1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: Ridiculous Crime. It's a production of I Heart Radio. Oh hey, 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: Elizabeth Dotton, what are you doing here? I was hanging out. 3 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 1: Do you happen to know anything that's ridiculous? Do you 4 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 1: know what's ridiculous? I do? Would you let me know? Yeah, 5 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: I can let you know that there. We don't have 6 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 1: a lot of novelty songs lately. That's ridiculous. We like 7 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:22,080 Speaker 1: in the eighties and then into the nineties, we'd have 8 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: like top like top forty novelty hits, you know, like, um, 9 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: what about like the Bahama Men, And like, uh, well 10 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 1: it's not now how many it was like fifty years ago? Okay, 11 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: I think that was the two thousands. But yeah, I 12 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: get to your point. I'm trying to overestimate because I'll 13 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: tell people it's ten years ago in the nineties and 14 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: it wasn't so well, I'm I'm airing on the side 15 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:47,200 Speaker 1: of caution when I say fifty years So you're telling 16 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 1: me that post Malone is not novelty songs. I'm kidding, 17 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: Like no, but like you know, Disco Duck and that 18 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: kind of stuff. Duck, Yeah, all the Duck songs, all 19 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: the two thousand's next like or just one hit wonder 20 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: catchy kind of I don't know what we're talking, like 21 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: the ninety nine balloons. Sure, no more novelty song actual 22 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: novel yea, so like rock me on a des By Falco. Right, 23 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: And here's the thing though, I don't listen to current 24 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: popular music, so maybe there are a ton of them. Yeah. 25 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, maybe you should be over there 26 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 1: on TikTok checking out the novelty songs. Maybe you's ridiculous. 27 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 1: You don't go on TikTok. There we go, so ridiculous. Well, 28 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: I got a story for you. It is kind of ridiculous. 29 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 1: I'd love to hear it in the mood always. Okay, 30 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: how about a story of a man who was famous 31 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 1: for hosting a TV game show called Bowling for Dollars 32 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 1: and then the same man he went on to be, 33 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: you know, be the guy, the mastermind if you will, 34 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: to rig a state lottery. Yeah, it's called the Triple 35 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: six Fix. And this is a story. It's about as 36 00:01:54,920 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 1: Pennsylvania as it comes. Nice. This is Ridiculous Crime, a 37 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: podcast about absurd and outrageous capers, heist and cons. It's 38 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: always murder free and ridiculous. Elizabeth What do you know 39 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 1: about Pennsylvania? Nothing? Nothing, zero. You're in. You're in. Luck. 40 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: I happen to have a few fun facts for you, 41 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: isn't it. William penn is the founder, correct, and he 42 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 1: likes the woods. That's Sylvania. Yes, we'll get into that. 43 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 1: That's the extent of what you know. Okay, Well, Pennsylvania 44 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 1: is the fifth most populous state, although the people there 45 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: will tell you it's actually the fifth most populous commonwealth. Yeah, 46 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:01,839 Speaker 1: it's known these days as a decider presidential elections. It's 47 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 1: also home to the Philadelphia Eagles and their battery tossing fans. 48 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:08,559 Speaker 1: And it's home to the Steelers, the Flyers, the Penguins, 49 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:13,519 Speaker 1: the Harrisburg Senators. Isn't gritty gritty? That's gritty Philadelphia Flyers. 50 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: Oh and the Four Seasons Total Lands one of my 51 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: all time favorite things ever. Very good. The Hersy Amusement 52 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: Park and factory tour. You can see how chocolate gets made, 53 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 1: now beyond sports chocolate. That kind of makes Europeans gag. 54 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: We have what else we need to know about Pennsylvania crime. Well, 55 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: you already got into the name part. His name for 56 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: William penn Sylvania means Penn's Woods. Do you know the 57 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: story of how it got that name. It wasn't him. 58 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: He did not name it after himself. Someone else named it. 59 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: Penns Woods, right, that's somebody else was King Charles, the 60 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: second King Charls the second of it was the king 61 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: of Scotland and the King of England after Oliver Cromwell died. 62 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: It's a whole deal we want to get into that. 63 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: The point is in one King Charles, he went over 64 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: to William Penn's daddy and he's like, hey, man, I 65 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: know I owe you a bunch of money to help 66 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: me win back my kingdom. So I owe you some duckets. 67 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: How about this, I'll give you some land in the 68 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: America's And Pops is like, give it to my boy, 69 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: all right. So he's like cool, gives it to his son. 70 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: He's like, hey, William Penn, look send the money. I'm 71 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: a little light on it. I'm gonna give you land 72 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 1: in the America's And uh, how about that? And he's like, oh, 73 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: that's very nice of you, your majesty, thank you very much. 74 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, man, you'll love it. The place has 75 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:36,039 Speaker 1: got a ton of trees. I think we should advertise that. 76 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: So let's call it William Penn's tree Land now William 77 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: Penn's Woods. He's like, yeah, yeah, I like that. There 78 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 1: it's done. Well. It's like no, no, no no, no, no, no, 79 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: don't name it after me. I'm a Quaker, so we 80 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:50,239 Speaker 1: can't have that. Let's name it New Whales. How about 81 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 1: that New Whales's kind of got a whole new vibe 82 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: to it, and you know, it's the America's everything's new there. 83 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: And he's like, no, I don't like that. I already 84 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 1: got my guys working on it. They're using a good vellum. 85 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: So let's just go with williams Pen's Woods. And he's like, no, 86 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 1: I bro, come on, your majesty. Could we just name 87 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 1: it something other than that? How about okay, pensil Okay Sylvania, 88 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 1: Like Elizabeth said, that's a good one. And he's like Kings, like, no, 89 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 1: I don't know. I told you got the charter going. 90 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: He's like, okay, I'll split it with you. Pensnsylvania my Sylvania, 91 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: and he's like I love it, and eventually got shortened 92 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: to Pennsylvania. Now. I spent a lot of time Pennsylvania 93 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 1: as a kid. I like Pennsylvania a bunch, just like 94 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 1: on your own yourself. I took my bindle hobo hopped 95 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:44,359 Speaker 1: onto like a train going east, and I didn't stop 96 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 1: until we ran out of continent. And then I was like, 97 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: back up a state, Take me to Pennsylvania. No, I 98 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: have a cousin. I haven't. I have a whole family. 99 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: But they have a whole family lives in a camp Hill, Pennsylvania, 100 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: which is just near Harrisburg, which is the capital of Pennsylvania. 101 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: So I would be there hanging out around the same 102 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: time that the star of today's story was just getting 103 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 1: out of prison where he'd been spending his time for 104 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: fixing the state lottery. And now I'd like to introduce 105 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: you to the former host of Bowling for Dollars and 106 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: the hero of our day, Nick Perry. Nick Perry, that's 107 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 1: not his government name. Government name was Nicholas Perry Katson Faunas. 108 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:24,840 Speaker 1: He was Greek. Yeah, yeah, heeded. The dude was a 109 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 1: World War Two veteran navy man, tough guy, you know, 110 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: like actual, you know, Assault of the Earth gets back 111 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: from the war and he's like, what am I gonna do? 112 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: It's a new country. You know, I'm gonna get involved 113 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: in this radio I think I got a good voice 114 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: for radio, gets involved. Then there's a new medium that 115 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: pops up called television. He's like, hey, I'm gonna bounce 116 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: over to that. So he starts working at the television 117 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 1: station from Pittsburgh, gets a job and he's hosting a 118 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: live televised Polka party. Yeah. First television station of Pittsburgh's like, 119 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: you know what, we need live polka? So this is about, 120 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: you know, nineteen fifty Okay. In night he gets hired 121 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: to become this new thing that's been invented called a 122 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: TV announcer. He's like, yeah, I'm gonna be this guy 123 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: I announced And they're like, okay, that's cool. What are 124 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: you and that stuff on TV? Talking about it? So 125 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: I guess his job at Pittsburgh station w T A E. 126 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: Now w T A E. This is where he becomes 127 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: what you might call Pittsburgh famous. This is where he 128 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: gets his shows. The two most popular shows in Pittsburgh 129 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: television at the time, Bowling for Dollars and Championship Bowling. 