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Speaker 1: of things we simply don't know the answer too. Hey, guys, um,
Speaker 1: welcome to a very special spooky episode of Thinking Sideways
Speaker 1: the podcast. Just kidding, it's not going to be spooky.
Speaker 1: I'm Devin, I'm joined by and Steve, and I'm ready
Speaker 1: to disappoint the heck out of you, guys because this
Speaker 1: is coming out just for our Halloween. And guess what
Speaker 1: we didn't do? We kind of got lazy. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: listen as it is this. I really don't think that
Speaker 1: we should be covering this mystery today because technically this
Speaker 1: mystery but on the day it comes out, will not
Speaker 1: quite be five years old. Your day shy with this one?
Speaker 1: All right? Canceled? Canceled podcast O alright by credits. Okay,
Speaker 1: just kidding. Realistically, the beginning of this mystery started more
Speaker 1: than five years ago, true, started like August, right, you
Speaker 1: know what for mysteries, I like them. Sometimes I'll fudge it.
Speaker 1: You know you're fudginged by a day, I'll give it
Speaker 1: to you. Okay, thanks the mystery. If you are not familiar,
Speaker 1: we're going to talk about is um called oct two
Speaker 1: thousand eleven dot com in other words October dot com. Well,
Speaker 1: everybody assumes that the oct means October, but it could
Speaker 1: mean Octal. Yeah. Yeah, I tried to actually translated to
Speaker 1: two oh one one into octal and I got a
Speaker 1: different number, of course, um, but it didn't have any
Speaker 1: meaning to it, so damn it. I was disappointed. Than
Speaker 1: Luckily it didn't take me more than three seconds. That's said.
Speaker 1: This is not a listeners suggestion. Actually I discovered it
Speaker 1: by my own dang self. No, it's crazy. I didn't
Speaker 1: know that we were able to do that anything, you know,
Speaker 1: I know it's like freedom at last. Uh. And I
Speaker 1: do want to give a shout out to William of
Speaker 1: Williams Thing. I'm sorry at Williams Thing. He wanted me
Speaker 1: to say his Twitter. Um, he's a YouTuber that posted
Speaker 1: pretty much the video that you'll see about this whole mystery,
Speaker 1: and he was able to provide me with his source
Speaker 1: videos that he didn't create, but that he sampled for
Speaker 1: his video, So thanks to William and another shout out
Speaker 1: to my cousin who's like an all around genius. And
Speaker 1: I spent a lot of time texting saying like, hey,
Speaker 1: can you explain this quantum thing to me real quick?
Speaker 1: And he would just like fire right back with an answer.
Speaker 1: So that was super helpful for me because we're going
Speaker 1: to talk about some cloth and stuff in a little bit. Really, yeah,
Speaker 1: was he doing that because he actually owes you money
Speaker 1: and this was his way to get out of the dead. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was trying. It's not working. Coming for the legs
Speaker 1: a lot of type and really yeah, and okay, and
Speaker 1: then as a final thing before we jump into this,
Speaker 1: it's just as a little disclaimer, we're going to be
Speaker 1: talking about a website or lots of websites, which means
Speaker 1: we're going to be sitting in our studio. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: we're gonna be looking at sites and pages and stuff,
Speaker 1: and we're going to because we have a Steve Um,
Speaker 1: we're going to provide on our website PDFs of all
Speaker 1: of the stuff we're talking about. So if you're at
Speaker 1: home or at work in a lacks work environment and
Speaker 1: you're able to follow along, that's great. If this is
Speaker 1: one of those mysteries like the Lake City Quiet Pills
Speaker 1: where you're just like if I if I can't see it,
Speaker 1: I'm done, then maybe skip this one or put it
Speaker 1: off until later. But it's gonna be comp yeah. There.
Speaker 1: The documents are huge. Now there's lots of pages. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's like sixty seven in one of them. Yeah, we're
Speaker 1: just going to combine them all. Yeah, yeah, it's a lot. Sorry.
Speaker 1: As a final disclaimer, my goal for this episode is
Speaker 1: a little different than we usually do. Um. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be like a primer for this whole mystery, right, but
Speaker 1: it's really huge and there's so much content that really
Speaker 1: needs to be looked at to be discussed that I'm
Speaker 1: going to encourage people to discuss with us me um online,
Speaker 1: you know, be at Twitter, which is probably not ideal.
Speaker 1: I think Reddit or Facebook is probably the most ideal
Speaker 1: of Yeah, um, so reach out to us on social
Speaker 1: media once you've listened to this episode if it's interesting
Speaker 1: to you, um, take a look at the PDFs. I
Speaker 1: want this to kind of be interactive by the end
Speaker 1: of it. So just also as a disclaimer, because that's
Speaker 1: kind of what this case needs. Okay, hasn't. It hasn't no, um,
Speaker 1: but I think it's really interesting. I think, you know,
Speaker 1: people on the internet just stopped caring things after five years,
Speaker 1: so hopefully this will kind of pick things. Yeah. Well
Speaker 1: in the Lake City quiet pills thing has just kind
Speaker 1: of picked up a little bit in recent weeks, so
Speaker 1: hopefully this will help that. Okay, ready, okay, so now
Speaker 1: twenty minutes later, we're ready for a quick overview or
Speaker 1: five or whatever. According to who is, the website oct
Speaker 1: two thousand eleven, dot com was registered through one and
Speaker 1: one dot com on August seventh, two thou eleven. According
Speaker 1: to the same who is, the site was updated as
Speaker 1: recently as September twenty eight of this year um, and
Speaker 1: the domain doesn't expire until next August August two seventeen.
Speaker 1: But the owner of this domain is utilizing what's called
Speaker 1: the domain parking service, which is UM. You know, when
Speaker 1: you go to a website and it's just like a
Speaker 1: bunch of links for ads. It's just like a white
Speaker 1: page with links. That's what a domain parking services. So
Speaker 1: they're trying to gain revenue through like ad clicks basically,
Speaker 1: but it also is a really good way to just
Speaker 1: like keep the domain and let it expire, but also
Speaker 1: get a little money from it. So that's what the
Speaker 1: site looks like right now. But lucky for us, the
Speaker 1: way back Machine exists. Um, and you will see some
Speaker 1: places that the site doesn't unlock, doesn't allow quote unquote crawlers,
Speaker 1: like the way Back Archive. But if that is the case,
Speaker 1: that's um, the the coding is wrong, because we've got
Speaker 1: we we saw it, we saw all of it. I
Speaker 1: had read somewhere that somebody was saying that, and then
Speaker 1: I'd also seen somebody say, well, apparently because they took
Speaker 1: the site down and they're using it as a parking
Speaker 1: that the robot t x T file that stopped the
Speaker 1: crawlers from being able to pull it was defunct. But
Speaker 1: that doesn't make sense because otherwise the way back Machine
Speaker 1: shouldn't have been able to record anything. I would think, well,
Speaker 1: it would make sense if they like implemented it before
Speaker 1: they implement when they decided to stop maintaining the site
Speaker 1: but hadn't moved to the main parking thing yet, if
Speaker 1: at that point they put the anti crawler text in
Speaker 1: to the htmail, so that would have prevented any new
Speaker 1: things from being snapped um and then once they went
Speaker 1: to the domain parking, it went away. There are some
Speaker 1: of the sites you may have noticed. Some of them
Speaker 1: do have that text in it because you try to
Speaker 1: view it on the way back machine and it doesn't
Speaker 1: allow you to basically, so some of them do have that.
Speaker 1: You get it's there. It's a ghost message. It says
Speaker 1: this page exists, but it doesn't allow crawlers, so we're
Speaker 1: redirecting you to something else. Um. But the majority of
Speaker 1: the pages that are connected to this website don't have that.
Speaker 1: We were able to see it, which is great. Yeah
Speaker 1: for real. Also, the thing you will notice when you
Speaker 1: pull these up on the way back machine is there's
Speaker 1: a lot of broken image links. But as I said,
Speaker 1: lucky for us, we have a Steve, and it turns
Speaker 1: out Steve is insane actually find those images almost all.
Speaker 1: I found almost everything. Yeah. So it took me all weekend,
Speaker 1: but I found almost everything. Yeah. So I'm gonna encourage
Speaker 1: you guys to really go look at the pdf UM
Speaker 1: and if you don't want to do that, you can
Speaker 1: look at the site, but you know you will see
Speaker 1: broken images and the images are kind of some of
Speaker 1: the most interesting stuff in this a little bit. When
Speaker 1: it was active. Dot com was pretty much a huge mystery.
Speaker 1: Even when it was active. There's um a huge labyrinth
Speaker 1: of pages, many of which have messages hidden in the
Speaker 1: HTML code UM, which aren't even the weirdest part of
Speaker 1: some of the messages that are happening on this site,
Speaker 1: and the pages the same page would change on a
Speaker 1: regular basis, like daily completely changed, not just a little
Speaker 1: bit of text, but totally overhaul. Yeah, there's also a
Speaker 1: phone number attached to this website that was posted at
Speaker 1: one time. I haven't seen the page that it was
Speaker 1: posted on. I've just seen the phone number, UM, and
Speaker 1: people when they call that say it you know, it
Speaker 1: rings four times and then somebody answers it doesn't it
Speaker 1: just like gets picked up and it's breathing, and then
Speaker 1: it's like a loud beep. The only place is what
Speaker 1: I got when I call it. Sorry, The only place
Speaker 1: I ever saw the phone number was actually in the HTML.
Speaker 1: That's the only place that I ever saw it listed.
Speaker 1: That's the only place I ever sawt listed too, So
Speaker 1: I presume that's the only place it was. But yeah,
Speaker 1: also that, yeah, I should be really clear that with
Speaker 1: only one exception all any of the theories out there,
Speaker 1: UM don't suggest that this is really a malicious website.
Speaker 1: So we're not talking like a Lake City quiet pill situation.
Speaker 1: We're not talking about like killing and anything like that.
Speaker 1: It's really just yes, it is totally the opposite. It's
Speaker 1: just kind of weird. And the person who created this
Speaker 1: website is most often referred to as Open, So we're
Speaker 1: just going to call this person open. There's no like
Speaker 1: hint at gender pronouns or anything like that, so we're
Speaker 1: literally just going to call this person open. So if
Speaker 1: I start saying open a lot and aside tense, it's
Speaker 1: because I'm trying to avoid gender pronouns. It's a name.
Speaker 1: It's a name. It's a handle. It's a handle. If
Speaker 1: you have to handle, call open like it they Yeah,
Speaker 1: Open created this website, the one that started on Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it was active until about April UM kind of
Speaker 1: and the website is almost impossible to explain in broad strokes.
Speaker 1: I would if I were to try, I would say
Speaker 1: it's a lot of about consciousness and some poor man's
Speaker 1: quantum physics and some pretty simple cipher codes. I would say, yeah,
Speaker 1: add in their awareness and lucid dreaming, and then you
Speaker 1: have that's that's it. There's the broad strokes and then
Speaker 1: that talks about you know, the new golden nature humanity
Speaker 1: and you know, all this stuff and for me to
Speaker 1: get an aliens okay, well actually turn in there. Although
Speaker 1: I did find a related site that has aliens. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know you did those. Um. One of the most
Speaker 1: odd things to me is that there's a wiki attached
Speaker 1: to the page that's dedicated to like a solving community.
Speaker 1: I'm not quite clear how this came about, if Open
Speaker 1: created this or like what, so I I have two
Speaker 1: thoughts on that. I think that either Open created it
Speaker 1: because Open put a call for questions out very early
Speaker 1: on and then each email code by giving the email
Speaker 1: at hinting at the email address, which people figured out.
Speaker 1: And either Open was building the wiki based on things
Speaker 1: that people were writing and sending in, or possibly created
Speaker 1: a user portal side because if because there's a bunch
Speaker 1: of spam in this website. Ye, tons of spam, which
Speaker 1: makes me think that if they if they created an
Speaker 1: user poor, they didn't secure it very well. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: there's just tons of you know, regrow your hair and
Speaker 1: that kind of weird ads in all of this stuff
Speaker 1: that's in there. Well, there's a wiki and then there's
Speaker 1: all kinds of user comments stuff, and that's where I
Speaker 1: got the idea that it might have been a portal,
Speaker 1: which is how it was created with the user comment stuff.
Speaker 1: Are you talking about Record? No? Okay, no, no, I'm
Speaker 1: not talking about Awakening or Record. I'm talking about the
Speaker 1: actual wiki. And you, I don't know if you remember,
Speaker 1: in some of the captures I sent over, there's like
Speaker 1: weird text about you know, in New York, blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: It's like, what the hell is this? I think it's
Speaker 1: a hacked user portal. Yeah. I mean I wouldn't be
Speaker 1: surprised if Open were the person who were running this wiki.
