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The Colin Coward Podcast 11 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: presented by the Fan Duel Sports Book. Hi everybody, and 12 00:00:54,840 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: welcome in to the Wednesday Morning Podcast. Super fun guest 13 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: Chandler Parsons, longtime NBA guy who should go into broadcasting, 14 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: is going to be joining me for great storyteller for 15 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,839 Speaker 1: a lot of different discussions today about the NBA playoffs, 16 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: and I want to start with there because the ratings 17 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 1: for the first round were an eleven year ratings high. 18 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 1: Oh my, oh my. Arch conservatives. Alright, conservatives, what are 19 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:31,559 Speaker 1: they to do? The narrative has been punctured. I would 20 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: argue the NBA actually six seeds sometimes despite itself. I 21 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: want to give an example. In hockey, you get a 22 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: lot of upsets for the playoffs because eight seeds can 23 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: beat a one seed, right, because it's all about the 24 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: hot goalie. In college basketball, the number one seeds only 25 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: win sixty three percent of the time. Did you know 26 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: that since they expanded to sixty eight In the NFL, 27 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: number one Tennessee Titans, number one Packers couldn't win a 28 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: single game this year. But in the NBA, in league history, 29 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: the top four seeds, the one and the two in 30 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 1: the East and the West, when eighty nine percent of 31 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 1: the time, and yet ratings continue to be strong. There's 32 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: no upsets. There's virtually no upsets, the opposite of every 33 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: other sport. Think about that. College football's ratings have been 34 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 1: down in recent years because it's two dominated by the SEC. 35 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 1: NBA's ratings up eleven percent. We know Milwaukee and Phoenix 36 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 1: probably get there. In fact, the lowest seeded NBA team 37 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: to ever win the finals, this is kind of funny, 38 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 1: was the ninety four ninety five Houston Rockets. They were 39 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: a sixth seed. They had Drux learn a LaJuan, not 40 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 1: exactly a Cinderella story, and there were champs the year before. 41 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: So despite the fact the NBA and I've been banging 42 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: on this for years, they need to make first round 43 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:18,399 Speaker 1: series three games at most five. Their ratings are up 44 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: incredibly dynamic, and unlike every other professional and college league 45 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: in America, there are no upsets. The favorites overwhelmingly dominate 46 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: eighty nine percent of the time number one and two 47 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: seeds win. That tells me the NBA would be even 48 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: more successful with just a couple of playoff tweaks. Tweaks 49 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 1: not massive changes. Sometimes we fear something that's actually our friend. 50 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: For instance, when you ask people what they're most fearful of, 51 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: it's public speaking and flying. But studies show that planes 52 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: are nineteen times safer than driving a car. How about that? 53 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 1: Think about that. But yet we're terrified about getting on 54 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 1: a plane. I couldn't even tell you the last major 55 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: US carrier with an air disaster. When people are fearful 56 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 1: of the transfer portal, I saw Dick Vital the other 57 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: day railing at the transfer portal. My takeaway was what 58 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: you should fear is if you couldn't transfer. I mean, 59 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: can you imagine if you hired a basketball or football 60 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: coach at an Oklahoma, Kansas, North Carolina duke, and he 61 00:04:54,600 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: didn't leave if coaches made it different a cult on 62 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:04,039 Speaker 1: the administration to get rid of them instead of occasionally 63 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:09,119 Speaker 1: bailing before we want them to the transfer portal first. 64 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: Very few kids are actually transferring, but think about your 65 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: own kids. What if they couldn't transfer? Studies show in 66 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: twenty fourteen, the more young people switched careers early in 67 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 1: their lives, the more money they made later because they 68 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:33,919 Speaker 1: found a better fit. The reason that college football and 69 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: basketball can be a dynamic springboard to the NFL and 70 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: NBA is because kids can bounce around and find the 71 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: perfect coach and the perfect setting and the perfect scheme 72 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: for their talent. We should fear trapping players and trapping coaches. 73 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: I mean, isn't college football better with Lincoln Riley at 74 00:05:55,240 --> 00:06:00,040 Speaker 1: USC Oklahoma will get Brett Venables, He'll be fine. Is 75 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: college football better when Brian Kelly hands a momentum program 76 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,359 Speaker 1: like Notre Dame to a top assistant and he takes 77 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: over at LSU. Great coach, great school. The bottom line, 78 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: mobility is what drives our economy. It makes people more money. 79 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: It gives players better opportunities to succeed. Sports are best 80 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: when the fit is right. Dick VI talent others who 81 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: are fearful of the transfer portal. Now, I'm fearful that 82 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: players and coaches would get stock and trapped with bad 83 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: schemes and bad fits. So I see a judge has 84 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: ruled in favor of ending the mask mandate on planes. 85 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 1: Now you could still wear a mask on planes, or 86 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: you could not wear it. You have the option now 87 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 1: where before you did not. One of the things over 88 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 1: the last two years that COVID has illustrated is that 89 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: a lot of people couldn't handle change. Conservatives Republicans struggled 90 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: being forced to wear a thin mask during the pandemic, 91 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: and now Democrats are overwhelmingly struggling with my ability not 92 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: to wear one on a plane. You can still wear one. 93 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: There's something called the horse shoe theory where people that 94 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: are at the opposite ends of the spectrum eventually meet 95 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: at the bottom and they're both extremists. It's like the 96 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: atheist and the hard extreme orthodox religious person both become extremists. 97 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: They both become the same thing, with just different ideals. 98 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: When I look at all of this COVID discussion and 99 00:07:55,960 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 1: angst the alt right and the zany hollywoo with left 100 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: had become part of the crazy party. It was okay 101 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: to wear him early. It wasn't that disruptive to our lives. 