1 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke. 2 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 1: I'm your host, Coleen Witt, and today we have a 3 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: very very special guest, Nick Cannon is in the building. 4 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 2: Here weird blessing and salutations. 5 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: Yes, and you are very nice enough to let us 6 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: come to your studio. 7 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 3: In my kitchen. Your kitchen, Your kitchen is nothing but candy. 8 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: Yes it's color. I've hit a couple of the M 9 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: and ms rated a couple of candies. Try not to 10 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 1: break any seals on the candy that hasn't been open. 11 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 2: I mean, that's what it is here for. Though we 12 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:45,239 Speaker 2: always replenishing because people go through this because obviously we 13 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 2: film the day, the Cannon Council, culture, Cannons, class everything here. 14 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 2: It's a music studio as well. Started off as a 15 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 2: music studio. And if you've ever been in long nights 16 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 2: in the studio, you always got the munchies and want snacks. 17 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 3: So I'm a candy crackhead. 18 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 2: So I got one of these, and like every one 19 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 2: of my offices in every house I got, I always 20 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 2: gotta have like a candy candy room. 21 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: I just have one question. Out of all these candies, 22 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 1: this candy, that's the cotton candy, Hot Tomorrow. 23 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 3: Hot to Cotton candy. 24 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 1: Does someone just randomly go places and say, let me 25 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 1: just find the most random candy I could find me. 26 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 2: I do that. 27 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:22,559 Speaker 1: So you found that candy? 28 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 2: Yeah? I think that got that in Las Vegas? 29 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: Did you actually try it? 30 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 3: I always buy one to try and then like one. 31 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Like I even think, like I usually keep 32 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 2: from like stuff like japan and sweeten and I think 33 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 2: having all types of stuff like don't the word like 34 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 2: easter bunny warheads and like it's I'm literally about this candy, 35 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 2: like like anything that's like. 36 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 3: Blue raspberry lemon. 37 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 2: The sweetish fish from swedenh Wow, It's it's crazy. 38 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: So I'm just curious. How was the hot candy cotton candy? 39 00:01:57,440 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 2: I would rather have them separate. 40 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: I like candy like Hot Tomorrow together icy and it's 41 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: got centniment in it. 42 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 2: It's just it's just I mean, it's it's it's cool, 43 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 2: but it wasn't. 44 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 3: That's why that's up there. 45 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw it. So my daughter came in here 46 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: and I completely forgotten the first thing. She's like, Mommy, 47 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:17,639 Speaker 1: let me get that, let me get that. 48 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 2: This look like oh yeah, because what I mean Also 49 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 2: I'm a I'm a health freak too, so I do 50 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 2: recognize all this is poison. This is like none of 51 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:28,959 Speaker 2: this stuff is good for you. But you know there's 52 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 2: another section in this place where it's all about health 53 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 2: and wellness. And I do understand that life is all 54 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 2: about balance. So for me, I know how to have fun. 55 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 2: I don't do drugs. I don't drink alcohol. You know, 56 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:43,119 Speaker 2: so like if I had to have, you know, one 57 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 2: major vice in life, it would most likely be candy 58 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 2: and women. That's too right, Yeah that's true. 59 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 3: But one has me in the dinnist a lot, and 60 00:02:55,880 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 3: one has me with a lot of kids. 61 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: So now I asked you take me back to what 62 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 1: you were eating when you were broke. I'm guessing you 63 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: being broke had to have been in your early teens. 64 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I still got a broke mentality. 65 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 2: I'm one of those people you can never take the 66 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:21,679 Speaker 2: hood out of me, and that's why I still eat 67 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 2: a lot of this stuff to this day. But I 68 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 2: know this is you know, I can't cook, so like 69 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 2: it's certain things that because all my life I've probably 70 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 2: been on the grind and working, so I never learned 71 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 2: how to cook. That was always my grandmother, my mom. 72 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 2: I can make simple stuff like eggs. I can make eggs, 73 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 2: you know, like if I have to. I actually love 74 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 2: when it goes comes to my healthy stuff. I eat 75 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 2: at least two to four boiled eggs every day, so 76 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 2: I know how to do that myself. 77 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: The boiled eggs. 78 00:03:55,160 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, boiler it's just as long as you don't break them. 79 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 2: That's the train. 80 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: I thought that was an earthquake. 81 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 2: Sometimes sometimes because there's an earthquakes, sometimes you can't tell 82 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 2: the difference or was the earthquake or was the train. 83 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna lie. Bar Me was like, whoa 84 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: that right. 85 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 3: Next to the train track. 86 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 2: But yeah, so I still love this stuff that we're 87 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 2: gonna do today. 88 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 3: I still eat this. 89 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 2: Stuff as snacks and these technically most of them are 90 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 2: like on the healthier side, especially you know the ones 91 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 2: I have with the fruit. 92 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: So so walk our guests through it. 93 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 2: It was when we started with a three course meal. 94 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 2: So yes, we got we got the appetizer, we got 95 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 2: the main course, and we got the dessert. 96 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 1: Okay, let's start with the appetizer. 97 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 2: Okay, so the appetizer to me is because you gotta 98 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 2: try this too, right, the appetizers both eating this, I 99 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 2: want to take it, but this one is probably the 100 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 2: only one that you might be like, yo, that's a 101 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 2: little bit out there is the sunflowers. First of all, 102 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 2: in the hood, I'm scared flower seats. And this is 103 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 2: I started this before there were flavored some flower seeds. 104 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 2: Back in the day, you could just get the David 105 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 2: some flower seeds. They would sell them at the ice 106 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 2: cream truck. You had a little bag and then a 107 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 2: big bag, and we just would want them to taste different. 108 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 2: And it was at the time where salt and vinegar 109 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 2: chips were out, so I was like, yo, why. 110 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 3: Don't they have salt and vinegar sunflower seeds. So went 111 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 3: my mama's cabinet. 112 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, I guess I'm regular. I prefer, you know, 113 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 2: the the white vinegar, but you can get the apple cider. 114 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 1: I didn't know what. I was like, I can't, this 115 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: is gonna. 116 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 2: Be behind and usually you gotta maybe you gotta let 117 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 2: it sit and marinate for a while. The only thing 118 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 2: about this because if you let it sit and marinate, 119 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 2: they get soft, and so you can kind of like 120 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:57,919 Speaker 2: it's a vibe. 121 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: I can honestly say I've never in life ever ever 122 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: did this. 123 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 2: So I mean it's some hood this, This might be 124 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 2: some San Diego likes to just literally have vinegar. It's 125 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 2: just like regular some flower seeds. But I would probably 126 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 2: let them sit and something. We would put it right 127 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 2: in the bag and just shake it up and how 128 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 2: your fingers stinking. But it's really delicious, sir, hilarious. 129 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 1: So I did peek that about some flower seeds today, 130 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: that there were flavors. It was almost impossible to get 131 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,239 Speaker 1: plain really had everything. 132 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 2: Now they done turned up as you see right there. 133 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: Right when I walked in, I was like, look at 134 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: all these sunflower seeds right here eating it. 135 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 3: I eat some flower seats like crazy, like that's. 136 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 1: My whole you did you try one right now? 137 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 2: I did. 138 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 3: That's why I'm talking. 139 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 2: It's a little it's right, it's cool right all day, 140 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 2: perfect appetiser snack. 141 00:06:56,640 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: You know what the vinegar really works? I can, Yeah, 142 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 1: that's impressibly good. 143 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 2: I'm telling you. Normally you need a paper towel something 144 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 2: to spit it into. But that's just like one of 145 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 2: my favorite hood hood snacks right there to where thank you. 146 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 2: I'm still to this day like no matter all this 147 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 2: stuff I got. 148 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 3: I'll make this. Go watch a movie. 149 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:31,119 Speaker 1: I feel like your brother eat this. Huh yeah, okay, okay, 150 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 1: shout outs to this appetizer is a win, yes, okay. 151 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 2: And it's very ghetto, ghetto fabulous. 152 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: It's good. It's actually impressively good. I would have never 153 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: thought to do this wrong. All right, So we survived 154 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: the We survived. It survived the sult and vinegar sunflower seasons. 155 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: A plus for appetizer. What's the main course? 156 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 3: All right? 157 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 2: Now the way we're gonna rock the main course. I 158 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 2: literally to eat this for dinner because I was broke, 159 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 2: so even you know, growing up in. 160 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:06,239 Speaker 3: The projects in the hood. 161 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 2: This was like when my grandmother or mom was at 162 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 2: work or doing something and I had to eat and 163 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 2: thin for myself. 164 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 3: This is this was like my favorite thing I was. 165 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 2: I didn't want to eat all of the other stuff 166 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 2: that you know, was forced upon me. This was like 167 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 2: my favorite meal. And it was one or two others. 168 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 2: I am a fiend for hot sauce. 169 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 3: I collect them. 170 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 2: I got a bunch of different ones, but the crystal is, 171 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 2: as I call it, the crystal is my favorite. 172 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: So they corrected us here. They were like, hey, don't 173 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: put it because we put another one out and there 174 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: it's like you don't have the crystals. It was like 175 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: we do, and it was like only put the crystals. 176 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 2: For that's the thing too, Like hold on because you 177 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 2: got there's two styles of this, so you could go, 178 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 2: I'm gonna walk over here. You can go crystal, or 179 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 2: you can go a little more Spanish and go. I 180 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:54,559 Speaker 2: would see you guys, probably get a shot of this. 181 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 2: This is literally just just a whole thing of hot 182 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 2: sauce and oh my goodness, oh they bugging they ran out. 183 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 3: All right, we'll go with this one. 184 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:13,719 Speaker 1: But I got like ten bottles of ten they ran 185 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: out of top of TiO. Maybe, dude, you know what 186 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: I was gonna bring type of TiO, but I wasn't 187 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 1: too sure if it would. 188 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 2: Count somebody it might be upstairs. But anyways, we got 189 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 2: the other one, so you can you can do this 190 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 2: Louisiana style or you could do the Mexican version. 191 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 3: We canna do the We'll use the Valentina on that one. 192 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 2: So just because I love hot sauce on any and everything, 193 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,079 Speaker 2: and sometimes all we had was either. 194 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 3: Mic awave popcorn and literally we would eat that for dinner. 195 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: So eat that for dinner. 196 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:50,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, because I mean, when you think about it, it'll fill 197 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 2: you up, and like you can get like a whole 198 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 2: box of it for like five dollars. 199 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 3: And kids love popcorn, so I didn't know. I thought 200 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 3: it was a treat. Literally eat a bag. 201 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 2: Of popcorn for once. Once I was a teenager on 202 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 2: my own. I couldn't cook, so I'll just eat popcorn 203 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:10,439 Speaker 2: for dinner. And I would put hot sauce on it. 204 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:14,679 Speaker 2: So sorry, So I'm gonna do. I'm gonna pip, I'm 205 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 2: gonna put the Louisiana. 206 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: Okay, so this is dinner you never had, you never had. 207 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:25,559 Speaker 1: I'm not a hot sauce fan, Okay, I'm really taking 208 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:26,439 Speaker 1: one form team today. 209 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 2: This is Pete and poetic Justice. 210 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 3: Janet Jackson did this. She was eating the hot sauce 211 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 3: and popcorn. I was like, yo, That's why I knew 212 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 3: he was kindred spirits. 213 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 2: It was my type of woman. So we're gonna do now. 214 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:44,959 Speaker 2: You can still and even I'll put it a little 215 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 2: bit on on the laced potato chips. That's the other 216 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 2: thing we had a lot of. But I'm gonna give you. 217 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you that the main kind of vibe. 218 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 2: And even if like this is the hot sauce. If 219 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 2: you see the street vendors and they making like whatever, 220 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 2: they have like different type of Mexican snacks, they use 221 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 2: this type or you're like you put this on Tomalwi's 222 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 2: and all of that type of stuff. 223 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: So this, oh, this one looks legit. 224 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the so I want. I'm gonna want you 225 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:17,719 Speaker 2: to taste one of both. If you don't like hot sauce, I. 226 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 1: Go my water here, I should have had milk or something, right, Okay, 227 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: I'm preparing. I'm prepared. 228 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 3: Should be easy on that. 229 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 1: Okay, here we go, Here we go. That's not bad 230 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: at all. 231 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 3: I'm a hot sauce lover. 232 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 1: I feel like Martin Lawrence, remember Martin Lawrence. Just be 233 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 1: like right, like, that's not that bad now. The dark 234 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: color scares me. 235 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, you gotta just take Here we go. 236 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: Jesus be with me. 237 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 3: That's gonna be hot for you. Your whole pip. 238 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: Nick, you know a lot of the ways to walk. 239 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 3: I love it. That's our main course. We went. We 240 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 3: went Casun and Mexican, two of my favorite types of foods. 