WEBVTT - Ep. 140: BEAR GREASE [RENDER] - Dad Class, Squirrel Championship and River Finale 0:00:14.720 --> 0:00:17.239 My name is Clay Neukleman. This is a production of 0:00:17.280 --> 0:00:21.440 the Bear Grease podcast called The Bear Grease Render, where 0:00:21.480 --> 0:00:25.800 we render down, dive deeper, and look behind the scenes 0:00:26.079 --> 0:00:30.639 of the actual bear Grease podcast. Presented by f h 0:00:30.840 --> 0:00:35.400 F Gear, American Maid, purpose built hunting and fishing gear 0:00:35.640 --> 0:00:38.599 that's designed to be as rugged as the place as 0:00:38.600 --> 0:00:47.120 we explore. Welcome to the Bear Grease Render. This is 0:00:47.159 --> 0:00:50.440 the late August edition The Bear Grease Render. 0:00:50.560 --> 0:00:51.720 The hottest one of the year. 0:00:53.040 --> 0:00:58.600 The hottest bear Grease render of the year was it one? Three? 0:00:58.920 --> 0:01:02.000 Do you know what is on you usual about ursus American? 0:01:02.080 --> 0:01:05.400 It's the American black bear. Is that it's an animal 0:01:05.440 --> 0:01:10.360 with a black coat, lots of fat, thick hair all 0:01:10.480 --> 0:01:13.920 year round. They're not like a mule that has like 0:01:13.959 --> 0:01:15.880 a thick coat in the winter and then sheds it 0:01:16.080 --> 0:01:19.720 like they're pretty much hairy the whole year. Temperature doesn't 0:01:19.760 --> 0:01:23.600 seem to affect bears for real, Like when Guy's hunting 0:01:23.640 --> 0:01:26.399 the fall. The best thing that could be Joe on 0:01:26.520 --> 0:01:29.680 opening day for an Arkansas bear season would it would 0:01:29.720 --> 0:01:32.600 be there would be a ninety degrees No kidding, no, 0:01:32.760 --> 0:01:36.000 I mean it's totally backwards from deer hunting. 0:01:36.280 --> 0:01:39.840 Well, you know I've got some black hair fat. 0:01:42.120 --> 0:01:44.840 I mean, you like the heat too. What's your take? Oh? 0:01:44.920 --> 0:01:47.480 My take is is I've been searching for a town 0:01:47.560 --> 0:01:50.559 named November April. Oh, and if I can move there, 0:01:50.600 --> 0:01:52.760 I'll be at peace for the remainder of my life 0:01:52.800 --> 0:01:55.880 because I just think that those two months are the 0:01:55.880 --> 0:01:57.040 premium months. 0:01:56.720 --> 0:01:58.880 Of the year, some l primo months. 0:01:59.240 --> 0:02:02.440 Let's just honor this bear for being able to tolerate 0:02:02.480 --> 0:02:02.840 all the d. 0:02:04.840 --> 0:02:08.240 Ah. Well, we've kind of got a skeleton crew here 0:02:08.280 --> 0:02:10.959 on the render. This week we had we had one 0:02:10.960 --> 0:02:16.200 guy that was coming was charged by a bear as 0:02:16.800 --> 0:02:19.840 threw him off. Must have thrown his schedule off. Colby Morehead, 0:02:20.240 --> 0:02:23.240 owner a bear hunting magazine, on his way here, had 0:02:23.280 --> 0:02:26.840 a great story. But I guess the bear charge messed 0:02:26.880 --> 0:02:33.000 up his schedule and now he's not get Yeah, maybe 0:02:33.080 --> 0:02:35.680 so pa to go and change clothes, didn't I believe. 0:02:35.480 --> 0:02:37.360 His schedules messed up for a few hours. 0:02:37.400 --> 0:02:38.200 To be fair, if a. 0:02:38.120 --> 0:02:40.200 Bear charged me, I'd need more than an afternoon to 0:02:40.240 --> 0:02:40.880 walk that off. 0:02:40.960 --> 0:02:48.520 So but we do have Joe Wilson, the founder of 0:02:48.560 --> 0:02:51.200 the World Championship Squirrel Cookoff. I told you we were 0:02:51.280 --> 0:02:54.440 going to have you back on before the event in September, 0:02:54.880 --> 0:02:57.280 so it's good to have you. Joe's kind of like 0:02:57.320 --> 0:03:00.480 a one man circus when it comes to podcasts. Joe's 0:03:00.520 --> 0:03:03.560 the Joe's the l primo podcast guest. I could just 0:03:03.639 --> 0:03:07.080 be like, welcome to the bear Greasehrender take it Joe 0:03:07.560 --> 0:03:15.800 and Joe. Yeah, yeah, but we have we have Joe's sidekicks. No, 0:03:16.120 --> 0:03:19.640 not you guys just met Joe today, but longtime friend 0:03:19.760 --> 0:03:23.480 Ben LaGrone, good to see it. Ben, It's good to 0:03:23.520 --> 0:03:26.320 have you. Ben's been uh, he's been after he's been 0:03:26.440 --> 0:03:30.120 getting some pictures of some nice deer. And then, uh, 0:03:30.320 --> 0:03:33.440 my other longtime friend, Jonathan Webster. 