1 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: Thirty boy, it's hot touchdown and a flag is down 2 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 1: on the far side of the eleven yard line. So 3 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 1: for the moment, Ronnie Bell gets into the end zone. 4 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: First down and goal now from the eight yard line 5 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: and a big hole and pulling his way is Matt 6 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: Brida for a touchdown. Pressure deep, hot, Samuel hearts out. 7 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 2: There. It is the big horn at the big Bell bottom. 8 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 2: As a San Francisco forty nine ers take care of 9 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 2: business on Thursday Night football. Let the Giants hang around 10 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 2: a little bit, but ultimately never a game in doubt. 11 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 2: Thirty to twelve final. San Francisco improves to three and 12 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 2: zero on the season. The Giants fall to one and two. 13 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 2: Dan Hans is here along with the great Mark Sessler 14 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 2: and Mark we knew this was a big challenge for 15 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 2: the Giants. Best of circumstances, it's not the best of circumstances. 16 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 2: Saquon Barkley has a high ankle sprain. I thought it 17 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 2: was an ordinary sprain. Mark, it's a high angel sprain. 18 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 2: He confirmed it today on Amazon in an interview. So 19 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 2: he's out this week and beyond that, and he takes 20 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 2: Saquon out of the mix. And this was just a 21 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 2: mismatch really from the start. 22 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it kind of is set apart for me 23 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 3: a little bit with some of these Thursday night games 24 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 3: where you kind of think you know what's gonna happen, 25 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 3: and then because it's Thursday night, and they talked even 26 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 3: tonight about the fact that, like you can't even really 27 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 3: teach your scout team quickly enough what the other team 28 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 3: might do. It's like it's just it's such a compacted 29 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 3: practice and a lot of teams don't even have a 30 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 3: physical practice. 31 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 4: But still so that. 32 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 3: Creates this weirdness and Thursday nights where like games go awry, 33 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 3: they go a little strange. 34 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:14,239 Speaker 4: But what the more realistic scenario. 35 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 3: Is, it's like you kind of lean on who you are, 36 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 3: and I think we just saw these two teams for 37 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 3: who they were tonight, and one of them is stripped 38 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 3: of their best player. It's a running back, and so 39 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 3: your backup Matt Brida comes in and rushes only four 40 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 3: times for seventeen yards. 41 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 4: The Giants, who I. 42 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 3: Think, if anything, they needed to create disturbance and problems 43 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 3: out of the gate. You don't get Darren Waller a 44 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 3: catch until I think a minute to go for the 45 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 3: half and the Niners. 46 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 4: You know, just did what they did, like if anything win. 47 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 3: I thought the plan was with Wink Martindale was to 48 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 3: come out and throw everything at brock Purty and try 49 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:56,839 Speaker 3: to create chaos and mistakes, and they did. Like there's 50 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 3: an interesting stat let me bring this up here. It's 51 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 3: I saw from PFF that they blitzed the forty nine 52 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 3: ers on eighty three percent of their snaps in the 53 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 3: first half, which is the fourth highest rate of any 54 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 3: game of the past five years. 55 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 4: So there was a plan there. 56 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 3: There was a concept of like we can still maybe 57 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 3: take this young quarterback and throw them off. His game 58 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:21,119 Speaker 3: and party wasn't perfect, but it's like there's too much 59 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:22,519 Speaker 3: happening with his Niners offense. 60 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 4: Brandon Ayuku is not in there. 61 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 3: But it's like they found a way just to make 62 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 3: enough big plays where I found it to be sort 63 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 3: of a prosaic, not very memorable game. 64 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 4: And to be honest with you, this happens to us 65 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 4: when you're going to. 66 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 3: Cover every one of these And the Niners sort of 67 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 3: performed exactly to the standards that I would have expected 68 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 3: on a lower octane night out at the ballpark. 69 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, they they were obviously the better team. We knew that, 70 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 2: and but they it was almost like they didn't put 71 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 2: the foot on the accelerator throughout the game because they 72 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 2: knew they didn't need to for the most part. And 73 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 2: Rock Party, like you said, he wasn't as accurate, and 74 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 2: he kind of warmed up as the game went along, 75 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 2: So he had no Brandon Ayuk. The connection with Debo 76 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 2: is off early on, and yet they were able to. 77 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 2: You know, when the passing game's not right, you have 78 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey there and McCaffrey in an otherwise I guess 79 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 2: you could call it ho hum game. Another one hundred 80 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 2: yards from scrimmage, eighty five rushing yards, yet another TD, 81 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 2: which is pretty remarkable. I think he has a touchdown 82 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 2: now in twelve consecutive games, which is just amazing. I mean, 83 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 2: to have that level of consistency, it feels like we've 84 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 2: I don't want to jinx the men. It feels like 85 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 2: we're a long way away now from that cursed period 86 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 2: of his career where you know he couldn't stay on 87 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 2: the field. He's really become everything San Francisco could have 88 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 2: could have wanted. And so when you have McCaffrey there 89 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 2: and you have Debo there, who eventually warmed up and 90 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 2: he had another great classic debo game. Deebo's one of 91 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 2: my favorite players in the league. He's so fun to watch. 