241 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: So that wasn't even that bad though I survived it, 242 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 1: not that bad. Would never do it again in life, 243 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 1: but not that bad. 244 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 2: All right. 245 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 3: So now we're trying to you ready to go to dessert. 246 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 1: Man, I'm looking at this watermelon. You keep looking at lemons? 247 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: All right, what's dessert? 248 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 2: Because I'm the you gotta try the limits before the 249 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:36,319 Speaker 2: water because just again another thing. Growing up, didn't have 250 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 2: a lot, but we may do what we had so 251 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 2: paper plated that we don't have no paper places here today, 252 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 2: or do we have a we do? 253 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 3: I think I think we got paper plates. We still 254 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 3: keep it a little ghetto. 255 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: We had the little ones. Yeah, I thought I thought 256 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 1: to do this, but the table was so small. I 257 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: was like, we're gonna try to make it work. 258 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 3: This is what I used to do. 259 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:01,959 Speaker 2: I used to take regular sugar sure came by the pound, 260 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:06,319 Speaker 2: C and H back in the day, and get a 261 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 2: whole plate. 262 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 3: And now I wasn't really allowed to do this. 263 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 2: My grandmother used to hate when I did it, but 264 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:14,959 Speaker 2: to eat fruit and like fruit, you know, when I'm 265 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:16,959 Speaker 2: not eating candy and stuff, and it's funny enough, like 266 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 2: I'm actually going on a fast next week. 267 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 3: I do it every year at the top of the 268 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 3: year and. 269 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 2: Sometimes I can cut sugar out completely for like six months. 270 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 3: I just I don't set a date or whatever. I 271 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 3: know I got to do at least thirty days. 272 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 2: But I'll just try to do it as long as 273 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 2: possible because I love it so much. 274 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 3: It's all about discipline. 275 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 2: So next Sunday is actually when I start my sugar fast. 276 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 3: So this is probably gonna be. 277 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: I'm going to try and join you on that because 278 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 1: I need to. I've been like telling myself I'm going 279 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:46,439 Speaker 1: to cut it, but like the second I'm in a 280 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 1: room with it, I'm like. 281 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 3: It's posy. 282 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:51,680 Speaker 2: I'm addicted to it, like like I know I'm gonna 283 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 2: add it, but all right. So yeah, So when I 284 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 2: was a kid, I would literally get a paper plate, 285 00:13:57,720 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 2: fill it with sugar. 286 00:13:59,040 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 3: Wasn't supposed to do this. 287 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 2: There would always be lemons from a lemon tree or 288 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 2: something like that. Cut the lemon in half or you know. 289 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 2: Now I'm a little bit more sophisticated, slice it and 290 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 2: just I would literally be sitting watching cartoons and it's 291 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 2: natural candy. 292 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: Like I feel like my daughter would love this, absolutely 293 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 1: love this. 294 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 3: It's amazing. 295 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 2: It's like lemonade. 296 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm like this. 297 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 3: If you like sour, it's a vibe. 298 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: This is amazing, right did you come up with this one? 299 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 3: It was as a kid. This is all I used 300 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 3: to eat. 301 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: Wanted life should have one of these. 302 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 2: That is amazing fire right, so write before my sugar fast. 303 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm a double dip as you should. 304 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 2: Normally you would have your own plate so you can triple, 305 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 2: quadruple get and matter of fact, and then you know 306 00:14:57,560 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 2: now that we really sophisticated. 307 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: Yo, that right there, and you just go ahead and 308 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: sprinkle that right there. 309 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 3: That's the one, right. 310 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: Is the best of the best of the best. 311 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 2: That is a lot of people don't do desserts right. 312 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: Every once in a while we'll get a guest that 313 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: doesn't desert like they'll do like you know, DJ Charismas. 314 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: She did like a tortilla. The last one she did 315 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: like three courses with one tortilla, and she did a 316 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:22,119 Speaker 1: cinnamon sugar. 317 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, because I was thinking nothing, but I knew you 318 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 2: gotta have an oven for that oven really working on 319 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 2: when I wanted to. But we would take regular wonder 320 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 2: bread and put cinnamon, sugar and butter. I call it 321 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 2: cinnamon nigga crunch. 322 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: But this right here is my favorite. This may replace 323 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: my well, I guess this couldn't go on the processed 324 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 1: sugar diet because of the sugar. 325 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 3: Right, it's better than candy. 326 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: But you could do honey. 327 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 2: Maybe maybe ave might be fires. 328 00:15:51,200 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 4: But just right here, if you like warhead, sour patch, lemonheads, 329 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 4: this is the og. 330 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 3: This is where all that came from. 331 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: Okay, you was winning with this, Okay, all right? 332 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 2: Number one. 333 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: This is the lemon, the lemon, the sugar. 334 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right. And now the one that you have 335 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 2: to prepare the most. And I actually eat this every 336 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 2: single day. And when I'm on my sugar fast, I 337 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 2: tap into this. I eat a lot of fruit and 338 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 2: this becomes my dessert. 339 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 3: I'm the biggest fan of the heim. You can put 340 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 3: this on. 341 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 2: Any fruit really, from apples, oranges, any fruit, a lot. 342 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 3: You see it on a lot of drinks and stuff 343 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 3: like that. 344 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 2: But I grew up with this Mexican candy, out of 345 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 2: all candies, is my favorite candy. Grew up going to 346 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 2: the ice cream truck with you know, penny rolls and 347 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 2: trying to get whatever I can from and I got 348 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 2: it in here. It's like a whole Mexican section, like 349 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 2: the Tamarindo, like all of that stuff. So this is 350 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 2: really where all of it started. And you can see 351 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 2: out here in California there's fruit trucks, you know, fruit 352 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 2: men or women that we are pushing fruit. Uh, and 353 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:17,640 Speaker 2: it's all fresh, amazing fruit. You can buy mango, gave, pineapple, 354 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 2: and watermelon. But this is something I grew up on 355 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:25,640 Speaker 2: and I still eat every single day. And it's literally 356 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 2: to hem, which is a little spicy on. 357 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 3: Any fruit. But since we black, we gonna do watermelon today. 358 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 2: That's no sugar. Now to this, I believe I don't 359 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 2: know which chamoy you can actually get a sugar free chamoy. 360 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 3: But as you see, it's zero calories. 361 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 2: Let's see if this one has sugar in it? No, 362 00:17:56,119 --> 00:18:00,880 Speaker 2: well zero total sugar zero, So this is zero sugar one. Now, 363 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 2: the thing about this uh chmoy is actually uh it 364 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:07,719 Speaker 2: is it's a fruit as well, and it's mixed in 365 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 2: with normally lemon juice, salt, water and then a bunch 366 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 2: of other stuff a bra pepper's spicy. It does have 367 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 2: a little sweet texture to it. Uh. 368 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 3: If you're trying to do no sugar, if you don't care. 369 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 3: They have the ones that are like. 370 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:29,400 Speaker 1: Literally, so this will be in your diet next week. 371 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:32,880 Speaker 3: I will have a sugar free chamoy next week. 372 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 2: But sometimes I won't even I'll just do the ta 373 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:38,360 Speaker 2: hem and the fruit because this is kind of hard 374 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 2: to find. 375 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 3: I'm trying to think. See now you have to be 376 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:44,400 Speaker 3: going back to my going back to the cabinet, because. 377 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 2: I think we got like, ah, yeah, see this is 378 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 2: this is the one right here? 379 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 1: Is it the sweet one? 380 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:52,400 Speaker 2: This is the sweet one. 381 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: That's the one I want. 382 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 2: Like, because tomoy has to flavor, has the really sweet one, 383 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 2: and then this is this one is kind of like 384 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 2: a little spy seeing hot. 385 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:06,160 Speaker 3: So let me take this one from you. I'll give 386 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 3: you a fresh one. 387 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, because you know I'm gonna want the sweet. 388 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:17,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the sweet one. 389 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: So just a little fun fact. I'm from New York 390 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: and it took me almost till last year to start 391 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 1: putting lemon on my mango. So I've been evolving, you know. 392 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 1: But usually if I see someone on the streets selling fruit, 393 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 1: it's watermelon and mango. But now I'm like, squeeze a 394 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: lemon on it. But I haven't graduated to ta heen 395 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:41,959 Speaker 1: and none of the other stuff yet. So here we go. 396 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 2: Let me make let me make it the taen up 397 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 2: a little bit. That'll probably be the best one for 398 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 2: this one, right there. 399 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, cheers, there we go. 400 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 2: Bomb. 401 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, shout out to that one. 402 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:01,360 Speaker 3: I want sweet. That one's super spicy. 403 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: Where did you say if it has sugar or not? 404 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,400 Speaker 2: That one has sugar? I mean you can just look 405 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 2: at this. 406 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:07,880 Speaker 1: No, But if I were to go in the store 407 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: and I try to buy this, how do I know. 408 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 3: What you well, because it's just like the consistence. 409 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: That one is awesome, darker and. 410 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 2: Thicker, literally bottle of candy. 411 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 3: But this one is kind of more, you know, spicy. 412 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 2: Mmm, So I want your special and like they put. 413 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:29,640 Speaker 3: It in they put it. 414 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 2: In ice cream out here, they put it on like everything. 415 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 2: So what is that's that's eating while I broke this 416 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 2: is this is. 417 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: Stuff everything horse meal. So, now that I've gotten to 418 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: walk in your shoes as a young buck, take me 419 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: back to what was going on around this time, like 420 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: in your in your home life, hustling you were in 421 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 1: high school. 422 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:57,679 Speaker 3: I grew up. I grew up interesting. 423 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 2: My grandpa, my parents were teenagers, so I was a 424 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 2: latch key kid moved all over the place cause my parent, 425 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,959 Speaker 2: my dad, moved away to North Carolina, where our family 426 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 2: is originally from, to go to college and be in 427 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:15,679 Speaker 2: the ministry. My mom went to nursing school after she graduated. 428 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 2: I went to like my dad's high school graduation. I 429 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:21,239 Speaker 2: was around, so we were all kids, and so my 430 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 2: grandparents stepped up and help so and you know, I 431 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 2: was one of many of my grandmother's children. She was 432 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 2: also a foster mom, so it was always a house 433 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 2: full of kids in the projects. And this that's kind 434 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 2: of where my I had to find my own identity, 435 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 2: being my mom's only. 436 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 3: Child, my dad's oldest child. 437 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 2: And one of many with my grandmother and kind of 438 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 2: like her baby. But there were other younger foster kids, 439 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 2: so I kind of had the experience of everything that 440 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:52,880 Speaker 2: gave me. 441 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 3: I know how to be a big brother, I know 442 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 3: how to be a little brother. 443 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 2: I know how to be a spoiled only child, but 444 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,719 Speaker 2: I know how to be a house full of kids. 445 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 2: So I got to experience life in such a way 446 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 2: and I think it made me a unique individual. And 447 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 2: then by the time I was a teenager, I was 448 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:09,679 Speaker 2: kind of living on my own by the time I 449 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 2: was like sixteen fifteen sixteen, and that's when I moved 450 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 2: to Hollywood to kind of hustle and do my thing 451 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 2: I've been doing. 452 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 3: I've been doing stand up since I was like eleven twelve. 453 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: Oh okay, my. 454 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 2: Dad inspired me to do that when I was living 455 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 2: with him out moved back and forth with my parents 456 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 2: all the time, and you know, during the time of 457 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,640 Speaker 2: probably like around eleven, my dad was preaching and doing 458 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 2: stuff and he would have let me do stand up 459 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 2: comedy when he was he had public access shows and 460 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 2: was preaching all over the South, and I would go 461 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 2: with him. 462 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 3: I would help him with all that. 463 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 2: Stuff, and I you know, he said I wanted to 464 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 2: be a rapper, but he was like, yo, you're funnier 465 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:48,880 Speaker 2: than just every kid in thehood wants to be a rapper. 466 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 3: You should work on your comedy, work on your hosting. 467 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 2: And you know cut today probably you know, one of 468 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 2: the most popular and biggest television hosting the game. 469 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, well you're also the youngest writer in bad in 470 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:04,400 Speaker 1: television history. 