130 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: He's a bowling guy. Oh big, Now can you guess 131 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: what Bowling for Dollars was? Like? I think I think 132 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: they may have had a version out here. I believe 133 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: I remember when I was a little kid. One it's 134 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: stayed a popular idea. Yeah in the so I don't know, 135 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: I don't I just remember the name of it. I 136 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: don't remember the show itself. Imagine family feud with no 137 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: questions and instead bowling balls. So they're just like your 138 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: families competing a bowling man. So it's just like semi 139 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: pro bowling. It's like amateurs. But then they also have, 140 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: like you know, they have the whole fani le vibe, 141 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: like come on, mom, pick up that seven tent split 142 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: all right, exactly, and it's just visiting. Well, is it's corny. 143 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: I'll admit it's totally corny, and it's a lot of 144 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 1: fun to watch. We'll we'll put up a clip on 145 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: Instagram so you can see what this looks like. It 146 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: is worth it just for the fashion a loan because 147 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: the clips were gonna put up. Or from the seventies, 148 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: which is love It, Love It great oranges greens you 149 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: haven't seen since then. So now you can imagine Pittsburgh 150 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: in the nineteen seventies. You this guy Nick Perry, He's 151 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: been a fixture in the Pittsburgh scene for a while, 152 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 1: and we get into the seventies and Pittsburgh's cooking along 153 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: even though everything's not really going well for the city 154 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 1: in terms of the steel industry is shutting down, so 155 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:44,199 Speaker 1: it's a hard time for this, you know, industrial city, 156 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: this blue collar city. Nick Perry is there for the people. 157 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: He keeps them Pittsburgh proud, got it right now, Just 158 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: give you a sense of this. When he would go 159 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 1: on to his show, he loved to like play up 160 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: as being a TV announcer. He made sure that he 161 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 1: was brought on with the right flair. So he had 162 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 1: this this catchphrase you would always hear, and they say, 163 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: it's the man with all the dollars, the kingpin himself, 164 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: Nick Perry, right, just the cheesy right now. The newspeople 165 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 1: at the station, they still love this guy. He was like, 166 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: you know, not he's you know, not a hard journalist, 167 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: but he's not just like a hand that. They're like, oh, 168 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 1: that's totally one of the crew. And they love him 169 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: because he loves Pittsburgh and Pittsburgh loves him. The news 170 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: anchor Stu Emery at w t A, it's such a 171 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: good news anchor name do you remember here with the 172 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: traffic on the fives we'll be back with weather. His 173 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:45,839 Speaker 1: real name is like Philibert FT News, so Philibert FT. 174 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 1: He said, and I quote Nick Perry was very Pittsburgh, 175 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: and he was very Pittsburgh and his questions and the 176 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 1: kind of people who were on the show. He was 177 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: down to earth and humorous and fun and his strong 178 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 1: personality came through and he was just about his dapper 179 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: and restaurant as I had seen. All right, Yeah, we 180 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: put a little more on Pepper on this also a 181 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: dapper dresser now w t A E News director Joe 182 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: Raveto he also had something to say about the what 183 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: we call the essence of Nick Perry. Joe Rovito said, 184 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: and I quote Nick became a local star with bowling 185 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: for dollars. That was his real breakthrough to the public. 186 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: He did a beautiful job with it. He was very knowledgeable, 187 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: a bowling enthusiast. He took it all very seriously. It 188 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:28,839 Speaker 1: was a big deal of him, and he was a 189 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 1: very conscientious guy. As a reporter, anchor and host of 190 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:34,559 Speaker 1: that program. Knows he calls him a reporter because he 191 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: talks to people. Yeah, reporter. Now during the seventies, as 192 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: I said, he becomes this beloved figure the city needs him. 193 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: He loves Pittsburgh bowling for dollars. To give you a 194 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 1: sense of this, it was regularly drawing more viewers during 195 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 1: its nighttime broadcast than the nighttime news at the time 196 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: on all of the other stations. Yeah, that's they're like, 197 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 1: we don't need to know what Gerald Ford said about inflation. 198 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 1: Just give us this of intense splits exact escap Nick 199 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: Perry also would turn to the people of Pittsburgh who 200 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: go out there, give them some love. They give him 201 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: some love that I kind of like to picture it 202 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: like you've seen Anchorman, the Will Ferrell movie. So swap 203 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: San Diego for Pittsburgh news anchor for bowling for dollars, 204 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: and you basically got the vibe. That's what it sounds like. Okay, 205 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 1: So in V one we get our big complication, the 206 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:27,959 Speaker 1: Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. They decided to snatch business away from 207 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: all the mobbed up numbers runners. And they say, you 208 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 1: know what, we can do this, We can do bad 209 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: all by ourselves. So they come up with the Pennsylvania 210 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: State Lottery. Now this is a thing at the time. 211 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 1: A lot of the numbers and for those who don't 212 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: know numbers, Elizabeth is a game where somebody would basically 213 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: draw random numbers and then everybody in the community they 214 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: would be guessing what those numbers would be right every day, 215 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: and so this was what the lottery replaced. It was 216 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 1: basically the local numbers game, and you had you go 217 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 1: to your numbers guy and tell the numbers you think 218 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: you're gonna win. And the numbers were picked usually from 219 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 1: like either a racetrack, how the finishes of horses went, 220 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: or some something in the newspaper. It would be something 221 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: that nobody could control, so that way everybody could see 222 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: whatever is occurring. Well, the lottery needs this same type 223 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:11,319 Speaker 1: of thing, so they decide, you know what, We're gonna 224 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: do a TV show and we'll broadcast the numbers. And 225 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:16,719 Speaker 1: so they have this nightly broadcast that will show the 226 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: winning numbers as their drawings, so everybody can see it 227 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: at the exact same time and they know nothing hanky 228 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 1: going on, right, So who do you think they pick 229 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 1: to host this show? Did w T A S. Nick Perry? Ye? 230 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:31,559 Speaker 1: So Nick Perry, he's selected as the announcer at this 231 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: farmer World War two veteran. This he's also, by the way, 232 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: a like a Sunday School kind of guy. He he's 233 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:42,079 Speaker 1: a choir leader at his church, like Salt of the Earth. 234 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 1: Good guy. Right, And three years later a grand jury 235 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:49,199 Speaker 1: would determine that Pennsylvanias should bring charges against Nick Perry 236 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 1: for colluding to rig the state lottery. So had what 237 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: happened in this time? And now I'd also like to 238 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: point out that this dude had the rank to merity 239 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:03,199 Speaker 1: to rig the lottery and to rob the lottery live 240 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 1: on the air. Oh right, allegedly all allegedly, but I 241 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 1: guess I would say allegedly, because so he did it. 242 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 1: He did it, the state says. So, now, after this 243 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: short break, we'll get into the triple six fix of 244 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:40,319 Speaker 1: the Pennsylvania lottery. He doesn't do you like to play 245 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 1: the lottery? Z babies? Uh? You know I always talked 246 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: to people about how I've talked to everyone random I stopped. 