92 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 2: He had seventy seven yards after catch in this game, 93 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 2: and that was before he caught the long touchdown. That 94 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 2: kind of was the exclamation point on this game, and 95 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 2: it was also one of my favorite debo things. Mark 96 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 2: I talked about it during our Fantasy Extravaganza. There's one 97 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 2: bit of a devil's bargain with Deebo Samuel In fantasy, 98 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 2: there will be a handful of moments. I don't mean 99 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 2: just one or two. There's gonna be six or seven 100 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 2: moments where you're watching a Niners game and Deebo goes 101 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:34,720 Speaker 2: down on the field and all of a sudden, they 102 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 2: cut to commercial with the entire medical staff around him, 103 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 2: and you're thinking to yourself, well, that's I gotta go 104 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 2: to the waiver wire. This is crushing. My team's ever 105 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 2: gonna be the same. He misses three plays and then 106 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 2: he comes back and scores a touchdown. He's been doing 107 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 2: this his whole career. It's one of my favorite things 108 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 2: that about him is he's a showman when it comes 109 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 2: to injuries. 110 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 4: He really is. 111 00:05:57,279 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 3: I thought of you tonight because you're one of the 112 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 3: people that brought that up and kind of encapsulated it 113 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 3: in a perfect way. 114 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 4: Like he's been. 115 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 3: Doing this like for for years, and like tonight I 116 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:10,479 Speaker 3: was I was watching this with a couple of kids, 117 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 3: like with a friend or two, and it was just like, wait, 118 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 3: Deebo does this all the time. He's like down the 119 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 3: on the ground like arms spread. 120 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 2: Like yeah, medical. So you're literally wondering, I mean, is 121 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 2: he dead, Like yeah, yeah. 122 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:24,919 Speaker 3: Will we ever see him again in this capacity or 123 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 3: will they be wheeled out to old age events? And 124 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 3: then like two plays later, he's like walking around like 125 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:32,719 Speaker 3: this with his like shoulder pads bouncing around. It's like 126 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 3: he knows what he's doing. He's uh, I love him 127 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 3: for this, Like I think he's enjoyable. And it's like, 128 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 3: you know, I look at this team. It's like I 129 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 3: think we both can say like we've seen. 130 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 4: The Niners when they're operating at. 131 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 3: A feverish pace and they're just like hand around the 132 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 3: neck of the opponent and the opponent is dying slowly, 133 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 3: like this was not that game, and it said they 134 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 3: still had fourteen first downs to New York's five, and 135 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 3: had the half two hundred and forty four yards by 136 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:02,919 Speaker 3: the break. One plays to twenty four twenty minutes of possession, 137 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 3: seven of ten for third down, which is like a 138 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 3: third down is a weird stat but like, when you're 139 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 3: seven for ten, you're about as efficient as you can 140 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 3: possibly be. And the Giants had twelve yards rushing, and 141 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 3: then you're asking Daniel Jones, who we don't totally believe in, 142 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 3: to save the day with a bunch of wide receivers 143 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:25,239 Speaker 3: we don't totally believe in, and Darren Waller's not involved. Earling, 144 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 3: It's like you can just see it on Brian Daball's face. Man, 145 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 3: he like, I love day Ball, but like he was 146 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 3: so frustrated. And it's like their schedule has been tough. 147 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 3: They've been in a tough spot to begin with, and 148 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 3: this just exacerbated it. 149 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 4: But the Niners have played. 150 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 3: Like a a gentleman's sea game and dominated statistically in 151 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 3: the first half against another NFL team. 152 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 2: I think he tells you a lot about both teams, 153 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 2: and even with saquon, the Giants are a tier or 154 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 2: even two beneath the San Francisco who they're so good 155 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 2: mark that, like when you see that they drafted Jake Moody, 156 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 2: which was a total the type of draft pick of 157 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 2: team makes when they are so full of themselves about 158 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 2: their roster. We'll go take on day two, We'll go 159 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 2: grab a kicker because that's the only real glaring hole 160 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 2: we have left. Even though the previous kicker, Robbie Gould, 161 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 2: was one of the best veterans in the league. And 162 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 2: now that guy has started nine for nine Moody as 163 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 2: a rookie, so he's not Roberto Oguyo. And you know, 164 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 2: it's almost like they have a big time player at 165 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 2: almost every position, certainly the glamour positions. And I andnderstand 166 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 2: Purdy were not ready to put him in the Hall 167 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 2: of Fame, but he's a very, very good fit for 168 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 2: this offense. But they have a superstar left tackle. They 169 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 2: have at least one superstar wide receiver and maybe two. 170 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 2: They have the best all round running back in the league. 171 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 2: They have one of the best edge rushers in the league. 