0:03:33.120 --> 0:03:35.320 What's I'm really just here for the Apple Butter. I 0:03:35.360 --> 0:03:38.160 was hoping that there might be a second render. I 0:03:38.160 --> 0:03:39.160 miss an opportunity. 0:03:39.200 --> 0:03:41.280 You know what, if I'd have thought about it, I'd 0:03:41.280 --> 0:03:43.720 have brought a jar out and I would have said, 0:03:44.160 --> 0:03:47.840 the most valuable guest of the day gets the jar. 0:03:48.000 --> 0:03:51.880 Joe gets the jar of we're talking to Apple butter. Yeah, 0:03:51.880 --> 0:03:54.240 I ain't do anything for Apple butter and that Apple 0:03:54.280 --> 0:03:55.320 butter man. 0:03:56.080 --> 0:04:00.520 So okay. My conversation today is kind of revolving around bears, 0:04:00.840 --> 0:04:06.640 because yesterday we started baiting bears. We did our inaugural 0:04:06.720 --> 0:04:09.000 trip into the mountains to bait bears. So I'm thinking 0:04:09.000 --> 0:04:13.440 about bears, apple butter. Though. Fifteen eighteen years ago, when 0:04:13.440 --> 0:04:17.000 we bought this land, it's we've lived here almost twenty years. 0:04:17.560 --> 0:04:21.000 I started buying apple trees, and I'm going to give 0:04:21.000 --> 0:04:24.720 you an orchard lesson. Inside the lesson you going to 0:04:24.800 --> 0:04:27.720 learn about a little bit about bears, not much, but 0:04:27.760 --> 0:04:30.599 you're gonna learn more about orchards. The best time to 0:04:30.640 --> 0:04:35.600 start an orchard was five years ago, so you better 0:04:35.640 --> 0:04:38.120 start it now so that five years from now you'll 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:41.840 be happy. When I bought this place, I started buying 0:04:42.680 --> 0:04:50.240 discount apple trees in like mid summer at Low's leaves. Yeah, yeah, 0:04:50.279 --> 0:04:53.360 the little crooked ones with like four leaves that are 0:04:53.400 --> 0:04:54.440 like twelve ninety nine. 0:04:56.360 --> 0:04:58.240 The floor model applied to agriculture. 0:04:58.279 --> 0:04:59.880 Oh yeah, that's the same way I buy a ribb. 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:02.080 I wait till they get that yellow tag on them. 0:05:02.279 --> 0:05:09.400 Yeah, half rotten, half priced te Yeah exactly. 0:05:09.640 --> 0:05:12.400 Okay, that's mistake number one. If you're going to plant 0:05:12.400 --> 0:05:14.680 an orchard, you need to go not to your big 0:05:14.720 --> 0:05:18.200 box stores. You need to go to a local nursery 0:05:18.600 --> 0:05:27.799 and find the disease resistant and the good species of peach, apple, cherry, 0:05:28.279 --> 0:05:31.240 whatever you're after that will grow in your region because 0:05:31.279 --> 0:05:37.440 Low's doesn't care. So I started planting these trees. Yeah, 0:05:37.520 --> 0:05:42.080 I started planting these trees, and basically today, seventeen eighteen 0:05:42.160 --> 0:05:45.640 years later, I have six good apple trees that are 0:05:45.640 --> 0:05:47.800 probably six inches at the base, I mean like full 0:05:47.800 --> 0:05:53.039 grown apple trees, and they have produced sporadic yields for 0:05:53.120 --> 0:05:57.120 all these years. But the life lesson from this, Joe, 0:05:57.960 --> 0:06:01.400 is that I've got six beautiful trees. I bet I've 0:06:01.440 --> 0:06:02.720 planted twenty. 