471 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 2: But was that all started from when me and my 472 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 2: dad taught me how to do all of this stuff before? Like, 473 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 2: I mean, everybody does it now, but back then, like 474 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 2: having a camera and interviewing people like that was rare 475 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 2: and I was a kid doing it. So he trained 476 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 2: me when I was like eleven twelve, that kind of 477 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,400 Speaker 2: we had to take workshop courses and things like that 478 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,719 Speaker 2: to work in public access. And that's when I learned 479 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 2: about script writing and you know, set design and lighting 480 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 2: and all of that stuff. At like eleven, you get 481 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 2: all these certificates and then that's how you work your 482 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 2: hours on cable vision in North Carolina, and that's I 483 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 2: always just wanted to be a writer from that point 484 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 2: on and wanted to be behind the scenes and produce 485 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 2: stuff for others. And I produced my first show is 486 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:51,879 Speaker 2: called check This Out in nineteen ninety two, I believe, 487 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:56,160 Speaker 2: and we had like twenty episodes or something like that 488 00:23:56,680 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 2: public Access North Carolina, and I just the bug bit 489 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 2: me from there, the comedy bug and the TV bug, 490 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 2: and you know, came back, went to high school out 491 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,439 Speaker 2: out here in California and literally would drive two and 492 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:15,439 Speaker 2: a half hours, catch a ride after school to the 493 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 2: comedy store to the improv wow. 494 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:18,640 Speaker 1: At that young age. 495 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,920 Speaker 2: Yes it's fifteen, sixteen years old, stand out there and then. 496 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: You know, was it tough getting into the clubs. 497 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 3: Of that age, Absolutely, but I was. 498 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,120 Speaker 2: It was tough because I wasn't supposed to be there, 499 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:29,679 Speaker 2: But it was easy for me because I was the 500 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 2: only kid out there. So I was like I was 501 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 2: a novelty. I was thinking like, oh, what is this 502 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 2: kid doing? When I would come on stage, I could 503 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 2: easily rock because I was like it was it was, it. 504 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:41,360 Speaker 3: Was a gimmick. 505 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 2: It was like, oh, he's a young pheenom and he's 506 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 2: in the club full of a bunch of drunk adults, 507 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 2: you know, talking about gas money and detention, you know, 508 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 2: so it's like, uh, it worked. I stood out from 509 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 2: all the other comedians, so all the agents and managers 510 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 2: would take notice of me because it was this cute 511 00:24:58,400 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 2: little kid on stage. 512 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 3: Jokes. 513 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,919 Speaker 1: Now, what were your grandparents saying at the time and 514 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:05,879 Speaker 1: your family saying at the time when you're like getting 515 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 1: in the car driving Hollywood shooting your shot. 516 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 3: None of them liked it, you know what I mean. 517 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 2: But one thing that actually saved me because at that time, 518 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:20,879 Speaker 2: especially like fifteen sixteen years old, I had started. I 519 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 2: had there was a huge, you know, influx of gang 520 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,439 Speaker 2: violence in my community, and I was influenced by that 521 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 2: pretty big and that's just where we were. It was 522 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 2: where we grew up, you know, Southeast San Diego. And 523 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,679 Speaker 2: then by the time I in high school, went to 524 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 2: high school in this area called Spring Valley and just 525 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 2: a lot of neighborhoods wasn't getting along. So a lot 526 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 2: of my friends was getting murdered, getting shot. 527 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 3: You know, we were selling drugs, you know, nothing crazy big. 528 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 2: You know, we were selling weed and stuff like that. 529 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:51,400 Speaker 3: You know, a couple of us were selling crack. 530 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 2: I never saw crack but my but you know, my stepdad, 531 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 2: my mom's husband, was one of the biggest dope dealers 532 00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:58,679 Speaker 2: in San Diego. 533 00:25:58,800 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 3: So I was always around. 534 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. 535 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 3: So like my. 536 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,159 Speaker 2: Pops was a preacher and my step pops was a 537 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 2: crack dealer. 538 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:06,919 Speaker 3: Like that's I was like, I'm all right. 539 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 2: Instead of rich dad, poor dad, I'm alright, preacher dad, 540 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 2: crack dealing dad. But I was always around it. And 541 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 2: Hollywood saved me because literally I remember going to my 542 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 2: grandfather and there was like, yeah, I'm afraid I'm gonna 543 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,479 Speaker 2: get shot. Friend, I'm gonna die, And he was like 544 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 2: We started going to church up here and at Crenshaw 545 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 2: Christian Center in la and he gave me this the 546 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,199 Speaker 2: first book I ever read on my own, called Name It, 547 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 2: Claim It by doctor Frederick K. C. Price, and it 548 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 2: was about speaking things into exact, speaking things into existence, 549 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 2: and positive affirmations way back in the nineties. So you know, 550 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 2: still to this day, I think I have it tatted 551 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:53,399 Speaker 2: on me. It's one of my favorite Bible verses. I 552 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 2: can't pull this all the way up, but it's like 553 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 2: tatted right there. It's Mark eleven twenty three to twenty 554 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:03,120 Speaker 2: four or whatever you desire to believe that you receive it. 555 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 3: And you shall have it when you pray. 556 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 2: And I just lived that, and that to me opened 557 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,400 Speaker 2: the doors for me and got me out of all 558 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 2: the wanting to be, you know, a gang banger and 559 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,880 Speaker 2: kind of straighten my life up because and that's where 560 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 2: my parents was like, all right, if you finish high school, 561 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 2: you can go do that because we understand it's safer 562 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 2: for you. 563 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 3: Because at the time, and we couldn't go. I couldn't 564 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 3: go anywhere without either they was was. 565 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 2: Getting jumped shot at something like that in our in 566 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,879 Speaker 2: our city. Uh So I would leave after school and 567 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 2: go to l A and I felt like a kid. 568 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 3: You know, I felt like I didn't have to worry. 569 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 2: About anything because everybody was older than me and I 570 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,199 Speaker 2: had to look over my shoulders and none of that 571 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 2: type of stuff. So it gave me the opportunity to 572 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:49,919 Speaker 2: be creative and young and free. And I literally would be, 573 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 2: you know, on stage with Jamie Fox and you know, 574 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 2: doing everything I could ever imagine, Chris Tucker, Eddie Griffin, 575 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:01,920 Speaker 2: you know, Martin Lawrence, all these people, My people are idolized, 576 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 2: and then I have to drive back and go to 577 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 2: school the next day. I was like, about you roll 578 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 2: his weed up bag these nipper bags up. 579 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:16,120 Speaker 1: But uh so, then your first big break, it's I'm 580 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,679 Speaker 1: assuming coming right off the stage, maybe an agent and 581 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: a manager. Notice you is that when you get your 582 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 1: first big official break. 583 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:27,159 Speaker 2: It's funny it always happens on my birthday. So I 584 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,199 Speaker 2: said God's gift to me. My sixteenth birthday, I was 585 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 2: on stage at the Improv and my manager is still 586 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,920 Speaker 2: to my manager to this day. He was there looking 587 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 2: at some of his clients and I had always looked 588 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 2: up to Keenan and Keal and Keenan Thompson was there 589 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 2: and he had brought his manager and it was kind 590 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 2: of cool where he was like I was just telling 591 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 2: him how big a fan. I wasn't like, yo, they 592 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 2: my manager is checking you out. Man. I was like work, 593 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 2: you know. 594 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 3: Literally it was my birth and my birthday was that week. 595 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 2: And then on my birthday, somehow Michael Goldman got my 596 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 2: uh got my information and called me and asked me, 597 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 2: you know, if you. 598 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 3: Can manage me. 599 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 2: And then the next year on my birthday, I seventeen, 600 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 2: is when I got my deal with Will Smith and 601 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 2: his company from my own TV show and record deal. 602 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 2: So it's cool wow. 603 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 1: And then what were you going home? Was the hot 604 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 1: that's because you chose all the hot stuff. You see, 605 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 1: I'm not sniffling nothing. 606 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 3: Guys probably eating it. 607 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 1: So you go home like who was the first person 608 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 1: you're calling and telling and what is your family saying? 609 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 1: I'm assuming it's your family, but what is everybody probably. 610 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 2: Believe me, but it was because even at the time, 611 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 2: like the first job once they started managing me was 612 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 2: behind the scenes. I started being the warm up for 613 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 2: Keenan and Kill and all that. They manded the show 614 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 2: a bunch of shows U and even got a chance 615 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 2: to do like the warm up for like some the 616 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 2: Osen Twins show. 617 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 1: And dang, I remember the Twins like the. 618 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,479 Speaker 3: Tg IF Night and Sister Sister. 619 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 2: Like because I was a kid, so the audience would 620 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 2: have a lot of young people in it, especially like 621 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,959 Speaker 2: the Nickelodeon shows. So I would entertain the audience for 622 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 2: like four hours while they're filming the show and doing 623 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 2: stuff and telling them what's going on. 624 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 3: So that was my first. 625 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 2: So my name would come up, you know, super fast 626 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 2: at the end of the show, audience warm up, Nick 627 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 2: Cannon and like, my whole family would gather around the 628 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 2: TV just to see that, and I gotta be. 629 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 3: Calling why his name won't come up? 630 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 2: You won't see his name? So like, that's probably the 631 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 2: most excited my family's ever been for me. Since then, 632 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 2: they're like, I don't care, we're tired of seeing uo TV. 633 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 2: But back then, I remember we would gather around and 634 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 2: like white weight to see my name come up at 635 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 2: the end of the. 636 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 3: Show on Nickelodeon. 637 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 1: Now, at that time, what was the money looking like? 638 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 1: Did you feel like you had arrived? You had made 639 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 1: It wasn't enough money to buy every sneaker. 640 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 2: Nah, So at the time, I remember I made a 641 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 2: I wanna say a bet ordeal with my mom because 642 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 2: my mom wasn't feeling it. 643 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 3: My mom was like, you got to go to school. 644 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 2: My mom would even tell me you're not even that funny, like, 645 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 2: because she wanted me to stick to music, and she was, 646 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 2: you know, she had seen me grinding. Her father was 647 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 2: a musician and had left me all of his music 648 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 2: equipment before he died, so it was a real connection. 649 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 2: My mom just wanted me to be a musician, and 650 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 2: I was like, only a comedian. And then she was like, 651 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 2: you're gonna get a job. She made me get a 652 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 2: job at like Wiener Schnitzel, and I was I fucked 653 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 2: that up. I was like cracking jokes. Yeah, it was 654 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 2: horrible going that freezer cleaning the bathrooms. 655 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:43,239 Speaker 3: I was like, all right, I quit. But so my 656 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 3: mom was always like you gotta do something. You can 657 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 3: do that on the. 658 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 2: Side, and she was going through some hardships. She had 659 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 2: like three jobs at one time, and uh, you could 660 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 2: just see the pressure on her. She was just like 661 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 2: trying to do it. Like. She eventually came like, you know, 662 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 2: an accountant for like the major companies. 663 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 3: But it was hard, you know, and. 664 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 2: We lost our house and had to get downsize and. 665 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 3: Get an apartment. 666 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 2: And it was just me and her, and I told her, 667 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 2: I was like, just trust me, have faith, rock with me. 668 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 2: And I said, if you go to church with me 669 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 2: every Sunday, I'll come back and go to church because 670 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 2: she had to because she was mad at the church 671 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 2: from whether it's like her upbringing and you know my 672 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 2: dad and all, he. 673 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 3: Was so churchy. She was like, forget all of that stuff. 674 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 2: And I was like, yo, you just go to church 675 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 2: with me and we're gonna have the faith. And I 676 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 2: guarantee you that in a in a year, I'm gonna 677 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 2: buy you a house. 678 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 1: And then she was and how old were you at 679 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 1: the sign? 680 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 2: That's what as I was sixteen and so I remember 681 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 2: for the warm up checks I started making, I was 682 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 2: making five hundred dollars a week, so that was enough 683 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 2: to get my gas from San Diego to to LA 684 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 2: and pay my mom's rent. 685 00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 3: So for that first year. 686 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 2: I was and my mom's RNT and just and then 687 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 2: and then having like pocket a couple hundred dollars of 688 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,719 Speaker 2: the pocket at sixteen in the nineties, I was, I 689 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 2: was good and then I got like I said, by 690 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 2: the time. 691 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 1: Did your mom so your mom didn't take the deal 692 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 1: and go to church with you on something. 693 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, she went and still was like she would go 694 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 2: to church with me every every Sunday, U and I 695 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 2: would drop it be me, my mom and my dad's mom. 696 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 2: We would all go to Mount every Baptist church in 697 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 2: southeast San Diego. And it was some of the best 698 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 2: times of my life because that was the come up 699 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 2: and like literally I was just watching God move and 700 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 2: how God worked and it was just like just blessing 701 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 2: after blessing, Like I said. By the time my uh 702 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 2: what seventeenth birthday rolled around, I had to deal with 703 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 2: Will Smith and the first my first big check, I 704 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 2: ain't got the first thing I bought and Will told 705 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 2: me don't do it. But I bought a range Rover 706 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 2: because he had one, and like it's like Keenan had 707 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,960 Speaker 2: a four Runner, Kill had an Expedition, like everybody had 708 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 2: these SUVs, and I had my mom's old broke down BMW. 709 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 2: I like, when I get my check, I'm gonna be 710 00:33:58,520 --> 00:33:59,959 Speaker 2: Ryan high, just like y'all. 711 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 3: Uh. And I bought a range over total. Dad messed 712 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 3: that up. 713 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 2: But the next chunk of money that I got, I. 714 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:08,479 Speaker 3: Bought my mama house. 