102 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: We didn't know what the hell sort of tsunami this was, 103 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 1: and it's okay now for us to have a choice 104 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: on planes. Reasonable people can deal with change. It is 105 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: kind of shocking to me how many people on both 106 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: sides of the political spectrum can't. Rigidity exists clearly in 107 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: both political parties. Look it up the horseshoe theory. Extremists 108 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: left or right are extremists, all right. Chandler Parsons, nine 109 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: year NBA vet I had brought him on FS one 110 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: the Herd about a month or two ago. He was great, 111 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 1: and so he said, you know, let's go, let's go 112 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: to the podcast space because then you can just swear 113 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 1: and stuff and it's way way better. You can be 114 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: really authentic. So, by the way, you're retired. Don't you 115 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: live in Malibu? You told me I do. Yeah, I'm 116 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 1: out here full time pretty much. So what did you 117 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: do today? Your life today? I played a quick eighteen 118 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: at eight am this morning and at Sherwood, which is 119 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 1: a club that I yeah, came back, came back to 120 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:17,839 Speaker 1: the house, took took a little walk on the beach 121 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 1: with the dogs, and uh, you know what, the big 122 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: the big german. Actually, Dirk is coming over tomorrow night. 123 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: So I got a I got a whole little pickle 124 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 1: ball a little chef night tomorrow night with with Dirk 125 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: and his wife coming over. You to live in a 126 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:34,559 Speaker 1: fricking dream? Can I think the theory at you? I 127 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: want to throw a theory at you, and I just 128 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be right. But this is what 129 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: podcasting's about. So when an international player has a different 130 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:47,439 Speaker 1: journey than a domestic player, I mean, you're a great 131 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 1: high schooler, you go to Florida, you go to the 132 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 1: March Madness, you end up in the NBA. European players 133 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 1: in an academy, they don't have like the college system. 134 00:09:56,160 --> 00:10:00,199 Speaker 1: It's more skill based early and um they are now 135 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 1: MVP MVP MVP international players. So if you look at 136 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 1: the history of international players who have been the best 137 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: player on their team for championship teams or in that 138 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: space and bead joyful verbal Jannis, playful fun a team. 139 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: Many of the great international players when they come to 140 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: our game domestically, the ones that really succeed are not 141 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 1: just great players, they're great leaders. They inspire, they galvanize. Now, 142 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:37,439 Speaker 1: Yokich is different. He's moodier, he's more insular when I 143 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 1: watch them, Chandler as an international player, because I've always 144 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: felt international players it takes a special kind of guy 145 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: to go to another country to come into this space, 146 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 1: be the best player and be totally comfortable leading American 147 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 1: players and being the guy. And with Ki, I'm not 148 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: saying he can't be. But I watched Denver. I never 149 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: feel they're cohesive ever, And I'm thinking to myself, you know, 150 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 1: I watch Yo Kitch. He's moodier, he's more insular, he's 151 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: not as verbal, and he pays more attention to refs 152 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: than teammates at times. And I think, to myself, it's 153 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: not that he's not great. But in your experience with 154 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: international players, does my theory make any sense that it 155 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 1: takes the ones that really succeed, like Tim Duncan they 156 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:29,959 Speaker 1: embrace the system and they have the personality to make 157 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: it work. Yeah, you know, I just think it takes 158 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: them a lot longer to adapt, you know what I mean? 159 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: Like then, in their eyes, they're they're visiting, you know, 160 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: they're they're a it's like a constant road game almost 161 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: for them, until you start getting the cloud now like 162 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: a Luca or like a you know, these guys that 163 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 1: are more charismatic, they're more outgoing Dirk, even Dirk wasn't 164 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: the most outspoken star ever towards really the end of 165 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 1: at all, because I think it was just kind of 166 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:59,079 Speaker 1: took an adjustment period for those guys to get used 167 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: to playing in this eight. They almost, like I said, 168 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 1: they almost felt like a visitor in a way where 169 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: they're coming and they're playing against majority of American guys 170 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: that are from those cities that we're playing in, and 171 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 1: it's almost like you somewhat feel like an outcast when 172 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: you're coming here. Like I played in France when I 173 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 1: was drafted and I was an NBA draft pick playing 174 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: in Cholet, France, I knew nobody. I felt alone. I 175 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: felt like I didn't want to step on anybody's toes 176 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 1: because I was tired. I was on their turf. So 177 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: it definitely makes sense. I think obviously, the you know, 178 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: the more success you have and the earlier you have it, 179 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: I think you're able to kind of get over that. 180 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: And obviously it has a lot to do with your personality, 181 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 1: but I definitely can see your point on that. Yeah, 182 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: it's just Denver just gets unraveled. It is I said 183 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:45,679 Speaker 1: this today on the Herd, is that the younger a 184 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 1: crowd is the louder. It is because young people, they'll 185 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: stay out later, they'll drink more, they'll be more obnoxious. 