WEBVTT - The Winning Numbers of the Beast

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<v Speaker 1>Ridiculous Crime. It's a production of I Heart Radio. Oh hey,

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<v Speaker 1>Elizabeth Dotton, what are you doing here? I was hanging out.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you happen to know anything that's ridiculous? Do you

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<v Speaker 1>know what's ridiculous? I do? Would you let me know? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I can let you know that there. We don't have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of novelty songs lately. That's ridiculous. We like

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<v Speaker 1>in the eighties and then into the nineties, we'd have

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<v Speaker 1>like top like top forty novelty hits, you know, like, um,

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<v Speaker 1>what about like the Bahama Men, And like, uh, well

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<v Speaker 1>it's not now how many it was like fifty years ago? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that was the two thousands. But yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>get to your point. I'm trying to overestimate because I'll

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<v Speaker 1>tell people it's ten years ago in the nineties and

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't so well, I'm I'm airing on the side

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<v Speaker 1>of caution when I say fifty years So you're telling

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<v Speaker 1>me that post Malone is not novelty songs. I'm kidding,

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<v Speaker 1>Like no, but like you know, Disco Duck and that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of stuff. Duck, Yeah, all the Duck songs, all

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<v Speaker 1>the two thousand's next like or just one hit wonder

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<v Speaker 1>catchy kind of I don't know what we're talking, like

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<v Speaker 1>the ninety nine balloons. Sure, no more novelty song actual

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<v Speaker 1>novel yea, so like rock me on a des By Falco. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>And here's the thing though, I don't listen to current

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<v Speaker 1>popular music, so maybe there are a ton of them. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say, maybe you should be over there

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<v Speaker 1>on TikTok checking out the novelty songs. Maybe you's ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't go on TikTok. There we go, so ridiculous. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I got a story for you. It is kind of ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd love to hear it in the mood always. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>how about a story of a man who was famous

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<v Speaker 1>for hosting a TV game show called Bowling for Dollars

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<v Speaker 1>and then the same man he went on to be,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, be the guy, the mastermind if you will,

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<v Speaker 1>to rig a state lottery. Yeah, it's called the Triple

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<v Speaker 1>six Fix. And this is a story. It's about as

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<v Speaker 1>Pennsylvania as it comes. Nice. This is Ridiculous Crime, a

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<v Speaker 1>podcast about absurd and outrageous capers, heist and cons. It's

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<v Speaker 1>always murder free and ridiculous. Elizabeth What do you know

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<v Speaker 1>about Pennsylvania? Nothing? Nothing, zero. You're in. You're in. Luck.

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<v Speaker 1>I happen to have a few fun facts for you,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't it. William penn is the founder, correct, and he

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<v Speaker 1>likes the woods. That's Sylvania. Yes, we'll get into that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the extent of what you know. Okay, Well, Pennsylvania

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<v Speaker 1>is the fifth most populous state, although the people there

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<v Speaker 1>will tell you it's actually the fifth most populous commonwealth. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's known these days as a decider presidential elections. It's

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<v Speaker 1>also home to the Philadelphia Eagles and their battery tossing fans.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's home to the Steelers, the Flyers, the Penguins,

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<v Speaker 1>the Harrisburg Senators. Isn't gritty gritty? That's gritty Philadelphia Flyers.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh and the Four Seasons Total Lands one of my

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<v Speaker 1>all time favorite things ever. Very good. The Hersy Amusement

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<v Speaker 1>Park and factory tour. You can see how chocolate gets made,

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<v Speaker 1>now beyond sports chocolate. That kind of makes Europeans gag.

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<v Speaker 1>We have what else we need to know about Pennsylvania crime. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you already got into the name part. His name for

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<v Speaker 1>William penn Sylvania means Penn's Woods. Do you know the

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<v Speaker 1>story of how it got that name. It wasn't him.

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<v Speaker 1>He did not name it after himself. Someone else named it.

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<v Speaker 1>Penns Woods, right, that's somebody else was King Charles, the

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<v Speaker 1>second King Charls the second of it was the king

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<v Speaker 1>of Scotland and the King of England after Oliver Cromwell died.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a whole deal we want to get into that.

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<v Speaker 1>The point is in one King Charles, he went over

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<v Speaker 1>to William Penn's daddy and he's like, hey, man, I

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<v Speaker 1>know I owe you a bunch of money to help

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<v Speaker 1>me win back my kingdom. So I owe you some duckets.

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<v Speaker 1>How about this, I'll give you some land in the

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<v Speaker 1>America's And Pops is like, give it to my boy,

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<v Speaker 1>all right. So he's like cool, gives it to his son.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, hey, William Penn, look send the money. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a little light on it. I'm gonna give you land

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<v Speaker 1>in the America's And uh, how about that? And he's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's very nice of you, your majesty, thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, yeah, man, you'll love it. The place has

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<v Speaker 1>got a ton of trees. I think we should advertise that.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's call it William Penn's tree Land now William

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<v Speaker 1>Penn's Woods. He's like, yeah, yeah, I like that. There

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<v Speaker 1>it's done. Well. It's like no, no, no no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>don't name it after me. I'm a Quaker, so we

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<v Speaker 1>can't have that. Let's name it New Whales. How about

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<v Speaker 1>that New Whales's kind of got a whole new vibe

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<v Speaker 1>to it, and you know, it's the America's everything's new there.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's like, no, I don't like that. I already

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<v Speaker 1>got my guys working on it. They're using a good vellum.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's just go with williams Pen's Woods. And he's like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I bro, come on, your majesty. Could we just name

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<v Speaker 1>it something other than that? How about okay, pensil Okay Sylvania,

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<v Speaker 1>Like Elizabeth said, that's a good one. And he's like Kings, like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I told you got the charter going.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, okay, I'll split it with you. Pensnsylvania my Sylvania,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's like I love it, and eventually got shortened

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<v Speaker 1>to Pennsylvania. Now. I spent a lot of time Pennsylvania

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<v Speaker 1>as a kid. I like Pennsylvania a bunch, just like

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<v Speaker 1>on your own yourself. I took my bindle hobo hopped

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<v Speaker 1>onto like a train going east, and I didn't stop

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<v Speaker 1>until we ran out of continent. And then I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>back up a state, Take me to Pennsylvania. No, I

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<v Speaker 1>have a cousin. I haven't. I have a whole family.

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<v Speaker 1>But they have a whole family lives in a camp Hill, Pennsylvania,

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<v Speaker 1>which is just near Harrisburg, which is the capital of Pennsylvania.

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<v Speaker 1>So I would be there hanging out around the same

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<v Speaker 1>time that the star of today's story was just getting

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<v Speaker 1>out of prison where he'd been spending his time for

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<v Speaker 1>fixing the state lottery. And now I'd like to introduce

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<v Speaker 1>you to the former host of Bowling for Dollars and

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<v Speaker 1>the hero of our day, Nick Perry. Nick Perry, that's

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<v Speaker 1>not his government name. Government name was Nicholas Perry Katson Faunas.

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<v Speaker 1>He was Greek. Yeah, yeah, heeded. The dude was a

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<v Speaker 1>World War Two veteran navy man, tough guy, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like actual, you know, Assault of the Earth gets back

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<v Speaker 1>from the war and he's like, what am I gonna do?

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<v Speaker 1>It's a new country. You know, I'm gonna get involved

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<v Speaker 1>in this radio I think I got a good voice

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<v Speaker 1>for radio, gets involved. Then there's a new medium that

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<v Speaker 1>pops up called television. He's like, hey, I'm gonna bounce

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<v Speaker 1>over to that. So he starts working at the television

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<v Speaker 1>station from Pittsburgh, gets a job and he's hosting a

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<v Speaker 1>live televised Polka party. Yeah. First television station of Pittsburgh's like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, we need live polka? So this is about,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, nineteen fifty Okay. In night he gets hired

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<v Speaker 1>to become this new thing that's been invented called a

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<v Speaker 1>TV announcer. He's like, yeah, I'm gonna be this guy

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<v Speaker 1>I announced And they're like, okay, that's cool. What are

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<v Speaker 1>you and that stuff on TV? Talking about it? So

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<v Speaker 1>I guess his job at Pittsburgh station w T A E.

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<v Speaker 1>Now w T A E. This is where he becomes

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<v Speaker 1>what you might call Pittsburgh famous. This is where he

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<v Speaker 1>gets his shows. The two most popular shows in Pittsburgh

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<v Speaker 1>television at the time, Bowling for Dollars and Championship Bowling.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a bowling guy. Oh big, Now can you guess

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<v Speaker 1>what Bowling for Dollars was? Like? I think I think

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<v Speaker 1>they may have had a version out here. I believe

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<v Speaker 1>I remember when I was a little kid. One it's

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<v Speaker 1>stayed a popular idea. Yeah in the so I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I just remember the name of it. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't remember the show itself. Imagine family feud with no

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<v Speaker 1>questions and instead bowling balls. So they're just like your

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<v Speaker 1>families competing a bowling man. So it's just like semi

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<v Speaker 1>pro bowling. It's like amateurs. But then they also have,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, they have the whole fani le vibe,

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<v Speaker 1>like come on, mom, pick up that seven tent split

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<v Speaker 1>all right, exactly, and it's just visiting. Well, is it's corny.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll admit it's totally corny, and it's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>fun to watch. We'll we'll put up a clip on

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram so you can see what this looks like. It

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<v Speaker 1>is worth it just for the fashion a loan because

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<v Speaker 1>the clips were gonna put up. Or from the seventies,

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<v Speaker 1>which is love It, Love It great oranges greens you

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<v Speaker 1>haven't seen since then. So now you can imagine Pittsburgh

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<v Speaker 1>in the nineteen seventies. You this guy Nick Perry, He's

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<v Speaker 1>been a fixture in the Pittsburgh scene for a while,

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<v Speaker 1>and we get into the seventies and Pittsburgh's cooking along

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<v Speaker 1>even though everything's not really going well for the city

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of the steel industry is shutting down, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's a hard time for this, you know, industrial city,

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<v Speaker 1>this blue collar city. Nick Perry is there for the people.

