1617
01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:18,760
Speaker 1: UFC Fight Pass by just going we are the new

1618
01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:21,439
Speaker 1: minor leagues. It's called the Dana White Contender Series. I

1619
01:18:21,439 --> 01:18:21,920
Speaker 1: don't know.

1620
01:18:21,880 --> 01:18:24,800
Speaker 3: Again, I think that that is probably a plan. All

1621
01:18:24,840 --> 01:18:27,639
Speaker 3: I want the viewers and the listeners to pay attention

1622
01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:31,720
Speaker 3: to is there is information out there that is not

1623
01:18:31,920 --> 01:18:36,120
Speaker 3: very comfortable to view. And in fairness, we're not exactly

1624
01:18:36,200 --> 01:18:39,160
Speaker 3: sure where it's all headed, but I can just tell

1625
01:18:39,240 --> 01:18:41,479
Speaker 3: you as somebody in the like BC, let's talk about

1626
01:18:41,479 --> 01:18:42,800
Speaker 3: this for just a second before we move on. I

1627
01:18:42,840 --> 01:18:46,080
Speaker 3: just want to make a point when I first not

1628
01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:48,719
Speaker 3: when I first got into the business, but halfway through.

1629
01:18:49,040 --> 01:18:52,479
Speaker 3: So let's say, you know, twenty fifteen ish something like that.

1630
01:18:53,479 --> 01:18:55,280
Speaker 3: Even that's not really halfway, but you know part of

1631
01:18:55,320 --> 01:18:58,080
Speaker 3: the way through. You could look around at that point

1632
01:18:58,120 --> 01:19:00,280
Speaker 3: and you could say, hey, man, there are jobs out

1633
01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:03,439
Speaker 3: there that like, you could do really well in. You know,

1634
01:19:03,800 --> 01:19:07,120
Speaker 3: you could you had something to aspire to up the ladder.

1635
01:19:07,560 --> 01:19:10,759
Speaker 3: There was a big cushy media gig working in this place,

1636
01:19:10,840 --> 01:19:14,360
Speaker 3: or a big cushy media gig working in that place. Dude,

1637
01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:19,760
Speaker 3: those jobs either don't exist anymore or are on the

1638
01:19:19,800 --> 01:19:21,840
Speaker 3: hot seat, and I think there's going to be a

1639
01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:26,280
Speaker 3: many more of them that go away. What explains that now?

1640
01:19:26,360 --> 01:19:29,000
Speaker 3: Part of the answer is the changes in the media business,

1641
01:19:29,120 --> 01:19:32,120
Speaker 3: no question about it. Never one thing is never one thing.

1642
01:19:32,160 --> 01:19:35,639
Speaker 3: It's always a multitude of factors, but the but I'm

1643
01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:38,160
Speaker 3: just telling everybody out there, I have been in these

1644
01:19:38,160 --> 01:19:41,920
Speaker 3: fucking radio stations and in TV networks and editorial boards.

1645
01:19:41,960 --> 01:19:43,879
Speaker 3: I sat in these meetings in the late two thousands

1646
01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:47,120
Speaker 3: and early tens, and the pitch was very clear. This

1647
01:19:47,160 --> 01:19:50,639
Speaker 3: is a growing sport. There is a massive underserved audience,

1648
01:19:50,720 --> 01:19:53,400
Speaker 3: and you can make money on content if you decide

1649
01:19:53,680 --> 01:19:55,479
Speaker 3: to cover it, whether you want to sell ads against

1650
01:19:55,520 --> 01:19:59,439
Speaker 3: it or whatever. Not only is that argument not true

1651
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:03,040
Speaker 3: media art now anyway. Now media companies are looking at

1652
01:20:03,040 --> 01:20:05,200
Speaker 3: it and they're saying, this is now a liability on

1653
01:20:05,240 --> 01:20:08,000
Speaker 3: our bank, on our on our on our content portfolio.

1654
01:20:08,360 --> 01:20:10,839
Speaker 3: We need to get rid of it. It's actually eating

1655
01:20:10,880 --> 01:20:13,040
Speaker 3: into their profits rather than being a place that's either

1656
01:20:13,120 --> 01:20:17,719
Speaker 3: neutral or they can make money. What explains that that's

1657
01:20:17,760 --> 01:20:19,799
Speaker 3: a real thing, And if you're not in the media business,

1658
01:20:19,840 --> 01:20:22,639
Speaker 3: you don't feel it. There are no more cushy gigs

1659
01:20:22,640 --> 01:20:24,479
Speaker 3: to go to. Maybe there's a couple left in boxing

1660
01:20:24,479 --> 01:20:28,160
Speaker 3: in MMA, unless you're an MMA fighter or you know

1661
01:20:28,280 --> 01:20:31,120
Speaker 3: you're part of like someone who's only ever done you know,

1662
01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:34,320
Speaker 3: working through UFC, you don't have a media role that

1663
01:20:34,360 --> 01:20:39,080
Speaker 3: came before it. These jobs don't exist anymore, and I

1664
01:20:39,120 --> 01:20:41,000
Speaker 3: need folks to understand, like just new you don't have.

1665
01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:45,639
Speaker 3: I'm not asking for sympathy, I'm asking Noodle what that means. Uh,

1666
01:20:45,680 --> 01:20:47,200
Speaker 3: And it means a couple of things, not least of

1667
01:20:47,240 --> 01:20:50,479
Speaker 3: which is the industry is doing that it is.

1668
01:20:50,520 --> 01:20:52,960
Speaker 1: And you know, it's funny because we bring it up

1669
01:20:53,000 --> 01:20:54,840
Speaker 1: from time to time when you get somebody that d

1670
01:20:55,040 --> 01:20:57,360
Speaker 1: MS you or emails you on LinkedIn and is like, hey,

1671
01:20:57,400 --> 01:20:59,120
Speaker 1: I love your work, I want to do exactly what

1672
01:20:59,160 --> 01:21:01,559
Speaker 1: you do. Give me some advice where should I go?

1673
01:21:01,640 --> 01:21:04,680
Speaker 1: And you know, I usually am very quick to not

1674
01:21:04,840 --> 01:21:07,559
Speaker 1: give that exact advice because of how quickly the business

1675
01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:10,080
Speaker 1: is changing. But to your point, Luke, every time I

1676
01:21:10,080 --> 01:21:12,200
Speaker 1: get those emails now, I sort of get sad because

1677
01:21:12,200 --> 01:21:14,160
Speaker 1: I don't even know what the path would be these

1678
01:21:14,240 --> 01:21:18,320
Speaker 1: days to end up an MMA media person who actually

1679
01:21:18,360 --> 01:21:20,240
Speaker 1: gets paid. I don't know what the best path is.

1680
01:21:20,600 --> 01:21:24,200
Speaker 1: Is the best best path to go the MMA guru

1681
01:21:24,280 --> 01:21:26,920
Speaker 1: lane and just sort of create your own identity online

1682
01:21:26,960 --> 01:21:30,400
Speaker 1: and absolutely grind and jam and hope that becomes something.

1683
01:21:30,439 --> 01:21:34,680
Speaker 1: You're right, what sites left have these jobs that used

1684
01:21:34,720 --> 01:21:36,800
Speaker 1: to be there, It's it's scary it is.

1685
01:21:37,080 --> 01:21:38,280
Speaker 3: I mean, you can do that. You can do the

1686
01:21:38,280 --> 01:21:41,760
Speaker 3: independent creator thing for sure, that is a path you

1687
01:21:41,760 --> 01:21:43,720
Speaker 3: can go. It's partly to say that, like some of

1688
01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:46,680
Speaker 3: these jobs are just moving into different roles. But I

1689
01:21:46,720 --> 01:21:50,920
Speaker 3: don't think people understand if once corporate media moves out

1690
01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:54,719
Speaker 3: of MMA, they're taking all of that money out with it.

1691
01:21:55,200 --> 01:21:57,760
Speaker 3: There will be some survivors, there will fact, in fact

1692
01:21:57,800 --> 01:22:02,080
Speaker 3: be some that thrive, but as an enterprise that will

1693
01:22:02,160 --> 01:22:05,759
Speaker 3: just be either non existent or you know, less lucrative

1694
01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:08,080
Speaker 3: to the point of being negligible. And I think much

1695
01:22:08,080 --> 01:22:10,360
Speaker 3: of that will be replaced by AI, whether whether or

1696
01:22:10,400 --> 01:22:12,000
Speaker 3: not they do a good job or not. Like in

1697
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:15,040
Speaker 3: other words, there's just going even if some survive and thrive,

1698
01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:18,600
Speaker 3: there's going to be a downgrade substantially to the industry.

1699
01:22:18,600 --> 01:22:21,840
Speaker 3: More broadly, that doesn't happen if people feel like they

1700
01:22:21,840 --> 01:22:24,519
Speaker 3: can make a lot of our entities feel like they

1701
01:22:24,520 --> 01:22:27,400
Speaker 3: can actually make a lot of money on this. They can't.

1702
01:22:27,479 --> 01:22:30,280
Speaker 3: They know they used to be able to, they can't anymore.

1703
01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:32,960
Speaker 1: I mean, Kevin Iola's retired.