715 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,319 Speaker 2: Wow. And I was like I told you. I was 716 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,359 Speaker 2: like I told you, and the rest is history. Been 717 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:18,240 Speaker 2: buying her houses since then. And she said good and 718 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 2: behind gates and some million dollars state somewhere. 719 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 1: So from there you end up, how did you get 720 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:25,720 Speaker 1: the youngest writer? 721 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 2: Like when I was so so in that so why 722 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 2: I was the warm up. I would watched, you know, 723 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,839 Speaker 2: Keenan on doing anything. Keenan literally became my big brother. 724 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:33,239 Speaker 2: You know. 725 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,319 Speaker 1: They said you used to like sleep on his couch. 726 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 2: I used to sleep on everybody couch, with Kells couch, 727 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 2: Jamie Fox's couch. 728 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 3: I used to sleep in my car. 729 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 5: Uh. 730 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 2: But Keenan was the one that let me move in, 731 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:48,879 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Everybody else was just like, yeah, 732 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:50,319 Speaker 2: you could have a couch, you know what I mean. 733 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:55,239 Speaker 2: Like it was it was, it was. 734 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 3: It was a tough tos. 735 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 2: I was a teenager. Yeah, Like it wasn't like, you know, 736 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,840 Speaker 2: no pur suit of happiness. Yeah, it was just it 737 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 2: was the hustle. 738 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 1: I loved it. 739 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:04,319 Speaker 2: You know. 740 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:05,319 Speaker 3: We'd be in. 741 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 2: The comedy clubs till three, four in the morning and 742 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 2: we go to Jerry's Deli till five and so I 743 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 2: might go close my eyes for a hour or something. 744 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,399 Speaker 2: I'll be playing basketball at the Wiveza by seven eight. 745 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 2: So it wasn't like I really I just my closes 746 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 2: in my trump, you know what I mean. 747 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 1: So you graduated high school earlier? 748 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I graduated high school on sixteen because I 749 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 2: was water of the deal that my mom made with me. 750 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 2: She was like, you finished high school. I was like, 751 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 2: I'm gonna finish early. And I had work experience a job. 752 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,360 Speaker 2: I had figured out how to get the stuff that 753 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 2: I was doing in LA as work experience. So I 754 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 2: was getting work experience credits and finished all of my 755 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,400 Speaker 2: courses and I graduated high. 756 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 3: School a year early. 757 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 2: So just because I was like, all right, cool, then 758 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,759 Speaker 2: now I can be up there full time and all 759 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:50,360 Speaker 2: of these hours during the day where I'm sitting in 760 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 2: the class, I just moved to LA. 761 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:53,720 Speaker 3: So I moved to LA when I was sixteen. 762 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:58,759 Speaker 1: Okay, So you're Will Smith's situation. There's a pivot in there. Obviously, 763 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,320 Speaker 1: what happens like to the next level. 764 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:03,839 Speaker 2: I mean I rolle that for a while. I think 765 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:07,959 Speaker 2: what happened with that I became known in Hollywood and 766 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 2: as like the next Will Smith or Will's protege. So 767 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,759 Speaker 2: everybody started to taking notice, especially the people at Nickelodeon, 768 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,759 Speaker 2: which I had already been working with, so they were like, Yo, 769 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 2: how do we let this kid get away from us? 770 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:18,320 Speaker 3: So then that's. 771 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:22,399 Speaker 2: When they gave me the deal for The Nick Cannon Show. 772 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,840 Speaker 2: And youngest executive producer at the time, I think they 773 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 2: probably somebody. I think there's definitely a Zendaya or even 774 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:33,479 Speaker 2: like Marseille Martin or something like that took it because 775 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:34,960 Speaker 2: I think they were younger. But at the time I 776 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 2: was the youngest. 777 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:37,479 Speaker 1: I don't think so, because I googled it right before 778 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:41,239 Speaker 1: you came and you still the reigning champion. I tried, 779 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:42,400 Speaker 1: I was like he still. 780 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, eighteen or nineteen is when I was the younger 781 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,880 Speaker 2: because I was really my showrunner. And the crazy thing 782 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:51,439 Speaker 2: if you ever watched a Nick Cannon show, it's funny 783 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,239 Speaker 2: because now I do the super dad content with my 784 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 2: kids and I make them watch episodes of The Nick 785 00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 2: Cannon Show with me as a teenager and everything that 786 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:03,760 Speaker 2: some people go viral for making millions of dollars on YouTube. 787 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:05,759 Speaker 2: I was doing it in the nineties, so I was 788 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,440 Speaker 2: doing the man on the Streets I was pulling up 789 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,759 Speaker 2: to the zoo or to the mall, dressed up in 790 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:15,399 Speaker 2: crazy stuff, pulling pranks on people. And they just gave 791 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:16,960 Speaker 2: me a budget and said, go do what you want 792 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,279 Speaker 2: to do, and I'll be in character. I'll be like 793 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:22,759 Speaker 2: doing all type of I mean, if you've seen any 794 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 2: of this stuff. I would dress up like Latanya, like 795 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,440 Speaker 2: some ghetto girl. I would dress up as Francis Spunkle, 796 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,960 Speaker 2: some old school b boy. I had all of these 797 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:32,840 Speaker 2: characters and I would just go out on the street 798 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 2: as its characters, and then I would go to kids 799 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 2: school and be principal for a day Bring Slime. 800 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,799 Speaker 3: To the House. And it was a hit. 801 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,600 Speaker 2: We did two seasons of it, and I probably could 802 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,840 Speaker 2: have did it for a lot longer, but I just 803 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 2: started getting more and more popular on Nickelodeon, and I 804 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,960 Speaker 2: created a bunch of like interstitial programming where we had 805 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,719 Speaker 2: like thing called the Snick House where it's like a 806 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 2: party talk show type of vibe that hosted Snick Saturday 807 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,720 Speaker 2: nights on NICK and everybody from like in Sync to Christina. 808 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,880 Speaker 3: Aguilera and like. It was just like a dope concept. 809 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:09,520 Speaker 2: And then from that I created Nick Records with Jive Records, 810 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,360 Speaker 2: which is Nickelodeon's record label, and you know. 811 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,040 Speaker 3: So then I was like, oh, I'm on to my 812 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,640 Speaker 3: music vibe. And then the movies came, and. 813 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,640 Speaker 1: Then the movies and then the first movie was Men. 814 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,920 Speaker 2: And Black two. Will put Me in min and Black two. Okay, 815 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:24,480 Speaker 2: but it was a cameo. But that was my first 816 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,560 Speaker 2: movie that I ever did. And then the first movie 817 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,240 Speaker 2: that I ever started, obviously was drum Line. 818 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,879 Speaker 1: Which was like my favorite. I think everyone. I don't 819 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 1: know if everyone can agree, but you can watch drum 820 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 1: Line one hundred times easy movies, right, is that crazy? 821 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,000 Speaker 1: Like you watch that movie every time you come on, 822 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:41,120 Speaker 1: you will sit down and watch it. 823 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,879 Speaker 3: I've only seen it once all the way through. 824 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,800 Speaker 1: I've seen it at least one hundred times. Anytime it 825 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:48,279 Speaker 1: comes home to me, I'm gonna watch TV. 826 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:50,799 Speaker 2: But I can't sit there and watch myself for like 827 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:54,480 Speaker 2: two hours. 828 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:54,719 Speaker 3: Like I'll catch the scene or something like that. 829 00:38:54,760 --> 00:39:01,480 Speaker 1: But Drumline was amazing. Your acting and Drumline was amazing 830 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 1: and had Yeah. So when Drumline hits, yeah, like what 831 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,120 Speaker 1: is yeah? Go ahead, I see you snacking. I can 832 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:14,279 Speaker 1: tell you still eat this. So Drumline hits, it's a hit. 833 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,080 Speaker 1: Everyone's talking, how you feeling, what's your pockets looking like? 834 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:21,240 Speaker 1: And at this point is your career completely stable? 835 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 2: Yeah? And no, I don't think your correct money career 836 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,239 Speaker 2: right now ain't completely stable. I think that's why I 837 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,280 Speaker 2: hustle so much, because I feel like at some point. 838 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,200 Speaker 3: They can pull the rug from up under me at 839 00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:31,760 Speaker 3: any time. 840 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:36,799 Speaker 1: I love you feel like you did. But I tell 841 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:40,239 Speaker 1: people this all the time because I do know you personally, 842 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:45,240 Speaker 1: Yes that I don't know anyone on earth that works 843 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:51,680 Speaker 1: harder than Nick. Nick. I've seen you sick, hungry, tired, 844 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,480 Speaker 1: you know, usually in a circumstance where someone could be 845 00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 1: an absolute asshole and you'd give them a pass and 846 00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:02,320 Speaker 1: you will be completely pulled. No, no attitude, no attitude, 847 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,719 Speaker 1: no nothing, and just back to back three cities in 848 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:09,040 Speaker 1: a day, probably even more since I've last seen. But 849 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,279 Speaker 1: I've seen you push the limits like no other. 850 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:13,799 Speaker 3: I think it's just in me, like when you think. 851 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:17,680 Speaker 2: I think it's such a blessing and privilege to live 852 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:19,960 Speaker 2: the life that I live and to wake up in. 853 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,520 Speaker 2: My job is to be creative, so I got to 854 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,080 Speaker 2: get as much of it as I possibly can, And 855 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,839 Speaker 2: then it's the hustle in me, you know what I mean. 856 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:31,719 Speaker 2: From my pops, my step pops, and everybody's just like, yo, 857 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,799 Speaker 2: you gotta make something out of nothing. And I do 858 00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 2: like it's successful as I've been. 859 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:38,080 Speaker 3: I mean, if you think. 860 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:41,080 Speaker 2: From the beginning of my career today, i made hundreds 861 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:44,120 Speaker 2: of millions of dollars, but I'm always thinking like this 862 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:45,200 Speaker 2: could be the last check. 863 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:46,839 Speaker 1: So that's how you move for sure. 864 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. So I'm like, I'm just always trying to get it. 865 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,680 Speaker 2: I hope to one day get to that space where. 866 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,200 Speaker 3: I'm like, all I had enough. 867 00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:57,560 Speaker 2: I'ma just but I'm not there yet, Like I'm trying 868 00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:59,720 Speaker 2: to figure out what the next play is. I'm jealous 869 00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:03,320 Speaker 2: all the YouTubers. I'm jealous of all the streamers. I'm like, yo, 870 00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,759 Speaker 2: how they getting I've been doing that? Like I'm the 871 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:11,239 Speaker 2: little Richard of this. I'm the architect. But but I 872 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,759 Speaker 2: love it though. It energizes me and the fact that 873 00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:15,600 Speaker 2: even now I get to see my kids want to 874 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:16,640 Speaker 2: be a part of it and stuff. 875 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,080 Speaker 3: So I'm having so much fun in that space. 876 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:27,920 Speaker 1: In the stretch from and I tried to get I 877 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,359 Speaker 1: didn't know if Valerie knew your assistant knew the answer 878 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,080 Speaker 1: to this because I was like, Nick has had such 879 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:35,040 Speaker 1: a long career. I was like, low key curious if 880 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,560 Speaker 1: at any point during this long span of career, if 881 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,520 Speaker 1: you actually went broke at any point? 882 00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:40,879 Speaker 2: Face, well, I went broke. 883 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:42,919 Speaker 3: I went broke a couple of times. 884 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,040 Speaker 1: Tell you tell me them, That's what I'm curious. 885 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:49,000 Speaker 2: I went. So after my first deal with Will smith 886 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,279 Speaker 2: Field somewhere was like one hundred and fifty to two 887 00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:52,920 Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars, and I told you, I bought a 888 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:57,200 Speaker 2: range Rover a bunch of other stuff, attempting to get 889 00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:00,279 Speaker 2: my mom a house, and thinking that they were going 890 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,520 Speaker 2: to pick up the show had a six episode commitment 891 00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,440 Speaker 2: produced by Will smith I mean, Quincy Jones is at 892 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:12,360 Speaker 2: my pilot shoot, same creators of Like the Damon Wayne showed, 893 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,680 Speaker 2: same creators and created Jamie Fox. I was supposed to 894 00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:16,920 Speaker 2: come on right after the Jamie Fox Show on the WB. 895 00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,960 Speaker 2: So I'm spending money that I don't even have because 896 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:21,960 Speaker 2: I'm thinking I got six episode commitment. I'm gonna be 897 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,160 Speaker 2: getting one hundred and fifty episode. 898 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, and they didn't pick up the show. 899 00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,719 Speaker 1: So after they told you they had the commitment, yeah, yeah, 900 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:31,560 Speaker 1: the whole network. 901 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:34,759 Speaker 2: And so me and Keenan we have got a house 902 00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:38,360 Speaker 2: in the Hollywood Hills. Now, like he was good, you know, 903 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,160 Speaker 2: he got his money, and I'm like, I'm trying to 904 00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,879 Speaker 2: hold my end to the rent. And I ended up, 905 00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,279 Speaker 2: you know, having to move out of that place. I 906 00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,840 Speaker 2: couldn't pay pay the rent, lost my Range Rover, literally 907 00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:51,920 Speaker 2: started driving my mom's car again. 908 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:55,920 Speaker 1: But she was able to keep her housing. 909 00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:58,479 Speaker 2: I hadn't bought her I was paying her rent. 910 00:42:58,920 --> 00:42:59,879 Speaker 3: I didn't bought her house. 911 00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,880 Speaker 2: I was hoping that you know, yeah, one hundred you know, 912 00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,400 Speaker 2: even I've bought the race bro what you know, almost 913 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:08,080 Speaker 2: fifty sixty thousand dollars left, I can't buy a house. 914 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,759 Speaker 2: But I was like, I figured down pay but again, 915 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:13,839 Speaker 2: I'm spending money before I get it. I'm thinking I'm 916 00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:17,280 Speaker 2: about to be making millions of dollars. And Will Smith 917 00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:20,120 Speaker 2: everybody warned me to not do all that stuff and 918 00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:23,640 Speaker 2: invest wise and listen. So I was literally back sleeping 919 00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:27,439 Speaker 2: on people's couches again, driving back and forth this San 920 00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:29,560 Speaker 2: Diego went from a range Rover to a cougar. 