172 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 2: They have one of the best linebackers in the league 173 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 2: and Fred Warner. They have big they have depth in 174 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 2: the secondary. They have everything that you could want on 175 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 2: a team, and anything short of a super Bowl this 176 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 2: season is considered failure for this organization, which there's pressure there. 177 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 2: So I think games like this when they don't even 178 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 2: seem to be playing that well and they still take 179 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 2: care of business, that's what really good teams do, and 180 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 2: kind of swing it back to the Giants because you've 181 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 2: mentioned his name twice, Mark, I am not into this 182 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:23,839 Speaker 2: Darren Waller situation with the Giants. I like that Kirk 183 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 2: Herbstreet was kind of calling Waller out. I don't think 184 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 2: Waller's effort level was where it needed to be near 185 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,439 Speaker 2: the end of his Raiders time really maybe coincidentally when 186 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 2: he got a huge contract and Herbstreet all but called 187 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 2: the guy out for not trying hard in this game. 188 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:42,719 Speaker 2: And it is a bad sign when Darren Waller is 189 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 2: not coming down with contested catches. When the Giants one 190 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 2: of their biggest glaring deficiency is they don't have a 191 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:51,319 Speaker 2: true number one wide receiver, and that's something I think 192 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 2: you're gonna see them address aggressively in the upcoming offseason, 193 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 2: whether it's going after a guy like T Higgins or 194 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 2: through the draft they because that is a big hole 195 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 2: in this roster. Ostensibly, Darren Waller Mark was supposed to 196 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 2: be this guy that filled that hole and was a 197 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 2: red zone monster. I'm just not seeing it through three weeks, 198 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 2: and I don't know, like Herbstreet, if this guy is 199 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:15,959 Speaker 2: really giving everything he can to this offense when they 200 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 2: need him so badly. 201 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought that criticism. 202 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 3: I kind of liked that from an announcer to begin with, 203 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 3: a lot of these guys shy away from that. You're 204 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 3: down your number one running back, your best player on offense, 205 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 3: like you said, you don't You've got some you got 206 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 3: Jalen Hie, you got some young interesting guys in wide out. 207 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 3: But this should have been the Darren Waller game. Now, 208 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,559 Speaker 3: I don't think that would have made the entire difference 209 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 3: had he even played one of his better games against 210 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 3: this team. But like it's a combination of like the 211 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 3: Giants not finding a way to get on the ball early, 212 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 3: and that could be a Daniel Jones thing. Like I said, 213 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 3: you didn't have a catch till right before half. You 214 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 3: can question the effort. It's hard for me to gauge that, 215 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 3: like as a viewer necessarily, but I would say that 216 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 3: like the plan for him seems not totally on point 217 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,679 Speaker 3: on any level, and like the Giants. 218 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 2: Just looks so different than the guy in the Raiders 219 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 2: three or four years ago. Now, yeah, and the guy 220 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 2: we've seen remember to get you knew that. The one 221 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 2: thing it was a good trade at the time, but 222 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 2: the one thing that smelled funny was why do how 223 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,679 Speaker 2: do the Raiders make him? I think he might have 224 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 2: been the highest paid tight end in the league when 225 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 2: they gave him the contractor close to it, and then 226 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 2: one year later dump him for a Day two pick, 227 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 2: and like, you just wonder if there's more to it, 228 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 2: and they did. There was a shot to Brian Dable 229 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 2: after the ball that kramed off his hands for the 230 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 2: interception that kind of was the end to end of 231 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 2: the game where you could tell Dables' faces like come on, bro, yeah, 232 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 2: you got to help me out here. And so it's this. 233 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 2: They didn't lose because of Darren Waller tonight, but I 234 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 2: think they have an issue like it. Daniel Jones is 235 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 2: not maybe a star, but I don't know if he has, 236 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 2: especially with that barklay. There a lot at his disposal 237 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 2: to really put together consistent production week after week, not 238 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 2: let him off the hook. But unless you know people 239 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 2: are higher on Waller, I get it. Then it's there 240 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:15,599 Speaker 2: when Barkley comes back. But I think there are a 241 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 2: couple of guys away on that offense. 242 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 3: I'm with you, and I think like you have your 243 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 3: Graybeard's roster that you create the final like elderly unsigned, 244 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 3: previously star free agents, and I think there should be 245 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 3: another roster where it's like Kenny Pickett would be the quarterback, 246 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 3: Darren Waller would be the tight end. Where it's like 247 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 3: we spend a month plus or two or three months 248 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 3: hearing about how glowing you know it was Michael, it 249 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 3: was Robinson, Alan Robinson a year ago, like these guys 250 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 3: that get the five or six weeks of like insane 251 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 3: beat writer praise in print and inc. And then the 252 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:56,319 Speaker 3: season happens and it's like, wait, Kenny Pickett doesn't look 253 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 3: good and Darren Waller is not fitting in so well 254 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 3: in this offense, and it's Mark, are. 255 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 2: You pitching a really good