Speaker 1: I also wouldn't be surprised if it was someone else.
Speaker 1: Just the way it's written, it doesn't actually sound like
Speaker 1: it's open. It doesn't um But because of this kind
Speaker 1: of interactive component of the website, a lot of people
Speaker 1: have speculated this is just an a r G. But
Speaker 1: we will get to that in a little bit. So, guests,
Speaker 1: we'll start from the like landing homepage when you type
Speaker 1: in octyn dot com. And by the way, for everybody,
Speaker 1: I know, if you haven't figured it out, it's act
Speaker 1: as the alphabet character. It's O C T to eight
Speaker 1: dot com. So I'm going to call that the homepage
Speaker 1: landing page, UM, and I think we'll start from there. Well,
Speaker 1: and there's two pretty distinct eras for me in this
Speaker 1: there's like the pre October two thousand and eleven actually
Speaker 1: like in in time, and then post because things get
Speaker 1: really really weird after um. And then again, just to
Speaker 1: remind everybody if you missed it in the beginning, we're
Speaker 1: about to talk about things that we're looking at in
Speaker 1: the studios. So we'll try really hard not to just
Speaker 1: talk to that, but it will be helpful if you
Speaker 1: have visuals, so please bear with us. Okay, guys, right, okay, alright,
Speaker 1: So if you visited the site on like August eleven,
Speaker 1: for instance, you'd be greeted by a black screen with
Speaker 1: two images at the top and the text below. If
Speaker 1: you can't have patients for this, you won't be able
Speaker 1: to for that all. But who knows. Yeah, that's a
Speaker 1: little weird. Yeah, So the image links here are broken,
Speaker 1: and when you dig into the HTML code, because again
Speaker 1: we have a Steve, you find that it was originally
Speaker 1: from a website called Project pixels dot com backslash. That
Speaker 1: that web address that's listed there, that's the source for
Speaker 1: what is being displayed on dot com on this one.
Speaker 1: On this one, it's one time that we have this screen.
Speaker 1: So okay, so then you're right, I'm sorry, that's my bad.
Speaker 1: So then the sorry totally treat me up there. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: So you can go to then Project pixels dot com
Speaker 1: slash and it's the same page. Yeah, and that Steve
Speaker 1: the h in the upper left hand core, there's a
Speaker 1: comment there's that was put there by the way back
Speaker 1: machine and not by you, right. Uh oh you mean
Speaker 1: the big black bold text. Yeah, yeah, that totally was No,
Speaker 1: that was I wrote all over these we did also
Speaker 1: in this page before we get too far into Project pixels. Um,
Speaker 1: there's a hidden you y ou inside of brackets. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the and the it's usually square brackets, um that are used. Um,
Speaker 1: but it's just interesting it's there. I think it's on
Speaker 1: most of the pages, to be honest with you, I
Speaker 1: think it's hidden within most of the pages. The hidden
Speaker 1: where is New York? Am I not seeing it because
Speaker 1: it's hidden? Yeah? Yeah, Actually it wasn't on this particular
Speaker 1: page that we're looking at, Joe. And it's always a
Speaker 1: situation where it's a black screen and the text for
Speaker 1: bracket you bracket is in black. So that's why you
Speaker 1: don't see it until you do something like this one
Speaker 1: where we have the code view loaded and you and
Speaker 1: it doesn't happen to be on this one. But the
Speaker 1: word is there, actually, Devin, if you go down, I
Speaker 1: think we can see it actually in the HTML. No,
Speaker 1: because it's this is yeah, this is the reference page.
Speaker 1: We'll look at that again because, like I said, it's
Speaker 1: in most of them. Uh okay. Hopping over for a
Speaker 1: quick second to Project pixels dot com. You may be
Speaker 1: thinking that project pixels dot com is just a website
Speaker 1: from which you can get free images or free pixels
Speaker 1: or free pixels. Would be wrong, Actually, you would be
Speaker 1: dead wrong. On its first capture in October of two
Speaker 1: thousand five, yes, it literally was a place to buy pixels,
Speaker 1: not images, pixels. And I say that because it was
Speaker 1: literally just a gray screen that you could buy a
Speaker 1: certain number of pixels and put your ad space there
Speaker 1: or logo or something. I should be clearer than that. Um,
Speaker 1: this is two thousand five and it's like pixel art.
Speaker 1: It's not. There's no pretty logo stuff. It's all like
Speaker 1: neon color with like a shape, like a circle. That
Speaker 1: was the graphic design pixels. By the way, pixels were
Speaker 1: a lot bigger in those days. They were actually um.
Speaker 1: Then the site. The site gets a little weird um
Speaker 1: somewhere between January two thousand six. In January two thou six,
Speaker 1: those are like the too closest screenshots you can get
Speaker 1: in two thousand and six, and this is your siting
Speaker 1: those dates based on what is available in the main YEP.
Speaker 1: The site is replaced by a blog post called quote
Speaker 1: million dollar Homepage colon busted unquote. I wanted to admit this,
Speaker 1: but Steve has argued his case that this is important,
Speaker 1: and I realized now it is because I missed a
Speaker 1: bit that didn't miss and then didn't call me on earlier.
Speaker 1: So cool. The owner of Project Pixels claims to have
Speaker 1: had the idea for the million dollar homepage before I
Speaker 1: should clarify. The million dollar homepage was a thing where
Speaker 1: it was just like Project pixels, where it was just
Speaker 1: this gray screen except for the person. It was a
Speaker 1: million pixels this homepage, and they sold it a pixel
Speaker 1: or a dollar for each pixel, and they sold them
Speaker 1: in block and they sold them in blocks. I mean
Speaker 1: it was you were required to only by the one pixel,
Speaker 1: but they sold them in blocks. So I thought they
Speaker 1: sold them in blocks of one. Maybe I don't remember.
Speaker 1: It's been so long. I moved on from that bit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they actually sell well, million dollar homepage sold all million
Speaker 1: of them. Yeah, so this person became a millionaire. But um,
Speaker 1: the owner of Project Pixels claims to have had the
Speaker 1: idea first and been selling the pixels on eBay maybe
Speaker 1: or had a Wikipedia page that the person who had
Speaker 1: the successful project of million dollar homepage, uh, stole the idea.
Speaker 1: I guess it's all kind of yeah, it's kind of
Speaker 1: not there's not really a great coherent stream of thought
Speaker 1: in this blog post. You should go look at it.
Speaker 1: It's really interesting anyway. I call it ranting. It is ranting, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it's kind of a good insight. I guess you
Speaker 1: should go check out million dollar Homepage. It still exists. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a part of hystoric. You cannot because they sold
Speaker 1: all millions. Um, but it's really really fun for those
Speaker 1: of you younger listeners who have no idea what the
Speaker 1: internet used to look like just go used to that's
Speaker 1: literally what every flashing everywhere. Yeah, so there's our little
Speaker 1: like jaunt over to Project pixels. Well, but Project pixels
Speaker 1: then changed. It did around the time that our website
Speaker 1: showed up eleven. It changed to this homepage called the
Speaker 1: Human Project. It's still pixel project or project pixels dot com.
Speaker 1: But then it became this little landing page that said
Speaker 1: the Human Project. And it's like a little logo kind
Speaker 1: of thing. I guess, three people looking at an easel
Speaker 1: with an abstract painting on it, and then it just
Speaker 1: says coming soon, and below it it says, uh, Project
Speaker 1: pixels comma not owned by David Gooden, not taking your money.
Speaker 1: Dot dot try again. Just can't let it go. Can't
Speaker 1: let it go. So that's um August eleven. On October
Speaker 1: through we are we're not actually gonna through every page.
Speaker 1: But um, the next day, the homepage on dot com
Speaker 1: looks totally different. Okay, so it is now a blue background,
Speaker 1: dark blue but still bloom. And there's four five images
Speaker 1: that are linked. The links are broken. Like I said,
Speaker 1: we have a Steve, so we actually have all those
Speaker 1: If you go out to the pdf, they're kind of
Speaker 1: posted on there. The first images of a skeleton key
Speaker 1: with like some white pixels around it, and then there's
Speaker 1: text underneath that that says it's not nine, don't be deceived,
Speaker 1: and I think that that's the key. I think it
Speaker 1: might have an equal sign. Yeah, it could be an
Speaker 1: equal sign. I think I see pixels that go down,
Speaker 1: so it's like a rectangle. I actually swear I see
Speaker 1: text peeking above the white lines, like it's blocked out,
Speaker 1: and we're going to come across this in almost every
Speaker 1: image that we talked about kind of stuff, And for me,
Speaker 1: I guess like part of that is it's totally plausible
Speaker 1: that there was like a watermark there. You know, it
Speaker 1: kind of looks like there was watermark their text and
Speaker 1: they just like took a on paint, I must paint,
Speaker 1: just like crossed it out with some Then the next
Speaker 1: image is of a patent image. Perhaps quality of the
Speaker 1: patent image. I mean, I don't know if it's like
Speaker 1: a successful patent or not, but it's yeah, but I've
Speaker 1: literally no idea what it's for. I swear I saw
Speaker 1: somewhere what that's supposed to be, but I cannot remember. Joe,
Speaker 1: do you recognize that thing at all. Are you talking
Speaker 1: about the thing on his fingers or the thing that's
Speaker 1: on the table either. We don't know which is the
Speaker 1: main point here. Yeah, I I don't know either. I
Speaker 1: think the main point is, um, it's it's weird little
Speaker 1: thing that goes around your thumb and your forefinger. It's
Speaker 1: hinged to hold something and apparently I guess it's for
Speaker 1: getting a good grip on things. Maybe, um, I have
Speaker 1: no idea. Anyway, The next image is um hands drawn
Speaker 1: hands holding flame. The next image is this woman who's
Speaker 1: going she's blacked out. It's insula and then there some
Speaker 1: weird like white stuff. It's like a sound wave kind
Speaker 1: of image. And yeah, and this is this is not
Speaker 1: the only version of that photo that's out there. That's
Speaker 1: the other weird thing. Yeah. And then what's interesting too
Speaker 1: about that photograph is that she is completely in silhouette
Speaker 1: and her hands in front of her face and actually
Speaker 1: her thumb and three or four fingers are actually somewhat lit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of hand imagery in this page, there is, uh.
Speaker 1: And then the last one is this like really pixelated
Speaker 1: image of like a Renaissance painting. Steve claims to know
Speaker 1: what it is, but I don't know. I've seen it,
Speaker 1: and the problem is in the PDF. The version that
Speaker 1: I found originally didn't come through very well. But I
Speaker 1: found a much smaller version. It's actually cleaner. It's it's
Speaker 1: a painting. There's angels on the left hand and the
Speaker 1: right hand side of this little rectangular image, and what
Speaker 1: kind of looks like a crown or maybe what do
Speaker 1: they call those hats that were kind of a steel
Speaker 1: cap with fur lined around them. Oh, hell, I don't remember. Crap, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's something like it looks like something like that, not
Speaker 1: that the kind of crown you think of that's open
Speaker 1: on the top, the rness of dome shaped either that
Speaker 1: or it's the caxburg ufo one of the either of
Speaker 1: those things. Yeah. And then below that there's um in black,
Speaker 1: so it's harder to see. There's that you with the priends.
Speaker 1: Do you see that, Joe? I do see it. And
Speaker 1: then underneath that it says who is c h k
Speaker 1: at symbol for greater than m Ari, which I think
Speaker 1: is an attempt at Leite speak, but it's what let speak.
Speaker 1: What is that let is like what like nerds and
Speaker 1: gamers use sometimes where you you substitute letters or numbers
Speaker 1: the shortest. No, it's not shorthand. It's like you use
Speaker 1: a four for an A or three? Okay, yeah, that
Speaker 1: I don't get. Yeah, I don't know what the hell. Okay,
Speaker 1: there's a link on here. It leads to a four
Speaker 1: oh three page, um, which is and then it's not uncommon.
Speaker 1: It's not uncommon um at all. So there you go.
Speaker 1: And so what we're about to look at is actually
Speaker 1: their four or three page, because whoever made this sighte
Speaker 1: was skilled enough to have made a four or three
Speaker 1: of their own. They've also have one that I saw
Speaker 1: that attempted to get redirected to for pages that were missing,
Speaker 1: that they called ghosts dot html. But I could never
Speaker 1: the ghost page. I don't it's not a page. Ghost
Speaker 1: page is the one that like that the way back
Speaker 1: machine is like, oh crap, I can't access this page.
