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Speaker 1: This is straight fire with Jason McIntyre.

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Speaker 2: What is up, Bam, It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight Bowyer

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Speaker 2: for what is today, Wednesday, February twenty fifth. You can

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Speaker 2: tell I'm very happy tonight. Even though the Lakers suffered

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Speaker 2: a tough loss to the Orlando Magic.

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Speaker 3: End of the game, they had a chance. Luca had

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Speaker 3: an opening and didn't take the three. Lebron's forced to

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Speaker 3: take a terrible shot. Lakers lose by one to Orlando.

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Speaker 3: Just a tough loss. I mean, you gotta beat Orlando.

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Speaker 4: They're good.

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Speaker 3: I mean they were a good team in the East.

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Speaker 3: I don't think they're quite a contender, no, Wagner, I

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Speaker 3: don't know. It's just Luca eight of twenty four, twenty two,

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Speaker 3: fifteen and nine. But it wasn't enough and Austin reasons,

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Speaker 3: some kind of funk here out of the All Star break.

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Speaker 3: Not great. We had a big Men's League finale, regular

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Speaker 3: season finale, playing our rivals, our friends, really and they

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Speaker 3: beat us. They so two seasons ago we swept them,

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Speaker 3: won the title. Last season they swept us, won the title.

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Speaker 3: They won the season opener. We weren't at full strength.

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Speaker 3: We won last night. They were neither of us were

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Speaker 3: at full strength. We only had six folks. I know,

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Speaker 3: you guys don't give a rats ass about men's league basketball,

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Speaker 3: but my gosh, I came out and I had probably

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Speaker 3: the best half I've had this season. It was just

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Speaker 3: thirty minutes, thirty five minutes, getting a good sweat, rest up,

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Speaker 3: I'm lot, you know. I I got shots up and

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Speaker 3: I did that, and first three shots all felt pure.

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Speaker 3: It's just a weird thing, like it's the equivalent of

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Speaker 3: like shoot around that NBA guys have. But I did.

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Speaker 3: I went a little bit too hard, thinking we had

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Speaker 3: the end of the game, both calves tighten up, and

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Speaker 3: I'm like, oh no, no, no, it's just listen, these

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Speaker 3: are old man problems. But you guys don't care. Anyways,

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Speaker 3: We've got a great guest today, Ben Garcia. So if

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Speaker 3: you guys have noticed I'm doing I'm posting more videos

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Speaker 3: on TikTok, YouTube, Instagram, Twitter. You kind of have to.

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Speaker 3: It's it's part of the game. You have to do it.

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Speaker 3: You can't just not do anything. You got to build

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Speaker 3: and I don't have the energy. I don't have the skill.

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Speaker 3: So Ben has a lot of skills. He's a young guy,

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Speaker 3: in Arizona regards to in regard to sports there, he's

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Speaker 3: kind of one of these, like you know, popular voices

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Speaker 3: on social media when it comes to the Phoenix Suns

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Speaker 3: Arizona Cardinals, and so I brought them on just because

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Speaker 3: there's some Kyler Murrie stuff happening. It seems like he's

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Speaker 3: gonna get cut here soon. Shockingly, the Sun's trade Kevin

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Speaker 3: Durant and got better. I think you guys all liked

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Speaker 3: the discussion. Also decent night on the college basketball hardwood. Duke.

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Speaker 3: If anybody fate tried to fade Duke off the win

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Speaker 3: over Michigan Duke beating Notre Dame by forty four in

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Speaker 3: an absolute beatdown. Michigan did not totally live up to

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Speaker 3: it's interesting because that Illinois Michigan game Friday is gonna

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Speaker 3: I just think it's a great matchup. And the team

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Speaker 3: were excellent last night, coming from behind late to beat Baylor,

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Speaker 3: and Arizona team is scary, and they are doing counter

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Speaker 3: to what everyone else is doing. Everyone else's pace and threes,

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Speaker 3: in March Madness. All right, without further ado, let's get

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Speaker 3: to our guest, Ben Garcia from the Lockdown Suns podcast.

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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Speaker 1: listen live. You know, Jason likes to think he knows

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Speaker 1: everything when it comes to sports.

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Speaker 3: I know what sports fans.

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Speaker 1: Want, but for everything he doesn't. He knows a guy

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Speaker 4: Let's just say, I know a guy who knows the

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Speaker 3: All right, let's welcome into straight fire. Oh boy, an

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Speaker 3: instrumental voice in Phoenix. He's moving markets, he's shaping opinions,

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Speaker 3: He's pissing people off. I mean, did I miss anything,

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Speaker 3: Ben Garcia? How you doing?