Wednesday podcast segment right now? 256 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:09,959 Speaker 2: Maybe stand pin in it. I know what you're saying, though, 257 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 2: got hype bunnies from the summer who now are getting 258 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 2: you know, we're heading into week three. We got to 259 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,079 Speaker 2: start to see some of that anything else kind of 260 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 2: jump out to you. I'll throw a couple of things 261 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 2: out there. You mentioned third down efficiency. I love that 262 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 2: stat because it tells you a lot. I think about 263 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 2: both the offense and the opposing defense. Gents could not 264 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:34,199 Speaker 2: get off the field on this game. Maybe it's a 265 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 2: different game if they do get off the field. A 266 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 2: couple times in this game. I mentioned that I think 267 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:43,079 Speaker 2: a lack of a wide receiver one is glaring. They 268 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 2: have a bright spot on that defense. And Mike McFadden, 269 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 2: who was all over the field in this game and 270 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 2: had a great in addition to every time they needed 271 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 2: a you know, a big hit, he seemed to be there. 272 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:58,439 Speaker 2: He knocked away a touchdown to Christian McCaffrey, which means, 273 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:01,559 Speaker 2: you know, he's in coverage down field swatting a ball 274 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 2: out of McCaffrey's hands, and nobody does that. So they 275 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 2: have a player in McFadden. So it wasn't all bad 276 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 2: for the Giants, and in general, Mark like based on 277 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 2: when you look at their first three weeks, it's been 278 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:14,079 Speaker 2: a little topsy turvy. But they hung in this game 279 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 2: for about three quarters and you could give them a 280 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 2: little bit of credit for that, even if the Niners 281 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 2: maybe didn't perform at their typical levels. 282 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean so, like compared to the last two 283 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 3: games where the Giants did this like multiple personality scenario 284 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 3: situation last week against Arizona, They're outscored sixty three to 285 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 3: six in the first half this season through tonight. That's messy, 286 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 3: and but they were not a disaster out of the gate. 287 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 3: I think we're seeing a more stabilized version. But the 288 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 3: stabilized version is going to win about six or seven 289 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 3: games the team that I'm seeing right now. So I 290 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 3: think if you're a Giants fin, you're disappointed because like 291 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 3: you'd like to build off of what happened last year, 292 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 3: and you'd like to have all the people that giggled 293 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 3: at you saying like, well we were wrong, like they 294 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 3: actually were that team and they can consistently build off 295 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 3: of that. I don't love the idea that someone like 296 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 3: Adore Jackson gets hurt tonight. It's like they're losing their 297 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 3: best players and they and they're in the player that's 298 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 3: paid the most, Daniel Jones. 299 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 4: Is half baked. It's like, uh, I want to ask 300 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 4: you this. 301 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 3: Because I went and looked at Nick Schuk is doing 302 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 3: QB Index doing a great job. I read the whole 303 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 3: thing two weeks in a row, and like he's a 304 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 3: great writer and like he's got a good eye for this. 305 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 4: But like he is Party at number eight in his list. 306 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 3: That's a that's before tonight, But that, like that is 307 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 3: intriguing to me. I think that's like I kept trying 308 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 3: to inflate him last year and it was like people 309 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 3: are killing me, but it was like I just liked, 310 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 3: I like what I see from Party. But like Daniel 311 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 3: Jones down at number twenty one, and like I don't 312 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 3: have a problem with that either, Like it's like that's 313 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 3: who he is. 314 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 4: Like they they paid the guy they had and there 315 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 4: was no other options. 316 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 3: But like Daniel Jones outside of the two quarters against 317 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 3: the Cardinals is not getting done this year and it's 318 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 3: like he's not their answer next year. 319 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 4: I like, you're stuck with him financially. 320 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 2: But like, wow, you're down on him. 321 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 3: Huh Well, so like I know, so I think number 322 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 3: one is floor is high because he can run really 323 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 3: well and like when you win everything around him, like 324 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 3: last year it seemed like for the first time in 325 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 3: his career and why I do. I do like the 326 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 3: idea of him, Like everything around him kind of works. 327 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 3: Saquon was healthy, Like how many injuries did they deal 328 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 3: with in the years before? With Saquon and all the 329 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 3: wide outs, It's like, finally they got it. Daniel Jones 330 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 3: put it together. He had a couple of games where 331 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 3: it's like, I mean, I don't like I like his arm, 332 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 3: talent and all the other business, but it's like, this 333 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 3: is just a guy that's going to be here until 334 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 3: the next New York Giants quarterback, like two seasons from now, 335 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 3: ur a year from now. 336 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 4: It's like, what evidence do we have right now that 337 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 4: he's their dude? Beyond like this. 338 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 2: Year next I would say, uh, we disagree on this. 339 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 2: I think he really did did take a big step 340 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 2: forward last season, and this year has been I mean, 