Speaker 1: So that has successful inside taller stuff on it. Okay, Okay,
Speaker 1: I just remember seeing both four or three and ghost
Speaker 1: And for those of us who may not know or
Speaker 1: those of you who may not know, um, you know,
Speaker 1: a four oh three pages just a page that no
Speaker 1: longer but just redirects to it from a dead link. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they just tell you if you've come there in error
Speaker 1: and there's nothing there anymore. Usually, usually it literally says like, oops,
Speaker 1: we can't find that link. This page does not say that. Um.
Speaker 1: It's kind of a weird page. UM. Figure out. I
Speaker 1: understand that's a guy's head in the middle of there,
Speaker 1: but I'm trying to what's around the border there that's
Speaker 1: especially at the bottom. Yeah, I think it's abstract. Brother,
Speaker 1: I don't think it's supposed to be anything specific. So
Speaker 1: it says at the top of this page, it says
Speaker 1: protecting content, and then there's some numbers, and then there's
Speaker 1: a link um. And then there's this thing that you'll
Speaker 1: see at the top of pages a lot that's a
Speaker 1: dot and then a square bracket and then four dots
Speaker 1: and then a close square bracket um. And then there's
Speaker 1: some like gibberish she stuff, and then and then it
Speaker 1: says time Universe but the R is red um. And
Speaker 1: then is this image that I was talking about that
Speaker 1: it looks like the silhouette of a man's head with
Speaker 1: like a black ink splash behind it. Maybe whoever made
Speaker 1: this site loved two things in photo shop. They loved
Speaker 1: the drop shadow, and they loved the blur tool because
Speaker 1: this blur thing that's in this image that we're just
Speaker 1: looking at happens all the time and everything is drop shadow. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: when we get into the manuals, that's a lot of
Speaker 1: really shine in in this four oh three. There's actually
Speaker 1: some text hidden in the h gmail. There's a little message.
Speaker 1: And I'm not going to make a habit of reading
Speaker 1: a lot of this stuff, um, but I do want
Speaker 1: to just give you if you happen to not be
Speaker 1: looking at these pages, UM, I want you to understand
Speaker 1: the crazy. So I'm hoping that one of you, two
Speaker 1: gentlemen will read or attempt to read this little bit
Speaker 1: of of joy here so that people don't have to
Speaker 1: just listen to me talk all the time. Okay, are
Speaker 1: we ready left? Per ende? Single point uh dash greater
Speaker 1: than I'm making, meaning an arrow, no distinction, universe conditions
Speaker 1: Earth beginning that decision plus that decision plus that decision
Speaker 1: plus that decision plus that decision plus that decision plus
Speaker 1: that decision plus that decision plus that decision plus that
Speaker 1: decision plus that decision plus that decision plus that decision
Speaker 1: plus that decision plus that decision plus that decision plus
Speaker 1: that decision decision equals this moment closed, perenne. How could
Speaker 1: it ever be different comma from a single point expansion
Speaker 1: always the same outcome period. I'll take the second half
Speaker 1: of this just because that was well, good job, all right,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start you equal period followed by about three
Speaker 1: quarters of a line of periods with one break in
Speaker 1: their left arrow dash dash dash you two blocks of
Speaker 1: periods infinite. You can choose schedule equal greater than making
Speaker 1: an arrow. Know that you're thinking equal greater than life,
Speaker 1: open pairent inevitable clothes parent, equal greater than red open
Speaker 1: pairent create closed parent dash red one one one three,
Speaker 1: Underscore two to two six, Underscore three, three, three nine
Speaker 1: Underscore b B underscore underscore dot jpg unlocked two dot png, unlocked,
Speaker 1: mode dot jpg, unlocked left t r t y dot jpg, unlocked,
Speaker 1: forgotten dot jpg, unlocked, choice, dot PNG, unlocked, all underscore everything,
Speaker 1: dot png, unlocked right arrow. Oh confused, anybody out there? No,
Speaker 1: not confused, man, This is just like all of my
Speaker 1: chat sessions when my cat is on the keyboard. Yeah. So, um,
Speaker 1: the are that's read universe is actually the link, and
Speaker 1: it takes you to this UM place called UM Record
Speaker 1: of Awakening dot com, which is UM some kind of
Speaker 1: blog platform sort of thing. And when you click it,
Speaker 1: there's a red header and it says the record, and
Speaker 1: then under it and a subheader it says find the
Speaker 1: link and link is in UM square brackets. And then
Speaker 1: there's some posts here, uh that you should probably just
Speaker 1: read for yourself because it's really weird. The stream of
Speaker 1: consciousness is the only way that I can describe that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and there are a lot of links on this website,
Speaker 1: but um most of them are broken or not archived,
Speaker 1: with the exception of one which links to website called
Speaker 1: twelve fourteen Productions dot com. Twelve fourteen Productions dot com
Speaker 1: or x I I x I V Productions dot com,
Speaker 1: um or not dot com. Storry Productions is a website.
Speaker 1: You can still get to it today. It's like it's
Speaker 1: unchanged relatively and graphics are better, and that graphics are
Speaker 1: a little better. That's it. It is a pretty well
Speaker 1: designed website. It's got spaces. The background it says and
Speaker 1: del rivers is x I I x I V Productions, Music, Arts,
Speaker 1: Science and beyond Technology. Article summary Fellowship of talf t
Speaker 1: O t H. I say that's thought. That's what was
Speaker 1: sec Fellowship of THO. It's it's better than the Fellowship
Speaker 1: of the Ring. Yeah, well Fellowship of Thought is is
Speaker 1: a little bit of an outlier there music all right,
Speaker 1: science Fellowship of So what's what is that? You might wonder, Well,
Speaker 1: we clicked on it. He's probably I think it's like
Speaker 1: light or something. No, actually, the Egyptian god of knowledge. Um,
Speaker 1: he's the one with the bird head, the one, one
Speaker 1: of the ones with the bird heads. Uh. And this
Speaker 1: you will notice if you look at the PDF, there's
Speaker 1: a little note from Steve that says this doesn't seem
Speaker 1: cultish at all, because it doesn't at all. No, just kidding,
Speaker 1: yes it does. The conceptual platform is the exit strategy.
Speaker 1: The application forms were updated on this one August two
Speaker 1: thousand and sixteen, so like a month and a half ago, um,
Speaker 1: two months ago, it still exists. They're still apparently taking applications.
Speaker 1: Joe is looking at this website with a bit of
Speaker 1: like a disbelieving just just really I would look at
Speaker 1: all this stuff today and yeah, now these guys are correct,
Speaker 1: but actually I don't think it exists. I think it's
Speaker 1: one guy and maybe maybe, but they're talking about what
Speaker 1: really scared me, what really got me going on. This
Speaker 1: is about compounds, about compounds, as in living compounds, like
Speaker 1: the Branch Davidians, you know, and all those guys in
Speaker 1: the Jonestown. Yeah. So it does seem kind of like
Speaker 1: a Prepper thing to me. Prepper with like minded people.
Speaker 1: I guess they are trying to create so called compounds,
Speaker 1: presumably for the end of times or something such. There's
Speaker 1: one note at the bottom of that page that I
Speaker 1: will mention, and that is that It says the very
Speaker 1: bottom also please read forty two The Answer to the
Speaker 1: Ultimate Questions of Life, the Universe and Everything. And there's
Speaker 1: a link. Wait, isn't that a hitch Checker's guide thing?
Speaker 1: Well so you would think it's hitchicker guide thing, but no,
Speaker 1: Actually they've came up come up with forty two of
Speaker 1: their own tenants by which they should live and they exist.
Speaker 1: You can follow the link. It's um interesting. One of
Speaker 1: the tenants things like don't litter, kind of don't run
Speaker 1: red lights, yeah, kind of wash behind your ears yeah,
Speaker 1: more like don't swear, don't have negative thoughts, yeah, sex
Speaker 1: or procreational only you know, stuff like that. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: that's an interesting thing that's linked to this too. I
Speaker 1: guess I don't know if it really is since it's
Speaker 1: part of the blog. Um, not the blog. Yeah, the blog.
Speaker 1: It's part of the like, yeah, the record, and you
Speaker 1: heard us call it the record earlier. We're going to
Speaker 1: keep calling it the record, I think, I mean, the
Speaker 1: record is definitely part of And there's a couple of
Speaker 1: iterations of the record there are all right back to
Speaker 1: eleven dot com. Mmm, let's move forward a little bit
Speaker 1: to August thirtieth. This is when you get a landing
Speaker 1: page that looks completely different. It's white, it's got a
Speaker 1: red Hall esque circle up in the top left corner. Um,
Speaker 1: it's got this image that's represents the Schrodinger. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: call it Schrodinger. I know it's Schrodinger. Um when you're injured,
Speaker 1: it's what it says on that injury. Well, you know,
Speaker 1: somebody al says an email, correct us, the Strogan is
Speaker 1: your cat paradox. This image it's directly from Wikipedia. So
Speaker 1: there's like no question in my mind that that's what
Speaker 1: that's meant to represent. The rest of the imagery is
Speaker 1: not from Wikipedia correct, like the broken broken lab it
Speaker 1: is lab glasses that this image is. This image is
Speaker 1: on wiki. There's an updated version somebody has done, but
Speaker 1: it is essentially the same. And then there's a nicer
Speaker 1: looking cat that's really and then there's a broken image
Speaker 1: below that. Oh that one, now you forget it. And
Speaker 1: then there's some text. It says, when I'm scared and
Speaker 1: you're close, I feel blank. It's hard to feel blank nowadays.
Speaker 1: Can you find where to be blank? Question mark? Wait
Speaker 1: there and you'll be blank. And then the dot square
Speaker 1: print dot dot dot. Can we just start referring to
Speaker 1: that as the period signature period signature because that period
Speaker 1: signature is all over the place. Yeah, And then below
Speaker 1: that it says, um, things are never initially accepted. However,
Speaker 1: there's plenty of time give up if you must. That's
Speaker 1: what history has taught you. If you're losing, track back
Speaker 1: on the trains. And then a huge number and then um,
Speaker 1: love in parentheses behind that number. And I always trying
Speaker 1: to figure out if the love was like a tennis reference.
Speaker 1: And by the way, obviously, oh yeah, it's a good point,
Speaker 1: but the obviously that was sort of a fill in,
Speaker 1: like a villain the blanks in the sense, and I
Speaker 1: think the word you're supposed to use as drunk, well correctly,
Speaker 1: that is actually um. And so this is the first
Speaker 1: time that we kind of see the interactive quality of
Speaker 1: the puzzle. For Yeah, so below the numbers and love um,
Speaker 1: there's an image of island with some clouds over it.
Speaker 1: I have no idea what in this guy. There's some code.
Speaker 1: Briefly before we talk about the film of blanks Um,
Speaker 1: there's this little bit of code. It's a little JavaScript guy,
Speaker 1: and it's my understanding that basically what it's saying is, hey,
Speaker 1: calculate based on the based on the epic um, which
Speaker 1: is a date that you give right, um, calculate how
Speaker 1: many seconds from now until then, or milliseconds. Calculate how
Speaker 1: many milliseconds from now until then, And obviously the epic
Speaker 1: was October eleven. However, I've done the math based on
Speaker 1: the screen captures, and I know it doesn't work. It
Speaker 1: doesn't work. So I don't know if that's just like
Speaker 1: a because the way back machine is kind of wonky,
Speaker 1: or like what. I actually don't what I could never
Speaker 1: figure out later on in the site, it's very obvious
Speaker 1: that the numbers are changing in these white screen pages.
Speaker 1: They seemed like they were more of a written text,
Speaker 1: because I would expect that after the epic code and
Speaker 1: its end script, then everything else is written with the
Speaker 1: word love affort. I presumed, and I could be wrong.
Speaker 1: This is a presumption on my part that that was
Speaker 1: a written number, as in they wrote it on it.
Speaker 1: I see what you're saying. Yeah, I didn't notice that before,
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, So yeah, I don't know
Speaker 1: what that number. Yeah, I have no idea. So what
Speaker 1: what data we on right now? How many how many
Speaker 1: people are visiting this website by not by this time
Speaker 1: on that day, you know, actually there it was starting
Speaker 1: to get some decent not that though, I could just
Speaker 1: six days up. Well, no, I remember, no, this is
Speaker 1: what this came up. The site was created, like on
Speaker 1: the eleventh of August. We've been around a couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: But I seem to remember forum posts that maybe all
Speaker 1: the foreign posts were after. I just remember that people
Speaker 1: were on this page or on this site all the time.