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<v Speaker 1>He keeps them Pittsburgh proud, got it right now, Just

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<v Speaker 1>give you a sense of this. When he would go

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<v Speaker 1>on to his show, he loved to like play up

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<v Speaker 1>as being a TV announcer. He made sure that he

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<v Speaker 1>was brought on with the right flair. So he had

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<v Speaker 1>this this catchphrase you would always hear, and they say,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the man with all the dollars, the kingpin himself,

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Perry, right, just the cheesy right now. The newspeople

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<v Speaker 1>at the station, they still love this guy. He was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, not he's you know, not a hard journalist,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's not just like a hand that. They're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's totally one of the crew. And they love him

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<v Speaker 1>because he loves Pittsburgh and Pittsburgh loves him. The news

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<v Speaker 1>anchor Stu Emery at w t A, it's such a

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<v Speaker 1>good news anchor name do you remember here with the

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<v Speaker 1>traffic on the fives we'll be back with weather. His

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<v Speaker 1>real name is like Philibert FT News, so Philibert FT.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, and I quote Nick Perry was very Pittsburgh,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was very Pittsburgh and his questions and the

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<v Speaker 1>kind of people who were on the show. He was

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<v Speaker 1>down to earth and humorous and fun and his strong

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<v Speaker 1>personality came through and he was just about his dapper

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<v Speaker 1>and restaurant as I had seen. All right, Yeah, we

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<v Speaker 1>put a little more on Pepper on this also a

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<v Speaker 1>dapper dresser now w t A E News director Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Raveto he also had something to say about the what

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<v Speaker 1>we call the essence of Nick Perry. Joe Rovito said,

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<v Speaker 1>and I quote Nick became a local star with bowling

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<v Speaker 1>for dollars. That was his real breakthrough to the public.

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<v Speaker 1>He did a beautiful job with it. He was very knowledgeable,

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<v Speaker 1>a bowling enthusiast. He took it all very seriously. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a big deal of him, and he was a

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<v Speaker 1>very conscientious guy. As a reporter, anchor and host of

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<v Speaker 1>that program. Knows he calls him a reporter because he

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<v Speaker 1>talks to people. Yeah, reporter. Now during the seventies, as

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<v Speaker 1>I said, he becomes this beloved figure the city needs him.

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<v Speaker 1>He loves Pittsburgh bowling for dollars. To give you a

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<v Speaker 1>sense of this, it was regularly drawing more viewers during

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<v Speaker 1>its nighttime broadcast than the nighttime news at the time

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<v Speaker 1>on all of the other stations. Yeah, that's they're like,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't need to know what Gerald Ford said about inflation.

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<v Speaker 1>Just give us this of intense splits exact escap Nick

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<v Speaker 1>Perry also would turn to the people of Pittsburgh who

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<v Speaker 1>go out there, give them some love. They give him

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<v Speaker 1>some love that I kind of like to picture it

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<v Speaker 1>like you've seen Anchorman, the Will Ferrell movie. So swap

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<v Speaker 1>San Diego for Pittsburgh news anchor for bowling for dollars,

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<v Speaker 1>and you basically got the vibe. That's what it sounds like. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So in V one we get our big complication, the

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<v Speaker 1>Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. They decided to snatch business away from

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<v Speaker 1>all the mobbed up numbers runners. And they say, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, we can do this, We can do bad

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<v Speaker 1>all by ourselves. So they come up with the Pennsylvania

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<v Speaker 1>State Lottery. Now this is a thing at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of the numbers and for those who don't

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<v Speaker 1>know numbers, Elizabeth is a game where somebody would basically

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<v Speaker 1>draw random numbers and then everybody in the community they

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<v Speaker 1>would be guessing what those numbers would be right every day,

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<v Speaker 1>and so this was what the lottery replaced. It was

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<v Speaker 1>basically the local numbers game, and you had you go

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<v Speaker 1>to your numbers guy and tell the numbers you think

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna win. And the numbers were picked usually from

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<v Speaker 1>like either a racetrack, how the finishes of horses went,

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<v Speaker 1>or some something in the newspaper. It would be something

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<v Speaker 1>that nobody could control, so that way everybody could see

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<v Speaker 1>whatever is occurring. Well, the lottery needs this same type

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<v Speaker 1>of thing, so they decide, you know what, We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do a TV show and we'll broadcast the numbers. And

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<v Speaker 1>so they have this nightly broadcast that will show the

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<v Speaker 1>winning numbers as their drawings, so everybody can see it

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<v Speaker 1>at the exact same time and they know nothing hanky

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<v Speaker 1>going on, right, So who do you think they pick

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<v Speaker 1>to host this show? Did w T A S. Nick Perry? Ye?

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<v Speaker 1>So Nick Perry, he's selected as the announcer at this

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<v Speaker 1>farmer World War two veteran. This he's also, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>a like a Sunday School kind of guy. He he's

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<v Speaker 1>a choir leader at his church, like Salt of the Earth.

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<v Speaker 1>Good guy. Right, And three years later a grand jury

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<v Speaker 1>would determine that Pennsylvanias should bring charges against Nick Perry

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<v Speaker 1>for colluding to rig the state lottery. So had what

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<v Speaker 1>happened in this time? And now I'd also like to

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<v Speaker 1>point out that this dude had the rank to merity

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<v Speaker 1>to rig the lottery and to rob the lottery live

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<v Speaker 1>on the air. Oh right, allegedly all allegedly, but I

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<v Speaker 1>guess I would say allegedly, because so he did it.

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<v Speaker 1>He did it, the state says. So, now, after this

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<v Speaker 1>short break, we'll get into the triple six fix of

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<v Speaker 1>the Pennsylvania lottery. He doesn't do you like to play

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<v Speaker 1>the lottery? Z babies? Uh? You know I always talked

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<v Speaker 1>to people about how I've talked to everyone random I stopped.

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<v Speaker 1>People know I always wants to talk about the lottery.

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<v Speaker 1>I've said many many times. I have this plan if

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<v Speaker 1>I won the lottery, like how I would divvy up

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<v Speaker 1>the money. And I don't want it to get into

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<v Speaker 1>it now proprietary information, but I'd be really good at

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<v Speaker 1>winning the lottery if I ever bought a ticket, thoughts

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<v Speaker 1>you just said about to ask you have these plans,

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<v Speaker 1>but do you play? No, you can't win if you

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<v Speaker 1>don't play. That's that the ads tell me, yeah, right now.

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<v Speaker 1>And then they'll say like warning, you know, if you

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<v Speaker 1>have a gambling problem, don't do this. Do you have

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<v Speaker 1>a gambling problem? Is that way? You don't do it? No?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Okay, Well for you, those are the

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<v Speaker 1>people who don't know about lotteries. They have various ones.

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<v Speaker 1>There's the scratch off kids, right, and then there's like

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<v Speaker 1>the the weekly draws, like the Mega millions where you

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<v Speaker 1>pick six numbers, and then there are smaller lotteries. They

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<v Speaker 1>are more based on what I was talking earlier about

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<v Speaker 1>the numbers game, where they have what's called the daily

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<v Speaker 1>Number or the daily draw. Right. So the daily draw,

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<v Speaker 1>a person goes in Pennsylvania, at least they go and

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<v Speaker 1>they buy a ticket, and they can spend between fifty

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<v Speaker 1>cents and five dollars on this ticket, and then they

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<v Speaker 1>can pick a certain amount of numbers based on how

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<v Speaker 1>much they spend, and they get to pick three numbers,

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<v Speaker 1>so the numbers between zero and nine and the order

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<v Speaker 1>of the numbers matters. So if you put three, one,

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<v Speaker 1>four and the numbers are one four three that are drawn,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't win. It's got to be exactly the way.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's there's two forms. It's the numbers and the order.

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<v Speaker 1>Right at one minute before seven pm every night, Nick

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<v Speaker 1>Perry and a local senior citizen go onto the w

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<v Speaker 1>t a E set and they appear on screen and

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<v Speaker 1>the senior citizen gets to select at random the numbers.

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<v Speaker 1>And keep in mind the senior also gets picked at

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<v Speaker 1>random from all of the area senior citizen's homes. They

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<v Speaker 1>don't go and pick the most like charismatic, They just

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<v Speaker 1>pick citizens at random and they put them on TV

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<v Speaker 1>Summer Winners Summer completely. You should look up on YouTube

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<v Speaker 1>w t A E. Daily. Yesterday, I'll put up one

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<v Speaker 1>clip of the moment when the rigging occurred, and you

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<v Speaker 1>can see the how it goes. How it so this

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<v Speaker 1>randomly selected senior citizen who gets to go up there

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<v Speaker 1>and randomly select the balls. They're supposed to stand there

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<v Speaker 1>as the balls are and if you've seen this, they'll

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<v Speaker 1>be in like a clear like bubble and they'll be

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<v Speaker 1>bouncing around. And so for this one, each number has

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<v Speaker 1>its own bubble. So there's zero, three, nine balls and

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<v Speaker 1>each one they're all jumbling around and all of a

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<v Speaker 1>sudden once shoots up to the top. And the senior

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<v Speaker 1>citizen is in charge of turning it around to the

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<v Speaker 1>camera can see it, which is not the job I'd

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<v Speaker 1>give them, but you know, it works out for some

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<v Speaker 1>great fun. And when you watch now, if you have

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<v Speaker 1>all three winning numbers and you get them in the

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<v Speaker 1>order they were selected, you could win five hundred dollars

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<v Speaker 1>for every dollar you bet. So the most you can

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<v Speaker 1>win is two dollars from two thousand five day. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>quickly redo my math there. Yeah, you load up your

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<v Speaker 1>tickets all right now. If you don't, you dots you

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<v Speaker 1>get the two anyway. So lottery officials in the TV station,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody's taking these daily drawings very seriously. There's millions of

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<v Speaker 1>dollars riding on it, right. So the machines they get

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<v Speaker 1>locked up after each drawing. They have like a whole

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<v Speaker 1>special space. They're locked up in the space that has

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<v Speaker 1>two keys required to open the lock, just like a

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<v Speaker 1>nuclear submarine watching nukes. The Pennsylvania Lottery official they had

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<v Speaker 1>a turn a key. The w C A E. People

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<v Speaker 1>turn a key. And also, by the way, the official

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<v Speaker 1>would regularly, the state official lottery official would regularly visit

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<v Speaker 1>w t A, and they would check the machines, check

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<v Speaker 1>the balls, and make sure everything was up to code.