1704
01:22:33,479 --> 01:22:35,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he's in his sixties. I mean that's very different.

1705
01:22:36,040 --> 01:22:37,920
Speaker 1: You know, I was just throwing that out. There're just

1706
01:22:37,960 --> 01:22:39,800
Speaker 1: gonna see how you're gonna respond to that. There are

1707
01:22:39,840 --> 01:22:42,760
Speaker 1: a few ways to go, but enjoy your retirement, big keV.

1708
01:22:42,840 --> 01:22:45,640
Speaker 1: Let's continue on down the rundown, Luke, let's go to topic

1709
01:22:45,920 --> 01:22:48,200
Speaker 1: number five. And there's been a bit of an update

1710
01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:51,719
Speaker 1: in the appeals portion of the Connor McGregor civil trial

1711
01:22:52,200 --> 01:22:56,240
Speaker 1: of which he was found liable for sexual assault. The

1712
01:22:56,320 --> 01:22:59,479
Speaker 1: latest bit of news is that Connor McGregor might be

1713
01:22:59,479 --> 01:23:01,360
Speaker 1: in a little bit of trouble. Luke, can you break

1714
01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:04,280
Speaker 1: down for me, in Layman's terms, what happened here? He

1715
01:23:04,320 --> 01:23:09,639
Speaker 1: had made some accusations involving the victim in this case

1716
01:23:09,680 --> 01:23:11,920
Speaker 1: and her boyfriend that have now been taken back. What's

1717
01:23:11,960 --> 01:23:12,880
Speaker 1: the significance here?

1718
01:23:13,080 --> 01:23:15,559
Speaker 3: So this was extremely surprising. I'm going to keep these

1719
01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:17,400
Speaker 3: very general. We're not gonna spend a ton of time

1720
01:23:17,439 --> 01:23:20,280
Speaker 3: on this, in part because it's not a resolved situation yet,

1721
01:23:20,320 --> 01:23:22,960
Speaker 3: and so without the resolution, I can only give you

1722
01:23:23,040 --> 01:23:26,960
Speaker 3: some of a heads up we actually have. There's many

1723
01:23:27,000 --> 01:23:30,360
Speaker 3: people who have reported on this Irish Examiner, Mirror, you

1724
01:23:30,439 --> 01:23:32,360
Speaker 3: name it. Look if you can put up these two

1725
01:23:32,439 --> 01:23:36,599
Speaker 3: quotes that we have in order. First, so okay, actually

1726
01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:38,479
Speaker 3: you know what, let me let me go back, so

1727
01:23:39,400 --> 01:23:44,080
Speaker 3: I apologize. Connor McGregor gets found liable for sexual assault

1728
01:23:44,680 --> 01:23:47,559
Speaker 3: we all know against Nikita Hand, and he immediately said

1729
01:23:47,560 --> 01:23:49,320
Speaker 3: he was going to appeal. And then there was this

1730
01:23:49,400 --> 01:23:51,719
Speaker 3: claim that they were going to have some new evidence,

1731
01:23:51,760 --> 01:23:54,439
Speaker 3: including that remember there was this forensic evidence. You have

1732
01:23:54,520 --> 01:23:56,439
Speaker 3: to have an answer for why was Nikita Hand when

1733
01:23:56,520 --> 01:23:59,280
Speaker 3: she checked in to medical professionals, Why did she have

1734
01:23:59,560 --> 01:24:02,280
Speaker 3: severe bruising, Why does she have any number of other things?

1735
01:24:02,800 --> 01:24:04,920
Speaker 3: And there has to be an explanation for that. And

1736
01:24:05,080 --> 01:24:07,360
Speaker 3: the explanation by Tikita Hand and her team was that

1737
01:24:07,880 --> 01:24:10,479
Speaker 3: she was accusing Connor a sexual assault. That was her

1738
01:24:10,520 --> 01:24:14,920
Speaker 3: explanation for it. And then Connor's team, I think they

1739
01:24:14,920 --> 01:24:18,280
Speaker 3: were going to try through appeals to float something that

1740
01:24:18,280 --> 01:24:23,280
Speaker 3: they had two witnesses who again before yesterdays or two

1741
01:24:23,320 --> 01:24:26,559
Speaker 3: days AGO's hearing, what they were going to claim was

1742
01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:31,360
Speaker 3: that Ahad they had seen that Nikita Han's partner had

1743
01:24:32,360 --> 01:24:36,720
Speaker 3: put hands on her, essentially, and then this happened at court,

1744
01:24:36,720 --> 01:24:39,160
Speaker 3: which by the way, Connor McGregor was not present for.

1745
01:24:39,400 --> 01:24:40,960
Speaker 3: Put up the quote. If you can here, I'll read

1746
01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:43,120
Speaker 3: it to you. This is the referring to the couple.

1747
01:24:43,200 --> 01:24:44,400
Speaker 3: This is the couple. It was a man and a

1748
01:24:44,400 --> 01:24:46,679
Speaker 3: woman who claimed that they had seen Tikita Hand significant

1749
01:24:46,720 --> 01:24:49,960
Speaker 3: other hit her. The couple had sworn affidae fits, claiming

1750
01:24:49,960 --> 01:24:51,879
Speaker 3: they had heard a row or you know of conflict

1751
01:24:51,920 --> 01:24:54,000
Speaker 3: between missus Hand and her then partner on the night

1752
01:24:54,040 --> 01:24:57,439
Speaker 3: of nine December twenty eighteen after the alleged rape with

1753
01:24:57,520 --> 01:25:00,400
Speaker 3: Missus O'Reilly. That's one of the people claiming she saw

1754
01:25:00,400 --> 01:25:03,320
Speaker 3: the road from her bedroom in a house across the road.

1755
01:25:03,800 --> 01:25:07,040
Speaker 3: She claimed missus Hands then boyfriend pushed her and she

1756
01:25:07,080 --> 01:25:09,800
Speaker 3: saw him moving his arms and hips as though he

1757
01:25:09,840 --> 01:25:12,720
Speaker 3: was punching and kicking her. Mister Cummins, that's the other

1758
01:25:12,800 --> 01:25:15,840
Speaker 3: guy in of the two claiming that they saw this.

1759
01:25:16,439 --> 01:25:19,559
Speaker 3: Had claimed he was woken by screams and shouts coming

1760
01:25:19,560 --> 01:25:21,840
Speaker 3: from Missus Han's house, but said he did not see

1761
01:25:21,840 --> 01:25:26,360
Speaker 3: what had happened. Okay, next one. Their claims have now

1762
01:25:26,400 --> 01:25:30,799
Speaker 3: been totally withdrawn by McGregor, with Missus Hann's counsel seeking

1763
01:25:30,880 --> 01:25:35,120
Speaker 3: an apology from him over the ordeal. It comes after

1764
01:25:35,200 --> 01:25:38,120
Speaker 3: mister Gordon had asked the judges yesterday that the court

1765
01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:41,160
Speaker 3: quote ought to allow me to cross examine Missus O'Reilly

1766
01:25:41,160 --> 01:25:43,720
Speaker 3: and her partner mister Gordon is an attorney for Adikita

1767
01:25:43,760 --> 01:25:46,200
Speaker 3: Hand and mister Stains and then refer the matter for

1768
01:25:46,360 --> 01:25:50,600
Speaker 3: perjury proceedings to the Director of Public Prosecutions and subordination

1769
01:25:50,840 --> 01:25:54,360
Speaker 3: excuse me, subordination of perjury against mister McGregor. Reserving their

1770
01:25:54,439 --> 01:25:57,799
Speaker 3: judgment on McGregor's actual appeal, one of the main judges

1771
01:25:57,840 --> 01:26:01,120
Speaker 3: said she was referring the matter to the DEEP again,

1772
01:26:01,560 --> 01:26:04,920
Speaker 3: the Department of Public Prosecutions. The DPP will examine whether

1773
01:26:04,920 --> 01:26:07,720
Speaker 3: any potential perjury has occurred and anyone found to be

1774
01:26:07,760 --> 01:26:11,360
Speaker 3: suspected or that could face criminal prosecution. Long story short.

1775
01:26:11,720 --> 01:26:13,720
Speaker 3: In other words, the people who had claim to see

1776
01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:17,479
Speaker 3: this that would have offered some degree of corroboration for

1777
01:26:17,600 --> 01:26:20,519
Speaker 3: McGregor and his team's claims. When it came time for

1778
01:26:20,600 --> 01:26:23,840
Speaker 3: this appeals to happen, they just they said, no, we're

1779
01:26:23,880 --> 01:26:27,479
Speaker 3: not doing it. They withdrew and now the matter in

1780
01:26:27,560 --> 01:26:31,240
Speaker 3: fact has formerly been sent to the DPP. Now the

1781
01:26:31,240 --> 01:26:36,040
Speaker 3: one caveat BC that we have is that a spokesperson

1782
01:26:36,160 --> 01:26:39,400
Speaker 3: for McGregor has said that McGregor is not part of

1783
01:26:39,400 --> 01:26:42,120
Speaker 3: that referral. Now we've not heard that from the DPP

1784
01:26:42,360 --> 01:26:46,320
Speaker 3: nor the judge That is just a McGregor spokesperson saying that,

1785
01:26:46,360 --> 01:26:49,000
Speaker 3: in other words, could he have been misled by these

1786
01:26:49,040 --> 01:26:52,680
Speaker 3: two people and he also is you know, I'm going

1787
01:26:52,720 --> 01:26:56,800
Speaker 3: to say, as it pertains to being misled a victim,

1788
01:26:57,280 --> 01:27:00,200
Speaker 3: understand what I'm saying here, that is possible. Well, a

1789
01:27:00,200 --> 01:27:02,879
Speaker 3: lot of folks are thinking that McGregor is automatically involved.