Speaker 1: But I might be thinking too far into the future
Speaker 1: from where we are. I think you are, So okay,
Speaker 1: let's quickly because you were thinking maybe that's a counter. Well, no,
Speaker 1: I wasn't thinking that was a counter of this, because
Speaker 1: that would be a fantastic it's not. I don't think
Speaker 1: it was that. It could be any thinking. It could
Speaker 1: be a code, that could be god knows. Yeah, but actually,
Speaker 1: let's return a little bit to the film the blanks above. UM,
Speaker 1: and you will see that I mentioned this little like
Speaker 1: how red orb up in the corner here, and uh,
Speaker 1: this ORB turns green at some point it's replaced with
Speaker 1: a green one. Actually doesn't turn green, is replaced with
Speaker 1: a green one. It looks it looks like a light essentially.
Speaker 1: It does like a little like a little light indicator,
Speaker 1: not a light bowl. Yeah, and it seems okay. So
Speaker 1: the word that you fill into the blank there is safe.
Speaker 1: It's safe or free depending on apparently when users gas
Speaker 1: and don't. I don't totally understand how users were guessing.
Speaker 1: I think it was on the record people were guessing
Speaker 1: saying like, hey, open is it this um? And then
Speaker 1: the light changed Apparently when somebody said hey is it free? Um,
Speaker 1: the light turned purple or the orb sorry, the orb
Speaker 1: turned purple for like a little bit, and then somebody said, no,
Speaker 1: it's safe. And then it turned green and that led
Speaker 1: people to the safe, which is oct eleven dot com
Speaker 1: slash safe, which it turns out leads to like a
Speaker 1: bunch of stuff like the manuals all that. And then
Speaker 1: there's this little bit of text in the HTML again
Speaker 1: as a little comment, and it has it has the
Speaker 1: phone number, which I'm not going to read. It's super
Speaker 1: easy to find, come on, you guys. And then it
Speaker 1: says open at and most will miss the point entirely
Speaker 1: have and will continue to looking for material. This is
Speaker 1: why we are so disconnected from everything connecting at record
Speaker 1: dot oct And and then there's some weird little bit
Speaker 1: of stuff here. It's um for backslashes, sorry for forward slashes,
Speaker 1: three bars and seven asterixes. We call them the coding
Speaker 1: world splats um. And then next there's a comma and
Speaker 1: then it's five bars, three forward slashes, and two splats
Speaker 1: or asterix or as we call them in the real world,
Speaker 1: as a normal human beings called them. And it turns
Speaker 1: out this is a code. It's not very complex, but
Speaker 1: it's a code. Actually, I got to tell you that
Speaker 1: there's it kind of is complex in that the way
Speaker 1: that somebody guessed of what to do with what we're
Speaker 1: talking about, how to make it work. It's it's it's
Speaker 1: it's not highly sophisticated, it's sophomore level. Maybe, okay, I'll
Speaker 1: give it that. I would say, paint of this is
Speaker 1: a plus and this is a minus. In this multiply
Speaker 1: it's not an orphan any like Dakota ring. But it's
Speaker 1: also not, like, you know, insanely challenging. So Steve has
Speaker 1: kind of said for you all that first one, the
Speaker 1: four forward slashes three bars and seven splats um symbolize
Speaker 1: four plus three equals seven, or it could just symbolize
Speaker 1: number four thirty seven or four thirty seven. And then
Speaker 1: the second one is five minus three equals two, which
Speaker 1: is seventy two, which yields nothing but or five thirty two.
Speaker 1: But I think it was meant to be like a
Speaker 1: key more than anything else, because this coding cipher thing
Speaker 1: becomes way more prevalent and way more complex, and those
Speaker 1: do lead to things eventually. They eventually, Yeah, next day,
Speaker 1: we're not to the next day. We still got to
Speaker 1: talk about safe. Yeah, let's talk about the safe for
Speaker 1: a second. It's a my understanding. I don't know if
Speaker 1: this is true or not. I may have totally made
Speaker 1: this up, but from reading stuff it sounded like the safe.
Speaker 1: If you like put in dot com slash safe, it
Speaker 1: basically gave you like a keypad. It's a red screen
Speaker 1: with a gray gray keypad in the middle, and it's
Speaker 1: that's This is one of the things that drives me
Speaker 1: crazy with it is that they did that same stuff
Speaker 1: where it's the keys go one, two, capital E, so
Speaker 1: it's supposed to be three. It does that kind of
Speaker 1: stuff through but yeah, there is. It doesn't work. But
Speaker 1: but so you could just type in numbers and it
Speaker 1: would direct you to pages if you've got a valid
Speaker 1: if you've got a valid number. So these this is
Speaker 1: how people discovered five manuals in the safe um with
Speaker 1: a lot of other pages as well, and just some
Speaker 1: really cookie random stuff. Um. One of them is like
Speaker 1: literally just a YouTube video of the Beatles singing Hello Goodbye,
Speaker 1: which I thought was kind of weird because I saw
Speaker 1: that and I was like, oh my god, Paul is dead.
Speaker 1: Oh no, well it it also made me think of
Speaker 1: I found another site when I was doing some other
Speaker 1: searches that was in the same vein in the same timeframe,
Speaker 1: and it it had the I am the wal wrist
Speaker 1: on there. I was like, ah, this is so related
Speaker 1: to Paul. It's debt. Okay, So we're going to skip
Speaker 1: ahead a little bit because I don't want to talk
Speaker 1: about every single and the manuals planning. You need to
Speaker 1: go look at the manuals. Yeah you do, and we'll
Speaker 1: talk about one of them, but not all of them.
Speaker 1: And then again, I'm just gonna skip ahead a little
Speaker 1: bit because I don't want to talk about every single
Speaker 1: one of these pages. Because it changed every day, literally
Speaker 1: every day. Dangnir every day. On September three appears a
Speaker 1: simplified Chinese symbol that is den is what Google pronounced
Speaker 1: to me from this Chinese character. Um, it's simplified Chinese.
Speaker 1: It's not conjy. You'll see people say it's kolanji. It's not.
Speaker 1: And it roughly translates to mean endure. And I see
Speaker 1: a lot of people say it's like, oh yeah, um,
Speaker 1: patience is a virtue. Endure is what this means. No,
Speaker 1: that's bull hooey. It's really like tolerate, like endure it
Speaker 1: tolerate it. Yeah, it's yeah, it's like patient that kind
Speaker 1: of thing. I think it's more of like, Okay, deal
Speaker 1: with it. Not like your patience is a virtue. It's like,
Speaker 1: is it more of a crap happens? Deal with it? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's kind of my interpretation of it. And please somebody
Speaker 1: email me if I'm totally wrong about that. You don't
Speaker 1: invite that um And then below that is a really
Speaker 1: good instance of the that cipher that we're talking about. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's way more complex, and it basically translates to
Speaker 1: one plus one, three times one, ten minus two and
Speaker 1: five plus two, which returns, of course to three eight seven.
Speaker 1: And again, I don't understand how that frig people figured
Speaker 1: out that one means minus and the other means multiply,
Speaker 1: because there's nothing to indicate that in here. Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know that people actually do know that you don't.
Speaker 1: People could be making all sorts of strange assumptions. Plus
Speaker 1: is when your first value is a forward slash. Minus
Speaker 1: is when your first value is bar. Times is when
Speaker 1: your second value is a back. That absolutely does not work.
Speaker 1: You have you have two sets of numbers here that
Speaker 1: both start with a forward slash. This code is messed up.
Speaker 1: Plus is a forward slash and a bar or your
Speaker 1: two values. Okay, minus is those swapped, so it starts
Speaker 1: with bars and with forward slashes. Okay, times is when
Speaker 1: you've got your first value is a forward slash and
Speaker 1: your second values of backslash. So they're opposing each other
Speaker 1: to make so they make those like and then there's
Speaker 1: no I've never seen divided, so okay, three by one.
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's dumb. Yeah, I don't know why.
Speaker 1: I apologize to everybody. You need to be looking at this.
Speaker 1: This code is just like the presumptions to make it
Speaker 1: work and to actually have got it to work or
Speaker 1: just mind numbing to me. Yeah, And realistically, there's there
Speaker 1: are enough pages that link off of the safe that
Speaker 1: you could literally just type in four random numbers and
Speaker 1: people did probability of hitting up pages pretty high come
Speaker 1: out of the safe. So this one actually links to
Speaker 1: an image of a playing card. Um, that's the Illuminati.
Speaker 1: On September six, we add music to this page um
Speaker 1: and some additional images to the whole cat image and
Speaker 1: it says deja vu at the top. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of images on this this page. This is another one
Speaker 1: of the one where they're totally going crazy with the
Speaker 1: blur tool. Yeah, it is um and then this this
Speaker 1: day is the day where you get this added fun
Speaker 1: little comment on the h T M L that says
Speaker 1: it has absolutely no connection to a website called heart
Speaker 1: Calm dot org, which like Settle like yeah you do,
Speaker 1: you don't like, don't say you don't have a connection
Speaker 1: to a thing. If you don't have, just don't point
Speaker 1: it out. Heartcom dot org is another one of those
Speaker 1: things that totally still exists, and it's exists in its
Speaker 1: true form to this day is today. I thought today
Speaker 1: looked better than slightly because there wasn't as many of
Speaker 1: the little dancy gift things. Yeah, so it's worth seeing
Speaker 1: in the way back machine. But the content is really just,
Speaker 1: you know, for all intense purposes the same. Heartcolm dot
Speaker 1: org is uh I guess selling touting the tell a
Speaker 1: Calm way of life. That is to say that they
Speaker 1: are defining, refining, combining, and shut minding their way to
Speaker 1: full spectrum light on a five D consciousness. Their logo
Speaker 1: is the Illuminati I from the U S currency and
Speaker 1: love written under it. So where do I sound the check? Um?
Speaker 1: You can make it out to cash and it's part
Speaker 1: of this charity that I'm I mean, you can just
Speaker 1: use the initials. It's convicts or saving horses the organization
Speaker 1: I'm with, OK, yeah, yeah, you can abbreviate that if
Speaker 1: you need to. Yeah, because I know that there's not
Speaker 1: enough room on your check. No, not really, but yeah,
Speaker 1: these it sounds like these guys are totally on the
Speaker 1: right track, especially with the five D consciousness. Yeah. See, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's an image. They took a dollar literally, Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a crop dollar bill. There's a lot of texting here.
Speaker 1: If you want to read it, you totally are willing
Speaker 1: to I or welcome to do Maybe not willing, but
Speaker 1: I wasn't willing. I read some of it, but not
Speaker 1: very much. There was a couple of things I had
Speaker 1: to stop reading. Yeah, this was one of them for me.
Speaker 1: The quickening was the other. When they got me, I
Speaker 1: couldn't read that or watch it. Yeah, I guess. Will
Speaker 1: skip ahead to September seventeen, where the page changes to
Speaker 1: a black background. There's a blinking twelve o'clock like digital
Speaker 1: clock in the corner, and there's um some numbers at
Speaker 1: the top. Now, the thing about this set of numbers
Speaker 1: is now it starts with a negative a dash. Well,
Speaker 1: this one all I mean that number is like almost
Speaker 1: the exact same as the one that was in the
Speaker 1: in the original pages, that number never started with a dash.
Speaker 1: What date are we at now where it did? Did it? Yeah? Okay,
Speaker 1: so the number is updating? All right? Is it get okay?
Speaker 1: So let me ask you this, because I have a
Speaker 1: hard time with this. Is the number getting bigger or smaller?
Speaker 1: I had to stop tracking the stupid number. I apologized
Speaker 1: asking this, but I couldn't take it anymore. Yeah, I understand.
Speaker 1: So that's the number on the other page, just so
Speaker 1: you know, that's okay, that's that's such a huge strange
Speaker 1: string of okay. So here let's go through here. It's
Speaker 1: getting bigger if it's a negative number? Is it increasing
Speaker 1: or decreasing? Oh god, I I barely got through. So okay.
Speaker 1: So it's got the twelve o'clock blinking in the bright
Speaker 1: left hand corner. Um, there's some numbers. The first string
Speaker 1: starts with a dash and is getting bigger. Then there's
Speaker 1: a two point one to nine, and then a three
Speaker 1: point five one long strings numbers, and then set of
Speaker 1: four five images, five images again right after the other. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and because again we have a Steve he actually compiled
Speaker 1: this together to make it into a gift. Jeff I say, gift. Great,
Speaker 1: everyone else calmed down, it's a gift. So this is
Speaker 1: this is one photograph. This is one photograph that has
Speaker 1: been photoshop badly. Photo shop. Yeah, I would say, because
Speaker 1: they take, they take. So Okay, here's Joe described this photo. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it looks like it's set in the park. It's
Speaker 1: on a lake or perhaps a river. There's a beach
Speaker 1: off in the distance of the wiste, the water far shore,
Speaker 1: trees in the foreground. You see a lot of a
Speaker 1: lot of grass, and on the left hand side there's
Speaker 1: a tree, and on the right hand side there's you
Speaker 1: could just barely see some trees like just coming in
Speaker 1: the left hand and the right hand side of the frame,
Speaker 1: and there's a bunch of people sitting, standing, walking and
Speaker 1: so on the tree. There's two people sitting to the
Speaker 1: left of the tree and one person standing to the
Speaker 1: right of the tree. People just start moving, Yeah, people,
Speaker 1: people start disappearing and reappearing. Yeah. So there's like two
Speaker 1: A couple of people to the right of the tree
Speaker 1: disappeared the second in the second frame. In the third frame,
Speaker 1: they reappear but then two people to the left of
Speaker 1: the tree disappear. The trees eating them figured it out.