247 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 1: People know I always wants to talk about the lottery. 248 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: I've said many many times. I have this plan if 249 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 1: I won the lottery, like how I would divvy up 250 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 1: the money. And I don't want it to get into 251 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: it now proprietary information, but I'd be really good at 252 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 1: winning the lottery if I ever bought a ticket, thoughts 253 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: you just said about to ask you have these plans, 254 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:12,719 Speaker 1: but do you play? No, you can't win if you 255 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: don't play. That's that the ads tell me, yeah, right now. 256 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: And then they'll say like warning, you know, if you 257 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: have a gambling problem, don't do this. Do you have 258 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: a gambling problem? Is that way? You don't do it? No? 259 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 1: I don't know. Okay, Well for you, those are the 260 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: people who don't know about lotteries. They have various ones. 261 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 1: There's the scratch off kids, right, and then there's like 262 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: the the weekly draws, like the Mega millions where you 263 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: pick six numbers, and then there are smaller lotteries. They 264 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: are more based on what I was talking earlier about 265 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: the numbers game, where they have what's called the daily 266 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: Number or the daily draw. Right. So the daily draw, 267 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: a person goes in Pennsylvania, at least they go and 268 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: they buy a ticket, and they can spend between fifty 269 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: cents and five dollars on this ticket, and then they 270 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: can pick a certain amount of numbers based on how 271 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 1: much they spend, and they get to pick three numbers, 272 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: so the numbers between zero and nine and the order 273 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 1: of the numbers matters. So if you put three, one, 274 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: four and the numbers are one four three that are drawn, 275 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 1: you don't win. It's got to be exactly the way. 276 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: So there's there's two forms. It's the numbers and the order. 277 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: Right at one minute before seven pm every night, Nick 278 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: Perry and a local senior citizen go onto the w 279 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 1: t a E set and they appear on screen and 280 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: the senior citizen gets to select at random the numbers. 281 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: And keep in mind the senior also gets picked at 282 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: random from all of the area senior citizen's homes. They 283 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: don't go and pick the most like charismatic, They just 284 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: pick citizens at random and they put them on TV 285 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: Summer Winners Summer completely. You should look up on YouTube 286 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: w t A E. Daily. Yesterday, I'll put up one 287 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: clip of the moment when the rigging occurred, and you 288 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 1: can see the how it goes. How it so this 289 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: randomly selected senior citizen who gets to go up there 290 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: and randomly select the balls. They're supposed to stand there 291 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: as the balls are and if you've seen this, they'll 292 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: be in like a clear like bubble and they'll be 293 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: bouncing around. And so for this one, each number has 294 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: its own bubble. So there's zero, three, nine balls and 295 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: each one they're all jumbling around and all of a 296 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 1: sudden once shoots up to the top. And the senior 297 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: citizen is in charge of turning it around to the 298 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: camera can see it, which is not the job I'd 299 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: give them, but you know, it works out for some 300 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: great fun. And when you watch now, if you have 301 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: all three winning numbers and you get them in the 302 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: order they were selected, you could win five hundred dollars 303 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: for every dollar you bet. So the most you can 304 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: win is two dollars from two thousand five day. Sorry, 305 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: quickly redo my math there. Yeah, you load up your 306 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: tickets all right now. If you don't, you dots you 307 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: get the two anyway. So lottery officials in the TV station, 308 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 1: everybody's taking these daily drawings very seriously. There's millions of 309 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: dollars riding on it, right. So the machines they get 310 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: locked up after each drawing. They have like a whole 311 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 1: special space. They're locked up in the space that has 312 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 1: two keys required to open the lock, just like a 313 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: nuclear submarine watching nukes. The Pennsylvania Lottery official they had 314 00:16:57,360 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: a turn a key. The w C A E. People 315 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: turn a key. And also, by the way, the official 316 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:04,400 Speaker 1: would regularly, the state official lottery official would regularly visit 317 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 1: w t A, and they would check the machines, check 318 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: the balls, and make sure everything was up to code. 319 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 1: I bringing up up to stuff. They take the locks. 320 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:13,679 Speaker 1: So they didn't know when these periodic inspections would be. 321 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 1: They don't know when the ball checkers are coming exactly. 322 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:18,400 Speaker 1: Nobody knows when someone's gonna show up going. I'm here 323 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: to check your balls, totally totally random the States balls. Meanwhile, 324 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: by the way, since you were focus on the balls, 325 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 1: the State's balls, they were measured in wide and determined 326 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 1: always to be exactly. Can you guess how much would 327 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 1: it be a pink pong ball? Ways, no, good guess? 328 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 1: One point seven five milligrams. Now, for comparison sake, a 329 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:39,479 Speaker 1: dollar bill weighs about a gram, So it would take 330 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: about five hundred and seventy lottery balls to weigh them 331 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: same amount as one dollar bill. That's how light these 332 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: things are, five hundred and seventy of them anyway, so 333 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: they made sure that they all were exactly the same weight. 334 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 1: Close good guess? Good guess? Well, I can tell you 335 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 1: about it now it's not gonna be easy to rig 336 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: a lot of getting ahead of it's fun. Don't mind 337 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:02,719 Speaker 1: your getting ahead yourself. The science is there to ponder. 338 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: It is right there before us, which is how are 339 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 1: you going to get these balls? And you've got a 340 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 1: senior citizen working as like your helper as your stage assistant. 341 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: Can't be something that they're gonna mess up. So what 342 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: do you do to rig this? Right now? Nick Perry, 343 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: He's like, okay, I got an idea for big pay day. 344 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 1: We rigged the lottery. Now he's facing the same question 345 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 1: you're asking. He's like, but how do I do it? 346 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 1: He's like, okay, and you know what I need? First? 347 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:30,120 Speaker 1: A money man. So he's like, okay, I'm gonna get 348 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: two for the price of one. He happens to have 349 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 1: these two childhood friends. They're called the Moragos Brothers. The 350 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 1: Morogos Brothers are a pair of like basically Greek small 351 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 1: time hoodlums, and they're Peter and Jack Moragos. They run 352 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 1: a cigarette vending machine business with Nick Perry. So they 353 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: take Nick Perry's legitimate money and they run it through 354 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 1: this vending machine business and they, you know, they get 355 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 1: a little business juice. Right. So he comes and he's like, hey, guys, 356 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: I got a new business venture. They're like, tell us 357 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 1: all about it, Nick, and like how they've gone. How 358 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:04,640 Speaker 1: Nick has gone from like hey, everybody do He's got 359 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 1: two faces. So this Nick Perry, he goes, okay, you guys, 360 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 1: you're down, and they're like, we do business. We trust 361 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 1: you. You You say it's a good idea, We're gonna do it. 362 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 1: We're in. So he's like, okay, I got my I 363 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: got my money. Man. So then he goes, okay, now 364 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: what else do I need? I need an inside guy. 365 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,159 Speaker 1: So he's like, okay, this is gonna get difficult, this 366 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: is risky. This is where I can all. I can 367 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: blow it all right here, so I gotta be smart 368 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: about this. It's like, okay, I know who I need. 369 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 1: He goes and sidles up to fifty two year old 370 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 1: Pennsylvania Lottery official Edward Level, like, hey, man, looking good 371 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: in them chinos today? You ever thought about some bell bottoms? 