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<v Speaker 1>I bringing up up to stuff. They take the locks.

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<v Speaker 1>So they didn't know when these periodic inspections would be.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't know when the ball checkers are coming exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody knows when someone's gonna show up going. I'm here

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<v Speaker 1>to check your balls, totally totally random the States balls. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, since you were focus on the balls,

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<v Speaker 1>the State's balls, they were measured in wide and determined

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<v Speaker 1>always to be exactly. Can you guess how much would

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<v Speaker 1>it be a pink pong ball? Ways, no, good guess?

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<v Speaker 1>One point seven five milligrams. Now, for comparison sake, a

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<v Speaker 1>dollar bill weighs about a gram, So it would take

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<v Speaker 1>about five hundred and seventy lottery balls to weigh them

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<v Speaker 1>same amount as one dollar bill. That's how light these

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<v Speaker 1>things are, five hundred and seventy of them anyway, so

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<v Speaker 1>they made sure that they all were exactly the same weight.

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<v Speaker 1>Close good guess? Good guess? Well, I can tell you

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<v Speaker 1>about it now it's not gonna be easy to rig

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of getting ahead of it's fun. Don't mind

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<v Speaker 1>your getting ahead yourself. The science is there to ponder.

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<v Speaker 1>It is right there before us, which is how are

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<v Speaker 1>you going to get these balls? And you've got a

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<v Speaker 1>senior citizen working as like your helper as your stage assistant.

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<v Speaker 1>Can't be something that they're gonna mess up. So what

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<v Speaker 1>do you do to rig this? Right now? Nick Perry,

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, okay, I got an idea for big pay day.

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<v Speaker 1>We rigged the lottery. Now he's facing the same question

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<v Speaker 1>you're asking. He's like, but how do I do it?

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, okay, and you know what I need? First?

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<v Speaker 1>A money man. So he's like, okay, I'm gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>two for the price of one. He happens to have

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<v Speaker 1>these two childhood friends. They're called the Moragos Brothers. The

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<v Speaker 1>Morogos Brothers are a pair of like basically Greek small

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<v Speaker 1>time hoodlums, and they're Peter and Jack Moragos. They run

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<v Speaker 1>a cigarette vending machine business with Nick Perry. So they

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<v Speaker 1>take Nick Perry's legitimate money and they run it through

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<v Speaker 1>this vending machine business and they, you know, they get

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<v Speaker 1>a little business juice. Right. So he comes and he's like, hey, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>I got a new business venture. They're like, tell us

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<v Speaker 1>all about it, Nick, and like how they've gone. How

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<v Speaker 1>Nick has gone from like hey, everybody do He's got

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<v Speaker 1>two faces. So this Nick Perry, he goes, okay, you guys,

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<v Speaker 1>you're down, and they're like, we do business. We trust

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<v Speaker 1>you. You You say it's a good idea, We're gonna do it.

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<v Speaker 1>We're in. So he's like, okay, I got my I

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<v Speaker 1>got my money. Man. So then he goes, okay, now

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<v Speaker 1>what else do I need? I need an inside guy.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's like, okay, this is gonna get difficult, this

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<v Speaker 1>is risky. This is where I can all. I can

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<v Speaker 1>blow it all right here, so I gotta be smart

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<v Speaker 1>about this. It's like, okay, I know who I need.

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<v Speaker 1>He goes and sidles up to fifty two year old

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<v Speaker 1>Pennsylvania Lottery official Edward Level, like, hey, man, looking good

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<v Speaker 1>in them chinos today? You ever thought about some bell bottoms?

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<v Speaker 1>With those? I can get you in a green number.

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<v Speaker 1>He's just sexually harassing him. Okay, you fill up the

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<v Speaker 1>bell bottomed boy, get you a turtleneck. Looking good anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>So this dude Edward Plevel. He's essentially the security guard

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<v Speaker 1>who's in charge of guaranteeing these machines have nothing going

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<v Speaker 1>wrong with them at the ball's way exactly one point

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<v Speaker 1>seven five milligrams. And so going to him is that's

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<v Speaker 1>the move right? Clevels like you wanta do what? Hey?

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<v Speaker 1>I like it? Plevels into it. He wants to get right.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's like, okay, now I got my money guy,

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<v Speaker 1>I got my inside guy. I need a fixer. I

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<v Speaker 1>need a tech specialist. So who can make this all happen?

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Perry turns to someone friend of the show close

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<v Speaker 1>to him. He's like, hey, the w t a e

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<v Speaker 1>art director. I was thinking this, Oh look at you,

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<v Speaker 1>criminal mastermind. So Joseph Back, the art director and renowned

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<v Speaker 1>for his hands painting, really good with hand painting, especially

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<v Speaker 1>the campagnted letters and so forth, and which is as

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<v Speaker 1>an art we've discussed. Perry sidles up to Joe Back

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<v Speaker 1>one day. He's a gay man, how you doing? I

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<v Speaker 1>really like that leather Jackie harassing everybody where? Did you

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<v Speaker 1>get them shooting? He's like, hey, man, what would you

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<v Speaker 1>say if I told you I could? You could make

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred thousand dollars. Joe back looks him up and

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<v Speaker 1>down in the most Pennsylvanu way possible. He listening me, says,

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<v Speaker 1>who do I have to kill? Oh? I think that

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<v Speaker 1>it was going to be an indecent proposal. I ain't

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<v Speaker 1>laying down for this one. But someone's gone out. So

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, all right, I can make a hundred the

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<v Speaker 1>easy way or the hard way with no wet work. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's into it. He's like, what do I gotta do?

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, I want you to swap some balls. He's like, swapa,

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<v Speaker 1>this is getting a little interesting. Nick, what kind of

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<v Speaker 1>balls are we talking here? And he's like, I'll come

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<v Speaker 1>back to the gutter yea, and show me those pants again.

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<v Speaker 1>Spin around. He drops one of the balls on purpose

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<v Speaker 1>and take it up a little smack on the tish.

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<v Speaker 1>So Nick Perry, he gives Joe Buck a scale and

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<v Speaker 1>he goes, Okay, I need you to go buy thirty

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<v Speaker 1>ping pong balls. I want you to weigh them. Just

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<v Speaker 1>go to any sporting good store, paint them to match

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<v Speaker 1>the official lottery balls. You gotta number the seven, the eight,

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<v Speaker 1>and nine to match exactly, and you won't be able

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<v Speaker 1>to take home an example, so you have to do

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<v Speaker 1>it for memory. And he's like, bro hand painted letter

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<v Speaker 1>is my jam I got this? So Joe back, He

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<v Speaker 1>takes the thirty ping pong balls, he takes the scale,

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<v Speaker 1>He goes home, and he gets to work. Now, of

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<v Speaker 1>course it's gonna acquire a little experimentation. He's like, how

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<v Speaker 1>am I gonna do this? So he tries, like, first, powder,

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<v Speaker 1>seems like, maybe I can put a powder coating on

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<v Speaker 1>it and I'll make the balls different the way, different amounts.

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<v Speaker 1>That doesn't work. He's like, how about an applicate. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>I can put like an applicat on there that like

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<v Speaker 1>the sticker is heavy. That doesn't work. He's like, I

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<v Speaker 1>got it white latex paint, right, basically house paint. He's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna his house paint. So he injects the ping

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<v Speaker 1>pong balls with latex paints and then paints the outsides

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<v Speaker 1>and so he can make the fake balls. They would

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<v Speaker 1>all still bounce and jumble around in the machine, but

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<v Speaker 1>they won't. Only one ball will be lighter than all

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<v Speaker 1>the other nine, Like, there's nine balls in there. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess ten balls in there. There nine and then he

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<v Speaker 1>has one ball that's not waited, so all the rest

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<v Speaker 1>they will bounce around and float because there he has them.

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<v Speaker 1>He's been experimenting make sure that they will bounce around.

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<v Speaker 1>Only one has the lightness to make it to the

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<v Speaker 1>t C. I was thinking like he would maybe paint

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<v Speaker 1>the numbers on there with like he'd put some sort

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<v Speaker 1>of metal into the paint and make it heavier paint. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a really good idea. Yeah, they did not go

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<v Speaker 1>with metal paint. They just decided to. They didn't call me, no,

0:23:15.320 --> 0:23:18.240
<v Speaker 1>they really should have. Unfortunately you weren't born, so that

0:23:18.359 --> 0:23:20.840
<v Speaker 1>is part of the that was a little difficult. So anyway,

0:23:20.840 --> 0:23:23.359
<v Speaker 1>they decide add weight to nine of the ten balls

0:23:23.480 --> 0:23:26.400
<v Speaker 1>in each machine, and they pick weight. We can't do that.

0:23:26.600 --> 0:23:28.320
<v Speaker 1>We've got to let there be two balls because if

0:23:28.320 --> 0:23:31.200
<v Speaker 1>it's just one ball, it'll be very obvious. So we'll

0:23:31.200 --> 0:23:33.840
<v Speaker 1>mix up two balls. And then the odds are basically

0:23:33.840 --> 0:23:36.159
<v Speaker 1>only a few combinations. So they pick the four and

0:23:36.320 --> 0:23:39.560
<v Speaker 1>six balls to not doctor and they don't do the rest.

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<v Speaker 1>So now they're only eight combinations that could possibly be

0:23:42.320 --> 0:23:45.560
<v Speaker 1>the winning combinations for those like yourself and I with

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<v Speaker 1>the math skills. We have. The combinations end up being

0:23:48.760 --> 0:23:51.840
<v Speaker 1>triple four four four six four six four or four

0:23:51.960 --> 0:23:55.240
<v Speaker 1>six six, or they are six four four six four

0:23:55.359 --> 0:23:59.600
<v Speaker 1>six six six four and lastly the best combo triple

0:23:59.680 --> 0:24:03.879
<v Speaker 1>six six six six, the winning numbers of the beasts exactly.