1790
01:27:02,920 --> 01:27:05,719
Speaker 3: There is a scenario you could imagine where he also

1791
01:27:05,840 --> 01:27:08,639
Speaker 3: was given bad or misleading information and now the under

1792
01:27:08,720 --> 01:27:11,880
Speaker 3: due diligence they realized that they had to withdraw. I

1793
01:27:11,880 --> 01:27:14,360
Speaker 3: don't know, I don't know what best explains it. What

1794
01:27:14,479 --> 01:27:18,240
Speaker 3: I can say is another possible explanation. It's not the

1795
01:27:18,280 --> 01:27:20,439
Speaker 3: one I'm giving, but it's the one that is at

1796
01:27:20,520 --> 01:27:24,120
Speaker 3: least theoretically possible. Was that McGregor did all this to

1797
01:27:24,640 --> 01:27:28,400
Speaker 3: just further antagonize the victim and had no real way

1798
01:27:28,439 --> 01:27:32,240
Speaker 3: of ever establishing this And this is just another ploy

1799
01:27:32,320 --> 01:27:36,360
Speaker 3: for extending out this difficult circumstance for Nikita hand. That

1800
01:27:36,479 --> 01:27:38,680
Speaker 3: is one interpretation that someone could come to if they

1801
01:27:38,720 --> 01:27:42,479
Speaker 3: wanted to. All I can say is, Jesus Christ, this

1802
01:27:42,640 --> 01:27:45,160
Speaker 3: is I mean, this was already bad for McGregor. This

1803
01:27:45,240 --> 01:27:48,200
Speaker 3: is you know, beyond disgraceful at this point, and for

1804
01:27:48,280 --> 01:27:50,519
Speaker 3: the folks who are like, aha, there's more evidence that's

1805
01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:54,599
Speaker 3: going to happen, I would be curious what they would

1806
01:27:54,600 --> 01:27:55,000
Speaker 3: have to say.

1807
01:27:55,040 --> 01:27:57,960
Speaker 1: Now. Yeah, I mean, obviously if this leads to perjury

1808
01:27:58,040 --> 01:28:00,680
Speaker 1: for Connor, if it's found that way, this could be

1809
01:28:00,960 --> 01:28:02,719
Speaker 1: a criminal proceeding right without question.

1810
01:28:02,960 --> 01:28:05,519
Speaker 3: Yes, Again, we don't know if it will even get there,

1811
01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:10,160
Speaker 3: or or they may try to get those the witness couple.

1812
01:28:10,320 --> 01:28:12,599
Speaker 3: They might say let's charge him for perjury, and who

1813
01:28:12,600 --> 01:28:14,479
Speaker 3: knows what happens to them. We don't know what's going

1814
01:28:14,520 --> 01:28:17,120
Speaker 3: to happen. If the DPP could say, you know what,

1815
01:28:17,560 --> 01:28:19,479
Speaker 3: we're not gonna We're just gonna let this go like

1816
01:28:19,520 --> 01:28:23,000
Speaker 3: nothing could happen. I'm not saying that criminal charges are inevitable,

1817
01:28:23,000 --> 01:28:24,680
Speaker 3: it's not in any way the point I'm making, but

1818
01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:27,760
Speaker 3: rather that if there was a case that Connor was

1819
01:28:27,800 --> 01:28:30,439
Speaker 3: going to be able to make on appeal, it has

1820
01:28:31,680 --> 01:28:34,760
Speaker 3: disintegrated into thin air. There's nothing, it doesn't exist. And

1821
01:28:34,800 --> 01:28:37,120
Speaker 3: in fact, now either he or the people who are

1822
01:28:37,160 --> 01:28:41,360
Speaker 3: claiming to make this you know, effidavit are now in trouble.

1823
01:28:41,960 --> 01:28:45,280
Speaker 1: So he was claiming, I'm trying to fully understand this

1824
01:28:45,400 --> 01:28:47,960
Speaker 1: that she was actually assaulted by her significant other, which

1825
01:28:48,000 --> 01:28:51,680
Speaker 1: would mean that the claims of sexual assault and the

1826
01:28:51,720 --> 01:28:55,920
Speaker 1: bruising on her, he's essentially claiming it wasn't him right.

1827
01:28:56,200 --> 01:28:58,640
Speaker 3: Right, because remember Connor during the civil trial did not

1828
01:28:58,800 --> 01:29:02,320
Speaker 3: deny that they were there was some degree of physical

1829
01:29:02,320 --> 01:29:04,880
Speaker 3: contact centially between them. The question was whether or not

1830
01:29:04,880 --> 01:29:08,040
Speaker 3: it was consensual. But remember Nikita hand shows up and

1831
01:29:08,080 --> 01:29:11,320
Speaker 3: these medical professionals evaluate her and they're like, wow, this

1832
01:29:11,479 --> 01:29:13,080
Speaker 3: is some of the worst bruising we've ever seen. That

1833
01:29:13,120 --> 01:29:15,559
Speaker 3: actually is what they had said, And so you have

1834
01:29:15,600 --> 01:29:17,599
Speaker 3: to have a theory. How did that get there? How

1835
01:29:17,600 --> 01:29:18,960
Speaker 3: did they get to be as simple?

1836
01:29:19,160 --> 01:29:21,800
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess Connor would be hoping that whoever was,

1837
01:29:21,800 --> 01:29:24,040
Speaker 1: you know, the couple that claimed they saw it are

1838
01:29:24,080 --> 01:29:27,439
Speaker 1: now essentially saying what that they didn't see it, or

1839
01:29:27,479 --> 01:29:29,160
Speaker 1: that they don't want to go to court and do this.

1840
01:29:29,640 --> 01:29:31,360
Speaker 3: We don't know, we don't know what they're saying. We

1841
01:29:31,400 --> 01:29:33,639
Speaker 3: don't know, and I won't speculate, We'll just have to see.

1842
01:29:33,680 --> 01:29:38,560
Speaker 3: But certainly quite terrible for the case of Connor McGregor.

1843
01:29:38,360 --> 01:29:41,479
Speaker 1: Mister Cummins, the witness that's not former barista turned Daniel

1844
01:29:41,520 --> 01:29:42,920
Speaker 1: Cormier opponent Patrick Coming.

1845
01:29:43,720 --> 01:29:46,080
Speaker 3: I don't believe that it is. However, they share a namesake.

1846
01:29:46,120 --> 01:29:46,720
Speaker 3: Certainly they do.

1847
01:29:46,880 --> 01:29:49,599
Speaker 1: They do Wow, interesting stuff. I'll stop trying to put

1848
01:29:49,600 --> 01:29:51,800
Speaker 1: Connor in super fights now, Okay, Louke, can we just

1849
01:29:51,920 --> 01:29:52,960
Speaker 1: you know, can we just be done?

1850
01:29:52,880 --> 01:29:54,000
Speaker 3: It seems like a terrible guy.

1851
01:29:54,720 --> 01:29:56,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, it really does. All right? Before we close the

1852
01:29:57,280 --> 01:30:00,360
Speaker 1: five topics, Luke, I just wanted to reference that breaking

1853
01:30:00,439 --> 01:30:03,719
Speaker 1: news overnight. I was shocked by it. David Benavita's PBC star.

1854
01:30:04,520 --> 01:30:07,519
Speaker 1: It appears as if he's maybe signed with Riodzis and

1855
01:30:07,560 --> 01:30:10,960
Speaker 1: as it's been announced that he will be making Hisson

1856
01:30:11,040 --> 01:30:14,640
Speaker 1: debut in Saudi Arabia, not against Callum Smith like we

1857
01:30:14,680 --> 01:30:17,519
Speaker 1: thought for a PBC pay per view, but based on

1858
01:30:17,600 --> 01:30:19,640
Speaker 1: a tweet from Turkey Alashka, looks like he's gonna fight

1859
01:30:19,680 --> 01:30:23,320
Speaker 1: Anthony Yard. This is pretty big movement of true, Luke.

1860
01:30:23,920 --> 01:30:26,320
Speaker 3: Why is that surprising? Didn't he say he'd be willing

1861
01:30:26,360 --> 01:30:27,400
Speaker 3: to work with Turkey in that?

1862
01:30:28,080 --> 01:30:29,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, but then there was the report that when he

1863
01:30:29,880 --> 01:30:32,160
Speaker 1: went out there that he left early and the talks

1864
01:30:32,200 --> 01:30:34,439
Speaker 1: didn't go well. And you know, but I wonder if

1865
01:30:34,479 --> 01:30:36,400
Speaker 1: it's as simple as if you want to fight the

1866
01:30:36,400 --> 01:30:41,040
Speaker 1: winner of better Ball, Better Ball, Better bvbvall three. You

1867
01:30:41,120 --> 01:30:43,080
Speaker 1: gotta come join our team and take a fight with us.