0:06:02.360 --> 0:06:03.880 Five that black hit them. 0:06:03.960 --> 0:06:08.960 Wow, man, weed eaters got them, deer got them, drought 0:06:09.000 --> 0:06:09.400 got them. 0:06:09.480 --> 0:06:11.920 Did you know the history in Arkansas with the apple trees? 0:06:12.160 --> 0:06:13.040 Yes, what's that? 0:06:13.600 --> 0:06:17.080 I mean this has come back to apple. But the 0:06:17.240 --> 0:06:18.440 podcast I want here we go. 0:06:19.560 --> 0:06:23.200 So like if you're driving through uh Bentonville, we got 0:06:23.240 --> 0:06:26.680 a street called Moberley and that was home of Moberley apples, right, 0:06:26.720 --> 0:06:31.159 and so between apple cider, apple vinegar, and apples, Arkansas. 0:06:30.800 --> 0:06:35.280 Was the place it was export. Northwest Arkansas was exporting 0:06:35.520 --> 0:06:38.640 America's apples. Yeah, we were for the time period. 0:06:38.320 --> 0:06:41.880 Where Washington gets the credit. Now, that's what Arkansas was 0:06:42.600 --> 0:06:46.680 for a few decades, multiple decades, and then a blight 0:06:46.839 --> 0:06:49.760 come through. It's the same black that took out the 0:06:49.800 --> 0:06:55.200 chickapin the chick bent oak and wiped out these apples, 0:06:55.240 --> 0:06:57.359 and so our farmers had to come up with a 0:06:57.440 --> 0:07:00.680 new idea. And just so happens, they that feathers on. 0:07:02.600 --> 0:07:07.599 We started poultry directly, chicken farm. Yeah, you know. 0:07:07.880 --> 0:07:10.520 So the apples used to be big here, export and 0:07:10.560 --> 0:07:12.840 apples all over. So there is an apple blight and 0:07:12.880 --> 0:07:17.240 so those traditional like mainstream strains, apples die, So you 0:07:17.240 --> 0:07:20.920 need to get like I think there's one called Arkansas 0:07:20.960 --> 0:07:24.480 Black that's real good. But these are big box store 0:07:24.480 --> 0:07:27.000 apple trees that have survived. They just produced a real 0:07:27.080 --> 0:07:30.640 good crop every couple of years. But this year they 0:07:30.680 --> 0:07:33.320 produced a good crop. But the whole point of the story, Jonathan, 0:07:33.800 --> 0:07:38.600 you keep distracting was I planted those trees for baar bait. 0:07:39.680 --> 0:07:42.120 That's why I planted them. I mean that that's one 0:07:42.160 --> 0:07:45.640 hundred percent. While I planted them, I wanted good, cheap 0:07:45.880 --> 0:07:51.120 bear bait. But today my family makes apple butter off 0:07:51.160 --> 0:07:53.880 of those trees. It's secondary use. It's kind of like, 0:07:54.000 --> 0:07:56.040 not best use, but good enough. 0:07:56.080 --> 0:07:58.040 How many sacks of apples did you carry off in 0:07:58.080 --> 0:07:58.560 the woods? 0:08:00.720 --> 0:08:04.400 I didn't use very many other bears. It was a 0:08:04.400 --> 0:08:07.600 great idea back in the day. But uh no, I 0:08:07.640 --> 0:08:11.160 only yesterday, I only took about probably thirty forty pounds 0:08:11.160 --> 0:08:13.280 of apples that were on the ground once. 0:08:13.080 --> 0:08:16.360 The prime apple or the prime bear bait. I mean, 0:08:16.400 --> 0:08:20.000 what would you is it? Little debby treats, dy old donuts. 0:08:20.840 --> 0:08:23.640 Anything that will make a human fat and unhealthy, a 0:08:23.640 --> 0:08:28.800 bear will love. I'm getting my bait from a commercial 0:08:29.080 --> 0:08:34.000 bar bait distributor. There's there's commercial several big commercial bar 0:08:34.080 --> 0:08:37.880 bait distributors that send stuff all over the country. There 0:08:37.880 --> 0:08:42.640 are companies that deal with the waste by product big how. 