0:24:04.240 --> 0:24:05.720
<v Speaker 1>So now all this left to do is purchase some

0:24:05.800 --> 0:24:08.560
<v Speaker 1>lottery tickets to it. So the Moragos brothers now come

0:24:08.600 --> 0:24:11.600
<v Speaker 1>back into the picture. So if they go and they

0:24:11.640 --> 0:24:14.680
<v Speaker 1>meet up Nick at the local St. Nick's Orthodox Church,

0:24:14.760 --> 0:24:17.120
<v Speaker 1>because that's for all the good criminal conspiracies go down.

0:24:17.640 --> 0:24:19.840
<v Speaker 1>He's like, meet me in a pu seven. So they

0:24:19.840 --> 0:24:21.880
<v Speaker 1>slide on behind the pew behind them, they start talking

0:24:21.880 --> 0:24:23.960
<v Speaker 1>about how to buy tickets. They exchange for like their

0:24:23.960 --> 0:24:27.880
<v Speaker 1>cigarette concession business profits and here's your recent payments. He's like, okay,

0:24:27.920 --> 0:24:30.760
<v Speaker 1>here's the plan. Keep the profits, go buy a bunch

0:24:30.760 --> 0:24:32.920
<v Speaker 1>of lottery tickets. They're like, oh really. He's like yeah,

0:24:32.960 --> 0:24:35.160
<v Speaker 1>but hey, we're gonna do this like real LaCOSA Nostra

0:24:35.280 --> 0:24:37.560
<v Speaker 1>mafia stuff. Spread it out. Be smart about to go

0:24:37.680 --> 0:24:39.919
<v Speaker 1>to one person and buy ten thousand dollars worth of tickets.

0:24:40.280 --> 0:24:42.520
<v Speaker 1>It's like, okay, okay, we're gonna go to Philly. He's like,

0:24:42.560 --> 0:24:43.879
<v Speaker 1>wait minute, you gonna go to Philly. Why did you

0:24:43.880 --> 0:24:45.919
<v Speaker 1>go to Philly. That's Nicky Scarfolk's place. Don't go to

0:24:45.960 --> 0:24:48.160
<v Speaker 1>Phillies Like, that's why they'll think it's the mob. They'll

0:24:48.160 --> 0:24:51.280
<v Speaker 1>put it on Nicky Scarfolks. Brilliant. He's like, actually that's

0:24:51.280 --> 0:24:54.560
<v Speaker 1>pretty good. Pittsburgh may come back to us. Go to Philly.

0:24:55.000 --> 0:24:56.320
<v Speaker 1>They're gonna go to Philly and buy up all the

0:24:56.320 --> 0:24:59.520
<v Speaker 1>tick sets now to maximize their score. The Morago's brothers

0:24:59.560 --> 0:25:03.480
<v Speaker 1>smart hoodlumps they are. They're like, okay, how about we

0:25:03.520 --> 0:25:06.679
<v Speaker 1>take out a bank loan and really out here. So

0:25:06.720 --> 0:25:09.160
<v Speaker 1>they take out a twenty dollar bank loan. Don't tell

0:25:09.240 --> 0:25:10.959
<v Speaker 1>Nick Perry. They go and buy a bunch of more tickets.

0:25:11.080 --> 0:25:13.040
<v Speaker 1>Now they got this extra twenty grand and all the

0:25:13.040 --> 0:25:14.960
<v Speaker 1>money Nick Perry front of them. And they go and

0:25:15.000 --> 0:25:18.280
<v Speaker 1>they pile into their giant white Cadillac because nobody's gonna

0:25:18.280 --> 0:25:21.119
<v Speaker 1>remember that, and they tour around the Filly area and

0:25:21.119 --> 0:25:23.320
<v Speaker 1>they buy up all the lottery tickets that they can afford.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think they did like method acting or like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I just imagine that they get out of

0:25:29.080 --> 0:25:31.840
<v Speaker 1>the car and they go into the little convenience store

0:25:32.400 --> 0:25:35.880
<v Speaker 1>and their play their play acting, like oh, someone told

0:25:35.880 --> 0:25:37.760
<v Speaker 1>me I should play the lottery. I never do this.

0:25:37.960 --> 0:25:41.440
<v Speaker 1>Let me buy. I don't know how many should maybe two.

0:25:42.280 --> 0:25:45.080
<v Speaker 1>My grandpappy sent me down here to buy some lottery tickets.

0:25:45.119 --> 0:25:47.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't know anything about it, but his favorite numbers

0:25:47.160 --> 0:25:49.320
<v Speaker 1>are four and six. Could you help me figure them out?

0:25:49.480 --> 0:25:51.000
<v Speaker 1>And they just keep doing this, and then they have

0:25:51.080 --> 0:25:54.000
<v Speaker 1>to wear costumes and disguises from shop to shop. I

0:25:54.080 --> 0:25:56.479
<v Speaker 1>wish they did that. You're gonna be so disappointed with

0:25:56.520 --> 0:26:00.399
<v Speaker 1>what they actually did. Oh yeah, So they purchased fourteen

0:26:00.760 --> 0:26:04.080
<v Speaker 1>dollars in one dollar tickets and they're now looking at

0:26:04.080 --> 0:26:06.399
<v Speaker 1>basically about a four point two million dollar come up

0:26:06.440 --> 0:26:08.919
<v Speaker 1>if the tickets hit, and they will hit because it's fixed.

0:26:09.560 --> 0:26:13.040
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, exactly. So later on in that same day

0:26:13.119 --> 0:26:14.679
<v Speaker 1>there will be the daily draw because they have to

0:26:14.680 --> 0:26:16.760
<v Speaker 1>get the tickets for that same day. So they're all

0:26:16.800 --> 0:26:19.160
<v Speaker 1>trying to get this all done before the seven o'clock draw.

0:26:19.440 --> 0:26:22.879
<v Speaker 1>They get it all done, and that's when Nick Perry

0:26:22.920 --> 0:26:25.399
<v Speaker 1>steps onto the w t a E Set, ready to

0:26:25.440 --> 0:26:27.800
<v Speaker 1>do his part to rig the state lottery. Everyone else

0:26:27.800 --> 0:26:30.359
<v Speaker 1>has done their parts, it's time for Nick Perry. He

0:26:30.440 --> 0:26:34.080
<v Speaker 1>catches SIGHTE a lottery official, Ed Plevil lottery official gives

0:26:34.119 --> 0:26:38.440
<v Speaker 1>him the nod exactly a lot of the sting. He's like, okay,

0:26:38.480 --> 0:26:41.160
<v Speaker 1>gives them the nose swipe. They use the two keys.

0:26:41.200 --> 0:26:44.800
<v Speaker 1>They unlocked the lottery machine storage area. They am so nervous.

0:26:44.920 --> 0:26:47.200
<v Speaker 1>Right now, we o the machines up to the TV

0:26:47.320 --> 0:26:53.360
<v Speaker 1>station set plevel. He leaves the machines and the balls unattended, just,

0:26:53.080 --> 0:26:56.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, just walks away. I gotta go move my car.

0:26:56.720 --> 0:26:59.960
<v Speaker 1>He's gone for thirty minutes now. Normally they bring the

0:27:00.040 --> 0:27:02.679
<v Speaker 1>senior citizen on to the set to practice during this

0:27:02.720 --> 0:27:04.840
<v Speaker 1>time with the machines while the cameras are on. Instead,

0:27:04.880 --> 0:27:06.680
<v Speaker 1>they don't. They leave the senior citizen in the green

0:27:06.760 --> 0:27:08.880
<v Speaker 1>room for the full thirty minutes. Nobody tells her what's

0:27:08.920 --> 0:27:10.800
<v Speaker 1>going on, so she's just sitting and there, confused, like

0:27:10.840 --> 0:27:14.520
<v Speaker 1>what's coming now? Que Joe back in action. The art

0:27:14.560 --> 0:27:17.200
<v Speaker 1>director does his part. Joe back passes the weighted balls

0:27:17.240 --> 0:27:19.639
<v Speaker 1>to a stage hand and asked the stage hand to

0:27:19.760 --> 0:27:23.080
<v Speaker 1>put the doctor balls into the machine. Possibly a mistake,

0:27:23.119 --> 0:27:25.399
<v Speaker 1>possibly not change out. The stage hand is in on it.

0:27:25.720 --> 0:27:28.720
<v Speaker 1>He's been contacted, so box the stage hand act fast.

0:27:28.760 --> 0:27:30.040
<v Speaker 1>He's like, I need a guy to help me. So

0:27:30.080 --> 0:27:32.280
<v Speaker 1>they make their move, they get the balls in, they

0:27:32.320 --> 0:27:35.680
<v Speaker 1>swap out the other balls. Everything's going huge pay days

0:27:35.760 --> 0:27:39.000
<v Speaker 1>lined up for everybody involved to pull it off. Nobody

0:27:39.040 --> 0:27:42.639
<v Speaker 1>sees them. Now we are a few minutes before seven pm.

0:27:42.760 --> 0:27:45.320
<v Speaker 1>It's time for the daily Draw. If you can believe it,

0:27:45.480 --> 0:27:47.520
<v Speaker 1>can you guess how many people are watching? Oh like

0:27:47.760 --> 0:27:52.120
<v Speaker 1>nine million people, very close six six million people. Six

0:27:52.160 --> 0:27:54.360
<v Speaker 1>million people tune in to watch those lotty numbers, which

0:27:54.400 --> 0:27:56.320
<v Speaker 1>is more than all the other news stations are getting

0:27:56.320 --> 0:27:58.680
<v Speaker 1>at this time. So every most to Pittsburgh that is

0:27:58.680 --> 0:28:01.240
<v Speaker 1>watching TV at this time is watching this event. And

0:28:01.240 --> 0:28:03.919
<v Speaker 1>now wait a second, this is a state lottery, state lottery,

0:28:04.080 --> 0:28:06.399
<v Speaker 1>so this is actually all over that's just at the station.

0:28:06.440 --> 0:28:09.639
<v Speaker 1>There's six million. It's just six million people watching this station,

0:28:09.760 --> 0:28:12.840
<v Speaker 1>and that so that it's broadcast at other stations, broadcast

0:28:12.880 --> 0:28:16.679
<v Speaker 1>throughout yest it. I'm slow good, don't cool with it.

0:28:17.040 --> 0:28:20.080
<v Speaker 1>So now the daily draw. They had the local senior citizen.