1868
01:30:43,080 --> 01:30:44,719
Speaker 1: I don't know, but you know to be fair though,

1869
01:30:44,920 --> 01:30:47,640
Speaker 1: other PBC fighters, including David Morrell Junior, who's gonna be

1870
01:30:47,680 --> 01:30:50,360
Speaker 1: fighting in a couple of weeks, have have taken fights

1871
01:30:50,400 --> 01:30:54,160
Speaker 1: with with Riad season, including Pitbull Cruz, a couple others.

1872
01:30:54,640 --> 01:30:57,719
Speaker 1: Carlos adamis, what have you so? But given the fact

1873
01:30:57,720 --> 01:31:00,680
Speaker 1: that Benavidez is such a big paper you brand for

1874
01:31:00,760 --> 01:31:02,200
Speaker 1: the PBC, that is pretty interesting.

1875
01:31:02,320 --> 01:31:07,360
Speaker 3: Luke, I guess I'm not as surprised by it, but

1876
01:31:08,920 --> 01:31:10,360
Speaker 3: I mean it's just the nature. I mean, this is

1877
01:31:10,360 --> 01:31:12,000
Speaker 3: where we are, dude. This is where all the money

1878
01:31:12,000 --> 01:31:13,800
Speaker 3: in the sport is from the Middle East. That's where

1879
01:31:13,800 --> 01:31:14,400
Speaker 3: all the money is.

1880
01:31:14,600 --> 01:31:17,720
Speaker 1: Where it's at, Luke. Two turntables, maybe even a microphone.

1881
01:31:18,040 --> 01:31:20,800
Speaker 1: Let's get into our fan segments here to close out

1882
01:31:20,800 --> 01:31:23,960
Speaker 1: this end over the Week episode and Morning Combat at

1883
01:31:24,040 --> 01:31:27,320
Speaker 1: gmail dot com is your portal to show mikey or

1884
01:31:27,360 --> 01:31:30,040
Speaker 1: genitals and maybe even drop in a dead wrong or

1885
01:31:30,080 --> 01:31:32,120
Speaker 1: a fans of the first one is where we take

1886
01:31:32,160 --> 01:31:35,080
Speaker 1: the stand. Hey, not everything we say is correct, and

1887
01:31:35,120 --> 01:31:37,080
Speaker 1: sometimes we need to be called out for it, but

1888
01:31:37,160 --> 01:31:40,000
Speaker 1: you better have time stamps and you better come original batch.

1889
01:31:40,360 --> 01:31:42,840
Speaker 1: It's called dead wrong.

1890
01:31:44,120 --> 01:31:49,920
Speaker 3: Then wrong, all right.

1891
01:31:49,960 --> 01:31:52,000
Speaker 1: Look. The first one is from my French brother and

1892
01:31:52,400 --> 01:31:55,760
Speaker 1: French Canadian brother and Mark Iwan bussela Barrio. He says,

1893
01:31:55,800 --> 01:32:00,240
Speaker 1: hello Luke BC and Bong Island, Luke the Bil, I'd

1894
01:32:00,280 --> 01:32:03,120
Speaker 1: like to report it dead wrong. From our beloved Ilia Lover.

1895
01:32:03,600 --> 01:32:05,880
Speaker 1: At thirty minutes and ten seconds of the show on Monday,

1896
01:32:06,320 --> 01:32:09,559
Speaker 1: Luke said that it's time for Ilia to fight someone

1897
01:32:09,600 --> 01:32:13,439
Speaker 1: in their twenties and mentions Armand and Patty as the

1898
01:32:13,479 --> 01:32:17,960
Speaker 1: two candidates fitting that criteria. However, Luke, Patty has been

1899
01:32:18,120 --> 01:32:22,080
Speaker 1: thirty since January third of this year, which makes look

1900
01:32:22,120 --> 01:32:23,960
Speaker 1: in fact dead wrong, all.

1901
01:32:23,920 --> 01:32:26,320
Speaker 3: Right, dead wrong. You know what I meant, someone more youthful,

1902
01:32:26,360 --> 01:32:28,800
Speaker 3: but fair enough, not in his twenties. I'll take that there.

1903
01:32:28,880 --> 01:32:30,400
Speaker 1: I mean he's a dad now, he's got twins.

1904
01:32:30,439 --> 01:32:32,799
Speaker 3: He's more mature though you're right, you're right, fairpoint.

1905
01:32:33,200 --> 01:32:35,320
Speaker 1: Mark closes with thank you for the show, Love you guys,

1906
01:32:35,320 --> 01:32:37,479
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. We appreciate that. But fun to

1907
01:32:37,520 --> 01:32:39,519
Speaker 1: see Luke take the l just the same. This last

1908
01:32:39,520 --> 01:32:42,600
Speaker 1: one here is from Owayne Owayne or is this some

1909
01:32:42,640 --> 01:32:45,320
Speaker 1: weird Irish name where it looks like CRN but it's

1910
01:32:45,360 --> 01:32:50,200
Speaker 1: really like Shardet or some shit? All right, Aaron, go

1911
01:32:50,400 --> 01:32:53,599
Speaker 1: bra right, I mean I didn't know. Okay, yeah, enough

1912
01:32:53,640 --> 01:32:56,080
Speaker 1: bad Gaelic humor, Luke, you know what I mean. I mean,

1913
01:32:56,120 --> 01:32:58,679
Speaker 1: I don't have any other jokes, but that's fine. Hey, guys,

1914
01:32:58,680 --> 01:33:00,519
Speaker 1: I hope you're both doing well. I'm here to dead

1915
01:33:00,520 --> 01:33:02,800
Speaker 1: wrong Luke. During Monday show, at fifty one minutes and

1916
01:33:02,840 --> 01:33:06,120
Speaker 1: ten seconds, he stated that the thirty five and over

1917
01:33:06,240 --> 01:33:09,559
Speaker 1: in title wins has now been broken twice. I hate

1918
01:33:09,600 --> 01:33:12,080
Speaker 1: to be nitpicky, but it's now three times, not twice,

1919
01:33:12,280 --> 01:33:15,240
Speaker 1: as the stat line was for one seventy and below.

1920
01:33:15,600 --> 01:33:21,679
Speaker 1: It's Muhammad, Volkanowski and Pantosia all entering the over thirty

1921
01:33:21,720 --> 01:33:26,519
Speaker 1: five club. So did Rocky Pennington cheers diggity Yeah.

1922
01:33:26,560 --> 01:33:27,680
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know if I could count the

1923
01:33:27,680 --> 01:33:30,840
Speaker 3: other side as a reasonable benchmark, but all right, fair enough,

1924
01:33:31,000 --> 01:33:33,120
Speaker 3: fair enough, that is InCom.

1925
01:33:33,000 --> 01:33:35,439
Speaker 1: That's dead wrong. Luke is oh for two and BC

1926
01:33:35,800 --> 01:33:37,000
Speaker 1: just perfect? It's great.

1927
01:33:37,280 --> 01:33:38,720
Speaker 3: Didn't you have to eat shit? Last show?

1928
01:33:38,760 --> 01:33:40,599
Speaker 1: I didn't have anybody I don't know soon I always

1929
01:33:40,600 --> 01:33:44,599
Speaker 1: forget about it afterward. Immediately afterwards, Luca's great. Our final

1930
01:33:44,680 --> 01:33:47,639
Speaker 1: segment is when you send in pictures of your family

1931
01:33:47,680 --> 01:33:51,160
Speaker 1: and tight T shirts and maybe even some fun artwork.

1932
01:33:51,280 --> 01:33:53,200
Speaker 1: They might end up on a T shirt. You never know.

1933
01:33:53,320 --> 01:33:55,639
Speaker 1: By the way, Mikey would like to let you all

1934
01:33:55,680 --> 01:33:59,080
Speaker 1: know that thank you for the aggressive batches that have

1935
01:33:59,160 --> 01:34:01,760
Speaker 1: come in. He picked the best of them with this week.

1936
01:34:01,800 --> 01:34:04,280
Speaker 1: But if you don't see your shit, uh, there's always

1937
01:34:04,320 --> 01:34:08,440
Speaker 1: next Friday. So check it out. This one's called fan submissions.

1938
01:34:09,040 --> 01:34:12,200
Speaker 9: You've got mayl feures.

1939
01:34:12,800 --> 01:34:15,599
Speaker 1: Shout out to Gaffney Pierre right there. I love that guy,

1940
01:34:15,640 --> 01:34:18,559
Speaker 1: Gaffney Jim as they call him. The first one's from Teddy,

1941
01:34:18,600 --> 01:34:20,960
Speaker 1: he says, Day one fan right here. Just wanted to

1942
01:34:20,960 --> 01:34:23,600
Speaker 1: show off a gold medal that I recently wonted a

1943
01:34:23,640 --> 01:34:28,760
Speaker 1: local BJJ comp before Luke. Now, before Luke downplays the achievement,

1944
01:34:29,000 --> 01:34:31,240
Speaker 1: I did check and the guys I beat did not

1945
01:34:31,400 --> 01:34:34,240
Speaker 1: happen to be Uber Drivers. Anyway, I was pretty pleased,

1946
01:34:34,240 --> 01:34:37,600
Speaker 1: considering I'm a washed dad of two girls. Keep up

1947
01:34:37,680 --> 01:34:43,599
Speaker 1: the great content oss exclamation point. It's Teddy from Essex, England.