921 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,319 Speaker 1: Literally, So that's your first time? Was there another time 922 00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:33,680 Speaker 1: after that? 923 00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:35,960 Speaker 2: H Yeah, because even though I had. There was some 924 00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,120 Speaker 2: lawsuits in there too that people, because they thought I 925 00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,200 Speaker 2: was blowing up, wanted to assume me and all that stuff. 926 00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,560 Speaker 3: So lawsuits will always make you go broke. 927 00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,640 Speaker 1: And then I think I've actually personally witnessed to go 928 00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:48,040 Speaker 1: through a yeah loss. 929 00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,480 Speaker 2: It's crazy because you got to they're suing you for 930 00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:52,920 Speaker 2: a certain amount of money, and then to help you 931 00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,760 Speaker 2: not lose that case, you got to pay lawyers, probably 932 00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,440 Speaker 2: the same amount of money you getting sued for Jesus so, 933 00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:00,319 Speaker 2: and then at some point you realize that, all right, 934 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,840 Speaker 2: well I'd rather just settle so I can stop paying 935 00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:05,640 Speaker 2: you and hopefully we get into a number that's not 936 00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,000 Speaker 2: as astronomical as they're asking for it, but like something 937 00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:12,520 Speaker 2: I can afford. So every time, like lawsuits, whether legitimate 938 00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,360 Speaker 2: or not, can make a person go broke just because 939 00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,520 Speaker 2: you go broke trying to defend yourself. 940 00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:18,440 Speaker 3: Even if you're in the right. 941 00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:21,879 Speaker 2: So I think the next time, because I learned great 942 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:23,120 Speaker 2: lessons that first. 943 00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,560 Speaker 1: Time, I was gonna say, you're very lucky you learned 944 00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:27,360 Speaker 1: it on that on that first go round. 945 00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:31,560 Speaker 2: It gets scary every once in a while, people mismanaging 946 00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:35,000 Speaker 2: your money. But I said, I was a hustler, so 947 00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:39,640 Speaker 2: it gets scary, but I never went broke to tighten 948 00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:43,760 Speaker 2: my belt up a couple of times. You know, divorce 949 00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,080 Speaker 2: is never fun, you know what I mean, because that's 950 00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:47,960 Speaker 2: the whole time and the same thing. You're dealing with 951 00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:51,320 Speaker 2: the legal system and you know, even living at the 952 00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:54,280 Speaker 2: high level of life that you know, I was living 953 00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:57,480 Speaker 2: with my ex wife and then not being able to 954 00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:02,800 Speaker 2: continue that lifestyle because my finances is tied up in 955 00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:03,920 Speaker 2: so many other things. 956 00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:05,560 Speaker 3: Uh, that was a little scary. 957 00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:08,400 Speaker 2: I ain't go broke, but uh that actually created a 958 00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:11,240 Speaker 2: lot of stability for me after my through my marriage. 959 00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,400 Speaker 2: Cause then that was like the first that was probably 960 00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,760 Speaker 2: no no cause I I did buy like I said, 961 00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:19,759 Speaker 2: I bought a house. I did buy myself a house 962 00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:20,840 Speaker 2: and lost that house. 963 00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:24,319 Speaker 3: Uh that in like ninety. 964 00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:27,479 Speaker 2: Nine, Okay, between ninety before. Between ninety nine up until 965 00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:30,319 Speaker 2: drum line was a very shaky time for me. 966 00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:32,640 Speaker 3: So I lost the house that I I bought. 967 00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,920 Speaker 2: But then once Drumline came and everything started coming after that, 968 00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:42,000 Speaker 2: I start getting back to the bag and it's been pretty. 969 00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:42,759 Speaker 1: So you are still pretty young when all that was 970 00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:43,040 Speaker 1: going on. 971 00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, so early twenties, I I was al like I 972 00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,080 Speaker 2: said the next time that it got scary for me, 973 00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:51,520 Speaker 2: and but I ended up purchasing my own home and 974 00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:54,200 Speaker 2: stuff like. That was after marriage, and you know, being 975 00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:56,360 Speaker 2: in my thirties at that time, it's like, alright, now 976 00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:57,239 Speaker 2: I gotta figure this out. 977 00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:59,000 Speaker 3: I got kids, I gotta move differently. 978 00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:02,360 Speaker 2: So and then since then, I mean, now my fears. 979 00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:04,319 Speaker 2: I got so many kids. I want to make sure 980 00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:07,759 Speaker 2: that they can actually be good for the rest of 981 00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:08,320 Speaker 2: their lives. 982 00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:09,880 Speaker 3: You know, most people got to worry about two or 983 00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,440 Speaker 3: three kids. I got to worry about twelve. So I 984 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:13,319 Speaker 3: want to make sure that. 985 00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,680 Speaker 2: You know, it's because you know, life is challenging, so 986 00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:18,080 Speaker 2: I want to make sure at least they don't have 987 00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:21,000 Speaker 2: to worry about anything financially for the rest of that lives. 988 00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,320 Speaker 1: I like that because whenever I see like a billionaire 989 00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:26,000 Speaker 1: and they're like, I'm going to make sure my kids suffers. 990 00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:27,080 Speaker 2: I'm going to give all. 991 00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:30,480 Speaker 1: My money to all the nonprofits. Crazy, that's hard to 992 00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:31,960 Speaker 1: give it all the way to the non profit. 993 00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to do what Quincy Jones did. He 994 00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,239 Speaker 2: has always been one of my mentors, and I don't 995 00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:39,800 Speaker 2: know the exact amount, but obviously my man was almost 996 00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:41,759 Speaker 2: a billionaire and he gave all his money to I 997 00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:42,920 Speaker 2: think he had about ten kids. 998 00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:45,160 Speaker 3: So everybody, everybody is sitting good. 999 00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:48,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's honestly, why. 1000 00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,440 Speaker 2: Sure it out? You know what I mean. But like 1001 00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:53,440 Speaker 2: you know, I'm a big advocate for philanthropy and I 1002 00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,239 Speaker 2: do a lot of charitable efforts. But you know, it's 1003 00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:59,680 Speaker 2: about lineage. Yeah, not legacy. Let people use the word 1004 00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:03,040 Speaker 2: legac see legacy is tapped into ego and narcissism. But 1005 00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:07,160 Speaker 2: lineage is something this is this is your family, you know, 1006 00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,160 Speaker 2: and you want to make sure and that's my goal 1007 00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:14,279 Speaker 2: to me, like having so many children, the goal is 1008 00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:17,160 Speaker 2: to be able to provide for them in a way 1009 00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,200 Speaker 2: whatever they want to do in life. 1010 00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:20,240 Speaker 3: Disguise the limit. 1011 00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:22,120 Speaker 5: You know, if you want to be a doctor, I 1012 00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:23,960 Speaker 5: can help you get to the best medical school. If 1013 00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:25,880 Speaker 5: you want to be an athlete, I can get you 1014 00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:27,560 Speaker 5: to the best trainers. You want to be a chef, 1015 00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,080 Speaker 5: I could get you to the best culinary school. And 1016 00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:33,240 Speaker 5: it's not about the financial things about me supporting your dreams. 1017 00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,520 Speaker 5: So I'm literally focused on my kids and the fact 1018 00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:38,440 Speaker 5: that I have the means and the you know wherewithal 1019 00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:40,840 Speaker 5: the big shore that I could put them in positions 1020 00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:43,880 Speaker 5: to then have the best education in whatever it is 1021 00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:45,920 Speaker 5: that they want to pursue. They can have the best health, 1022 00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:47,320 Speaker 5: they could have the best. 1023 00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:48,000 Speaker 3: Chance at life. 1024 00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:50,560 Speaker 2: Let's do it. And that's why I work so hard. 1025 00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:52,239 Speaker 2: I work so hard so that my kids could have 1026 00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,799 Speaker 2: the best so that their life is I like that. 1027 00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,560 Speaker 1: So I knew you pre kid. I met you when 1028 00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:59,719 Speaker 1: I was twenty one. I thank you were twenty. 1029 00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:03,640 Speaker 3: Five, so impressed with all that you were doing. 1030 00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:07,319 Speaker 2: I know you were working with the youth, and you 1031 00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:10,000 Speaker 2: had your own company. She had her own she was 1032 00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,640 Speaker 2: a journalist and had her own magazine. Yes, And I 1033 00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:14,680 Speaker 2: thought that was so cool, so much so that I 1034 00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:15,759 Speaker 2: was like I got to be a part of this. 1035 00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:19,400 Speaker 1: Yes, but you it was funny because we're like so 1036 00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,000 Speaker 1: close in age. I'm literally four years younger than you. 1037 00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:25,439 Speaker 1: So you had just gotten your deal with willing Out. 1038 00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:27,600 Speaker 1: I think you were in season one or season two 1039 00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:29,160 Speaker 1: when you and I actually ended. 1040 00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:30,279 Speaker 3: Up working downtown. 1041 00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:35,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, you were in off Yeah, and you were cool. 1042 00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:37,680 Speaker 1: You were really nice to the kids. They were nervous 1043 00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:38,120 Speaker 1: as hell. 1044 00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:41,920 Speaker 2: And Nick, you know, it's such an amazing concept. She 1045 00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:48,080 Speaker 2: created a magazine for students by students, so it's like THEO. 1046 00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:53,920 Speaker 3: It was such a brilliant idea lift things up that 1047 00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:59,760 Speaker 3: it was amazing. It's like a newspaper school newspaper. 1048 00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:02,160 Speaker 2: On steroids, like and you had all of the celebrities 1049 00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:04,560 Speaker 2: on the cover, so it was like literally for publicists, 1050 00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:07,640 Speaker 2: it was a good look to have your kid or 1051 00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:12,279 Speaker 2: your client on celebrity high and I just wanted to 1052 00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:15,160 Speaker 2: kind of amplify whatever I could do to turn it up. 1053 00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,200 Speaker 3: But it was a brilliant. 1054 00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:18,040 Speaker 2: Concept you did. 1055 00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:23,640 Speaker 1: But now take me back to your original pitch of 1056 00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:25,800 Speaker 1: wild'n Out, because that to me was like your second 1057 00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,960 Speaker 1: go round at least from Afar, right, your second real 1058 00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:30,640 Speaker 1: big go round, just doing all you. 1059 00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:34,720 Speaker 2: Nobody believed in wilding Out at the beginning because everybody 1060 00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:38,040 Speaker 2: wanted me to focus on being a movie star, which is. 1061 00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:40,440 Speaker 3: A great idea, you know what I mean. 1062 00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:43,200 Speaker 2: And at the top back then, they only wanted you 1063 00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:44,600 Speaker 2: to be one thing. And that was why I looked 1064 00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:46,480 Speaker 2: up to Will Smith so much because he did it all. 1065 00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:48,839 Speaker 2: But they were like, there's only one him, you can't 1066 00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,520 Speaker 2: you need. Let's go become a movie star and then 1067 00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:55,920 Speaker 2: you can focus on music and TV. And I've been 1068 00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:58,640 Speaker 2: doing a bunch of stuff with MTV, like the guest 1069 00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:01,399 Speaker 2: hosting on TRL and their different game shows, and they 1070 00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:01,839 Speaker 2: loved me. 1071 00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:02,959 Speaker 3: So they gave me a deal. 1072 00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,520 Speaker 2: And they were like, that's when Ashton was doing punk 1073 00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:06,880 Speaker 2: and it's like, you want to do a show like this. 1074 00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:08,200 Speaker 2: I was like, Nah, not really, I don't do a 1075 00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:11,239 Speaker 2: show with my friends, you know, and like mixing hip 1076 00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:14,680 Speaker 2: hop and comedy and improv talking shit. And they were like, 1077 00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:16,799 Speaker 2: we don't understand what you're saying we should do like 1078 00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:18,759 Speaker 2: a game show or punk. And I was like, nah, 1079 00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:20,759 Speaker 2: I'm telling you, this is it. So I took my 1080 00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,520 Speaker 2: own money and I rented out of comedy club on 1081 00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:26,960 Speaker 2: Pico called the Comedy Union and got my friends together. 1082 00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:29,600 Speaker 2: You know, that was hustling and trying to figure it out. 1083 00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:31,919 Speaker 2: People that was trying to make a name for themselves 1084 00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:37,280 Speaker 2: like Kevin Hart, you know, Cat Williams and a bunch 1085 00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:41,000 Speaker 2: of people that nobody knew. Nobody knew Cat was called 1086 00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:47,719 Speaker 2: Cat and the Hat back then. Yeah, and yeah, everybody came. 1087 00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,960 Speaker 2: Chris Spencer was like one of the dopest writers and 1088 00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:52,200 Speaker 2: producers and directors in. 1089 00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:52,839 Speaker 3: The game right now. 1090 00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,439 Speaker 2: He he helped We just got a bunch of people 1091 00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:56,840 Speaker 2: together and said, yeah, we're just gonna do it. And 1092 00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:59,279 Speaker 2: I was inspired by stuff that had come before me, 1093 00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:02,200 Speaker 2: like Death Comedy Yeah, Uptown Comedy Club. 1094 00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:03,800 Speaker 3: Whose line is it anyway? 1095 00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:06,239 Speaker 2: And I was like, yo, our generation needs something like that, 1096 00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:08,280 Speaker 2: and that's what we created. 1097 00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,720 Speaker 1: But you were the one financing it. 1098 00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:13,920 Speaker 3: So then when that once I showed yeah, once I 1099 00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:16,360 Speaker 3: showed them what I shot, they were like, we love it. 1100 00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:20,160 Speaker 2: And I was like, good because I own it. And 1101 00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:22,000 Speaker 2: they had to pay, like they weigh you know what 1102 00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:24,439 Speaker 2: I mean. And we did a great deal and still 1103 00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:24,960 Speaker 2: to this day. 1104 00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:27,080 Speaker 1: And now when you first did your deal, was it 1105 00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:28,799 Speaker 1: like a licensing partnering deal? 1106 00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:30,200 Speaker 2: It was it. I mean, I'm be honest. Back then 1107 00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:31,960 Speaker 2: I didn't even understand it. But the fact that I 1108 00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:35,520 Speaker 2: owned out, I owned a wild in our name. And 1109 00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:39,600 Speaker 2: so eventually later on, once it became even more successful, Uh, 1110 00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:42,200 Speaker 2: they came back to me and was like, yo, we 1111 00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:42,680 Speaker 2: we need. 1112 00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:43,040 Speaker 3: A piece of that. 1113 00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:46,239 Speaker 2: The shareholders see we went in, so you know, how 1114 00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:48,600 Speaker 2: can we write you a very large check so that 1115 00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:51,839 Speaker 2: we can officially be partners so it can be part 1116 00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:54,640 Speaker 2: of you know, the paramount system. So of course I 1117 00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:58,120 Speaker 2: appliged you know, every everything got a price, tet, everything 1118 00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:00,480 Speaker 2: has a price, but I'll never relinquished ownership. 1119 00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:04,520 Speaker 1: And that's great. So now around this period, you're doing 1120 00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:07,399 Speaker 1: really well. You're doing extremely well with while I'm out, 1121 00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:09,799 Speaker 1: You're well known, you're helping me out. By the way, 1122 00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:14,480 Speaker 1: I can't even tell you just a short quick story. 