186 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 1: Let's be honest. At twenty eight, I stood the whole game. 187 00:12:55,800 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: At fifty eight, get the hell sit down, I'm tired, right, Yeah, 188 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 1: Golden State, because they have so much wealth in Silicon Valley, 189 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: many of the best seats are owned by twenty seven 190 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,079 Speaker 1: year old kids. It's true. It's all like their young 191 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: rich tech kids that are there getting hammered, screaming. It's 192 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:15,839 Speaker 1: so when I watch them play Chandler, I'm like, this 193 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: place is the loudest place I've ever seen in the NBA. 194 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: I'm not kidding, doesn't it look now? You tell me 195 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: your experience there, No, I mean it's it's true. Like 196 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 1: you have a good point there as well, Like it's 197 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: it's it's expensive too, So you would think a lot 198 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 1: of most cities, like the young kids can't afford that. 199 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: But yeah, there's a lot of there's a lot of 200 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 1: money there, there's a lot of youth. A lot of 201 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 1: those kids are going out after the games. They're almost 202 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 1: using the game, they're getting using the game as a 203 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: pre game. They're having drinks. And it's a tough place 204 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:45,199 Speaker 1: to play, and that especially with that team too, Like 205 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: they fuel off their crowd too. So it's not like 206 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: one of these cities where, like you know, Oklahoma City 207 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 1: can get loud back and they were, they're good, but 208 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 1: there's there's not only anything to do after the game. 209 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: San Francisco, it's like a pregame spot is the game 210 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:03,719 Speaker 1: and they're routing. Yeah, it's I want to ask you 211 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:06,839 Speaker 1: about the Warriors for a second. So Jordan Pool has 212 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: really emerged as a great player, and I mean he 213 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 1: was twenty eighth pick I mean Chandler. A lot of 214 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: people earlier were like he's not great, Like there were 215 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:18,199 Speaker 1: a lot of people that just didn't buy it. Apparently 216 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: just works his ass off. He's your classic Warrior draft 217 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: develop and now you got Steph Clay Pool. Draymond is 218 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 1: their big, he's small. Andrew Wiggins. So the last few 219 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 1: years when you face this small ball. I watched them 220 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: the other night and I'm like, Denver looked like they 221 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: had tall buildings against like condo complexes. I mean, Golden 222 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 1: States so small. But you know they call it the 223 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: death lineup. What was it like to face it? I mean, 224 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: tell me the challenges. Yeah, Well, defensively it makes it 225 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 1: easier for them too, because they're switching one through five right, 226 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: they're getting out in transition. They're all shooting the three 227 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: except for Draymond pretty much, and they're all interchangeable, so 228 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: that offense is tough. They all can drive the basketball, 229 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 1: and they all get out. They all can shoot, they 230 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: all can handle. There's not really a true big on 231 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: the floor. And Jordan Poole, you got to give a 232 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 1: lot of credits to me. He's the most improved player 233 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 1: in the league. The guy was in the G League 234 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: last year and now he's putting up thirty in the 235 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: playoff games and he's he's having fun, man like he's 236 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: he's he's fueling off the young growd you're talking about. 237 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: He's talking shit, he's getting he's he's doing things well 238 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 1: beyond his years. And I mean, look, obviously, Steff, it's 239 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: still his team. I think right now, you look at 240 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: that team, I think he's the second best player on 241 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: their team. That he brings a dynamic to them that's nuts. 242 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: I know how valuable with Draymond is. I know what 243 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 1: a legend Clay is, Andrew Wiggins an All Star, But 244 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 1: right now, that kid is balling man and he's literally 245 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: allowing them to bring stuff off the bench because they're 246 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: comfortable starting him without like getting hurt. It's crazy. It's 247 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 1: obviously the minute restriction they want stuff in at the 248 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: end of the game, but that his game is giving 249 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: them the freedom to be able to even do that 250 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: by bringing one of the best point guard of all 251 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: time off the off the bench. How do you think 252 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: they match up with Phoenix with Pools emergence. I mean, 253 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: I think that's gonna be the Western Conference Finals. I 254 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 1: think that's that's you know, and it's gonna be a doozy. 255 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: I think Phoenix still has an edge. I think Phoenix, 256 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: you know, especially the way CPS playing. I mean, he 257 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: had an incredible game one two. Uh you know deep 258 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: book Eighten's playing well is Phoenix is deep? They play 259 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: the right way Monty Williams has them there. They're soldiers 260 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: out there. They play so hard, they're tough. I love 261 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: Mkhill Bridges. I think they match up really well. I 262 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: think it'll go to six or seven games, but I 263 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: still will give Phoenix a little bit of the edge. 264 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 1: But man, it's gonna be fun. By the way, Bridges 265 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: is another classic Villanova guy. I'm watching Brunts and the 266 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: other day and I'm like I said on the air, 267 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: I said, give me three Villanova guys on every roster 268 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: and you'll be just fine. They're all coachable. None of 269 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: them were five star, none were one of dones. Did 270 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: you ever play with an Ova guy? I played with 271 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 1: Kyle Lowry my rookie year. He was on the rockets 272 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 1: with me. M Yeah, he was the same, same kind 273 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: of way. He had a little he was a little different, 274 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: I guess, but he's still like he's he's such a 275 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: floor he's like another coach on the on the floor. Right. 276 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:20,160 Speaker 1: That's what Jay Wright recruits. He goes to the Maryland, 277 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 1: the DC Maryland area, and he goes to that sort 278 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: of Jesuit league, good schools, good coaches. The kids have 279 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 1: to play defense. There's no bs. They go to Villanova 280 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: for three years. He demands defense. I mean they had 281 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 1: a player this year whose dad was a cop, got 282 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 1: no scholarship offers, ended up being co Biggie's Player of 283 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:40,640 Speaker 1: the Year, like only Villanova does that. Yeah, yeah, it's impressive. 