Speaker 1: And then in the last one, they're quite like instead
Speaker 1: of the woman that was standing next of the tree,
Speaker 1: there's like a clone of one of the women that's
Speaker 1: sitting in the chair. And then below what it says
Speaker 1: choice as yours. And then a bunch of people also
Speaker 1: on the shoreline down there disappeared in that one. They
Speaker 1: reappear here. Yeah, so will again. I think we'll try
Speaker 1: to put this up somewhere on our website so you
Speaker 1: can just see. Um, it's kind of interesting. I'm not
Speaker 1: totally sure what the goal of it is, but hey,
Speaker 1: there you go. I don't know. This picture got used
Speaker 1: for a good length of time on the site. Did Yeah,
Speaker 1: it could be numbers could be cut again. Two people
Speaker 1: disappeared to you know, two people disappear, disappears. And the
Speaker 1: thing is is that you know, the period signature is
Speaker 1: again present on this page. Yeah, that's true, and there's
Speaker 1: no weird wait, go back and back and back and back. Sorry,
Speaker 1: in the code here they have altered. So this is
Speaker 1: something that I noticed for certain images is there's alt text,
Speaker 1: and in this one, the alt text is patients, while
Speaker 1: others reflect. I don't know what it means, but I
Speaker 1: noticed some of the images had that same kind of
Speaker 1: descriptive all text. Yeah. One of the things that I've
Speaker 1: noticed that's kind of a common theme throughout is that
Speaker 1: open continues to kind of you almost goad people on.
Speaker 1: There's definitely the sense of like other people are getting this,
Speaker 1: why aren't you getting this? Or like hey, hang out,
Speaker 1: other people aren't getting this, so just like chill, we're
Speaker 1: doing this all together, which is weird, but Okay, this
Speaker 1: is why I still feel like there's some ascendence toned
Speaker 1: all of this ascension I'm looking for. Well, yeah, we'll
Speaker 1: talk about that. Yeah, I kind of like Heaven's Gate.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know if that's what it
Speaker 1: is or not. But yeah, yeah, we got a candle,
Speaker 1: so you know that, which is that was actually an
Speaker 1: animated gift. Yeah, and then and the clock went to
Speaker 1: twelve o one on that one on October seven. But
Speaker 1: we're gonna skip ahead a little bit. We're gonna skip
Speaker 1: two October. When the page changes back to a white
Speaker 1: background page. At the top, it says start in California,
Speaker 1: and then there's that number that's like a hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty trillion? Is that? I think it's trillion? Yeah? Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then below that is an image of a guy
Speaker 1: who's simultaneously asleep and awake. I guess, or maybe it's
Speaker 1: double exposure. Yeah, I mean it's a double I know
Speaker 1: it's a double exposure. I'm just saying, like it's a
Speaker 1: person laying down on a person sitting up, and the
Speaker 1: cat very simil illustration. Yea. Below that is a picture
Speaker 1: out of like a textbook of a probability equation which
Speaker 1: my cousin explained to me which I didn't like. The
Speaker 1: probability of a over being. Yeah, it's um that. It
Speaker 1: refers to the probability of A over B being equal
Speaker 1: to the probability of a intersecting over B. The probability
Speaker 1: of UM of a over B is equal to the
Speaker 1: probability of a intersecting B over the probability of A. Sorry,
Speaker 1: I totally get it. Okay, I'm going to use that
Speaker 1: every day from now on. I'm sorry, Can you put
Speaker 1: that into a probability of a over before before? Because
Speaker 1: otherwise we can't have this conversation, Mr Barista. I can't
Speaker 1: pay for it without a probability. I use this constantly
Speaker 1: when I'm driving. No, you're laughing, but you do. I
Speaker 1: mean this is like a probability equation that you do
Speaker 1: some unconscious yeah yeah. And I'm always like, you know,
Speaker 1: what's what's the probability that the more on in front
Speaker 1: of me is going to slow down? And probability is
Speaker 1: high below that is um some text that says when
Speaker 1: do dreams starts to sleep in? When do dreams start
Speaker 1: to seep into reality? And then choy it is yours
Speaker 1: and then the period signature period signature, and then there's
Speaker 1: a message from Open. We're not going to read it,
Speaker 1: but it's written to those involved and those who have
Speaker 1: just started seeking, and basically Open just wants people to
Speaker 1: like calm down. Um there apparently there's some ne activity happening.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Basically what's going on here is Open
Speaker 1: claims and a lot of those little HTML things like
Speaker 1: this isn't a game comments, Yeah, this isn't a game.
Speaker 1: We're not playing a game here. It's not a game.
Speaker 1: But then Open also posts things like this and you're like, well,
Speaker 1: obviously it's a game, Like what what, I don't know, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a game. It's a prank and who knows, who knows,
Speaker 1: just deliberately wasting people's time. Yeah, and then there's another
Speaker 1: little comment under here, which I'll read because it repeats
Speaker 1: for the I think the duration of this website being up.
Speaker 1: This is a comment in the landing page. Well this,
Speaker 1: this comment is repeated man over again. So this comment says,
Speaker 1: if you're expecting explosion, fires, death and destruction, then your
Speaker 1: mind is in the wrong place and you will be disappointed.
Speaker 1: That is not what this is about. There has never
Speaker 1: been a mention of an ending. There will always there
Speaker 1: will be a twenty nine. Those who continue to look
Speaker 1: for an event have been missing the point from the beginning.
Speaker 1: It is within and eventually you will see that maybe
Speaker 1: this was in retaliation of that crap TV show that
Speaker 1: was on for a while the event. Wasn't that what
Speaker 1: that was called? Yeah? Do you know what I'm talking about? Oh,
Speaker 1: it was on and it must have been two thousand
Speaker 1: and ten, two thousand eleven, and there was It was
Speaker 1: on for a season and it was a really crappy show.
Speaker 1: Never saw it. You know what, You're lucky. We're gonna
Speaker 1: hop to October. Getting dangerously close to here. Um, where
Speaker 1: most of the most of the pages kind of the
Speaker 1: same as the one we just described, um, except for
Speaker 1: below the choice is yours and the period sign off
Speaker 1: the ellipses sign off. There's three images. One is like
Speaker 1: a thinking bubble from a cartoon. One is like a
Speaker 1: hand pointing out a watch on a wrist, and then
Speaker 1: the other is I think it's an optical illusion, that
Speaker 1: image illusion optical illusion. Well, I just mean that it's
Speaker 1: meant to be an optical illusion when you reverse image
Speaker 1: search this there, this exact thing minus the blue and
Speaker 1: red is an optical illusion. I don't know what it's
Speaker 1: meant to do, but okay, I'll believe you, Okay, great
Speaker 1: perfect um, and I have it on good authority from
Speaker 1: somebody sitting in this room that these all three are links,
Speaker 1: and they all linked to the exact same thing, which
Speaker 1: is just a page with those three images on it.
Speaker 1: So you want to know what's the weird thing about that? Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: I really was convinced that this had to go somewhere,
Speaker 1: and I kept trying combinations it didn't work, and then
Speaker 1: I would back up to the very beginning and keep
Speaker 1: trying it again. It wasn't until I went to the
Speaker 1: archive whoever was doing this. So the thought bubble is one,
Speaker 1: the hand pointing at the watches too, and the weird
Speaker 1: circle picture is three. That's what they that's what they
Speaker 1: refer to him. As they took it far enough that
Speaker 1: they build each answer. You could hit one like five
Speaker 1: times and it was a new page, so that if
Speaker 1: somebody was actually watching the page or the address bar,
Speaker 1: they'd be like, oh, I've got to be getting closer,
Speaker 1: because it would be uh dot com forward slash one,
Speaker 1: forward slash one, forward slash one, forward slash one, forward
Speaker 1: slash one, until eventually it's stopped. But it was cookie
Speaker 1: how far they like, I don't but it never went
Speaker 1: anywhere that I could find, So I don't know what
Speaker 1: that heck it was about. You're talking about clicking on
Speaker 1: the images themselves, yes, because if you clicked on one
Speaker 1: the thought bubble, it would take you to a new
Speaker 1: page which was one, two, and three thought bubble hand
Speaker 1: and the dots, and you could then click on one
Speaker 1: again and that page would look like the page had
Speaker 1: just reloaded, but in fact was a new page that
Speaker 1: was identical, and then you could click on one again
Speaker 1: and it would look like it reloaded the same page
Speaker 1: when in fact it had really had just loaded a
Speaker 1: new page again that was identical. That's what I mean.
Speaker 1: They took it layers and layers and layers deep, and
Speaker 1: that's themendous amount of work and the questions of course why, yes, exactly,
Speaker 1: like why I never saw the point? Yeah, probably my family.
Speaker 1: I think maybe in the message here is like believe
Speaker 1: that time is an illusion? Yeah, I thought it was
Speaker 1: something like thought is what makes time an illusion? Or
Speaker 1: like your brain or consciousness is time's illusion or something
Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, I agree, something like that. Those who
Speaker 1: say that time doesn't really exist. Yeah, it's a flat circle, man.
Speaker 1: And you know, I tried to tell my boss that
Speaker 1: bathtard show up, but it's elusion. Here. There's a like
Speaker 1: a tweet that keeps getting circled around that is like
Speaker 1: one of my favorite things. And it's like, you know, boss,
Speaker 1: like why are you late? Guy who's about to invent
Speaker 1: dilight savings times? Oh haven't you heard for me? Um? Okay,
Speaker 1: So we're going to skip ahead to the next time
Speaker 1: that there's a snap shot of this on the way
Speaker 1: back machine. And now one would assume, given that this
Speaker 1: website is called October eleven, that some enterprising, fewer forward
Speaker 1: thinking fireworks or something going on, or they would just
Speaker 1: be like, hey, you know what I'll do. Uh, We've
Speaker 1: been cataloging this on the way back machine. I've been
Speaker 1: hitting you know, snapshot this page. This is the very
Speaker 1: day that this website was created for. I will go
Speaker 1: and snap it. No, not not a single image of
Speaker 1: what this website like on October twenty. Nobody's given it
Speaker 1: doesn't exist. That's so frustrating to me with Internet guys. Geez.
Speaker 1: So the next image we have is from October two
Speaker 1: days after the fact, two days after the fact, after
Speaker 1: the the web equivalent of the money shot, and we
Speaker 1: don't have it. Don't have it. Yeah, the cameraman was
Speaker 1: just shy. I don't know. Top of the page, top
Speaker 1: of the pages, the Ellipses sign off. Then there's the
Speaker 1: three images, the thought time illusion, and then under it
Speaker 1: it says the record which is a link, and then
Speaker 1: website again um, and then it says when it's speeds
Speaker 1: and it's tough to make out, I'll be here to help.
Speaker 1: And then below that it says a symbol, not an
Speaker 1: event for those who have reached an understanding that date
Speaker 1: will never fade, it will remain. That is more powerful
Speaker 1: than material to open your eyes. That's the whole lot
Speaker 1: of sense, whole whole website. There. There's a little note
Speaker 1: in the htmail here which I suspect was uploaded before October,
Speaker 1: just because it says soon October all over the world. Um.
Speaker 1: And then it says this website was and continues not
Speaker 1: to be a scam. It will remain here for when
Speaker 1: it is needed for answers. And then it has that
Speaker 1: if you're expecting explosions destruction a bit down there too.
Speaker 1: This bit of grammar is the most troubling thing to me,
Speaker 1: the this website was and continues not to be a scam.
Speaker 1: Just it's more better English. But okay, wait, I want
Speaker 1: to I want to point something out because we're going
Speaker 1: to talk at least I intend to talk about this
Speaker 1: in theories. I want to point out that it says
Speaker 1: here in the text that is not what this is about.
Speaker 1: There has never been a mention of an ending. There
Speaker 1: will be a twenty nine, so those who continue to
Speaker 1: look for an event up. So that's something that I
Speaker 1: want to point out. That's in the code which I
Speaker 1: read a little earlier but yeah, that's fine. There's been magize. No, no,
Speaker 1: it's really fine. So the link goes to the record.