341 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 2: it's it's really hard. The Cowboys game in Week one 342 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 2: was what it was. It was, it was grim, They 343 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,880 Speaker 2: got blown out by a much better team, bad weather game. 344 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 2: He was phenomenal in that comeback win over the Cardinals 345 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 2: last week and you could say it's the Cardinals, but whatever, 346 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:16,120 Speaker 2: he was a big time in that game and this game, 347 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 2: like I'm pointing to it I'm pointing to he's missing 348 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 2: his best player. The offensive line didn't keep him clean, 349 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 2: he didn't have a running game, Darren Waller can't do 350 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 2: a damn thing, and they don't have like enough weapons 351 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:31,640 Speaker 2: for him to go to. So I just don't think 352 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 2: he's the problem right now for the Giants. I think 353 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 2: the schedule is a big problem for the Giants. I 354 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 2: think starting with the Cowboys in Week one and then 355 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 2: getting the Niners on a short week on the road 356 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 2: in Week three is their biggest problem because they're not 357 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:48,360 Speaker 2: an elite team and they're gonna be exposed in these 358 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 2: type of situations. That's that's where. 359 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 3: I no, I hear you, and I'm not trying to 360 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:55,919 Speaker 3: be too like down on Daniel Jones, but I just 361 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 3: think there's like if we've watched you and I have 362 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 3: probably watched probably like four hundred quarterbacks in our lives, 363 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 3: right Like there's these tiers, and like Daniel Jones to 364 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 3: me is in the tier of like great athlete, great 365 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:13,159 Speaker 3: not maybe not great quarterback, but I see it as 366 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:15,679 Speaker 3: an athlete. I see like the physical specimen and what 367 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:18,959 Speaker 3: it can do. Everything needs to be right around him. 368 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 3: I think we've watched quarterbacks where it's like you're watching 369 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 3: like four apocalypses occur around them and they're somehow still 370 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 3: surviving the storm. 371 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 4: Like I just don't see him that way. 372 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 3: Like it's not that I'm down on him, it's just 373 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 3: like they got to manage him and deal with what 374 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 3: they have, and like the pieces around him are not 375 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:37,399 Speaker 3: living up. They're hurt or they're not living up to 376 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 3: the billion and it's like that'll put any quarterback in 377 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 3: a tough situation. But like Daniel Jones isn't the first 378 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 3: guy I trust to like save them, Like I mean, 379 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:46,239 Speaker 3: he'll go. 380 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 4: He's spurts. He spurts. 381 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 3: Like the second half against Arizona, which is the game 382 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 3: I tracked last week in the office, was like, you see, 383 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 3: this is the last year's Giants team. But then you 384 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 3: lose Saquon and then suddenly everything else falls around a 385 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 3: part of around on you, and the Giants are gonna 386 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 3: win six or seven games. And it's not Brian Dables' fault. 387 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 3: It's like he's not doing a lesser coaching job. I 388 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 3: don't like the Dallas game, but like it's not a 389 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 3: lesser coaching job. It's just like a lot of stuff 390 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 3: a lot of crap is happening, a lot of nonsense 391 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 3: and bs is unfolding around you left and right, fog 392 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 3: a war, and you got to fight through it. 393 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 2: I'll just say different types of players. But a lot 394 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 2: of people felt that way about his predecessor as well. 395 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 2: And now he's well, I would sell fame with two rings, 396 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 2: So he's not what I guess what I'm saying Mark 397 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 2: is like. There are quarterbacks that are high level, big times, 398 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:43,120 Speaker 2: you know, star quarterbacks that can lift a team up 399 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 2: and take them higher if you just give him a 400 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,919 Speaker 2: nice setup. Then there are quarterbacks that are solid guys 401 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 2: that like a Kirk Cousin tier Kirk Cousins tier, and 402 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 2: I think Daniel Jones is in that tier where if 403 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 2: you surround him with the right team, watch out, like 404 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:00,679 Speaker 2: that team could make some noise. Actually, if you get 405 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 2: to the playoffs, I'll like a Joe Flacco who's that 406 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 2: type of guy too. You put him with the right team, 407 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 2: you get to January, and some magical things happen. Eli 408 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 2: Manning another example. He could actually end up going on 409 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 2: a running and look elite for a month and and 410 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,360 Speaker 2: and you know, flags fly forever. So I think That's 411 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 2: where the giants probably see Jones. I don't think they 412 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,719 Speaker 2: see him as Patrick Mahomes, but they see him as 413 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 2: a guy that like we could put him in here, 414 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 2: and if we surround him with talent, he's gonna thrive it. 415 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 2: That's where I'm at on him. 416 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 3: I know I'm with you, and like I don't want 417 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,919 Speaker 3: to like I don't want to exit this uh and 418 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 3: or not like I don't want to exit the conversation 419 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 3: with me as like suddenly I'm anti Eli manning to 420 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 3: like like I love Elion, like uh, you know, like I'm. 421 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:42,719 Speaker 4: A pro giant, I'm prone to be pro giants. 422 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 2: That's why I'm a little surprised by how down down 423 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 2: you are on mister Dimes right now. 424 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 4: I just I don't. I just I feel like we've 425 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 4: got a large enough. 