284 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: I mean a lot of us to do with Jay 285 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:44,239 Speaker 1: Wright and that system and that culture he's created. It's 286 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 1: the guy's a genius and he's well loved and well respected. 287 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: But yeah, their players are just like you want them 288 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: on your team for sure. Hey, hoops fans, don't just 289 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: watch all NBA playoff action, be part of it with 290 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: fan Duel, an official partner of the NBA. 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Okay, 319 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: so you have to give me insight. I'm not bothered 320 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:38,919 Speaker 1: that Kyrie flip fans off. I mean I wouldn't do it. 321 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: I wouldn't give I get people that give me some crap, 322 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 1: but he just I don't give them fuel. I smile. 323 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 1: Is and there is racist stuff. I've heard best stuff 324 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 1: about Utah Boston where it's really crosses the line. But 325 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 1: in your years of getting it, was there ever a 326 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 1: moment Chandler where it's just like, I'm just not in 327 00:19:56,400 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: the mood, I am having an off night. I mean yeah, 328 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 1: and it is. It's funny you say Utah and Boston 329 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 1: those are two like of the legendary shit talking inappropriate 330 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 1: fans where they just they take it a little bit 331 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 1: too far. The Portlands, Oklahoma City the same way like 332 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,199 Speaker 1: those guys. But you know what, I love it. I 333 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 1: think the banter between the fans and the players is 334 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 1: really fun. Obviously every player has a line. And then 335 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 1: if you're struggling in this situation, Kyrie, you obviously played there. 336 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:25,640 Speaker 1: It didn't work out, but and that you know, it's 337 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 1: I understand where he's coming from. Like what would that 338 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 1: that stuff is for social media almost to talk like that, 339 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:33,680 Speaker 1: like you would never talk to You would never tell 340 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 1: Marcus Marty sucks like at a bar, right because he'll 341 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 1: beat you up. He'll beat you up. So it's it's 342 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 1: the fact that they think they can buy a ticket 343 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: and they just have a free for all to say 344 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: whatever they want to players. Isn't exactly fair. But at 345 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 1: the same time, you know, Kyrie, you gotta rise up, 346 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta not react to that because big picture, no, 347 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:58,120 Speaker 1: there's no solution. You lost fifty grand and it's only 348 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: gonna get worse next game. Yeah, I think he's the 349 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 1: best finisher under six four I've ever seen in my life. 350 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: And I've been watching the NBA since seventy two. I 351 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: remember watching sadly Jerry West, Gale Goodrich, and an old 352 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 1: Wilt Chamberlain. That was my first game, and Wilt had 353 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 1: the headband. He wasn't very fast, he didn't jump as 354 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: much in all my in The first great point guard 355 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 1: I saw was tiny Archibald. People won't remember him, but 356 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 1: he played for the Celtics. I think he was number seven. 357 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 1: Calvin Murphy wasn't long after that. I've never seen a 358 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: player like Kyrie, like I don't know if it's quickness. 359 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 1: I mean, he's obviously got a really pure shot. If 360 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 1: I'd never seen Kyrie play ere a scout, I'm the 361 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: GM describe him to me. I mean, the guy is 362 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 1: just he's poetry emotion. The guy can shoot, he's slippery, 363 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 1: he's smooth with the ball. What makes him his layup package, 364 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,679 Speaker 1: Like you said, it's unbelievable. He can go right, he 365 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: can go left, he can reverse, he as the spin 366 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: off the glass. He's got a float game to he's 367 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: got a step back, he'll post you up. There's nothing 368 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,640 Speaker 1: really he can't do with the ball. I think he's 369 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 1: you know, I think he's an unbelievable player and finisher, 370 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,640 Speaker 1: an ISO player. And that series also, everyone's really talking 371 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 1: about Minnesota Memphis. I think that series is the series 372 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 1: to watch that feels like that feels like it should 373 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 1: be like the Finals like it is. It's physical, they're 374 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: getting chippy with the whole ship with Kyrie and the fans, 375 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 1: and it's destined for a seven game series. And that's 376 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: the series that I think is the one to you know, 377 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,160 Speaker 1: it's going to be awesome. I mean, you had Billy 378 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 1: Donovan at Florida so you've had a great coach and 379 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: he's part of the Bulls resurgence. My question about Steve 380 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: Nash is I don't like their end of game possessions 381 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 1: with Brooklyn. It's just like it looks like a bad 382 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 1: YMCA set. Like somebody said this to me the other 383 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: day that Steve Kerr sort of demands that you kind 384 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 1: of fit into the system. They like, you know, they 385 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: like you to move the ball, and that Kevin Durant 386 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 1: maybe doesn't love it, and he kind of likes he 387 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:06,199 Speaker 1: likes that left angle shot when I mean it was 388 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 1: Donovan ever willing to just freestyle and the posession. No, 389 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 1: he was more of a structured offensive guy. But he 390 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 1: also I mean, we didn't have a KD or a 391 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 1: Kyrie to to be able to go straight Rico heinz 392 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: pickup basketball and then go get a bucket I had. 393 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 1: We had to like run the flex and run the 394 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: motion and said screens and slip Like he's more of 395 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: a of a you know, old school offensive mind, but 396 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 1: he's a brilliant offensive mind. Like he's he's he's such 397 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 1: a good player development guy. He's such a cool, relatable 398 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 1: coach and now you know, playing with him at Florida. 