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Speaker 1: A man?

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Speaker 4: I think the latter part of those things was probably

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Speaker 4: the most true. Whether it's Eddie Johnson pissing him off

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Speaker 4: early on in the year for God knows ornery, Oh God,

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Speaker 4: he got upset with me because I dared to say

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Speaker 3: But I former Miami Heat, I didn't know he was

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Speaker 3: still in the league. So great, obviously, Listen, Ben's got

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Speaker 3: very exciting. He's got a Phoenix Suns team that's like

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Speaker 3: He's got a quarterback in Kyler Murray who a year ago,

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Speaker 3: I mean, Ben, there's a lot happening. I don't know

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Speaker 3: with your boy Kevin Durant, who's on a burner, ripped

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Speaker 3: in former teammates, former coaches, current players. I mean, there's

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Speaker 3: just so much happening in Phoenix sports. Ben, is there

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Speaker 3: an area you'd love to dive into first?

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Speaker 4: I would, actually, I know you called me on originally

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Speaker 4: You don't label him as an enemy because you're older

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Speaker 4: and more season and more professional than I am when

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Speaker 4: it comes to Kevin Durant. But oh, that's interesting. The

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Speaker 4: in last year. Oh that's interesting. The common denominator appears

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Speaker 4: don't know. I think at some point Kevin Durant's got

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Speaker 4: the offense. This is something that I talked about months ago.

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Speaker 4: in his career. But the ball in Houston is now stagnant.

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Speaker 4: You need to get shooters around him. And they turned

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Speaker 3: Can you articulate, you know, in give me the elevator pitch?

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Speaker 3: How the hell have the Phoenix Suns gone? And Matt

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Speaker 1: How have they gone.

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Speaker 4: and they just do enough offensively to get by. Now

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Speaker 4: Absolutely not this team like forget making the playoffs. Like Jason,

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Speaker 3: Yeah years away from that.

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Speaker 4: He's a terrible offensive coordinator. He's a terrible offensive coordinator

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Speaker 3: I like Connor. I thought he was really good. I'm

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Speaker 4: into the end zone against the Titans was because they

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Speaker 4: were decimated at running back. Trey Benson was out for

433
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Speaker 4: eight weeks, James Connor snapped his leg, Mari de Murcatto

434
00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,040
Speaker 4: was injured. At one point, they were running out there,

435
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Speaker 4: Jets legend Michael Carter and Bam Knight.

436
00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:42,320
Speaker 3: We just ran there.

437
00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:45,000
Speaker 4: We just ran the Jets twenty nineteen, running back room

438
00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:48,359
Speaker 4: out there like it's not great and so like they've

439
00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,000
Speaker 4: got issues there. It's one of the things where they

440
00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,119
Speaker 4: keep connecting Britest Hall of the Cardinals, and I'm like,

441
00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:54,960
Speaker 4: let's no, thank you. They're not that close now, Jets.

442
00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,520
Speaker 3: It sounds like they have decided they're gonna either tag

443
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Speaker 3: him or or transition him. Either way, he's not going towhere.

444
00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:05,480
Speaker 3: I love Reesol, So let's see Jacoby Brissett, Kyler, Murray

445
00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:09,320
Speaker 3: Keaton Slovs is the third stringer. And I don't know

446
00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:12,320
Speaker 3: why everybody's so anti And again, I know guys want

447
00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,960
Speaker 3: to keep tying. I'm talking more fans. Do the fans

448
00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:18,280
Speaker 3: who you talk to and and comment and watch do

449
00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,040
Speaker 3: they are they embracing the tank for the opportunity at

450
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Speaker 3: Arch Manning or the kid from Notre Dame or the

451
00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,720
Speaker 3: kid from South Carolina, or whoever comes out of nowhere

452
00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:30,119
Speaker 3: and is the next cam Ward Francisco Mando. There is

453
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Speaker 3: seems to be one every year, a guy who pops

454
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Speaker 3: that we didn't see coming? Or would you rather do that?

455
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Speaker 3: Go that route?

456
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Speaker 4: Well, I would rather tank, Like what would be the

457
00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:46,840
Speaker 4: most mature thing to do that? Well, don't give Malik

458
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Speaker 4: Willis thirty five million dollars a year?

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Speaker 1: Evil?

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Speaker 3: Okay, maybe we'll pi if I understand the number you

461
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Speaker 3: would give Malik Willis, that makes sense.

462
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Speaker 4: I would give him up to Sam Darnolds three year,

463
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Speaker 4: a hundred million dollar contract. And it's not it's not

464
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Speaker 4: like I under stand like, wait a minute.