1123 00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:17,560 Speaker 1: I couldn't afford the rent on my office, and I 1124 00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:21,480 Speaker 1: remember telling Nile like, and now I can't even pay 1125 00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:25,040 Speaker 1: the phone bill on this office anymore. And I can't 1126 00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:26,759 Speaker 1: even afford the rent. And I was like, asked Nick, 1127 00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:29,080 Speaker 1: if you can move in? And what you don't know 1128 00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:32,600 Speaker 1: is uh, during or someone now has someone had said 1129 00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:34,960 Speaker 1: you can move in. And so whenever Nick would pull 1130 00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:36,799 Speaker 1: up to the studio, I didn't know if Nick knew 1131 00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,600 Speaker 1: I had moved in. So you come in and I 1132 00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:41,759 Speaker 1: like hide somewhere in the corner, and I think one 1133 00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:44,359 Speaker 1: day you were like, what's up, and I was just like, 1134 00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:46,680 Speaker 1: I don't know if he knows that I worked out 1135 00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:50,640 Speaker 1: It was good, But I remember you telling me like, well, 1136 00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:55,000 Speaker 1: you don't say I was like, I'm not really here. 1137 00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:02,120 Speaker 2: But I was definitely a big supporter and fan of 1138 00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:02,960 Speaker 2: your whole movement. 1139 00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:06,000 Speaker 1: But during that ride, we get through a little bit 1140 00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:09,680 Speaker 1: of turbulence. So you we have success with willing out. 1141 00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:12,560 Speaker 1: You have a g T which is paying you a 1142 00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:15,480 Speaker 1: crazy amount. I knew they were paying you an insane 1143 00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:18,360 Speaker 1: amount because you always had dressers and people coming in. 1144 00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:20,640 Speaker 2: The number one show on television. 1145 00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:23,560 Speaker 1: Yes, and then you release your comedy special. 1146 00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:23,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1147 00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:26,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I not three comedy specials, but the last one 1148 00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:28,000 Speaker 2: is doing that pissed them off? 1149 00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:32,279 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, and the last one pissed them off. The 1150 00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:35,279 Speaker 1: water gets choppy. I want to know the feelings, the 1151 00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:36,400 Speaker 1: vibes that everything. 1152 00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:39,760 Speaker 2: I was confident. I mean, that's one thing. I'm overly 1153 00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:44,040 Speaker 2: confident since you know I've been labeled a narcissist and 1154 00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:48,560 Speaker 2: how much I believe and love myself. So I told him, 1155 00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:53,000 Speaker 2: they take their job and stick it where they need 1156 00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:53,440 Speaker 2: to stick it. 1157 00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:55,360 Speaker 1: Now, I know Goldman. 1158 00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:59,360 Speaker 2: Didn't. No of my team, my managers. They thought I 1159 00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:01,880 Speaker 2: was crazy. They thought I was having a mental breakdown. 1160 00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:06,000 Speaker 2: They thought I shouldn't you know, I should. People literally 1161 00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:10,239 Speaker 2: from Howard Stern CEOs or big giant companies like Man, 1162 00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:13,799 Speaker 2: opportunities like this don't come around. You're one of the 1163 00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:16,840 Speaker 2: top hosts in television. You're going to ruin everything and 1164 00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:20,440 Speaker 2: just over just your a joke and your freedom of speech. 1165 00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:22,759 Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, And I learned from you know, 1166 00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:27,640 Speaker 2: big bros. And examples like Dave Chappelle and people I've 1167 00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:31,000 Speaker 2: watched personally go through stuff, and I'm like, this is 1168 00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:34,000 Speaker 2: my opportunity to stand firm in my beliefs. 1169 00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:36,320 Speaker 3: And I quit AGT. 1170 00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,000 Speaker 1: Now AGT at the time was it paying you more 1171 00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:40,400 Speaker 1: than willing out at the time. 1172 00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:43,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, at that time, saying as network television, I don't 1173 00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:47,120 Speaker 2: I'm still but even then I was one of the 1174 00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:49,560 Speaker 2: highest paid television. 1175 00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:52,400 Speaker 1: Hosts you were. But now I remember watching you go 1176 00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:55,960 Speaker 1: through that, thinking I never really get along with Goman 1177 00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:57,759 Speaker 1: by the way. We made up by the way, so 1178 00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:02,680 Speaker 1: you know we're friends now we're puddies. But I remember thinking, 1179 00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:05,640 Speaker 1: like Goman's gonna have like a stroke watching this deal, 1180 00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:08,520 Speaker 1: this whole situation. Have he gonna turn down crazy amount 1181 00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:11,920 Speaker 1: of money or whatever on some I'm gonna believe in 1182 00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:17,000 Speaker 1: myself and freedom of speech. And I remember thinking, oh, okay, see, 1183 00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:18,640 Speaker 1: you know, and it. 1184 00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:21,480 Speaker 2: Was so much into that because it was like me 1185 00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:25,600 Speaker 2: being a black man in Hollywood, me being young in Hollywood, like, 1186 00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:27,319 Speaker 2: so it was a lot of things. So I ended 1187 00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:30,520 Speaker 2: up like part ways with a lot of people firing 1188 00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:33,000 Speaker 2: individuals because I felt like they didn't believe in me. 1189 00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:37,200 Speaker 2: Because everybody was thinking, like you, you're lucky, you should 1190 00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:39,320 Speaker 2: you should be grateful. 1191 00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:40,000 Speaker 3: That you have this job. 1192 00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:43,400 Speaker 2: There's you know, we normally don't let guys like you 1193 00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:47,160 Speaker 2: in here, like fuck you. Like That's like I got 1194 00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:49,920 Speaker 2: offended by people. Really, they was just probably looking out 1195 00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:54,320 Speaker 2: for me, but they were like, yo, you're you're gonna 1196 00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:57,080 Speaker 2: ruin your career when I was like, well, I'll show you. 1197 00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:58,200 Speaker 3: This job doesn't make me. 1198 00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:01,040 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go make a bigger and better show. 1199 00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:04,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. Now, working with you personally, I think I saw 1200 00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:08,080 Speaker 1: a lot of that behind the scenes. But but what 1201 00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:11,239 Speaker 1: I also was able to see was your elevator. Elevator 1202 00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:14,239 Speaker 1: pitch game was remarkable. I always tell people, like, when 1203 00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:17,000 Speaker 1: you see a deal, Nick did it from the beginning, 1204 00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:19,799 Speaker 1: the middle, and the end, and he came up with 1205 00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:22,920 Speaker 1: it and he sold it himself. I've heard stories about 1206 00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:25,880 Speaker 1: you writing movies, pitching it and getting a deal and 1207 00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:31,480 Speaker 1: then going home. 1208 00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:34,600 Speaker 2: I got the script, I was working on it, have 1209 00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:38,560 Speaker 2: it to you next week. Now with chat GPT, you 1210 00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:41,240 Speaker 2: can actually really do that Back then, I was literally 1211 00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:43,960 Speaker 2: write up all night writing scripts at something I had 1212 00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:44,560 Speaker 2: already sold. 1213 00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:47,359 Speaker 1: Dude, I've been I talked to your dad. We're both 1214 00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:50,600 Speaker 1: heavily into AI and chat GPT. I've been joking. Chat 1215 00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:54,319 Speaker 1: GPT is like the word level of where AI is. Now. 1216 00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:58,640 Speaker 1: There's other platforms that were like annihilated. Yeah, they literally 1217 00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:02,680 Speaker 1: like downput your brain and you say, write the script 1218 00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:06,560 Speaker 1: from this perspective and these interviews and done done. It's crazy. 1219 00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:10,680 Speaker 1: What's your favorite program right now? It's CenTra. Now. When 1220 00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:14,279 Speaker 1: I first got Central, Yeah, your dad was the one 1221 00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:15,640 Speaker 1: that showed me a couple of monsts from it. I 1222 00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:18,160 Speaker 1: was like, can't, But now I kind of understand the concept. 1223 00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:21,680 Speaker 1: There's in video that I did a little in video 1224 00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:24,480 Speaker 1: was good, but I want to do a whole compilation 1225 00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:27,400 Speaker 1: of what based on what. Like I have a password 1226 00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:30,480 Speaker 1: sheet that I gave to like my family and friends, 1227 00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:32,400 Speaker 1: and it says like this is what this app is 1228 00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:35,160 Speaker 1: specifically good for, and so if you use all of 1229 00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:39,640 Speaker 1: them together, it's heaven. Like I don't want to be graphic, 1230 00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:41,560 Speaker 1: but like I would, I would have sex with AIM. 1231 00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:46,720 Speaker 2: So they're making that possible very soon. 1232 00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:51,240 Speaker 1: I'm saying like I'm that and that's all I talk about. So, 1233 00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:54,959 Speaker 1: but I want to take it back to this error 1234 00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:57,640 Speaker 1: because there's a couple of scary patches where I feel 1235 00:57:57,640 --> 00:57:59,960 Speaker 1: like in my spirit I was like praying for you. 1236 00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:02,400 Speaker 1: There was one part where I even sent you an email. 1237 00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:04,720 Speaker 1: I looked in my emails and I read that email 1238 00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:05,160 Speaker 1: back and I. 1239 00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:08,920 Speaker 2: Was like, did I say that? It was probably? So 1240 00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:11,320 Speaker 2: there was so much stuff that I seen that I 1241 00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:13,440 Speaker 2: might have like, especially because you responded. 1242 00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:15,480 Speaker 1: You responded and you were very nice, and I was like, 1243 00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:16,640 Speaker 1: why house. 1244 00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:19,200 Speaker 2: But there was a lot of love out there. And 1245 00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:21,280 Speaker 2: I appreciated when people when people saw that I was 1246 00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:23,280 Speaker 2: going through stuff, because sometimes I was going through stuff 1247 00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:25,680 Speaker 2: health wise and then sometimes I was going through some 1248 00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:28,320 Speaker 2: business wise. But like it's all eyes on me. So 1249 00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:32,040 Speaker 2: it's like magnified from the media, the people. They just 1250 00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:35,240 Speaker 2: be in my business. But people know like, oh shit, 1251 00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:36,400 Speaker 2: he going through something right now. 1252 00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:40,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's hard because you you embody strength. So 1253 00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:43,600 Speaker 1: during this period you say goodbye to a GT. Now 1254 00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:47,520 Speaker 1: this is the remarkable comeback that I loved. You end 1255 00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:52,320 Speaker 1: up all mass mass masked singer, which ends up being 1256 00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:56,800 Speaker 1: for one again, bigger than A bigger than AGT again, like. 1257 00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:01,640 Speaker 2: So we everything they said I could do, you got. 1258 00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:02,720 Speaker 1: It was that moment, like. 1259 00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:06,520 Speaker 2: Absolutely, I mean that was the plan. I was like 1260 00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:10,360 Speaker 2: and again because A G T Was on Fox, My 1261 00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:13,320 Speaker 2: bad A G T Was on NBC and that singer's 1262 00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:18,560 Speaker 2: on Fox, so I literally was the competition and went 1263 00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:23,040 Speaker 2: and just you know, show them where they messed up exactly. 1264 00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:26,720 Speaker 2: And it was like, you know, people like that's never 1265 00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:30,560 Speaker 2: been done before to where somebody literally tells somebody to 1266 00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:33,440 Speaker 2: go stick it where the sun don't shine. And then 1267 00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:36,920 Speaker 2: do you think they could cancel you or you know, 1268 00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:39,120 Speaker 2: get rid of you and go across the street and 1269 00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:40,280 Speaker 2: make an even bigger show. 1270 00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:51,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, well you showed them. But now the ultimate life 1271 00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:53,960 Speaker 1: check happens, which is when I think it was like 1272 00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:58,520 Speaker 1: right before the pandemic or going was a middle pandemic. 1273 00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:03,080 Speaker 2: Life check, but I felt like it was a check 1274 01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:05,480 Speaker 2: from outside looking at people was worried. 1275 01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:12,720 Speaker 1: I was worried. That's my little vulgar email of I'm 1276 01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:15,480 Speaker 1: doing sent Jamaican. So I'm going to say this. I'm 1277 01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:17,560 Speaker 1: going to say this delicately, but I feel like my 1278 01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:20,360 Speaker 1: little brother, you know, Ego, because we had a little past, 1279 01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:25,320 Speaker 1: because we're we are Jewish, say this, but you got 1280 01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:30,280 Speaker 1: gin checked by the juice kind, Well, how do you 1281 01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:30,760 Speaker 1: want to worry? 1282 01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:32,680 Speaker 2: It feel like, I mean, I don't have to be 1283 01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:35,240 Speaker 2: delicate because I feel it was such a growing experience 1284 01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:35,560 Speaker 2: for me. 1285 01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:39,000 Speaker 3: That I learned that. 1286 01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:45,400 Speaker 2: Even if you're not intentionally trying to hurt someone or 1287 01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:51,920 Speaker 2: a community, when you have a powerful voice, people can 1288 01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:56,400 Speaker 2: get scared of it if it's not having if it's 1289 01:00:56,440 --> 01:01:01,560 Speaker 2: not shedding a light, a positive light. And I always 1290 01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:04,800 Speaker 2: want to be responsible, and Minister Fairkinn was one of 1291 01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:06,400 Speaker 2: the people that actually shared this with me, is like, 1292 01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:10,720 Speaker 2: if you don't speak truth, you don't really have power. 1293 01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:13,520 Speaker 2: You don't want to speak anything that's not the truth. 1294 01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:16,280 Speaker 2: So if there's something that you have said that isn't 1295 01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:21,080 Speaker 2: the truth, and someone can challenge you and say this 1296 01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:24,320 Speaker 2: isn't true, then now I'll never have to say that again. 1297 01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:27,600 Speaker 2: But if it's the truth, stand firm on it. And 1298 01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:29,280 Speaker 2: that was the lesson that I learned. That was what 1299 01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:31,200 Speaker 2: I was attempting to project, But it was so much 1300 01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:35,400 Speaker 2: going on that it felt like ooh, he apologized, ooh 1301 01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:39,000 Speaker 2: he not going to like It became about what everyone 1302 01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:43,160 Speaker 2: else thought opposed to what the actual lesson was and 1303 01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:46,400 Speaker 2: that's even why out of that process I created a 1304 01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:50,680 Speaker 2: platform called not cancel Culture, but counsel Culture, because that's 1305 01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:53,320 Speaker 2: what we all should be seeking wise counsel. 1306 01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:55,000 Speaker 3: To where we're. 1307 01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:57,320 Speaker 2: All held accountable for the things that we do and say. 1308 01:01:57,640 --> 01:01:59,600 Speaker 2: But it has to be displayed in a way that 1309 01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:02,640 Speaker 2: where you can look to others, to other communities to 1310 01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:07,880 Speaker 2: attempt to understand one another and get to the truth. 1311 01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:10,520 Speaker 2: That's why when you look at situations like aparth TID, 1312 01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:14,040 Speaker 2: they had truth and reconciliation. That was a thing where 1313 01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:16,400 Speaker 2: once we get the truth, then now we can reconcile 1314 01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:19,280 Speaker 2: or even in a Jewish community as well as in 1315 01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:23,160 Speaker 2: our community. There is a process of atonement in repentance 1316 01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:26,240 Speaker 2: to where there's steps to it, but the first step 1317 01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:29,720 Speaker 2: is acknowledging and saying, look, we have an issue, and 1318 01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:33,440 Speaker 2: then apologizing to where you are wrong, and then taking 1319 01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:37,240 Speaker 2: that accountability after the apology, and then now offering up 1320 01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:41,000 Speaker 2: what the two of you can do together. And that's 1321 01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:44,160 Speaker 2: really how that's the process of atonement. And I got 1322 01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:45,840 Speaker 2: a chance to do that live and living. 