1948
01:34:44,360 --> 01:34:46,439
Speaker 3: Congratulations, that's great. I'm not going to shoot on that.

1949
01:34:46,320 --> 01:34:49,440
Speaker 1: That's awesome, fantastic look at him in that black.

1950
01:34:49,240 --> 01:34:52,360
Speaker 3: Gee, right, Yeah, definitely looks very.

1951
01:34:52,320 --> 01:34:54,240
Speaker 1: Masculine in that gee. I believe we have a second

1952
01:34:54,240 --> 01:34:56,439
Speaker 1: photo of his Uh do it or no?

1953
01:34:56,600 --> 01:34:57,679
Speaker 5: Is that just one?

1954
01:34:58,000 --> 01:34:59,639
Speaker 1: All right? That's it? Shout out to him. I'm sure

1955
01:34:59,640 --> 01:35:02,640
Speaker 1: his girl were very proud of their accomplished dad. I

1956
01:35:02,720 --> 01:35:05,439
Speaker 1: used to go with my dad to karate practice when

1957
01:35:05,479 --> 01:35:07,040
Speaker 1: I was a little kid, and I would play in

1958
01:35:07,080 --> 01:35:09,240
Speaker 1: the arcade that they had in the lobby. I'd play

1959
01:35:09,240 --> 01:35:11,680
Speaker 1: pinball and then I'd watch him do high kicks. It

1960
01:35:11,760 --> 01:35:14,160
Speaker 1: was really cool. He was like, a how low is

1961
01:35:14,200 --> 01:35:15,800
Speaker 1: a green belt? I think that's less color.

1962
01:35:15,840 --> 01:35:17,360
Speaker 3: I saw. Have no idea how that works?

1963
01:35:17,680 --> 01:35:18,719
Speaker 1: Is that right above white?

1964
01:35:20,320 --> 01:35:22,519
Speaker 3: I don't. I genuinely don't know. I don't know how

1965
01:35:22,560 --> 01:35:23,960
Speaker 3: they do their belt system. I don't know.

1966
01:35:24,360 --> 01:35:26,080
Speaker 1: My dad was the kind of guy where like if

1967
01:35:26,120 --> 01:35:28,400
Speaker 1: he had beef at work, he just instantly would be like,

1968
01:35:28,439 --> 01:35:30,080
Speaker 1: let's step outside and figure it out. You know what

1969
01:35:30,120 --> 01:35:30,439
Speaker 1: I mean.

1970
01:35:30,640 --> 01:35:32,280
Speaker 3: He would have done well in the Marines. I saw

1971
01:35:32,320 --> 01:35:32,840
Speaker 3: that a lot.

1972
01:35:33,120 --> 01:35:34,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's what he told me I should have

1973
01:35:34,720 --> 01:35:36,680
Speaker 1: done in my early ESPN years. I'm like, Dad, we

1974
01:35:36,880 --> 01:35:37,400
Speaker 1: can't do that.

1975
01:35:37,720 --> 01:35:40,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would, But yes, I could have resolved matters

1976
01:35:40,920 --> 01:35:41,559
Speaker 3: that way. That's true.

1977
01:35:41,600 --> 01:35:43,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go, there you go. All right, let's

1978
01:35:43,400 --> 01:35:47,479
Speaker 1: go over to this next one from a fellow named CG. Lunz.

1979
01:35:47,840 --> 01:35:50,320
Speaker 1: He says or she, I'm not really sure. It's a

1980
01:35:50,360 --> 01:35:53,040
Speaker 1: typical day in combat. Luke and Brian are farting around

1981
01:35:53,160 --> 01:35:57,760
Speaker 1: in the bomb Shelter is distracted by Bbl's gyrating on

1982
01:35:57,800 --> 01:36:01,960
Speaker 1: his phone. Brian, the ever mischievous Brickxter, sneaks up, ready

1983
01:36:01,960 --> 01:36:04,599
Speaker 1: to launch his attack on a rear naked choke of

1984
01:36:04,640 --> 01:36:07,639
Speaker 1: a horned up and unaware Luke. Tune in next week,

1985
01:36:07,760 --> 01:36:11,040
Speaker 1: same combat time, same combat channel.

1986
01:36:11,120 --> 01:36:14,280
Speaker 3: All right, they're going they're going back to the AI. Well,

1987
01:36:14,400 --> 01:36:17,439
Speaker 3: but I I don't hate it. I don't hate it.

1988
01:36:17,640 --> 01:36:20,599
Speaker 1: That basement looks a lot like our RSD set, right, Oh,

1989
01:36:20,720 --> 01:36:21,639
Speaker 1: he is that lava lamp?

1990
01:36:21,720 --> 01:36:23,960
Speaker 3: It looks like an RSD set in the middle of

1991
01:36:24,000 --> 01:36:26,439
Speaker 3: the woods. Yes, you know.

1992
01:36:27,000 --> 01:36:29,400
Speaker 1: By the way, have you noticed more podcasts are having

1993
01:36:29,439 --> 01:36:32,559
Speaker 1: an RSD looking set lately? I've noticed that different.

1994
01:36:33,280 --> 01:36:34,000
Speaker 3: Don't remind me.

1995
01:36:34,120 --> 01:36:36,080
Speaker 1: Yes, all right, we used to be cool. We used

1996
01:36:36,080 --> 01:36:37,880
Speaker 1: to be like ahead of the game. It was really fun.

1997
01:36:37,920 --> 01:36:40,679
Speaker 1: But yes, cg LUNs. That's well done. When the AI,

1998
01:36:40,760 --> 01:36:43,280
Speaker 1: thank you very much. This next one is from Jonas.

1999
01:36:43,320 --> 01:36:45,040
Speaker 1: He has no comment. Let's see where it is.

2000
01:36:46,680 --> 01:37:01,000
Speaker 9: Oh my god, no, oh wow.

2001
01:37:01,520 --> 01:37:05,160
Speaker 3: No wow, oh no, no wow.

2002
01:37:05,280 --> 01:37:06,720
Speaker 1: That is wonderful.

2003
01:37:06,920 --> 01:37:10,439
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I got old dad teeth. What the

2004
01:37:10,439 --> 01:37:11,840
Speaker 3: fucks with my teeth in this photo.

2005
01:37:12,360 --> 01:37:15,479
Speaker 1: Imagine if you were like remember that Tyron Woodley video

2006
01:37:15,600 --> 01:37:18,400
Speaker 1: Luke where he was just like all about it. Imagine

2007
01:37:18,439 --> 01:37:20,280
Speaker 1: if you were doing that and you're like, oh, I

2008
01:37:20,320 --> 01:37:22,920
Speaker 1: thought it was that it's cake. It turns out its cake, right,

2009
01:37:23,000 --> 01:37:24,600
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And then you thought it

2010
01:37:24,720 --> 01:37:26,960
Speaker 1: was a okay.

2011
01:37:26,840 --> 01:37:29,519
Speaker 3: Curse the man who made those curse Jonas.

2012
01:37:29,520 --> 01:37:31,880
Speaker 1: That was well done there. Wow, all right, let's go. Well,

2013
01:37:32,000 --> 01:37:34,960
Speaker 1: Chef Kaz, you remember him, right, Chefkaz, Chef Cass from

2014
01:37:35,000 --> 01:37:38,200
Speaker 1: Las Vegas. He is a a chef to the stars.

2015
01:37:38,240 --> 01:37:42,519
Speaker 1: He also is a Coppawera instructor, professor of Vigante. They

2016
01:37:42,560 --> 01:37:45,760
Speaker 1: call him Luke. All right, all right, he says, just

2017
01:37:45,800 --> 01:37:48,639
Speaker 1: wanted to drop a quick note from your twenty twenty

2018
01:37:48,680 --> 01:37:52,639
Speaker 1: three Donk of the Year, honorable mention, Chefkaz, to share

2019
01:37:52,760 --> 01:37:56,080
Speaker 1: something cool from last night. I had the absolute honor

2020
01:37:56,120 --> 01:37:59,080
Speaker 1: of cooking for the official after party for the new

2021
01:37:59,240 --> 01:38:07,559
Speaker 1: UFC Whoa right after his huge win over Charles Olivera.

2022
01:38:07,840 --> 01:38:10,799
Speaker 1: The energy was electric and the champ was all class.

2023
01:38:11,120 --> 01:38:13,639
Speaker 1: He even let me snap some photos with him as

2024
01:38:13,680 --> 01:38:17,720
Speaker 1: well as both of his belts and Whoa and I

2025
01:38:17,720 --> 01:38:19,400
Speaker 1: got to rub him out. No, he didn't say that.