465
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Speaker 3: Wait, Darnold went fourteen and three. It was awesome in Minnesota. Yeah,

466
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:05,240
Speaker 3: what did Willis to?

467
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,919
Speaker 4: I just said the argument we just had on the

468
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Speaker 4: on so over and are locked on thirty five passes.

469
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Speaker 4: I totally agree with you, obviously that honestly, that might

470
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Speaker 4: be a bit much. I'll go there. But three years

471
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Speaker 4: ninety million, Wow.

472
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Speaker 3: What about two for forty Maybe we'll give him a

473
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Speaker 3: little more than the justice.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So absolutely so before that because before people turn

475
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Speaker 4: this offul I would agree with you. Two years forty

476
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Speaker 4: million is what I thought it would be. But I

477
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Speaker 4: just saw a report from Ian Rappaport today and I

478
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Speaker 4: just used the second a second ago where he talked

479
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Speaker 4: about if New York Jets quarterback Justin Field's got twenty

480
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Speaker 4: million dollars a year, what does Malik Willis get thirty

481
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Speaker 4: thirty five million. That's my guess as to what it is.

482
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Speaker 4: So if he's report are saying that there, okay, so okay,

483
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Speaker 4: So if it if it's twenty million dollars a year,

484
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Speaker 4: then absolutely that's what I want it to be. But

485
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Speaker 4: the argument like, none of that really, none of that

486
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Speaker 4: really matters to me. Even if it's three or one

487
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Speaker 4: hudred million, which again insane, ridiculous, immature number. What do

488
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 4: the Cardinals have to lose? If Malik Willis is awesome

489
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,679
Speaker 4: next year, then the Cardinals rebound quickly and they've got

490
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Speaker 4: the quarterback of the future and he's actually on a

491
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Speaker 4: cheap deal. Now if he's terrible and they front load

492
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Speaker 4: the contract. They just draft his replacement next year, they

493
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Speaker 4: eat his salary.

494
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Speaker 3: But I thought we just agreed. There's a world where

495
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Speaker 3: Malik Willis gets them three or four more wins, and

496
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Speaker 3: if you're in the six to seven win range, you're

497
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Speaker 3: not drafted in top three or four, and now you're

498
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Speaker 3: missing out on the elite quarterbacks.

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Speaker 4: Right well, I think if Malik Willis gets them to

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Speaker 4: six seven wins, I think you're talking about, Oh, you

501
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,960
Speaker 4: might have a franchise quarterback here, Cardinals. Cardinals have other

502
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Speaker 4: issues too, Like Jason, forget about the Cardinals being a

503
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Speaker 4: playoff team this year. They are close to being the

504
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Speaker 4: third place team in their own division. Yes, so like

505
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,120
Speaker 4: they're far away. So that's why I say, like six

506
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Speaker 4: to seven wins, that means they might have lost five

507
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 4: games to Kyle Shit, Mike McDonald and Sean McVay.

508
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Speaker 3: Like, but they're not going any football. So I did

509
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 3: just look it up. Malik Willis is represented by David Mullagetta.

510
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 3: That that that's bad news for somebody. He's a really

511
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,880
Speaker 3: good agent. He got Micah Parsons out of Green Bay, right,

512
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,159
Speaker 3: I would suspect he's working on CJ. Stroud and an

513
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Speaker 3: exit strategy. Even know the Titan Texas do not want

514
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Speaker 3: to move him, and I'm not saying it's happening yet,

515
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,400
Speaker 3: but Mulligeta seems to get what he wants for his clients.

516
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Speaker 3: And maybe somebody's going to overpay for Malik Willis. But man,

517
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Speaker 3: it's gonna be the car thirty to thirty five millions.

518
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Speaker 4: There's only one.

519
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Speaker 3: So one of the reasons, well, the Dolphins, the Dolphins,

520
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:38,719
Speaker 3: the money GM. They don't GM is the guy who

521
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 3: came from Green Bay. Their coach was the Packers DC

522
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Speaker 3: and the new like advisor to the to the front

523
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Speaker 3: office is the guy who drafted Malik Willis. So there's

524
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Speaker 3: a lot of interest there. Now you pointed out the

525
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 3: they're they're strapped. We know that the salary cap is

526
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Speaker 3: just a figment of our imagination and anybody could work

527
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Speaker 3: magic around it. So if they really want him, they'll

528
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Speaker 3: figure that out. Would you would you agree?