1323 01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:46,680 Speaker 3: Color in front of the world. 1324 01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:49,440 Speaker 2: Yeah you did, and it's maybe I. 1325 01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:51,200 Speaker 3: Made more money that year than I had ever. 1326 01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:56,200 Speaker 2: Maybe for twenty twenty, I made more relationships and friendships 1327 01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:59,919 Speaker 2: with you know now you know myself and the Sea 1328 01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:03,240 Speaker 2: of the ad L So I saw talking my man Jonathan, 1329 01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:06,120 Speaker 2: like we literally are not only great friends, but we 1330 01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:09,520 Speaker 2: have a podcast together and we get to talk in 1331 01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:11,960 Speaker 2: real time about things that are going on in the world, 1332 01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:17,840 Speaker 2: you know, from our various communities, and it's a beautiful thing, 1333 01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:20,240 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Our kids hang out together 1334 01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:23,360 Speaker 2: and you know it. But it was a learning process 1335 01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:25,080 Speaker 2: for me. But at no point was I ever scared 1336 01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:27,640 Speaker 2: or felt threatened. I was more than anything. I was 1337 01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:30,320 Speaker 2: like I wanted to represent who I was and who 1338 01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:33,520 Speaker 2: my character because I felt like people were assassinating my 1339 01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:34,520 Speaker 2: character in so many ways. 1340 01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:35,640 Speaker 3: And I feel like that's what's going on in the 1341 01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:36,160 Speaker 3: world right now. 1342 01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:39,880 Speaker 2: There's so many figures that you know, in the sixties 1343 01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:43,160 Speaker 2: and civil rights and before all the way Jim Crow 1344 01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:46,960 Speaker 2: to slavery, it was a regular thing for us to 1345 01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:49,160 Speaker 2: be assassinated in public. 1346 01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:53,280 Speaker 3: Now instead of physical. 1347 01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:57,800 Speaker 2: Assassinations, it's character assassinations. And they want to show that 1348 01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:00,560 Speaker 2: they can get rid of you or assassinate you, tarnish 1349 01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:03,040 Speaker 2: your name all that you've built to show like hey 1350 01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:07,320 Speaker 2: know your place, and they tried to assassinate my character 1351 01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:08,120 Speaker 2: and they couldn't do it. 1352 01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:11,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't at the time. I didn't see anything 1353 01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:14,720 Speaker 1: that you had said that was bad. So maybe maybe 1354 01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:17,800 Speaker 1: I have the media to go back and maybe, but 1355 01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:18,480 Speaker 1: I didn't see. 1356 01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:21,520 Speaker 2: Anything from the perspective like we you didn't see anything 1357 01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:23,440 Speaker 2: because you know me and you know how it is. 1358 01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:26,080 Speaker 2: But there were definitely things out there that they could 1359 01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:28,080 Speaker 2: take an interview, cut it one way, put it in 1360 01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:30,360 Speaker 2: a perspective, and as I said, the media. 1361 01:04:30,120 --> 01:04:31,840 Speaker 1: Is so that's kind of what they ran on. 1362 01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:37,360 Speaker 2: It's manipulated entertainment design or designed to influence all and 1363 01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:38,200 Speaker 2: that's what it does. 1364 01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:39,880 Speaker 3: So if one group wants to. 1365 01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:45,000 Speaker 2: Say, you know, you're anti Semite, they can take this 1366 01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:49,840 Speaker 2: conversation and say, see, you know. Or but if somebody 1367 01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:53,720 Speaker 2: wants to say, you know that I'm racist towards this 1368 01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:57,040 Speaker 2: group or that, like, you can take any interview, any 1369 01:04:57,120 --> 01:05:00,720 Speaker 2: sound bite, especially today, and manipulated and wait for it 1370 01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:03,400 Speaker 2: to say whatever you wanted to say and have my perspective. 1371 01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:05,600 Speaker 2: So we got to be responsible for what we say. 1372 01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:07,680 Speaker 2: We got to stand firm on the truths that we know. 1373 01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:11,800 Speaker 2: But then at the same time, if someone is offended, 1374 01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:13,480 Speaker 2: if you've hurt somebody, do this for my kids all 1375 01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:15,080 Speaker 2: the time, I said, one of the greatest lessons through 1376 01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:15,720 Speaker 2: this process. 1377 01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:18,360 Speaker 3: Literally saw my kids outside. 1378 01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:21,600 Speaker 2: Throwing rocks and somebody got hit with a rock, and 1379 01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:24,400 Speaker 2: then my kids repeating with me, like, Dad, I didn't 1380 01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:26,240 Speaker 2: need to hit them with the rock. I was like, 1381 01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:29,720 Speaker 2: but you still hit someone with a rock. You have 1382 01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:33,960 Speaker 2: to apologize, even if I know you didn't need to 1383 01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:36,080 Speaker 2: do it. But the right thing to do is you 1384 01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:39,000 Speaker 2: hurt someone, and then we'll get to why you were 1385 01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:41,680 Speaker 2: throwing rocks later and if what they mean it, or 1386 01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:44,280 Speaker 2: let's figure out let's do something different than throwing rocks, 1387 01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:45,800 Speaker 2: or throw them in the direction where no one can 1388 01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:49,960 Speaker 2: get hit. But the first thing you must do is apologize. 1389 01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:52,840 Speaker 2: And through that, as a father, that's the lesson that 1390 01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:54,560 Speaker 2: I had to step back and say, you know what, 1391 01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:59,200 Speaker 2: I have no problem apologize. I'm man enough and humble 1392 01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:02,360 Speaker 2: enough to Apoli Joe to anybody that I've hurt or offended. 1393 01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:05,520 Speaker 2: And you know that that allowed me to grow so 1394 01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:09,000 Speaker 2: much because I was that guy who I ain't saying sorry, No, 1395 01:06:09,080 --> 01:06:11,520 Speaker 2: I stand for this, this and this ain't nobody gonna 1396 01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:14,600 Speaker 2: make me do nothing, But I'm my characters. I never 1397 01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:16,400 Speaker 2: want to hurt anybody. I always want to be a light. 1398 01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:18,200 Speaker 2: I always want to be on the highest frequency. I 1399 01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:20,560 Speaker 2: always want to be somebody that you know, can bring 1400 01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:24,120 Speaker 2: people closer together and build platforms and give opportunities. And 1401 01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:26,080 Speaker 2: you know, I think people see that from my characters. 1402 01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:28,600 Speaker 2: I'm never I'm never going to do everything perfect or 1403 01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:30,360 Speaker 2: the right way, but I'm always going to have the 1404 01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:34,560 Speaker 2: right intentions and integrity is super important. 1405 01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:37,480 Speaker 1: To me now. But at the time, with the whole 1406 01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:42,120 Speaker 1: situation with wild'n Out, there had been some inner inner 1407 01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:45,400 Speaker 1: battles because you had so many people on payroll. Yeah, 1408 01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:46,760 Speaker 1: they affected a lot of people. 1409 01:06:47,120 --> 01:06:49,280 Speaker 2: I went through so many ups and downs. I went like, 1410 01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:52,280 Speaker 2: fuck this, I'm walking away. I don't want none of this. 1411 01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:54,800 Speaker 2: Like I'm done, y'all can have it to wait, No, 1412 01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:57,720 Speaker 2: that's mine, give me that. I'm like, I do it 1413 01:06:57,720 --> 01:07:00,360 Speaker 2: on my own. Where like like it was, it was 1414 01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:02,959 Speaker 2: so much going on, But like I was always thinking 1415 01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:06,320 Speaker 2: about you know, how many you know, you have a 1416 01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:08,360 Speaker 2: lot of people, and you. 1417 01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:09,960 Speaker 3: Know people they were scared. 1418 01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:12,720 Speaker 2: So I was never worried, obviously, but I was like, man, 1419 01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:15,240 Speaker 2: I don't want this thing to go away. So you know, 1420 01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:17,800 Speaker 2: the hundreds of people that e off of this no 1421 01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:21,480 Speaker 2: longer get to so again, it was a humbling process. 1422 01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:23,840 Speaker 3: I'd say it was a character kaleidoscope for me. 1423 01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:27,640 Speaker 2: I was able to see everyone's true colors in real time. 1424 01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:30,160 Speaker 3: And some people rocked with me, some people didn't. 1425 01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:33,360 Speaker 2: Some relationships are stronger because of it, some are non 1426 01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:34,480 Speaker 2: existent because of it. 1427 01:07:35,120 --> 01:07:38,000 Speaker 1: Well, now we take you to now where I turn on? Well, 1428 01:07:38,040 --> 01:07:39,720 Speaker 1: I want to say turn on. I go on social media. 1429 01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:42,600 Speaker 1: You're all over social media. But one of the things 1430 01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:45,000 Speaker 1: now that I'm all the way caught up is I 1431 01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:48,880 Speaker 1: see you do counsel culture. I see you do class 1432 01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:52,640 Speaker 1: Cannon's class. But the thing that makes me kind of 1433 01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:56,080 Speaker 1: oh's And I don't know how you do it because 1434 01:07:56,120 --> 01:07:59,000 Speaker 1: I get defensive if someone like said something. I'm one 1435 01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:00,760 Speaker 1: of those people that get defense. I'm working on it. 1436 01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:03,640 Speaker 1: I'm just like me deep and still working on it. 1437 01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:06,160 Speaker 1: But sometimes people will say stuff to you, at least 1438 01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:11,520 Speaker 1: in clips. From what I've seen, culture his very very 1439 01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:13,920 Speaker 1: well like, I don't even know why he opens himself 1440 01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:14,440 Speaker 1: up to this. 1441 01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:16,320 Speaker 2: I just I think, first of all, because council culture. 1442 01:08:16,320 --> 01:08:18,960 Speaker 2: Because I'm in therapy constantly. I go to therapy a 1443 01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:20,519 Speaker 2: few times a weekend a lot of times. I have 1444 01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:23,800 Speaker 2: personal relationships with the therapists that are on that show. 1445 01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:25,880 Speaker 2: And if anyone's ever been in therapy, you're just supposed 1446 01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:28,280 Speaker 2: to be open, honest, and vulnerable to a point where 1447 01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:31,720 Speaker 2: even if you're completely wrong, like even with my you know, 1448 01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:37,960 Speaker 2: narcissistic personality, uh diagnosis, whether I believe it or not, 1449 01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:40,800 Speaker 2: if this is what a doctor said I have, I 1450 01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:44,840 Speaker 2: have no problem talking about it with the doctor and expressing. 1451 01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:47,479 Speaker 2: And you know, I've had many Like some doctors say, well, 1452 01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:50,040 Speaker 2: I don't believe that. I think you're just this, this 1453 01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:52,519 Speaker 2: and this, or oh I think you know you have it, 1454 01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:55,400 Speaker 2: But so does the majority of the people in your industry. 1455 01:08:55,400 --> 01:08:58,040 Speaker 2: They just don't never been diagnosed or don't talk about it. 1456 01:08:58,160 --> 01:09:01,879 Speaker 2: Like so the fact that I'm living my life openly 1457 01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:05,160 Speaker 2: for others to embrace because it is all about community 1458 01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:07,840 Speaker 2: and council and you know, culture just means it's where 1459 01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:14,120 Speaker 2: we cultivate, it's where we grow. So I'm sacrificing my line. 1460 01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:15,519 Speaker 1: You definitely sacrifice us. 1461 01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:17,599 Speaker 2: I sit there because I say things and I feel 1462 01:09:17,680 --> 01:09:19,599 Speaker 2: ways that there's a lot of other men that out there. 1463 01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:22,720 Speaker 2: Men don't have a space to actually be vulnerable and 1464 01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:28,200 Speaker 2: ask tough questions and literally challenge themselves. And I live. 1465 01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:29,160 Speaker 3: My life out in public anyway. 1466 01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:32,040 Speaker 2: People have so many opinions about me anyway, So if 1467 01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:35,439 Speaker 2: anything one thing to say, I'm not highing nothing, I'm 1468 01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:39,960 Speaker 2: not lying. Yeah, you see the work happening in real time. Uh. 1469 01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:42,120 Speaker 2: And the goal is to just be you know, the 1470 01:09:42,400 --> 01:09:45,439 Speaker 2: best human being or the best spirit having a human 1471 01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:48,120 Speaker 2: experience as I can, well I do. 1472 01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:52,120 Speaker 1: I will commend you on the like owning being on 1473 01:09:52,280 --> 01:09:54,599 Speaker 1: narcissists because usually if you ever break up with someone, 1474 01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:56,960 Speaker 1: the first thing they gonna say you was a narcissist. 1475 01:09:57,000 --> 01:09:59,600 Speaker 2: And you I think everybody has a level of it. 1476 01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:01,800 Speaker 2: And when you get the test, it takes hours to 1477 01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:04,760 Speaker 2: do and it's over days and all that stuff. But 1478 01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:08,960 Speaker 2: you realize there's a spectrum like within anything, and there's 1479 01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:12,040 Speaker 2: certain things that you know when you think about it, obviously, 1480 01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:12,880 Speaker 2: like you. 1481 01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:15,720 Speaker 3: Know, I'm not a Donald Trump level narcissists. 1482 01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:19,680 Speaker 2: There's a I don't want to put my name on 1483 01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:22,720 Speaker 2: every building and have rage and you know I'm not 1484 01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:26,160 Speaker 2: empathetic to you know, whole community are non empathetic to 1485 01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:29,640 Speaker 2: whole communities. But there's things that when you want to 1486 01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:31,160 Speaker 2: be the best, when you think you're the best, when 1487 01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:33,479 Speaker 2: you believe in yourself, when you believe you have the 1488 01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:35,840 Speaker 2: ability to do something that no one else says, and 1489 01:10:36,439 --> 01:10:40,200 Speaker 2: especially in business, that's great. In a personal relationship, as 1490 01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:43,040 Speaker 2: a father, that's not good. And so even as a father, 1491 01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:47,320 Speaker 2: I've said, all right, well, I'm learning what how how 1492 01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:50,559 Speaker 2: to get rid of some of those narcissistic tendencies when 1493 01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:53,719 Speaker 2: parenting because a lot of people, like I'll give you example, 1494 01:10:53,800 --> 01:10:56,760 Speaker 2: something that a lot of a narcissistic thing that a 1495 01:10:56,760 --> 01:10:58,800 Speaker 2: lot of parents do that they don't know that they do. 1496 01:10:58,840 --> 01:11:02,600 Speaker 2: That I've learned is that you think your children are 1497 01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:07,559 Speaker 2: an extension of you. That's a narcissistic trait that like 1498 01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:10,720 Speaker 2: I made you, you gotta do what and if you 1499 01:11:10,760 --> 01:11:12,600 Speaker 2: don't agree or do what I said or what I 1500 01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:15,280 Speaker 2: taught you, I'm disowning you or I'm upset with you. 1501 01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:17,639 Speaker 3: That's what a narcissist does. 1502 01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:22,639 Speaker 2: And you think that's good parenting, But no, your children 1503 01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:25,400 Speaker 2: aren't an extension. You're actually an extension of your children 1504 01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:28,160 Speaker 2: if you look at it the way, and they're their 1505 01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:32,360 Speaker 2: own individuals. So that's why I stop using terms like legacy, 1506 01:11:32,920 --> 01:11:35,840 Speaker 2: because a legacy is something that you do and build. 1507 01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:40,679 Speaker 2: Your children are your lineage and they go and do whatever, 1508 01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:44,000 Speaker 2: but you didn't. Oh, I'm making a legacy like, No, 1509 01:11:44,080 --> 01:11:47,959 Speaker 2: my legacy shouldn't be my children. Like we are blessed 1510 01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:52,479 Speaker 2: to take stewardship over for probably only eighteen years of 1511 01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:55,400 Speaker 2: an independent spirit that will go on and be whoever 1512 01:11:55,439 --> 01:11:55,720 Speaker 2: they are. 1513 01:11:55,840 --> 01:11:58,120 Speaker 3: That they're not yours in that stense. 1514 01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:02,840 Speaker 2: You are here to train them and operate, you know, 1515 01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:05,880 Speaker 2: a safe space and provide for them for God, but 1516 01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:08,600 Speaker 2: they're not yours in that sense that they have to 1517 01:12:08,640 --> 01:12:11,320 Speaker 2: do everything you say. Now obviously discipline and all that stuff. 