2026
01:38:19,760 --> 01:38:22,400
Speaker 1: I've also included a few shots of the food we

2027
01:38:22,479 --> 01:38:28,040
Speaker 1: put together for the night, top tier post victory fuel. Luke,

2028
01:38:28,600 --> 01:38:31,599
Speaker 1: you gotta respond to this. This is huge, dude.

2029
01:38:31,400 --> 01:38:35,000
Speaker 3: Dude, how did he get into the Iliataporia party before

2030
01:38:35,080 --> 01:38:37,080
Speaker 3: I did? The food looks good, by the way, I.

2031
01:38:37,160 --> 01:38:39,240
Speaker 1: Know that I know that Cass used to work with

2032
01:38:39,280 --> 01:38:41,599
Speaker 1: and Ganu at times, He's worked with other fighters back

2033
01:38:41,640 --> 01:38:43,040
Speaker 1: in the day. This is awesome.

2034
01:38:43,280 --> 01:38:48,200
Speaker 3: That's unbelievable, dude. Chef Caasz on the fucking come up, man,

2035
01:38:48,280 --> 01:38:49,680
Speaker 3: and you I would have loved to have been there.

2036
01:38:49,800 --> 01:38:50,719
Speaker 3: Where was my invite?

2037
01:38:50,760 --> 01:38:54,599
Speaker 1: Chef Cazberiously, the chef says, as you guys know, I've

2038
01:38:54,640 --> 01:38:56,680
Speaker 1: been lucky enough to work with a bunch of profighters

2039
01:38:56,680 --> 01:39:02,439
Speaker 1: and high level athletes, including UFC champions Las Vegas gol Knights, NFL, NBA, MLB, pros,

2040
01:39:02,680 --> 01:39:06,400
Speaker 1: but this one was definitely a highlight moment, especially considered

2041
01:39:06,439 --> 01:39:09,439
Speaker 1: the fight had just transpired. I'm still wrapping MK every

2042
01:39:09,479 --> 01:39:12,040
Speaker 1: day and tuning in without fail. I'm hoping to host

2043
01:39:12,040 --> 01:39:16,040
Speaker 1: a full on Upper Decker Free MK watch party night

2044
01:39:16,280 --> 01:39:18,240
Speaker 1: here at the house. Look did you see that Upper

2045
01:39:18,240 --> 01:39:22,600
Speaker 1: Decker Free sometime soon, hosted by me and missus Chefkaz

2046
01:39:23,160 --> 01:39:26,439
Speaker 1: y'all have an open invite anytime you're in Vegas. Very

2047
01:39:26,520 --> 01:39:28,719
Speaker 1: nice of you. Keep up the incredible work. The show

2048
01:39:28,760 --> 01:39:31,240
Speaker 1: continues to be the best thing going in combat.

2049
01:39:31,320 --> 01:39:33,920
Speaker 3: I honestly think and I'm not doing a bit. I'm

2050
01:39:33,960 --> 01:39:36,759
Speaker 3: not doing a bit. I'm one hundred percent telling the truth.

2051
01:39:37,439 --> 01:39:41,200
Speaker 3: We should set up some kind of crowdfunding thing and

2052
01:39:41,439 --> 01:39:44,000
Speaker 3: however much we raise just the bare bones, just enough

2053
01:39:44,040 --> 01:39:45,600
Speaker 3: to get to and back and whatever we need for

2054
01:39:45,640 --> 01:39:48,719
Speaker 3: the bear bones, and we should do on the road

2055
01:39:48,800 --> 01:39:53,400
Speaker 3: episodes at people's homes. One hundred thousand fucking person. When

2056
01:39:53,400 --> 01:39:55,599
Speaker 3: I tell you, I'm looking right at the fucking camera

2057
01:39:55,640 --> 01:39:57,200
Speaker 3: when I tell you, I would do it, And not

2058
01:39:57,240 --> 01:39:59,479
Speaker 3: only would I do it, I think it would be

2059
01:39:59,479 --> 01:40:01,400
Speaker 3: one of the fun, honest things that this show could

2060
01:40:01,439 --> 01:40:04,120
Speaker 3: ever do, particularly in the iteration that it's in. I'm

2061
01:40:04,200 --> 01:40:06,800
Speaker 3: one billion percent all in on doing it. If someone

2062
01:40:06,800 --> 01:40:07,360
Speaker 3: wants to make it.

2063
01:40:07,360 --> 01:40:09,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, but will you uppredeck somebody's toilet like they got.

2064
01:40:09,640 --> 01:40:11,960
Speaker 3: To guarantee, I'm going to ruin your fucking plumbing. I'm

2065
01:40:11,960 --> 01:40:14,000
Speaker 3: gonna take a dump the size of King Kong's you know.

2066
01:40:14,080 --> 01:40:16,439
Speaker 1: Okay, So when we made when we brought this up

2067
01:40:16,560 --> 01:40:18,360
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, and we're like, wow, that'd

2068
01:40:18,360 --> 01:40:20,400
Speaker 1: be awesome, and we mentioned, you know, hey, let's go

2069
01:40:20,439 --> 01:40:22,600
Speaker 1: to Mount you Unike, Nova Scotia, let's hang out with

2070
01:40:22,640 --> 01:40:25,479
Speaker 1: the Piquettes. Do you know that other Piquette chef, Mark

2071
01:40:25,479 --> 01:40:28,759
Speaker 1: Piquette who lives in Nova Scotia, not related to JP,

2072
01:40:29,000 --> 01:40:32,080
Speaker 1: but they became friends over it. He DM me and said,

2073
01:40:32,080 --> 01:40:34,559
Speaker 1: if you guys are serious and you're gonna do this,

2074
01:40:35,040 --> 01:40:37,760
Speaker 1: I will cook you like the feast you've never imagined.

2075
01:40:37,960 --> 01:40:45,280
Speaker 3: I did. Put put the camera on me. I'm telling

2076
01:40:45,360 --> 01:40:49,160
Speaker 3: you I would do this. I would love to do

2077
01:40:49,280 --> 01:40:53,080
Speaker 3: the MK Home Tour twenty twenty five or twenty twenty six.

2078
01:40:52,920 --> 01:40:54,200
Speaker 1: Whenever Invasion tour.

2079
01:40:54,280 --> 01:40:57,479
Speaker 3: Yes, the home Invasion Tour. We come in looking like

2080
01:40:57,560 --> 01:41:01,000
Speaker 3: kneecap with blaclavas on our face. Is gonna bang your

2081
01:41:01,000 --> 01:41:02,920
Speaker 3: wife and we're in a podcast afterwards.

2082
01:41:04,360 --> 01:41:06,719
Speaker 1: I'm at least gonna be the meat in a marriage

2083
01:41:06,720 --> 01:41:08,240
Speaker 1: sandwich at bedtime with you.

2084
01:41:08,160 --> 01:41:11,200
Speaker 3: Guys at I'm telling, but I'm in dead serious. If

2085
01:41:11,200 --> 01:41:13,640
Speaker 3: there's a way Long Island, Luke, I'm dead serious. If

2086
01:41:13,640 --> 01:41:16,519
Speaker 3: there's a way to do this, I honestly think gorilla

2087
01:41:16,640 --> 01:41:19,320
Speaker 3: radio style this would be one of the funnest things

2088
01:41:19,320 --> 01:41:21,360
Speaker 3: the show could do. The iteration that it's.

2089
01:41:21,160 --> 01:41:23,240
Speaker 2: In a I've been saying, you guys should come to

2090
01:41:23,280 --> 01:41:25,000
Speaker 2: Long Island do an RSD in my living.

2091
01:41:25,040 --> 01:41:26,160
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm not going to Long Island.

2092
01:41:26,160 --> 01:41:28,080
Speaker 2: I'd rather get AIDS, all right, but you'll go to

2093
01:41:28,160 --> 01:41:29,800
Speaker 2: fucking wherever else in the world.

2094
01:41:30,320 --> 01:41:32,839
Speaker 5: The other thing is we could use our merch profit

2095
01:41:33,000 --> 01:41:33,559
Speaker 5: to fund this.

2096
01:41:34,280 --> 01:41:36,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd rather not do that, but I mean you can.

2097
01:41:36,479 --> 01:41:37,840
Speaker 3: You're right all right.

2098
01:41:41,160 --> 01:41:43,679
Speaker 1: By the way, Uh, we had made jokes because Chef

2099
01:41:43,680 --> 01:41:46,479
Speaker 1: casts has always been very uh uh, what's the word

2100
01:41:46,520 --> 01:41:50,479
Speaker 1: I'm looking for, generacious, giving, gracious, generous, welcoming. But we

2101
01:41:50,600 --> 01:41:52,439
Speaker 1: used to have that joke that you know, him and

2102
01:41:52,479 --> 01:41:54,840
Speaker 1: his wife just wanted to you know, swap partners with

2103
01:41:54,840 --> 01:41:57,200
Speaker 1: with this with this married couple right here, Luke, but

2104
01:41:57,360 --> 01:42:00,640
Speaker 1: uh uh seriously, Chef casts can gl congratulations.

2105
01:42:00,720 --> 01:42:02,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's really awesome.