372 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 1: With those? I can get you in a green number. 373 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 1: He's just sexually harassing him. Okay, you fill up the 374 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 1: bell bottomed boy, get you a turtleneck. Looking good anyway. 375 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: So this dude Edward Plevel. He's essentially the security guard 376 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: who's in charge of guaranteeing these machines have nothing going 377 00:19:57,880 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: wrong with them at the ball's way exactly one point 378 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: seven five milligrams. And so going to him is that's 379 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: the move right? Clevels like you wanta do what? Hey? 380 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: I like it? Plevels into it. He wants to get right. 381 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: So he's like, okay, now I got my money guy, 382 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 1: I got my inside guy. I need a fixer. I 383 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,679 Speaker 1: need a tech specialist. So who can make this all happen? 384 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 1: Nick Perry turns to someone friend of the show close 385 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 1: to him. He's like, hey, the w t a e 386 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: art director. I was thinking this, Oh look at you, 387 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: criminal mastermind. So Joseph Back, the art director and renowned 388 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 1: for his hands painting, really good with hand painting, especially 389 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 1: the campagnted letters and so forth, and which is as 390 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 1: an art we've discussed. Perry sidles up to Joe Back 391 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:45,439 Speaker 1: one day. He's a gay man, how you doing? I 392 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 1: really like that leather Jackie harassing everybody where? Did you 393 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: get them shooting? He's like, hey, man, what would you 394 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,159 Speaker 1: say if I told you I could? You could make 395 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:00,439 Speaker 1: a hundred thousand dollars. Joe back looks him up and 396 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 1: down in the most Pennsylvanu way possible. He listening me, says, 397 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 1: who do I have to kill? Oh? I think that 398 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: it was going to be an indecent proposal. I ain't 399 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 1: laying down for this one. But someone's gone out. So 400 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: he's like, all right, I can make a hundred the 401 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: easy way or the hard way with no wet work. Okay. 402 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 1: So he's into it. He's like, what do I gotta do? 403 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: He's like, I want you to swap some balls. He's like, swapa, 404 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: this is getting a little interesting. Nick, what kind of 405 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: balls are we talking here? And he's like, I'll come 406 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 1: back to the gutter yea, and show me those pants again. 407 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: Spin around. He drops one of the balls on purpose 408 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 1: and take it up a little smack on the tish. 409 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: So Nick Perry, he gives Joe Buck a scale and 410 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:48,959 Speaker 1: he goes, Okay, I need you to go buy thirty 411 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 1: ping pong balls. I want you to weigh them. Just 412 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 1: go to any sporting good store, paint them to match 413 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 1: the official lottery balls. You gotta number the seven, the eight, 414 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: and nine to match exactly, and you won't be able 415 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 1: to take home an example, so you have to do 416 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,880 Speaker 1: it for memory. And he's like, bro hand painted letter 417 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:06,159 Speaker 1: is my jam I got this? So Joe back, He 418 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 1: takes the thirty ping pong balls, he takes the scale, 419 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: He goes home, and he gets to work. Now, of 420 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: course it's gonna acquire a little experimentation. He's like, how 421 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: am I gonna do this? So he tries, like, first, powder, 422 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 1: seems like, maybe I can put a powder coating on 423 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 1: it and I'll make the balls different the way, different amounts. 424 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: That doesn't work. He's like, how about an applicate. Maybe 425 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 1: I can put like an applicat on there that like 426 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 1: the sticker is heavy. That doesn't work. He's like, I 427 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 1: got it white latex paint, right, basically house paint. He's like, 428 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna his house paint. So he injects the ping 429 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:38,679 Speaker 1: pong balls with latex paints and then paints the outsides 430 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 1: and so he can make the fake balls. They would 431 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 1: all still bounce and jumble around in the machine, but 432 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: they won't. Only one ball will be lighter than all 433 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: the other nine, Like, there's nine balls in there. I 434 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: guess ten balls in there. There nine and then he 435 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,120 Speaker 1: has one ball that's not waited, so all the rest 436 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 1: they will bounce around and float because there he has them. 437 00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 1: He's been experimenting make sure that they will bounce around. 438 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: Only one has the lightness to make it to the 439 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 1: t C. I was thinking like he would maybe paint 440 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 1: the numbers on there with like he'd put some sort 441 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: of metal into the paint and make it heavier paint. Oh, 442 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: that's a really good idea. Yeah, they did not go 443 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: with metal paint. They just decided to. They didn't call me, no, 444 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: they really should have. Unfortunately you weren't born, so that 445 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 1: is part of the that was a little difficult. So anyway, 446 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 1: they decide add weight to nine of the ten balls 447 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,400 Speaker 1: in each machine, and they pick weight. We can't do that. 448 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: We've got to let there be two balls because if 449 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 1: it's just one ball, it'll be very obvious. So we'll 450 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: mix up two balls. And then the odds are basically 451 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 1: only a few combinations. So they pick the four and 452 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: six balls to not doctor and they don't do the rest. 453 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: So now they're only eight combinations that could possibly be 454 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 1: the winning combinations for those like yourself and I with 455 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 1: the math skills. We have. The combinations end up being 456 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: triple four four four six four six four or four 457 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 1: six six, or they are six four four six four 458 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: six six six four and lastly the best combo triple 459 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 1: six six six six, the winning numbers of the beasts exactly. 460 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 1: So now all this left to do is purchase some 461 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: lottery tickets to it. So the Moragos brothers now come 462 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 1: back into the picture. So if they go and they 463 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 1: meet up Nick at the local St. Nick's Orthodox Church, 464 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,120 Speaker 1: because that's for all the good criminal conspiracies go down. 465 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: He's like, meet me in a pu seven. So they 466 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:21,880 Speaker 1: slide on behind the pew behind them, they start talking 467 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 1: about how to buy tickets. They exchange for like their 468 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:27,880 Speaker 1: cigarette concession business profits and here's your recent payments. He's like, okay, 469 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 1: here's the plan. Keep the profits, go buy a bunch 470 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:32,920 Speaker 1: of lottery tickets. They're like, oh really. He's like yeah, 471 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,160 Speaker 1: but hey, we're gonna do this like real LaCOSA Nostra 472 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 1: mafia stuff. Spread it out. Be smart about to go 473 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:39,919 Speaker 1: to one person and buy ten thousand dollars worth of tickets. 474 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 1: It's like, okay, okay, we're gonna go to Philly. He's like, 475 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 1: wait minute, you gonna go to Philly. Why did you 476 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:45,919 Speaker 1: go to Philly. That's Nicky Scarfolk's place. Don't go to 477 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 1: Phillies Like, that's why they'll think it's the mob. They'll 478 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: put it on Nicky Scarfolks. Brilliant. He's like, actually that's 479 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: pretty good. Pittsburgh may come back to us. Go to Philly. 