0:28:20.119 --> 0:28:22.080
<v Speaker 1>I told her she's waiting in the green room. Well,

0:28:22.080 --> 0:28:25.200
<v Speaker 1>her name is Violet Lowry, and they say, Violet Lowry,

0:28:25.240 --> 0:28:26.960
<v Speaker 1>could you please come up to the set, And so

0:28:27.080 --> 0:28:30.680
<v Speaker 1>she was like okay, she calls on up there, so

0:28:30.760 --> 0:28:34.160
<v Speaker 1>we have viol Lowry creeping up to the set. Joe

0:28:34.160 --> 0:28:36.439
<v Speaker 1>Buck is on the and the wings watching, the stage

0:28:36.480 --> 0:28:38.760
<v Speaker 1>hand is watching. Nick Perry is waiting on the set

0:28:38.800 --> 0:28:41.120
<v Speaker 1>for her to get there. She's the last piece of

0:28:41.120 --> 0:28:42.800
<v Speaker 1>this puzzle. All she has to do is take the

0:28:42.800 --> 0:28:45.040
<v Speaker 1>weighted balls and turn them around in the right order.

0:28:45.680 --> 0:28:47.800
<v Speaker 1>And after this quick break, I'll tell you what happens

0:28:47.800 --> 0:29:12.160
<v Speaker 1>when she steps onto the Okay, Elizabeth, yes I left you.

0:29:12.200 --> 0:29:14.040
<v Speaker 1>We were at the W T A E. Set. The

0:29:14.120 --> 0:29:16.840
<v Speaker 1>tensions were hot. Oh I am on pins and needles

0:29:16.880 --> 0:29:19.800
<v Speaker 1>this whole all those ads played and it went on

0:29:19.880 --> 0:29:22.160
<v Speaker 1>for a really long time, and the pins and the

0:29:22.200 --> 0:29:24.680
<v Speaker 1>needles have been puncturing my bed. D Well, I'm here

0:29:24.720 --> 0:29:27.200
<v Speaker 1>to relieve you of that pain and anxiety. Thank you.

0:29:28.480 --> 0:29:31.760
<v Speaker 1>I want you to picture it. Oh, yes, close your eyes.

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<v Speaker 1>Eighties something year old Violet Lowry arrives on set. She

0:29:37.640 --> 0:29:40.160
<v Speaker 1>shows up ready to pick some numbers. She's there for

0:29:40.200 --> 0:29:43.040
<v Speaker 1>the balls. She's escorted from the green room, where she

0:29:43.080 --> 0:29:45.040
<v Speaker 1>has been asked to wait for half an hour. Finally

0:29:45.040 --> 0:29:47.880
<v Speaker 1>it's six. Someone takes herund to the set. The stage

0:29:47.920 --> 0:29:51.200
<v Speaker 1>hand rolls the large lottery machines into play. Nick Perry

0:29:51.240 --> 0:29:53.760
<v Speaker 1>stands off stage, ready to do his bit, waiting for

0:29:53.800 --> 0:29:56.560
<v Speaker 1>ast two. At sixty nine, the announcer goes to work.

0:29:57.160 --> 0:30:01.120
<v Speaker 1>It's the man with all the dollars, the king pit himself,

0:30:01.280 --> 0:30:06.520
<v Speaker 1>Nick Perry, Lottery official Ed plevel leads Violet Lowry to

0:30:06.800 --> 0:30:10.280
<v Speaker 1>the lottery machines. The machines kick on on the bubble.

0:30:12.760 --> 0:30:16.120
<v Speaker 1>The balls start going. There's all this frenetic action. The

0:30:16.200 --> 0:30:18.760
<v Speaker 1>fans are kicked to life and everything that. Everyone's excited.

0:30:18.960 --> 0:30:21.800
<v Speaker 1>The ping pong balls bouncing against each other. What's gonna happen?

0:30:21.880 --> 0:30:24.400
<v Speaker 1>The balls start to lift on this currents of air.

0:30:24.560 --> 0:30:29.480
<v Speaker 1>They're all jumbling around. Looks perfectly normal. Then, as Nick

0:30:29.520 --> 0:30:34.120
<v Speaker 1>Perry explains the game to those watching, I quote, good

0:30:34.160 --> 0:30:37.400
<v Speaker 1>evening everyone, It's time for the live drawing up the

0:30:37.480 --> 0:30:43.200
<v Speaker 1>daily number Thursday. Each of our three machines contains ten balls.

0:30:43.360 --> 0:30:47.120
<v Speaker 1>Numbers zero to nine will draw one digit from each machine.

0:30:47.240 --> 0:30:51.880
<v Speaker 1>Now mix the balls in the first machine and the second,

0:30:52.720 --> 0:30:56.440
<v Speaker 1>and now the third machine. Drawing tonight will be Senior

0:30:56.480 --> 0:31:00.320
<v Speaker 1>Citizen bio Let Lowry are supervising comes of a state

0:31:00.360 --> 0:31:05.600
<v Speaker 1>Lottery Security Officials District Manager Ed Plebo. Violet Lowry watches

0:31:05.640 --> 0:31:07.960
<v Speaker 1>the doctor balls jumping around and tumble. She looks a

0:31:07.960 --> 0:31:10.560
<v Speaker 1>little intimidated. The first ball lists up the shoot and

0:31:10.880 --> 0:31:13.360
<v Speaker 1>Will kind of goes do it. She lives over. She

0:31:13.520 --> 0:31:17.160
<v Speaker 1>twists the number around and she shows, oh, it's a six,

0:31:17.720 --> 0:31:21.479
<v Speaker 1>and now Violet draw the first digit please sex, and

0:31:21.960 --> 0:31:30.080
<v Speaker 1>the second digit six, and now the third digit six,

0:31:30.440 --> 0:31:33.360
<v Speaker 1>and there you have it. Pennsylvania's daily lottery number is

0:31:33.480 --> 0:31:37.479
<v Speaker 1>six six six. If you've got it, come and get it.

0:31:37.560 --> 0:31:42.960
<v Speaker 1>If not, better luck tomorrow. Just like that, the lottery

0:31:43.000 --> 0:31:46.760
<v Speaker 1>had been robbed. Is the winner. Nick Perry and his

0:31:46.800 --> 0:31:49.520
<v Speaker 1>group they all go excited. They've done it. They've rigged

0:31:49.520 --> 0:31:51.200
<v Speaker 1>the state lottery. They're all about to be millions of

0:31:51.200 --> 0:31:54.800
<v Speaker 1>dollars richer, and six million people watched them do it

0:31:54.840 --> 0:31:57.760
<v Speaker 1>at home, and Hazels like, oh my god, I just

0:31:57.880 --> 0:32:01.200
<v Speaker 1>unleashed the beast. I pulled six six six, like I's

0:32:01.240 --> 0:32:03.360
<v Speaker 1>in there with like holy water. No one's going to

0:32:03.400 --> 0:32:06.000
<v Speaker 1>talk to her after that. I can't. My church group

0:32:06.000 --> 0:32:09.080
<v Speaker 1>will not. Something was going to happen to Hazel when

0:32:09.120 --> 0:32:12.080
<v Speaker 1>you were doing your little story. I didn't mean to worry.

0:32:12.720 --> 0:32:15.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah it's okay, so Edd plebble. He goes and re

0:32:15.480 --> 0:32:17.800
<v Speaker 1>secures the machines, they take the two keys, they lock

0:32:17.880 --> 0:32:21.080
<v Speaker 1>it back up. Now, just before that, he had to

0:32:21.120 --> 0:32:23.560
<v Speaker 1>have enough time for Joe Bach to slide in there,

0:32:23.600 --> 0:32:27.280
<v Speaker 1>grab the Doctor Balls machines, switch back in the original balls,

0:32:27.400 --> 0:32:29.760
<v Speaker 1>and then make his escape. Allows us to have a

0:32:29.800 --> 0:32:32.000
<v Speaker 1>couple of moments for him to do that. Then they

0:32:32.040 --> 0:32:34.960
<v Speaker 1>lock up the machines. So now Joe back, he takes

0:32:34.960 --> 0:32:37.600
<v Speaker 1>the Doctor Balls home. He piles the balls into an

0:32:37.600 --> 0:32:41.000
<v Speaker 1>empty paint can sets them all on fire, destroying any evidence.

0:32:41.440 --> 0:32:44.440
<v Speaker 1>Smart dude, Right, yeah, that's good. We've gotten rid of

0:32:44.480 --> 0:32:47.240
<v Speaker 1>at least one of the So now it's time to

0:32:47.240 --> 0:32:50.840
<v Speaker 1>collect the winnings. The Marago's brothers re into the picture.

0:32:51.480 --> 0:32:53.720
<v Speaker 1>They climb back in their land yard. The giant white

0:32:53.720 --> 0:32:56.400
<v Speaker 1>caddy cruise on over to Philly looking to pick up

0:32:56.440 --> 0:32:59.240
<v Speaker 1>their money, and the brothers they drive around collecting their

0:32:59.240 --> 0:33:02.360
<v Speaker 1>cash pay days. And then they come back to Pittsburgh

0:33:02.360 --> 0:33:04.520
<v Speaker 1>and they meet in the cemetery and they secretly meet

0:33:04.640 --> 0:33:06.440
<v Speaker 1>Nick Perry and they give him the first part of

0:33:06.440 --> 0:33:08.360
<v Speaker 1>his cut. Now, do you know where they were picking

0:33:08.440 --> 0:33:10.040
<v Speaker 1>up the pay They didn't. They wouldn't. They have to

0:33:10.080 --> 0:33:13.040
<v Speaker 1>go to the state capitol, to an office somewhere or

0:33:14.040 --> 0:33:15.760
<v Speaker 1>local lottery tickets, so yeah, they could do. They go

0:33:15.800 --> 0:33:17.400
<v Speaker 1>to the store where they bought it in the store

0:33:17.400 --> 0:33:19.000
<v Speaker 1>has to pay it up. I don't know if the

0:33:19.000 --> 0:33:20.480
<v Speaker 1>store had to pay it up. But they went around

0:33:20.480 --> 0:33:23.200
<v Speaker 1>collecting and so in all the news stories seemed that

0:33:23.240 --> 0:33:26.240
<v Speaker 1>they were getting from the stores, there's like local lottery offices.