426 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 2: Tough spot to Markie. That's a tough spot for Danny. 427 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 4: I like you whatever, It's fine. Well we'll see. 428 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not desurbed. Like I don't determine his faith. 429 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:02,880 Speaker 3: He will determine his faith, so will fate. 430 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 4: Fate will determine his faith. 431 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 2: So well. Put you know who doesn't care about anything, 432 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:11,120 Speaker 2: including fate. This is another reoccurring theme that I forgot about. 433 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 2: Al Michaels is in the Golden Years, and Al is 434 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 2: now on Amazon, and he's like, I don't even know 435 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 2: if Al knows what Amazon is. But Al's on Amazon 436 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 2: and he's getting paid a lot of money to be 437 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 2: the voice of Amazon. But Al at this stage and 438 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 2: God bless him, and I hope I'm the same way. 439 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 2: He suffers no fools and he does not care to 440 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:37,160 Speaker 2: tow any company line. So with that said, I want 441 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 2: to show my favorite moment from the broadcast where they 442 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 2: came back from break and as they'd been doing all night. 443 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 2: And Mark, we've talked about this when we covered the 444 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 2: Super Bowl fifty. How long is that bus ride from 445 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,640 Speaker 2: the downtown San Francisco hotel we were at to get 446 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 2: up to the Big Bell Bottom. 447 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 4: I don't know what I mean. 448 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 3: I feel like I like I we celebrated a number 449 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:00,199 Speaker 3: of birthday is. 450 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 2: On the right, so I think we changed time zones. Anyway, 451 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:06,239 Speaker 2: it's long. It's like an hour thereby San Jose and 452 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 2: Al is sick of seeing the Golden Gate Bridge. He's 453 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:15,119 Speaker 2: sick of showing the seals you know on the on 454 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 2: the Watchman call it the pier. Let's listen to Al 455 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 2: keep it real, because he doesn't care if Amazon is 456 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 2: happy about this or not. 457 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: I mean, San Francisco, it's beautiful. We got somebody's seen it. 458 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 2: Now. We'd like to bring aeriels from nearby here. 459 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:29,880 Speaker 1: But what are we supposed to do the salt evaporator 460 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 1: flash Shantos Airport? 461 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 2: Now, where was the stick here from that? 462 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:35,400 Speaker 1: Well? 463 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:36,400 Speaker 5: I know you, yeah right? 464 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 2: How far was candlestick from from here? 465 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:40,360 Speaker 1: Forty miles San Francisco? 466 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 2: Yeah right? The producers in his ear like, Al, come on, man, 467 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 2: oh my god, what did he say? What did he 468 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 2: say was up there? What are we supposed to get 469 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 2: aerial shots of? What did he say? 470 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 4: Like the salt flats or something like that? 471 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, a little a little world weary. 472 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 2: I love Uncle Al. Yes, yeah. And also he doesn't 473 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 2: have the he doesn't have the red the red hair anymore. 474 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 2: I like, he's just he's going all the way in 475 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,120 Speaker 2: and this is who I am, this is where I'm at, 476 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 2: and God bless him. Anything else from the game. We 477 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 2: have a couple of NFL news things to hit before 478 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:20,880 Speaker 2: we say goodbye, But anything else from the game, mark No, 479 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 2: I think we. 480 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,479 Speaker 3: Can I think we're I think we've said as much 481 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 3: as it's needed to be said about that contest that 482 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 3: I quickly forget. 483 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 4: It evaporates from the mental mind. 484 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 2: And the Giants host Seattle next week, and then their 485 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 2: schedule is really brutal after that. So they need to 486 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 2: find a way to get past Seattle and get back 487 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 2: to two and two. And if they get to two 488 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 2: and two, they're in good position. The Niners have a 489 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 2: layup next week. Well, everybody thinks they have a layup 490 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 2: against the Cardinals. So so far it's been more like 491 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,360 Speaker 2: backing down in the paint and then you know, muscling 492 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 2: it up and getting it to go down eventually, but 493 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 2: it's not a layup. But they get the cards next 494 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 2: week and then mark Cowboys Niners on Sunday Night Football. 495 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 2: Everybody stay healthy. Well that we were already past that point. 496 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,679 Speaker 4: I'm really surprised they put that in prime time. I 497 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:10,400 Speaker 4: don't know what they. 498 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 2: Were because the Cowboys aren't going to be healthy when 499 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 2: that game comes. They won't have everyone because star cornerback 500 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 2: Trayvon Diggs suffered a torn acl in his left knee 501 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 2: during Thursday's practice. He suffered the injury during a one 502 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 2: on one period in practice, briefly spotted inside the team facility, 503 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 2: according to ESPN's Todd Archer, on crutches before undergoing an MRI, 504 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 2: which quickly revealed the tear just a huge loss for 505 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 2: the Cowboys, mark they through two weeks. They they put 506 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 2: it on both New York teams, the Giants and Jets 507 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 2: had no answers for that defense. And Micah Parsons gets 508 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 2: obviously much of the pub as the new lt But 509 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 2: but Diggs, there's a reason he got a massive contract extension. 