Speaker 1: On the PDF, there's a nice little screen cap of
Speaker 1: a post that was made on October one, more stream
Speaker 1: of consciousness, really stream of consciousness stuff. And then the
Speaker 1: website changes to just be some weird stuff. It basically
Speaker 1: transitions to this website that's got the ellipses thing at
Speaker 1: the top, and then it has something one like one
Speaker 1: little phrase that changes, and then under it's a link
Speaker 1: to the record, and then it says I've received emails
Speaker 1: regarding quite a few people's experienced sudden and frequent rushes
Speaker 1: through their day. Please post for the record. And that
Speaker 1: stays pretty much the same. There's just this one little
Speaker 1: bit that changes over and over again. The first one
Speaker 1: just says determinism, question mark deep. The next one, if
Speaker 1: you had said that in my voice, you wouldn't have
Speaker 1: needed the question ark, because I always say things. The
Speaker 1: next one is tonnel dash ill dash lost dash change
Speaker 1: the picture with two, which is in brackets the change
Speaker 1: the picture part. Yeah, and then it says proof of
Speaker 1: what you're capable of reach belief one gets you there
Speaker 1: for proves no illusion you can still how can be um?
Speaker 1: How is any of this here? Don't ask yourself the question,
Speaker 1: dwell on it. There's one where it says yeah. This
Speaker 1: one on um November says Massi Ramoto, which is like
Speaker 1: all one word, but it's actually referring to mass Moto,
Speaker 1: who you probably know who this person is. I'm going
Speaker 1: to say the thing that this person is um famous for,
Speaker 1: and that is um water quantum physics. He if you
Speaker 1: saw what the belief do we know? He's the guy
Speaker 1: who's like really famous for like this kind of quack
Speaker 1: science of human consciousness can totally change the molecular structure
Speaker 1: of water. Man, our thoughts and emotion and emotions influence it,
Speaker 1: which is why you have to think of thoughts about
Speaker 1: yourself and the water in your body will be good.
Speaker 1: He doesn't talk like that, by the way. He's like
Speaker 1: a seventy year old Japanese man. He does not. I
Speaker 1: would love it. I do want to say that that
Speaker 1: movie was certainly full of quack science. So yeah, this
Speaker 1: is actually this website reminds me a lot of that
Speaker 1: movie a lot. When did that movie come out again?
Speaker 1: I don't remember? Okay, Yeah, so that that's a significant
Speaker 1: amount of time before this happened. But that doesn't mean
Speaker 1: that everybody saw it when they know. But what I
Speaker 1: meant was, you know how this happens. Somebody makes the
Speaker 1: crazy advent true stealing artifacts and fighting Nazi movie, and
Speaker 1: then suddenly there's seven knockoff versions of that movie very
Speaker 1: short succession. It's the same kind of phenomenon. I agree. UM,
Speaker 1: So let's go ahead and just skip the rest of everything,
Speaker 1: you guys, I'm sure we'll go look at the pds
Speaker 1: through them. Yeah. So we're gonna talk about just the
Speaker 1: one manual first, and then I guess we can talk
Speaker 1: about theories kind of stuff. Sure, there are five manuals altogether.
Speaker 1: I'm kind of using air quotes here around the manuals
Speaker 1: because most of them are just like two sentences. They simple, um.
Speaker 1: But the first one is apparently key to you know everything. UM.
Speaker 1: At the top of this page it says, no, it's
Speaker 1: not an illusion. Okay, well I never said it was. UM.
Speaker 1: Number one is an image of two guys. It's like
Speaker 1: a mirror image two silhouettes. UM. Standing one's read and
Speaker 1: one is blue. I don't know why because of the pills. Ye.
Speaker 1: And then the next image is like I keia people
Speaker 1: sitting in chairs. This is staring at each other. Yeah,
Speaker 1: eye level, and then contact there's a line drum and
Speaker 1: three is like some symbols of like how one should
Speaker 1: make eye contact, like don't look at this eye, look
Speaker 1: at this eye and look at these particular places in
Speaker 1: the eye. And then there's an image those are black
Speaker 1: and white. And then there's two images of eyes. One
Speaker 1: that's in hazel, that's a hazel eye looking kind of
Speaker 1: off like not centered, and one that's a blue eye
Speaker 1: that's looking directly at and in between these two images
Speaker 1: it clarifies it's not about color, it's the position. So
Speaker 1: it's not only for blue eyes, not only blue white people.
Speaker 1: Anybody can do it. I feel so much better now, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean too. Um. And then the fourth step is
Speaker 1: that you sit like a Kia people at eye level
Speaker 1: with a timer, a giant timer in between you, UM,
Speaker 1: with three minutes on the clock. I don't know, actually
Speaker 1: know if three minutes is like the I don't I
Speaker 1: don't think. Yeah, um, and you like look at blue
Speaker 1: eyes directly and then um. Step five, which is apparently
Speaker 1: the most important step but also the most disturbing photoshop
Speaker 1: if you look direct like you it's just like a
Speaker 1: rectangle of a woman's face cut out. That's just her
Speaker 1: eyes and it's not the weird like blur thing on it.
Speaker 1: And then like right below it somebody like it's somebody
Speaker 1: took like a black fuzz tool to it. I think
Speaker 1: it's meant to represent like focus only on the eye.
Speaker 1: It's like you make eye contact. Joe and I are
Speaker 1: just making eye contact right now, just staring like, don't
Speaker 1: focus on anything. Let everything else fuzz out. Are you
Speaker 1: letting it fuzz out? Are you looking at it? I
Speaker 1: know my eyes everything else start fuzzing out now, yeah,
Speaker 1: okay um. And then the sixth image is like ikea
Speaker 1: people sitting I and then it says one person over
Speaker 1: one person it says anticipate, and then over the other
Speaker 1: person that says pick a number one to ten. And
Speaker 1: then under it it says, once you get that, you'll
Speaker 1: realize more, move up in difficulty, see what others have
Speaker 1: It is there. So I think the purpose of this
Speaker 1: manual is to get people to telepathically talk to like
Speaker 1: synchronize consciousness. Maybe yeah, I was gonna say, there there
Speaker 1: is talk that this is meant to represent an exchange
Speaker 1: of consciousness. So under that there's a broken YouTube link
Speaker 1: which actually links to because everybody tries to steal copyrated
Speaker 1: content content and then finds your channel shutdown. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: it links to UH season two episode five of Through
Speaker 1: the worm Hole, which you guys remember Through the worm
Speaker 1: Through the Wormhole is um a TV show in which
Speaker 1: Morgan Freeman a k a. God explains the universe because
Speaker 1: he's tired of humans not understanding the awesomeness of his
Speaker 1: creation because we're dumb and you. This episode was called
Speaker 1: is There a Sixth Sense? And so it's like a
Speaker 1: little part of it, and then it says zero to
Speaker 1: which I think means watch until like. And then under
Speaker 1: it it says it must bold be observed, not told.
Speaker 1: Observation is everything. This isn't spiritual, it's not religious or beliefs.
Speaker 1: This is only part of the coming date. Nothing escapes
Speaker 1: a black hole, not even light. And then step seven,
Speaker 1: apparently underneath there says, don't accept what blinds you? Is
Speaker 1: it an illusion? Ask yourself? What is God? The grammar
Speaker 1: so bad, I'm sorry, Ask yourself what it really is?
Speaker 1: When you're there? If particles react to consciousness or an observation,
Speaker 1: and all the things are made of them, then so
Speaker 1: must everything be consciousness? If that holds true, what if
Speaker 1: you observe what you believe to be real? Does it
Speaker 1: become that? When did the man you will start working
Speaker 1: for you? This of all of the parts, sounds the
Speaker 1: most like what the bleep? Because basically that's what that
Speaker 1: whole movie is like. You can just think it into
Speaker 1: consciousness and then it exists. I could, yeah, me too,
Speaker 1: be a millionaire. I wouldn't be doing as we're getting podcast.
Speaker 1: So you know. The funny thing is that I just
Speaker 1: noticed on this page that I have seen on a
Speaker 1: lot of them, but I don't think we've mentioned, is
Speaker 1: that there is some odd application of font styling in
Speaker 1: other words, I mean bold and italics. Uh. In the
Speaker 1: beginning one of the early pages, there was something about
Speaker 1: going back to the trains. The word train was in italics,
Speaker 1: but the S was in regular Like. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of odd uses of that through this entire site. Now
Speaker 1: what that means I don't know, but I just I
Speaker 1: noticed it again and wanted to say something. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: would agree with that. Um, it's overall a weird website. UM,
Speaker 1: so I'm feeling solid in the amount of we've talked about.
Speaker 1: Do you either, you have something we want to bring
Speaker 1: up before we start talking about theories. Steve's got his
Speaker 1: black book out, so I suspect he might reference for reference.
Speaker 1: This is This is manual to the entirety of it.
Speaker 1: Let's take a look. Let take a look at it.
Speaker 1: This is it? Yeah, okay, here's manual. To look into
Speaker 1: it until they open again. Next line. Need a helping hand.
Speaker 1: It's not a pyramid. See yourself to that point and
Speaker 1: keep going. Eventually they'll reopen. This one takes time. We
Speaker 1: should just sit while we're waiting. Christine, No, no, no,
Speaker 1: I was you two can read all the manual. It
Speaker 1: doesn't take long to read these manuals, guys. So I'm fine. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is my kind of manual. Yeah yeah, okay, So
Speaker 1: you do you have something? I have some things that
Speaker 1: I want to point out. These are things that I
Speaker 1: just found rooting through the internet like a crazy person,
Speaker 1: because that apparently is what this one did to me.
Speaker 1: I can't wait to have my life back. So there,
Speaker 1: when we were in the beginning, there's project project pixels
Speaker 1: or pixel projects project pixels. Is that it? Okay? Because
Speaker 1: there's also a Pixel Project dot net website out there,
Speaker 1: which is a website. It's a weird flip of the words,
Speaker 1: and oddly, it's a website that is devoted to stopping
Speaker 1: violence against women. And there is also a The Human
Speaker 1: Project dot us because you remember that the Project pixels
Speaker 1: website said the Human Project. The Human Project dot us
Speaker 1: is a website that has a punch of stuff on
Speaker 1: it that is all about the unification and advancement of
Speaker 1: mankind or human kind, I should say, which is a
Speaker 1: really weird set of tie ins. I really felt like
Speaker 1: the Human Project dot us is much much newer and
Speaker 1: probably has no link, but it's still a strange set
Speaker 1: of links to to have found. Um, let's see the
Speaker 1: other things that I found here. Uh, that is something
Speaker 1: to go into theories. I do want to note that
Speaker 1: this was not the only date website for the month
Speaker 1: of October. It turns out somebody had been running October
Speaker 1: or oct one, two thousand eleven dot com and I
Speaker 1: found that through some forum posts somebody else was talking
Speaker 1: about weird date websites. Because I don't know if Devin
Speaker 1: you might remember this, there was an August eleven, two
Speaker 1: thousand eleven site that had been hot that summer. Does
Speaker 1: that sound familiar to you at all? It was weird,
Speaker 1: and when the date came, the person who was hosting
Speaker 1: the August site admitted that it was totally just a gag.
Speaker 1: But this one, the two thousand eleven dot com site,
Speaker 1: Everything for it re routes to another website no matter
Speaker 1: what date you pull, So somebody had a reroute on it,
Speaker 1: and it's I'm gonna spell this out because I don't
Speaker 1: know how this is pronounced. It is you M M
Speaker 1: O I S M dot com And what's there? Well,
Speaker 1: it's a totally an alien website. It is totally about UFOs. Uh.
Speaker 1: There is there's a symbol for uranus or is it yes,
Speaker 1: uranus all over uranus, whichever you like to say. I
Speaker 1: like to say uranus. But that's just because it's me.
Speaker 1: That's benefit jokes because urinus is not nearly as funny. Um.
Speaker 1: But there's but that's a it's a weird seven day
Speaker 1: distinction that is linked to this other site. And that
Speaker 1: is something that you two and I have talked about
Speaker 1: before we started this episode, is that I was doing
Speaker 1: the math or we did the math for October somehow
Speaker 1: in all of the searching something about this you moism
Speaker 1: dot com whatever, the alien Urinus website Uranus website is
Speaker 1: there's something where somebody had done the math and got
Speaker 1: the same impression that aliens were coming to Earth and
Speaker 1: they were on the at the asteroid belt and the trip,
Speaker 1: the journey from there to Earth would take three one days,
Speaker 1: which according to us sitting here doing the math earlier,
Speaker 1: if they started on the first of the year, would
Speaker 1: be October of that year. So it's just it's a
Speaker 1: weird thing that I don't know. Yeah, let's let's talk
Speaker 1: a little bit more about the obsession with um October
Speaker 1: when we talk about theories, and I'm holding back some stuff,
Speaker 1: so we probably just get into the theories and that's
Speaker 1: going to come in into the last theory. I'm sorry, listeners,
Speaker 1: I know you guys hate it when we do this stuff.