0:33:26.360 --> 0:33:28.480
<v Speaker 1>I think maybe maybe there were local lottery I did

0:33:28.480 --> 0:33:31.240
<v Speaker 1>not look into who they are actually redeeming the tickets

0:33:31.240 --> 0:33:34.320
<v Speaker 1>with a scale. Yeah, and I know you're into like

0:33:34.360 --> 0:33:36.080
<v Speaker 1>the paperwork. I was just like to get the money,

0:33:36.120 --> 0:33:39.160
<v Speaker 1>all right. So they bring him thirty five tho dollars

0:33:39.160 --> 0:33:40.680
<v Speaker 1>in a brown paper bag and they handed to him

0:33:40.680 --> 0:33:42.920
<v Speaker 1>in a cemetery, you know, like, here's your first cut.

0:33:42.960 --> 0:33:44.880
<v Speaker 1>This will just be one of many envelopes to come.

0:33:45.040 --> 0:33:46.720
<v Speaker 1>He's like, I got it. And they got a couple

0:33:46.720 --> 0:33:48.000
<v Speaker 1>of days to collect their winnings. You don't have to

0:33:48.000 --> 0:33:50.360
<v Speaker 1>get it all that the first day. So they're taking

0:33:50.400 --> 0:33:52.880
<v Speaker 1>their time, right. No one was the wiser at first,

0:33:53.080 --> 0:33:57.480
<v Speaker 1>but someone had noticed, and that someone was named Anthony Gross.

0:33:57.480 --> 0:34:00.680
<v Speaker 1>So Gross. Now I want you to know about this man,

0:34:00.720 --> 0:34:03.360
<v Speaker 1>Anthony Grosso. He knew something about rig games because he

0:34:03.360 --> 0:34:06.560
<v Speaker 1>had served time in prison for racketeering. He later would

0:34:06.560 --> 0:34:09.480
<v Speaker 1>serve time after these events for quote, tax evasion and

0:34:09.560 --> 0:34:12.319
<v Speaker 1>violating federal gambling loss. He was what you would call

0:34:12.400 --> 0:34:15.840
<v Speaker 1>a mobster, Big Anthony, Big Anthony, real live mobster, not

0:34:15.960 --> 0:34:18.160
<v Speaker 1>part of like the Scarfolk family. But he had been

0:34:18.280 --> 0:34:21.720
<v Speaker 1>legitimately running a numbers game for forty years, a local

0:34:21.920 --> 0:34:24.840
<v Speaker 1>numbers game. And the interesting part is that the Moroco's

0:34:24.880 --> 0:34:26.879
<v Speaker 1>brothers thought, you know what, we should rob him while

0:34:26.880 --> 0:34:30.360
<v Speaker 1>we're doing this. Yeah, and you know how the brothers

0:34:32.040 --> 0:34:34.560
<v Speaker 1>when Pennsylvania created the lottery, what they had done was

0:34:34.600 --> 0:34:37.399
<v Speaker 1>to basically take over the numbers game from the mob.

0:34:37.560 --> 0:34:40.200
<v Speaker 1>The mob was pretty much, you know, various mobs, but

0:34:40.239 --> 0:34:42.600
<v Speaker 1>it was just say, for the sake of time, the mob.

0:34:43.160 --> 0:34:45.360
<v Speaker 1>They took over all the bookmakers and numbers runners and

0:34:45.360 --> 0:34:46.799
<v Speaker 1>they said, okay, hey, how about give us the money?

0:34:46.840 --> 0:34:48.800
<v Speaker 1>Were the state and people were like okay, cool. The

0:34:48.920 --> 0:34:52.200
<v Speaker 1>mobs like no, no, no, no. How much do they pay?

0:34:52.200 --> 0:34:54.320
<v Speaker 1>And when you win? Is it one of those education

0:34:54.400 --> 0:34:59.040
<v Speaker 1>lotteries where they go to senior citizens California's education the

0:34:59.360 --> 0:35:01.040
<v Speaker 1>exactly because this part of the look see where the

0:35:01.040 --> 0:35:04.319
<v Speaker 1>money is going? Keeping Violet lotry going. They called her

0:35:04.320 --> 0:35:07.920
<v Speaker 1>Hazel it's violent. Violet. Yeah, sorry, sorry violent, she's not

0:35:08.040 --> 0:35:12.080
<v Speaker 1>here to hear it. So Anthony grows our real live

0:35:12.160 --> 0:35:15.080
<v Speaker 1>mobster and he uh and his ilk. They hear that

0:35:15.080 --> 0:35:17.280
<v Speaker 1>the Pennsylvania State Lottery is trying to take over their

0:35:17.480 --> 0:35:21.960
<v Speaker 1>millions of dollars industry. They're like, what are those mooks doing? Okay,

0:35:22.040 --> 0:35:24.600
<v Speaker 1>how much did they pay out? When you win? People

0:35:24.600 --> 0:35:27.600
<v Speaker 1>are like, oh, hey, Big Anthony, they pay five dollars

0:35:27.640 --> 0:35:29.520
<v Speaker 1>to one. Okay, here's what we're gonna do. We're gonna

0:35:29.560 --> 0:35:33.520
<v Speaker 1>pay six. So they run the exact same lottery off

0:35:33.520 --> 0:35:35.919
<v Speaker 1>of the state's lottery numbers and they say, you pick

0:35:35.960 --> 0:35:37.640
<v Speaker 1>the numbers and you buy the ticket from us, we'll

0:35:37.680 --> 0:35:41.400
<v Speaker 1>pay six one. They turn the state lottery back in legitimate.

0:35:43.080 --> 0:35:46.080
<v Speaker 1>So what this means is that the Moroco's brothers knew this.

0:35:46.160 --> 0:35:48.160
<v Speaker 1>So they're like, hey, if we go take some of

0:35:48.200 --> 0:35:50.520
<v Speaker 1>the mob tickets, we'll get paid six hundred to one

0:35:50.719 --> 0:35:53.160
<v Speaker 1>instead of five to one. So they get greedy and

0:35:53.160 --> 0:35:55.120
<v Speaker 1>they go and buy mob tickets and then they come

0:35:55.120 --> 0:35:56.600
<v Speaker 1>back to them Bob and they're like, hey, pay up.

0:35:57.040 --> 0:36:02.080
<v Speaker 1>Oh that is a recipe for disaster. So Big Anthony

0:36:02.200 --> 0:36:06.239
<v Speaker 1>he's like, um, not too into this. He's like, how

0:36:06.640 --> 0:36:10.160
<v Speaker 1>how dare these people rob me? Big? Anthony grows, So,

0:36:10.200 --> 0:36:12.160
<v Speaker 1>I've been in the numbers games since they will knee

0:36:12.200 --> 0:36:16.000
<v Speaker 1>hid to Grasshoper. So he then decides to do what

0:36:16.040 --> 0:36:17.800
<v Speaker 1>all mops as you do in a pinch. He turns

0:36:17.840 --> 0:36:19.800
<v Speaker 1>to the state and he said, hey, you should investigate

0:36:19.840 --> 0:36:23.600
<v Speaker 1>these guys. He goes right to the state. They're totally

0:36:23.719 --> 0:36:27.279
<v Speaker 1>using the infrastructure for their benefit, either to ride their

0:36:27.440 --> 0:36:31.320
<v Speaker 1>lot of setup or to be their enforcers. That's that's wise,

0:36:31.600 --> 0:36:39.440
<v Speaker 1>straight Pennsylvania. Those are guys ding ding Dan. So Anthony grows.

0:36:39.440 --> 0:36:42.200
<v Speaker 1>So when that first move fails in the State's like, look, look,

0:36:42.520 --> 0:36:44.879
<v Speaker 1>we don't want people to think that the state. You're

0:36:44.920 --> 0:36:46.680
<v Speaker 1>saying it's rigged. We don't have proof of that. We

0:36:46.680 --> 0:36:48.839
<v Speaker 1>can't have people believing it's rigged. This is a new thing.

0:36:49.360 --> 0:36:51.120
<v Speaker 1>We think you're a mobster and you watch your game back,

0:36:51.200 --> 0:36:53.880
<v Speaker 1>so why don't you blow anything? Gross was excuse me?

0:36:54.400 --> 0:36:56.480
<v Speaker 1>He's like, Okay, it's no problem. I got other avenues.

0:36:56.520 --> 0:36:58.680
<v Speaker 1>So he goes to the journalist. He's like, hey, journalists,

0:36:58.680 --> 0:37:01.080
<v Speaker 1>I got a story for you. The state knows that

0:37:01.120 --> 0:37:03.480
<v Speaker 1>the lottery has been rigged, and they don't want to investigate.

0:37:03.840 --> 0:37:06.319
<v Speaker 1>So the journal starts writing about say it's like damn it.

0:37:06.400 --> 0:37:09.000
<v Speaker 1>So then now like, okay, they announced a big investigation, right.