510 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 2: He is kind of the heartbeat of that secondary and 511 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 2: the playmaker that secondary, and moving on without him will 512 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:06,719 Speaker 2: not be easy. 513 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,439 Speaker 4: It's terrible loss. Like I feel like if you're the Cowboys, you're. 514 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 3: In this arms race with teams like the Niners and 515 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 3: the Eagles, where it's like you can't be the next 516 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 3: team losing these star players, and it's like, but I don't, 517 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 3: I don't. 518 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 4: This happens left and right. 519 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 3: I think the one thing about him is like I 520 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 3: think we understand he's not one of the greatest coverage 521 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 3: guys of all time. 522 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 4: He's hot and cold on his rankings for that. 523 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:35,640 Speaker 3: But ball hawk wise and what he does to infuse 524 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 3: the defense and generate turnovers is wild. 525 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 4: And they also lost Tyler but dazz their center. 526 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:45,919 Speaker 3: I believe I'm saying this last night, like he he 527 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:47,399 Speaker 3: had a hamsterring injury and it's. 528 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 2: Like he'll be okay, though that doesn't seem like a 529 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 2: serious issue. 530 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 4: I hope. So, I mean, like that's like you, like you, 531 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 4: just you. 532 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:57,159 Speaker 3: It feels almost like you're taking a silent bullet to 533 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 3: the head when you're losing guys in practice. If you 534 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 3: lose them in a game, and we all understand why, 535 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 3: you know, he's in the keta battle, but like you're 536 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 3: losing them in practice, it's just like. 537 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 2: Oh, it's brutal, and you're happy that Diggs from a 538 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 2: person standpoint, he got that payday before this injury happened, 539 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 2: and that included forty two million and guaranteed money. Good 540 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 2: for him that he got paid before this terrible setback, 541 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 2: and he'll come back strong, I'm sure next year. But 542 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 2: he had gotten off to a great start. According to 543 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 2: next Gen stats, he had allowed just three catches for 544 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 2: thirty one yards on eight targets as the nearest defender 545 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:34,400 Speaker 2: and coverage this year, quarterbacks had a pass rating less 546 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 2: than ten on throws coming his way. He also forced 547 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:41,360 Speaker 2: the fumble, intercepted a pass, three pass breakups, six tackles. 548 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 2: These are all that's a playmaker at cornerback, and you 549 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,120 Speaker 2: take him out of the mix, they are not going 550 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,640 Speaker 2: to be the same back there. They have Deron Bland 551 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,920 Speaker 2: who had a pick six, I believe in week one, 552 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 2: So you're gonna he's probably gonna maybe slide over and 553 00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 2: be that guy, but you're gonna miss him. They're just 554 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 2: they're not as good now without digs. And that's the 555 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 2: brutal part of the sport, yep. 556 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 3: And like I think the thing you believe in and 557 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,640 Speaker 3: them like even like no matter what, Like their offense 558 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 3: is spicy, but like it's their defense that's like truly 559 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 3: special and somehow carried over from last year to this 560 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 3: year is like a top three, top four defense, And 561 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 3: like you start taking these guys away and they can't 562 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 3: do the same thing. Like when you lose your secondary, 563 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 3: it's like your pass rush is affected. Everything's affected. So 564 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,160 Speaker 3: the Cowboys like they stay healthy. It's like we talked 565 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 3: about it all day to day. It's like they could 566 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 3: be that team that we're talking about for two weeks 567 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 3: prior to the Super Bowl. You lose four or five 568 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,160 Speaker 3: guys and it's like someone else creeps in there. 569 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 2: Tough one, tough one, all right. Circling back to the game. 570 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 2: By the way, Mark, I know our front Keveon Thibodeau, 571 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 2: he did, he has another tackle a he got a sack. 572 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 2: It was a coverage sack early in the game. He 573 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 2: did the robot after he got the coverage sack. That 574 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 2: was it for Kvon in the game. So we're still 575 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 2: waiting for Kavon to make a big impact for the Giants, 576 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,439 Speaker 2: the former first round pick. And I'm not saying I 577 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 2: or we are rooting against Cavon, but the man spoke 578 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,159 Speaker 2: a pretty large game this summer and a little bit 579 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 2: quiet tonight. 580 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 4: I in general don't know why anyone. 581 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 3: I think if you're on the Giants and you're a 582 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 3: professional football player and you can get an idea of 583 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,640 Speaker 3: how the game is shaping up, the idea, the concept 584 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,159 Speaker 3: that you would spend a number of seconds or minutes 585 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 3: doing the robot feels atypical with like the actual situation, 586 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 3: Like let's get an idea where we are. 587 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 4: This isn't all about you. 588 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 3: We're not in a narcissistic landscape, like the team is struggling, 589 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 3: you've had a tougherly start of the year, like the 590 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 3: over celebratory robot thing. 591 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 4: Uh, I don't know. I don't need it. I don't 592 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 4: need it. 593 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 2: Would you say a narcissistic landscape. 