Speaker 1: But it wasn't intentional story. So how long were these
Speaker 1: changes going on on the side you oh, the updates
Speaker 1: to the pages, It was sometime into two thousand and
Speaker 1: twelve that they I mean they that's when because we
Speaker 1: were looking at that page where it had it went
Speaker 1: like Mossy, what was the Jefpanese, thank you. I didn't
Speaker 1: want to, Butcher's name already did that. There was that,
Speaker 1: there was, and then there was a version of it
Speaker 1: that had space eon or something like that. Like those
Speaker 1: changes happened periodically in but I think this the changes
Speaker 1: quit mid off the top of my head without going
Speaker 1: back through the document, So they were updating it for
Speaker 1: a decent amount of time. That's what I think too. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: so theories we're gonna talk about. UM. The first thing
Speaker 1: I'm gonna bring up is one that you will see
Speaker 1: on Reddit, and there's one video. Please don't watch this
Speaker 1: YouTube video. It was really painful to watch. UM. But
Speaker 1: it claims that a Reddit user UM named like Confederate
Speaker 1: America or something like that. Of course, UM said that
Speaker 1: he aid this for a class project and would everybody
Speaker 1: please stop calling him. Yeah, I saw that. I that, Well,
Speaker 1: that was actually gonna be dumb. Actually, that was gonna
Speaker 1: be One of my theories is that this is just
Speaker 1: some guy who was teaching himself HTML. It's possible, but
Speaker 1: it's a lot, like there's a lot of work that
Speaker 1: went into this, so there has to be something more
Speaker 1: to me than it. Just like I'm just gonna teach
Speaker 1: myself some h code like you don't you don't make
Speaker 1: a site that links new websites off of or new
Speaker 1: like new pages off of you know, twelve different clicks
Speaker 1: on the same image when you're when you're learning the code.
Speaker 1: It actually the hands on things, the way to do it,
Speaker 1: and it's you know, it's a certain amount of work,
Speaker 1: but it's kind of fun. It could be fun. Actually,
Speaker 1: I have to agree with Joe because like the whole
Speaker 1: thing of project pixels dot Com being the source for
Speaker 1: the very first page of this is somebody who doesn't
Speaker 1: know what they're doing and figuring it out, because I've
Speaker 1: done that with coding, and I think I agree with you. Okay,
Speaker 1: I don't think this theory is right, but I think
Speaker 1: that there is a lot of hands on learning and
Speaker 1: it is very possible that some community college kid was
Speaker 1: learning how to do this, because I mean this is
Speaker 1: when I was went to school and had a web class,
Speaker 1: people did this. They just they were like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: oh well, well, where's you? Oh well I I um
Speaker 1: so I stayed up till like four in the morning
Speaker 1: working on my projects and then I got this goofy
Speaker 1: idea and so I just changed it. Well, did you
Speaker 1: save a copy of it so we can show it
Speaker 1: to the coast? Oh? No, I didn't know you could
Speaker 1: do that. Like that kind of goofy stuff happened. I
Speaker 1: don't think it was a class project though. The reason
Speaker 1: I think the reason being is it started in early August.
Speaker 1: It would have started in September if it was a
Speaker 1: class project and maybe or maybe you can yeah or
Speaker 1: maybe and maybe continued the second term after January. And
Speaker 1: I really feel like the less college I went to
Speaker 1: I started in August. Yeah, yeah, but they don't start
Speaker 1: you on projects early August. Uh my way. I remember
Speaker 1: my web class we got thrown. The guy was like,
Speaker 1: the other way you're gonna learn is doing it. We're
Speaker 1: gonna do talk about this for twenty minutes. You're gonna
Speaker 1: go watch this tutorial and you're gonna make something and
Speaker 1: it's gonna suck. Okay. So in my in my web
Speaker 1: programming classes, they like they gave you a domain. You
Speaker 1: didn't go out, so like that would be weird to
Speaker 1: me that they were like, yeah, go buy your own domain,
Speaker 1: call whatever you want and create an entire labyrinth of
Speaker 1: website or webs I don't think they told him to
Speaker 1: do that far. I think somebody took it that far. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's fair, but I don't think it's a class either way. Um,
Speaker 1: so I think we can debunk, especially being that ready.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I don't think this reddy user thing is right,
Speaker 1: but I think this is somebody learning. Yeah, and you know,
Speaker 1: if if it was, if it was truly him, he
Speaker 1: would have had the number disconnected. He would have changed
Speaker 1: his number. Yeah, totally. Yeah. Well, I guess briefly just
Speaker 1: to mention that that website, that phone number, like whatever,
Speaker 1: it's not it didn't and I'm sure it didn't wrink anything.
Speaker 1: It was just a voicemail. It was just a recorded message.
Speaker 1: So I know we'll talk about that in a little. Um.
Speaker 1: Next up is that it could be an RG, which
Speaker 1: you may remember is an augmented reality game, which alternate
Speaker 1: or augmented reality game. I guess if this is an
Speaker 1: r G. I don't understand rges to be honest, Like, okay,
Speaker 1: maybe like a puzzle solving thing maybe, but like an
Speaker 1: it's uh, that's like that's the only way that I
Speaker 1: can that that set of noises is the only way
Speaker 1: I can react to this. Yeah, this is this is
Speaker 1: one of the otters in terms of and I will interact.
Speaker 1: I will grant that you know, the wiki and the
Speaker 1: orb change in colors does suggest an interactive quality of
Speaker 1: the game or of the site, But I don't think
Speaker 1: it's a game. I don't think that was the intention.
Speaker 1: It's a pretty slow living game. Well, you know, if
Speaker 1: it's a game, it makes me think of those Commodore
Speaker 1: sixty four games I used to remember where they were
Speaker 1: completely text based. Your character walks into the forest, what
Speaker 1: do you do? And you would type in throw rock
Speaker 1: at bird and then it would respond. There was one
Speaker 1: of those that was for Hitchhiker's Guide and um, you
Speaker 1: had to tell you you had to say open eyes.
Speaker 1: It was like the biggest chance. I was like thirteen
Speaker 1: trying to figure out how to play with my friend
Speaker 1: and it was like it wouldn't respond to anything until
Speaker 1: you said, like, okay, open your eyes and then it
Speaker 1: was like, oh, you open your eyes in your bedroom,
Speaker 1: what do you do now? And you had to be
Speaker 1: like sit up in bed. It was insane. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I don't think that's what this is at all.
Speaker 1: I don't think that that does bring back great memories.
Speaker 1: So because there was the original text game I think
Speaker 1: was the Adventure. Yeah, yeah, I'm sure, and that was
Speaker 1: that was awesome. I really I really got a lot
Speaker 1: of fun out of playing Adventure. By the way, do
Speaker 1: you know what I just saw they brought back for
Speaker 1: kids in printed format, Choose your Own Adventure? Do you
Speaker 1: remember those? They brought those back. I saw volume after
Speaker 1: volume of them the other day at a store, Like yes, okay.
Speaker 1: Next theory is that it's a cult of some kind.
Speaker 1: I don't. I guess I don't. I think the term
Speaker 1: cult implies something really sinister to me. Um. I also
Speaker 1: think that occult would imply that there's an attempt to
Speaker 1: like get people together into a community in real life.
Speaker 1: And Open didn't seem interested in revealing anything about themselves
Speaker 1: or getting people to you know, come together in real
Speaker 1: life or really do anything other than like interact with
Speaker 1: people with this like weird pseudo quantum physics science. Um. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'll wait. Yeah I don't know either. I mean I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't even know that he wrote that stuff. A
Speaker 1: lot of that stuff. There were some pages that were
Speaker 1: went on for a while. He might have just cut
Speaker 1: and pasted that. I feel like okay, yeah, you're at
Speaker 1: cult has a bad tone to it, But a lot
Speaker 1: of things that I've seen like this, where people they
Speaker 1: try to get everybody who thinks the same together, and
Speaker 1: then there's this insular quality because we're all talking to
Speaker 1: each other and we all think the same. And I
Speaker 1: feel like, rather than putting you know, this was the
Speaker 1: initial sales pitch, let's say this was the pamphlet. The
Speaker 1: website was the come check us out pamphlet. And I
Speaker 1: wonder how much of the actual lobbying to join the
Speaker 1: team happened via email, because open at eleven dot com
Speaker 1: was a valid email address. Open was responding to people,
Speaker 1: and though most of the stuff that I saw people
Speaker 1: wrote in was either I'm not no offense but lame
Speaker 1: or bogus, because I don't believe they actually said the
Speaker 1: things they said, but it seems like maybe that's the
Speaker 1: way that they felt like that was the best way
Speaker 1: to do the channel of communication, and maybe with the
Speaker 1: phone number and conjunction, it was you wrope open wrope
Speaker 1: back and said say the code word of angel key
Speaker 1: crown or I don't know, I'm making this up, then
Speaker 1: leave your phone number. I will call you back and
Speaker 1: we will discuss. Do I think that that's what it was?
Speaker 1: I highly doubted, But that's totally within the realm of possibility.
Speaker 1: It is. The Only problem I have with that is
Speaker 1: that if you had, if you had totally recruited a
Speaker 1: bunch of people into his cult, then by now at
Speaker 1: least a few people would have left the cults public. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you know what, I've only seen comments or email
Speaker 1: chains from a couple of people, and they were always
Speaker 1: the first email er too. And yet open must have
Speaker 1: has some decent conversations with people based on what's in
Speaker 1: the wiki, because the the end of the wiki has
Speaker 1: a bunch of content that you can tell comes from emails.
Speaker 1: And so I really I wonder if we don't hear
Speaker 1: from those people because they are like minded people who
Speaker 1: want who wanted to believe this kind of stuff, and
Speaker 1: therefore we're willing to fall in line. So for me,
Speaker 1: that falls under something else. I don't think that falls
Speaker 1: under cald No, I don't think it's called but right. So,
Speaker 1: and that's my next kind of fury, right, is that
Speaker 1: there's like something else going on here. I want to
Speaker 1: take this moment to address some things that we know
Speaker 1: that we haven't talked about yet, or at least that
Speaker 1: we think we know. One is, I'm pretty sure Open
Speaker 1: is from California, and this whole thing is based out
Speaker 1: of California. You will here starting California. Yeah, that was
Speaker 1: That's part of it. There's a lot of exploration of
Speaker 1: these numbers, these like giant numbers that we've been talking
Speaker 1: about of actually being UM geographic coordinates UM. And people
Speaker 1: have done some searches on those, and oftentimes they do
Speaker 1: end up in California. I couldn't give her. I couldn't
Speaker 1: get work. Yeah, you have to do a lot of
Speaker 1: Some people say you actually you end up in Yosemite.
Speaker 1: I heard that from William Yeah, but um. Other people say, um,
Speaker 1: and I've seen this too, you end up kind of
Speaker 1: in like the l A County area. And then there's
Speaker 1: also UM one certain little bit of text, it's a
Speaker 1: stream of consciousness post from OPEN. I think it's on records,
Speaker 1: maybe not. I can't remember where I saw this, but
Speaker 1: um Open talks a lot about strings of numbers being
Speaker 1: really prominent in their life and one of and they say,
Speaker 1: you know, one and one four eight one eight, and
Speaker 1: then like continues on and it always stood out to me, like,
Speaker 1: why would you say one plus one four eight one eight?
Speaker 1: What's eight one eight Eight's an area code in l
Speaker 1: A right outside of l A. So that's pretty significant.
Speaker 1: And then also you sent me somebody didn't I pear
Speaker 1: search and it returned at the time today can do it? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it returned. And you know area of kind of
Speaker 1: um Brea in California, which is like right next to
Speaker 1: wear the cut off for eight one eight area code
Speaker 1: is in Orange County. It's right now, It's like this
Speaker 1: is this, there's like this intersection of where like Orange County,
Speaker 1: eight one eight and Brea all kind of come together,
Speaker 1: not like exact, Yeah, but you could I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: with the march of error, you could be Well, it's
Speaker 1: interesting because the phone number, the area for the phone
Speaker 1: number Orange Texas, Orange County, Texas. Yeah, yeah, if you
Speaker 1: if you did a swap of area codes and called
Speaker 1: that number, I wonder what that would wonder? What would result?
Speaker 1: Have you tried it yet? No? I haven't, because yeah,
Speaker 1: so I mean it's interesting to me that bit um
Speaker 1: regarding the phone number as well. You will see this
Speaker 1: on almost every ride up that you see of this case.