0:37:09.160 --> 0:37:11.840
<v Speaker 1>The investigation is basically a show trial. It's not really

0:37:11.880 --> 0:37:15.640
<v Speaker 1>intended to do anything. Anthony Grosso is really disappointed in

0:37:15.640 --> 0:37:18.160
<v Speaker 1>this development. So Anthony gross So keeps the pressure on,

0:37:18.600 --> 0:37:22.320
<v Speaker 1>so he starts a newspaper. So he just keeps basically

0:37:22.400 --> 0:37:25.080
<v Speaker 1>funneling stuff because he not only he figures out who

0:37:25.120 --> 0:37:27.759
<v Speaker 1>did it. He knows it was the Morogua's brothers. He

0:37:27.800 --> 0:37:29.799
<v Speaker 1>knows who was involved and who took his money. So

0:37:29.840 --> 0:37:31.960
<v Speaker 1>he's like, look it's this guy, it's that guy, Go

0:37:31.960 --> 0:37:37.840
<v Speaker 1>go follow this paper trail. Finally, in September, newspaper story

0:37:37.840 --> 0:37:41.879
<v Speaker 1>from the area reports quote. Allegations that the a drawing

0:37:41.920 --> 0:37:44.120
<v Speaker 1>may have been tampered with first surfaced in early May,

0:37:44.160 --> 0:37:46.760
<v Speaker 1>when Anthony Grosso, who has been called the numbers kingpin

0:37:46.840 --> 0:37:49.880
<v Speaker 1>in Pittsburgh by the State Crime Commission, told reporters that

0:37:50.000 --> 0:37:53.440
<v Speaker 1>the drawing had been fixed. Organized crime figures had noticed

0:37:53.440 --> 0:37:57.640
<v Speaker 1>heavy betting on numbers using the four six combination. After

0:37:57.680 --> 0:37:59.719
<v Speaker 1>the news stories broke and talk of the triple six

0:37:59.719 --> 0:38:03.480
<v Speaker 1>fix spread all across Pennsylvania, all of them, Bob gets interested,

0:38:03.600 --> 0:38:05.839
<v Speaker 1>and of course now the state can't ignore it, so

0:38:05.960 --> 0:38:08.879
<v Speaker 1>they're like, damn it. So the investigators started actually doing

0:38:08.880 --> 0:38:12.120
<v Speaker 1>an investigation. Now after doing the fake investigation back in May,

0:38:12.200 --> 0:38:14.120
<v Speaker 1>now in September they do a real investigation. They go

0:38:14.200 --> 0:38:16.719
<v Speaker 1>around and they go to a bar club called the

0:38:16.760 --> 0:38:19.319
<v Speaker 1>Do drop in. Oh I like that, man, I knew

0:38:19.360 --> 0:38:21.640
<v Speaker 1>you would. Now I have a really quick question. They

0:38:21.680 --> 0:38:24.279
<v Speaker 1>only rigged at the one time, right, yes, ing at

0:38:24.280 --> 0:38:26.520
<v Speaker 1>the one time to get the four million payday. And

0:38:26.560 --> 0:38:29.560
<v Speaker 1>so even if you didn't buy the ticket from the Mob,

0:38:29.640 --> 0:38:31.839
<v Speaker 1>if you took the ticket to the mob, they pay out.

0:38:32.040 --> 0:38:33.880
<v Speaker 1>You got to buy a mob. You buy a Mob tickets.

0:38:33.880 --> 0:38:36.320
<v Speaker 1>And did they buy Mob tickets the Mob tickets and

0:38:36.320 --> 0:38:38.200
<v Speaker 1>took it? The Mob said pay us six to one.

0:38:38.880 --> 0:38:41.399
<v Speaker 1>Basically because you rigged the lottery that you're now doing,

0:38:41.440 --> 0:38:44.719
<v Speaker 1>you have essentially Roby got it. They're like, you're gonna

0:38:44.719 --> 0:38:46.520
<v Speaker 1>bring us in on your fix. Yeah, and you're not

0:38:46.560 --> 0:38:49.440
<v Speaker 1>going to bring us in on your fix, you dumb moose.

0:38:50.080 --> 0:38:53.080
<v Speaker 1>So the owner of the Dude drop in. He when

0:38:53.120 --> 0:38:56.200
<v Speaker 1>the investigate investigators are making news in the press, he

0:38:56.280 --> 0:38:58.759
<v Speaker 1>calls the state and he goes, you know, what. There

0:38:58.760 --> 0:39:02.120
<v Speaker 1>were these two suspitious man in a big white Cadillac

0:39:02.560 --> 0:39:05.160
<v Speaker 1>who showed up at my place. They bought thousands of

0:39:05.200 --> 0:39:08.239
<v Speaker 1>dollars of tickets, which they weren't supposed to do. The

0:39:08.280 --> 0:39:10.320
<v Speaker 1>tickets all had the same combination. It is all for

0:39:10.480 --> 0:39:12.200
<v Speaker 1>us and six is like they're saying in the news.

0:39:12.640 --> 0:39:14.719
<v Speaker 1>And then they bought the tickets. But then it was

0:39:14.719 --> 0:39:18.239
<v Speaker 1>the interesting thing was they called somebody and then they

0:39:18.239 --> 0:39:20.799
<v Speaker 1>held the phone up to the machine so they could

0:39:20.840 --> 0:39:23.719
<v Speaker 1>hear the tickets being printed. And then they spoken some

0:39:23.800 --> 0:39:26.200
<v Speaker 1>foreign language over the phone with the person they were

0:39:26.200 --> 0:39:29.319
<v Speaker 1>talking to, the foreign language being Greek. So wait, they

0:39:29.400 --> 0:39:32.560
<v Speaker 1>used the phone at the Dude drop in. Can we

0:39:32.640 --> 0:39:35.680
<v Speaker 1>call Nick Perry cell phone? So they say, hey, can

0:39:35.680 --> 0:39:37.520
<v Speaker 1>we use your house phone? I gotta call my boss

0:39:38.000 --> 0:39:40.040
<v Speaker 1>real quick. Also, by the way, you get a couple

0:39:40.040 --> 0:39:42.040
<v Speaker 1>of thousand dollars of tickets because we're lazy, We're not

0:39:42.040 --> 0:39:44.440
<v Speaker 1>going to go to a couple of hundreds were remember

0:39:44.520 --> 0:39:47.600
<v Speaker 1>us in our big white caddy. Also, an employee of

0:39:47.680 --> 0:39:50.200
<v Speaker 1>the Dude drop In recalled for the investigators, who then

0:39:50.239 --> 0:39:53.000
<v Speaker 1>showed up to go what do you have for us? Oh? Yeah, man,

0:39:53.040 --> 0:39:55.440
<v Speaker 1>there's these two guys in a big white Catillac. They

0:39:55.440 --> 0:39:57.839
<v Speaker 1>had a very memorable platinum blond with them from what

0:39:57.880 --> 0:40:00.440
<v Speaker 1>I recall. So they're doing everything you're not supposed to do,

0:40:01.200 --> 0:40:03.160
<v Speaker 1>and the state investigators go, hey, do you guys have

0:40:03.200 --> 0:40:05.080
<v Speaker 1>a phone records? They're like, oh, yeah, yeah. So they

0:40:05.120 --> 0:40:06.960
<v Speaker 1>pulled up the phone records and the phone call from

0:40:06.960 --> 0:40:10.240
<v Speaker 1>the dude drop in goes to Pittsburgh TV station wt

0:40:12.120 --> 0:40:14.719
<v Speaker 1>So the investigators then go him out and immediately arrest

0:40:14.760 --> 0:40:18.480
<v Speaker 1>the Moraguos brothers, who then immediately turned state's evidence and

0:40:18.640 --> 0:40:22.360
<v Speaker 1>flip on their childhood friend Nick Perry. Charges against the

0:40:22.360 --> 0:40:26.440
<v Speaker 1>Moraguos brothers are dropped, charges that are then filed against

0:40:26.480 --> 0:40:29.920
<v Speaker 1>Joe Bach part director, Ed Plevel, the lottery state official,

0:40:30.000 --> 0:40:32.759
<v Speaker 1>and Nick Perry. The news team at w t a

0:40:32.840 --> 0:40:35.600
<v Speaker 1>E has to break the news while Perry is in

0:40:35.640 --> 0:40:39.720
<v Speaker 1>the building, they go, they go with the breaking news.

0:40:39.719 --> 0:40:41.799
<v Speaker 1>While he's there, he can look up and see the

0:40:41.880 --> 0:40:44.680
<v Speaker 1>monitor like see himself, Like, well, that's not good, and

0:40:44.719 --> 0:40:47.799
<v Speaker 1>then liked, did he get arrested at the station. Well,

0:40:47.840 --> 0:40:49.600
<v Speaker 1>here's how it plays out. So w t a E

0:40:49.800 --> 0:40:52.239
<v Speaker 1>news director Joe Raveto has to make the tough call.

0:40:52.320 --> 0:40:54.560
<v Speaker 1>He's like, it's news. We gotta run it. It's even

0:40:54.560 --> 0:40:56.080
<v Speaker 1>though he's in the in the building and this will

0:40:56.120 --> 0:40:58.279
<v Speaker 1>be insensitive, we gotta run it. So they break the news.

0:40:58.360 --> 0:41:01.520
<v Speaker 1>Nick Perry is there and he based really leaves and

0:41:00.840 --> 0:41:04.520
<v Speaker 1>Sally Wiggins was the anchor at the time, and she's like,

0:41:05.120 --> 0:41:07.840
<v Speaker 1>he's really nervous and did not want to do it.

0:41:07.920 --> 0:41:09.640
<v Speaker 1>Joe Rivito was talking and he's like, look, you gotta

0:41:09.680 --> 0:41:12.400
<v Speaker 1>do it. And I quote, here's how Joe Rivito remembered it.

0:41:12.920 --> 0:41:15.120
<v Speaker 1>I knew he was sitting right upstairs, a guy I

0:41:15.200 --> 0:41:20.320
<v Speaker 1>had known worked with. It was a very difficult period personally, professionally.

0:41:20.800 --> 0:41:22.799
<v Speaker 1>It was a tough juggling act to do the right thing.

0:41:22.840 --> 0:41:25.240
<v Speaker 1>Because of the fact we were the station that carried

0:41:25.280 --> 0:41:27.879
<v Speaker 1>the lottery, because of the fact we knew Nick, we

0:41:27.960 --> 0:41:31.200
<v Speaker 1>felt we had to pursue the story aggressively. It was

0:41:31.239 --> 0:41:34.160
<v Speaker 1>a sad thing because here's a guy. You wipe that

0:41:34.239 --> 0:41:36.920
<v Speaker 1>off the slate who was a really terrific guy. He

0:41:37.000 --> 0:41:39.439
<v Speaker 1>was a terrific employee. But you can't wipe that off.

0:41:39.840 --> 0:41:42.200
<v Speaker 1>This one thing has ruined this guy's life. It will

0:41:42.239 --> 0:41:44.680
<v Speaker 1>smear this guy's life. He's done it and I knew

0:41:44.680 --> 0:41:46.880
<v Speaker 1>it that day. So he's like I gotta do the

0:41:46.960 --> 0:41:50.760
<v Speaker 1>right thing. They bust him out, so the Morago's brothers. Meanwhile,

0:41:50.840 --> 0:41:53.000
<v Speaker 1>they end up skating on all the charges. Nick Perry

0:41:53.000 --> 0:41:56.080
<v Speaker 1>gets arrested, Joe Bak gets arrested, and Level gets arrested.