480 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 1: They're gonna go to Philly and buy up all the 481 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: tick sets now to maximize their score. The Morago's brothers 482 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 1: smart hoodlumps they are. They're like, okay, how about we 483 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,679 Speaker 1: take out a bank loan and really out here. So 484 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 1: they take out a twenty dollar bank loan. Don't tell 485 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:10,959 Speaker 1: Nick Perry. They go and buy a bunch of more tickets. 486 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 1: Now they got this extra twenty grand and all the 487 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 1: money Nick Perry front of them. And they go and 488 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 1: they pile into their giant white Cadillac because nobody's gonna 489 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 1: remember that, and they tour around the Filly area and 490 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: they buy up all the lottery tickets that they can afford. 491 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 1: Do you think they did like method acting or like, 492 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 1: you know, I just imagine that they get out of 493 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: the car and they go into the little convenience store 494 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,880 Speaker 1: and their play their play acting, like oh, someone told 495 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 1: me I should play the lottery. I never do this. 496 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 1: Let me buy. I don't know how many should maybe two. 497 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 1: My grandpappy sent me down here to buy some lottery tickets. 498 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,160 Speaker 1: I don't know anything about it, but his favorite numbers 499 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 1: are four and six. Could you help me figure them out? 500 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: And they just keep doing this, and then they have 501 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: to wear costumes and disguises from shop to shop. I 502 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,479 Speaker 1: wish they did that. You're gonna be so disappointed with 503 00:25:56,520 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 1: what they actually did. Oh yeah, So they purchased fourteen 504 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 1: dollars in one dollar tickets and they're now looking at 505 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,399 Speaker 1: basically about a four point two million dollar come up 506 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,919 Speaker 1: if the tickets hit, and they will hit because it's fixed. 507 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: So yeah, exactly. So later on in that same day 508 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:14,679 Speaker 1: there will be the daily draw because they have to 509 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 1: get the tickets for that same day. So they're all 510 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,160 Speaker 1: trying to get this all done before the seven o'clock draw. 511 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,879 Speaker 1: They get it all done, and that's when Nick Perry 512 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,399 Speaker 1: steps onto the w t a E Set, ready to 513 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: do his part to rig the state lottery. Everyone else 514 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 1: has done their parts, it's time for Nick Perry. He 515 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 1: catches SIGHTE a lottery official, Ed Plevil lottery official gives 516 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 1: him the nod exactly a lot of the sting. He's like, okay, 517 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 1: gives them the nose swipe. They use the two keys. 518 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: They unlocked the lottery machine storage area. They am so nervous. 519 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 1: Right now, we o the machines up to the TV 520 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:53,360 Speaker 1: station set plevel. He leaves the machines and the balls unattended, just, 521 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 1: you know, just walks away. I gotta go move my car. 522 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 1: He's gone for thirty minutes now. Normally they bring the 523 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,679 Speaker 1: senior citizen on to the set to practice during this 524 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: time with the machines while the cameras are on. Instead, 525 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 1: they don't. They leave the senior citizen in the green 526 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:08,880 Speaker 1: room for the full thirty minutes. Nobody tells her what's 527 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 1: going on, so she's just sitting and there, confused, like 528 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 1: what's coming now? Que Joe back in action. The art 529 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 1: director does his part. Joe back passes the weighted balls 530 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,639 Speaker 1: to a stage hand and asked the stage hand to 531 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 1: put the doctor balls into the machine. Possibly a mistake, 532 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 1: possibly not change out. The stage hand is in on it. 533 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 1: He's been contacted, so box the stage hand act fast. 534 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 1: He's like, I need a guy to help me. So 535 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 1: they make their move, they get the balls in, they 536 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 1: swap out the other balls. Everything's going huge pay days 537 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: lined up for everybody involved to pull it off. Nobody 538 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 1: sees them. Now we are a few minutes before seven pm. 539 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 1: It's time for the daily Draw. If you can believe it, 540 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 1: can you guess how many people are watching? Oh like 541 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:52,120 Speaker 1: nine million people, very close six six million people. Six 542 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,360 Speaker 1: million people tune in to watch those lotty numbers, which 543 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 1: is more than all the other news stations are getting 544 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 1: at this time. So every most to Pittsburgh that is 545 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: watching TV at this time is watching this event. And 546 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,919 Speaker 1: now wait a second, this is a state lottery, state lottery, 547 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,399 Speaker 1: so this is actually all over that's just at the station. 548 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 1: There's six million. It's just six million people watching this station, 549 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: and that so that it's broadcast at other stations, broadcast 550 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:16,679 Speaker 1: throughout yest it. I'm slow good, don't cool with it. 551 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 1: So now the daily draw. They had the local senior citizen. 552 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 1: I told her she's waiting in the green room. Well, 553 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 1: her name is Violet Lowry, and they say, Violet Lowry, 554 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 1: could you please come up to the set, And so 555 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 1: she was like okay, she calls on up there, so 556 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:34,160 Speaker 1: we have viol Lowry creeping up to the set. Joe 557 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,439 Speaker 1: Buck is on the and the wings watching, the stage 558 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 1: hand is watching. Nick Perry is waiting on the set 559 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 1: for her to get there. She's the last piece of 560 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: this puzzle. All she has to do is take the 561 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 1: weighted balls and turn them around in the right order. 562 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 1: And after this quick break, I'll tell you what happens 563 00:28:47,800 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 1: when she steps onto the Okay, Elizabeth, yes I left you. 564 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 1: We were at the W T A E. Set. The 565 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 1: tensions were hot. Oh I am on pins and needles 566 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 1: this whole all those ads played and it went on 567 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 1: for a really long time, and the pins and the 568 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 1: needles have been puncturing my bed. D Well, I'm here 569 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: to relieve you of that pain and anxiety. Thank you. 570 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 1: I want you to picture it. Oh, yes, close your eyes. 571 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: Eighties something year old Violet Lowry arrives on set. She 572 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 1: shows up ready to pick some numbers. She's there for 573 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 1: the balls. She's escorted from the green room, where she 574 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 1: has been asked to wait for half an hour. Finally 575 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 1: it's six. Someone takes herund to the set. The stage 576 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 1: hand rolls the large lottery machines into play. Nick Perry 577 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: stands off stage, ready to do his bit, waiting for 578 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: ast two. At sixty nine, the announcer goes to work. 579 00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 1: It's the man with all the dollars, the king pit himself, 580 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 1: Nick Perry, Lottery official Ed plevel leads Violet Lowry to 581 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 1: the lottery machines. The machines kick on on the bubble. 582 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 1: The balls start going. There's all this frenetic action. The 583 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 1: fans are kicked to life and everything that. Everyone's excited. 584 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 1: The ping pong balls bouncing against each other. What's gonna happen? 585 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 1: The balls start to lift on this currents of air. 586 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 1: They're all jumbling around. Looks perfectly normal. Then, as Nick 587 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 1: Perry explains the game to those watching, I quote, good 588 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 1: evening everyone, It's time for the live drawing up the 589 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: daily number Thursday. Each of our three machines contains ten balls. 590 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 1: Numbers zero to nine will draw one digit from each machine. 