Speaker 1: You will see people say people call the number a
Speaker 1: couple of times in a row, and the first two
Speaker 1: times people here, Um, it just picks up and you
Speaker 1: hear breathing and then a lot of beat, and sometimes
Speaker 1: you hear like like there's one where the guy heard
Speaker 1: something scraping, like something to be drug across the floor,
Speaker 1: which is actually just breathing. I've heard the recordings. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I could make that into that. But you will also
Speaker 1: see that at least one caller quote unquote called and
Speaker 1: heard something too horrible to report that was just screaming.
Speaker 1: On the third call, well, it was more than screaming.
Speaker 1: It was like the first part of it was screaming
Speaker 1: and then it was just horrible. You will see that
Speaker 1: repeated again and again and again. Well, I'm here to
Speaker 1: tell you that in talking to William who created this
Speaker 1: video that is often referred to with this case, that
Speaker 1: he has told us that he added that bit in
Speaker 1: as an a arg that was going on on his
Speaker 1: YouTube channel. That is an invalid piece of evidence for
Speaker 1: this case. He inserted it for fun, which and to
Speaker 1: his credit, I don't think that he realized when he
Speaker 1: made that video that that would be parrotive. So frequently
Speaker 1: that that would be used at it is. It really
Speaker 1: is so. And I don't think when he was making
Speaker 1: the video he was like, I know, I'll add this
Speaker 1: to the case. You know. I think he just right.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think he just thought to himself, like,
Speaker 1: this is a great place for my a arg thing
Speaker 1: to like fit into this case. And so there's no
Speaker 1: oh no, there's no instance in which somebody has called
Speaker 1: the phone number and gotten anything other than the exact
Speaker 1: same message, which makes everybody think it's just an outgoing voicemail.
Speaker 1: So what is the way? So I have actually before
Speaker 1: his video, I've seen some stuff about that that phone
Speaker 1: number and what happened. So what is it that you
Speaker 1: are saying happens when? And it rings for a couple
Speaker 1: of times and then it picks up and then it's
Speaker 1: just like silence or like faint noises. It kind of
Speaker 1: sounds like it's like in someone's pocket for like a
Speaker 1: couple of seconds, and then there's beep. Okay, Because that
Speaker 1: I had I had read from people. Now again we
Speaker 1: are at the mercy of the people who are posting
Speaker 1: this stuff for the truthfulness of it. But I have
Speaker 1: heard that it was a series of beeps. I've heard
Speaker 1: that it was numbers, and I've also heard that people
Speaker 1: who left a message got a reply. Okay, I can't
Speaker 1: discount the people who got left a message got to reply,
Speaker 1: but I can say that, like without fail, when you
Speaker 1: see somebody post on a forum, like I just called
Speaker 1: it and I heard this, somebody will post right after
Speaker 1: that day, you are a liar. I just called it
Speaker 1: and got the same thing. And see, that's where it's
Speaker 1: coming from, is that I had the somebody said I
Speaker 1: got this weird. I was gonna say a different word, crap,
Speaker 1: and the person said, you're a liar. It was a
Speaker 1: series of beeps. And That's where I'm getting interesting. No,
Speaker 1: I mean it's possible. I mean it could have changed.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't have a stake in that,
Speaker 1: but I don't think anything weird is happening with that opening.
Speaker 1: But definitely that whole like screaming to disturbing things, that's
Speaker 1: not real, you know. I actually think that there should
Speaker 1: be a little project here and that lots of us
Speaker 1: need to call this number and that when it beabs,
Speaker 1: leave a message, leave a nice long message, and then
Speaker 1: if we all call, we all call and and fill
Speaker 1: up their mailbox, the voicemail box. Then the whole thing
Speaker 1: stops working. They got to answer you delete voicemails or
Speaker 1: something like that. So we can start that when you
Speaker 1: guys start contacting us, Let's like, let's arrange a time
Speaker 1: where we all start calling, because I'm just curious to
Speaker 1: see if if if it's probably just somebody's cell phone,
Speaker 1: then we can if we can fuilt their voicemail box,
Speaker 1: we should try it. Yeah, so I guess you know,
Speaker 1: for me, when it all comes down to it, I
Speaker 1: think that October eleven is really just based on I
Speaker 1: think it's just one person who's running it. When you
Speaker 1: when you google October eleven, you find out that apparently,
Speaker 1: and this is like a well documented thing, it is
Speaker 1: the um end of an era and the dawn of
Speaker 1: the ninth Unity Wave of consciousness UM, which is some
Speaker 1: like new age spiritually like again that pseudo quantum physics
Speaker 1: sort of situation where apparently like the the end of
Speaker 1: one era and we're going we're taking the step up
Speaker 1: on the pyramid to the highest consciousness. Is this from
Speaker 1: the Quickening video? Do you remember? Did you? Guys? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not though, Yeah, no, no, it's I mean so,
Speaker 1: and this is like a thing that's a lot of
Speaker 1: people believe in, whether it's true or not. It's based
Speaker 1: in the mind calendar, it's based in a lot of
Speaker 1: like this weird you know, consciousness is reality science, um,
Speaker 1: but I think, you know, for me, based on like
Speaker 1: a lot of the spelling and grammar and deep I'm
Speaker 1: like doing jazz fingers over here, like deep quality of
Speaker 1: a lot of these posts, I really think, yeah, well,
Speaker 1: I mean there are the attempts at being like really
Speaker 1: deep and profound, Like I recognize this a lot as
Speaker 1: like something that I would have as a teenager or
Speaker 1: like or early twenties person been like this is so deep,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, nobody's that were discovered Like if you
Speaker 1: just look in the eyes you will know. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, that's the sort of thing that it reads
Speaker 1: to me. And I definitely went through that phase. I
Speaker 1: think a lot of us go thro those phases. And
Speaker 1: I think, to me, it's just like some kid who
Speaker 1: like just saw what the bleep and like just discovered
Speaker 1: this whole like consciousness quantum thing and like googled. Yeah,
Speaker 1: or it could have been it could have been somebody
Speaker 1: who was kind of a cynic and I just decided
Speaker 1: to put up a bunch of new age crap and
Speaker 1: see how many you know, how many people, how many
Speaker 1: people contacted and just have a little fun with them,
Speaker 1: and could have been that too. Yeah. So I guess
Speaker 1: for me, that's like where I land. And I don't
Speaker 1: know if you guys have anything else to add to that,
Speaker 1: not really, I just I just think it was somebody
Speaker 1: who was just, you know, just kind of punking everybody.
Speaker 1: I'll say that you had mentioned just recently, you're just
Speaker 1: less minute or two the whole Mayan calendar thing, which
Speaker 1: was the year that the calendar was ending, and we
Speaker 1: were all going to go splat in the cosmos because
Speaker 1: we were gonna get wiped out for from something. It
Speaker 1: was actually December. We're in there. But and by the way,
Speaker 1: Mayan big fail. Yeah, but there was there's there was
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of stuff on the internet about how, well,
Speaker 1: while this is going to happen according to Mayan Calendar,
Speaker 1: it could be that that is actually not right and
Speaker 1: it's a year ahead of time. In October of two
Speaker 1: thousand eleven is referenced in a boatload of places as
Speaker 1: being the actual date of something happening. That's the same
Speaker 1: thing that I'm talking about. It's the end of one
Speaker 1: era at the beginning of this new and it's the
Speaker 1: the Awakening is what they call it. There was there's
Speaker 1: a video it's the it's titled The Quickening or the Awakening.
Speaker 1: It's a video video and it's like an hour and
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes and I watched about four minutes and then
Speaker 1: I couldn't take it anymore. And I read the description
Speaker 1: and then I couldn't take that, and I moved away.
Speaker 1: But there's all this like I'm not I'm in I'm
Speaker 1: in agreement with you. If there's this, And I don't
Speaker 1: know that it's necessarily a kid, but somebody who's like
Speaker 1: suddenly come to this. There's this higher consciousness, the spiritualism.
Speaker 1: Um I'm trying to think of. There was a set
Speaker 1: of books that came out in this I want to say,
Speaker 1: in the late sixties early seventies, and they had these
Speaker 1: weird psychedelic who did the melting clock and had the
Speaker 1: giant mustache. They had these weird Dolly esque covers that
Speaker 1: had moss on them and it's and I tried to
Speaker 1: read something it's the same like New age spiritual stuff.
Speaker 1: So I really I that's that's the only thing that
Speaker 1: I can describe from it. The only other thing that
Speaker 1: I came across once in the text is that I
Speaker 1: think that Open actually the name of the person who
Speaker 1: is open is Red. Yeah. I mentioned that to me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And that is because one time in the early pages
Speaker 1: there is text written on a page and carriage return
Speaker 1: after carriage return, and then it is dash read as
Speaker 1: in signed this sentence from Red. Well, and you can
Speaker 1: see that as well in that one little bit of
Speaker 1: hidden text that we saw in the code where it's
Speaker 1: like consciousness is Red, um, which is I mean interesting
Speaker 1: and Red would be more of a nickname but for sure,
Speaker 1: but more than Open. Yeah yeah um yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: I guess this isn't to say, like, I think collective
Speaker 1: consciousness is like a really interesting idea overall, um, and
Speaker 1: I do hope to sometime tackle it. I've been talking
Speaker 1: about this like literally since we started the show. It's
Speaker 1: a really big topic. But I don't think that this
Speaker 1: is like you don't you don't just like sit and
Speaker 1: stare at somebody's eyes and like suddenly you can understand.
Speaker 1: There was a poll. This was an interesting one right.
Speaker 1: There was a poll on oh that's right, one through ten,
Speaker 1: one through ten, and it was like pick your number,
Speaker 1: and it was like n of the people said seven,
Speaker 1: which the guest doesn't surprise me a whole lot, because
Speaker 1: when somebody says, like pick a number between one and ten,
Speaker 1: like pretty often, I'm like, yeah, seven, you're gonna know
Speaker 1: what you're gonna do is you're gonna go to the
Speaker 1: center and then you're gonna adjust and then you're gonna
Speaker 1: adjust one together, right, And that's a that's a known
Speaker 1: thing for in the medical practice because they always say
Speaker 1: name your pain on a scale of one through ten,
Speaker 1: and always I always have nothing's wrong, you know, you
Speaker 1: do a low number and if it's high, but you
Speaker 1: don't want to sound like you're you're you know, you're
Speaker 1: seeking pain meds are it's the seven. It was a
Speaker 1: pretty high seven and the yeah, so I guess, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't I guess I don't know where I stand
Speaker 1: on this. I think I'll be really interested to see, like,
Speaker 1: hopefully people will engage with us on this and like
Speaker 1: really go out and look at the stuff, and it
Speaker 1: might it might also be the creator of the website
Speaker 1: will contact us in any great story. If you would say, hey,
Speaker 1: take down this stuff, you totally come on. Guys. And
Speaker 1: by the way, speaking to myan calendar in twelve, don't
Speaker 1: see the movie. Don't do it. Don't see the John
Speaker 1: Cusack movie. That's what I was talking that we've we
Speaker 1: jumped a limo over a cap in years. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: I like they had this underwater fight, you know, in
Speaker 1: in the bowels of one of these great arcs that
Speaker 1: they built, you know, and he is literally like underwater
Speaker 1: fighting and struggling and getting swept back and forth for
Speaker 1: like five minutes and doesn't drown. He's coming, he practiced,
Speaker 1: he swims along. Yeah. Anyway, it's a stupid movie. That's
Speaker 1: not up said about that. But so um, like I said, UM,
Speaker 1: the PDF that we created as well. Some of our
Speaker 1: links UM for research will be on our website. That
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Speaker 1: We have some social media. You can find us on Facebook.
Speaker 1: There's a group and a page UM. The group would
Speaker 1: be where you would like start a discussion about this,
Speaker 1: do it on the page, but it's it's it's harder
Speaker 1: to have a discussion on the page. It's almost impossible
Speaker 1: because nobody sees it. Do it in the group. But
Speaker 1: also like see if somebody has already done that, yes, please,
Speaker 1: because it's gonna be hard to like have this conversation
Speaker 1: in twelve different places at one. Um, there's the Twitter.
Speaker 1: We should probably maybe one of us should go in
Speaker 1: on that day and start the thread and then everybody
Speaker 1: can just look for the one that we look for
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Speaker 1: don't start a conversation their place because UM, I won't
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Speaker 1: which I think is like my ideal place to have
Speaker 1: this conversation, and that is thinking sideways. That would be
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Speaker 1: UM okay, all that having been said, UM, this ended
Speaker 1: up being really long, So I hope you were interested
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Speaker 1: guys all have a really good Halloween. Yeah. Remember the
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