399 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 1: It's different in college. The coaches the guy, right, they're 400 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 1: almost like a father figure. They're on They're on you, 401 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 1: they're pushing you, they're motivating you. They're holding you accountable, 402 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: you know, for everything, study, hall, class, whatever. He so, 403 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,679 Speaker 1: he was more of like a he's a school Patino, right, 404 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 1: he was a Mille like he was a he was 405 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 1: he was tough. NBA you can't really do that as much. 406 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 1: It's a players league. So I think his personality can 407 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 1: kind of over overshadow that, and he can relate with 408 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 1: the guys but also put his infrastructure of offense in 409 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 1: And I loved what they did in the off season 410 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 1: with those guys, and um, he's done a really good 411 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 1: job there. But no, he didn't. He never really had, 412 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:18,879 Speaker 1: you know, guys like that to go and get a 413 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 1: bucket and just let it. Who is your favorite? Who 414 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 1: is your favorite NBA coach? Even if it was an 415 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 1: assistant JB. Bickerstaff by far. You know, it's interesting you 416 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: say that, why just the you know a lot of 417 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: coaches preach you know, as his family. This is where 418 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:40,400 Speaker 1: he is. He believes it, he breathes it. Not only 419 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: is he is he special with his X and os 420 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: and is at a you know, time out, play calling 421 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 1: and substitutions. He kind of he knows the game very well, 422 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 1: but he just has a way of relating with players 423 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 1: to bring the best at you. And in the NBA, 424 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 1: these guys are these guys are They're egotistical and they're sensitive. 425 00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,120 Speaker 1: They get pissed and if you don't mess with the coach, 426 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 1: like you're not going to play is hard for him. 427 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: So when you see JB like Cleveland this year, he 428 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: was my Coach of the Year until they absolutely shit 429 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 1: the bed the end of the season. But those guys, 430 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 1: they ride for him. They play so hard, those guys, 431 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 1: and I know why they love him like that is 432 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 1: his guy. He just gets that. He gets it across 433 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,400 Speaker 1: to them that you know their family and and it's there. 434 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: There's no there's no personal feelings when you could take 435 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:23,159 Speaker 1: an outer or if he jumps you, because you have 436 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: that mutual respect, you know. I think I was shocked 437 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,959 Speaker 1: that Cleveland didn't get in. I think I mean they 438 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: had some injuries during the year, Jared Allen injuries some 439 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 1: killer for them, But I mean I saw Mobley make 440 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,679 Speaker 1: a move in that first playoff game. Dude, he is, 441 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 1: He's going to be twenty seven a night like he dude, 442 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,880 Speaker 1: he is good. He's the real deal. He's he's so bouncy. 443 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 1: He's got it. He's he's like a yeah, he's he's 444 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: got game. Yeah. So I was talking about, you know, 445 00:25:55,040 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 1: these NBA playoffs historically, uh, number one or two seeds 446 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,919 Speaker 1: when the title eighty nine percent of the time. So 447 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: I've always had this sort of belief that owners became 448 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 1: owners and billionaires because there's a level of greed. But 449 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: now that the money you get your money now overwhelmingly 450 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 1: from TV networks, not from people in the seats. So 451 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: I would go three games first round, five games until 452 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 1: the finals, and then I would go seven and a 453 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,200 Speaker 1: lot of people push back and the takeaway is, oh 454 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,640 Speaker 1: my god, what if the favorites lose? And my takeaway 455 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 1: is college gives you one game. I mean, you played 456 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: on a Florida team that went back to backs. You 457 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 1: guys know how to switch it on, switch it off. 458 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 1: It is. And the other thing is we're seeing a 459 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:44,399 Speaker 1: ton chandler of injuries the last three years. Now, some 460 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 1: of these guys to have more power and money, they 461 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 1: take games off. But I do think something's happening in 462 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,880 Speaker 1: the league where it's more of a cardio league. It's 463 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 1: not as physical, and I'm seeing so many calf injuries 464 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 1: and I'm thinking to myself, I mean, to these guys, 465 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 1: not all these days off are serious injuries, but it 466 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,439 Speaker 1: does feel like there's a lot more tweaks. What the 467 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,159 Speaker 1: hell's going on? Yeah, it's an interesting point, like like 468 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 1: if the Dallas series was a five game series, would 469 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 1: Luca play tonight? You know what I mean? Like is it? 470 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 1: I mean the season is long, and the preseason when 471 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 1: I was playing, it was way too long. It's a 472 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,639 Speaker 1: two week training camp, seven preseason games, you have to 473 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 1: go to China like and play or you know, two 474 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,920 Speaker 1: international preseason games and then you play a two games 475 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 1: and then you hit the playoffs. So like it was 476 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 1: a lot and I think with the amount of injuries, 477 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 1: I think that's obviously you know, a big issue and 478 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:39,920 Speaker 1: a big deal. But yeah, I mean I could see 479 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: shortened like you know NFL, these guys they get one 480 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 1: chance and you lose, and you know, the Chiefs lose, 481 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 1: they're done. Yeah, So I think I think it will 482 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: eliminate a lot of the resting and I think it'll 483 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 1: eliminate a lot of the stuff. But you know, I'm 484 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:54,879 Speaker 1: ould school. I love like now that I'm out of it, 485 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 1: I'm glad there's seven. Like I want to watch Minnesota 486 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 1: Memphis played for seven games. I want to watch the 487 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,679 Speaker 1: Celtics next play for seven games. I'd hate for it 488 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 1: to be short, but it does. You do have a 489 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,880 Speaker 1: good point. You know, we got into this Patrick Beverley 490 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 1: thing the other day is that you know, everybody in 491 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 1: the media overreacts, and my takeaway is I saw Bill 492 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 1: Lambier tackle guys. Okay, so Pat beavs just annoying. I mean, 493 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,120 Speaker 1: we don't even have a hand check now. So when 494 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 1: what's the line like? Like, Tony Allen was really physical, 495 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 1: like really, but I never felt he was cheap. I 496 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 1: thought lamb Beer was cheap. What is the line like? 497 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 1: How is Beverlely viewed among players? Yeah? Um, and I 498 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 1: played with Ta I played with Patrick Beverley in Houston. 