591 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 1: Now mix the balls in the first machine and the second, 592 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 1: and now the third machine. Drawing tonight will be Senior 593 00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 1: Citizen bio Let Lowry are supervising comes of a state 594 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 1: Lottery Security Officials District Manager Ed Plebo. Violet Lowry watches 595 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 1: the doctor balls jumping around and tumble. She looks a 596 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 1: little intimidated. The first ball lists up the shoot and 597 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 1: Will kind of goes do it. She lives over. She 598 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 1: twists the number around and she shows, oh, it's a six, 599 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:21,479 Speaker 1: and now Violet draw the first digit please sex, and 600 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 1: the second digit six, and now the third digit six, 601 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 1: and there you have it. Pennsylvania's daily lottery number is 602 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:37,479 Speaker 1: six six six. If you've got it, come and get it. 603 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 1: If not, better luck tomorrow. Just like that, the lottery 604 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 1: had been robbed. Is the winner. Nick Perry and his 605 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 1: group they all go excited. They've done it. They've rigged 606 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 1: the state lottery. They're all about to be millions of 607 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 1: dollars richer, and six million people watched them do it 608 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 1: at home, and Hazels like, oh my god, I just 609 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 1: unleashed the beast. I pulled six six six, like I's 610 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 1: in there with like holy water. No one's going to 611 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 1: talk to her after that. I can't. My church group 612 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 1: will not. Something was going to happen to Hazel when 613 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 1: you were doing your little story. I didn't mean to worry. 614 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 1: Yeah it's okay, so Edd plebble. He goes and re 615 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 1: secures the machines, they take the two keys, they lock 616 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 1: it back up. Now, just before that, he had to 617 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 1: have enough time for Joe Bach to slide in there, 618 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 1: grab the Doctor Balls machines, switch back in the original balls, 619 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 1: and then make his escape. Allows us to have a 620 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 1: couple of moments for him to do that. Then they 621 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 1: lock up the machines. So now Joe back, he takes 622 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 1: the Doctor Balls home. He piles the balls into an 623 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 1: empty paint can sets them all on fire, destroying any evidence. 624 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 1: Smart dude, Right, yeah, that's good. We've gotten rid of 625 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 1: at least one of the So now it's time to 626 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 1: collect the winnings. The Marago's brothers re into the picture. 627 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 1: They climb back in their land yard. The giant white 628 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 1: caddy cruise on over to Philly looking to pick up 629 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 1: their money, and the brothers they drive around collecting their 630 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 1: cash pay days. And then they come back to Pittsburgh 631 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 1: and they meet in the cemetery and they secretly meet 632 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 1: Nick Perry and they give him the first part of 633 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 1: his cut. Now, do you know where they were picking 634 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 1: up the pay They didn't. They wouldn't. They have to 635 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 1: go to the state capitol, to an office somewhere or 636 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 1: local lottery tickets, so yeah, they could do. They go 637 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 1: to the store where they bought it in the store 638 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 1: has to pay it up. I don't know if the 639 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 1: store had to pay it up. But they went around 640 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 1: collecting and so in all the news stories seemed that 641 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 1: they were getting from the stores, there's like local lottery offices. 642 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 1: I think maybe maybe there were local lottery I did 643 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 1: not look into who they are actually redeeming the tickets 644 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 1: with a scale. Yeah, and I know you're into like 645 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 1: the paperwork. I was just like to get the money, 646 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 1: all right. So they bring him thirty five tho dollars 647 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 1: in a brown paper bag and they handed to him 648 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 1: in a cemetery, you know, like, here's your first cut. 649 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 1: This will just be one of many envelopes to come. 650 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 1: He's like, I got it. And they got a couple 651 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 1: of days to collect their winnings. You don't have to 652 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 1: get it all that the first day. So they're taking 653 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 1: their time, right. No one was the wiser at first, 654 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 1: but someone had noticed, and that someone was named Anthony Gross. 655 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 1: So Gross. Now I want you to know about this man, 656 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 1: Anthony Grosso. He knew something about rig games because he 657 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 1: had served time in prison for racketeering. He later would 658 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 1: serve time after these events for quote, tax evasion and 659 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,319 Speaker 1: violating federal gambling loss. He was what you would call 660 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,840 Speaker 1: a mobster, Big Anthony, Big Anthony, real live mobster, not 661 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 1: part of like the Scarfolk family. But he had been 662 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,720 Speaker 1: legitimately running a numbers game for forty years, a local 663 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,840 Speaker 1: numbers game. And the interesting part is that the Moroco's 664 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:26,879 Speaker 1: brothers thought, you know what, we should rob him while 665 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:30,360 Speaker 1: we're doing this. Yeah, and you know how the brothers 666 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 1: when Pennsylvania created the lottery, what they had done was 667 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,399 Speaker 1: to basically take over the numbers game from the mob. 668 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 1: The mob was pretty much, you know, various mobs, but 669 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 1: it was just say, for the sake of time, the mob. 670 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,360 Speaker 1: They took over all the bookmakers and numbers runners and 671 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:46,799 Speaker 1: they said, okay, hey, how about give us the money? 672 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:48,800 Speaker 1: Were the state and people were like okay, cool. The 673 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 1: mobs like no, no, no, no. How much do they pay? 674 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,320 Speaker 1: And when you win? Is it one of those education 675 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 1: lotteries where they go to senior citizens California's education the 676 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 1: exactly because this part of the look see where the 677 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,319 Speaker 1: money is going? Keeping Violet lotry going. They called her 678 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 1: Hazel it's violent. Violet. Yeah, sorry, sorry violent, she's not 679 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 1: here to hear it. So Anthony grows our real live 680 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 1: mobster and he uh and his ilk. They hear that 681 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,280 Speaker 1: the Pennsylvania State Lottery is trying to take over their 682 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 1: millions of dollars industry. They're like, what are those mooks doing? Okay, 683 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 1: how much did they pay out? When you win? People 684 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 1: are like, oh, hey, Big Anthony, they pay five dollars 685 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 1: to one. Okay, here's what we're gonna do. We're gonna 686 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 1: pay six. So they run the exact same lottery off 687 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,919 Speaker 1: of the state's lottery numbers and they say, you pick 688 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 1: the numbers and you buy the ticket from us, we'll 689 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:41,400 Speaker 1: pay six one. They turn the state lottery back in legitimate. 690 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 1: So what this means is that the Moroco's brothers knew this. 691 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 1: So they're like, hey, if we go take some of 692 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 1: the mob tickets, we'll get paid six hundred to one 693 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 1: instead of five to one. So they get greedy and 694 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 1: they go and buy mob tickets and then they come 695 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 1: back to them Bob and they're like, hey, pay up. 696 00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 1: Oh that is a recipe for disaster. So Big Anthony 697 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:06,239 Speaker 1: he's like, um, not too into this. He's like, how 698 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 1: how dare these people rob me? Big? Anthony grows, So, 699 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 1: I've been in the numbers games since they will knee 700 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 1: hid to Grasshoper. So he then decides to do what 701 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:17,800 Speaker 1: all mops as you do in a pinch. He turns 702 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:19,800 Speaker 1: to the state and he said, hey, you should investigate 703 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:23,600 Speaker 1: these guys. He goes right to the state. They're totally 704 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:27,279 Speaker 1: using the infrastructure for their benefit, either to ride their 705 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:31,320 Speaker 1: lot of setup or to be their enforcers. That's that's wise, 706 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:39,440 Speaker 1: straight Pennsylvania. Those are guys ding ding Dan. So Anthony grows. 707 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 1: So when that first move fails in the State's like, look, look, 708 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,879 Speaker 1: we don't want people to think that the state. You're 709 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 1: saying it's rigged. We don't have proof of that. We 710 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,839 Speaker 1: can't have people believing it's rigged. This is a new thing. 711 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 1: We think you're a mobster and you watch your game back, 712 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,880 Speaker 1: so why don't you blow anything? Gross was excuse me? 713 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 1: He's like, Okay, it's no problem. I got other avenues. 714 00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 1: So he goes to the journalist. He's like, hey, journalists, 715 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 1: I got a story for you. The state knows that 716 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,480 Speaker 1: the lottery has been rigged, and they don't want to investigate. 