594 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like, well no, I mean look at look 595 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 4: at like I. 596 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 2: Think that's exactly where we are. 597 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I would like I. 598 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 3: Would aim to like repair our relationship with him, if 599 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 3: that's even needed. I don't think he even remembers that 600 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 3: he was with us. But it's like I'm not looking 601 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 3: to inflame it or exacerbate it. But I would just say, like, hey, work, 602 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 3: work with my sensibilities a little bit as an observer 603 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 3: of the game, like you're you're walking around doing robotic things, 604 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 3: like because the giants are down, like you know you're 605 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 3: gonna get flamed. 606 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 4: We know you're gonna give up thirty points, you got 607 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 4: to tackle? Is this all about you? That's the narcissism, 608 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 4: That's that's the landscape I'm discussing. 609 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 2: Finally, the game that we watched today, Mark is a 610 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 2: certain type of football game. It's it's the Swingers game. 611 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 2: It's it's remember in Swingers when Nicki played by John Farvara. 612 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 2: He he didn't have confidence. He's and he's a bear, 613 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 2: but he just didn't know how to use the clause 614 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 2: and he needed his buddies Sue and double Down Trent 615 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 2: to help show him the ways. I thought about that today. 616 00:29:58,200 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 2: Let's let's listen it. 617 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 5: But you are like a big beer with claws, with fangs, teeth, man, 618 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 5: fucking teeth on you. She's just like this little bunny 619 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 5: who's just kind of countering in the corner shivery. Yeah, man, 620 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 5: just kind of you know, you got these claws and 621 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 5: you're steering at these claws, man, and you're thinking to yourself. 622 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 5: With these claws, you're thinking about how am I supposed 623 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 5: to kill this bunny and supposed to your funny. 624 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not hurting it. 625 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 5: You're just kind of gently batting the bunny around, you 626 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 5: know what I mean. And the bunny scared, like the 627 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 5: bunny scared of you, and you got yours and these fangs. Man, 628 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 5: you're looking at your claws and you're looking at your fans, 629 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 5: and you're thinking to yourself, I don't know what to do, man, 630 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 5: I don't know how to kill the bunny with this. 631 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 5: You don't know how to kill the bunny, do you 632 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 5: know what I. 633 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 4: Mean, You're like a big bear. 634 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 2: Man, You're like a big bear forty nine ers. Take 635 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 2: the claws out and your big fangs and you just 636 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 2: sink into that little bunny, which eventually they did. But 637 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 2: that was the classic Swingers game, the big angry bear 638 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 2: for some reason, just just batting around the bunny, Like 639 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 2: what are we doing here, Let's just just kill the 640 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 2: bunny and let's all move on with our life. The 641 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 2: Swingers game. 642 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 643 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 4: No. 644 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 3: And at the end of that film when they're in 645 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 3: the diner and you know, he's just shouting, I would 646 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 3: never eat here, and like uh like the you know, 647 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 3: there's an incredible diatribe against many backpacks that were a 648 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 3: big problem for us, you and I back in the day. 649 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 4: The girls walking around with a mini backpacks. We don't 650 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 4: have to deal with that now so much. That's good. 651 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 2: I don't really know what you're talking about with the. 652 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 3: Little well, no, like like they are, you know, like 653 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 3: in the beginning of the film and he's going on 654 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 3: is insane, like you know, he's on the phone in 655 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 3: his apartment. That any like I would say in the 656 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 3: late nineties early two thousand window, there was a period 657 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 3: where like a lot of like city girls or girls 658 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 3: in general were like walking around with like bedazzled like 659 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 3: backpacks that were about like six inches by six inches. 660 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 4: And I don't know what. I don't know what they 661 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 4: were keeping in these backpacks. 662 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 3: I don't know, nobody knows, but like, but it's like, 663 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 3: but they were wearing them, and they're wearing them with dresses, 664 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 3: and it's like, why are It's like eleven at night 665 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 3: and you're walking around with a backpack. And so it's 666 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 3: mentioned in the film, and I agreed with the point. 667 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 4: I love the film for many reasons. 668 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 2: So all right, the film is Swingers nineteen ninety six, 669 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 2: a breakthrough in the indie movement of the nineties. So 670 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 2: please check it out if you have. That's our film 671 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 2: recommendation for the night coming up on the In the 672 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 2: Around the NFL universe, we have a Thursday Around the 673 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 2: NFL NFL Plus joint with Colleen Wolfe serving as the 674 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 2: psychiatrist too tortured fans of around the NFL. That's fun. 675 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 2: And then Sunday night, of course you have the preview 676 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 2: the week three previews out there already, and then Sunday, 677 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 2: we'll be back with the flagship show, and I think 678 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 2: that's everything. Mark Niners roll in anything short of the 679 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 2: Super Bowl in Vegas work failure. This team is locked 680 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 2: and loaded. Let's see how far are they heat The 681 00:32:59,240 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 2: call 682 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 3: F