499 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 1: So I played with both those guys and they're very similar. 500 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 1: They're both from Chicago, they're both they both talk a lot, 501 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 1: and they both back it up. They're both very physical, 502 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 1: and both those guys I think they realize that's their crafts, right, 503 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 1: their stats don't really show and you know they're impact. 504 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 1: But the guy like Pat Bev, it's it's refreshing to 505 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 1: see a guy like that still care as much and 506 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 1: it's contagious and he gets the guys jacked up almost 507 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 1: to a fault where when you're watching it from the outside, 508 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 1: it's kind of obnoxious and you like it's a little much, 509 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 1: But that's that's his talent, like, and that is a 510 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 1: talent that he has this mindset every day that he's 511 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 1: just gonna go in and he's gonna annoy and he's 512 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 1: gonna pester, and he's gonna play physical and try and 513 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 1: make it miserable for John Moran for seven games or 514 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 1: that goes that far, because he knows he's not gonna 515 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: have thirty He's no, he's not gonna have the ball 516 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 1: at the game on the line to win the game. 517 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 1: So that's how he can impact winning for his team. 518 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 1: And it's it's a talent and it is I mean, 519 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 1: the jumping on the table, doing all this stuff. It's 520 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 1: it's a lot, but um it is. At the same time, 521 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: it's kind of refreshing that someone like that cares that much. About, 522 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: you know, making the playoffs. That's usually not the standard, right, 523 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 1: usually like it's like we're competing for a championship. That 524 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 1: guy with everything that happened in Minnesota and him with 525 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 1: the Clippers, he really he really cared and he really 526 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 1: wanted it. And you can see the guys that he's 527 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 1: a goon from Chicago and he's crying that made the playoffs. 528 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 1: It's pretty impressive. When was the first guy because nobody 529 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 1: stopped you in high school? You dominate college. Who was 530 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 1: the first guy in the NBA that guarded you and 531 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,719 Speaker 1: you were like, oh shit, I can't beat him off 532 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 1: the dribble. It's interesting. My so, my fifth game we 533 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 1: used to the Rockets started off like one and four 534 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 1: of my rookie year at Coach m Kevin mckill is 535 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 1: my head coach and J. B. Pickersteff was my assistant, 536 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 1: and I was getting garbage spot minutes. I didn't really play. 537 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 1: And we go to Oklahoma City and you know, you 538 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: go to three hours before when you're a rookie, you're 539 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 1: shooting at four o'clock for a seven to thirty game, 540 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 1: and mckill goes in there and he writes the lineups. 541 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 1: On the board and you know it's it's like Lowry 542 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 1: Westbrook and then it goes back and forth and it 543 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 1: says Parsons Durant. So I'm starting my first game ever, 544 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 1: in my fifth game of my career against Kevin Durant. 545 00:30:57,920 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 1: But what I didn't realize is that I wasn't good 546 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 1: enough or respect enough for him to guard meat. So 547 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 1: I had Stephalosha guarding me. And that dude was a 548 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 1: goal love. I like it was the guy I couldn't 549 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 1: get by him. He was faster than me, he was 550 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 1: stronger than me, he was way disciplined on my shot fake. 551 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: He like knew all our plays in advance. Like he 552 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 1: was a very very very good defensive player that I 553 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 1: always struggled against. So that night you go home, are 554 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 1: you just thinking, shit, man, this league? I don't know, 555 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 1: because even in college, you know, you get away with 556 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 1: you know, being more physical or better or taller, and 557 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 1: you can still go out and have thirty against Chattanooga. 558 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 1: There's no there's no Chattanoogas in the NBA. Right, There's 559 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: there's a there's a five star recruit on the other end. 560 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 1: No matter how bad or well he's playing, he's elite 561 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 1: and so yeah, you learn real fast that this is uh, 562 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's a tough league, and no matter 563 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 1: how good you player, no matter how bad you play, 564 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 1: there's eighty two games. So you got to move on regardless. 565 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 1: Mark Mark few of Zaga was on that USA Basketball 566 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 1: team and he I asked him once about Kevin Durant 567 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 1: and he said, okay, he goes. Just think of how 568 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 1: great the talent is on USA Basketball and then offensively 569 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 1: Durant is significantly better than every other player. Offensively, he's 570 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 1: the guy on the team with all the guys. Yeah, yeah, 571 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 1: it's nuts. It's pretty crazy. Yeah, Mark said, he said, 572 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 1: you really couldn't defend him. Is that if he wanted 573 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 1: a shot? You know, I always channel I always said 574 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 1: that in the NBA, we all think everybody can get 575 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 1: their shot, but there's probably twenty guys in the league 576 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 1: that can really truly get their shot. It's not as 577 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 1: many as you think. Oh no, there's I mean, there's 578 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 1: the elite shot creators. But it's funny because like my 579 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 1: boys back home, they'll they'll make fun of a player, right, 580 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:58,239 Speaker 1: They'll be like, oh, Brian Scalabrini, he's trash. Or like, 581 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 1: oh I would have been I'm like, do you know 582 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 1: what this man would do to you if you try 583 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 1: to guard him? Like you know how bad? You know 584 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 1: how good you have to be to be the worst 585 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 1: player on an NBA team. So it's funny like when 586 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 1: like my normal friends, like they'll they'll swatch an NBA 587 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: game and it looks like they're horrible because guys like 588 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 1: cephalosh Art, Tony Allen or Patrick Beverley