717 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,319 Speaker 1: So the journal starts writing about say it's like damn it. 718 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 1: So then now like, okay, they announced a big investigation, right. 719 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,840 Speaker 1: The investigation is basically a show trial. It's not really 720 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 1: intended to do anything. Anthony Grosso is really disappointed in 721 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 1: this development. So Anthony gross So keeps the pressure on, 722 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:22,320 Speaker 1: so he starts a newspaper. So he just keeps basically 723 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 1: funneling stuff because he not only he figures out who 724 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,759 Speaker 1: did it. He knows it was the Morogua's brothers. He 725 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:29,799 Speaker 1: knows who was involved and who took his money. So 726 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:31,960 Speaker 1: he's like, look it's this guy, it's that guy, Go 727 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:37,840 Speaker 1: go follow this paper trail. Finally, in September, newspaper story 728 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:41,879 Speaker 1: from the area reports quote. Allegations that the a drawing 729 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 1: may have been tampered with first surfaced in early May, 730 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,760 Speaker 1: when Anthony Grosso, who has been called the numbers kingpin 731 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,880 Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh by the State Crime Commission, told reporters that 732 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:53,440 Speaker 1: the drawing had been fixed. Organized crime figures had noticed 733 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 1: heavy betting on numbers using the four six combination. After 734 00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,719 Speaker 1: the news stories broke and talk of the triple six 735 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:03,480 Speaker 1: fix spread all across Pennsylvania, all of them, Bob gets interested, 736 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,839 Speaker 1: and of course now the state can't ignore it, so 737 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,879 Speaker 1: they're like, damn it. So the investigators started actually doing 738 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:12,120 Speaker 1: an investigation. Now after doing the fake investigation back in May, 739 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 1: now in September they do a real investigation. They go 740 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,719 Speaker 1: around and they go to a bar club called the 741 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,319 Speaker 1: Do drop in. Oh I like that, man, I knew 742 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 1: you would. Now I have a really quick question. They 743 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,279 Speaker 1: only rigged at the one time, right, yes, ing at 744 00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 1: the one time to get the four million payday. And 745 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,560 Speaker 1: so even if you didn't buy the ticket from the Mob, 746 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,839 Speaker 1: if you took the ticket to the mob, they pay out. 747 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:33,880 Speaker 1: You got to buy a mob. You buy a Mob tickets. 748 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,320 Speaker 1: And did they buy Mob tickets the Mob tickets and 749 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,200 Speaker 1: took it? The Mob said pay us six to one. 750 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,399 Speaker 1: Basically because you rigged the lottery that you're now doing, 751 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,719 Speaker 1: you have essentially Roby got it. They're like, you're gonna 752 00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 1: bring us in on your fix. Yeah, and you're not 753 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,440 Speaker 1: going to bring us in on your fix, you dumb moose. 754 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:53,080 Speaker 1: So the owner of the Dude drop in. He when 755 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,200 Speaker 1: the investigate investigators are making news in the press, he 756 00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,759 Speaker 1: calls the state and he goes, you know, what. There 757 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:02,120 Speaker 1: were these two suspitious man in a big white Cadillac 758 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,160 Speaker 1: who showed up at my place. They bought thousands of 759 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:08,239 Speaker 1: dollars of tickets, which they weren't supposed to do. The 760 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,320 Speaker 1: tickets all had the same combination. It is all for 761 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,200 Speaker 1: us and six is like they're saying in the news. 762 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:14,719 Speaker 1: And then they bought the tickets. But then it was 763 00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:18,239 Speaker 1: the interesting thing was they called somebody and then they 764 00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,799 Speaker 1: held the phone up to the machine so they could 765 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,719 Speaker 1: hear the tickets being printed. And then they spoken some 766 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 1: foreign language over the phone with the person they were 767 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:29,319 Speaker 1: talking to, the foreign language being Greek. So wait, they 768 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,560 Speaker 1: used the phone at the Dude drop in. Can we 769 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,680 Speaker 1: call Nick Perry cell phone? So they say, hey, can 770 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,520 Speaker 1: we use your house phone? I gotta call my boss 771 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 1: real quick. Also, by the way, you get a couple 772 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,040 Speaker 1: of thousand dollars of tickets because we're lazy, We're not 773 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,440 Speaker 1: going to go to a couple of hundreds were remember 774 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,600 Speaker 1: us in our big white caddy. Also, an employee of 775 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,200 Speaker 1: the Dude drop In recalled for the investigators, who then 776 00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,000 Speaker 1: showed up to go what do you have for us? Oh? Yeah, man, 777 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,440 Speaker 1: there's these two guys in a big white Catillac. They 778 00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,839 Speaker 1: had a very memorable platinum blond with them from what 779 00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,440 Speaker 1: I recall. So they're doing everything you're not supposed to do, 780 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,160 Speaker 1: and the state investigators go, hey, do you guys have 781 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 1: a phone records? They're like, oh, yeah, yeah. So they 782 00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:06,960 Speaker 1: pulled up the phone records and the phone call from 783 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:10,240 Speaker 1: the dude drop in goes to Pittsburgh TV station wt 784 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,719 Speaker 1: So the investigators then go him out and immediately arrest 785 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:18,480 Speaker 1: the Moraguos brothers, who then immediately turned state's evidence and 786 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:22,360 Speaker 1: flip on their childhood friend Nick Perry. Charges against the 787 00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:26,440 Speaker 1: Moraguos brothers are dropped, charges that are then filed against 788 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,920 Speaker 1: Joe Bach part director, Ed Plevel, the lottery state official, 789 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,759 Speaker 1: and Nick Perry. The news team at w t a 790 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,600 Speaker 1: E has to break the news while Perry is in 791 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:39,720 Speaker 1: the building, they go, they go with the breaking news. 792 00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:41,799 Speaker 1: While he's there, he can look up and see the 793 00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,680 Speaker 1: monitor like see himself, Like, well, that's not good, and 794 00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,799 Speaker 1: then liked, did he get arrested at the station. Well, 795 00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:49,600 Speaker 1: here's how it plays out. So w t a E 796 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,239 Speaker 1: news director Joe Raveto has to make the tough call. 797 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,560 Speaker 1: He's like, it's news. We gotta run it. It's even 798 00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:56,080 Speaker 1: though he's in the in the building and this will 799 00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,279 Speaker 1: be insensitive, we gotta run it. So they break the news. 800 00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,520 Speaker 1: Nick Perry is there and he based really leaves and 801 00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:04,520 Speaker 1: Sally Wiggins was the anchor at the time, and she's like, 802 00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,840 Speaker 1: he's really nervous and did not want to do it. 803 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:09,640 Speaker 1: Joe Rivito was talking and he's like, look, you gotta 804 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,400 Speaker 1: do it. And I quote, here's how Joe Rivito remembered it. 805 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,120 Speaker 1: I knew he was sitting right upstairs, a guy I 806 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:20,320 Speaker 1: had known worked with. It was a very difficult period personally, professionally. 807 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:22,799 Speaker 1: It was a tough juggling act to do the right thing. 808 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,240 Speaker 1: Because of the fact we were the station that carried 809 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,879 Speaker 1: the lottery, because of the fact we knew Nick, we 810 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:31,200 Speaker 1: felt we had to pursue the story aggressively. It was 811 00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:34,160 Speaker 1: a sad thing because here's a guy. You wipe that 812 00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,920 Speaker 1: off the slate who was a really terrific guy. He 813 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,439 Speaker 1: was a terrific employee. But you can't wipe that off. 814 00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,200 Speaker 1: This one thing has ruined this guy's life. It will 815 00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:44,680 Speaker 1: smear this guy's life. He's done it and I knew 816 00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:46,880 Speaker 1: it that day. So he's like I gotta do the 817 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:50,760 Speaker 1: right thing. They bust him out, so the Morago's brothers. Meanwhile, 818 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,000 Speaker 1: they end up skating on all the charges. Nick Perry 819 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:56,080 Speaker 1: gets arrested, Joe Bak gets arrested, and Level gets arrested. 820 00:41:56,440 --> 00:42:00,360 Speaker 1: Nick Perry. He's tried, convicted, and sentenced to three to 821 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:07,440 Speaker 1: seven years in prison in camp Hill, Pennsylvania. Ed Plevill 822 00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,399 Speaker 1: gets two to seven years for his part. Joe back 823 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,359 Speaker 1: pleads guilty as well. Now, Nick Perry, when he left 824 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,440 Speaker 1: the courthouse, it was hard for his fans to imagine 825 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,799 Speaker 1: at the host of bowling for dollars when rigged the 826 00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:22,120 Speaker 1: state lottery, and he would do it in such beautiful fabrics. 