529
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Speaker 4: They've got three million in cap space right now and

530
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Speaker 4: they're gonna be in the red when some of these

531
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 4: others contracts kicks in. That's why they're telling everyone, Hey,

532
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,680
Speaker 4: we're open for business on Michaeh Parson or on Minka

533
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,680
Speaker 4: Fitzpatrick when in reality they've just got they've got to

534
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Speaker 4: cut him soon. So I actually think Malik Willis would

535
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Speaker 4: prefer to go to Miami potentially because it's it's familiarity.

536
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 4: But you kind of got to get yours. And if

537
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Speaker 4: the Cardinals are offering you two years fifty million dollars

538
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 4: and Miami's offering you two years thirty million dollars, like

539
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,719
Speaker 4: you might not you you might not even be sure

540
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:39,159
Speaker 4: if you're a starting quarterback of this league and you

541
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 4: got to get yours. I think there's only which is

542
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Speaker 4: why I should have never thrown out the Sam Darnold contract.

543
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 4: That was kind of crazy, but.

544
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Speaker 3: Well not it's crazy hearing what Rapaport is.

545
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Speaker 4: The only suitors. Well you're true, and I.

546
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Speaker 3: Okay, let's go through it. Who are the other potential shooters.

547
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Speaker 3: The Jets are not going to do it, There's just

548
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 3: no way. No, that'd be crazy. The Browns have too

549
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,920
Speaker 3: many quarterbacks on the roster. Have him. I'm looking in

550
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 3: the NFC, I don't Falcons are probably not going to

551
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,360
Speaker 3: do it, right, they have Pennis.

552
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 4: I think now they're not super They've got eleven million

553
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 4: dollars in cap space. Are they gonna do they feel

554
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,120
Speaker 4: like they need, Like the Falcons make way more sense

555
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 4: for Kyler Murray. Like if they're gonna strap, if they're

556
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 4: going to hitch their wagon to someone, it's gonna be

557
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 4: Kyler Murray. Like that would make more sense.

558
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 3: What about like a Colts team that needs a quarterback

559
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 3: for half the season with Daniel Jones likely out of

560
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh Steelers team.

561
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Speaker 4: Well, the Colts are gonna tag Daniel Jones And what

562
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:36,919
Speaker 4: is that and what is that contract going to be?

563
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 4: Fifty million dollars?

564
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 3: Cut off an Achilles?

565
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 4: No way, Well, but it's a it's a franchise tag,

566
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Speaker 4: it's it's a it's a it's a it's a combination

567
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Speaker 4: of the of the top three contracts in the NFL.

568
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Speaker 4: So they don't get to decide that way.

569
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Speaker 3: And I don't think you could tag him. I think

570
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 3: you got to just give him a deal, a team

571
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 3: friendly deal, because nobody else is signing it.

572
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Speaker 4: So let's say they give let's say he gets forty

573
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Speaker 4: million dollars a year with the Colts, because let's say

574
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Speaker 4: thirty five, you're gonna give thirty five to him and

575
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 4: another fifteen to Milik Wills that's.

576
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Speaker 3: Well, what ifructured it so that he doesn't get a

577
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,959
Speaker 3: lot this coming year and there's no pressure in it

578
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 3: because he's coming off the major injury. I mean, the

579
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 3: Colts need somebody. They they do want to make the playoffs,

580
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 3: given that they were what seven and one, eight and

581
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,679
Speaker 3: one and then trade for Sauce Gardner. I mean, they

582
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Speaker 3: they're loaded freezing. They gotta come through. I mean Minnesota Vikings,

583
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 3: they got a quarterback on the rookie deal, but.

584
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Speaker 4: They that's another team. Because I've talked with people in Minnesota,

585
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,199
Speaker 4: I have decent ties that people cover the team Minnesota.

586
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 4: They're interested in Kyler Murray, but they're like, we can't

587
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,719
Speaker 4: afford him. Like that's why the Kyler Murray market is

588
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 4: might be just he's outright cut is because they can't

589
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 4: just outrighte trade for him because they don't have the

590
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 4: cap space to do so. Like the Cardinals again, maybe

591
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 4: the Colts, like that's interesting. The Steelers. Again, I don't

592
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 4: know the Steelers cap situation, but that could be interesting.

593
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 4: But like you have to like the Cardinals are also

594
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,440
Speaker 4: acting out of desperation, which is never a good place

595
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 4: to act out because they're GM's on the hot seat.

596
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 4: Mike McCarthy's not in the hot seat. Shane Steten's definitely

597
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 4: not on the hot seats because it's because his quarterback's injured.