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:44.360 I don't know where it comes from, but there's a 0:08:44.400 --> 0:08:46.680 lot of really great food that goes to waste and 0:08:46.720 --> 0:08:50.000 goes to animal feed and bare bait. So like yesterday 0:08:50.200 --> 0:08:57.120 we were buying granola stuff with candies and gummies and 0:08:57.200 --> 0:09:00.480 marshmallows and circus peanuts and stuff like that. But we 0:09:00.559 --> 0:09:03.920 also use corn and dog food. I mean, I man, 0:09:04.080 --> 0:09:08.760 I've baited. Bears are just about everything. They like bread, doughnuts, 0:09:08.920 --> 0:09:09.520 all that stuff. 0:09:09.600 --> 0:09:11.560 Back in two thousand and nine, I was working at 0:09:11.600 --> 0:09:14.120 a local restaurant and you called me up and asked 0:09:14.160 --> 0:09:17.199 about getting into the grease trap and getting the leftover 0:09:17.240 --> 0:09:19.040 fried grease. And I think we did that happen that 0:09:19.160 --> 0:09:21.680 you were going to bring this up worked, I guess, 0:09:21.840 --> 0:09:22.640 I mean you came and got it. 0:09:22.679 --> 0:09:24.920 Oh yeah, grease grease is really good. 0:09:26.360 --> 0:09:27.800 Got on the render. He hadn't forgot. 0:09:27.880 --> 0:09:30.520 That's that the fourteen years ago. The solid contribution of 0:09:30.559 --> 0:09:32.199 five pounds of grease is. 0:09:32.160 --> 0:09:34.280 A spring bear taste here than a fall bear. 0:09:36.400 --> 0:09:38.600 I have never been able to tell the difference, really 0:09:38.679 --> 0:09:41.199 because I have not because you know, like for our squirrels, 0:09:41.280 --> 0:09:45.560 for the squirrel cookoff, a spring squirrel is twice the 0:09:45.600 --> 0:09:47.760 squirrel as a fall Really. 0:09:47.800 --> 0:09:49.840 Well, that's because when squirrels are climbing up the trees 0:09:49.840 --> 0:09:52.400 and they're eating that old bitter you know, a whole 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:55.440 off of the hickory nuts or the walnuts or gone 0:09:55.640 --> 0:09:59.360 or whatever, and so that bitter taste actually transfers into 0:09:59.400 --> 0:09:59.720 the meat. 0:09:59.760 --> 0:10:01.800 So I now, is that in the spring the fall? 0:10:02.000 --> 0:10:04.200 That's in the fall. Okay, So in the spring, the 0:10:04.240 --> 0:10:08.079 squirrels eating berries and sweet you know, sweet grains, and 0:10:08.160 --> 0:10:11.000 all of this nice good food that translates right in. 0:10:11.400 --> 0:10:15.040 I mean, it's no different than a finished beef cow. Yeah, 0:10:15.040 --> 0:10:17.000 compared to a grass joe. 0:10:17.040 --> 0:10:19.480 I don't think my palette is delicate enough to be 0:10:19.520 --> 0:10:24.840 able to tell the difference. But they do say, they 0:10:24.880 --> 0:10:28.000 do say that for sure, in the spring, a bear 0:10:28.120 --> 0:10:30.120 is going to be more lean than a fall bear, 0:10:30.960 --> 0:10:35.360 and so people would like a fall bear would be. 0:10:35.559 --> 0:10:37.679 And I don't like using this term because I don't think. 0:10:37.679 --> 0:10:38.480 The greasy deal. 0:10:38.720 --> 0:10:41.760 Yeah, I mean, bear's not any more greasy than a 0:10:41.840 --> 0:10:45.520 ribbi beef steak or Yeah, you take my bear meat 0:10:45.960 --> 0:10:50.320 that I grind that we make burgers out of meat loaf, 0:10:50.600 --> 0:10:55.360 every spaghetti tacos in brown hit next to a plate 0:10:56.440 --> 0:10:59.160 a deal of eighty twenty beef, and you're gonna have 0:10:59.520 --> 0:11:01.960 way more fat in that eighty twenty beef than you 0:11:02.000 --> 0:11:03.280 are in my bear meat. 0:11:03.280 --> 0:11:06.200 That bear you got in Alaska this year we were there, 0:11:06.240 --> 0:11:08.840 we got a bear week before you. Yep, we got 0:11:08.840 --> 0:11:12.400 two bears, and neither of them had any fat on them. 0:11:12.400 --> 0:11:14.560 I mean, those bears. I think if they would have 0:11:14.559 --> 0:11:16.480 stayed in their holes for a couple more days, they 0:11:16.480 --> 0:11:20.080 probably wouldn't have made it, but you're the favorite. Yeah, 0:11:20.200 --> 0:11:24.520 I mean these were the scrawniest, skinny, no fat bears. 