are guarding you, 589 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 1: but like they could, they'd like to compare it to 590 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 1: their LA Fitness Rec League game. Well, the first time 591 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: I met Steve Nash, so for years I watched Steve 592 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 1: Nash and he had remember the AMAR team and Nash 593 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 1: always looks so tiny on the floor. And then he 594 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 1: now works out at my athletic club in LA and 595 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 1: I'm six two one ninety and he freaking he's like 596 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 1: significantly taller than me. And by the way, that dude 597 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 1: can get on a treadmill for four hours, like and 598 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 1: I'm I was a marathon runner and I remember watching 599 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 1: him work out and I was like, the hell, yeah, 600 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 1: it's it's it's You'll even see that in college too, 601 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 1: Like when throughout my four years of Florida. There were 602 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 1: so many really really good college players like Jamont Gordon 603 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 1: from Mississippi State or Sundiata gains from Gain from Georgia. 604 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,319 Speaker 1: They just never made the NBA. And they were so 605 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,959 Speaker 1: good even in the high major Division one basketball team 606 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 1: and didn't sniff the NBA. It's it's it's tough. You know. 607 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,359 Speaker 1: You you had an accident hit by a drunk driver 608 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 1: that really ended your career early. You're not bitter. And 609 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 1: I think about this, and I you know, I didn't 610 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:28,799 Speaker 1: know if I was going to ask you about it, 611 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 1: but I think if somebody ended my broadcasting career early, 612 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 1: like I'd probably be bitter, not like get a fired, 613 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 1: like what if somebody slashed my throat, I mean, or something. 614 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:45,280 Speaker 1: But but there had to be times, Chandler, where Jesus, 615 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:47,879 Speaker 1: this is your love, it's your passion. You gave your 616 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 1: world to it. You're not bitter though, No, I mean, 617 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not. I wouldn't say I'm bitter. I 618 00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,720 Speaker 1: think listen, my whole dream as a kid from Orlando 619 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:03,400 Speaker 1: was to make the NBA and come and play in 620 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 1: the NBA. I never had any aspirations after that, never 621 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 1: never even thought it was possible, right. I was the 622 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,719 Speaker 1: kid watching the Orlando Magic in my parents' house, and 623 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 1: then every time I would run outside of my backyard 624 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:15,839 Speaker 1: and act like Penny and do what he did. Like 625 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 1: I thought these guys were freak, so I thought there 626 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 1: were aliens. I thought there's no way I'd ever beat him. 627 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 1: And then I had success in the NBA, and you know, 628 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 1: I obviously my career was riddled by knee injuries towards 629 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 1: the end there. But yeah, it sucks to be you know, 630 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:29,799 Speaker 1: this is the love of my life and it was 631 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 1: taken away from me out of nowhere. But I think 632 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 1: timing is everything. Everything that happened in the world last 633 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,719 Speaker 1: two years was just was shitty. I you know, I 634 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 1: got married, I had a child. It's like you kind 635 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 1: of put things in perspective where things that are bigger 636 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 1: than basketball, and that kind of helps me, helps me, know, 637 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 1: you know, not be that bitter old head. That's like 638 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,279 Speaker 1: watching these guys now play and get paid and think 639 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,440 Speaker 1: I'm oh, but than then I should still be playing. 640 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 1: You know, I did a great job connecting with people 641 00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 1: and having a career after basketball, So yeah, sucks. I 642 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 1: wish I could still be planned but now I get 643 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 1: to hang out and talk to cool guys like you. 644 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 1: Make sure to check out The Draymon Green Show. I 645 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,799 Speaker 1: brought Draymond Green into the Volume because one of the 646 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:16,320 Speaker 1: more entertaining voices in sports, unique perspective understands behind the rope, 647 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:20,240 Speaker 1: also chops up with guests like Gary Peyton, Zach Levine, 648 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 1: Tracy McGrady. Make sure download The Draymond Green Show wherever 649 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:29,800 Speaker 1: you get your podcasts, only on the Volume podcast network. 650 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,279 Speaker 1: Do you remember at the first moment, take me to 651 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 1: the first moment, and this had to be crazy that 652 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 1: you said I can play in this league. I think 653 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 1: I can be a pro. Yeah, Like I said after that, 654 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 1: the first starter is really like because I love Kevin 655 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 1: mckille growing up, I love Larry Bird, I love the Celtics, 656 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 1: I love I watched every basketball game. I was obsessed, 657 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 1: and to have Kevin McHale as my head coach put 658 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,680 Speaker 1: me in the start lineup of an NBA team was 659 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:03,920 Speaker 1: my first kind of like eye opening, like holy shit, 660 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 1: like this is real. And then we went on like 661 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 1: a winning streak. When I was starting and I was 662 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,000 Speaker 1: starting to at like I would starting to score points 663 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 1: and I was having twenty and then I was like 664 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 1: in the Rookie All Star Game and like that's really 665 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 1: when it's set in because my draft, I was a 666 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:21,760 Speaker 1: thirtieth pick and it was like Kyree, Kyrie, Clay Thompson, 667 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 1: Kawhi Leonard, like it was a really good draft. And 668 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,920 Speaker 1: I made the Rookie Game playing against those guys, and 669 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,480 Speaker 1: I was like, that's where I kind of fished. You 670 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,239 Speaker 1: was like all right, like I'm like I'm here to stay, 671 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,879 Speaker 1: Like this isn't just you know, a fluke. And that's 672 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,440 Speaker 1: where I started kind of focusing and you know, dieting 673 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,080 Speaker 1: and weight room and stuff like that. But that was 674 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:43,480 Speaker 1: kind of the first initial like wow, like I really 675 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 1: did you know? I made it? And I'm here, Well, 676 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 1: I'm watching these playoffs. Final question. I'm watching these playoffs 677 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:55,399 Speaker 1: like you, and I do think Boston Brooklyn's the best 678 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 1: series for me, like nothing against Memphis Minnesota, but they're 679 00:37:58,200 --> 00:37:59,880 Speaker 1: so damn young. I just don't I don't see the 680 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,840 Speaker 1: teams getting past the suns because I always think the NBA, 681 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 1: and I think you probably do too, it's just steps 682 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,800 Speaker 1: like you just can't walk in and fly through the playoffs. 