827 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,799 Speaker 1: It was just an insult to the Pittsburgh populace. Now, 828 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,320 Speaker 1: one fan wrote to the local newspaper, and I quote, 829 00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:30,960 Speaker 1: He's like Joan of Arc being burned at the steak. 830 00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,759 Speaker 1: I can't see why sixty three year old man who 831 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,480 Speaker 1: has a good living and is established in the community 832 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,719 Speaker 1: would do something like this. It's like Joan of Arc. Yes, 833 00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,239 Speaker 1: he broke their hearts, so he had visions God told 834 00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,719 Speaker 1: him to rob the lottery. Good It's like I must 835 00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:48,600 Speaker 1: do this for the sake of Pittsburgh. So of course 836 00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:53,040 Speaker 1: there's a movie of this whole ordeal because it's cinematic. Now, 837 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,600 Speaker 1: the film is called Lucky Numbers. It's loosely based on 838 00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,360 Speaker 1: the Nick Perry story. In this case, the guy is 839 00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,560 Speaker 1: a Harrisburg TV weather man and he's not the Pittsburgh 840 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,359 Speaker 1: host of Bowling for dollars. And in the film he's 841 00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,719 Speaker 1: also kind of he's desperate for a big score. Was 842 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,120 Speaker 1: Nick Perry just kind of comes upon the idea? And uh, 843 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,800 Speaker 1: now can you guess who played the Nick Perry figure 844 00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:15,640 Speaker 1: in Lucky Numbers? When was the movie? When the movie 845 00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:19,480 Speaker 1: come out? The movie came out a while back. Oh, 846 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:21,719 Speaker 1: well that that clears it up for me. That's not 847 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,839 Speaker 1: a big in in the theater. So like more than 848 00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:29,680 Speaker 1: thirty years ago, give me a decade the nineties. Okay? 849 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,200 Speaker 1: Uh did it have? Did they film the movie before 850 00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:37,760 Speaker 1: this happened? In? All right? So in the he could 851 00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:42,440 Speaker 1: fly his own plane to the theater. Harrison Ford, no 852 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:52,200 Speaker 1: bigger plane. So Nick Perry gets played in real life 853 00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,520 Speaker 1: by John Travolta in a movie nobody's ever heard of 854 00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:59,879 Speaker 1: movie of his life therebgh. Now, Dick Perry eventually does 855 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,239 Speaker 1: return to where he'd first found fame and acclaim and 856 00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:07,440 Speaker 1: fortune bowling Lanes. The old sponsor for Bowling for Dollars 857 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,840 Speaker 1: was a loyal and true friend was Whisman Bowling Supplies. 858 00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,319 Speaker 1: Whisman Bowling Supplies did not give up on him. They 859 00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,239 Speaker 1: decided to hire him as a salesman. So he got 860 00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:20,560 Speaker 1: a job. And his buddy Robert Whisman, a true true friend, 861 00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:24,279 Speaker 1: tick the once beloved it now disgrace Bowling for Dollars announcer. 862 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,319 Speaker 1: And he said, and I quote, I couldn't have had 863 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,759 Speaker 1: anyone better. He was an asset to the business. Good 864 00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:36,400 Speaker 1: buddies like. Look, they locked up his records. And firstly, 865 00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,440 Speaker 1: I would say, Nick Perry's about his Pittsburgh as the 866 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,680 Speaker 1: three River Stadium. That guy, I just love him. Fun fact, 867 00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,440 Speaker 1: since that fateful day in ninety when Nick Perry and 868 00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,520 Speaker 1: his crew rigged the Pennsylvania State lottery, those same winning 869 00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,200 Speaker 1: numbers have come up. Six six six has come up 870 00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:53,880 Speaker 1: a few times. It's actually come up twenty four different 871 00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:57,040 Speaker 1: subsequent drawings, and every single time the people they call 872 00:44:57,080 --> 00:45:00,480 Speaker 1: it a Nick Perry. In fact, anything six six in 873 00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,480 Speaker 1: certain parts of Pittsburgh and other parts of Pennsylvania is known. 874 00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:06,440 Speaker 1: It's still referred to as a Nick Perry. Everywhere else 875 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:09,440 Speaker 1: it's the number of the Beast, but in Pittsburgh it's Perry. 876 00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:13,560 Speaker 1: He's a beast six six. So Elizabeth, what does our 877 00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,480 Speaker 1: ridiculous takeaway here? You know? I think, well, it's it's 878 00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:18,400 Speaker 1: kind of a funny thing. He did a lot of 879 00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,560 Speaker 1: people dirty, right, so, like the station gave him this 880 00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:23,600 Speaker 1: cool show and everyone loved it. By the way, the 881 00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:27,560 Speaker 1: station lost the lottery to that. They said, you guys 882 00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,960 Speaker 1: can't be trusted to show this anymore, so, you know, 883 00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:34,560 Speaker 1: and then now I'm wondering about the bowling supply guy. 884 00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,239 Speaker 1: What's he skimming off the top? I don't trust this man. 885 00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:40,120 Speaker 1: I noticed this didn't what did the what did the 886 00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:43,160 Speaker 1: news director say? He did it to himself, Like, yeah, 887 00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:47,120 Speaker 1: it's one of those, like I would say, Shakespearean tragedies, 888 00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,680 Speaker 1: but it's kind of well know, you know what it's 889 00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:51,879 Speaker 1: like is it's like Joan of arc Yeah, that's really 890 00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,680 Speaker 1: like that's the best analogy. When before you read me 891 00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:57,120 Speaker 1: that quote, I was like, my it just feels like Jean, 892 00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:05,719 Speaker 1: which who's the dauphin them on fire? My ridiculous takeaway 893 00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:10,280 Speaker 1: would be never ever, And I mean never ever, ever, 894 00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:15,439 Speaker 1: ever rob the mob. Oh yeah, that's all these dudes 895 00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:17,239 Speaker 1: had to do. The Morocco's brothers. If they would have 896 00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,480 Speaker 1: just said, hey, baby, you stay home, we're gonna get 897 00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:21,360 Speaker 1: our rental card. We're gonna go and get some tickets. 898 00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,359 Speaker 1: We'll be back at six o'clock. You know, everything will 899 00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:27,600 Speaker 1: be cool, they're like, no, baby, getting the backut on 900 00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:33,040 Speaker 1: your best for coke, because we're going to Philly to exactly. 901 00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:35,719 Speaker 1: They got the caddie all shined up and they took 902 00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,120 Speaker 1: that love boat for a cruise and they're like, nobody 903 00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:40,200 Speaker 1: will remember this because we're gonna have this day. It's 904 00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:44,640 Speaker 1: so memorable. You know. They decided to get rich on 905 00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:47,880 Speaker 1: all this mob money and they blow it for everyone. 906 00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,760 Speaker 1: But they didn't end up buying anything or do anything. 907 00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:52,839 Speaker 1: They nobody got anything out of this. They get all 908 00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,800 Speaker 1: greedy and then they don't do anything. The greed was 909 00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,000 Speaker 1: just the feeling if I can't It's like it's that 910 00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,800 Speaker 1: idea that your imagination will doom you, either with fear 911 00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,720 Speaker 1: or with greed. On it's your imagination, Like, don't listen 912 00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:08,200 Speaker 1: to that. Let the reality of the mob dictate your decisions. 913 00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:10,719 Speaker 1: Should I rob the mob? I think I'd get away 914 00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,440 Speaker 1: with it. Only the mob can have the mob's money. 915 00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:17,640 Speaker 1: That's the rule of the mob. That's our money. Will 916 00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,840 Speaker 1: kill you for that. So yeah, they're lucky they didn't 917 00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:23,920 Speaker 1: get Oh no, yeah, they got very lucky. Anthony Grosser 918 00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:26,439 Speaker 1: pretty much knew everybody would know with him. So he's like, look, 919 00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:30,200 Speaker 1: they already got embarrassed, and the state's embarrassed. He's using 920 00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:34,520 Speaker 1: the infrastructure for his benefit once again. Let them take 921 00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,720 Speaker 1: care of this. You clean up this stuff, get some garbage, 922 00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,960 Speaker 1: been on this. So the stupid criminals get caught, the 923 00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:43,600 Speaker 1: unlucky ones get caught, and in this case, it was both. 924 00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:47,400 Speaker 1: Oh and before we go, Elizabeth and I wanted to 925 00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,800 Speaker 1: send out a special message to one of our listeners, 926 00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:53,239 Speaker 1: Owen Colms. Your mom, Laura rode into the show and 927 00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:54,719 Speaker 1: she told us you're having a rough go of it. 928 00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,279 Speaker 1: We're sorry to hear that. On She also told us 929 00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,480 Speaker 1: that you have a YouTube channel called the History Kid. 930 00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:02,200 Speaker 1: We'd love to hear that. She says that you recreate 931 00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:05,000 Speaker 1: historic battles. That sounds so cool. We're looking forward to 932 00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:07,680 Speaker 1: checking out your channel. 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