0:41:56.440 --> 0:42:00.360
<v Speaker 1>Nick Perry. He's tried, convicted, and sentenced to three to

0:42:00.480 --> 0:42:07.440
<v Speaker 1>seven years in prison in camp Hill, Pennsylvania. Ed Plevill

0:42:07.480 --> 0:42:09.399
<v Speaker 1>gets two to seven years for his part. Joe back

0:42:09.480 --> 0:42:12.359
<v Speaker 1>pleads guilty as well. Now, Nick Perry, when he left

0:42:12.360 --> 0:42:14.440
<v Speaker 1>the courthouse, it was hard for his fans to imagine

0:42:14.480 --> 0:42:17.799
<v Speaker 1>at the host of bowling for dollars when rigged the

0:42:17.880 --> 0:42:22.120
<v Speaker 1>state lottery, and he would do it in such beautiful fabrics.

0:42:22.160 --> 0:42:24.799
<v Speaker 1>It was just an insult to the Pittsburgh populace. Now,

0:42:25.000 --> 0:42:28.320
<v Speaker 1>one fan wrote to the local newspaper, and I quote,

0:42:28.880 --> 0:42:30.960
<v Speaker 1>He's like Joan of Arc being burned at the steak.

0:42:31.400 --> 0:42:33.759
<v Speaker 1>I can't see why sixty three year old man who

0:42:33.800 --> 0:42:36.480
<v Speaker 1>has a good living and is established in the community

0:42:36.560 --> 0:42:39.719
<v Speaker 1>would do something like this. It's like Joan of Arc. Yes,

0:42:39.760 --> 0:42:42.239
<v Speaker 1>he broke their hearts, so he had visions God told

0:42:42.280 --> 0:42:44.719
<v Speaker 1>him to rob the lottery. Good It's like I must

0:42:44.840 --> 0:42:48.600
<v Speaker 1>do this for the sake of Pittsburgh. So of course

0:42:48.719 --> 0:42:53.040
<v Speaker 1>there's a movie of this whole ordeal because it's cinematic. Now,

0:42:53.040 --> 0:42:55.600
<v Speaker 1>the film is called Lucky Numbers. It's loosely based on

0:42:55.640 --> 0:42:58.360
<v Speaker 1>the Nick Perry story. In this case, the guy is

0:42:58.400 --> 0:43:01.560
<v Speaker 1>a Harrisburg TV weather man and he's not the Pittsburgh

0:43:01.560 --> 0:43:04.359
<v Speaker 1>host of Bowling for dollars. And in the film he's

0:43:04.400 --> 0:43:06.719
<v Speaker 1>also kind of he's desperate for a big score. Was

0:43:06.800 --> 0:43:09.120
<v Speaker 1>Nick Perry just kind of comes upon the idea? And uh,

0:43:09.280 --> 0:43:11.800
<v Speaker 1>now can you guess who played the Nick Perry figure

0:43:11.960 --> 0:43:15.640
<v Speaker 1>in Lucky Numbers? When was the movie? When the movie

0:43:15.640 --> 0:43:19.480
<v Speaker 1>come out? The movie came out a while back. Oh,

0:43:19.520 --> 0:43:21.719
<v Speaker 1>well that that clears it up for me. That's not

0:43:21.800 --> 0:43:24.839
<v Speaker 1>a big in in the theater. So like more than

0:43:25.200 --> 0:43:29.680
<v Speaker 1>thirty years ago, give me a decade the nineties. Okay?

0:43:29.960 --> 0:43:32.200
<v Speaker 1>Uh did it have? Did they film the movie before

0:43:32.280 --> 0:43:37.760
<v Speaker 1>this happened? In? All right? So in the he could

0:43:37.840 --> 0:43:42.440
<v Speaker 1>fly his own plane to the theater. Harrison Ford, no

0:43:42.640 --> 0:43:52.200
<v Speaker 1>bigger plane. So Nick Perry gets played in real life

0:43:52.200 --> 0:43:54.520
<v Speaker 1>by John Travolta in a movie nobody's ever heard of

0:43:55.719 --> 0:43:59.879
<v Speaker 1>movie of his life therebgh. Now, Dick Perry eventually does

0:44:00.040 --> 0:44:03.239
<v Speaker 1>return to where he'd first found fame and acclaim and

0:44:03.320 --> 0:44:07.440
<v Speaker 1>fortune bowling Lanes. The old sponsor for Bowling for Dollars

0:44:07.440 --> 0:44:10.840
<v Speaker 1>was a loyal and true friend was Whisman Bowling Supplies.

0:44:10.880 --> 0:44:13.319
<v Speaker 1>Whisman Bowling Supplies did not give up on him. They

0:44:13.360 --> 0:44:16.239
<v Speaker 1>decided to hire him as a salesman. So he got

0:44:16.239 --> 0:44:20.560
<v Speaker 1>a job. And his buddy Robert Whisman, a true true friend,

0:44:21.120 --> 0:44:24.279
<v Speaker 1>tick the once beloved it now disgrace Bowling for Dollars announcer.

0:44:24.480 --> 0:44:27.319
<v Speaker 1>And he said, and I quote, I couldn't have had

0:44:27.360 --> 0:44:30.759
<v Speaker 1>anyone better. He was an asset to the business. Good

0:44:30.760 --> 0:44:36.400
<v Speaker 1>buddies like. Look, they locked up his records. And firstly,

0:44:36.440 --> 0:44:38.440
<v Speaker 1>I would say, Nick Perry's about his Pittsburgh as the

0:44:38.440 --> 0:44:41.680
<v Speaker 1>three River Stadium. That guy, I just love him. Fun fact,

0:44:41.800 --> 0:44:44.440
<v Speaker 1>since that fateful day in ninety when Nick Perry and

0:44:44.480 --> 0:44:47.520
<v Speaker 1>his crew rigged the Pennsylvania State lottery, those same winning

0:44:47.600 --> 0:44:50.200
<v Speaker 1>numbers have come up. Six six six has come up

0:44:50.239 --> 0:44:53.880
<v Speaker 1>a few times. It's actually come up twenty four different

0:44:53.880 --> 0:44:57.040
<v Speaker 1>subsequent drawings, and every single time the people they call

0:44:57.080 --> 0:45:00.480
<v Speaker 1>it a Nick Perry. In fact, anything six six in

0:45:00.880 --> 0:45:03.480
<v Speaker 1>certain parts of Pittsburgh and other parts of Pennsylvania is known.

0:45:03.560 --> 0:45:06.440
<v Speaker 1>It's still referred to as a Nick Perry. Everywhere else

0:45:06.480 --> 0:45:09.440
<v Speaker 1>it's the number of the Beast, but in Pittsburgh it's Perry.

0:45:09.560 --> 0:45:13.560
<v Speaker 1>He's a beast six six. So Elizabeth, what does our

0:45:13.640 --> 0:45:16.480
<v Speaker 1>ridiculous takeaway here? You know? I think, well, it's it's

0:45:16.520 --> 0:45:18.400
<v Speaker 1>kind of a funny thing. He did a lot of

0:45:18.440 --> 0:45:21.560
<v Speaker 1>people dirty, right, so, like the station gave him this

0:45:21.640 --> 0:45:23.600
<v Speaker 1>cool show and everyone loved it. By the way, the

0:45:23.640 --> 0:45:27.560
<v Speaker 1>station lost the lottery to that. They said, you guys

0:45:27.640 --> 0:45:30.960
<v Speaker 1>can't be trusted to show this anymore, so, you know,

0:45:31.040 --> 0:45:34.560
<v Speaker 1>and then now I'm wondering about the bowling supply guy.

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<v Speaker 1>What's he skimming off the top? I don't trust this man.

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<v Speaker 1>I noticed this didn't what did the what did the

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<v Speaker 1>news director say? He did it to himself, Like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's one of those, like I would say, Shakespearean tragedies,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's kind of well know, you know what it's

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<v Speaker 1>like is it's like Joan of arc Yeah, that's really

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<v Speaker 1>like that's the best analogy. When before you read me

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<v Speaker 1>that quote, I was like, my it just feels like Jean,

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<v Speaker 1>which who's the dauphin them on fire? My ridiculous takeaway

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<v Speaker 1>would be never ever, And I mean never ever, ever,

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<v Speaker 1>ever rob the mob. Oh yeah, that's all these dudes

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<v Speaker 1>had to do. The Morocco's brothers. If they would have

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<v Speaker 1>just said, hey, baby, you stay home, we're gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>our rental card. We're gonna go and get some tickets.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be back at six o'clock. You know, everything will

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<v Speaker 1>be cool, they're like, no, baby, getting the backut on

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<v Speaker 1>your best for coke, because we're going to Philly to exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>They got the caddie all shined up and they took

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<v Speaker 1>that love boat for a cruise and they're like, nobody

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<v Speaker 1>will remember this because we're gonna have this day. It's

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<v Speaker 1>so memorable. You know. They decided to get rich on

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<v Speaker 1>all this mob money and they blow it for everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>But they didn't end up buying anything or do anything.

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<v Speaker 1>They nobody got anything out of this. They get all

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<v Speaker 1>greedy and then they don't do anything. The greed was

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<v Speaker 1>just the feeling if I can't It's like it's that

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<v Speaker 1>idea that your imagination will doom you, either with fear

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<v Speaker 1>or with greed. On it's your imagination, Like, don't listen

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<v Speaker 1>to that. Let the reality of the mob dictate your decisions.

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<v Speaker 1>Should I rob the mob? I think I'd get away

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<v Speaker 1>with it. Only the mob can have the mob's money.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the rule of the mob. That's our money. Will

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<v Speaker 1>kill you for that. So yeah, they're lucky they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>get Oh no, yeah, they got very lucky. Anthony Grosser

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much knew everybody would know with him. So he's like, look,

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<v Speaker 1>they already got embarrassed, and the state's embarrassed. He's using

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<v Speaker 1>the infrastructure for his benefit once again. Let them take

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<v Speaker 1>care of this. You clean up this stuff, get some garbage,

0:47:37.760 --> 0:47:40.960
<v Speaker 1>been on this. So the stupid criminals get caught, the

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<v Speaker 1>unlucky ones get caught, and in this case, it was both.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh and before we go, Elizabeth and I wanted to

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