683 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,560 Speaker 1: The lowest seed. That's ever won is Houston in the 684 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,239 Speaker 1: mid nineties and they had Drexelo and Alaja one and 685 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:19,240 Speaker 1: they won the year before. Yeah, so like six seven seeds, 686 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,360 Speaker 1: like it's not going to happen. It's seven game series. 687 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:27,400 Speaker 1: But the one, the one team that's interesting is Golden 688 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:31,880 Speaker 1: State because even though they's been sporadic, guys have been hurt, 689 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:41,040 Speaker 1: there's just Kuminga in pool. And give me a little 690 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:45,160 Speaker 1: of their magic. Give me a moment playing them that 691 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,680 Speaker 1: I can't see on the floor. I can't tell because 692 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 1: there's nobody that quite I mean Chandler. When they started 693 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,600 Speaker 1: this thing about ten years ago, they were shooting thirty 694 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,880 Speaker 1: threes and people were shooting like eight. Like when was 695 00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,719 Speaker 1: the first moment you faced this group of guys and 696 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,480 Speaker 1: it was like no basketball you'd ever been on the 697 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,879 Speaker 1: floor against. Yeah, it was. You know, they did really 698 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 1: good in the draft. You know, they drafted so well. 699 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,640 Speaker 1: They went from like Steph to Clay to Harrison Barnes 700 00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,960 Speaker 1: and Draymond like, like, they really did well in the draft, 701 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,719 Speaker 1: and then they added pieces around that. Obviously, you know, 702 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,959 Speaker 1: they hit quite possibly the two best shooters of all time, 703 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,840 Speaker 1: and then you get a guy like Draymond who isn't 704 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,840 Speaker 1: the most talented, isn't the most skilled player, but plays 705 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:32,399 Speaker 1: his role so well he defends he's the perfect fit 706 00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:36,319 Speaker 1: for those two guys. And then you add piece like Igwadala, 707 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:37,880 Speaker 1: and then you draft you get again a guy like 708 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:41,520 Speaker 1: Jordan Poole now and they just you know, obviously it 709 00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,320 Speaker 1: stems from Steph and Clay, those guys being able to 710 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,240 Speaker 1: shoot the ball in the elite level. I think Steve 711 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,200 Speaker 1: Kerr's offense is fantastic, you know him and Phoenix, like, 712 00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 1: he had a fantastic offensive system, pick and roll threes 713 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,080 Speaker 1: and it's just impossible to guard. They never stopped moving. 714 00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:02,560 Speaker 1: They're an unbelievable condition and uh, you know, they're they're interchangeable. 715 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:04,600 Speaker 1: They switched. They don't have and for the two of 716 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 1: the best shooters of all time, they have no egos. 717 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:08,799 Speaker 1: Those guys are like, I feel like I didn't play there, 718 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:13,719 Speaker 1: but they're like the most unselfish, you know, selfless stars. Ever. 719 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,840 Speaker 1: Like those guys, they're not like egotistical. They're not feeling 720 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:18,640 Speaker 1: themselves and they should be. I mean, they're a little 721 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,480 Speaker 1: flashy when they play, but like they're very grounded, humble dudes. 722 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,360 Speaker 1: I know, both of them very well. They're they're they're awesome, 723 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,000 Speaker 1: and they love to play and they have fun and 724 00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,319 Speaker 1: they have fun playing with each other. And I still 725 00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,080 Speaker 1: don't think they'll get past Phoenix this year, but them healthy, 726 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,239 Speaker 1: with Jordan Poole playing the way he's playing, it's it's 727 00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,920 Speaker 1: gonna be a great series. And and yeah, those guys, 728 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,120 Speaker 1: they changed the game for every man. And almost stephano 729 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:40,880 Speaker 1: was ruined the game because now these kids. I went 730 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,080 Speaker 1: to a game, these kids are just taking the most 731 00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:46,959 Speaker 1: horrific shots and now everybody wants to be Steph Curry. 732 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,000 Speaker 1: But it's it's the guys that trend. He's a video 733 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:53,160 Speaker 1: game man. He changed everything. He took a shot the 734 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:57,319 Speaker 1: other night. He didn't even set it was a foot inbounds, 735 00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:01,840 Speaker 1: and I'm like, I mean been yelled your coach would 736 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:05,120 Speaker 1: pull you off the floor twelve years ago. Is he 737 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:09,520 Speaker 1: doesn't really? He gets ball from floor to hand faster 738 00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:13,560 Speaker 1: than anybody I've ever seen. Floor to shooting. It's not 739 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,520 Speaker 1: half a second. His release is quick. It's whether if 740 00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,680 Speaker 1: it's off the dribble or coming off the screen. He 741 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,720 Speaker 1: just needs a second man. It's going up from whatever distance, 742 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,279 Speaker 1: and the thing the other night was funny when you 743 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,880 Speaker 1: know the technical free though, where it was either Heaven 744 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,160 Speaker 1: Pool and then he missed some of them. Did you 745 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:32,720 Speaker 1: think you think you think Pool shoots the next one? Well, 746 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:37,000 Speaker 1: I think there's a reverence to Steph Like I just 747 00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:40,520 Speaker 1: think steps earn the right no no to make. But 748 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:42,719 Speaker 1: I think honestly he's That's what I'm saying. He's the 749 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:44,439 Speaker 1: kind of star that you'd be like, you know what, 750 00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,160 Speaker 1: you're number one in the you know free through percentage 751 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:51,120 Speaker 1: you take this, I think you miss Pool's ninety one percent. 752 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,760 Speaker 1: I think he is the best shooter in the league. 753 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:56,240 Speaker 1: He is. I think he's the number one three thcent. 754 00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,400 Speaker 1: But I mean, obviously steps can can veto that. But 755 00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,680 Speaker 1: I think up as the kind of star where it's 756 00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,040 Speaker 1: just a small example where next time there's a tech watch, 757 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:05,960 Speaker 1: I guarantee you Jordan pull shoots if they're both on 758 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:10,640 Speaker 1: the court. Great seeing you, buddy, I'm glad you had 759 00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,480 Speaker 1: a good day. Gave us twenty five minutes. It was great, awesome, 760 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:30,080 Speaker 1: Thanks Broun to talk to you later. The volume