0:11:24.880 --> 0:11:25.240 Huh. 0:11:25.240 --> 0:11:29.040 They were low fat, low fat. Yeah, they were probably 0:11:29.040 --> 0:11:31.880 better for you than that greasy one that you got. 0:11:31.920 --> 0:11:35.000 But yeah, I've always thought that bears is not greasy. 0:11:35.040 --> 0:11:36.360 I don't know where that come from. 0:11:36.480 --> 0:11:42.040 Yeah, yeah, well, I mean there's good reason to say that, 0:11:42.080 --> 0:11:45.160 because they do in the fall, can have a huge 0:11:45.160 --> 0:11:47.920 amount of fat on them. But it's not in the meat. 0:11:47.960 --> 0:11:50.439 It's not marbled like beef yeat, and if it was, 0:11:50.559 --> 0:11:53.320 it would be even better than it is. I mean, 0:11:53.360 --> 0:11:58.280 like marbling and beef is what, yeah is what your Yeah? Yeah, 0:11:58.360 --> 0:12:02.719 and wild game just doesn't marble quite like that. But 0:12:02.720 --> 0:12:04.319 but yeah, they. 0:12:04.320 --> 0:12:07.080 Got to handle on like those Kobe cows where they 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:09.800 go out and you know, massage them and play music. 0:12:09.640 --> 0:12:10.920 That's high quality there. 0:12:11.080 --> 0:12:15.960 That's what we call our black squirrels. Oh yeah, Primo, 0:12:16.120 --> 0:12:17.840 they're the angus of the squirrel world. 0:12:17.920 --> 0:12:22.040 You know, if I should leave some like classic music 0:12:22.120 --> 0:12:24.760 playing at my bare bait, you think it would make you. 0:12:24.880 --> 0:12:27.400 Get Primo marbles? 0:12:29.280 --> 0:12:33.680 Well, Joe, well, before we before we get into Joe, 0:12:33.679 --> 0:12:36.640 before Joe takes over the podcast, I'm sorry no, No, 0:12:36.679 --> 0:12:42.440 this is good. It's good. Ben. You have a Ben 0:12:42.480 --> 0:12:44.080 has a Dad Class. 0:12:43.800 --> 0:12:45.880 And I heard about it on a previous show Austin. 0:12:46.240 --> 0:12:48.959 I think it's pretty good. Tell us what's what's the 0:12:49.080 --> 0:12:49.680 dad class? 0:12:49.840 --> 0:12:50.120 Okay? 0:12:50.240 --> 0:12:53.160 This is this is like my magnum opus. I mean, 0:12:53.840 --> 0:12:57.280 I mean it really is. So for some context, I'm 0:12:57.320 --> 0:13:00.959 an influencer and like the father hood space, and I've 0:13:00.960 --> 0:13:03.160 had the privilege to work with a lot of men, 0:13:03.240 --> 0:13:05.920 do a lot of teaching, mentoring inside men's ministry and 0:13:06.000 --> 0:13:11.880 other contexts. In January, I went on like a pilgrimage 0:13:11.920 --> 0:13:16.559 basically to answer two questions, what specifically makes a great 0:13:16.600 --> 0:13:20.439 father and how do I become one? And through that 0:13:21.440 --> 0:13:24.640 and I talked, I've have survey data and talked to 0:13:24.720 --> 0:13:30.240 people probably like one hundred and thirty dads, and through 0:13:30.280 --> 0:13:35.160 that developed a something called the Framework for Fatherhood. And 0:13:35.200 --> 0:13:39.880 it's like a document that just captures succinctly what makes 0:13:39.880 --> 0:13:43.000 a good dad. And it's a tool that you can 0:13:43.920 --> 0:13:46.000 think about your strengths as a man and a tool 0:13:46.080 --> 0:13:48.280 that you can think about areas to improve. And from 0:13:48.320 --> 0:13:52.240 that I developed like a curriculum. It's an online course, 0:13:52.320 --> 0:13:54.080 it's self paced, and. 0:13:55.679 --> 0:13:58.280 This is what you guys do with your business. Yeah, 0:13:58.320 --> 0:14:02.720 so you as you make on line courses for families, 0:14:02.800 --> 0:14:04.960 and so this fits right in this lineage of what 0:14:05.040 --> 0:14:06.120 yard exactly like. 0:14:06.640 --> 0:14:10.840 We hope someday that it's an online learning hub for 0:14:11.559 --> 0:14:15.400 learning how to build an awesome family. And so the 0:14:15.480 --> 0:14:17.520 dad Class that's what it's called, and you can read 0:14:17.559 --> 0:14:22.520 about it at dad class dot net, Pretty class dot net. 