1518 01:12:11,320 --> 01:12:12,639 Speaker 3: You keep them safe. 1519 01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:16,000 Speaker 2: But if your child wants to be this, or identifies 1520 01:12:16,040 --> 01:12:17,960 Speaker 2: as this, or grows up to have. 1521 01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:22,320 Speaker 3: This career, that's what they're supposed to do. But and 1522 01:12:22,439 --> 01:12:23,760 Speaker 3: I'm learning this in real time. 1523 01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:26,240 Speaker 2: Where as much as I want my son to be this, 1524 01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:29,240 Speaker 2: I want my daughter to do this, I just gotta 1525 01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:33,559 Speaker 2: love them regardless of you know what. I can't project 1526 01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:35,400 Speaker 2: my beliefs onto them, and the only thing I could 1527 01:12:35,439 --> 01:12:38,080 Speaker 2: do is be the best example that I can be, 1528 01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:41,120 Speaker 2: and hopefully they want to be like me, but I 1529 01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:44,519 Speaker 2: can't force them to be an extension of me. So 1530 01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:50,080 Speaker 2: that's that's stuff I learn in therapy. Because you think 1531 01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:51,960 Speaker 2: you're sposed to be like, oh, no, I'm gonna make 1532 01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:53,720 Speaker 2: sure that you do this, and I'm gonna give you this. 1533 01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:56,120 Speaker 2: You better do this because I said so, Like I. 1534 01:12:56,200 --> 01:12:57,720 Speaker 1: Just be like, I want you to be a I 1535 01:12:57,760 --> 01:13:00,920 Speaker 1: say this, but I get correct, I'll be like I 1536 01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:03,840 Speaker 1: want her to be the best version of me, or 1537 01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:07,719 Speaker 1: like stronger than me, better than me, like ten times 1538 01:13:07,880 --> 01:13:09,680 Speaker 1: better than who I was and. 1539 01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:15,040 Speaker 2: Will be because your gift. But when you start, when 1540 01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:20,240 Speaker 2: you start saying, when you start projecting your trauma onto 1541 01:13:21,280 --> 01:13:24,360 Speaker 2: your child, and that's when Now, now that feels like pressure, 1542 01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:27,160 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, opposed to be like, you 1543 01:13:27,200 --> 01:13:28,800 Speaker 2: don't have to be anything like me, you I just 1544 01:13:28,840 --> 01:13:31,080 Speaker 2: want you to be the best version of yourself. Yeah, 1545 01:13:31,240 --> 01:13:33,639 Speaker 2: And that's you know, but you know we're not preaching. 1546 01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:34,960 Speaker 2: Were eating my book? 1547 01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:38,240 Speaker 1: And then what made you end up going to get 1548 01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:40,000 Speaker 1: start getting getting counseling. 1549 01:13:40,280 --> 01:13:41,519 Speaker 3: And I mean started in the church. 1550 01:13:41,640 --> 01:13:44,799 Speaker 2: I mean we always look to the past or different 1551 01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:50,360 Speaker 2: elements of Christianity too. You know, you seek wise counsel 1552 01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:54,480 Speaker 2: uh and whether it's relationships. I probably say started with relationships. 1553 01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:56,800 Speaker 2: Then I started working in the prison systems. You know, 1554 01:13:56,960 --> 01:13:59,680 Speaker 2: where do you do group therapy? And I watched a 1555 01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:02,559 Speaker 2: lot of psychologists and professors and stuff come in and 1556 01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:04,760 Speaker 2: I watched group therapy and that's kind of how like 1557 01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:05,799 Speaker 2: AA meetings. 1558 01:14:06,160 --> 01:14:07,719 Speaker 3: And I was like, I found myself. 1559 01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:10,960 Speaker 2: I was working as a philanthropic process and I was 1560 01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:14,000 Speaker 2: getting more out of it than you know, some of 1561 01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:16,479 Speaker 2: the men and women that were incarcerated. I was like, Wow, 1562 01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:20,000 Speaker 2: this talking things out and sharing like this works. And 1563 01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:23,920 Speaker 2: so seeing all that, you know, started doing personal therapy 1564 01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:26,160 Speaker 2: every week, and like I said, I've been in couples 1565 01:14:26,240 --> 01:14:28,040 Speaker 2: therapy a time from. 1566 01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:30,040 Speaker 3: Past relationships, and I just grew to love it. 1567 01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:33,680 Speaker 2: Groued to love like being open, being honest, and just 1568 01:14:34,200 --> 01:14:40,280 Speaker 2: hopefully being a beacon and a conduit for mental wellness. 1569 01:14:40,320 --> 01:14:42,639 Speaker 3: And because it's needed right now more than ever. 1570 01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:46,400 Speaker 2: So you know, shouts out to all the other individuals 1571 01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:48,479 Speaker 2: who see it as well. You know, there's a lot 1572 01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:52,400 Speaker 2: of entertainers that artists that are moving into that space 1573 01:14:52,439 --> 01:14:56,160 Speaker 2: of mental wellness, and it's just it. Before this started, 1574 01:14:56,240 --> 01:15:00,120 Speaker 2: it really wasn't something specifically black men spoke about or 1575 01:15:00,160 --> 01:15:00,840 Speaker 2: even knew about. 1576 01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:03,600 Speaker 3: So the fact that now we can have platforms, we 1577 01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:05,280 Speaker 3: can do it openly. I mean, you see it all 1578 01:15:05,320 --> 01:15:06,360 Speaker 3: all across. 1579 01:15:06,040 --> 01:15:07,920 Speaker 1: Line, and I see it a lot now. I see 1580 01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:13,280 Speaker 1: rappers just rapping about being a man in relationships. I'm like, now, 1581 01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:15,200 Speaker 1: isn't that art as a man? 1582 01:15:16,720 --> 01:15:17,559 Speaker 3: We feel too? 1583 01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:19,080 Speaker 2: I see. 1584 01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:21,439 Speaker 1: I literally was scrolling like three in the morning the 1585 01:15:21,479 --> 01:15:23,559 Speaker 1: other day. I saw some rapper and all his songs 1586 01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:27,439 Speaker 1: was like about like, I guess feelings, and I was 1587 01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:31,040 Speaker 1: just like, you guys have a lot of feelings, a 1588 01:15:31,040 --> 01:15:32,720 Speaker 1: lot of frustrating what to do. 1589 01:15:32,720 --> 01:15:35,400 Speaker 2: With it now too, because before we didn't, we bottled 1590 01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:39,519 Speaker 2: it up and then it turned into other things that 1591 01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:42,680 Speaker 2: weren't so healthy. But now you know, it's like, you know, 1592 01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:45,559 Speaker 2: I rather I'd rather meditate than medicate, you know what 1593 01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:45,760 Speaker 2: I mean. 1594 01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:47,560 Speaker 1: I see you doing that a lot of meditation and 1595 01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:47,840 Speaker 1: all that. 1596 01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:49,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've always done it, but it's like. 1597 01:15:49,400 --> 01:15:50,559 Speaker 1: You'll be doing it on the camera. 1598 01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:53,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know that's that's really that's like a minute, 1599 01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:57,000 Speaker 2: two minutes like usually I do like twenty minutes a day. 1600 01:15:57,439 --> 01:16:00,640 Speaker 1: I thought you had add adhd I do it. 1601 01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:02,680 Speaker 2: That's why that helped me fight it, you know, what 1602 01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:02,920 Speaker 2: I mean. 1603 01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:05,920 Speaker 1: I tried it. I can't get my mind to sit still. 1604 01:16:06,040 --> 01:16:07,360 Speaker 3: You're not supposed to sit still. 1605 01:16:07,400 --> 01:16:10,840 Speaker 2: That's that's a myth that you're supposed to Oh, clear 1606 01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:13,560 Speaker 2: your mind. No, you allow everything to flow. You just 1607 01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:17,000 Speaker 2: gotta be still. It's about being still and breathing, and 1608 01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:19,400 Speaker 2: then you focus on your breath and then you start 1609 01:16:19,439 --> 01:16:23,640 Speaker 2: you literally get a youthphoric sensation like like then doorphins 1610 01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:26,760 Speaker 2: and dopamine is released and you're like, whoa, I get 1611 01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:29,800 Speaker 2: it now, And that probably happens around like minute eight 1612 01:16:29,880 --> 01:16:32,200 Speaker 2: or nine. But it's just just focusing on breathing and 1613 01:16:32,280 --> 01:16:35,679 Speaker 2: still let every thought happen. Don't try to control your thoughts. 1614 01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:36,599 Speaker 3: That's not meditating. 1615 01:16:37,240 --> 01:16:39,519 Speaker 2: You let them thought and they just But what happened 1616 01:16:39,640 --> 01:16:42,080 Speaker 2: is your thoughts will just slow down. Just focus on breathing. 1617 01:16:42,160 --> 01:16:44,280 Speaker 2: Or they tell you get a you get a mantra. 1618 01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:46,719 Speaker 2: So some people say own or you pick a word. 1619 01:16:47,160 --> 01:16:51,280 Speaker 2: You want to focus on money, it's like money. You 1620 01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:55,439 Speaker 2: say money for eight minutes straight, money gonna happen. But 1621 01:16:55,479 --> 01:16:57,920 Speaker 2: it's as simple as that, Like, it's not as not 1622 01:16:57,960 --> 01:17:01,040 Speaker 2: as it's really like, especially because I have ADHD, because 1623 01:17:01,080 --> 01:17:05,000 Speaker 2: I'm always going like I value quiet time, value stillness, 1624 01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:07,360 Speaker 2: and I tend to meditate it like four in the 1625 01:17:07,400 --> 01:17:11,160 Speaker 2: morning where everything else is quiet. Sometimes I fall asleep. 1626 01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:14,080 Speaker 2: I mean, but as long as I can get fifteen and. 1627 01:17:14,040 --> 01:17:15,679 Speaker 1: You get up out of bed and sit on you 1628 01:17:15,680 --> 01:17:16,160 Speaker 1: God to that. 1629 01:17:16,280 --> 01:17:17,920 Speaker 2: If you stay in bed, you're gonna go back to sleep. 1630 01:17:18,120 --> 01:17:18,640 Speaker 2: So you got it. 1631 01:17:18,680 --> 01:17:21,080 Speaker 3: But you find a space the sun's out, if it's like, 1632 01:17:21,280 --> 01:17:23,400 Speaker 3: get you a little area, okay, and. 1633 01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:27,439 Speaker 2: Put put your little music on and vibes and just 1634 01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:30,280 Speaker 2: sit and breathe and talk to God. 1635 01:17:31,080 --> 01:17:34,200 Speaker 1: Well, I uh, I appreciate your time. I did walk 1636 01:17:34,240 --> 01:17:37,520 Speaker 1: around your office. I was looking for like chairs and tables, 1637 01:17:38,320 --> 01:17:41,360 Speaker 1: trying to figure out how to do this station. But 1638 01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:44,000 Speaker 1: you look far from. 1639 01:17:45,960 --> 01:17:46,520 Speaker 2: Organized. 1640 01:17:46,720 --> 01:17:52,000 Speaker 1: No, your brain is the studio. There's is literally so 1641 01:17:52,160 --> 01:17:55,479 Speaker 1: much going on everywhere. I secretly hoping that you will 1642 01:17:55,520 --> 01:17:57,759 Speaker 1: allow us to do like a little tour following you around. 1643 01:17:57,800 --> 01:18:00,719 Speaker 1: If you don't, that's cool. But when I look at this, 1644 01:18:00,720 --> 01:18:04,720 Speaker 1: this is my really believe your brain operates. He's got 1645 01:18:04,720 --> 01:18:08,960 Speaker 1: the daily Cannon show, he's got class, the council, the 1646 01:18:09,160 --> 01:18:10,400 Speaker 1: kids room, I. 1647 01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:11,160 Speaker 3: Got a nursery up. 1648 01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:15,120 Speaker 2: Did you go in my office? I couldn't find next 1649 01:18:15,160 --> 01:18:15,799 Speaker 2: to the nursery. 1650 01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:17,160 Speaker 1: Where is it? 1651 01:18:17,160 --> 01:18:18,840 Speaker 2: It looked like a jump room. Right. 1652 01:18:19,080 --> 01:18:22,960 Speaker 1: Oh, it was like a bunch of junk. Right next 1653 01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:25,240 Speaker 1: to it was the one in the corner with the 1654 01:18:25,280 --> 01:18:30,400 Speaker 1: little teddy bears. It's like the little porcelain teddy bear things. 1655 01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:33,519 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that is my office. That's like, wait, yeah, 1656 01:18:33,560 --> 01:18:34,880 Speaker 2: that's I mean, it's a bunch of junk and you're 1657 01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:35,880 Speaker 2: talking about the bear bricks. 1658 01:18:37,640 --> 01:18:39,439 Speaker 1: There was one next to the kids room. It looked 1659 01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:42,120 Speaker 1: dark and like shadowy in there. I was like, I'm 1660 01:18:42,160 --> 01:18:43,160 Speaker 1: staying away from that room. 1661 01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:46,040 Speaker 3: I think that was the one. But again, it's all 1662 01:18:46,040 --> 01:18:47,280 Speaker 3: over face the conference room. 1663 01:18:47,439 --> 01:18:50,120 Speaker 1: It's very nostalgic here. I'm surprised that you're able to 1664 01:18:50,120 --> 01:18:52,480 Speaker 1: meditate just walking a minute. 1665 01:18:52,160 --> 01:18:54,640 Speaker 2: And then normally don't meditate here though I normally I 1666 01:18:54,680 --> 01:18:57,320 Speaker 2: like to meditate outside. That one keep me from falling 1667 01:18:57,320 --> 01:19:00,800 Speaker 2: asleep and like, you know, the sun coming up or 1668 01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:01,360 Speaker 2: something like that. 1669 01:19:01,439 --> 01:19:05,599 Speaker 1: I love your gym, Yeah, that's that gym is phenomenal. 1670 01:19:05,040 --> 01:19:07,200 Speaker 3: And that goes outside like working out outside too. 1671 01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:10,000 Speaker 1: So thank you so much for your time. 1672 01:19:10,400 --> 01:19:13,360 Speaker 2: I got to go pick up my kids at school. 1673 01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:15,959 Speaker 1: Your kids are back in school already. 1674 01:19:15,960 --> 01:19:17,639 Speaker 2: This was the first week I showed. 1675 01:19:17,479 --> 01:19:19,519 Speaker 1: Up today with my kid and I was like on 1676 01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:21,000 Speaker 1: the phone and I was like, well, well. 1677 01:19:20,840 --> 01:19:24,519 Speaker 2: The preschool started back. I think the older kids start back. 1678 01:19:24,720 --> 01:19:27,719 Speaker 1: I'm in pre school. I showed up and they was empty, 1679 01:19:27,800 --> 01:19:30,200 Speaker 1: gates was drawing, and I was like, and this said, 1680 01:19:30,240 --> 01:19:33,360 Speaker 1: I guess to the six and I thought today, that's 1681 01:19:33,400 --> 01:19:35,840 Speaker 1: what I thought. And no, apparently when they say to 1682 01:19:35,880 --> 01:19:37,320 Speaker 1: the six it means six. 1683 01:19:39,040 --> 01:19:39,160 Speaker 5: Day. 1684 01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:42,200 Speaker 1: I showed up and I was like, well, I hope 1685 01:19:42,280 --> 01:19:47,000 Speaker 1: Nick don't mind. He got twelve kids nursery. Thank you 1686 01:19:47,040 --> 01:19:49,000 Speaker 1: so much, Nick, I appreciate doubt. 1687 01:19:49,439 --> 01:19:50,240 Speaker 3: This was amazing. 1688 01:19:50,479 --> 01:19:52,439 Speaker 2: Thank you good, You're good to catch up. 1689 01:19:52,439 --> 01:19:54,000 Speaker 3: Great conversation, interview. 1690 01:19:54,560 --> 01:19:59,439 Speaker 1: And now whenever you have a kids party, Oh did 1691 01:19:59,479 --> 01:19:59,840 Speaker 1: you even know? 1692 01:19:59,880 --> 01:20:07,000 Speaker 2: I I did not know. It's absolutely you literally just miss. 1693 01:20:07,080 --> 01:20:11,040 Speaker 2: I've had like what five parties in the last month, and. 1694 01:20:11,160 --> 01:20:13,479 Speaker 1: Every month every time I was the Riah go I 1695 01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:15,639 Speaker 1: show her like if they're singing happy birthday, she'd be like, Mommy, 1696 01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:17,280 Speaker 1: I want to go there. Now, I'm like the riots 1697 01:20:17,280 --> 01:20:19,880 Speaker 1: three in the morning. What are you talking about? It 1698 01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:21,280 Speaker 1: already happened, definitely. 1699 01:20:21,320 --> 01:20:23,000 Speaker 2: So No, I think I got one of my kids' 1700 01:20:23,040 --> 01:20:26,479 Speaker 2: birthdays in February. He's a little older, and then the twins. 1701 01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:28,600 Speaker 2: There's is in April, but then after that all the 1702 01:20:28,640 --> 01:20:30,400 Speaker 2: young kids from summer all the way to the end 1703 01:20:30,439 --> 01:20:32,320 Speaker 2: of the year party, party, Party. 1704 01:20:32,360 --> 01:20:34,280 Speaker 1: That's awesome. And then can you just quickly before we 1705 01:20:34,360 --> 01:20:38,080 Speaker 1: close out, run down a list of everything you have 1706 01:20:38,240 --> 01:20:40,040 Speaker 1: going on, because there's a lot. 1707 01:20:40,560 --> 01:20:42,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, so much. I don't even know where to go, 1708 01:20:42,479 --> 01:20:45,360 Speaker 2: but it's like, we'll be here in another show. Yeah, 1709 01:20:45,400 --> 01:20:49,160 Speaker 2: we got The Daily every Day that's a show as 1710 01:20:49,160 --> 01:20:53,240 Speaker 2: well as a radio show nationwide syndicated, all of that 1711 01:20:53,280 --> 01:20:57,120 Speaker 2: good stuff. Catch me in multiple cities or just watch 1712 01:20:57,160 --> 01:21:00,960 Speaker 2: it on YouTube or anywhere online. We live, so that's like, 1713 01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:04,080 Speaker 2: that's a platform so many other influencers and creators that 1714 01:21:04,120 --> 01:21:07,920 Speaker 2: are a part of that. Excited my super dad stuff. 1715 01:21:08,240 --> 01:21:10,000 Speaker 2: I do a bunch of content with my kids. That's 1716 01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:11,680 Speaker 2: probably around the most excited about because I have so 1717 01:21:11,800 --> 01:21:17,800 Speaker 2: much fun doing that. And movies we're still doing those. 1718 01:21:17,840 --> 01:21:20,120 Speaker 2: We got a couple coming out this year, probably filming 1719 01:21:20,160 --> 01:21:23,720 Speaker 2: some this year as well. We got we playing spades. 1720 01:21:24,040 --> 01:21:26,120 Speaker 1: I like that. I really like that we have so 1721 01:21:26,160 --> 01:21:27,360 Speaker 1: that I don't know how to play spades. 1722 01:21:27,840 --> 01:21:32,280 Speaker 2: That's fun. We got obviously wilding out twenty year anniversary 1723 01:21:32,320 --> 01:21:34,240 Speaker 2: is twenty twenty five, so you'll see more of that, 1724 01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:39,759 Speaker 2: more episodes coming up, tours more we have to wilding 1725 01:21:39,800 --> 01:21:45,160 Speaker 2: Out Cruise starting, so that'd be fun, and then some 1726 01:21:45,200 --> 01:21:50,320 Speaker 2: more spinoffs and Offshooter wilding out from the talent there, Are. 1727 01:21:50,160 --> 01:21:52,519 Speaker 1: You going to do a comedy anything in comedy? 1728 01:21:52,880 --> 01:21:54,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, like a special or. 1729 01:21:54,200 --> 01:21:55,679 Speaker 3: Well, you know, I've done a bunch of specials already. 1730 01:21:55,800 --> 01:21:55,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1731 01:21:55,960 --> 01:21:56,920 Speaker 3: Now I'm going to be producing. 1732 01:21:56,960 --> 01:21:59,600 Speaker 2: So we're building a whole new stand up platform that 1733 01:22:00,160 --> 01:22:05,599 Speaker 2: would be coming up. Man, so much stuff, Cannons, Class, 1734 01:22:05,680 --> 01:22:07,800 Speaker 2: Council Culture, Kicks and Chicks. 1735 01:22:08,040 --> 01:22:10,000 Speaker 3: I think all of the those are all podcasts. 1736 01:22:10,560 --> 01:22:12,840 Speaker 2: Council Culture is also a television show, a panel, a 1737 01:22:12,880 --> 01:22:16,639 Speaker 2: men's panel show, and uh, we're doing Council Culture con so, 1738 01:22:16,720 --> 01:22:18,720 Speaker 2: and we're gonna be doing like mental wellness retreats and 1739 01:22:18,720 --> 01:22:20,120 Speaker 2: stuff from men. Wow. 1740 01:22:20,200 --> 01:22:21,880 Speaker 1: Is that going to be a nonprofit or is it? 1741 01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:24,599 Speaker 2: Like it's both, you know what I mean. But it's 1742 01:22:24,640 --> 01:22:27,559 Speaker 2: like I'm just I'm learning and watching guys I look 1743 01:22:27,640 --> 01:22:32,080 Speaker 2: up to, like Gary Vee, you know, different individuals that 1744 01:22:32,479 --> 01:22:36,479 Speaker 2: you know, all like Ted Talk Community and just really 1745 01:22:36,520 --> 01:22:42,280 Speaker 2: just focusing on mental wellness with that platform. Uh, incredible, 1746 01:22:42,400 --> 01:22:47,040 Speaker 2: the label, the consumer products aspects of the world. 1747 01:22:47,080 --> 01:22:49,120 Speaker 3: We have a bunch of incredible products. 1748 01:22:50,439 --> 01:22:55,439 Speaker 2: Man too much, too much, so nast singer like like 1749 01:22:55,479 --> 01:22:58,240 Speaker 2: all of the stuff that you guys see me on you. 1750 01:22:58,800 --> 01:23:03,280 Speaker 1: Thank you everyone. You can google Nick follow him anywhere. 1751 01:23:03,400 --> 01:23:07,040 Speaker 1: It's Nick Cannon. He doesn't really need a whole explanation. 1752 01:23:10,240 --> 01:23:13,120 Speaker 1: Thank you guys for tuning in. Peace out, We out 1753 01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:20,719 Speaker 1: for more eating while broke from iHeartRadio and The Black Effect. 1754 01:23:20,920 --> 01:23:24,519 Speaker 1: Visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen 1755 01:23:24,520 --> 01:23:25,679 Speaker 1: to your favorite shows.