598
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:11,400
Speaker 4: Like when you talk about desperation and the most dollars,

599
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:13,919
Speaker 4: I think the Cardinals are gonna be even if I'm like,

600
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 4: this doesn't feel very mature, it feels like that's what's

601
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 4: going to happen. That's what we saw from Tony Pauline yesterday,

602
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 4: who reported Cardinals appear to be the favorites for him.

603
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 1: Wow.

604
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is gonna be a pretty wild off season

605
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 3: at quarterback. And I don't mean that in a good way.

606
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 3: There's just nobody really good.

607
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 4: Let me ask you this really quickly.

608
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Speaker 3: I think it makes sense to punt and be bad,

609
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 3: but I know that's a tough sell to your owner

610
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 3: unless you outline this ridiculous height. We got a great

611
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 3: three year plan, which is tough. Two year plan might

612
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 3: be better.

613
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Speaker 4: Where do you think Kyler Murray lands unemployment line?

614
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 3: Food tips don't don't. I don't know. Would you rather

615
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 3: go after Tua or Kyler Murray if they're both, If

616
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 3: they're both, if you're in Minnesota, who's less of a headache.

617
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 3: Kyler or Tua.

618
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 4: That's a really good question. I'd rather have Tua. I'd

619
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 4: rather have Tua. He is he he. The injury concern

620
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 4: is a big deal, But what's Kyler's injury concerned? You

621
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 4: just missed eleven games, so Tua metractive. I think Kyler

622
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 4: ends up in Minnesota though.

623
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Speaker 3: Yeah, one of those probably ends up in Minnesota. All right,

624
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 3: we could wrap up Ben. Yeah, what's the most shocking

625
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 3: thing you've learned about fatherhood now that you've got a

626
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 3: little baby.

627
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 4: I actually didn't realize how much I would love it

628
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 4: in early Here's why. Here's why. Here's why. Because everyone

629
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 4: told me, you know, man, you're gonna get no sleep,

630
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 4: and you're gonna hate changing diapers, and you're gonna like

631
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 4: it's gonna be really hard. It is really hard, and

632
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 4: I'm working on about two brain cells and four hours

633
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 4: of sleep since my daughter has been born. But there's

634
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 4: something is really cool about the middle of the night

635
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 4: my daughter screaming, and I get up and I'm the

636
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 4: only person who can help rock her, Like that's a

637
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 4: fun bonding moment to have with my daughter. And we're

638
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 4: just hanging out at one am and trying to soothe

639
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 4: her back to sleep. The other thing is I knew

640
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 4: I wasn't ready, because no one's ready. You didn't know

641
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 4: I didn't know how not ready I was. And what

642
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 4: continues to ring through my head was something you said

643
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 4: on the Herd years ago. It was like, I don't

644
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 4: know what the I don't know what the situation was,

645
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 4: but you were like, it's kind of crazy that you

646
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 4: have this kid and the hospital just says, okay, see

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Speaker 4: you later, take care of that human, make sure it

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Speaker 4: doesn't die. And I've just that's always bring up like

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Speaker 4: I don't have any experience. I'm just winging it, and

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Speaker 4: so I enjoy it, but also like I was, I

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Speaker 4: definitely am not ready.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you just triggered a memory. So I know, like

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Speaker 3: afternoon or whatever it is, five of them, five naps, right,

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Speaker 3: And so the kid would never nap with me. My

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Speaker 3: do was put them down, deal with the crying, and

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Speaker 3: then I would get the vacuum cleaner, which is kind

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Speaker 3: of soothing, you know, white noise, and I would run

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Speaker 3: So you're just sitting there going over the five spots

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Speaker 3: as they cry themselves asleep, and the vacuum cleaner is

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Speaker 3: kind of soothing as white noise. And I remember that now.

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Speaker 3: At the moment, I was just like, come on, I

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Speaker 3: can't believe I'm doing this. Like, you gotta do what

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Speaker 3: you gotta do, right.

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Speaker 4: You gotta do what you gotta do. I me and

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Speaker 4: my wife have had had that discussion already. But it's, uh,

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Speaker 4: it's been It's been cool, man. It's been fun to

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Speaker 4: become to become a dad. Everyone's kind of told me

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Speaker 4: is like, oh, what about your career. I'm like, I'll

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Speaker 4: make them both work. I've been doing it. Figure it out.

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Speaker 3: Great stuff. Ben Garcia time locked on Sun's podcast. He's

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Speaker 3: a great social media guy. He's really good with videos.

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Speaker 3: He does all my videos on social media. He's the

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Speaker 3: man dude.

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Speaker 4: Thanks a lot, Ben, appreciate you having me, man,