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:25.400 I'm surprised elms that. 0:14:25.360 --> 0:14:26.880 Yeah, well he's making a bid. 0:14:29.360 --> 0:14:32.479 That's actually true. That's actually true. I can't afford that. 0:14:33.160 --> 0:14:36.080 So it's a self paced program that you can go through, 0:14:36.160 --> 0:14:38.000 but we have I know, guys that are going through 0:14:38.040 --> 0:14:41.120 it together, like as friends. You could go through it 0:14:41.160 --> 0:14:43.600 as a men's group at your church or something. And 0:14:43.640 --> 0:14:47.560 it's not necessarily Christian base, but there is a really 0:14:47.600 --> 0:14:51.160 in depth Bible study companion that goes along with it. 0:14:52.040 --> 0:14:52.880 If you didn't. 0:14:54.440 --> 0:14:56.520 But anyway, there's four modules. 0:14:56.560 --> 0:14:59.680 The first one is about manhood, and Joe and I 0:14:59.720 --> 0:15:02.240 were talking talking about earlier about a simple question like 0:15:02.320 --> 0:15:06.200 what really makes a man and diving into that, and 0:15:06.240 --> 0:15:08.280 so in that module, we look at that question, and 0:15:08.560 --> 0:15:11.239 we look at the influences your father had on you, 0:15:11.240 --> 0:15:13.360 You look at all the things that influence you as 0:15:13.360 --> 0:15:16.160 a man. We talk about marriage in that module. The 0:15:16.200 --> 0:15:20.360 second module we dive into the framework for fatherhood and 0:15:20.400 --> 0:15:30.080 that's broken into fatherhoods in four big overarching skills or competencies, Leadership, relationships, shepherding, 0:15:30.640 --> 0:15:31.360 and legacy. 0:15:31.480 --> 0:15:33.840 And that module is awesome. It is awesome. 0:15:34.400 --> 0:15:37.400 It's been life changing for me to develop, and it's 0:15:37.400 --> 0:15:40.280 been life changing for guys that are going through it. 0:15:41.000 --> 0:15:44.080 And then the third module is called Fathering over Time, 0:15:44.600 --> 0:15:47.200 and it's where I take a lot of my knowledge 0:15:47.240 --> 0:15:51.080 of childhood development from my early education days. I used 0:15:51.080 --> 0:15:53.440 to work in public schools and so we look at 0:15:53.520 --> 0:15:56.520 the stages of child development and talk about how fathering 0:15:56.800 --> 0:16:00.520 shifts and changes as your kids age all the way 0:16:00.560 --> 0:16:04.480 up into young adult. And then the fourth module is 0:16:04.560 --> 0:16:07.280 something called brand New Dad boot Camp. So the whole 0:16:07.320 --> 0:16:10.720 course any dad of any age, there's there's there's a 0:16:10.960 --> 0:16:13.080 one guy in the taking the course. He's a grandfather, 0:16:13.200 --> 0:16:15.560 So guys of any age can take it. But that's 0:16:15.600 --> 0:16:17.920 a special module for brand new dads. It's like a 0:16:17.960 --> 0:16:21.680 crash course, a survival guy. If you are a new 0:16:21.760 --> 0:16:26.320 dad and you know nothing, and and I'm really excited, 0:16:26.320 --> 0:16:28.280 so we just launched it a couple of weeks ago 0:16:28.320 --> 0:16:29.080 and you can learn about it. 0:16:29.160 --> 0:16:31.080 So people are already taking the class. 0:16:31.120 --> 0:16:34.120 Yeah, all over the nation, and it's mostly guys that 0:16:34.200 --> 0:16:37.000 have taken My wife's my wife and I was childbirth 0:16:37.040 --> 0:16:39.760 class and stuff. But that that's one of the biggest 0:16:39.760 --> 0:16:42.680 requests that I've got. It was it was it was, Hey, 0:16:42.760 --> 0:16:44.360 I really want to be the best dad I can be? 0:16:44.480 --> 0:16:46.320 Do you have any resources from me? I get that 0:16:46.440 --> 0:16:49.400 question all the time. And then number two, where can 0:16:49.440 --> 0:16:52.040 I find support? So actually, if you when you buy 0:16:52.080 --> 0:16:55.040 the class, you get on this online private group that 0:16:55.080 --> 0:16:57.160 I moderate, and you can get on there. 