2106
01:42:03,040 --> 01:42:04,200
Speaker 1: Salute you well done.

2107
01:42:04,280 --> 01:42:06,360
Speaker 3: Right there also one more one more. Put the picture

2108
01:42:06,439 --> 01:42:12,679
Speaker 3: up with Chef Kaz and Ilia. One more, one more, dude,

2109
01:42:12,800 --> 01:42:15,559
Speaker 3: Look at Ilia's face. It looks like he just woke up.

2110
01:42:16,200 --> 01:42:16,280
Speaker 2: Like.

2111
01:42:17,000 --> 01:42:20,600
Speaker 3: There's no indication that man was in a fistfight a

2112
01:42:20,640 --> 01:42:24,960
Speaker 3: couple of hours earlier. Zero indication, none, nothing doesn't exist. Unbelievable.

2113
01:42:24,960 --> 01:42:26,760
Speaker 1: Shout out the chef Caaz. That's big ship man. I

2114
01:42:26,760 --> 01:42:29,400
Speaker 1: hope he continues to get referrals and more clients in

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Speaker 1: that area. Well done. Let's hear from Wes right now.

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01:42:32,439 --> 01:42:34,479
Speaker 1: He says, I made this, but then the joke ended

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01:42:34,520 --> 01:42:37,080
Speaker 1: up on have you seen this shit? And here we go,

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01:42:37,160 --> 01:42:37,880
Speaker 1: let's see what it is.

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Speaker 3: What did Cinderella do when she got to the ball?

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01:42:43,080 --> 01:42:51,559
Speaker 3: She gagged? So no fries, sure this is Wendy's now.

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01:42:51,560 --> 01:42:54,000
Speaker 3: B See, here's what I'm not gonna do. I'm not

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01:42:54,040 --> 01:42:56,759
Speaker 3: gonna say anything about the race of the person taking

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Speaker 3: your order. I'm not gonna say anything about.

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01:42:58,439 --> 01:43:00,919
Speaker 1: It unrelated to this, Luke, Come on, I could.

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Speaker 3: But I'm not saying anything about it. I'm not saying

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01:43:03,280 --> 01:43:04,400
Speaker 3: anything about that you.

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01:43:04,479 --> 01:43:06,120
Speaker 1: Did you just did Wow.

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01:43:07,040 --> 01:43:09,800
Speaker 3: But I will say that is fucking hilarious. And I

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01:43:09,920 --> 01:43:11,080
Speaker 3: cried when I saw that the first.

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01:43:11,240 --> 01:43:13,479
Speaker 1: I mean that I did. So. We never see these

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01:43:13,520 --> 01:43:16,439
Speaker 1: ahead of time unless they are like either borderline we

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01:43:16,479 --> 01:43:18,960
Speaker 1: can't use them, or they're just so funny. Mikey can't wait.

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01:43:19,240 --> 01:43:21,240
Speaker 1: He did send us that one, and I was laughing

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Speaker 1: until I was crying. And I will say, ultimately, here, Luke,

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01:43:24,880 --> 01:43:27,960
Speaker 1: that does remind me of every interaction with DC service

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01:43:28,000 --> 01:43:30,679
Speaker 1: workers that I had many different skin colors.

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Speaker 3: To be fair, it's very weird. I know that you

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01:43:32,360 --> 01:43:34,360
Speaker 3: think everyone thinks you're funny, but I keep trying to

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01:43:34,360 --> 01:43:36,160
Speaker 3: explain to you only a select few of us. I'm

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Speaker 3: one of them. I'm one of them.

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Speaker 1: That's a hell of a fans up right there at.

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Speaker 3: Wes was very right there, very good.

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Speaker 1: Our final entry comes from a guy who is among

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Speaker 1: the best at this. They call him Alan w. He's

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01:43:48,160 --> 01:43:51,439
Speaker 1: a great supporter of our podcast and we appreciate him.

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01:43:51,600 --> 01:43:55,240
Speaker 1: He's very international, man of mystery type fella. Here's what

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01:43:55,360 --> 01:43:58,240
Speaker 1: he's got. He's the first one is Morning Combat presents

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01:43:59,120 --> 01:44:04,360
Speaker 1: Flight eleven, Newark Transit and Orange super Bowl my god,

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01:44:08,040 --> 01:44:13,320
Speaker 1: oh my what Okay, I totally want that poster, but

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01:44:13,360 --> 01:44:15,360
Speaker 1: I really want you to have to be John Candy.

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01:44:15,439 --> 01:44:18,439
Speaker 1: I think it would work better that way, Luke and

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01:44:18,520 --> 01:44:21,720
Speaker 1: me be uncomfortable next to you. But that's brilliant.

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01:44:21,840 --> 01:44:24,840
Speaker 3: Wow, it was Steve Martin and John Candy, right.

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01:44:25,080 --> 01:44:27,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I want to be Steve Martin in

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01:44:27,400 --> 01:44:28,760
Speaker 1: this Sam'd be John Candy.

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01:44:28,800 --> 01:44:31,400
Speaker 3: I don't really care it either way, although the use

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01:44:31,439 --> 01:44:33,640
Speaker 3: of the faces is perfect for this particular one that

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01:44:33,680 --> 01:44:37,240
Speaker 3: they did. That orange super U that's literally what BC's

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01:44:37,280 --> 01:44:37,840
Speaker 3: card looks like.

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Speaker 1: It's that Yeah, and you know, never forget on top

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01:44:40,760 --> 01:44:40,920
Speaker 1: of that?

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01:44:41,200 --> 01:44:42,679
Speaker 3: Would you forget when.

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01:44:44,320 --> 01:44:47,160
Speaker 1: I stopped that? The next one from Alan w Is

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01:44:47,160 --> 01:44:48,000
Speaker 1: called The Rock.

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Speaker 3: Winners Go Home and Fuck the Prom Queen Your best.

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01:44:53,760 --> 01:44:56,280
Speaker 3: Only losers want about their best. Do you remember that line?

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01:44:56,600 --> 01:44:58,160
Speaker 1: Yes? Yeah? Great movie great.

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01:44:58,280 --> 01:45:00,880
Speaker 3: When the Sean Connery turns around to Nick Cage, he's like,

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01:45:00,960 --> 01:45:06,439
Speaker 3: your besh, you're beshed. Uh, Only losers whine about their best.

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01:45:06,560 --> 01:45:08,920
Speaker 3: Winners go home and fuck the prom queen and he

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01:45:08,960 --> 01:45:11,040
Speaker 3: goes Carla was the prom queen.

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Speaker 1: That Long Island. Luke on the left there, Luke.

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01:45:14,400 --> 01:45:16,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, he looks like a fucking Barista murderer.

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Speaker 5: That's like the AI version of me.

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01:45:18,800 --> 01:45:21,080
Speaker 3: Again, that's a great one too.

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01:45:21,160 --> 01:45:24,160
Speaker 1: That's great. The third one from Alan Dubbs is d

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01:45:24,520 --> 01:45:26,439
Speaker 1: wo's dunk Pack.

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Speaker 3: Donk World Order. So that's Long Island Luke. That's me

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01:45:30,040 --> 01:45:30,920
Speaker 3: looking oldest ship.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's us Kevin Nash.

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01:45:33,160 --> 01:45:37,439
Speaker 3: That's look like every man in Florida who's ever used

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01:45:37,439 --> 01:45:39,000
Speaker 3: the N word at a Chili's?

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01:45:39,360 --> 01:45:41,600
Speaker 1: Is that me as Buff Bagwell or Scott Hall? I

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01:45:41,600 --> 01:45:43,639
Speaker 1: can't tell him the right, but on the left that's

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01:45:43,720 --> 01:45:47,320
Speaker 1: definitely x poc aka the one two three Kid aka

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01:45:47,439 --> 01:45:50,240
Speaker 1: a few other names there, Sean Waltman. Wow, with the

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01:45:50,280 --> 01:45:53,480
Speaker 1: bong in hand and the do rag Dude. That's great

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01:45:53,760 --> 01:45:57,559
Speaker 1: Donk World Order, shout it out, Wow, I love it. Finally,

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01:45:57,960 --> 01:46:00,800
Speaker 1: choose your co host as the final offering from Allen w.

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01:46:01,720 --> 01:46:05,800
Speaker 3: So we got Glizzie DC. That's is that Zoe or

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01:46:05,800 --> 01:46:06,599
Speaker 3: who who is that?

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01:46:06,600 --> 01:46:07,799
Speaker 1: That's Red? That's Red's.

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01:46:08,479 --> 01:46:11,080
Speaker 3: Then you got the athlete Bronzetatter. Then you got me

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01:46:11,200 --> 01:46:13,439
Speaker 3: just smoking a vape like a piece of shit. You

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01:46:13,560 --> 01:46:17,040
Speaker 3: got weird ass scorpion Chuck Mindenhall. Then you just got

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Speaker 3: I mean, have you have you seen Long Island, Luke,

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01:46:19,160 --> 01:46:21,000
Speaker 3: I don't know. Have you seen someone begging for change

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01:46:21,000 --> 01:46:22,479
Speaker 3: out of train station? You've seen?

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01:46:22,560 --> 01:46:23,400
Speaker 1: Who's the other guy?