0:16:57.000 --> 0:16:57.960 And ask questions. 0:16:58.000 --> 0:17:00.440 In the future, we hope to have like special live 0:17:00.880 --> 0:17:02.720 sessions and stuff like that. 0:17:02.720 --> 0:17:05.880 That's cool, man. I just just this week I sent 0:17:06.000 --> 0:17:08.880 Ben a screen clip from a private message somebody had 0:17:08.920 --> 0:17:13.040 sent to me a Bear Grease Render listener who said, Clay, 0:17:13.200 --> 0:17:17.320 I wish I wish you had more stuff about your 0:17:17.359 --> 0:17:22.120 family and how you raise your family, and and he 0:17:22.160 --> 0:17:26.000 was very he was a young father, interested in fatherhood. 0:17:26.440 --> 0:17:29.040 And I clipped it and sent it to you. Yeah, 0:17:29.080 --> 0:17:31.800 and that's that's what we're looking for. People are interested 0:17:31.800 --> 0:17:34.760 in at that's the point I'm interested. Yeah, you know, Joe, 0:17:34.800 --> 0:17:38.639 you said on your podcast you ask everybody. One of 0:17:38.720 --> 0:17:40.400 the questions is what does it mean to be a man? 0:17:40.840 --> 0:17:44.520 We've asked one hundred men what it means to be 0:17:44.600 --> 0:17:48.800 a man, and and traditionally you have about four responses. 0:17:48.880 --> 0:17:52.800 One is is do what you say, and it's hard work, 0:17:53.359 --> 0:17:57.720 and it's being a member of the community, and a 0:17:57.760 --> 0:18:01.439 lot of times friendship, you know, being a good friend, 0:18:01.520 --> 0:18:05.320 being a good father, all of that comes in. We 0:18:05.440 --> 0:18:08.639 also asked the question did your dad ever tell you 0:18:08.720 --> 0:18:12.240 he loved you? And for people I'm about fifty years old, 0:18:12.280 --> 0:18:15.159 you know, and for people my age and older, the 0:18:15.160 --> 0:18:19.399 answers almost always know, really almost always no. 0:18:19.600 --> 0:18:21.640 Man, that is shocking, But for. 0:18:21.680 --> 0:18:26.400 Fifty years and younger, the answer is almost always yes. 0:18:27.359 --> 0:18:32.000 And so there was something that happened maybe in the eighties, 0:18:32.400 --> 0:18:37.760 I don't know that changed this now. Unless that guy 0:18:37.840 --> 0:18:40.440 that we asked a question to went through some major 0:18:41.520 --> 0:18:46.399 physical or mental abuse, the response is he didn't have 0:18:46.520 --> 0:18:51.960 to tell me. I knew. And so that's across the board. 0:18:52.359 --> 0:18:55.040 You'll hear that. The reason why I'm interested in your 0:18:55.040 --> 0:18:58.159 class is I have a seventeen year old daughter and 0:18:58.200 --> 0:19:01.440 an eight year old son. We kind of gap them 0:19:01.440 --> 0:19:02.439 apart a little bit. 0:19:04.280 --> 0:19:05.720 One on the way with this mash. 0:19:07.119 --> 0:19:09.080 Trust me, the doctor said that can't happen. 0:19:11.480 --> 0:19:12.920 The deal is, I do. 0:19:13.160 --> 0:19:16.600 I believe in miracles, But the deal is to me 0:19:16.840 --> 0:19:23.159 is I had a phenomenal relationship with my daughter until 0:19:23.359 --> 0:19:27.359 she was probably twelve and a half going on thirteen. 0:19:27.720 --> 0:19:32.240 This little girl caught every perch with me. We deer hunted, 0:19:32.280 --> 0:19:35.639 she cleaned deer with me. She was my shotgun rider. 0:19:35.720 --> 0:19:38.480 We ate donuts. Every time we could eat donuts, we 0:19:38.560 --> 0:19:42.280 hit the park. And then the dear Lord decided he 0:19:42.359 --> 0:19:44.160 was going to turn her into a woman, and things 0:19:44.240 --> 0:19:50.040 kind of changed, and it it's been a struggle. Now. 0:19:50.320 --> 0:19:53.160 My goal right now is I'm playing kind of like Batman. 