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01:46:23,800 --> 01:46:24,479
Speaker 2: That Ed?

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01:46:25,000 --> 01:46:28,120
Speaker 3: Jed looking a little bit like Dan Hardy a little bit, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, a little bit, a little bit. Wow, well done,

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01:46:31,240 --> 01:46:33,080
Speaker 1: Allen w answer everybody.

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01:46:33,080 --> 01:46:33,760
Speaker 3: That's who you're picking.

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01:46:33,760 --> 01:46:35,880
Speaker 1: There, you're picking shut out the West. Shout out to

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01:46:35,960 --> 01:46:40,360
Speaker 1: Chef Caz, Shout out to Jonas Cgluns, Teddy. We appreciate

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01:46:40,360 --> 01:46:43,280
Speaker 1: you guys. Great great fan subs, and I'm told there's

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01:46:43,320 --> 01:46:45,920
Speaker 1: a lot more left for next week. Continue to send

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01:46:45,960 --> 01:46:48,720
Speaker 1: in dead wrongs and fan subs, or just reach out

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01:46:48,720 --> 01:46:52,320
Speaker 1: to the show and complain at Morning Combat at gmail

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01:46:52,760 --> 01:46:57,240
Speaker 1: dot com. Tell tell Mikey, don't tell Mikey, show Mikey.

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01:46:57,400 --> 01:47:02,639
Speaker 1: Right there it is there. It is one more time

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01:47:02,720 --> 01:47:06,320
Speaker 1: to close the program here on this holiday weekend, Morning

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Speaker 1: Combat Merch is not only back, the new July exclusives

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01:47:10,360 --> 01:47:13,439
Speaker 1: are live. I'm wearing one of them. It is the

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01:47:13,520 --> 01:47:18,000
Speaker 1: official Technical Thriller shirt with BC dressed up like dead

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01:47:18,080 --> 01:47:20,720
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson in the Thriller video. And how about the

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01:47:20,760 --> 01:47:25,360
Speaker 1: one two three margaritas with Luke Thomas and Sesame Street

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01:47:25,400 --> 01:47:28,519
Speaker 1: Garb then you got the new posters. We have signed versions,

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01:47:28,520 --> 01:47:32,360
Speaker 1: we have unsigned versions of the Luca poster. They're brought

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01:47:32,360 --> 01:47:35,719
Speaker 1: to you by Average Joe R. It's more Incombat dot Shop.

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Speaker 1: Check it out. That's a great it's the best way

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01:47:38,680 --> 01:47:41,760
Speaker 1: to support this program. The money goes directly to us.

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01:47:41,760 --> 01:47:45,800
Speaker 1: So thank you guys, very very much. Fantastic show, Luke,

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01:47:45,800 --> 01:47:49,559
Speaker 1: we made We made a lemonade out of shit, right?

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01:47:49,640 --> 01:47:50,799
Speaker 1: Is that the old phrase?

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01:47:50,960 --> 01:47:53,280
Speaker 3: Yes, that's the phrase, make shit lemonade?

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01:47:53,800 --> 01:47:55,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, there it is. Are we really gonna go to

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01:47:55,880 --> 01:47:58,599
Speaker 1: w WWF in your house MK style? This is really

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01:47:58,600 --> 01:47:59,040
Speaker 1: gonna happen?

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01:47:59,080 --> 01:48:00,760
Speaker 3: I mean, we can talk about it. There's probably some

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01:48:00,920 --> 01:48:03,280
Speaker 3: legal ease we'd have to figure out, but I'm I

2233
01:48:03,280 --> 01:48:04,840
Speaker 3: think it would be one of the best things that

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01:48:04,880 --> 01:48:06,479
Speaker 3: we could do for the show in its current state.

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01:48:07,760 --> 01:48:10,320
Speaker 1: So we'll get the grill ready in the backyard in Louisville.

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01:48:10,320 --> 01:48:10,880
Speaker 1: All right, let's go.

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01:48:11,240 --> 01:48:14,120
Speaker 3: We'll go to Chef Caz and we'll steal his shit.

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01:48:14,320 --> 01:48:18,920
Speaker 3: We'll document it and then dare him to sue us.

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01:48:20,040 --> 01:48:22,120
Speaker 1: Good stuff, right there, great show.

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Speaker 3: The worse your town, the better because then it gives

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01:48:27,280 --> 01:48:29,479
Speaker 3: us things to mock everything about. When we're like doing

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01:48:29,520 --> 01:48:30,720
Speaker 3: a tour of the town. You know what I mean,

2243
01:48:30,800 --> 01:48:32,320
Speaker 3: tour of Tafa.

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01:48:32,680 --> 01:48:35,040
Speaker 1: Go see Big Chicken. You can like the show, you

2245
01:48:35,040 --> 01:48:37,960
Speaker 1: can subscribe on YouTube. Shout out to everybody watching the

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01:48:38,040 --> 01:48:41,040
Speaker 1: DraftKings Network and of course those audio only fans. We

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01:48:41,120 --> 01:48:43,719
Speaker 1: hear you guys too, or maybe you hear us. Follow

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01:48:43,760 --> 01:48:47,559
Speaker 1: our extended YouTube channels right there. Also support Long Island.

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01:48:47,600 --> 01:48:51,360
Speaker 1: Luke in the main card minute Lil no fights of

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Speaker 1: note this weekend? Will you be a great boyfriend?

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01:48:54,160 --> 01:48:54,519
Speaker 3: I will?

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01:48:54,560 --> 01:48:56,479
Speaker 5: Holiday weekend? Happy fourth to everyone.

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01:48:56,560 --> 01:48:58,240
Speaker 2: No stream for me. I did do like a live

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01:48:58,320 --> 01:49:01,120
Speaker 2: chat kind of thing yesterday to get something this week.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I'll be back next week with bet breakdowns.

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01:49:03,320 --> 01:49:04,880
Speaker 2: You already know, all right?

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01:49:05,000 --> 01:49:07,160
Speaker 3: What about? Can I say one thing to the audience

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01:49:07,200 --> 01:49:11,320
Speaker 3: about this weekend? Yeah, don't drink and drive. Please, don't

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01:49:11,320 --> 01:49:13,800
Speaker 3: fucking do that. No drinking and driving. Get an uber,

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01:49:13,880 --> 01:49:16,639
Speaker 3: get a lift, ride a bike, walk, do something. You're

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01:49:16,640 --> 01:49:19,280
Speaker 3: gonna go out and drink. Don't drink and drive.

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01:49:19,479 --> 01:49:21,599
Speaker 1: Please all sleep in the men's room at your favorite

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01:49:21,640 --> 01:49:22,840
Speaker 1: bar before you drink and drive.

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01:49:23,040 --> 01:49:27,400
Speaker 3: That's right, soil yourself, be a man, but don't human boozing.

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01:49:27,600 --> 01:49:32,800
Speaker 1: There you go, Luke, it's our nation's birthday. You know

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01:49:32,840 --> 01:49:34,519
Speaker 1: what I mean? How many years is it?

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01:49:35,160 --> 01:49:36,120
Speaker 3: I don't know a bunch?

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01:49:36,640 --> 01:49:40,360
Speaker 1: All right? What's the next big one? Two seventy six?

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01:49:41,960 --> 01:49:43,799
Speaker 3: Well that would be three hundred years? Yeah?

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01:49:43,960 --> 01:49:45,880
Speaker 1: Oh so is there gonna be two fifty? One's two

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01:49:45,960 --> 01:49:46,519
Speaker 1: fifty luke?

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01:49:47,560 --> 01:49:48,080
Speaker 5: Next year?

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01:49:48,400 --> 01:49:49,600
Speaker 3: Next year? Yeah?

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01:49:49,640 --> 01:49:53,719
Speaker 1: Wow? What's that? Like the Susque centennial or some bullshit

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01:49:53,800 --> 01:49:54,040
Speaker 1: like that.

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure how they would describe two to fifty, but.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, maybe we can get to two hundred

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01:49:58,920 --> 01:50:00,640
Speaker 1: and fifty thousand on YouTube subscribers.

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01:50:00,640 --> 01:50:02,800
Speaker 3: Probably not, but we're gonna have to show a lot

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01:50:02,800 --> 01:50:03,360
Speaker 3: more butthole.

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01:50:03,720 --> 01:50:07,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, have to show Corey Sanaagan's balls to get there.

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01:50:08,000 --> 01:50:10,400
Speaker 1: That's the show for the week. Guys, enjoy yourselves. Will

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01:50:10,439 --> 01:50:11,760
Speaker 1: be back on Monday. Look what the hell are we

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01:50:11,760 --> 01:50:12,679
Speaker 1: going to talk about on Monday?

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01:50:12,720 --> 01:50:14,960
Speaker 3: I have no idea, but we'll figure it out, all.

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01:50:15,120 --> 01:50:17,160
Speaker 1: Right, that's up to us. It's up to you guys

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01:50:17,200 --> 01:50:19,880
Speaker 1: to be safe. Don't blow off your digits for l

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Speaker 1: I L L T. This is BC. Take care of you, guys, Okay,

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Speaker 1: take care of yourselves. Have a great weekend. We are