0:19:53.240 --> 0:19:56.119 I live in a cave and if she ever needs me, 0:19:56.720 --> 0:19:58.880 she can shine that light and I'll come and run 0:19:58.960 --> 0:20:00.639 in and fix whatever it is as it needs to 0:20:00.640 --> 0:20:04.000 be fixed. But I'm playing the game right now where 0:20:04.200 --> 0:20:09.640 space keeps her from hating me. You know, I mean, 0:20:09.760 --> 0:20:11.879 you want to talk about getting your heart broken, and 0:20:12.359 --> 0:20:15.160 I guarantee you're gonna have a ton of your listeners 0:20:16.000 --> 0:20:20.840 say that that teenage year is evil. I mean it, 0:20:20.840 --> 0:20:23.600 It changes, and I was that I was that kid. 0:20:23.720 --> 0:20:27.480 I remember getting angry whenever as a teenager. I mean, 0:20:27.800 --> 0:20:31.000 we're not in rut, We're well maybe we were. 0:20:30.880 --> 0:20:32.480 But we were at that. 0:20:32.560 --> 0:20:34.560 Point to where, you know, we're trying to prove who 0:20:34.600 --> 0:20:36.360 we are and we're a man we can handle her, 0:20:36.720 --> 0:20:42.399 or you're a girl and a woman. It's a tough, 0:20:42.440 --> 0:20:45.280 tough time, brother, and I'm sure you'll have a lot 0:20:45.280 --> 0:20:47.880 of men if they open up to you, they'll tell 0:20:47.920 --> 0:20:51.600 you that a little girl can break a tough guy's 0:20:51.640 --> 0:20:56.160 heart pretty dang easy. And it sucks. It's a bad, 0:20:56.240 --> 0:21:02.640 bad deal. But being older, I've watched men go through this, 0:21:02.840 --> 0:21:06.200 and I know what the end game is. Those little 0:21:06.200 --> 0:21:08.760 girls are going to come back and they're going to 0:21:08.840 --> 0:21:12.920 find out that dad was just trying to protect them. 0:21:13.359 --> 0:21:15.919 Would he say, you know, when you brought up the 0:21:15.920 --> 0:21:19.480 deal about older the older generation not telling their kids 0:21:19.520 --> 0:21:23.840 they loved him, and then now it would be unusual 0:21:23.960 --> 0:21:27.440 for any any group of people probably to not tell 0:21:27.440 --> 0:21:30.640 their kids they loved them. And my question was, do 0:21:30.840 --> 0:21:33.560 you think that the kids that are being told they're 0:21:33.640 --> 0:21:38.520 loved really feel loved? You know? And I don't know 0:21:38.560 --> 0:21:40.480 the answer. It's not really a trick question. But the 0:21:40.560 --> 0:21:43.720 idea is that if you say something, well, because you 0:21:43.760 --> 0:21:46.920 said that, a lot of the guys that dad never 0:21:46.960 --> 0:21:49.920 told them they loved them, they knew they were loved 0:21:49.960 --> 0:21:53.080 because of the action. And now there's probably just as 0:21:53.080 --> 0:21:56.359 many guys that would say, man, my dad was a warlord, 0:21:56.840 --> 0:21:59.439 you know, and like at some level he loved me, 0:21:59.480 --> 0:22:02.680 but he was kind of a yeah. I mean, there's 0:22:02.680 --> 0:22:04.159 probably different versions of it. 0:22:04.240 --> 0:22:06.560 I think that that's the part that made us know 0:22:06.640 --> 0:22:10.480 that they loved us, is because they gave us rules 0:22:10.520 --> 0:22:15.800 and restrictions and guidance that if they didn't love us, 0:22:15.800 --> 0:22:18.800 why would they tell us that? And so you know, 0:22:18.960 --> 0:22:22.119 for a dad to enforce it and all of a 0:22:22.119 --> 0:22:23.200 sudden you're wrong. 0:22:23.760 --> 0:22:26.679 Well it cars. What is love is love letting your 0:22:26.760 --> 0:22:28.680 kid do whatever they want all the time and giving 0:22:28.680 --> 0:22:31.600 them everything they want, or is love, you know, discipline 0:22:31.600 --> 0:22:34.120 them in the right time and giving them correction and 0:22:34.160 --> 0:22:36.720